other-pokemon-games

[sweet crypt]

So it may be also able to tank any move not named Flamethrower or Cross Poison

[lyric radish]

i got basicly all natures

[sweet crypt]

Anything that gives SpD

[lyric radish]

-atk then?

[sweet crypt]

Yeah sure

Man, why did they give Iron Fist to a Pokemon with nonexistent attack?

Is Gamefreak trolling?

[lyric radish]

who?

[sweet crypt]

Ledian

[lyric radish]

no way ladian gets ironfist

[sweet crypt]

I'd probably bring Unown for Pickup

[lyric radish]

her hands are like a t-rex

i dont have unown pickup

think it got removed

passive is adaptability

[sweet crypt]

Each Unown has a different passive

A has Adaptability, H has Huge Power etc

P should be Pickup

So if you have Unown P then yeah bring it

[lyric radish]

SINCE WHEN?!

i got alot of patterns and i did have p

[sweet crypt]

Pretty recently

Like 2, 3 major updates ago

[lyric radish]

what nature xd

[sweet crypt]

Doesn't matter lmao

[lyric radish]

yeah i havent played for a while

[sweet crypt]

You're bringing Unown for Pickup and only Pickup

And shiny luck ig

[lyric radish]

ill do +spd -atk xd

[sweet crypt]

You could also bring like, Sentret or something

[lyric radish]

i got 1.25 points left

[sweet crypt]

Who also has Pickup and actually can do things

Though it won't have shiny luck since you don't have a shiny Sentret

[lyric radish]

keen eye or run away? and also i dont got egg move #4 on sentret

[sweet crypt]

That's Extreme Speed but it shouldn't matter too much since you aren't gonna use it offensively

The main thing is that it has Fake Out and Nuzzle

But if you plan on using Spore, don't use Nuzzle

[lyric radish]

i got aipom blue shiny tho

and aipom has pickup

[sweet crypt]

Aipom also works for Pickup and supports with Fake Out

Though you don't need that many Pickup mons

[lyric radish]

i cant use both its 0.25 points too much 🙁

[sweet crypt]

You don't need to bring all 3 Pickup users

Just bring as many as you think is enough

[lyric radish]

so 6?

or 7

[sweet crypt]

In general you also want to bring things to cover Ho-Oh

Ho-Oh's matchup vs Rock for example is unsalvageable

[lyric radish]

i just said "so somthing to cover ground" like the smart guy i am

[sweet crypt]

And it doesn't do well vs Electric or Water either

[lyric radish]

wooper?

it wont strugle agains water and will do good against eletric and rock

and i got blue star

[sweet crypt]

Wooper could work but Quagsire is more of a staller than an attacker and will likely not do much of anything vs opposing Waters

Grass types also work but like

Your selection of Grasses are Chikorita, Hoppip and Sunkern lol

[lyric radish]

XD

[sweet crypt]

Celebi is just too expensive for a Ho-Oh run (unless you've maxed out cost downs on both which you haven't)

[lyric radish]

moody prankster smeargle 😎

[sweet crypt]

Unironically a good shout

Oh damn it has Salt Cure?

[lyric radish]

yeah

[sweet crypt]

OK yeah no bring Smeargle lmao

[lyric radish]

i dont have move 4 tho

[sweet crypt]

That's Dark Void

But you can just self sketch Spore

So it should be fine

Meganium is actually good support vs Eternatus if you can get it to not instantly die

[lyric radish]

if i find spore that is

[sweet crypt]

And Meganium is somewhat bulky

[sweet crypt]

Ledian will have Spore

[sweet crypt]

Anyways, to elaborate, Meganium has Sappy Seed and Spore

So it can put Eternatus to sleep and apply Leech Seed on it

[lyric radish]

wait can i spore with chickorite and sketch chickorite???

[sweet crypt]

Yes, same for Ledian

Ledian has the benefit of Prankster for priority and Pollen Puff for ally healing

While Meganium can apply Leech Seed

[lyric radish]

hmmm what should my last mon be...

[sweet crypt]

Don't bring Igglybuff

Since it's worthless anyways

[lyric radish]

xd

poor guy

[sweet crypt]

So all it does is waste time when gaining EXP

And if you find a wild Pokemon to catch

Another main carry I can see working (though it'd need Mega RNG) is Heracross

You can tell Heracross' egg moves and passive are built around the Mega with just a glance, and Technician Skill Link Scale Shot should be more than capable of dealing with Mega Rayquaza and Eternatus if it is able to live to get to them

[lyric radish]

hehe

[sweet crypt]

It is bulky too, so it should be able to tank Eternatus Flamethrower to land Scale Shot

But I'd say Ho-Oh is the better main carry in both performance and not needing RNG to really get going

Also, since the main carry is Ho-Oh, even if you fail the run you'll get a lot of candy

You can use the candy to unlock Cost Downs for Ho-Oh, making teambuilding have more options

[lyric radish]

true

i got a soothe bell to

[sweet crypt]

And then maybe even buy eggs to get better IVs and nature

[lyric radish]

got it on second roll xd

pefect

and hes bird is rokkidee

this cant get better 😄

i fixed the physical bulk issue (in doubles)

[inland crane]

Violet completed

[celest light]

I know for a fact this ones hard to do

[pastel gull]

playing B/W and lenora COULD'VE won the battle buy using hypnosis on my last pokemon and retalliate spamming, but no, she used.. leer..?

[pastel gull]

the ONE pokemon i try to train usually faints in every damn battle

[pastel gull]

I JUST LOST 4 BADGES AND AN ENTIRE DAY OF PROGRESS BECAUSE I ACCIDENTALLY LOADED A SAVE STATE😭

[ornate shadow]

What Type/theme should I use in radical red

[graceful osprey]

I've made the error of going for shiny alpha ursarang so I can get beeg red ursaluna

[ornate shadow]

What type or theme should I use for radR

[ornate shadow]

Also dang-

[graceful osprey]

I'm doing the mmo strat at ursa ring and I've gotten 3 shiny Teddyursa out of it that I reset

[ornate shadow]

What should i mono in RR

[graceful osprey]

Uhhhhhh

Ground

That or ghost

Whatever there's mire of

Do you know what the mmo strat is?

[ornate shadow]

Mmo?

[graceful osprey]

Massive mass outbreak

I love calling space-time distortions stds

It gets me so many funny looks

[noble zealot]

TIL that MissingNo. once cameoed in We Bare Bears.

[graceful osprey]

You find a mmo that overlaps with a static alpha spawn
Turn off autosave
Make thw outbreak go away
Save
Reload the game

For me I'm doing the one in ursas ring

[analog timber]

What's THAT game???

