other-pokemon-games

[sweet crypt]

At least Stall players have the endgoal of winning

I can respect that

There's no idea of winning behind ReviveCats

[whole jewel]

Honestly, I would never enter a competetion with the intent to win. :I

[sweet crypt]

You just stall for 1000 turns

[whole jewel]

Though I'd also be playing in something with PP on, so no 1000 turns.

[sweet crypt]

It's a good thing Assist got dexited

[sweet crypt]

There is just running multiple liepards with Leppa Berries

[whole jewel]

Oh, no, I'm looking for ways to annoy sweats in Cobblemon. :v

[sweet crypt]

And Assist has a lot of PP

Though tbf, I don't think it'd reach 1000

Probably closer to 700

[whole jewel]

I'm a menace because I know I can't win either way. 😛

Not to mention, you get clauses put in place by annoying enough people with them. 😄

[sweet crypt]

Honestly I feel like if they did add Assist to Gen 9, they'd have made it incompatible with Revival Blessing

Alas, it wasn't added to Gen 9

Maybe they should've added it so that they could make those 2 incompatible

It is what it is

Prankster is very important to this strat since otherwise you just send out some fast mon to wipe out the cats

[whole jewel]

Add it specifically to nerf it? XD

[sweet crypt]

Before they can even use Revival Blessing

[sweet crypt]

Yes

An entire tier was removed from the ladder

It may as well not exist

Nothing should have the power to do that

But at least you get to joke about Liepard being one of the most broken Pokemon ever

But I mean, it does have like

2 viable checks

[whole jewel]

Roar/whirlwind juggling enemies with traps set. Is another fun way to annoy people. I don't think there's a clause for forced switching yet. 🤔

[sweet crypt]

And a bunch of unviable ones

[sweet crypt]

Those have negative priority

Like, -4 I believe?

All moves that force a switch have very negative priority

[whole jewel]

Yeah, but Cobblemon also has custom stuff that could make it more annoying. I'd need to do more research there.

[sweet crypt]

Since Prankster is a +1, they'd still be too slow to continue spamming

And iirc, they should not work with Prankster Assist

[whole jewel]

That reminds me... Did PIF change teleport's priority? I swear it's not negative priority in PIF...

[sweet crypt]

Mb forgot the important part of the sentence there

[sweet crypt]

Are you using it to pivot?

[whole jewel]

No, an abra used it on me.

Or, against me.

[sweet crypt]

Oh alright

Yeah before Let's Go, Teleport didn't have negative priority iirc

[whole jewel]

I thought it always did.

[sweet crypt]

Teleport gained negative priority alongside its pivoting capabilities in Let's Go

Damn, Abra has 90 speed

That's pretty fast for a 1st stage

[whole jewel]

Ah, okay.

[sweet crypt]

I mean it's still pretty slow overall but more so like slightly under average slow

And not like dogshit speed slow

[whole jewel]

90 is goodra's speed, so I'd say it's decent for a first stage.

[sweet crypt]

For reference, Ho-Oh, Groudon, Kyogre, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Zekrom and Reshiram all have 90 speed

It's pretty slow overall

But for a 1st stage, that's fast

Yes, these box arts are pretty slow

Also mb

Didn't mean to include Palkia there

It actually has 100 speed

Rayquaza and Kyurem have 95

Iirc Lugia has 110

[whole jewel]

Yeah, I was gonna say, you're comparing abrahms tank to caughing baby and coughing baby is competing. XD

[sweet crypt]

The thing is, the older gen box arts are, as I said earlier

Mildly under average

In terms of speed

But for a 1st stage, definitely a good speed stat

Xerneas and Yveltal were like, 99?

And Solgaleo and Lunala were like 97

[whole jewel]

Probably to counter that they were so strong. Then you have Goodra, with below average speed, attack, special attack, and defense. :I

[sweet crypt]

NDM and NDW are 77, I think???

[whole jewel]

Can you tell my favorite psuedo yet?

[sweet crypt]

Ultra Necrozma is uhhh

127?

Maybe?

I think both Kyurem White and Black are same speed as Kyurem at 95

I know Zygarde 50% is base 100

I cannot remember the other 2 form's speeds

Arceus is 120, that I remember

I refuse to include Suicune while talking about box art legendaries

[whole jewel]

Fair. I actually have no clue how much 100% buffs it.

[sweet crypt]

It's mainly HP

And a shitton of it too

[whole jewel]

So it's just built-in g-max. 😛

[sweet crypt]

Basically yeah

In fact, I'm pretty sure it is exactly double of Zygarde's base HP, though it wouldn't be double its overall HP

Since EVs and IVs make stuff like that a bit more complicated than just ×2

It's why Azumarill hits as hard as base Rayquaza

[whole jewel]

Man, zygarde got done so dirty. Before 100% it may as well have no ability, and it didn't even get any story in either of the games it was in normally. :I

[sweet crypt]

Zacian and Zamazenta are very fast

Somehow Zacian gains speed after donning heavy armour and a massive sword

Iirc, it is at 148

[whole jewel]

Jeez, fast dog.

[sweet crypt]

I think Zama-C is like, 128?

And the 2 base dogs are 138?

I cant remember for sure I'll check real quick

Yeah 138 for the bases

And both Crowned forms are correct

Eternatus for whatever reason has 130 speed

It is DECEPTIVELY fast

[whole jewel]

Zacian is faster than the lightning cat. That's a pretty fast dog. XP

[whole jewel]

Oh, wow.

[sweet crypt]

Like if there was any recent legendary with the BST in the ranges of 660-700 to have 90 Speed

I would've thought it to be Eternatus

But no, it is very fast

Very bulky too

Damage is slightly under average though, at 145 (most of the box arts without boosting abilities are at 150)

But like

Still

Eternamax Eternatus actually loses SpA

But not speed for some reason?

Wouldn't have lowering speed to raise the other stats made more sense than lowering the SpA instead?

Calyrex Shadow has 150 speed

Calyrex Ice has like, 50

Slow bulky Ice type

But this one is actually good

It's a miracle

Miraidon and Koraidon have 135 Speed

Anyways that's all the speed stats of box arts I could think of

With some probably wrong info

Anyways, fun fact

Huge Power doesn't actually double Attack

[whole jewel]

Hmm. I wonder what stats Calyrex's water form is gonna have in Delta...

[sweet crypt]

It actually doubles the BP of your physical moves

This makes 0 difference apart from the moves Body Press and Photon Geyser

And I think Shell Side Arm too

The first of these moves is physical but doesn't use Attack, yet it will get boosted

The latter 2 can scale off Attack, but shouldn't get boosted

[whole jewel]

Damn. My dreams of body press huge power Garganacl/Azumaril in Pokerogue are dead now. 😛

[sweet crypt]

Though, I'm not actually sure on those

Because Huge Power's boosted moves aren't well documented

Because yknow

It claims to double Attack

And not the damage of physical moves

I'd have to test if it works with Photon Geyser and Shell Side Arm

But the reason I think it may not work is because though they can scale off physical attack

They are listed as special

Once again though, I'll have to test that

But apart from that, there is 0 difference in boosting the raw Attack stat and boosting physical moves

[whole jewel]

And Body Press has no listed power, and is based on defense, so...

[sweet crypt]

There is a difference to doubling raw Attack and/or physical moves and doubling the base Attack

[sweet crypt]

It has a listed power, at 80

And scales off defence

So it basically would be 160 BP

Another way of imagining it

[whole jewel]

Oh, does it? Hmm. For some reason I thought it had a dash for the power.

