#other-pokemon-games

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proven geyser
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i need to get bank on my system NOW

proud igloo
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But a large majority were

proper iris
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Hades did kidnap a girl from her mother and caused intense grief for all involved

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Also worth remembering all myths have a context.

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They're meant to explain why things happen

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How things came to be

proven geyser
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jsjsjnsbxx

proud igloo
proven geyser
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my mespirit is named spirit
guess the name of azelf

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guess

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PLEASE

proud igloo
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Frisk

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Hal

proper iris
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Elf

proven geyser
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william

proper iris
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AHSUHAUAHSHA

proven geyser
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ALMANDSJJS RIGHT???

proper iris
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Legendaries with regular-ass names are fun

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FUCKING RALTS TELEPORTED

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NOOOOO

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There goes my catch chance for this route

proven geyser
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good god,,,,

proper iris
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Lemme find my X...

proven geyser
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darkrai still has its enigma berry

proper iris
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Now I wanna see what I have

proven geyser
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THE UNIVA STAYEYERS HAVE THEIR HIDDEN APBUDOORYS

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I CHECK SERP AND ITS CONTRARY WTF

proper iris
proven geyser
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i bred them for dex and the servine also has con lsmsmskjsjs

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oh pignites hidden is different from emboar

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thick fat into reckless

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my other hoopa is in the extras box lmfao

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so funny that meloetta has lvl 1 moveset and its lvl 100

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the zark is in an ultra ball heehee

proper iris
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... i accidentally turned off the DS again

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Why is the switch in this thing so sensitive

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But got my 3ds and let's see what we got in the boxes

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Ok that's a decent amount of legends. All until celebi (other than the regis) are event mons.

proven geyser
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op x has an update

proper iris
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I have no clue about that celebi, it is from pokemon link, so

proven geyser
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so y is the game stuck in my 2ds's missing sd card

proper iris
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I'm not entirely sure if it's legit or if I Action Replay'd it in a previous gen

proven geyser
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honestly i got the physical x at rhe same time as my y downloaded system, so if i do have gifts i can only pray i got them on both

proper iris
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Fingers crossed

proven geyser
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a vivillion, a heracross, and a pumpkaboo

proper iris
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... wait

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I got something cool here

proven geyser
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th gts is dead so patterns dont matter anymore

proper iris
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's a dream ball, right?

proven geyser
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ye

proper iris
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Awesome

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So at least something from the dream world is still with me

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I'm happy about that

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Oh there's also a DW misdreavus!

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... And two boxes of mudkips.

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OH I HAVE THE EVENT BLAZIKENNNN

proven geyser
proper iris
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Goddamn these boxes are a mess

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Pretty

proven geyser
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thats it

proper iris
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With hold hands

proven geyser
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i nevr caught enough to get beyond 7 FUCKING BOXES

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I BEAT THE GAME

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brb strangling my kid self

proper iris
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I used to be a breeder for my more competitive-inclined friends so I got way too much in these boxes

proven geyser
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if i have ANY good shit at ALL it's on y i bet

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fuck this vivillion im resetting lmfao

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just the audacity of having event pokemon and theyre all just random cutesy things makes me irrationally angry

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its so funny and also annoying

proper iris
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I like it nowadaya

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Feels fun to have them in the collection

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Oh wait

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I found a vivillon

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Same as yours

proven geyser
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its an event pattern i believe

proper iris
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Seems to be

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Also same moveset so same event likely

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There's also a handful of eggs. Should I hatch them?

proven geyser
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oh for sure

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im still gonna be a girl bc the clothes are cuter

proper iris
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Best reason

proven geyser
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real

proper iris
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WAIT

proven geyser
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also gives bisexual shauna so

proper iris
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WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT

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OH MY GODDD

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I FOUND MY BLACK TEAM HERE

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INCLUDING MY SHINY AUDINO

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AAAAAA

proven geyser
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i feel like a lot of people have shiny audino lmao

proper iris
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I'm so mad they took away her name. She was called Violet but for some reason they didn't let the name carry over.

proper iris
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At least one of the first ones that's still with me

proven geyser
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after i said it i realized thta it sounded dismissive

proper iris
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It's OK

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No offense taken

proven geyser
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THE CHARACTER HOLDIN THE PIKACHU 3DS AAAA

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im gonna have the friends call me "my dude"

vernal garnet
# proven geyser 🤦

Yeah thats an ‘event’ pattern. Its readily availabe in gen 9 tho for some reason

proper iris
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3 eggs found, let's see what hatches

proven geyser
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furthur reason not to give a shit abt it lmao

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if not for the documentary bit this would be a horse girl movie, probably one based on the kids mom

proper iris
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It's very possible!

proven geyser
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that tidbit immediately reminded me she was a rhyhorn racer

proper iris
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Holy moly these eggs are from 2016

proven geyser
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omg shauna haiiiii

proper iris
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Imagine waiting 8 years to be born

proven geyser
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OMGAODOMGODMOGS THE RHYHORN IS LOAFING

proper iris
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That's a really big loaf

proven geyser
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i lov him

young cedar
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Yeah I even have the MicroSD to USB dongle so I can get it done, it's just a shame I'll have to dump money on a battery (and maybe a new cord if that doesn't work) in order to use it again lol

proper iris
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Egg 1/3 hatched! It's a mudkip.

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2/3!... Also a mudkip.

proven geyser
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yeah none of that lady f bullshit, thanks

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call me a guy

proper iris
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3/3... You guessed it. Mudkip.

proven geyser
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ah right, can't have any capitalization

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plankton correct soundbyte

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im glad shauna seems to understand

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fuck i have to do this every time im shiny sring

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FIRST TRY FEMALE??????

proper iris
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OOOOOOOH YEAH

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Now back to Plat~

proven geyser
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ugh, no, but imagine

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first try shiny would've been a blessed playthrough

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saved so the next step i take is the cutscene

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oh shit the next ones not shiny, thank fuck bc the hp iv is so shit it was only 19 hp

cloud quartz
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Pokemon za from the guy who leaked everything supposedly.

tight granite
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holy shit a cat

proven geyser
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totally not just pngs lmfao

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definitely totally real gameplay (100% real)

tight granite
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i mean there is no gameplay shown

proven geyser
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it literally could be anything, showing a software jailbroken into having a different icon so you can show it next to your cat isn't proof of shit

proper iris
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Definitely.

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But also that's a cute cat

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So even if that's not real in the slightest, at least we have that

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As usual, take all leaks with a grain of salt, and have cautious hope

cloud quartz
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True all leaks should be taken with a grain of salt.

