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primal ore
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its magnet pull zap cannon

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i didnt put those moves on there

sweet crypt
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Magnezone maybe lives like

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Dascent

lyric radish
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oh shiii

sweet crypt
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High physical defence quad resist flying

lyric radish
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do i catch cobalion

sweet crypt
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So simply win the 50/50 with Zap Cannon

primal ore
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it lives a descent yeah

lyric radish
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i got 15 rouge balls but ima catch eturn this run too

sweet crypt
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If Rayquaza has V Create, give up

primal ore
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if i swap magnezone ivy swaps in volt absorb electivire

sweet crypt
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Alternatively, bait V Create

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And pray that Ivy stays in

sweet crypt
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Does your Excadrill have Rapid Spin?

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Maybe you can use that to outspeed Rayquaza coming back in to land some chip hits

primal ore
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no

sweet crypt
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Darn

primal ore
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like if there was vcs here id stream it

sweet crypt
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New plan: Restart and make sure you don't just instalose to Rival 145 or 195

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Imo these are the hardest stages in classic

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So if you can get past them, chances are you get past everything

primal ore
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i havent gotten past 145

lyric radish
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new plan: restart and have a glass cannon with a ice type move 🙂

primal ore
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floatzel?

sweet crypt
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Floatzel could work if you have Taxel as an egg move

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Other stuff are like

lyric radish
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bunary too

sweet crypt
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Taxel Sneasel

lyric radish
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Taxel mega lopunny does work

sweet crypt
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Ig Taxel Mlop

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But I doubt Lopunny KOs without Mega

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And I think without Mega it gets outsped

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And fishing for luck with mega stones before 145 sucks

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I fucking hate it

lyric radish
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i normaly got 1-2 mega before 145

sweet crypt
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I normally get 0

lyric radish
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payday meowth then you just reroll once every loot table unless you get somthing rly goot or carbos

sweet crypt
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And then get the mega as soon as it is least needed

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Did a run with Beedrill once

primal ore
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i got the mega band on floor 143

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so

sweet crypt
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Got the mega stone at 199 despite having high luck and constantly rerolling

lyric radish
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RIP

sweet crypt
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The entire run was misery

lyric radish
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i got map at 140 this run im on ...

sweet crypt
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Because I was using Beedrill

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And Beedrill is ass

primal ore
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yo nvm i got her down to just meow

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ive just gotta find the right pattern

sweet crypt
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I only use Megas if I have another hard carry or if I happen to get one coincidentally

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The latter only happens when I use Scizor because Scizor is the main Pokemon that just carries its weight, mega or not

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If you are struggling with 145 you may want to reset the run because 195 is 145 on crack

lyric radish
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by then he can get memory mush tho

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to get ice moves on more mons and get X items

sweet crypt
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I think the only other ice move on that team is

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Taxel from TM on Meows

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And ig Mountain Gale as an Excadrill egg move but lmao

lyric radish
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he must create another run hatch eggs get Mgale then memory mush it only exca XD

primal ore
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oh my fuck 4 down

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only 1 death

lyric radish
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W

sweet crypt
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Idk if you can use memory mushrooms to remember egg moves on wild caught pokemon

lyric radish
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i think you can might be wrong tho

sweet crypt
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I mean, I think I tried to memory mushroom a Pinsir I caught on my Mono Moth run before realising "oh right, moth only" and released it

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And I don't remember seeing the egg moves on it

primal ore
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nvm her baxcalibur just outspeeds everything i have ig

sweet crypt
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That's garbage RNG

primal ore
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yeah :/

sweet crypt
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That's probably one of the worst Pokemon Ivy can roll (for you, amazing for her)

lyric radish
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ive never had problems with bax

sweet crypt
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Maybe because you were using fucking Rayquaza

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Who outspeeds and OHKOs it

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Which is like no shit you wouldn't struggle with bax

lyric radish
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xd nah not on that run like ever

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even my first few runs

sweet crypt
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That's like using Miraidon and saying that Ivy's Mega Rayquaza is easy because your Miraidon folded it

lyric radish
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idk if you saw but my miraidon had +spd -atk nature and rising voltage 🙂

sweet crypt
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Yeah I saw

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I think legendaries are weighted to have their rare egg moves more often

lyric radish
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rly?

primal ore
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shes down to meowscarada

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who to swap

lyric radish
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magne if he outspeeds

primal ore
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he wont it has flower trick

sweet crypt
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"The odds of getting a rare egg move are 1/6 for legendary eggs, 1/12 for epic eggs, 1/24 for rare eggs, and 1/48 for common eggs."

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Quoted from the Pokerogue wiki

lyric radish
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he ca.. hes hp

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dang

primal ore
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nvm i die to leaf storm

sweet crypt
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Magnezone definitely is outsped by Meows

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Magnezone is like 60+ speed

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Meows is 120+

lyric radish
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your meow is prob slower too couse carbs

primal ore
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NVM I JUST FUCKING BEAT HER

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YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

sweet crypt
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I assume you went Meowscarada?

primal ore
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IM BETTER

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yeah

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meowscarada u turn just one shot lmfao

sweet crypt
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Meowscarada mirror match was the only way it could end

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Faster one wins

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End of story

lyric radish
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time to fight alder

sweet crypt
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Alder has Volcarona and Zekrom

primal ore
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huh

sweet crypt
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Those are probably his biggest threats

primal ore
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theres an alder fight?

lyric radish
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start by missing 2 95% acc moves in a row

sweet crypt
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If Zekrom rolls Bolt Beak and gets a Dragon Dance that's very scary

lyric radish
primal ore
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ok

lyric radish
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i got alder's efour and him

primal ore
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and then 195 is ivy again right?