[sweet crypt]

Is doubling your Defence stat specifically for the Body Press calculation

[whole jewel]

I run a body press H. Goodra for raids in gen 9, so you'd think I'd know that. XP

[sweet crypt]

But for reference, 50 base Attack with Huge Power would go up to 432 Attack if using the doubling Attack format

[whole jewel]

o.o

[sweet crypt]

A Pokemon with base 100 Attack goes up to 328

This is because Huge Power doubles the stats from both EVs and IVs, while doubling base Attack does not

Also I calculated wrong

[sweet crypt]

This is actually 436 attack

For reference, base 150 Attack (Groudon, Rayquaza, Zekrom) goes up to 438

You have 2 less effective attack than Groudon, Rayquaza and Zekrom

Mega Mawile's effective Attack is 678

With 105 base Attack

A theoretical Pokemon with 255 Attack goes up to 669

Moral of the story: Huge Power is fucking broken

[whole jewel]

No wonder the only pokemon that get it aren't very good. >.>;

Belly drum huge power azumaril would be terrifying if you could survive long enough to use it.

[sweet crypt]

If they gave Huge Power to a Pokemon with good Speed and even the slightest amount of attack stat, the only thing that would be able to hold it back is type and movepool

[whole jewel]

Huge power shuckle

[wet geode]

hey guys any good rom hacks with cynthia being one of the boss? tysm guys

[smoky gyro]

Gonna play gen 5, pick the starter for me

[boreal storm]

Female Shiny Snivy with secret ability and perfect iv

[smoky gyro]

And adamant for bonus points

Lmao

[sweet crypt]

The only bonus points you get for Adamant on a Contrary Snivy are pity points

[smoky gyro]

You cant get HA snivy from the starter gift anyways

[sweet crypt]

Simply edit save files frfr

Definitely not just a silly suggestion that gentar was joking about

Surely not

Anyways that aside, I've heard Emboar has the best performance of the Gen 5 starters

Otherwise, just pick the one you like the most

[smoky gyro]

I like all of them tbh

[smoky gyro]

This is such a cool little detail

Look at Cheren pose

He just stands normally outside of this intro sequence

[coarse estuary]

brawly down but it came with the loss of my starter combusken because makuhita hit a 3 arm thrust that crit twice

[unkempt egret]

sorry to make a snark but I see you're starting gen 7 early with the bloom

also rip on the starter but glad to see that you made it through.

I don't think I've actually used blaziken in a run before since outside of randos it's only in hoenn right?

I think they're also in one of the gen 7 games via island scan but I forget which

checks* ultras

base SM only has johto (island 1) and unova (island 4) while US/UM has one per island (Kanto on island 1, Hoenn on island 2, Sinnoh on island 3, and Kalos on island 4)

[coarse estuary]

i dont even know what that means so i cant call you for bein a snark lol

[unkempt egret]

was remembering how playing gen 7 at night results in a lot of blight bloom during some of the cutscenes

[coarse estuary]

ah. ok ok. as long as you arent one of the people who are like "id comment on it if you acually gave me somethin to see" or somethin just because the glare was bad

[unkempt egret]

yea I can make out the details there you're good

I think level 18's generally what I go to for brawly but it's been so long lol

[coarse estuary]

level 18 is the cap so i couldnt go past that

[proven geyser]

oh yeah, it's modern emerald time

parasect isn't viable i just think she's neat :)

and desperately needs a nature change

[boreal storm]

The Parasect looks like he's trying to say hi

[proven geyser]

shes just silly

silly mushroom piloting a crab <3

[sweet crypt]

If Parasect isn't Grass type anymore, wouldn't that imply that Shroomish shouldn't be Grass type either?

[proven geyser]

how?

the point of parasect is that the mushroom is inherently parasitic, the dev just chose to replace grass over bug

tho parasect's host hasn't stopped being a bug tbf

[sweet crypt]

The grass was representing the mushroom

So if mushroom=/=grass type

Then Shroomish=/= grass type

I mean, if you replaced bug, you could maybe excuse it by saying that the bug itself is already dead or something like that

While still having the grass type represent the mushroom

Replacing Grass with Ghost would be fine ig if you changed Paras' type to either pure Bug or Bug/Ghost

That way you can say the type only refers to the bug

[proven geyser]

consider: it doesn't matter

also mushrooms aren't plants regardless, so pokemon has gotten it wrong entirely

[sweet crypt]

Yeah, so what type does Shroomish become?

That's the entire thing I'm getting at

[proven geyser]

and the point doesn't matter

[sweet crypt]

Breloom at the very least has a secondary type

OK but it's fun to nitpick

[proven geyser]

it's mostly annoying tbh

no offense

or maybe im just too tired, that was a lil left field of me sorry

[sweet crypt]

It's alright, dw

I just really, REALLY like randomly pointing out stuff that doesn't make sense and poking fun at it (I don't actually hate it unless it is really, REALLY just unjustifiable. I actually do see reasoning for making it Bug/Ghost)

(I will never not be confused as to why people think Luxray makes sense as a dark type)

(Also from a purely game balance standpoint Bug/Ghost Parasect is AMAZING idea because Bug/Grass is really hot garbage)

[tight ivy]

DRY SKIN

[coarse estuary]

use lotion

[proven geyser]

let's fucking go 8x weakness

[shell oak]

It becomes ghost, duh. /s

[brazen wing]

pokemon rejuvenation is absolutely goated

harsh level caps combined with easy ways to level up is a great combo

because replacing pokemon is super easy unlike in mainline games

[gusty umbra]

i hate spearow so much

[tiny maple]

Why the birb hate?

What did it do?

It just birb

[gusty umbra]

i have been looking for one

in S/M

for 10 FUCKIN MINUTES

ITS A 40% RATE

NOTHING

I JUST WANNA TRADE IT FOR THE HAWLUCHA

[tiny maple]

Yeah that tends to happen for the pokemon you haven't caught before

[gusty umbra]

i have caught a solid 3 pokemon

and one was only cause i wanted fake out

OH GOD HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO TAKE

i legit got 3 pichu in a row before and cant get ONE SPEAROW

[sweet crypt]

"Unfortunate" doesn't begin to describe that

Really, this game rewards blind luck and nothing el This joke has run its course

[gusty umbra]

FINALLY

found one

are you kidding me

the wiki stated you trade spearow for HAWLUCHA

not machop

bruh

[brazen wing]

i think you can catch hawluchas on route 3

that might only be for usum though

[coarse estuary]

Only if you are playing usum is the trade for a Hawlucha

[brisk hedge]

Oh my Arceus, I got a Buneary from level 12 to level 38, with the soothe bell, and I gave it a massage and it still doesn’t have a single heart on the Poketch friendship checker app.
HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😡

[glad gust]

Does this glitter mean it's a shiny?

[lusty iris]

Yea

[glad gust]

Oh

Thnx

[unkempt egret]

welcome to starting friendship being a flat 0 compared to the average of 70 and the end goal of 180 (or 220?)

"this do be a watership down moment" ~wild buneary

[brisk hedge]

Honestly, I should just transfer one in from Legends Arceus

God I hate Lopunny

[warm quail]

can someone help me with this...?

[unkempt egret]

it's been so long since I've universal rando'ed and I haven't touched gen 6+ on it sorry

[brisk hedge]

That is the most amount of thunder stones I have ever seen

[flat obsidian]

I've been doing a Pokemon Emerald Randomizer and I've been so lucky-

Currently in the process of catching Groudon, Lugia, Ho-Oh, and Rayquazza

[lusty iris]

We don’t discuss romhacks or Emulators here

Please take this issue elsewhere

[pine ingot]

I finally got it! A shiny Hatenna with a sassy nature! This was a mess… I couldn’t tell if it was shiny at first, thanks to the in-game back lights and the white on its body. But when I saw the in-game colors, I was seriously surprised. Totally worth the confusion! What should I nickname it?

