other-pokemon-games

[mystic pecan]

If you're interested, just message me 🙂

[rare breach]

How do I get shiny Miraidon and ogrepon

[unkempt snow]

to my knowledge
they're shiny locked

that
or you get them hacked

[rare breach]

Awww

[waxen grail]

They may do a shiny korai and mirai distribution before the next gen releases

[smoky gyro]

I still hate them shiny locking stuff

[tight ivy]

same

[smoky gyro]

It serves 0 good

I dont see what benefit it gives

[rapid tendon]

guys what game and type of nuzlocke should i do?

[waxen grail]

The nonexistent kind :>

[glacial verge]

Man fuck you

Literally the exact opposite of what i want😭

Finally

[jolly vapor]

Nice Im playing Moemon star emerald

[glacial verge]

“Really bro?”

Using god against a sentient ice cube

[waxen grail]

you're about to find out why god stays in heaven

[glacial verge]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-buscemi-gif-20922935

[waxen grail]

I'd stay away too if I found out I created whatever Glalie is

[glacial verge]

[rapid tendon]

what should i name my female mudkip for a nuzlocke

[waxen grail]

doomed

[glacial verge]

The only good thing about pla

The legend plate

Cuz fuck you im changing type mid battle

Specifically to what ur weak to

Lmfao fairy arceus

Look at god what a diva

[analog schooner]

What's everyone's opinions on Pokémon unite?

[sweet crypt]

Fun game if you have friends, if you don't then prepare to get fucked over by matchmaking

Also very toxic so don't turn on vc

In fact, turning on VC apparently gets you mass false reported and banned

And in terms of balancing, it is somehow even less balanced than Gen 9

And if you've seen Gen 9 Competitive, you know that's not a good thing

[analog schooner]

Oh jesus that is bad 😭. I have yet to experience any of that honestly. And so far my matchmaking has been adequate

[sweet crypt]

Early ladder is mostly bot games

AKA free wins

[analog schooner]

Makes sense

[sweet crypt]

Ngl Fraudeleki is gonna instantly fall to RU or lower in Gen 10

My guy was struggling in UU in his debut generation

The only reason Regieleki isn't currently RU is because of Tera

[analog schooner]

Reall

[sweet crypt]

I dont think there's a singular Pokemon more reliant on Tera than Regieleki

Unless you include Shedinja who literally doesn't exist in Gen 9

I guess you could argue Serperior and maybe, just maybe, Garganacl

I doubt Espathra would fall as far as Eleki, it still has Calm Mind Speed Boost Stored Power and still has Dgleam to help vs Dark types

[analog schooner]

I think Espartha can be useful in a non-competetive environment, but Eleki is completely useless in competitive without tera and something else to back it up

[queen yacht]

great game, i like how grass types are op in unite, homing bomb flower trick, straight solar blade, yeah its a good game

[analog schooner]

Yeah I'm loving the grass type respect (not so pro tip: don't waste anything on Zoroak it's soo bad 😞)

[queen yacht]

ok, but also there is a thing with zeraora whos also good but never beating the more then op grass types, so it aint worth the grind

[sweet crypt]

Back when I played Unite often, my main was Dodrio

Avian Monslaughter
Bottom text

[analog schooner]

Thanks for the advice

[analog schooner]

I usually choose between cinderace, venasaur, buzzwole or duodo

[sweet crypt]

Buzzwole was my other main lmao

I pick Buzzwole whenever 2 people pick a jungler after I pick Doduo

Seriously these mfs need to like

Learn to not just all pick jungler after someone already picked a jungler

Ffs

(I also pick Buzzwole if someone picks a jungler before me)

(But that should be obvious)

[queen yacht]

my first main was Leafeon back when it got into unite, i got the limited licence for it, checked it out, fell in love with it, then meowscarada with homing bomb flower trick, as i said

[sweet crypt]

Man I remember fighting Leafeon back in the day

So damn annoying to fight

But at least it wasn't Glaceon

Absolutely deserved the nerfs, that piece of shit did

Absolutely the least favourite Pokemon I've had to fight

[analog schooner]

Honestly I haven't come across something too broken to fight just yet. Chansey and garchomp are harder than most if there's no teamwork, but I think the balance has improved

[queen yacht]

Hollup didnt i kill ya once with leafeon? do you remember fighing a leafeon used by "olokier" (my unite name)

[obtuse quest]

Fun!

[sweet crypt]

Bold of you to assume I remember anyone I meet on Unite

[queen yacht]

oh, right...

[jolly vapor]

pokemon but waifus

[tight ivy]

Seems a tad nsfw

[jolly vapor]

k

anyway gotta check out other fan games

[tight ivy]

@blazing surge is this nsfw? The heavy cleavage is lewd

[blazing surge]

it is

[tight ivy]

Thank you

[blazing surge]

Need I do the formalities or was the message understood?

?tag rule2

[ebon pond]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 2 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Nudity/Sex/Anything NSFW. This shouldn't really need to be said, since this is a server dedicated to Pokémon, but here we are. This means no pornography or anything of the like. No NSFW names/avatars, no NSFW conversations, no suggestive emotes, no sexualizing Pokémon or other people, and absolutely no mentions of anything horny whatsoever, even as a joke.

[jolly vapor]

oh ok my bad

i like those evil team and the game gets hard in later parts

[tight ivy]

I’ve been looking for masks like those

[jolly vapor]

fan game is called xenoverse

[analog schooner]

Insurgence is great, try that

[blazing surge]

^seconded

[analog schooner]

If we're talking specifically fan games and not rom hacks

[blazing surge]

it's a bit edgy but fun

[analog schooner]

When controlled I think Pokémon deserves that little extra edgy-ness

[tight ivy]

what’s the one with the Cult of Darkrai?

[blazing surge]

yes

[tight ivy]

That one was edgy in a lukewarm way

[blazing surge]

I didnt really care about it too much

Even shiny hunted a team in it

[lusty hinge]

Small list of pokemon fangames. I personally recommend Super Pokemon Eevee Edition
Azure
Bushido
Eon Guardians
Fellowship in Kanto
How you survive a pokemon journey
Infinite Fusion
Infinity
Insurgence
Opalo
Pathways
Pokewilds
Realidea
Reborn
Rejuvination
Solar Light and Lunar Dark
Super Pokemon Eevee Edition
That gym of mine
The last nurse joy
Xenoverse
Zeta

[cloud shale]

would u say any of these come close to infinite fusion?

[analog schooner]

Infinite fusion is quite close to infinite fusion if you look carefully

[lusty hinge]

lmao, I just copied the list from another server

[lusty hinge]

Hmm... Infinite fusion is quite unique, but at the same time it is one of many games based in Kanto. Most of the ones listed have their own region with their own stories. Insurgence for example has cults and delta pokemon (Similar concept as regional variants, different background story) Pathways is a game where choices actually matter but the game is a very big project and far from done. That gym of mine has you play as a gym leader. It is getting a remaster version since the original is buggy, etc.

But Super Pokemon Eevee Edition is very different from normal pokemon games. You have gen 2 graphics, ff7 type combat, one of the most unique stories, and an eevee that can swap between all its evolutions

[cloud shale]

aight ty 🙂

[pine ingot]

infinite fusion also takes place in johto setting it apart from other fire red hacks

[wispy osprey]

seriously when are we going to get Johto as a DLC for LGPE

[lusty hinge]

True

But that is more postgame

[boreal storm]

What if gen 10 was a reboot

[analog schooner]

A reboot of?

Wait does that mean the same as remake

[boreal storm]

A reboot to the whole series

We will start from the beginning again

[broken crater]

want bulbasaur, charmander or eternatus as your starter

[sweet crypt]

I wonder if I'm taking the poisonous flower frog(?), the fire lizard or The Apocalypse

[broken crater]

I would press B and beat up Gary

[sweet crypt]

Yeah fuck it time to start the apocalypse

[unkempt snow]

if venusaur is a frog, bulbasaur is too

[sweet crypt]

OK, but is Venusaur a frog?

It looks somewhat like one

But they're a lot more of ambiguous creature than frog imo

[unkempt snow]

i think (I'm not positive)
a developer of pokemon did say that venusaur was a frog

plus there's a lil event in pokemon snap on switch that has venusaur jump like a frog

so I'd say, the line is frogs

[sweet crypt]

Fair enough

Still taking The Apocalypse (tm)

[unkempt snow]

fair

the destruction satellite

[sweet crypt]

Gamefreak fucking cooked with the 2 alien apocalyptic dragons in odd numbered generations

[unkempt snow]

real

[unkempt snow]

blue vs green

[unkempt egret]

the family

[craggy ore]

Does anyone have Pokémon Scarlet and a Roaring Moon? I need one for my dex and I'm willing to trade an Iron Valiant or shiny Murkrow

[unkempt egret]

I can probably hop on later to grab one, currently drawing before the fuecoco com day starts

[craggy ore]

Okay! Sorry for just dropping that out of nowhere

[unkempt egret]

it's fine, don't worry about that lol

[brisk hedge]

Speaking of paradox Pokémon, I’m curious to know whether or not they can breed

[dapper galleon]

Is gen 7,8 and 9 added?

