Gen 9 is a wild generation
#other-pokemon-games
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they gave dunsparce a use
Maybe if you're playing RandBats
But I'm pretty sure nobody uses it even in ZU
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i meant in evolving to dudunsparce
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Why do shitmons always make for terrifying RandBats Pokemon?
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what could bro have done
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WHO TF BANS DUNSPARCE
Because Dunsparce was competing in a tier where the best Pokemon was Toedscool
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LC, or Little Cup, is a tier for only 1st stage Pokemon
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oh
and since he was no longer one stage
do one stage pokemon count in that?
like druddigon and pinsir
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I want to note that despite its 535 BST and Steel/Dragon type, Duraludon is not the most broken 1st stage that can evolve further (I'll just call them LC even though Duraludon is an LCUber)
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do one stage pokemon count in that?
No
Well, it might be the most broken in an LC context
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duraladon getting an evolution was very unexpected
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In an overall context?
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i was expecting another single stage dragon
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It's not even 2nd best
My guy is worse than Gligar, who has like 420 BST, and Scyther, who is cursed with Bug/Flying
And still has a lower BST
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especially the speed
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Actual fraud behaviour
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only trick room can help bro
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Duraludon getting an evolution is something that doesn't make sense
Until you realise that Duraludon is a fucking fraud
And definitely needed an evolution to have its evo line have any competitive viability
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I am gona need a emulator to play some of the other games correct If so witch one
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So Gamefreak is gonna torture it until the end of time
Cursed to be good with Mega but unusable dogshit garbage without it
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If Mega Audino had Regenerator it maybe could've been good
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who sees all the megas that keep in mind you get ONE in the fight, and chooses that
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mega beedrill was a good buff tho
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mega beedrill was a good buff tho
Mega Beedrill is a good buff, and a pretty decent Pokemon, albeit massively overrated
Mega Beedrill to NatDex UU is what Mega Banette is to NatDex OU
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like it's good but don't ride it 😭
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And if you know NatDex OU, you know that's a terrible thing
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it's still beedrill
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I'm curious to see how good Mega Banette ends up being in NatDex UU
I believe it rose out of the tier before they could get a proper read on it
But yeah, if you're a worse option than CERULEDGE in OU while taking up the mega slot, you probably never deserved that OU placement in the first place
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if the only pokemon you have that can mega evolve is that, forget the mega stone and just suicide bomb it with destiny bond
or at least try using it for a curse
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Anyways to sum up Mega Beedrill's failure in one word
Celesteela
To add 2 words to that
Stealth Rocks
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to sum up why to USE IT in less than 1 word
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to sum up why to USE IT in less than 1 word
Adaptability
It's a terrible reasoning but hey
It's a reason I guess
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Doesn't save it from losing the 1v1 against Mega Latias
But still
Oh yeah it has to compete with the other megas too
Most of them can 1v1 it decently well
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mega beedrill vs the mega charizard Y
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At the end of the day, if Mega Beedrill doesn't OHKO something, it is either U-Turning to take 25% or dying
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legit the vegeta of mega evolution
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mega beedrill vs the mega charizard Y
Bro Mega Zard Y is the current best Mega in OU
Forget about UU
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do half the team or do less than half to one and die
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Tera ban and unbanning of some of the Tera abusers really helped Zard Y out
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Lance can be a bad dude sometimes in the games
storming a criminal hideout and using his pokemon to murder the GRUNTS
i mean they're just grunts
you can arrest them dude
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Simply should've not joined a criminal organisation, I guess
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"what's that? you needed the money for your sick family? DRAGONITE USE HYPER BEAM!"
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should've held lax insence loser
the trainer with a level 4 pidgey i forgot about when i pull up with a pokemon made BY MAN to fight and WIN
genetically enhanced to beat any living creature in a fight
how do you think arceus would feel seeing genetically made pokemon
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If Mewtwo was made to beat any living creature in a fight they might want a take 2
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like mewtwo and (i think) zygarde
"beat any living creature? good thing quick balls aren't alive. HOLLOW POKEBALL!"
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just genetically enhanced
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I mean it's technically just a heavily armoured and cybernetically enhanced Pokemon
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looks like a kabutops mixed with a transformer
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So technically not man made
I think Magearna is man made though
Idk why we are defaulting to legendaries and mythicals
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half of them are either made by someone besides god or made by humans
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Ghetsis made Pokémon fusions before it was cool. He is a hipster
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Tbf a man making a genetically modified Pokemon which sucks at living is not very
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i mean the legendary BEASTS were dogs brought back to life by a bird
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rayquaza coming down to stop a whale and whatever the hell groudon is from fighting again
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rayquaza coming down to stop a whale and whatever the hell groudon is from fight...
