sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 12:28 PM

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Very close battle

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So far, the Pokemon giving me the most trouble are Sand Rushers, Chlorophyll mons and Swift Swimmers

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It's tough to stall out 8 turns against a Pokemon far faster than yours with such strong offences

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And I'm not exactly planning around fighting weather teams rn

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 1:04 PM

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the fact u can get a salamence without evolving from sos chaining in usum is crazy ngl

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 1:38 PM

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oh u know what would be hell but the ultimate flex

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shiny sos salamence

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as long as you don't level it above the natural evo level then you have proof it's the SOS salamence

modest portal Oct 13, 2024, 1:52 PM

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E

paper tinsel Oct 13, 2024, 1:53 PM

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E

junior basin Oct 13, 2024, 1:53 PM

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E

violet flint Oct 13, 2024, 2:08 PM

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E

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 2:09 PM

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proven geyser the fact u can get a salamence without evolving from sos chaining in usum is cra...

that's kinda what I meant lol

foggy notch Oct 13, 2024, 3:13 PM

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why are there sunglasses behind him

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should i fight him

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 3:20 PM

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he's guarding them

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if you have a pokemon with a dark move then black glasses is useful

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 4:53 PM

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Finally beat Mars, finally could grab my team from the box, everyone is way too underleveled so it's grinding time

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 4:54 PM

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Why are there so many cofagrigus here

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 4:55 PM

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Cemetery probably

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 4:55 PM

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No I'm in some desert ruins

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It makes sense they are here

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 4:55 PM

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Cemetery probably.

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 4:55 PM

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But why are there so many inanimate cofagrigus

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Am I supposed to like

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Fight them

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I will not give any context

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Uhhh it just omniboosted itself

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Cofagrigus is very cool ngl

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 4:59 PM

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proper iris Finally beat Mars, finally could grab my team from the box, everyone is way too ...

which game

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:09 PM

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naive timber which game

Platinum. Doing a bit of a nuzlocke-lite thing.

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:10 PM

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lol

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:10 PM

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Instead of the death clause, I can't use my fainted pokemon again until after the next major story battle

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:10 PM

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i started platinum a week ago

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but idk forgot about it

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still havent even done the first gym 💀

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:11 PM

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I'm also taking it slow, started this save a bit over a week ago

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Only got six hours of actual gameplay

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But then again, I'm spending a lot of time just sitting around enjoying the soundtrack

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:20 PM

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i speedran emerald and fire red

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with emulation speed

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i can speed platinum if i wanted to do

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but i want to take it slow

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tbh i wish nintendo werent stupid and actually made a remake of platinum except of bdsp

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:21 PM

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Don't wish that

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If they remade Plat instead

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It would've been even worse

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:22 PM

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how come?

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not much pokemon or

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:22 PM

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Everything wrong with bdsp

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But on a better game

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:22 PM

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Honestly I think it'd be less worse bc part of the reason bdsp was so bad was that they took away every QoL thing that was added in Platinum

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But still would likely be a bad remake

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:23 PM

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ig

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i think they are working on a bw remake after legends ZA

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:24 PM

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I wonder if they'll learn from their mistakes

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:24 PM

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Chibi pokemon is just

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No

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:24 PM

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proper iris I wonder if they'll learn from their mistakes

They will but Nintendo won't

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:24 PM

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i think most pokemon games they are working on is just remakes atm

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:24 PM

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I mean. It was chibi for ages and no one batted an eye

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:24 PM

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legends arceus actually felt so boring so did scarlet

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:24 PM

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Nintendo seems to have forgotten that good games take time to make

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They aren't made in 4 or so years

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:25 PM

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Yes but also they cannot slow down at this point bc of how much else depends on the main series

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:25 PM

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No?

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:25 PM

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The anime, merch, spinoffs, TCG, GO...

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:25 PM

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do yall think lets go pikachu/eevee was any good

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:25 PM

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naive timber do yall think lets go pikachu/eevee was any good

Never played it

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:25 PM

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It was, tbh

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:25 PM

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If they took their time

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 PM

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Not great but good

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 PM

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its a good remake

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 PM

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Quite fun

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 PM

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Made a actually genuine good game

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That was polished and felt amazing to play

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 PM

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tbh i actually hope legends za will be good remake

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 PM

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It'd do so well

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 PM

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i mean x and y was pretty good tbh]

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 PM

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naive timber tbh i actually hope legends za will be good remake

Remake?

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 PM

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LGP/E is good for what it is, it feels like GF definitley wanted to make it

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 PM

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quite underrated

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 PM

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graceful osprey Remake?

i think its a remake

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 PM

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It's not

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 PM

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its in the kalos region

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ig

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oh

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:27 PM

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That's like saying bw2 is a remake of bw

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:27 PM

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I don't like it for my own reasons (why can mons flee whenever they waaaant thats not a thing in GO) but I'd say it's about par with FR/LG but both have enough differences to merit it being its own take

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:27 PM

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tbh

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i kinda wish pokemon scarlet sticked with the like 2d vibe tbh

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:27 PM

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LGP/E feel more casual and like a good bridge for GO players to enter the main series

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:27 PM

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pokemon in general feels like it just works better in 2D than 3D

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:27 PM

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idk why 2d pokemon games just give a good relaxation

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:27 PM

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It does work better on 2d

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Then again

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I grew up with gen 5 and eos

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:28 PM

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it's kinda like castlevania where some series just feel more designed to not be in 3D if that makes sense

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:28 PM

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So I'm bias

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:28 PM

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pokemon sword and shield was pretty good 3d games tbh

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:28 PM

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I'm kinda torn on that. I feel some things worked way better on 2d, but 3d does have its merits and is a breath of fresh air

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:28 PM

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Yea but

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:28 PM

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yea I'm fine with gens 8 and 9 but I know I'm in a (western) minority on that

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:28 PM

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not much of a fan of arceus and scarlet and violet tho

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:28 PM

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Legends Za is the urban redevelopment plan

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:29 PM

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I skipped arceus in favor of miitopia which I feel like was a good choice rofl

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:29 PM

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Is will be it's own thong

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How it's actually goes will be another story

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:29 PM

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arceus felt too grindy

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i couldnt be bothered to grind research points

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:29 PM

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being confined to the city the entire fucking game sounds awful

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:30 PM

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I started from Emerald, and I remember how we all were like "Pokémon would be so cool in 3d, but it'll never happen, imagine all the clipping issues, but we can dream, right?"
So when gen 6 dropped, when I was in high school, it felt magical to see it all come to life

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:30 PM

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i started from pokemon quest

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😭

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:30 PM

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I mean not if the city is made huge enough that you don't feel super cramped, but we shall see on that

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perfectly fine that's the minecraft-ish one right

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:30 PM

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shieldthen my first actual pokemon was sword/

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:30 PM

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Technically I started from left green

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:30 PM

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unkempt egret I mean not if the city is made huge enough that you don't feel super cramped, bu...

Paris catacombs. That's all.

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:30 PM

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I just never finished it

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:30 PM

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I ostensibly started from blue but I say I really started with sapphire lol

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since I didn't play blue much when super mario bros deluxe and wario land 2 were right there

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:31 PM

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If we have an underground area like that, we could have a city that's way larger than it seems

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:31 PM

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i feel like in a few years time nintendo will probably done with pokemon games

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since pokemon recently ended

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:31 PM

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naive timber i feel like in a few years time nintendo will probably done with pokemon games

Nope. Not nearly.

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:31 PM

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the whole ash adventures

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:31 PM

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They have a new anime

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Liko is the new protagonist

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:32 PM

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ohj

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pokemon horizons

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aw thats looks way to dead

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:32 PM

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Also this is the most profitable franchise in the entire world

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They ain't killing the cash cow

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:32 PM

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hmmmm real question

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:32 PM

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at least the ash adventures pokemon series was like what 20 seasons long

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:32 PM

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I'll watch horizons eventually

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:32 PM

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I just grabbed a dusk stone do I evolve my murkrow or keep it as-is

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:32 PM

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like honestly pokemon horizons is in paldea

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the game felt so stale

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:32 PM

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(playing sun atm)

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:32 PM

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T!coinfilp

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Wrong server

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:33 PM

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naive timber at least the ash adventures pokemon series was like what 20 seasons long

20 years at least, i know I saw him get that Pikachu.

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:33 PM

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I think the best way to put it is currently in paldea since I recall it's another region trot

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:33 PM

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ive only seen the first 2 seasons of pokemon

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:33 PM

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though not quite like gen 8 anime's where it was "all regions but far more of an adaptation of GO than it is of gen 8"

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:33 PM

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Did they every trying make an anime for gen 8?

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:33 PM

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indigo league seaosn 1 and 2

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 5:33 PM

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Or did journeys just go there for a few episodes

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:33 PM

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I think they condensed the climax in a few episodes and had some of its characters show up but yea it was much more about kanto/ash in general and GO than gen 8

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:34 PM

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I watched all the way up to the Sinnoh part of the anime but then kinda fell off

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Did watch the zoroark movie

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And a few episodes of the kalos era but it was eh. Maybe it was worse, maybe I'd just grown up too much.