[brisk hedge]

You mean to IF?

[waxen grail]

Undiscovered egg group. So no

[coarse estuary]

skyla down

[dapper galleon]

Oh. They arent. Ok.

[gusty mist]

Nice

[spring tide]

yall fw pokerouge?

[gusty mist]

I play the game

[mental arch]

I like PokeRouge

[broken crater]

Anyone down for some unite?

[brisk hedge]

Where did this dude get a Cranidos? Aren’t they supposed to be extinct

[timid flare]

im bored so im making a region concept

the region's entire theme

is just

pure chaos

henceforth i can get away with making the fire starter a frog

(third evo coming soon)

[waxen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/hakos-baelz-bae-smile-gif-11967835680163462369

Chaos

[timid flare]

imean the region's name is Amagla
and the way it came to be was one day in the ancient past groudon and regigigas got so bored that they decided to take all the land they could to make one huge landmass

arceus stopped them before any major damage was done to any regions but Amagla is still huge

-# groudon kinda pinned the whole idea on regigigas henceforth he was cursed with slow start, lol

imean does an evolutionary line of Glockodile and Gatligator sound like it'd be found in any other region?

[waxen grail]

I wonder if it's possible to make custom Pokemon Colosseum Battle-E cards like how Blissy has been making custom gen 3 events

[timid flare]

there's going to be 36 total gyms if everything goes to plan

1 for each type
and since there's 18 types, the other 18 are themed after things other than types

for example: a gym that's a sports bar full of tough biker dudes

but all of them have friendship based pokemon

oh

right

if anyone has any questions about it

go ahead

[brisk hedge]

You know what would be really chaotic? Making the starters use a type trio other than grass/fire/water

[timid flare]

what do you think this is? the ultra metropolis?

[brisk hedge]

Actually, I’ve thought of something even more chaotic: a starter Pokémon of every type

[unkempt egret]

I think there are a few other trios but the key issue is that every single one either involves one member having an immunity instead of just a resistance or one member interacts abnormally with the normal type (either hitting it for SE damage or resisting/immune to it)

also I do know a fangame that leans whole into that and gives every character in the game as a possible starter option

with the catch that they have nearly maxed IV's out of the gate compared to the wilds

[coarse estuary]

i know pokemon spork gives the player every pokemon ever as a starter

[sweet crypt]

I just finished ranting a shitload about why a majority of Baby Pokemon fucking suck

[unkempt egret]

unless you're magby and elekid who have oddly high BST's for what they are

[sweet crypt]

They also both suck

Who the actual FUCK

Is looking at Magmar and Electabuzz

And going

[unkempt egret]

elekid's on par with... spinda and magby's at about nidorin@ and flaafy's level

[sweet crypt]

"Hey, you know what these ACTUAL SHITMONS need?"

"THAT'S FUCKING RIGHT, THEY NEED PREVOS!"

They did add Electivire and Magmortar later

But the former is a massive overrated fraud

And the latter is... an NU and PU staple

[unkempt egret]

ah yes something with 490 and 495 BST's a shitmon now rofl

[coarse estuary]

still baffles me why chingling exists and not a chimeecho evo

[sweet crypt]

Not the greatest outcome

[sweet crypt]

If BST was everything, Duraludon wouldn't be worse than fucking Gligar

But Duraludon's just a fraud like that

[unkempt egret]

my line for a shitmon is like... sub 420 unless those stats are really well distributed

either way comp =/= in-game

both of those mons are fine since they add new opportunities to put those mons in the earlier game

[sweet crypt]

And seriously, I want you to look at me in the eye, and tell me, DEAD SERIOUS

That motherfucking WIGGLYTUFF

[unkempt egret]

as opposed to the ones who were already fine to have in the earlygame like pikachu and jigglypuff lol

[sweet crypt]

And its 435 BST PURE NORMAL TYPE AT THE TIME ASS

Didn't need an evolution, no

What it did need, however

Was a PREVO TO ITS PREVO!

[unkempt egret]

in the maingame, I am indeed looking you in the eye and saying that you can make it work.

[sweet crypt]

You can make fucking Sunkern work if you're dedicated to it

[unkempt egret]

that being said I do agree on igglybuff being one of the marketing ones

[sweet crypt]

So that doesn't say much

[unkempt egret]

if you're in comp then that's just boring when you're mostly using the same pool of about 30-40 mons and just leaving the remaining choices to just rot in "maybe a niche as a lure if they're lucky, or maybe there's an OM where they're good"

[sweet crypt]

Trust me, if I was to choose out of all the fully evolved Pokemon to pick

Wigglytuff would be in the bottom 20

And below some NFEs

This really needed an evolution

No Mega Evolution could save this disaster

They tried for Camerupt and Sharpedo

[unkempt egret]

still as for the babies they're a pretty firm reminder that pokemon has aspects to it that aren't just the games, gotta have some little blobs being cute for the children in the anime

[sweet crypt]

Which may I remind you have 25 higher BST

Which is still low

But better than 435

[unkempt egret]

either way your arguing is tiring, I shall leave it at that. feel free to continue but I wouldn't call them all wastes myself

[sweet crypt]

If I don't have a deranged rant about how much I fucking hate babies, nothing happens but I'm phrasing it as if the sun will explode because I like being dramatic for the fun of it

And yeah, I don't think all of them are wastes

But for the most part, if it actively takes away from a Pokemon that desperately needs an evolution, I'll dislike it unconditionally

On the other hand, if it's something like Togepi, Riolu or Toxel where they're introduced in the same gen as their evos

Or something like Happiny where holy fucking SHIT thank god we don't have to worry about Gamefreak giving Blissey an evolution now

Or even Tyrogue, who links together a group of Pokemon that at the time had technically 0 connection to each other

That I can at least somewhat respect, maybe

And while I hate Cleffa for this reasoning, I will admit that Gamefreak managed to save Clefable hard

All it took was giving it possibly the most broken ability not named Huge/Pure Power or Wonder Guard

And then the Fairy Type for good measure 2 generations after that

And also at the same time thank the gods that a Clefable Evolution will never exist

Gamefreak simply prophecised that Clefable would become a menace to society

And Cleffa was a preemptive measure

Frfr

TLDR: A large amount of Baby Pokemon serve the primary purpose of being marketable and fucking over their evolutions, and I'm not happy about that

[brisk hedge]

Since we’re talking about baby Pokémon, here’s my baby Pokémon tier list

[coarse estuary]

7th gym down

[boreal storm]

For me, pichu is the worse, we could get Gorochu but instead we got this piece of shit

Pikachu itself is a weak pokemon so why does it need baby form

[brisk hedge]

That’s exactly why I put it in D

[boreal storm]

They should give baby form to powerfull first stage pokemon like Scyther

[brisk hedge]

Kangaskan needs a baby

[coarse estuary]

its not a single stage pokemon if it can evolve

[brisk hedge]

Scyther could still get a prevo though

[coarse estuary]

yes but calling it a single stage mon when it can evolve is like saying squirtle is a single stage mon

[boreal storm]

I change it into first stage

[timid flare]

alright full line is done

Pyrpol, Pyrog, and Pyrimitoad

-# pronounced Pyre-Pole, Pyre-Rog, and Pyre-immi-toad

[fallen osprey]

Does anyone here know where to get the game pointcrow was playing earlier this month; Pokemon:Evolved. In the Too many evolutions video?

[coarse estuary]

that is not out yet.

[fallen osprey]

oh bummer

thank you

[timid flare]

oh

right

signature move and ability

[quaint charm]

i love knockoff pokemon stuff i see at the fair

who the hell is that guy on the right. why are you here

[timid flare]

im pretty sure that's a digimon

anyways

[quaint charm]

let him be a pokemon if he wants to

[timid flare]

the line's signature ability is Amphibious

it makes water type moves

SLIGHTLY less effective on them

like
turning them from super effective to just effective

[coarse estuary]

so kinda like a water version of thick fat?