Godzilla, I guess
Also, Kyogre is an orca
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Can't believe when the legendaries went to their homes, all of them flew and his ass just trudged
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So technically, a dolphin
They're both cetaceans though and people call orcas killer whales
So yknow what, close enough
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honestly i dont care what he is, he fits in a pokeball and is therefore inferior
can't put humans in pokeballs
or some very illegal stuff would happen
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Idk, if illegal stuff was stopped in the Pokemon universe by anyone but a 10 year old, there wouldn't be massive crime organisations everywhere
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grown ass men watching a 10 year old pull out the god of time on them in a fun pokemon fight
like sure you've got a cool larvitar, counter my roar of time you casual
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like sure you've got a cool larvitar, counter my roar of time you casual
And before it evolves into Tyranitar and tanks the Roar of Time and 2HKOs you
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the so called "god of time" when i pull out a ditto that becomes its duplicate
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Judgment is probably the strongest move when you account for both lore and in game
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isn't there meant to be multiple of all legendaries and mythics "Except the gods and arceus" in the anime?
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Just a solid 100 BP STAB move in game, nothing extraordinary
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like when there was a baby lugia
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But i mean
It's fucking Arceus' signature move
Also, at the very least, Judgment will do emotional damage
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or how there was two fucking solgaleo's
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Some legendaries are built up to seem to be one of a kind
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like mewtwo
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For example, stuff like Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza
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i think there's still only 1 of the IMPORTANT ones
the weather trio, creation trio and artificially created ones
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like mewtwo
There's a possibility of there being 2 universes
Well yknow what
Typo
But tbh
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there is only 1 hoopa tho right?
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That isn't even a possibility that's just fact
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if you count bound/unbound as one
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Actually it may be false because there's probably a lot more than 2 universes
What I meant to say is that there could possibly be 2 mewtwos
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i feel like silvally is a lot closer to arceus than other pokemon
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I mean there's one in Kanto for sure, and apart from all the alternate dimension and universe bullshit
(And Snacksworth)
There's also one in Kalos
Is it there simply to test out the Mega Mewtwos with 0 lore implications?
Probably
But shh
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Legendaries that we know for a fact are not one of a kind are the Cosmog line
It's a full fucking species
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i mean i'd assume one of whatever cosmog eventually becomes fades away
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Zarude is a species in the anime, but we have 0 in game lore to confirm that
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i think latios and latias might have multiples
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i think latios and latias might have multiples
Imo, they definitely do
I could see there being multiple of the Legendary Birds and Beasts
Though I'd lean towards there being only one set of both
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like how there was a moltres for eg in both kanto and galar. meaning there was enough of them for some to grow and change inside galar over time as some grew in kanto
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I dont see the titans being not one of a kind
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the regi's?
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like how there was a moltres for eg in both kanto and galar. meaning there was e...
The galarian birds were confirmed to just be lookalikes
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And not related to the OGs at all
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nevermind then
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Technically making them the first convergents in the series
They made this idea, went "Hey what if we made an entire group of Pokemon around this idea" and then they did it
I could see Mew being a species
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"so you remember that trio of birds? make them different type and design. and make them be NOT RELATED at all"
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Like a species that's almost entirely extinct
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I like how you have to rob a guy to progress in gen 1
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Maybe there's only like 1-5 remaining Mew because all the others evolved into every other Pokemon, idk
That's my headcanon
Maybe because we have literally 0 in game lore to confirm anything for most mythicals
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what do we even have on victini
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what do we even have on victini
It always wins
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or manaphy?
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i think manaphy and phione are multiples too
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Phione definitely is
I think Manaphy probably would be too
I'm willing to bet that Deoxys is not one of a kind
I mean it's just a mutated meteorite DNA thing
I'm sure there's other mutated meteorites out there
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Whatever Genesect used to be is a species
But did Plasma mass produce Genesects?
Hmm
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the theory of it being a kabutops artificially enhanced seems fair
since it's build is similar
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I think the only box legends that aren't one of a kind are the Gen 7 and 9 ones
The Lake Guardians are almost definitely unique Pokemon
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ultra beasts aren't one of a kind i think
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Same with Regigigas
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there was A TON of poipol's
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ultra beasts aren't one of a kind i think
Yup
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like too many
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They're just interdimensional common species
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and i think there was like 3 of those big ones at the end of sun and moon
even a shiny
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Is Cresselia one of a kind?
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If it is, Darkrai is
If it isn't, Darkrai isn't
I'm leaning towards yes, they are one of a kind
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cause if there was multiple, you'd be hearing about more cass of darkrai's sleepless force than in one place at once
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Same with Swords of Justice, Forces of Nature and the Island Tapus
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the "Arceus" you CAN catch is definitely not one of a kind
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The Tapus were directly given more power from one of the light trio
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since it's just a physical form of him
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the "Arceus" you CAN catch is definitely not one of a kind
Tbf that's more so
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and not his actual form
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One of its metaphorical hands
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but dialga, palkia and giritina are one of a kind
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but dialga, palkia and giritina are one of a kind
Definitely
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they just do so much random shi it seems like there's more
like when dialga showed up to save A FEW POKEMON from a whirlwind i think
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We know that more than 1 Type:Null exists
Because someone made a new one in Galar
It's possible that more have been made since then
I'm pretty sure some Type: Null are still stored at Aether Foundation
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pokemon that can be "made" directly aren't that common though
like there will be more
but slowly
like porygon are just FOUND inside tech right?