[graceful osprey]

Each time to reload its different

[noble zealot]

PokéRogue

[graceful osprey]

1/819.6% or something

[graceful osprey]

Not mine just random images I stole from the internet

[graceful osprey]

I like the thought of: pokemon are terrifying avoid at all costs

Then some random ass child with a 10 foot tall while on all 4's bear as a pet

1 hours left then I can go home and start grinding for the bear again

yay

[lyric radish]

pokerogue

[sweet crypt]

I can't believe the Pokerogue community sometimes like you can hear the most absurd shit come out of their mouths

Like in what world did Kyogre not need a nerf when it had BOTH ELECTRO SHOT AND FREEZE DRY LMFAO

Also feels like 90% of the nerfs that happen are immediately followed by the fanbase deeming the nerfed Pokemon is ass like no good sir, Arena Trap Garchomp isn't ass, you're just spoilt

Next thing you know they're gonna remove Rising Voltage from Miraidon and the community will call it the worst Pokemon in the game now

(Probably still top 5 at worst)

[graceful osprey]

I see nothing wrong with that

[lyric radish]

fr fr

[lyric radish]

he also had tail glow at one point

[sweet crypt]

Different era to Eshot and Freeze Dry

And far less stupid

[lyric radish]

still busted

[sweet crypt]

Which is saying a lot when it's Tail Glow

[lyric radish]

tail glow, water spout Pogre...

[sweet crypt]

But that's how ridiculous giving Kyogre Eshot and Freeze Dry is

[lyric radish]

btw latios do you ever sleep i never see you not online

[sweet crypt]

I do actually sleep

[lyric radish]

suree.. like 2 minutes between 04:00 and 04:02 just so noone else ask anything while you sleep xd

what do i do here?

[smoky gyro]

Does this have regenerator?

You dont really need recover if it does

[lyric radish]

no it dont

[smoky gyro]

I still think recover is the weakest option

Its pokerogue right?

[lyric radish]

yeah

[smoky gyro]

You wont need to heal typically especially considering ddance

If you one shot everything who cares about recover

[lyric radish]

true

[sweet crypt]

Recover is mainly there for like

Eternatus

So if you save your money wisely you just buy a memory mushroom before Eternatus to get it back

I would also say that depending on the rival's starter and your RNG with vitamins and Sharp Beaks you may also want it for 195

[lyric radish]

he has meowscarada

and corvenight as hes bird

[sweet crypt]

Who does the rival swap to from Meowscarada?

Because there's 0 way they stay in right?

[lyric radish]

im on 70 so i dont really know havent had a figth where i dont ohko everything without Ddance

[sweet crypt]

I feel like you'd need multiple boosts for Mega Ray in most scenarios

There's definitely a chance you only need 1 if you're lucky enough

[smoky gyro]

Geniune question why is wild charge 90 bp

When flare blitz, wave crash, etc is 120

[sweet crypt]

Volt Tackle

[lyric radish]

couse eletric has a immunity so its worse so it needs to be worse 🙂

[sweet crypt]

Which is why we should kill Pikachu

[smoky gyro]

I mean if thats your argument flash fire, water absorb, storm drain, and dry skin exists

[sweet crypt]

did that breloom just try to mach punch a mimikyu

[lyric radish]

yeah but i was thinking typing couse you also have ligthning rod

[smoky gyro]

I feel like they should either buff wild charges bp to 120 or remove its recoil

[sweet crypt]

Certainly

Speaking of buffs to Electric moves, MAKE SUPERCELL SLAM 130 BP GAMEFREAK

[smoky gyro]

A 90 bp move having a drawback is kinda stupid

[sweet crypt]

WHY IS IT A JUMP KICK CLONE AND NOT A HIGH JUMP KICK CLONE

[smoky gyro]

Wait its not?

[sweet crypt]

I'M PRETTY SURE JUMP KICK DOESN'T EVEN EXIST IN GEN 9???

Oh hell yes Ivy replaced Ttar with Hydrapple

I do not like sand chip

Because it wastes time and wastes HP

Still 0 clue why the rival can just replace Pokemon

[lyric radish]

so @sweet crypt

im fked

rival switches to solrock

[sweet crypt]

Simply OHKO with Bolt Beak or something idk

And also maybe try to get a neutral or resisted Tera against it

I mean like I'd assume +1 Ho-Oh going first with Bolt Beak would cook a Solrock

[lyric radish]

i got a shiny Ledyba

[sweet crypt]

This Ninjask just handed me 4 stages of attack on a silver platter

[lyric radish]

heres proof its a ladyba

[sweet crypt]

I was wondering if that was a joke or if you actually got them mixed up again lol

[lyric radish]

XD

ngl i would be dumb enougt to mix them up again

[sweet crypt]

Mimikyu run is going well

So far I'd say that Mimikyu is like a solid 8/10

[lyric radish]

sky attack > brave bird rigth?

[sweet crypt]

Nope

Sky Attack does more damage but takes 2 turns

[lyric radish]

oh second turn

[sweet crypt]

And all 2 turn attacks are bad

[lyric radish]

nah

[sweet crypt]

Sky Attack's even worse though

[lyric radish]

the meteor attack and Eshot

[sweet crypt]

Because it doesn't even have the courtesy of giving you invincibility

[sweet crypt]

Those are only good when you can make them 1 turn moves

[lyric radish]

still base 2 turn

[sweet crypt]

Doesn't change that they're bad when used as 2 turn moves

[pastel gull]

what do yall think of the team names (would call pancake frying pan, but i need to reach the name rater)

[lyric radish]

the wolfey should be a inceneroar

[sweet crypt]

Why is WolfeyVGC a Pokemon that's mid in all formats of competitive (including VGC)

[lyric radish]

brb in 10-20min gota go to school

[lyric radish]

couse that wolfey in a nutshell

[pastel gull]

i thought, oh thats a dog, who has a dog/wolf related name

[sweet crypt]

Fair enough

[lyric radish]

hes too inconsistant with playfull teams and real teams to be a good player

[sweet crypt]

That's crazy disrespect

[pastel gull]

i also have a blitzle i put in the daycare for one of the future gyms, before i accidentally loaded the pre gym 1 save state, i took one out of the daycare and it was level 27, genius move from me

i had a timburr called onetimeuse, because i only used it for the second gym, and a sandile called sun dial for the electric gym

[sweet crypt]

I feel like you're asking the wrong person to rate your names, I usually name my Pokemon things like "cat", "dog" "Moth?" etc

[pastel gull]

lol

ive never been creative with nicknames until now

[sweet crypt]

Ok wait the RNG on this run is nutty 850 Attack on a fucking Mimikyu is wtf

Fortunate doesn't begin to describe my series

Gonna do a Castform run

Tbh it can't be THAT bad

Like

Look at this shit

And Adaptability too

Bringing Telepathy on Tapu Fini so that Boomburst doesn't self sabotage too much

[smoky gyro]

It just annoys me when he threw shade to singles players cause he only won a world champ in doubles

So I dont watch him ever

Just watch cybertron, aaron is so much chiller

[sweet crypt]

Tbf Doubles is the official format so that's probably why, but yeah I don't like him for that reason too

But calling him not a good player is WILD

Bro is like one of the best Doubles players ever lmfao

[smoky gyro]

I have no comment on that because I never watched him play

I just dont like him

[sweet crypt]

That's like saying fucking Soulwind is bad because they've only won Singles tournaments and doesn't win literally 100% of the time

[smoky gyro]

Is there even officially recognized singles tourneys?

