other-pokemon-games

[indigo mist]

Can yall pray for my sanity and/or luck im going insane soft resetting

Wait what

Oh ima claim dat

[devout crag]

hehe silly little boy

[smoky gyro]

Yawshi!

[devout crag]

fuck shouldve called him like that

i named him dainasor

[smoky gyro]

Surely theres a name renamer somewhere

Or check the pc box

[devout crag]

im checkin rn

oh nvm im dumb

[smoky gyro]

Figured

Most modern fan games dont have name renamers anymore

[devout crag]

yeah

this romhack is also really recent

pretty sure it realesed a few months ago

[smoky gyro]

Yeah Alpharad and his team made it

[devout crag]

thats how i discovered this masterpiece

[unkempt egret]

ok so that confirms that early cleft wasn't a fluke on my file rofl

[devout crag]

this sprite is so silly

[devout crag]

does it evolve in something cool

[unkempt egret]

decently?

||has a nice speed stat for a rock/steel||

[devout crag]

yeah ik

but the evo is it cool

does it remain bald

[unkempt egret]

||sadly not||

||but there is eviolite so that's an option||

[devout crag]

[vital flare]

Sigh wanted to play stormsilver can't for the life of me get my patcher to work

[devout crag]

[devout crag]

he knows

[narrow pine]

When you wizz on the electric fence

[devout crag]

[narrow pine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azxx9sG4Gjw&list=RDazxx9sG4Gjw

its ren and stimpy

[devout crag]

oh nvm

[frozen lintel]

Leafeon Serperior goes hard ngl forgot to screenshot a dual from last night but did almost 500 damage

[unkempt egret]

LeafSerp is so good rofl

Celebi is overall stronger but non-EX leafy feels more reliable

between "50% of 50 or 0 per energy" and "always 20 per energy"

[raw monolith]

soooooo…… 👉👈 😥

i JUST found out you can catch a duplicate of the box legendary from scarlet and violet….

and quite possibly trade it for the other one on gts……

kinda wish I could catch winding wake while I had the chance

[unkempt egret]

yep! so that way you aren't stuck with just the one in your own game that doubles as ride form

[split yoke]

What about primal groudon whose has only one weakness with desolate land up.... ground.

[broken crater]

Its also weak against bugs

Its more like a scaredcrow if he sees one

[brisk hedge]

I see a bunch of people here watched the new Pokémon meme review on MandJTV extra

[unkempt egret]

so playing super mariomon uuuh

I'm wondering why the game has access to the punching glove but not the protective pads rofl

if you're wondering why that matters uuuh ||perish body||

...which might be bugged? when I did a test run of the strat the ability didn't actually go off which was strange.

the actual strat worked regardless though since ||E. Gadd didn't want to send it out until the second to last mon? which means that even if it did pop I'd live||

[broken crater]

Idk

[unkempt egret]

on the left is the E4 team and on the right is what could be in the last slot but I'm not sure who yet

(||the shroob can evolve I just like using her as an eviolite tank lol||)

it mainly comes down to who can sweep ||peach and all 5 of those can in theory do it. T-rex is the easiest followed by chuck, X-naut, and then spike top and bald cleft both have to rely on shell smashing to get through||

||for the champ fight the only one that's at an active bad spot is Mound but even they can still work since I think they have sturdy? the last slot literally just needs to be a pivot and the eject button exists rofl||

[warm rose]

DAMN

[unkempt egret]

we took that snail to snurch

also made sure to claim my wo-chien earlier

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/wochien-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-cursed-images-my-honest-reaction-gif-5359670189486873357

[rustic surge]

Definitely worth it, looks like it’s in a cult of the lamb fit

[sweet crypt]

Ngl "Moon Pokemon weak to Dark" isn't nonsensical considering how Lunala is meant to represent moonlight

You know what is fucking stupid

THE FUCKING POKEMON THAT REPRESENTS MOONLIGHT NOT BEING FAIRY TYPE

LIKE THE FUCKING MOVE

NAMED MOONLIGHT

I'm still so mad about that

Lunala my GOAT got done so dirty

Instead of getting the arguable best type she got the arguable worst

And Ghost

Which is good

So we're good

Lunala honestly may be better if it was pure Ghost type

That Psychic type is doing jack shit

Fucking dogshit type

Buff this shit

[split yoke]

Yeah. Rather silly. The moon has been tied to the fairy type pretty hard. But space has been tied to psychic type. And being literal symbol of night time... Add in the alchemy nonsense. It has justification.

Just like a lot of pokemon can be 3+ types

[sweet crypt]

I dont give a fuck because Psychic type is complete and utter dogshit

So naturally the more Pokemon that I like have Psychic Type the less happy I am

... Guess what my next favourite Pokemon is

[split yoke]

Alright. This is a rant so I won't interrupt

[sweet crypt]

Nah feel free to argue against why the Psychic type isn't ass because I'd take any excuse to rant on about it being so bad

It's arguably more egregious than Bug being bad because the way I see it Gamefreak rationalised the latter because Bug is meant to be the early shitmon type

Meanwhile Psychic is literally the most common type among legendaries

[sweet crypt]

Ofc this reasoning is also ass

And Bug also needs a buff

But at least it's a reasoning

Genuinely Psychic being so darn shitty is a complete fucking enigma

Because like

Why????

What rationale is being used here

Ah, who am I kidding, Gamefreak doesn't care about balancing

It's clear to see in both VGC and Smogon Singles

So the question remains as to why the former is an official format

If it's so damn unbalanced that it gives the feeling of a lack of regard for it

Actually incomprehensible

[narrow pine]

The answer is that they don’t view Psychic as a shit type

They see Lunala, Calyrex, PsySpam all doing well in VGC and think its strong enough

And that’s despite Incinroar and Urshifu

I also think you’re being overdramatic and massively over-exaggerating how bad of a type it is. Its a little underwhelming, not “absolutely dogshit”

[vapid kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-penny-penny-anime-team-star-gif-18355222399490555633

Can we talk about how she is the actual villain of Scarlett and Violet?

She is rude af

[narrow pine]

I mean she is literally the villain team leader

[vapid kraken]

But she plays the victim tho

"We became bullies bc we were bullied first!"

Nah fam, you still suck

And then she acts like we are friends once we get to Area Zero??

[narrow pine]

The whole point is Team Star got out of control, out of her control and became something she hated

[vapid kraken]

She is contstantly judging Arven and Nemona too

[vapid kraken]

yup and she should feel bad

[narrow pine]

...That's the point. She is meant to be very...not sheltered but a similar word

[vapid kraken]

She comes across like girls I knew in school who would victimize themselves while bullying everyone around them

[narrow pine]

She doesn't have much outside experience. She's a geek able to hack national security. Her whole arc is getting out of her shell and being able to get out there and stop a project she created that was out of control

[vapid kraken]

Most hateable pokemon character in a while

Had to get that off my chest cuz holy shiiii she's annoying af

Boo penny Boo!

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[narrow pine]

You sound remarkably pleasant

[vapid kraken]

So you like penny huh?

You sound like her tbh

[narrow pine]

lmao

[vapid kraken]

be honest do you like her as a character, or do you just like her evee backpack?

And all the excuses you came up for her just prove that she was written to be hated. We are meant to NOT like her

[vapid kraken]

cuz she hates herself, so she projects it onto others. little girl shit

https://tenor.com/view/rock-lee-naruto-ready-to-fight-ready-to-go-chunin-exams-gif-26427548

She would have a stroke if she had to interact with this guy

She would just bully him for being more genuine than she could ever be

[sweet crypt]

There's a difference between succeeding because of a type and succeeding in spite of it

I dont think either Lunala or Calyrex would be better off with Psychic than like a majority of any other type

Bug may unironically be better on Calyrex since its main issue is struggling to hit Dark types, at least in Singles, and though most good Dark types are neutral to Bug by sheer coincidence, neutral is better than resisted

You aren't using Calyrex Shadow for its defensive prowess anyways

Ig worsening the MU vs Ho-Oh sucks though

As for Lunala well I guess Bug would be worse on it at least since Lunala likes not having as many weaknesses

That said it now can tank even strong Dark and Ghost moves at max HP

Because it no longer has a quad weakness to them

And Lunala without Psychic STAB is pretty common in Singles because that's how worthless it is

Sis's most common Psychic move is Agility 💀

Hey uhhh

I guess Psyshock helps them get past Blissey at least!