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Just like that trailer.

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Nothing is confirmed until we see it with our own eyes.

proper iris
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If that one is true, nice. If not, it's a great fanwork.

cloud quartz
proper iris
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Oh that there will be intriguing

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Can't wait to see what all these source codes will do to the modding community

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Hopefully something fun

cloud quartz
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So quite a bit of pokemon mainline games src have been dropped some are incomplete tho.

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Hg ss as well I think

proper iris
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Ooooh that is one I'm particularly curious about

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Ok so we got to hearthome and I'm conflicted on whether to keep Dusty in the main battle team for a while longer or to start getting her ready for contests

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Bc moveset needed will be quite different

proven geyser
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so you find dustox to be a productive member of the battle team, or is she just kinda sitting there?

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had to do some shit first but on my 4th sr my fennekin is again female, making my ratio 50/50

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but if dusty isn't a productive battler, you can safely swap her to contests

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i know bugs don't normally do very well in battling

proper iris
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But compared to everyone else, I guess she's pulling her weight quite well

proven geyser
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POG

proper iris
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So I guess I'll keep her on the main team

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Current worry is that the one mon i got with dark moves is benched

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And Fantina is the next gym leader

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And this is breakable tm era

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... wouldn't make much of a difference bc no tm i have would help

cloud quartz
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Don't wanna leak it here since it's big stuff that Nintendo wouldn't be happy with.

proven geyser
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if i get to 10 SRs no shiny fen im not nicknaming it

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"my dude" is required, as it plus the male name offsets the fem pronouns

proper iris
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Can't wait for the day we're allowed to pick pronouns separate from looks in these games

proven geyser
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i'll try 2 "my guy"s, just to shake it up

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SO REAL

proper iris
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Who do I need to bribe in order to get a they/them in these games

proven geyser
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or when they default to they/them for everyone and remove the shitty fans

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REAL

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at least they/them in english comon

proper iris
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And we know spinoffs have used those pronouns for characters already so it's not like it's unheard of in the franchise

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Blanche from GO for instance

proven geyser
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in magikarp jump ur androgynous little homie, and referred to directly so no pronouns, same w cafe remix

proper iris
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Yeah!

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And how hard is it to swap boy/girl to kid, anyway

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For when they need to refer to us indirectly

proven geyser
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child pronouns are "little fuck"

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"that bastard"

proper iris
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I prefer the Team Rocket version:
"Twerp"

proven geyser
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TWERP IS GENDER NEUTRA;

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also james literally exists

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i know it started as a joke but it's kinda simmered into just being james' thing

proper iris
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Those two are queer icons.

proven geyser
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REAL

proper iris
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Goals

proven geyser
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idk why maybe i'm projecting but they're so wlw/mlm solidarity it hurts

proper iris
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Always pictured them as disaster bis

proven geyser
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that also

proper iris
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Likely both

proven geyser
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i also see them in a queerplatonic relationship

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not dating but closer than friends and not quite siblings

proper iris
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I think in the manga they ended up together

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Which does not make them any less queer. Bi people are bi even if with someone of another gender

proven geyser
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REAL AND TRUE!!

proven geyser
proper iris
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But Queerplaronic Team Rocket is also a great concept

cloud quartz
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Interesting

proper iris
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Meowth is the token straight friend. Who just so happens to also be a cat.

proper iris
proven geyser
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god the leaks r gonna be polluting the server for at least a week huh

proper iris
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Or more

proven geyser
proper iris
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Someone gotta make a thread or something

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So we can point people towards it

proven geyser
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unfortunately ive done enough srs that fennekin no longer gets a name, but i'm still gonna be my guy bc its faster than my dude

proper iris
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Can rename later anyway

proven geyser
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real and true

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cant fix it if i accidentally pick one of the god awful nicknames tho

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"um, my guy..." -tierno

proper iris
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Vs seeker my beloved

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Being able to train against trainers I know the lineups of

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It makes my life so much easier

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Peach is now a probopass. Hopefully that means this team will start being able to do something

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Other than guzzling potions, that is

proper iris
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... I really, really gotta figure out how to firm up this power switch on the ds

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Any little nudge and this turns off

versed parrot
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Not sure if it's been posted yet but from what I can tell some of the most accurately filled info on the leaks of what the Sinjoh ruins symbol means

proven geyser
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it has, and is very suspect because a lot of things are either missing, have no equivalent, or make little sense

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my personal thoughts is that it's an early try at the pokemon mythos before it stopped being connected

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that's it

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as of unova, but especially as of kalos, the legendary connections have ceased almost entirely, and this wheel is just a relic of when they tried to keep things connected, and before they finished all the sinnoh mythicals and legendaries

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tbh im sick of seeing this stupid summoning wheel

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tho in my annoyance on seeing it constantly, i didn't quite process the full statement, and i do agree it's a graphic for the concept of the ruins wheel's signifigance, but has since been scrapped

cloud quartz
upper glen
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Why were these taken from us?

proven geyser
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i think the eyes were too tom nook on zig

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and spheal is better as an orb

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nothing was lost with pinguin imo

cloud quartz
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Some more leaks.

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Of beta stuff

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Some of those gen 3 mon look similar but a lot I don't recognize.

fringe flower
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The yellow grinning thing feels like it fits in Mario and Luigi superstar saga

rugged parcel
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its interesting how the beta scraggy evolvede into grovyle

cloud quartz
versed parrot
proper iris
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Guess who completely forgot Fantina was a ghost gym leader and was convinced she was a psychic type

versed parrot
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Oh yeah

proper iris
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Time to go reorganize the team and hope no one dies with the gym trainers

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Or to go to sleep bc frustrated.
Either is a good option

proven geyser
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tbf fantina is giving psychic

proper iris
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She definitely is

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And as much as I love designs that break the mold

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This is a reminder of why there is a mold at all

proven geyser
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at this point i'm sring for good nature(timid or modest on fennekin) plus good predicted ivs(can be weighed by a checker on serebii based on current stats plus characteristic)

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if i do get the shiny that's a happy accident

unkempt egret
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doesn't help that in plat you're really cut for anti-ghost options

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since I think umbreon doesn't actually get STAB at that point so it's mostly just throwing normals at her and hoping for the best

proven geyser
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special split exists by then, ye?

simple quartz
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Yeah

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Umbreon's problem isn't really stats tho

unkempt egret
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in gen 4 yea

proven geyser
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i was checking defenses