Maybe not by pokemon company but

[sweet crypt]

Definitely not any hosted by like Nintendo or TPC or whatever, no

Smogon's pretty large though so most people accept it as the defacto authority on Singles

There's not very many players who are great at both Smogon Singles and VGC

[smoky gyro]

I do think doubles is harder objectively

[sweet crypt]

Probably the most well known player that fits that description is MichelderBeste I'd imagine?

[smoky gyro]

Because you have more chess pieces at place at any given time

Saying that as a singles player

[sweet crypt]

Double the Pokemon means double the possible actions

And double the chance to get doubly owned by the wack-ass play in mid ladder

Me trying to guess the Kingambit's Tera Type in mid ladder between Ghost, Fairy, Dark, Flying and Fire: (It's Tera Psychic Psycho Cut)

[smoky gyro]

Jokes on you Im running tera grass to avoid spore /j

[sweet crypt]

Avoiding Spore in a sleepless metagame is crazy

Which is how you know it's a mid ladder set

[smoky gyro]

I honestly still dont know why sleep clause isnt a thing in vgc

[sweet crypt]

Because if it exists and is crazy it exists in mid ladder

I should grind RandBats and get fucked over by lead Chimecho again

Still not as bad as the time I got a team of like

5 passive special attackers and Gliscor

Vs Regigigas, Poopa Unwiped and Weavile

[smoky gyro]

I literally fought a game against a lead cosmic power chimecho yesterday lmao

[sweet crypt]

The game wanted me DEAD that day

[smoky gyro]

I just said fuck this shit Im out

[sweet crypt]

Gliscor was unironically the best Pokemon on my team for all of Regigigas, Poopa Unwiped and Weavile

GLISCOR

Was my best Pokemon

FOR WEAVILE

Because at least if I Terastalise Gliscor I can get some damage

[smoky gyro]

I mean with tera yea

[sweet crypt]

I terastalise anything else and I'm giving free Swords Dances

[smoky gyro]

You shed your quad weakness

And gliscor is physically bulky

[sweet crypt]

Yeah but the fact that a Tera was forced by my opponent's first Pokemon

Which still led to Gliscor dying

Since I had to switch it in on a Swords Dance

Is not fun

I also lost the 50/50 on SD vs Knock Off

Though tbf iirc I did swap Gliscor in while it SDd

So it should be Toxiced by then anyways

Still though, rotten RNG that game

Since Gliscor was my hardest hitting Pokemon

And my only thing that threatened Poopa Unwiped remotely

Or Regigigas

Me when the Pokemom with an offence stat below 100 is my hardest hitting Pokemon (I wasn't SD Gliscor)

[pastel gull]

can already taste the XP

[sweet crypt]

Sometimes RNG just doesn't go your favour that way lmao

Ngl throwing Pokemon after Pokemon just to get chip damage before getting 2HKOd vs Poopa Unwiped just to see my opponent bring out Regigigas right after was soul crushing

[pastel gull]

F

[sweet crypt]

The only time anyone has ever struggled vs Poopa Unwiped and Regigigas fr

[pastel gull]

i struggled with the first gym in B/W

somehow

[sweet crypt]

I've heard that gym's a bitch for Nuzlockes so I can see that

Or was that the first gym in B2W2?

Idk lmao

I'm not a nuzlocker

But I'd imagine if it's hard in a nuzlocke it'd be hard normally too

[pastel gull]

didnt help that none of the trainers were rebattleable, the wild pokemon were piss poor levels, and the supereffective monkey you get is lvl 10

and incinerate does what feels like barely any damage

[pastel gull]

the big city (Again)

[pastel gull]

pansear finally has a good fire move

and a fire stone

[narrow pine]

Good Lord I'm playing Pokemon Tectonic after someone linked it here the other day, I've never seen a fangame so close to being good but fuck this game is so frustrating.

less than three badges in and I'm already burnt the fuck out

Its one of those where they try to make every single trainer challenging and its draining very quickly

[graceful osprey]

Welp

I've been doing this for 4 hours

3 or so more resets then I'm going to bed

[inland crane]

BW hint is to always look around rustling grass for Audino spawns

Since it has 3rd best exp yield for any Pokémon that isn't a legendary or mega evolution

The ones that are better is Chansey and Blissey but they don't spawn in Unova wilds

[ornate shadow]

My blaze black 2 team is weird:D

[modest portal]

Based

[celest light]

||Dude i love mega victreebels design like
Geniunely
The idea that its clearly producing so much acid that it has to hold itself shut to contain it is just
A little horrifying underneath that goofy ah look||

[lyric radish]

is reshiram without 4th egg move a good carry in fire mono pokerogue?

[sweet crypt]

Alright chat, what are we thinking of ||Mega Hawlucha?||

[smoky gyro]

Chat

[tribal onyx]

The design for the new mega :

[smoky gyro]

Does anyone know

If the repel trick still works even if your lead mon is fainted

[tribal onyx]

I like the design but I find it a little underwhelming for a MEGA evolution

[lyric radish]

dont mind if i do

[lyric radish]

he only got a hat and bigger wings...

[brisk hedge]

||FINALLY, a new mega that isn’t from Gen 1. Not too sure about the design though||

[sweet crypt]

OK wait I want to get a proper scale of how popular it is rn

[lyric radish]

so in your rating do we rate it on what pokemon was chosen or design of chosen pokemon?

[sweet crypt]

Rate it however you want to rate it

[simple quartz]

It seems fine

I kinda wish the design just really leans into it being super Mexican

Full on Rey Mysterio lookin ass or smth

[lyric radish]

sumbreo XD

[viscid pelican]

As a pro wrestling fan, this is an A from me

[lyric radish]

but theres bearly any change...

@sweet crypt

who do i fuse?

[sweet crypt]

90% of the time, you don't

And I'd say this is one of the times you don't

[lyric radish]

but i dont need more vouchers 😭

[sweet crypt]

Heal up and get the Egg Voucher for gambling because gambling is based (or Revive Meganium)

Tbh DNA Splicer here sabotages the run more than it helps it

Pick the DNA splicer if you want to lower the odds of success

[lyric radish]

i saved up for like a year to get quad digits so i dont need more...

[sweet crypt]

Nah stockpile even more for Gen 10 frff

Instantly get every single unlock in the known universe for every Gen 10 Pokemon

[lyric radish]

xd

[viscid pelican]

I still like it either way.

[lyric radish]

but i dont have 100% iv for all mons let alone all more or all shinies

[sweet crypt]

Then I don't see why you aren't using them

[simple quartz]

How does it work in Pokerogue aesthetic-wise

[sweet crypt]

Boring

[simple quartz]

Do they work together with you guys and have the permission to use the sprites or

[lyric radish]

im am but im getting too many to lose them

[simple quartz]

Right so they don't lmao

[sweet crypt]

But you can make even sillier names than in PIF

[north vessel]

oh yeah that's a little tame for a mega :C still not a step towards a worse direction at least, approved in general

[pastel gull]

this stupid ass scolipede in black protected against my fly SIX TIMES IN A ROW

[unkempt egret]

[native trench]

||LOVE the new Mega. I see no reason for the fandom to hate on it, but the fandom doesnt need a reason to hate it, they just grasp at straws or just cop out and play the "its lazy" card when they cant think of anything real XD||

[pastel gull]

most of my squad are good against flying, skyla is cooked

[white thunder]

leaked designs vs offical designs

[pastel gull]

alright to be fair these new megas do look better than the leaks

Hawlucha's is amazing

[native trench]

spoiler tags?