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 5:36 PM

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heck I gotta get 270 :B:eans for the final island expansion

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:36 PM

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people say xyz is best series

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:37 PM

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I have a soft spot for the very first season.
Mostly for the dub, which is something I can't say for any other anime

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Bc of how wild that was

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But yeah, story-wise, it wasn't that much of a deep story or anything, and later seasons did do a way better job

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 5:41 PM

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i wish most pokemon games on pc can be controlled with the mouse

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like u could just click all the buttons with the mouse

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:41 PM

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Same

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That there's a reason why I use my ds to emulate instead of pc

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Feels less clunky than a keyboard

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Flashcard+ gba/gbc emulator combo <3

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Can also be done on a jailbroken 3ds if the original ds isn't an option.

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 5:46 PM

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naive timber like u could just click all the buttons with the mouse

like a point and click novel??

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mouse exclusive would go horribly for mainline pokemon

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like in a vacuum sure, but it would be fucking awful to control without arrow keys/wasd

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:48 PM

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Could work with the 2d games. I know a lot of other ds games let you just click the square you wanted to go to

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 5:48 PM

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if they managed to port the switch ones, then mouse would take the place of the pointer functions and camera, like skyrim

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:49 PM

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And that'd also work nicely with the gb games

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Not sure it'd work with anything past x and y

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 5:50 PM

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i mean, sure, but pokemon has always had stylus or touchscreen actions restricted to bottom screen, and top screen was overworld interaction

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in the case on single screen

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:50 PM

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And even with a few places in previous generations it'd be hard bc of some camera shifts

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 5:50 PM

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you used buttons

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:50 PM

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Yep

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But yeah, any places where the camera went low to show the size of the place

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 5:51 PM

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imagining how all that would be adapted to be a mouse-exclusive control option is
eugh

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why would you want that

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:51 PM

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Would be hell to control on mouse only

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 5:52 PM

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literally just use arrows or the touchscreen keypad if applicable

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:52 PM

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proven geyser why would you want that

To have the other hand free to hold snacks, maybe

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Also i suppose accessibility.

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 5:52 PM

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nah i'd be too frustrated to eat with just a mouse to control everything in the rpg format

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there are better ways to implement those options

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:53 PM

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Yep

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Clustering the keys to be reached by one hand

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 5:53 PM

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the keys in most games can be assigned to one side of the board

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same brain

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mouse is the most suboptimal option

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i don't even use all of my fingers at the same time

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:54 PM

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It's one of those things where like. Is it possible? Maybe. Is it going to be pleasant if successful? Probably not.

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 5:54 PM

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like it's not needed

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like literally, you only need 2 working fingers to use movement and select keys

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:55 PM

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But again as I mentioned. Some areas in gens 4, 5, and 6 would literally be impossible to navigate in with a mouse

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 5:55 PM

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exactly

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:55 PM

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Bc of the camera angle change

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Once we start having 3d elements in these games, all bets are off.

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 5:57 PM

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eh, top-down and 3/4 down have their charms

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 5:57 PM

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Could work in gens 1-3, but would still be less than ideal. Not to mention you'd need to somehow add some sort of pathing AI.

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They do have their charms and I really like them, but for this discussion, they're the only camera angles that work for this.

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Welp. Lost a teammate, but piplup evolved. The duality of battling in challenge runs

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 6:13 PM

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Why did they rename the channel to official pokemon games when it still allows other fangame talk

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 6:13 PM

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proven geyser like a point and click novel??

yea

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 6:14 PM

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Why offical

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Now where we gunna talk about fangames

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 6:14 PM

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Channel guidelines specifies other fangame talk is still allowed

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 6:14 PM

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Despair

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Oh

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 6:14 PM

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forgot ti change it probably

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 6:14 PM

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So why is it named this way? Idk

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I'm gonna continue talking about fangames anyways

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I don't know how to describe what just happened in my Pokemon Vanguard playthrough, it was uhh

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Very spoilery

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But I will say the sudden change back to normal music fucking killed me

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Also there was a very sudden spike in volume that destroyed my ears

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And probably woke a lot of people up

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Since it's 2 am for me

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Whoops

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 6:19 PM

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... lost my whole team to a goddamn roselia. How the hell.

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Wait

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My game crashed

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I had just lost my whole team to a roselia

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I don't know if I should bench them all bc of that loss or act like that never happened bc of the crash

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Also my piplup is no longer a prinplup :(

delicate hollow Oct 13, 2024, 6:36 PM

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Did you see the leaks?

icy idol Oct 13, 2024, 6:37 PM

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No?

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There have been leaks?

hard plume Oct 13, 2024, 6:41 PM

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sadly, yes.

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It was the biggest leak in Pokemon History

icy idol Oct 13, 2024, 6:42 PM

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Damn

hard plume Oct 13, 2024, 6:42 PM

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I'm talking straight up data breach

icy idol Oct 13, 2024, 6:42 PM

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Goddamn

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Was it about ZA?

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 6:43 PM

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No

hard plume Oct 13, 2024, 6:43 PM

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It was everything else

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 6:43 PM

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But it was about everything else

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Like

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EVERYTHING

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I'm kinda curious but it's one whole TB

icy idol Oct 13, 2024, 6:43 PM

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Like every game ever?

hard plume Oct 13, 2024, 6:44 PM

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icy idol Like every game ever?

Not... exactly, but we have way more beta content and concept art from Gen 3, Gen 4, and Gen 5.

icy idol Oct 13, 2024, 6:44 PM

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Damn

hard plume Oct 13, 2024, 6:44 PM

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Among other things

icy idol Oct 13, 2024, 6:44 PM

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What are the “among other things”?

hard plume Oct 13, 2024, 6:44 PM

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They even got all the codenames

hard plume Oct 13, 2024, 6:44 PM

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icy idol What are the “among other things”?

sidegames, film projects, anime projects

icy idol Oct 13, 2024, 6:44 PM

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Ah

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 6:45 PM

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Romhackers, modders, and fanartists will be eating good for a while

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Same with people dedicated to preserving betas

icy idol Oct 13, 2024, 6:45 PM

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That’s something good at least

hard plume Oct 13, 2024, 6:45 PM

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and they also leaked out addresses from people that worked at game freak

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 6:46 PM

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GF, however, is probably not happy at all

icy idol Oct 13, 2024, 6:46 PM

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hard plume and they also leaked out addresses from people that worked at game freak

Oh God

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 6:46 PM

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THAT is an issue

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And a huge one at that

hard plume Oct 13, 2024, 6:46 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Nintendo Ninjas rushed in to snuff it

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And in the future, I bet that security is going to be much, much tighter

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 6:46 PM

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No snuffing something this huge

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Damage control will need to be really really well done

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For the safety of everyone exposed by this

hard plume Oct 13, 2024, 6:47 PM

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It's like eating forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge

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We now know so much more... but at what cost?

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 6:48 PM

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what happened?

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I'm new to dis

icy idol Oct 13, 2024, 6:49 PM

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Scroll up a bit and you will see

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 6:49 PM

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Well this seems like a pretty heavy topic I just tabbed back into

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 6:50 PM

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On the positive.
I'm pretty sure any beta sprites leaked could be great assets to our spriters

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Not to try to diminish the issues but yk. Silver linings.

hard plume Oct 13, 2024, 6:51 PM

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wraith musk what happened?

TL;DR: some guy managed to break into GameFreak's developer portal and leaked a bunch a shit
Pros: A whole lot of beta content from gen 3, gen 4, and gen 5 has been unearthed, including concept art and sprites. And documents. There were also leaks for projects that have yet to be announced, like multiple anime, side game, and film projects.
Cons: that guy also leaked the addresses of people that worked at GameFreak.

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 6:53 PM

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Desperately hoping they all are and stay safe

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And that their jobs aren't in any jeopardy either

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 6:56 PM

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hard plume TL;DR: some guy managed to break into GameFreak's developer portal and leaked a ...

WOAH those cons are out of pocket af

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 6:56 PM

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proper iris And that their jobs aren't in any jeopardy either

same

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like I don't think that extra mile was needed

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 6:58 PM

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I would like to think it wasn't intentional, more like "Oh it's in the files, whoops"

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It's a massive amount of files

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 6:59 PM

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who even did thst

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and HOW

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 6:59 PM

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Some anon.

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 6:59 PM

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HOW DO YOU JUST HACK A BILLION DOLLAR COMPANYS FILES

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 6:59 PM

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I don't think they'll ID themselves

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 6:59 PM

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lmao

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:02 PM

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But yeah. Hoping the billion dollar company has enough money to protect their employees. It's like, less than 200 people working on GF iirc

digital grail Oct 13, 2024, 7:03 PM

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Not seen the leak yet but there's prob still no news for the Ranger series ashGiggle
Seriously though, I hope the employees stay safe. Companies don't care for their own anymore.

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:03 PM

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bastard really came in, scraped out a pumpkin called dev portal, and slapped the guts on the parchment with no rhyme or reason

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then just fucked off

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like, old scrapped content is very low on the harm scale, were it me i would've cut anything sensitive anything new

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:05 PM

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Yeah

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I think I'd have done the same

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Release the juicy stuff that makes fans excited but keep people safe

ripe grail Oct 13, 2024, 7:05 PM

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is nightshade better or is shadow punch better

digital grail Oct 13, 2024, 7:05 PM

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I don't care about the information that got out about new products, I just don't think you should have leaked where the devs live.

