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it learns more water moves
But poison type is based
I will die on my hill that if crustle is a bug thought so should kingler
eevee shold be stellar type 
no?
It probably would be, but they seem to not want to change any legendary Pokémon’s type after it’s introduction
Why not. They're both crabs
looks more like a bug
Bros never seen a hermit crab
crustle is a hermit crab. if anything it should be water
Speaking of legendaries, Darkrai should be part Psychic since Nightmares happen in the brain
Hermit crabs are land crabs
exactly
do they not live on beaches or am i stupid
They go to the beach to get/exchange shells
ahhh ok. i see yor point
They mainly live on the inner parts of the islands
Also crustle evo that's a coconut crab
dwebble
What?
thats the preevo of crustle
No a new kingambit type evo
huh?
?
Coconut crabs are the big grabs that grew out of their shells
A new evolution for Crustle
but there aint one
THEY SHOULD MAKE ONE
who cares about crustle
Me
crustle is cool cmon
i forgot crustle was a pokemon until now
Ive done a bug type play through of black 2 and had fun with crustle
alreday have a coconut crab tho
also don think a crab ever got a third form in pokemon
im not counting gigatamax
We need one
not saying no, but crustle is already big enough
if then the blue srhimp needs a third one
it only having a bigger hand is borin
That or an Alaskan spider crab
i could see that one
What if it had 2 of the pistol shrimp claws?
why do you know so much about crabs
why not
also mixed up which mon wass the coconut crab, thought it was Crabomible but that was the Yeti Crab, Crabrawler is the Coconut Crab
Is there an actual lobster pokémon?
yea
What?
whats this one?
Pistol shrimp
so fast too
.
Team water, then give it Poison Heal
a pokemon very rarely is based on 1 thing
infact it knowing dragon dance is based on lobster in chinese being dragon shrimp
and lobster yes
If Darkrai becomes a Psychic type, I nominate Cresselia to get a secondary type too to be fair. And I nominate the Fairy Type, since Cresselia is linked to the moon and both Moonblast and Moonlight (the 2 non signature moves linked to the moon) are Fairy moves
Anyways the personal change I'd make is Lunala's Psychic type to Fairy, fuck the prevo types, fuck the trio types, fuck the reasoning, I think Fairy is extremely valid too and Psychic is such a bad type, and even worse with Ghost
Though if I were being more realistic I'd probably pick Goodra into Dragon/Water lmao
But this is personal
right
So screw that
I perfer poison
Goodra can be either Dragon/Water or Dragon/Poison
I think both are equally valid
But I also want to give Goodra Poison Heal >:)
why would it be poison if they learn more water moves
Also, Kalos already has a GOATed Dragon/Poison type
Tbf, Lunala's best damaging Psychic move by level up before Gen 9 was Confusion
So like
Fellow dragalge enjoyer spotted
Gamefreak wouldn't give a fuck
still why would it be poison
But I do, Lunala should be Fairy type instead of Psychic
I know there's a theme here but god damn it Ghost/Psychic is such a painful type
Psychic does jack shit for this combo
Turn Donphan into a Normal type frfr on god
Even rock type would make more sense
"DONPHAN’s favorite attack is curling its body into a ball, then charging at its foe while rolling at high speed. Once it starts rolling, this POKéMON can’t stop very easily."
it shouldnt be
Donphan becoming a Rock type would be so disastrous for its viability
And Ground makes enough sense to me
So I'd definitely keep it as a Ground type
Slow Rock type doesn't end well
Rock defensively is like Ice
Except instead of having 1 good resist
Garganigal
It has a few redundant ones
Bad example
Garganacl always wants to be not a Rock type
And does so with Tera
Hey still has a good resist though
Who's wasting their Tera on garganacl?
It has like Fire
Garganacl is a menace when it actually has Tera
If it doesn't, it struggles
No. Just salt cure and recover your way to victory
Similar to a Pokemon like Serperior except at least it could somewhat do its job even with a shit defensive type
Garganacl wants Tera
Serperior NEEDS it
Again no
Why would you want to keep Rock as a defensive type then?
It's basically just Fire resist and then a shitload of bad weaknesses
I was talking about serperior
Idk, you don't see Serperior on OU ladder for a good reason
It simply struggles to sweep if it can't get more coverage
Because it so often only runs grass stab attacks it's better staying grass
It runs Tera types like Rock or Fire as coverage
But then without them it struggles to break past Pokemon too much
No. It sub seeds down its resists until they're in range of a leaf storm
I guess you could try to do that
But it simply won't be optimal compared to other sweepers
I've done it before. Better then pure offense
And clearly, neither are quite OU standard
Ou standard is whack though
It's not like this is something like Weavile or Deo-S, where ladder thinks it's not up to par but it is
Serperior is ranked at B in the OU VR
Deo-S?
The only OU Pokemon that are this low or lower are like, Araquanid and Blissey
Yeah fucking Deo-S is UU lmfao this gen is bizarre
It's still good in OU though
This gen is so fucking wack
But it is what it is
Who is Deo-S?
