other-pokemon-games

[vernal compass]

its rough getting into this hobby in 2025 😭

[sweet crypt]

Almost got game ended

Now you may be thinking

"LegDrag, why are you happy that you got ice cave cycle instead of underwater cycle when your main carry is Gabite?"

Well, Gabite doesn't like ice types

But it also doesn't like rain boosted swift swim Barraskewda

If rival didn't have Serperior my severely underleveled team would signify my doom

This is exactly why Arena Trap is so great

If it wasn't for it my rival would've swapped to something with an actual attack/SpA stat and folded me

I could really use a map right about now

Also fighting Team Plasma

So I will have to deal with shit like Snow Warning Kyurem

And one of the admins is Mono Ice

Nice, I got Colress instead

Free wins

Caught a random ass wild Kartana for the candy and it was Jolly Nature I take everything back this run is blessed

[sweet crypt]

Map at 112 💀

[willow breach]

Should I open it, or should I keep it sealed?!! 🎵🎵🎵🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[mighty robin]

it might have more value if you open it
give me a minute while i gather my thoughts to explain, i'm also not a pokemon card collector

then again, why would it matter

point is, an unopened card pack would be worth insert amount of money

but then the rarest card in that pack, it'll probably be worth more than an unopened pack

[kind nexus]

always open it because they are playing cards for fun, not investments

[coarse estuary]

it is indeed possible to see all pokemon in plat without a hacked console cheats or other people

[coarse estuary]

this 100% pokemon cards are a game not something an old man in their 40s just has to be like look at what i got and you dont. if you want it pay 200 minimum

[blazing laurel]

Anybody that plays TCGP got a spare Celebi EX they would trade me?

[sweet crypt]

Alright, so Mono Fighting is looking a bit rough

Just beat Mono Ground btw

The main reason I say Mono Fighting looks rough is because there is no reliable solution for Eternatus here

The closest to that is probably something like (Mega) Gallade

Since it does have 115 SpD and SE STAB

But it also has low base HP

So it can't take hits from Eternatus well at all

If I get a Master Ball drop though Eternatus isn't a concern

Though, Mega Rayquaza still is

I think the best I can do for it is pray that the rival rolls Kilowattrel or Talonflame

And that they swap into them instead of Rayquaza

Allowing me to attempt to set up more with Mega Lucario

I'd much rather take an SE hit from Talonflame than a neutral hit from Mega Ray

Much less a SE V-Create

[last egret]

Unpopular opinion:
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky is underrated

It got horrible reviews but I’m in the minority of people who thought the game was genuinely great

[kind nexus]

how do you get that implication

[unkempt egret]

I thought that was a pretty room temperature take

[kind nexus]

i have never met someone who played it and didnt love that game

[unkempt egret]

understandable to have but it'd happily pick the take up without wearing gloves on

[last egret]

Most reviewers didn’t like it

[unkempt egret]

it's one of those games yea

[last egret]

The common consensus is that it’s not good. I’m one of the few people who disagrees with the masses

[unkempt egret]

where critics hate it and fans love it

I guess the switch games in general would be the opposite? (critics loved fans split-leaning-negative in the west)

[kind nexus]

reading the critic reviews, it seems like they were expecting something to be exceptionally different

from red and blue?

[delicate hollow]

Wishlist for new Pokemon games in the near future:
An original new Mystery Dungeon game as we only got the GBA remake exclusive for the Switch
We hadn't got a battle arena/stadium/tournament based game yet so can we ask for a new entry please?
I can't think of more possible spin offs so I'll leave it up to everyone as I'm outta here

[last egret]

I get mystery dungeon as a concept is not for everyone but my hot take is the story was excellent

[unkempt egret]

Just finished up red a few days ago actually

[kind nexus]

reviewers dont speak for the majority

they speak for themselves

[unkempt egret]

"finished" in airquotes since good lorde that looks like a lot of postgame content

[kind nexus]

they have jobs bc they have opinions

not bc they have popular takes

[last egret]

Also this will get a lot of backlash but I’m willing to go as far as to say Explorers of Sky is the best spinoff Pokémon game ever

If not one of the best

[kind nexus]

conquest is close to my heart and i think i like red rescue team more than eos

but it's up there

[last egret]

Reviewers look at a game objectively.

[kind nexus]

thats just not true haha

the whole point of being a critic is having an interesting subjective opinion

[last egret]

When was the last time a bad/mediocre game got good reviews and Vice versa

[kind nexus]

they cant have any opinion about a game without getting into the realm of bias and subjectivity

[kind nexus]

idk why that is important

i think it happens pretty often but that's because bad/mediocre is subjective in and of itself

[last egret]

Ok I can agree if it’s just one single reviewer you can take it with a grain a salt…BUT if it’s the majority of reviewers that came to the same conclusion, that holds more weight

[kind nexus]

it holds more weight but it ultimately only gives you a hint at what people think of the game

it could be your favorite game and have consistently negative reviews

[last egret]

This isn’t just one reviewer that didn’t like the game, this is most major review sources

[kind nexus]

a la eos

[last egret]

That’s why I said it’s an unpopular opinion to think EoS is good. Because most people don’t like it

I personally like it but the majority don’t

[kind nexus]

i see why you would think that but the majority of critics =/= the majority of players of eos

[last egret]

What’s the difference between a critic review and your everyday player review

[kind nexus]

that critics play many different games and are most certainly biased

as the everyday players are

but the critics are paid for their opinions

and are paid to play and review a variety of games that dont necessarily fit their taste

a good game, in my opinion, (i think you'd agree) is not necessarily one that is well-received by a wide audience, but one that has artistic merit and engaging gameplay

critics do not review the goodness of games they review their opinion of them

in a scale of merit that is meant to mimic measurable statistics but really is just done based off feeling

[waxen grail]

Random thought but Terapagos and the paradox mons proves that Eternalism exists in the pokemon world, huh....

[supple basalt]

Legends have always been immortal

Haven't they?

Immortal in the fact not dying from old age

[waxen grail]

Eternalism isn't a state of being. Its a philosophy of time

[supple basalt]

Oh

[last egret]

The Critics say they give every game a fair chance when they review and try to be as objective as possible

[supple basalt]

It's gotta take a lot of work to not be biased when reviewing a pokemon game

[kind nexus]

you cant take bias out of a human opinion

lol

you cant take bias out of any human action frankly

[supple basalt]

Truth

[waxen grail]

Game critics and access media has been unreliable for over a decade

[last egret]

I mean by that logic reviews shouldn’t exist cuz they have no merit

[kind nexus]

their merit is that they have interesting opinions

thats what the point of reviewers is

not to tell you what is good and not good but to tell you what they think of it so you can get an idea based on how your general tastes compare to the reviewer's

[last egret]

That’s why it’s better to take a multitude of reviews from many sources. If most of them say it’s not that good…maybe that should have weight on the general consensus

[waxen grail]

These days they tell you how close to room temp their IQ is :>

[kind nexus]

lol

[last egret]

If a single reviewer says “I don’t like this game” then you can dismiss it as a one off anomaly.

If 9 out of 10 reviewers all from different places say they don’t like it, maybe that might mean something

[supple basalt]

I don't even watch or read reviews anymore lol cause for some reason my mind go "if they no like it I will be judged for liking it"

[kind nexus]

sure

it means that most reviewers dont like it

reviewers dont speak for people they speak for their job

[supple basalt]

Yeah just look at Nostalgia Critic

Best example I could think of lol

[last egret]

Why are the critic scores always the one showcased as the most important then in most review sites and aggregates

If they don’t have any merit

[kind nexus]

because they pay or are paid by the critics most likely

and i didnt say they have no merit

i told you the merit in reviewers' opinions

they just dont speak for the entire audience

is my whole take

[last egret]

Look most people didn’t like EoS. I’m one of the few who enjoyed it

That’s all I’m saying

[kind nexus]

and i am skeptical of that first part

i agree that eos was a very enjoyable game

[last egret]

I’m that one guy who is like “ya know EOS is good” and everyone will boo me for it

[kind nexus]

does that happen

[coarse estuary]

beat rorark but lost glaceon and roselia

[unique topaz]

Is it true that if want scarlet Pokémon I should buy violet?