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If Zacian, Zamazenta and Eternatus aren't one of a kind, I'm eating a shoe
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Meanwhile, we literally see 2 Kubfu on screen at the same time
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I'm pretty sure some Type: Null are still stored at Aether Foundation
3 were made initially, one more was made in secret, and then Galar made one
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ho-oh and lugia def aint singular
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eternatus was just made from a ton of stored dynamax energy
Also, I'm pretty sure that's false
Eternatus isn't made from Dynamax Energy
It's the source of it
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An infinite source of dynamax energy in fact
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and bro STILL felt the need to steal other pokemons dynamax energy to eternamax
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And Eternamax being active itself distorts spacetime
Yeah, I sure as hell hope that Eternatus is one of a kind
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Thankfully, as we all know, distorting space and time count as Dragon moves
Zacian is the perfect counter
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zacian and his unpopular brother zamazenta
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... Hey, would Eternatus even run Spacial Rend if it had it?
It certainly wouldn't run Roar of Time
Anyways, Calyrex definitely seems special
But I'm not too sure about its steeds
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isn't one of them just a dead horse
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isn't one of them just a dead horse
There's that theory that Glastrier and Spectrier used to be the same entity
And if this entity wasn't just like
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i'd follow that
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A Galarian Rapidash
Or something
Then it may have been one of a kind
But if it was a galarian rapidash there's a chance more could appear elsewhere
Or maybe it's just
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horse dies fom being frozen over, soul parts from the body. both come back and return to their owner calyrex
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Some other thing entirely
Who knows
Anyways, the Treasures of Ruin
Theoretically more could be made
But as far as we know, they're one of a kind
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zygarde can DEFINITELY be made more
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They are just the culmination of negative human emotions inside of an artifact, surrounding themselves with something
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zygarde can DEFINITELY be made more
Tf does this even mean
Zygarde is a hard Pokemon to tackle
Since we know many cells exist across the world
And they can join together to become one Pokemon
So my question is
Do we count these all as seperate Pokemon?
Or do we count them as the same, because they're all a hivemind
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i'd personally only count 100% as it
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It’s many cells are all part of the same Pokémon. They just have the ability to split apart
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If there's enough cells to make a 50% Zygarde in Kalos and a 100% Zygarde in Alola, is the max % for Zygarde 150%?
What the fuck would that even entail?
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pure chaos
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Koraidon and Miraidon are the ancestors and descendants of Cyclizar respectively, in some other timeline
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the turtle?
Ye
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metagross IS just four beldums
According to the Pokédex. Which considering that they can evolve without other members of their species nearby, is BS
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i guess it'd send out some sort of steel type equivelant of a pheramone to attract other beldums ready to evolve
otherwise just mitosis then combination
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According to the Pokédex. Which considering that they can evolve without other m...
I mean, Kangaskhan is born with a baby
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once a mother always a mother
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So like
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when the mom dies
does the kid die
i mean in the pokemon adventures 1 book, the baby is a separate entity from the mom
since it was poisoned, while the mom wasn't
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yeah
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"When the mom dies does the mom die?"
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shit
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I love how I made the opposite typo you made while typing that
Truly a moment of all time
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Anyways, Keldeo is included with the Swords of Justice as "probably one of a kind"
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I'd be willing to be that for Victini and Shaymin too, due to lack of evidence
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i think mew is def one of a kinds
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In fact, most of these mythicals we have no evidence as to if there's multiple
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since there's NO RECORD of how it came to be
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i think mew is def one of a kinds
Mew is either one of a kind or a species that evolved into every other species
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so nothing to hint at reproduction
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Those are the 2 paths Mew could take
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i feel like it's the pokemon equivelant of the ultimeatum
every kind of meat stuffed into one patty
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I think it being akin to the first microscopic bacteria to start life on earth makes the most sense to me but idk
It's also why I laugh at people who say Mew is the strongest Pokemon that isn't a literal god
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Because from this viewpoint you may as well be saying that a singular pathogen loses to a human
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its everything mew isn't
violent, a fighter, not afraid
bro just ran cause he didnt feel like being a lab rat
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If Diancie is just a mutated Carbink, it's likely more than 1 exists
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Skipping Hoopa and Volcanion due to lack of any lore I could use
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heatran might be singular
I mean, it has a 50/50 gender ratio
I'm betting it isn't
Magearna is a tough one
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def more than 1
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Yes, it is man made
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i can see there being more made by aether
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But the soul heart is something I'm keen to know more of
How do you make a soul heart?
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Is it just like some random fucking soul
Is it just a shitload of engineering?
Is it something related to a more one of a kind Pokemon?
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We don't know
I mean, whatever the soul heart is, it seems extremely powerful
At least from a gameplay perspective
Raises SpA for every fainted Pokemon
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i mean it gave LIFE
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Maybe it's a collection of souls?
And every fainted Pokemon raising SpA is representative of a soul being added to the soul heart?