Deoxys Speed
So good mons
Yeah that makes sense
Blissey is good on Stall and nowhere else
So the best team
Stall definitely has taken a hit compared to previous generations
It's the best team
Blissey's ranked at B-
Best. Team
Oh right VR also ranks Meows at B tier
Qwilfish use explosion on this guys mom
Generally I feel like OU Pokemon are in B+ or above with these few exceptions
Nuh uh pivots Dragapult into Explosion
See, that saves your opponent too
You want them to die for literally 0 reason that shit is funny
But yeah, to be fair to Serperior
It being not up to par to Gen 9 OU standards isn't too bad
Since yknow
It's Gen 9
Gen 9 OU is crazy
Being UU is definitely respectable, though considering it has to deal with shit like Lokix there, things could be a lot better
I have 2 qwilfish
I U-Turn out of your 2nd one into uhhh
I actually have 6 qwilfish
Great Tusk, yeah
Toxic stall
Who actually uses hydro pump?
252+ SpA Squirtle Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Great Tusk: 362-428 (97.5 - 115.3%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
People who need that extra damage for the damage rolls
Sometimes, risking a miss to get a 2HKO is a lot better than not risking a miss but having to deal with a 3HKO
When I use it, it's more like 25 percent
And then sometimes you miss and die lmfao
But that doesn't matter simply land the Hydro Pump fr
Id rather just surf
The only moves where it genuinely feels like the accuracy lies to me are the ones with 90% accuracy or more but under 100% accuracy
I swear Play Rough, Aqua Tail, Heat Wave etc like
NEVER land when I'm using them
Fucking fraudulent ass moves
And these moves also don't even have that much power
At least 70% accurate moves like Focus Blast pack a lot of punch
These ones have average damage and imperfect accuracy
What makes Play Rough the worst out of these is that there's 0 good alternative
Spirit Break? On 2 Pokemon, and with a pathetic fucking BP
Magical Torque? Lmfao.
Oh by the way
Heat Wave is apparently fire breath
According to the move description
So why the fuck can so many bird Pokemon learn it?
Why?
Nothing makes sense
Tbf, we have a 2 tailed bull using Snowgrave on the unsuspecting thunderbird
So like
I dont really know why I'd expect any
time to start my genlocke on my green day 2ds
Hello I just finished questioning some game design choices and debating on if Serperior is OU standard or not
How is it that I never found any shinies in other main games, and now I have 3 full odd shinies in violet
A goat, a gremlin, and now a gear
Ok excluding legends arceus
Feels like shinies in SV are easier to find if you aren't hunting for them
At least, I never hunt for shinies, and SV is the mainline game I have the most shinies in
Well, excluding PL:A
I found the goat while looking for the shiny cetottle from the outbreak
But that doesn't count
Also just saw a braviary flying at max speed
Iron Hands outruns the player (not miraidon/koraidon though)
Yet Iron Bundle, a Pokemon with far more speed than Iron Hands could possibly dream of, is slower
What
Yknow, that gets me thinking
If Pokemon speeds were based off their base speed, how much more terrifying would SV be?
Using Iron Hands as the Pokemon to base all others on because I love chaos
NOW what would being chased by Iron Bundle look like?
It was zooming
Honestly I feel like a Braviary would be canonically faster than that even casually
Also found the shiny bronzor like 5 seconds after video ends
Lol
Tbf if we tried to make Pokemon speeds more canon
It was behind the wall on the left
It's so annoying how long some tera raid mons can stall my turn
Did they really need to do 3 things in a row
Who do you think the best npc teammates are?
I like the one with the gardevoir because life dew
None of them
Except maybe the Intimidators for physical attackers
It is funny seeing a physical mon just lose all their dmg to intimidate
I'm still split on my opinion on raid fights
On one hand it's a convenient way to get new Pokemon and can make for an interesting online experience.
On the other it's agony relying on NPC helpers and online randos are rarely smarter
Also the lag is atrocious
drifblim/arcanine for attack lower is always welcome
The one time you'd rather have NPCs help you
Over teammates
... Actually, to be fair, sometimes it feels like bots in Pokemon Unite play better than most actual players
Maybe Pokemon fans just have chronic skill issue
Would explain why there's like a singular thing I'm good at
And 2 other things I'm above average at
True, like why the hell does there still people who use the leftovers?
Spider bike spider bike does whatever a spider bike does
im not even at the first gym and ive lost all this power lol
What's this?
pokemon insurgence
well theres a fangame i havent seen in a while
The best fangame ever made
I love insurgence it has arguably the best story I’ve ever seen in a fangame
Unpopular opinion:
Pokémon mystery dungeon explorers of sky is the most underrated spinoff Pokémon game
I hope we can see how pokemon wear their held item
That's not what I meant
then what did you mean
Would you rather see a Legends Celebi in ancient Johto or a Legends Jirachi in ancient Hoenn
Sure?