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SE isn't the issue if your options are nil, staraptor line is physical, and magius base phys defense is aids

unkempt egret
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yea the first dark STAB you get is bite at level 29... on eevee

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...and fantina caps at 26

proven geyser
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a STAB flying hit could do it

unkempt egret
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you can go flash and debuff your way to victory by sending out something that resists grass afterwards though togetic can do that too

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also yea something like 65/65 for physical defense

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the best it can do is hit you with confuse ray psybeam

proven geyser
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anything with physical STAB and good special defense, plus persim or lum berry item should help

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this thing is the OG flutter mane, bro literally had the same spread but more minmaxxed

unkempt egret
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I think when I was doing plat I flash debuff'ed to victory with togetic lol

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I wouldn't say more min-maxed, it's the third step of evolution but just exists on its own

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(65/85, 65/105, 65/135)

proven geyser
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very true tbh

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magius' lower stats are only 60 across, actually

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special and speed are all 105

unkempt egret
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60 that's what it was

proven geyser
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so it can't tank physical for shit

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it dies in a crit stab

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probably, anyway

unkempt egret
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oh huh flutter's actually is lower at 55 on HP/physicals

proven geyser
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more minmaxxed

unkempt egret
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probably because the BST would be like 600 if it was still 60

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I was gonna say "imagine if it was 60/130" but then I remember jolteon and crobat making me think that 130 is a way more common speed stat than it actually is

proven geyser
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what eeveelutions do to a mf

unkempt egret
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Jolteon, Aerodactyl, crobat, Eiscue (faceless), mega gengar, Mewtwo/mega mew X, tapu koko, Eternatus (both forms), and spectrier is the full list of 130's

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I'd almost say it's more crobat than jolt but lol

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so until gen 6 literally just a pool of four mons

proven geyser
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but anyway, i think the bulky threat on fantina is her duskull, with 90/90

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or it would be

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if the base hp wasnt 20

unkempt egret
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tanky but the worst it can do to you is probably just burn ya with WoW

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...and I guess pursuit if you brought a psychic type in for some reason

proven geyser
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so, her damage is mainly special

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with 2/3 of her team being weak to phys attacks

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haunter is not writing home with 45/55 tbh

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so you need physical attackers not weak to their moves, at least neutral, and with a fair special defense stat

proven geyser
fringe flower
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|| it's surprising that HGSS had a cut music track that's possibly used for diving ||

proven geyser
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probopass actually works nicely

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as your special tank, anyhow

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i dont even have to look this up tbh, i was looking for special tanks in pokerogue and probopass came up as one of the best mons, excluding gimmicks and legends

young cedar
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She looks way too ditzy

proven geyser
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they... didn't do it

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in the end

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im getting sick of sring so i'll take this estimated iv spread and the modest nature and go

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shauna running after me going MY GUY, WAIT

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you fool...my MINIMUM DEF IV IS 20

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ooo plus 1 def ev thank u

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awyhabmsabdclsdc i lov the moms rhyhorn

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hes so fucking cute

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oh my god i get speed evs for everything in first route except scatterbug

proven geyser
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calem: im gonna show u how to catch
my brother in bear i ave a full team

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oh THERES the bird

woven coyote
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"My name is Fiddleford Hadron McGucket, and I wish to unsee what I have seen."

woven coyote
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Can someone send me Uxie to erase my bad memory of that leak?

graceful osprey
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I want a mega dugtrio

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Just make it 9 digglet

proud igloo
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For the Spheal and Penguin pin Pokémon I have a theory

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We had a lot of duos introduced in Gen 3, probably because of Double Battles being a thing

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Plusle and Minun, Volbeat and Illumise, Zangoose and Seviper and finally Solrock and Lunatone. You could even argue Mawile and Sableye are one as well.

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I think Spheal and the Penguin Pin was supposed to be another one.

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Spheal was never meant to evolve, it was gonna stay like that and be available in one version and the Penguin Pin be available in another version.

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Both would be found in Shoal Cave

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Don’t ask me which version because I have no idea

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Probably whoever is first in the Dex entires.

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That’s how it worked with the others

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But then they scrapped the Penguin Pokemon, kept Spheal and made it an evolution line.

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So Sealeo and Walrein was never meant to exist

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The Glacia fight would have been SO MUCH different if that was the case.

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And then Penguin Pin got reused for Eiscue many generations later.

cloud quartz
cloud quartz
proud igloo
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That just sounds like B/W's low Health music in 3DS soundtrack

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Ands that would be more fitting for the Mewtwo fight in X/Y and the Legendary birds

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As basically the 8bit stuff is not there.

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Speaking of Kalos we found a map with Southern Kalos fully mapped out in it

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What do you think about Bergmite being a 3 Stage line rather then 2 stage?

radiant leaf
graceful flame
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but yah no thats been cannon sence like red and blue

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on gbc

amber obsidian
graceful flame
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im boring and also like water starters

amber obsidian
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honestly i almost never pick a starter because of its type

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Only exceptions to this are Bulbasaur and Sprigatito

graceful flame
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i just like the water ones so thats almost always why i chose them
charzard is boring
venasaur is meh
so it leaves blastoize so water it was

untold hill
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FINALLY I KILLED THE GODDAMN CHICK

amber obsidian
graceful flame
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its dumb he hasnt been turned into a dragon fire type xD

amber obsidian
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Also the reason i pick bulbasaur for his typing is because it steamrolls the first half of kanto

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AND he's cute

radiant leaf
amber obsidian
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Half to say though despite how much I think sprigatito is the best gen 9 starter i think picking it because of its type was the worst decision i could've made

radiant leaf
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I liked sprig, its evo line is way better looking than fuecoco

graceful flame
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mega is TARABLE it drives most pokemon mad brakes them aaprt or hurts them and its temp

radiant leaf
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Only in lore for the first part

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Temp is true gameplay wise

amber obsidian
radiant leaf
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Also the reason charizard cant be a dragon type is cis fire dragon isnt weak to water

amber obsidian
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it would also be comically broken

proud igloo
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It would be as someone tested it.

