And I can't even get bad players
#other-pokemon-games
warm rose
I dislike this
sweet crypt
Because Nintendo Eshop isn't available in my region
sweet crypt
I dislike this
:(
That's sad
I'm not a shiny hunter, but my favourite shiny is Lunala's
warm rose
I chose marshtomp at the time
sweet crypt
That said, I prefer base Lunala's colouration
And this is why I don't talk about shinies
Because holy shit please do not take that out of context
warm rose
what?
sweet crypt
I have a deep fear that people on the Internet will twist and turn my words into weapons to be used against me to get me erased off the platform
warm rose
That said, I prefer base Lunala's colouration
Even out of context this sounds pretty normal
People know lunala is a pokemon
Hopefully
sweet crypt
Knowing the Internet they're still gonna turn it into something it isn't
I dont trust the Internet at all
brisk hedge
People know lunala is a pokemon
And if they don’t, you’d think they’d be like “WTF is a Lunala”
warm rose
Then why r u here🤔🤔🤔🤔
brisk hedge
I dont trust the Internet at all
Congratulations, you have demonstrated that you have a brain
sweet crypt
Then why r u here🤔🤔🤔🤔
Because by Internet I mean platforms I use like 1% of the time lmao
And I use Discord a lot more than 1% of the time
I dont like having lies being spread about me though, even if they're on somewhere I don't care about too much
TLDR: Extreme trust issues
But not for Discord in my experience Discord users are actually relatively sane
Relatively
Being the keyword
sweet crypt
I am insane
Relatively? Not really
warm rose
sweet crypt
Like I said, relatively is the keyword
brisk hedge
I am insane
There’s a big difference between being insane and spreading false accusations
sweet crypt
There’s a big difference between being insane and spreading false accusations
Idk if you're spreading false accusations I would call you mad
warm rose
But not for Discord in my experience Discord users are actually relatively sane
did you not read this weavile?
sweet crypt
But I'd also call you a piece of shit first so
Fair enough
Anyways, as I was saying
I really love Lunala's shiny's concept
And it does go amazingly with Lunala
warm rose
Pokémon amirite
sweet crypt
But I just feel like base Lunala's perfect already
warm rose
bloodmoon + blood sun + bloodmoon ursaluna
sweet crypt
Apart from the type why is this Ghost/Psychic and not Ghost/Fairy akshflwhc
brisk hedge
Because Cosmog
sweet crypt
But I don't feel like getting into a rabbit hole of "BRO WHY IS PSYCHIC TYPE SO ASS IN BATTLE" again
So let's avoid that topic
I think shinies work best as an alternative
sweet crypt
And not just something you actively think of when thinking of a Pokemon
I assume most people think like that
I'd assume even shiny hunters think like that
warm rose
Think like what
sweet crypt
I think shinies work best as an alternative
This
brisk hedge
Splash and teleport
And Cosmeom adds Cosmic Power
sweet crypt
I mean they are 1/big number in the thousands
warm rose
And Cosmeom adds Cosmic Power
thats just harden but for rocks right
warm rose
4096
sweet crypt
thats just harden but for rocks right
... No? Cosmic Power is Psychic type move that boosts Defence and SpD by one stage
warm rose
I think shinies work best as an alternative
Alternative to?
sweet crypt
Alternative to?
The base Pokemon's colouration
warm rose
... No? Cosmic Power is Psychic type move that boosts Defence and SpD by one sta...
yes so harden
!!!
sweet crypt
I assume people mostly think like this but I really don't know how people think
sweet crypt
yes so harden
Harden only raises Defence
warm rose
ok
sweet crypt
Hey why is Sharpen only learnt by 5 Pokemon lines?
warm rose
sweet crypt
That could apply to so many Pokemon
warm rose
Sharpen?
brisk hedge
Hey why is Sharpen only learnt by 5 Pokemon lines?
sweet crypt
I don't understand
sweet crypt
It's 7:24 am I shouldve went to sleep like 9 hours ago lol
For me I mean
I've become nocturnal unironically
That said its about to be daytime so time to be nocturnal
warm rose
I've become tired
sweet crypt
Well 7 already is daytime
brisk hedge
It's 7:24 am I shouldve went to sleep like 9 hours ago lol
That’s funny, it’s 7:24 PM for me
sweet crypt
Seeya
sleek jewel
1 is the start was that your cat siting in the window? 2 why you have 2 of some pokemons?
sly ginkgo
Knowing the Internet they're still gonna turn it into something it isn't
im fairly certain there's nobody alive called "Lunala" so..
north crow
they might think it's someone's cat
sly ginkgo
huh
i still can't think of a way for someone to take it negatively besides get mad at you because you like a certain pokemon a specific way
north crow
why are we still talking about this pokemon??
beginning to think theres something more than just "liking" the pokemon at foot.
sly ginkgo
iunno
night sinew
my Ideal setup
unkempt egret
oh okay
well that was a lusamine refight
Hell Lilligant just barreled into my tentacruel and got OHKO'ed for it
unkempt egret
so I had a tentacruel trained up in physical attack (was adamant lol) to poison jab the clefable out before it got cosmic power going
it was somehow faster than the lilligant that came out next and one-shot that too with poison jab
warm rose
1 is the start was that your cat siting in the window? 2 why you have 2 of some ...
1 yes
2 some pokemon have gender differences (but some i have multiples of cuz they just appear to me while hunting others or walking around)
like i have 5 pichus because i was hunting for female ones to evolve to pikachu/raichu
all 5 are male
proven geyser
playing emerald rogue and have have some fairly decent rng for my run, i said fuck it and started w my shiny inkay for the shiny only quest
i haven't replaced a single team member or caught anything other than the 5 since starting
not even catch contests
so assuming things go well, i'll also get the one quest that happens to say "hey, catch only 5 pokemon in the entire run"
oh, i also had trouble finding team members bc i was trying to get the "no repeat types" quest as well
i ended up using tangrowth as one of my special attackers
but she pulls her weight so its yknow
untold hill
proven geyser
these e4 bastards and their final gambit leads i swear
untold hill
Shine
rose dagger
is schlotum a fitting name for a zubat
sleek jewel
1 yes
2 some pokemon have gender differences (but some i have multiples of cuz t...