Idk what that means
Imagine a Legends: Celebi game that takes place in ancient Johto
Would you want that or one with Jirachi in ancient Hoenn? @sleek jewel
Idk both sound "meh"
I actually want a pokemon game that instead of these futuristic stuff and more steampunk days
I mean we already had ancient history like legends arceus and later will have pokemon AZ
randomized nuzlocke
What's with nuzlocks
a mon faints = can't use it anymore
only catch the first thing you see on a route
those are the two base rules of it
I thought an original rule was you have to name your Pokémon
that was not a core rule but it is one that's frequently followed yea (white out = game over is in the same boat: not core but frequently used)
Just got scammed in a 5 star raid, there were like 3 seconds left of the timer and the mon ended the battle
All I had to do was attack once to win
You know what else is a scam? The fact that when you get KOed in a raid, it both cuts down on the timer AND makes it so you can't do anything for a few seconds
That is annoying
It's a somewhat annoying raid as well, it's a ninetales tera steel with flash fire, and I decided to use a fighting type
And the ninetales loves to spam will-o-wisp
And it doesn't miss
Maybe I should see if I have a guts mon
Not a single one
gotta have some punishment for fainting. at least the AI no longer incurs the penalty like it did in gen 8
The punishment for fainting should be either cutting down on the timer OR making it so you can't do anything for a few seconds. Not both
i just found a shiny chansey in legends arceus and it despawned before i could catch it😭
Should have caught it then
"Underrated opinion" proceeds to list what is probably the most popular spinoff
That is fishy's MO
I'd rather see a Pokemon Necrozma in Alola or a Pokemon Kyurem in Unova
Not true. The most popular and well liked spin-offs are Pokémon snap and Pokémon ranger
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon is an afterthought to the majority of the community
I'm being trolled rn aren't I
No
If you look at pure sales, Pokémon Snap made way more money than mystery dungeon
Selling more copies = more popular
Financially speaking
As much as I like Ranger, it is not more popular than mystery dungeon
Financially it was
Pokémon Ranger sold more copies than Explorers of Sky did
Explorers of Sky was actually one of the least successful Mystery Dungeon Games financially speaking
Partially cuz it’s just PMD Time & Darkness with a few refinements and new features. But that isn’t really the main reason why it wasn’t successful
Ask yourself this honest question, have I ever trolled before? I have not, so why would I start now?
all ive ever seen you do is troll
Anyone play Pokémon cards?
regular tcg pocket tcg
...which my brain keeps auto-typing as "tgc" because of vgc lol
gym one of leg one of the genlocke down
a grand journey begins
hope yours goes better than mine did with the delays and everything that happened in sinnoh's endgame lol
Hi @coarse estuary wanna be friends
new to competitive, is this team decent for a first real attempt at teambuilding? i feel like i have good speed control with glare and tailwind along with sufficient power throughout
more speed control also with sun + chlorophyll
is this for doubles or for singles?
singles
looks fine enough but I'm not the best to ask about comp
i really wanted to build around raging bolt and a drought mon
torkoal fits the bill for drought along with having body press so i can just invest into bulk with some offensive upside
I've seen specs glare before but it looks so strange to me lol
originally i was gonna fun scarf but with tailwind and an already pretty good speed stat i think its fine
specs makes leaf storm and d pulse an immediate threat even without contrary boosts
if im able to hard predict a switch i can very safely click glare]
Tera Water Serperior on Sun is
Something
I'd probably still go for another tera type
could probably go tera ground tbh
Especially if I'm running Tera Blast
true true
contrary boosted leaf storm isnt a huge threat on a switch in, makes it scarier when it hits the field
i think its fast enough especially with tailwind active
this is my first real attempt at making a team like this so im not too worried if there are some holes in it as long as theres some semblance of synergy
sd?
Swords Dance
If you weren't Chlorophyll in Sun you'd use Victory Dance
Usually H-Lilligant also runs Close Combat and Solar Blade
I can see not wanting to be too dependent on Sun, but why Brick Break over CC?
H-Lilligant is very frail either ways
the stat drops from cc kinda turned me off
yeah thats fair
even without cc drops its frail
And the difference between 120 and 75 is absurd
Usually people run Taxel over Ice Spinner but I can see why you wouldn't
Standard is Life Orb
gotcha
Raging Bolt set is a bit weird too tbh
I get that you're using Tailwind but Raging Bolt without Thunderclap still feels so off
thunderbolt higher base damage and also 100 accuracy
Thunderclap is priority though
true
And nothing is stopping you from running both
Sure, it can be outplayed
But this is 70 BP priority
The standard is 40
gotcha
alright i gtg to work, ill make some extra changes later
thanks for the tips dude, i really appreciate it
Serperior on Sun in general is a bit weird, as is Walking Wakeless Sun
You already have a fast offensive Grass type so I think you can replace Serperior with Walking Wake
today i learned its wrong if i find looking at a pokemon learnset for non modern gens easier to do on pokemon db vs serebii
I mostly use pokemon db for sprites but I can see using it for learnsets too
i use it to find old gen learnsets when chosing moves or picking team members but never in my life would i think i would be called wrong for prefering db over serebii for looking at old gen learnsets because they knew how to do it and i didnt
using db makes sense since looking for older movesets on bulbapedia (or serebii) can get annoying at times
yeah like i just go to the mon on db then click the moves learned tab then click the gen im playing then click the game from that gen and boom
nice nice
I'm mostly just farming the blastoise event while it's still going
shame I can't use zapdos when I'm doing auto-battle since the ai is a dum-dum and is like "peck's good enough right"
that being said you don't have the turbo-busted stuff the fight does get a lot easiler when you realize that joltik's move (50) + galvantula's move (90) is just enough to KO articuno EX (the deck has no means of healing ROFL)
the ai 100% can still delete you if it realizes that and either gets lucky with misty or invests in blastoise energy
...also I didn't realize this deck had one lone sabrina until I checked it rofl
lol the server where i was called wrong for prefering one site over another just banned be becuase i said it wouldnt be the first time id been timed out because someone else was rude to me
I hate playing decks
I always make them myself
I dont like preconstructed cuz it feels less personnal
ah yea that was about the deck the AI uses for those events yea I usually make my own as well
Which pokemon should I shiny hunt in Scarlet? I have both docs, so as long as it's available in the game then I can try it
What's y'all's favorite Johto rom?
can someone help me with my bdsp team, i trained some of them in a different game and now have level 2 movesets at level 25
its just my rotom and drifloon, they both need their stab back, and if you change rotoms form, change it back to fire so i can use it
because i need a fire time
*type
gym 2 of leg 1 down
We're already there
silly gallade
I feel like he’s gonna get lonely. I mean who will with he spend bro time with?
