I even took it a step further and did Mono Moth
#other-pokemon-games
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Where I could only use Moths
(And only bug type moths, so no Iron Moth sadly)
(I didn't encounter a Slither Wing)
(And didn't start with one)
desert coral
I tried only starting with babies and I lost every time
sweet crypt
I tried only starting with babies and I lost every time
Gee I wonder why
If I did a babies only run I'd probably rush to get Cleffa evolved
desert coral
meowth
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ive caught and hatched hundreds and i havent found one w pick up
its driving me up the fucking wall
sweet crypt
what else gets pick up
Sentret as a passive is one
But idk if you can get that rn
Pickup is also a passive on Unown
But that's Unown
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so this?
desert coral
aipom, teddiursa, phanpy, pachirisu, munchlax, lillipup, bunnelby...
that looks like a solid team
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itl have to do
sweet crypt
If you can get a cave cycle, try to do so, because Garganacl is very valuable (at least for me)
sweet crypt
You could also catch a wild Ghost type (preferably a bulky one like Cofagrigus) for Curse
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sweet crypt
Nice
Anyways, chat, I need y'all to give me recommendations for what to use on my next run
Please give actual recommendations instead of damning me to suffer in the deepest layer of hell by picking like, Unown, or something
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do a 500 and under bst run
actually thats too easy 475
@sweet crypt tepig as a starter
i mean
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<@716584336912154689> tepig as a starter
Alright so, so far that's Lumineon, Meowstic and Tepig
(I asked in another server)
sweet crypt
Alr so I only have 1 point left since someone recommended Fezandipiti
(I have a lot of cost downs on Tepig)
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<@716584336912154689> tepig as a starter
oh i meant ivy having tepig but go ahead lmao
sweet crypt
Ah
Anyways I can fit 1 more Pokemon in (or more if you recommend a 1 cost with cost downs)
Recommend me 1, 2 or 3 costs
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go sewaddle
sweet crypt
go sewaddle
I dont have cost down on it sadly
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rough
delicate hollow
How's this for a fan game or rom hack:
The story is mainly all about Arceus where everyone worships Arceus as a religion and claims he is God. But you are a non believer and you think of him as an evil bad guy so you can guess who the final boss is.
Rather than collect 8 gym badges, the victory road and elite 4, you enter tournaments and climb the highest rank, then defeat the champion and enter the hall of fame. But the game doesn't end here after entering the hall of fame you have to go through a long final dungeon and face God himself (that God is infact Arceus) who has these origin forms when fused with other legendary Pokemon and his final "God form" which is supposed to be the almighty powerful immortal being who resists all types and without a HP bar making it hard to know how much HP its got so you have to deal with teaching high BP moves (BP = base power) and high crit rate moves so you gotta reach max level or the highest level possible.
I think the final dungeon should be Mt Coronet and taking place in distant future Sinnoh, or just Sinnoh 30 years in the future, maybe 50 years or more? I haven't thought of this yet, or if this will take place in Sinnoh or alternate Hisui, as in, the alternate dimension, parallel universe version of Sinnoh/Hisui.
All current gen Pokemon from Kanto to Paldea with a sprinkle of new evolutions and Fakemon.
Current gen battle mechanics and features ie physical/special split, Fairy type (or new types added) infinite TMs, no HMs instead with "field moves", semi open world (maybe?), infinite repels or ask to use repel when it runs out, no running shoes or hold B to run instead it can be toggled on or off in options, EXP all acts as gen 8 EXP all but can be activated or deactivated at anytime, portable PC and well I think you know the rest as this is too much to type so I'm gonna rest my hands for now.
I'm thinking the title should be similar to Legends Arceus but I don't have a name in mind yet.
If you guys got ideas or planning just let me know!
Also, I'm not a game developer so don't expect me to literally create the game as I have never done this kind of thing before.
lyric radish
I dont have cost down on it sadly
please say you are awake
do i get mega or Gmax veanasaur
vernal stump
when i was trying to get a german ditto, i immediatly went to medali and porta marinata i was at medali and when i was checking which ones we're dittos. i saw a handbag just floating, then it flew up into the heavens when it hit a cliff
i thought it was really fun
at the end, i got my ditto
:D
west fox
So.... Not exactly fusion related but damn... i was playing a Randomized Hardcore Nuzlocke of Pokemon Black, i Got all the way to the elite four.... i then got whiped by the first challenger... the ghost chick.... Her team had randomized to a Altaria, bloody dragon monstrosity, Then, when i did managed to take it out this Chick rolled out with a Palkia! And after beating this Palkia, SHE BROUGHT OUT ANOTHER ONE! My Nuzlocke was damned from the start....
coral vessel
RIP
west fox
She could of had anything... she could of had an oddish, she could of had a Weedle, but no... She had two Palkias!
Im sitting here contemplating if i want to restart or not....
im 16 and a half hours in...
the only reason i did as well as i did was because my starter was a bloody Fire/ghost lamp!
Smog, Confusion ray, Hex, and Flame Burst.... it was beautiful
I even managed to catch a Zapdos near the end of the run. trough about 132 Ultra balls, sleep powder, and a Fuck load of luck
cursive flume
I even managed to catch a Zapdos near the end of the run. trough about 132 Ultra...
i dont think 132 ultra balls are luck
west fox
i Had about 100 left to use so id say pretty lucky
Lucky because i didnt have to sit trough another 100 balls just not to get it
Not that it matters now!
Wanna know the worst part?
That mighty Zapdos got one shot by the palkia using some spatial wibbly wobbly timey whimey bullshit
sick iris
hey guys trying out pokemon insurgence for the first time
did a randomizer and got an arbok as my starter
west fox
did a randomizer and got an arbok as my starter
Huh, you can have some fun with that. :)
good luck my guy, hope your run goes better than mine bloody did
sick iris
well I just killed god so
west fox
Yeah ive done that too, didnt get any easier when they kept bringing them back
sick iris
the one thing I dont like is how fast its auto set at
west fox
One trainer having two Palkias.... early game trainers having rayquaza and Dialga and zapdos and mesprit and the whole bloody gang
sick iris
I do like the inclusion of delta species
gusty umbra
what bloody pokemon game is this
with two palkias on one trainer?!
i just came to get a bit of help with radical red and see that?
gusty umbra
oh
sick anchor
make my team
sick anchor
why is flamigo actually kinda good
sleek steppe
Does anyone here know how to download Pokemon quetzal
lyric radish
Does anyone here know how to download Pokemon quetzal
no
lyric radish
why is flamigo actually kinda good
couse he a bird
sick anchor
i lost at 90 this time
lyric radish
how...
sick anchor
i had nothing to counter the boss
lyric radish
...
sick anchor
it was one hp but it kept boosting stats
west fox
with two palkias on one trainer?!