1 whats your cat doing now? XD 2 why that reason? XD
brisk hedge
Just casually asks to see a Giratina
north crow
citra.
naive timber
lemon
low dirge
Chat, does anyone got some scarlet exclusives for the dlc
I need Gligar for Teal Mask and the scarlet exclusives for indigo disk.
unkempt egret
I can probably hop on scarlet? I need to do the torterra raid anyway
cobalt talon
damn i coulda had all the region gimmicks active and not use them huh
what game is that
naive timber
just search up
warm rose
1 whats your cat doing now? XD 2 why that reason? XD
I'm going for a shiny living form dex (battle sprite differences only, not pc differences)
unkempt egret
aight there's torterra down
sawsbuck didn't work great (maybe if I had been a bit more aggressive so I made it to tera) but thankfully the rest of the team was able to cover (most notably an orthworm using mud slap which is why I didn't faint near the end lol)
thankfully only took one attempt since the party we locked in with (sawsbuck/serp/orthworm/haunter) was good
I would say that leafeon might work in hindsight but sawsbuck also has light screen which for leafeon is a gen 1 import only (so no access to it in gen 9)
@low dirge sorry to ping but do you still want those version exclusives while I'm playing scarlet?
sleek jewel
I'm going for a shiny living form dex (battle sprite differences only, not pc di...
You didn't answer the first question XD
low dirge
<@795734189379026994> sorry to ping but do you still want those version exclusiv...
In a few, finishing poker
I'll definitely be on though
Just dm me so I can call afterwards.
unkempt egret
got it. I got the gligar and I forget what the exclusive for scarlet is in disc?
low dirge
got it. I got the gligar and I forget what the exclusive for scarlet is in disc?
Would you mind doing the trade evos
unkempt egret
I'll see?
sleek jewel
funny fish
wrong chat
simple oxide
no u
simple oxide
yes. xd.
pokemon xd gale of darkness.
an "other pokemon game"
unkempt egret
GF, who only counts their own games probably
still coyote
lemon
no dont tell them that!! pirating is illegal!! give money to the billion dollar corporation!! nooooo!
untold hill
Lmao
unkempt egret
no dont tell them that!! pirating is illegal!! give money to the billion dollar ...
"this sarcasm has been approved by the Piracy Association"
also I dunno "lemonrope" just doesn't have the same feel to it
lusty iris
We don't allow this discussion
Because we don't want to get caught in the crossfire
Take it Out of here
untold hill
Discussion ended tho 
lusty iris
Just reminding chat
untold hill
Fair
still coyote
"this sarcasm has been approved by the Piracy Association"
goat.
astral forge
maiden flare
Sleep deprived shower thought:
I'd love to see a pokemon fan game be a mash up of pokemon X Noah's arch.
Your tasked with catching at least 1 of every mon with your starter Ditto right before an apocalypse.
...
I'm basically describing a Pokemon version of Linda3 but I digress.
My restless brain be cooking fan game ideas.
sleek jewel
Guys what's the best nature for metagross?
lusty iris
Brave is also fine
Depends on what you need
If you can sacrifice speed Brave is equal to Adamant, if you want speed Jolly is the only move
proven geyser
use light metal to reduce weight damage
north crow
If you can sacrifice speed Brave is equal to Adamant, if you want speed Jolly is...
Adamant is better because you can run agility w/o sacrificing speed
unkempt egret
yea brave is more for if you plan on either going mixed or taking advantage of trick room
sweet crypt
use light metal to reduce weight damage <:heehee:945800365457149992>
Real not clickbait
lusty iris
Adamant is better because you can run agility w/o sacrificing speed
Like I said, if you can sacrifice speed
Gyro ball, tr, etc
north crow
ye
untold hill
I pick whatever and just speedrun
lusty iris
Hey chat, so did u pick helix or dome
Assuming you do quests you can give kabutops crabhammer iirc
candid spindle
Assuming you do quests you can give kabutops crabhammer iirc
I believe in helix supremacy
The tpp community has sort of brainwashed me into picking helix always lol
lusty iris
Look I’m the Kabuto spriter I’m gonna say Kabuto
candid spindle
Look I’m the Kabuto spriter I’m gonna say Kabuto
Ah ok
I wish there was an official rock eeveelution
sweet crypt
Hey chat, so did u pick helix or dome
I pick Kabutops because I prefer Kabutops (I am about to forget to revive the fossil)
Don't they get given to you at like pathetically low levels, too?
candid spindle
Don't they get given to you at like pathetically low levels, too?
True but I think they grow fast?
Don't forget that if u are playing gen 1 and if u wanna do glitches u can get them using mew glitch too
(I forgot the specifics tho)
sweet crypt
Bro they get revived in like Cinnabar
sweet crypt
At level 30, where the gym leader is level 40+
But hey, you do quad resist Fire and resist Normal and Flying
candid spindle
But hey, you do quad resist Fire and resist Normal and Flying
Yea wich is quite good to have at that point
sweet crypt
At least in LGPE they aren't underleveled as sin
candid spindle
What type was the cinnabar gym again
sweet crypt
What type was the cinnabar gym again
Fire, and the only non Fire moves used are Normal and Flying
By Blaine at least
So you resist all their moves
That said, 10+ level difference
candid spindle
Fire, and the only non Fire moves used are Normal and Flying
Yea then having a fossil pokemon is good there
Just level it up a bit
sweet crypt
Yeah but man
Why would I use them for the gym if my current Pokemon would beat the gym anyways?