Harem
UNPOPULAR OPINION
Giovanni is the best villain in Pokémon
Is it just me or gen 5 and 6 needs more mega
its not just you. between gens 5-6 only 1 pokemon from those gens has a mega
Yeah like why the hell does gen 6 the game that introduced mega evolution only have 1 mega like wtf gamefreak
actually gen 6 pokemon have 0 megas
Diancie
oh yeah i always forget that mon has a mega
though tbh i always rememebr audino is the only gen 5 pokemon with a mega
Because it is
ik
and the fact all the regional forms in gen 7 are all gen 1 mons
Yes, I love them but come on why it's just gen 1 mon
Can't we just got a game that doesn't have gen 1 bias
imo the only game we have gotten so far without gen 1 bias was legends arceus
Yeah, the only gen 1 bias in pla I can think of is that your rival have a pikachu
which isn't so much gen 1 bias as "obligatory series mascot" moment
but yea gen 6 I feel is where it started, probably as an overcorrection to the reactions from BW's maingame if I'm willing to guess (fool's errand, don't assume things about this franchise lol)
but gens 7 and 8 is where it got really out of hand yea
yeah i can see how the backlash to gen 5 from the genwunners caused them to gen 1 pander in 6
with gen 9 somewhat dialing it back
And even then, Arcanine and Electrode got Hisuian forms and Syther got a new evolution
I hope they make more of pokemon that was straight up from their imagination like gardevoir line, just a princess with a magical power
Oh yeah I forgot about that
I mean hisui also gave a lot of other gens rep like lilligant, zoroark, and avalugg
(as did paldea which gives gen 2 more rep than other gens I feel)
Oh yeah, Hisui is WAY better than Alola and Galar in terms of Gen 1 pandering. However, I still think that Gen 1 needs to have at least one generation where it receives no special attention, considering that it got an entire generation to itself and also got quite a bit in both Kalos and Galar
Though at least Galar gave SOMETHING to the other generations
Except for 4, which is ridiculous considering that Gen 8 is when Gen 4 got remade
probably because of the remake is why it got nothing
Remember the mewtwo strikes back remake movie that's just the same thing but 3d
What if they make another mewtwo strikes back movie, but with a different story
Ok here's my idea for the story
So, the movie start with some Jessie mom with other team rocket grunt exploring a forest in far away island and they see a relic that has mew sculpture in it, and then they found something unusual, they found a mew fossil, but it's not only one, but it's two of them. They the go back to the lab and do a research with prof. Yuji, plant to revive both of the mew fossil and they also fuse the mew DNA with human DNA for some reason, they also plan to make a artificial mega stone for the mew to make them stronger, the project was made the same time as prof.Fuji try to clone his daughter and the starter.
i love randomizers lol
It's all seems to be going well. Until, suddenly an explosion happened in the lab and turns out, it was team plasma and Ghetsis, came to stole the mew clones, Giovanni that was also in there and other rocket grunt try to defend the lab, the battle last almost an hour and team plasma manage to steal one of the mew clone and they also steal the formula for the artificial mega stone. The lab receives huge damage, the damage resulting the failure to clone the prof.Fuji daughter and the starter, but somehow the remaining mew clone stills alive, they continued this experiment for few years, and finally, the mew clone finally finished, the clone was name Mewtwo, but Mewtwo doesn't obey them, Mewtwo was mad due to the years of pain while they experimenting him,he launched an attack on the lab almost destroying it, but before he completely destroying it an armor was suddenly equipped to him and he felt needles stabbing him and send a powerful electrical jolt inside his body, he then fell to the ground and he sees Giovanni in front of him, the armor was made to control and holding back Mewtwo power, every time he doesn't do what Giovanni wants, he will get electrocuted.
i think ive got it figured out
the flower crown surprisingly works well here
had no idea comfey of all things made it up to ou especially with how much i clown on its existence
Pokemon will always be a great series.
gym 3 of leg 1 of the genlocke donw
lmao
Do people like Ghetsis?
as a villain generally yea
As a villain he's excellent, as a human he's awful
Morally, or as a villain?
(Because morally it's a lot more complicated)
I mean, one wants to remake the universe in his own image which would make you assume it should be an easy answer
But Ghetsis is such a piece of shit, man
Anyways, predictions for new Megas in ZA?
Preferably realistic predictions and not "I want this" predictions
I think that the Gen 6 Starters are likely getting Megas here
more charizard or mewtwo ones 
If not here, then never
flygon
In general I feel like Gamefreak probably will be making more Megas for the gens they neglected, though maybe that's wishful thinking
mega charizard Z incoming
I dont think any Gen 7, 8 or 9 Pokemon will get Megas
PL:A only had Pokemon past Gen 4 if they got something new
Like a regional form, or an evolution
but more serious, maybe the xy box legends could get megas
I mean I guess if an evolution of something got a Mega, that'd technically be a Gen 9 Mega
legends arceus had dialga and palkia get new forms
That would give me nightmares
Mainly because of Xerneas
See, Yveltal is the good guy
Xerneas is the evil destroyer of worlds here in Competitive
While Yveltal is generally just a very helpful Pokemon
You think Goodra would get a Mega?