lyric radish
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mhm

sweet crypt
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Yup

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200 is the final wave

lyric radish
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and paradoxes only on 190+

sweet crypt
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But the boss there is a bit of a fucking idiot

primal ore
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200 is emax eternatus

lyric radish
sweet crypt
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And loves using resisted moves

lyric radish
primal ore
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oh

lyric radish
primal ore
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oh wait

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oh

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thats awesome

lyric radish
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you need to beat normal to even try to beat emax

primal ore
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HOORAY

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i can mega evolve

lyric radish
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yo?!

sweet crypt
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Eternamax is stupid dw too much

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Base Eternatus' AI doesn't seem half bad though

primal ore
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hes so cool

sweet crypt
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If you are really worried about Emax, bring stuff like Leech Seed, Soak+Toxic, Salt Cure, Curse etc

lyric radish
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he might clutch

sweet crypt
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Keep in mind, base Eternatus has 130 speed and 145 SpA

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It is actually quite a lot more hard hitting than Emax

lyric radish
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can gliscor survive etern...

sweet crypt
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Of course, it is far more frail

lyric radish
sweet crypt
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130 speed is also insanely fast

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Your fastest Pokemon, Meowscarada, is 123 base speed

sweet crypt
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But Gliscor's base SpD is quite low and you can see that here

lyric radish
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thats what i need im poison heal 2x shell bell and 2 leftovers ill heal 100%

sweet crypt
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That's certainly not 100% in one turn

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But alright

lyric radish
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if i do good dmg it can be

sweet crypt
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Ig if you Protect it maybe is 100% in 2 turns?

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Idk

primal ore
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oh i forgot abt gym leaders lmao

lyric radish
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i also got spicky sheil for the lefties and poison to work more

sweet crypt
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Yeah you should be able to stall Etern out apart from Eternabeam and maybe Dmax Cannon

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At least, until it starts getting SpA boosts

lyric radish
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found a gouging fire

primal ore
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jasmine a bitch fr

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im better

lyric radish
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LMAO i got gouging fire in 4 normal pokeballs

primal ore
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good shit

lyric radish
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does gliscord tank fly from mega ray???

sweet crypt
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Gliscor has high physical bulk

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Depends on Rayquaza's stat boosts, items etc

lyric radish
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bro tanked

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402/632

sweet crypt
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Yeah he evidently does not have like 50 million sharp beaks

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Half the time I roll up to Mega Ray it has like

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An incomprehensible amount of sharp beaks

lyric radish
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freeze dry hurts from milotic....

sweet crypt
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No shit that's a quad SE move

lyric radish
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XD

sweet crypt
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That's like cutting off your leg and then being surprised that it hurts

lyric radish
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XD

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i mean he survived one

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just not 2...

lyric radish
sweet crypt
lyric radish
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i mean if did alot i would just protect then attack

sweet crypt
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I mean, even just 5 Sharp Beaks is already just absurd damage boost (100%)

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Fly is probably Mega Ray's least threatening Flying STAB

lyric radish
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ye

sweet crypt
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Partially because it contend with Dascent, Hurricane and I think Aeroblast too

lyric radish
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hurricane 💀

sweet crypt
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I still don't know what that move is

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Hurricane misses a lot but god fucking damn does it break holes in teams

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Hurricane probably OHKOd your Gliscor tbh

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Special attack and high power

lyric radish
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1 normal pokeball 1 legendary

primal ore
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hurricane is the bane of my existance

sweet crypt
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Paradoxes aren't legendaries but alright

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And at least in this game they certainly don't have the catch rate to match

lyric radish
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idc what you say he is a legend

sweet crypt
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Still not a legendary

lyric radish
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its a version of a legend

sweet crypt
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Is Blood Moon Ursaluna a legendary?

primal ore
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do the paradoxs of legendaries not count as legendaries

lyric radish
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no

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and ursaluna isent

sweet crypt
lyric radish
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they do

sweet crypt
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Paradoxes in Gen 9 are like what UBs are in Gen 7 in terms of mechanics

lyric radish
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i survived eternabeam and OHKO normal eturnatus....

sweet crypt
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And as far as I am concerned, neither are legendaries

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Unless explicitly stated otherwise

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Like for example

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The 2 bullshit bikes

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They're so minmaxed it's almost funny

lyric radish
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chat

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we got em

sweet crypt
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(I actually like them a lot tbf)

sweet crypt
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I mean you cheated in a ton of vouchers so I can't really go "wow what an amazing achievement" but still

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Have you beaten all the gym leaders and elite 4s yet?

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Like the first 80% of them were easy but man those last few gym leaders just did not show up

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I got like 10-15 tates before getting a liza (or was it vice versa?)

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Actually fucking insane

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And don't even get me started on Ryme

lyric radish
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My second maxed pokemon

sweet crypt
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Can you even call it maxed if you don't have the rare egg move?

primal ore
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is the mysterious chest worth?

sweet crypt
primal ore
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i mean

lyric radish
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what are the odds for legendary eggs to be shiny ive goten 16 rayquazas and not a single shiny i got all the moves i got passive and maxed the price but no dang shiny

primal ore
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last time i went to the pokies i walked in w $20 and out w $400

sweet crypt
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1/128 i think

sweet crypt
primal ore
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did i win what

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oh the chest

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i didnt open it lmao im watching my mate play tarkov

sweet crypt
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Open it and simply get lucky

primal ore
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i do need more money tho

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down to my last 1k

lyric radish
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latios you want to make me a monogen 1 team

sweet crypt
lyric radish
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...