[unkempt egret]

Wizzrobe is what I'd name

[wispy osprey]

i feel that, i was looking for pancham in XY for way too long

it was 20% encounter rate and i found like 20 bunnelbys and 20 furfrous (each 10%) first

if you're looking for a pokemon, you always find the rare ones you don't need

[coarse estuary]

does this mean that if im playing a rom hack i can not talk about it even if i just only tell people what rom hack im playing and share progress or is it all rom hack talk is 100% banned? never been 100 on that rule

[lusty iris]

I just meant specifically troubleshooting

[coarse estuary]

ah ok you just made it seem like discussing rom hacks at all was not allowed

[lusty iris]

My apologies

[gusty umbra]

i got a question Looker, since you're the only person here i know thats played gen 7

what should i go for, sensu style oricorio or drifblim

[ionic ledge]

i finally got violet, once i complete my dex in scarlet what's the first shiny i should get

(i have dlc)

[gusty umbra]

roaring moon

[ionic ledge]

good idea, what sandwich dragon or dark

[gusty umbra]

dragon

wait is the magby line in S/V/

?

[ionic ledge]

yeah i think

[gusty umbra]

MAGMAR

[ionic ledge]

i remember wolfey made a video using magmar in s/v

[gusty umbra]

magmar was my first shiny

go for it

i love the pink 😄

plus magmortar is a solid fire type IF you can trade

sucks that they made a link cable stone JUST for legends arceus

[ionic ledge]

well i got pokemon home sooooooo

shiny magmar is based ill see what i can find 😉

[gusty umbra]

hell yeah 😎

[unkempt egret]

I think the line was added in blueberry academy yea

[gusty umbra]

even though im not a big fan of fire types, magmar deserves my praise

[orchid barn]

Does anyone play TCG pocket and have a spare Darkrai EX they’d be willing to trade? I need two of them

[gusty umbra]

should i (eventually) swap my hariyama for kommo-o or my fire-oricorio for alolan marowak now?

[sweet crypt]

Kommo-O is based you should use it

[gusty umbra]

4x fairy weakness is what worries me tho

too much fairy in alola

and what of the oricorio-marowak swap?

[sweet crypt]

OK, but are you leaving in Hariyama on a Fairy type either?

[gusty umbra]

i mean if i was too worried about fairies i'd usually bring in my glorious king aggron

[sweet crypt]

Heck, I'd argue you're gonna leave Kommo-O in more often since it has the speed and setup capability to just outspeed and OHKO the fairies if you play your cards correctly

[gusty umbra]

lemme see his moveset rq

[sweet crypt]

I know Kommo-O has good moves but idk how many of them are by TM

[gusty umbra]

no steel nor poison moves

that deal damage directly

[sweet crypt]

Most Pokemon only really become stellar when they get their TM moves, unless your name is Yveltal

[sweet crypt]

You do get Flash Cannon, Iron Head and Poison Jab via TM iirc

[gusty umbra]

so basically one fairy and i swap his ahh out

am i blindor smth

[sweet crypt]

But I have 0 clue where the TMs for those moves are

I know it does get those moves in current gen

Maybe it just doesn't in Gen 7?

Let me check

[gusty umbra]

it dont in gen 7

RIP

so i basically see one fairy type and gotta switch

[sweet crypt]

Well, according to Showdown, it does

[gusty umbra]

though lycanroc can learn some steel moves right?

like iron tail or metal claw potentially

or i swap lycanroc for bastiodon eventually...

[sweet crypt]

I see Flash Cannon and Poison Jab by TM in SM

It gains Iron Head by Tutor in USUM

[gusty umbra]

one i got has none of those there

pokemon.fandom

[sweet crypt]

Fandom is ass

Don't use it

[gusty umbra]

and the tutor IS in USUM

[sweet crypt]

Unless you have 0 other choice

[gusty umbra]

so thats outta the question

i made a bad decision picking regular moon

[sweet crypt]

Poison Jab TM is in Route 17

[gusty umbra]

and not just UM

[sweet crypt]

Flash Cannon TM is in seafolk village

But yeah, stop using Fandom

[gusty umbra]

on bulbapedia it says it learns those in gen IX

so it can in S/V

but doesnt say it can in 7

okay nvm

[sweet crypt]

It can in Gen 7, I checked via Showdown, DB and Bulbapedia

[gusty umbra]

didnt see the generational button

[sweet crypt]

Fandom is ass

Especially for bigger things like Pokemon

Anyone can edit the pages to be misinfo

[gusty umbra]

i only really used bulbapedia to see gym leaders, e4, champs, kahuna's and totem pokemon

[sweet crypt]

And the bigger the fandom, the harder to regulate

Not to mention the endless ads

[gusty umbra]

a solid 2 pokemon on my team are going to be permanent

and i have a team of 6 rn

gotta plan ahead

(i know jackshit about best team comps)

[sweet crypt]

Though, I'd imagine the Pokemon fandom wiki cannot possibly be worse than the Calamity Mod one

I mean misinformation is bad

[gusty umbra]

yeah that much info and its harder to find the fake shi than the real stuff

[sweet crypt]

But like

Calamity Mod fandom is an entirely different beast

[gusty umbra]

we talking about the same calamity right

terraria's?

[sweet crypt]

Yup

But yeah, in general, it is a good idea to look for any wiki apart from a fandom wiki

The ones for Pokemon I see mentioned most are Bulbapedia, PokemonDB and Serebii

Showdown isn't really a wiki, it's a battle simulator, but if you want to filter which Pokemon has which abilities, types, moves etc it could help

[gusty umbra]

mhm

though i know few people who have played gen 7 so i kinda just went to the people here for the help

like asking which to keep of marowak and oricorio

alolan marowak

[sweet crypt]

Keeping Oricorio around could be fun, since you can swap its type whenever

But I don't think it's good in Gen 7

I mean, it doesn't have Quiver Dance this generation

[gusty umbra]

bruh

[sweet crypt]

And its stats are unimpressive

[gusty umbra]

wouldn't have even got it if hawlucha was in normal Moon

[sweet crypt]

I mean, Marowak in general also doesn't have amazing stats

But haha thick club goes brr

[gusty umbra]

hawlucha BEFORE first totem is goated

is alolan diglett still ground type

or pure steel

[sweet crypt]

I also want to note that one of Alolan Marowak's abilities are Lightning Rod, so if you need an electric immunity, that could help?

I mean, preferably you have Rock Head but that's HA

[gusty umbra]

yeah but lightning rod marowak was useful when it was ground type

now its just taking damage

[sweet crypt]

Lightning Rod negates electric moves doesn't it?

[gusty umbra]

no it just attracts them

so it takes it in double battles

[sweet crypt]

No yeah I checked

[gusty umbra]

always to you

[sweet crypt]

Definitely negates them

[gusty umbra]

it does?

[sweet crypt]

I do think it didn't use to

[gusty umbra]

thought it only did it cause marowak is ground type

[sweet crypt]

Because I know Storm Drain didn't use to negate Water moves

[gusty umbra]

what about volt absorb then

2 abilities that negate electric?

[sweet crypt]

And they're both redirection abilities that raise SpA

Volt Absorb, Motor Drive and Lightning Rod all grant an immunity to Electric

[gusty umbra]

damn

small price to pay for 1 weakness

[sweet crypt]

Volt Absorb heals 25% HP, Motor Drive raises speed by 1 and Lightning Rod redirects and raises SpA by 1

Mild dumb typo dw about that

[gusty umbra]

i mean im happy alolan maro stays physical

but if i am to swap hariyama for kommo-o, then using alolan dugtrio might be good

my team currently is brionne, pikachu, oricorio (electric), rockruff, hariyama and an alolan diglett

[orchid barn]

I might have missed peoples replies… sorry

[gusty umbra]

so sorry to hear about your ghastly, he gets 5 big booms

[coarse estuary]

thinkin bout takin on wattson in the ruby leg of my genlocke. how many deaths we think ima get

[brisk hedge]

What’s your team?