[white thunder]

I don’t know how to do that

[native trench]

go to edit image, then there should be an eye icon in the corner

[white thunder]

How about on phone?

[native trench]

for mine you hold finger down on the image and i think the menu to edit it should pop up

[pastel gull]

easy gym, only 1 mon fainted

[quasi horizon]

the neck collar is a bit too much imo

[pastel gull]

yeah true i guess

[wispy osprey]

what are Megas for if not to be too much

Hawlucha might be my favorite mega already and I’ve known about it for less than 30 minutes

that might be a little bit of extra hype from finally having an accessible Kalos mega

but still

at the very least it’s easily the best of the new Megas so far, I mean mega Dragonite just sucks and mega victreebel is silly and it has clever design stuff but i feel like it loses a bit of the badassness that base victreebel has idk

[quasi horizon]

ig you're right about the "too much" but that makes the head look smol

[wispy osprey]

well making the head look small appears to kinda be a trend with these new Megas now that you mention it

[quasi horizon]

mega dragonite imo is just lazy, id doesn't look bad just because dragonite's design is alrady good

[wispy osprey]

see my problem with Dragonite is it serves poorly as an evolution for dragonair

I really don’t like dragonite mostly for that reason

if Dragonite was blue it would be 10x better

[quasi horizon]

yeah it's kinda the same issue as the pawmot line

[wispy osprey]

but even that wouldn’t fix the mega just being kinda mid

well the pawmot line’s issue is that the entire line could be one pokemon and we wouldn’t really lose anything

my issue with Dragonite is that Dratini and Dragonair set up a clear theme and color scheme for the line and Dragonite just veers wildly away from the colors for no easily understandable reason

just like… look at me and tell me that this, with so few changes, isn’t a way better evolution for Dragonair

[pastel gull]

and if dragonite were blue, it would look less like a pale overweight charizard

[quasi horizon]

yeah they kinda look from separate lines, mega dragonite imo should have been a longer, more elegant dragonite to remind dragonair

[wispy osprey]

yeah then it looks like pale overweight Gyarados instead /j

[carmine tree]

dragonite is just that weird uncle at the family reunion

[pastel gull]

this dumbass zebstrika is trying to spam spark on my krokorok

[wispy osprey]

what a shockingly bad move

[pastel gull]

har har har

playing b/w makes me realise how overhated they are, im loving them (so far atleast)#

[wispy osprey]

oh yeah Unova has the best games for sure

B2W2 are probably my favorite of the MSG and BW are up there asw

[pastel gull]

Gonna play either B2 or W2 after i finish Black

[wispy osprey]

I was about to spoil the plot but I guess if you haven’t played them I shouldn’t do that 💀

[pastel gull]

lol yeah

[wispy osprey]

my b2 team was some of the most fun I’ve ever had team building honestly

[pastel gull]

what was ur team?

[wispy osprey]

I used my starter + one pokemon from each of the first 5 generations

[native trench]

yall provin my point over here XD

[pastel gull]

sick

[wispy osprey]

Serperior, Arcanine, Ampharos, Flygon, Lucario, and Jellicent

the lucario build I had in B2 is my favorite singular pokemon I’ve ever used

special attacker lucario with calm mind + aura sphere, flash cannon, and iirc shadow ball goes crazy

[pastel gull]

this is my current Black team RN

[wispy osprey]

that’s three Pokémon I used 🔥

are you at the elesa battle

or was the Zebstrika mention a random trainer

[pastel gull]

it was a random wild encounter, in the long grass patches beneath one of those wooden balance beam sections

[wispy osprey]

oh yeah those ones

nice

[native trench]

||https://tenor.com/view/dragonite-mega-dragonite-pokemon-dragon-happy-gif-733937405175007947||

||its in the anime now, suck it haters||

[wispy osprey]

I used Samurott, Krookodile, and Zebstrika on my Black team

[pastel gull]

i got mine on like, the first possible route, and then left it in daycare until after the electric gym (which is why i gave it its nickname)

[wispy osprey]

that’s wholesome lol

[pastel gull]

the rest are just funny things i thought of (except pansear)

i came up with its new nickname which i want to try change, frying pan

[wispy osprey]

0/10 naming a pokemon that isn’t Incineroar WolfeyVGC

[pastel gull]

if only inceneroar was gen 5💔

[wispy osprey]

I actually didn’t name my Incineroar in US directly after WolfeyVGC

I called it Wolfesbane

I felt so clever

[pastel gull]

close enough

oh boy i sure do hope a trainer doesnt pop out of one of these piles!

[hard plume]

victreebel was badass?

oh also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYCOc3SiU7A

[native trench]

yes

[west gale]

https://youtu.be/Xt4ccSMw870?si=PcljoMdet5Vyh5po

[pastel gull]

||Cherin would rather ponder what ehe'll do with power if he becomes champion, than help me stop team plasma, tsk tsk tsk||

[wispy osprey]

regular vic: yes, to a point (although maybe there’s a better word)
mega vic: definitely less than regular

[pastel gull]

circle of spin

[native trench]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[wispy osprey]

mega victreebel trades in some of the intimidation factor (of the crazy stabby venomous plant that will literally eat you) for goofiness and while I’m all for goofy pokemon, mega evolution isn’t exactly the place for that imo

[hard plume]

victreebel was well know for eating james's face

bro had goof factor since day 1

[wispy osprey]

do you not find the idea of a pokemon literally eating a person somewhat intimidating (I also never watched the anime so that doesn’t factor in to my decision)

[pastel gull]

Victreebell loved james very much

[native trench]

someone needs to draw James with his victreebel ||going mega||. that'd be wholesome af.

[pastel gull]

maybe JAMES is whats inside mega victreebell.😨

i swear b/w gyms are secretly death traps

shot out of cannons, sliding across ice ramps, etc etc

fast moving lifts

[sweet crypt]

Yknow how some youtubers just ask people to send them eggs containing custom made Pokemon for nuzlockes?

