other-pokemon-games

[covert fiber]

They used it on their teams for the trailer footage

Same with florges and vivillon

Nope im wrong either way

Talonflame is not on the box art

Fletchling is tho

But they are far behind

[brisk hedge]

That’s probably because it’s a Kalos Pokémon

[covert fiber]

Yes but

I noticed a pattern for some pokemon

The devs used vivillon and florges the most

Now wait

[brisk hedge]

Again, they’re Gen 6 Pokémon

[covert fiber]

This could be because they got different colors and patterns

But

[brisk hedge]

That are found pretty early on in X and Y

[covert fiber]

What more would they need to test than just patterns and colors

[terse pollen]

Chat is pokemon insurgence good

[terse pollen]

thanks chat

[north vessel]

pokerogue still hard, many months and shinies later

[left phoenix]

Mega Slaking tomorrow

Its ability is Kong and it gives 300% boost of normal type moves and also can hit ghost

[coarse estuary]

so basically huge power mixed with scrappy

[left phoenix]

Yes and no

Huge power doubles attack stat

This would make normal moves have its power X3

Anyways at least johto starters are going to get better

[sweet crypt]

Imo yeah, but it does suffer a bit from being kinda old

[terse pollen]

Bummer

Would be cool if they made a newer one

[sweet crypt]

So basically

They gave Slaking 526.5 base attack

And then allowed it to hit ghosts

[left phoenix]

Yeah why not?

[sweet crypt]

Yes, I calculated it

Slaking's Attack with 252 EVs and 31 IVs is 419
419×3=1257
By inserting 1257 into the formula for stat calculation, we can find out what base attack you would need to reach 1257, where B is the base damage
Below is the formula for calculating non HP stats
((2×B+IV+EV÷4)×Level)/100)+Level+10
Where B is the base stat. At max level, this can be simplified to...
(2+B+IV+EV÷4)+100+10
This stat calculation will assume you are at the max 31 IVs and 252 EVs. Thus, the formula will be
(2×B+31+63)+100+10
And from here, it's simple math
(2×B+31+63)+100+10=1257
2B+94+110=1257
2B+204=1257
2B=1257-204
2B=1053
B=1053÷2
B=526.5

The reason I have to calculate this is because the absolute max for a Pokemon's base stat is 255

Thus, I am unable to find it by simply inserting numbers in the Showdown calculator

TLDR: What the fuck lmao

Thankfully, it's only on Normal moves

But like

At this point that's the only move type you're gonna click

Like, in terms of move power

A Return/Frustration would have 459 power after STAB

[unkempt egret]

probably a dumb question but

are attacking stats subject to that same glitch that defense stats get if you make them too high

[sweet crypt]

On a Rock or Steel type, it'd have 229.5 power

[unkempt egret]

I think a flat x3 on damage wouldn't trigger it (outside of I think gen 2 having an overflow glitch?) since I remember it being something with the raw stat but curious on it

[sweet crypt]

I'm not sure if abilities could trigger this glitch

Stuff like Huge Power directly boost all physical moves by 2×, and not Attack. It's just referred to as the latter for simplicity

Huge Power iirc does actually boost Body Press

[sweet crypt]

Anyways, this is higher than Earthquake's power on them of 200

[sweet crypt]

Also, I'm not entirely sure if this glitch still exists

SV may have removed it

But yeah, it was pivotal to making Gen 8 Pure Hackmons as miserable as possible with Emax Eternatus

[sweet crypt]

The only time this could be worth it is against a Rock/Steel type

[unkempt egret]

yea that's what I remember it from (outside of the gen 2 one which I think marowak triggered because of the thick club?)

[sweet crypt]

In this scenario, EQ will have 400 power and Return would have like idk 114.25 power or something

But even then, 114.25 is more than enough to break past most Pokemon

And who the fuck is using Aggron or Bastiodon anyways

[brittle briar]

CHAT

I DID IT!!!

[tropic hinge]

Is this actually a thing that's happening? Or just concepting power creep?

[brisk hedge]

It's a joke

[tropic hinge]

Okay. Wanted to be sure.

[sweet crypt]

It would be funny

But yeah no

This would literally be tied for 2nd highest BST with Primal Groudon and Kyogre

While having a far superior ability

[brisk hedge]

Ok, but hear me out: the ability does that, but it also makes it so Slaking can only move once every 4 turns

[sweet crypt]

Becomes abysmal worthless dogshit

You have so many turns to stop it

And in the very worst case scenario that should never happen, you have Protect

Or Substitute if you're faster

But admittedly

You probably aren't gonna be faster

Slaking's base speed is fucking 100

[brisk hedge]

Weird, considering it's so lazy it can only attack every other turn

[sweet crypt]

Slaking isn't physically slow evidently

It simply doesn't feel like moving sometimes

[brisk hedge]

Meanwhile Vikavolt, who can supposedly do acrobatic flying maneuvers, is slower then its prevolution

[sweet crypt]

After all, the ability isn't called "Oh no I ran out of Stamina and can't move"

The ability is called Truant

It is actively choosing not to attack

Despite the capability to do so

[round isle]

So charizard had truant

[coarse estuary]

decided to do 1 roll on my console after doing some emu hunts off and on since march and finally found a shiny

[noble saffron]

shiny finneon sighting in my pixelmon modpack

[coarse estuary]

Starting my white 2 portion of the Gen 5 casual replay

[coarse estuary]

So many whishcash

[brisk hedge]

First try

[delicate hollow]

Hi has anyone done a challenge involving a solo run or only weak beginner moves from start to finish?

What about unevolved pre evolved forms aka only "babies"?

Or a challenge to ONLY catch and use the rarest encounters EVER FOUND?

[sweet crypt]

That's not the common definition of baby pokemon but alright

I do know there has been at least a few challenges where Pokemon are not allowed to learn new moves

And a lot of 1 Pokemon challenge runs revolve NFEs

Including babies

And first stages in general

There's also the littlelocke, a nuzlocke that only allows LC eligible Pokemon (including LCUbers)

Though uhh

That does include some pretty strong Pokemon

Scyther in Gens 2 and onwards, Chansey before Gen 4, many Gen 2 Pokemon (mainly Sneasel and Gligar) in Gen 4 and onwards, Duraludon, Dunsparce, Girafarig etc in Gen 9 come to mind in terms of BST

And if you want to think actually good Pokemon standalone, Ferroseed can be included amongst them too

As for rarest encounters, define rarest

As in just rarest in the route?

For example like idk

SOS call Salamence

Because if that's the case the hardest part is probably finding the Pokemon and not actually beating the game

[unkempt egret]

I technically did a littlelocke but I was running off size-based rules

(1.9 feet or below and 20kg or below)

technically the official limit is 2 meters but by those rules blacephleon would be allowed

(that was a sword run so 1.9 feet was specifically to ban Greedent who's a flat 2 feet)

[sweet crypt]

2 meters limit for a littlelocke sounds kinda fucking ridiculous

That is not little at all

You could use every starter except for Rillaboom, Torterra, Feraligatr and Mega Venusaur

[unkempt egret]

yea even in stadium that banned exactly one pokemon that wasn't already banned by the more impactful 20kg weight limit (ekans)

[sweet crypt]

And if you mean above 2 meters while still weighting 20 kg or below, then who tf meets those criteria apart from the funny head nuke guy

But also even then

[unkempt egret]

snakes mostly because length measurement lol

[sweet crypt]

Would you call a 2 meter long snake little

Ah yes this snake is longer than I am tall

It's clearly little

[unkempt egret]

I mean silicobra maybe lol

but yea that's official and there's a reason why I chopped that requirement in half

...and then chopped it a tiny bit more specifically to ban the squirrel

(which is mostly because in shield it's a good strat that makes Allister basically free)

[real nest]

what mod do you have that increases stack size?