I dunno
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i feel like it'd have something to pokemon who's death changes their form
like a primeape dying to evolve
it's body lives but its soul finds refuge elsewhere
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Marshadow just feels like a species to me and I don't know why
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ho-oh might be a species
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There's 0 evidence to either side of the argument
I'd lean towards Ho-Oh being not a species alongside Lugia
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lugia IS a species
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That said, we barely get any info on either
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it had a baby
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Especially Lugia
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in the anime
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Lugia in the games just exists
0 lore
0 in game feats
It just lives in a cave with a cool title
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i mean at least ho-oh did some shi
gave life to three burn victim dogs
and power
unjust power, mind you
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Tbf apparently Lugia was added to the games because of the movies
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i mean entei's barks erupt volcano's
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bro def pisses off groudon
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Idk
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lugia is but ho-oh might not be
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I dont like mixing game and anime lore
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but shedding single feathers is common to see in birds of any age right?
so it shedding one in front of ash might just have been a coincidence and not sign of age
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Mainly because it's heavily implied that Hoopa just beats up its foes into submission before being able to bag them and summon them
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i mean bro pulled out gods in a fight
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Which means Hoopa likely 1v2d Dialga and Palkia
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just cause he could
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tbf hoopa def on arceus' watch list
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Which is frankly too ridiculous for me to believe
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how you such a big threat not only did you stop kyogre and groudon from fighting, but you got them to go for you, AND THEY LOSE
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If some random ass genie just beat up the gods of time and space, and a Pokemon so dangerous it was banished to another dimension by capital G God
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i'd be praying bro
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I'd be questioning my life
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"Live in kalos they said, it'll be fine they said"
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Arceus is also a fucking lunatic in the anime movie
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bro just beats his kids regularly
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While in PL:A it very clearly isn't
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comes down and beats palkia and giritina
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So yeah, I wouldn't mix game and anime lore
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while dialga sleeps
in the games he was much chiller
hes just violent as hell in the show
like some woman connected to him mentally while searching for help
he just screwed with her mind
like "wrong number hoe" MIND FREAK!
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And yet she's still probably less brain damaged than the majority of the Internet
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still smarter than twitter users
direct mental blast from Pokemon god
wait who's pokemon jesus then
or like "son of god"
just the three below him?
giritina, dialga and palkia?
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You do know that not every religion needs to have a Jesus right
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im not religious
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Enormous fuckin effort
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Enormous fuckin effort
Nice
Spiritomb's shiny is so cool
Spiritomb as a whole is so cool
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Enormous fuckin effort
holy cow
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If only it didn't suck in battle
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It's really funny to me that an amalgamation of 108 spirits can be gendered
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Like is it only all girls or all boys in there? Or is it just whichever there's more of
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It's really funny to me that an amalgamation of 108 spirits can be gendered
Yknow what that is a good point
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bro used to have NO WEAKNESSES
Even without any weaknesses Spiritomb is mid at best
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i feel like they eventually just merge and goes off majority
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i could see that workin
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Spiritomb unironically needs a mega
Forget a mega
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in legends Z
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It needs a full fucking evolution
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Real
Mega spiritomb gets an ability that just makes it immune to fairy
It would be goated
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does it have a signature move?
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Nop
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something related to it's storing of the souls would be good
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No its movepool is stupid shallow
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something to give it variety
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I made a concept for a spiritomb evolution once
(Purely from a gameplay standpoint since I can't art)
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since having the same type as a sableye and being just as shit isnt good
cause at least SABLEYE HAS A BUFF
IN MEGA
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got so ignored in gen 3 it needed a powerup in ORAS
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It has the same attack as it does special attack
Giving it poltergeist (since it's already known as a big time prank player) and knock off would do wonders for it
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And then additionally maybe a mega on top of that
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It has the same attack as it does special attack
Giving it poltergeist (since it...
It already has Poktergeist I think
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it got so hyped up from cynthia using it
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then you use it and its just 💩
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Poltergeist is the only physical Ghost move that isnt ass
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Knock Off is antisynergistic with Poltergeist
That's assuming you want to use both against the same target tbh
Ones ghost stab the other is dark stab
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That's assuming you want to use both against the same target tbh
Ones ghost stab...
Ghost and Dark do share some SE targets
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wait
does ghost resist bug or smth?
why wouldn't that be super effective against it
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And also, if you Knock Off a neutral target, then they're now immune to your Ghost STAB and also taking low damage from Knock
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i mean spiritomb not ghost type
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does ghost resist bug or smth?
Yup
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Hell if not knockoff just give it crunch
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It's not a defensive liability, even having a good immunity
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If rocks wasn't so bigly I'd say big 3 are fairy steel fire
But as is I'd say fairy steel water
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And is also extremely spammable STAB
Ghost has a singular resist and one immune target
And Normal is a low tier type
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worst type?
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Bug
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worst type?
Bug or Psychic
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It's defensively useful but offensively completely and utterly worthless
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I can and have explained for like 1 hour in a row why Psychic is ass
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Psychic is a type that is genuinely incredibly hard to save
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Basically the only two good typings that come to mind are psychic steel and psychic fire
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and most bugs were shitty
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only bug and ghost worked against it in gen 1
Ghost didn't work against it
Let me explain this more in depth
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oh then just bug
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So, in Gen 1, the Ghost type was Gengar
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Who was weak to Psychic, outsped by 2 of the 3 most common non Mew/Mewtwo Psychic types in Starmie and Alakazam, and also had pitiful physical attack and Lick as its best STAB
Oh, and also, Gen 1 is a buggy mess
So Psychic is immune to Ghost
This was unintentional
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so all you have to fight psychic with is neutral or bug
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Meanwhile, with Bug types, I'm pretty sure exactly 1 Bug type has Bug STAB
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but bug in gen 1 was NOT the best
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you wouldn't catch me with a beedrill in a gen 1 team ever
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i'd rather just fight sabrina with neutral
since at least SOME of her pokemon have 2nd types
so i can go for them
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Egg
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Tbf, Bug is probably not even a bottom 2 type
Because of how terribly Psychic fucks over Fighting and Poison
In Gen 1 at least
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no wonder the dojo went from a gym to a side location
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Ar least, the type in concept
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bro got his ass handed to him by a trainer
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The execution?