i wouldn't be surprsied if it did, but i don't think so
I mean, it is a bit weird that 4 Pseudo Legendaries have a Mega and none of them are Goodra
i think this time, flygon is finally going to get hte mega that they want to give it
So I think that it probably would get a Mega
Once again, I feel like for a lot of these Gen 6 Pokemon, it's now or never
Unless it's some Gen 6 mon nobody thinks about
Like uhhh
if the do give the gen 6 starters megas would it include greninja, since it has it's own form
Idk, Gourgeist
i would laugh it they did the kalos thing again where they give the new starters megas, but not the gen 6 ones
I've heard barely anyone talk about Gourgeist
I talk about it a fair amount, but a trade evo getting a mega would suck
I think it's possible that the regional evos would get a Mega
But I don't think it'll happen
If they do random starters from different generations, they better make it easier for me to pick which one to use
I think it's like a 35/65
because haha funny, PLA starters were the exact starters I chose for those games
chikorita starter as well just to get mega meganium
yee, that just means the starter lineup should be Chikorita, Fire starter, Water starter 
There is 0 way they don't do regional forms for the starters is what I'm thinking
maybe heliolisk
and they make it another grass/dragon type
Heliolisk would be cool actually
Mega-helioisk would go so ahrd
I think both Slowking and Frosslass are good candidates since their alternate evolutions got megas
when you give a Meganium a mega stone, it’ll mega evolve into Giganium
Maybe they could turn it into a Fire/Electric type with Drought or something
because data size, giga is the next after mega
thats what i said
I hope for a dragon type eeveelution tbh
Flygon is actually a non bias pick now that I think about it
since xy is what added sylveon the fairy type
Since yeah they did plan on giving it one
people gotta stop making eevee fakemons first so they can actually use one
Anyways, how about the megas you want the most?
Try to only pick mons from Gen 6 and earlier
Falinks
Because yknow
Hmm wait a minute
I get that this is the idealistic question but
There's no point making a wish that is quite literally impossible given what we know
honestly xy box legends mega's could be cool
but for real though, maybe purugly, watchog, or roserade
from what I’ve seen, something something legends game in kalos or whatever
Mega Volcarona and it's just Mega Zard Y with slightly better stats, a different type and Quiver Dance
(Real)
and it’ll be set in the past
mega rotom would be funny but I doubt it considering it already has forms
what if we do get a dragon eeveelution in that game
yup we're going to war, maybe, since kalos was at war in the past
and the reason why it doesn’t exist in the present games
outside of that, mega slowking and mega froslass, patch up those cross-evo incompatibilities that ORAS left behind.
the fleur cannon is the reason why dragon eevee is extinct 😮💨
is because sylveon showed up and somehow stopped them
the ribbons on sylveon are actually dragon whiskers
that got converted to fairy fluff
well, depending on when exactly it will be
Maybe the dragon eeveelutions were like too hostile or something, so then they had to make a fairy eeveelution to get rid of the out of control dragon eeveelutions, and then the evolution method has been lost to time
which then explains why there’s no dragon eeveelutions in the present
People do think it'll be at most a few hundred years ago, similarly to PL:A
Isn’t ZA supposed to be around lumiose city development or something?
That said, it'd be very funny if it was indeed during the great war
Yes
so it might not be that war
It probably won't be
unless the war was going on during the development
But it'd be very funny if there was that war, or one similar to it, during that time
The actual real life counterpart to Lumiose City being developed is a lot less than 3000 years ago but you never know
Pokemon isn't exactly the most realistic game out there
the possibility of a unova legends game would be pretty cool and make the fans happy
cough cough Tauros has Boltbeam Coverage
but we all know that they wouldn’t have legends unova involve the original dragon
Legends Unova and Alola would be so hype if they did the obvious thing though
They'd make so much money off of those
Drowning in cash
And we all know Nintendo likes money
Like for example of Legends Unova, we could be one of the twin heros
nah, they wouldn’t do that for a legends game
or maybe the time of their descendants
Scrambled Scarlet team so far, Bosses (6/18) beaten
Am I stupid or does Gos Harag look nothing like the Mankey line
assuming the bottom are their tera types?
yes
it was the first thing that came to mind when i caught mankey
Gosharag definitely helped solo some bosses since defiant mach punch
time to tackle Boss 7
The actual most evil person is pokemon is that girl in gen 4 who trades you a Haunter holding an Everstone
@sweet crypt
Not even Ghetsis would do something that bad
No, the actual most evil person in Pokémon is the one who decided that trade evolutions should be a thing in the first place
or rather, the translators who left it in for profits rather than cut it for only making sense in japan's population-dense culture
Old Pokémon games were unhinged. Literal slot machines and a dude peeping into a gym saying that he’s looking at all the pretty women
And that was just one city
Nah most evil person is the one who made ghost physical, and why it doesn't work in gen 1
Psychic’s other weakness, bug had trash Pokémon with no good bug type moves
The best bug move Beedrill had was twin needle
Ah yes shadow ball Gengar, completely useless
That’s no longer an issue though
Shadow ball isn’t a bug type move
should i play sun and moon or super mystery dungeon?