[devout crag]

yall any mainline pokemon game to try im bored again

[coarse estuary]

what ones have you played/not played depending on what youve played i can suggest one and a fun little challenge to add ot it to make it more fun

[devout crag]

every gameboy one platinum ss and the gen 3 remakes

that ive completed at least

the others didnt play them

or i forgot them after naming the character

[coarse estuary]

then id suggest you do what im doing which is a gen5 casual runthrough where i start with bw1 then play through the main story and post game while following along with chuggaas yt lp and doing all the events then using that save to unova link into the bw2 version that matches the bw1 version i played then following chuggaas playthrough main game and post game doing all the content the game has to offer

[devout crag]

k ill do that

problem is my nintendo is broken so i have to emulate them💔

[coarse estuary]

thats fine tbh. also whatever bw1 color you pick, chose the same color for bw2 so dont do like black 1 then white 2

[devout crag]

aight

[coarse estuary]

im excited to see how you like gen 5 and chuggaa his bw1 and bw2 playthroughs are my fave casual playthroughs of pokemon of all time and gen 5 as a whole is my fave pokemon gen

[devout crag]

lol im downloading the rom rn

[devout crag]

i think ill watch chuggaa if i dont know what to do since its a blind run for me

[coarse estuary]

i think watching him just as you play along is also a good idea just because he goes over all the encounters that are new in an area and says whats good and bad about them if you were to use them on your team

plus he is really funny some times

[devout crag]

aight

so basically an english version of one of my fav ytbers

but hes italian

[coarse estuary]

hope i dont get my nucord co-op run curse again where i get someone who doesnt read what kinda nuzlocke i wanna do with them then get mad at the rules they didnt read then ditch me 1/2 way through like the last times. if it happens 1 more time i think its a sign to not do co-op nuzlockes of anykind

[devout crag]

lol

[coarse estuary]

i find it really funny when the people who have never nuzlocked in their life try to do a cagelocke then complain they are losing

[devout crag]

first gym leader is lowkey annoying

he spams a status move then use spam an attacking one

[coarse estuary]

yeah. game kinda wants you to not over level the starter and use monkey to help

[unkempt egret]

it's very much intended to teach you to Talk To Everyone and Explore rather than rush objective rofl

[devout crag]

had to use him yeah

[coarse estuary]

well the randomizer runs starting off good as my starter was deoxys speed

[noble saffron]

Bigger Stacks by "thanksihadtosignupforthis". for Forge

sorry for the late reply. You can edit the stack size with a command in the chat, I think.

[noble saffron]

Never seen an npc trainer have a shiny b4 in pixelmon

[delicate hollow]

Caspakid and frittler or frittle are the paldea babies of the region am I correct?
Though I thought a baby pokemon is one who can't learn new moves until they build a stronger relationship with their trainer and they evolve

[simple quartz]

Thanks for the input Jimmy

[sweet crypt]

Paldea has 0 babies

Same goes for Alola, Kalos and Unova, along with Kanto ofc

Only Gens 2, 3, 4 and 8 had babies

[scarlet yew]

Hey, I wanted to toss out a general question, what is everyone's thoughts on the current type chart for the base pokemon games and how welcoming is the idea of a fan game that changes up the type chart?

[devout crag]

team so far (ignore pansear)

[unkempt egret]

I mean I've seen a few that do change up the chart whether drastically (goofy version, later touhoumon versions) or minorly (such as Kuray's better bug/ice type settings fir IF) so I wouldn't be against the idea if it either has logic behind it or is done as the entire point

[twin monolith]

Does anyone else Nickname their team based on a theme?

[coarse estuary]

not all fully evolved yet as im only in nimbassa city but what type would yal recommend for my 6th member?

[unkempt egret]

hmmmmm looks well rounded so far, maybe a psychic or a flying type?

my mind's going beheeyem just to spice it up but any of those types works

[coarse estuary]

ive also heard grass thrown round as an option

[brisk hedge]

I nickname my Pokémon on the theme of nothing (which means I don’t name them)

[brisk hedge]

I’d recommend an Ice and Dark type

[coarse estuary]

dont think i can get weavile in bw2

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-john-cena-are-you-sure-gif-5783187

(The second screenshot is the Razor claw)

[brisk hedge]

Now make a living dex

[coarse estuary]

hince why i said dont think. i didnt say i couldnt

[sweet crypt]

Hmm... the team could maybe struggle with a Dragon type. Maybe an Ice or fast Dragon type?

Also, Darmanitan is incredibly based

Reason why I say Dragon could be an issue is because 2 of your Pokemon are resisted by Dragon and you don't really have a consistent answer for it

Tbf Ice and Dragon aren't entirely consistent either depending on the situation

Magnezone does resist Dragon and can hit them for neutral, but Iris runs anti-steel coverage on all of her dragons (and so does Ghetsis, but only in BW for some reason)

[coarse estuary]

gonna start a ng+ genlocke

[unkempt egret]

good thing it's also B2/W2 and not BW since BW's gym is nasty in a nuz

since I think it's one of the only gyms in the entire series that has a point-of-no-return at one point?

[sleek zephyr]

Because of a low stat in imagination, I mostly give human names to Pokémon.
4 of the 6 members of my mono-Bug HoF had human names (Josefa, Bianca, Francis, Nikola), 1 was inspired by a game (Oko-san) and 1 was a punny name (Beegflo; there's a French rapper named Bigflo)

[devout crag]

depends, that or i call them random fornitures

[vital flare]

Recently learnt how to use egg coupons on pokerogue never knew of the second menu 😂

[devout crag]

does this team stand a chance against brawly (emerald imperium)

[sweet crypt]

Look on the bright side! You're gonna be swimming in eggs and then you're gonna fucking destroy classic mode

[devout crag]

nvm that team worked with brawly

[vital flare]

True just need tons of vouchers

[sweet crypt]

I mean you rolled up with 2 Flying types, a Ghost type and a Psychic type

I'd be surprised if it didn't work

[devout crag]

haunter was useless and his sandslash almost soloed

[sweet crypt]

Wait how? You have 3 Ground immunities and a Ground resist

[devout crag]

had to switch haunter for mugby just for that

[devout crag]

half the team suffers that

and he knows bulldoze

[sweet crypt]

Yeah but you have 3 Pokemon immune to Bulldoze

And a Pokemon that resists Bulldoze

Haunter has Levitate as its literal only ability possible

[vital flare]

Gengar losing levitate is a crime

[sweet crypt]

OK but counterpoint

[devout crag]

he got pikachu libre gurdurr with eviolite hariyama alolan sandslash and makuhita

[sweet crypt]

Do you want Gengar to switch in in your Primal Groudon

And then start blasting its ass with Shadow Ball

[vital flare]

Eh?

[sweet crypt]

I guess you force it into not Mega Evolving at least

But still

[devout crag]

wah

[sweet crypt]

Mega Gengar does not need that tiny extra bit of help

In fact Mega Gengar needs the opposite of help

[vital flare]

Because trade Evo gengars are mostly off limits for me

[sweet crypt]

It lowkey needs a nerf

[devout crag]

fair

gotta think on a new team for the third gym now

[sweet crypt]

Sucks that base Gengar has to suffer for it though

It's not like Levitate Gengar would be broken

It never has been broken

Yknow what, here's the play for the Pdon player against a theoretical Mega Gengar with Base Gengar Levitate

Run Stone Edge

Yeah that's it

That said Mega Gengar tanks Stone Edge

So now you're playing mindgames

Yippee!