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:06 PM

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proper iris Release the juicy stuff that makes fans excited but keep people safe

agreed

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:06 PM

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the safety hazard aside, leaking unannounced new shit sucks because it's possible the company could just decide not to use it at all, because it got leaked

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:06 PM

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ripe grail is nightshade better or is shadow punch better

Depends, is your pokemon a physical or special attacker?

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:06 PM

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digital grail I don't care about the information that got out about new products, I just don't...

this too

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:06 PM

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proven geyser the safety hazard aside, leaking unannounced new shit sucks because it's possibl...

EXACTLY

ripe grail Oct 13, 2024, 7:06 PM

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proper iris Depends, is your pokemon a physical or special attacker?

idk, its lucario + haunter fusion

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:06 PM

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isn't night shade the level scale one

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:06 PM

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ripe grail idk, its lucario + haunter fusion

You'll have to check the base stats on the fusion dex

digital grail Oct 13, 2024, 7:07 PM

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proven geyser the safety hazard aside, leaking unannounced new shit sucks because it's possibl...

Seen companies do that; it's always a punishment against the fans.

ripe grail Oct 13, 2024, 7:07 PM

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its sp atk

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:07 PM

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Then night shade

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:07 PM

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digital grail Seen companies do that; it's always a punishment against the fans.

And a punishment for the actual devs who are working on it

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Bc they'll often have to redo work

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And see stuff they worked hard for be discarded

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:09 PM

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and leaking new shit esp near the release sucks because everyone will be sharing spoilers and you can't get a blind look even if you preorder

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:09 PM

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ripe grail is nightshade better or is shadow punch better

Very different moves, one has 60 BP and the other does damage equal to your level

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:09 PM

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night shade is ass ngl

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:09 PM

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Night Shade is better than Shadow Punch

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Since it has like 1 use

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On 1 type of Pokemon

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Shadow Punch has 0 use

digital grail Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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Nightshade is terrible

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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Unless you are in a playthrough

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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agreed

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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And really, REALLY need a physical move

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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still confused as to why gengar learns it

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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what the hell do you even use night shade for

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there's a billion better options

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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All my answers rely on "playthrough"

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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proven geyser what the hell do you even use night shade for

defense form deoxys

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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proven geyser what the hell do you even use night shade for

If you have a passive Pokemon whose highest damage output will be from Night Shade

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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it's only dmging move

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works great too

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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These passive Pokemon will usually be defensive mons

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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sucks for that mon

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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toxic plus recover

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And substitute

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:10 PM

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Shadow Punch is just

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Never use this

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:11 PM

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proven geyser sucks for that mon

You'd be very wrong

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:11 PM

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Nightshade is a decent move for early and mid playthrough

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:11 PM

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I've ripped teams apart by stall

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and pressure adds to it

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:11 PM

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Until you get better moves

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:11 PM

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well, stall is different

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:11 PM

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If you see a physical Ghost type, and its best physical STAB is Shadow Punch, you don't use it

digital grail Oct 13, 2024, 7:11 PM

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wraith musk still confused as to why gengar learns it

Shadowpunch was the only attacking ghost type move in gen 2.

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:11 PM

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isnt shadow punch 60 bp

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:11 PM

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The only physical ghost moves people consider are signature moves, near signature moves or Poltergeist

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:12 PM

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I also use a regigigas

substitute
Toxic
Frustration
Protect

Tera ghost

full atck n speed evs

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most ppl get fucking blasted apart

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and defense deoxys backing me up

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:12 PM

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This is a fusion they're asking about so

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:12 PM

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Physical ghosts are not eating good

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:12 PM

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proper iris This is a fusion they're asking about so

So basically

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:12 PM

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Take that into consideration

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:12 PM

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There is 0 reason to use a physical Ghost

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:12 PM

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if it's infinite fusion then this is the wrong channel

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lmao

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:13 PM

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proven geyser if it's infinite fusion then this is the wrong channel

True

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:13 PM

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i was about to send exactly that

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but the wind cut my Internet

digital grail Oct 13, 2024, 7:13 PM

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Correction, shadowpunch is one of 4 attacking ghost moves in gen 3

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:13 PM

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I still feel the need to ask why this channel is titled official pokemon games but elaborates it allows discussion about other pokemon fangames

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:13 PM

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I need a name for this girlie

rn_image_picker_lib_temp_5d213e5e-a06e-4e35-a153-01f38492e817.jpg

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:14 PM

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dusty :)

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:14 PM

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Name it uhhhhhhh

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Dave

digital grail Oct 13, 2024, 7:15 PM

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Gen 1 had Lick, Nightshade, and Confuse Ray.
Gen 2 had Curse, Destiny Bond, Nightmare, Shadow Ball, and Spite.
Gen 3 had Astonish, Grudge, and Shadow Punch.

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:16 PM

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Shadow Ball is no longer physical

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:16 PM

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SHADOW PUNCH DUSCLOPS WOOOO

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:16 PM

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Just a friendly reminder

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:16 PM

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does it matter

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if the split didnt exist

digital grail Oct 13, 2024, 7:16 PM

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Before the physical-special split, all ghost moves were physical

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:16 PM

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Yes, I know that

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:16 PM

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and we know ball is special lol

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:16 PM

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There is 0 other reason to mention shadow ball being physical

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Not only is it currently a special move

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But it also sounds like one

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:17 PM

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because lick was physical in gen 1

no need for a lick to have special powers

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then they forgot

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:17 PM

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it was a phys move at the time, it's important to mention as a then physical move

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:17 PM

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proven geyser dusty :)

Dusty it is

digital grail Oct 13, 2024, 7:18 PM

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Honestly, the only moves in that list I'd considered using on a pokemon were Curse, Destiny Bond, Shadow Ball, and early game Confuse Ray.

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:18 PM

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Ok but why did it take so long for Gamefreak to make a usable physical ghost move

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:18 PM

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at least they HAD shadow ball tbh

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:18 PM

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proper iris I need a name for this girlie

sandy

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:18 PM

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Not just usable, amazing

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:18 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/buff-sandy-gif-2150439795684221989

Tenor

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:18 PM

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But focusing on the usable part

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:18 PM

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fuck ghosts amiright

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:18 PM

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proven geyser fuck ghosts amiright

probably don-

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:19 PM

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girl.

digital grail Oct 13, 2024, 7:19 PM

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proven geyser at least they HAD shadow ball tbh

Better than bug type sip

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:19 PM

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rule2

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:19 PM

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wraith musk sandy

Saving that for the next area, can't catch anything for now

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:19 PM

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ight

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:19 PM

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digital grail Better than bug type <:sip:1215415155626741781>

scyther sad noises

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:19 PM

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wraith musk probably don-

Thanks now there's a song stuck in my head

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:19 PM

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proper iris Thanks now there's a song stuck in my head

how ?

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lyrics ?

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let's both get it stuck in our heads

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 7:20 PM

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"they should nerf u turn to 60bp" -scizor

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:20 PM

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Anyways, it seems I have completed the current Pokemon Vanguard story, so I am now collecting moths

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:20 PM

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proven geyser "they should nerf u turn to 60bp" -scizor

"You better shut the fuck up" -garchomp (gen 5)

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:20 PM

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This is important trust me

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:21 PM

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wraith musk let's both get it stuck in our heads

It's by Teddy Hyde, look up ||Sex With A Ghost||, it is a great song even with that title

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:21 PM

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proper iris It's by Teddy Hyde, look up ||Sex With A Ghost||, it is a great song even with t...

damn

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title is smthn

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:21 PM

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It is

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:22 PM

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ok first few lyrics and damn

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this guy got so high he began going at a ghoul

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:23 PM

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The song itself is mostly about loneliness and a craving for connection

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But it's very metaphoric and fun in how it expresses that

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:24 PM

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ikr

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was so desperate he used all items at his disposal

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 7:24 PM

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sweet crypt Ok but why did it take so long for Gamefreak to make a usable physical ghost mov...

if you don't count shadow claw then phantom force in gen 6. if you don't count that because it's a two-turn move then poltergeist in gen 8 DLC

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(as a side note it is kinda funny that the places where phantom force works, poltergest is bad and vice-versa)

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since in-game opponents generally don't carry items or care to swtich while if a comp opponent lacks an item then it got knocked off or it's abusing acrobatics lol

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(there's also marshadow's signature move in gen 7 but again, signature.)

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electric didn't get a break either until gen 9 DLC and even then it's still a move that gets wrecked by switches

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:27 PM

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unkempt egret if you don't count shadow claw then phantom force in gen 6. if you don't count t...