That just seems like a waste of time to grind
candid spindle
True
sweet crypt
It's so fucking wack
candid spindle
Maybe use it on the elite 4 or something, but honestly u do need to make a good team for that part
sweet crypt
Honestly if it were level 35 maybe I'd use them while underleveled for only the Fire gym
candid spindle
BTW did u know originally the elite 4 was going to have like gym styled puzzles too
sweet crypt
But even then, I feel like by then I'd have a good enough team to not care
candid spindle
At least in the beta
sweet crypt
I think that's the biggest problem with putting them late
sweet crypt
By the time you reach Cinnabar you probably already have a team that you either think is great or have grown attached to
candid spindle
Gen 1 had so many scrapped concepts that some did make to later games but not all
candid spindle
By the time you reach Cinnabar you probably already have a team that you either ...
True tho
So uhh maybe the fossil pokemon is just to well, fill up the dex completion
sweet crypt
That's why they should put fossil reviving areas earlier, I think Gen 4 did it and so did Gen 3 but idk when you get the fossils for those gens
candid spindle
Yea its a big issue
BTW speaking of gen 3, I loved the early goofy days of gen 3 ROM hacks
Literally wild
Like those "HOW 2 CATCH GROUDON EZ EMERALD" ahh videos
Those were so goofy
sweet crypt
That's why they should put fossil reviving areas earlier, I think Gen 4 did it a...
Honestly this is an issue with most late game mons
But most of them are either fully evolved versions of earlier Pokemon
Or Pokemon that are just fucking insane
Like think Metagross in B2W2
Paradox Pokemon in SV
candid spindle
In my gen 3 ROM hack the fossil revival area is after the second gym
sweet crypt
Compare these to the fossils and it's night and fucking day
candid spindle
And u get the fossils like after first gym
sweet crypt
Like idk about you but if I was just running around in the grass and encountered a WILD MOTHERFUCKING METAGROSS someone on my team is getting replaced
candid spindle
My gen 3 ROM hack has tons of gen 9 fakemon I made
brisk hedge
That's why they should put fossil reviving areas earlier, I think Gen 4 did it a...
You get the Gen 3 fossils after gym 4 and the Gen 4 fossils after the first gym (though it’s usually better to wait until after the second gym to revive them)
candid spindle
Like the grass starter is called yannyrel, gosh one of my fav fakemon lol
sweet crypt
You get the Gen 3 fossils after gym 4 and the Gen 4 fossils after the first gym ...
For Gen 3 it's a bit late but not too late
Though fossils are generally on the weaker end of Pokemon
And Gen 3's fossils are on the weaker end of fossils
So they could've afforded to out those earlier
candid spindle
My hack also has lots of new moves too and 2 new types
brisk hedge
For Gen 3 it's a bit late but not too late
Keep in mind that they’re in a completely optional area
sweet crypt
Gen 4 fossils I agree with the placement
candid spindle
Light and Cosmic
sweet crypt
Keep in mind that they’re in a completely optional area
Simply do the optional area
brisk hedge
Simply do the optional area
sweet crypt
I'm the type of player to want to do everything possible before progressing
I almost got diamond rank in PMD DX before beating the game and I don't think I was supposed to
I dont even know if I was supposed to be gold rank because god damn why do these characters keep bragging about gold rank even in endgame
brisk hedge
It’s funny too, cause it’s not even close to the highest rank
sweet crypt
It’s funny too, cause it’s not even close to the highest rank
I dont even know if diamond is close to the highest rank because I feel like it isn't
And that's 2 stages over Gold already
brisk hedge
I don’t know what the highest rank is, all I know is that there are a lot of them
sweet crypt
They got fucking folded by Groudon lmao L bozos
I just recruited like 50 people I found on the street for fodder and spammed the shit out of Blizzard
brisk hedge
Friendly reminder that they sent a Golem to go fight Groudon
sweet crypt
And he died
brisk hedge
“I’m gonna hit Groudon with rock throw”
sweet crypt
OK according the Serebii, Diamond is the 1st of the upper half of the ranks
That said Serebii gets a lot of things wrong on PMD DX
Which unfortunately doesn't include the fact that Mega Rayquaza is a thing that you have to fight to get Rayquaza
brisk hedge
Yep
sweet crypt
(I won anyways and as it turns out I was supposed to be around level 70. I was level 50.)
The power of a supereffective screen nuke I guess
They also claimed you'll have to fight the Primals
I am not looking forward to it
brisk hedge
You do indeed need to fight the primals
sweet crypt
The best SE STAB move kills everyone who isn't the user
Wallahi I'm finished
Actually wait I have Rayquaza
Air Lock clutch?
Is it time to spam Hydro Pump?
brisk hedge
For Groudon, you could wait until you have Kyogre and weather wars him to death
That’s what I did
sweet crypt
OK but that means I have to beat Kyogre
brisk hedge
I did that unprepared, you’ll be FINE
sweet crypt
Alright then...
Do I Air Lock its ass
Or abuse the rain to land Thunders?
Will it just hit my Rayquaza with Ice Beam?
brisk hedge
I don’t remember if it has Ice beam or not
brisk hedge
Probably not since I beat it with a Sceptile and a Marrowak
sweet crypt
I should probably beat the other birds first
Those would be a lot more reasonable for my level
At the same time I beat mf Rayquaza
I'm not exactly reasonable
And it doesn't exactly stop me either
candid spindle
I love moltres
hard plume
north crow
dang im almost tempted to pull out my actual game to hunt a ferocious shiny tinkaton
north crow
I already spent 10 hours hunting a regular shiny tinkatink and found 7 bronzors
I think im good tbh
shell oak
An acquaintance asked me for a battle, so I pulled this guy out of home alongside my team for some pictures
I hope to find kyurem soon, so that I can get the whole trio in one game
sweet crypt
It's funny how the strongest box art legendary duo in lore is the weakest in competitive
Like sure Solgaleo and Reshiram are worthless garbage and their counterparts are low tiers
(For Ubers at least, they'd all be broken in OU)
But both Palkia and Dialga are worthless in Ubers
sterile moss
unkempt egret
meanwhile the Raidons are both "basically high powered animals from the past/future" lore wise and both are in AG now from what I remember? at least Mira is
sweet crypt
meanwhile the Raidons are both "basically high powered animals from the past/fut...