sweet crypt
lyric radish
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you cant

sweet crypt
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I wouldn't know since I've only run mono gen 5

lyric radish
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its where the pokemon originaldly came from

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i do have eviolite unlocked tho

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got it last run xd

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poor bunary was only a sac if i needed clean switch

sweet crypt
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I remember Gyarados doing well

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Though you probably need Dascent and Surging Strikes for it

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Surging Strikes being rare egg move

lyric radish
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i got all egg moves on magikarp

sweet crypt
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Probably Venusaur for Eternatus

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And hope for mega

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So that you get Thick Fat

lyric radish
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missing rare eggmove for vean

sweet crypt
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Shouldn't be needed

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You probably want a Ground type to support Gyarados

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Probably one of the Nidos

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Tbh I'm not too certain on what to bring for this

lyric radish
sweet crypt
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Especially since this team I thought of probably struggles with Mega Ray

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Maybe Cloyster for Mega Ray actually

lyric radish
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gyra got ice spinner tho

sweet crypt
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Should tank any physical hits, and if it is special, just try to set up beforehand

sweet crypt
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And +2 could be risky depending on Ivy's Pokemon

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Or whatever the male rival's name is idk

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Finn or something like that

lyric radish
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its finn

sweet crypt
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Anyways, as general tips for this run

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Gyarados' set should always include Dascent, Surging Strikes and Dragon Dance

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Last move can be Ice Spinner, Power Whip, EQ, and probably other moves I'm forgetting rn

lyric radish
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do i use doduo as last mon he has Taxel patental bond

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and gets swords dance normaly i think

sweet crypt
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If you use Cloyster, try to set up Shell Smash ASAP, but don't blindly use it on stuff like special attackers

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Idk if Dodrio is the play tbh

primal ore
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holy shit

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a normal tera shard

lyric radish
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he is pretty fast and packs a punch

primal ore
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thank you rng gods

sweet crypt
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I think Mega Ray outspeeds Carbosless Dodrio

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So if it has equal or more Carbos than you, it's over

lyric radish
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then i dont make him carbless

sweet crypt
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Cloyster for Mega Ray is more safe for sure

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Though it is quite a lot more expensive

primal ore
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in my genius i thought clamperl evolved into cloyster

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imagine my suprise when a huntail appeared

sweet crypt
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Anyways, you should put most of your HP Ups and Zincs into Venusaur

primal ore
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i was pissed off that i just reset the run

sweet crypt
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In preperation for Eternatus

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Synthesis and Leech Seed are no brainers

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At least in my opinion

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STABs are good, Earth Power is good

lyric radish
sweet crypt
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If you have a Soak user, Toxic could be fun

sweet crypt
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Could also double as STAB

coarse estuary
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Leg 1 of the genlocke is down. No e4 deaths. Final 6 were Blastoise Jolteon Raticate fearow vileplume arbok. On to leg 2 crystal

sweet crypt
primal ore
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itd be great if you could swap the vitamins

coarse estuary
sweet crypt
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Would've been very cool if they did

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If I did nuzlockes frequently and practised the games I might actually do that

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Maybe a long time into the future I'll be thinking of what to do and try to see if I had any plans listed in this server idk

primal ore
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yo who could i turn into tera psychic

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mega medicham would be the obvious answer no?

sweet crypt
primal ore
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floor 180

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im abt to do e4

sweet crypt
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I'm not entirely sure if I'd use it

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Mainly because if you're unlucky, you match into Sydney

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And he sucker punches your Medicham

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Into the next dimension

primal ore
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i mean the other choices are x speed, pokeballs, nugget and super lure

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yeah true

sweet crypt
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I prefer being safe

lyric radish
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i would take x speed

primal ore
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i was thinking that

sweet crypt
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Yeah X speed sounds good

primal ore
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i bless the rains in africa

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(100% acc stab thunder)

sweet crypt
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Why does Cosmog cost 7

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I mean I'm a massive Lunala fan

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But none of its egg moves are extremely impactful unlike every other box art legend

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Making them lower tier for sure

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And you start as Cosmog

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Should be 6 cost tbh

lyric radish
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its 6:18AM i have not yet slept do i sleep or do i keep playing pokerogue

sweet crypt
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Lunala probably isn't bottom 2 legend

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But Solgaleo is easily bottom 1

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In Pokerogue I mean

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Solgaleo is still a bottom 1 contender in normal Pokemon but it isn't just undisputed ass

primal ore
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really?

sweet crypt
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Solgaleo is just not a good box art

primal ore
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its steel psychic no?

sweet crypt
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And then you realise it is also heavily outclassed by NDM

primal ore
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is it physical or special

sweet crypt
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Steel/Psychic is a good type but tbh, it'd have been better off with so many other steel dual types

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Steel/Psychic is probably like a mid tier steel pairing comparitively mainly because most steel type pairings are top tier pairs

primal ore
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steel/water is great

sweet crypt
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Think of your steel/grasses, steel/waters, steel/bugs, steel/fires, steel/flyings, steel/grounds, etc etc etc

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steel/ghost

primal ore
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steel bug?

sweet crypt
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Mainly defensively

primal ore
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i mean its quad weak to fire but thats it right?

sweet crypt
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Most of the listings I put down are purely thinking of defensive prowess

primal ore
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thats valid

sweet crypt
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And a good few resists

primal ore
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actually yeah thats kinda goated

sweet crypt
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Also Steel/Fairy

primal ore
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tinkaton my beloved

sweet crypt
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Steel/Fairy and Steel/Grass are probably the top 2 best defensive types

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Tbh the entire top 5 of defensive types are probably steel types

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Just that Steel/Fairy and Steel/Grass stand out amongst them

