#other-pokemon-games

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proven geyser
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top is Dance party

sweet crypt
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I know Gastrodon is OU type because it constantly has a niche in OU

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But I don't think it actually ever has been in OU

proven geyser
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it could also be bc it's amazing in doubles and they didnt want a vgc type if they weren't adding incin

sweet crypt
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Couldn't they just name it Competitive instead or would that cause confusions with the ability

proven geyser
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probably

sweet crypt
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I mean tbf idk if they're trying to make it make sense

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I think they're just having a shitload of fun

proven geyser
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real and true

sweet crypt
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I think what confuses me the most is that while Gastrodon gets the OU type, Pokemon that are known to be OU staples like Blissey don't

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Latios and Latias get the OU type but have about as many generations in Ubers as OU

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Like maybe 1 more

proven geyser
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i don't think they did much thought for that

sweet crypt
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Tbf yeah it is just a silly project

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They probably don't want to learn Smogon lore just to make a silly reference

proven geyser
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it was probably "yeah that makes sense i think"
tho boltbeam being ou STAB is hilarious

sweet crypt
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Koffing should have been OU type for the Smogon joke though

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And specifically Koffing

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Not Weezing

proper iris
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Agreed

sweet crypt
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Either that or Ho-Oh and Lugia

proper iris
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All three

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Bc mascots

proven geyser
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they probably didnt want the prevo to be a ridiculously "good" type

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there is some semblance of balance

proper iris
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But it'd be so funny

proven geyser
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WAIT

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I THOUGHT THAT WAS TRUANT

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BORING RAISES SP DEF ONA WASTED TURN

sweet crypt
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Seems like Gastrodon and Lati@s are the only OU type Pokemon

proven geyser
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dreepy just flinched my pidove and it raised its spdef

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holy shit this changes things

sweet crypt
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If I know how to read a type chart (I usually remember type MUs by memory so I'm not good at doing so), OU is weak to Ground

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Latios and Latias have Levitate

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Damn

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Also, is that 0 resists and a good number of SE targets?

proven geyser
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love how they made escape rope a key item, made it free in the shop, then forgot to remove it from random places

sweet crypt
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Shedinja is Sans type

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Why am I not surprised

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Rayquaza also has a type that's SE against everything

proven geyser
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ray moment

sweet crypt
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It's also not listed defensively

proven geyser
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what are some really common office worker lady names

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im thinking gertrude or bertha

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i went with regina

unkempt egret
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I mean this is the hack where I'm pretty sure they added three types just so they could give falinks the Silly Little Guys type

proven geyser
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big if true

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guys is probbly my favorite type so far

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now im trying to avoid using the inf candy, i'll try to use it only if i'm filling the dex for mons i wont use, or if i get a rare candy so i can just sell it and use the inf candy on whatever i would've used the rare on

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rn im looking for a male ralts with neutral or minus special atk nature, and hopefully trace to turn into sharpness, but i can settle for sync

sly ginkgo
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ngl it's a shame people care more about the number of times you hatch eggs/have encounters rather than the total amount of time you spend shiny hunting

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which is the reason why people bash on multigame hunts

proven geyser
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i mean

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ive never heard of multigame bashing

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but encounter tracking is how you determine if you're over odds

sly ginkgo
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yea
but apparently it's pretty bad elsewhere in the community because a mf had to make a video to sort things out

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because apparently some people think multigame hunts are cheating??

proven geyser
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imagine being a section of the community thats so tilted abt the littlest things

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instead of just being happy someone encountered the thing at all

sly ginkgo
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Pokemon fans are skilled at being unhappy

proven geyser
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case point the megaleak

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or tera or whatever

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rather the fact that people are impatient enough for it to even exist

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it's interesting to look at the things from it but it's completely ruined theory and lorecrafting bc we were never meant to see like 99% of it

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i forgot to check the nature and threw a ball by accident and caught a future timid gallade

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im finding timid ralts bc i have a timit synchronize ralts in the front face_of_disappointment

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ok. i found a sync female docile, we're just getting docile gallade

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i wonder if gallade is sharp or gender

proud igloo
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Its called the Teraleak

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Because a terabyte has been leaked.

proven geyser
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ahhh

proud igloo
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I don’t think the Teraleak has ruined worldbuilding and headcanons

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Because yes you could use it as evidence for your theories.

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But at the end of the day, we the public were never meant to see it. It was scrapped for a reason

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And I don’t mean the questionable lore pieces

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So you could argue that since it’s scrapped content it’s not real and thus can be ignored.

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Like I really doubt Gyarados, Dragonite and Tyranitar are meant to be underlings of Rayquaza now.

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And Ttar makes no sense

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Gyarados and Dragonite I can see but Tyranitar?

burnt basin
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Nice I got this Pokemon that I'll use as a tool to for HMs

sly ginkgo
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i wonder why gamefreak likes bulky ice types so much

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just a random thought

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i know glaciers are a thing that happens but the majority of ice types are way weaker than glaciers

brisk hedge
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They just want my boy to be unique

burnt basin
proud igloo
proud igloo
burnt basin
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TM55 is my favourite pokemon move

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Gee thanks alot nurse joy

west depot
naive timber
burnt basin
naive timber
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i swear tbh the old pokemon games like with that art style arent that good imo

burnt basin
naive timber
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bc like barely having color makes it feels so boring

burnt basin
west depot
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Im pretty sure there might be a gba remake

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I don't think it's official though

burnt basin
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At least you can capture some glitchmons lol

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And also capture mew

west depot
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But what's a glitchmon

burnt basin
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Then that's an example of a glitchmon

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And you'd be suprised that there's some glitchmons that can evolve into normal pokemon

west depot
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Are they just glitches

burnt basin
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Yea

west depot
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Like a Pokémon with a broken sprite or no sprite at all but still functions in battle

burnt basin
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Oh no there's some glitchmons that are ridiculously op

west depot
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Can you trade pokemon from the gba games to the gbc or gb games

burnt basin
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Idk

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There's also the merge glitch where you can merge two pokemon together

proven geyser
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is this like a romhack or are you just fucking upan innocent red rom for fun

burnt basin
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Im fucking up red for fun

proven geyser
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valid tbh

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glad i got my first growth/pinto power off before the taunt lol

proud igloo
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Oh shit Charizard ‘M

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Easily the devil of Pokémon

proven geyser
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brick your shit, but fire typed

proud igloo
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This is what happens when a Pokémon occupies the Cancel Pattern

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It also infects and turns every other Pokémon into itself like a virus

burnt basin
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Nice idk where the fuck I ended up

proud igloo
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This is the reason why when I was making Glitchmon into actual Pokémon I literally made Charizard ‘M to be the harbinger of destruction.