[devout crag]

gotta make a team for the electric gym ngl

[sweet crypt]

Oh it was Alolan Sandslash

[devout crag]

yeah

[sweet crypt]

Yeah that explains why you got kinda cooked

[devout crag]

the grotle went against all odds and soloed the rest

[sweet crypt]

Anyways out of Brawly's 6 Pokemon, 2 weren't Fighting types

[devout crag]

yeah

[sweet crypt]

So I think Wattson will have 1-3 Pokemon specifically for Ground types

[devout crag]

well i took the must

[devout crag]

pretty sure he will have moves that counter them too

[sweet crypt]

I'm thinking 1 will be a Rock type as that will cover both Flying and Ice

And then 1 will be an Ice type that learns Freeze Dry which covers Grass and Water

Rock also covers Bug actually

[devout crag]

wish i could check the teams

[sweet crypt]

Wait why am I thinking of ways to beat the Ground type counters

I think my brain is faulty

Anyways

[devout crag]

well i do have some more zones to find new pokemons

[sweet crypt]

Pretend my brain is somewhat usable

[devout crag]

ima think on the team when ill need to do the gym

[sweet crypt]

Rock still may be used to cover Ice though

[devout crag]

i do have fighting types

[sweet crypt]

My brain is not working

OK wait hold up

[devout crag]

lol

[sweet crypt]

I need to get more sleep soon

[devout crag]

go get it then idk

[sweet crypt]

Anyways

Covering Grass is still good here

And so is covering Dragon

And Ground

So yeah

Wattson will probably bring an Ice type

Boltbeam is famous after all

And I'm thinking he may bring a Ground type of his own to cover opposing Electric types that resist Electric

Anyways hopefully my brain doesn't have any more blunders today

If you can evolve Swinub, I'd say it'd be a pretty good pick

Even better if you have a way to relearn Ancient Power and evolve it again

Mamoswine should be capable of handling any Electric types

And even in a scenario where it faces off against Water or Grass types that Wattson may bring, it's a pretty fast Pokemon and can land 1 more hit before going down

And against a Grass type, that one more hit may just OHKO

Since it hits very hard

You can also just swap out

Piloswine should still be good

They also have the benefit of being neutral to Ice

Which could be a type Wattson brings

Grotle as it is is also a pretty good pick I'd say, even better if you can evolve it

[devout crag]

yeah thats my starter

cant evolve it tho

level cap stops him

[sweet crypt]

Ok so the level cap is between 30 and 32

Unfortunate, that disallows Piloswine from being used

[devout crag]

its 32 but it might go higher i just beated may

she was ez ngl

yeah i can evolve him now

nvm lvl cap is 34

[devout crag]

gotta build the team now

[devout crag]

ngl ill do it tmrw

[simple quartz]

Is this Elite Redux

[delicate hollow]

Anyone attempt to shiny hunt a 1% rare encounter or a wild female Combee/Salandit?

[devout crag]

emerald imperium

[devout crag]

do i look insane

[vital flare]

I once got a baby shiny female salandit from wonder trade back in alola era

[sweet crypt]

Speaking of Elite Redux

I'm doing an Elite Redux rando run and it is about as mentally deranged as I was hoping it'd be

Elite Redux is the game you play when you want batshit insanity

(Affectionate)

And randomiser quintuples the insanity

[coarse estuary]

since i got some time ima start my ng+ genlocke in red

[torn zealot]

So uhhh weird Pokemon Violet glitch (Switch one version)

[brisk hedge]

What’s the glitch?

[torn zealot]

the eyes

[brisk hedge]

I hate my life

[torn zealot]

oh

[delicate hollow]

Sadly for me I just can't get into TCG so I don't have Pocket TCG on my phone

[sour depot]

please tell me this is normal?

it was a double battle with the twin trainers

i couldnt catch them

[torn zealot]

tragic

[sour depot]

yea

[dark prism]

any good nicknames for Dusknoir?

[left phoenix]

Thanatos

[novel ibex]

Probably gonna start a Black 2 playthrough in a bit, anyone got advice? It's my first time playing

[novel ibex]

Erebus, if you still want one

[pearl badger]

yall know any good rom hacks?

[novel ibex]

Elite Redux? It's the only rom hack I have rn

[dark prism]

Pisces, Unbound, Elite Redux, Odyssey, etc.

[pearl badger]

so hypothetically, which work on an actual ds?

[unkempt egret]

Viva las Vega, Super Mariomon, Alte Red (ok this one might be tricky), Altered Emerald are also good ones

though I'm not sure if they'd work on a DS

[pearl badger]

i just prefer playing them on my dsi because actual hardware

i wish infinite fusion worked on an actual ds ngl

[pearl badger]

odyssey seems really good and interesting, im about to play it now

[unkempt egret]

late but understandable, hope odyssey works well!

out of the ones I listed, Viva las Vega isn't a decomp hack (I dunno if Alte is) so that one might work out as another option

[sour depot]

Yes.

[sour depot]

Uranium is another good one

[devout crag]

yall i need help to make a team for the third gym in emerald imperium

nvm came to a team without knowing the mons he got

oh god he got megas

nvm it was ez

[vital flare]

Does anyone know how egg steps work in pokerogue?

[sweet crypt]

Common eggs hatch in 10 completed waves

Rare eggs hatch in 25

Epic eggs hatch in 50

And Legendary eggs hatch in 100

There's also the manaphy eggs which I think also hatch in 50 but I could be wrong

I dont really pay attention to those

[vital flare]

Holy mew

[terse pollen]

I caught a shiny in another game but it's a fucking caterpie

I'm never gonna get to use this

[tight granite]

only if you dont use it

[unkempt egret]

I mean butterfree's actually an acceptable in-game support with the pseudo-spore thing

unless it was in gen 2 in which case lol

[coarse estuary]

im both excited and scared for this ng+ genlocke just becuase there are lots of mons i used in my og genlocke and won with that id love to use again but due to it being a ng+ one i cant

[terse pollen]

It's a rom that's entirely double battles

Maybe I could use it but Butterfree's kinda ass

[devout crag]

how chaotic is it

[terse pollen]

It's pretty good I recommend it

[devout crag]

name

[terse pollen]

It's called Pokemon Odyssey and it's somewhat open world

[devout crag]

after i finish emerald imperium il try it

[terse pollen]

Bet

[devout crag]

kinda stuck tho

ion have trusted mons to take the 4th gym

[terse pollen]

I believe in you

You can do it

What do you have on your team rn?

[devout crag]

i might as well send a pic of everything i got

have to build new team every gym

[terse pollen]

That sounds rough

And kind of annoying if I'm being honest

[devout crag]

not rlly

more challenging

i do lose like 30 mins on think tho

since i cant go braindead with 6 water types

she will def have counters to it

this is my stuff

[terse pollen]

Woah sick mons

So is next gym fire type?

[devout crag]

yeah

at least of the 6 will be counter to fire

im sure on that

[terse pollen]

Right

Garganacal might be a good pick

[devout crag]

yeah him will be there

i might as well point on ground types tho

at least 1 electric type too

[terse pollen]

Why electric

[devout crag]

im guessing the gym leader will have 1 water type

since the creators aint dumb

also the ai of the trainers is quite smart

ill grind tmrw

[terse pollen]

Fair enough

[sour depot]

I had to do a triple take- they added komomo-

[sour depot]

Oh my I'm such a dumb-

[devout crag]

yeah

[noble saffron]

Who else is excited for Pokemon Champions

[leaden hazel]

Try elite redux, one of my favourite romhacks

[devout crag]

after im done with this

this guy has the team that counters my whole box

i swear heracross.

[leaden hazel]

What romhack r you playing now??

[devout crag]

emerald imperium

I DID IT

random trainer.