Ignore how Calyrex often runs Trick Choice Item in Singles so Blissey loses the interaction anyways

Psyspam is really the only thing keeping the type afloat and like

Sure that's cool and all

But I don't think having a singular strategy to keep your entire type afloat and literally 0 other argument for the type not being ass kinda shows that the type is ass

But hey it is like, one of the rare instance of Psychic types actually wanting to be Psychic types, at least

Is Ghost/Psychic the worst Ghost dual type?

Has to be between it, Ghost/Bug and Ghost/Grass right?

I don't think anything else would come close

Well, I guess Ghost/Dark is similarly terrible offensively

But while it isn't anywhere close to being the best defensive type even among Ghosts despite only having 1 weakness, it is far better of a defensive type than any of those 3 could even comprehend

I see people joke about Lunala being weak to Dark because it's the moon but like you make it Ghost/Dark and now the Pokemon who represents moonlight is now weak to the Fairy type. Yknow, the Moonlight type?

Would probably be an improvement over Ghost/Psychic though lmfao

I cannot comprehend putting Psychic out of at the very least bottom 5 types

Like what could be argued to be bottom 5?

Bug for sure

Rock and Ice depends on if you want to look at the type MUs in a vacuum or not

In a vacuum they're good types

But look at the Pokemon that get them, and the everything changes

Normal's definitely not a great type either

It's good in very few situations

Like

Scrappy pairups with a few types and Ghost/Normal

Then by process of elimination if we take Rock and Ice in a vacuum I guess Grass and Poison by process of elimination

I wouldn't say these are outright bad types but they're just not as strong as the remaining types

So yeah I guess I'd put it alongside Bug and Normal at the bottom 3

Ironic when you think about it

That Psychic and Normal started out as the 2 best types

Though tbf Normal was mainly good for reasons outside of pure type MUs

I mean yeah all the Fighting types sucked ass

Even outside of Psychic types

And there was 1 Ghost type

And like 2 viable Rock types

So there were a lack of types that actually did well vs Normal

But it's more so the fact that 50% of Normal types have a movepool the size of the sun

As well as immunity to Body Slam paralysis while being to paralyse literally anyone with Body Slam

Apart from other Normals

And Hyper Beam being as cracked as it was

Psychic was just straight up broken in terms of type matchups

... Literally

Ghost is meant to do SE damage vs Psychic

But the interaction is broken so Ghost does literally 0 damage

Yknow, instead of figuratively 0 damage

Which it would've done with Lick

Then there's the part where the only Bug with STAB is Beedrill with Twineedle and Pin Missile

Who's also weak to Psychic

Because it's Poison

Poison is pretty ass in higher tiers this gen for this exact reason

Because Psychic

And of course Dark didn't exist

Yes how can you tell I have an obsession with Pokemon

[narrow pine]

https://tenor.com/view/i-ain't-reading-all-that-reaction-response-big-message-bluesky-gif-10745340426292256608

[simple quartz]

You'll learn to love his rants lol

[viral matrix]

Tldr for the last one: normal good, poison and fighting bad in gen 1

[unkempt egret]

meanwhile I just see "50+ blocked messages" and know I'm probably better off not opening that rofl

[smoky gyro]

I just space out completely when I see long rants and rambles

Doesn't matter who it's from

[unkempt egret]

understandable, I tend to do so as well if it's not specifically directed at me

[mighty robin]

Has anyone else said that all of Lance’s pokemon are able to mega evolve?

[unkempt egret]

I think I saw a post about that but I forget if it was here

||"man I love shooting myself in the face for money"||

(in my defense the only other way to grind money in this game before postgame is through the game corner I think?)

unless you count what I assume is a bug where ||you can swipe items from the Pit|| and sell those

[narrow pine]

I really wanted to like Mariomon. Its certainly very funny and an impressive effort.

But man the Dex fucking sucks. Its very poorly designed and underpowered

[unkempt egret]

I can see the "poorly designed" part considering my thread has riffed on some of the stat spreads (snifit and parabeanie in particular rofl)

underpowered though I feel is subjective outside of a few that are way too overtuned in context (gushen and super fly getting water spout and belly drum in particular)

[narrow pine]

There are six Grass types, five are physical attackers and the last one is just a Whismacott clone with a lower Special attack stat than one of the physical attackers

[unkempt egret]

which is still a better position than some other types are in

like fairy which has no physical attackers at all (which is what makes ||king boo|| so good, being a special wall that's only weak to fairy) or electric which has 5/6 of its captures all exclusive to world 4, four of which are game corner prizes

but yea I can also see the beefs with reused vanilla stat spreads since there's some that very clearly don't fit with the capture in question (I know the forum pointed out bristle being based on shuckle as one that was particularly off)

[narrow pine]

Oh but Flareon andBlissey, those we gotta bring over

[unkempt egret]

yea

and also throh and hairyama (give that one a ghost type tho)

with blissey even I stated on the fourm that it was dumb and outright mulligan'ed that one when I saw it since it has a 50% encounter rate on one route

[narrow pine]

I think, while it would’ve taken a lot longer, they really should’ve gone for 251 instead.

Because matching 151 just gave them no room for a lot of architypes and also left a lot of enemies out

[unkempt egret]

still, I do appreciate it feeling fair in terms of gameplay which is more than what i can say about most hacks that just load the enemies down with so many gimmicks (unbound, most RPG maker fangames) or full-team spam (radical red, anything Drayano's ever made) that I lose interest in them quickly

[narrow pine]

Yeah the dex is really my onl-

Oh right. They decided the Battle Pyramid of all fucking things should’ve been brought over

I actually raged quitted at that

[unkempt egret]

that one I can at least forgive since it's optional (and as I found out what I'm currently doing only works because of it) but I can see the issues considering it is required to one capture

[narrow pine]

I was doing Retroachievements

[unkempt egret]

ooooh yea I can see turning on it because of retro achievements rofl

[narrow pine]

Fucking putting a required boss battle at the end of a dungeon so unfairly against you made me quit it entirely

[unkempt egret]

also in the case of too many types, always risking the "whelp that's a 8x effective coverage move and now you're dead" gamble on basically every single pokemon feels really unfun from a nuzlocke standpoint

and also the final boss opens with what's basically a wobbuffet that's resistant to all types which I'm like "uh I'm glad I spoiled myself on that but no thank you"

but yea in general I have a lot more paitence/tolerance with hacks that have generally vanilla difficulty than I do ones that go all-out on the enemy gimmicks or difficulty

[narrow pine]

Supposedly they’re doing a big final 2.0 update. so we’ll see on that least

[unkempt egret]

oooh interesting

though on the other hand if it gets a bit too player-sided like with seaglass I can also see that being a turnoff

[narrow pine]

Dare I ask?

I played Seaglass like one and got abiut halfway through before I got bored because Hoenn

[unkempt egret]

nothing over the top mostly just given the stuff you'd get in gen 8/9 while the AI is still mostly stuck in gen 3 with a PSS

[narrow pine]

Oh lmao

[unkempt egret]

I had fun with it but it was still the easiest hack I've played in a good while

[narrow pine]

Isn’t there an expert mode?

I saw that listed on Retroachievements

[unkempt egret]

hm I didn't play expert I may have to check that out

but yea I think the "I wanted to like it buuuut" hack for me is probably Alte Red

which had about 8 gyms of doing reasonable then had a nightmarish difficulty spike in victory road into full-team spam and BST bloating rofl

[narrow pine]

I don’t remember the endgame being that bad

[unkempt egret]

I forget if 1.3 changed that for alte since I know 1.3 changed a lot with it and I recall getting through 1.2's endgame somewhat fine

Roaming Open World Emerald is another one that also goes from reasonable to absolute madness in the E4 and I recall that one derailing my region trot hard last year

[narrow pine]

ROWE and other hacks like it feel so empty and soulless to play through

[unkempt egret]

the one I'm curious about is evolved though since my save file died mid-way through and I'm wondering since it felt fine so far

[narrow pine]

Ick

Nah

[unkempt egret]

I can see that like the ones that are just "vanilla region but with gen + mons"

[narrow pine]

I’ll save ya the trouble

Evolved is not very good.