[kind nexus]

what

no

[waxen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/psp1g-what-gif-23713811

[kind nexus]

why would that be the case

[unique topaz]

Because I think was the case for let’s go pikchu and let’s go evee

[coarse estuary]

thats like saying i want mario but im buying sonic

[unique topaz]

Okay

[waxen grail]

What does Let's Go have to do with this?

[unique topaz]

Idk just thought that how they did things

[kind nexus]

in any case, scarlet has the scarlet mons and violet has the violet ones

idk if they even have version exclusives bar the area zero stuff

i didnt notice

[coarse estuary]

they do

[waxen grail]

There are

[kind nexus]

is it like volbeat and illumise or oddish and bellsprout type stuff

[waxen grail]

https://www.serebii.net/scarletviolet/exclusives.shtml

[kind nexus]

ty

[supple basalt]

Once this game opened up to home I completed the dex so fast lol

[kind nexus]

more than i thought but ya most of them are returning mons

[coarse estuary]

though on the topic of weird version excusives its bw1 where if you want the white legend play black and if you want the black legend play white

[kind nexus]

and then it goes back to consistent in b2w2

[zenith tree]

Maybe its like how theres the dot in the yin yang

[kind nexus]

i was a silly kid and got white and b2 because i liked zekrom

[supple basalt]

I honestly think version exclusive pokemon are stupid and legends arceus proved that we can do without them

[kind nexus]

but the story was slightly inconsistent as a result

[coarse estuary]

i think thats because of how they wrote n where you got hte whatever one then in the sequal game n gave you the one that he got in bw1

[kind nexus]

it is

[supple basalt]

I was the opposite I loved Reshiram

[kind nexus]

but also black kyurem is such a cool design

i wish pokemon played with asymmetry more

[supple basalt]

I wonder what a new mystery dungeon game that is NOT a remake would be like on switch

[kind nexus]

reshiram has grown on me a lot since i was like 12

still partial to zekrom but theyre both rly cool

[coarse estuary]

reshiram is cool but i always play white so when i do the post game i can have zekrom learn flash as an hm user

[supple basalt]

G5 released so many un-nessecary legends/mythicals but I don't think any of them are nessecarily bad-

We don't talk about Virizon Wireless

Iron Leaves pretty cool tho

[kind nexus]

incredible

[kind nexus]

lool

they were riding the gen 4 hype

gen 4 has so many

[supple basalt]

Catches the games Legendary

Makes him an HM Slave

[kind nexus]

and if we're talking about unnecessary maybe we should talk about the shift to 3d

[supple basalt]

Speaking of though

[kind nexus]

:p

[supple basalt]

I am SO HAPPY they did away with needing HMs, even in the G4 remake

[kind nexus]

hms u mean?

yaya

i would have settled for the moves being usable in battle

[supple basalt]

G4 remakes are the worst remakes to date

[kind nexus]

well thats also bc they had their b team work on it while they did pla

and prob gave them no creative freedom

[supple basalt]

Yeah of all the HMs I think the useful ones are Surf, Waterfall, and Fly (if you don't have other flying coverage)

[kind nexus]

bc look who we're talking abt

lmao

[kind nexus]

ya exactly

it's so tragic

[waxen grail]

Volcanion worst mythical

[supple basalt]

Type-wise it's not bad

[kind nexus]

i like the idea

also it looks delicious

[supple basalt]

One of the things that makes me hate Volcanion is something extremely petty

[kind nexus]

i think my least favorite might be either genesect or marshadow

[waxen grail]

They wasted the awesome type on something so forgetful and unused

[kind nexus]

genesect because i think its design is kind of icky to me in an indescribable way

[supple basalt]

We lost Scald access to good water types because of it. G9 DLC was like "Let's give the angry fans this move back"

[zenith tree]

The modern mythicals arent as interesting

[kind nexus]

and marshadow because it just feels like it's trying too hard to be cool

[zenith tree]

They don't have really any ties to the story

[kind nexus]

yea

[waxen grail]

My first legit mythical was wishmaker jirachi in gen 3

[supple basalt]

Genesect is pretty mid as well as Silvally

[kind nexus]

i liked what they went for in gen 4

[waxen grail]

So I have a soft spot for jirachi

[kind nexus]

silvally isnt a mythical

bc u get it in game during normal gameplay

[waxen grail]

It's sad cuz they are making a lot of mythical obtained like that now

[kind nexus]

i am into it kind of

but like

idk

[supple basalt]

I have a soft spot for Victini for similar reasons

I was so happy to catch my lv 15 Victini and use it through the whole game

I love Victini's design

[kind nexus]

i like it in theory but in practice they just forget to release most of them and then we dont get them until the next gen

[waxen grail]

Omg yesss I loved that event

[kind nexus]

that victini event was so cool

i wish they did that more

[supple basalt]

It wasss

[waxen grail]

Wasn't that event day 1?

[supple basalt]

Same honestly. Most events nowadays require you to physically go somewhere

[kind nexus]

where it makes sense in the world and it isnt level 50 and disobedient

[kind nexus]

yea

[waxen grail]

I have a recollection of staying in the parking lot trying to get far enough to unlock mystery gift after buying Black xD

[supple basalt]

Pfft

[kind nexus]

im so fucking lazy please dont make me go anywhere

let me play pokemon for 40 hours straight

[waxen grail]

It was me, my then step bro and his friend

[supple basalt]

MOOD

My town doesn't even have a Gamestop anymore

[waxen grail]

I enjoyed going to gamestop for events cuz I needed an excuse to leave the house...I don't have many of those anymore. Full hikikomori at this point

[kind nexus]

same

[supple basalt]

I just hate when the best events require you to go to the pokemon center in japan

[kind nexus]

they went out of business when i was in hs

[supple basalt]

Oof

[kind nexus]

omg u unlocked a memory

i remember having my mom bring me and my brother to gamestop at midnight for the drop of oras

bc they had a special promo

to give it out right as the day started

and i was so hyped idt i slept at all

and then the game was kinda disappointing but oh well

it was pretty and i liked the eon flute and delta episode

and i could never not love hoenn

[kind nexus]

i've never been out of the country

finally got my passport recently but i am broke like most of my generation lmao

[tight granite]

glad i never was

[normal dirge]

Say what you will about pokemon emerald being great. I loved it too until the sky pillar section came up and ruined two of my longterm runs years apart from eachother, i hate those stupid floor cracks that show up when trying to get rayquaza again. I legit hate the timing of the bike puzzles

[vague anvil]

I GOT A SHINY MILTANK IN SUN

Wasn't even shiny hunting

[brisk hedge]

Proof?

[vague anvil]

I'll take a pic when I am able to get my 3ds charged

[cold osprey]

Hey I've got a question about the pokemon like online TCG app

Does anyone else play that around here?

[steep saffron]

I did last season

haven't played for like a week now 😂

[cold osprey]

Well, you know the shiny pack?

What would you consider the rarest card in the pack

[steep saffron]

lmao

[steep saffron]

maybe that's why ^

[steep saffron]

no idea

[cold osprey]

I was told that this isn't the rarest card but

It's the only crown card in the pack

[steep saffron]

Are we playing the same tcg? 😂

I don't see a shiny pack lmao

[brisk hedge]

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[coarse estuary]

you are on the tcg game the other person is on tcg pocket

[steep saffron]

No shiny pack for me 😭

[tight granite]

im not starting the shiny pack

i havent even finished any other pack yet

[vague anvil]

Y'all why does the TCG have to be very different from the games

[coarse estuary]

because its very hard to have a card game have the same machanics as a video game

[tropic hinge]

I know this was hours ago, but I want to throw a theory I have about Terapagos and the paradox mons.

Basically, they're not from the past/future at all, most of the dex entries for them state they resemble things from movies/comics/magazines/etc. I think it's to do with memory, instead of pulling these pokemon from the past/future, its creating them from the memories of what the research team thought were past and future. It's also what made the robo professor possible, due to somehow being able to imbue it with Sada/Turo's memories and personality.