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Hell

proven geyser
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hell is usually more legible

burnt basin
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I love throwing masterballs in order for me to teleport into a random place

proud igloo
# sly ginkgo eh?

A scrapped B/W move found in the Tera Leak. Fire Pokémon would have learnt it and it would turn Ice types into Water types and Steel Types into Normal types

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Would have made those bulky ice types so much better

proper iris
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Sounds a little OP

proud igloo
proper iris
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But also fun

proud igloo
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Probably why it got cut

burnt basin
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Never stepping outaide of sliph co. ever again

proper iris
proud igloo
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Yes single player it’s useless

proud igloo
proper iris
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True true

proud igloo
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But in vgc and doubles, well it’s a different matter.

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Imagine having Melt and then turning Avalugg into pure Water

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Or just dismantling Zacian

burnt basin
proud igloo
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No what’s going on there is the consequences of catching Charizard ‘M

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And since you cannot get rid of it, well Kanto is gone

burnt basin
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Oh everything is a little funky

proper iris
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Ooooh i like that

proud igloo
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I made the demon who caused the apocalypse in my grimdark mystery dungeon storyline resemble a Charizard for a REASON

proper iris
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That's pretty

proud igloo
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Yeah that’s actually nice

proud igloo
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Pokémon Rainbow

proper iris
proud igloo
burnt basin
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Lol

proper iris
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W o a h

burnt basin
proud igloo
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My justification is that he’s not actually a Charizard or even a Pokemon so the general laws of Pokemon don’t apply to him, as a literal out of context situation.

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This how I can get away with him killing/corrupting Legendary Pokémon which no Charizard shouldn’t do.

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Bear in the mind the setting is SUPER OLD as I first came up with it back in 2008 so some bits are outdated and just edgy for the sake of edge.

proven geyser
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i mean most kidmade pokemon stuff is

proper iris
proven geyser
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for a little bit i had an idea for a region where the champion and "evil leader" were married, and the leader was puppetiered by an awful sewing needle fairy type spider

proud igloo
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I constantly update it with details from the Mystery Dungeon games when new titles come out

proper iris
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Honestly????? The first part of that idea now is something I NEED to see

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Either the champion or the professor being married to the big bad

proven geyser
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in fairness the bad isn't actually a bad.
there's also lowkey a fakeout/dig at the "evil teams having dark/poison mons" with the champion being a gruff dark/poison specialist

proud igloo
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Like how I’ve named all the regions and when Super Mystery Dungeon came out and confirmed my headcanon everything takes place on the same planet, but gave the continents stupid names so I stuck with my own custom ones.

burnt basin
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What does this item do

proper iris
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It ??????

proven geyser
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????? cant you read /j

proper iris
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That's what it does

proud igloo
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I even managed to work in the Wiiware titles I’ve never played and never will unless I can get Wii emulators to work.

proper iris
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Bro, wii emulators are wild.

burnt basin
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It's just surf lol

proud igloo
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Surfboard

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It’s the surfboard

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Scrapped item that is still in Gen 1 code

burnt basin
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Holy shit

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I managed to acquire it by means of breaking reality

proud igloo
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Yeah turns out HMs were not on the plans.

proper iris
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I remember long ago there was a workaround to make the wiimote work on emulator without an IR bar, and it involved literally lighting candles and praying to ancient gods that it worked

burnt basin
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Also oh no

proven geyser
proven geyser
proud igloo
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Yeah but these games only just recently got an English patch since the Mystery Dungeon Wiiware game never came out of Japan.

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They also used Pokémon Rumble/Ranch graphics.

proper iris
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Yeah but depending on your candles, it'd go wonky really quickly

proud igloo
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So all the Pokémon look like origami.

proper iris
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Honestly I kinda love that look

proven geyser
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oh i fucking love the goofy pointy toy style

proud igloo
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I also worked it into the lore

proper iris
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If/when I get a 3d printer, i gotta make those little guys as shelf decor

proven geyser
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calling them toy pokemon was probably a sudden thought that worked

proper iris
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Maybe even make them a few keys for them

proven geyser
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youd get so rich selling them/the print

proper iris
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Those games weren't popular here in Brazil

proven geyser
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well, online

proud igloo
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As I had it that Pixilion (My name for the Wiiware continent) housed the Tree of Life and the Pokemon there looked organic because everything was peaceful. Also Ilumina Pokémon existed there since I decided to make them canon and more Shiny Pokémon loved there. It was literal utopia.

proper iris
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Nor was PMD (mostly bc story-based, we never got a translation and only a very small percentage of people speaks English)

proven geyser
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tbf english is a bullshit language so i dont blame anyone

proper iris
proud igloo
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Also referencing how the most serious conflict in the Wiiware game is fighting over chocolate which compared to the existence ending threats other PMD had

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Is like wow

proper iris
proud igloo
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I had to make it a utopia and plus it’s the first PMD game to include catchable Shinies even before PMD DX

proper iris
proud igloo
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They were also handy since they had larger bellies. 200 belly compared to 100.

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So they were quite useful in big dungeons.

proper iris
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...i love that sentence

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And I'm now imagining shiny pokemon being rotund and adorable

proud igloo
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Other features Wiiware did first was evolving mid dungeon

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And you could stack Pokémon on top of each other to do combo attacks

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So naturally with such a cute and whimsical place, what did you think I decided its fate was when the apocalypse came calling?

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I completely blew the entire region up.

proper iris
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There's that edge you mentioned! :D

proud igloo
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Granted not everyone died but the survivors are few

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Tbf that place was a legit threat to the demon Charizard as Illumia Pokemon could actually kill him as well as Shiny Pokemon.

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So he was being quite smart about it.

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And naturally the survivors are the same boss Illumia Pokemon from the snap game, scattered across the world.