I wonder if anyone has ever sent like

THE God Pokemon

Like idk

Mega Rayquaza with Victory Dance or something silly

But then they gave it Truant and made it completely worthless

[pastel gull]

lmao

[sweet crypt]

That'd be the ultimate troll methinks

[pastel gull]

or maybe

arceus

but with splash

and nothing else

[sweet crypt]

Nah, then you just switch train or exp share it up gg ez

You need the ability to be worthless

[pastel gull]

yeah true

[sweet crypt]

It's doubly crippling for Arceus since a big appeal with Arceus is that it has like 0 bad matchups in theory

Because it can use Multitype to swap types

No multitype, no 18 types

And even worse when it has been replaced by like

Idk, Truant

I know I used Truant as an example earlier but like it's that shit

[wispy osprey]

double battle with Weezing ACTIVATE

[sweet crypt]

It's a shame there's like

0 fucking double battles

[wispy osprey]

can you TM skill swap onto Rayquaza lmao

[sweet crypt]

Idk if Rayquaza gets Skill Swap

Arceus probably does though

[wispy osprey]

level 100 specs Magikarp with Sheer Cold

can you give Pokémon moves they don’t normally learn in egglockes

[pastel gull]

watchog is my biggest gen 5 opp

[wispy osprey]

ah still holding some trauma from Lenora I see

[pastel gull]

more from any watchog in the entire game

my krororok just swept 4 plasma members in a row

[unkempt egret]

hypnosis and mean look and super fang yea

not that good at fainting but great at making you waste time and resources.

[pastel gull]

atleast it doesnt have recover

[wispy osprey]

average legendary encounter:

[pastel gull]

lmao

my team is now fully evolved

i see my max repels do nothing to cofagrigus

[wispy osprey]

Krookodile is such a good pokemon

[pastel gull]

badass too

one of my favourite gen 5 mons

[wispy osprey]

high physical attack + moxie (or intimidate if you vibe with that) + good stab with Crunch/Earthquake + good coverage options incl Rock Slide or Dragon Claw + badass design

makes it great for IF too lmao

[pastel gull]

word of warning, if you ever play the pokemon gym leader fan game, do NOT choose ghost type, you have to drain all your PP and stuggle in the FIRST battle, as you start with astonish, which doesnt affect the starly you fight

[graceful osprey]

That makes 4

[sleek jewel]

4 what?

[graceful osprey]

Shiny teddys

[sleek jewel]

Where?

[graceful osprey]

That have all been reset because i don't want it

That's thr 4th one

I've been doing this for like 2 days now

This ursarang refuses to be shiny

[sleek jewel]

That's shiny hunting for ya

[native trench]

Bears you say?

(i mean minus koalas technically ahaha)

[graceful osprey]

Imagine alpha bm ursaulna

[unkempt egret]

can throw in a cubchoo in place of the komala and you'd be good

[simple oxide]

huh, there really are only three lines of bear pokemon
I thought there would be more

[graceful osprey]

4

But yea

Pamcham
Teddy
Stufful
Cubchoo

[simple oxide]

wh-
I literally searched for "bear" on bulbapedia and volcaron showed up before pancham

and kubfu ig

[native trench]

I do love BloodMoon Ursaluna

Anytime a shiny teddiursa appears in a game Im gonna name it Gummi Bear 😛

[brisk hedge]

Rattata: “Armaldo’s whereabouts are unknown”
Also Rattata: lists the dungeon that Almaldo is in and the exact floor that he’s on

[opaque agate]

wut game is this one

[noble zealot]

Mystery Dungeon DX

[torpid prairie]

I am so in love of this illustrations

[sweet crypt]

Hey chat what do you think is like, the most broken Pokemon ever for Singles that has not been in AG (excluding Gen 1 Mewtwo lmfao)

[unkempt egret]

probably gen 2 snorlax?

considering how often I hear about it being outright mandatory on teams in that gen

primal groudon as well in gens 6/7 but that one's edging close to AG lol

[smoky gyro]

Idk what ag even is

[unkempt egret]

Anything Goes, basically because of Mega Rayquaza being a filthy cheater they had to make Ubers its own tier

AG is basically "this is blatantly not meant for our 6v6 multiplayer in any fun way, we're still banning endless battles but otherwise have fun"

there are some other things there like Zacian, calyrex-shadow, Miraidon, gen 4 arceus once they figured out you could have regular EV spreads on it, and baton pass

[sweet crypt]

Gen 2 Snorlax is a really good one ngl

Though I'm not too fond of judging based off usage

Or even viability

As an example, compare Gen 8 Ubers' Big 3 and Calyrex Shadow

Caly-S is seen as far more problematic, and almost got banned to AG via suspect test even back then (motherfucking bitch)

But all of Yveltal, NDM and Eternatus, whose usages were around like 80-90% iirc, were not perceived as even remotely equally broken

Anyways Gen 8 Calyrex Shadow is unironically a great contender

[celest light]

i mean similar to xerny who is considered one of the strongest mons of all time during there dominant spurts
and they won 0 worlds cause of pure spite for the vgc

[sweet crypt]

Like fuck this stupid ass king bro

Xerneas itself is also pretty borderline

I'd imagine it'd be like top 5 most broken non AG Pokemon

[celest light]

for doubles at least they where busted af

[sweet crypt]

Like from a Singles perspective

Xerneas being good is universal

[celest light]

oh yea
power herb geomancy is insane

[sweet crypt]

Mega Gengar's another

As in, another absurd fucking Ubers mon

[celest light]

wofie con perish

[sweet crypt]

I think it also got suspected in Ubers at some point in time

And is AG in NatDex due to Gengsr getting Encore in Gen 9, but I'm not including that

Like Encore Mega Gengar currently doesn't exist so why include it

That said if Megas return in Gen 10 all I'm gonna say is prepare for the list of AG Pokemon to increase

[celest light]

encore aint great in doubles so gengar hasnt really made any significant comebacks in the ways i know it

[sweet crypt]

Anyways Snorlax being allowed in OU is the main reason why idk if it'd constitute as similarly broken to an Ubers Pokemon despite being the best Pokemon in Ubers

(In Gen 2 I mean)

It's fucking absurd though lmfao

I'll admit I'm not knowledgeable on Gen 2 so for all I know Snorlax is broken as fuck and it remains unbanned because the Gen 2 Competitive scene finds it hilarious

[celest light]

That is possible many competitive scenes leave op stuff cause either
Theres a work around
Is funny
People rarely abuse it cause its painfully boring

[unkempt egret]

from what I've heard gen 2 snorlax they've tried going without it but it somehow made things less fun overall? it's a really strange case and I forget a lot about it lol

[sweet crypt]

So basically Gen 2 Snorlax is the glue holding the tier together and going without it means you're gonna be fucking miserable whether or not your opponent is using it?

[native trench]

he stare

[simple quartz]

If it doesn't stop staring like that I will road roller it

[stone light]

can somebody tell me the pokemon and build to beat the ting-lu tera raid?

[pine ingot]

I rarely nickname my Pokémon, but when I do, I name it Gary after Gary Busey

[narrow pine]

Such a great look for a metagame, makes you really wonder why its the least played OU metagame

lmao

[graceful osprey]

GREEN

ITS FINALLY GREEN

[smoky gyro]

Puke green

[untold hill]

radioactive bear

[rustic surge]

“It’s not easy being green”

[noble zealot]

My GOATs

[tender sable]

any tips on games i can easily play on pc ive played reborn, infinite fusions and tectonic so far

[graceful osprey]

I hate the green one

it's evolution however

[rugged comet]

Rejuvenation

[graceful osprey]

Vanguard

[narrow pine]

Solar Light and Lunar Dark

[peak kite]

Do I throw bird seed during pokemon go community day to get higher shiny odds?