Pokemon Black, Randomized Hardcore nuzlocke.
And my friend, Dont forget the fluffy bloody bird that spammed dragon dance while evading every single one of my attacks.
sick anchor
This is my team rn what other Pokémon should I get (Pokémon sun)
sick anchor
Lemme see when I can get one
unkempt egret
your best option might actually be chikorita since the other 3 are primarily physical which doesn't go well when ||the main ground type you'll be seeing learns counter decently early||
coarse estuary
later today ill get my team setup for crystal leg of genlocke if my stomach settles down
sick anchor
your best option might actually be chikorita since the other 3 are primarily phy...
Got em
lyric radish
thoose types xd
i got Dmax band still missing mega brace tho
im at wawe 95 or smth i started playing showdown xd
sweet crypt
I was having a very peaceful sleep until like a minute or two ago when I very peacefully woke up
Ngl, I'd rate that sleep an 8.5/10
lyric radish
i rate my sleep 1/10 went to sleep 6am woke up 8am ...
sweet crypt
Bruh
lyric radish
atleast i went to sleep and it was only cuz of you
coarse estuary
im feeling good enough to get my crystal leg going. lets do this
sweet crypt
Someone pick something help
I want to start a run but I have 1 point remaining
Nvm someone in another server picked Riolu
sweet crypt
I also already have Finneon selected
unkempt egret
ah
sweet crypt
Using only suggestions from other people
unkempt egret
my second pick was skitty but that's only because I ground out skitty for its stuffs (it's nice for catching things between fake out and sing lol)
sweet crypt
Final team. Screw whoever asked me to bring Fezandipiti, I wouldn't even spend 3 points for it but it costs 5
Actually did a short candy run to get enough candies for Finneon's passive since I only needed 4 more
sweet crypt
I will say, there is one thing that Fezan would be good for, and that's Eternatus
And the rest of the team would probably struggle there
So hey, could've been worse
Alright managed to evolve Riolu in the first day cycle
I also got HA on Espurr, mainly plan on using it for Dark Void
I might also try to get Light Screen on it
Not gonna lie
Lumineon is kinda going ham right now
They added an option to fight the team your Pokemon would've turned into if you accepted the offer for the weird dream event
I'm fighting a fucking Mewtwo rn
Man, if I wasn't doing a run with only these Pokemon, I might've reset my save to accept
marble helm
on ROWE 😄
sweet crypt
What the shiny perfect nature Rayquaza
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Getting the shiny was amazing, but getting Jolly Nature by default was just the cherry on top lol
I only regret it was a 0% catch rate with a luxury ball 😦
Fortunately, I also love Timer ball, but luxury would've been the best for him
or her, who am I to give a gender to a god?
sweet crypt
Ivy replaced someone with Kingambit
Thankfully, she tries to use Drampa as her Lumineon counter and Lumineon uses Drampa as set up fodder
She's also using like
Defiant Kingambit
And not Supreme Overlord
Oh god it's the clown
Nvm Lumineon folded them
Quad Fire resist
And a strong spread move (and Blacephalon rolled Flying/Fire so it was weak to them)
Lmao 3 Thunder dodges in a row these 2 Jolteons are blind
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LumineGOD
sick anchor
is ogerpon good in pokerogue?
sweet crypt
is ogerpon good in pokerogue?
I dunno, haven't used it
Though, you can swap between its forms if you have multiple of them
Or at least, you should be able to
I did with Dusk Mane Necrozma and Ultra Necrozma so I don't see why this would be different
Ultra being a permanent form in this game
Just thought my level matching the current wave was cool
Mega Lucario would be cool but tbh I think the item I want the most is the baton
Lumineon swept Ivy, but Rayquaza landed a worryingly strong Outrage
sick anchor
who should my last member be?
sweet crypt
I dunno lol
Tbh Rayquaza kinda just destroys your current team so probably something for that
sick anchor
Tbh Rayquaza kinda just destroys your current team so probably something for tha...
RAYQUAZA?!?!?!
sweet crypt
Oh you don't know?
Well uhhh
Good luck lmao
If you can get some kind of fast ice type for it that'd be great
Except Froslass has negative damage and Weavile has 0 physical ice moves by level up
But shh
Froslass is also outsped by Mega Ray
So uhh
Simply get good egg moves fr
sick anchor
my flamigo has triple axel
sweet crypt
Flamigo is slower than both Rayquaza forms
But if you could land like
A Rock Tomb, Icy Wind, Nuzzle, Thunder Wave etc
Then it probably could work
Except for Mega Ray who is only 2* weak to ice but you can probably catch other Pokemon for it by then
sick anchor
should i use my 3 luck relicanth or something useful?
sweet crypt
Probably something more useful
Tbf, Relicanth could tank a physical hit from Rayquaza
But it probably couldn't tank a special one
The Pokemon Breeder tried to jump me
Unfortunately for her, I have 5 Pokemon and 3 are sweepers
So yeah Emboar wiped the floor with her team
marble helm
Shit. Shiny Butterfree in my ROWE playthrough right now, what ball do I use? 😮
-Dive
-Premier
-Repeat
-Luxury
-Heal (my fav atm)
-Lure
-Net
-Nest
-Ultra
-Quick
primal ore
nest would be the best choice no?
sick anchor
quick ball better
primal ore
wait i got my balls confused
which is the one where its better against water and bug types
marble helm
Net
primal ore
i was close enough
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I guess I can change the ball later if I want
I have it at 1 hp and asleep so I just meant for aesthetic lol
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Heal looks nice I think with the big pink eyes
sweet crypt
OHKOd Toxapex on a resist god fucking damn
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big pink eyes I swear to god I smoke too much
I think Ima chuck a luxury ball at it
Luxury is my fav ball if I don't know on shinies haha
primal ore
what rom is this
marble helm
ROWE
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??