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They gave Charizard the Fire/Dragon type in Gen 1 and it literally went on a rampage throughout the game.

radiant leaf
graceful flame
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yah but he hasnt been a starter for like 20 years

radiant leaf
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Charizard ahs never been fire dragon except its x mega

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Also the only dragon move in gen 1 was dragon rage

wraith musk
wraith musk
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too bad the only one

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dragonite

proud igloo
wraith musk
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was 4x weak to blizzard

proud igloo
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Here's the video in question

wraith musk
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eq runs rampant

proud igloo
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Granted they had Charizard at the start but still...

wraith musk
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Rock weakness

wraith musk
still dust
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This fusion is so adorable lol

wraith musk
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fire didn't resist Ice in gen 1

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ITS STILL WEAK TO BLIZZARD

radiant leaf
radiant leaf
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That feels

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wrong

wraith musk
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charizard and moltres were both weak to ice in RBY

graceful flame
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facts

proven geyser
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worst early pick, weak to ice

wraith musk
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yes

proven geyser
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zard catching Ls

wraith musk
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lmao

radiant leaf
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Oh damn you right

proven geyser
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bulba supremacy

radiant leaf
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^

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Bulbasaur is the best starter for a non yellow playthrough

proud igloo
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I don't even like Charizard anyway

wraith musk
untold hill
wraith musk
# wraith musk

when your code is held together by cheesestrings and dreams

proud igloo
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Its pandered to way too much by Game Freak

wraith musk
proud igloo
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Often at the expense of the other Kanto starters

wraith musk
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I love blastoise

radiant leaf
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2 megas

wraith musk
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turtle with guns

untold hill
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canons are op

wraith musk
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yup

amber obsidian
wraith musk
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venusaur is a frog

radiant leaf
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Got a gmax before the other 2 as well

untold hill
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no, it's a dinosaur

wraith musk
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that got a flower planted in its spine

wraith musk
proud igloo
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Bulbasaur is only good in Gen 1 due to the Leech Seed/Toxic glitch that just murders everything not poison typed.

untold hill
wraith musk
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saur is just there

untold hill
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I just assume saur

wraith musk
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it's a frog

untold hill
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is dinosaur

wraith musk
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idk why it has saur

radiant leaf
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Venusaur and Blastoise need DLC to get their gmaxs- actually to even be added to swsh

proven geyser
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zard is just so overrated
you have tutel and toad

untold hill
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SAUR

wraith musk
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FREG

radiant leaf
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Its based on a frog dinosaur

wraith musk
untold hill
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pika?

proud igloo
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So if the rumors of Gen 10 have more Kanto Pandering are in it, I'm just dreading what Charizard is gonna be given.

proud igloo
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And make sure I have a rock type for spite.

wraith musk
untold hill
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damn, I need those X stones

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and Z stones

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and Y stones

wraith musk
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mega mewtwo and charziard z have both the stats from y and x combined !

amber obsidian
wraith musk
untold hill
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cmon gamefreak, gimme mewtwo and charizard Z heehee

wraith musk
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*and we love all our fans

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every last one of them

wraith musk
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it's so balanced

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stats from both y and x combined for mewtwo z and charizard z !

untold hill
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yeah, it is indeed

wraith musk
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a 1268 but for charizard x

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and 1560 for mewtwo x !

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it's perfect !

untold hill
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💀

wraith musk
untold hill
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I was thinking those are years at first 💀

amber obsidian
wraith musk
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those are the base stats !

untold hill
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damn

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that's good

wraith musk
amber obsidian
wraith musk
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you made Incinroar pt 2 Despair

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but girl

amber obsidian
wraith musk
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don't do that

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kick the espurs

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casually blows a city block

amber obsidian
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Also another fun thing: I haven't beat pokemon scarlet yet

wraith musk
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fun fact:my first pokemon game was gen 1 red (Japanese but translated)

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I made sure to get it frm the beginning

untold hill
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fun thing

wraith musk
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I crashed 5 times absolutely randomly

untold hill
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I haven't even played any game after gen 7

amber obsidian
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For whatever reason it was close to impossible for me to get into the game

wraith musk
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I also found a mewtwo instead of missingno

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at lvl 126

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and a lvl 0 missing no

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corrupted my game 2 times

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had to use save states to get out

amber obsidian
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It didn't help that i had the hardest possible time teambuilding for scarlet.

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To the point that i still don't know what pokemon i want to use for my playthrough

cedar breach
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Some of those leaks Pokemon sprites were low-key fire

proud igloo
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Here’s my question to you all. We know the leaker has access to PLZA, and info on Gen 10 and Synapse.

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They also said they won’t release all of it until after those games come out

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Is that decision because they don’t want TPC going full nuclear on them or because they would recieve hell from the community? Or is it both?

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Because the hack was big and personal info is leaked, they are ALREADY in deep shit legalwise. I just can’t understand the morals of the leaker/hacker.

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I know people genuinely don’t care if past stuff is leaked, but a lot of people will get mad if future stuff gets leaked.

proven geyser
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probably released codenames and some future projects as a litmus test

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got backlash upon leaking personal info(rightfully), and is treading carefully bc they're probably already looking into the guy, no need to give more of a reason to start a manhunt

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also back on shit thta isnt whack
man XY really wants tht speed ev maxed huh

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route 1 has everything giving speed(save scatterbug giving defense, and caterpie giving hp in Y)

unkempt egret
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XY wants your everything maxed if super training is on the table lol

proven geyser
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kakuna/metapod give 2 defense, scaterbug gives 1, and again caterpie hp in Y

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everything else gives speed

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pikachu gives you 2

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THERE IS NO WAY TO TRAIN SPECIAL ATTACK YET AAAAAAA

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route 3 adds MORE HP and burmy gives sp def JDJSNSNKXJSBS

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fuck sorry shauna i need to open hyper training rq

unkempt egret
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just remember to have an EV fall mon open levels 2 and 3 (for when you get x2 bags)

proven geyser
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gonna have to pick something to have as a second, i dont have a pc yet so back to route 2 to train whatever's in my party

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i do have 2 pickup mons

brisk hedge
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Bro it’s X and Y, you don’t need to worry about EVs

proven geyser
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shut

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let me get the best fox

brisk hedge
proven geyser
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at some point while SRing for shiny i decided that if i got a beneficial nature AND good predicted IVs i would just take it

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my minimum expected hp is 26 bc i started with 20 hp shsnnsbndjxb

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im sure the atk is low end, scratch does fuckall and im not sure modest did it that dirty

proud igloo
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Yeah I think it makes sense, as personal info is a big no-no

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Like be made at Game Freak and Nintendo all you want, but those decisions are made from up top, normal employees shouldn’t have to suffer for what their bosses have done

proven geyser
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based on how my hp stat has progressed, supposedly i have 31 hp IV

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speed is mid, but that just tells me i really need to work on it to offset that

proper iris
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Just very skewed priorities too

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Only partly related, y'all think we'll ever get a way to mod the games to add voices?