[timid flare]

ye

anyways

Pyrimitoad's signature move is Flashfire Fist

it starts rapidly spinning of it's massive arms

then on the next turn

releases a massive blow

if the opposing pokemon tries to leave the battle in any way (aside from fainting), Pyrimitoad releases a weaker version of the punch before they can

both have a chance to cause burn, the charged punch having a higher chance

my 2 friends that im working on this project with are designing the other 2 starters

each of us chose 6 types to make the gyms for

[obtuse quest]

What type did u choose

[timid flare]

hang on lemme pull up the list

fire, fighting, ground, rock, steel, and fairy

[obtuse quest]

Nice

[timid flare]

one friend chose water, psychic, ice, dragon, ghost, and dark
and the other friend chose normal, flying, grass, poison, electric, and bug

[brisk hedge]

It's a shame I can't art, otherwise I would totally make my own Pokémon region

[timid flare]

despite the types we've chose, the friend that chose to make the grass type gym is making the water starter
and the friend that chose to make the water type gym is making the grass starter

also
because amagla is canonically made out of fragments of other regions
every gimmicks CAN be used in it
but only in specific segments
PLOT SPOILER WARNING:
||inside of Inner Amagla, a large, subterranean, lush cave system, every gimmick is useable, but you can only use one per battle||

basically im trying to make Amagla cater to most pokemon fan's wants while simultaneously trying to piss them off

[brisk hedge]

Actually, I do have an idea for an evil team, though it's not fully fleshed out yet.

[unkempt egret]

if you're doing that I'd suggest throwing in a dynamax nerf for good measure lol

since it's very much intended for 4v4 doubles and no other game format rofl

the other 3 are generally fine but maybe tie dynamaxing (and tera to a lesser extent) to a held item like the other two are

[haughty sluice]

Is this a good Sprigatito for Radical Red?

[verbal pendant]

look what they did to him!

[coarse estuary]

Please spoil all za leaks real or fake so people don't get spoiled for the game if they don't want to

[verbal pendant]

oh

ah nvm

sorry btw

[coarse estuary]

All good I just like to remind people not everyone wants to know the whole games plot and all new things In the game before it's released as some people forget that

[verbal pendant]

oooh

[coarse estuary]

Yeah it's kinda like if you were going to see a movie and there was someone standing outside the theater telling you everything that happened in the movie.

[verbal pendant]

ah true yeah

like that one cutaway in family guy Peter spoiled everything

[coarse estuary]

Yeah think of it like that. Some people don't mind spoilers for za but most don't want any so forcing people to be spoiled against their will is bad

[main rune]

-# also keep in mind that rule 9 of the #rules is “No spoilers”

[visual musk]

beta sprite for the male player character (pokemon black and white)

[boreal storm]

He looks so ugly

[strange monolith]

aww too bad it's not out yet - I was wanting to play that too

[timid flare]

noted

[waxen grail]

frien

gba connectivity works too

[wanton trench]

Is that celebi or a wall

[visual musk]

I like him

[tulip hollow]

idk how but I nearly lost a pokemon shield nuzlocke to some route 2 trainer with a blipbug
maybe I shouldn't have chosen grookey and caught a zigzagoon

[unkempt egret]

lol

wait what happened to your route 1 capture?

[tulip hollow]

i forgot to catch anything on route 1

[unkempt egret]

also got the skeledirge

yeaaa might wanna go grab somethin there before the end of route 2, could be nice like a wooloo like a hoothoot

also as funny as it would have been to use tera normal magnet rise electrode that does mean taking like 4-5 shadow balls getting to tera normal

[covert fiber]

Context: this piplup saved me one day in 2019. One time i was grinding levels in sun and moon and my entire team got wiped out by a jolteon except this piplup. This piplup was low level and i was lowkey ready to close the game. Until, the jolteon used thunder and it missed and this piplup used whirlpool. By the time the turn was over, the jolteon died. Fast forward to 2025 where i remember this thing and decided to bring it back. But, there was a problem. The eshop shutdown and my 2ds didnt have it. My only choice was hacking it which sucessfully worked. After that i installed hshop and got both pokemon bank and poke transporter. But of course this didnt come for free so i had to buy the pokemon home subscription which was lowkey worth it. Anyways, after 6 long years, this piplup made it to pokemon home. Where we have finally reunited.

[covert fiber]

Tldr: piplup saved me and 6 years later i brought it back to home

I might try to reenact this if i can >.<

[waxen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-club-penguin-dance-gif-18030942

[surreal agate]

I forgot how much I loved Swampert’s Colosseum/XD/Battle Revolution model and animations.

[gaunt dust]

where can i download pokemon black and white

[coarse estuary]

?tag rule6

[ebon pond]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 6 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Resources to illegal content (ROMs, pirated movies, etc). We are sure that there are ways and means of finding these that do not involve a Pokémon Fan Game discord server.

[coarse estuary]

gen 5 down. all 6 members brought to n lived. final 6 were blastoise krookodile drifblim mienshao camerupt and emboar

[wispy osprey]

Krookodile 💪

[signal sonnet]

Am I a villian for doing this? 💔

[unkempt egret]

where problem

[viral matrix]

That's called a skill issue

[rugged comet]

hubert

[visual musk]

Herbert

[coarse estuary]

hilbert not herbert or hubert

[rugged comet]

nah its the beta, totally named hubert

[visual musk]

i wish we kept the beta design tbh

[visual musk]

ik

[jaunty trellis]

Where's the best place to download Pokémon AlteRed?

[coarse estuary]

their discord server

[timid flare]

i just had a very interesting idea for the concept for the fairy type gym leader of Amagla

the "gym leader" is a human sized wooden marionette controlled from above by the actual gym leader

[jaunty trellis]

I like it!

[jagged inlet]

Was doing a raid battle against a Chandelure and SOME HOW this did barely anything despite calculating it and this being the results

The only thing not in my favor was the sun being up

[coarse estuary]

thx mystery mod

[waxen grail]

you can see when they decided it was getting scrapped xD

[boreal storm]

Evil egg 😈😈😈

[smoky gyro]

Eg

[vapid jungle]

not sure what to do but i have completed Pokémon diamond for the ds and have nothing to do any thing that i should do (btw i dont what to shiny hunt)

i have completed the story of after heatran
and beat the elite 4 like 12 times
and completed the base game pokedex

[smoky gyro]

Play...a different game?

[vapid jungle]

but i have completed all the other Pokémon games i own

[smoky gyro]

Fan games?

[vapid jungle]

not yet

[smoky gyro]

Youre literally in the infinite fusion discord

[vapid jungle]

im starting that today

[smoky gyro]

Insurgence is good too

[obsidian oar]

i never saw any acrocanthosaurus fand made pokemon

[coarse estuary]

i have a problem idk what stater to pick for leg 6 of my genlocke because all 3 are bad choices. picking chespin would give me 3 fighting types if it fully evos because i have 2 transfering in from leg 5 fen would be 3 fire types for the same reason and froak would be bad because then id have to decide if i use that or my squirtle since ive had since leg 1. so what do i do

[wispy osprey]

if you picked Froakie could you give yourself a Battle Bond Greninja for Alola

because if so that’s the clear choice imo

[coarse estuary]

no i couldnt it would be able to be in enough legs before then to get that reward

[wispy osprey]

sad

[finite jay]

Intresting!

[queen yacht]

holy arkoos, HOW IS IT LEVEL 71?!

[covert fiber]

because i wanted to level it up without evolving

[queen yacht]

i think you went a little far but you did miss out now on some good moves the evos learn via level up so its a double regret

[covert fiber]

meh

just make a new one

[queen yacht]

f me

[covert fiber]

i would have kept it as a piplup even if jolteon didnt use thunder

cus that was my plan

[empty ingot]

https://fixvx.com/thefleeee/status/1898760072328626470

Arven following in his family's footsteps by being FUCKIN' DEAD

[waxen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/wololo-age-of-empires-empires-szaman-shaman-gif-21642450

[brisk hedge]

The demon lizard, the yaba daba doo lizard and friends

[coarse estuary]

i have a delima, since its been forever since ive done a candyless nuzlocke i wanna do the last two legs of my genlocke candyless but at the same time i dont wanna have to either risk losing mons to high leveled wilds or just spend 90% of my days playing time grinding a mon or two up on low leveled mons. what do i do

[unkempt egret]

assuming you mean rarecandyless there.

(well, EXP candy if it's gen 8/9)

imo, the candies don't really help your current mons so much, I use them much more to get new mons caught up to the rest of the team, at least in gen 8 since the main game gives enough experience, especially if you take the EXP charm that isle of armor gives you

[visual musk]

how did he do that if arceus doesint have a mouth

[fickle root]

how does arceus even make a sound in the first place if it doesn't have a mouth?