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The Steelix lives in the Rescue Team continent, the Meganium resides in the Explorers continent, the Milotic lives in the Super Mystery Dungeon continent, the Volcanrona lives in the desert continent you also get access to to in Super and the Wishiwashi wanders the oceans.

burnt basin
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Oh boy I'm in a new world

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Okay wait I just realised the crash barrier is non existent anymore

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I can freely walk around aimlessly

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I have discovered the end of the world

proud igloo
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You have found Pokémon’s Far Lands

burnt basin
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Literally

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I don't remember naming my rival that

proud igloo
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Oak has Dementia

proper iris
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He's trying his best

brisk hedge
proper iris
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Alternative interpretation: Blue has changed his birth name for another.
Oak still isn't used to it

proven geyser
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hes trying to be supportive but doesn't want to anger his grandkid, so he asks the childhood friend for confirmation

proper iris
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He's a good grandpa

proven geyser
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he's knows he'll always have trouble with these things so he does his best

brisk hedge
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The actual explanation is that it’s a joke between Oak and Blue

proven geyser
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also fun

brisk hedge
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Granted, this explanation is from the garbage game of Let’s Go, so I’m inclined to ignore it

proven geyser
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tbf, it's a good explaination

proper iris
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I mean, that game also explains the pokedex paradox by saying Blue had to write down notes about pokemon and locations on a map before Oak invented the modern dex

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So I'm willing to accept other reasonable explanations from it

brisk hedge
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The only explanation I want to hear from that game is why they thought those catching mechanics would be acceptable

proven geyser
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if that's it then that's easy

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it worked for Go so they thought they would try something out with a switch game

proper iris
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Oh that game is a "bridge" game

proven geyser
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it didn't work out so they have no reason to keep trying

proper iris
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The name itself says it. It's for people used to Go. To get them into the main series.

proven geyser
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thats also fair

hard plume
proven geyser
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also fair

brisk hedge
proper iris
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I personally found the catching mechanics to be fun. Not for every player, but fun for me at least.

proper iris
proven geyser
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it's like shit to mainline players, thats not really in contention

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it's a cute simplified bridge and throwback and thats what it exists for

brisk hedge
proper iris
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Not right off the bat

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They can learn later, after they get into the main main series

proven geyser
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the games themselves generally have information npcs

proper iris
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And tbh to this day there's a lot of people who play without paying attention to abilities or using held items

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This game is for those who play more casually.

proven geyser
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the only time i watch for abilities is when a pokemon has a common ability that is either useless or actively harms its usefulness, in which i make sure i get a good one

hard plume
proper iris
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SAME

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I love that candy mechanic

hard plume
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which can power up your bros

proper iris
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I just wish LG had more post-game stuff.

hard plume
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if they ever brought that mechanic back in the future, I think instead of candies it would be random items related to the pokemon's type or species

proper iris
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It's a fun little deviation from the mainline formula

proven geyser
proven geyser
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the bean has sprouted

burnt basin
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Chat give me a number on how many master balls should I toss out

rotund oracle
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12

burnt basin
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My game crashed

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Pick anotha

rotund oracle
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8?

burnt basin
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Game crashed

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Maybe not below 20

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Because that's where it just doesn't work

rotund oracle
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Hit 36.

burnt basin
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Safari zone

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Who knew red had stored 91 blues in his backpack

rotund oracle
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One for each time he's been beaten.

burnt basin
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BRO RED HOW MANY RIVALS ARE YOU GONNA BAG 😭

rotund oracle
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He's fit for the Team Rocket.

graceful osprey
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Cam you guess what I'm hunting

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Still works

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This took not even a full minute

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Lmao

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So for those who don't get it

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It's currently day time

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And I have a shiny ghost sandwich active

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The game forces a pokemon to stay if it's shiny

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So you can just sit here during the day and do this

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Nothing else will spawn

proven geyser
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same happens when shiny hunting sandygast in rain

graceful osprey
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And puffs in wind

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I think

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But yea that's also a great way to get sandygast

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Hope it rains

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And sit there

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Hey is the blue or red one large?

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With the zl view

burnt basin
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Jack in the bag

restive raptor
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Is there any hacks that includes shadow pokemon

coarse estuary
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would it be wise to exp edge my cutiefly before going into the grass totem so i can have ribombee for the totem or is that too much? (ultra sun wedlocke)

coarse estuary
coarse estuary
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so i do or dont exp edge before the trial

graceful osprey
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Go for it

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This is also my fear of the lurantis foght

coarse estuary
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well the plan is then i get just enough exp at the cap of 24 that i can beat a fomantis before the totem level up evolve and be able to pollen puff

sleek jewel
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🫲 :)/ 🫲 hug

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He dead now

sleek jewel
graceful osprey
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Switch

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Zero mods

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Just daytime and a ghost sandwich

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The best part is that it's not a bug

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It's just how the game works

coarse estuary
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in case anyone knows can someone tell me how i can use my pokemon white rom save on my hacked dsi xl on a copy of bw2 that is a rom on my hacked 2ds? ik cart save works on roms of bw2 i just dont know how to get the saves from roms to work with it

burnt basin
graceful osprey
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1v1 comp pokemon looks so

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Boring

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I have the disadvantage so i swap then hes at disadvantage so he swaps and it never fucking ends

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I understand why the most widely used format is doubles

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It prevents that shit

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Ok back to the bullshit that is kid buu

burnt basin
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Now why is red carrying 80 Trade Centers

proper iris
unkempt egret
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switching in 4v4 doubles carries an actual risk yea instead of something that is like at least 50% of the given moves in any 6v6 singles match

burnt basin
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I'm gonna try and cook something in red

burnt basin
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Oh boy

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Pcenemy MISSINGNO.

burnt basin
rotund oracle
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What an adventure

burnt basin
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From Celadon City to Celadon City

rotund oracle
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It's just like when I say I'm going to hit the town.

burnt basin
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Im gonna look it up and see what it does

gaunt cipher
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What is Pokemon Gaia even about bruh 🦀💀

burnt basin
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What the...

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Bro

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Whoever created that romhack should never cook again

proper iris
burnt basin
unkempt egret
proper iris
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That can be either great or awful

burnt basin
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Fuck sakes this is too complicated for me but I'll try

burnt basin
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HOLY SHIT

rotund oracle
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It was just in the backpack.

burnt basin
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Ok so i guess i turned my backpack into a pokemon factory

hard plume
burnt basin
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Yea i gotta watch out for that

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That's why i made save states

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Tho any glitch mons are fine except missingno

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Okay so 49 is missingno's species index good to know

proper iris
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So it's not missingno.