Koraidon is only AG in NatDex
Miraidon is in AG for both NatDex and SV
I want to note that it was more oppressive than Mega Rayquaza
Despite the like 110 BST difference
Hadron Engine is a very fair ability trust me
Hey wait why does Koraidon get the same BST reduction as Groudon? I know the main reason is that their abilities are stronger than the other box art abilities, but Orichalcum Pulse is a straight upgrade over Drought
Like heck making their speeds 125 would unironically be a massive difference
A lot of Pokemon rest at the 130 and 135 benchmarks
By a lot I mean realistically Eternatus, Chien-Pao and Flutter Mane
But hey those are very big names
And all of these Pokemon have SE STAB for them
Mewtwo isn't very good in Ubers last I checked
Unlike Pokemon like Lunala and Zekrom though, it's actually fair in UUbers
At least, when I last checked
worn viper
whats this genre of grass pokemon called
worn viper
humanoid feminine grass type that every new gen its more blatantly appealing to that part of the fandom
sweet crypt
whats this genre of grass pokemon called
The ones where liking them is a crime because there's very clearly only 1 reason someone would like a Pokemon right?
unkempt egret
"treants but not trees" (ok arbo is probably a tree of some kind)
sweet crypt
It's not only a genre for grass types tbf
untold hill
Tbh, do they even have a genre
sweet crypt
Though, I have not seen a singular person see Arboliva in that light
sweet crypt
Tbh, do they even have a genre
If they do it's time to include 90% of all Pokemon
rotund oracle
Yinz need some jesus and more conversations with people who actually like the mon instead of comments in social media remarking the few people who have very weird accounts in certain pages.
sweet crypt
Hey tbf I like Salazzle for not weird reasons but I can't deny that there's definitely an intended weird element to it.
That said it's a lot more obvious for Salazzle than it is for Tsareena imo
brisk hedge
Say it with me kids: when a feminine Pokémon breaks rule 2, it’s because of the fans not the Pokémon
rotund oracle
"Intended".
I just like to hope the designers aren't like some people and don't see anything resembling the human form as inherently bait.
Like yeah Salazzle is obviously intended to be clearly femenine and playing into tropes of the sort but I don't think they overtly wanted it to be attractive.
sweet crypt
Yeah I don't think they designed Salazzle to intentionally bait people I think they just decided "lol why the fuck not"
I also don't want to assume that the designers are just yknow
Bizarre
worn viper
except cinderace thats literally some random deviantart users fursona
unkempt egret
when there is no winning, why not discard the notion and accept what you want?
honestly I do have an issue with salazzle but its gameplay related
which is why does gf have to be so stingy with immunity bypassing?
which like most "ignore immunity" things aren't "ignores immunities" they're "ignore this one specific immunity"
untold hill
What is gf?
unkempt egret
Game Freak, the ones who make the mainline pokemon games for the most part
untold hill
Oh
rotund oracle
I guess it's a balance thing.
untold hill
I thought girlfriend so got confused
unkempt egret
probably.
unkempt egret
I thought girlfriend so got confused
understandable lol
but yea for salazzle I wish corrosion applied to attacking moves as well and not just poison toxic
rotund oracle
Like if you have something that bypasses too many things you either need to neuter its ability to inflict the thing to bypass the defenses or it's likely gonna get abused beyond belief.
unkempt egret
since I know the classic joke is that salazzle and toxapex got their scripts swapped
sweet crypt
but yea for salazzle I wish corrosion applied to attacking _moves_ as well and n...
Realistically the only time Salazzle cares about this is like Heatran and ironically probably Toxapex too
unkempt egret
though toxa at least got brokengenerator
I mean in doubles 33% is probably fine since switches aren't super common there
sweet crypt
Ig like Water/Steels and Rock/Steels but the former, despite being a good type, doesn't really have many good users and the latter is Rock/Steel
unkempt egret
but in singles you could whack it down to 10% and it'd still be a decent ability
sweet crypt
Actually for vs Dragon/Steel would be cool
Actually also should check for any relevant Poison types
Poison/Steel... Revavroom and Salazzle are both lower tier mons, right?
unkempt egret
I think
unkempt egret
then again most things in ou are either 560+ BST, have something that benefits them for switching/punishes the opponent for doing so, "I move first and hit hard", or an absurd signature move/ability of some kind
sweet crypt
Like RU or NU
unkempt egret
at least for singles
sweet crypt
This isn't Salazzle but this would be kinda heat on Glimmora, to counterlead opposing Glimmora
sweet crypt
Brainfart mb
unkempt egret
rofl
sweet crypt
Since Glimmora would also be Rock type
Not because it has Corrosion
See, Glimmora is usually Toxic Debris
unkempt egret
I remember using its HA for raids since I was using acid spray/reflect for decidueye
and toxic debris just wastes time in a raid scenario
sweet crypt
So you run Corrosion and if I wasn't an idiot and Rock resisted Poison, you slam it with SE Sludge Wave
Man if only I wasn't an idiot
That would actually be so funny
Helps in the Salazzle mirror at least
Or does it hurt?