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Real Open World Emerald, sorry
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lmao its fine
sick anchor
i got a legendary egg
sweet crypt
Anyways, I nearly swept the entire Galar Elite 4 with Mega Lucario alone
But then Leon pulled out Zacian and crit me to death
sweet crypt
So yeah I had to finish the sweep with Lumineon
marble helm
https://tenor.com/view/triste-gif-20942201
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lumineon the goat
brisk hedge
Side note, if you didn’t cry while watching the episode where Ash releases Butterfree, you have no soul
marble helm
LumineGOAT
LumineGOD
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YEAHHHHH
nvm mood ruined
caught a shit less than ideal excadrill
NVM
taxel tm for meowscarada
yummy
brisk hedge
This is the most Lumineon hype I have ever seen
primal ore
hes just a cool fish
sick anchor
lumineon aint even a real pokemon fr
primal ore
@sweet crypt ykw how i had shit rng w ivys team yesterday
brisk hedge
lumineon aint even a real pokemon fr
sweet crypt
Lumineon and Fezandipiti just 2v1d Emax no diff
primal ore
ez
sweet crypt
Though shoutouts to Meowstic for setting up Light Screen
Idk if I could've gotten Lumineon set up on base Eternatus if it wasn't for that
primal ore
the only thing slightly scary is her axew eventually haxorus
sweet crypt
Prankster definitely mattered there, after Light Screen Eternabeam did 50%, so I died without Light Screen
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should i replace any of these moves
Probably not
If you predict a Steel type you always Salt Cure anyways
sweet crypt
Final thoughts on the team
I've used (Mega) Lucario a lot before, and knew what to expect. Met my expectations as a contender for best on the team
I've used Emboar somewhat, it would've done amazingly if I let it, but Mega Lucario was more easy to use
Meowstic didn't see much use, but pulled off a lot of clutch moments with Prankster Screens and Dark Void
Fezandipiti was slightly better than expected, but I will say that even with Taxel, it was so fraudulent it had to use 3 Roosts on a random ass Crobat
Lumineon exceeded my expectations tenfold. Actually insane sweeper, I guess that's what happens when you give a Water type Quiver Dance, Bouncy Bubble and Water Bubble
primal ore
meowstic gets dark void lmao?
sweet crypt
meowstic gets dark void lmao?
Egg move
They also unnerfed it
So yeah, priority 80% accurate sleep
Not as insane as Ledyba though, that has Prankster Spore 💀
What is this, Infinite Fusion?
lyric radish
Its bad no need to try pokemon inf fusions just play pokerogue instead😀
sweet crypt
Koraidon gacha the day after Miraidon gacha
Ngl this is probably also worth rolling on, Koraidon is goated
lyric radish
3 days worth in a row
primal ore
yo what the fuck is sinistcha
lyric radish
Ray Mira now korai is crazy
sweet crypt
yo what the fuck is sinistcha
Convergent Sinistea, except it's the fully evolved one
Prevo is Poltchageist
I'm not sure if Koraidon is more value than Rayquaza
brisk hedge
Final thoughts on the team
I've used (Mega) Lucario a lot before, and knew what ...
NGL, I forgot that Pokerouge had alternate shinys and was jump scared by the Lucario
sweet crypt
Miraidon definitely was
lyric radish
Latios I got 2 questions
- Do you ever sleep
- Where tf do you live since you are online until 6am for me...
sweet crypt
Latios I got 2 questions
1. Do you ever sleep
2. Where tf do you live since you...
1: Yes
2: I won't give you an exact answer, but my timezone is gmt +8. My sleep schedule is completely fucked 70% of the time, but currently it's alright
Gonna see if I can do a Miraidon run real quick for candy
lyric radish
Russian?
primal ore
we might be from the same country if day light savings are on
lyric radish
No way you can spell you can't be Russian
primal ore
lmfao
lyric radish
So it's Australia or a tiny country like Singapore
brisk hedge
No way you can spell you can't be Russian
I cant spel an im no Rusian
lyric radish
I cant spel an im no Rusian
Russian normally can't talk or spell correct usually there's a lot more with same situation tho
When it comes to english
Their native they can they just need to sound mad XD
Guys do I try and find exactly where latios is from xd
If we exclude Russia there are 11 countries with he's timezone
sweet crypt
First 10 rounds and I already have a Magnet on Miraidon
primal ore
crazy
brisk hedge
Guys do I try and find exactly where latios is from xd
Latios is a roaming legendary, so he’s no where and everywhere 
sweet crypt
Red shiny Zigzagoon, pretty good
lyric radish
No way he's from Brunei or Macau so 9 left
sweet crypt
I also got Dewpider's HA but who the hell is using Water Absorb over Water Bubble
You do realise I won't entertain your guesses right?
lyric radish
Ye but it entertains my brain
China excluded do to no English education 8 left
Hong Kong for the same reason
sweet crypt
That cottonee really did just use Prankster Stun Spore against a Miraidon and a Sableye
Anyways my route is to go to the wastelands, pray for the wild Pokemon to hold dragon fangs and catch them for their item
lyric radish
Endless?
sweet crypt
But I want it
I want to be able to instantly OHKO any Excadrill or Iron Treads that dare block my path
So I need more dragon fangs
lyric radish
Or you just click a dragon move and they still die
sweet crypt
Or you just click a dragon move and they still die
I dunno it's resisted
lyric radish
Sir do you not realize how op miraidon is
lyric radish
Then get some vitamins
sweet crypt
Yeah I'll do that while pathing to the wastelands
lyric radish
I alsost typed specs I've played too much competitive pokemon
sweet crypt
Real
Specs Miraidon balling
Honestly I should just overlevel Miraidon
Either ways it's gonna die to Dmax Cannon/Eternabeam
lyric radish
Just outspeed and OHKO
sweet crypt
Just outspeed and OHKO
Exactly what I need the levels for
(The OHKO part, not the outspeed part, Miraidon is just faster)
If I'm not chunking down 100% of Eternamax's HP bar through 5 bars, am I really playing the game?
lyric radish
I had a dang MAMOSWINE OHKO tha basterd with ice shard very overlevled and many multilenses but still
lyric radish
If I'm not chunking down 100% of Eternamax's HP bar through 5 bars, am I really ...
Real
sweet crypt
Multi Lens would trivialise OHKOing Emax tbh, since the big issue is doing enough to break through all the bars at once
lyric radish
Ye course each bar is double the last ones HP bar 1 is a normal eternatus HP bar but bar 2 is 2 eternatuses to kill and bar 3 is 4 eturn and so on
If you kill them at the same time that is
Each time your attack ends it resets so next bar is 1x and second is 2x
sweet crypt
If I'm lucky, I can loop Wasteland visits for more fangs
Only a 50% each time though
lyric radish
Yikes
lyric radish
Speed ohps nature
sick anchor
should i use a new team since the thing came off my flamigo?
lyric radish
Ogerpon relicanth will go hard trust xd
lyric radish
Latios
Do I need 2 snorlaxes?
In my monogen 1
Mega bracket on 147 is it too late?