A lot of the evolution lines get really edgy.

[unkempt egret]

I can see that lol

[narrow pine]

They are not programmed well. A lot of them add types but then they didn’t fix the TMs accordingly

[unkempt egret]

when I see "edgy" I assume ither "offensive" or "trying too hard to look cool"

[narrow pine]

They actively nerfed some base pokemon like Gengar and PorygonZ to make their evolutions seem stronger

[unkempt egret]

any good hacks/games though?

[narrow pine]

The EXP all completely kills the level curve

[narrow pine]

I adore Solar Light and Lunar Dark

[narrow pine]

Also lastly the Elite Four is so poorly design its filled with stuff like Double Team and does the classic bad hack trick of giving Blue a fucking Mewtwo

[unkempt egret]

ok I was gonna pass on that because I assumed that was some sun/moon hack but after looking at it I'll give it a shot, looks nice since I don't mind fakemon hacks

[unkempt egret]

rofl yeaaaa

reminds me of when I was touching up flora sky for a nostalgia run I had to remove so many double teams and brightpowders for no good reason

[narrow pine]

Let me think

[unkempt egret]

(I don't even think you can get flora sky anymore which is probably for the best)

[narrow pine]

I also really like Opalo

Hell I worked on a hack series called Re: as a designer

If you want a supremely out there balance hack. Try those out

(We gave Hitmonchan Contrary)

We turned Stone Edge into a Physical Overheat clone

Re:Sun is a lot of fun. Played through it a few times

Gaia and Unbound are also really good but I feel if you’re here, you’ve probably already played those

[unkempt egret]

I did also work on a hack way back when but uuuh ||it's a touhoumon hack and it's probably very outdated now rofl||

I haven't played Gaia and I've expressed frustrations about Unbound earlier with the gimmick spam part

which on easy mode I can at least tolerate the gimmicks until the E4 which is where they do start getting unreasonable

though on unbound I do wish that all of the gimmicks there felt like the ones in the last two gyms (inverse battles and "faint = devolve" respectivley) since those do feel like the player can do fun things with them instead of just being "give the AI an advantage" (or in gym 6's case, "give the player a penalty")

[narrow pine]

Realidea System is also pretty good, assuming they finally fully translated it and didn’t leave the last gym untranslated

[unkempt egret]

I guess gym 4's as well since that one's just inverse battles

ROFL

dang I didn't know mariomon changed pokerus until I just hit it during that EV training session

at least the name but still a fun thing to bring up on the thread

[narrow pine]

For contest, the last gym is a puzzle very similar to the Quest on the SS anne

Taking orders and such

They didn’t translate it so everythings in spanish

[unkempt egret]

I'm assuming you mean IF's quest

[narrow pine]

Yeah

[unkempt egret]

I can see that. considering with the IF one I typically just memorize the names of what I'm giving

[narrow pine]

That’s all I got off the top of my head

[unkempt egret]

yea the only one i'd probably add there are the two vega versions but one of them also has the 150 mon issue (though in that case the og translation was still bound by the FR/LG evolution restriction so it's a little more justified there than a 2025 emerald hack having it)

while the other version (viva las vega) doesn't have that issue but still has a few other odd things (gym 3 and 8 still being nuts, spore on a 127 speed mon, ect, ect)

[narrow pine]

I really liked Elite Redux. But I really don’t like the direction its gone in further updates (massively culling movesets for no reason)

Plus they opened a patreon which is big yikes

[unkempt egret]

I think I passed on redux after playing for 30-40 min, forget why though

[narrow pine]

Its a very different Pokemon game

[unkempt egret]

there is also pokemon Z which is a nuz forum one but that's both still using a vanilla region (emerald here) and the trainers in lategame got too difficult for my taste. (there are fakemon and some new areas but it's still hoenn at the end of the day lol)

[narrow pine]

There’s plenty of the big projects I very much dislike

Insurgence, Emerald Rogue. Fools Gold, Radical Red, the Kaizo games, etc

[unkempt egret]

I was curious about emerald rogue and yea I know people who activley despise what RR's done to the hack scene's mentality rofl (I am one of those people)

considering it feels like Radical Red is everything I don't like about Drayano's stuff but turned up to 11

[narrow pine]

Fucking exactly

My man gets it

[unkempt egret]

the kaizo ones (and Bun & Run by extension) I don't touch with gyarados-length telephone pole since I know I'm not gonna have fun with those playing them normally much less in my own rules

actually yea I've noticed that most of the hacks I've liked are just the "vanilla region but with X" hacks that do the X well

since the other hacks I've played that use a custom region are just Vega and Mariomon

actually my bad like 75% of unbound too

I apparently also have "baked glazed" in here and I'm not sure what that is but it's been so long since I've played that

[narrow pine]

Just give me a unique team. Be it fakemon, changed vanilla mons or new forms

[unkempt egret]

but I recall complaining that gym 4 had you going up against a sleep powder venusaur with no access to lum/chesto berries

which by gym four is a very notable thing to not have access too rofl

[narrow pine]

Can’t let players have solutions after all

[unkempt egret]

exaaactly, gotta force them to roll the slots

[narrow pine]

And with my Pokemon luck. Which is notoriously awful

I can’t stand a lot of “difficulty” hacks

[unkempt egret]

yea I tend to avoid those if I can unless it's like within reason

something like taking emerald or R/S to maybe B2/W2's level not like the kaizo hacks or "every team has 6 mons from the first gym leader"

[narrow pine]

You could craft the perfect strategy, but every turn you relying on Accuracy and Random Crits, secondary chances too

And for me, it always goes wrong

That’s why I had to step away from my Monotype challenge atm, i got too burnt out

[unkempt egret]

makes sense

I've only done monotypes in IF and a current normal type one for shield

but with IF you have so many options

[narrow pine]

Which is what makes the team building so fun

[unkempt egret]

yep

[simple quartz]

To this day despite all the efforts I try to expend I just completely loathe playing all these difficulty hacks

I even tried Elite Redux since that one is like way more customizable and you can create some incredibly broken mons with their mechanics but god it's so dull for me to play

Feels like every difficult hack just answers the question of "Man Pokeymans are too easy amirite" with "I know right, so anyway if you do a battle in my Pokeyman game you better be ready to face pure meta strats with no breaks and the opponent probably cheats a little!"

[narrow pine]

These hacks have taught me that Pokemon is easy for a reason

You can't use what you want if the game kicks you while you're doing for not using a perfectly EVd Gyarados

[simple quartz]

And a perfectly EVd Gyarados ain't even good enough!!!

If you just miss even a little well too bad eat Electric bozo

[narrow pine]

You needed a perfect EVd ground type in tghe game for ALL of the Electric coverage they gave mons

Including hidden power types because fuck you

[simple quartz]

It's pretty devious that some of these hacks pretend to give you a bone and give you some strong mons you can set up with

And then they just sweep you under the rug because the CPU will just hard counter the bone they gave you because of course they can

[unkempt egret]

once the difficulty goes past a certain point it almost becomes something of a(n unfun) puzzle game in terms of finding out what turbo-specific strat the dev wanted you to use, if they even had one in mind at all

[unkempt egret]

ok I didn't mean to toxic stall his last two captures but I'll take that I guess. run completed!

[narrow pine]

Why no evolve Shroob?

[unkempt egret]

mostly since I just liked using shroob so it stuck, since I like using eviolite mons even when I shouldn't at times lol

I think bulk wise it broke about even but yea its evo could have used lefties and a higher attack stat

still worked out very well once I realized that the main problem in midgame was she kept getting status'ed (which meant that Rest got to be useful for once)

speaking of monotypes earlier back to shield

grinding out another ability patch but I feel like psychic surge indeedee is a bit mean rofl

[unkempt egret]

...really

was playing for like 30 min then controller lost power

[devout crag]

yo chat can i take him on?