[sweet crypt]

Based on ||The post game Crystal Pool cutscene with the real professor,|| it does seem like Terapagos' power directly fucks with time

[sweet crypt]

Also, average Fishy saying something that seems completely opposite to what is actually said

I think I have only heard people talking about how the Mystery Dungeon series contains the best Pokemon games of all time

[waxen grail]

ETERNALISM, BABY!

https://tenor.com/view/wild-card-charlie-day-iasip-always-sunny-it's-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-gif-8153267118722153656

[sweet crypt]

To be honest I get their point PMD is kinda fucking peak tbh

Though not comparable to the mainline games

Since their gameplay is vastly different

[waxen grail]

Mystery dungeon gameplay is very niche

But there's a reason they are still made to this day. Even if it's not with pokemon as the ip

[coarse estuary]

there is a reason i said what i said the week ago about fishy right before i got muted

[sweet crypt]

Tbf you are usually a bit more...

How do I put it...

Idk

Aggressive?

With your phrasing

[waxen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-you-what-huh-gif-19676334

[sweet crypt]

It ain't that serious it's just Pokemon

And weirdly outdated and/or inaccurate general perception of the public opinion

That said I've had pretty outdated perceptions of the public opinion before too so like

[vague anvil]

Wasn't the TCG made around when Red and Blue were available?

[waxen grail]

Halfway done with Mt. Battle...

[sweet crypt]

Is it me or is swiping a message to reply to it not currently working

[waxen grail]

Test

[sweet crypt]

Because it's starting to piss me off ngl

[waxen grail]

Works for me on mobile

[sweet crypt]

Well hopefully discord stops fucking with me tmr then

[waxen grail]

Maybe reload the app? Update available? Reboot phone?

[sweet crypt]

Anyways fun PMD experience

I was playing Rescue Team DX

And I was getting annoyed by none of the go to wikis having any accurate info on it

So I'm about to go fight Rayquaza right after beating the game

And midway through the dungeon, I check the wiki

And it's like

"Mega Rayquaza. Level 70"

"... That can't be right, right? Yeah, I'm sure it's just misinfo"

It was not misinfo

(I won because spammable SE screen nuke goes brrr)

[waxen grail]

o7

[sweet crypt]

If Rayquaza didn't make quite a few questionable decisions I'd have been cooked

[waxen grail]

To be fair who would think that a remake of a gen 3 mystery dungeon game would have a MEGA

[vague anvil]

It's working for me

[waxen grail]

I would be angry xD

[sweet crypt]

OK but it was very funny

So I wasn't mad

[vague anvil]

Btw

@sweet crypt get in

[sweet crypt]

Nuh uh

[vague anvil]

You can't stop a master ball

[sweet crypt]

OK but have you considered the following: Nuh uh

[vague anvil]

I'm gonna throw it

You will be getting in the master ball

[sweet crypt]

Bro is throwing with their nonexistent internet hands it's so "over"

[waxen grail]

master ball argument stopped being a thing when baby turtle appeared

[sweet crypt]

OK but in their defence Terapagos has a lot more of an impressive showing than Latios in the games

[vague anvil]

Also hold up do y'all remember when Ash said "Say goodbye to your last moments of freedom Pidgey"

In like the first episode of the anime

[sweet crypt]

One has 700 BST and can manipulate time and is the power for an entire regional gimmick

The other is a literal species

I mean Terapagos was a species tbf

Keyword on was

L bozo imagine being on the brink of extinction

[waxen grail]

after Legends and S/V I've come to think that if a mon really doesn't wanna be captured, especially one of legend, doesn't want to be captured, it WON'T, even with a master ball

sorry brain turned off halway thru

[vague anvil]

Isn't there like 7 Latios in existence?

[waxen grail]

more than that

[sweet crypt]

My headcanon is that most Pokemon can be caught by Master Balls, but the stronger legendaries can break free if they wanted to

[waxen grail]

entire flocks of them

[sweet crypt]

But the weaker legendaries wouldn't be capable of doing so

Quite a few legendaries are canonically just extremely rare and strong species

[vague anvil]

Yeah like you

[sweet crypt]

To the point that at times only one can be found in a region at a time

[vague anvil]

Is that colosseum?

[waxen grail]

Ye

[sweet crypt]

Anyways I will continue arguing that the term sublegendary is fucking stupid until the end of time

Because that implies that 90%+ of legendaries are not legendaries

Which then why the fuck are they called legendaries dipshit

[waxen grail]

btw xfering a mon from Gale of Darkness to Colo makes the caught location go wacky

[sweet crypt]

Gamefreak did not cook with that classification

[vague anvil]

Wish my laptop was not coming off its hinges so I could watch some lockstin and gnoggin

[sweet crypt]

I think sublegendaries as a term works

But not for the Pokemon that have been referred to as legendaries for who knows how long by now

For stuff like UBs and Paradoxes

Which I do believe they are currently being used for as well

'The prefix "sub-" generally means "under," "below," or "beneath," but it can also indicate "less than" or "secondary". It's derived from the Latin word "sub," which means "under".'

[vague anvil]

@sweet crypt I believe that the crystal turtle should not be considered a legendary at all cuz it basically is like a fossil pokemon

[sweet crypt]

This is what I'm yapping about btw

[sweet crypt]

My brother in christ it is powering the entire regional gimmick of a region

And a time machine

[vague anvil]

Ah

[waxen grail]

Maybe even greater than a time machine

[vague anvil]

Haven't played sv so I don't know a lot

[sweet crypt]

Terapagos is definitely a high tier legendary imo

[vague anvil]

From what I heard it might actually pull stuff from alternative timelines

[sweet crypt]

Tbh they cooked with all of the Gen 9 legendaries

[sweet crypt]

Well that's even more impressive anyways so it's fiiine

[vague anvil]

Also look at this

[sweet crypt]

It's only 4 levels below evo level it isn't that crazy

[vague anvil]

Tho how was able to evo

[sweet crypt]

Unlike a certain pseudo legendary

[waxen grail]

Counterpoint: the salamance

[vague anvil]

?

[sweet crypt]

cough cough Level 9 Salamence cough cough

[vague anvil]

W h a t

[vague anvil]

H o w

[sweet crypt]

In SMUSUM, there is a route where Bagon can be encountered at a 1% rate from levels 9 to like, 11 or 12

[waxen grail]

SOS bagon

[vague anvil]

Why does it not follow the evo levels

[sweet crypt]

And it can summon Salamence via SOS at the same level range, I believe also at 1%

[sweet crypt]

Gen 7 is silly like that

[waxen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-just-funny-to-my-lulz-lol-troll-gif-11977109

[vague anvil]

Also how come certain mons in the wild area are not evolved even though they are level 60

[sweet crypt]

You can actually get a level 41 Volcarona in the Ultra games with the same method

[waxen grail]

Unrelated but I have had the song "Frictionless Wipe" stuck in my head for hours at this point

[sweet crypt]

Which is a terrible idea to grind for

But something tells me that's exactly what I'm doing if I ever replay the Ultra games

Moth :)

[waxen grail]

Moff

[vague anvil]

Y'all one of the bots made up a new stone called the magnet stone

Check gen

[waxen grail]

Sounds like something in PoGo

[vague anvil]

That is not in Pokemon Go

[sweet crypt]

I feel like I've seen at least 3 Pokemon on Discord bots have an item called the Magnet stone

[vague anvil]

Only a magnetic lure

[waxen grail]

Close enough. Hilarious

[sweet crypt]

Let me guess, evolves Pokemon that usually evolve at magnetic areas

[vague anvil]

Yep

Also fun fact

I have gotten a lot of the pokemon I have in sword from pokemon go cuz it's a pain to get them otherwise

[waxen grail]

Too bad if you wanna do HOME tasks u need to xfer said mons with a galar mark for em to count

[sweet crypt]

This is why I'm never getting any HOME tasks done

[vague anvil]

Who said I am doing tasks

[waxen grail]

Home doesn't like that I have a living dex from RSE to USUM...

[sweet crypt]

I literally can't trade without breaking a law to get Nintendo Online I fucking hate eshop region exclusivity

[vague anvil]

Anyways back to watching yt

[waxen grail]

U can trade for free using home

[sweet crypt]

We need to kill Nintendo with hammers

[waxen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/northernlion-ok-ok-gif-11212841590796247226

[sweet crypt]

Yeah, fair enough I guess

[vague anvil]

Also I really wish I could get pokemon bank on my 3ds

[sweet crypt]

Though iirc it's specifically on Mobile Home

Which is uhh

Weird

[waxen grail]

Yep :<

I hate that both apps feel incomplete due to that

[sweet crypt]

But yeah, L:A saved my ass when I was going for 100% completion for the Gen 9 pokedexes

I think this may be the only time I've completed a Pokedex that wasn't in L:A

(After all, completing the dex is part of L:A's main story)

[waxen grail]

One day imma have to cave in and buy one of the sinnoh ports for ribbons..