[sweet crypt]

It's mf god

It doesn't give a shit about anatomy

[fickle root]

ik

is pokemon unbound a good game?

[sick anchor]

my brothers playing it he says its amazing

[smoky gyro]

By that logic how does banette

If its lips are sealed shut

[fickle root]

fr

i was just following the logic from the person above me

still got a vocal cord

[boreal storm]

How did they eat if they don't even have mouth?

[olive onyx]

You’re questioning the logic of monsters that can be caught with a metallic ball and have magical powers for no scientific reason

[civic grove]

they just absorb it…. osmosis… idk.
i mean grass pokemon can photosynthesise so maybe some questions are best left unanswered

[fiery creek]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-gif-25434513

[pure temple]

any recommanded fanmade game? have a lot of pokemon likes 1-9th gen and lot of content if not gba rom hack is rrly good (i already play it too much 😭 )

[smoky gyro]

Are you looking for a gba rom or smth

[stable tree]

Yeah pif is a good game

Would recommend it

[pure temple]

not gba if possible

[smoky gyro]

Insurgence is good too

Its another game that you download on pc like pif

Lesson learnt, dont try to encore blood moon

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-legend-of-the-breath-gif-21461173

[smoky gyro]

I wonder if I could abuse that in doubles

Self Encore and just cause chaos with blood moon

[lucid phoenix]

Y'all wanna hear my mega ideas

[pure temple]

i try it but it seem... i dont like idk why but yeah i dont like it any other recommanded?

[smoky gyro]

Uranium

[pure temple]

i wanna try reborn too just play reju and still playing ashen frost

[smoky gyro]

Other than that my fan game knowledge is very limited

[pure temple]

alr

[smoky gyro]

Vega is my personal favorite rom with fakemons but thats a gba rom

[pure temple]

i will write it in list then thx

[stable tree]

No

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/howrude-fullhouse-gif-2143517223924959676

[stable tree]

Sorry

[stable tree]

Are you being a smart ass

[lucid phoenix]

Screw you,i'll tell you anyway

[stable tree]

Ok

[lucid phoenix]

First up mega slowking
Music please

[stable tree]

Music plays

I believeee i can flyyyyy

I believe i can touch the skyyyy

Looking at you every night and dayy

Those are prob not the lyrics

[lucid phoenix]

The discord app messed up again
Hold on,imma take it from the top

Music please

https://youtu.be/gVKO6WxBFuI?si=xf8p9YminUwSwazM

THATS RIGHT,IM GOING MASKED DEDEDE FOR THIS GUY

so the idea is the shellder expand and change shape into a full on helmet and the helmet is like a combination dedede's usual mask and forgo dedede's mask

and it gains like a scepter + hammer

[olive onyx]

Pokémon S/V sucked

Thats all

[lucid phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[unkempt egret]

was that hand like some combo of 2 gabites 2 garchomps 2 lucarios and an X speed?

[wicked briar]

Anyone with scarlet/violet trade me a misdreavus and/or gulpin for the dex?

[tight granite]

i got the gold medal on the first day so since then i havent battled anymore

kinda fun that if you manage to win 5 times right away you already win the tournament

if you lost just once then it becomes a challenge

[tight granite]

ah your playing the promo pack

that starts sucking, im glad i have every promo card now, i dont have to deal with it anymore

[unkempt egret]

speaking of medals-adjacent things

https://tenor.com/view/done-im-done-finish-family-guy-peter-griffin-gif-15564927

the main issue with the leafeon deck is that the AI can will OHKO eevee if it gets gabite + lucario ready on the turn before you evolve

which does make it funny that you can turn that around and OHKO gabite back if you also drew giant cape and the leafeon ex

now just tier 3 which shouldn't be nearly as bad without the AI being able to pull a semi-free +20 damage whenever it wants

[candid spindle]

is zigzagoon in gen 9?

cuz if so i can try to shiny hunt it

[unkempt egret]

it is not, only in gen 8

(and BDSP for the non-galar variant)

[candid spindle]

oh alr

[unkempt snow]

I finished pokemon unbound today
one of the best pokemon games I've ever played

[unkempt egret]

nice nice, farthest I got in unbound was the ground E4 member but that gimmick destroyed me even on the lowest difficulty

[candid spindle]

pokemon unbound is amazing

[unkempt snow]

so gas

ground was definitely the hardest e4

considering my team and how little I can do to ground types

ghost was hard, but metagross was still able to fight through it (despite the ghost weakness)

[unkempt egret]

I think I had pyroar so ghost wasn't too bad

[unkempt snow]

why does vikavolt have to be so slow!

you'd think they'd be faster than 100 speed at least!
NAH, they're 43!

who's faster? giant, multi ton beast made of steel (metagross)
or a lightning rail gun wasp

[unkempt egret]

I'm thinking it might me more like reaction time I guess, unless we treat the pokedex as "irrelevant unless it wants to be"

then again it does get agility...

[untold hill]

haven't touched unbound since.. idk 2021 or early 2022?

[unkempt snow]

I don't set up very often, which isn't great

belly drum hariyama would have been so strong

but I don't know how to set them up

[sweet crypt]

In Vikavolt's Defence, Mega Metagross is unironically just fast

It's actually the 3rd fastest Pseudo Legendary at 110 speed, behind Mega Salamence's 120 and Dragapult's 142

[unkempt snow]

no, not mega

just plain meta

[sweet crypt]

I know that base metagross outspeeds

I just wanted to point out that Mega Meta is actually freakishly fast

[unkempt snow]

yes

[sweet crypt]

But if we want to talk about stupid

A mammoth swine that's closer to a perfect sphere has 80 fucking speed

I mean, I'm not unhappy about it

I really like Mamoswine, and the fact that it isn't completely utterly pathetically slow is nice

Since it's an ice type and all

But you would NOT expect Mamoswine to have more than 60 speed

[unkempt snow]

it's not as bad as walrein...

with a base 43 speed

er

65

idk where I got 43 from :p

[sweet crypt]

Bro thinks Walrein is Hoennian Vikavolt

[viral matrix]

[sick anchor]

What type should I get for my team in unbound?

[brisk hedge]

Hear me out: a dark and ice type

[sweet crypt]

Yeah, Chien-Pao really is great isn't it?

[unkempt snow]

hmmm
you need some more help for fire types

and fighting types

well, not fighting types

but fire types can be very dangerous for your current team

so I'd say a water type

if you can somehow find feebas, milotic is pretty gud

[hard plume]

seconded
you have four types that can get their ass kicked by fire

some ground, rock, or water types will help you out

[dreamy bough]

oh my, they need fire resist

a bulky water should do nicely, I would think

[smoky gyro]

Sealeo isnt technically weak to fire

Cause part water

[hard plume]

the ice ain't helping the cause though

[smoky gyro]

Its a resist technically if it has thick fat

Does sealeo get thick fat? Idk

I assume it does

[hard plume]

they do

consider yourself lucky

[smoky gyro]

Big chonky thing knowing thick fat

[hard plume]

though you do need to get a ground type
you totes need that electric type immunity

[unkempt snow]

but if it's rock, then there's some extra weakness to fighting

idr if there's an electric specialist in unbound-

right, there is

[pulsar scarab]

I really like reborn, the game got accessibility features added for blind players in version 19.5

[civic grove]

ayyyy finally I pulled this fucker!

[boreal storm]

Alien cat

[coarse estuary]

rollout works

[unkempt egret]

I would say "As Intended" but knowing pokemon I wouldn't doubt the intended strat was "use pikachu"

[delicate hollow]

I hope that we get Kalosian (regional) forms for Legends Z-A just like we did in Legends Arceus

[tight ivy]

Viola is underrated

[jolly vapor]

i wonder if there is a new touhoumon hack with the new ones

[wispy osprey]

Viola’s so silly

[jolly vapor]

nvm found one wich touhou carackters up to 18 will have fun with this

[unkempt egret]

I know there's a heartgold version with some of the more recent characters

but it's also 1.8 evo levels in johto so it's a bit odd during the midgame when a lot of characters evolve in the level 30-36 range

[placid fulcrum]

I ALSO HAVE THIS GAME

☺️

No three star yet unfortunately

My fav has to be my two star mew

saving the rainbow border Gengar for my lil brother when he gets a new phone since his other one broke

[wispy osprey]

that Adamam art is hot lowk

[placid fulcrum]

for real tho

I also have some cool one star cards

[civic grove]

ayooo well the only rainbow one i have is pachirisu and i do have the nosepass and arceus gold…

But instead of pulling something elsr the game decided to give me 4 times immersive arceus, 2 times normal ex and 1 gold… i switched to apex because man i really need that luck there

[placid fulcrum]

fr

like I have a charmander and a charmeleon and NO CHARIZARD EX OF ANY KIND

[civic grove]

i have charizard ex

had to buy a charmeleon because never pulled one

[unkempt egret]

gimmie a sec

[civic grove]

so i used my pack points

[placid fulcrum]

fair tbh

anywho gonna show my one star cards

[unkempt egret]

tiss my higher tier cards

[placid fulcrum]

two star cards my beloved

[unkempt egret]

(I'd be happy to trade the other char ex if someone has the alt leafeon ex art)

[placid fulcrum]

The last of my one star cards

[civic grove]

my 1 star cards

[placid fulcrum]

AYO WE HAVE SOME OF THE SAME CARDS

[civic grove]

yup!