[candid spindle]

i actually have a fakemon that is a spider mixed in with a cannon

called cannider

its steel/bug

[devout crag]

ngl thats a cool idea

[devout crag]

the real goat he tanked leafstorm stabbed by serperior just to areal ace him

[hybrid dirge]

Bro what happened to scyther

[devout crag]

they hate him ig

[vital flare]

Holy mew

[noble saffron]

What game is that

[real nest]

I'm pretty sure that the Scyther line was reworked in that hack (that mon evolves into any of the Scyther line, but removes Scyther's bility to evolve into Scizor or Kleavor)

oh that's ER?

[vital flare]

Pokerogue browser game (works on mobile too)

[noble saffron]

Thank you

[brisk tartan]

How do I download pokemon iridium

On retroarch

[hybrid dirge]

Yes it's elite redux

[uneven reef]

Hey guys

I just got into the famgames scene

And downloaded a couple and was wondering if you guys could give me a direction on which one to play first cuz I'm having trouble deciding

Right now I have Pokemon ashen frost, azure, Bushido, bioterror, comet, hidden place, infinity, insurgence, infinite fusions, itinerant, independence, keishou, legacy, outbounds, opalo, reborn, reminesecia, rejuvenation/where love lies, shattered light, solar light/lunar dark, this gym of mine, twisted fate, uranium, and vanguard

I have already played infinite fusions

@here

[echo hill]

Both solar light and vanguard are getting updated relatively soonish so hold off on those

In my opinion opalo is peak

Difficulty isn’t to bad either

[uneven reef]

Okay

Thanks

[uneven reef]

Fire deltarune pfp

[echo hill]

Thx put it during ch. 1 and just didn’t change it since then

@uneven reef also if you want more peak pokemon content i got pokemon old world dawn and pokemon odyssey

The second on is only double battles tho so be prepared

[uneven reef]

Ight

I play on mobile tho so I have restrictions

[upper glen]

Was it worth the Master Ball guys?

I ran out of regular balls.

[full plume]

If it's a shiny you like, then yeah 100% it is

If it's not then no

[uneven reef]

@echo hill How many fakemons does opalo have?

[echo hill]

theres about 24 regional lines

• an eevee evo

starters are fakemon

[noble saffron]

I started playin pokerogue, this game is insane

I'm addicted now but it's hard

[leaden hazel]

Dayum

[uneven reef]

Aight cool

[full marsh]

So a friend of mine gave me an interesting idea. A Team Sky playthrough in Yu-Gi-Oh! PokeDuels

[raw quest]

interesting

[full marsh]

It's a fun game I'll admit.

[raw quest]

team sky stuff is always fun

[full marsh]

Yeah, been a fan since MandJTV first did it in emerald.

[upper glen]

GO TEAM SKY!!!!

Tho my inner Water Type trainer screams for Team Aqua

[devout crag]

I DID IT I BEATED MOXIE

[leaden hazel]

Hail yeah

[devout crag]

what an hard carrier gliscor

well huh

[simple quartz]

Is that shiny Klawf

[devout crag]

yeah

i was just looking for gible

also how did i got this

[sweet crypt]

Holy shit it's John Badegg

[devout crag]

brochacho didnt expect this

[full marsh]

After I finish it with PokeDuels I might do it with Pokemon Evolved next.

[vital flare]

Is pokerogue slow or is it my pc?

[verbal ember]

slow as in gamespeed or laggy ?

you can change gamespeed in the options

[vital flare]

Laggy I think

[verbal ember]

should be your pc then, never had any lag even with 5* speed

[devout crag]

intense fight

water type gym they said

[robust zenith]

Anyone wanna play a randomizer

On any game

[noble saffron]

first legendary on pokerogue

from an egg

[elder island]

Totally normal
Totally

[noble saffron]

idk how rare that is but I'm happy with it

Or is that a psuedo-legendary

[elder island]

Legendary

Like the others regi

[elder island]

1/256

[noble saffron]

oh nice

I pulled about 61 eggs to get that

I'm addicted to this game now bruh, I got my first run past round 100 thanks to a honedge egg with Bitter Blade

And a Veluza egg

[coarse estuary]

now that i found a genlocke google sheets tracker it will be much easier for people to see my winning teams for each leg

[noble saffron]

my first shiny legendary lmao

[elder island]

Not a Mithical Pokemon?

And is shiny

[noble saffron]

My final moments in my best run

It was good while it lasted bro

If only I healed this exca/golem to full b4 the fight so he could not get one shot, because sturdy. then I would have won

[sweet crypt]

That is incorrect

Regidrago may be a legendary, but it is hatched from an epic egg

So it should be 7/256 to get the egg, then divided by however many Pokemon can be hatched from it

[hybrid dirge]

Whenever i use polartic during the rustboro fight with may the game ends up going back to the main screen

[coarse estuary]

leg 1 of my ng+ genlocke done

[pine ingot]

I found this shiny pokemon monday

[warm rose]

❤️❤️❤️

[simple quartz]

Feel like this is the most appropriate place to talk about this

It's kinda baller that while in the game proper your male protag (Florian) is just a kid in a school the manga decided the best way to adapt him is to turn him into a racing fiend obsessed with being the fastest around

Also this artwork exudes a lot of aura

[full marsh]

He goes by Violet in the manga.

[verbal ember]

regis are all in the epic tier eggs (~2.5% chance), except for regigigas in legendary tier (~0.5%)

[noble saffron]

I got pretty lucky to get that regidrago. It is strong

Egg move: take heart? I think it's called

It gives sp. Atk and sp. Def, absolutely goated with twister

[verbal ember]

pretty sure it also cure statuses

[noble saffron]

Niice

Is endless unlocked after beating classic

[verbal ember]

yes you need to beat it once

[noble saffron]

Cool

Nice pfp by the way

[verbal ember]

no u

how far did u go during your best run ?

[noble saffron]

round 165

I died to that kyogre in the screenshot lmao

My exca was my final hope, about to use earthquake to kill that final mon in his party

But I wasn't healed, so no sturdy

[noble saffron]

this I mean

[verbal ember]

rip

kyogre is my favorite haha

still farming candy for the red shiny

[noble saffron]

Good luck, and dang nice shiny

I just wanna beat classic so I can unlock endless lol

[noble saffron]

this is epic

earth power egg move

[verbal ember]

Yeah egg moves are really game changing on some mons

[unkempt egret]

yea rogue's egg moves are complete nonsense most of the time, usually for the mon's benefit

[noble saffron]

I really love em

these egg moves carry me, lowkey

[sweet crypt]

The craziest fucking shit to me is that Pokerogue players complain whenever shit gets nerfed

Even if it is justified

"Oh no, my Kyogre doesn't have Electro Shot anymore!" "Oh dear, what the fuck am I supposed to do without Double Iron Bash Scizor!"

Like bro

Not only are they still perfectly viable

But like

It's actually GOOD if you can't literally just beat the entire game with 1 Pokemon

You still can though lmfao

Tapu Fini, Eternatus, Dialga, Lugia and Miraidon are a few that I am 100% sure could beat the game solo 100% of the time

Assuming you have their unlocks

Out of these, Eternatus is the safest in a true solo run, for example in a speedrun, but ofc since Tapu Fini is a 5 cost it is the safest overall

Palkia should be a consistent win too but I don't have all egg moves on it

Dialga, Lugia and Palkia have the combo of Calm Mind + Recovery Move while being bulky (especially Lugia) and strong (except Lugia) at base due to being box art legendaries, Eternatus has the same but with Nasty Plot and absurd bulk even compared to the box arts (especially as Eternamax Eternatus), Miraidon's just fucking broken and Tapu Fini has Quiver Dance + Recover while being bulky

As long as you save Tera on Fini, it always beats Eternatus

Miraidon is a bit scarier without Calm Mind as a TM, but with Calm Mind it also solos with Tera

I'd imagine same applies to Palkia but once again I havent used it

Lugia, Dialga and Eternatus all do not need Tera to 1v1 Eternatus

Basically, if a Pokemon that can solo up to Eternatus has Calm Mind, there's a good chance it solos the full game