W O G O R T

[last egret]

Actually no. The majority of critic reviews have EoS as not that good of a game

Majority of reviewers have the game around a 5/10

@sweet crypt if it was just a single review source, you could chalk it up to just a single bad reviewer, but what are the odds that most of the reviewers are bad?

The reviewers chalk it up to repetitive gameplay loop as well as not enough differences from Time/Darkness to justify buying the game again at full price

They also claim it takes way too long for the story to actually get going and most of the “job board missions” are all more or less the same. Like just going to a random dungeon to deliver an item or whatever, which the reviewers says can get stale very fast

Their verdict is that if you’re a big fan of both roguelikes and Pokémon, it’s worth a try, but if you already have explorers of time and darkness, you’re honestly not missing out on that much outside of a couple new dungeons, a cafe area and new starter choices

[sweet crypt]

Just like Lavender, I don't think I've trusted a review in a long, long time

They're interesting to look at

[last egret]

That’s the reviewer consensus

[sweet crypt]

I just tend to not agree with them and judging by what literally everyone else says I'm not the only one

[last egret]

Keep in mind I love explorers of Sky but that’s what a lot of the reviewers say about that game

To their credit I think they bring up some valid points

Do I agree with all of them, no. But they do have points

[sweet crypt]

If you're asking me to pick between what like 10 reviewers say and what like everyone else says

I'm gonna pick what everyone else says

[last egret]

Some of the reviewers did say the story was engaging but it takes too long for the plot to actually get going

and I kinda agree

In my personal experience the EoS story doesn’t feel like it’s really going anywhere significant until like the guild expedition

And that’s about 1/3 of the way through the story

@sweet crypt idk if it’s just me but Dusknoir being evil felt kinda predictable. Even when I was a kid I never fully trusted him

[karmic ivy]

Hey, I'm hoping someone can help me. I'm trying to play three fangames on the steam deck but they don't seem to respond to any kind of controller input. They're Pokemon Sunday, Realidea System, and SolarLight/LunarDark

And they don't have any unique controller maps

[warm rose]

!!

[last egret]

@sweet crypt here’s another unpopular opinion. The Pokémon ranger games are slept on lowkey

Like people love to hate on them but honestly they weren’t even bad

[sweet crypt]

Ok the first one I can actually see since I don't see it mentioned that much but whenever I hear anyone talk about it it's praise so I don't get the 2nd point

[last egret]

Also it’s one of the more forgotten titles

Pokémon Ranger is one of those “oh yeah I forgot that existed” type of spin-offs

Pokémon Mystery Dungeon was at least popular enough to get a remake

@sweet crypt my last unpopular opinion will piss off a lot of Gen 4 lovers.

Diamond and Pearl were very flawed games

They only got bailed out by platinum

[sweet crypt]

You've already said that

[last egret]

Every loves Diamond and Pearl as the best game of the series

[last egret]

People hate when I say it

[sweet crypt]

And not just me but others have also pointed out that this is outdated info

Sure, it used to be seen favourably

But it simply isn't anymore

Because Pokemon Platinum exists

[last egret]

Like to me there is not much of a reason to play Diamond and Pearl when Platinum exists

Like they feel like almost objectively worse games

[brisk hedge]

Pretty much everyone thinks Platinum is objectively better then DP

Also, Pokémon Ranger is the best Pokémon spin off and you can't change my mind

[graceful mirage]

no its pokken imo

I guess if you like drawing circles

[frosty bobcat]

What game is that

[warm rose]

pokerogue

[frosty bobcat]

that looks way different from what I remember

[plucky linden]

Warning the thing I’m about to post will be marked as spoiler. I try to avoid leaks for anything, but this go leak appeared on my for you page, and I thought I’d make a joke out of it.

||I’m so happy that the 2 best Pokemon in the main series games are going to be the best duo in Pokemon. Makes it more lore accurate 😊||

||For go||

[sweet crypt]

||SMH, they don't have doubled damage during max raid battles, 0/10||

[plucky linden]

||Oh yeah my bad we also need Calyrex to do idk, same thing but better -10/10||

[radiant leaf]

I’m still waiting for Yamper to come to go

[plucky linden]

All jokes aside||, I like soloing raids, so this is pretty cool to ||me.

[plucky linden]

Also want to see funny ball dog.

[radiant leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-yamper-pokemon-happy-sword-and-shield-pokemon-sword-and-shield-gif-24269258

The creature

[plucky linden]

The funny guy award in my heart that I want to see the most of all is Orthworm. He is to funny looking.

[sonic sky]

peak

[plucky linden]

This aged well, while some of it is still a spoiler, it’s on the go blog now. So if anyone wants to look at go fest this year be my guest. https://pokemongolive.com/en/gofest

[coarse estuary]

just found this old google doc i made for a nuzlocke idea called a trainerlocke. im considering revisiting it lol

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-request-elaboration-white-vision-paul-bettany-wandavision-i-want-an-explanation-gif-22928362

[waxen grail]

https://youtu.be/B75HFhFrZGo

[coarse estuary]

so basically its a nuzlocke idea where you pick a trainer class from a game then you nuzlocke whatever game as the trainer class only catching pokemon of the types the chosen trainer class uses. there are also bonus restrictions and rules for hard modes. i can send the doc if you wanna look over it

[smoky gyro]

How strong would it be if we got the hp equivalent of body press

Im mainly thinking about chansey and blissey

[wispy osprey]

Ultra Necrozma ZMove be like

[unkempt egret]

isn't that kind of just final gambit but without the whole "remove X HP from both sides" deal

[sour depot]

OMG LIKE A BUG TRAINER RUN?

[coarse estuary]

kinfa

[sour depot]

I'd be interested in looking at the doc if you don't mind

[coarse estuary]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SCzYKGNmrAp6eIquRkkKSTEblXRq6xHNfrwLahVqD6c/edit?usp=drive_link

[sour depot]

How would reporter work?

[coarse estuary]

just google pokemon news articles

and find one that mentions a legal to your run pokemon

[sour depot]

Gen 7 cook scared me for a sec

But I'm definitely considering this

[normal dirge]

I personally perfer pokemon mystery dungeons gates to infinity over any of the pmd explorers games

[wispy osprey]

i dont know if you did this but there is a reference page on bulbapedia that contains links to every trainer class page, which has a list of every trainer of that class in every game and every pokemon they use
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Trainer_classes

you might wanna add that near the top of the doc or whatever

this is so cool tho, i absolutely love it

GAMEFREAK trainer playthrough would be so awesome for gen 5 tho

[coarse estuary]

you know it doesnt have to be the game the trainer class was introduced right like you could do gamefreak in any gen 5 or after (if you are doing hard rules) and also i made this with nuzlockes in mind but totally could be done casually

oh i also have a folder of just achievements i made for various games if yall wanna look at those too

[wispy osprey]

yeah, gen 5 is just my favorite lmao

[coarse estuary]

id bet youd like my achievement lists then

[inland bear]

¤Pokemon insurance¤
Huge question im doin a nuzlock and im at the point of the tournament portion and i realized im not getting any experience from the tournament KOs should i consider one of my pokemon knocked out dead?

Or like since no experience i can consider it not a fight but practice knock out

[unique topaz]

how to turn evee into Umbreon in pokemon violet

[smoky gyro]

Im gonna make you sit through my pps

[scenic whale]

Level up at night with high friendship

[coarse estuary]

In a little bit I'll start an achievement run using an achievement list from my Google drive folder. Y'all are welcome to use a list too if you want

[normal dirge]

I misread that first line as pokemon insurance
And almost wanted a pokemon life sim without the battling portion at center stage, set in castelia city's skyscrapers

[coarse estuary]

You miss read the first line because they spelled insurgence wrong

[unkempt egret]

and also make sure it doesn't know baby-doll eyes or charm (or alluring voice if you have the DLC), which is how you get sylveon

[stray ibex]

If it existed, would y’all play a vr multiplayer Pokemon game?