[unkempt egret]

hm if you have a good ice or rock type maybe

I dunon what the levels would be tho

[devout crag]

no ike

if u check up on the right ull see i dont have a pokemon yet

[unkempt egret]

o

thought that was part of the hud ROFL

then again I do see "check out the starters" and just assumed that was minecraft mod being minecraft thing

[devout crag]

nah i just spawned next to lance

[unkempt egret]

nice

[devout crag]

ngl im not gonna choose a starter

im gonna find a pokemon that fits my standards

(probably shedinja or goomy)

[unkempt egret]

honorable choice

--> game.exe

RPG maker, hope the speed-up is as good as IF's!

I remember that being the other reason why I don't play non-hacks much because the speed-up functions tended to be awkward if they existed at all

no speed up at all not sure if I'll go with hmm

[frozen lintel]

Tried using celebi with serp and leafeon ex this is CRAZY damage really difficult against fire types though with the low hp but still super fun to play

[unkempt egret]

envious at shiny leafeon but I can see that working well if the flips go in your favor

[shell oak]

Gold display board

[tight granite]

like anything with the color in it?

cause only 1 card there is a gold card

[shell oak]

Yeah, this is my actual gold binder

Just wanted to try making a gold-themed display

I especially like how I was able to find a card for most angles going outwards

[unkempt egret]

you love... goooooold

meanwhile me over here like

[shell oak]

Like how bothe the bottom rainbows are pointing downward in their respective directions

[unkempt egret]

"wrong eeveelution game!"

dunno how much I can even work that into my fire decks which are either the usual rare candy cheese or blaine stuffs

[shell oak]

Honestly I want to try making more color arangements now, I bet blue could look great

[unkempt egret]

hm maybe

[shell oak]

How’s this?

I have 3 full art blue trainers and ALL of them point left

[unkempt egret]

oooh looks good

also the wishlist feature is so heckin good rofl

[shell oak]

I mean, i have immersive lilly to face right, but then the symmetry of card rarity is off

[unkempt egret]

also started up a rando of B2 but C'mon game I just finished up mariomon I can't use this move even more

rando also buffed it to 45 base power to match the effective power it had in gen 6+ which is nice (60x1.5 compared to 40x2 in this gen)

[shell oak]

Chuckya intensifies

[unkempt egret]

y e s

kinda sad my own got blown up in bowser's castle after failing to take the third nearly fatal body press in the run

[tight granite]

ah

i dont pay in this game so i have no gold cards

[shell oak]

Me neither lol

[shell oak]

I’ve just gotten incredibly lucky

[tight granite]

mmm

[shell oak]

That ho-oh was in the first lugia pack I opened

[tight granite]

i mean i guess, i also dont use my hourglasses so i could believe it

[shell oak]

I didn’t think getting an immersive out of my first lunala pack would ever be topped but here we are

[unkempt egret]

rofl nice

[sweet crypt]

Beat Pokemon Reborn recently

Volcarona fucking carried my ass

I fucking love Volcarona ♥️

There is 0 way I'd have beaten the final boss without it

I'm onto the post game now

[sweet crypt]

Can't find anything about a Patreon on the official server so either it's a fake or they're hiding it to intentionally try to evade TPC

Anyways I haven't noticed the moveset cullings whatsoever

Usually I can find more than what I need anyways

[raven plover]

first shiny after 40hr

🥀

[devout crag]

this is how i expect beedrill to be sized

[devout crag]

at least u found one

[devout crag]

no pokemons? wheres the problem kill him urself.

[smoky gyro]

So many cobblemon players

[devout crag]

well its peak

[smoky gyro]

Im trying it just now

It is a little overwhelming

[devout crag]

did u make a modpack

or just playing the mod

[smoky gyro]

Im using prism

So I just yoink the cobblemon modpack

I didnt bother addingnor removing stuff

Is there no bottlecaps though cause thats kinda annoying

[devout crag]

u can add mods that help the cobblemon experience

i could slide u a modpack but its on modrinth

[smoky gyro]

Prism launcher has modrinth

Tell me the name and Ill search it when I get back

[devout crag]

cobbleverse

u get a lot of stuff

[smoky gyro]

Aight

[smoky gyro]

@devout crag Is this it?

[devout crag]

yeah

i found my starter

bluh

[smoky gyro]

Dude I love the aesthetics of cobbleverse

It's so much more vibrant

Why is there a level cap though-

[devout crag]

[devout crag]

u gotta beat gyms

wait

this ivs are actually not bad

[smoky gyro]

I dont like that

[devout crag]

then u can remove the mods

[smoky gyro]

I wanna just minecraft this why are you forcing gym progression on me

[devout crag]

i dont like it too i made my owm modpack

[frail thicket]

hello

does anyoung play pokemon emerald??

[devout crag]

why so

[brisk hedge]

New art coming soon

[last egret]

UNPOPULAR OPINION
Pokémon Heartgold/Soulsilver are the best Pokemon remakes

[brisk hedge]

UNPOPULAR OPINION
BDSP are the worst Pokémon remakes

-# JK Let’s Go is actually the worst

[last egret]

I actually like Let's Go

it introduced Kanto to Gen Z and Gen Alpha for the first time

it did it's job

[brisk hedge]

If it’s job was to have garbage catching mechanics and ignore literally every improvement from FRLG, then yes, it did its job perfectly

[last egret]

FRLG is over 20 years old. Yes it's good if you are familiar with older games but it's very hard to get into for a modern fan

First off that game was made before the physical and special split. It will teach young players bad habits and tendencies

Like when I played FR/LG for the first time, I unknowingly taught my Hitmonchan the elemental punches

Hitmonchan has an abysmal special attack stat, so using fire punch or ice punch amounts to extremely little damage actually being done

[smoky gyro]

Yippee

[last egret]

FRLG is a much harder game than Let's Go. Also a lot of quality of life improvements in Let's Go such as Unlimited Use TM's

[sweet crypt]

The Physical/Special split was definitely for the better, but man is it interesting to look at in retrospect, especially from a competitive POV

[last egret]

that's the hardest thing about playing games pre-gen 4

you have to adjust to the old pokemon rules

[sweet crypt]

The funniest shit is Gengar in theory is one of the bigger benefactors but in reality it stayed about as good as it was before

[last egret]

Psychic in Gen 1 was cracked

[sweet crypt]

Psychic and Normal had a massive fall from grace since Gen 1 ngl

Top 2 types to arguable bottom 3 types

[last egret]

There was a bug in the code where psychic types were IMMUNE to ghost types rather than weak to them

[sweet crypt]

And it doesn't fucking matter

[last egret]

Also Bug types had very few viable moves

[sweet crypt]

Because what the hell is LICK going to do

ON A GENGAR NO LESS

[last egret]

Not to mention all the bug types sucked

Except for Scyther

[sweet crypt]

Some of the bugs actually had good potential

But got it squandered by bad movesets

Pinsir and Scyther come to mind

They're trash

And it's because they have 0 moves

[brisk hedge]

Let’s Go being easier than FRLG isn’t a good thing. The reason for that is because of the bad EXP share (that you can’t turn off BTW) and bad team design

[last egret]

pretty much all grass types were also poison types in Gen 1 so Psychic unofficially was super effective to grass type pokemon too

[sweet crypt]

The most Pinsir has is Swords Dance

Which is an extremely good move don't get me wrong

And very rare in Gen 1

But despite that you barely ever see Swords Dance

Because everyone that learns it sucks

Like you're telling me that if you want a Swords Dancer you have to pick between mf Kingler and Pinsir?

[last egret]

I miss when Surf would only damage the other team and not your own pokemon too in double battles

[sweet crypt]

Both of which lack any physical STAB?