Tapu Fini is scary if your rival gets a hard hitting physical Grass starter

And Miraidon is scary on Eternatus if you didnt get Calm Mind, especially since it lacks recovery outside of berries or leftovers

I've seen people recommend against using Leftovers against Eternatus but it does not matter if you just 2HKO phase 2

And at worst like if it gets too many SpD boosts, you also have a lot of SpD boosts so it can't really retaliate

I have not failed a run at Eternatus while using a Calm Mind user

Or QD

Or Take Heart

The reason why other Quiver Dancers cannot really full game solo as consistently is mostly because of Rayquaza

Since the AI sees Rayquaza's type as a major advantage against them due to them being Bug or Grass types, the rival usually swaps it into them instantly

So you can't stack up 6 Quiver Dance boosts

I guess the same wouldnt apply to Frosmoth but like

It's a Frosmoth

And it starts

AS A SNOM

I havent tried Iron Moth though, that could work pretty well

But I also havent tried it because I literally do not have Quiver Dance on it yet

Since it's an egg move

Rayquaza would still be seen as advantageous on it though so you need to hope for a lower power special Water starter (something like Blastoise) or a Ground type if you have the Levitate passive (Garchomp for example)

You can also scare Rayquaza out with Tera Ice or something

But that isn't consistent

Since you won't always be able to get it

And if their Ice counter is a strong physical attacker you're cooked

Also, as another note, even at +6 something like Volcarona fails to OHKO even with Dazzling Gleam

So you'd probably need a super effective tera type

And if you dont have an SE move of that same type, Tera Blast

Because if Volcarona can't OHKO at +6 with coverage, nothing else will be able to

Though if you have a priority user in the back, Rayquaza will probably be left at 1 bar

So you can just bring that one out

Also, you probably could OHKO with good item luck

Ok I'm checking the balance documents rn to see who gets qd as egg move

Jynx gets QD and wouldn't lure Rayquaza in

But the issue is Jynx is extremely frail, especially physically

So I'm unsure if it can solo the game as a result

Sunflora, yeah no lmao

Grass type

Weak one, even

Celebi is Grass type, so it probably couldn't either

But apart from Rayquaza it should be able to solo the game

Ludicolo shouldn't be able to either

Definitely not Illumise

Roserade is another Grass type

Castform is a Castform

Lumineon could solo if Rayquaza uses a special move

But only if it uses a special move

As it gets one tapped by a physical one and can't one tap Rayquaza

Same applies to any non SE STAB Quiver Dancer

Shaymin is ANOTHER grass type

Somehow the majority of Quiver Dancers are still Bug or Grass type

That's wild

Maractus

Ooh, Swanna could probably get to Rayquaza and roll for the Hurricane

Galvantula's secondary type may lure out something apart from Rayquaza but don't get your hopes up

Especially since it has a grand total of 0 moves that hit MRay for neutral

Forget SE

Oricorio also may be able to get to the special move roll

Nihilego too

Eternal Flower Floette should be able to straight up sweep

And if you get a tera type that isn't weak to Eternatus, it should 1v1 that too

I'll need to test that when I get Quiver Dance on it

[verbal ember]

How many words was that

Most box art Legendaries CAN solo the game given enough stat boosting items and/or good rng

And others that get access to stat boosting and a decent bst could also but it gets harder and harder according to the set up needed for the boost

[sweet crypt]

Yeah but having enough stat boosting items is too much to assume

So I only covered the ones that require minimal luck during runs

Like literally, even base Eternatus solos the game if you use Tera Poison on 200

No matter what RNG does to Eternatus, it consistently wins

And if you get Eternamax, you could probably misclick 10 times in a row and still win

If Eternatus wasn't the literal last Pokemon you get I would be crying for a nerf on it

You don't even need egg moves for it

[verbal ember]

I mean I dont think it really matters that a few mons can win solo easily, especially if they are difficult to get, at the end of the day it's like other pokemon games, you make it as hard as you want for yourself

[sweet crypt]

Unless you want to solo even with base Eternatus

In that case you probably need Nasty Plot?

But apart from that

Like I literally just attempted a casual speedrun and got a time that would get me into 3rd place if I was recording it

With Eternatus

[sweet crypt]

Ngl the fact that Lugia is unironically one of the best Classic carries feels wrong

Like usually it's one of the worst box arts

Really only Zamazenta Hero of Many Battles is worse

And base Kyurem too

You also could argue Solgaleo or Reshiram ig

But for the former, I'd argue the main reason it is so ass is because NDM exists

[coarse estuary]

now its time to get the champs into crystal and start leg 2 of the ng+ genlocke

[noble saffron]

first egg shiny 😄

[unkempt egret]

when the snakes are cards #18 and #20 in order but you still wanna nuke

in theory that could have been 1000 damage if that was celebi and you had Oops All 6's from Balatro

[verbal ember]

noice

[verbal ember]

celebi serperior is so satisfying for big numbers and gambling

regirock thunderus

[coarse estuary]

ok poll for yall do i do a mario and luigi rpg marathon where i play all the mario and luigi games in order and playing remakes where i can (even though bis og is better love br jrs journey) or leg 2 of my ng+ genlocke

[unkempt egret]

both sounds good, I'd almost advise doing M&L when you're feeling burnt out on the genlocke

I was thinking of doing that but I already played brothership earlier in the year so it'd feel odd to play it again so quickly

(probably gonna be playing Partners at the end of the year either way since it's turning 20 in the fall)

[coarse estuary]

im not really getting a burn out from the genlocke i just really wanna do both but cant decide which i wanna do more

[noble saffron]

lets gooooo

[verbal ember]

damn congrats nincada is like the single best pokemon in the entire game for endless (never tried in classic)

[noble saffron]

Fr? dang

What makes it good?

[verbal ember]

when it evolves it stays as it is and it creates a copy of himself evolved

meaning you can duplicate the items he has

when he evolves

you can also fuse it with a pokemon and then evolve it basically giving you a double of your pokemon

[verbal ember]

this is why I have two kyogre in this pic

[noble saffron]

Wow that is lucky

Also I lost that run like a true dumbass, it's always naive mistakes that could have been avoided bruh

[unkempt egret]

heckin

restarted pokemon scarlet to set up another alt on the switch 2

found a shiny lechonk in south area 1 before the tera pawmi fight

[rustic surge]

Where is that from?

[verbal ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokerogue/s/Y5xK3nGiY5
⬇️
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pdrC98Ar_x2UgrX2kusFO3cb-PUESdrVf9ZvkGlwzvA/edit?usp=drivesdk
⬇️
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m92waZpW6fwrB3t3XuvDOF5jwjoNCRpYb2BwkfdAq2E/edit?usp=sharing

Tbf it's more of a "support / utility mons" rather thn a carry pokemon tierlist

[noble saffron]

ayoooo

first time getting the red tier shiny

[unkempt egret]

nice

[noble saffron]

thanks, im lucky and caught it

[coarse estuary]

ok because i wanna do oras for gen 3 ima use the hgss save i hunted my shiny starter for as the 2nd leg of the ng+ genlocke

[sweet crypt]

Fusing is a lot less reliable in Classic with only 200 waves for a Master tier item, so usually I don't view stats that involve fusion as good

That said, if you get a good Tera Type with Shedinja, it should be able to solo Eternatus

Tera Ground should be a base Tera

And that should work for it

The same can't apply to the other bosses though, since they all have some way around it

Whether it's plain coverage, Mold Breaker, moves that ignore abilities or whatever else

Covering for 6 Pokemon instead of 1 is far too difficult

[shell oak]

I have arrived to present;
1,000 unique shinies

And about 360 or so to go

[leaden hazel]

I wonder what could it be....