3D sprites, Pokemon reacting based on nature and Pokédex entry, popular npcs from games (Blue, N, Cynthia, etc)

[brisk hedge]

That’s a lot of ambition for a company that can barely make a functioning game

[sweet crypt]

Your Nuzlocke, your rules. I'd personally count the KOs as deaths.

[mighty robin]

I made it to Konikoni City. The reason why El Foggo is a lower level (and also male) is because I swapped it with the totem I got for 20 stamps.

[unkempt egret]

I read that with "el froggo" and got really confused for a second lol

[past pelican]

You guys should check out this hack, I've been playing it and it's sick

https://github.com/AtSign8877/Pokemon-Evolved

Pokémon: Evolved is a hack of Leaf Green V1.1 where all of the original Gen I pokemon now evolve at least two more times expanding the Pokedex from the original 151 to 354. All new evolutions have custom front and back sprites, pokedex entries, and shiny variants.

also if anyone knows of other cool hacks with a bunch of custom sprites I'm all ears

[orchid pendant]

Slowpoke Shack instantly playing to my tastes by giving me a Growlithe frame 1

[timid flare]

stupid idea decided:
the shiny pyrpol line is going to be this color

and specifically only the shinies can learn levitate as an ability

:)

if you couldn't tell

this is a reference to something

it's a light blue frog that can float you figure it out

[raven bison]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-frog-motorbike-gif-5518257

[timid flare]

exactly

[tough marten]

Is anyone here an expert in Pokemon Pisces?

[regal furnace]

Should I waste time trying to get a shiny sparrow

[waxen grail]

Zesty time controller

[short kernel]

Playing Pokemon Reborn. That one Romhack with bad words in it.

Stuck between a pokemon choice. Solid Rock Camerupt

or

Compound eyes Galvantula.

Not sure which to go with as I only have one Ability capsule

[mighty robin]

guys, in my ultra moon game, my next challenge is to fight olivia for her grand trial

how far in the story would that be

which then i think after beating it, i'll be able to move onto the third island

[stray ibex]

Correct

[mighty robin]

so like 50% done with the game i think

[stray ibex]

No

You have the 4 islands, the trials, and there is a 5th island that is a research facility, there is ultra beasts, you have to go into an ultra wormhole at one point, and something to do with type: Null, but I don’t remember that part as well

[mighty robin]

honestly idk where I got 50% from

ig like just counting the islands

[stray ibex]

It makes sense

But there is more story

[warm rose]

oh this is handy!!
more speed and attack!!

and i unlocked Secret Sword

Sacred?

[stray ibex]

Yes

Sacred sword

[sweet crypt]

Not necessarily

Secret Sword is an 85 BP Special move that targets Physical Defence. It is a Fighting Type move, and the signature move of Keldeo

Sacred Sword is a 90 BP Physical move that ignores stat changes. It is a Fighting type move, and in Gen 5, it was the signature move of the Swords of Justice, including Keldeo, but has since been distributed to other Pokemon

I think the former is more likely, as Pheromosa is a mixed attacker and already has great physical Fighting STAB

[mighty robin]

when I was fighting Olivia, something weird happened, tho I suppose it was just scripted, idk

every time I tried to use the fighting z move (6-7) levels higher than her lycanroc

it outsped, used bite and then I got flinched

then the turn i used a different move, the lycanroc immediately used its own z move

[wispy osprey]

occupational hazard

happened to me as well (no fighting zmove but the same thing with bite flinches)

not much you can do about it (except find a mon with inner focus, idk if you can get one earlygame tho)

[wise sable]

I’m looking to do a soul link with someone just dm me if interested

[mighty robin]

Electric trial is next

[covert fiber]

Bro thinks im letting him evolve

[tight granite]

What?

[coarse estuary]

trying to buckle in and actually do a real playthrough of white 2. i used pk hex to enable challenge mode and i use the memory link feature from my cart of white 1. 2 badges in and im already having a blast

[unkempt egret]

nice nice

[coarse estuary]

also for this playthrough i forgot to mention for my team i decided im going to use 3 unova mons and 3 non unova mons though i only have and decided on 4 of em

[hard plume]

Piplup, upon learning that his trainer doesn't want him to evolve;

[past pelican]

anyone know of a good place to discuss pokemon romhacks and/or nuzlockes? the biggest discord i could find on reddit is like 10k people, which is fine, but finding someone else that is nuzlocking a specific romhack and interested in helping make or use a spreadsheet for it is like finding a needle in 3 haystacks

[coarse estuary]

nuzcord is good for talking bout nuzlockes of rom hacks

[sweet crypt]

Fun fact: Red has lost to 4 different sets of protagonists due to becoming a NPC

Idk if anyone cares

But hey

(Ethan/Lyra on Mount Silver in the Johto games, Nate/Rosa in the PWT in B2W2, Elio/Serene in the Alola games at the Battle Tree and Chase/Elaine in LGPE as a Master Trainer at the Pokemon League Building)

[coarse estuary]

you can fight red in the pwt?

[sweet crypt]

Yes, in the Champion Tournament

The other trainers being Blue, Lance, Steven, Wallace, Cynthia and Alder

[coarse estuary]

i knew wolfe was in but not red

[sweet crypt]

Noticeably, Iris is missing from the list

[coarse estuary]

well considering she is the champ in that game its understandable

[sweet crypt]

This matters if you're a goober like me and are trying to scale all the protagonists

Before I realised that it basically comes down to whose box art legendary is stronger, that is

AKA Rei/Akari sweep lmao

You literally need to catch Arceus to complete the story

That's literally the final story quest

In fact, Rei/Akari are probably the protagonists that catch the most legendaries in the main story

On account of every legendary (and Pokemon, for that matter) being mandatory to beat the game

With the sole exceptions of the ones that you get from having save data of other games

[wispy osprey]

that

's a cool team comp

ive probably mentioned it but in my b2w2 playthrough i used my starter + one pokemon from every gen 1-5

it was so fun

[coarse estuary]

the team im planning to have once i can catch every thing is samurott, leavanny, chandelure, flygon, magnezone and espeon but rn im just gringing every one up to 35 for gym 4

[wispy osprey]

hey i used flygon in b2w2 as well!

[coarse estuary]

this is my first time ever using one

[sweet crypt]

CHANDELURE MENTIONED 🔥

Just uhh

Watch out for Litwick's evolution level

[coarse estuary]

ive used one in bw1 i know all bout it

[sweet crypt]

41 lmao

Arguably the worst example in Unova

Since it's all for a fucking Lampent

And while Chandelure is good, you look at the other high evo level mons and it is nowhere near those guys

Maybe you can argue Mienshao but Mienfoo is one of the best 1st stage Pokemon in existence and Litwick is Litwick

There's a lot of egregious evo levels in Gen 5 and Litwick is certainly up there

Though on 2nd thought Deino is probably worse

[wispy osprey]

i mean, it is the highest evolution level in the game, but it is also arguably the best pokemon in the region

if zweilous was lower i think the deino line wouold be reasonable

(by which i mean if deino evolved at like level 40, zweilous evolving at 64 would be ok to me)

[sweet crypt]

It is certainly not arguable that it isn't even close to being the best Pokemon in the region

[wispy osprey]

wait, so you agree? or you disagree?