[placid fulcrum]

The Houndoom one is sick

[civic grove]

i love that one

and nidoqueen and nidoking

they are so cute

[placid fulcrum]

fr

[civic grove]

nidoking is just a silly goose

[placid fulcrum]

I have no Nidoran to use the nidoking unfortunately

[unkempt egret]

my 1*'s

[placid fulcrum]

VAPOREON MY BELOVED

the Shinx is so cute

[unkempt egret]

also looking for the second elder for this goofy deck

[placid fulcrum]

lol the Roto joke

Time to post my friend code because yes

0720791382620956

[unkempt egret]

it's very much a gag deck but I want the second elder to just yank another rotom from the discard pile should I need another

[placid fulcrum]

fr tho that card is op

especially if you have a basic ex

tbh my fav basic card would have to be my Eevee with continuous steps

[quaint hedge]

I'm playing Pokemon Too Many Types, and I've created a spreadsheet to keep track of all the type interactions I've run into thus far.

I may be a little involved

[placid fulcrum]

just a little bit

[unkempt egret]

we always love a good ol' spreadsheeting

[placid fulcrum]

my adhd and autism could never lol

[brisk hedge]

I'd show you my notes from when I played too many types, but I left them on my old computer

[tight ivy]

L nature

[civic grove]

I still miss a nidorina… everything else i have to play them

[waxen grail]

casual playthru so I honestly couldn't care less xD

[last egret]

You get $20,000 but you can never play any Gen 7 Pokémon games for the rest of your life

Do you accept the deal?

[waxen grail]

I just like the lil celadon city quirk in gen 3

[waxen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/no-sonny-i-robot-gif-23790834

[sweet crypt]

What is a thematic buff to a Pokemon that would be absurd competitively?

Volcarona is said to have substituted the sun on multiple occasions

Hence, it should get Drought

:)

[olive onyx]

This is kinda difficult, is the deal limited or can I choose to accept it in a couple of years aswell

[void roost]

heya i know its a weird q but can someone help me to complete my pokemon violet pokedex ? (im just missing the scarlet species)

[last egret]

You have to accept it today unless the deal is off the table

[olive onyx]

See the thing is I love Gen 7 but ill probably only play the games like 3 more times ever so I’ll go with the 20k

20k is surprisingly little though so it’s having me question

[brisk hedge]

Wait, so you’ll actually give me $20 000 dollars if I never play Gen 7 again

[olive onyx]

Yes

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/sold-ray-ray-butani-schitts-creek-ep204-gif-20106341

[civic grove]

Which ones do you need?

I have no problems to trade you i have 100% the dex so it‘s not like a need any myself but I gladly help out

[analog schooner]

Wait so is too many types good?

[void roost]

koraidon, deino or its evolutions, larvitar or its evolutions, skrelp or its evolution, stunky or its evolution and a malicious armor

oh and the paradox pokemons

ik its a lot lol

[civic grove]

gimme a hot second. i have most but gotta check my boxes

[void roost]

ok nw take your time

[civic grove]

koraidon I can trade but would like to have it back afterwards because I love my boi

[void roost]

yeah nw

im not doing a living dex

[civic grove]

goodie! Then its no problem!

i also hate when i hit the questionmark

[void roost]

thank you so much

[civic grove]

no worries

this is the second time someone needs version exclusives xD

gives me a reason to boot up the game xD

[void roost]

true lol

im completing it so i can flex on my friend cause we're shiny hunting so i wanna flex on him lol

[civic grove]

fine by me xD

i forgor that i named my waterfuck colgate…

[last egret]

Yes

[void roost]

lmaooo

i swear i should've named my starter like this too loll

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/sold-ray-ray-butani-schitts-creek-ep204-gif-20106341

Sweet, free $40 000

[civic grove]

malicious armor is what again? I may be a bit out of the loop

[void roost]

the armor to get armarouge

[civic grove]

will have to go and catch a sandy shocks again to

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-ceruledge-knight-noble-gif-3899845303892365412

[civic grove]

oh yeh… i can just trade the boi

[void roost]

sure

[civic grove]

i only gotta catch 3 pokemon and then im pretty much ready

[void roost]

thanks again choom

[civic grove]

no worries

SANDY SHOCKS GET IN THE BALL FFS

[void roost]

lmao

im not the only unluck lad with the catching rates lol

[civic grove]

Nah critical throw after two attempts

[void roost]

so forget what i said lmao

[civic grove]

last one

done

[void roost]

you're so good at catching pokemons

thanks a lot

[civic grove]

no problem im quick in scarlet

im a shiny hunter afterall xD

[void roost]

damn hope you're more lucky than me lol

[civic grove]

lets say i have a few treats for u

[void roost]

dammmn

this shiny is really beautiful

[civic grove]

and its gonna be traded to u

together with a shiny flutter mane and a shiny stunky

[void roost]

no way

you kidding right ?

[civic grove]

nah

[void roost]

i swear idk how to thank you

[civic grove]

i had like six shiny fluttermanes

[void roost]

unfortunatly for you i dont have any futur paradox shinies 😦

[civic grove]

sammiches plus herba mystica and shiny charm make it piss easy to find shinies

well yeah because i need to steal my bfs violet and start my own savefile for that

gonna ask him about that tho I do wanna play violet

[void roost]

i do think the scarlet paradox shinies are more beautiful tho

[civic grove]

some yes

[sharp narwhal]

got a question for anyone with a answer

[civic grove]

fluttermane is just shrek

[void roost]

i like this shiny lol

[civic grove]

btw throw me a dm anytime you are up for trading

you might have to make some eggs because i dont have lavitar or deino. Only the final evolutions

but thats not hard

[void roost]

no worries

you're the goat

i sent you a dm btw

[brisk hedge]

Jealous?

[void roost]

damn congrats and kinda but plan to shiny hunt them

[civic grove]

tip. use the sammich guide to make sammiches that fit what u hunt for

if u need it i throw it

[void roost]

can you send me the guide pwease ? 👉 👈 😳

[void roost]

thxxx

[civic grove]

normal one is the funniest shit ever

[void roost]

why ?

LMAOOOOOOO

[civic grove]

i build a pyramid for it to work

[void roost]

i swear

[civic grove]

btw: Cant let an ingredient slip

then you wont get the effects u aim for

so best to save before u make it and then go for it if you need to reset

[void roost]

thx for the advice

[civic grove]

herba mystica a found in tera battles

[void roost]

btw if you're ready to trade i sent you a dm

[void roost]

yup i'm farming tera battles for exp and looted some

[civic grove]

you will need it.
because combined with the shiny charm you will encounter more shinies than you are used to.
Like I love and hate it how piss easy it is in SV

also funfact for fluttermane. If you make a ghost shiny sammich during the day… only shiny fluttermane spawns in the cave section where its located

i had six of them for a reason

[void roost]

that's op as hell

[void roost]

without tryharding i think i got 8 shinies this week

[civic grove]

pretty much

i ran into my first shiny at the start of the game

I ran into a shiny mankey

[void roost]

you're lucky

[civic grove]

it evolved

[void roost]

the name lol

its a great shiny tho

[civic grove]

karen didnt get to talk to the manager
And since the pokedex entry suggest that annihalape came to be is because Primeape got so angry it died

it was only fitting

because its female

[void roost]

annihilape was to evolve tho

wanna trade ?

[civic grove]

sure!

[void roost]

lets gooo

[civic grove]

i give u koraidon first so you can then trade it back for the others

[void roost]

okay i had the same idea

do you want to choose the link code ?

[civic grove]

sure wait a sec

[tight ivy]

are you me?

[tight ivy]

Wtf with the boxes?!