Damn

That's rough

[last egret]

Unpopular Opinion but Gen 1 had lots of bugs that could be abused and exploited

[sweet crypt]

Tf you mean unpopular I think I'd have more luck listing the number of things that work as intended

[last egret]

most people view gen 1 as near perfect games, code-wise

[sweet crypt]

RBY are held up with hopes and dreams

And not much else really

[last egret]

I have an actual unpopular opinion

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-futurama-laugh-sarcastic-fun-gif-12163274

[last egret]

Johto is kinda mid as a region

It got bailed out by the Kanto postgame

[sweet crypt]

I feel like people are very 50/50 on that

There's some people who really fucking love Johto and the Gen 2 games

[last egret]

Like if G/S/C was JUST johto with no kanto, I would feel very underwhelmed

[sweet crypt]

But some that kinda think it fucking sucks ass

[last egret]

Im one of the few who thinks Johto has a horrendous level curve

[sweet crypt]

That's the one thing people agree on

[last egret]

It's pretty good up to maybe Ecruteak but then after that it goes all out of whack

[sweet crypt]

Like genuinely I think this is the only thing I see even Johto lovers admit

When it comes to negative things

It's also fucking wack that like

A substantial number of Gen 2 Pokemon are Kanto only

[last egret]

Cianwood, Olivine and Mahogany are all around the same level then it has a massive jump when you go to Blackthorn

[sweet crypt]

Unless you include HGSS Safari Zone

[brisk hedge]

Not fixing the level curve and the Pokémon accessibility is the one flaw with HGSS

[last egret]

Also Gen 2's team rocket feels like a worse version of Gen 1's team rocket

[sweet crypt]

What kind of fucked up decision was it to make the motherfucking MAGCARGO LINE Kanto only

[brisk hedge]

What are you talking about? Gen 2 Team Rocket commit more crimes

[last egret]

Also half the johto gym leaders used gen 1 pokemon

A pidgey and pigeotto? Really Falkner?

[sweet crypt]

It is important to understand that at one point Gen 2 was the last generation

That's why Kanto was in the Gen 2 games

[brisk hedge]

All of the Johto gym leaders used Kanto Pokémon

[sweet crypt]

And that's why Johto received a lot less attention and polish

[brisk hedge]

Only half of them used Johto Pokémon

[sweet crypt]

Unfortunate, but it is what it is

[last egret]

Acting like Gen 3 was never part of the original plan

[sweet crypt]

To my knowledge it wasn't

[last egret]

Also Lance is objectively the worst Champion team composition-wise. 3 Dragonites is just lazy

[brisk hedge]

If Pokémon ever learns how to make good remakes again, I’d like to see a switch remake of Johto that fixes the level curve and gives the gym leaders Johto Pokémon

[sweet crypt]

Depending on if composition includes team ordering I'll have to agree with this

[last egret]

No other champion uses repeat pokemon, let alone 3

[sweet crypt]

Because if it doesn't then I can't forgive using a SUICIDE LEAD as an ace

It does get rectified after the first battle though

Tbh if Gamefreak weren't scared of making an actually challenging Pokemon game Geeta would've been a fucking menace to society

[last egret]

The thing is, you can technically beat gym's 5, 6 and 7 in any order so it'll be hard to adjust the level curve without making Johto more linear

[brisk hedge]

Most people just do those gyms in order anyway

[sweet crypt]

They wouldn't even need to change any Pokemon she already has Glimmora, Espathra and Kingambit and that's probably enough to make her top 3 hardest champions if they tweaked the sets

[brisk hedge]

Plus, Kanto is more nonlinear and still has good level curves

[last egret]

In Kanto, technically Sabrina is gym 5 but a lot of people battle Koga first

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/danganronpa-no-thats-wrong-makoto-naegi-gif-26672582

Koga is gym 5. Sabrina is gym 6

[sweet crypt]

Tbh Kingambit's probably the strongest non-mega Pokemon any champion has ever used

Even including Megas I'd say only Mega Metagross is stronger

[last egret]

Technically speaking you can beat Koga before you beat Erika

I have a pokemon theory that Silver is related to Giovanni

[sweet crypt]

I'm pretty sure you can beat Blaine before Erika and Sabrina since the only requirement is Surf which you need Koga beaten to use

[last egret]

Also this theory is like a solid 5 years old, I think it became popular during covid but Ditto could potentially be a failed Mew Clone

[sweet crypt]

And considering how often I see Blaine do absolute -10 IQ moves in RBY challenge runs

That may be easier than just fighting Erika or Sabrina

Potion on a full HP Pokemon is preposterous

[sweet crypt]

That's straight up canon

[last egret]

FRLG made it easier to use charmander

Charmander learns Metal Claw in FRLG to help you beat Brock

[brisk hedge]

That’s the one mistake FRLG made

[last egret]

Charmander was the unofficial hard mode of Red and Blue

but you get rewarded later with Charizard

[sweet crypt]

Brock actually has literally 0 Rock moves on his Pokemon in RBY

[last egret]

still though Charmander getting a super effective move makes the gym WAY easier

[sweet crypt]

While in FRLG Onix has Rock Tomb

I'm curious how different in difficulty they actually are tbh

[last egret]

before in R/B, the best way to beat brock was to catch a mankey

[sweet crypt]

I mean, Fire's a special type and Geodude and Onix have awful Special

So maybe that combined with Rock Tomb only being in FRLG bridges the gap of Metal Claw?

They also have sky high defences for Metal Claw

[last egret]

I always had to catch a mankey to beat brock if I was using charmander in the original games

[brisk hedge]

No, the best way to beat Brock is to use your starter’s 4x super effective STAB move

[sweet crypt]

I kinda want to test this out now

[last egret]

Brock is a cakewalk if you had bulbasaur or squirtle. And like i said, Charmander was made easier with metal claw

[placid iris]

I'm sure it's older than that

because I definitely remember it being talked about earlier than 2020

[sweet crypt]

Lvl 14 0 Atk Charmander Metal Claw vs. Lvl 14 0 HP / 0 Def Onix: 6-8 (15.7 - 21%) -- possible 5HKO
Lvl 14 0 Atk Onix Rock Tomb vs. Lvl 14 0 HP / 0 Def Charmander: 24-30 (61.5 - 76.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Something tells me Metal Claw does not fucking matter

Just a feeling

[brisk hedge]

I mean, it doesn’t matter because you don’t pick Charmander

Simple

[sweet crypt]

Lvl 14 Charmander Ember vs. Lvl 14 Onix: 5-6 (10.8 - 13%) -- possible 8HKO
Lvl 14 Onix Tackle vs. Lvl 14 Charmander: 5-6 (10.6 - 12.7%) -- possible 8HKO

It's actually far better for Charmander in RBY

On paper at least

That said Onix does have Screech here that will increase its own damage by a lot, and you'll need a status move to stall Bide out

Well, increase the damage you take, but who cares

Same thing

Anyways of course you really should just get something else for Brock in both situations

But Charmander stands a higher chance in RBY

I did hear of some weird coding thing that makes Brock prioritise Rock Tomb less in FRLG

I have 0 idea how it works though

[unkempt egret]

from what I recall it's specifically because the AI treats any move that can lower speed as only a speed lowering move?

so the AI functionally sees it as string shot so it won't use it if you're slower? at least that's what I remember

also yea in RBY brock doesn't even have a rock move so the tutorial actually worked there

there's a reason why gens 3 and 4 both gave their fire starters a second type neutral to rock rofl

but yea I think the most thermonuclear pokemon take I've seen someone seriously argue for was that the Physical/Special split ruined the battling mechanics

I forget what their exact argument was but it was something like non-STAB moves had a lot more weight when some pokemon couldn't fully use their own STAB moves and it made dragon too strong which caused a snowball effect for later gens (ignoring that it's just power creep as usual)

greatly simplifying it but

[wet stratus]

Fighting brock with charmander my first Red playthrough with no good moves was a damn rite of passage

[sweet crypt]

Damn

And Onix is quite the fast Pokemon too isn't it

Relatively speaking

For a massive snake made of literal boulders Onix hits surprisingly soft and moves surprisingly fast

Like

Lvl 12 0 Atk Geodude Rock Tomb vs. Lvl 14 0 HP / 0 Def Charmander: 26-32 (66.6 - 82%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

If Brock's lower leveled Geodude had Rock Tomb

It'd outdamage Onix

It doesn't

Probably because Gamefreak realised how silly that is

[unkempt egret]

rofl

onix in particular feels like it's turbo designed for brock's RBY fight

enough defense to convey "no physical moves aren't gonna cut it" but enough low special bulk so even charmander's embers will work fine, enough attack to not be passive or overwhelming (in gen 1, gen 3's rock tomb throws a huge wrench into this outside of that AI quirk), and enough speed that only the dedicated speedsters (rattata, pikachu, and the evolved bugs I think) are going to be outrunning it

in the context of that fight it's... kinda brilliant, but taken outside of that context, it's baffling lol

[last egret]

There’s a chance it could have been circulating as early as 2015

[unkempt egret]

o well then

"Petilil's illusion wore off!"