I don't count either Shadow Claw or Phantom Force, I was referring to Poltergeist

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Electric still doesn't have a physical move that isn't fraudulent

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 7:27 PM

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or signature

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:27 PM

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Your picks are a slightly improved Take Down clone or a literal Jump Kick clone

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 7:28 PM

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(or semi-signature in zing zap's case, which has a better chance to go to cacturne than it does to any electric that actually wants it)

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I mean being a jump kick clone would be perfectly fine... if hitting a ground type didn't count as a miss and blows half your HP away

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(high jump kick at least has +30 power to make the risk at least worth it)

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 7:30 PM

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Alright, about Pokemon Vanguard and collecting all moths

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Frosmoth is gonna be a pain to obtain

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It's a friendship evo at night, but the in game clock is heavily desynced with my timezone

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And it contrasts heavily with my current sleep schedule

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Let us not forget that this is a friendship evo, and those suck

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:32 PM

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igh

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it'd either lvl 28

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or 56

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no inbetween

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 7:38 PM

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sweet crypt Let us not forget that this is a friendship evo, and those suck

If you got any eggs to hatch, especially big batches, it's a good strategy to hatch them with the pokemon you want to increase friendship in the party.

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Gotta take a lot of steps all the same

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 7:44 PM

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So

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To any who are gunna start Vanguard

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don't start with sprigatigo

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Poison ghost is not a fun type combo to start with

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:54 PM

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gastly taught me that enough times

wraith musk Oct 13, 2024, 7:54 PM

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graceful osprey Poison ghost is not a fun type combo to start with

in games like insurgance it still helps

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due to early normal types

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but vanguard had mone of thst

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straight to different types

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 7:57 PM

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wraith musk in games like insurgance it still helps

One of the first bug fights is agaonst a fighting psychic type

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That's faster

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And has confuison

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It one shots you

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A required fight

unkempt egret Oct 13, 2024, 8:04 PM

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"sorry, you chose poorly. come back when you've chosen our preferred mon"

sweet crypt Oct 13, 2024, 8:08 PM

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Set up an autoclicker to grind the gardenia wannabe for money, exp candies and trainer points

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Literally one shot sweep with Flamethrower on a mon with like 80 SpA

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Fraud

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All the shinies I have encountered so far were uncatchable

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It's a good thing I don't care about shininess

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That's not a word is it?

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There's probably a word with the same meaning but just not this idk

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Anyways gonna leave my computer autoclicking Gardenia's imposter to hell and back and go to sleep

graceful osprey Oct 13, 2024, 8:15 PM

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I'm not saying it's impossible

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Just

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Hard

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Tailwind solves most problems

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So does Poison

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I'm 90% sure that one of its abilities is merciless

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So getting another to poison it

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Then setting up a tailwind

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Well

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Vice-versa

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Then a ghost move

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Or cry when poison powder misses

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Cause if it's not 100% accurate

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Is 50% accurate

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 8:42 PM

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Anyone has any good guides for tweaking in Platinum? I may try it once I'm done with the challenge part of this run

latent totem Oct 13, 2024, 9:21 PM

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so....

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how about them pokemon leaks

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pain

queen ember Oct 13, 2024, 9:22 PM

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man...

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im reading up on it,and sheesh

junior basin Oct 13, 2024, 9:23 PM

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what the hell

queen ember Oct 13, 2024, 9:23 PM

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finding out that some pokemon in x/y were originally for b2w2 is heartbreaking

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we have the people who hated gen 5 to blame

junior basin Oct 13, 2024, 9:24 PM

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i'm sorry but this question is killing me.

"Uh, do you think that our giant ass T-Rex fits beauty, exactly?"
(The T-Rex did infact, fit into Beauty quite well.)

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Also thinking of ther Gen 1 -> 5 parallels, was it possible that Tyrantrum was supposed to be the Unova Fossil's Aerodactyl equivalent?

queen ember Oct 13, 2024, 9:25 PM

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probably

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or maybe that was Archeops

junior basin Oct 13, 2024, 9:26 PM

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Also BW2 could've also been a parallel to Johto with the talk of new Pokemon.

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But damn, the fans scuffed the chance of any Gen 5 love in Kalos. 😔

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WAIT

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we could've had Unova 'cross gen' evo-like things in BW2 possibly

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like in Johto

queen ember Oct 13, 2024, 9:28 PM

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lets not do that.

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i don't wanna think about how much people really took away from us

junior basin Oct 13, 2024, 9:33 PM

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All I ask.
Is that this wrong gets corrected.
And Unova gets given back what got robbed of them by insufferable Genwunners of 2010 that pushed that whole thing.

latent totem Oct 13, 2024, 9:34 PM

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I think we might be neglecting the huge lore dump that got leaked

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stare

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not to mention all the stuff that'll absolutely break rule 4 if I discuss it

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lmao

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based gamefreak

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 9:53 PM

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latent totem not to mention all the stuff that'll absolutely break rule 4 if I discuss it

I'm curious, did they plan to have that kind of stuff mentioned/added in the games? Just a yes/ no is enough, let's not go deeper so no rules are broken

naive timber Oct 13, 2024, 9:54 PM

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i wonder when we will get a heart gold and soul silver remake

junior basin Oct 13, 2024, 9:55 PM

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latent totem not to mention all the stuff that'll absolutely break rule 4 if I discuss it

By that you mean...
Tje Typhlosion thing?
Bc i just read up on it and WHAT THE FUCK

latent totem Oct 13, 2024, 9:56 PM

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proper iris I'm curious, did they plan to have that kind of stuff mentioned/added in the gam...

Probably not, and if they did, it probably wouldve been HEAVILY toned down

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 9:56 PM

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Makes sense. Though we've had alcohol mentions in previous games but that was always removed in the international versions

twilit hazel Oct 13, 2024, 9:57 PM

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junior basin All I ask. Is that this wrong gets corrected. And Unova gets given back what got...

I'd say Kalos fans got robbed harder imo

latent totem Oct 13, 2024, 9:58 PM

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I could see the lapras/octillery story making it in as is with the removal of a certain phrase, but the rest, yeah unlikely

twilit hazel Oct 13, 2024, 9:58 PM

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Robbed of a game that wasn't just Kanto 2

latent totem Oct 13, 2024, 9:58 PM

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twilit hazel Robbed of a game that wasn't just Kanto 2

Kalos wasnt just kanto again tho

junior basin Oct 13, 2024, 9:58 PM

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twilit hazel Robbed of a game that wasn't just Kanto 2

Oh yeah, true

latent totem Oct 13, 2024, 9:58 PM

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It was fairly different

twilit hazel Oct 13, 2024, 9:58 PM

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Santalune Forest was literally just Viridian Forest

latent totem Oct 13, 2024, 9:59 PM

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Thats really the only similarity

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 9:59 PM

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Honestly it really explains why the story felt rushed and kinda loosely tied together

latent totem Oct 13, 2024, 9:59 PM

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And every game has a early-mid game forest

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 9:59 PM

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I have a special place in my heart for Kalos, and it feels nothing like Kanto, but holy fuck.

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It needed more love

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It needed so much more love

latent totem Oct 13, 2024, 10:00 PM

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Gamefreak half bakes a lot of ideas nowadays

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:00 PM

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It was the first pokemon for 3ds

twilit hazel Oct 13, 2024, 10:01 PM

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It was basically designed just to appease the fans that didn't like BW, to the point where the Kanto starters had Megas instead of the Kalos ones. And Mewtwo randomly being shoved into the game alongside 2 Megas didn't help.

latent totem Oct 13, 2024, 10:01 PM

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Hell, sometimes they dont even cook

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:01 PM

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So it feels like it needed to make a better impression

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And tbh Unova was a thing I will admit, back in the day we were all salty about it

radiant leaf Oct 13, 2024, 10:02 PM

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twilit hazel It was basically designed just to appease the fans that didn't like BW, to the p...

Yeah Zard & Mewtwo didn’t both need 2 megas

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:02 PM

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Mostly bc we thought it was going to fully erase the pokemon from previous gens in the future

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It was being called a "reset" for the franchise after all

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So maybe it was also a case of miscommunication that snowballed

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Fans thinking they wouldn't see their favorites again and raging, then it being overcorrected

radiant leaf Oct 13, 2024, 10:04 PM

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Yeah probably a translation issue

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Gen 5 is defo a soft reboot tho

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:04 PM

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It is

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But back then we didn't know of the "soft" part of it

radiant leaf Oct 13, 2024, 10:05 PM

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Yeah

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BW2 were great games tho

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:05 PM

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Imma be honest, because of this miscommunication thing, i didn't get those.

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I was not aware that old pokemon were back.

radiant leaf Oct 13, 2024, 10:06 PM

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They were my first

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:06 PM

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Nowadays I'm nostalgic for gen5

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But it did take a while to grow on me

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And on many others

coarse estuary Oct 13, 2024, 10:07 PM

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i think the reason we dont have things like gen 5 bw1 and bw2 is because everyone was scared the old pokemon would never be seen again when bw1 was released so that hate bled into gen 5 sequals so gf was like we wont make any more soft reboots or sequals anymore

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:08 PM

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We did get sequels later tho

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USUM

twilit hazel Oct 13, 2024, 10:08 PM

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God, I want an XY rewrite so badly

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:08 PM

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We need XY rewrites

twilit hazel Oct 13, 2024, 10:08 PM

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Something, ANYTHING that decanonizes the current version

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:08 PM

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The map tho? Perfect.

coarse estuary Oct 13, 2024, 10:08 PM

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proper iris USUM

usum are not sequals

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:09 PM

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I honestly miss the rivals in XY.