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Everywhere Ferrothorn is available, it is a great pick for your team

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Gens 5-8 OU and Ubers basically

primal ore
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@sweet crypt holy shit ur a mind reader

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guess what e4 member i got lmao

sweet crypt
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And its type is certainly a good reason why

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I'm simply built different ig

primal ore
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bro has too many runs

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what type is sidney

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dark?

sweet crypt
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Anyways, I think the most scary E4 in Pokerogue is probably the Blueberry Academy E4

sweet crypt
sweet crypt
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Excluding like

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Early forced sea routing without a water resist

primal ore
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overquil doesnt have levitate right?

sweet crypt
primal ore
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eq excadrill enters the room

sweet crypt
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I don't remember exactly what it has, but I know it has Swift Swim

primal ore
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thats concerning

sweet crypt
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Dw if rain isn't up you simply outspeed

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Zekrom from the Miraidon Legendary Up egg you have got to be kidding me

primal ore
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punk rock skeledirge

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i love you so much

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sidney down

sweet crypt
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I assume you know the order of the Gen 3 Elite 4?

primal ore
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nope

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whose next

sweet crypt
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Ah

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Well next is Phoebe, the Ghost type Elite 4 member

primal ore
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ik nothing abt gen 3

sweet crypt
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Followed by Glacia, the Ice type Elite 4 (she'll probably have a snow setter, she spams that move in the games)

primal ore
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ive played gen 5 on my dsi and then IF, pixel/cobblemon

sweet crypt
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Then Drake, the Dragon type Elite 4 member

primal ore
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black 2 emulated

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ok ive got answers for everyone

sweet crypt
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There are 2 possible champions, Champion Steven Stone, the Steel type trainer, and Champion Wallace, the Water type trainer

primal ore
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what teams do they run

sweet crypt
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Champions all have 1 random Pokemon

primal ore
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ive got overdrive on skele and magnezone

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and also skele for stevens steel types

sweet crypt
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Steven in Pokerogue has 4 of his normal members (Skarmory, Mega Metagross, Aggron, Armaldo and Cradily, though he only has one of Armaldo or Cradily)

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Additionally, he has Dialga

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Wallace has Pelipper, Mega Swampert, Milotic, Ludicolo and Palkia

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Don't ask why these Gen 3 trainers have Gen 4 box art legendaries

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I dont know

primal ore
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thats so awesome

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also skele is dead

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i thought he could one shot jellicent

sweet crypt
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Jellicent is pretty fat

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As you have found out the hard way

primal ore
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meowscarada the goat

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solod w knock off

sweet crypt
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Also, TIL, the random Pokemon must match their speciality

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As for trainers with no speciality like Nemona

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Uhhh

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I dunno

primal ore
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gl to me ig lmao

sweet crypt
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Anyways, Glacia has Glalie, Walrein, Froslass, Abomasnow and 2 random Ice types

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While Drake has Altaria, Salamence, Flygon, Kingdra and 2 random Dragon types

primal ore
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froslass as snow cloak right?

sweet crypt
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Probably

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Try to lure it out before Abomasnow

primal ore
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and abomasnow sets up snow

sweet crypt
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So that you don't have to deal with it

primal ore
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yeah i was thinking of leading w skele

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since the ghost into ghost

sweet crypt
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Dirge probably lures out Walrein, then Froslass

primal ore
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walrein is a fat fuck so he'll most likely tank a overdrive

sweet crypt
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NPCs typically prioritise their advantages over their disadvantages

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So they'd see a Ghost type as a better Ghost type answer than say, a Steel type

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In my experiences at least

primal ore
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oh real

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what would u suggest i lead w then

sweet crypt
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Damn why is Taxel a common TM that's wild

sweet crypt
primal ore
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thats crazy

sweet crypt
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Not sure how Dirge will fare with Froslass though

primal ore
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i mean dirge has a calcium, a hp up and 2 carbos

sweet crypt
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Keep in mind that Glacia has 2 random Ice types

primal ore
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yeah true

sweet crypt
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Pray that neither are Baxcalibur

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Because that could be run ending

primal ore
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literally

sweet crypt
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Ice is also the type with the least Pokemon

primal ore
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ok sick just realised dirge is 10 levels lower then the entire team

sweet crypt
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So Bax has a higher chance of being randomly picked

primal ore
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nvm i cant swap my members anyway

sweet crypt
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Alright new plan

primal ore
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ig scarada is leading

sweet crypt
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Hit the Walrein as usual

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With Overdrive

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And then have the balls to hard swap to Meowscarada predicting a Water move

primal ore
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im gonna be able to outspeed

sweet crypt
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Probably just U-Turn on Glalie right

primal ore
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i just dunno if i can kill it w flower trick

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probably

sweet crypt
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I doubt Meows OHKOs Glalie with Flower Trick

primal ore
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i mean even if i do die il just reset

sweet crypt
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AI likes to try to predict on turn 1 so idk if Dirge is safe

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They may Crunch on predicted swap

primal ore
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oh lmfao i thought i was going into glacia

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nvm its just a battle in between i can swap

sweet crypt
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💀

primal ore
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ok so the plan

sweet crypt
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Didn't you already notice that between Sidney and Phoebe?