"opponent sent out petilil!"

game ran out of ||flying|| types in the earlygame so it just gave someone a double imposter team rofl

[atomic mist]

What?

[unkempt egret]

I like when you randomize both types and enemy teams and someone still ends up with a pokemon they had in vanilla

(cheren with a pidove in this case)

[unkempt egret]

also yea baby pokemon count as bonus cards so you'll get 6 cards if one shows up

[analog storm]

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poor darkrai man

[unkempt egret]

speaking of bad signatures I keep forgetting about Glaciate's existence rofl

literally just icy wind with 10 extra base power

[simple oxide]

rate the squad

[tight granite]

cobblemon looks so awful to me

[bright summit]

Looks better than Pixelmon at least

I actually like how Cobblemon looks tho

[tight granite]

nah dont agree i like that pixelmon isnt trying to be in Minecraft, the Mons actually being 3d is the best

i get why some like the cobblemon style tho, its more "in mc" but to me that just looks weird

[bright summit]

I just generally dislike the clash of styles when done improperly, like how I think pixelmon feels

[tight granite]

but even outside of that Pixelmon did actual pokeball crafting and the right apricot trees, in cobblemon its just an actual tree and there is no custom crafting for it. also the fact that there are just chests with all kinds crap in cobblemon so you dont even need to try and find stuff lul. its so wild to me how every item including like legendary stuff is easy to find in chests but fossils nah gotta look in suspicious sand and gravel for hours

or that hisuin pokemon are just in the wild

also feels like im arguing, but i just suck at writing short sentences lul

[bright summit]

All good

Also, Cobblemon doesn't include hisuian yet, those are from some supplimentary mod likely

[tight granite]

ah

just watchign some yt play cobblemon and they had hisuin mons just in the wild

[bright summit]

Yeah, it's not a finished mod yet

Which is probably also why stuff is mainly in chests

[quasi dagger]

radical red has finally been defeated!

[devout crag]

they just ripped off the 3d models

[devout crag]

my fat baby evolved in a fat teenager

[hybrid dirge]

Forgot the name but there was a pokemon emerald? rom hack/fanmade game for joiplay and i wanted to download it on my laptop but forgot it's name

[vapid kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-penny-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-pokemon-penny-gif-13252985622032103517

PSA: Penny Sucks. That is all

[devout crag]

did bro evolve just to get a few spikes

[sleek jewel]

How long did it take you to get that shiny XD

[sleek jewel]

This is the weirdest team I ever saw

[devout crag]

exotic(?)

[bright summit]

I haven’t play SV yet but I thought she was cool

I like her design and I have two full arts of her in my eevee collection

[vapid kraken]

her design is the best thing about her. her personality is awful imo. she is constantly judging everyone in the game.

[devout crag]

dang

[tight granite]

I kinda hate her design

Short hair and glasses. 2 things I don't enjoy in designs

Her uh art is usually good tho

[devout crag]

started a run on emerald imperium wish me good luck

[simple quartz]

Idk if I'd call Penny the worst character really

She's memorable at least

[devout crag]

ez first gym

[last egret]

Unpopular opinion: Gen 5 is underrated

[devout crag]

depends starters or overall

[last egret]

Overall

[devout crag]

pretty sure most of the comunity loves gen 5

the starters are mid at best

[last egret]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-emboar-black2-white2-tepig-gif-27457150

I’ve never met an Emboar hater

[devout crag]

u just did then

[last egret]

Samurott is an S tier starter

[devout crag]

yeah hes one of my favs

hisuian clears tho

[last egret]

Untrue. When gen 5 first released it was an extremely controversial generation

People disliked the fact the regional dex was limited to only new pokemon

[devout crag]

be fr most of the fandom hates on every new game but then starts loving it

[last egret]

People thought the elemental monkeys were trash, they made fun of the Garbador and Vanilluxe line as uninspired

They considered the region to be far too linear

[devout crag]

again the comunity always hates on new games

[last egret]

They thought triple battles were clunky and unnecessary

Basically hating on Gen 5 was popular back then

[devout crag]

they were a test sadly

[unkempt egret]

keywords: when it first released

[last egret]

Not true. Gen 6 was beloved initially and is still regarded as one of the greatest generations now

[unkempt egret]

plus I thought we've had this discussion before

[unkempt egret]

True

actually yea I'm just gonna add fishy to my "won't read don't care" list

[last egret]

Brother you realize how much people like mega evolutions. People thought the 3D graphics were great for its time

They enjoyed how you could traverse Lumiose city

Pokémon like Greninja were instant classics

[unkempt egret]

usually it takes a gen or two for people to warm up to things

[last egret]

X & Y was beloved at launch and still beloved now

[devout crag]

they did NOT love the 3d graphics

[last egret]

The only criticism Gen 6 had was it was allegedly slightly too easy

[unkempt egret]

even nowadays I still see a lot of people wanting the series to go back to sprites yea

[devout crag]

theres a good chunk of the comunity that still hates the 3d models still

[unkempt egret]

especially with them arguing over how expressive (gen 1) or animated (crystal) they were compared to the gen 3-5 sprites

[devout crag]

they never loved the 3d change

[unkempt egret]

I wouldn't say never but liking them does feel like an unpopular take among those that did play gens 1-5

[last egret]

While I prefer 3D Pokemon, I can acknowledge 2D Pokemon has its charm. Like ya know how Sonic mania used retro art style but was extremely polished while still feeling like an older game

Pokémon should do something similar where they make a game use a 2D sprite art style while still having modern mechanics

[unkempt egret]

then again anything related to popularity feels subjective so I dunno

[last egret]

You can never please everyone

[devout crag]

shouldve kept the bw graphics tbh

[last egret]

Even the best games have their critics. Like for example, people consider Gen 4 to be peak Pokemon but I personally think Diamond and Pearl were very flawed games. I think they got bailed out by platinum

[unkempt egret]

I'm not a stickler for graphics but I can see that

[devout crag]

well u said that the comunity loved the change

[unkempt egret]

as long as the game moves as fast as gens 5-9 do I'm fine lol

[devout crag]

platinum is how u should rework games

[last egret]

People consider HG/SS to be one of the best remakes ever in the series. I’m in the minority who thinks HG/SS’s level curve is atrocious

It’s slightly better than the original GSC but still not very good

[devout crag]

notlike some games coff coff dbsp and lets go coff coff

[devout crag]

the exp thing is true theres not nearly enough to have a real balanced team

[last egret]

I can acknowledge let’s go. It lets older fans re-experience their childhood while allowing Gen Z and Gen Alpha to experience Kanto for the first time

[unkempt egret]

Lets Go at least feels like a sidegrade to FRLG but I can see the hate

[devout crag]

cant deny those "reworks" aka bdsp

[unkempt egret]

BDSP tho I think the only positivity I've seen given to it are from speedrunners who get to not have to put up with DS capture cams rofl

[devout crag]

they just made chibi graphics

[devout crag]

on the other side i never seen anyone speedrun the game

[unkempt egret]

I've seen it here and there but it's not super common compared to the first 3 regions

once you go past gen 2 you start seeing a lot less runs rofl

[devout crag]

yeah

pokemon is just not speedrunnable tbh

[unkempt egret]

outside of maybe gen 8 for hilarious reasons

[devout crag]

[last egret]