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I wish they'd been better developed

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But the concepts of them

twilit hazel Oct 13, 2024, 10:09 PM

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Hell, make a damn game where someone tries to erase the current Pokémon timeline and have it be a reboot of the franchise starting with XY onwards

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:09 PM

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I just loved them

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Tierno in particular

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His dance thing felt like a breath of fresh air

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Like, yes!!! these are partners in more than battle!!!!

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Other dreams and goals to be accomplished beside your team!!!!

coarse estuary Oct 13, 2024, 10:11 PM

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i wonder what though some games would look like if they got sequals with a 1st version link like we had with the memory and unova links in bw2 with bw1

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:12 PM

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The customization, the locations, even the silly little fact we could sit down... It all was fun. Kalos was magical for me.

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If the story was better and the difficulty (or lack thereof) was fixed

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It'd have been so amazing

twilit hazel Oct 13, 2024, 10:13 PM

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All these leaks are genuinely fueling a terrible idea inspired by Sonic Generations, where you get to revisit the previous regions and the main villain wants to erase the timeline and has a Pokémon that kinda looks like this

radiant leaf Oct 13, 2024, 10:13 PM

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twilit hazel All these leaks are genuinely fueling a terrible idea inspired by Sonic Generati...

Hoopa unbound

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https://tenor.com/view/hoopa-gif-20243481

Tenor

twilit hazel Oct 13, 2024, 10:14 PM

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Basically that but for time travel

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:14 PM

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I gotta revisit my Kalos save now. Someday I gotta bring everyone from that to a newer game but that'll be when I can actually afford a switch

radiant leaf Oct 13, 2024, 10:15 PM

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Wasn’t it stated in the god awful hoopa move that its rings did that?

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:15 PM

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It was more like teleporting portals, not time travel, I think

radiant leaf Oct 13, 2024, 10:16 PM

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Eh I never watched that film

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:16 PM

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But that movie made little sense anyway

radiant leaf Oct 13, 2024, 10:16 PM

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Watched the volcanion one tho

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And the diance movie

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:16 PM

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Watched here in the server, gave up on understanding anything not even 30 minutes in

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What even was that movie

radiant leaf Oct 13, 2024, 10:17 PM

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Yeah the hoopa one is god awful

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Hoopa’s voice too

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:18 PM

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Got used to it after a bit. Not as bad as that chopped spaghetti of a plot

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Unrelated, sometimes I get unreasonably angry when I'm reminded fighting is half damage against bug

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I know the cultural reasons for that matchup to be what it is but WHAT DO YOU MEAN A CATERPILLAR RESISTS A KARATE CHOP

radiant leaf Oct 13, 2024, 10:22 PM

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I always remember it cus bug resists fighting and vice versa

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:22 PM

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I didn't remember it when bringing my machop to train in Eterna Forest.

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And the whole team

radiant leaf Oct 13, 2024, 10:23 PM

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proper iris I know the cultural reasons for that matchup to be what it is but WHAT DO YOU ME...

Bugs resist karate chop because of this little thing in Japan called Kamen Rider

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:23 PM

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Also beetle fights being compared to sumo and whatnot

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Am in that part where we team up with Cheryl so switch-training will only mean even less xp and going past this part to where I'm solo again means no free autohealing

radiant leaf Oct 13, 2024, 10:25 PM

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Yeah beetles are like “honourable warriors” or smth over there

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:25 PM

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And this boy has no other type of move yet

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So

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P a i n

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Beetle fights are fun to watch. I can see how that inspired this whole game franchise.

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~~But it won't stop me being angry at this matchup~~

latent totem Oct 13, 2024, 10:40 PM

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https://twitter.com/FlorkOfCows/status/1845520926474965133?t=hx2YBzLP4XHSJ89qkvME7g&s=19

Flork (@FlorkOfCows) on X

nintendo what the fuck

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aeugh

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:48 PM

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FLORKKKKK

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 10:53 PM

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FLORK NO

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:56 PM

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Welp.
There goes my machop bc I had no clue fully evolved beautiflies appeared.

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Boxing boy is now boxed :(

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 10:57 PM

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proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:57 PM

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Call the pikipek Phoenix.

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 10:57 PM

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real

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:57 PM

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Or at the very least Apollo

coarse estuary Oct 13, 2024, 10:58 PM

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toucannon is my fave so my vote is simple

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 10:58 PM

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tbh i really like cannon's shiny

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the beak is so pretty

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 10:58 PM

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Shiny toucannon says bi rights

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 10:58 PM

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real

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if i hunt cleffa and get shiny egg baby AGAIN i will cry

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and then evolve the normal egg in my box into chansey so i can complete the living line

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i open the game and this bitch rotom suggests i get a haircut

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fuck you

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i love my long and touseled wine red

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 11:04 PM

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Rotom being a jerk

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 11:05 PM

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hes such an annoying fuck

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im glad i reset just to ignore him entirely

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i save all the time so i felt okay with SRing when i accidentally tapped rotom once

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 11:08 PM

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What

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That's petty, and I'm saying that as a compliment

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 11:08 PM

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dw i had nothing cool on that save before i reset

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i just opened the game one day and he would not shut the fuck up

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 11:08 PM

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"Ignoring rotom" run

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 11:09 PM

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min interaction%

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i don't think he gives a shiny boost so worth it to have map availability

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yeah just checked he doesn't give shit

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off to the pikipek grind

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 11:15 PM

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Other than bad opinions

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And unsolicited advice

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 11:15 PM

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fr tho rotom is useless to my playstyle

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he mentions it's unwanted and says it anyway

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 11:16 PM

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I feel like the idea of it being a silly sidekick in your dex is good and all but the execution makes it annoying

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 11:17 PM

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i'm sure it has a place for japanese audiences but the translation makes me want to rip the code out of the game cartridge

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 11:18 PM

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Yet another little creature suffering from Navi syndrome

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 11:18 PM

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yet another creature suffering from "can i PLEASE have an option to turn it off" syndrome

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like it's a trial run right, are you really going to force this literal child to keep a pokemon they desperately do not want

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wish i could like. get kukui to take it back

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 11:20 PM

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I think he likely also doesn't want the rotom

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 11:20 PM

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if i asked for it back thn it should be rightfully annoyed and reset its "friendship"

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 11:20 PM

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And it's just an excuse for him to get rid of the little pest

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 11:20 PM

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finally, pikipek

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 11:21 PM

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Birb!!!!

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 11:21 PM

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starts calling instantly, love my Often callers

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now that mindless gameplay start, time to watch video

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if i get this birb in a timely manner i might go for rat or cleffa, since it's in night cycle

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 11:24 PM

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Good luck with all those :D

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I'm just praying I'll find a shiny at all in Platinum

proven geyser Oct 13, 2024, 11:28 PM

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real

proper iris Oct 13, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Aaaaand Aria the Staravia is also out of commission. How the hell a buneary 4 levels below her managed to do that after being intimidated is beyond me.

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But that'll cripple my team for the next gym

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 12:00 AM

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genuinely cant tell if im over odds yet

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this lvl 12 caller i was trying to use just kept going and going goddamn

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at full health

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 12:37 AM

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yeesh

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been an hour but i have a lot of berries and video left

graceful osprey Oct 14, 2024, 1:08 AM

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Fuck

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I spaced it and I ran

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My chain ended

midnight hedge Oct 14, 2024, 1:32 AM

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🤔 so we've established the leaks are just real-world myths with the animals replaced with pokemon, right?
dunno where we're talking about this, but i wanna make sure no one's freaking out

tight granite Oct 14, 2024, 1:33 AM

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well yeah

midnight hedge Oct 14, 2024, 1:34 AM

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good 👍 glad to see folks got their heads on straight

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 1:35 AM

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We're good

graceful osprey Oct 14, 2024, 1:35 AM

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Leaks?

midnight hedge Oct 14, 2024, 1:35 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/farfetch'd-pokemon-pokemon-farfetch'd-leek-happy-gif-5570542103100158276

Tenor

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leeks 😌

graceful osprey Oct 14, 2024, 1:36 AM

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Huh

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~~I like galars version better~~

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 1:36 AM

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Talking about myths, I'll never not love the cleverness of this statue

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graceful osprey Oct 14, 2024, 1:36 AM

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proper iris Talking about myths, I'll never not love the cleverness of this statue

Zaplocuno energy

midnight hedge Oct 14, 2024, 1:36 AM

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i'll let someone else explain. i had to google to find out why everyone was freaking out about typhlosion

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 1:37 AM

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I still don't know exactly why but I've got the gist of it. Still wanna check those files out for myself soon-ish

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So in summary, don't worry about it too much, you'll find out sooner or later by osmosis

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(Also we already knew about pokemon and humans having relationships since at least gen4 so I'm not sure why the hell people are going crazy about it. Just bc specific pokemon were named?)

tight granite Oct 14, 2024, 1:42 AM

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agreed

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like the slakoth story is horrific but all people talk about in there is the relation

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 1:44 AM

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I am now more curious.