Pokémon Moon
I just remembered this is a Pokémon chat
Don’t get Super Mystery Dungeon play Rescue Team DX
it’s way better
@sick anchor
But it was a physical move on a fucking Gengar
Ain't nobody gonna use a physical Gengar
i mean i already have super mystery dungeon i just dont remember playing it
Bug is pretty worthless offensively though yeah
A not terrible defensive profile though
But not enough for it to not just be the worst type with only 1 type you could argue being as bad imo
In Gen 1 psychic type was slightly broken
Gen 1 Psychic is so broken that it makes current gen Psychic look even more terrible than it already does
It's almost funny
Almost
Psychic and Dragon type fell off
One part of the type chart was literally glitched in Gen 1 Psychic's favour
Not that your fucking Lick Gengar was doing jack shit either ways
But still
volcarona
In Gen 1 we were talking about
Volcarona does not use Bug moves often
So I don't see how Volcarona disproves my point
Quiver Dance and Bug Buzz goes brrrr
Yeah but why use Bug Buzz when you could use moves that actually hit important things for SE
ohh
X-Scissor on Scyther is great
Grass, Psychic and Dark.
All solid types
buff bug type pokemon fr
But the only times you're really worried about a defensive grass are if they're a Grass/Steel or Grass/Poison
Would you look at that
You know what type needs a buff. Ice
Both are neutral to Bug
And both are weak to Fire
Ice needs a serious buff
I think what Ice needs more than anything else
Is for Gamefreak to stop making them slow defensive Pokemon
Because Ice fucking slaps offensively
Stuff like Weavile is how an Ice type would ideally be
There’s only a few viable ice type mons.
Glalie, Abomisnow, I guess Baxcalibur
I can’t think of anyone else
Bro really just mentioned Glalie and Abomasnow
Instead of Weavile, Chien Pao, Iron Bundle, Kyurem etc
Ig Kyurem does have like a shitload of BST
So excluding that makes sense
Glalie disrespect is not tolerated
If Glalie is ever good, it's not because of its type
There’s no reason to use Frosslass when Glalie exists
It's because Moody is batshit insane
Otherwise, you're never using Glalie
Unless Mega I guess
Moody is arguably the best ability
Wonder Guard:
True but Moody is up there
But yeah, Glalie is not really a good example of a "Good ice type" imo
Since its merits do not come from the ice type
It comes from Moody
Without Moody, it simply is just a bad Pokemon
But it’s a viable ice type technically
I mean, Moody is banned in OU and ain't nobody is using Moody Glalie in Ubers
But yeah in a roundabout way
It is kinda banned from OU?
I didn’t say it’s an elite Pokémon just merely viable
Except only Moody is
And Glalie itself is complete ass
Actually ngl
Mentioning Abomasnow
Instead of like
Alolan Ninetales
Is just absolutely crazy
If you're mentioning a Snow Warning+Aurora Veil Pokemon at least mention the best one
Anyways back to Volcarona's Bug type
Volcarona's Bug type serves one purpose
And it's to change its defensive matchups
It's now quad weak to Rock but tbh Volcarona faints to any Physical Rock move either ways, and is already gonna want to use HDB
Weak to Flying which is sad
Neutral to Fire which is also sad
But it also now is neutral to Ground
And resists Fighting
Which is pretty neat
It's pretty much just a slightly different Fire type defensively but hey, Fire always has had a weirdly high number of resistances
And actually good ones too
Honestly if they were to buff the Bug type I think they should lean in on its defensive qualities
Since nothing short of a fucking overhaul would save it offensively
7 fucking resistances
"Holy shit"
All to good types, too
Glalie is underrated. Ain’t nobody using Frosslass competitively
Great design, horrible Pokémon
Nobody is using Glalie either if Moody is banned in OU
And tbf, Froslass has like
Some reps in PU or NU or ZU or something
But yeah the Snorunt line is just underwhelming in stats
80 in every stat 💀
Froslass just needed more damage output and it could've been good
But nope!
80/80 offences upon ye
Also, I'd like to argue that Dragon didn't fall off that terribly
Sure, it's not the undisputed best type in the game, and probably not even S tier
But imo it's at least an A tier type
Certainly not a terrible fall compared to Psychic being hot garbage
Dragon is still decent as a STAB type (not so much for coverage)
And it does have good defensive properties
Sure, it's weak to the best type in the game and a top 5, and I'd argue top 3 offensive type
But those sets of resistances are very good
Fire, Water and Electric are good types to resist
Grass isn't bad either if you're in Gen 9 and are facing off against Ogerpon
lavender tower rival fight took the life of my beedrill
At least you don’t have to go far to bury him
lol
What starter do I choose?
litten is the best in base sun moon
dynamax adventure difficulty tierlist!! anything with AoE, kyurem, everything else
my rng has been so ass lately, kyogre pulling surf and then origin pulse. idk how i did the first 6 or so without issues
dynamax adventure?
first gym with a death. lost nidoking due to a missclick
missclick?
i do
ive just never missclicked in a pokemon game
then i dont understand how you are saying missclick as a question. can you not fathom someone might click the wrong move or something
lowkey forgot about that
damn pokemon sword and shield released 6 years ago
How does that make me feel old
Boy tuli
Girl liekki
I dont know why i suggested finnish fire names 😂
Hell yeah
welcome to the club
i hate this dude but i dont know why
Why do you hate Hau?