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It got a no.

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It's 49 now

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... This joke was funnier in my head

burnt basin
delicate hollow
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How do I beat Pokemon Snakewood?
I lost to 1 battle because of a stupid difficulty spike which was not intentional and I don't know if the ROM hack got any recent updates as I believe it uses base Ruby version and not Emerald version.

proper iris
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But yeah, wishing you luck with that bc I have no clue.

untold hill
sly ginkgo
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priority leer....

proper iris
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That's actually genius

proud igloo
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Because the latter is impossible even if you try to zone out the stupid plot

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If you are talking about the Wattson fight with Lv 100s that's a forced loss battle.

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As afterwards you need to turn off the power and then they get their levels nerfed to something more reasonable.

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Anyway back to Too Many Types which is 100% more fun then one of the worst Pokemon ROM hacks in existence.

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Pretty sure its Wailords that do that not the pre-evolution

unkempt egret
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isn't that type based entirely off that one markiplier video that violates a rule

proud igloo
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Probably

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Can't say anymore due to da rules

unkempt egret
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yea I forgot and got a 5 min timeout lol

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which understandable, bad word choices on my part

proud igloo
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I agree game, Growlithe is Friend Shaped

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Also catch for that Route

brisk hedge
# proud igloo

How would Wailmer be a good Pokémon for smash bros? It can’t even walk on land Trollgar

proud igloo
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Wailord is a better Pokeball Pokemon for that

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Ursaring is a Boomer

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Gonna fight Wattson now

brisk hedge
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Why is Mankee named “return 2”?

proud igloo
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return 2 monkee

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Because Mankey is Monkee in this

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Annnddd wiped

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Whimscott got its stupid Prime typed Rollout going

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Start again

brisk hedge
sly ginkgo
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hm

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is Pokemon Uranium still downloadable?

proud igloo
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If you look around

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Its not officially promoted due to Nintendo being anti-consumerism, but its being updated.

coarse estuary
sly ginkgo
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:0

brisk hedge
coarse estuary
proud igloo
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There’s a reason this used to be called official games but now it’s other games, coz we keep talking/playing fangames.

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Uranium is a game I never played but need to.

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I was thinking of doing a Professor’s Oak challenge of it but then the freaking Dunsparce evo for pre Badge 1 puts me off

proper iris
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Currently suffering in my challenge runs trying to find Chansey

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And then suffering more bc i bed a lucky egg from them

proud igloo
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Ouch

proper iris
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"I just wanna speed things up"

  • takes even longer trying to do the thing that'll "speed things up"-
north crow
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random question

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but why in god's name does mienfoo evolve at lvl 50

brisk hedge
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Because Unova

proper iris
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To piss us all off, is my best guess

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Ah yeah it's an unovan mon

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What on earth was up with the levels in that region

north crow
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alot of mons i think are cool are from that region

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only for them to evolve at lvl 50-64 range

brisk hedge
north crow
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that's fair but

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the earliest route you can get mienfoo on

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comes 1 level before it evolves

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it evolves later than a lot of pseudo legends with stats infiitely worse

proper iris
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I haven't played those games since I was like 13 or so, but I don't remember the levels being an issue inside unova itself, the issue is mostly with unovan mons in other regions. I wonder if that's just nostalgia glasses or if the games were balanced in a very specific way for their own mons.

brisk hedge
coarse estuary
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the problem with most unova mons is they are only ballanced for unova so if you want to used them for other regions they are in they will feel bad but not so in unova

north crow
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yeah that makes a bit more sense ig

north crow
proud igloo
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As much as I love Gen 5 the evolution requirements for the Unova Pokemon can die in a hole

brisk hedge
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Another issue with levels in Unova is that there’s a huge level jump when you get to the postgame

proud igloo
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Whoever said Hydregion should be obtained at Lv 64 needs to be shot

north crow
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this is the same gen where the final boss doesnt go above lvl 60

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even ghetsis's hydreigon is lvl 54

proud igloo
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Though I think Bravairy and Mandibuzz are worse on that because you expect the Pseudo Legendary to have sky high level requirements

coarse estuary
#

despite gen 5 being my favorite gen of all of them i do hate how most mons are late evolving two stages or 2 stage stone evos that make you wait like 20 levels+ after getting said stone so the mon can be usable

north crow
#

theyre not pseudos tho

proud igloo
north crow
proud igloo
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It has max Frustation in BW2 so it’s clear all his Pokémon hate him

proud igloo
north crow
#

yea

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imo

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pokemon shouldnt evolve further than like, 10-12 levels from their first evolve

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like lvl 16 evolve should be around 32-38

proud igloo
#

Zwelious isn’t until Lv 50

north crow
#

lvl 40 -> 50-52

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that idea

proud igloo
#

So that’s half the problem

north crow
#

ye

north crow
#

my point still applies to non starters too tho

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kirlia is at 20, gardevoir is at 30

proper iris
#

In general: unovan mons need to be rebalanced

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Bc holy fuck.

north crow
#

if they ever remake unova

proud igloo
#

Question did they change this for Hisuian Braviary?

north crow
#

in any capacity

proud igloo
north crow
#

its just that you cant catch a rufflet early enough for it to matter

proud igloo
#

I don’t want a BD/SP style remake of BW

brisk hedge
#

What’s worse, the late ass evolution levels or all the weird and or annoying new evolution methods

north crow
#

both

north crow
proper iris
#

Legends kyurem instead plz

coarse estuary
#

imo unova gets overhated. too many people are to focused on the flaws of unova to see the good things unova has because everyone was brainwashed that gen 5 bad so thats the view they have and arent willing to change it

north crow
#

legends style would still work

proper iris
#

Imagine wild west unova

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That's all

proud igloo
#

This is why I make it a rule even in my blind Playthroughs to look up evolution requirements