#SobbleSquad

[desert coral]

https://tenor.com/view/sobble-gif-25064183

[tight ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/sobble-cute-adorable-pokemon-gif-25064275

Mfw no Cyndaquil in Z-A

[desert coral]

I can't decide between totodile and chikorita but I have time to think

[tight ivy]

Feraligatr better be a Water/Poison or Dragon type

[tight granite]

imma go fire pig

do love Meganium but ehh im sure i can see that in lets plays dont think many gonna pick tepig so best to use that on myself

definitly like them all tho

[sweet crypt]

Gen 9 OU VR update just dropped

The most significant change is Pecharunt from A- to A+, but it isn't surprising

Pecharunt has been talked about in increasingly positive light for a long time now

In other news, Kingambit is no longer ranked in S tier

The sole S tier Pokemon is now Zamazenta

Some people in another server were shocked that all of Serperior, Garchomp, Meowscarada, Dondozo, Slither Wing and Torkoal were ranked at B tier

But out of those 6, 4 of them were already ranked at B

And the 2 that weren't, Dondozo and Garchomp, dropped 1 and rose 1 respectively

[tight ivy]

another Lati rant

well, not rant per se

[sweet crypt]

I wouldn't call this a rant

That has a negative connotation

[tight ivy]

I’m just poking fun

[sweet crypt]

And I'm using a more neutral one here

[tight ivy]

[sweet crypt]

Gholdengo drops from S- to A+

The reasoning being the fact that its stats in comparison to the other high tiers are starting to stick out as poor

That said, it still blocks 3 of the more common hazard clearing options

So...

Dragonite was 1 vote away from rising to S-

Iron Moth and Raging Bolt were 1 vote away from dropping to A- and A respectively

Gliscor and Ting-Lu both rise to S-

Ninetales drops 1 subtier to B

Now tying with Torkoal

Base Ogerpon and Rillaboom also drop 1 subtier to B

They both got hit pretty hard by the rise of Pecharunt from what I've heard

Gee, I wonder why the physical grass types are struggling with the physically defensive Poison type

Iron Moth did drop a subtier btw

It was originally A+

So it almost dropping to A- was pretty big

Glimmora and Iron Crown drop from A- to B+ due to meta shifts

Ribombee also drops a subtier to B-, putting it solidly below Araquanid in B

[tight ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-taking-notes-oomfie-spy-x-family-memo-gif-8287618218761733944

[sweet crypt]

Jirachi, Vileplume and Wo-Chien fall from D to Unranked

[tight ivy]

JIRACHI

[sweet crypt]

As for the other rises, Roaring Moon rises from A to A+

[tight ivy]

Really?

[sweet crypt]

Zapdos rises from A- to A

Clefable and Corviknight rise from B+ to A-

Keldeo and Torn-T from B to B+

Washtom joins Garchomp in rising from B- to B

Amoonguss, Hydreigon and Moltres-Galar rise from C+ to B-

Torn-T rises from C to C+

Poltergeist rises from D to C

Oh also, as for new additions to the rankings

Armarouge, Breloom, Bronzong, Chesnaught, Entei and Leavanny all to D

Armarouge shares the D tier with Indeedee, making it clear that it's here for Psyspam

Not too sure about Breloom or Bronzong since I'm not a top ladder player or anything

Not sure about Chesnaught either but yknow what, it was more expected than any other grass starter

Entei is here because Sacred Fire is such an easy move to spam

And it also has Espeed

Leavanny is very obvious here for Sticky Webs

I dont even need anyone to tell me that

[waxen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/winslow-odd-fellow-walk-in-walk-out-catdog-gif-8298707

[visual musk]

i feel like elio is one of the most underated pokemon protags

[tight ivy]

ehh

Yeah, probably because he shares his name with a cardboard-tasting pizza

[dark owl]

Does whisky work with any other rom hacks

[warped jolt]

Hey random question for someone who has Violet

[tight ivy]

Yeah?

[warped jolt]

Do you have a Palafin, that I would trade right back?

[tight ivy]

Oh, that kind of question. I’m off to bed now

You’ll have to find someone else to trade with. Sorry.

[warped jolt]

No it's fine thank you

[smoky gyro]

Unaware aint helping you from your own stat drops

[hot plinth]

Ngl I’m trying to find another Pokémon fan game like Infiniti fusion

[olive onyx]

Asides his shoes hell yeah

[silk mason]

oh god his shoes

why do they look like that

how did i never notice

[unkempt egret]

shoes you intend to wear underwater

[silk mason]

they feel like a hatecrime

[timid flare]

I HAVE DESIGNED MOVESETS AND POKEDEX ENTRIES FOR THE PYRPOL LINE

[hallow tendon]

anyone like the team so far?

[visual musk]

Yes

[tight ivy]

Cyndaquil, Oddish and Onix?

It's below sub-par

[coarse estuary]

if you like it use it, dont allow anyone to tell you what you should or shouldnt use but be ok if someone is like x out of 6 in your team is weak to whatever i suggest gettin a move or mon to help ballance the weakness out

[hallow tendon]

I was thinking about Getting a Gastly if possible from the Bellsprout Tower, Can you do that In Gen 2 or is that only in HGSS?

[coarse estuary]

you can, its 85% at night

[hallow tendon]

Thanks. I'll probably get that

[coarse estuary]

ok im takin a break from my genlocke to do a wedlocke, what are some recommendaitons on games i should wedlocke

[frank lily]

Forgot to show him off on Tuesday but I got him from the spotlight hour

[unkempt egret]

nice nice

roselia was actually the very first shiny I got in GO way back when I first started playing

had decent stats too so I sometimes still use her against rockets or raids

[waxen grail]

I watched a video on the company that now owns PoGo and all I can say is o7 to PoGo fans

[tawdry lark]

Does anyone have a shiny Treecko in Pokémon Home? I'll trade this abomination for it.

[tight granite]

can you even use that in anything other then legends?

[brisk hedge]

It can also be transferred to Scarlet and Violet

[sweet crypt]

I dont get the clickbait videos of "Which Pokemon hits the hardest?" Testing a Pokemon based on how hard they can thrash a baby

[unkempt egret]

this card is so dumb lol

[sweet crypt]

We should test them against neutral target Emax Eternatus that'd be funny

Everyone can punt a baby

But not everyone can punt Eternamax Eternatus

252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Tera Ghost Basculegion Last Respects vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 7207-8480 (1009.3 - 1187.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Rock Shuckle Rollout vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 2108-2482 (295.2 - 347.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Flash Fire Tera Fire Heatran Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Sun: 478-564 (66.9 - 78.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Tera Water Dracovish Fishious Rend (170 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Rain: 422-498 (59.1 - 69.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Sun: 378-446 (52.9 - 62.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Rain: 356-420 (49.8 - 58.8%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Sheer Force Tera Fire Darmanitan Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Sun: 350-414 (49 - 57.9%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Fire Victini V-create vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Sun: 320-378 (44.8 - 52.9%) -- 27.3% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Psychic Deoxys-Attack Psycho Boost vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax: 254-300 (35.5 - 42%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Grass Kartana Solar Blade vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 228-270 (31.9 - 37.8%) -- 93.5% chance to 3HKO
Now see, something fucking ridiculous like all these Pokemon fighting Eternamax Eternatus with Basculegion and Shuckle leading the charge would make for some engaging thumbnail, not just kicking a baby with "1027942894759272019" on the screen

(Eternatus' type was changed to ??? For the purpose of getting these calcs to not give a shit about type matchups)

If you're wondering where the other Last Respects users fit into this, here:
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Ghost Houndstone Last Respects vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 5972-7028 (836.4 - 984.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Tera Ghost Basculin-White-Striped Last Respects vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 5612-6604 (785.9 - 924.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Don't ask why, but Last Respects only caps at 100 allies fainted

Raising BP by 50 each time, and with a base BP of 50

Hence these fuckers get a 5050 BP move

Rage Fist maxes at 350 which, while nowhere near 5050...
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Ghost Annihilape Rage Fist vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 452-534 (63.3 - 74.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
... is more than enough to get it onto the board

[unkempt egret]

assuming we're ignoring the glitch about etern's defense underflowing? I forget how that works and I wouldn't doubt a 5050 power move somehow bypassing that

the unstoppable force vs the immovable shield

[sweet crypt]

The underflow is not reflected on the calculator

And I'm not sure if that means it has been patched out in Gen 9

Or if the calc can't be bothered

Also, it isn't even an underflow

It's an overflow

Underflow is going so low it goes high

[unkempt egret]

thanks my bad

but interesting to see a full list

[sweet crypt]

The only other mons I could see breaking Eternatus down in 1 hit are other 5 turns Defence Curl Rollout users

I want to note that getting a Choice Band onto one would mean you need to trick it on with a teammate

So by that logic we should be allowed to use Follow Me

[unkempt egret]

actually you disregarded type matchups but I'm wondering about walrein's ice ball

[sweet crypt]

Which pushes quite a few more of these Pokemon over the edge

[unkempt egret]

since you mention other rollout users

[sweet crypt]

Is Ice Ball boosted by Defence Curl?