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I think lead Dirge into predicted Walrein into hard swap to Meows maybe works?

primal ore
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no i did i just thought i alr beat the fight in between

sweet crypt
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But it's risky since the AI sometimes tries to predict

primal ore
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ight

sweet crypt
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Best case scenario is that Dirge outspeeds Walrein and 2HKOs

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Worst case scenario is that it predicts you swapping to Meows and Blizzards or something

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Except, Meows would lure in Abomasnow for sure

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Maybe U-Turn into Dirge predicting Ice move? Idk

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Maybe simply risk the Snow Cloak evasion chance

primal ore
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she sent out tera ice darmanitan

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im shit scared

sweet crypt
primal ore
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HOW DO YOU THINK I FEEL

sweet crypt
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I think your only faster mon is Meowscarada

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You may be cooked

primal ore
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nvm dirge is a fucking goat

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one shot torch song

sweet crypt
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That's probably one of the worst Pokemon she could've rolled

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Nice OHKO though

primal ore
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into lapras

sweet crypt
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The damage you dealt to Garmanitan was always gonna be 100% on SE

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Alright we know the 2 random Pokemon now

primal ore
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LOL

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big dirge ohko

sweet crypt
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It's just that Galarian Darmanitan hits like a shitton of bricks

primal ore
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ik

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gorilla tactics is scary

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froslass is out

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i assume just shadow ball?

sweet crypt
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Torch Song would be better for the SpA

primal ore
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true

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3 down

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glalie

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Was your Skeledirge outspeeding anything?

primal ore
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its outsped the first two

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the only reason i wasnt hit by blizzard is bc it missed

sweet crypt
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Alright if you outspeed Garm you outspeed Glalie

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Torch Song away

primal ore
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ok im +4 spatk i should sweep from here

sweet crypt
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You definitely outspeed Abomasnow and Walrein

primal ore
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100%

sweet crypt
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So hopefully Walrein doesn't just eat your hit and say "nuh uh"

primal ore
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ez

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3 e4 down

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just lance

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should i swap meows or M medi

sweet crypt
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It's Drake btw not Lance

primal ore
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oh same diff

sweet crypt
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I dont know if you have anything for Dragon, but he should lead Altaria

primal ore
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theyre both dragon trainers

sweet crypt
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So do what you will with that info

primal ore
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ive got alluring voice and overdrive on dirge

sweet crypt
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In fact, 3 of his 4 guaranteed Pokemon are quad weak to Ice

primal ore
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play rough meows

sweet crypt
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(Altaria, Mence and Flygon)

primal ore
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oh perfect ice punch on mega medi

sweet crypt
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Also has Kingdra but Mega Medi outspeeds it

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So it comes down to the random 2

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I think most notable is Archaludon since it could prevent a full sweep with Sturdy

primal ore
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inshallah its not baxcalibur

sweet crypt
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Unless Drake is running Rain Dance on Kingdra Archaludon shouldn't be too problematic

primal ore
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kommo-oh is first

sweet crypt
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Ah, alr

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Should still be fine

primal ore
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ice punch?

sweet crypt
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Mega Medi hits for SE with Zen Headbutt if you have it

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You want that STAB boost

primal ore
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yeah i do

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ok he swapped into altaria

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its dead

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kingdra is out

sweet crypt
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Didn't even need Ice Punch rip bozo

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Wait no Drake kinda outplayed you there

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Kingdra may be able to tank a hit

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Uhhh

primal ore
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nah should be fine

sweet crypt
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Simply HJK and land

primal ore
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it didnt even do half...

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i have axe kick

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thatl do right?

sweet crypt
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Ok

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Ye

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Just don't miss

primal ore
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ok yeah kingdra dead

sweet crypt
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Good

primal ore
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tera mence

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Idk if Zen Headbutt KOd there

primal ore
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ice punch

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Tera is a bit scary since you're only 2× SE now

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se?

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And it is Intimidate

sweet crypt
primal ore
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oh right makes sense

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So basically, you have 66% power and only do 2 times more damage with Ice Punch instead of 4 times

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Could be a bit risky staying in

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rough he one shot w hurricane

sweet crypt
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Darn

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Did it outspeed?

primal ore
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nah he just tanked

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its fine i swapped in meows he swapped into kommo

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kommo dead

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Yeah if you're willing to reset save just sacrifice something there to bring Medicham back in

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Because you probably OHKO without Intimidate Attack drop

primal ore
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grass is se against ground or is it the other way

sweet crypt
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Mega Medicham is probably your most valuable Pokemon

primal ore
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im down to his 2nd flygon

sweet crypt
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So not having it for Champion would suck

primal ore
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i mean il have enough money to full restore

sweet crypt
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Flygon would be neutral to Flower Trick

primal ore
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oh true

sweet crypt
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(Ground weak vs Grass, Dragon resist Grass)

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So you Play Rough and hope you don't miss ig

primal ore
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ive got wide lense it doesnt miss

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ok i win

sweet crypt
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Alright, so this is tough

primal ore
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hes alive again

sweet crypt
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If this is Steven, Skeledirge is your best possible lead

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If this is Wallace, it is your worst possible lead

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And you have 0 good leads

primal ore
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wait why did my luck drop lmao

sweet crypt
primal ore
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oh shit thats a thing

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medicham is shiny lmfao

sweet crypt
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Actually if you get X Speed

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Then lead Dirge no matter what

primal ore
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i did not get an x speed

sweet crypt
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Otherwise, Dirge is either your worst lead or best lead

primal ore
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lets just pray i get steven

sweet crypt
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Wallace would lead with Pelipper, while Steven leads with Skarmory

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If Wallace's Pelipper has Drizzle (I'm not sure if abilities are hard locked) you're in for a tough time

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Swift Swim Mega Pert probably outspeeds Meowscarada

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So pray for Steven

primal ore
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inshallah i get steven

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god

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fucking

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damn it

sweet crypt
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Alright, Dirge+Medicham should do well here

primal ore
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it set up drizzile

sweet crypt
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???

