other-pokemon-games

[rugged comet]

A single play rough

[sweet crypt]

You should see what its rare egg move is

[proven geyser]

ohhh it's meant to be gold!! so purdy

[rugged comet]

give me those

Scary

ah I missed

for once

berry boost

[proven geyser]

char finally evolved i can use zard 🙏

[sweet crypt]

Why did Skyla use Explosion on Scizor with Drifblim

Isn't like

Any STAB move better

[rugged comet]

money or king rock

[proven geyser]

do u need money that badly

[sweet crypt]

Depends on if you're a gambling person or a "fuck it we ball" person

[rugged comet]

yes

[proven geyser]

you can for sure afford a sacred ash

[sweet crypt]

For once, I'll be using not Scizor

I got thrown into an active Volcano, which is exactly why I have Araquanid

Complete immunity to burns is nice, who could've guessed

[rugged comet]

https://tenor.com/view/gogogolisopod-golisopod-goatedgolisopod-gif-25159759

[sweet crypt]

Water Bubble usually means Araquanid will be doing absurd damage

But it's sunny rn

So that's a shame

[sweet crypt]

Wrong order and wrong Bug/Water type

[rugged comet]

do I steal multiple items with magician

[proven geyser]

yes

[rugged comet]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-be-taking-that-spongebob-patrick-star-robbery-burglar-gif-16207758

[sweet crypt]

Araquanid

• is near Mega Rayquaza's strength when using Water moves
• Resists Fire
• Is immune to Burns as a physical attacker
• Randomly gets given Swords Dance, Jet Punch and Aqua Step by the Pokerogue devs

It is easily the better option for covering Scizor's Fire weakness

[rugged comet]

I have so many items

[proven geyser]

they cooked w fire making the alolan bugs

[rugged comet]

That ursaluna don't look so good

[sweet crypt]

Ooh Blood Moon Ursaluna

[proven geyser]

funni blood bear

[rugged comet]

I already caught it once

[proven geyser]

har har harhar har

[sweet crypt]

Kill that mf you don't want to risk it

[rugged comet]

one shot it with lopunny

[sweet crypt]

Just Flower Trick its ass back to FNAF

[sweet crypt]

Or that

[rugged comet]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-bear-fast-funny-gif-21652027

[proven geyser]

[rugged comet]

fire lash with mult lens is great

hey wait

[proven geyser]

an r/stunfisk special

[sweet crypt]

Anyways I got Mega Scizor

[rugged comet]

nice boost for future runs

Wait i'm back in the meadow

[sweet crypt]

Alright, 165 Maxie

I will admit, while Maxie isn't the evil team leader I'm most afraid of, he sure as hell is the 2nd place

[rugged comet]

nearly gave my luxray a lum berry

[sweet crypt]

As prep, I got the Rain Dance TM and put it on Araquanid

Araquanid KOs everything except for Groudon, and leaves the feather rainy as it goes down

Scizor will clean up from here

Honestly, that went better than planned

[rugged comet]

easy choice

[sweet crypt]

W

Wild Keldeo

I already have Keldeo and it has no place on a Mono Bug run

It has been disposed of

Thankfully, I can use Swords Dance on Scizor as a get out of jail free card against a random Fire Oricorio mystery encounter

Even if I didn't have Scizor, Araquanid knows Aqua Step

And Swords Dance as well lol

Used my first truly resisted move on this run

[rugged comet]

thanks

[sweet crypt]

Bug Bite on Scizor vs A-Marowak

It died anyways

I knew it would

[rugged comet]

money

[sweet crypt]

I guess I should explain somewhat

Scizor's passive is motherfucking Tinted Lens

On a Pokemon with Double Iron Bash as an egg move

And Technician

And 130 Attack (150 if Mega)

That's how I straight OHKO Gmax Centiskorch with the 1st hit of DiB

I won't pretend that I expected to though

I wasn't even sure if 2 hits would KO

[unkempt egret]

pokerogue egg moves + passives in a shellnut

[rugged comet]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-bus-stop-angry-shouting-gif-5144560278104615828

I bet he thinks he's safe against a grass/dark with his bug

[sweet crypt]

I doubt Play Rough is enough to OHKO Kyurem

Especially since it is Snow Warning

[rugged comet]

bet

[sweet crypt]

And a boss

Jesus shit I just OHKOd an Unaware Dondozo with Scizor

I think it was unaware at least

Mainly because I remember OHKOing it with the first hit of DiB at +2

[rugged comet]

now we see

[sweet crypt]

And I am at +2

[rugged comet]

1 shield down

2 shot it

[sweet crypt]

So not an OHKO

[rugged comet]

I mena it used outrage so it did nothing to me

He hit me with iron head once

[sweet crypt]

Still not an OHKO, who cares about beating a Legendary everyone knows you need to do it in the most over the top way possible

[rugged comet]

night slash time

[proven geyser]

corviknight ironpress go brrrr

[sweet crypt]

Holy shit thank god Spectral Thief isn't fully implemented

Got the Gen 8 Elite 4, which I barely do

And Marnie straight up led with Spiritomb and immediately went for Spectral Thief

I'm lucky though

It could've gone for Foul Play

I'd be cooked

I just decided "fuck it we ball" despite it not being the best idea

[proven geyser]

the shady guy gave me 2 iron on my corv

body press really do go brrrrr

[sweet crypt]

Apart from that, Marnie went smoothly

[rugged comet]

luxray is on a mission

487 dmg

[sweet crypt]

Nessa has been slaughtered

With 0 problem

[rugged comet]

items

[sweet crypt]

Alright, first issue

Bea leads with Fire Tauros

I need to swap out

Araquanid W

[rugged comet]

hmm

Yeah I do it

[sweet crypt]

Araquanid is able to effortlessly clean up

[rugged comet]

scary

is what I would say if I was a liar

[sweet crypt]

I get an X Speed for any situations like against Bea

However, Raihan leads with Hisuian Goodra

I make a misplay against Archaludon

I should've used DiB to bypass Sturdy

But I didn't

Luckily, it went for Electro Shot like an idiot

I DiB the Tyrantrum as I saw it had 2 Focus Bands, but neither activate

Time for Leon

[rugged comet]

2nd time missing play rough this run

[sweet crypt]

He leads with Rillaboom and I get a Swords Dance as he swaps into Gmax Charizard, which I OHKO with DiB

Aegislash meets the same fate

I'm forced to swap to Bullet Punch for Dragapult, but go back to DiB for Flygon

If this sounds extremely simple and easy, that's because it is

Zacian is also taken out by Bullet Punch

[rugged comet]

lopunny one shots

[sweet crypt]

Rillaboom as well, but that one was because I couldn't be bothered to swap moves

[proven geyser]

mega lop not beating the GOAT allegations !!