[lyric radish]

ngl pretty good

I used a randomized team ngl not that bad the hustle 2x stab rattata Espeed incase iron crown dies and the tarountula with fakeout

the rattata also got false surrender to make up for no 100% accurate moves so if i need a bit of dmg it never misses

[dusky pine]

Can anyone help me complete my pokedex in scarlet with violet mons gulpin dreepy misdreavus ceruledge pasimian eiscue slowking clauncer please

[sweet crypt]

Very good RNG on randoms, nice

[lyric radish]

i also remembered to change tera type on ratata to normal and iron crown to phsyicic to survive Eturnatus' flamethrower

[sweet crypt]

Even if you forgot to change Crown's Tera Type and got horrendous Tera Shard luck, Calm Mind, any potential Leftovers and good special bulk would in theory help it deal big damage anyways

Ig Calm Mind is a TM move for it though

[lyric radish]

im using nasty plot and not calm mind currently

since nasty is egg move

[sweet crypt]

Nasty Plot is better until you face Eternatus, which I'd say Calm Mind is better for purely for the SpD increase, which helps in setting up more Calm Minds as well as tanking hits while you KO it in like 3-5 turns (depending on Pokemon)

2 turn KO after starting to attack is definitely possibly too with the right Pokemon

[lyric radish]

if it helps i got a multi lens on floor 8

[sweet crypt]

I'd imagine Miraidon would be capable of pulling that off

Because Miraidon's fucking batshit insane

[lyric radish]

for iron crown is this the optimal or is there better moves for me to get other then calm mind

the one run where i got a premade team that i cant edit

[peak kite]

Going to stop shiny hunting on pokemon go, unless I go back on.
11 shiny rookidees.
(However you spell it)

[lyric radish]

i got 7 on my account but i played on somone elses account and got another 5 there

[noble zealot]

...What

[lyric radish]

sir why you break the game

[sweet crypt]

Can't say I've seen this glitch before

Which is impressive since I've been playing since Pokerogue was new

[lyric radish]

@sweet crypt

Do we do it on iron crown?

or is stab too important

[sweet crypt]

You can always reset if you don't like your type

But Steel/Psychic is one of the best, if not the best Psychic dual pairings

[lyric radish]

i checked items they are 100% worse

[sweet crypt]

Can't say the same for it on Steel's side

[lyric radish]

steel is just too good no matte

[sweet crypt]

But in a Pokerogue context Psychic is actually doing something here

[lyric radish]

but what is its abbility tho?

[sweet crypt]

Since the final boss is weak to Psychic

[sweet crypt]

If you can beat Blacephalon, you can replace one of your Pokemon's abilities with a random ability

You do have the option of declining

However, I wouldn't recommend it for you

Since Blacephalon's Mind Blown would nuke the fuck out of Iron Crown

[lyric radish]

i dont even kno wwhat iron corwn's abbility is

[sweet crypt]

Quark Drive, boosts a stat by a lot but only under Electric Terrain

[lyric radish]

i think i could win with raticate he got sucker punch and false surrender

[sweet crypt]

Usually it's only useful with Booster Energy but that doesn't exist

[sweet crypt]

Blacephalon's type is completely randomised

And I think Blacephalon Mind Blown would OHKO

[lyric radish]

so well iron will be good XD

[sweet crypt]

It'll only be good if Mind Blown doesn't kill it first

[lyric radish]

i OHKO him with iron crown

im faster

[sweet crypt]

Ah right Iron Crown is fast

[lyric radish]

i also have 1 carbos and quick claw

[sweet crypt]

Yeah that's fair, that's fair

You may outspeed at base depending on IVs and nature

I know Iron Crown and Blacephalon have very similar base speeds

[lyric radish]

raticate hustle Espeed OHKO mr.mime too i did not expect that ngl

[lyric radish]

+spatk -atk nature

[sweet crypt]

Hustle makes Pokemon hit like bombs

[lyric radish]

pretty solid ivs is all i know

[lyric radish]

fr and i got tera normal for when i get orb

[sweet crypt]

Gumshoos probably hits harder than A-Raticate with Espeed though

And with no accuracy drawback

Gumshoos is kinda underrated in a Pokerogue context for that reason

[lyric radish]

well i dident get a gumshoos as my random mon

[sweet crypt]

It can only click Espeed

But it sure as hell does amazingly at clicking Espeed

[sweet crypt]

Ik I'm just saying

[lyric radish]

i got false surrender to make sure that wont be the worst thing ever

Yo hes giving me sheer force

who do i put it on xd

drapion?

[sweet crypt]

Crazy how you got a great ability and 0 good users of it

[lyric radish]

xd

does it work with make it rain?

[sweet crypt]

Definitely not

[lyric radish]

stone axe or leech life xd

this is so bad for me lmao

i mean spidops got fake out

[sweet crypt]

Actually makes Stone Axe worse

And Fake Out

[lyric radish]

how?

[sweet crypt]

Doesn't work on Leech Life

[lyric radish]

does it remove the effect?

[sweet crypt]

Stone Axe does bad damage and removes Stealth Rocks

As in, Sheer Force removes Stealth Rocks

[lyric radish]

ahh i thougt it gave boost and kept effect

[sweet crypt]

From Stone Axe

[lyric radish]

so its good with brave bird and that kind of moves

[sweet crypt]

And yeah 0 effect on Leech Life

[sweet crypt]

Also doesn't work with Recoil moves

At least, not when Recoil is the only effect

[lyric radish]

i know theres a abbility that removes recoil i dont remember what its called tho

[sweet crypt]

General rule of thumb is that if the additional effect is negative, Sheer Force won't work on it

However it does work with Flare Blitz because it has a Burn chance

[sweet crypt]

Rock Head

[lyric radish]

ahh

[sweet crypt]

(And Magic Guard too by technicality)

(But that's simply because it removes all indirect damage)

[lyric radish]

i got Dedge on raticate but i would rather wont hustle even if it removed recoil

[sweet crypt]

The day Life Orb is introduced into Pokerogue is the day Alakazam ascends into being a Top 3 Classic Carry

I remember it already being extremely strong when I used it

If a bit frail

Well, a lot frail

[lyric radish]

yeah btw rival figth is no problem i found out on floor 95 he uses veanasaur switched to corviknight and i can setup to +6 no problems

[sweet crypt]

God I love it when the rival swaps to Corviknight on my setup sweeper

[lyric radish]

fr

[sweet crypt]

Rival's extremely likely to do it on Lugia runs

And that makes Lugia just

Win

Full stop

[lyric radish]

sadly rival got arcenine but i outspeed it this time without quick claw

[sweet crypt]

To be fair Lugia sets up on Gholdengo

So like

Not much really stops it lmao

[lyric radish]

lugia is just buildt diff

hes so thick specially

[sweet crypt]

Crazy glow up from being like bottom 1 box art legendary

All it takes is bad AI and one of the craziest fucking MUs against the final boss

A sleeping toddler could beat Eternatus with Lugia

[lyric radish]

fr

[sweet crypt]

Tbf a sleeping toddler could beat Eternatus with a lot of Pokemon

And to be fair to Pokerogue a lot of those are very expensive

[lyric radish]

yeah the balancing is pretty bad on some mons and they are expensive if they can solo the game

[sweet crypt]

Then we have Tapu Fini who is literally tied for lowest cost among legendaries (excluding like, Phione and Type:Null)

Which has egg moves so broken you can roll up to a boss you're weak to and 1v1 it

[lyric radish]

somone call type null?