[sweet crypt]

I dosagree

I love typos

♥️

Hydreigon is certainly not the best Pokemon in the region

[wispy osprey]

well yeah not including legendaries

[sweet crypt]

In terms of BST, the legendaries have it beat

And in terms of actual viability, even more Pokemon get added to the list

[wispy osprey]

i mean it's hydreigon or volcarona in terms of raw performance

[sweet crypt]

cough cough Volcarona

cough cough Ferrothorn

Ig in playthroughs though Ferrothorn isn't in the argument

At the same time I have seen not a single person care of a Pokemon's performance in a casual playthrough

Apart from youtubers

And myself

Probably other comp players as well

Excadrill is also better than Hydrei from a comp perspective

And in a Gen 5 context, so are Jellicent, Reuniclus, Conkeldurr and Seismitoad

[wispy osprey]

gen 5 limited dex format 😍

[sweet crypt]

And in later gen contexts, while Reuniclis, Seismitoad and Jellicent aren't quite considered better anymore, Conkeldurr still is, and so are Serperior and Alomomola

Oh, there's also Bisharp

[scenic whale]

I mean, hydreigon was so good they had to make a new type to balance it

[sweet crypt]

Though certainly not in Gen 9

[sweet crypt]

It wasn't Hydreigon's existence that brought upon the Fairy type

It's more so stuff like Garchomp and Latios

[wispy osprey]

we love contrary serperior leaf tornado (or is it leaf storm idk)

[sweet crypt]

Hydreigon is just a very, VERY unfortunate victim caught in the crossfire

[scenic whale]

Hydreigon was literally dominating the gen 5 meta

[sweet crypt]

Who just so happens to be impacted even more so than the previous 2

[wispy osprey]

ah yes good old dragon gem latios draco meteor

[sweet crypt]

"Dominating" and it is ranked lower than Seismitoad

[scenic whale]

Along with latios too ngl

[sweet crypt]

In B- no less

Very meta dominating indeed

I'm shivering in my boots at the thought of fighting a B- ranked mon

Whatever shall I do

[scenic whale]

Idk bro, i remember otherwise mb

[scenic whale]

Shit pants

[sweet crypt]

I guess in Doubles I could see that?

[scenic whale]

Yep, I'm referring more to doubles

[sweet crypt]

Even then, there is no way Hydreigon was the tipping point for Fairy

It's more so Gamefreak got tired of the Dragon type shenanigans as a whole

And accidentally caused the creation of an equally broken type

Which made an existing type also rise to be as equally broken

[scenic whale]

Likely, but i like to think it's hydreigon's fault

[sweet crypt]

Whoops

Anyways I guess from a Doubles perspective, Hydreigon is probably the best non legendary from Gen 5?

[scenic whale]

I guess so

[sweet crypt]

But the original prompt was about how good a Pokemon was in a playthrough

And playthroughs are primarily Singles

AKA: Volcarona sweep, LFG

There are a few Pokemon ranked higher than Volcarona

[scenic whale]

In that case, it is probably volc

[sweet crypt]

But generally in casual playthroughs, slower, bulkier Pokemon aren't as preferred

So that eliminates Ferrothorn and Reuniclus

You could definitely argue for Excadrill though

Since I forgot Sand Rush is actually banned

[scenic whale]

I guess hydreigon is eliminated because you can just beat the league and zweilous won't even evolve

[sweet crypt]

And it isn't a sand abuser as a result

While still being higher ranked

Excadrill sweep

If we include legendaries then there's still Terrakion right below Volcarona

[wispy osprey]

it'll be evolved by the time you fight alder

in bw1

[sweet crypt]

And all the Swords of Justice are pre league iirc

[wispy osprey]

although in b2w2 it won't be evolved in time to fight iris

[sweet crypt]

I have 0 clue on Thundurus though lol and I think Thundurus is primarily a Rain abuser

Would explain Politoed being ranked directly under it

Gen 5 is known as the weather generation for good reason

(In a competitive context)

(Casual fans probably know Gen 3 as the weather generation, but it's more of the Sandstorm generation in OU)

[wispy osprey]

gen 3 is the weather generation in lore, gen 5 is the weather generation in comp

[sweet crypt]

I'm pretty sure all 3 weather speed Abilities at the time were banned for being broken lol

Well, technically

Neither Swift Swim nor Chlorophyll were banned

You just can't use them on the same team as Drizzle and Drought respectively

They tried the same thing with Sand Rush

But I'm pretty sure Rain teams just brought Excadrill to instantly win against Sand teams as a result

But yeah TLDR: Hydreigon is not the best Gen 5 Pokemon even ignoring the level requirement

It's close at least

It is undoubtedly an overall good mon

It just isn't at the top

Much better than Goodra at least lmao

Goodra so terribly needs a buff

You can't just be a PU mon while having the title of Pseudo Legendary, or Powerhouse or whatever

That's embarrassing

Especially when the next lowest is like what, RU?

A full 2 tiers higher?

[delicate hollow]

There will never be an official Pokemon game in the main series with a full blown national dex post Sword and Shield as the Switch can’t carry 1025 Pokemon in one game due to limitations

[vernal compass]

You wont believe what's coming out

The switch 2

[wispy osprey]

as if any of us can afford that 💀

[wispy osprey]

Hisuian Goodra:

Iron Defense Body Press go brrrrrrr

[sweet crypt]

Funny you should say that, that's the RU Pokemon I was referring to

Would you call Hisuian Samurott a buff to Samurott?

I wouldn't

I'd consider it an entirely different thing altogether

That's how I view the 2 Goodras as well

Hisuian Goodra does not count as a buff to Goodra imo

At the end of the day, base Goodra still needs a buff

[cloud lark]

I've been spending the last week slowly assembling a 1026-piece Eeveelution puzzle, only to discover that my set has a manufacturing error that's left it impossible to finish 😔

[coarse estuary]

almost done grinding, just need 4 levels and then 1 pokemon grinded up then i can catch my trapinch and go challenge gym 4

[wispy osprey]

the two that you have next to each other can go in the bottom left piece and the one that's currently in the way between the two gaps there could go in the space on the right?

there's still a missing piece but could you try that?

[hard plume]

the outrage and time itself should help with the price

[cloud lark]

Except Nintendo doesn't discount their games. If anything, all the games we've seen so far are just getting released for the Switch 3 at $100 in 6 years

Especially considering they've already doubled down on the prices in an interview

As well as stuff I can't talk about cause Rule 8

[unkempt egret]

that being said they had 60$ as a standard since... the wii or gamecube era I think? impressive that they kept it going for so long

[cloud lark]

Funny how games kept seeing record profits in spite of that isn't it? Almost like game companies were only advocating for raising the prices to make more money or something...

[unkempt egret]

company moment

gotta just either take it or leave it

[pine ingot]

how can I use z and a in any game

[tight granite]

[vague anvil]

Y'all know why Arceus, the god of all pokemon, not available in sword and shield

[tight granite]

cause its a mythical

[tropic hinge]

Cause it took one look at not-Britain and said 'hell no'.

[hard plume]

Because a different god rules that region and Arceus is gonna have a hard time competing with this:

.....Well great. Now I have to name every Zarude I see "Robbie". Thanks me.

[tropic hinge]

You have done this to yourself. Not you see many zarude.

[hard plume]

well I did say a while back that I'll name every Grookey I see "Robbie" too... so yeah I'm gonna have a whole army of grass apes

[tropic hinge]

The army of Rob. Wait, that's from a different franchise.

[edgy steeple]

how do we play other games such as inf fusion on pc?>

like

Any other pokemon games for pc?

[delicate hollow]

Has anyone seen or played a rom hacks which replaces pokemon with other well known “creatures”?
I want to see a final fantasy cross over

PokèFantasy?

[past pelican]

anyone know if you can get missingno in pokemon evolved?

[turbid spoke]

Anybody tell how to download pokemon infinite fusion in Android please help me for download

[visual saddle]

700-800 SRs on a legit copy of Platinum, caught in the distortion world.

[visual saddle]

Next up is probably going to be Creselia or Mesprit. It's gonna be one then the other. I want to get them out of the way because of how annoying they are, being roamers, but I need to get all the Gen 4 Legends hunted so I can get my Poke Radar with the Nat Dex.

[visual saddle]

Also notice the Premier ball. 13 throws at a 1.598% chance (1HP + Slept). The luck is insane.

[stray ibex]

All hail the Lord Skorpion

[wispy osprey]

AZELF

dude i love azelf he's such a silly guy

[pine ingot]

anyone have cool rom hacks for Gba?

[coarse estuary]

how azlef is the worst pokemon ever

[wispy osprey]

dude wtf no Azelf is great

he’s silly, bouncy, and friendly

[sonic sky]

archie so goated

[sweet crypt]

The being of willpower's primary strategy in competitive is blowing itself up at the start of each battle and that's funny to me

[thin plover]

I got shiny mesprite in pokemon go

[brisk hedge]

What did Azelf ever do to you?

[coarse estuary]

hit 3 horn drills on me in a row at minus 6 accuracy to cause me to lose a nuzlocke

[unkempt egret]

randomizer?