[iron cape]

I don't know maybe a magikarp... Or a Joltik.... Oh noooo I know it's a......................Plane ? Or just a plate of pasta

Or maybe Delphox

[verbal ember]

damn congrats

[verbal ember]

floor 122 too

getting close to the end

[noble saffron]

I won that run

But it's because I started to refresh the browser every single time I lost

I got tired of the bs LOL. I won't do it again tho, only for that first desperate win

The trainers with ice/fairy were my demise, so I refreshed until I got the strat down.

[static trail]

I literally could cry now. My first Galarian Zapdos that i found and its Shiny. Over 30 minutes took it to catch that s o b. 10 Balls left...

[noble saffron]

niice

[vital flare]

Oooh that umbreon

[noble saffron]

it came in clutch

Just unlocked it's passive too, so now I have a shiny Pickup eevee

[vital flare]

Pickup eevees useful and nice expeselly when pasives carryed even after evolving

[unkempt egret]

late but XXL shiny zap too that's really rare dang

[noble saffron]

yeah I'm super happy with it

[dapper gull]

My friend Mika wants to get into the Pokemon series, but she said all the remakes and different versions make her feel overwhelmed and she's only interested in playing the original pixellated ones for now. She's a big JRPG fan and she just feels like she 'owes it to herself to play them'

I thought long and hard about what to recommend and this is what I wrote

• Pokemon FireRed / LeafGreen
  Very faithful GBA remake of gen 1.
  Came out during gen 3. New types and evolutions added by gen 2 and 3 are mostly locked until postgame without modding (I always mod it tho), which means the experience is overall still faithful, it's just a more polished experience than the original Red/Blue/Yellow which has aged pretty poorly.

• Pokemon HeartGold / SoulSilver
  Embellished remake of gen 2, which is a sequel to gen 1.
  Came out during gen 4. Considered by a lot of people to be the best Pokemon game in existence, its in contest with the gen 5 games.
  The OG Gen 2 is my fave Pokemon game for nostalgic reasons, and this remake is the best treatment we could have gotten. Going from FR/LG into HG/SS works VERY nicely. You get to play with all the new mechanics added from gens 2-4 without anything locked off, making it truly feel like a sequel experience as it should, where you get to dabble in a more complicated and diverse Pokemon game. Gen 2 famously features the entire region from the first game after you complete its unique game region.

• Pokemon Emerald
  The "special edition" for gen 3.
  You'll unfortunately lose access to some species and the Physical/Special Split mechanic from HG/SS by going back a generation, but I have to advise doing so, because the remake of generation 3, while mind-blowing and amazing, is VERY different.
  The remake strongly embellishes the content and reimagines it in a lot of cases. It also contains mechanics from gen 6 such as mega evolution and the Fairy Type, which is jarring if you play the games in order. Emerald also has the best postgame for sweaty battle tryhards, and this postgame was cut from the remake.

• Pokemon Platinum
  The "special edition" for gen 4.
  Gen 4 is controversial-- a lot of people have nostalgia for it, particularly Diamond and Pearl, but the games objectively have a lot of major design flaws like pokemon availability (only 2 Fire Types before postgame). Gen 4 got an extremely faithful outsourced remake on the switch called Brilliant Diamond / Shining Pearl, but they were remakes of the originals without any additional content from Platinum or otherwise.
  Platinum alleviated many design flaws in gen 4. Its considered the hardest mainline Pokemon game, and it definitely increased the difficulty from base gen 4. By the time you're here, I think you'll be fine with that.
  Platinum's 2D pixel art graphics are genuinely just more charming than the remake's 3D graphics.

Pokemon Black / White
Doesn't have a remake yet, and even if it gets one, just play the original.

• Pokemon Black 2 / White 2
  Direct sequels to B/W. The final 2D pixellated games.
  Make sure you play the sequel to whichever one you played before.

ALSO CHECK OUT:

• Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire
  Isometric 3D, came out during gen 6.
  VERY embellished remake of gen 3.
  OR/AS changes the third generation a lot, expanding the storyline and breathing a lot of life into what the GBA struggled to properly imagine as a tropical region. It is a major step up from HG/SS which already contained hefty embellishments, this is the craziest they've ever gone with a remake.
  Includes a wild mechanic from gen 6 called Mega Evolution. Also includes gen 6's brand new Fairy Type.

[lost osprey]

@dapper gull i sent you that message so you dont need to retype

nvm you got it 😛

[dapper gull]

thank you!! ❤️

I was really torn on what to say for gen 3. I REALLY like OR/AS, its the version I'll play every time

but thinking about it from the perspective of someone like her

who wants to play these games as JRPGs in consecutive order

I think playing Emerald is better

OR/AS is just so jarring if you slot it between HG/SS and Platinum

but I did throw it on there at the end as a recommendation

I also almost suggested FR/LG -> Emerald -> HG/SS -> Platinum -> BW -> B2W2

In my head that makes sense, but again, she wants to play them in order and I respect that

so I think what I presented is the best advice she could've gotten

hopefully

i think the best case scenario would be if i could find her like an emerald rom hack made for people playing it after HG/SS, something that includes gen 4 evolutions and the physical/special split but nothing beyond that, but I think that's too niche to exist, id only be able to find hacks that include a kitchen sink of features like mega evolution, harder difficulty, fairy type and all 9 gens

she seems cool with this list though, she said "than you : D" i think its fine :p

[unkempt egret]

to add some stuff:
FrLg does have the sevii island near gym 7 but it's also optional if you wanna skip
HGSS does suffer from gen 4'a very slow engine and can drag in the midgame if you don't "lock in" a team before gym 4
Gen 3 is correct but can point out that prepping for said endgame can be tricky.
BDSP is even harder than plat but does add a few QoL stuffs like more mon options via the underground and a faster engine
you can move from white to black 2 and vice versa I think but it'll be a bit strange

[dapper gull]

ill let her know

[unkempt egret]

ORAS also throws Actual Nuke ||mega metagross|| at you in the final fight which emerald (and RS) omit

[dapper gull]

i do hope if she never plays gen 6 onward she at least tries ORAS

itd be a good last hurrah

[unkempt egret]

Emerald Seaglass might be up your boat there

the graphics are a bit odd but it is a great QoL update and the difficulty is pretty close to vanilla emerald

[dapper gull]

can i have some info? 👀

[unkempt egret]

I'm on mobile so I'll grab a pokecommunity link when I get home but

https://www.reddit.com/r/emeraldseaglass/comments/1jjhgay/emerald_seaglass_everything_you_need_to_know/

[dapper gull]

yeah no i cant it includes gen 8 pokemon

it is absolutely not what im looking for

[unkempt egret]

only two lines

[dapper gull]

but ill try to remember it exists for my own enjoyment

[unkempt egret]

it does also have gen 7 regionals though so fair

[dapper gull]

maybe one day i myself will play gen 1, gen 2, and then this hack

[unkempt egret]

I forget if any trainer uses either though

[dapper gull]

but i wouldnt tell someone playing the games for the first time to play this

this is def a step beyond what shed be comfy with

[unkempt egret]

makes sense

I'd probably say either FRLG or HGSS

[dapper gull]

hm?

[dapper gull]

^ this is the list of games she'll play and the order she'll play them

[unkempt egret]

ah I thought you were wondering which one to go with that makes sense

that order should work great

[dapper gull]

lol yeah hopefully it all makes sense now

yeah i think it will work nicely, i think emerald is the only thing im worried about due to the loss of certain features after HGSS, but i DID play gold -> diamond -> emerald as a kid so

[unkempt egret]

right yea

you could offer Crystal as a possible option after FRLG but that would be the same problem in a different gen

[dapper gull]

yeah i think HGSS is def a must-include

usually if someone said "hey im gonna get into pokemon maybe but im only playing ONE game" id say "play hgss or b2w2"

so having it in here is definitely important

[willow raft]

fuck

i'm out of pokeballs

[cyan nimbus]

Rom name?