It’s harder for modern Pokémon fans to play older games. I’ve seen new fans try out Red/Blue and they absolutely hated that they had no run button, the item menu had no organization, the type balancing was highly flawed, no physical special split, etc

So to say “just play older games” it’s not always the best for newer fans

[unkempt egret]

since with DLC you can just pick a dynamax adventures mon of your wanting and give the maingame a fun time

[devout crag]

i dont tell them to play the oldest games just

NOT sv

[last egret]

They are older games which is your argument

[unkempt egret]

I mean

I would advise SV if it wasn't a steep $ investment lol

but then again I have a lot more like for gens 8-9 than I usually see for it

[devout crag]

i tried SV and it seems like he wants to give attention to too many tthings at the same time

i do like swsh love leggends and despise bdsp

[unkempt egret]

I can see that yea. if you don't have a route it turns into spaghetti super quickly

[devout crag]

also my hate for it may come from the lag too

[last egret]

Even Gen 3 with R/S/E had no physical special split, overuse of HM’s, one-time use TM’s, etc

[unkempt egret]

I don't mind that but I know that's a very common point against it so fair

[last egret]

Many modern fans hate that TM’s were single use in older games

And you always had to sacrifice a Pokémon or move slots for HM’s

[unkempt egret]

legends I've accepted is just not my cup of tea and BSDP...

[last egret]

Ain’t nobody want to learn rock smash

[devout crag]

i never said newer games added only bad stuff

[unkempt egret]

well I finished it but that not much of a charity lol

||would still rank it higher than sonic frontiers tho||

[devout crag]

its mostly supposed to be "oh look complete the dex"

but does it in a great way

[unkempt egret]

yea I still need to get on that for BDSP

[last egret]

Nintendo has acknowledged they have made the game’s difficulty easier over time in order to make it more accessible to all ages

So yes, Sword and Shield is easier than say Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire

But that doesn’t make them bad games

[devout crag]

never said that i actually like the games

also the whole thing for gyms and pokemons in general

[unkempt egret]

assuming you mean Legends here though since yea

[last egret]

Black 2 and White 2 added a challenge mode which gave gym leaders alternate Pokémon’s, changed some opponent AI tendencies, gave a wider variety of held items to enemies, etc

[devout crag]

yeah i meant leggends

[last egret]

I think Pokémon should do that

[unkempt egret]

hmmmm

[devout crag]

its undeniable that the game did it in a great way

[unkempt egret]

now that I'm thinking I kinda wanna try out New Snap for september's game clear

[unkempt egret]

which I'm not denying. as I said, just not my cup of tea.

[devout crag]

yeah understandable

[unkempt egret]

actually off topic but

I don't like ORAS but I will say that game did secret bases so well

[devout crag]

go in the off topic channel then

[devout crag]

fair enough

i dont like most of the 3ds games idk why tho

[unkempt egret]

rofl first thing I see there is "chatter upset that off topic is used for off topic things"

I think the only game I outright dislike is gen 1? mostly since I didn't play it much at the time so I have no nostalgia for it

[devout crag]

i got no nostalgia for the gba games at all

still enjoy them tho

[unkempt egret]

understandable

[devout crag]

so not everyone loves the old games since they hit with nostalgia i suppose

arguement that most new members haters use against the old games

[unkempt egret]

I mean I'll still use it for gen 1 specifically but I accept being called out on it lol

mostly since the other friend groups I'm in are the ones that only know of gens 1/2 for the most part since they usually play other series

[devout crag]

yeah understandable

i just have no friends irl so i play every game i see out of boredom

[unkempt egret]

also understandable

gonna have to hop out for a bit

[devout crag]

aight cya

[last egret]

Was old Pokémon actually better or is it just the nostalgia goggles?

Like to me I acknowledge that R/B/Y laid the foundation for every future game, but the games themselves have a lot of fundamental issues that later generations fixed

[sweet crypt]

The only 2 games I've finished the full Pokedex for are Legends Arceus and SV

For the former you literally MUST finish the Pokedex to beat the full game

So it's to be expected that it's probably the easiest game to finish the full dex in

No stupid version exclusives or trade evolutions

[brisk hedge]

Yes and no. If we’re talking old Pokémon as in Gen 1, then no, old Pokémon is nowhere near as good as what came after. But if we’re talking about old Pokémon as in pre switch era, then old Pokémon is better, because newer games lack many features of older games, and in the case of SV, are full of bugs

[willow wigeon]

hey does anyone have an invite to the pokemon empyrean discord?

[quasi dagger]

not that long it came from the game corner lol

[viral matrix]

I'd say gens 3,4 and 5 were the best pokemon was.

After that, their priorities went haywire and they didn't release anything as good as those gens.

There were some steps in the right direction in modern gens but they're held back by how middling the gameplay experience is, the addition of unnecessary gameplay mechanics like dynamax and terrastalization and even rushing them into store shelves in SV's case

[unkempt egret]

I've noticed that's the common opinion yea

though I do say that gens 1-2, 3-5, and 6-9 are practically 3 different franchises in terms of overall feel

[last egret]

Throw in Gen 6 with them

[viral matrix]

I see that

[last egret]

Then I’ll agree

[viral matrix]

[unkempt egret]

(four if you count 6-7 and 8-9 as their own which I sometimes do)

[viral matrix]

The only good from XY were aegislash and mega evolution

[unkempt egret]

I like XY just as a casual nuzlocke where I can use whatever and generally be fine as long as I have answers for a few specific fights

actually imo

[last egret]

Pokémon to me is split into 3 eras:
Gameboy Era (Gens 1-3)
DS Era (Gens 4-7)
Switch Era (Gens 8-now)

[unkempt egret]

XY and Sword/Shield feel like two sides of the same coin for me rofl

insane mon selection and low(ish, XY's difficulty is strange) difficulty and generally eh everything else

[viral matrix]

SS at least has some good character designs

Leon does look silly tho

[viral matrix]

Y'know what? Fair

🤝

[unkempt egret]

XY is so strange for difficulty because most of the more dangerous fights are like random trainers that run edgequake (rockdoze?) coverage or set-up moves out of nowhere

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-movie-funny-memes-wait-more-wayans-gif-7660534031485560668

[unkempt egret]

quick ball emote*

[sleek jewel]

why does the backround look so like old minecraft

[noble zealot]

The Golden Days resource packs and the Nostalgic Tweaks mod

[sleek jewel]

cool XD

[toxic sandal]

Poksmin reborn

What do I do when I've been banned from the gym, I think ferns gym. The one connected to onyx school.

And how do I get a coin case?

[sweet crypt]

Coin case can be received from someone in the school. There's a side entrance to the school you need to take to enter it

However, since Fern is a douche, you'll have to fight off like half of the entire school because somehow this mf is popular

The gym leader isn't Fern btw, it's his sister who's also the head of the academy

Still a Grass type trainer though

[sweet crypt]

Can we talk about how weird Arcanine is?

It's a dog

Based off a lion

That has stripes like a tiger

Called a "Legendary"

While not being one at all

Like wtf lmao

[umbral egret]

i think while gen 6 was weak, gen 7 def made up for it, though there were some annoying bits, it was a solid gen overall

gen 8 onward is starts to drop rapidly

[delicate hollow]

Any Sword and Shield rom hacks with modified Pokemon stats such as BST, abilities (and hidden ones) and moves etc?