[sweet crypt]

And that's discounting Tera

[lyric radish]

Wait since when did type null become epic egg when i played he was rare

[sweet crypt]

Tapu Fini might just be the most broken Classic mon in the game

For just 5-3 cost and the correct egg moves you instantly beat the game

I'm surprised it hasn't been nerfed

In either cost or egg moves

It was my main carry for the Fairy and Water monotype runs

[lyric radish]

it can also carry gen 7

tho that is a very fun gen ngl

[sweet crypt]

And ima be real it was like the only Pokemon I used on both

Gen 7 run was also Mono Water

[lyric radish]

i can play almost any legend and have fun playing

[sweet crypt]

I remember I ran Fini, Araquanid and Pex

Araquanid in its own right is a great Pokemon in Pokerogue

And so is Pex, though defensive Pokemon aren't anywhere near as needed

I was planning on using Pex for Eternatus

But it just

Didn't matter

I know I did a few other overlaps for my runs

[lyric radish]

this hurts

it hurts so bad 😭

[sweet crypt]

Like I believe my Ice run was Gen 8 only

Because I took one good look at Galarian Darmanitan

And went

"Yup this solos the game"

(It solod the game)

Well, it probably could have

[lyric radish]

just spam smth like icicle crash or Equake

[sweet crypt]

But what was more surprising is that it wasn't used too much

Because somehow motherfucking ARCTOVISH carried most of the run

That's right, ARCTOVISH

I can't say I saw that one coming

[lyric radish]

that seems fishy

[sweet crypt]

Yeah, it rent my world apart

But jokes aside I think this really goes to show that people need to stop fucking whining about nerfs

Because there's like 50 million other things that could do excellently they just never look at

That's why the nerfs happen

Because there's like 50 million other things to try

That people just neglect for the absolute best

And even those nerfed Pokemon are victim to this way of thinking

That's why I like doing suggestion runs, rando runs or just picking stuff I think looks neat

Anyways Miraidon nerf when

[lyric radish]

thats litterally why im doing a rando run rn i can find new good combos and try out things i normally wouldent

[sweet crypt]

I'm literally about to do a Castform run once I stop procrastinating

I mean yeah Castform's stats are atrocious

[lyric radish]

nah do a unkown run

[sweet crypt]

But like

Quiver Dance?

Adaptability Boomburst?

Eruption?

Hold up, let him cook

[sweet crypt]

Lmao no

Unown is not one of those mfs who got crazy

They just gave Unown funny meme stuff and fucked off

[lyric radish]

all the diffrent abbilities tho

[sweet crypt]

Can't wait to use Huge Power with my 0 physical moves

[lyric radish]

XD

nah use A

[sweet crypt]

Unironically would be the hardest hitting Huge Power mon if it did actually have a physical move though, apart from Megas

It would also be the frailest and slowest

But that probably counts for something

I'm not sure if a true 1 Unown solo run is even possible

Since most solo runs end up relying on like

Double Team

[lyric radish]

you should try

[sweet crypt]

Which Unown just can't learn

And I also fucking hate relying on Evasion because Evasion Boosting is a dogshit mechanic

[lyric radish]

FUCK

[sweet crypt]

I literally lost a run once because I couldn't land a hit on an Alolan Raichu because it was spamming Zippy Zap

[lyric radish]

I FORGOT TO HEAL

IM LIKE 5% HP

[sweet crypt]

It fucking HURT

Thank god they made it whatever version is the permacrit one

Because that is infinitely better than the evasion boosting one

As in infinitely worse

From a performance standpoint

Because it isn't fucking evasion

But that makes it better

I also want to note that permacrit Zippy Zap is outdamaged by Evasion Zippy Zap

Because Permacrit Zippy Zap has like 50 BP

And Evasion Zippy Zap has 80

WHY WAS THERE A MOVE WITH ESPEED BASE POWER AND PRIORITY THAT BOOSTED EVASION

[lyric radish]

so i won against guzma but at the cost of my revive seed

[sweet crypt]

Don't worry you're probably not gonna want to bring that into the Eternatus fight anyways

Not worth the risk of it stealing the Revive Seed, IMHO

And using it up loses all your stat boosts anyways so you can't use it to bail you out after spamming a ton of setup moves on phase 1

[lyric radish]

oh my i dident think of that 💀

[sweet crypt]

Good for everything else in the game apart from Eternatus unless you don't die

[lyric radish]

i got lefties as a reward tho

[sweet crypt]

Leftovers could be said to be bad for Eternatus as well, but IMO that only applies for Leech Seed/Salt Cure strats

Since for setup sweeper strats you deal like 2 bars per attack anyways

If not 3 or 4

[lyric radish]

welp now i have had the oppertunity for both

[sweet crypt]

Lol

[lyric radish]

i also got multi lens so i will deal mor eby abusing that

[sweet crypt]

Whether you deal more depends on the stat boosts Eternatus gets and what rolls you get

In theory, it could make you go from like dealing 2 bars to only 1.5

[lyric radish]

i got a soul dew too so i need to hope eturnatus doesent have -atk +spatk or spdef

[sweet crypt]

If it rolls over to not break 2 bars at once but also deal less than 1 full bar

[lyric radish]

no way after setting up +6 spatk i think i would do atleast 5

[sweet crypt]

Depends on item luck

I've had very strong attacks hit Eternatus only for it to live on 1 bar

So you probably need a ton of calciums, twisted spoons, soul dews etc to make it work

And also good RNG on initial stat boosts

Or yknow

A Topsy-Turvy Prankster Sableye in your back pocket

[lyric radish]

does a raticate work xd

[sweet crypt]

Well probably not but you can try

Sableye is reassurance for if Eternatus manages to roll a ton of bulk boosts

You land 1 Topsy-Turvy before anyone else on the field, invert the boosts on the head and nuke the shit out of Eternatus

I'd assume that with it you could probably 2 turn Eternatus without completely unreasonable RNG

Using something like Deoxys Attack

Not 2 Shot, 2 Turn

[lyric radish]

trust my hustle raticate will miss and ill go cry in a corner

[sweet crypt]

It's easy to get too, just drag Sableye along and if you get a singular training session you will beat up the extremely frail and weak Sableye in 2 turns max, 1 turn if your build isn't wack

It does mean you may get unwanted Sablenites though

Mega Sableye is better if you want a defensive Pokemon to stall Eternatus out with damage over time like Curse, Salt Cure or whatever

Due to its good defensive type and stats

But it can't quite outspeed Eternatus and instantly invert its defensive stat boosts

[lyric radish]

mega sabely is a pain in comp pokemon it is so thick when it is used and with magic guard you can toxic it either

[sweet crypt]

You can Toxic Mega Sableye...