[wispy osprey]

yeah and my first shiny in any pokemon game ever was Palkia from a raid in pokemon go; that doesn’t mean it’s my favorite

(and mesprit is a roaming pokemon in Platinum; any pokemon that roams is automatically bad /s)

[normal lark]

If i wanna play all the pokemon games which emulator should I get (I was thinking of playing emerald, x and y, or sun and moon)

[coarse estuary]

what device you on

[normal lark]

pc

[coarse estuary]

then for gba id say mgba for nds id go melon ds citra for 3ds games

[normal lark]

you recommended any roms or actual games I should play

I want something with some-what newer graphics (not black and white pokemon red yk) like x and y or something

[coarse estuary]

cant give resources to roms but i can recommend some rom hacks i like

[sweet crypt]

Forgot that Tapu Bulu's temple was in the desert

Imagine being a plant based lifeform

And your people

BUild your temple

IN A DESERT

No wonder bro is the worst of the Tapus

[normal lark]

yeah the latter

[coarse estuary]

even worse its a maze to get there

[quasi dagger]

full odds shiny snorunt in platinum???

AND its female??

[mighty thunder]

Make it faint trust

It’s just a glitch

[coarse estuary]

always love when people find full odds shinies in any game without modded odds

[quasi dagger]

i was just level grinding because i am severely underleveled and now i have a new teammate

[coarse estuary]

im shocked with how much audino grinding ive been doing in my white 2 challenge mode casual playthrough i dont have one yet

[quasi dagger]

i would kill for a shiny audino it's my favorite pokemon of all time

[coarse estuary]

you could have combatted the haters when i use one in an old black playthrough i did. so many people when i showed my team in that playthrough were telling me to replace so many team members because they didnt like it even though it wasnt their game

[quasi dagger]

i used audino all the way past the 8th gym in black

i dropped it before the elite 4 though

kinda wanna play through black again but on an audino only run

[coarse estuary]

i just hate how some people are like even though its not my playthrough i get to control what is and isnt used

[quasi dagger]

true you just gotta let people do their playthroughs the way they want to do them

[coarse estuary]

like just because you dont like x mon or starter or rules or whatever doesnt mean that you can say any run that uses those things is wrong and thus you get to control what they do

[hard plume]

it's definitely gonna be an army lemme tell ya

[covert fiber]

Thats not a passimian…

[sweet crypt]

Why, yes, none of those are Passimians. I have 0 clue why that is significant whatsoever, since I do not play GO

Anyways, a lot of people always talk about buffing Ice defensively

But hot take, Ice may not even need a buff, it may just need Gamefreak to stop making them defensive mons

And if it were to be buffed, making it defensively average would ruin the entire point of the type

The type is clearly meant to be an offensive powerhouse but a defensive liability

And I don't see why that's a bad thing, really

Since as it stands right now, Ice isn't broken, unlike the type at the opposite end of the "only good in 1 way" spectrum, Steel

Admittedly though Steel isn't the worst type offensively

That honour goes to Bug

Or uhh

Dishonour

And yet a Bug weakness is still terrible to have

U-Turn moment

[pure temple]

yo any recommanded rom hack of emerald? i just complete quetzal , cres dex i just need emerald gameplay but with much pokemon or mega evolve

[broken crater]

moon emerald

?tag bomb

[ebon pond]

💣

[delicate hollow]

On a difficulty scale how would you rate/rank/describe completing the national dex from Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald to Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire and the games that came out in between?

Sun and Moon only got the Alola dex and Sword and Shield ditched the National dex for the DLC expansion dex

[boreal storm]

Weed cat

[last egret]

UNPOPULAR OPINION
The 3DS Era of Pokémon was better than the DS Era

X&Y, ORAS, S/M/US/UM

That’s like the renaissance of Pokémon

Golden Age: Gen 1-2
The era of Pokemania

Dark Age: Gen 3-5
Pokémon got lost figuring out their identity

Renaissance: Gen 6-7
Pokémon re-established themselves as a powerhouse

Modern Age: Gen 8-9
Pokémon experiments and adapts to the new changing gaming landscape

[sweet crypt]

Oh shit an actually hot take let 'em cook

[unkempt egret]

ngl it's not my take but I think the most thermonuclear pokemon take I've seen was someone earnestly arguing that the physcial/special split ruined the series gameplay-wise

for a few reasons but the main one I remember was that it caused dragon (and ghost to an extent) to get too powerful in gens 4/5 which snowballed from there. they had other points but that was the one that stuck out for me as just being power creep taken out of context

also I do agree that gens 3 and 6 did radically change how pokemon kinda saw itself

with gen 3 being where it became exactly what gen 1 was satirizing

[sweet crypt]

Gen 1 was satire for something?

Anyways I kinda get the point from the physical/special split but what's more important? Some Pokemon getting a bit broken or others being completely and utterly dogshit because their STABs are the wrong type?

Besides it's not like not adding the physical/special split would just halt powercreep

I also see arguments that the physical/special split hurt some Pokemon like Gengar and Sceptile, but I feel the need to mention that Gengar had 0 STAB before the split and it still retains special Electric moves, so it lost 2 admittedly great offensive types while gaining STAB, also allowing it to later utilise moves like Focus Blast that'd have otherwise been Physical

As for Sceptile, it had 3 total special coverage moves before the split excluding Hidden Power

It's special coverage pre split is roughly as dogshit as it currently is

Even more so if you include Hidden Power

Though only by technicality

Bro can't catch a break...

Physical/Special split completely changed Pokemon, that is true. But personally, I think it did so in a good way

That said it isn't perfected yet because we still have shit like Zen Headbutt, Play Rough and Wild Charge being the best non signature physical moves of their type

Like bro wtf

How can you say that ZEN HEADBUTT is your best STAB

That's just ridiculous

80 BP and it has the audacity to only have 90% accuracy

And a lower flinch rate than Iron Head with the same BP and perfect accuracy

It's like Rock Slide except at least Rock Slide is on a good offensive type

And has a better flinch rate albeit 5 less BP

Though at this rate 75 vs 80 at 90% accuracy is just trash vs garbage

Just use Stone Edge

At least when it hits it does actual damage

The sad part is that I see about as many signature moves and Rock Blast as Stone Edge

In the sample sets

And Stealth Rock is more often than not the only rock move the rock types are using

Tbf a lot of them are defensive Pokemon... with a less than stellar defensive type...

But here I am ranting about pet peeves I have for Pokemon again

[last egret]

3DS Era Pokémon was way better. Like mega evolutions went crazy. ORAS are arguably the best remakes in the whole series

Sun and Moon has very few haters

[raven bison]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-i-think-i-agree-with-that-statement-metal-gear-rising-gif-25924558

[brisk hedge]

What's crazy is calling Gens 3-5 the dark ages. Gens 3-4 gave us important mechanics, such as nature, abilities and the physical/special split, in addition to being fantastic games, and the Unova games are debatably the best in the franchise. Plus, those Gens gave us some great spinoffs, such as Pokémon mystery dungeon, the Pokémon Ranger trilogy, Pokémon Colosseum and XD, and Pokémon Conquest.

If anything, modern day Pokémon is the dark ages, what with Gen 8 getting rid of the national dex for "better graphics" (and that's just scratching the surface for Galar) and Gen 9 being a buggy mess

[unkempt egret]

imo, the best pokemon gen is almost always "the one you grew up with"

as for the dark ages I'd probably agree with the modern times. not for the games themselves but for the western fandom just tearing itself apart starting in 2019

it just feels like we got a lot more vitriolic and hostile and I almost feel like it's boiled over tensions from gens 6 and 7 (mostly in how USUM and VC crystal were handled for the latter) that finally exploded the moment the dex cuts were announced

[brisk hedge]

Also, I forgot to mention that the remakes that took place in Gens 3&4 (FRLG and HGSS) are objectively better then the originals in every way

[unkempt egret]

HGSS gets a lot of mileage of really being a remake of crystal with GS exclusives tacked on

[brisk hedge]

Meanwhile, the only remakes to come out in Gen 8 were a massive disappointment

[unkempt egret]

as opposed to ORAS and BSDP both ignoring their superior third versions

[last egret]

Gen 6 gave rise to 3D Pokémon, Mega Evolutions too.