[sweet crypt]

Mega GOAT

[rugged comet]

that has health?

[sweet crypt]

Scizor's better though fr

That probably isn't true if we aren't playing Pokerogue

But I refuse to believe that whatever Mega Lop gets outweighs fucking DiB

[rugged comet]

adaptability

passive

[proven geyser]

adaptability + mega scrappy 💅

[rugged comet]

I do not know this e4

[sweet crypt]

Tinted Lens

[proven geyser]

normal/fight is all you need bby

[sweet crypt]

What's that? You say Steel is a bad offensive type? Hey, you're right! What about we remove all its resistances

[rugged comet]

677 dmg

[proven geyser]

rika!!!

paldea e4

[sweet crypt]

They restrict Tinted Lens to shitmons for a reason

[rugged comet]

lopunny is sweeping

[proven geyser]

he usually does

[sweet crypt]

195 rival time

[rugged comet]

Swept rika

[sweet crypt]

Just as last time, Ivy swaps Empoleon out for Corviknight as I SD

[proven geyser]

fight handles his resists with normal, and hits ghosts with scrappy

[sweet crypt]

And once again, this is a massive error

[rugged comet]

also this is my money now

[proven geyser]

lop is such a goated mon, sucks hes usually seen as the furry mon

i want to pet the rabbit for exclusively normal reasons dammit

[rugged comet]

going to guess its a physical mon

[sweet crypt]

Scizor OHKOs Corviknight with the 1st hit of DiB upon reaching +6, and now it's over

Volcarona gets a Flame Body burn but I have lum berries

[rugged comet]

jump time

missed one

[sweet crypt]

I OHKO it with Bullet Punch, Empoleon with the first hit of DiB, Mega Ray with Bullet Punch, Garchomp with Bullet Punch and Oranguru with Bug Bite

There is simply nothing Ivy can do

She can't even play the game

[rugged comet]

Now the ghost would be scary

but

mega lopunny

[proven geyser]

SHUT UP LOSER !! SCRAPPY HJK!!

[rugged comet]

swept

so useful

[sweet crypt]

I try to stop having a heart attack, and attempt the Eternatus fight

[rugged comet]

missed 2 play roughs in a row

What happened to me

[proven geyser]

washed

[rugged comet]

wish I stole that

[sweet crypt]

Scizor ||tanks a Flamethrower, gets to +3 using berries and instantly sends Eternatus into Phase 2||

[rugged comet]

I do not know the paldea e4 types

well i do now

[sweet crypt]

||I swap Araquanid out for Ledian, and Eternatus uses Flamethrower on it, and it tanks. Scizor lived at +3 though, I believe||

[proven geyser]

ground, steel, flying(larry!!!), dragon

[rugged comet]

ground, steel, flying, dragon

[sweet crypt]

||Now it's a game of luck. I need to get Eternatus to not attack Scizor, and hope for it to stay asleep from Spore||

[proven geyser]

larry my beloved

[rugged comet]

who would win a dragon or a bunny

[proven geyser]

bnnuy moment

[rugged comet]

perfect for champ

Nemona

you die to fairy

missed play rough

[sweet crypt]

||It finally targets Scizor and KOs it, but not after a lot of HP is chunked of. I set up Screens, Spores, Bug Bites to eat stolen berries, Araquanid is sent out to try to finish the job||

[rugged comet]

wow I am washed up

[sweet crypt]

||Araquanid tanks all the hits Eternatus throws at it with ease, and KOs||

||G fucking G||

A

[proven geyser]

Y

[sweet crypt]

First try baby

[proven geyser]

finally vaccinated against miss pneumonia

[sweet crypt]

I won't lie, Ledian and Vivillon were definitely necessary to win there

I would not have won otherwise even if they spent the entire rest of the time rotting in the back

I found a use for Ledian's high special defence, guys

[rugged comet]

what items will ivy give me this time

[sweet crypt]

So to answer my question, yes, I can beat Pokerogue with Mono Bug

This is the first time ||Eternatus|| was a struggle since like

My first 5 runs

All it took was using a type that most would argue is the worst (Psychic is imo as bad, but it does have better Pokemon)

[proven geyser]

bug is good

[sweet crypt]

If I were to rank the team members by their usefulness, it'd be
1: Mega Scizor. Bro fucking annihilated everything with ease up to ||Eternatus||
2: Ledian. Did absolutely nothing until ||Eternatus|| where it kept it asleep for most of the battle, I wouldn't have won otherwise
3: Araquanid. Was essential for the one time I got thrown into the volcano and 165 Maxie
4: Vivillon. Light Screen came in clutch at the end
5: Combee. I forgot to evolve it but it landed one Spore so that's nice
6: Burmy. Luck fodder

Combee also ate some stolen berries

[proven geyser]

did you just turn off evos for comboo or something

[sweet crypt]

I kept it unevolved for so long for money

[proven geyser]

ahhh

[sweet crypt]

But forgot to turn it back on

Vespiquen might've been able to tank a hit

[proven geyser]

shes jus a lil lady

[rugged comet]

perfect

Broke past level cap with that

[sweet crypt]

If you level past 200, Eternabeam and Dmax Cannon do double damage

:/

[rugged comet]

oh

[proven geyser]

oh fuck lmao

[sweet crypt]

Simply don't get hit though

Also, you can't be hit for twice the damage if you can't be hit

You're weak to Poison anyways

[rugged comet]

now how much dmg do i deal

any guesses?

[sweet crypt]

I can see getting the instant Phase 2

[proven geyser]

return never works properly for me

[sweet crypt]

But more likely I think it'd do 2 bars

[rugged comet]

correct

[sweet crypt]

I wouldn't be surprised either ways

Getting to Phase 2 there or not can be pretty dependant on items tbh

Anyways, as a final thought for this run

While Prankster Spore Ledian saved my ass

I definitely think it should be nerfed

Because like

[rugged comet]

it's getting bullied

[sweet crypt]

Prankster Spore

[sweet crypt]

Is he using Dmax Cannon on Fairy types like usual?