... If you manage to get 2 Toxic Spikes up

Against a Mega Sableye

On a team that likely has Defog/Rapid Spin

So basically if your opponent is an idiot or you read them extremely crazy hard or they have Aromatherapy and do not give a fuck

[lyric radish]

in comp toxic spikes arent really used sadly i still use them but im one of few in my skill range that do

[sweet crypt]

They are if you're running Stall

And Stall MSableye mirrors are uhh

Uhhh

Good luck lmao

[lyric radish]

well i hate stall so i run pure power house

[sweet crypt]

Bringing Xerneas to nuke Sableye?

Confide Blissey upon ye

[lyric radish]

blissey should be AG

[sweet crypt]

Skill issue

[lyric radish]

dang it was hoping for Qdance

[sweet crypt]

Heal Order's still really good actually

You may want to take that on Iron Crown depending on how much you're willing to part with one of your offensive moves

[lyric radish]

i got 1 figthing and 1 steel move the overlap in good type matchup is wild

[sweet crypt]

Secret Sword likely won't have much application on Guzma 165 or Eternatus

Not too sure about Rival or the Elite 4 gauntlet

But those are pretty much the only relevant battles left

[lyric radish]

i use it to kill corvenigth

when that time comes

[sweet crypt]

True, but Corviknight can't hurt you back

So you can realistically chip it away with Tachyon Cutter

[lyric radish]

steel types is the only thing i dont have anything for rly

and they resist my Espeed

[sweet crypt]

A majority of Steel types don't threaten you thankfully

One of the big ones that do, Gholdengo, is immune to Secret Sword

And Kingambit should be reactable to

[lyric radish]

are there any steel/da- king gambit... is there any steel/gho- gholdengo...

[sweet crypt]

You just need to remember that the main trainers that have it are Grimsley and Geeta

Except Geeta instantly uses Tera Flying on Kingambit

So you're better off with Tachyon Cutter vs it

[lyric radish]

yeah ill do it then being able to heal of the half hp i take from corveknight will also help against rival to compensate not 'OHKOing it

[sweet crypt]

With Heal Order you basically seal the victory vs Eternatus

[lyric radish]

tera fire any good?

[sweet crypt]

And gain a better MU vs the more relevant trainers

[sweet crypt]

Psychic would be better for damage vs Eternatus but Fire would allow you to be less weak to Ghold/Kingambit as well as Eternatus Flamethrower

This could also hurt somewhat vs Roaring Moon or Iron Treads but unless they're your literal first encounters, you just set up before continuing

And then they're one shot

Any wild Pokemon threat is solved by setting up to +6 on another less threatening one and then healing up

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wide lens works with hustle rigth?

they really want me to grab that mega band fr fr

ive got 2 soul dews now so thats some big dmg boost

STOP GIVING ME GIMMICK ITEMS

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THE BETRAYL HES NOW JOINED GUZMA

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Can't tell what Drive it is but it sure ad hell isn't the fire one

You should be able to handle it

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fire...

both the wild one and gumza have fire

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OK how is that red

Wtf

Am I colourblind?

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no it looks normal

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No I'm fucking not because I can clearly see red in the bottom left corner my PFP, my flair, your PFP, plushes in my room

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for now

it changes when it attacks

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And probably other places I can point out

Should be fine if you got Tera Fire from earlier, if not it could get tight

You'd have to use Tera Psychic or something

And that kinda risks Golisopod First Impression, if it's still alive

By I'd imagine a +2 Psystrike cooks Genesect

Non literally

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so he starts with galisopob i nasty plot when he switches to H-samurot i kill it he sends out genesect i tera use nasty plot survive and kill next turn thats what i need to hope works

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nope

tried

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Well in 2 hits I mean

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yeah but he OHKO me if i dont tera i do have revive seed tho

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Also Tachyon Cutter OHKOs Hamurott at +2? God damn

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bearly

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Yeah Tera vs Genesect

And hopefully Guzma doesn't use First Impression like an idiot or you tank

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this is when the fire tera would be good XD

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I've had many instances where his Mega Pinsir wins if it clicks Quick Attack

And it just

Doesn't

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when he attacks he also turns into a fire mon so i OHKO genesekt and now have +4

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then i oneup him with Espeed rat

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OK unless Golisopod uses First Impression that's a win from here

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i tanked first impresion

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Good

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without using seed

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How much HP were you at for that?

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like 20

xd

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20 what

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hp

so like 3% or smth

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No as in before you got hit

I'd imagine closer to full, Crown is tanky but Golisopod hits hard

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almost full since leftover + sitrus healer from genesect

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Yeah makes sense

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and i outspeed and OHKO hes mega pinsir

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Once again, Quick Attack/Espeed probably won Mega Pinsir the game there

But Guzma's brain just

Doesn't exist

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buzzwhole killed me with first impersion...

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Darn

Forgot it got that as an egg move

You should be able to win from here maybe?

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rat misses Espeed and dies to close combat

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Unfortunate

Remaining Pokemon?

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HOW DOES CC ONETAP BEHEEYEM

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Beast Boost probably

It's at +3 by now

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ill prob reset the onetap on beheeyem and rat making him +3 for drapion wont cut it

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So unless you have something faster you probably have to reset

And find a way past Buzzwole

What's your team?

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theivul is faster but misses the 90% sparkly egg move

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Also yeah no Secret Sword here probably doesn't matter lmao

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yeah

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Might be best to sacrifice a Pokemon to either of the First Impressions

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when galiso uses First impresion do i just try heal instead of kill? and see if he switched and i can pre hit buzzwhole i think buzzwhole is worse then galiso to deal with

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Actually yeah you can try

If it doesn't have another Bug move you may be able to outheal

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so i outspeed so its free 50% hp

but i saw smth

i never killed galiso

he uses emergency exit

it went so fast i never saw it since im in 5x spd

so hes still alive...

WAIT

after killing pinsir he sendt out galiso and i just healed again

so now i can either try boosting more or killing fr this time

i killeed him he sendt out buzzwhole but now i got over double the hp i had last time

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Buzzwole still hits hella hard

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and galiso is 100% dead not just hiding in the back

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If it manages to KO instantly bring in Beeheyem this time

And pray it isn't faster

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i tank and kill it

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Which it might be

Nice

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i survived on 130hp

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As I was saying, Buzzwole's actually like

Weirdly kinda fucking fast

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BRO ALSO HAS XURKITREE

bro is fking stacked

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No problem

Psystrike its ass

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quick claw proc and i ohko

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Quick Claw didn't matter

Xurkitree isn't fast

I think Buzzwole is faster even without First Impression

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NOT AGAINT 😭

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It's close

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rly?

when i reroll am i not supposed to get new items 😭

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79 vs 83, extremely close

Though Xurkitree is very slightly faster

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both are slower then i imagined

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Which says equally as much about Buzzwole's Speed as Xurkitree's

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i thougt buzzwhole was like 95 and xurkitree at like 120

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No clue how you got 95 from Buzzwole

Bro does NOT look fast

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no but i use buzzwhole quite a bit when i was newer to pokemon and he seemed to be a solid speed