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Any specific myth it parallels?

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Or is it more a mix of myths?

tight granite Oct 14, 2024, 1:45 AM

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i know the thploshion one if just a rewrte of one, dont know what the slakoth one is refrencing

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 1:47 AM

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... ok I just read that and.
Wow.

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It does sound like some grimm brothers type deal

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At the very least

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I feel like it may have been taken from some myth as well, it has a similar feel

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Mmmmmmaybe if very toned down it'd have fit some tale told in a Legends game.

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But yeah. I guess some concepts were not meant to be seen by the public for a reason

midnight hedge Oct 14, 2024, 1:51 AM

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at least one person on twitter has clocked the slakoth one as an indu (their spelling) myth and the typhlosion one as japanese
the typhlosion one also sounds very much like "East of Sun, West of Moon"

coarse estuary Oct 14, 2024, 2:00 AM

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2nd one of the run

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:01 AM

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... The Octillery and Ursaring story is confusing me.

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The thing with myths is that they usually are there as an explanation for some phenomenon or as a lesson, and without that context they just become confusing as hell.

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And the thyphlosion one is just sad

winter flare Oct 14, 2024, 2:07 AM

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i like the beta trapinch designs

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:09 AM

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Beta trapinch was baby

unkempt egret Oct 14, 2024, 2:09 AM

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...huh.

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I guess you can just run from the first nihlego fight in S/M

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never considered that in any of my previous playthroughs

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also I like how the beta trapinch line was basically all Vibrava until they diversified it

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I could easily see someone touching those up a bit for vibrava/trapinch and vibrava/flygon for IF

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:11 AM

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I just wonder if a theory I've had for years can be proven or disproven by this

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I've theorized that Flygon and Salamence had their names swapped at some point

tight granite Oct 14, 2024, 2:13 AM

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i dont see why

winter flare Oct 14, 2024, 2:13 AM

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also i was looking at the leaked history thing and saw this

tight granite Oct 14, 2024, 2:13 AM

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flygon is a dragonfly

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and salamence is a salamander

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:13 AM

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Flygon has a salamander-like appearance, for starters, the dream of the whole Salamence line was flight and all other names in that evo line end in -gon, etc etc

winter flare Oct 14, 2024, 2:13 AM

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theres also a gordon/goodon? that i believe couldve just been goodra

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:13 AM

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Salamence is not a salamander at all.

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:14 AM

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winter flare theres also a gordon/goodon? that i believe couldve just been goodra

Only if goodra was planned waaaay early. This thing is from 2005, there's not even Giratina in there

tight granite Oct 14, 2024, 2:14 AM

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way more lizard then flygon

winter flare Oct 14, 2024, 2:14 AM

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proper iris Only if goodra was planned waaaay early. This thing is from 2005, there's not ev...

oh

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dies

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:15 AM

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tight granite way more lizard then flygon

That is debatable. At least in terms of body shape.

unkempt egret Oct 14, 2024, 2:15 AM

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WHAT

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"raichu used quick attack!"

tight granite Oct 14, 2024, 2:15 AM

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he also has designes based on real life salamander and is based on a dragon

unkempt egret Oct 14, 2024, 2:16 AM

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...I know I have an umbreon out but C'mon hau do you not have any electric move than what

tight granite Oct 14, 2024, 2:16 AM

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flygon is very clearly a dragonfly tho which is why its name is that

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:16 AM

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But as said, it's just a thing I've hypothesized about for a long time and not anything too solid

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:17 AM

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the two are unrelated tbh

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:17 AM

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Makes sense in my brain but maybe not in those of anyone else

unkempt egret Oct 14, 2024, 2:17 AM

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wow the AI actually switched a mon out of a bad situation

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:17 AM

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also flygon is an antlion, which is similar but not the same || 🤓 ||

unkempt egret Oct 14, 2024, 2:17 AM

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ok cool he didn't even get to use the Z-move fantastic

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crobat moment

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:18 AM

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proven geyser also flygon is an antlion, which is similar but not the same || 🤓 ||

It's an antlion, a lizard, a pilot, and something else I can't put my finger on

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:21 AM

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this could also be conjecture but people think the similarities in theming and name are because dragonflies and antlions are often confused

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antlions are also called "sand dragons", making the typing a literal extension of that

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:22 AM

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They're one of many bugs where it's easier to tell them apart at one life stage but not another, I guess

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:23 AM

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correct!

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many bugs metamorphosize on the path to adulthood

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:23 AM

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Can't mix up an antlion larva with a dragonfly larva, especially bc they live in completely different environments

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:24 AM

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flygon also seems to be a play on dragonfly, which, considering its theming, would have no reason to be tacked onto the bagon evo

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:25 AM

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I don't mean the pokemon

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I mean just the names

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But fair, all the same

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:25 AM

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still not very compelling, no offense

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just checked the jp name for salamence

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:26 AM

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Is it just "Salamence"?

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:26 AM

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ボーマンダ (Bohmander) is very unfitting

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暴 bō means "violent", and then salamander

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flygon is the same as jp

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:27 AM

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Yeah, but it gives credit to your argument that the line was meant to be named that

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:27 AM

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i'm disproving your theory, yes

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:27 AM

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So I guess that makes my decade-old theory crumble

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:27 AM

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ye

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:27 AM

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Fair enough

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:27 AM

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tbh i just had to pull up anything that had their names in jp to check if they were different

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so, easy to disprove

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naming things and the meaning of are fun

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:29 AM

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Putting this one along with "Blue's Rattata Is Dead" in the pile of "things young me thought had to be true but were easily proven wrong"

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:29 AM

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goodra is "Numelgon" which is funny to me

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From 滑る (numeru(slippery)), gel, and dragon

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:31 AM

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So slimy dragon. Fitting

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:32 AM

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slippery gel dragon!

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:32 AM

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Gotta name one of my pet snails that

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:32 AM

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goo dragon is silly, too

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:32 AM

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It is

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But I feel goomy is the perfectly named one in the line

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Even the sound of the name works

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:34 AM

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goomy babie

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:34 AM

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It sounds very bouba, if you know what I'm talking about

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And that pairs perfectly with the shape and vibe of the little guy

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:36 AM

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i thot u were talking abt boba and totally forgot about the weird gender shapes

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:38 AM

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Bouba/kiki, yeah

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Aka maluma/takete

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But tbh goomy does look like boba.

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Imagine a bunch in a cup of tea. Cutest boba ever.

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:39 AM

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they use him for ur weird milk drink
is worth? angery

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:40 AM

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Cursed drink:
Miltank milk
Shuckle juice
Sinistea tea
Goomy boba

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Considering sinistea is in it, it's probably also literally cursed

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:43 AM

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actually i think a few dex entries say shuckle makes berry juice and gives it willingly

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:43 AM

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Yep it does!

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It's still fermented berry and bodily fluids tho :D

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:44 AM

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ye he's an endolith, a mold that lives in rocks

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:44 AM

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(~~I say, as if I didn't eat honey~~)

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(~~Which is also processed nectar and bodily juices~~)

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:45 AM

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mmmmmm bee vomit

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thank ur bees, the ladies r hard working

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:45 AM

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They sure are

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And also the only creature that consents to us keeping them around for us to harvest what they make! They'll literally move away if a beekeeper isn't good enough for them.

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:46 AM

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i love bees, whenever i'm near the apiculture setup/hives i try to get them to land on me, but they just ignore me and buzz away

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bumblebees are fun bc theyre stupid and silly

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:47 AM

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Can't keep them safe? Don't supplement their food sources in scarcity? Hivebox not adequate? Well, too bad, they're moving away~

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:48 AM

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bzzzz

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:48 AM

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I love our local mamangava bumblebees

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All black, fluffy, beautiful

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Incredible pollinators especially for passionfruit plants

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But never mess with them, or you'll sorely regret it bc their sting is one of the worst stings ever

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:49 AM

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i mean deserved tbh

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wasps don't really sting unless you swat or freak out at them

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i kept thinking they were non honeybees bc they were just so calm

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:50 AM

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Thankfully they're chill most of the time. Had a couple of them land on me a few times

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Wasps are lovely

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As long as you don't mess with their nests

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And as long as they don't make a nest in your house

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But they're great. Mud-daubing wasps are a joy to watch as they gather clay.

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:52 AM

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my personal favorite are the entire blue Osmia section

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Osmia ribifloris, for example

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blue mason bees are pretty and i want a pokemon of them

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:53 AM

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Oh, mason bees!

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I want some meliponini

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Specifically carrion/vulture bees

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Because the concept of them would be so cool as a pokemon

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:55 AM

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we need beemon with more realistic gender ratios

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just lock the evo to an ability smh

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:55 AM

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Could even work with stuff like veluzas shedding flesh or the crab mons losing claws, but bee pokemon that take those meaty bits to the hive and make honey from them

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Maybe a poison type, bc that kind of honey is said to not be safe for human consumption

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(Makes sense, irl it's made of rotting flesh)

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:56 AM

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shit who woulda guessed

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:58 AM

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Or maybe some other fun meliponini like one we call "feiticeira" (lit. She-spellcaster)
They make hives underground and their honey is hallucinogenic bc of the plants they use

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 2:58 AM

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anything based on genus Osmia would make me happy tbh, esp if it was rock or ground bc they're Mason bees and actually do mini masonry

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:58 AM

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So a ground/psychic could be cool

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We need rock and ground bees, period

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 2:59 AM

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proper iris Or maybe some other fun meliponini like one we call "feiticeira" (lit. She-spell...