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You sure you didn't get Wallace?

primal ore
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i did get wallace wdym

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im looking at his pelipper rn

sweet crypt
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Welp

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This will be tough

primal ore
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i should outspeed w overdrive

sweet crypt
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Hopefully

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But Mega Swampert is a massive threat now

primal ore
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ok pelican is dead

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oh fuck it gets swift swim doesnt it

sweet crypt
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I think it outspeeds your entire team in Rain

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And Swampert does get coverage that is SE against Grass

primal ore
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what does he get

sweet crypt
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Ice Punch, Superpower, I think Mountain Gale from egg moves

primal ore
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oh he gets hammer arm

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oh yeah

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And Hammer Arm

primal ore
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that too

sweet crypt
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Pray for bad moveset, or bad speed IVs, or speed lowering nature, or no carbos

primal ore
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inshallah

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ok milotic is out

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itl 100% tank an overdrive right?

sweet crypt
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Probably

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Tbf, Dirge isn't very good in this MU anyways

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May be best to sacrifice for damage

primal ore
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yeah a bit under half

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hes gone

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rip steve irwin

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meows would be next no?

sweet crypt
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Meows should KO Milotic

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But Mega Pert is possibly faster than it

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Oh, and he has Palkia

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And I doubt you OHKO Palkia with Play Rough

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If you take out Mega Pert and Palkia things should become a lot easier

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I wouldn't say it's a guaranteed win though, since Wallace has that one random Pokemon

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For all you know he's about to bust out Volcarona and Quiver Dance on your ass

primal ore
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why does he have volcarona

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thats fucked

sweet crypt
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Wait does he actually have one?

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I just gave it as an example of a random Pokemon he can have

primal ore
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i have no clue

sweet crypt
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Since he can have a random non paradox, UB or legendary Pokemon

primal ore
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i got outplayed

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he swapped into palkia

sweet crypt
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Yikes

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How much damage did you do?

primal ore
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HOLY FUCK MEGA MEDI HUNG ON W FOCUS BAND

sweet crypt
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W

primal ore
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the space god is dead

sweet crypt
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If Meowscarada is still alive, I think Rain ends soon

primal ore
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ok mega pert is out

sweet crypt
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So I think you can win

primal ore
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meow is not alive

sweet crypt
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Should still be possible

primal ore
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idk what to swap to lol

sweet crypt
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Since at least it won't outspeed anything

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What Pokemon do you have left, and what have you KOd?

primal ore
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i mean should i just sack medi

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ive got phione exca and magnezone

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not much choice

sweet crypt
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Maybe send in Phione?

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Mega Medicham is still decently fast

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And should be capable of doing massive damage even if it would die soon after

primal ore
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its plus 3 spdef

sweet crypt
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Who?

primal ore
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pert

sweet crypt
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Bro has Amnesia or some shit?

primal ore
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yep

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I still think keeping Medicham would be the best play

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It might OHKO Ludicolo

primal ore
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LOL

sweet crypt
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And could potential pick off a damaged Mega Pert

primal ore
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pert is dead

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axe kick nailed it

sweet crypt
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Nice

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Nice

primal ore
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ludicolo is dead

sweet crypt
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As expected

primal ore
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its just milotic and smth else

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milotic dead

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.

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If he's hesitating to send out the last Pokemon, it may be weak to Medicham

primal ore
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fucking probopass

sweet crypt
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Yup, definitely weak to Medicham

primal ore
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ok so its got sturdy

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even then ive got exca

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nvm it steel beamed

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it killed itself

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we're just better really

sweet crypt
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... You said Ivy's starter is Meows

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God that's tough

primal ore
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yeah lol

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i was like thank fuck it wasnt smth good

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my 3 starters were dirge meows and phione

sweet crypt
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Meows is a top tier starter for sure

primal ore
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phione was purely for luck

sweet crypt
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And then it also has a stupidly buffed Magician as a passive

primal ore
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and for a water

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There's a chance Ivy sucks at teambuilding and Meows doesn't have Dark STAB

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In which case, Dirge solos it

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But Dirge might force it out either ways

primal ore
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its got knock off

sweet crypt
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And it's not entirely impossible that she sends out Mega Ray

primal ore
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oh yeah the paradox mon

sweet crypt
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You need to have hatched them to catch them

primal ore
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oh rough

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i can only catch iron bundle lmao

sweet crypt
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Bundle is one of the best Paradoxes tbf

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And it would be good for Ivy's Meowscarada and Mega Ray

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Yknow, if it weren't underleveled

primal ore
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yeah

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im just gonna use all my vouches on the shiny machine

sweet crypt
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I'd probably roll on Miraidon machine

primal ore
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real?

sweet crypt
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Miraidon would stomp the entire game up until Emax and maybe a bulky ground

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Including base Eternatus

primal ore
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hmmmm

sweet crypt
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I'd probably still have a backup plan for Mega Ray

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Miraidon's main weakness is its cost

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It costs 9

primal ore
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oh holy fuck

sweet crypt
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It's definitely the most worth 9 for classic except maybe Kyogre imo

primal ore
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also thank you for the help for the last 3 hours lmfao

sweet crypt
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No problem

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Tbh this is a lot more fun than just steamrolling the game neg diff myself

primal ore
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this is probably the most theory crafting ive ever had to do for pokemon lmao

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ok mega ray is out

sweet crypt
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If you have an X Speed, you probably beat it

primal ore
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i miss clicked

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its joever

sweet crypt
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Otherwise I could see this being a problem

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Rip

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Idk if Mega Medicham Ice Punch OHKOs

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4 boss bars

primal ore
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its fine il reset

sweet crypt
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And it's only 2× weak to Ice because of Delta Stream

primal ore
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oh shit true

sweet crypt
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Honestly if they wanted to, instead of nerfing Miraidon, they could've made it 10 cost