He loves to do that

[rugged comet]

no

so far just 4 cross poisons

ha I can steal from it

6

cross poisons

get absolutely destroyed

[sweet crypt]

My average Eternatus run gets like 0-2 Pokemon KOd

[rugged comet]

Now I want to see the one with finn

[sweet crypt]

Had to restrict myself with Mono Bug for him to threaten me

Massive Eternatus L

[rugged comet]

egg

[sweet crypt]

I'll probably go back to normal runs now

I've been rolling on the shiny banner

Primarily because hatching shinies give a shitload of candy

But the luck is nice too ig

[rugged comet]

I think that might have been this run

neat

[sweet crypt]

I think my highest damage has had to have been by one of the set up sweepers I've used

That, or Miraidon, because Miraidon

I think I OHKOd Emax before

I cant remember who did that though

May be a fake memory

If it wasn't one though, I'm thinking it had to have been my Dusk Mane Necrozma run

[unkempt egret]

I'm pretty sure my highest damage was on chien pao during the endless spliced run I did hang on

[rugged comet]

ah there is my blood moon bear

[sweet crypt]

Oh right endless exists

Yeah no my highest damage was from endless

I didn't play it for long though I didn't find it fun even while playing normally

That said I had barely any egg moves and didn't know how to play optimally

[unkempt egret]

yeaaaaa

[sweet crypt]

And my only legendary egg mon was fucking Fraudialga

[unkempt egret]

also I assure you that its fun falls off a cliff once you get to wave 2000 and the enemy is suddently gaining 20% of their health every turn

[sweet crypt]

Good

Time to not play Endless

[rugged comet]

I wonder whats the record for endless

[unkempt egret]

the only positive is that it is the best way to get shinies if you're into those

[sweet crypt]

Endless isn't endless

[unkempt egret]

I believe endless kill-screens at some point in the 5k wave range?

[sweet crypt]

5850 I think?

[unkempt egret]

that sounds about right

[rugged comet]

ah

[sweet crypt]

I have people telling me I should definitely play Endless and that it is definitely fun

And then tell me about what sounds like the least fun experience ever

Yeah thanks, I'll pass

Should I do a run centering around Contrary Serperior?

I've only used it after getting it from the mystery event, and even then it was overshadowed by MSciz and Araquanid

Like I said, Msciz and Araquanid are extremely valuable Pokemon to have

And they're rather synergistic

[rugged comet]

egg

[sweet crypt]

By that, I mean Scizor shits on everything, including most Fire types, and the few fire types that it cannot handle are handled by Araquanid

:/

The only thing they can't do is 2v1 Eternatus

[rugged comet]

wow

[sweet crypt]

Give me a Pokemon to build around

I'll do it if I have it

[rugged comet]

mawile

[sweet crypt]

Time to fish for RNG

So here's the thing

Mega Mawile is one of the best Pokemon you can get

Regular Mawile is unplayable

[rugged comet]

yeah

[sweet crypt]

So my goal here will be to stack luck and pray to RNGesus

[rugged comet]

trying daily run

and 3 mons weak to fire

[sweet crypt]

This run definitely needs a secondary carry, preferably one that isn't weak to Ground

[rugged comet]

and the 2nd encounter has fire

[sweet crypt]

I think Serperior works well here

Especially since I have Blue Shiny Snivy

I still need something for Fire type, red shiny Lapras partially covers that but I'd rather have a more safe check

I don't want to use Azurill, as you need to constantly use it to make sure it isn't worthless for a long ass time

Maybe Mareanie could work

I still needs its HA too

With that though, I need something to take Toxapex down

I'll use Electrike for this

I call it Wish.com Miraidon for a reason

All of these Pokemon excluding Mawile have some level of shininess to try to please the RNG gods

[rugged comet]

this daily run is very hard

[sweet crypt]

Snivy is making quick work of early game with Contrary Make It Rain

Rival also has a Snivy

Hopefully hers won't get Flamethrower

[rugged comet]

forgot castform is like this

[sweet crypt]

Ngl that's pretty heat

I think I might try a Lopunny run after this

[sweet crypt]

Depending on if I feel lucky

Lopunny is another mon that is reliant on Mega Evolution

[proven geyser]

not really, my first win with a lop never got mega

he pulled his weight

[sweet crypt]

Damn

Oh god that's a sleeping snorlax

[proven geyser]

i like lopunny because it's a genuinely good pokemon and great concept for an evolution line

[sweet crypt]

That is terrifying

Do I fight it?

I dont have a stealing move

FUCK IT WE BALL

[rugged comet]

what item do you think a snorlax has

[proven geyser]

lefties duh

[rugged comet]

always worth it

[proven geyser]

i think lefties is like the "signature" item tbh

[rugged comet]

egg

shiny

green

[proven geyser]

puplip!!

[sweet crypt]

Alright, after sacrificing Mareanie and taking big damage on both Snivy and Mawile, I win

[proven geyser]

oh god the bottom makes it look plucked

oh hey wurmple is also max iv

[sweet crypt]

This dottler raised my SpA with Struggle Bug I love Contrary

Snivy has reached level 17 and evolved

[rugged comet]

I needed that speed earlier

[sweet crypt]

Ivy adds a Bouffalant to her team

Which is threatening early game

But I defeat it regardless

Is it me or does Druddigon's cry sound like some random guy screaming

Ivy gave me Black Glasses

My only Pokemon with a Dark move is Mareanie with Ceaseless Edge

I am going to die from misery

Wait that's not allowed

[rugged comet]

mawile can learn crunch if I'm not mistaken

[sweet crypt]

I dont have a reason to have Mawile learn crunch

Apart from a 20% boost

[rugged comet]

level 28

[sweet crypt]

But I'd rather have moves like primary STABS, Earthquake and priority in Bullet Punch

Having Serperior as my non Mega Mawile carry was a good call

Mega Mawile is too slow to benefit a lot of Carbos, and is a physical attacker that doesn't need Calcium

Both of which are great on a fast special attacker like Serperior

[graceful osprey]

I may be a bit late to playong this game

I played the sun demo

[sweet crypt]

Nah, it's fine, surely

YO I GOT THE TRAINING THING WAVE 29

[graceful osprey]

So I'm really curious if I get the ash greninja

Now I just gotta

Wait for the battery to come in

[graceful osprey]

My last 3ds battery got pregnant

I kept using it for like a month

[sweet crypt]

Mareanie is beaten half to death by Electric Surge Rising Voltage Electrike without any incident

[graceful osprey]

That sounds about right

[rugged comet]

You mentioned it and it appeared

[graceful osprey]

[sweet crypt]

Norman interrupts my celebrations with a Chansey

[graceful osprey]

I am a wizard

[sweet crypt]

After 1 Nasty Plot and 2 Rising Voltages, it goes down

[graceful osprey]

I was worried it would be a rom hack

[sweet crypt]

Thanks for the free EXP

[graceful osprey]

Cause the last ds game I bought online was a rom hack

for $20

Granted not everyone has access to a pc so

[sweet crypt]

Electrike zaps straight through Norman's Vigoroth's Amnesia boost with a crit

[graceful osprey]

Epic

[sweet crypt]

I feel bad

[graceful osprey]

Dont

It deserves it

[sweet crypt]

Alright here's a question

Leech Seed or Recover on Mareanie?