[coarse estuary]

zubat, zigzagoon, wartortle, mightyena, eevee and nuzleaf. granted though im not at the cap yet so evos could happen between now and the cap

[unkempt egret]

I'm gonna place an estimate... between 4 and 5 before the E4.

depends on how well you prep for certain boss mons since hoenn's pretty matchup-based, more than most regions that aren't johto or alola.

[coarse estuary]

well also ima be preppin very cautious because its a genlocke

[boreal storm]

Smoking

[coarse estuary]

watson beat but it came with the loss of my nuzleaf linoone and mightyena

[tight nacelle]

what do yall think would be the best area to shiny hunt eevee in s/v

I went to medali but theres too many other normal types

[unkempt egret]

I think sadly that's the best option since it feels like they're absurdly rare anywhere else

[grave narwhal]

nnyone have pokemon sword?

[coarse estuary]

no

[onyx pagoda]

I do but I haven't played in a long time

[grave narwhal]

help me in trde?

i have in nuzlock

and i recived one timbur

[onyx pagoda]

I would but my nso is being weird

[grave narwhal]

okok

[grave narwhal]

do you help my in other time?

[onyx pagoda]

If I can get it to work, I will help

[tight nacelle]

dang

[sturdy sparrow]

Should I teach my E4 raichu thief just to have another special move or keep tailwhip

Pokémon fire red

[coarse estuary]

theif could be good for agatha

[sturdy sparrow]

Same game should I teach dig to arcanine partly becuz it’s easier to get out of caves while training

[smoky gyro]

Do you guys think Zororak or however you spell it would be more meta if it worked more like ditto

Where it transforms and inherits everything from the last slot until hit

[coarse estuary]

i think the only reason zoroark isnt meta is because of team shows where it shows you the opponents team before a battle thus if you have a zoroark the opponent knows to expect it and can make more informed decisions

[smoky gyro]

Even in closed team sheets

Im used to playing randbats a lot

And whenever the speed or typing interactions is off you can immediately pick it up

[gusty umbra]

does zoroark's ability ONLY come into affect if an npc uses it, making it appear as something else?

[coarse estuary]

no. it works as it should its just really easy to pick up because its a non zoroark that most likely doesnt know zoro moves knowing zoro moves

[flint lagoon]

off topic of that conversation, but tfw you wanna try other fangames but are too nervous to download any links hahahaa

[coarse estuary]

idk what that means lol

[flint lagoon]

don't know if a download link is safe or not for a Pokemon fangame I'd like to try

[coarse estuary]

well if they have a discord i suggest going there

[flint lagoon]

PokeRogue is a browser game at least

[coarse estuary]

usually most fan games have an official discord with an official safe link on said discord. btw what fan game is it

[flint lagoon]

just wanted to try This Gym of Mine

the one where you are a gym leader

I did want to try Pokemon Red Rocket Edition at one point, but I got lost real quick trying to figure out how to go about it

[coarse estuary]

yeah they have a discord so go to the games discord and get the game from there. also as a good rule of thumb if you want to try a new pokemon fan game type in the name of the fan game then discord after and 9/10 times you will find an official discord for the fan game or rom hack

[flint lagoon]

oh nice~

[gusty umbra]

i cant go there anymore, i got banned from the pokerogue discord 😦

[flint lagoon]

rip

[gusty umbra]

i blame the red angry bird

[smoky gyro]

This doesnt help at all but I recommend pokemon vega

[flint lagoon]

I find it kinda interesting, but I don't think I'd be able to get far into it

[coarse estuary]

how did you get banned from pokerouge

[gusty umbra]

i used the gif of the 3 angry birds throwing dice saying "if i roll every number known to mankind, i kill myself"

[flint lagoon]

I feel like I have heard of that one before but I can't fully remember. been watching too many different fangame videos haha

[gusty umbra]

PLAY POKEMON ROCKET EDITION, ITS PEAK

[flint lagoon]

before infinite fusion the only other fangame I have played was called Pokemon Sardonyx

[gusty umbra]

cant believe a fangame did regional forms before gamefreak did

Pokemon insurgence came out before gen 7 and made its own forms of some pokemon for the region

like the 3 kanto starters for example

[smoky gyro]

Insurgence was fun

I have fond memories of it

[gusty umbra]

charmander line is dragon/ghost, squirtle is dark/fighting and bulbasaur psychic/fairy

[coarse estuary]

technically they are based on the delta pokemon from the tcg soo

[gusty umbra]

yeah theyre called delta forms too i think

Also looker did you play gen 7 before

[flint lagoon]

Sardonyx didn't have a lot going on after the 2nd or so gym at the time I had played, but it had some cool features like a regional magikarp and actual death for the Pokemon

[smoky gyro]

I played it with a friend and they found a random shiny magcargo

[flint lagoon]

Sardonyx also had plans for mega evolutions for all the eeveelutions

[coarse estuary]

ive played gen 7 many times and even beat pokemon ultra moon without dealing direct damage why?

[gusty umbra]

im playing pokemon moon for the first time and i wanna know if my team should be changed (im at the electric totem)

i have a primarina, hariyama, lycanroc, oricorio (pom pom style), metang and raichu

i think oricorio should go personally

[wispy osprey]

why do you have pokemon that aren't from alola smh

[gusty umbra]

latios already said when i CAN i should swap hariyama for a kommo-o

[coarse estuary]

well unfortunately ive never dabbled in the non ultra games so im no help

[gusty umbra]

but still not sure there

[coarse estuary]

why does it matter what someone has on their pokemon team? it doesnt effect you in any way and what they chose to use or not use shouldnt make your life change

[gusty umbra]

i mean i have SOME overlap so i actually understand a bit of change being needed in my team

plus oricorio isnt that good lategame

[wispy osprey]

sorry i intended it as a joke

[flint lagoon]

I forgot what my Sun team was

pretty sure I had a crobat though

[gusty umbra]

so swapping it would be useful soon

[wispy osprey]

(i mean, i have a pretty consistent thing that i only ever want to use pokemon that i havent used before when im playing through a game for the first time but i'm not gonna push that on anyone else obv)

[gusty umbra]

all my oricorio brings is flying type moves, but i COULD swap it for a lilligant but this late lilligant wont bring much

[flint lagoon]

I very clearly remember using a level 1 vaporeon to catch tapu fini though

[sweet crypt]

There is nothing stopping you from swapping to a Ground type specifically for Vikavolt, immune to its main STAB and ground types tend to learn Rock moves

But if you don't feel like swapping things on the spot to fight then it's really just up to you

[gusty umbra]

ive got a few of my pokemon with rock tomb currently

[sweet crypt]

Actually, does the totem have like

Energy Ball

Or something

[gusty umbra]

swapped hariyama's brick break for rock tomb

and metang too

i think my team might actually be good for vikavolt currently

[sweet crypt]

What the heck it's fucking physical Vikavolt

Nvm this should be easy

[gusty umbra]

PHYSICAL VIKAVOLT?

damn this gon be easy

[coarse estuary]

its fine. im just so used to anyone and everyone getting mad at me for using specific mons when i share my team where they try to belittle me for some mons i use that i genuinely can not tell when someone is seriously mad at team choices or joking anymore as ive been burned too many times

[sweet crypt]

I shit you not

[gusty umbra]

holy shit

[wispy osprey]

gamefreak why

[sweet crypt]

Well it has an omniboost

So it's still dangerous

But man

[wispy osprey]

vikavolt deserves better than this 😭

[gusty umbra]

honestly got shook when i heard energy ball

never MIND

continental crush go brrrr

[sweet crypt]

If this actually had like, Dual special STABs and Energy Ball

This would've been actually scary

[flint lagoon]

at first: -worried about how to deal with Vikavolt
now: nvm this ez

[sweet crypt]

Perhaps too scary for a game made for children actually

Then again, just look 1 game into the future

[gusty umbra]

i dunno why i chose moon and not ultra moon

[coarse estuary]

yeah idk why you would chose the worse of the alola games

[gusty umbra]

woah buddy

[sweet crypt]

Ultra Necrozma is tough unless you're using a Bisharp or Zoroark or something

[coarse estuary]

no its not

[sweet crypt]

Trust me, the people who say Incineroar folds Ultra Necrozma?