Eh
I actually ran Corrosion Glim in low ladder
And I want to stress that it only worked because I was low ladder
But god damn it was hilarious
Bro I got so many forfeits directly after landing Toxic on a Steel or Poison type
It's amazing
Yeah no main targets are like, Pex for UU, Heatran for UU/OU, Dragalge and Revavroom for those lower tiers like RU and NU though Flamethrower should already be good for Revavroom
brisk hedge
I beat the best Pokémon game
unkempt egret
nice, nice
I'm currently waiting on a liechi berry in Sun
since I need it for a strat on Hala
sweet crypt
Yup
warm rose
Is it cuz of pokemon horizons?
lusty iris
Is it cuz of pokemon horizons?
yes
tight granite
i dont think i gotten a single one of those special raid battles, cause raids are so bad
actually nah not true, i got Iron Leaves
which took way too much setup to train up one mon
sweet crypt
I definitely will go for this, whether I succeed is another question entirely that depends on what its moveset looks like
If this shit pulls an old gen event bs and uses V Create well then I'm finished
Because there's no way that'd be possible for any solo player
warm rose
Its 5 star
Werent the other ones all 7 star?
unkempt egret
the legendary palkia/dialga last year were also 5*
warm rose
Ah
unkempt egret
the only tier 7 mythical/legendary has been mewtwo
I think the the other tier 7's have been every gen 1-8 starter, pikachu, eevee, Iron Bundle, dondozo, and dragonite
warm rose
Hm
unkempt egret
Iron bundle was for chistmas and dozo/nite were both a vgc tie-in?
either way torterra was the final starter they had left outside of gen 9's
north crow
whats this genre of grass pokemon called
well one of those is a pure fairy type, so they shouldnt even be there. The last one is called "atrocity" bc fuck that stall.
The rest of them are just... good designs? I dont know what's suppose to be wrong here other than people being immature
sweet crypt
well one of those is a pure fairy type, so they shouldnt even be there. The last...
Still is plant woman, just that it isn't literal this time
Florges is only obsessed with flowers
And has flower magic
But that's still related to plants
sweet crypt
its a living flower
Clearly not if it's a pure Fairy type
north crow
🙄 k whatever
sweet crypt
It just wears a flower as clothing or something
And has flower magic
And is overall just obsessed with flowers
It's like the crazy cat person trope but with flowers instead of cats
north crow
because they live for hundreds of years taking care of flowers
unkempt egret
well one of those is a pure fairy type, so they shouldnt even be there. The last...
stall?
north crow
that's what arboliva does
north crow
its not
it was pretty ok when gen 9 came out
but I mostly play randbats 99.9% of the time
its basically just tropius 2.0
unkempt egret
aaaaah I can see that
sweet crypt
Alongside other shitmons like Salazzle and Tropius
They aren't the only shitmons who get a massive glowup
north crow
bc if you dont have a counter for something like it then you basically lose
unkempt egret
wasn't scoviian also awful before they removed moody on it?
sweet crypt
For example stuff like Volbeat, Illumise and Chimecho can be genuinely really good in RandBats
But they're the only ones that piss me off
north crow
god
i fucking hate prankster paralyse mons
or mons that are just absurdly fast and spam encore
sweet crypt
Bro I got my ass wiped to a terrible MU against Chimecho once in a friendly small tournament
I won the other 2 MUs because of insanely good MUs tbf
sweet crypt
Bro I got a team where by best answer to Weavile was to Tera my Gliscor
north crow
Miraidon/Iron Valiant in a single team
sweet crypt
And it turns out Gliscor was my only physical attacker against their Hoopa-U
north crow
felt.
sweet crypt
And the only thing that even remotely threatened Regigigas
north crow
yep
sweet crypt
So I'm now fighting a fully started Regigigas near full HP
And a Hoopa-U without a way to abuse its biggest weakness
And I'm like "Bro I'm cooked"
sweet crypt
I would say that's Regigigas but honestly? Nah
north crow
but because its lvl 98 versus your team of averaging lvl 70-80s
sweet crypt
Regigigas can be so scary in RandBats
sweet crypt
It's a lot easier to keep a Regigigas alive when everything is a lot weaker
sweet crypt
But it isn't awfully low when you realise how much you click moves
north crow
play rough is a fucking fraud of a move
sweet crypt
And it's not like you're playing a high level tournament
north crow
i like not losing to bullshit tyvm
sweet crypt
But then you get to shit like one in a few millions and you're like
"Bro I hate my life"
north crow
dont care if it's a high level tournament or the most casual baby fight ever
sweet crypt
play rough is a fucking fraud of a move
Play Rough is a fraud move yeah
It's 90% accuracy btw
sweet crypt
The only reason it is used is because there is 0 other option
Is there even a good obtainable physical fairy move
north crow
uhh
sweet crypt
Spirit Break is far too weak it's like a toddler punch
Fitting since the Elemental Punches have the same BP
north crow
well tbf it also has a secondary effect
play rough has no need of the 10% chance to lower attack by 1
sweet crypt
Lowering your opponent's SpA isn't gonna save something with fucking 74/60 special bulk
north crow
iv literally never had it happen
but besides play rough
i dont think there's literally any (widely available) good physical fairy moves
north crow
doesnt count
sweet crypt
Which is unobtainable
digital root
The best physical Fairy move is Max starfall 
sweet crypt
The best physical Fairy move is Max starfall <:Quagless:1277334887178702959>
Twinkle Tackle is funnier
sweet crypt
2 physical fairy moves and they are both mid
north crow
and the other is 90% accurate and your literal only option
sweet crypt
At least Electric moves had their 2 mid offensive moves(Wild Charge, Supercell Slam), a great move that tbf is more of a status move (Nuzzle) and a few signatures
We can't even distribute any signatures for Fairy
Unless it's fucking
Magical Torque
Which is only found on an unobtainable form of a Pokemon that uses hard coded stats
Like fucking Shedinja except it's more than just HP
sweet crypt
Moonblast exists
north crow
and a 30% chance to confuse
sweet crypt
So I wouldn't count on that
north crow
Moonblast is 95 power
but ig
id really rather not distribute a move that has a 30% confusion chance
sweet crypt
95 BP, 30% chance to lower SpA and they still have the audacity to make it higher PP than most moves with lower BP
Or equal
It feels like they were balancing based off Pre Nerf Flamethrower
But then forgot they nerfed Flamethrower in the same generation as Moonblast's edition
In fact that's probably exactly what happened
I want to point out this has a decent amount higher BP than Shadow Ball, which has a 20% chance secondary effect, and Power Gem, which has 0 secondary effect
Energy Ball has a 10% effect chance but lower BP and PP
The effect is actually a stat drop
It's not even a status condition like the other moves like Flamethrower and Ice Beam and Tbolt
In fact, it was buffed since it used to be a Shadow Ball clone
So why wasn't Shadow Ball buffed?
north crow
sweet crypt
Ig because this was the same gen where Steel stopped resisting it and Dark
And Dark Pulse and Crunch didn't get buffed either
So hey at least there's some logic behind these choices
The only way Moonblast could've been worse is if it inflicted Sleep or something because "Oh moon means night"
Or confusion tbf but Sleep is worse so I'm bringing it up instead
sweet crypt
there any move that can inflict sleep as damaging move?