Trigona recursa! That was the name

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 3:00 AM

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rock/bug has less weaknesses, ground/bug has more resists but another weakness,,,

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hmm

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bug is such a suboptimal type, i need a lore reason to give a steel/bug flash fire or well baked

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 3:01 AM

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Who says they need to be bug types? Could be cool to have a bug-shaped mon not be the type

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 3:01 AM

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i want bug to be good and fun :(

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 3:01 AM

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Fair

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 3:02 AM

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also a steel/bug has no type SE against it if it has a fire absorbing ability

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 3:02 AM

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Talking about bugs

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Took her long enough

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proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 3:03 AM

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Dusty! :D

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 3:03 AM

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We got a Gardenia to beat but still gotta level her up a bit

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Will be easier now she can actually attack

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 3:04 AM

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luv how happy dustox looks

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 3:04 AM

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Big ol smile between those big ol compound eyes

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 3:05 AM

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wanna pap her on the head

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shes just happy to see u properly after gettin outta the silk cocoon

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 3:09 AM

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Can't wait to be able to do contests

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Bc we know that likely she won't stay in the battle team for all the run, but she may still do great in contests

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And I'm silly and sentimental with these little bundles of pixels and don't like to have anyone from my main team be left behind

nimble quarry Oct 14, 2024, 3:23 AM

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which one

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vileplume

graceful osprey Oct 14, 2024, 3:32 AM

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https://youtube.com/shorts/uf_peMQZ7og?si=xiC1R79S6zW7rzDg

YouTube

SuperMonkeyCherrim

Autism #shorts

The best season

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▶ Play video

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Was gen 5 the only game to do seaseons?

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Seasons*

unkempt egret Oct 14, 2024, 3:36 AM

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probably unless you count GO or X/Y's thematic season progression that has no gameplay effect

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 3:49 AM

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Unfortunately yes. We need seasons again.

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Gardenia did a number on my team. Half of it is out of commission for the next stretch, Dusty was the MVP all the while

unkempt egret Oct 14, 2024, 3:51 AM

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rip the trio

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 4:01 AM

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DUSTY LUV HER

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cant wait for her contest debut

uncut oracle Oct 14, 2024, 4:04 AM

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||just saw a bunch of the leaked beta sprites, dunno where else to talk about it||

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my favorite is ||rotom flush||

proven geyser Oct 14, 2024, 4:36 AM

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past gen beta should be okay

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it's the to-be-released new shit that requires a firing squad

sand dust Oct 14, 2024, 4:46 AM

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This "crazy leak" isn't really that crazy

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Sure, it's a ton of sprites and concepts, but it's all scrapped stuff

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When it comes to gen 10, all we have is the codename

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Which says absolutely nothing about the game

hard plume Oct 14, 2024, 5:06 AM

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sand dust This "crazy leak" isn't really that crazy

so we're gonna forget the fact that the leaker also leaked the addresses of GameFreak employees?

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And other documents?

sand dust Oct 14, 2024, 5:12 AM

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hard plume so we're gonna forget the fact that the leaker also leaked the addresses of Game...

I didn't forget, i straight up had no idea

fringe flower Oct 14, 2024, 5:15 AM

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but apparently the leaker has the source codes for ZA & Gen 10

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yikes

hard plume Oct 14, 2024, 5:25 AM

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WAIT THAT'S EVEN WORSE

fringe flower Oct 14, 2024, 5:29 AM

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fortunately, they said that they aren't going to reveal any further information about them
-# let's just hope that they don't leak the both of them any further

analog timber Oct 14, 2024, 5:42 AM

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wait, what's going on?!

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WHAT, we could have had a peacock Pokémon in gen 3?!

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I prefer beta Blaziken, since the one we got is kind of plain

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like they stripped it of its best bits

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I prefer beta Black Kyurem more, since it actually commits to being a quadruped instead of doing the dumb arm swinging Druddigon does

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so Grovyle was originally going to be Scraggy's evo

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RIP walk cycle

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no way would Simisear be the least popular Pokémon of all time (as of Gen 5) if it looked like that!

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icy idol Oct 14, 2024, 6:36 AM

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Awww it looks cute

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If he looked like that, I would want him in the game

hazy gulch Oct 14, 2024, 7:23 AM

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a beta absol fusion would be cool ohyes

cloud quartz Oct 14, 2024, 7:52 AM

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the pokemon legends za trailer supposedly

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the music is a bop ngl

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eeveedancing

delicate hollow Oct 14, 2024, 9:59 AM

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That's not even real

cloud quartz Oct 14, 2024, 10:24 AM

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Good chance its not

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all leaks should be taken with a grain of salt shrug

wet narwhal Oct 14, 2024, 12:02 PM

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Hi everyone, sorry if it's a dumb question but the recent leak could open the door to a new generation of romhacks right?
I know Infinite Fusion is based in RPG Maker so it's not included, but from my understanding, for now most popular romhacks are based on FireRed, could this mean that there could be new ways to make games based on the NDS gens?

pallid mauve Oct 14, 2024, 12:28 PM

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wet narwhal Hi everyone, sorry if it's a dumb question but the recent leak could open the do...

no guarantees, even if we have source code, there's still the issue of the tools needed to make alterations to the code not being up to snuff

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gen 4-5 romhacking/modding is still in early dev stages because of extra complexities they brought about

umbral egret Oct 14, 2024, 12:29 PM

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even then PIF doesn't use fire red romhacking to make it work

pallid mauve Oct 14, 2024, 12:29 PM

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with the source code we could maybe upgrade the tools, but it'll still be a few years before we really see anything big

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the only reason gens 1-3, especially 3, are so big is because the tools have been out for so long

wet narwhal Oct 14, 2024, 1:16 PM

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pallid mauve the only reason gens 1-3, especially 3, are so big is because the tools have bee...

Makes sense.. We're not going to see S/V or Legends:Arceus romhacks for a while then 😅
Thats too bad because visually they're interesting (in the sense that they're 3d) but I found the stories and gameplay loops to be rather boring, that would be so much potential for insane romhacks that are not going to be around anytime soon...

pallid mauve Oct 14, 2024, 1:16 PM

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i mean the closest i know that exists are demakes

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there's a sw/sh demake

wet narwhal Oct 14, 2024, 1:17 PM

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You're right, but i was talking about the engine itself rather than the games

umbral egret Oct 14, 2024, 1:17 PM

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i mena, romhacks do exist for S/V because its made in Unity

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as opposed to the DS games which were made in their own engine

pallid mauve Oct 14, 2024, 1:18 PM

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the game engine also does play a part

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depending on that will mean tools need to be made from scratch [see stuff for most pokemon games up to probably the 3DS era] or using existing tools

scenic whale Oct 14, 2024, 1:50 PM

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cloud quartz the pokemon legends za trailer supposedly

Is that the regular show song?

wet narwhal Oct 14, 2024, 2:21 PM

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umbral egret i mena, romhacks do exist for S/V because its made in Unity

It does make sense to rebuild from scratch instead of reverse engineering for such a complex game. I hadn't heard about it until now, i hope the audience for this kind of fangames grows

umbral egret Oct 14, 2024, 2:37 PM

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I follow a guy who is making a rom hack for SV and he said the encounter table is nuts

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He is not touching encounters with a 100ft pole

shadow shard Oct 14, 2024, 2:48 PM

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cloud quartz the pokemon legends za trailer supposedly

Where did u find this

junior basin Oct 14, 2024, 2:57 PM

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theres.

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there's a 2nd 'beta' touga.
it's just literally a slight revision but woahzers.

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:40 PM

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analog timber

Bro is such a chonker

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Nah but game freak is freaky

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If the stories are true

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Which they probably are it kinda fits with the deeper side of Pokémon lore

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 3:41 PM

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TAKE IT WITH A HANDFUL OF SALT UNTIL WE HAVE CONFIRMATION

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:41 PM

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Like driftbloon and stuff

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:41 PM

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atomic orchid TAKE IT WITH A HANDFUL OF SALT UNTIL WE HAVE CONFIRMATION

I will

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I’m being careful

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I only fully believe the source code stuff

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 3:42 PM

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“I’m doubting it”
calls them all freaks

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:42 PM

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it’s fun to say

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I’m leaning toward real

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but I’m not totally convinced

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If it was real I wouldn’t be surprised

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some stuff is definitely real

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 3:43 PM

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I still say those stories are too well written to be translated docs. And have a lot of current writing trends for a near 20 year old game

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:43 PM

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I guess so

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it’d be crazy if we got confirmation

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game freak down fall would go crazy/j

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 3:44 PM

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We got confirmation for 30 years of employee info

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:44 PM

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please don’t be freaky game freak 😭

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 3:44 PM

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That’s all

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:44 PM

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atomic orchid That’s all

It’s hard to fake some of the stuff that’s been shared no?