Delusional, mine got OHKOd instantly by Power Gem

[gusty umbra]

what type is Ultra nec?

[wispy osprey]

psychic dragon

[coarse estuary]

have you heard of focus sash?

[sweet crypt]

Could've been underleveled but I think I was pretty similarly leveled to it

[wispy osprey]

in a game with no grimmsnarl

[gusty umbra]

oh so primarina can be good for it

[sweet crypt]

Yeah but my ass was NOT expecting to need a Focus Sash

[gusty umbra]

😎

[sweet crypt]

Honestly Primarina would be better for Necrozma

Since it has the bulk to tank like 1 hit

And still has SE STAB

[coarse estuary]

thats on you

[wispy osprey]

i mean, doesnt ultra necrozma still deal a bajillion damage with the z move

[sweet crypt]

That'll hit even harder than Incineroar's, mind you, Primarina has a stronger STAB move and higher SpA iirc

[wispy osprey]

which is psychic type

[gusty umbra]

ill be sure to check its moves and stuff before the fight eventually

[sweet crypt]

A bit rude but alright

[wispy osprey]

so even a neutral hit from whatever ultra necrozma's z move is might ko

if you're not prepared

[sweet crypt]

Honestly even if I could use a Focus Sash I'm the type to just hoard it because I want to save it for later

Since in Gen 7 those are consumable

[wispy osprey]

why are they consumable what

[sweet crypt]

Iirc Necrozma doesn't use its Z Move in that battle

And it's also a Psychic type move

[coarse estuary]

wild pokemon cant use zmoves

[sweet crypt]

Not a Dark one

[gusty umbra]

focus sash + 4x weakness to a move + payback =?

[sweet crypt]

Also, I'm not entirely sure if Incineroar can OHKO without crit

[wispy osprey]

yeah typo mb lmao

[sweet crypt]

Ultra Necrozma has pretty decent bulk

And like

An omniboost

Ig Darkest Lariat does bypass the latter

[gusty umbra]

does he get a +1 omni or +2 omni

[sweet crypt]

Unless the totem aura is just a special buff

Akin to Protosynthesis or Quark Drive

[sweet crypt]

You don't have to worry about that

Ultra Necrozma is only is USUM

[gusty umbra]

wow i REALLY messed up with normal moon

but i dont wanna quit halfway...

[sweet crypt]

Alright it's a +1 omniboost

[gusty umbra]

plus if i did i probably would've picked rowlet without seeing y'all talk about incineroar and primarina being better for UN

[coarse estuary]

just know you are missing out on some good changes such as added mons to some places new mons for some trainer teams, some totems are differernt and some that are the same can call new allies

[sweet crypt]

Ultra Necrozma will destroy you if you aren't prepared or coincidentally have a lead Zoroark mimicking a Fighting type, or a Bisharp

[gusty umbra]

and getting a VERY strong before raticate/gumshoos

a spearow for A HAWLUCHA? what a steal

HOLD UP

my metang just outsped vikavolt?!

i thought these things were fast

[sweet crypt]

It has like 45 speed

I know it's omniboosted and all

[gusty umbra]

nahhh

[sweet crypt]

But 45 is 45

[gusty umbra]

metang has like 50 speed

how the hell did i outspeed 💀

[sweet crypt]

Oh sorry, I got the number wrong

It's actually 43

[gusty umbra]

i really overestimated vikavolt

[sweet crypt]

Honestly even though I got whooped by Ultra Necrozma the first time I played USUM I still don't think it's the toughest battle at all

[gusty umbra]

my metang did more than half before dying 😎

[sweet crypt]

I mean, I wasn't playing to build an actually functional team like I do nowadays

And my execution in battle would be even worse as well

I guess I'd have to replay Ultra Moon to tell for sure, though

[gusty umbra]

i cant believe i used to play pokemon games with JUST attacking moves

"whats this? swords dance? no attack. get that outta here"

[sweet crypt]

I'd like to emulate the first playthrough moment of being unprepared and all

And not go out of my way to catch something for Ultra Necrozma

[gusty umbra]

mimikyu might be difficult tho

[sweet crypt]

But god knows I'm gonna want to catch a Bisharp either ways

Unless it's a massive pain in the ass

[gusty umbra]

i aint got any dark types for it but metang could deal with it being fairy type

[sweet crypt]

Which I mean, it could be

[sweet crypt]

Mimikyu is a Ghost type

[gusty umbra]

ghost/fairy

isnt it?

[sweet crypt]

It will be dealing the SE hits right back at your Metang

Also, Dark won't hit it for SE

[gusty umbra]

oh yeah cause fairy

so im riding on metang

[sweet crypt]

Yeah no it has dual STABs off its better attack

Play Rough+Shadow Claw

Metang probably gets 2HKOd at best by Shadow Claw

At worst, it's an OHKO

Remember, it'll be omniboosted, and it won't take damage from your first attack

[gusty umbra]

is the steel type z crystal pre or after mimikyu

i can lead with something like my primarina or rockruff to deal with disguise and a bit of chip, then metang for big damage

[coarse estuary]

you should already have it as in sun moon you get it before the electric trial after beating molayne in battle

[gusty umbra]

you do?

perfect

[coarse estuary]

mmhmm

[gusty umbra]

perfect?

https://tenor.com/view/cell-perfect-cell-hyper-realistic-hyper-realistic-cell-hyper-realistic-perfect-cell-gif-1635843172149104674

[sweet crypt]

Apparently you don't need to beat Molayne in battle, he just gives it to you after you beat the trial

You do need to beat him in the Ultra games

[gusty umbra]

time to get primarinium Z at malie 😁

[sweet crypt]

And you can do so before the trial, it seems

[gusty umbra]

should i go for steel z move or primarinas z move for mimikyu?

[sweet crypt]

But why would you use a Steel z crystal for a Togedemaru lmfao

[gusty umbra]

?

im going against mimikyu next

[coarse estuary]

thats a little different though as you just get given the z crystal in usum as molayne is an e4 member instead of hala in usum

[gusty umbra]

steel IS good there but i think togedemaru quad resists steel

wait no

[sweet crypt]

I was talking about me yapping off about how Molayne gives you the z crystal before the electric trial

[gusty umbra]

thats electric

[sweet crypt]

And how the electric trial in USUM

Is Togedemaru

[gusty umbra]

steelium z BEFORE electric totem is pretty much useless

[sweet crypt]

Break Mimikyu's disguise with your lead, then sacrifice it to get Metang with Steelium Z in

[coarse estuary]

yeah but id wrather get it there then be a potentially missable optional one because i didnt know how to get it and thus walked passed it and never had it on a first playthrough

[sweet crypt]

And then pray you don't get OHKOd by Shadow Claw

Eviolite could help with that

[sweet crypt]

... We're talking about the one you missed

In SM, you just get it instantly from Molayne after the trial

In USUM, you have to battle Molayne for it

... Actually, can you miss it?