[rugged comet]

Ok i try this

[sweet crypt]

Usually, I wouldn't think much about this and instantly learn Recover

But it is important to know what kind of wall Toxapex is, and how Leech Seed works

Toxapex is a type of wall with low HP but insane defences

Leech Seed drains the opponent's HP and gives it to you

Such a move is incredibly synergistic with Toxapex

But Recover's reliability is far higher

I can afford to have both for now, but I plan to learn Tspikes later and it will be replacing one or the other

[rugged comet]

so uh no riolu can't do it

level 13

against 3 level 17s

[sweet crypt]

I didn't even think about this, but Manectric benefits heavily off high luck as well

Manectric becomes the true Wish.com Miraidon once it gets the mega stone

Currently it's like

DIY Miraidon

Except you don't have hands and legs, and are blind, and deaf

Was that unnecessarily rude? Perhaps, if so, my bad

But only if it was rude to people who don't have hands, legs, or are blind or deaf

I definitely intended for it to be rude towards Manectric

[rugged comet]

got to love skill link

now if I can get 2 kings rocks and a bunch of speed stuff

I win

[sweet crypt]

Because of how math works, you don't literally instawin with 2 kings rocks

[rugged comet]

It's close enough

[sweet crypt]

True

[rugged comet]

I don't think many things can beat it unless they out speed

[sweet crypt]

If you get unlucky and don't flinch

That's about it

But that's very unlucky

You'd have about a 67% flinch rate

So ykw not that unlucky

But still unlucky

[rugged comet]

ok 3 kings rocks

[sweet crypt]

About 82% now

I love how Kings Rock stacks with flinch moves

But only in Pokerogue

You can make DiB have an 84% flinch rate

[rugged comet]

getting there

think about it, I should get a wide lens or 3

[sweet crypt]

Make your guesses

When will I get Mega Mawile?

I'm guessing never

[rugged comet]

wave 47

if you get a mega bracelet

[sweet crypt]

I'm at 41, without the mega bracelet

[rugged comet]

hmm

[sweet crypt]

A grimer raised my speed with Mud Shot

Thanks Grimer!

[sweet crypt]

What are your Pokemon

[rugged comet]

Cinccino has HA, drizzile has HA

[sweet crypt]

Idk if getting new ability is worth it

[rugged comet]

this is

[sweet crypt]

Definitely

Was gonna say you should go for that instead

[rugged comet]

riolu

[sweet crypt]

Nice

Riolu evolves via friendship btw

[rugged comet]

ik

I did it in black 2

[sweet crypt]

It'd be a bit slow to do it by keeping it in the back

So try to use it whenever possible

Ofc, remember it only evolves during... Day I think?

It was day and not night right?

[rugged comet]

........

[sweet crypt]

Oh nice they gave Meloetta back Boomburst apparently

This is a massive Pokerogue W

[rugged comet]

it just spammed curse

[sweet crypt]

Tell him to stop swearing since this is a family friendly franchise

[rugged comet]

You thought you were scary

[sweet crypt]

Luck just cucked me

It transformed a rogue ball item into a master ball item

But I needed the mega ring...

Mawover

Nice, rival has Frigibax

This would be terrible if Serperior didn't have Make it Rain

Now it's great

[rugged comet]

This run might be a wipe

[sweet crypt]

Mine or yours

[rugged comet]

mine

[sweet crypt]

Because I don't feel confident about mine either

Even if I'm not struggling yet

It's like I paid 3 points for a scam

[rugged comet]

getting worse

ok got past wave 40

[sweet crypt]

Got a Modest Mint

But I don't have a use for it

Serperior prefers Timid

Though it really wants both

It both needs to capitalise on its high speed

And needs to patch up its disgusting base SpA

Hopefully Contrary can make up for the latter

Multi Lens

This should be good on a Pokemon whose gameplan is spam proccing itself with stat boosts

[rugged comet]

toxic idea, multi lens, skill link, kings rock

[sweet crypt]

HOLY SHIT MAWILE IS USEFUL IT HAS INTIMIDATE TO EXTORT THE KID

There is a flaw with Multi Lens

I think too many people overlook it

Your base damage output is made far worse with it

[rugged comet]

but with the toxic idea it doesn't matter

[sweet crypt]

Serperior definitely feels its effects if you aren't spamming Leaf Storm

Yes, even when spamming Make it Rain, my damage is notably worse

Oh

I just got the Baton

This run is turning around

In just 2 items

[rugged comet]

mine is wiping

[sweet crypt]

RIP

[rugged comet]

Whose bright idea was it to fight the mightiest opponent on wave 43

[sweet crypt]

Man, Serperior's base damage is really shit

Hopefully the Multi lens don't screw me over too much by lowering it even more

[rugged comet]

get something that lowers enemy stats and its great

[sweet crypt]

I'm using Make it Rain rn

But the damage weakening is very apparent

Problem should be less noticeable on Leaf Storm

[rugged comet]

hmm which shiny

[sweet crypt]

But it is obvious even on Make it Rain

And especially on non offence boosting moves

Worse comes to worse, I give Toxapex Acid Spray and give Multi Lens to it

That way, it gets 2 layers of Spikes at a time and can lower SpD by 4 stages in 1 turn

Sometimes it feels like people think Multi Lens lowers your damage per hit to 60% instead of by 60%

[rugged comet]

Yeah I realised that earlier

[sweet crypt]

Magnet for Manectric

Amazing

A crappily made Miraidon is still a Miraidon at heart

Even if it doesn't look like it

Manectric has carried my runs before

Leaf Storm obtained

If I get 1 more Multi Lens, I can max out my SpA in 1 turn while doing damage

[sweet crypt]

But is it worth it when it cripples my damage so much?

[brisk star]

What do you think of RBY?

[sweet crypt]

Incredibly glitchy mess

The type chart is glitched, stat drops are glitched, missing is glitched, multiple moves are glitched

Pretty funny to hear about competitively though

[brisk star]

True

RBY competitive is the most interesting competitive scene imo

GSC competitive is also pretty cool

[sweet crypt]

A lot of what makes RBY competitive interesting is the god awful balancing, painfully limited movepools and Pokemon pools and insane glitches

[brisk star]

At least RBY is a fun glitchy mess

[sweet crypt]

It kinda has a certain broken charm to it

That said it looks miserable to play

[brisk star]

Competitive or just the campaign?

[sweet crypt]

If I'm being honest, both

If I'm being dishonest uhh

Pretend I said nothing

[brisk star]

Im gonna be honest I love the Pokémon sprites from RBY

Mostly

Like Pidgey looks so ugly

[sweet crypt]

Gonna be honest, I don't care what anyone says, SV is the most fun I've had playing a mainline Pokemon game

[sweet crypt]

Listen, they don't have much to work with on Pidgey, alright?