Relic Song
sweet crypt
Even if there wasn't, they could easily add one
sweet crypt
Gamefreak does seem very cautious about Sleep though
north crow
90 BP, High Crit Ratio, 50% Defense Drop, 30% Flinch Chance
sweet crypt
at least theres no move cracked more than triple arrow is
Idk, a lot of status moves are definitely more cracked
I feel like Dire Claw might be more cracked too
But that's a bit close
And tbf
Sneasler is like 500× better than H-Decidueye
north crow
i forgot that move existed
sweet crypt
So it's hard to compare
north crow
and it also can put mons asleep
80 BP, 16.67% chance to sleep, poison, or para an oponent
sweet crypt
V Create is pretty insane
sweet crypt
Ik it has a drawback and all
lusty iris
Hisui is so funny like
north crow
its stats are so insanely broken
130 atk 120 speed
where is the speed on hisui decid :(
north crow
yep
sweet crypt
1.5× damage boost is crazy
sweet crypt
And that's part of why I think V-Create is probably the most cracked move
Attacking move I mean
north crow
good thing it's locked to one mon
lusty iris
Here are our new moves, set up rocks + attack, the most bullshit move ever, and hex + burn chance
sweet crypt
Here are our new moves, set up rocks + attack, the most bullshit move ever, and ...
It's a good thing most of these aren't on good mons
north crow
so now it's just 100% attack decrease
sweet crypt
At the same time idk if H-Samurott would be as defining as it is if it wasn't for Ceaseless Edge
I highly doubt it
sweet crypt
It's literally an OU staple I don't think an OK spread and Sharpness are getting it to OU
Much less the top of OU
north crow
it got base gallade to NUBL
sweet crypt
But maybe I'm underestimating how much type difference makes between it and another Sharpness mon with mid stats, Gallade
lusty iris
imo it’s that there are very defined rocks setter counters and samurott has less
sweet crypt
H-Samurott's stat spread isn't extremely different to Samurott's
north crow
Correct, but having sharpness on top of ceaseless edge helps
sweet crypt
And Samurott is so bad that you could consider it the worst starter
sweet crypt
Correct, but having sharpness on top of ceaseless edge helps
Exactly, so without ceaseless edge, it suffers
north crow
debatable
north crow
well yeah
sweet crypt
CC clones are pretty crazy
north crow
but it's still good
sweet crypt
If only because they have high BP and no accuracy penalty
Ig that could be applied to moves like Flare Blitz too
I'd rather get a Defence drop than recoil though personally
north crow
recoil means jack if it kills the mon before it kills you tho tbf
sweet crypt
Glaive Rush may as well be a CC clone
sweet crypt
recoil means jack if it kills the mon before it kills you tho tbf
What if you kill yourself
north crow
then you trade
sweet crypt
Wait shit that can be taken horribly lmao
sweet crypt
then you trade
Thing is, with the CC clones, you can just sweep teams if they don't have a faster mon
With Flare Blitz clones, you might die before getting there
north crow
well yeah
sweet crypt
It's not that massive tbf
north crow
but then you pop to any priority
which happens either way tbf but flare blitz mons tend to be a bit bulky
sweet crypt
but then you pop to any priority
Can't you say the same after the chip from recoil?
sweet crypt
which happens either way tbf but flare blitz mons tend to be a bit bulky
Darmanitan 💀
Hey, on the bright side
north crow
base 105 HP
sweet crypt
Darmanitan's one defensive stat that isn't complete dogshit is HP
sweet crypt
Yeah it won't be dying to recoil very quickly at least
north crow
if it isnt resisted
sweet crypt
Darmanitan's ass does not care if you resist its Fire moves as long as it is sunny
You are getting fucking packed
sweet crypt
I think Garm hits less hard on the STAB because of the BP difference
Flare Blitz is almost 1.5× stronger than Icicle Crash
north crow
the built in choice band helps alleviate it
sweet crypt
the built in choice band helps alleviate it
Darm will have Sheer Force
north crow
eh ig
sweet crypt
So overall I think Flare Blitz hits harder
Just in case it doesn't
Set up Sun
Now it does :)
sweet crypt
Also idk why I didn't mention this earlier since we already talked about signature moves
But the Calyrex moves
120 BP
north crow
ew.
sweet crypt
100% accuracy
north crow
I dont wanna talk about calyrex.