Got 3 megable mons tho
2 mage Pokemons now got rid of one
sick anchor
is miradon good?
lyric radish
Very
brisk hedge
In general? Yes. In Pokerouge? No clue
sick anchor
i havent used em outside of scarlet and violet
primal ore
miraidon is great
sweet crypt
In general? Yes. In Pokerouge? No clue
Probably the best 9 cost in Pokerogue imo
brisk hedge
Miraidon > yaba daba doo lizard
sweet crypt
And ofc, one of 2 AG Pokemon in Gen 9
I may or may not have almost gotten blasted by 5 fainted Last Respects
Dw I lived
The game keeps giving me Irons and HP Ups instead of Calciums, that's why
I like how when @primal ore was doing the Hoenn E4 we were fucking labbing out every possible outcome
And here I am now spamming Rising Voltage 5 times and then finishing off with Core Enforcer
That's Glacia down now
My only mistake was using Rising Voltage vs Basculegion instead of Electro Drift tbh
Since Basculegion is tanky as hell
lyric radish
In 3 floors I'll have to do that too
sweet crypt
And the game has not been kind with calcium RNG
Basculegion was last mon so no ETerrain
That said, simply tank the 300 BP STAB move
lyric radish
Latios
I have a max shrooms Infront of me do I risk it by not taking it for the mega veanasaur or do I take it I'm on 179 and have mega bracelet but gyradosinite could also drop
sweet crypt
I have a max shrooms Infront of me do I risk it by not taking it for the mega ve...
Idk
Anyways, Dragapult would've been scary
Yknow if I wasn't already level 200
With 3 Carboses
sweet crypt
Gen 6
Kalos E4
I don't remember the ordering, but the other members are Wikstrom (or however you spell it), a Steel type trainer, Siebold, a Water type trainer and Drasna, the Dragon type trainer
Be careful, if my memory serves me correct Diantha has Xerneas
sweet crypt
Anyways, Steven outplayed me every single turn and still lost
Miraidon removes skill from the equation
coarse estuary
diantha has mega gardivoir no champ ever has ever had a box legend in a non hack
sweet crypt
diantha has mega gardivoir no champ ever has ever had a box legend in a non hack
We talking about Pokerogue so uhhh
Yeah
Ofc Diantha doesn't have fucking Xerneas in XY
Gamefreak isn't insane
coarse estuary
ah i didnt know yall was talking bout pokerouge my bad lol
unkempt egret
yea the highest BST a champ has in a mainline game is 700 on steven's mega metagross (followed up by 624 I think on diantha's mega gardevior)
sweet crypt
yea the highest BST a champ has in a mainline game is 700 on steven's mega metag...
I mean, 700 is higher BST than every single base form Box Art
lyric radish
Shiny charm on 188
sweet crypt
Lower than like
The Kyurem forms, Ultra Necrozma, the Primals, Mega Ray and pre nerf Zacian+Zamazenta
Oh speaking of Mega Ray
195 rival down
lyric radish
Diantha had both mega gardi and xern
sweet crypt
The game takes this time to remind me that Electro Drift is in fact a contact move
lyric radish
Both got OHKOed by my bird but still
sweet crypt
Alright, 2HKO on Emax
Pretty good
I didn't get good item luck so I couldn't OHKO
I tanked Dmax Cannon despite being overleveled somehow
Literally 5 button clicks, where one didn't matter
Core Enforcer 3 times on Miraidon, Topsy Turvy on Sableye to send it to -2 SpD, Curse just in case Miraidon faints
Which didn't matter since Miraidon didn't faint and that last hit KOd Emax
Miraidon gaming
I have gotten Opportunist and the 2nd cost down on Miraidon
I wonder if Opportunist copies boss stat boosts?
Does at least copy berries which is good considering everyone seems to have 50 thousand of those
I also unlock Snow Warning on Snom, this would've been useful for my Mono Moth run but oh well
I just realised I have a pretty much perfect Dewpider
Red shiny unlocked, maxed IVs, best nature unlocked, both Water Bubble and Water Absorb (though, who tf would use the latter), every egg move
In fact, it's in general almost completely maxed out
I'm only missing a small number of natures and the blue and yellow shinies
coarse estuary
i hope to start on my crystal leg of my genlocke tomorrow. been to sick to do anything but gen in the surviviors with their perk of becomin shiny
lyric radish
I got school in 5 hours do I sleep or do endless run or do monogen 2
sweet crypt
I got school in 5 hours do I sleep or do endless run or do monogen 2
Bro sleep wtf
sweet crypt
13 days and 13 hours worth of playtime on this account
Jesus christ
I passed 100 classic wins a long time ago apparently
lyric radish
Nolife
coarse estuary
well this is turning into the pokerouge is the only game we talk about and will ignore any non pokeroge talk channel again so rip my genlocke
sweet crypt
well this is turning into the pokerouge is the only game we talk about and will ...
Nah dw I still will interact with non Pokerogue stuff
Well, if I feel like I can say anything apart from "cool!"
lyric radish
Very time I'm here it's a pokerogue chat and the only time people talk for some reason
sweet crypt
I don't nuzlocke often I can't give much insight lmao
lyric radish
Nuzluck pokerogue XD
sweet crypt
I could continue my Elite Redux rando I guess
That'd give some non Pokerogue discussion maybe
lyric radish
To spirall back to pokerogue how does the move up egg machine work?
sweet crypt
To spirall back to pokerogue how does the move up egg machine work?
Increased rare egg move odds
coarse estuary
yeah it just sucks when i try to talk about non pokerouge things when this chat is on its pokerouge craze and i just get ignored. like when it first came out and it was becoming popular i didnt and still dont care for it so i was doing a casual run of white and was posting updates and whatever but because everyone was so pokerouge pilled my run just got ignored.
sweet crypt
Jesus christ my fucking rando luck is insane on this savefile wtf
lyric radish
I just play my games and don't rly think so I don't got many tips for normal games but pokerogue and competitive pokemon I play daily so they I can talk about for hours on end
Its 3 am and I'm still playing pokerogue ...
sweet crypt
Literally all you need to know that my rando luck is good rn
I'm pretty sure I'm following nuzlocke encounter rules rn too
So it's not like I just grinded encounters until I got this
This Raticate really just hit me with the triple protect
primal ore
I like how when <@464955803825078272> was doing the Hoenn E4 we were fucking la...