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not even sabrina
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Yeahhhh
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Oh in gen 1 I could see that
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Tbf, most types in Gen 1 were executed like absolute dogshit
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But nowadays bug is for sure worst
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especially how the first final evo dragon they made
weak to ice 4x
AND THEY HAD THE GALL
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Ice is close but has way too much offensive usefulness
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But nowadays bug is for sure worst
I think you can make a solid argument for Psychic being worse
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TO MAKE A DRAGON TYPE E4 MEMBER
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Bug is awful offensively but at least it has a defensive niche
What the fuck does Psychic even do well
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some bug types stand out at least
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I think you can make a solid argument for Psychic being worse
Psychic can hit poison types though which, in fairy dominance land, makes it super useful
vital bramble
That and psychic isn't rocks weak
sweet crypt
Psychic can hit poison types though which, in fairy dominance land, makes it sup...
That's like its only usage that it isn't just outclassed in by Ghost tbh, and even then, Ghost still beats Poison types in type chart
I find it funny how Bug is arguably the worst offensive type
sweet crypt
Yet, being weak to it is probably one of the biggest drawbacks ever
gusty umbra
it has 5 weaknesses
sweet crypt
[Pokemon] used U-Turn!
vital bramble
Grass is actually good defensively
Because it's one of only 2 types that are usable that can help vs ground
sweet crypt
Grass defensively is similar to Bug defensively
vital bramble
And ground is THE offense type
sweet crypt
In terms of the niche they fill
sweet crypt
Flying is definitely a good type
vital bramble
Flying fucks yeah
gusty umbra
they fast as hell though
sweet crypt
A large part of that is being immune to Ground and Spikes
vital bramble
It just desperately needs better moves
HP flying and tera blast flying are the only option for so many
gusty umbra
it's stonger moves are either rare or have drawbacks besides pp
cough cough brave bird cough cough
sweet crypt
Imo, top 5 types are Fairy, Steel, Water, Ground and Ghost, probably in that order?
vital bramble
Give lando-T acrobatics and watch the world end
gusty umbra
YES
sweet crypt
You could make an argument for a lot of the A tier types
gusty umbra
MY GLORIOUS KING STEEL TYPE IS TOP 5 OF COURSE
vital bramble
Imo, top 5 types are Fairy, Steel, Water, Ground and Ghost, probably in that ord...
I might rank fire over ghost but more or less yeah
gusty umbra
they can be in almost any order AS LONG as those ones are the top
sweet crypt
I like how Water is an obvious S, Fire is like a high A tier
And then Grass is like, high C tier
Balancing 101
vital bramble
I'd say in a doubles context fire is deadass top3 because literally rocks is the only thing stopping it from being s tier lmfao
Fuck entry hazards
gusty umbra
"how do we make dragons weaker? without fairy type" "easy, make them weak to themselves! and do the same to ghost!"
sweet crypt
I love how Volcarona, Zard Y, Ho-Oh etc were so strong that they did not give a shit about being quad weak to Stealth Rocks and went on to be amazing OU/Ubers mons
And then here we are now and HDB exists
gusty umbra
"quad weakness my ass catch these hands"
vital bramble
Hdb helps a lot but having a mandatory item is rough for a lot of mons
sweet crypt
That is true
gusty umbra
if you having a real bad time with hazards, can't go wrong with heavyduty boot
sweet crypt
But it's better than losing 50% HP on switch in
vital bramble
Real
sweet crypt
Ho-Oh is currently a top 3 Ubers mon
So evidently being forced to go HDB did not stop it
vital bramble
Something I been thinking about a lot too is that if you aren't worrying about corviknight or skarmiry, ground/poison is nearly perfect coverage
sweet crypt
Something I been thinking about a lot too is that if you aren't worrying about c...
Problem is, not worrying about Steel/Flying is stupid
gusty umbra
you cannot compare skarmory and corviknight
vital bramble
It's a shame nidoroyalty are held back by their stats so much
gusty umbra
nidoqueen always been my go to
vital bramble
They're probably my top pick for megas
gusty umbra
i dont deny it
sweet crypt
Mega Volcarona and it's basically the 2nd coming of Zard Y
sweet crypt
This time featuring a fresh new defensive type, new coverage moves and fucking Quiver Dance
vital bramble
Poison somehow got one of the greatest glow ups with the introduction of fairies but has been held back by the lack of actually decent poison types
gusty umbra
can't believe drapion was one of the top poison types of its generation
sweet crypt
Poison to me feel likes a B tier type
gusty umbra
like are you really that starved, unova?
sweet crypt
"Drapion"
"Unova"
sweet crypt
💀
vital bramble
Poison went from kinda bad to pretty good, I'd say b tier is about right
gusty umbra
was NOT good in early gens, got better though
sweet crypt
Hey, question
What is the most catastrophic type falloff in history?