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It may theoretically already be possible with the gba romhacks, just gotta make a sound file play along with some text

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And we know that even the GBC games could have voice clips... Although that'd be ear-bleeding

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If Pikachu's voice in Yellow is anything to go by

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... And Dusty is out of commission for the next gym. Damn.

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How the hell am I meant to beat Fantina with these

unkempt egret
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she caps at 26 so some levels can help

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it's risky but flash debuffing mismagius with togetic and going from there might help

proper iris
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Ooooh that may be a good strategy

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Plus since this isn't a traditional nuzlocke it just might be worth the risk

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But I gotta figure out what's the next major battle after her so I'm not left high and dry if I do need Cherub for it....

unkempt egret
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nontraditional? how so?

proper iris
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Yeah, instead of KO=Death, KO= benched until after the next major story fight

unkempt egret
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ah

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I forget if there's a Barry fight before or after fantina

proper iris
#

They're all healing from their wounds

unkempt egret
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I know theres one there in DPBDSP but I forget about plat

proper iris
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Also I don't remember if there's any round areas in sinnoh

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Anywhere I can just put a weight on a button and let the character run in circles

proud igloo
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Togetic is a very good debuffer

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Yawn, Flash, Sweet Kiss and Charm can mess many Pokémon up

proper iris
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Bc if there's a round area like that, will let the game run to get some friendship

unkempt egret
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sweet kiss may be lucksy but the others yea

proud igloo
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Maybe replace Sweet Kiss with a attacking move

proper iris
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Probably a good idea

proud igloo
#

Metronome is a big no due to RNG

proper iris
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RNG in this game hates me

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And hates everyone who ever played it

proud igloo
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But Ancientpower and Magical Leaf are decent

proper iris
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So that's a given

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Magical leaf may work

proud igloo
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And if you keep it alive by the time you hit Iron Island you can get a Shiny Stone and Togekiss.

proper iris
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Hopefully that'll be doable

proud igloo
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Have you got the Happiny Egg?

unkempt egret
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i dont trust metronome in any way regardless of which side is using it

proud igloo
#

Blissey is phenomenal in Nuzlockes

proper iris
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Not really

proud igloo
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As yes it dies to a physical move but it’s such a special wall that special attacks might not exist

proper iris
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I'm just pre Fantina, got the togepi egg

proud igloo
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Okay what about Wayward Cave?

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You can get to the bottom in Platinum

proper iris
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I gotta go there and pray i find a gible

proud igloo
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And depending on your dupes cause that means Gible

proper iris
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I do have a dupes clause but that'll depend on luck still

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Bc bronzor is also a possibility

proud igloo
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You can get Bronzor in the grass outside of Wayward cave

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Encounters are Geodude, Zubat, Onix, Bronzor and Gible

proper iris
#

I actually had gone there yesterday and got dismayed bc bronzor, but for once, my oversensitive on/off switch was on my side

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I already got something on the grass outside, I think

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Can't remember what

proud igloo
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Check the PC if you caught it

proper iris
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I know I have no bronzor in my team or pc

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So that's gonna be a 50/50

proud igloo
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Geodude and Zubat are everywhere

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So you clearly got those

proper iris
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Yep

proud igloo
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That just leaves Onix

proper iris
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Got onix

proud igloo
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Thus it’s only Bronzor or Gible

proven geyser
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probopass is an excellent special wall at this point in time

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it has a very high spdef relative to the fact it's not even remotely a special pokemon

proud igloo
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Is it worth risking Wayward Cave for a Gible if Bronzor isn’t ruled out.

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I meaning Bronzong is a good wall.

unkempt egret
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it also still resists ghost and dark at this point in the series

proud igloo
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But you have Probopass

proper iris
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Yep but she can't do much more other than that

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She has no moves that do much of anything

proud igloo
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Walls are good in Nuzlockes because they can help with pivoting.

proven geyser
#

she can hard swap, and are rocks an option? or does levitate on everything negate that

proper iris
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No use stalling if there's nothing to do with the staller

proud igloo
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They can soak up damage and drain the foe’s pp.

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Levitate ignores entry hazards

proper iris
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PP depletion is a waiting game a bit too risky for me

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And she got Sturdy

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Not Levitate

proud igloo
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We are talking about Fantina’s team

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I think

proper iris
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So that is out the window

proven geyser
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no, fantinas team has levitate

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which is why rocks doesnt work

proud igloo
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Plus Sturdy is shit pre Gen 5

proper iris
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No really what do I do with this

proven geyser
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not that the only OHKO move her mons would have is destiny bond or anything

proud igloo
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Unfortunately Protect isn’t an option until post Fantina.

proper iris
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Only creature in my team that has protect is currently healing

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So can't be used in this fight

proven geyser
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a special wall is a start thankfully

proud igloo
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And plus you need leftovers for full stall strats

proven geyser
#

even if peach cant do much, you can built strategies from hard pivot behavior

proud igloo
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This is why Gible if caught can be handy

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As it will evolve into Gabite before the level cap

proper iris
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Even if not a true stall strat

proud igloo
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And Gabite is very handy against Fantina.

proper iris
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It'd work

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To wayward cave we go

proud igloo
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And hope no Bronzor

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I mean Bronzong isn’t bad but it’s just…

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Like if Probopass is unavailable it’s a good replacement

proper iris
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It's bronzong vs a pseudo

proven geyser
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gabite better lmao

proper iris
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Exactly

proven geyser
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tbh garchomp is just good period, bro was OU until sv

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and that wasnt his fault, we can blame power creep for that

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i follow stunfisk reddit and everyone went nuts

proper iris
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...........

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Bronzor.

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......................

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I closed the DS in rage so hard it turned off.

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Now i don't know if I take that as a second chance or consider it a failed catch

proud igloo
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I would consider it failed

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But then again this isn’t a traditional Nuzlocke

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If it was I would say failed catch

proven geyser
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game failure vs user error, retry

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if the game shuts off unintentionally then i wouldn't count it failed, since it's not a deliberate sabotage of the encounter, nor an unintended consequence of it or your Pokemon's attack

proper iris
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Fair

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I value my sanity enough to want that gible so

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Trying again

proud igloo
#

Anyway I’m looking at the leaks again and it seems there’s a fully modelled Gen 5 Maxie sprite.

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Which is interesting

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Theory is maybe there was a PWT tier for Evil Teams

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So Maxie and Archie would have been there, then Giovanni and Archer, then Cyrus and maybe N could have shown up as well?