Im ngl it was pretty fun
sweet crypt
So I have a Lunala, and it has a psychic type variant of Aerilate
... And Boomburst
RNG take the wheel
lyric radish
Miraidon + rising voltadge = lunala + phsycic type boomburst > skill + luck
sweet crypt
Everywhere I go I see 0 balance
But at least this time the lack of balance is due to a randomiser
... Well, base Elite Redux isn't exactly balanced either ways
So yknow what, nevermind
lyric radish
Everywhere I go I see 0 balance
Just look at my sleep schedule it's very balenced
primal ore
i fucking hate pokerogue man
0 money
every member is dead
and i have to fight this
like its a cruel joke
nvm i caught it
sick anchor
i lost at one hundred something because of a g max garbodor
drifting sapphire
Began BDSP, started with chimchar and plan to use lucario and gengar
Other than maybe the gift mew from the save data bonuses in floaroma town, and possibly garchomp, what mons do y’all recommend for water, electric, and fairy?
I also might use carnivine cuz i have nostalgia for him and james in the Anime
vernal garnet
togekiss..? i think thats like the only fairy type in that game right
vital flare
togekiss..? i think thats like the only fairy type in that game right
ralts line
primal ore
how the fuck do i beat ghetsis bro
hes got genesect, slither wing, kingambit, hydreigon, basculegion and kyurem
he leads w genesect
silver topaz
Shiny snivy evolved yippeee
silver topaz
what game is this?
primal ore
pokerogue
silver topaz
sounds cool ima check it out after my b2 play through
primal ore
whats ur b2 team rn
primal ore
gym 4
primal ore
@sweet crypt i may need some elp
sick anchor
oh you use that too?
winged heart
Any recommendations on another fan game I should try out
sick anchor
Any recommendations on another fan game I should try out
pokemon xenoverse is good
primal ore
nvm im the fucking goat
open gulch
yerah u are
winged heart
@sick anchor cool ty I'll check it out
sick anchor
<@1137208636314230964> cool ty I'll check it out
Np
sweet crypt
yo how difficult is the paldea e4
Probably not too bad
sweet crypt
RIP
The Paldea E4 isn't too bad, Geeta herself is a bitch
Looking at your team, you probably get pretty terribly destroyed by Miraidon
You also have 0 comfortable Kingambit checks
(Skeledirge may tank a hit ig, and Excadrill maybe tanks Sucker Punch)
sweet crypt
RIP
primal ore
oh well il do another run later
lyric radish
time to play pokerogue 🙂 in school
sick anchor
what pokemon is good to fight ivy's rayquaza?
primal ore
taxel meowscarada is pretty good
you could also get zeraora a memory mushroom
for ice punch
sweet crypt
Taxel is a TM move or egg move for Meows iirc
Could be a bit troublesome to get
I know that it at the very least is a TM move
boreal storm
Who is the baddest pokemon
primal ore
Taxel is a TM move or egg move for Meows iirc
its an egg move yeah
i managed to find a taxel tm so i got lucky
sick anchor
bro i killed the rayquaza but she had one more pokemon and it one shot me
sweet crypt
RIP
sick anchor
i understand now why miraidon has 9 cost
sweet crypt
Miraidon gaming
lyric radish
uhm mega brac scope lense and HA charm by floor 7
sick anchor
what are some fast hard hitting ice mons?
brisk hedge
what are some fast hard hitting ice mons?
sick anchor
https://tenor.com/view/weavile-pokemon-anime-dance-gif-22707594
name 3 physical ice moves he learns by level up
sweet crypt
name 3 physical ice moves he learns by level up
Simply get egg move
Or Taxel TM
(Jokes aside, yeah good luck lmfao)
Maybe Dragon Dance Baxcalibur could work?
Wait no, that's a TM
lyric radish
name 3 physical ice moves he learns by level up
idk if they are levle up but aggility ice beam pelipper might work
make sure hes the first one out tho
sick anchor
make sure hes the first one out tho
k ill try it after this run
lyric radish
he gets aggility but doesent get icebeam by levle sadly
and no ice type egg move either
could try dragon dance ice fang (ice spinner as eggmove is better) gyrados
what is better suicune or blastoise (with eggmoves)
sick anchor
do i?
lyric radish
i would instead of uturn
brisk hedge
what alluring voice do?
lyric radish
think its chance to lower opponents spatk
and its fairy so just good for dragons in generald
sick anchor
what alluring voice do?
it confuses if they have a stat boost and does 80 bp
brisk hedge
I'd probably say to ditch that then
U-turn can be useful for pivoting after a tailwind
sick anchor
i have to go up against a roided dragon
brisk hedge
how much are you using quiver dance?
sick anchor
not that much
brisk hedge
Maybe ditch quiver dance then
brisk hedge
I would not keep that
lyric radish
i dident even though it was that or a sucky raticate that i still havent used im doing kantomono and im fighting lorelei without using the darn rat
silver veldt
I used a physical alakazam with focus punch once that killed a couple blisseys on showdown
lyric radish
ye couse they expect blissey to talk the focus blast and not a dang punch
wait who is the champ im kanto couse its not your rival
its blue
with a flying tera hooh who got OHKOed
blissful wraith
Anybody wanna do a nuzlocke or a race in pokemon emerald or firered or a rom hack like glazed or light platinum
Dm me if interested
sick anchor
what pokemon should i try to get?
lyric radish
Mewtwo
bold helm
what pokemon should i try to get?
sweet crypt
what pokemon should i try to get?
Something for Eternatus, that's like the one boss that Miraidon struggles with the most
That said I beat Eternatus in 3 turns with Miraidon so evidently it doesn't struggle that much with it
sweet crypt
Something for Eternatus, that's like the one boss that Miraidon struggles with t...
To elaborate, catch in general a lot of Pokemon, since the strat for Phase 2 Eternatus is mainly just using Salt Cure, Leech Seed etc to kill it
So Pokemon like Garganacl, (Mega) Venusaur and most Grass types in general
A Curse user also helps a lot
Though it has to be a bulky one, like Cofagrigus or Dusknoir, as there aren't many Curse users faster than Eternatus
Does Pult learn Curse? Probably right?
Though, Pult really would want other moves more
sick anchor
farthest ive made it all thanks to garganacl
coarse estuary
now that im feeling better today, time to start leg 2 of my genlocke. and how ill deal with champ pokemon is ill allow my self a max of 2 on the team at once just so the whole run isnt a 6 super buffed mon sweep
sick anchor
lost at 180 to brawley or whatever his name is
sweet crypt
now that im feeling better today, time to start leg 2 of my genlocke. and how il...