[coral raft]

Im thinking of playing regulation J, rate my team

[noble zealot]

It actually may have been planned as a Legendary at some point, if this scene in the second episode of the anime is any indication:

[noble zealot]

Sacred Sword & King's Shield

[brisk hedge]

What are you talking about? Arcanine meets literally all of the criteria for being a legendary

[sweet crypt]

Still isn't a legendary even if it was planned at some point

It does have BST on par with Legendaries like Urshifu, Ogerpon and the Loyal 3, but that's more so the legendaries being as strong as normal Pokemon than the opposite

[noble zealot]

I know, it's just worth mentioning

[brisk hedge]

But it meets all of the criteria for being a legendary

[unkempt egret]

says who

also something something gen 1 different franchise

[brisk hedge]

The joke is that there are no criteria for legendary Pokémon

[sweet crypt]

Idk they're all unable to breed (unless your name is Manaphy) and the fully evolved ones have big fucking stats (unless your name is Phione)

They also tend to be one per savefile

Without trading at least

There's definitely some exceptions to that like uhhh

Cosmog line in specifically the Ultra games

And uhh

Uhhhhhh

Phione

And Meltan line I guess but PoGo is weird

Technically you can get any number of most legendaries in PoGo

And it isn't a mainline game

Technically the Legendary Birds is SwSh

Since technically the galarian forms are in the code the same Pokemon

Even if in lore they're more like Convergents

[devout crag]

yall my cousin told me to use this team

[sweet crypt]

Your cousin wants you to suffer I think

[devout crag]

should i try it

long time i odnt play in showdown

[devout crag]

pretty sure yeah

[sweet crypt]

Assault Vest with Parting Shot, Nasty Plot, Protect, Roost and Tailwind is

Certainly something

[unkempt egret]

that ain't a joke that's just reality

[devout crag]

im just gonna try it on a random match and tell u how it went

[sweet crypt]

I assume this is meant to be a VGC team of some sorts???

[devout crag]

i think?

[unkempt egret]

when you're so used to knock off spam that you just expect it to be a constant

[sweet crypt]

I mean they're supposed to be level 50 for that

Level 100 implies Smogon Doubles

And Miraidon implies Doubles Ubers

[devout crag]

ehhh i dont really showdown anymore

[sweet crypt]

But bringing this team to Doubles Ubers sounds like torture

[devout crag]

im sure its going to be

[unkempt egret]

then why do

[sweet crypt]

Effect Spore on Amoonguss, Flamigo existing

[unkempt egret]

o i didn't see cousin my b

[sweet crypt]

Make It Rainless Gholdengo

With both Play Rough and Dgleam

0 STAB

[unkempt egret]

ass vest on a non-regen/drain user no less 3 of em

[sweet crypt]

And those 2 moves are the only ones you can click

[devout crag]

at least he got spore and not sleep powder or sum like that ?

[unkempt egret]

pretty sure he's just thinking that Miraidon will OHKO everything since it does in-game and everything else just picks up the scraps

[devout crag]

yeah def

[sweet crypt]

Did that in Singles Ubers too, to be fair

[devout crag]

he thinks it

[sweet crypt]

Also yeah dupe items

So definitely Doubles Ubers

Unless this is a Singles team

Which in that case you're better off dying

[devout crag]

im pretty sure its meant for doubles

[sweet crypt]

Because now you have to deal with Calyrex Shadow in Singles

[devout crag]

he just called me and said to try this team he made himself

[sweet crypt]

Tera Calyrex Shadow is the 2nd most broken Singles Pokemon of all time if I'm gonna be completely honest

[devout crag]

well at least he didnst just make a team of 6 arceus or stuff like that

[sweet crypt]

Only Gen 1 Mewtwo is more absurd than it

[devout crag]

no idea on how to fix the movesets its a long time i dont play showdown

now that i look at it no way i can play it

i may just add the classic sturdy endeavour quick attack aron

on singles tho

[sweet crypt]

Loses to Calyrex Shadow, LC at best

[devout crag]

i can take down a non ghost type at least

[sweet crypt]

Unless Stealth Rocks/Spikes

Or Sunsteel Strike

Or Photon Geyser

[devout crag]

well he can get shadow sneak

[sweet crypt]

Moongeist Beam doesn't matter Lunala's a Ghost type anyways

[devout crag]

i suppose

[sweet crypt]

Nope

And Endeavor straight up doesn't work either

[devout crag]

its like 1 year or more i dont touch this site dont mind me being dumb

[sweet crypt]

I'm pretty sure Aron learns neither Quick Attack nor Shadow Sneak actually

Endeavor on Aron is run alongside Shell Bell while at Level 1

So you kinda just

Instantly are at a 5v6 against a serious team

I uhh

[devout crag]

its basically a self destruct mon in a vanilla game

[sweet crypt]

Dont think being level 100 changes that, actually

[devout crag]

pretty sure it does

[sweet crypt]

I feel like bringing any FEAR strategy Pokemon at level 100 or 1 is just resigning yourself to having only 5 Pokemon and a free switch

[devout crag]

if its level 1 he will refill his health no matter what

[sweet crypt]

Even in low ladder NatDex you're probably gonna find entry hazards

So Sturdy can't save you

[devout crag]

lvl 100 maybe can tank 1 hit

[sweet crypt]

And you instantly die

[devout crag]

if ur dumb enough to put evs in defense and defense nature

[sweet crypt]

In Doubles, entry hazards basically don't exist

[devout crag]

ehh idc

[sweet crypt]

But they can just

Double target

FEAR kinda just doesn't work 50 to 100% of the time

Depending on where on the ladder you are

[devout crag]

ur saying that like im the one that made the team

[devout crag]

last time i played was on my crappy pc

didnt even log in chrome since my mom didnt want me to play games on it

[sweet crypt]

Also apparently Kyurem Black exists in AG

[devout crag]

i was like mid ladder i think

[sweet crypt]

That also shuts down FEAR

Because it spams Loaded Dice Icicle Spear/Scale Shot

[devout crag]

loaded dice goes vroom

[sweet crypt]

And has Teravolt anyways

So it just OHKOs no matter what with any move

[devout crag]

end of the day the team sucked

[sweet crypt]

Unless you use the thing that FEAR actually stands for

Focus Sash Endeavor quick Attack Rattata

Then you die in 2 hits of 1 move instead of 1 hit

[devout crag]

i mean

why use it if everyone knows it

[sweet crypt]

Same reason you'd use Aron

For if you want to play 5v6

Why do people use Rattata for FEAR, anyways?

[devout crag]

it was just a joke

[sweet crypt]

It isn't even the best Pokemon at classic FEAR

And it never has been

Focus Sash was introduced in Gen 4, being the last component introduced for FEAR

[devout crag]

wait showdown has random teams

[sweet crypt]

Random Battles yes

However, Tailow has the Flying type and the same 2 moves

Hence, it is immune to Spikes

[devout crag]

the image is not loading💔

[sweet crypt]

Which will stop Rattata

[devout crag]

oh there we go

[sweet crypt]

There's still a ton of other stuff that stops it

But from the beginning, Rattata was outclassed for FEAR by Tailow

And the gap only grew when Tailow got Scrappy, allowing it to hit Ghosts

Still basically never works

But works far more often than Rattata

[devout crag]

i got it vro😭

im gonna try random teams

[sweet crypt]

The best classic FEAR mon nowadays is probably either Flamigo or Tailow/Swellow

Leaning towards the former

Tailow and Swellow can switch into Ghost types, while Flamigo has Feint, which has more priority than moves like Aqua Jet, Sucker Punch or Mach Punch

[unkempt egret]

late but didn't that start as a means of catching legendaries? (the rattata variant I mean) I could be wrong on that.

rattata only picked up specifically because it was gen 4 and "top percentage" was still the meme of the time

[sweet crypt]

OK but all of Doduo, Starly and Tailow do it better even back in Gen 4 contexts

If you're gonna use a meme strategy at least use the one that works most

[unkempt egret]

but yea in general any strat that relies on the lack of entry hazards (singles) or redrection/protection (doubles) is basically doomed on concept

[sweet crypt]

If Focus Sash existed 1 generation earlier maybe FEAR would've been less shit

[unkempt egret]

you doubt how much power a meme has over people wanting to play optimally I see

[sweet crypt]

Since while it still gets hard stopped by Ghosts, Tailow and Doduo will ignore all existing entry hazards

[unkempt egret]

at least among those that aren't competitive, people will take any chance to attempt to use something unviable

[sweet crypt]

Note that I specified 1 generation earlier

[unkempt egret]

or extrapolate freak accidents (pachirisu) as "proof"

[sweet crypt]

Focus Sash was introduced in Generation 4

[unkempt egret]

yea

[sweet crypt]

Stealth Rocks were introduced in Generation 4 too

1 generation earlier, they wouldn't exist