Is the molayne battle optional? It's been so long

[coarse estuary]

no you dont. you have it revered. in sm you battle molayne before the trial to get it and in usum he just gives it to you

[sweet crypt]

USUM were my first official Pokemon games

[gusty umbra]

ill see where eviolite is

alrighty konikoni

[sweet crypt]

OK so apparently Bulbapedia is wrong... on specifically the Steelium page

But it is correct on both the Mount Hokulani and Hokulani observatory pages

[gusty umbra]

my glorious steel type pseudo king

one of 2 pseudo steel types and hes goated 😎

[sweet crypt]

Either that or you somehow got it wrong right after beating an only indirect damage run of an ultra game

Then again, how long did you say you were fighting Molayne for?

1 hour per Pokemon?

That's fucking absurd

Does he have fucking full restores or something for Corrosion Salazzle because what the fuck

[coarse estuary]

i infact did not get it wrong. you can google a guide on how to get all z crystals in both sm and ususm and then we will see who is right

[sweet crypt]

If I was doing that I'd probably just go insane

[gusty umbra]

i think the method of getting the steelium is different in s/m and US/UM

is that what this is about

[sweet crypt]

It is

But I do not remember which is which

Since like I said

This was my first official Pokemon game

[gusty umbra]

wait i cant use eviolite on metang

cause then i cant use steelium z

[coarse estuary]

and because you havent played in so long you think your ancient knowledge is more of someone who just beat a playthrough of usum

[sweet crypt]

Simply whack Mimikyu with a Steel move then

I mean, Mimikyu isn't bulky, is it?

I'd rather not take the risk of getting OHKOd before I can use a Z Move

[sweet crypt]

No?

I never insinuated that, I admitted Bulbapedia was probably incorrect

[coarse estuary]

then why do you keep trying to tell me im wrong when i im fact not wrong. you litterly said you must be wrong even though you just beat a playthrough of usum

[sweet crypt]

Unless I am amazing at forgetting things I don't think I did

And also why aren't we asking the person who is playing SM right now

[coarse estuary]

this is what you said

[gusty umbra]

how i feel right now

[sweet crypt]

I mean, I said "unless you somehow got it wrong"

Because I highly doubt you did

[coarse estuary]

then why were you still arguing against me for so long on it

[sweet crypt]

Because I stopped and then started going on a tangent about how your Molayne USUM fight was ridiculous, and then you started hounding me for saying that I said you were wrong even though I stopped saying you were

... That "I said" was COMPLETELY unnecessary

If you look to after that message, you will see all my comments mentioning it afterwards are either me admitting it's been a long time so I could be wrong or me agreeing with you on obtainment method

[coarse estuary]

well regardless im sorry for getting so heated its late for me and im tired. i need to log off soon and sleep

[sweet crypt]

My guy is traumatised from the 50 arguments about actually serious matters he's been in in this server

I'm surprised you actually take part in those it's better to just avoid them for mental health

[coarse estuary]

look im just so used to people aruging with me on stupid things such as them not listening or them trying to bully me because of what i do or dont like as my fave gen to play and what mons i use on my team then mods harping on only me for it that ive gotten hostile and thats not ok

im truely sorry for how i acted toward you latios

[gusty umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-steam-soldier-confused-count-gif-16049918

[sweet crypt]

Dw about it

Anyways, time to rant about something stupid

What the fuck is this guy on?

Am I high universe level chat

I could easily deal big damage to a Pheromosa if I could land a hit

Given how Pheromosa is frail as shit

And i can also pick a fight with Guzzlord

I wouldn't win

But I would've fought it

Does that make my punches capable of destroying universes?

Answer me right now

Does it?

Like bro, if you're powerscaling, AT LEAST do it properly

Don't fucking give me this bullshit

VsBattles wiki are high on something

There is absolutely 0 way 99% of Pokemon scale above planet level

I'd argue even base Groudon and Kyogre are at best multicontinental

Oh, and also

This is the fucking anime Bewear

Nothing in the anime has displayed high universe level feats

The best you have are statements

And I highly fucking doubt someone went "Oh Pheromosa? Yeah, it destroys universes"

[gusty umbra]

anime beware is def ultra beast level but Galaxy is more than a stretch

stretch armstrong type shi

[sweet crypt]

Forget Galaxy

And Planet level

Or continental

Fucking country level is already a massive stretch

[gusty umbra]

the ultra beasts (while very strong) are barely town level excluding a few. beware beating 2 is NOT galaxy level

[sweet crypt]

Pheromosa has like, the top 10 least impressive durability feats of any Pokemon

Being able to defeat it when you hit it

IS NOT

A sign of high universal

Or country

Heck, not even wall or street level

That's just a sign you aren't weak as shit

[gusty umbra]

pheromosa's BEST part is speed, i bet a humans punches could hurt a pheromosa

[sweet crypt]

Forget hurting it

A human could kill a Pheromosa if they could land the hits

And by accident too

That is actually pathetic bulk

That's about the same as Kartana's piss poor special bulk

Except Kartana has good physical bulk

And Pheromosa has terrible bulk in both sides

[gusty umbra]

the only ultra beast i'd consider worth actual weapons for are guzzlord or celesteela (excluding naganadel and necrozma) cause they're fucking massive

[sweet crypt]

Not to mention "Hey it fought Guzzlord"

As a fucking argument

I could fight Guzzlord too

[gusty umbra]

kartana cutting a METEOR in half proves one thing, rayquaza dont give a shit about alola

[sweet crypt]

That doesn't automatically make me capable of destroying the universe

[gusty umbra]

bros gonna destroy meteors towards anything but alola

[sweet crypt]

Kartana simply reached it before Rayquaza

[gusty umbra]

guzzlord when it has to fight a fairy type bee:

[sweet crypt]

Kartana has higher base speed

(Real)

Imagine if people tried to scale via in game stats

Ultra Necrozma is basically light incarnate

[gusty umbra]

i'd like to imagine some random legendary tries to intervene in kyogre and groudon's beef and just gets manhandled by both of them

[sweet crypt]

Let's put it at light speed

Whoops!

Suddenly Regieleki is like

[gusty umbra]

cause mega ray is one of few CREATURES fighting primal kyogre and groudon

[sweet crypt]

1.65× faster than the speed of light

[sweet crypt]

Forget Mega Ray, wasn't it canon that even base Ray was capable of doing so?

Rayquaza's just kinda GOATed

[gusty umbra]

yeah but it'd probably be easier to just show off an even stronger form

bro dont NEED a mega stone, he eats that shi (literally)

[sweet crypt]

In lore, in games it tends to fall behind Kyogre and Groudon with the crucial exception of Mega Rayquaza and Gen 9 Groudon

[gusty umbra]

groudon a real one tho

bro fighting kyogre on a bit of land

and holding his own

https://tenor.com/view/eye-of-rah-adrian-explain-our-friendgroup-tiktok-meme-reels-gif-8580965088318146552

[whole jewel]

@peak mica If you don't mind an economy-driven server where most of the low-level money is gotten just by hunting pokemon, Cobblemon Delta is a fun, competitive server with a bunch of custom content and very little in regard to paid incentives that can't be gotten just by hard work.

[peak mica]

hmmm

that does intrigue me

[whole jewel]

Get the Modrinth pack if you do. Curseforge is months out of date because they don't want to update the pack...

[peak mica]

i dont blame them, curseforge is bad

i use it but the company sucks

[whole jewel]

Yeah, Curse is garbage. Down with Fandom/Wikia. :I

[peak mica]

yeah

sadly the wiki for my favorite series uses fandom so im forced to use their website

[snow cobalt]

uh oh

what do i do now

i cant find magma hideout either

[peak mica]

this is emerald right?

you have to go do kyogre/groudon quest iirc

[snow cobalt]

emeral imperial but i mean

now where do i do it

i cant even find magma hideout

[peak mica]

you need surf & dive i believe?

i cant remember

been a hot minute

[whole jewel]

but yeah, they have 3 custom dimensions, raids, and dungeons right now. they also have regional variants and regional fakes, and a custom gimmick in way of "dream" fusion pokemon. It's also pretty active, and event stuff, like parkour challenges and spleef, happen semi=regularly and winning them nets you points for an event shop. It's worth at least giving it a shot.

