anyone know any other good pokemon games on mac
#other-pokemon-games
snow yarrow
coarse estuary
idk if you can play it on mac or not but xenoverse is good one
graceful osprey
naive timber
i swear isnt ultra moon and moon the same games just ultra moon has a better post game and more features
i was hoping for ultra sun and moon to actually be a sequel to sun and moon
tight granite
wraith musk
unkempt egret
imo: ultras have a worse plot and climax but higher difficulty and more QoL all around, they're about equal for me but playing both will make the second one feel FAR worse than the first one you play in a pair regardless of which one you start with
brisk hedge
I think that USUM ended up being hated for 2 reasons:
#1: People thought they were going to be sequels rather than a third and fourth version
#2: They were released less than a year after sun and moon (by a day)
sly ginkgo
they kind of got the reputation the gen 5 games got
thought they were bad, but in hindsight they were pretty epic
i doubt anyone was expecting fucking Ultra Necrozma
wraith musk
my rattata was
unkempt egret
yea ultra necro is a boss that's borderline unfightable on an even level, you basically need cheese to deal with it (hence why I say SM's climax is better for me)
clear dew
proven geyser
these lying fuckers, said galar wheezing can be used in gen 1 and it can't i'm so pissed
i ruined my damn challenge because weezing was a starter
i wish it evolved earlier in the rival fight so i could safely test and reload but no
im doing an inverse now
sly ginkgo
these lying fuckers, said galar wheezing can be used in gen 1 and it can't i'm s...
eh?
proven geyser
pokerogue
proven geyser
i literally just evolved a koffing into galar tho
sly ginkgo
ah
proven geyser
i was mad because galar weezing specifically can't be used in a monogen involving gen 1
so anyone who claimed it and the alolan forms could were liars
sly ginkgo
i see...
proven geyser
at least the training event got hidden ability for weedle, so i can have sniper instead of swarm
sly ginkgo
maybe they thought it was true but never tried it themselves
people tend to be like that
proven geyser
no, people had claimed that they've used the forms for relvant challenges
sly ginkgo
wack
proven geyser
maybe the info was outdated, but it's annoying
i should have tested it on a dud run first
sly ginkgo
I probably just don't have a complete understanding of how the challenges work
is it self enforced or something that's part of the game?
proven geyser
an option to check on after winning wave 200 in the main "story"
sly ginkgo
oh
proven geyser
then it takes the guesswork out and prevents you from switching into the pokemon, and considers it a loss if all your allowed mons are dead, even if the wrong mons are alive
things like passive luck or pickup/honey gather no longer function on unallowed pokemon during these challenges
you can still catch them to add total IVs, abilities, and natures to your "starter" versions, but can't be used
sometimes if you don't have a full party yet, catching a pokemon with an item you need, moving it, then releasing the mon is just easier
rugged comet
Leave me alone this is the second time I've met you this run
proven geyser
i wish the bug guy would bother me on a mono bug
he didn't blink at my red shiny ribombee
i think my nonbeenary is very cool 
rugged comet
Leave me alone this is the second time I've met you this run
The options are ||randomize team and typings|| or ||Lose levels||
proven geyser
thats awful
rugged comet
It is
proven geyser
like the ||pokemon themselves are shuffled, plus types?||
rugged comet
like the ||pokemon themselves are shuffled, plus types?||
Yes
proven geyser
yeesh
rugged comet
#other-pokemon-games message This is what happened when I did it in another run
proven geyser
ew ew ew omfg
sly ginkgo
Leave me alone this is the second time I've met you this run
I thought that said "I have seen your pants"
proven geyser
"jorts are a horrible look on you"
sly ginkgo
LMAO
proven geyser
does. phione evolve in this game
stupid question but i haven't seen any manaphy yet
guess not according to wiki
so weird
proven geyser
"get fucked six ways from sunday or get fucked"
proven geyser
im trying to see if any dragon types actually benefit from inverse types
so far it's lookin grim
rugged comet
Forgot the image of in battle
proven geyser
funnily enough dragon/psychic has 6 weaknesses, 6 neutral, and 6 resist
i just moved the selection to dewpider and saw water bubble
i keep forgetting that absorb or resist abilities give the resists back
in inverse dewgong has quad weak to ice and weak to fire, thick fat makes ice a regular weak and fire a neutral
i keep forgetting this shit
so thick fat dewgong in inverse has four resists and two normal weaknesses
rugged comet
that certainly was a guzma fight
proven geyser
guzma my boy
proven geyser
prepare for savescum
oh my bad i had water bubble selected when checked type matchups for dewgong
ice becomes regular weak and fire, already neutral, turns into a resist
assuming abilities work correctly
lightningrod on marowak is tempting ngl, but i have so many good recoil egg moves that i'd rather run rock head
rugged comet
prepare for savescum
Me save scum, nah I live with the consequences of my actions
proven geyser
i'd like to but i'm just too angry at bullshit AI to let it slide
different funs for different folks
rugged comet
Like these 2 runs where greed made me lose
proven geyser
YIKES
tempted to add miltank bc thick fat adds more resists and scrappy kinda useless in inverse
and i used snorlax already
sweet crypt
They got a lucky freeze on me with their unnerve mon
Average Pokemon experience honestly
rugged comet
They got a lucky freeze on me with their unnerve mon
It did make me realize I've underestimate unnerve in this
xp be so good this early
proven geyser
ohhh hisui lilligant now needs a shiny stone, same w raichu alola
rugged comet
Good to know
rugged comet
Well I know what I don't do
proven geyser
be friendly nd say hi!