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Ghetsis wouldn’t have done so buttt…

proper iris
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Would've been fun

proud igloo
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I would be more interested in the music.

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At least the lack of psychic Pokemon means I could not do the Zoroark cheese on those battles

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But I think the real reason is team wise there isn’t much variety.

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Evil teams tend to use the same Pokémon

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Plus lore wise how could you convince them to come?

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I know Archie and Maxie reform at the end of the Hoenn games

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And Giovanni does soul searching

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But Archer is a enigma, Cyrus is trapped in the Distortion World for all of eternity and while N comes back in BW2, Ghetsis turns into a lunatic

proven geyser
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serebii did not mention the trade of bunnelby for farfetch'd in santalune

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this bitch is jolly

proud igloo
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Probably because most people don’t do it

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You can get both Pokémon in the wild at that point

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I think

proven geyser
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it's alert to sounds and apparently the calc hates something about it

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the speed or everything else is wrong

proper iris
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.... Bronzor again.

proven geyser
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Ohhhh quacklin has a perfect speed IV

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well, it's just fate then

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we take what we get ig

proud igloo
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Yep better suck it up.

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Bronzong isn’t bad anyway

proper iris
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I'm not happy about this but it is what it is

proud igloo
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That’s Nuzlockes you don’t get to choose what you get

proper iris
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Unfortunately true

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But part of the fun too

proud igloo
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Besides now you have two walls for Fantina as while it won’t evolve by then it can help Peach soak up the damage.

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Assuming you catch it

proper iris
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Now to not ko the little guy

proven geyser
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make sure it doesnt learn take down

proper iris
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Recoil moves are a nope anyway

proven geyser
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,,,at the level it is right now

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it will kill itself

proud igloo
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Self-Destruct and Explosion could be handy for Hail Mary strats

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I know Bronzor doesn’t learn them but could be useful on Pokémon who do

proper iris
#

Honestly I'd rather not.

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Usually pokemon who learn those moves can have better plan B moves

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That don't kill them

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ARE YOU KIDDING ME

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IT CRASHED AGAIN

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At least I think I saved after getting the bronzor

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Ok, I did, it's listed as caught in the dex

proud igloo
#

A conversation between Game Freak and the anime staff has been leaked.

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Basically they aren’t happy Horizons has forgone a lot of Gen 9 stuff and they are trying to not take too many away from Gen 10

#

Basically what this confirms is the Gen 10 region is gonna be a set of islands we travel between ala Alola.

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This could confirm Greece

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But if we are going outside Europe we could equally have a Indonesia like region

proper iris
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Or any other archipelago.

#

Who knows, maybe it's gonna be the Caribbean.

proud igloo
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If the open world is there it will literally be Wind Waker all over again

#

I will bet a sizeable money if that happens, someone will play Great Sea music

proper iris
#

I had forgotten how annoying berries were pre-HGSS

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WHY ARE ALL THE FIELDS SCATTERED

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Also who do i need to bribe to get a pomeg or tamato

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Plz i just need a crobat

warm rose
#

FINALLY GOT MY MEW

proper iris
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Hell yeah!!!

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Also fellow Team Mystic member :D

brisk hedge
proper iris
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Bro if anyone ever did that I'd want pics, it'd be hilarious

ruby marlin
#

I want to watch all the leaks but there so much im unsure of where to start

proper iris
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You'll see it all

ruby marlin
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Oh okay

proud igloo
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Btw I have a theory that the Gen 10 region could be one of the motives why Nintendo decided to sue Pal World.

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Because if the region is an archipelago which Pal World is also an archipelago they could have decided to go after them to prevent Pal World from stealing sales.

proper iris
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That makes no sense

ruby marlin
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Honestly the trial does more marketing to pal world then anything

proper iris
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Also the game genres are entirely different.

proud igloo
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And I also think many people are buying Pal World stuff out of spite

proper iris
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So gameplay aspects aren't gonna be that meaningful in this

ruby marlin
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Also funfact a pal world mobile clone appeared

proud igloo
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More money for Pocketpair = better they can fight the legal battles.

#

I know and I hate these mobile clones. YouTube has ads for Pokémon clones all the time and I wish I can report them.

proper iris
#

The problem is if Nintendo wants to go with this as long as possible

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Bc that's a strategy they can pull

proud igloo
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Which is why people are buying as much stuff as possible.

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To stop the war of attrition that people are foreseeing.

proper iris
#

Usually in these kinds of cases, it's likely they'll settle

proud igloo
#

I wouldn’t even be surprised if the lawsuit was a motive for the hack.

proper iris
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Bc we're talking a billionaire company

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It's usually just plain impossible to beat them.

proud igloo
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Because this would be a headache for the legal team.

proper iris
#

Could be

proud igloo
#

I don’t know how big Nintendo’s legal department is but dealing with a patent infringement case and a major data breach at the same time is a logistical nightmare.

ruby marlin
#

Also guys what do we know about z-a from the leaks?

proper iris
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Way huger than you and I can imagine

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Not much, plus let's keep it spoilered.

#

Not everyone wants to know

proud igloo
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||Zygarde and Zercora are getting Megas||

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||Stunfisk is in the game ||

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Spoilering it so you don’t see it if you don’t want to

proper iris
#

But yeah. Nintendo is still going after people all the while this stuff happens

ruby marlin
proper iris
#

So they got enough people in the legal team to go for multiple cases at once

proud igloo
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||Don’t ask me I think it’s because the leaker found a full odds shiny Stunfisk during their Playthrough of ZA and they wanted to brag about it.||

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||And they also confirmed shiny sound from PLA is back.||

ruby marlin
proud igloo
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||It was also due to come out in 2024 but got pushed back. Why we don’t know.||

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||And the PC port the leaker has the main story complete and is just missing 55% of its sidequests, and has tons of lag and glitches due to being unfinished.||

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But aside from that, they are not saying much due to the community backlash if they do so and plan to only leak it when PLZA comes out.

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Assuming of course the Greninjas don’t get them before then.

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||But my main question is is both normal and Galarian Stunfisk in the game?||

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||In addition the anime conversation also mentions Mega Zygarde so that’s double confirmation it’s in the game.||

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||After all Alola forms are in PLA||

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But even if they have multiple legal teams that’s two major cases.

proper iris
#

Making poffins isn't as fun as I remembered.
Maybe it's because there's no one to make them with.

proud igloo
#

Sending a DMCA to a rando on the internet doesn’t take much.