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Because like

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Dragon Energy

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Rising Voltage

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Ice Beam

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Quark Drive passive on top of Hadron Engine

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What the hell

primal ore
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exca is dead

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alomolola and corviknight are dead

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i have no clue what to swap in

sweet crypt
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What did Ivy swap in?

primal ore
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im guessing either electivire or ray

sweet crypt
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Or did you faint to Iron Barbs

primal ore
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she fainted to recoil

sweet crypt
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Yeah tbh

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Idk what you send in

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I'd say if Meowscarada is alive, send it in

primal ore
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ight

sweet crypt
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And if it's Mega Ray, Play Rough and pray

primal ore
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real lmfao

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yeah its mega ray

sweet crypt
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If it's Electivire, idk if you OHKO with Flower Trick

primal ore
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one bar

sweet crypt
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Yikes

primal ore
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ohko hyper beam

sweet crypt
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Wait that's a free turn

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Mega Medicham?

primal ore
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alr done

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medi is dead

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but ray is down to 1 bar

sweet crypt
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What are your remaining Pokemon?

primal ore
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phione magne and dirge

sweet crypt
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Maybe Magnezone?

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What moves does it have?

primal ore
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hopefully it goes hurricane

sweet crypt
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Don't hope for Hurricane, that would actually hurt

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Hope for Fly or something

primal ore
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ok electivire is dead

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magne is low tho

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dirge vs ray

sweet crypt
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Maybe Dirge can live a hit? Idk

primal ore
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i dont live a hurricane

sweet crypt
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This isn't looking like the run

primal ore
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im dead lol

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its fine i reset

sweet crypt
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If Mega Ray doesn't have Lum Berries, maybe you can try to paralyse it with Magnezone

primal ore
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ive just gotta pray that thunder hits lmfao

sweet crypt
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Maybe if you got Ray to swap into Meowscarada

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You could get 2 Play Roughs

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And then maybe if it Hyper Beams to KO you KO with Mega Medi Ice Punch

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I assume the AI would prioritise swapping Corv in first

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So you'd have to either chip it or KO it

primal ore
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elect and alo are dead

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everyone is alive

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dirge is half

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rays out

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most likely going for hurricane

sweet crypt
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Hmm

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Either pray it misses and land a hit

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Or sacrifice something

primal ore
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goodbye magne

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you think meows?

sweet crypt
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Idk

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This is tough

primal ore
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il try medi and if that doesnt work il go meows

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ok it crit me lmao

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one bar down tho

sweet crypt
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Be honest to yourself, does the crit matter?

primal ore
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no

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ok i was close

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ray was on 1 bar

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same w meows

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@sweet crypt guess what fucking mon she has

sweet crypt
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She already revealed it earlier I assume?

primal ore
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no

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2nd last mon

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idk if this is possible

sweet crypt
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I cant be 100% sure since Ivy seems to sometimes swap Pokemon between encounters

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But I think you did mention Bax at 145

primal ore
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i did

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alo is literally a sand anchor so its a 5v6

sweet crypt
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I vividly remember Ivy ditching all the Pokemon that checked mine for worthless garbo

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And vice versa

primal ore
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her team is alo, elect, ray, corvin, meows and bax

sweet crypt
primal ore
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:)

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ok so rays out against dirge

sweet crypt
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Corv, Meows and Bax

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Yikes

primal ore
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from here i pivot into magne to tank

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since it knows ive got thunder its gonna go into elective and i go into exca

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but since it sees ive got eq

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it goes into corvin

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so i pre-empt the rock slide

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corvins dead

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exca half health

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from here its kinda anyones game

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i could rock slide but that means sacking exca

sweet crypt
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I think you want Medicham to land the KO blow on Mega Ray

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Since it's your best mon at handling Bax

primal ore
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yeah 100%

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you reckon i rockslide then sack exca into medi then?

sweet crypt
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You said earlier that Medicham does 2 bars, correct?

primal ore
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yeah

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but ray hasnt used its enigma berry so it gains a bar

sweet crypt
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You may want to try to bait out Hyper Beam so that Medicham lands a safe hit once Ray reaches 2 bars

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CAN I HAVE OWNER 💯

sweet crypt
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Preferably something that isn't resistant to Normal

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But seriously, Ray probably outspeeds and OHKOs Medicham

primal ore
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i mean i could go skele

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for hb

sweet crypt
primal ore
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true

sweet crypt
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Sacking something to let Medicham get the hit might be better?

primal ore
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alr

sweet crypt
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Probably is

primal ore
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exca is sacked

sweet crypt
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I mean idk what Phione does for you in this MU tbh

primal ore
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i only picked it for the luck im ngl

sweet crypt
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Phione used to have Simple QD

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And that shit slapped

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They removed it though

primal ore
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oh

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ok elects dead

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nvm i lost that fight

sweet crypt
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How long have you been attempting this again?

cloud lark
sweet crypt
primal ore
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4 hours

sweet crypt
primal ore
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god i love simple volcarona

sweet crypt
primal ore
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:)

sweet crypt
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+2 0 SpA Tinted Lens Venomoth Stored Power (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 174-206 (53.8 - 63.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Heatran Magma Storm vs. +2 0 HP / 0 SpD Venomoth: 170-204 (60.4 - 72.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after trapping damage

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Hey yknow what

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At least it doesn't beat Heatran

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Ignore the Earth Power

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And to think some players cry about the game not being broken enough

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When Rising Voltage Miraidon is a thing that exists