Alolan Hop and Galarian Hau
also I was gonna say "misbutton" for the error but now that I think about it you can 100% misclick during gens 4-7 lol
That’s not right
(misbustton is gens 1-3 and 8-9)
unless 8-9 have touch inputs on battle menus I missed
Hop is galarian and hau is from alola
yea the bit is that they're basically the same character on the surface
(hop does have some stuff about living up to the expectations that leon's set though)
But most rivals piss me off because they always want to battle
I don't dislike either but also not liking them either? it's a neutral feel
The only rival I liked was Marnie for obvious reasons
I do give hau doints at least for actually using a leafeon in his eeveelution trio rather than gen 6 rival putting a jolteon there
i think the bw1 rivals and hugh were the best rivals
I would say for me it's probably gen 3 rival for flowing the best gameplay wise but they kinda just... stop after the route 119 fight lol
since what feels like would be their last fight's taken up by wally instead (who's ORAS incarnation doesn't get points for popping a mega evolution on you before the champion fight even if it's hard-walled by sableye/spiritomb)

cause shes not a rival?
whats the obvious reason
unless its a not for this server reason lul

kinda like a gameplay-wise vs. story/lore wise thing
She’s it the same type of rival like hop and bede but is one of the rivals just less aggressive in always wanting to battle so less known
kinda like how geeta and alder are both champions but not a final bosses while ghetsis is the reverse
Geeta is a trash champion
comparing her to hop and bede is wild
like in what way
that they all have pokemon
calling marnie a rival is like saying silver from gen 2 is an evil team admin like is so not true its funny
actually mustard too now that I think about it (ok former, thanks bulb rofl)
Shit you got a point there
imma be honest i dont even understand this sentence
what are ya saying
basically "champion" is usually the same as final boss of a given game but not always the case
like i get what ya mean..i just dont get what point your making
actually let me rewind myself a bit ROFL I did kinda lose track of the point
I think what I was getting at in terms of someone being a rival gameplay wise but not story-wise
i dont remember a game where the champion was the final boss tbh...i guess kinda but i always consider the story villain to be the final boss
which is a bit more... liquid of a term?
for me i'd be... kanto (blue), johto (lance), hoenn (steven/wallace), sinnoh (cynthia), B2/W2 unova (Iris), kalos (diantha), and galar (leon)
the exceptions are BW unova (ghetsis), Alola (no official champion as of the fight), and paldea (long story rofl)
To be fair Marnie actually never was a rival I mean she doesn’t go out of her way to make your life a living hell.Hop is your very annoying childhood friend that’s always in his feels like drizzile
yea she only fights you... twice I think?
that was my point yes
I love how my instinct was to look up if eusine fights you more than once rofl (he does not)
also according to bulb marnie does count but uuuh
rival doesnt have to be a rude shit (infact the worst type of rival) just someone who competes with you, Marnie doesnt
this same list also includes arven who fights you even less rofl
Arven is your Rival tho
Bede is a questionable snobby SOAB for no reason only to whine like a little baby when you beat the crap out of him
its not gameplay its what they consider themselves
Yeah
who fights you more: Gen 1 rival or N
Bede doesnt whine, he always says you cheat and he would have won
i guess thats whining
but in an annoying way
thats not satisfying
all whining is annoying
blue, N only fights you 5 times rofl
Yeah I mean bede just doesn’t have skill like it’s not my fault you’re trash bro just get good
N also isnt a Rival
then again BW is also juggling two other rivals that both fight you frequently
this list has em but let's just call him "reoccuring fight" then?
hes not really competing with you for anything
which is kinda what ya need for the term
id consider n the evil team admin of gen 5
I mean I define it as "someone who fights you frequently throughout the game"
which I'd at least give a pass to "evil team admin" on N
thats not a rival?
as I said it is for me
I mean it is, but in the context of pokemon I can give it whatever meaning I want as long as I accept that nobody else'll care
either way, loose definition crap like this is why I don't like interacting with pokemon fans (at least in recent years) so I'm probably just gonna stop
its not a loose definition tho
then interact with the pokemon fan base
I just don’t like interacting with idiots which is so tough because they’re everywhere…
Aren’t they worse though??
i see the joke flew over your head
🤷🏾♂️ just wasn’t funny was all
The deeper into the Pokémon community you go the worse they get
looks like someone has a bad taste in comedy
Honestly if there’s a game I play I don’t even interact with others because I know I’m just going to ruin my day
yeah im an extremely funny man
I mean I guess so sure
also sorry if it seems rude or what not just the vibe im gettinf from the dont even interact comment is that you get mad at people if their opinion on part of a game is different from yours
It’s a little different I’ll accept others opinions however I don’t like people who are either rude or up in your face about it some people just aren’t good at communicating without aggression
yeah thats fair. i have a hard time usually expressing my like for gen 5 being my favorite because 7/10 times i get attacked for it
Half the gens I never even played I was born late
you should there are some gens out there that people dont ever try because the popular opinion is they are bad
ah yes you couldnt get into the real pokemon games but you could get into the fan games? imo thats just as bad as someone playing a fan game as their first exposure to a franchise
I don’t really play IF either 
I just like the community and occasionally making sprites
I played omega ruby and that was as much exposure as I got with that region
ah so your one of em i dont like the games but the fan community is cool so ill stay which is based
I really only get to play the remakes 🤷🏾♂️
thats why emulators exist
You’re never going to believe this but I’m too stupid to even get them to work
70% of spriters
||that makes frogs message on the you dont even play the games thing even more true but i wont get into that again lol||
So which animal based Pokémon are we missing??