Psychic? Normal? Ice?
gusty umbra
psychic
no doubt
as we have already said
had early gens in a chokehold
once dark came it got cooked
sweet crypt
Imo it's probably Psychic
gusty umbra
and more ghost types
sweet crypt
Normal is probably 2nd place
gusty umbra
normal had good pokemon but was DEFINITELY held back
by tons of bad ones
cough unfezant
vital bramble
Yeah psychic fell off hardest, ice if anything has gotten better because snow
sweet crypt
Psychic may have been better than Normal in Gen 1, but the Normal types of Gen 1 OU definitely had a chokehold on a tier more so than any Psychic could ever dream of
sweet crypt
Yeah psychic fell off hardest, ice if anything has gotten better because snow
Gen 1 Ice is easily the best it has ever been tbh
Broken STAB, 2 less resisted targets
sweet crypt
Blizzard in RBY was ridiculous
And this is a nerfed Blizzard
Because it had like what, a 30% freeze rate in Red and Green?
And you literally cannot thaw from freeze without being hit by a fire move
gusty umbra
but if you get hit by that
and you got nothing to help it
and the opponent has no fire
you
are
cooked
sweet crypt
The most iconic competitive Pokemon of Gen 1 is probably a tie between Tauros and Mewtwo
gusty umbra
Tauros is just an iconic pokemon of gen 1 in general
sweet crypt
I like how you pointed out Tauros there
And not Mewtwo
As being an iconic Gen 1 Pokemon
gusty umbra
man fuck mewtwo
fake ass pokemon
have your creator be ARCEUS and then get in a pokeball
sweet crypt
Mewtwo is the first Uber, and probably tied for most broken Pokemon of all time
gusty umbra
fucking Shadow of pokemon
silver topaz
yeah i downloaded the game legally from my 3ds but i js wanted it on my phone
sweet crypt
I cant tell if Gen 1 Mewtwo is more broken than Gen 9 Caly-S
They're both just on another level compared to every other Pokemon that existed ever
Except maybe Gen 2 Snorlax but shh
Tbf, if we're talking broken, we're talking banned
gusty umbra
snorlax used to be the HIM of normal types
sweet crypt
Snorlax is not banned from OU
gusty umbra
now what is he
sweet crypt
My guy is putting words in my mouth
sweet crypt
I would never slander Snorlax (unless it's some set up for a self deprecating joke)
gusty umbra
EVERYBODY prefers doduo as the kanto bird over pidgey
gusty umbra
he's a has been
sweet crypt
EVERYBODY prefers doduo as the kanto bird over pidgey
OK this I agree with
gusty umbra
OK this I agree with
you shut your goddamn trash mouth
sweet crypt
But tbf, Pidgey does fit the mantle of regional early bird more
gusty umbra
HES EARLY
sweet crypt
you shut your goddamn trash mouth
Rude
gusty umbra
THE ONLY DISCUSSION OF REGIONAL BIRD WE SHOULD HAVE
IS WHAT PALDEA'S IS
it aint flamigo, it's too strong
not the electric bird
only 1 evolve
but what else is it?
sweet crypt
Maybe you should just accept that regional bird is a completely arbitrary fan term
sweet crypt
https://tenor.com/view/mods-mod-ltg-low-low-tier-god-gif-5769835794988092393
Jokes on you, I am actually an ai all along and don't eat
sick anchor
who should be my other starter?
primal ore
are you doing endless?
sick anchor
are you doing endless?
classic
vital flare
who should be my other starter?
Wierd coloured relicath
primal ore
then how can you get a 3rd starter
vital flare
Theres no limit on how many starters you can get as long as you use the points wisely?
sick anchor
as long as its not over 10 points
vital flare
as long as its not over 10 points
Yep hense wisely
Also whats with those legendary prices thats almost all our points
sick anchor
miraidon is worth the points
vital flare
Is it even possible to grind candys for those to lower the price?
gusty umbra
yeah
vital flare
Speaking of eggs how do you use egg cupons
primal ore
yeah
vital flare
Ah good to know egg catchas were random events right?
gusty umbra
yes
but there's a slight pity thing
if you get too many commons, you get a rare
not too many though
vital flare
Good to know
gusty umbra
prioritise legendary/shiny up over move
sweet crypt
shi in legendary eggs costs 8+
They made a Cosmog a legendary egg for an incomprehensible reason
gusty umbra
i noticed
sweet crypt
- Nerf epic egg Pokemon
- Buff the cost
- Make it legendary egg
gusty umbra
i finally hatched one
and out came THAT
i've been more excited for paradox pokemon than for that thing
sweet crypt
Honestly if they didn't nerf it so hard I wouldn't even be that mad that it's a legendary egg
Quiver Dance Lunala is like
The most free win of my life
gusty umbra
surprisingly
sweet crypt
As soon as I actually evolve it of course
gusty umbra
my normal monorun is getting further than my dragon run
sweet crypt
The most free win of my life
Keep in mind, I've used Dragon Energy Miraidon and Electro Shot Kyogre
So this is no small feat
gusty umbra
quiver dance anything is amazing
sweet crypt
Quiver Dance on a Pokemon with insane bulk and reliable recovery and good base SpA and decent base speed and a buffed Multiscale
This 1v1s anything whose name isn't Kingambit in my experiences
And once it 1v1s that thing, it 1v1s everything else
gusty umbra
eternatus himself would fear that thing more than pre-nerf tinkaton
can't believe bidoof used to have SURGING STRIKES
as an egg move
sweet crypt
Quad Dark weakness? Quad Ghost weakness? Who cares, simply Quiver Dance, tank with Shadow Shield and OHKO back with Moongeist Beam/Moonblast
And heal up
sweet crypt
can't believe bidoof used to have SURGING STRIKES
Dw, Gyarados and Buizel still have that
Afaik
sweet crypt
I think Meloetta has Boomburst currently?