sweet crypt
Spread moves
north crow
stupid fucking pokemon
sweet crypt
Gee I wonder why it's so strong
north crow
genuinely so dumb
sweet crypt
I can hardly guess
sweet crypt
Aura Wheel is genuinely fucking nuts
I mean being forced to run Protect to be reliable is sad
But this is a 110 BP move that always raises speed
The only issue with it is that it literally fails if Morpeko doesn't use it and if it didn't
sweet crypt
That'd just be broken on any mon that isn't Morpeko
north crow
why is it 110 bp LMAO
sweet crypt
why is it 110 bp LMAO
Because Morpeko is ass
And needs help
I'm gonna stick to physical moves actually
Since we were talking about Triple Arrows
north crow
it is phys
sweet crypt
So pretend I said Glacial Lance instead of Calyrex Moves
EQ is probably the best widespread move in Singles in terms of raw damage
At least, if you're a wimp
And don't want to use CC clones or Flare Blitz clones
(Real)
sweet crypt
Tbf Earthquake is definitely better than Headlong on stuff like Great Tusk
Who really likes being bulky
north crow
Generally, Pokemon do not like being burnt
that's ignored
sweet crypt
I don't like chip damage
sweet crypt
Chip damage is part of why Ursaluna is not as good in practice as it is on paper
sweet crypt
Sure it doesn't sound like a lot, but take a look at Ursaluna's tier
Not quite OU level threat as anticipated
north crow
do pokemon that are tera'd into fire still take chip from burn
sweet crypt
I mean it's still great though
Just that burn is definitely holding it back even if it is boosting it, in a manner of speaking
north crow
i mean
sweet crypt
It isn't a 100% benefit
north crow
bloodmoon exists
sweet crypt
Definitely still a benefit though
Yeah BM just does not give a shit about those silly Guts shit
And hits your Ghost type with a 140 BP STAB Normal move
Because who needs Guts for 140 BP moves right? Just invest in Basically Scrappy
north crow
its literally just scrappy
sweet crypt
Gen 1 Hyper Beam was so based
north crow
but slightly worse (debatably)
north crow
scrappy is immune to intimidate while mind's eye is immune to accuracy and ignores evasiveness so
sweet crypt
Since if you play too recklessly, your opponent leaves and you can't do shit anymore
north crow
better in bloodmoon's hand since it's a special attacker
sweet crypt
scrappy is immune to intimidate while mind's eye is immune to accuracy and ignor...
BM does not care about Intimidate
sweet crypt
For BM, it does not matter if it got Mind's Eye or Scrappy
Nobody is using accuracy lowering moves and evasion raising moves are banned iirc
north crow
man
sweet crypt
(Main reason is because accuracy lowering moves can be solved by swapping out, an easy action)
sweet crypt
(While evasion boosts are just "well you better have a phaser or good luck")
north crow
imagine if it had like
sweet crypt
(I see people ask this question a lot OK?)
north crow
a bad one
north crow
it's UU
sweet crypt
... As a support mon, but still
north crow
240 BP would be a lot cooler if the mon had a real attack stat
sleek jewel
Pov: your 10 years old
sweet crypt
Gen 4 Electivire, Ambipom and Typhlosion (just those), Gen 9 NatDex Mega Banette and Beedrill
sweet crypt
Pov: your 10 years old
MY 10 year old?
This team looks like they just
Found a random flier and speedran Ultra Space
Probably brought a Run Away mon too
I should know because I actually do that in Reforged
To get Cosmog
north crow
ngl
sweet crypt
I'd play Cobblemon more but it's not very... implemented
sweet crypt
but i get so bored so fast
I dont find MC fun in Singleplayer which is why I host multiplayer servers for friends
... Which then don't join
sweet crypt
its very implemented wym
A lot of things are missing
sweet crypt
Held items for a start
sleek jewel
MY 10 year old?
Yeah remember when you start as a pokemon player and you want to have a whole pseudo legendaries team?
north crow
Held items for a start
Its in
north crow
Well yeah it's open source
sweet crypt
I've heard of move restrictions
sweet crypt
So maybe some TMs aren't in either
And maybe some tutor moves
And definitely some egg moves
north crow
havent had that issue
north crow
Most pokemon are in
sweet crypt
Since I like randomly getting fucking stacked
sweet crypt
A lot of Pokemon I like aren't
north crow
like?
sweet crypt
So I guess I got dealt a bad hand
I'm pretty sure Lunala isn't in, i remember checking once and it wasn't
That said I could've missed an update
I do think Latios is in though so that's nice
north crow
oh, yeah, i dont think lunala is in the base game
sweet crypt
But I see people saying legendaries can't spawn yet
north crow
but theres free packs that add it
sweet crypt
Data packs exist tbf
But I worry about trying to add every Pokemon
And then having a overlap
And it fucking things up
north crow
theres a few pre-made stuff in modrinth
that makes sure they dont overlap
i dont know what they all have
sweet crypt
But yeah assuming the modpacks add enough stuff in
And I can find a way to actually make it work without imploding
north crow
well
sweet crypt
I'd probably play Cobblemon more than Reforged
north crow
its really simple tbf
just look at what they add and not add what you already have
but either way
sweet crypt
just look at what they add and not add what you already have
I'd eventually just become unable to add the last few Pokemon, items, etc
sweet crypt
Which would be frustrating as heck
That said, some of these popular Reforged servers are so P2W
north crow
https://cobblemon.tools/pokedex/ i think anything that has a model here is programmed in
sweet crypt
And lack any idea of what balancing is
Like bro even Gamefreak balances better than some of these people wtf
sweet crypt
I could balance better than this while awake for 48 hours
So yeah that's why I usually play in smaller servers with myself
Better to be lonely than to be tortured by P2W and bad balancing
sleek jewel
https://cobblemon.tools/pokedex/ i think anything that has a model here is progr...
It was pixelmon
sleek jewel
Pixelmons the original
I mean there a minecraft server pokemon server that doesn't need mods
It's called pokefind.co
north crow
ik Pixelmon is the original
I was there when it was made
and I still stand by that it turned shit lol
but atp it's prob off topic since it's not an actual pokemon game
sleek jewel
but atp it's prob off topic since it's not an actual pokemon game
I mean it's a pokemon rpg game
sweet crypt
but atp it's prob off topic since it's not an actual pokemon game
It's the closest I have to a multiplayer Pokemon game
Because something something not available in your region
I love Nintendo
dull crow
unkempt egret
well that sure was an hour all right
about 250k stardust thanks to the effective x22.5 stardust rate during the spotlight hour
(combee has 7.5x, spotlight hour is 2x, and star piece is 1.5x)
sweet crypt
- Get on Reddit for some inexplicable reason
- Multiple comments calling competitive players rats for 0 good reason
rain shellBOT
Edit this to change the output of the custom command 75!
sweet crypt
Idk what I expected
sweet crypt
Edit this to change the output of the custom command 75!