[willow raft]

its a fan game

pokemon infinity

i'm using a password that replaces the starters with digimon

my team so far

should i replace a poliwhirl with mudkip?

cause idk if i should

[brisk hedge]

You already have a ground type, so no

[brisk hedge]

Pokémon Rule #5:
Always carry Pokeballs

[delicate hollow]

There needs to be more GBA rom hacks that has the battle speed options added

[willow raft]

True but swampert is really good

[verbal ember]

congrats !

[verbal ember]

F5 really isnt that bad don't sweat it just refresh when you wanna do it there's no additionnal pride or shame to do it or not

[pallid pelican]

should i play alpha sapphire or soul silver

[warm rose]

Yippee

[whole hill]

Does Ryuji come from Digimon?

[willow raft]

Yes

He is a Metalgreymon

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-adventure-digimon-anime-gif-13228726193117080276

He’s a starter via a password

Or well

Koromon is

https://tenor.com/view/koromon-digimon-happy-gif-10261139

[whole hill]

What about a Digimon hack room?

[willow raft]

there’s multiple actually

For specifically digimon

[whole hill]

oh

[knotty granite]

finally!

[willow raft]

nice

[knotty granite]

i love my Yggdrasil

[empty mortar]

Is there any ROM where they mix Digimon and Pokémon in the same game?

[zenith tree]

I think Pokémon infinity kinda does

[sweet crypt]

Why does Vespiquen only have 1 e

Well, 2

But you get what I mean

It's not a character limit thing, Vespiquen is 9 letters as opposed to actual character limit issues like Feraligatr or Victreebel at 10 letters

Like what's the reasoning

[pine ingot]

Pokémon Ranger is peak

[willow raft]

There’s 93 digimon within Pokemon infinity

[hard plume]

Pokemon Rule #5.1:
Any ball can catch a Pokemon, so long as the RNG gods are being kind to you

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-laugh-laugh-harder-serious-gif-5915886200431528825

[hard plume]

no, for real, one time I caught a galarian zapdos with a quick ball long after the first turn

I had never seen grapploct t-pose before

crazy

[devout crag]

yall should i play pokemon platinum i never rlly finished it

bet

[silver gazelle]

This image is always a jumpscare cause wdym the mouth is all the way down there

[devout crag]

is he embracing the power of the sun

[hard plume]

nah he's t-posing to assert dominance

[devout crag]

whats his strength in t pose form

[hard plume]

max attack stats

[devout crag]

can he stand a chance against sleeping bidoof?

[tight granite]

Eyyy

And uhh eyy again

[devout crag]

two is better then 1 ig?

[devout crag]

tough match

[brisk hedge]

Nice to meet you, I’m your evil clone from the upside down dimension

[quasi dagger]

i think my game is broken

why does it know dragon pulse twice

[willow raft]

my green little mutant

his father was a blue metapod

[tropic hinge]

As someone who has caught Calyrex twice in a regular ball, I can confirm.

[shy crow]

Yo can someone trade with me on SV to get sloking? I need one for my scarlet dex

[tight granite]

its not an exclusive mon?

just catch one

[shy crow]

It’s a trade evo

But I got it already 👍

[tight granite]

ah i thought you meant slaking

[vital flare]

Trade evos are the worst

[signal crown]

nah the really specific ones for me are the worst though yeah trade evos are still not great

for me its feebass

the old method

[devout crag]

at least u can do it without friends

[signal crown]

yeah but most of the time i have friends online

[devout crag]

some dont

[signal crown]

you could use an alt but that is why i said For me

[devout crag]

fair

[tardy solstice]

@whole hill Any Pokemon that terrastalizes into the Stellar type retains its normal weaknesses and resists. For example, a Stellar Sylveon is still weak to poison and steel. But, because it's also terrastalized, it's weak to Stellar-type moves (Tera Blast and Tera Starstorm used by Tera-Stellar Pokemon)

[whole hill]

Oh, I see, it's simple then.

I thought it was something very complex

[tardy solstice]

Tera Blast and Tera Starstorm, when used by a Stellar Pokemon, are super effective against ALL Terastallized Pokemon

[whole hill]

Very strong

[tardy solstice]

But if they hit a non-Tera Pokemon, they hit for normal damage. The caveat is this: The first time you use each non-STAB move as a Stellar Pokemon, that moves deals x 1.2 damage. Your original STABS (Fairy in the case of the hypothetical Syleveon) still deal x2 damage the first time they're used.

You still apply weakness/resist as normal, so hitting a steel type with a fairy move while Stellar causes that first fairy move to deal normal dage (x2 for STAB, x0.5 for resist).

What makes Terapagos special is that it retains the x1.2 damage boost beyond the first time the move is used.

[dapper gull]

I hate increased difficulty in fanmade pokemon content and i think people who like it are kinda stupid im just gonna say it.

Like in pokemon liquid crystal, all the pokemon you battle are roughly scaled to where the game expects a player to be, meaning you have to tryhard or overgrind, and overgrinding is a pain because they implimented gen 5's horrible experience system

I'm sorry but I don't want my battles to just fucking take longer. I get no sense of accomplishment from this. My third time playing that rom hack all the way through, I used stereotypical competitive OP pokemon and I breezed through the game compared to previous times. And my criticism of that is that you can't actually use the guys you want or the game will punish you.
So many pokemon mods have this problem. I have to seek out casual ones cause I think their devs are smarter.

[unkempt egret]

a lot of ones also have what I call the Drayano Issue

where a lot of boss fights even in earlygame have full teams and midgame/endgame movesets which means the difficulty curve is backwards because the player gets more things like moves and EVs while the only thing left for he opponents to do is just raise their BST

(or actually add EVs in some cases)

I have a lot more respect for hacks that do generally stick to vanilla difficulty like IF, seaglass, and Mariomon than ones that try to be difficult for the sake of difficult (or at least make it optional like mariomon does)

whether it be through drayano's style or through ai-favoring-gimmick spam like Unbound or most RPG maker fangames

[sweet crypt]

Ok like this is a completely acceptable opinion and all

But I cannot respect you for it considering you called anyone who likes difficult hacks stupid

[terse girder]

I dont think people are stupid for liking difficulty hacks but I assume this is directed at people saying romhacks should only be difficult and not have vanilla/easier modes

Which is also an aggressive stance but more of a defensive response

[unkempt egret]

Latios (user) generally errs more on the aggressive-reactive side but yea, not knocking those that like even if I'm not a fan

[simple quartz]

It's a bit heated but highkey I agree with Aria

I wouldn't say difficulty hacks are stupid but also like

I truly don't find enjoyment in a Pokemon romhack/fangame that tells me some "actually this is a game where you HAVE to optimize, OPTIMIZE OR DIE" kinda shit

[unkempt egret]

or the ones that go so far that it basically turns into a puzzle game of figuring out what the devs wanted you to do

[simple quartz]

If you're gonna do that at least make me feel like I earn the difficulty for a reason (insane broken shit I can do, free access to everything to minmax, etc)

[unkempt egret]

...which now that I say it kinda makes me think of Pokestar but without rentals

that's be a neat idea for a hack, a series of pokestar films that showcase unique mechanic interactions

[simple quartz]

You're gonna make me play some difficult hacks but I still have to contend with basic grinding? No candies? I'm stuck with one ability and basic movelist while my opponents are 100% minmaxed AI who can read my move 5 steps ahead?