Not 100% sure
Mind's Eye as a passive btw
Torch Song btw
gusty umbra
i know some people grab toxic orbs in pokerogue for poison heal
but i dont get using it for guts
cause it WILL kill you
sweet crypt
Yeah if you want Guts activated and only Guts, Flame Orb is easily the best option
That's why Flareon is classified with stage 5 depression
gusty umbra
flareon deserves deppression
sweet crypt
flareon deserves deppression
Wtf did it do to you
gusty umbra
same with THAT 4chan vaporeon fan
HE MADE MY FAVOURITE EEVEELUTION DONE DIRTY
I CANT SAY "i love vaporeon" WITHOUT BEING CALLED A PERVERT
sweet crypt
Simply ignore those "fans"
Simple
That or call them a fucking idiot
That works too
gusty umbra
i got banned from a radical red server because my name is Freaky feller, clearly I'm not the one who needs to be a bit ignorant
that server had GOOD PEOPLE TOO
vital flare
Reasons i use the word like with most of My favorite mons
gusty umbra
ONE OF THEM HELPED ME BEAT THAT PRICK IN THE 8TH GYM
turned out
delibird carried
refridgerate + fake out + e speed + U-turn
vital flare
I like vaporeon due to its design like i generally do with eevee evolutions
gusty umbra
though flareon did help me in erika's gym
due to picking a grass starter i was at a big disadvantage and needed a fire type
i mean water
vital flare
In grade school i used to imagine a lot of pokeadventures and my starter/partner was a flareon
gusty umbra
i always wanted an aggron, he's been my favourite pokemon since i played sapphire.
But knowing arons
i'd have little to no luck getting one
considering they're in caves you'd need flash for, and i doubt i'd be able to get a hm or the gym badges needed to activate it
vital flare
In grade school i used to imagine a lot of pokeadventures and my starter/partner...
Didnt get my first legit game until i was ten
sweet crypt
Reasons i use the word like with most of My favorite mons
My tierlist's S tier says, and I quote, 'I think if I use a word like "love" someone would hang me'
gusty umbra
my glorious king
sweet crypt
my glorious king
PoryGOAT-Z
vital flare
I think im mostly just comftrable using love with 3-4 pokemon eevee umbreon and absol for one
gusty umbra
just CARRYING the normal run
sweet crypt
I think im mostly just comftrable using love with 3-4 pokemon eevee umbreon and ...
This feels like the setup to an r/stunfisk joke
sweet crypt
you should get 43 venonats
Why 43 specifically
vital flare
Nah just like dark types and fluffy mons (absols fluffy right?)
sweet crypt
why you askin? you a cop?
No I'm just curious what the fuck do you mean 43
sweet crypt
What is the significance behind 43
sweet crypt
I need to know or I will be stuck wondering forever
gusty umbra
it's a good number
if i'd said 44 venonats that'd be lunatic
wouldn't it, sade?
s-s-sade-chan?!
vital flare
crickets
gusty umbra
i love gifs
anyhoo
44 venonats is too much
42 is too few
43 is PERFECT venonat balance
sweet crypt
Venomoth in Pokerogue is kinda cracked
gusty umbra
sweet crypt
Simple Tinted Lens Quiver Dancer
gusty umbra
you know what else is cracked in pokerogue
sweet crypt
And it has Stored Power
gusty umbra
simply cloyster, swords dance, skill link and any multi hit move
that + grip claws/kings rock
sweet crypt
simply cloyster, swords dance, skill link and any multi hit move
Why SD and not Shell Smash
sweet crypt
No?
sweet crypt
Cloyster has a grand total of 70 base speed
gusty umbra
that's like
sweet crypt
So yes, it is slow
gusty umbra
fast
sweet crypt
It needs the speed
gusty umbra
it has the speed
gusty umbra
fast
sweet crypt
If 70 is fast you need to raise your standards
gusty umbra
my standards are steel types. one of if not the slowest type
sweet crypt
Like that guy who thought Eelektross had great damage
sweet crypt
I will say, Eelektross' offence is better than its defence apart from the whole no weaknesses shtick
sweet crypt
a stunfisk just hit a fissure on my FUCKING PORYGON Z
RIP
gusty umbra
stunfisk is a dirt pokemon for dirt people
AND IT WAS GALARIAN
43 venonats would never do me like that
sweet crypt
Anyways if Latios and its 110 speed ass is struggling with speed in OU you can't expect me to think Cloyster is anything but slow
lyric radish
Latios check the legend its now been ray miraidon koraidon and now ray again
gusty umbra
ITS RAY NOW?
lyric radish
Can i get shi y this time???
lyric radish
If you gave $ you get coin ammulet
vital flare
Candy jars better
gusty umbra
mhm
lyric radish
Nah ammulet is better
gusty umbra
agree to disagree
vital flare
That paired with what where they called golden candy and two level boost on evryone
gusty umbra
the rare candies yeah
lyric radish
That paired with what where they called golden candy and two level boost on evry...