It's just a generic bird

Which generic bird is better, Pidgey or Pidove?

[rugged comet]

so 1 dragon?

[sweet crypt]

I think I prefer Pidove

[sweet crypt]

At least it isn't the Johto Ghost challenge

[rugged comet]

actually there were no new dragons in gen 2

[sweet crypt]

Back to Pokerogue, mightiest Foe Cilan it seems

And I'm right

[brisk star]

Look at this handsome motherfucker

[sweet crypt]

Easily the best Gen 1 sprite imo

[brisk star]

There's also golbat

[sweet crypt]

Gen 1 Tentacruel's kinda peak

[brisk star]

Tentacruel is peak but golbat is my favourite

[sweet crypt]

Golbat's like you love it or hate it

Unless youre me

Then you don't care either ways

Cilan got destroyed and I got a mega bracelet

[brisk star]

It's so funny though

[sweet crypt]

Amazing

[rugged comet]

finally

trio complete

[brisk star]

Cilan is pathetic

[sweet crypt]

In his defence, Mono Grass isn't a very fun thing to run

You get like uhh

Ferrothorn

Uhhhh

[brisk star]

He sucked in the anime and he wasn't note worthy in bw

[sweet crypt]

Ferrothorn

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh

Amoonguss?

[brisk star]

He didn't even show up in b2w2

[sweet crypt]

Yeah that's about all I can think of at the top of my head for noteworthy grass types

[sweet crypt]

He does

But only post game

[rugged comet]

starters?

[sweet crypt]

Serperior

Uhhhh

[brisk star]

Oh yeah PWT right

[sweet crypt]

Venusaur in older gens+Mega Venusaur

Uhhhhhhhhh

Welp we ran out again

Rillaboom that's right rillaboom

That's like the best starter I'm an idiot

Meowscarada too

That's like what triple the number? That's good, if only it wasn't only 6

And you also have 1 (one) way to play around Fire types

Being Venusaur

Preferably Mega

But if your opponent is using a sun team or something then maybe Chlorophyll does something idk

[brisk star]

Which fan game are you talking about

[sweet crypt]

Currently? Base Pokemon

Grass is like a C tier type

[brisk star]

Oh lol

[sweet crypt]

Except Gamefreak isn't good at making Grsss types

[simple quartz]

We talking about Grass types being shit?

[brisk star]

Venusaur is good

I like victorybell

[sweet crypt]

Venusaur is good... in older generations, and as Mega

Competitively I mean

Ig base Venusaur still sees some usage in VGC

That's like about it for recent success

[brisk star]

Why did they get rid of mega evolution?

[simple quartz]

It's very hard for me to visualize how to improve on Grass without inadvertenly shitting on other types tbh

[sweet crypt]

I dunno

[rugged comet]

luckily we see more in ZA

[simple quartz]

So many types are hard carried by the fact they're effective to Grass

[brisk star]

Is bug better than grass?

[sweet crypt]

Grass is like a low C tier imo

Bug is like a D tier

[simple quartz]

You take the effectiveness to Grass on even Bug and now Bug is like maybe the worst thing

Or Flying, now Flying can only work on two types so basically Psychic

It is a terrible thing to be a Grass enjoyer in the modern days 😔

[brisk star]

What types are the highest in viability

[simple quartz]

Water does fkin nothing and gets everything meanwhile

[sweet crypt]

Fairy, Steel, Water, Ghost, Ground, stuff like that

Steel doesn't have a low number of weaknesses, or insignificant weaknesses, no

[simple quartz]

Steel has some honor of being very pisspoor offensively at least

[sweet crypt]

It just has a massive shitton of resistances

[simple quartz]

Which contributes to Fairy being so nonsensical

I maintain that the best way to knock Fairy down is just making Normal effective against it and also resists it

[brisk star]

How come most psychic types can learn electric moves

[sweet crypt]

The best defensive types are all part Steel

[sweet crypt]

C'mon, give them something

Psychic type is already low tier garbage

[simple quartz]

It's been ages since Gen 2 so yknow what

[sweet crypt]

At least let its victims have coverage

[simple quartz]

Psychic should be effective to Steel now

[brisk star]

Psychic is bad now?

[unkempt egret]

imo, possibly a hot take: I think steel needs to be nerfed much more than fairy atm

[sweet crypt]

True honestly

[sweet crypt]

Ever since Gen 1 it has been going downhill

Honestly as of right now I consider it a D tier type

[unkempt egret]

since fairy feels more like an anti-meta type while steel resists over half the types

[simple quartz]

I think Steel Fairy and Water needs to be nerfed

[brisk star]

I don't keep up with modern competitive

[sweet crypt]

And the only one alongside Bug

[unkempt egret]

I agree with water too lol

[simple quartz]

All three of them are having it good for too long (well Water moreso but yknow)

I don't wanna hate on the Pokemons or anything I love the Pokemons (Azumarill my beloved) but as a type it is incredible how its just

[brisk star]

I knew It got nerfed but I didn't It's so bad now

[simple quartz]

Literally best at everything

[sweet crypt]

Bug makes sense being bad its meant to be a type that somewhat works in early game but is bad everywhere else

[unkempt egret]

also psychic's biggest problem is the PSS split messed it up hard in addition to ghost getting better and better in each gen and both dark and bug have a lot of moves used in spite of their typing that just so happens to be SE against it (pursuit, knock off, and U-turn most notably)

[sweet crypt]

Why is Psychic so ass

It's either the most abundant or 2nd most abundant type amongst legendaries and mythicals

[brisk star]

Karma from dominating gen 1

[unkempt egret]

basically gen 9 steel is roughly where gen 1 psychic was, imo

[simple quartz]

Nowadays Psychic type Pokemons that are good are good despite being Psychic

[unkempt egret]

and gen 9 ghost is roughly where gen 1 normal was

[sweet crypt]

Normal dominated Gen 1 about equally hard

[simple quartz]

Espathra could be literally any other type and it would be rightfully at Ubers or smth now

[brisk star]

Isn't paradox misdreavus Uber?