Pls stop
Ngl I know Reddit gets a lot of flak for having shit people but ngl YouTube isn't much better
At least when it comes to Pokemon fans
And that's like the only community I'm in
I lost track of all the other communities of things I'm interested in a while ago
I've heard Twitter is even worse than Reddit so at least I haven't gone on there for more than like 1 hour total
Anyways to try to stop with the negativity
Uhhhhhh
Idk I don't have anything positive to say about have a random Lunala gif I'm about to look for
I'm uhhh
Moongeist Beaming all the negativity away
Fr
sharp cedar
Been looking for a reliable pokemon hack that I can use mega-evo in, any recommendations?
vernal garnet
hard plume
I've heard Twitter is even worse than Reddit so at least I haven't gone on there...
that is a true statement
especially since the guy running it thinks that detachable mirrors on a big ass truck are the best idea in the world
bitter cave
look at this beautiful monster i have created
idk why i hv magnet dragon fang and never melt ice on there
just for storage lol
brisk hedge
@rugged comet do you think this will be important later?
rugged comet
Couldn't possibly be important
The museum just had nothing to put up and decided to put up a random rock
unkempt egret
I wish I had the "foreshadowing device" screenshot from m&l paper jam
hard plume
I wish I had the "foreshadowing device" screenshot from m&l paper jam
thank you internet
unkempt egret
lol not quite what I remembered but that works, thanks
I'll probably do a M&L marathon next year since I have all 5 pre-brotherhood games available
(maybe brotherhood too? not sure)
brisk hedge
I actually did do a M&L marathon before Brothership came out, with 2 exceptions:
- I did not play Partners in Time because I do not own a copy of that game
- I didn’t finish Paper Jam because it’s the worst game in the series
unkempt egret
I will include both of those but dunno if I'll do something special for PiT
I recall I did something special when I last played 10 years ago that made it agony but I forget what
unkempt egret
see this is exactly why I stopped opening charizard packs
brisk hedge
Yet another reason why the demon lizard is the worst Pokémon of all time
unkempt egret
that's a bit more what I wanted lol
brisk hedge
just caught shiny dragonair in scarlet
Proof?
brisk hedge
no way I just started and haven't ridden a bike
Are you playing Black and White again?
rugged comet
never finished white, and idk what happend to my save in it
I might have accidentally gotten rid of it when I was organizing my games
oh well it was only at like gym 2
dry abyss
I have a bit of a question about modding a 2ds
I'm picking up a 2ds xl soon, and I want to use pokemon bank (I'm buying the physical cartridges for USUM) but since the eshop is down, will I have to mod it to get pokemon bank? and if so, will it be able to transfer to home?
rugged comet
cress is trying to do something, he keeps spamming work up
and did not attack once with his lilipup
that was easy
brisk hedge
A fellow Tepig enjoyer I see
brisk hedge
One of the other starters?
brisk hedge
I have no idea
brisk hedge
Ah
rugged comet
It's a mon that has no reason to be postgame in some games
well maybe not post game, but late game in a bunch
brisk hedge
Probably should have guessed
unkempt egret
that's odd, leafeon/glaceons don't come in eggs...
rugged comet
like I could get an eevee in black or white
unkempt egret
yea but you can't get those two evos normally since their locations are locked to postgame for... reasons.
unkempt egret
https://tenor.com/view/mawile-cute-pokemon-happy-gif-21775457
aaah a mawile I see
brisk hedge
Not in OG Black and White
unkempt egret
understandable, hope you get intimidate.
yea in B2/W2 they're blocked, you visit both in BW's maingame but you also don't get eevee in BW's maingame unless you dream world'ed it
brisk hedge
Though, you can’t natively catch Eevee in those games
brisk hedge
You could always do what I do and keep going back to the nearest heal spot
rugged comet
for a tour they really just ignore that armaldo mural
oh it's a fossil
that does not look like a fossil
look its an old bowling ball, wonder why they have it here, it surely isn't important
ornate scarab
that does not look like a fossil
definitely not how fossils look
brisk hedge
look its an old bowling ball, wonder why they have it here, it surely isn't impo...
The fact that it’s a different colour than mine proves that it’s not important
brisk hedge
Must be the biology of Mawile
rugged comet
can't reach that shelf
brisk hedge
ornate scarab
crucnh lvl 1
unkempt egret
decent mawile
rugged comet
Yeah it feels like my internet is working better around here
rugged comet
still weird how this random guy comes out of nowhere and give me flash
but why are they in line if he bought the last one
I plan on keeping it that way
gym 3 done
and thats it for today
elfin hull
Would anyone be able to help me finish my SV Dex? I’m only missing 4 Pokémon and they’re all exclusive to Scarlet(I have Violet)
unkempt egret
there we go I finally completed my pokemon mount tier list I mentioned in the fusions chat
way too many mons even when only counting fully evolved ones
in hindsight I think klawf is in "awkward but can maybe make it work" but too late
also I should note that out of any in the first three categories the winner of "favorite mental image" is probably rotom-mow
unkempt egret
Would anyone be able to help me finish my SV Dex? I’m only missing 4 Pokémon and...
what mons do you need?
elfin hull
Sandy Shocks, Slither Wing, Koriadon, and Roaring Moon
unkempt egret
I might be able to touch trade korai but I can grab the other 3 for you
elfin hull
Okay, thank you!
unkempt egret
that took a bit, I'm ready to trade if you are @elfin hull
elfin hull
Oki
elfin hull
Thank you so much!
stray heart
way too many mons even when only counting fully evolved ones
What about Cosmog?
ornate scarab
still weird how this random guy comes out of nowhere and give me flash
he flashed -
unkempt egret
What about Cosmog?
wasn't fully evolved but ||I did put lunala and solgaleo on there||
also discluded pre-evos that have been confirmed to be used as mounts like skiddo and rhyhorn