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Because there’s no way you can figure out some of them

north crow
brisk hedge
proud igloo
north crow
#

yeah good luck trying to evolve inkay w/o knowing to turn your console upside down

proper iris
proper iris
coarse estuary
north crow
#

its in hindsight with the last 3 generations getting continuously weaker in terms of gameplay and story telling

north crow
#

that people are like "yeah maybe gen 5 wasnt so bad"

proper iris
brisk hedge
north crow
#

pokemon fans tend to listen to whatever their favorite poketuber says until theyre outed as a predator

brisk hedge
#

Otherwise, Unova’s great

proud igloo
#

I don’t pay attention to Poketubers

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I see them all as attention seeking arseholes

north crow
#

well yeah theyre poke-tubers

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anyhow

coarse estuary
#

oh. i wasnt here when the convo started i just came in and saw everyone complainin bout unova so i thought this was a unova hate discussion

proper iris
#

There's a couple i watch that are fun but my opinions are often different from theirs

north crow
#

and i mentioned mienfoo being lvl 50 requirement

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which happened to be gen 5

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and gen 5 has a lot of unnecessarily late evolutions

brisk hedge
proud igloo
#

Ursaluna is also another stupid one

coarse estuary
#

like gen 5 bw1 and bw2 are my favorite pokemon games of all time so ill always defend them when i hear unova hate lol

proud igloo
#

The held item okay but then have to tie it in with the full moon?

proper iris
#

Anyway. Unova is a bit of a dark horse. People hated it when it came out but now it's so widely beloved

north crow
#

tbf

proud igloo
#

Worse if you are playing Go as it’s tied in with the irl lunar cycle

north crow
#

you can skip time in legends arceus

proud igloo
#

But you can’t skip time irl

north crow
#

yeah you can

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go sleep

proper iris
#

Even some mons that were wildly disliked such as thrubbish now got a lot of fans

north crow
#

a lot of pokemon in gen 5 had alot of haters for being bad

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but that's mostly because people hated the idea of being locked to just one gen of mons

proud igloo
#

I often say Gen 1 has bad designs in counter to this

north crow
#

most people do

north crow
#

but then they say "oh but it was the first gen"

proper iris
#

That was the issue back then

brisk hedge
north crow
#

i personally think forcing you to use the new gens mon

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should be required

proper iris
#

We didn't know we were going to see our old favorites again

proud igloo
#

I do it to myself all the time

north crow
#

most people do

brisk hedge
north crow
#

funnily enough

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gen 5 had the biggest same-gen dex

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out of any gen iirc

proper iris
#

Schoolyard talks were full of "they're throwing away everything before this generation" and "they won't let us bring our old teams to this" and so on.

proud igloo
#

And this was before Dexit

proper iris
#

Yeeep

north crow
#

i think the bigger problem was that they put every pokemon in gen 6

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but only gave us about 70 new pokemon in that region

brisk hedge
#

Bring back the national dex!!!!!!!!!!!!

coarse estuary
#

i bet 99% of people who hated on gen 5 were the people who were genwunners or people who were mad they couldnt use the same copy paste team for each game

proper iris
north crow
#

it was them planning ahead tbf

proud igloo
#

It was literally genwunners who bashed Gen 5

north crow
#

they knew they were gonna end up needing every mon in 3d eventually

proper iris
#

Mostly people who didn't know actually

north crow
#

but to do it in the first game to 3d

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was a bad idea imo

proper iris
#

A lot of the gen 5 bashing at the time wasn't even genwunners

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It was people just being ill-informed

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And afraid

north crow
#

or ignorant.

brisk hedge
proud igloo
#

I think the jump to 3D is when things went down hill for Game Freak, as they clearly didn’t know how to do and as technology got more advanced it got worse and worse

proper iris
#

Yeeeep

north crow
#

they knew how to do it

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it was that they just didnt have enough time

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dev time kept getting smaller and smaller each new gen

proper iris
#

I remember the jump to 3d clearly.

north crow
#

but let's be real

proper iris
#

That was actually magical to many of us

north crow
#

they never were very good at programming

proper iris
#

And it was beloved at the time

north crow
#

gen 2 was a mess w/o outside help

proud igloo
#

Oh yeah I think that goes without saying

proper iris
brisk hedge
#

Nock on wood

north crow
proper iris
#

Not so much compress anything

proud igloo
#

I don’t think the delay was because of that

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I think it’s more because the anime hasn’t caught up

north crow
#

the anime hasnt caught up because the anime is doing it's own thing now

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so they dont have to worry about it as much

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the only other problem now is marketing plushes rn

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and the cards

proper iris
#

A lot of people say Iwata saved the code or made the whole thing fit the cartridge but no. His code helped the game load images fractions of a second faster, which did help a lot, but it's not as gigantic as people like to claim

brisk hedge
proud igloo
#

Merch is half the problem because merch dev time is much shorter then game time

north crow
#

well yes

north crow
#

they still need to milk the others

proud igloo
#

Yeah you forgot Charizard

proper iris
#

It's called "most of the fanbase is casual"

north crow
#

🙄

proper iris
#

They go for the recognizable ones bc they sell

north crow
#

yea

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if you dont have some merch of someone's favorite though

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then theyll complain

proud igloo
#

Typhlosion merch won’t sell well now

north crow
#

actually

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his stuff has been selling better

brisk hedge
north crow
#

ironically enough.

proud igloo
#

For the right or wrong reasons?

north crow
#

does it matter what reasons?

proper iris
#

It already fit before

north crow
#

all they see is that its selling more

brisk hedge
coarse estuary
#

to try and lighten the mode this is my current unova team 5/6 members are here.

north crow
#

nice

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i lost my 3DS charger so i have to use an emulator to play gen 5 now

proud igloo
#

Pidove HM slave nice

coarse estuary
#

i also have a shiny metagross hm slave

proper iris
north crow
#

also

proud igloo
#

I also realise I haven’t actually finished Brilliant Diamond and Legends Arceus.

north crow
#

despite my complaints of a lot of gens

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I love em all

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even the bad remakes

proper iris
#

Same

north crow
#

BDSP for all it's flaws are the same flaws that the original had. It's at its core still a good game that people enjoy

proper iris
#

Tbh the bad remakes look adorable

brisk hedge
#

There’s one bad remake that I don’t love

proud igloo
#

I respect the lack of bad joke for your Amonguss.

north crow
#

for what it's worth

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gen 4 got massively improved by the changes they did do in bdsp