[whole jewel]

I believe you are correct.

[peak mica]

how many players usually?

[peak mica]

to elaborate, cave of origin i think its called

[whole jewel]

depends on what's going on and when the most recent big update was. 350-700 users concurrent.

[peak mica]

ooh dammn

im used to servers where everyone knows each other LMAO

[whole jewel]

you get to know people pretty quick, both in game and in the discord.

[peak mica]

does modrinth have an app?

or is it manual dl

[whole jewel]

yeah, it does.

[peak mica]

sick

we LOVE bloatware

[whole jewel]

It's not as ergonomic as CF's app, but it's not bad.

[peak mica]

i have a vendetta against the curseforge app

[whole jewel]

you CAN download manually from Modrinth

[peak mica]

it used to require overwolf, and that is the definition of bloatware

[whole jewel]

The app is just easier.

[peak mica]

yeah ik im just jokin

[whole jewel]

I remember that whole debacle. XP

[peak mica]

such a nightmare

no app should need some shitty overlay lmao

[whole jewel]

Glad I was on MC hiatus when that happened.

[peak mica]

ive been on a modding hiatus bc my pc shat itself lol

i reset windows 10 today and i can mod again

[whole jewel]

Modern AAA games scribbling on a notpad of "Shitty ideas we should try"

[peak mica]

lmfao

i got an nvidia card recently
they have this overlay

but it's non intrusive

its great

[whole jewel]

Yeah, I use nvidia. It's just too convenient overall and... I like raytracing...

[peak mica]

idk if my card even supports rtx lol

it was free

[whole jewel]

I literally use the heaviest shader in the Cobblemon Delta pack. like "Path tracing every single lightsource including peoples held items?! Yes please!"

Plus, when I do that, my GPU doubles as a space heater. :v

[peak mica]

lmfao

i want a 40x line but moneyy

and i need money to support my crippling adiction to plastic

[whole jewel]

same. I have a 3060TI, but it holds up really well. My power supply is my bottleneck right now. XD

[peak mica]

my 2060 is struggling

again, cant complain, free

[whole jewel]

as a gunpla builder, mood.

[peak mica]

im heavily considering backing a 350 euro haslab transformer

[whole jewel]

yeah, that's getting a little old. And you also have the like... One 20 series card that CAN'T raytrace. v.v

[peak mica]

rip me

just tried applying shaders on mc
it crashed immediately

[whole jewel]

you could get a 4060 for that price... 😛

[peak mica]

but
plastic

lmfao

i need my liokaiser

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-victory-liokaiser-gif-24092025

[gusty umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-flying-crowd-gif-24406264

[whole jewel]

I can't really criticize. I spent $120 getting a p-bandai 1:144 scale model kit... And I have all variants of it but 1... 😭

[peak mica]

gunpla is something i do want to get into

but its more plastic i probably dont need lmao

[whole jewel]

mood. My desk's top shelf is nothing but gunpla... And almost entirely Universal Century. All of the other timelines are boxed up. XP

[peak mica]

i need a shelf

my figures sit in various positions

mostly sitting on top of my pc

soundwave gets to sit next to me though

[whole jewel]

there are 17 Universal Century mobile suits visible from my sitting position. My desk's top shelf is 6 feet off the ground. :I

so I'm essentially seeing that just looking straight up. XP

[peak mica]

i aspire to be as financially stable as you

i can afford one figure every like, 3 months lol

[snow cobalt]

how to remove this guy standing here

[peak mica]

beat the shit out of him
on the street
brawl style

[snow cobalt]

😭

[whole jewel]

lol, financially stable my ass. I'm just good at saving money. I was saving up to build a tinyhouse, but my job kept increasing my hours and took away our overtime incentive, so I've been living off that savings for almost a year now. Thankfully, I already had a significant backlog of plastic crack to construct. :I

[peak mica]

lmaoo

my plastic crack thankfully comes prebuilt

dyspraxia be damned

might watch some naruto shippuden right now

[whole jewel]

aaah, fair. Depending on how bad it is, though, you may be able to do gunpla. HG and FG are made to be easy to construct.

[peak mica]

i pretty much just can't write, that and i have spasms

[whole jewel]

I'm supposed to be giving into my Sonic binge anyway. Have a good [Time of day]

[peak mica]

oooh which sonic?

[whole jewel]

ah. I can slightly relate. I have crohns, and I've had some very bad flare-ups that caused swelling in my joints. Not quite the same, but... I literally threw my pen across the DMV on accident trying to write my name like that...

[whole jewel]

Frontiers. I've been watching recaps on the IDW comics and got an urge.

[peak mica]

yeah, i once was carrying cupcakes for my sister and just randomly slapped them out of my own hand in the car
i got screamed at (deservingly of course)

[peak mica]

i need to read idw, i read all of archie (mistake) and fleetway (mistake x2) and have played all the mainline games so far

[whole jewel]

oof. I wouldn't say that was deserved. I have low blood pressure and have blacked out holding food several times. Again, not the same, but... Relatable. XP

[peak mica]

nah, i kinda spaced out so it was largely my fault

[whole jewel]

I haven't played ALL of the mainline games, but a lot, and IDW looks interesting. First time I want to hug the rivals.

((Also getting onto off-topic again. XD))

[peak mica]

idw metal seems really well done, which makes me happy because sega seems to hate the poor guy

lmaoo

if we count the main 2d and 3d games, i've played all of them
only ones ive missed are ds colors, and the game gear titles

oh and mastersystem ports

[whole jewel]

Anyway, we should continue this again later. I need to suffer configuring my keypad. X3

[peak mica]

for sure! have fun lol

[gusty umbra]

question for pokemon S/M how big of a power difference is there from vikavolt to mimikyu

[peak mica]

iirc vikavolt is like, way stronger

[gusty umbra]

fucking liar

i just beat mimikyu and came back to see that

https://tenor.com/view/bucko-buckó-lujcza-my-honest-reaction-reaction-gif-27618660

[sweet crypt]

One is using low power moves off of its weaker attack stat

And the other has an ability that negates 1 attack

While using its best STAB

Have a guess

[gusty umbra]

why would vikavolt have ever been the stronger one though

[sweet crypt]

It hits harder when actually using special attacks

That's about it

[gusty umbra]

but they fucked it with nothing special

[sweet crypt]

Even in Gen 7 Competitive, Mimikyu is UU and Vikavolt is NU

So no matter how you cut it, Mimikyu is better

To be fair, Vikavolt is an early game bug type

[peak mica]

vikavolt has discharge at level 1, bug buzz at 36 and zap cannon at 64
offensively it has better stats

[sweet crypt]

And in that regard, NU is amazing

[gusty umbra]

i think my best option for my team is to swap either raichu or oricorio

[sweet crypt]

But you'd be comparing it to shit like Beedrill, Ledian and Wormadam

So like, no shit it's better

Beedrill has an absurdly minmaxed Mega and yet it's not viable in OU

[peak mica]

im comparing it to mimikyu

[sweet crypt]

That's how fundamentally flawed Beedrill is

[sweet crypt]

And there the only advantage Vikavolt has is damage

[gusty umbra]

i'm not comparing the two normal pokemon. im comparing the TOTEMS. considerably different versions

[sweet crypt]

Worse type, similar bulk, worse ability, less speed

[peak mica]

which if you're playing through the story of a pokemon game is the most important stat lol