[unkempt egret]

(assuming we aren't talking crazy stuff like somehow giving a rampardos rollout)

[tight ivy]

Lati, you seem like a walking Pokéncyclopedia. Name all the Pokémon in NatDex order without cheating

[unkempt egret]

not sure? I'll check

[sweet crypt]

No thanks lmao

[tight ivy]

awww

What is Bidoof’s BST?

[sweet crypt]

I could maybe name all of them out of order if given enough time

[sweet crypt]

I definitely cannot remember most Pokemon's exact BSTs

[unkempt egret]

huh

[tight ivy]

Base stat total

[unkempt egret]

apparently defense curl does work with ice ball and it got some more users of it (A-slash and Lugg)

[sweet crypt]

Avalugg is a good one actually

It has quite a decent chunk of attack

[unkempt egret]

--> hustle delibird with it

[sweet crypt]

If only it had Power Trick

[unkempt egret]

dunno if that's worth calc'ing but cutting the accuracy even further is hilarious

power trick and 230 defense yea

[sweet crypt]

Damn, Avalugg doesn't learn Defence Curl

Unfortunate

The hardest hitting Ice Ball Defence Curl user should be Alolan Sandslash with base 100 Attack

252+ Atk Choice Band Sandslash-Alola Ice Ball vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 846-996 (118.4 - 139.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
It just barely does enough

[sweet crypt]

But yeah, allowing Banded Defence Curl Rollout and Ice Ball mons means there's 0 reason not to allow Helping Hand. This pushes Heatran to be a guaranteed OHKO and Dracovish to be a potential OHKO

[sweet crypt]

Oh I forgot Tera here lmfao

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Ice Sandshrew-Alola Ice Ball vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 938-1104 (131.3 - 154.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
This is how I found out

[sweet crypt]

Oh right Annihilape also makes it with Helping Hand lmao

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Ice Poliwag Helping Hand Ice Ball vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 843-993 (118 - 139%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Poliwag is the weakest user of Ice Ball when including Spheal's STAB

How low can we push this?

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Rock Cleffa Helping Hand Rollout vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 628-741 (87.9 - 103.7%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

That's how low we can push it

The next weakest Defence Curl Rollout user is Togepi, who...
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Rock Togepi Helping Hand Rollout vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 588-693 (82.3 - 97%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
... Barely misses the OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Rock Happiny Rollout vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 306-361 (42.8 - 50.5%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO
The fact that Happiny makes it this high says a lot though, this is higher than the highest Attack and SpA Pokemon that can hold items, Kartana and Deo-A

However, I missed something out with Deoxys

And Kartana too for that matter

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Grass Kartana Solar Blade vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Grassy Terrain: 296-350 (41.4 - 49%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Psychic Deoxys-Attack Psycho Boost vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Psychic Terrain: 328-388 (45.9 - 54.3%) -- 53.1% chance to 2HKO

I missed out their Terrains

(Psycho Boost actually does more than Expanding Force here btw)

252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Electric Xurkitree Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Electric Terrain: 320-378 (44.8 - 52.9%) -- 27.3% chance to 2HKO
This is the only Rising Voltage/Expanding Force user sent over the 50% mark by this, though

252+ SpA Choice Specs Transistor Tera Electric Regieleki Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Electric Terrain: 280-330 (39.2 - 46.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Regieleki may have made it if Transistor hadn't been nerfed, but I'm too lazy to check

How about Pokemon infamous for being broken?

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Electro Ball (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Electric Terrain: 378-446 (52.9 - 62.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Miraidon needs Eternamax to have its speed severely debuffed to make it over 50% without Helping Hand

252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Psychic Calyrex-Shadow Expanding Force (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Psychic Terrain: 264-312 (36.9 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Rayquaza-Mega Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax: 177-208 (24.7 - 29.1%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO
Neither Calyrex nor Mega Rayquaza make it, Mega Rayquaza's inability to use any other regional gimmick in Showdown is hurting it in these calcs (Implemented as such since Mega Rayquaza was unable to use Z Crystals)

252+ SpA Choice Specs Fairy Aura Tera Fairy Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax: 180-214 (25.2 - 29.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Even if Misty Terrain buffed Fairy moves, Xerneas would still fall short

252+ Atk Choice Band Orichalcum Pulse Tera Fire Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Sun: 262-310 (36.6 - 43.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
And Koraidon's lack of a Fire type prevents it from getting the KO on Eternatus

Based on previous calcs I have done, there are at least 5 fire types capable of doing more than 50% that I haven't mentioned yet

Well, 4

Since Heatran is already there

I remembered around that number of Fire types outdamaging Chi-Yu

252+ Atk Choice Band Quark Drive Tera Electric Iron Hands Supercell Slam vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Electric Terrain: 252-298 (35.2 - 41.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Protosynthesis Tera Fire Gouging Fire Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Sun: 306-360 (42.8 - 50.4%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO
The strongest abuser of Quark Drive, Iron Hands, is unable to break 50% while the strongest abuser of Protosynthesis, Gouging Fire, barely makes it

+1 252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Fairy Zacian Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 180-214 (25.2 - 29.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Pre nerf base Zacian is incapable of making it btw, and by this I know it's pointless calcing Zacian Crowned

... Except

Does Eternamax count as a Dynamaxed Pokemon?

[mighty thunder]

Yes

[sweet crypt]

+1 252+ Atk Tera Steel Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 346-408 (48.4 - 57.1%) -- 91.8% chance to 2HKO
Here, I doubled Behemoth Blade's Power

If Eternamax is coded as a Dynamaxed Pokemon, theoretically, Zacian with its pre nerf stats can nearly always 2HKO Eternamax Eternatus

+1 252+ Atk Tera Steel Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 316-372 (44.2 - 52.1%) -- 14.8% chance to 2HKO
Even with the post nerf stats, it could breach 50%

However, I'm worried that Eternamax is not directly coded as a Dynamax mon

Because if they need to double its damage against Dmax mons, then they'd set the flag to the state of being Dynamaxed

Not specifically Gigantamax forms and Eternamax Eternatus

That's the main concern here

If we Dynamax Eternamax Eternatus to emulate how you'd encounter it in game

Then its HP also doubles

And Zacian's damage remains unchanged in terms of percentage

Unfortunately, I don't think Zacian could do over 50% to Eternamax for this reasoning

252+ Atk Choice Band Gorilla Tactics Tera Fire Darmanitan-Galar Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Sun: 303-357 (42.4 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
Due to Darmanitan Galar's lack of STAB on Flare Blitz and weaker STAB move (especially due to the weather boost), it is incapable of outdamaging base Darmanitan. However, it is still barely capable of doing 50% to Eternamax

252+ Atk Choice Band Iron Fist Tera Steel Melmetal Double Iron Bash (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 224-264 (31.3 - 36.9%) -- approx. 73.5% chance to 3HKO
Even if Iron Fist gave the same boost as Technician or Strong Jaw, Melmetal still doesn't make it without Helping Hand

... Unless its teammate has like, Steely Spirit, or Battery, or Sword of Ruin

But you get the point

252+ Atk Choice Band Guts Tera Normal Ursaluna Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 314-370 (43.9 - 51.8%) -- 11.7% chance to 2HKO
This is the only Guts user capable of breaching 50%

... Well, all except one that I can think of that may be able to do it

252+ Atk Choice Band Guts Tera Fire Flareon Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Sun: 384-452 (53.7 - 63.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
For once, Flareon's Fire type actually helps it on its main set

And gives it the damage boost it needs to be one of 2 Guts users to do enough damage to 2HKO Eternatus, despite being the worst one

It is also a Flash Fire mon

252+ Atk Choice Band Flash Fire Tera Fire Flareon Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Sun: 384-452 (53.7 - 63.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

A large amount of which have the firepower needed to reach the threshold

252+ SpA Choice Specs Torrent Tera Water Inteleon Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Rain: 340-402 (47.6 - 56.3%) -- 82.4% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Torrent Tera Water Primarina Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Rain: 342-404 (47.8 - 56.5%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Torrent Tera Water Quaquaval Wave Crash vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Rain: 362-426 (50.7 - 59.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Believe it or not, these 3 were the only other Water types I found that were capable of breaching 50%. Not even Wave Crash Palafin was able to breach it, falling short by about .3%