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that hp scroll speed

brisk hedge
#

Most of the other bad games are more so disappointing

north crow
#

most of the bad games are just people asking for too much

proud igloo
#

Also BD doesn’t want to explode my Switch like the originals almost killed my DS

north crow
#

FRLG had so much extra content because they already made RSE

proud igloo
#

This is why the Sus type exists in Too Many Types

north crow
#

ngl

brisk hedge
#

There are much worse types than Sus

north crow
#

i wish they made ice resist fairy

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like the leaks said it was going to

spare badge
#

can someone advise me a recent fan game

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or romhack

north crow
#

like?

spare badge
#

just one of ur favs

north crow
#

ah

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hm

spare badge
#

with graphics similar to fusion

north crow
#

i dont actually play that many rom hacks now that i think about it

spare badge
#

or just not an old graphic style

#

one

north crow
#

well

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gl there

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most really good rom hacks are made in gba

spare badge
#

oh

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okay i might try then

#

whats one u really likled

brisk hedge
#

GBA graphics are passable

north crow
#

im bias for gba graphics

proper iris
#

If you got a friend who really understands electronics, you can get the regular charging port swapped for an USB-C

north crow
#

but thats bc of fire emblem

brisk hedge
#

Gen 1 and 2 graphics are the bad ones

north crow
#

honestly

#

i like gen 1/2 graphics

proper iris
north crow
#

its 100% dated tho

brisk hedge
#

Plus, there’s no reason to play RB or GS over FRLG or HGSS

north crow
#

debatable

brisk hedge
#

Though I guess that doesn’t effect rom hacks

proper iris
#

They're their own kind of fun

north crow
#

for rom hacks

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i recommend crystal clear

proper iris
#

Crystal legacy and yellow legacy

north crow
#

as thats the only one iv played recently

proper iris
#

My recommendations

brisk hedge
#

Isn’t that the open world one?

north crow
#

yea

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its pretty solid

#

tbf

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i think i have bias against HGSS

north crow
#

cause i played gen 1 and 2 in one sitting to completion when i was spending a week playing every 1-6 gen

proper iris
north crow
#

so HGSS just feels really sluggish to play

#

compared to GSC

brisk hedge
#

That’s probably because of the Gen 4 speed

north crow
#

it is 100%

brisk hedge
#

Otherwise, HGSS > GS

#

HGSS is also the best remake IMO

proper iris
#

That I agree with

north crow
#

i like ORAS remake wise

unkempt egret
#

it has the most content of any mainline pokemon game to date for sure

north crow
#

sadly it doesnt address the glaring level issues with gen 2

#

:(

unkempt egret
#

which is busting its booty doing a midgame split

brisk hedge
north crow
#

like?

#

speaking of busting booty, time to fight the triple bird fusion.

brisk hedge
#

Battle Frontier, you fighting both evil teams and better gym leader teams

north crow
#

that's not an improvement

#

its just re-using assets

brisk hedge
#

Which?

north crow
#

battle frontier

#

fighting both evil teams is nice but also it's a different story altogether re-using what was there in both Ruby and Sapphire

unkempt egret
#

I would say "better" but I know some people disagree on that

north crow
#

It's an alternative

proper iris
#

Also.
The actual teams of the grunts.

north crow
#

but not strictly better

proper iris
#

That stuff was just ridiculous.

unkempt egret
#

I do say that HGSS gets a lot from being more of a remake of crystal with GS exclusives on them

brisk hedge
#

It’s better because it includes the regular battle tower plus a bunch of extra facilities

north crow
#

🤷‍♂️ content that most casual players dont attempt

proper iris
#

Also HGSS got its own share of original new features too

proper iris
unkempt egret
#

ORAS also has had the advantage of gen 4-6 mon imports as the PSS

north crow
#

yeah

#

but

proper iris
#

Which is why battle facilities were the best

north crow
#

its content that isn't needed anymore with modern technology

unkempt egret
proper iris
#

As a kid i have no craps about that stuff

unkempt egret
#

not worth the dev time compared to something like an animated trailer or more mega designs that will get more overall attention

proper iris
#

But as an adult I appreciate the extra challenge

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So it is something that adds to the fun of different sets of people

brisk hedge
#

I messed around a lot with the Platnuim battle frontier as a kid

north crow
#

yeah the thing is

proper iris
#

Without being in the way of either

north crow
#

the games are geared towards kids

#

the battle facilities were mostly there as content for people who didnt have a link cable/friends to play with

unkempt egret
#

same here with DP's battle tower

brisk hedge
#

The unique battle styles were fun

proper iris
#

If they really want things to be flashy and get people's attention

unkempt egret
#

didn't really fall out of the battle facilities until gen 8

#

and that's mostly because of replayable save files lol

proper iris
#

They really need to add voice acting

brisk hedge
proper iris
#

Bc ffs some cutscenes and whatnot actually lose impact from having sound but not voice

north crow
#

Otherwise they cant encourage you to pay $20 for online.

lusty iris
#

why do we assume they listen

north crow
#

like literally animal crossing sounds would be better than nothing

proper iris
#

Even if it was like voiceless voice acting (think Undertale or Phoenix Wright or Don't Starve)

#

Something that can fill in the silence and give it all more oomph

north crow
#

just

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literally anything other than the scene with piers

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no volume at all

lusty iris
brisk hedge
#

Anyways, here’s my main series remake ranking:

  1. HGSS
  2. ORAS
  3. FRLG
  4. BDSP
  5. Let’s Go
proper iris
#

I need a mod that adds fandubs over it all

#

Huh

north crow
#

lol

#

mine is
ORAS
FRLG
BDSP
HGSS

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cause gen 4 speeds suck mega ass

unkempt egret
#

there's also the issue of having to get a unique dub for every language which adds to the issue

north crow
proper iris
#

As I said: voiceless voice acting

#

Also: you just really need Japanese and English dubs

north crow
#

ehh..

#

yes, but no

proper iris
#

Most games out there don't really get dubs in all the languages they're sold in

brisk hedge
north crow
#

Yes

#

there's a reason almost every country also teaches english in some capacity

proper iris
#

Subbed yes

#

But dubbed, to this day, only games made in Brazil.

#

Because it's literally not a thing they do for many many languages

north crow
#

oh

proper iris
#

And even the subtitling is a thing that only started happening in late 2010s

#

To this day pokemon isn't in my language, and we cope.