Hell no

[unkempt egret]

yea I do appreciate the games that do give you those tools like seaglass or vanilla gens 8/9

[simple quartz]

Like Elite Redux is pretty tough to play but also like

Goddamn can I just have like broken ass mons on the go

So I get why it's a difficult/gameplay focused hack

[unkempt egret]

I dunno why but that wording is great

[dapper gull]

Yeah this is more how I feel

I'm honestly so glad some ppl agreed with me here 😭 sorry I said it so defensively

[noble saffron]

been grinding aron eggs for this , finally got my shiny

hidden ability too which is cool

[verbal ember]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-so-shiny-can-i-has-can-i-has-it-gif-25668696

[quasi dagger]

anyone know any good rom hacks for the unova games?

[broken crater]

No

Now I contributed

[quasi dagger]

i appreciate the input

[unkempt egret]

restarted the gamblelocke that's Eri done, probably the worst fight before Geeta?

I'll have to plan how the E4 goes but Geeta's probably gonna chomp a mon unless I have something with really good special defense

[limpid gate]

uh anyone here know if theres a discord for pokemon empyrean

[devout crag]

who do i choose (not quaxly)

i got fuecoco and called him sobek

[devout crag]

pluh

[verbal ember]

fuecoco 100% correct

[devout crag]

yeah

emulator decided to make me go 10 fps tho💔

[verbal ember]

SV has always been laggy

[devout crag]

i had a 60fps hack

until i reached the cave game was 60fps

then it just dropped to 10

[verbal ember]

yeah I have around 40 in open world areas

ik they made some fixes for the switch 2 but idk when/if we'll get that for emulators

[devout crag]

ima just got play leggend arceus

hoping the textures dont break

so for the starter i chose oshawot and named him lancelott

THIS is part of cynthia's family💔?

[tight granite]

The goat

[devout crag]

fair but why dressed like that💔

[willow raft]

i think my team is pretty dope

[full marsh]

Pokémon Infinity?

[willow raft]

ye

idk how to evolve haunter yet

[full marsh]

Watched a playthrough of it yesterday by Zwiggo

[willow raft]

Nice

Did he get any of the digimon?

Or no

[peak kite]

I need Jeff to eliminate this

Caught it in a store and it's ticked off

[brisk hedge]

As much as I don’t like Qwilfish, that is a pretty good shiny

[balmy nimbus]

Why does Voltorb flip have to be so awful in HGSS

[unkempt egret]

because european gambling laws?

[noble saffron]

Imo it is better than the slots

You can win using your brain instead of mind-numbingly sit there gambling

[vital flare]

Also voltorb flip doesn't actually cost you anything (outside maybe sanity)

[unkempt egret]

I mean neither is better than just buying the coins outright without bothering with a minigame which is what most people wanted lol

[balmy nimbus]

It costs me more time than spamming slots

[unkempt egret]

then again Johto in general is not a kind region for money grinding in contrast to FRLG Kanto and Sinnoh (and hoenn to a lesser extent) so probably for the best

[balmy nimbus]

Yeah... I just wanted double team for my Shuckle and it took me close to an hour since its still chance based at the higher levels and I'd often lose around level 4

[devout crag]

bro is NOT tuff

[unkempt egret]

I like how my plans for the E4 involve a munchlax one-shotting an altaria with ice punch at one point

in my defense for relying on a specific move when I have 1-3 chances on a 1/4 chance to pull any move, its strongest move is dragon pulse at like... 13% damage rofl

[unkempt egret]

there we go planned, lorde my geeta team is so scuffed

||H-Zorua/Oricorio-Fire/Basculegion-F/Medicham/Hariyama/Pelipper||

I can evolve that first one but I just like zorua better and it thankfully still does what zoroark can but with a bit more risk

(a bit because if I don't pull reds two turns in a row I die lol)

oddly enough the avalugg was the trickiest part of teambuilding until I realized I did have a reasonably bulky special attacker for it with pelipper

[willow raft]

anybody who plays pokemon infinity want my mystery gift?

[vital bramble]

I been thinking about types you could make rock paper scissors trios outta besides fire water grass
I know there's rock fighting flying, ground poison grass, and fire rock steel, am I missing any

[willow raft]

rock ice ground

[simple oxide]

Random urge to play Crystal Clear again struck

103 resets

[noble saffron]

Epicc

[quasi dagger]

psychic fighting dark, ground electric water, rock flying fighting and so many more

[vital bramble]

see I feel like immunities kinda break the spirit but close enough

rock flying fighting was the first I said tho

[quasi dagger]

oh i can’t read

[vital bramble]

rock ice ground is real and kinda goess hard actually

well.. hmm. I guess ice doesn't resist ground but

[quasi dagger]

there’s a lot less if you don’t use immunities

[vital bramble]

yeah the thing I'm thinking is each is super to and resists its counterpart

[quasi dagger]

rock bug grass

[vital bramble]

grass don't resist rock

[quasi dagger]

damn

[unkempt egret]

imo if you were making like a hack of sorts I could 100% see making ice resist ground

oh I was up a bit

[vital bramble]

ice really could use some help lol

[unkempt egret]

but yea having an NPC explain it in the earlygame would be a good enough idea for that

[vital bramble]

granted the real help it needs is more fast frail attackers

[unkempt egret]

hisuian weavile sneasler robbed of its second ice type

I dunno if ice/poison or ice/fighting would feel better, but I pick the former since that's a type combo we haven't seen yet

but the latter would probably be better from an offensive standpoint

[vital bramble]

ice fighting is some of the best offense in the game

9 supereffectives

[noble saffron]

I just had a cool idea

What if there was an idle pokemon fan game

An incremental/idle poke game with all mons and such

With automatic battles

[simple oxide]

you mean pokeclicker?

[noble saffron]

I'll check it out

Haven't heard of that til now

Okay this is neat! Although I'm thinking one where you can catch/build teams and have them to all the work

maybe this one has that idk. I'll play it thru

[noble saffron]

Ty for telling me this, this is what I was lookin for

[sacred venture]

i have a need to go back and play pokemon black and white

[quasi dagger]

black and white are some of the best games in the series

[unkempt egret]

sounds like a good idea

unlike me who's starting a mono-normal run of gen 8

||and realized too late that I'm gonna be feeding that gengar free special attack boosts in gym 4||

[sacred venture]

its so pretty, truly one of the most underappreciated gems

[simple quartz]

I wouldn't call it underappreciated anymore

It very much is appropriately appreciated now

[noble saffron]

true, you can tell by the tremendous price

[celest light]

So does anyone think either incinaroar or amoongus will get there third world champ this year

Thunderous has a small chance to

[celest light]

My official dumbest team

this is a test to see if the teams even gonna be useable at all

[delicate hollow]

Sylveon is in Legends Arceus?
I suppose that makes sense as it's a Fairy type plus we do have mons of "newer" regions in Hisui with new forms

[pallid shore]

Hi does anyone know if shiny odds are increased in Sacred Gold/Storm Silver?

[simple oxide]

150 chain

[willow raft]

would it be a good idea to jogress my Wargreymon and metalgarurumon into omnimon or should i use my backups instead?

because if i use my mains then they are gone but i get a powerful legendary

or i can keep my mains and have a legend that might not be as powerful

their stats would be pretty nice to fuse

my team is pretty good imo

[quasi dagger]

assault vest protect on weezing?

[sweet crypt]

Chat, give me your most stupid headcanons on Legendary/Mythical Pokemon

[brisk hedge]

Every Pokémon is a Legendary Pokémon, because they all meet the criteria for being legendary Pokémon

[unkempt egret]

Meltan/melmetal and to an extent Heatran aren't mythical they're just really strong regular pokemon

...not dumb but something I will be fighting for

actual dumb headcanon uuuh, Pecharunt's mochi probably tastes really spicy and sour to kind of serve as a reverse to the Pecha berry it's named after

[simple oxide]

...random perfect iv.

why