3D era Pokémon is peak

[brisk hedge]

I'd still say that ORAS is a good remake over all though

[unkempt egret]

even though HGSS has its faults (slowest game pace in the series, throwing eusine's characterization under the bus in favor of the kimono girls, some online features that got lost to time)

[brisk hedge]

I'm not saying that Gens 6 & 7 are bad, just that Gens 3-5 are very far away from the dark ages

[unkempt egret]

oras feels like a bunt for me unless I'm taking advantage of gen 4-6 mons in like an egglocke and whatnot

not bad but not great either

[brisk hedge]

No Pokémon game (or any game at all for that matter) is perfect

[unkempt egret]

(BSDP doesn't even get that rofl)

that being said I think my hot take is that I just don't like megas and how they play favorites lol

out of the gen gimmicks I think mine goes tera <- Z-moves/megas <- dynamax

Z-moves I like the idea of them more than how they are actually executed

[brisk hedge]

I'd say Z-moves and dynamax are way worse with favoritism

[unkempt egret]

like I want more silly stuff like Z-conversion or splash like the status Z-moves were fun when they hit a good note

but otherwise it's "use nuke on opponent"

which is just dynamax tier

for favorites tho uh

dynamax still loses there rofl

since it's just gen 1/8 mons and garbodor because actual dev favorite

actually second hot take I guess is counting memetal as a gen 8 non-legendary mon

[graceful mirage]

Mechanically I think terastalization is the most interesting but megas are my favorite

[unkempt egret]

instead of then gen 7 mythical it's presented as

[brisk hedge]

Also Melmetal (though I personally hate that thing)

[unkempt egret]

yea counted metal as gen 8 there lol

[brisk hedge]

Melmetal definitely came out during Gen 7

[unkempt egret]

since I don't count Lets Go as a gen 7 game since it has far more in common with Swish than it does the alola games

[graceful mirage]

Melmetal is kinda forgettable for the primary reason that getting it sucks

[unkempt egret]

(I do count it as main series tho, just as the start of gen 8)

[graceful mirage]

I only remember melmetal exists because ash had one in the anime

[unkempt egret]

I would say it's the start of when the mythical term lost meaning for me but again, ORAS started that with deoxys

(I guess jirachi as early as colo bonus disk now that I think about it)

[graceful mirage]

Tbf it's way better when mythical aren't limited. The limited time stuff just makes them forgettable

[unkempt egret]

I do agree with that to a point but I also just don't like using them in general with a few exceptions

[graceful mirage]

Like I love diancie but it really could've been a carbink evolution and I would've been way happier because then I could actually use it

[unkempt egret]

same thing with phione for me

where I wish it was just a normal mon and not barred off because of relations like carbink isn't

[graceful mirage]

Like if I didn't use marshadow in my first usum or SM run (I can't remember which) I would never remember it exists

[unkempt egret]

meanwile I didn't and still don't lol

[graceful mirage]

Exactly

[unkempt egret]

outside of my one friend who likes it

[sweet crypt]

Yeah no the worst part of Pokemon as with every big game is its community and it isn't even close

[unkempt egret]

but yea I hope meltan gets an actual evo change like the location evos did

[graceful mirage]

How does meltan evolve?

I thought you just had to get one in go

[unkempt egret]

agreed, ideally interact with the fans as little as you can for the best experience

[unkempt egret]

400 candies in GO and that's it

[graceful mirage]

That's so boring

[unkempt egret]

if you don't have GO, tough luck

[graceful mirage]

Thankfully I don't like melmetal so I don't care

[unkempt egret]

that also means meltan can't use the eviolite either

[graceful mirage]

He's cool but not enough to install go

[unkempt egret]

kinda like how G-max eevee/pikachu can't use the eviolite either

[sweet crypt]

literally on a server for a Pokemon fangame

... Multiple, actually, in my case

The number of people who just shit on anyone who even dares utter a single word of Competitive Pokemon on YouTube especially is crazy

Verlisify is extremely bad rep

I swear we hate this mf as much if not more than the casual fans

The "TOXIC LEGENDARY SPAMMER CRIES SALTY TEARS" videos don't help either

Since like 99% of them are staged and, even though I'm sure it wasn't the intention, it forms the idea that Showdown and Smogon is made primarily of toxic salty idiots

Which I see so many casual fans repeat

I think I can count the number of toxic players I've seen on one hand

Even ignoring the prejudice against Competitive Pokemon players (I've seen some comparisons with groups of people I'm sure the direct mentioning of would get me banned), dear lord the community is just so cringe sometimes

Please stop repeating the same old "OMG CYNTHIA" and "Did you know" memes over and over

They were never funny

They will never be funny

Especially the 2nd one

I can look over the 1st one but the 2nd one is just

Bruh

Can't even enjoy a Pokemon in peace without getting weird looks now

Sorry if this sounds a bit negative towards the Pokemon community

... But that's kind of the point?

It's just kinda extremely frustrating

[unkempt egret]

speaking of frustrating like this should not count

also yea fandoms will always parrot the same 3-4 bits over and over again especially if they know it'll just get a rise out of people

since it's not up to them to come up with actual jokes and insights

there's also the whole "the bigger the fandom is the louder it's dumber members screech for attention" rule too

[sweet crypt]

Problem: Jokes are meant to be funny

[unkempt egret]

and jokes lose their impact the more they're repeated

I thought for a sec if there was a pokemon move that was like that then was like "oh right overheat and its type-swaps"

[graceful mirage]

I mean there is a fire move that makes you lose your fire type

[unkempt egret]

I was thinking a gradual drop but that also counts

actually hot take question mark

can we get the hyper beam clones to all work like gigaton hammer does

[graceful mirage]

Wdym by hyper beam clone

[unkempt egret]

where you just can't use that move again rather than just being a sitting duck

[sweet crypt]

It'd be funnier if they worked like Hyper Beam did in Gen 1 as a throwback even if that was likely a glitch

[unkempt egret]

like hyper beam/giga impact, rock wrecker, roar of time, those moves

[graceful mirage]

I mean gigaton hammer is only balanced because it's on a pokemon with shit attack stats

[unkempt egret]

also yea Decisive Strike was definitely a thing

[sweet crypt]

Roar of Time though definitely should receive the Gigaton Hammer treatment

[unkempt egret]

and then we get bloodmoon on something with a functioning attack stat

[sweet crypt]

There is 0 justification for a box art legendary's signature move being a contender for worst move of its type

[unkempt egret]

actually yea maybe apply it to all except hyper impact and maybe the starter ones?

certain starters like the protean trio probably don't need the help rofl

[sweet crypt]

The problem is that a majority certainly do

[unkempt egret]

Actually I take all of that back

[sweet crypt]

And besides, neither Incineroar nor Meowscarada are abusing their moves

[unkempt egret]

I do not want to fight a shell smashing crustle without its cooldown turn after it liquifies one of my mons

[sweet crypt]

My brain went to Incineroar as its also a Dark type lol

:P

[unkempt egret]

lol

[sweet crypt]

Cinderace still doesn't abuse it it's fine

[unkempt egret]

yea incineroar is abusing fake out + intimidate mostly (and parting shot?)

[sweet crypt]

Incineroar is abusing in Doubles and getting abused in Singles

[unkempt egret]

I forget if it gets parting shot or U-turn

[sweet crypt]

It gets both

[unkempt egret]

thanks

[graceful mirage]

Parting shot

Maybe it also gets U turn but parting shot is the one people use

[sweet crypt]

At least I think it gets both? A lot of mons get U-Turn and I think Incin is one of them

The biggest redeeming factor of your type and you get it less than the Flying type...

Yup, Incineroar does and always has gotten U-Turn via TM

Anyways in Incineroar's defence

It's like

Average for a starter in Singles

The starters in general have an average about the same as every other Pokemon

As do non box art legendaries tbh

Competitive doesn't care if you're a starter or legendary or Pseudo Legendary or normal, if your stats, movepool, type etc are wack, you're getting a low tier placement

[frank lily]

Being a Typhlosion fan now kinda sucks

the jokes got stale on day 1

[sweet crypt]

The jokes didn't get stale they already were

[graceful mirage]

I like vaporeon ):