Rarer candy
sweet crypt
43 venonats would never do me like that
252+ Atk 43 Venonats Poison Fang vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Porygon-Z: 3010-3612 (967.5 - 1161%) -- Guaranteed OHKO
vital flare
Rarer candy
Thats got to be the lamest name
lyric radish
XD
gusty umbra
252+ Atk 43 Venonats Poison Fang vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Porygon-Z: 3010-3612 (967.5 - ...
nuh uh, protect
lyric radish
It is i aggree
sweet crypt
nuh uh, protect
Maybe you should've done that against the Stunfisk too then
lyric radish
Rarest cand 3 levles to all pokemon but multiplyed bu your candy jars
That would be cool
gusty umbra
Maybe you should've done that against the Stunfisk too then
most people DONT EXPECT A STUNFISK TO BOTH HAVE AND HIT FISSURE
sweet crypt
most people DONT EXPECT A STUNFISK TO BOTH HAVE AND HIT FISSURE
Simply should've had foresight smhmh
lyric radish
most people DONT EXPECT A STUNFISK TO BOTH HAVE AND HIT FISSURE
Always expect the unexpected young ond
sweet crypt
(The irl quality not the move)
lyric radish
Chat how long do I stay awake tonight
Log:
2 days ago until 6am then sleept 2 hours
Yesterday what's sleep
gusty umbra
what
lyric radish
How long do I stay awake grinding razaquaz
lyric radish
I already got lowest price and passive and all moves
lyric radish
an EPIC shiny one
I already got a wild epic shiny today will no charm XD
Not ray tho
gusty umbra
epic.
lyric radish
Time to stay awake 10 years straight
gusty umbra
good boy
gusty umbra
mmm
lyric radish
coarse estuary
ok got my 2 encounters of sentret and geodude in the 2 routes before cherry grove and must now decide what 2 champ mons to add to the team. the options are squirtle eevee ratatta oddish spearow and ekans. my starter in leg 2 was chikorita
lyric radish
ok got my 2 encounters of sentret and geodude in the 2 routes before cherry grov...
Why the chick tho ... He sucky suck
gusty umbra
shut up
coarse estuary
Why the chick tho ... He sucky suck
hes my fave starter in gen 2 plus didnt want to double up on the water type starter picks and i planned on picking torch in leg 3 ruby
gusty umbra
then you can get piplup in gen 4
vital flare
Chikoritas are cool
lyric radish
This one is
gusty umbra
but they're not bad
coarse estuary
also if you dont like what starter i pick in my genlocke feel free to do your own and pick a different starter instead of hating on the one i chose
vital flare
Meh i dont really dislike any of the starters maybe outside quaxly but thats because of the final evo
gusty umbra
since actually using chikorita i ONLY hate one starter line
tepig
as the 3rd fire fighting, he was annoying and repetitive
vital flare
All starters have pros and cons
vital flare
I wish our cat starters were quad tho
lyric radish
Name 1 con of meowscarada
gusty umbra
infernape was vital (one of two fire type final evos in sinnoh)
vital flare
yeah but why have 3 IN A ROW
Thats fair thought
gusty umbra
emboar was NOT SPECIAL IN ANY WAY
vital flare
Name 1 con of meowscarada
Would have made sense as a fighting type
gusty umbra
why would they have a grass fighting type
vital flare
I love my clover cats tho
lyric radish
Would have made sense as a fighting type
She's a magician so phsycic could have worked too
gusty umbra
instead of ghost and ANOTHER fighting
vital flare
Idk always gave me more hero vibes?
gusty umbra
i love the weed cat pokemon
vital flare
She's a magician so phsycic could have worked too
Ok thats fair
lyric radish
i love the weed cat pokemon
Awhatnow
gusty umbra
give weed cat psychic, skeledirge dark and keep the duck fighting
that way it's still a type cycle
and still cool
vital flare
Quaxlys case i dislike the line because he looks like a mini donald duck
And he turned into well that
gusty umbra
i only DONT like the pompadour being diched
lyric radish
give weed cat psychic, skeledirge dark and keep the duck fighting
But the thing is the sycke is supposed to be opposite of normal water grass fire
gusty umbra
chesnaut's grass countered greninjas water
and its fighting
countered greninjas dark
both of their types countered anothers
lyric radish
chesnaut's grass countered greninjas water
Who uses anyone but Greninja from that gen anyways
gusty umbra
i'll have you know i am a proud delphox supporter
sick anchor
Who uses anyone but Greninja from that gen anyways
fr
lyric radish
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