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 3:45 PM

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It’s easy to fake shit all the time when the only source is a 4chan anon post

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Which should have been strike one for credibility

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Nintendo and PlayStation had their leaked recently too. But those were ransomware stuff. Not “I’m leaking. This for shits and giggles”

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:46 PM

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Ok well I don’t appreciate you trying to sway everyone else’s opinion to match your own I’m very respectfully telling you I believe some stuff and some stuff I don’t and your trying to get me to change my opinion I didn’t ask for someone to try to change my opinion

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 3:47 PM

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I’m not trying to g to sway opinion. I’m trying to make people see reason when the knee jerk reaction is “this mon is now toxic and everything I read is gospel”

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:47 PM

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I hope you have a nice day

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:47 PM

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atomic orchid I’m not trying to g to sway opinion. I’m trying to make people see reason when t...

I understand that I never said that everything was real without a doubt

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everything should be taken with a grain of salt until legal action has been taken

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 3:48 PM

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I’ve been arguing with people over it for 5 hours now. Sorry if the fuse is short

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:48 PM

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cause that’s when it signifies that some stuff was in fact real

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:48 PM

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atomic orchid I’ve been arguing with people over it for 5 hours now. Sorry if the fuse is shor...

It’s alright man I get it

untold hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:49 PM

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That was so annoying, the previous 2 pokemon used sand attack THRICE and burn hit thrice, rest all the moves got missed

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:49 PM

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Also the docs could’ve been written for something like arceus or something more recent

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 3:50 PM

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According to the original post they were for the DP Canalave library. So around what? 2008?

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2006?

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:50 PM

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Didn’t know that thanks for informing me

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It is also possible that the translator reviewed the translation and made it more understandable

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I don’t know alot of things are up in the air

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 3:51 PM

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That’s just lending credence to the “I flavored it with my own writing”

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:51 PM

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I really hope the gaia and mega zygarde leaks are real though

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That would be epic

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 3:51 PM

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mrshrug

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I missed the game leaks and have only seen some beta art and the “stories”

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:52 PM

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Apparently mega zygarde is so supposed to show up in the anime and then along with that we’ll get news on Z-A

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 3:53 PM

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Huh

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Well whatever. I expect we’ll have a massive course correction soon to further discredit the leaks. Like media before now has done

north hill Oct 14, 2024, 3:54 PM

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Hopefully

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 3:54 PM

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~~and has never worked to a story’s credit~~

naive timber Oct 14, 2024, 4:07 PM

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untold hill That was so annoying, the previous 2 pokemon used sand attack THRICE and burn hi...

which game

coarse estuary Oct 14, 2024, 4:13 PM

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found this baby

unkempt egret Oct 14, 2024, 4:13 PM

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a good alien bby

young cedar Oct 14, 2024, 4:49 PM

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does anyone have any sort of pokemon fangaming/worldbuilding discord servers i could join?
specifically for talking about fangame making stuff and region-building stuff

lucid scarab Oct 14, 2024, 5:19 PM

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cloud quartz the pokemon legends za trailer supposedly

Wow this looks better than ScarVio graphics.
Jokes aside, the time gear literally deconfirms this trailer.

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 5:21 PM

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Though if it's fanmade, that's impressive

young cedar Oct 14, 2024, 5:31 PM

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looks nice

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 5:33 PM

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Also send help I'm still thinking about the thyphlosion story and feeling sad.
That one, if it had the gorier elements toned down, could actually have fit some game, honestly.

lucid scarab Oct 14, 2024, 5:42 PM

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I think it steps on the toes of Suicune's origins while also being genuinely uncomfortable

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 5:43 PM

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How so?
Other than the "genuinely uncomfortable" part, i can get that

lucid scarab Oct 14, 2024, 5:45 PM

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Suicune already did the whole "Hated by humans and killed" thing. The 3 legendary beasts were killed in a fire, resurrected by Ho-Oh, and the villagers feared them, throwing rocks at them until they fled. It's why they're always roaming.

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 5:45 PM

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But to me it just feels like an ancient fable and a reminder that pokemon and humans aren't/weren't that different once upon a time in history.

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 5:46 PM

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lucid scarab Suicune already did the whole "Hated by humans and killed" thing. The 3 legendar...

Wasn't the tower burnt by a storm tho. They were feared, sure, much like many others, but it feels like very different stories to me

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 5:47 PM

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proper iris But to me it just feels like an ancient fable and a reminder that pokemon and hu...

Anyway I can also see why they chose a completely different tale to explain this in the games, and why it was toned down even further in translation.

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To me that thyphlosion one feels a little "beauty and the beast but no power of love to save the beast", which is probably why i don't find it as uncomfortable as some people do.
Still a cool look into what they may have considered during production.

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 5:53 PM

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proper iris To me that thyphlosion one feels a little "beauty and the beast but no power of ...

My problem is it reads too cleanly. The leaks had to have been Japanese then translated to English. But it reads as clean as the average Creepypasta. Which is setting off some alarm bells on the authenticity

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 5:56 PM

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Honestly it reads a lot like the translated stuff I've seen before from the games themselves. The same "humans and pokemon used to marry" tale has a similar clarity when translated.

And there's the octillery tale which has no clarity whatsoever

lucid scarab Oct 14, 2024, 5:57 PM

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atomic orchid My problem is it reads too cleanly. The leaks had to have been Japanese then tra...

They're ripped straight from Greek mythology actually

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 5:57 PM

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lucid scarab They're ripped straight from Greek mythology actually

Yokai myths. Not Greek

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 5:57 PM

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Authentic or not, it doesn't really matter. It's not canon, it's not in game.

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If real, it's just something that was considered at some point

lucid scarab Oct 14, 2024, 5:57 PM

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atomic orchid Yokai myths. Not Greek

I could have sworn it was Greek. That's what people keep saying

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 5:58 PM

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And yet people are acting like their worldviews were shattered despite being a rejected thing

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 5:58 PM

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Not something they would have settled on

lucid scarab Oct 14, 2024, 5:58 PM

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I just know that it's basically just ctrl F and then replace real animals with Pokemon

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 5:58 PM

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Yeah basically that

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 5:58 PM

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lucid scarab I could have sworn it was Greek. That's what people keep saying

They said it sounds like Greek creation myths. I can tell you I’ve never seen anything close to that. And the Octillery one is very explicitly a Japanese myth

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 5:59 PM

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I think someone mentioned even what myth exactly the typh one is based on

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 5:59 PM

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lucid scarab I just know that it's basically just ctrl F and then replace real animals with P...

Just further casting doubts on the authenticity. I’m 99% sure the dude saw he had a terabyte or more of data, and decided to slip some outlandish stuff in there for shits. It was 4chan after all

unkempt egret Oct 14, 2024, 5:59 PM

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oh yea 4chan requires an entire ocean's worth of salt to take in

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 5:59 PM

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The Slakoth one reads like stories about Tanuki btw

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 6:00 PM

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But yeah. People are forgetting that (assuming it's all real) this is just a peek behind the curtains of production

unkempt egret Oct 14, 2024, 6:00 PM

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and that's before you consider the first step is figuring out which ocean

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 6:00 PM

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What people considered, not what is canon or what they really planned on adding

unkempt egret Oct 14, 2024, 6:00 PM

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(i haven't looked at the leaks I couldn't resist the ocean bit though)

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 6:00 PM

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I literally was just speaking to someone in another chat who needed to go into a therapy channel due to panic attacks over this info

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 6:01 PM

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It's like seeing a bunch of sketches that led to a finished artwork

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But are very very different and very messy compared to the finished thing

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 6:01 PM

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Btw. They found a bunch of fanmons in the beta images already

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 6:01 PM

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Ohohoh that'll be fun

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 6:01 PM

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And one that was traced back to AI generators

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 6:02 PM

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Time to hunt what's real and what's not

lucid scarab Oct 14, 2024, 6:02 PM

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To be fair, Game Freak has stolen fanmons before

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 6:02 PM

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I’m going to be switching drivers for the next few hours. Have fun!

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 6:03 PM

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Good luck with the drivers

atomic orchid Oct 14, 2024, 6:03 PM

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proper iris Good luck with the drivers

Car drivers

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 6:03 PM

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Oh, in that case, stay safe

unkempt egret Oct 14, 2024, 6:05 PM

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op, hope that goes well

lucid scarab Oct 14, 2024, 6:06 PM

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I don't see any proof about the fakemon/ai stuff

proper iris Oct 14, 2024, 6:07 PM

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lucid scarab I don't see any proof about the fakemon/ai stuff

I've seen mentions of it since yesterday in one of the big leak twitter accs

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With them crediting the original creators and all

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If the leak is real, it's not impossible someone just got them as placeholders or "This pokemon I'm working on is gonna be kiiiiinda like this one"
If the leak has fake elements, then that's the fake elements

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The date those sprites were created and the batch they're located will likely reveal which it is.

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Again, even if the stuff in these leaks is all 100% real, it's important to remember it's all works in progress.

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And placeholders

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And ideas

#other-pokemon-games

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