What does this sentence mean
Why would you need a special way to deal with Lance
I feel like just playing normally would work
Oh you mean what you'll do with your previous Pokemon that beat RBY
I feel like that'd just turn the run into 6 super buffed Pokemon wiping the floor with most of the game to 2 super buffed Pokemon wiping the floor with most of the game
coarse estuary
true but id also like my genlocke to not just be every leg using the team i beat gen 1 with, id like some variety and even then the buff mons can die early game or end game due to crits or bad rng
last egret
UNPOPULAR OPINION
Team Flare is more evil than Team Plasma
gusty umbra
i'm playing a normal only pokerogue run. any tips?
sweet crypt
UNPOPULAR OPINION
Team Flare is more evil than Team Plasma
In terms of goals, definitely
That said, Ghetsis has done some heinous shit to achieve his goal, more so than any other evil team leader
So I'd say it's arguable
sick anchor
i havent finished black and white is ghetsis really that bad?
sweet crypt
TLDR: Flare>Plasma, Ghetsis and Lysandre are harder to argue
sweet crypt
i havent finished black and white is ghetsis really that bad?
Yup, though I probably shouldn't spoil
sweet crypt
which game was plasma?
Plasma is Gen 5, Flare is Gen 6
sweet crypt
Plasma wanted to take over the world with Pokemon Liberation as a guise (the members who actually believed that shit, because no, Ghetsis didn't tell people about it, left between BW and B2W2)
Flare just wanted to kill everybody
gusty umbra
never played gen 6 games but i wanna play oras cause of my beloved
mega aggron
my glorious tank with hands and feet
coarse estuary
haven't played either to the point of meeting evil team, makes sense
how you meat the evil team in gen 5 right after you learn about pokemon centers
gusty umbra
i was trying gen 5 but then my friend told me to hop on lethal
so i forgot abt it
mid route 1 grind
sweet crypt
I cant remember when B2W2 mentions Team Plasma
But I have to imagine it's pretty early
coarse estuary
I cant remember when B2W2 mentions Team Plasma
||when you go to save the herdier in flocessy ranch||
sweet crypt
I know the first physical appearance of Team Plasma in B2W2 is Flocessy Ranch
lyric radish
Gen 2 team wish me luck
sweet crypt
Gen 2 team wish me luck
If you play your cards right, Scizor carries
gusty umbra
on my first ever run
lyric radish
its 1 point for 2 luck so
sweet crypt
With ease
sweet crypt
You just need to not miss Gear Grind
lyric radish
If you play your cards right, Scizor carries
thats what im hoping for but i cant use scyther before it evolves
lyric radish
chikorita is 2
ye im doing gen2
gusty umbra
or did you use candies
lyric radish
candies
sweet crypt
The set I use for Scizor is SD+Bullet Punch+Gear Grind+Bug Bite
lyric radish
most my mons got passive and after that i use the rest to make cheaper
sweet crypt
This is only effective if you have Tinted Lens
lyric radish
The set I use for Scizor is SD+Bullet Punch+Gear Grind+Bug Bite
bug bitE?!
sweet crypt
bug bitE?!
90 BP after Technician, STAB
Steals berries
And everyone loves to have 50 thousand of those
lyric radish
90 BP after Technician, STAB
isent X-scizor better
sweet crypt
isent X-scizor better
No, X-Scissor is 80 BP
gusty umbra
friendship ended with Pluck, now Bug Bite is my best friend
lyric radish
And everyone loves to have 50 thousand of those
thats in endless
sweet crypt
And doesn't get a Technician boost
sweet crypt
thats in endless
No, I still see 50 thousand berries in Classic
On my opponents at least
lyric radish
i thought it was 100Bp
gusty umbra
so many berries in classic
sweet crypt
i thought it was 100Bp
???
gusty umbra
and my zigzagoon NEVER PICKS UP THE GOOD ONES
lyric radish
x-scisoz
gusty umbra
I DO NOT NEED MORE LEPPAS
lyric radish
wery guud spelin
lyric radish
it srong
gusty umbra
. . .
sweet crypt
This is a moment of all time
gusty umbra
is dudunsparce pure normal?
sweet crypt
Truly a testament that you need 0 game knowledge to win Pokerogue
You just need broken egg moves
And passives
Anyways
sweet crypt
is dudunsparce pure normal?
Yes
gusty umbra
sweet crypt
Might be a main game egg move idk
sweet crypt
Oh I thought you were fighting a Dudunsparce lmao
sweet crypt
smeargle is there for salt cure btw
Smeargle is probably not getting that Salt Cure off on the one encounter where it matters the most
Assuming it gets targetted
sweet crypt
But Eternatus has brain damage
gusty umbra
it WILL target my linoone
sweet crypt
Literally clicking Sludge Bomb on a Scizor when it has Flamethrower
Actual fraud behaviour
gusty umbra
who will proceed to take a whole bar with double edge
then die from recoil
eternatus = weak to steal/fairy
gives eternatus flamethrower
sweet crypt
Anyways, the last time I used Scizor, it still had DiB
gusty umbra
uses poison on steel bug type
sweet crypt
Though, I don't think Gear Grind is much of a nerf
gusty umbra
what does gear grind do again?
sweet crypt
On account of how I was OHKOing everything comfortably at +2 anyways
sweet crypt
what does gear grind do again?
50 BP, 2 hits, 85 Accuracy
gusty umbra
ooh not bad
sweet crypt
The worst part is the accuracy
gusty umbra
anything from 95-80 dont even bother
sweet crypt
This is an effective 150 BP move for Technician users, down from the 180 of DiB
gusty umbra
30 = just use a different pokemon
sweet crypt
Scizor then gets STAB, and has Tinted Lens
gusty umbra
istg i get sand attacked once and miss everything, i use four and they hit me with a bloody sheer cold
sweet crypt
I've even brute forced quad resists like Magnezone in one hit
Heatran? Yeah, don't push it
gusty umbra
quad resist? sounds like a difficulty tweak to me
gusty umbra
why do the bug types with quad weaknesses have to be so goated
sweet crypt
is it ONLY the item for scizor or do i need lvl or smth too
Only the item
You just need to be lucky
gusty umbra
they just had to nerf them so hard
lyric radish
i hope you cant get the item in gen 1 monogen
sweet crypt
DiB->Gear Grind isn't terrible once you get Wide Lenses
lyric radish
i had scyther couse eviolite goes hard and never got a metal thingy
viral matrix
Thankfully, scyther is pretty decent
sweet crypt
Like I said, that 50+% flinch rate didn't matter much anyways
Since yknow
You're OHKOing everything after a SD
Except for quad resists, you probably need +4 for Magnezone, and if you stay in on Heatran or Volcanion, you have a mental illness
gusty umbra
if you stay in with SCIZOR against anything pseudo, legend, mythic or anything inbetween with a fire move you're cooked
and your scizor, burnt.
sweet crypt
Problem: +2 Bullet Punch hits very, VERY hard
lyric radish
just got shiny charm on F23
sweet crypt
And faster Pokemon tend to be frail enough to be OHKOd
Slower Pokemon get OHKOd by +2 Gear Grind instead
Only thing that can beat a Scizor is a lead Fire type
gusty umbra
scizor when it sees you get redirected to the volcano (it's the newest benchwarmer)
feraligatr takin over
sweet crypt
Sometimes, coverage Fire moves aren't enough, since Scizor does have decent bulk (more noticeable on Mega Scizor)
sweet crypt
scizor when it sees you get redirected to the volcano (it's the newest benchwarm...