[sweet crypt]

It is a lot worse now

But it isn't like D tier bad

[unkempt egret]

paradox missy D is fairy/ghost yea

and that's mostly off having 135 offense and speed rofl

[sweet crypt]

I fucking hate Flutter Mane

But I've explained why already

[unkempt egret]

on top of having the anti meta type and one of the best neutral types in the game

[simple quartz]

I mean incidentally Fairy is also just a damn good defensive type too for some reason

[unkempt egret]

fairy I see as an anti-meta type more than anything

[sweet crypt]

There is no doubt in my mind that Ghost/Fairy is one of the best types in the entire game, period

[unkempt egret]

good on paper and its good users really pop off but it tends to struggle when not given a good spotlight

[brisk star]

It's funny how delibird and misdreavus are Uber when they sucked in gen 2

[unkempt egret]

actually now that I think about it, Ground is kind of the same thing

[simple quartz]

Not in the Steel way of resisting everything but just moreso that you started realizing Steel is somehow resisted by types you wouldn't think of and Poison being resisted by surprising amount of types as well

[unkempt egret]

in terms of the highs hitting really high and the lows not standing out

[simple quartz]

Ehhhhh Ground is more balanced by virtue of Flying existing and also Levitate

[sweet crypt]

Steel is just insane defensively and needs a nerf

[brisk star]

I know fairy is already pretty busted

[simple quartz]

Of course it would also help if more types resist Ground as well besides Grass and Bug????

[sweet crypt]

I feel like the top 3 defensive types are all Steel

Like Steel/Grass, or Steel/Fairy

[simple quartz]

As a very funny comedy Steel/Fairy is also just kind of a busted type combo

All of Fairy's weaknesses is nothing with Steel

[brisk star]

How bad is the power creep in gen 9, I haven't played it

[sweet crypt]

There's like 25 or so bans and people still find the metagame unbalanced

[simple quartz]

I'm just gonna make a quick chart on my balancing idea for Steel hold on

[unkempt egret]

imo

[sweet crypt]

Also a new mechanic allowed a Pokemon to get quickbanned from Ubers in like 1 week

[unkempt egret]

I highly doubt any gen 9 singles format will ever be balanced no matter how many adjustments get made

[sweet crypt]

I cant say Gen 9 Doubles sounds balanced to me either

[simple quartz]

Steel
Offensive
1/2x: Electric, Fire
2x: Fairy, Ice, Rock
Defensive
1/2x: Bug, Dragon, Flying, Fairy, Ghost, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Water
2x: Fight, Fire, Ground, Psychic```

[sweet crypt]

Damn, Steel not weak to Electric despite Water being weak to Electric

Sad

[brisk star]

Gen 9 looks boring in both competitive and singleplayer imo

[unkempt egret]

I dunno if it is but 4v4 doubles feels a lot more intended than singles does nowadays considering there are things like last respects and zero to hero that make no sense in literally any other format

[sweet crypt]

Idk, I'd say Gen 9 is the most fun I've had in singleplayer

[unkempt egret]

yea gen 9 single player's fine

[simple quartz]

Ehhhh idk about being weak to Electric I think Electric being neutral is fair enough

[sweet crypt]

Gen 9 competitive isn't boring imo, it's just pain

[unkempt egret]

imo about gen 9 single player:

it's a boss rush game since the normal trainers are optional

which I find kinda refreshing in a way?

[simple quartz]

With Steel weak to Psychic it'll change everything for the better imo

[brisk star]

That makes sense, the story and region doesn't interest me

[simple quartz]

Plus you might notice I made Water and Steel not resist Steel anymore

Speaking of Water

[sweet crypt]

The story of SV is its strong suit when comparing to other Pokemon games

When not comparing to Pokemon games uhhh

It's like alright

[brisk star]

So like gen 1

[simple quartz]

Water
Offensive
1/2x: Dragon, Grass, Poison, Steel, Water
2x: Fire, Ground, Rock
Defensive
1/2x: Fire, Water, Ground
2x: Electric, Grass, Poison, Ice

[sweet crypt]

Gen 1 was half pain due to glitches and half pain due to bad balancing

Gen 9 is pain simply due to bad balancing

[simple quartz]

If they can have Freeze Dry for Water for Ice types I think it's overdue for Ice to just be effective against Water in general

[brisk star]

I just hate the school premise

[simple quartz]

Make Freeze Dry deal quad damage or smth idc

[unkempt egret]

tbh

[sweet crypt]

You can spend like 1% of your time in school

[unkempt egret]

if I was in the mood for pain then I'd play gen 7 for the enemy EVs

[sweet crypt]

And then just give 0 shits

[brisk star]

Isn't gen 9 poorly balanced

[unkempt egret]

(I like gen 7 but it will absolutley wring you through like a towel that just came out of the washing machine if you aren't prepared)

[sweet crypt]

I mentioned that already

[brisk star]

No actual clothing options though :(

[sweet crypt]

It's not as big as a problem if you're playing casually since Pokemon AI will never be difficult

[brisk star]

True

[unkempt egret]

ROFL I was gonna go into gen 7 but my brain just went into Daft Punk mode

[brisk star]

The only reason I can't beat lance rn is my team being underleved

[sweet crypt]

There's also Geeta just going "I'm not holding back" only to play like shit, then play better afterwards like tf you mean "not holding back"

[unkempt egret]

(exact quote: "enemy pokemon in alola are bigger, faster, harder, stronger")

[sweet crypt]

What is Geeta's fucking definition of not holding back

[unkempt egret]

I mean geeta's about as much of a Final Boss as Alder is

any time a Champion isn't the Final Boss it tends to throw people off lol

[sweet crypt]

I mean you only fight Alder post game

[unkempt egret]

...which I think is acutally only in B/W, gen 7 by technicality, and gen 9

[sweet crypt]

Iirc

[brisk star]

Geeta is the worst champion

[unkempt egret]

because she's not lol

Nemona's the real champion

[sweet crypt]

She is

It's just that there are multiple champions

[unkempt egret]

gameplay wise she's not I don't care what the lore says rofl

[sweet crypt]

I think I like champion being a class instead of just being a one only

Though it's not really too big of a difference either ways

[unkempt egret]

I can see that but I still think her team's fine for being a not-final boss, it's mostly that people just want to see Glimmora and Kingambit put in their proper spots team-wise

[sweet crypt]

I just missed 2 Leaf Storms in a row

Wait that's still not allowed in this server

[unkempt egret]

...and also skeledirge existing but that's most of gen 9's bosses

[tiny bridge]

floor 124 and i already have this monster who can almost fully heal with one good oblivion wing

pokerogue is so balanced

[sweet crypt]

Skedirge is honestly just insanely strong for playthroughs

Honestly all the Gen 9 starters are at the very least good for a playthrough in terms of performance

Meowscarada is probably the least effective in a playthrough since a lot of what makes it good is Protean

[rugged comet]

Protean is fun

[sweet crypt]

It also is a bit more reliant on TM moves than the other starters

[rugged comet]

Messes with the ai a lot

[brisk star]

It's the funniest

[sweet crypt]

Protean no longer fucks the AI

Due to only activating once per switch in

Well it still does just not permanently

[rugged comet]