If Araquanid had Wave Crash, it'd be able to do enough damage

[wispy osprey]

Let’s go Flareon

[sweet crypt]

252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Tera Grass Breloom Bullet Seed (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Grassy Terrain: 350-420 (49 - 58.8%) -- approx. 65.6% chance to 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Overgrow Tera Grass Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Grassy Terrain: 322-380 (45 - 53.2%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
If you couldn't tell, I am primarily checking Pokemon with boosting Abilities that can be boosted by outside sources

252+ SpA Choice Specs Analytic Tera Electric Magnezone Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Electric Terrain: 336-396 (47 - 55.4%) -- 74.2% chance to 2HKO
I actually missed Magnezone out earlier! I forgot it had Analytic

252+ SpA Choice Specs Analytic Tera Electric Magneton Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Electric Terrain: 316-374 (44.2 - 52.3%) -- 19.1% chance to 2HKO
Even Magneton has the damage needed to do over 50%

252+ SpA Choice Specs Protosynthesis Tera Electric Raging Bolt Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Electric Terrain: 350-412 (49 - 57.7%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO
I also forgot to apply Tera on Raging Bolt earlier, so here's my ammendment

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Tera Electric Heliolisk Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax: 340-402 (47.6 - 56.3%) -- 82.4% chance to 2HKO

This is almost definitely the lowest you can go in terms of SpA for Rising Voltage, even with the boosting abilities

[wispy osprey]

I assume you tried Bellibolt already?

[sweet crypt]

So these Pokemon join Xurkitree in getting the damage they need from Rising Voltage in Eterrain

[sweet crypt]

It doesn't have Rising Voltage, but with Electromorphosis, it's worth trying

In fact, if I'm allowing Defence Curl Banded Rollout, I probably should allow Choiced Charge

Which would push a lot of Electric types over the edge

So just keep that in mind

Since, like with the Fire types, I can't be bothered naming ALL of them

252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Electric Bellibolt Thunder vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Electric Terrain: 344-406 (48.1 - 56.8%) -- 89.1% chance to 2HKO
Even with Charge doubling Thunder's BP, Bellibolt almost fails to make it

So what exactly does Charge change?

Well, most of the Electric types could now deal 50%

Ofc, you'd have to trick the choice item to yourself, but still

I'll mention 2 in particular though: Miraidon and Luxray
Earlier, I came to the conclusion that Miraidon can't get the 2HKO without facing a heavily slowed Emax and using Electro Ball

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Electric Terrain: 460-542 (64.4 - 75.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Now, it doesn't even need a Modest Nature or Thunder to do over 3/4

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Thunder vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Electric Terrain: 554-652 (77.5 - 91.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
This will probably be the closest to KOing Eternamax in one hit that doesn't actually do so

Luxray is mentioned because I said earlier than only Ursaluna and Flareon can do over 50% in terms of Guts Pokemon

252+ Atk Choice Band Guts Tera Electric Luxray Wild Charge vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Electric Terrain: 468-552 (65.5 - 77.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
And now, it easily hits the hardest out of them all

The only Expanding Force user I could find that could deal enough damage apart from Deoxys Attack doesn't even use Expanding Force to do so
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Psychic Armarouge Expanding Force (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Psychic Terrain: 214-254 (29.9 - 35.5%) -- 30.5% chance to 3HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Flash Fire Tera Fire Armarouge Armor Cannon vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax in Sun: 374-440 (52.3 - 61.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Armarouge is just one of the many Flash Fire users capable of breaking past Eternatus

252+ Atk Choice Band Pure Power Tera Fighting Medicham High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 226-266 (31.6 - 37.2%) -- 85.6% chance to 3HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Tera Water Azumarill Liquidation vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax in Rain: 200-236 (28 - 33%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
If Pure/Huge Power users had existent offensive stats and a held item slot while being able to terastalise, they'd actually be possibly on this list

However, they'd have to be like the 2nd coming of Rampardos to do so without being batshit broken

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Rock Rampardos Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 254-300 (35.5 - 42%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Speaking of Rampardos, it actually outdamages all of them due to its absurdly high base attack being higher than Azumarill's effective attack of ~150 and its STAB of choice, Head Smash, being extremely powerful

That said, I may or may not have forgotten a move that could be pivotal in multiple Pokemon I've already taken a look at, including Medicham

And that's Focus Punch

For Medicham in particular, I think the most it's changing is the comparison with Rampardos

252+ Atk Choice Band Pure Power Tera Fighting Medicham Focus Punch vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 260-306 (36.4 - 42.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO (It does!)

But for something like Koraidon or Conkeldurr, this could be their big break

252+ Atk Choice Band Guts Tera Fighting Heracross Focus Punch vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 310-366 (43.4 - 51.2%) -- 5.9% chance to 2HKO
Heracross is officially the weakest Guts user to be able to do over 50% to Eternatus, anything above it that is a Fighting type with Focus Punch can do it (AKA Machamp and Conkeldurr)

252+ Atk Choice Band Orichalcum Pulse Tera Fighting Koraidon Focus Punch vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 292-344 (40.8 - 48.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Koraidon is almost capable of breaching 50%, but can't do it

Seeing I've thrown away all semblance of viability away for the calcs, let's calc Explosion and Misty Explosion

[waxen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/psp1g-what-gif-23713811

[sweet crypt]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Fairy Aura Tera Fairy Xerneas Misty Explosion (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Eternatus-Eternamax: 284-336 (39.7 - 47%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Well that's a no go

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Normal Silvally Explosion vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 284-336 (39.7 - 47%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Normal Landorus-Therian Explosion vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 288-339 (40.3 - 47.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Darn it

+1 252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Normal Genesect Explosion vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 375-442 (52.5 - 61.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Genesect makes it if it downloads an Attack boost though

Ignore how it instantly dies as soon as it clicks Explosion

At this point my only limitation is if it is possible to use the move

If it is, fuck it, I'm calcing it

[unkempt egret]

shame you can't tera twice otherwise I would have joked about same-turn revival blessing

[sweet crypt]

252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Tera Normal Maushold Population Bomb (10 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eternatus-Eternamax: 320-380 (44.8 - 53.2%) -- approx. 18% chance to 2HKO

Simply land 20 PopBomb hits in a row

And high roll

So that's pretty much everything I can think of covering

Including the unnamed Sun and Charge abusers

[sweet crypt]

I have made the final comprehensive list

All Pokemon that I found that could OHKO a 252/252/252 bulk investment Eternamax on a neutral hit. Choice item and Tera are applied wherever applicable. For repeating cases, they are only shown if they do something unique or are the strongest/weakest of their class
Basculegion (Adaptability Max Last Respects)
Houndstone (Max Last Respects)
Basculin White Striped (Adaptability Max Last Respects)
Shuckle (Power Trick DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Ursaluna (Guts DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Ursaring (Guts DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Zangoose (Toxic Boost DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Flapple (Hustle DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Great Tusk (Protosynthesis DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Golem/Alolem (DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Iron Treads (Quark Drive DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Alolan Sandslash (DCurl Turn 5 Ice Ball)
Azumarill (Huge Power DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Groudon (DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Swampert (DCurl Turn 5 Ice Ball)
Miraidon (Charge Hadron Engine Max Power Electro Ball)
Marill/Azurill (DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
(Guaranteed KO cutoff)
Heliolisk (Solar Power Charge Eterrain Rising Voltage)
Magnezone (Analytic Charge ETerrain Rising Voltage)
Spheal (DCurl Turn 5 Ice Ball)
Mega Metagross (DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Xurkitree (Charge ETerrain Rising Voltage)
(Helping Hand cutoff)
Porygon-Z (Download SpA Charge Max Power Electro Ball)
Regieleki (Transistor Charge Eterrain Rising Voltage)
Poliwag (DCurl Turn 5 Ice Ball)
Zekrom (Charge Eterrain Bolt Strike)
Magnemite (Analytic Charge ETerrain Rising Voltage)
Mega Swampert (DCurl Turn 5 Ice Ball)
Mega Salamence (DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Luxray (Guts Charge Eterrain Supercell Slam)
Heatran (Flash Fire Sun Eruption)
Iron Thorns (Quark Drive Charge Eterrain Supercell Slam)
Helioptile (Solar Power Charge Eterrain Rising Voltage)
(Guaranteed Helping Hand cutoff)
Shuckle (DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Mega Camerupt (DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Typhlosion (Flash Fire Sun Eruption)
Cleffa (DCurl Turn 5 Rollout)
Dracovish (Strong Jaw Rain Fishious Rend)
Jolteon (Charge Eterrain Rising Voltage)

For the record, Cleffa outdamaged Dracovish by .3%