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Oh it also has Ice Beam because fuck you Ting-Lu

cloud lark
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Stored Power is such a funny move. It can get to such absurd power, but it's more of a canary in the coalmine for Pokemon or strategies that are broken even without it

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Like yeah, Espathra absolutely ruined SV online for a few weeks when people realized how good it was, but it has great Psychic STAB in Lumina Crash so it would still be a menace without Stored Power

sweet crypt
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Lumina Crash may be the most unfortunate move of all time

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It's so damn good but it doesnt even matter because why run it when you can run Stored Power

primal ore
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yo

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idk if i can do this

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like if there was vcs here id stream it

sweet crypt
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Consider resetting and being more prepared

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Either that or continue struggling idk

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I just want to mention that Scizor wasn't the only Steel type Technician Double Iron Basher before DiB distribution was cut

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Technician Adaptability DiB Mega Lucario was a thing that existed, iirc

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And it really didn't deserve to

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I could be misremembering

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But like remove Technician and that's still fucking

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Adaptability DiB off of 145 Attack and 112 Speed

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Pokerogue has had a history of egregious Pokemon

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It still has some but not quite to the same extent

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Electro Shot Pogre 💀

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Denergy Ice Beam Rising Voltage Miraidon 💀 💀 (Forget AG, this shit's AGBL)

primal ore
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idk how could have been more prepared this is the furtherst ive been

sweet crypt
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Egg moves help a lot

primal ore
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i just new gamed

sweet crypt
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As does searching up what possible Pokemon you'd have to fight

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In Pokemon in general, knowledge is power

primal ore
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i mean who do you think i should start out w

sweet crypt
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What Pokemon do you have?

primal ore
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the thing is tho i shouldnt have to research a roguelike pokemon game

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this isnt run n bun lmao

sweet crypt
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In general, playing more runs should help you build up more general knowledge

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The game (probably) doesn't expect you to beat it first try without getting new egg moves etc

primal ore
sweet crypt
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I mean, ofc, it is possible to beat the game without egg moves or whatever

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I believe my first clear didn't abuse egg moves

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Though tbf my game knowledge is pretty above average I'd say

desert coral
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it's probably changed since I played a few months ago but starting with a pokemon that has the ability pickup was nice

sweet crypt
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Nacli is a very good Pokemon for Pokerogue runs

sweet crypt
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And it is quite expensive

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So you may want to find that one in the wild instead

primal ore
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thats if i get a map

sweet crypt
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If your Sneasel has Triple Axel as an egg move, I'd definitely pick it

primal ore
#

it doesnt

sweet crypt
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Unfortunate

primal ore
#

the only i have that has taxel is buizel

sweet crypt
#

Rn I'm thinking Mega Ray is probably the biggest roadblock for you right now

primal ore
#

her having baxcalibur also kinda walled me

sweet crypt
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Eternatus isn't too difficult if you can get past phase 1 and have a full team with at least 1 percentage damage dealer

sweet crypt
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That said, she could get like

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Volcarona

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Or Kingambit

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Or Gholdengo

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Or something

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Ivy is almost definitely the most difficult battle

primal ore
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yeah ive watched runs w her getting kingambit its rlly not fun

sweet crypt
#

Or Finn if you picked the female player character

#

Restarting runs early on to make sure she gets a shit starter could also help

#

For example, maybe you want to facilitate a Buizel lead into a set up for whatever she swaps in

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So you reset until Ivy gets something like Charizard

primal ore
#

so dirge, buizel

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who else ive still got 6 points

sweet crypt
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(Charizard was the one I brought up because Typhlosion has Drought and Delphox has Expanding Force Psychic Terrain)

primal ore
#

oh

sweet crypt
#

(Infernape and Blaziken should also be safe for the strategy I mentioned, but Emboar and Skeledirge may be a bit too tanky)

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Anyways

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You probably should get something with Salt Cure, Leech Seed or Curse

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If you don't want to worry about searching them out

primal ore
#

i mean i could run venusaur

sweet crypt
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You have stuff like Nacli, Bulbasaur or Duskull

desert coral
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i had a good time with venusaur

sweet crypt
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Duskull is probably least desirable out of the 3

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Since apart from cursing Eternatus, it doesn't do much

primal ore
#

honestly i could run bulb nacli

sweet crypt
#

Garganacl and Venusaur are very good

primal ore
#

nvm no i cant

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no space

sweet crypt
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Venusaur is just solid all around and probably the best single check to Eternatus if Mega evolved

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Garganacl is great everywhere

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Salt Cure, Stealth Rocks, Recover are great moves

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Though, Garg's defensive type is kinda balls

primal ore
#

so who do u reckon i run w

sweet crypt
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Idk

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Venusaur leaves you with 3, Nacli leaves you with 2

desert coral
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bulbasaur and something with pickup 😄

sweet crypt
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On one hand, Venusaur could be a bit dicey on Eternatus if you don't get the Mega

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But on the other, Garganacl is a bit expensive for how common it is

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Probably Venusaur tbh

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Last 3 points can be a Pickup mon, or maybe a Dragon Dancer?

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Idk

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I like Dragon Dance a lot

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But I think most would probably prefer Pickup

desert coral
#

if you ever get something with torch song, that's also good fun

sweet crypt
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So that's fun

#

Volcarona lost Torch Song sadly

primal ore
#

volcarona had torch song?

#

holy shit

sweet crypt
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It's still cracked as shit but not as cracked as shit

desert coral
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making me want to pick the game back up

primal ore
#

idk ive got a almost perfect meowth

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iv wise

desert coral
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I liked doing mono type runs

sweet crypt
#

I've only done Mono Bug so far

primal ore
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i hate type overlapping