Fucks with their ai in pokerouge so

You can force the AI to waste turns swapping

[tiny bridge]

it also has 3 leftovers

[simple quartz]

To be real with y'all for a second

Also the best aesthetically

[sweet crypt]

Greninja was top tier in one gen OU and banned in another, Cinderace was banned in just 1 gen

[sweet crypt]

Incredibly based

[simple quartz]

Like there's not a single thing in Gen 9 starters that are a miss

I mean maybe the starter abilities but yknow who cares that's tradition

The real heat is in HA and everyone of them is packing some real heat

[proven geyser]

jus realized corviknightd blue shiny is not gold but a pretty pink, i have a very very strong warm color filter on my laptop to protect my eyes and it fucks with color

in pokerogue

[sweet crypt]

Yknow I think outside of competitively being slaughtered by mons like Iron Bundle, Flutter Mane, Chi-Yu etc, Gen 9 might have my overall favourite roster

[simple quartz]

I don't really think of competitive viability when it comes to best starters (although it greatly helps)

[sweet crypt]

My biggest issue for it is that while it has a lot of Pokemon I'd put close to the top, it also has above average number of Pokemon I'd put at the bottom

[simple quartz]

Otherwise Gen 3 would've been the best starters for me (they are but yknow Gen 9 is just built different)

[proven geyser]

competitive dowsnt matter i want a stupid idiot fuck

[brisk star]

What is the funniest strategy in Pokémon

[sweet crypt]

Most of my picks are completely uninfluenced by Competitive

[simple quartz]

And hell if I care that much about competitive I would not get down with Johto as my nostalgia bait region (Chikorita line my beloved)

[proven geyser]

fat fucks

[proven geyser]

pp stall with fat bastards

[brisk star]

I just use the Pokémon I like

[proven geyser]

all the mons i like are fat bastards

[sweet crypt]

That said, I can't exactly say I hate Flutter Mane as much as I do only because of design

[simple quartz]

One of these days the Johto starters will get their forced competitive viability moment like Charizard and those two other starters

One day...

[sweet crypt]

That'd put it in C tier

[simple quartz]

[brisk star]

Snorlax

[sweet crypt]

No, what pushes it over the edge is not just Competitive but also the massive Flutter Mane glazing

[proven geyser]

loke gastrodon and primarina

primarina is a special tank hea fat as hell

[sweet crypt]

I've asked once, I'll ask again, how tf do people think THIS is the most creative Paradox Pokemon?

Am I missing something?

[brisk star]

I just like the fact that misdreavus is getting some attention

[proven geyser]

people pretend they like flutter but really its the fact its a busted ass ghsot fairy

[simple quartz]

I feel like they're clearly trying to sell the Jigglypuff Paradox more but like

Welp

It ain't happening for sure now

[sweet crypt]

I'm gonna be completely transparent, I think Flutter Mane is the least creative Paradox Pokemon

Iron Jugulis who?

[proven geyser]

i dont anybody says its creative

[sweet crypt]

I see a lot of them

[proven geyser]

theyre lying, they like it because it's broken as fuck and banned in most formats

[simple quartz]

I haven't seen anyone saying Flutter Mane is creative

[sweet crypt]

That said I spend a lot of time browsing YouTube, YouTube has the most undercooked opinions ever

[simple quartz]

I don't even know what angle it could be lmao it's just Misdreavus but with a longer hair and a 9-5 Mismagius dayworker eyes

[sweet crypt]

They shoved their food into an oven but forgot to plug in the switch

[brisk star]

That's because a lot of Pokémon YouTube is kinda boring

[simple quartz]

What I have seen however is hot takes online being like "Paldean Bugs is the peak of Bugs in Pokemon nothing contests it"

Like ooooooooookaaaayyyyyyyyyyy

[sweet crypt]

Gens 5 and 7

[proven geyser]

bro alola and unova are right there

[simple quartz]

I think those bugs are okay but ranking it above Alola and especially Unova feels extremely sacrilegious

[sweet crypt]

That's all I'm gonna say

That's all I'm gonna say

I can see 3rd place

[proven geyser]

volcarona literally exists

[simple quartz]

No yknow what I'm gonna put my foot down

[sweet crypt]

But 1st and 2nd place is just

[brisk star]

we have heracross and people think paldean bugs are peak?

[simple quartz]

Vivillon by itself is better than like all of the Paldean Bugs

[unkempt egret]

I like how one of my takes that started off room temperature but started getting hotter for reasons I'm not sure is leafeon > glaceon lol

[sweet crypt]

The rare Vivillon enjoyer, I respect it

[unkempt egret]

vivillon's fine

[sweet crypt]

Vivillon is the best butterfly (moths not included)

[proven geyser]

viv is a cool concept and collecting them in GO can be fun sometimes

[sweet crypt]

(In my opinion)

[simple quartz]

I just don't believe anyone who'd say Paldean bugs are peak thinking back cuz like

In what way

Iron Moth and the past Paradox Volcarona ain't shit compared to the OG either so

[proven geyser]

lokix scrambled their brain

[sweet crypt]

Butterfree is completely carried by nostalgia, its Gmax is pretty though

[proven geyser]

moth isnt bug tho

???

it doesn't count

[sweet crypt]

Don't get me wrong, Iron Moth and Slither Wing are some of my favourite Pokemon

That said, Volcarona no diffs

[unkempt egret]

actually my bad there's my hot bug take

[simple quartz]

Bro I have seen people trying to sneak in the Paradox Volcaronas into the Paldean bug is peak discourse

[unkempt egret]

slither wing isn't paradox volcarona, it's paradox larvesta, and that's perfectly fine.

[sweet crypt]

Iron Moth isn't a bug type

[simple quartz]

[sweet crypt]

Is it a robot that resembles a moth or a cyborg moth

[proven geyser]

slither is bug, moth isnt

[sweet crypt]

We need to know

[simple quartz]

Like you guys ain't sneaky they ain't it

[proven geyser]

its fire poison

its not a bug dude

[simple quartz]

I don't even see the hype in Lokix

Pangoro and Shiftry did the scoundrel theme better

[sweet crypt]

I can see why people would be hyped about it

[proven geyser]

lokix dominates uu format currently

[sweet crypt]

That said, I don't like it that much

[simple quartz]

Oh competitive

[unkempt egret]

OH RIGHT my other bug take:

[simple quartz]

Eh it's giving Ambipom vibes from how I've seen people talk about it

[proven geyser]

thats the only reason anyone gives a fuck abt kix

[sweet crypt]

If you wanna talk competitive, Volcarona and Genesect.