Idk, if you manage to get a singular Swords Dance, you sweep Volcano biome easily
So like against some random ass breeder who tried to jump you
sweet crypt
or you just use mighty cleave
Too slow for the faster Pokemon
And if you outspeed, just use Gear Grind
gusty umbra
"hi i'm breeder eve" they say as they pull out a pokemon higher level than the champion of any region-
sweet crypt
Tinted Lens ensures the OHKO on everything except maybe Torkoal or Turtonator without Swords Dance
And with Swords Dance, it should just OHKO everything in the volcano, no exceptions
gusty umbra
personally if i was the champion of a region and some whack ass kid pulled up with pokemon higher level than mine, i'm shooting
brisk hedge
"hi i'm breeder eve" they say as they pull out a pokemon higher level than the c...
Eve's breeding super soldiers clearly
sweet crypt
Trust me on this, I've used Scizor on like 30 seperate runs
I know its strengths and weaknesses
And the latter is an extremely short list
gusty umbra
cloyster is hella good if you are able to get a water stone early
sweet crypt
I cannot stress enough that any Fire type outside of the lead slot is the same as any other Pokemon
gusty umbra
skill link + any of it's moves that hit 2-5 times
sweet crypt
Unless it's Heatran or Volcanion
gusty umbra
same with heracross but that has a 4xweakness so its riskier
sweet crypt
But why would you pick a fight with Mira or Buck when your main carry is Scizor?
lyric radish
getting all the infinity stones but in pokerogue XD
sweet crypt
You already know they're bringing those Pokemon
gusty umbra
"damn they packin a fire legendary...send out the bug steel type!"
bros feeding his crocodile the whole pharmacy
sweet crypt
Fire type legendaries in general could be scary if you don't have 2 SD boosts
Since legendaries have high natural bulk
lyric radish
bros feeding his crocodile the whole pharmacy
nah 2 of them i got from a shady dealer
sweet crypt
But most of them are not the lead slot, and not quad resists
brisk hedge
"damn they packin a fire legendary...send out the bug steel type!"
Are you sure a grass ice type wouldn't be better
gusty umbra
Are you sure a grass ice type wouldn't be better <:heehee:945800365457149992>
"send out obama! (snow)"
sweet crypt
Do you even have the metal coat yet?
lyric radish
no XD
sweet crypt
Whatever, taking it for later is probably a good idea
lyric radish
i did
sweet crypt
Also wait, I'm pretty sure Metal Coat doesn't evolve Scyther here and it's just a linking cord evo
Because yknow
... Wait, why couldn't they just force Metal Coat to use Linking Cord on Scyther?
I guess just because that'd be annoying as shit
gusty umbra
i have a question
if you trade a pokemon for a haunter, kadabra or smth else at the world trade thing
do you end up evolving it?
sweet crypt
if you trade a pokemon for a haunter, kadabra or smth else at the world trade th...
Idk
I already knew the question as soon as you said that and I don't know the answer
gusty umbra
it'd make sense to evolve it
sweet crypt
Though, I usually don't want to trade away any of the Pokemon I have, since I only catch Pokemon that I know will be useful
I probably should have useless Pokemon to sacrifice in the back
gusty umbra
i'd only trade a pokemon i brought solely for pokerus, after they spread it
sweet crypt
But for all I know it's gonna live the hit on 1 HP and force out a Pokemon that I didn't want to force out
sweet crypt
Pokemon abuse 👍
gusty umbra
you think team plasma is just animal rights activists on a large scale?
sweet crypt
you think team plasma is just animal rights activists on a large scale?
No, because the liberation thing was a front
A facade
A scam
A lie
Deceit
sweet crypt
How many times can I rephrase a word
gusty umbra
a few
a sHam
ngl teams slowly got more evil, then plummetted
crime organisation
permanent world change
sweet crypt
Ghetsis really did just adopt a son to use as a pawn in his master plan
sweet crypt
And manipulated his every action
gusty umbra
then just team skull
sweet crypt
To try to take over the world
sweet crypt
And was ready to instantly throw N away like a broken toy if he were to rebel
gusty umbra
legit just marnie's and piers' fans
sweet crypt
By his own hands if he had to
sweet crypt
There was that guy who argued that Ghetsis raising N makes him better than Giovanni
gusty umbra
i mean giovanni didnt have the time
sweet crypt
But idk I'd rather be abandoned than emotionally manipulated to do the most heinous shit ever
And have my father be ready to stab me in the back as soon as I stopped "being useful" to him
gusty umbra
i'd rather my dad not be there than have him there, then have him throw me away like nothing mattered
like dont drag it bro
you aint ninja
plus giovanni made BANK
bro has a whole organisation, business on selling stolen pokemo
and influence OVER REGIONS
sure its just kanto and johto
but thats still alot
sweet crypt
Yeah Kanto and Johto are connected by land
And other regions aren't
So it's a pretty different thing
gusty umbra
at least its not just a group of idiots in punk clothes screaming at people
lyric radish
latios could you dm me the scizor moveset couse ima grind but i wont be active on discord so it would be nice to just have down to check
gusty umbra
or wannabe thugs in skull accessories
and then team star...
they can NOT be lumped in as evil teams
with bad people like lysandre, giovanni and lance
i know lance was a champ/e4 member
bro was hella excessive on pain
hyper beaming a random grunt
with a pseudo legendary
what even was their motivation
being bullied?
lyric radish
poor scyther hes now the only non-fullyevolved pokemon i have left
sweet crypt
To be fair to Team Skull, they took over an entire town, fully
gusty umbra
they did good with the horrible group they had
i mean they're no rocket but its a start
do ANY of them even have a z ring?
coarse estuary
i think ima just stop postin bout my genlocke. its clear nobody is interested as my posts just get ignored
sweet crypt
i think ima just stop postin bout my genlocke. its clear nobody is interested as...