#

It still sells amazingly here

#

As it does in many other countries without translation

#

So if so many can enjoy these games not even knowing what the hell the game is about, people can enjoy it even if the dubs aren't in their language

brisk hedge
#

People can also enjoy it without voice acting, as they’ve been doing it for years

proper iris
#

True

#

But voices would improve a lot

#

Again: remember Piers?

brisk hedge
#

Quite frankly, they’re way more important issues that need to be dealt with before we can consider adding voice acting

proper iris
#

Is any of those issues related to the sound department?

#

Bc there's different groups of people dealing with different issues

#

Also multiple issues can be solved in one installment

#

Also they've already done voice acting in spinoffs so it's not new

hard plume
#

One of the things I do appreciate in Scarlet and Violet is the variety of animations that all the obtainable pokemon have.
They have an idle animation when they are calm, one where they are in battle (some look more subtler than others)
two special animations that you can easily trigger with the syncro machine
four emote animations for various situations (pleased, battle cry, displeased, and shaking off after being cleaned)
Plus, some pokemon have additional animations when they are swimming or flying, not to mention that all of them have proper sleeping animations outside of battle.

#

The only complaint is that I think that there should be some smoother transitions when it comes to going from calm idle to battle idle

#

Some pokemon do have this, but most of them don't and it makes it look pretty jank

proper iris
#

Gotta love those little bits of life breathed into them all like that

hard plume
#

And its for every single one that you can obtain.
That's an ass ton of work

proper iris
#

They have been building that for a while too, bc PLA already had all of that too but a considerably smaller dex

hard plume
#

It's the same kind of method they did in Gen 8 with the Gen 7 models, but now instead of models from the 3DS being upscaled for the switch, its models from a switch game getting polished in another switch game

proper iris
#

Why reinvent tree wheel when you can simply improve upon what's already there

hard plume
#

(I also like the quality of life changes they did as well. Removing the middle man to give pokemon nicknames, as well as remembering and forgetting moves is a really smart decision)

proper iris
#

REAL

hard plume
#

(And PLA also did a pretty cool idea of having the player decide when they can evolve their pokemon, as well as introducing LINK CABLES)

proper iris
#

Link cables are life savers that should've been created ages ago

proud igloo
#

Trading Evos is a outdated and bad feature

#

I don’t care if the Link Cable is hard to get, just as long as it’s THERE

proper iris
#

I feel like keeping them as an alternative to the link cable is acceptable, but as the only way to evolve, absolutely not, we don't all have friends who play the game

proud igloo
#

Because I’m sure it was a feature that tried to encourage socialisation, but here’s the cold hard truth

#

Firstly most people don’t have irl friends who play Pokemon

proper iris
#

Also playing older games makes it even harder to find anyone that plays

proud igloo
#

And also I went through the time period where mentioning Pokemon at school was a one way ticket to getting bullied.

#

As well as the likelihood of getting mugged and your games stolen.

proper iris
#

Actually anything locked behind communication features is likely to eventually become impossible

proud igloo
#

Because of online features being shut down?

proper iris
#

Wanna get a spiritomb in the gen 4 games? Sucks to be you.
Already sucked back in the day but still

proper iris
#

Even local communication gets harder

proud igloo
#

Wi-Fi made trading easier but then came an issue,would you trust someone to give your Pokemon back?

#

And ESPECIALLY if it happened to be a shiny.

proper iris
#

If I didn't have multiple DS and 3DS, over half my Platinum team would be unevolved bc no one has a ds anymore

proud igloo
#

Only way to get it evolved was to have two consoles and multiple games.

proper iris
#

Yeeep

proud igloo
#

And it’s even worse with the Switch for two reasons

proper iris
#

You gotta pay to be online

proud igloo
#

Firstly you can’t get a second Switch as it’s waaayyy more expensive

#

And the online requirements payment.

proper iris
#

I'm here waiting for the switch 2 to release so I can get a switch for a bit cheaper bc otherwise it costs more than what minimum wage for a whole month is worth, here

#

A bit over 2000 reais.

#

How the hell does anyone have two of those

proud igloo
#

Depends on the country

coarse estuary
#

because they got one before the price hike and also depends on country

proud igloo
#

Brazil does get the shorter end of the stick there but some countries are quite lucky you can

indigo wharf
#

This is my Pokemon xenoverse team so far

proud igloo
#

Japan is one example since Yen is historically quite low valued.

proper iris
#

I guess so, yeah

proud igloo
#

This is also why you could end up spending lots of money there without knowing.

coarse estuary
#

i mean look at me i dont have 2 switches but i got 3 differnt 2ds systems and a dsixl

proud igloo
#

Another good bargain Switch place though good luck getting a Switch there now is Russia.

#

Australian is one place I don’t recommend doing this.

#

But in all honesty assuming the Switch 2 is backwards compatible you could probably answer your trading issues there.

proper iris
#

ONE.
ONE LUCKY EGG FOUND

#

Why are these things so hard to find

unkempt egret
#

riiiip

#

can't get shadow costumed vulpix this year

#

just had a grunt with one and the shadow pix was regular

#

I have some left over from last year but none with any good stats lol

north crow
#

oh hey

#

i found a picture of my XY Trainer when I replayed the game a few years ago

sleek jewel
north crow
sleek jewel
north crow
#

I noticed lol.

coarse estuary
#

i figured id repost this as there are some new people active here but, these are my favorite teams ive used in each mainline game. (if a game has a remake asuume the team is for the remake) let me know yalls thoughts on each team

north crow
#

ohh

#

I dont remember all my teams.