[unkempt egret]

drapion should be bug/dark, not poison/dark because it's more accurate to IRL scorpions

[sweet crypt]

That's it

[simple quartz]

Yeah basically Ambipom

[unkempt egret]

since the larger ones generally fight more with brute force than poisons

[sweet crypt]

Genesect and Volcarona are like top 3 best Bug types in competitive

Pheromosa is like also top 3 imo

[simple quartz]

Yeah but they also fuck aesthetically

Maybe too literally with Pheromosa but yknow

[proven geyser]

BUZZ BUZZ BUZZ (BUZZWOLE)

[simple quartz]

[sweet crypt]

We also got stuff like Buzzwole and Scizor, one of which being another Gen 7 mon

[proven geyser]

i LOVE buzzwole hes oretending to be jacked as shit and hes basically a tide pod

[rugged comet]

https://tenor.com/view/pheromosa-bewear-punch-oof-gif-27434920

[simple quartz]

I just know with all my soul and heart even Vikavolt would no diff all the Gen 9 Bugs

[sweet crypt]

Mega Scizor>Scizor=Lokix in Competitive imo

[simple quartz]

Mosquito Queen lookin' ass

[proven geyser]

alola has such spectacular bugs

golisopod was such a good boi they had to give him the most shitmon ability

[sweet crypt]

Also, Scizor is just better than Lokix (also opinion)

[simple quartz]

IF will fix it dw

Just like they fix Regigigas and Slaking

[rugged comet]

https://tenor.com/view/gogogolisopod-golisopod-goatedgolisopod-gif-25159759

[simple quartz]

[sweet crypt]

Golisopod's immense physical bulk is about as confusing as Araquanid's immense Special bulk

Hey, they're both Gen 7 Water/Bug types

[proven geyser]

hes literally a samurai look at him

he has plate armor how the hell are you confused

[sweet crypt]

Idk it only really has plate armour on its back iirc

[proven geyser]

look at the gif bro just posted

[sweet crypt]

And it doesn't exactly pull a Mega Sceptile or something and always have its back faced towards the enemy

[simple quartz]

Much like real life samurais often run away when the real shit happens, Golisopod runs when it sees the most insane shit coming up on it

[proven geyser]

well i didnt say he was a GOOD one

[sweet crypt]

It does exit with a sense of emergency though

Maybe it just turns around quickly whenever it is about to be hit or something

BTW, about Pokerogue, I can't fucking believe this but I got Mega Mane before Mega Mawile

[proven geyser]

or guards w his arms

[rugged comet]

https://tenor.com/view/gogogolisopod-golisopod-goatedgolisopod-gif-25159763

[sweet crypt]

I hate this

[rugged comet]

Wow

[sweet crypt]

Well

At least the run probably is a guaranteed W now

[proven geyser]

git the OG mirai

[sweet crypt]

Pokerogue done give the dog Electric Surge

It is truly Wish.com Miraidon now

[proven geyser]

wish is so mean

[sweet crypt]

Tbf it came first, so it's like someone bought it from wish then rebuilt it to be better

[proven geyser]

dollar store is nicer

bc theres decent stuff there

[sweet crypt]

OK, Mega Mane is dollar store Miraidon

[rugged comet]

Mega manetric walked so miraidon could run

[sweet crypt]

But like base Manectric definitely doesn't count as decent in battle

That said this one does have Electric Surge and Rising Voltage

And Rising Voltage is Rising Voltage

I might stop putting the tierlist off and finish it

I have just part of Gen 9 to finish ranking

So close to the end

[rugged comet]

Starting to work on getting the end screen with him

[sweet crypt]

Is Finn supposed to be like a water-y name

If so, where is the fire rival

[twilit lodge]

Can anyone suggest a fan game that has megas/other forms that is completed?

[rugged comet]

Forgot how his dialogue is tbh

He wants to win

Team star are my "evil" team this time

[hard plume]

Funny thing:
Emergency Exit is just Wimp Out but with a different name.

[hard plume]

Finn

As in

Fish

[sweet crypt]

Ok so where is the fire

[hard plume]

idk man

[sweet crypt]

Are we supposed to be the fire? What is our canon name even?

[hard plume]

Would be down for an Ember or a Flint

[sweet crypt]

I have finally completed the Pokemon tierlist

If you want to see the details, zoom in via discord or maybe even download the image to zoom in then. A lot of these placements are so close that they can change quickly. Yes, i did rank them within tiers, and it was a terrible mistake which was the main reason it took many multiple months.

There is no official criteria I'm mostly just going off gut feeling

[meager charm]

someone here plays magic?

discover of 4

[untold hill]

hahahaha

[brisk star]

What is this based on?

[unkempt egret]

i lost it at

[sweet crypt]

Opinion

Just straight opinion

[brisk star]

Oh neat

[sweet crypt]

Did you see how many fucking Alcremies there are?

[brisk star]

Where did you put my favourite typhlosion

[sweet crypt]

Did the "WHY ARE THERE 2 SALAZZLES" thing stick I forgot

I think I originally had Mega Lopunny in A tier because I was afraid I'd be publicly executed for putting it higher

I eventually decided "Fuck it, we ball"

But yeah, being a Pokemon fan with an opinion is terrifying

I never feel safe when talking about my opinions on Pokemon

[sweet crypt]

Which typhlosion is your favourite typhlosion

[vernal garnet]

aaa not even downloading it fixes the horrid resolution

[sweet crypt]

Fr? It fixes it for me

[vernal garnet]

hmmm

odd

[sweet crypt]

Well you can somewhat see the shape of the Pokemon

And colour

And can probably guess what it is

Typhlosion-H is somewhere between the top third and middle third of B tier, base Typhlosion is in a similar spot in A tier

[vernal garnet]

i see latios, runnic conkeldurr, eye of cthulu, barraskewda(?), sideways ironn thorns, ??????????,

ayy slither wing in a?

cannt tell what the tier is

[sweet crypt]

Holy shit, Eye of Cthulhu?

Where?

[vernal garnet]

yeah x-x

1st in 2nd highest tier

[sweet crypt]

I need Shield of Cthulhu ASAP

[vernal garnet]

kinda looks like retinazer tho

[sweet crypt]

The top 3 tiers are all considered S tier mons

[vernal garnet]

ooo nice

meloetta a pog

[sweet crypt]

Just that the top 2 tiers highlight what was my top 6 before I started making the tierlist, and what is now my top 6 favourites, most of which share a placement

[vernal garnet]

shaymin is too low

roserade is s tier

[sweet crypt]

Tbf I did redownload a smaller version of the tierlist

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As in, you think it is S tier or I put it in S tier

Because I definitely put Roserade in high B tier

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i think its s iter

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Fair

A lot of high B tier placements are mons I can see in other people's S tiers

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cant tell if thats diancie or not