#

Especially if they outsource it to AI

#

Not to mention it was someone high up Game Freak who got phished.

unkempt egret
#

yea with AI it's basically like trying to fight the ocean for getting someone wet

proper iris
#

These older games feel sadder now they're old and no longer are played as much and have no more connectivity anymore.

unkempt egret
#

(tbh with all of the AI we should really as a society start pushing to move important stuff back to physical mediums)

proper iris
#

Not like I ever had many people to play them with anyhow

proud igloo
#

So that’s gonna be a disaster in the company as I suspect it was someone quite important who got duped.

proper iris
#

But still

proud igloo
#

So you are dealing with company fallout, a data breach AND a patent infringement case.

#

The legal teams might be good but even all of that is too much for them.

#

And cracks will start to show.

proper iris
#

You underestimate the power of billions of dollars, I'd say.

#

I hope you're right, don't get me wrong

#

I'm just not as hopeful

#

Knocking Nintendo down a peg could be great

proud igloo
#

Besides depending when the ninjas close in I could see the leaker just leaking all the future projects onto the Internet out of spite.

#

Sure it will doom them to a severe sentence.

proper iris
#

And that's assuming it's one leaker.

proud igloo
#

But that could hurt the sales.

unkempt egret
#

yea you all underestimate how powerful the Cycle of Money is when it has to jump to sustain itself

proper iris
#

Could well be multiple people but one in front

#

I don't doubt we'll get all the info these leakers got bc

#

Well, people are wild

#

But I'm not so sure it'll be that big an issue for the company in the long term

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Or even the medium term

proud igloo
#

I know it won’t hurt the Japanese sales.

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As I’m sure most Japanese players are boycotting the sites where the leaks are going

proper iris
#

It won't hurt almost any sales.

proud igloo
#

As Japanese people HATE this sort of stuff.

proper iris
#

Most people aren't really aware of what's going on

#

Most fans aren't aware

#

Bc we here are an exception

#

The internet part of the fandom is the exception

#

Most fans are really casual

unkempt egret
#

also yea people underestimate both A. the silent majority, and B, the home market of japan

proper iris
#

At most these casual fans will get like, a news article or a YouTube video on it

unkempt egret
#

who for the most part have been MUCH more approving of the changes to the series since gen 6 than the online US has been

proper iris
#

And that's about it.

proud igloo
#

You could chalk that up to cultural reasons though

#

Japan is a extremely conformist country

proper iris
#

But also

unkempt egret
#

which makes sense as they're the main focuses, not us. if we weren't paying then it'd be fair to call us parasites lol

proper iris
#

Remember

#

It's not just the US

#

This is a worldwide franchise

#

The Americans may complain, but there's a ton of other countries where this franchise is big

unkempt egret
#

ostensibly anyway, it still has a japanese heart as much as it's tried its best to downplay that since gen 3

proper iris
#

Countries with even more people and more opinions

unkempt egret
#

hence why i said "online US" and not "the west"

proper iris
#

Yep

unkempt egret
#

since I think the US is really the only one complaining here lol

#

and even then, only some of those within a specific age range that's much above the target audience of 5-12

proper iris
#

still waiting for the day "Portuguese" is a language we can pick in the games. Come on, Brazil is one of the biggest markets they have.

unkempt egret
#

but we wanna make it our issue so of course we try to make a stink about it

#

then complain when every other part of the franchise rightfully shuts us out of influence for it

proper iris
#

America being America. No offense to y'all as individuals, but full offense to the mass that does that.

unkempt egret
#

I wouldn't even say "america" because I'm sure canada, mexico, and central/south america are better with that

#

mostly just the US and its turbo aggressive "all about me" culture

proper iris
#

Definitely

unkempt egret
#

but this is getting a bit off topic

proper iris
#

Here in south America we'd likely meme about it rather than complain bc that's how we roll.

#

Anyway.
In other news.
Still angry at the berries in Platinum

unkempt egret
#

basically long story short for them, nothing's gonna change with the franchise and instead of complaining I'd advise maybe looking for something more attuned to your tastes

proper iris
#

I JUST NEED ONE FRIENDSHIP RAISING BERRY

unkempt egret
#

also yea what gen did berries become in one place?

proper iris
#

Hgss

unkempt egret
#

I think it was 6's berry fields but getting new berries there is a bit of a pain

proper iris
#

You carried them with you in your bag

unkempt egret
#

HGSS i think made it a key item yea

proper iris
#

Then there was dream world

#

(Rip our berry fields)

unkempt egret
#

gen 7 has pelago, gen 8 makes them luck-based tree drops and gen 9 just.. has them?

proper iris
#

I'm gonna say gen 6 is probably my favorite

unkempt egret
#

yea the berry mutations

proper iris
#

The berry crossing mechanic was fun

#

A lot of work, but fun

unkempt egret
#

currently in sun and I'm like "huh I can just plonk 12 leppas just like that"

proven geyser
#

theyre so based tbh

#

but also it's mainly for dyes

unkempt egret
#

sadly I am limited to green and red atm

#

I recall it being a lot of online work to get the colors from the opposite version

proven geyser
#

i recall planting a lot for a specific color, but i cant recall which

unkempt egret
#

since sun generally locked you to warm colors while moon generally locked you to cold colors

proven geyser
#

i think if you have the berries you can do whatever, yeah? the online is just active availability, so you can only get warm colors in sun without berries

unkempt egret
#

right if you have the facilities you can still do it

proven geyser
#

my selection was only warm but i saw the option for purples and blues in dyes

proper iris
#

Pretendo network

#

That's all.

#

If you're using a jailbroken 3ds, you can still get them online

#

...As long as someone is online

#

That is the hard part

proven geyser
#

is pretendo not jailbreaking or is this post jailbreak?

proper iris
#

Pretendo is post jailbreak

proven geyser
#

im assuming the guy with the profile that crashes your system has already made camp in the gts in that case

proper iris
#

You can still access regular Nintendo network with jailbreak (where it exists, eg: Bank)

proven geyser
#

ye! it's why I'm trying to mod my 3ds, i have so much cool shit on oruby and want to replay, but this is old ass event shit

unkempt egret
#

yea I remember having to do that to get a Phione in gen 5

#

since I exported all of mine out of gens 4/5

proper iris
#

I wonder if there's some Action Replay type app for the jailbroken 3ds. Probably yes.

proven geyser
#

i cannot in good conscience throw away all of the mythicals and HA unova starters

proper iris
#

Then don't.