#

but blastoise gang

#

i could try to remember what i used

sleek jewel
coarse estuary
burnt basin
#

I got this thingamajig

coarse estuary
#

yooh 8th floor item hype

burnt basin
#

Yea I'm doing the catch em all alternative script

sleek jewel
coarse estuary
#

none as ive never beat the og diamond or pearl. plus these are just my favorite teams for each region (remakes when applicable) not nesiccarily my first team for each gen

coarse estuary
#

well ive tried nuzlockes of plat but always just got bored and quit

north crow
#

Felt

sleek jewel
coarse estuary
#

what you mean what did i add all of them

north crow
#

ima make one my self actually

sleek jewel
#

what software

sleek jewel
north crow
#

a list of my teams for each gen that i remember

sleek jewel
#

same XD

coarse estuary
#

no software i just went to the team planning website made each team, then screenshotted it then pasted each screenshot on a page and ordered them

sleek jewel
#

even tho i did it MANY times

coarse estuary
#

and just a reminder these are my favorite teams ive used for each game not neccicarily my first ever team used in each game

north crow
#

im going off of my most recent team

#

which usually consists of my favorites of that gen when i replay

sleek jewel
north crow
#

probably any paint software.

coarse estuary
#

i didnt use anything like i said i just pasted each screenshot itno a doc and resised them

north crow
#

^

#

although ill prob use my first team if i remember

sleek jewel
#

idk how can i add my teams here

#

at once

north crow
#

they used this and took pics

#

im counting remakes separately

#

except for FRLG/HGSS

proper iris
#

I'm STILL looking for the damn lucky eggs

#

Why is platinum platinum

proud igloo
#

Brilliant Diamond or Legends Arceus

#

Which one should I finish first

#

The former I stopped playing because of boredom and the latter was due to life and then forgetting about it

#

However the fact these two are unfinished bothers me greatly

north crow
#

legends arceus

sleek jewel
#

i made my teams for all games and remakes

north crow
#

in SV i learnt that iron valiant was post game so i cheated one in lmao

sleek jewel
north crow
#

???

sleek jewel
#

how do i make it like you did

north crow
#

i just used paint...

sleek jewel
#

how do you take a screenshot about your screen

north crow
#

windows + shift + s

sleek jewel
#

and where does it save?

north crow
#

to your clip board

#

so you need to paste it.

summer wyvern
#

does anyone have a download link to pokemon radical red?

burnt basin
#

I caught a trainer!

sleek jewel
#

@proper iris @north crow ive done it

#

it took me FOREVOR but i did it

#

heres me teams

#

you guys might not see but i did

proper iris
#

Seriously impressive

sleek jewel
proven geyser
#

p sure this fucker have like negative attack ivs, had to cull a fuckton of krabby, corphish, and mankey

#

cant tell if watering actually does anything or if it's just to add plant parent vibes

hot saffron
#

the new pokemon card game app just dropped

proper iris
#

Fun fun

coarse estuary
#

i just realized gen 8 wasnt the first game with a version exclusive gym leader. gen 5 was

unkempt egret
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yea the difference there is minor (and omitted in B2/W2 but yea)

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I think the main difference is what ability druddigon has? I know the teams are identical in terms of species

coarse estuary
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the only differences are in black you fight drayden and all his pokemon are male and in white you fight irus and all her pokemon are female. same moves and ablities though

unkempt egret
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let me check I could have sworn the abilities were different on one mon

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genders are right. Drayden has rough skin on druddigon and rivalry on haxorus, iris has sheer force (useless, she has no moves that get the boost from it) on druddigon and mold breaker on haxorus

coarse estuary
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oh good to know. i thought it was exact same moves and abilites just swapped genders

burnt basin
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Yoooo [Redacted] is my favourite pokemon

sweet crypt
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This is easy/normal btw she just always has that on Druddigon there

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Apparently her Druddigon and Haxorus always have items no matter the difficulty

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Even the Pokemon replacing Druddigon on Challenge Rematch, Salamence, has Life Orb

burnt basin
sweet crypt
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Those slots always are Life Orb and Focus Sash respectively

burnt basin
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Fucked up looking bulbasaur

graceful osprey
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I wish there was a way to see how far along the outbreak is

burnt basin
timid dome
harsh lion
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Am i the only one whose pokemon pocket won't work on my phone ? I have flashscreen and it freezes when i get out of the app

atomic orchid
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https://bogleech.com/pokemon/p1011dipplin
Dipplin and Hydrapple review from an… otherwise unconventional-take reviewer
“Dipplin is every bit the perfect baby as Applin, now one of my new favorite-ever Pokemon, and could have only been more "me" with a slightly different type combination, which is a pretty minor point. As I mentioned in my original review of this line, a wormy apple is even kind of complementary to the "pollution and garbage" Pokemon I like to amass, and now it's a wormy candied apple...a classic Autumn and Halloween treat!”

peak granite
timid dome
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If anyone else wants to add me go for it

peak granite
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I really love Poketwos Event Salandit 😍 it's called Fire-Fairy Salandit

idle sapphire
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2298273967381392 is my ID for the new TCG game!

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Sent you guys Friend requests!

burnt basin
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I got the rare Pokémania type

idle sapphire
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XD

burnt basin
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Cooltrainer type of move

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Also my hud bar turned red

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Cool

proud igloo
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Cooltrainer move freezes the game

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Looking at Gen 1 its a miracle how the game even works with all of these glitches

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I actually prefer Gen 1 glitches over other gens breaking because yes its amazing how much the game breaks apart but if you are a normal player you don't see half of this

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You have to go out of your way to do this.

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Compare that with S/V where map glicthes happens whenever you like it or not

burnt basin
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Gen 1 games are honestly my favourite

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True favourite infact

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There's so much shit to explore in the game

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The best part about this is that you can pull of some ACE shit to turn it into a different game

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Like Pokemon yellow being turned into Tetris

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sleek jewel
sleek jewel
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@burnt basin sir?

burnt basin
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Yes

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It turned my hud red

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Nice

pine ingot
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4194504778147534 my friend code if anyone wants to add me

sleek jewel
burnt basin
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Mmmmm

untold hill
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Quite the code ngl

burnt basin
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A piece of screw

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Aaaand it played a slowed down version of a trainer encounter

burnt basin
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Why is it trying to learn tackle

north crow
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Gen 3 literally has different gym leaders entirely lol

sleek jewel
burnt basin
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Casually summons a surfboard to means of breaking reality

burnt basin
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A curious mf I am

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I'm gonna try to A.C.E from Pokemon Red to Super Mario Land 2

swift sphinx
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If anyone wants to add me TCG Pocket: 1758928947041298

unkempt egret
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good choice

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last time I played SML2 was when I was on a flight in the summer

burnt basin
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The required items are gonna take a while

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10 missingnos' later

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Actually Just M

burnt basin
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Oh are you shitting me it doesn't work on mobile

gaunt cipher
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Gawddamn so much message

burnt basin
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Wth kind of type combination is that

warm rose
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2 shiny boiz

peak granite
burnt basin
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Oh right I forgot about hisuian zorua/zoroark

burnt basin
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Well then I just got jumpscared by this