[sweet crypt]

And the totem Vikavolt uses fucking physical moves

[gusty umbra]

mimikyu's shadow claw made it hard to use my only steel type

[sweet crypt]

Vikavolt's speed is harmfully low

You are outspeeding jack shit with 43 Speed

[gusty umbra]

vikavolt got outsped BY A METANG

[sweet crypt]

Even with a lot of EVs

You're always taking a hit from your opponent

[gusty umbra]

A FLOATING CHUNK OF PSYCHIC STEEL OUTSPED THE LIGHTNING BUG

[sweet crypt]

Unlike Mimikyu, who has decent speed, and could just use Swords Dance to easily patch up its damage with the literal free turn its ability grants

[peak mica]

fair

in my defense everything i know is based off of years old info

i also hate competitive pokemon so theres that

[strong charm]

Vikavolt is abymsally slow

grubbin is faster than Vikavolt

it has 43 base speed

[gusty umbra]

thats why i was surprised that i didnt need to use rock tomb to lower its speed

though i still did as metang knew no other super effective moves

[flint lagoon]

I decided to go back to this one channel on youtube to watch his old playthroughs of some Pokemon fangames and rpg maker games

Ah Pokemon Dusk and Dawn, the jank is real

wonder if they were ever touched up on in the 7 or so years since these playthroughs

[gusty umbra]

so latios hould i swap my hariyama for a kommo-o cause it seems kinda strong

[sweet crypt]

I'd personally do it, since I prefer Kommo-O's design and find its qualities far more useful than Hariyama's

Ofc, it is all your choice

[gusty umbra]

i mean i know its my choice but is my choice the right one? i'd rather go in with a better pokemon since i dont really have a preference between them. the whole reason i got makuhita was as a rebound from machop

personally the risk of 4x fairy really holds it back for me

though as you stated yesterday his flash cannon and poison jab can handle most fairies

[sweet crypt]

Oh if you just want the better Pokemon I'd absolutely go Kommo-O

[gusty umbra]

can do

i think my primarina will be able to almost solo totem kommo-o as long as its steel move dont do too much

plus even if it doesnt i have an oricorio which could become ghost type or psychic type AND metagross. though meta would take neutral from fighting, countering his steel and dragon moves isnt bad

though on that note, i feel oricorio should be dumped soon, perhaps for something stronger

[sweet crypt]

You're neutral to Steel

You got this

[gusty umbra]

water resists steel?

just remembered turtonator exists so im gon replace oricorio with it

or maybe i just get a talonflame for oricorio so i dont overlap dragons when i get kommo-o

though a 4x weakness might not be worth it for a bit of overlap with turtonator

[supple creek]

Water resists steel, fairy is weak to it

So primarina takes x1 damage from it

[flint lagoon]

this talk about the sun/moon games is making me want to get my sun game out, but it's 5AM rn and doing that would make noise

[gusty umbra]

oml im gonna sweep kommo-o then

cant believe i was gonna take rowlet

oh god its a spearow situation again

[coral raft]

so, I had a fakemon idea for my fan game, want to hear other people's opinions:

I'm doing the american southwest as a main geographical theme, but taking inspiration from most of america for the region, and i had an idea for an eeveelution parallel that's based on the classic D&D classes, since it was created here in the states. Its a little Human-like pokemon that, depending on moves used before level up, would evolve into a Steel Type(Paladin), Fighting Type (Monk), Normal Type (Fighter), Grass type (Druid), Dark Type (rogue), or Psychic Type (Wizard). Each would have an ability that makes them feel unique, like the steel type having an ability that boosts its damage vs Dragon-Types, The Fighter having an analogue for Parental Bond to represent multi-attack, The monk having Iron Fist, etc.

[smoky gyro]

Why does the fighter not belong to the literal fighting type

[coral raft]

fits monk more accurately tbh\

but then again monk isn't guaranteed rn, so it might be cut

Since im using essentials, i have a plugin someone made that adds new moves and abilities, there's one for the wizard evo that i think would be perfect:
Arcane Mage- Boosts Ice, Fire, and electric-type moves as if they were STAB, but dark types are immune to them

[pine ingot]

QQ, what is the longest time you guys spent shiny hunting a Pokemon?

[lucid gulch]

Anyone know any fangames with following pokemon? Been trying to build a list and so far I've found:

• Uranium
  -Eon Guardians
  -Sage
  -Libertas
  -Realidea System
  -Añil
  -Opalo
  -Insurgence
  -Zeta/Omicron
  If you know of any that aren't on the list, please let me know so I can check them out

[coarse estuary]

ive decided to take another small break from my genlocke and im going to start a pokemon x Looplocke

[coarse estuary]

ok what starter do i chose for my pokemon x looplocke

[tight ivy]

Torchic

[wooden dew]

bro???

dude just appeared in my living room

[brisk hedge]

What's a looplocke?

[brisk hedge]

Hey look, a totally normal Zapdos

[wooden dew]

nah he doesnt skip legday

[coarse estuary]

a looplocke is a nuzlocke variant that was originally created by the youtuber dead bed spread and how it works is your team is made up of type loop teams where ones pokemon type connects to the next and so on until you have a loop. ie wevile arourus and tyranitar would be a 3 pokemon loop as wevile and arorus share ice then arours and ttar share rock and wevile and ttar share dark. and what makes it interesting is when in battle you pick one of the loops in your party then only pokemon in that loop are allowed to be used (unless a mon from another loop is forced in) as for catching mons you can only catch mons that share a type with mons you own ie if you have a mr mime and a wortotrle but your encounter is a pidgey you run and re encounter as you dont have a normal type or a flying type. though to counteract the catching rule the first ever pokemon you encounter is the chosen one and that means that you can catch it no matter what to help give you more types to add as types of pokemon you can catch and it adopts the type of whatever it needs to be in order to be used in a loop so you arent just doing a solo mon run for most of the game. if you have more questions feel free to ask

[brisk hedge]

In that case, I'd say you should start with Fenekin, since that would allow you to get more mons early on

[coarse estuary]

the only mons early on i could get would be pansear and liteo and i guess litleo is good. idk if im forgettin any

[unkempt egret]

yea litleo chains into normal, which can further chain into ground with bunnelby

[coarse estuary]

yeah but say my first encounter is a pidgey so my chosen one is pidgey id have access to litleo even if i didnt chose the fenn

[frank lily]

Carvanha was from the spotlight hour

[gilded steppe]

bug/dark is such a goofy type to me

my instincts are telling me that it should have a x4 weakness

idk why. I have the type chart memorized. i know it doesn't have a x4 weakness.

but every time i see it, my first instinct is to lump it in with stuff like psychic/dark and grass/fairy

[brisk hedge]

Maybe you’re thinking of grass/dark?

Which is x4 weak to bug

[gusty umbra]

no way its the

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-blue-lobster-bluelobster-funny-gore-gif-10055099326853271144

[smoky gyro]

I want them to release a gen 5 remake already

[gusty umbra]

what would it be called

pokemon grey?

[smoky gyro]

Pokemon BW 3

Very original naming

[smoky gyro]

Good god this game does not like me turning Pokemon shiny

[empty ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/finally-dwayne-johnson-the-rock-ultimately-at-last-gif-25250494

[smoky gyro]

This is still by far one of the coolest features in gen 5 idk why they didnt do it more

[floral rampart]

anyone has a active cobblemon server?

[smoky gyro]

Honestly its more fun not being ocerleveled against gyms

[unkempt egret]

if it was gen 7+ I wouldn't be surprised if the dreamyard monkey was a requirement to even start the fight

[pine ingot]

if it was gen 7+ it would be the leaf monkey

facing the tepig

[boreal storm]

That Gallade is aura farming