Apparently these 🤷🏾♂️
Except we do have a dolphin Pokemon
dolphin as if finassin and paloophin dont exist
It hasn’t been updated yet
Or recently
As for the Japanese spider crab is that not G-Max kingler?
look at his face
i havent progressed much in the game but i just hate the way he looks and his personality
he doesnt even know me and wants to battle me
silver doesnt know you and fights you as soon as he sees you lol
oh that red haired dude
Yeah and if you try to stop his thieving ass he throws you on the ground away from him
And continues looking in the window like a freak
like he sees you pick yours then purposely steals the one strong to yours so if you run into him he can beat you
A goblin shark Pokémon could be cool (as long as it was not a humanoid)
With Pokémon trust they’ll find a way to screw it up
wolverine pokemon
I swear chihuahuas were made from pure evil
Would you call this pure evil?
The dog ain’t snarling yet so I’ll allow it
Yes/j
(in all seriousness though, what a silly cute Doggo you got there ✨💛)
What the Hemogoblin Shark Terraria reference
Oh yeah, those things are cool
Wouldn’t trust Nintendo with design designing a bipedal goblin shark Pokémon though
terraria mentioned
https://pokepast.es/37b2eaa6c2ccbe0d singles ou team has taken a big turn
no more serp replaced with growth draining kiss comfey
I feel like the devs basically didn't want to make shinies for some of these mons since they wanted the base palette but had to because it was a built-in mechanic lol
(either that or just trolling shiny hunters, knowing GF it could be either)
Apparently some people just forget Golduck exist
I know I keep saying I remember every Pokemon so it may seem weird that I'm pointing out Golduck in particular but I mean, it's an evolution to a bit of an iconic Pokemon, so you'd expect people to remember it exists more
Tbf it's probably a minority but like
Considering it not only being a gen 1 but an evolution to an iconic gen 1 mon it just feels weird
It's like if someone forget Raichu existed on a lesser scale
At least, I think Psyduck is iconic, something something anime
But I don't watch the Pokemon anime
So idk maybe I'm just dumb
Nah he just stupid
Also I mean he's the same as raichu get overshadowed by there first
Cool :)/
Are there any fangames that play like infinite fusion
elaborate
Pretty much just games that Infinite fusion fans also like
I also play pokemon elite redux
is there like a fan game or a rom hack that can be played by 2 ppl online ?
pokemon xenoverse was good
anyone got pokemon game recommendations for me?
im playing pokerogue is there any move lopunny can learn to deal with ghost types they are my biggest weakness rn
I know if you mega evolve you can grab scrappy but that relies on two seperate rare drops (first the mega bracelet then the mega lopunnite)
ik how the game works
but would that still help against ghosts
my only move to hit ghosts
is bounce
is pokerogue fun?
so how does this work?
yea the number at the top is basically the pokemon's weight
you use arrows and x (back) and z (confirm)
you can go under 10 if you want but doing so isn't super suggested. I think the only odd one there to point out is Pichu being a 4-cost because you get extra rewards for the first time you finish a run with pikachu/raichu (this also applies to all mons that have a baby form except for riolu and toxel I believe)
W team?
basically you get a mon's medal for finishing normal mode with them. if there's a baby form you get two of them, one for the baby and one for the evolved form.
that looks like a decent start
ye
like if you finish with hitmonlee you'll get one for tyrogue and one for hitmonlee even if you didn't start with tyrogue
but doing it again with hitmontop will only get you top's medal
sadly, eevee is not an exception to that. all 8 evos share one medal unless that got changed since... august or september
thats not a "reward"
oh i got drain punch
on who?
grookey since nobody else learns it
i dident even know grookey learned it -_-
should i prioritize money or pokeballs
a few balls then money
money is very important but you need to get a full team just to make your life easier
yea pokeballs can also work to try to "delete" something that's giving your team an issue through catching it, but it might not always work
rate my team
looks good so far
looks good
lotsa pickup but that's a great ability in rogue
thats why they are there XD
what ability does persian have?
pickup...
electrode is pokerus and very good with eggmoves and loppunny is well to start very good with passive and hot af
lopunny is also a blue shiny which helps rewards
ye
do you know any good endless carries nowadays after kyo got nerfed ive struggled 😦
I forget what my endless was but I know it's something with seismic toss and a multi-hit move
since ||once you get past wave 2000 the resistance tokens stack up so much that fixed damage is basically the only way to get past it||
but I also dunno how much has changed since that was from june
any recommendations ?
is there any mon with a ability to steal item opon physical hit then so i can spam multi hit multi lense and just rob everyone?
i mean if you are physicaly with them or talking with them you could do soullock pokerogue
explain further ?
you basicly do the same but have difrent items and pokemons and when one pokemon dies the other has to relese the "same" pokemon so if you start with charmender squirtle and bulbasaur and they start with grookey chimchar and piplup you can name charmender and grookey the same and so on with the other mons when one dies the one with same name has to be relesed and same with catching and when catching you can only catch together meaning that if you are on floor 20 and want whoever is infront of you the other player has to catch the mon on floor 20 too and name them the same to then try and beat the game
whats a rogue ball?
i have a question
ok?
taking it then
in the original gen 1 games
i would
your rival beats the e4 and becomes champion
yet we dont know who the champion was prior to them
it was lance
but then who was the 4th e4 member
that i dont know
since he's only 4th cause he got demoted
ye
was it whoever is nr3 now but who got removed then?! and why is your rival not last elite member???!!!
the only theory i've heard is either giovanni was a past e4 member or lance was champ, lost to blue and kicked out a random e4 trainer
considering his pride he probably would
ye
and your rival can just do what he wants?
he lost immediately after being champ
and got allowed gym status?
to be a gym leader a requirement is a single main type
he has a diverse team
just give chuck his gym back
XD
or the dojo guys name
ye give the dojo guy a .... but we got a fighting e4 member