#

Don't throw them away

proven geyser
#

well yeah no shit

proper iris
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I'm waiting for the switch 2 to come out so I can get a switch cheaply enough to get a gen 7 game to send my old teams to

wraith musk
proven geyser
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alright smartass

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lmao

wraith musk
proper iris
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I may be broke but I want my team to go with me to new games

wraith musk
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just worked it off in an hour

proper iris
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"New" games

unkempt egret
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I remember seeing a used copy of pokemon sun for something like 15-20$ in december of 2019 (so right after swish came out) but I doubt that's still the case rofl

proper iris
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Oh wait

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I said 7

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I mean 8

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I do have Sun

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But i don't have the switch titles

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Well, at least not out of an emulator

proven geyser
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yknow what, fuck fletchling. my bird is farfetched

proper iris
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Stick boye

proven geyser
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I don't know any way to get gale wings early game or without gts, so I can't justify a second fire type

proper iris
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... i got so distracted talking here i have no clue where I am

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I don't recognize this route

proven geyser
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exit the load gate and go back

proper iris
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Oh OK it's route 211

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I still don't know how to navigate it

proven geyser
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LMAO

proper iris
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But eterna is close so

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Just gotta find my way

proven geyser
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all of kalos early routes are literally just straight lines

proper iris
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Yup

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But the pretty scenery mitigates that

proven geyser
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showin off that famcy 3d render

proper iris
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I still remember being amazed by it back in the day

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First mainline pokemon games to be all 3d

proven geyser
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i just loved the clothes

proper iris
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That too

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I still miss those when I'm playing older games

proven geyser
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something felt off abt playing a girl but thats bc i didnt realize why atm

proper iris
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Can relate

proven geyser
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clothes were a great distraction

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helps significantly that the NPC friends call me "my guy"

proper iris
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...Aaaand the ds crashed

proven geyser
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now it feels like everyone is like "her pronouns are he/him!!" which is more comfortable ironically

proper iris
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This old thing isn't as it once was

proper iris
proven geyser
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EXACTLLLLY

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plus they JUST met me and i arrived with long hair and a dress so

proper iris
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Understandable confusion

wraith musk
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Amana as eoa eos.enfoenro

unkempt egret
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then route 12 be like "how do you steer this thiiiing"

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"...oh that's all of the trainers skipped thanks skiddo!"

wraith musk
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Skiddo ?

proper iris
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Yep

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Skiddo~

graceful osprey
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Was gogoat ever used

unkempt egret
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context: you can skip the fightable trainers on route 12 by using the ridable overworld skiddo but it's one way only

proper iris
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Yes

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Lumiose transport

graceful osprey
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Ah

unkempt egret
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meaning that if you wanna go back you have to fight those trainers

graceful osprey
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I am convinced the only one dumb enough to use Gogoat on their team is Geeta

proper iris
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My best friend had a silly song he'd sing whenever he got on a Gogoat in Lumiose

unkempt egret
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I mean A. ramos, and B. it's not that bad of a mon

graceful osprey
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I swear for the longest time I remember gogoat being ghost grass

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I dunno why

unkempt egret
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the real challenge in paldea is forming an in-game team that isn't deleted by skeledirge's torch song

graceful osprey
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I jistbdid

proper iris
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...Worth noting we were like, 15, but that silly song was just childish enough to make me happy to this day

graceful osprey
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Slowbro is probably tanky enough

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If not him clefable

unkempt egret
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does anything have unaware as its non-hidden HA

graceful osprey
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Yes

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I think

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I can check

unkempt egret
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also rika already took the clodsire lol

graceful osprey
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HAHAHAHAH

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DONBOZO

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The bidoof line

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And the woobat line

unkempt egret
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imo the gogoat's fine. avalugg's something that works better for the player than against them and veluza's the one that really needs to be swapped

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espartha is like... whatever

graceful osprey
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Espartha is fast

unkempt egret
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I think people just really get hung up on glimmora ace and kingamb... not-ace

graceful osprey
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Ot gets a pass

sweet crypt
unkempt egret
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espartha would be nice as a non-lead so it could scare somethin out and start lumina crashin

graceful osprey
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Funny how it still gets one shot

sweet crypt
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Upon seeing Kingambit Tera Flying, I had terrible flashbacks

unkempt egret
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I should also note I'm fine with geeta being as she is mostly becase uh

sweet crypt
unkempt egret
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like right after

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also yea like my fighting typed avalugg

graceful osprey
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I feel like people forget toxic debris can be ignored with special moves

proper iris
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... Is it weird if I say Nemona looks like the kind of character kid/teen me would've had a crush on?

sweet crypt
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The main part of the ability

graceful osprey
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Yes really

sweet crypt
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Working on physical moves only

graceful osprey
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People don't read

sweet crypt
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To lay Toxic Spikes

unkempt egret
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I could kinda see but barely

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isn't it contact moves?

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which with like 1 or two exceptions are physical

sweet crypt
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I'm 90% sure it is all physical moves

graceful osprey
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Over half the pokemom community is children

unkempt egret
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hm

graceful osprey
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Who forget and can't read

unkempt egret
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I know grass knot is contact for some reason ROFL

sweet crypt
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I feel like I've definitely had it work on an Earthquake

graceful osprey
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It's just psychical moves

unkempt egret
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or grew up on gen 1 which didn't give you much to read at all lol

graceful osprey
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Gen 9 is 4/10

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To much reading

proper iris
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I grew up with Emerald, but not knowing English

wraith musk
sweet crypt
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I like Gen 9 until I start playing Competitive

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Then, I die

unkempt egret
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I read that as "Gen 4 is 9/10" ROFL

proper iris
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And could play these games fine

unkempt egret
wraith musk
proper iris
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So yeah. Reading is optional

sweet crypt
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Outside of Competitive, Gen 9 is my favourite Gen, followed by Gen 5

graceful osprey
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I don't like comp

sweet crypt
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AKA the 2 worst generations competitively

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That's pretty funny to me

unkempt egret
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mines like uuuh

wraith musk
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:]

graceful osprey
wraith musk
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ribombee made a lot of people say cry kid

sweet crypt
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Ig you could argue Gen 2 is worse

wraith musk
sweet crypt
graceful osprey
unkempt egret
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gens 4-5 and 7 are in high tier, gen 3 and 6, 8, and 9 are mid tier, and gens 1 and 2 are low tier for me

sweet crypt
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I'm sorry that's just some skill issue

wraith musk