You've posted like 1 thing about it today
What am I supposed to say apart from what I already have
sweet crypt
Tbh if you didn't carry over the Pokemon, but instead carried over like, a level 1 instance of the species, that could be more balanced
Since otherwise you could just sweep every region with the exact same team without needing to worry about new encounters
By the time you find a matchup your team wouldn't be able to handle chances are you're overleveled so it doesn't matter
sweet crypt
steel types are amazing
Also, no shit
gusty umbra
how you gon worry about the e4 when you whippin out the same full level team
sweet crypt
Literal 2nd best, arguable best type in the game
coarse estuary
Tbh if you didn't carry over the Pokemon, but instead carried over like, a level...
thats now how a genlocke works you dont just get to carry over an exact copy of the species.
gusty umbra
steel types are only weak to fighting, fire and ground. but they're so bulky it barely matters
sweet crypt
thats now how a genlocke works you dont just get to carry over an exact copy of ...
I mean you made it sound like you directly traded over your champion team
Well ig you would struggle with obedience
But against a level 10 with like a level 50+ I somehow doubt that matters
If you trade over an egg or something I don't see why you'd need to apply any extra restriction
gusty umbra
"doesnt do a move for 5 turns, does one move, wins"
coarse estuary
https://nuzlockeuniversity.ca/nuzlocke-variants/generationlocke-variant/ i suggest you read this so you know what you are dealing with
gusty umbra
which game is he doin
sweet crypt
https://nuzlockeuniversity.ca/nuzlocke-variants/generationlocke-variant/ i sugge...
Yeah so I don't see why the arbitrary restriction of only 2 champion members from the previous games on a team at the time
gusty umbra
carrying even just 2 of them can be strong as hell
sweet crypt
I feel like the appeal would be being able to use any of your past Pokemon to craft a perfect team over the generations
gusty umbra
it's still two champion level pokemon against a new region
sweet crypt
carrying even just 2 of them can be strong as hell
(They start as the 1st stage version of the species)
sweet crypt
(I thought they didn't because of the added restriction of 2 champion Pokemon per team)
gusty umbra
unless it's single stage pokemon that're still strong
sweet crypt
steel types are only weak to fighting, fire and ground. but they're so bulky it ...
Tbh, Steel has an average number of weaknesses, all of them are terrible
The thing with Steel is that
Just
Look at that list of resistances
gusty umbra
i mean majority of fighting moves are physical
most steel types are physically high in defence
so thats less of a worry than special fire and ground type moves
at least it isnt grass
sweet crypt
Well I'm looking more at the type itself rn
gusty umbra
with fire, flying, bug, ice and poison
sweet crypt
Instead of the Pokemon
gusty umbra
fair
sweet crypt
at least it isnt grass
Funny you should mention Grass right after Steel
gusty umbra
it's got a few good strengths
sweet crypt
Because Steel/Grass may just be the best defensive type in the game
gusty umbra
ferrothorn lwk good as hell
sweet crypt
I guess Steel/Fairy might be better defensively
gusty umbra
until a fire type comes out, then in goes water type
sweet crypt
But it's hard to say
gusty umbra
yeah but there's so few steel/fairies
sweet crypt
Steel/Fairy is definitely better overall
gusty umbra
your options are a legendary, a gen 9 pokemon or mawile
sweet crypt
Klefki:
gusty umbra
and that
its forgettable
can you blame me
nothing stands out
its not part of the 1000th pokemon line, no mega and not legendary
just keys on a chain
sweet crypt
Grass/Steel is stacked with important resistances, and immunities to moves such as Powder moves (Spore included), Leech Seed and Toxic
It's a massive part of Ferrothorn's defensive identity
gusty umbra
plus ground is now neutral from grass
fighting i THINk is too
same with bug and flying
big weaknesses made easie
sweet crypt
You could give it many other types but I doubt most of them would make it consistently one of the best Pokemon in every tier it is available in
sweet crypt
fighting i THINk is too
False
Still weak to Fighting unfortunately
Ferrothorn can tank some Fighting and Fire moves though
The funniest example is Mega Diancie Mystical Fire in NatDex
Probably not a good trade
But a very, very funny one
sweet crypt
??? That literally doesn't matter?
gusty umbra
since when
sweet crypt
Steel/Grass is exactly the same to Grass/Steel unless youre fusing something in a fangame
gusty umbra
primary typing can matter
sweet crypt
They just add all the weaknesses and resistances together
sweet crypt
primary typing can matter
Maybe if you're AI manipulating in Gen 1
gusty umbra
yeah but a weakness+resistance=neutral
sweet crypt
yeah but a weakness+resistance=neutral
Grass doesn't resist Fighting
sweet crypt
You may be mixing it up with the other C tier or below type that is associated with green and early game
Speaking of that
I keep seeing people try to insist Ice is worse than Bug
And I'm like
?????
gusty umbra
huh?!
gusty umbra
ice is a great type!
sweet crypt
It has a singular redeeming quality defensively
And that is resisting itself
Because Ice just so happens to be a top 3 offensive type
gusty umbra
unlike a CERTAIN spiritual type and draconic type
sweet crypt
Just use your secondary STAB/Coverage lmao
sweet crypt
1 more than avg?
The main thing with Ice is that it only has 1 resist, itself
gusty umbra
like cloyster
sweet crypt
That's why it's so terrible defensively
Now let's look at the Bug type
Now, I will give the bug type some credit
gusty umbra
weak to flying, rock, fire
sweet crypt
It has a genuine, good defensive niche
gusty umbra
and lots of good pokemon
sweet crypt
Resists Fighting and Ground
gusty umbra
heracross, scizor, lokix
gusty umbra
cause so many pokemon have those
sweet crypt
And it's not Steel level of resistances
So it's definitely not a top tier defensive type
Offensively?
Give up
Just
Give up
sweet crypt
A bug type almost never uses its STAB
sweet crypt
unless its against a malamar
Who uses Malamar
gusty umbra
Who uses Malamar
dumb trainers in space
sweet crypt
There are exceptions like
Lokix with First Impression
Because First Impression is cracked
Scizor with Bug Bite in older generations I guess
gusty umbra
i mean any priority move is
sweet crypt
Newer generations not as much
sweet crypt
Heracross with Megahorn because why the fuck not, its big damage
That said, Heracross isn't exactly good
At least, not in today's standard
gusty umbra
i mean a 4x flying weakness is hard to handle
sweet crypt
Because the standard is stupid high
gusty umbra
he's not BUILT for them
gusty umbra
no electric or ice moves normally and very few exceptions for rock