rugged comet
||You never Fuckle with Shuckle||
proven geyser
real
sweet crypt
I would definitely fuckle with the shuckle
rugged comet
sweet crypt
Jesus fuck
rugged comet
proven geyser
YEEEEEEOUCH
sweet crypt
OK so who got buffed and who got nerfed
rugged comet
Everyone got buffed and I think it said my first 2 got nerfed
And then buffed
It might have lied
because all of them have the shuckle blessing
sweet crypt
Alright it buffs all your Pokemon except the ones that got nerfed according to the wiki
rugged comet
But all of them have the shuckle juice
sweet crypt
Not sure how they'd code that
sweet crypt
Maybe they nerfed the BST by 25 instead of 15
So that it balances out to 15
It always nerfs the strongest 2
That's very rough ngl
Looking at the wiki data, it doesn't seem too bad
To fight I mean
That said, I always use Scizor with DiB
So like
:/
proven geyser
maybe not in endgame
sweet crypt
This mf got DoT for days
That makes sense, Shuckle does jack shit with direct damage
sweet crypt
i know damage over time but wtf is wib
Double Iron Bash
A 60 BP move that hits twice with a 30% flinch chance on each hit
Does Gastro Acid effect Steel types?
It is a Poison move but it is also a status move
If it doesn't, that's a 180 BP Super Effective STAB move from 130 Attack
If it does, I just swap out to get Technician back first
rugged comet
Wonder if I can transfer the blessing
nope
Can it be stolen by covet/thief/abilities
rugged comet
probably
naive timber
why is there so much spoilers images lol
proven geyser
because some people hate spoilers for new features?
naive timber
on what game?
naive timber
idk lol
proven geyser
proven geyser
that makes zero sense tho
naive timber
just forget it
rugged comet
And then buffed
I wonder if evolving fixed the stats
rugged comet
She made sure I don't forget
sweet crypt
They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
proven geyser
hers was one level above but mine had a carbos 
sweet crypt
But I highly doubt you like Whitney considering how much I hear people talk about how she should die
So I guess that proves that wrong
proven geyser
wdym question mark
sweet crypt
People really be getting mad over a fictional character beating them up
rugged comet
People really be getting mad over a fictional character beating them up
I don't hate her, I just fear her
proven geyser
to the random question, burn reduces phys attack and it does negligible dmg to me, letting me safely bulk up
brisk hedge
wdym question mark
Sizzley slide isn’t in any of the games Whitney’s in and can’t be learned by Miltank
sweet crypt
I believe its a signature of partner Eevee
rugged comet
Sizzley slide isn’t in any of the games Whitney’s in and can’t be learned by Mil...
It's in pokerouge
proven geyser
Sizzley slide isn’t in any of the games Whitney’s in and can’t be learned by Mil...
pokerogue
scroll up lmfao
proven geyser
which makes miltank and even scarier fat bastard
sweet crypt
Miltank's main scare factor is having a very high BST for where it is fought, as well as an actually good moveset for early game standards
There is another early game gym Pokemon with high stats, being Scyther
brisk hedge
scroll up lmfao
Firesword was referring to main series Whitney
sweet crypt
However, Bugsy's Scyther has an awful moveset
proven geyser
Firesword was referring to main series Whitney
context for majority of our discussion was rogue tho
sweet crypt
Scyther in general has an awful level up moveset actually
proven geyser
and i mentioned miltank, then they brought up whitney
so it was well within context
and it was an even funnier coincidence i just fought her
proven geyser
he deserves it
rugged comet
Imagine if Bugsy had a Scizor
What if he gets it in a johto remake
sweet crypt
Just multiple players complaining about Bugsy and some guy who picked Cyndaquil going "You guys had problems?"
That said Scizor wasn't very good until it got Bullet Punch in Gen 4
proven geyser
all the kanto players picking charmander malding at the fact they picked the objectively worst early game starter
sweet crypt
Guess what generation HGSS are in
Man, it'd have been so hilarious
Scizor instantly going to one of the most popular Johto Pokemon to one of the most hated with this simple trick
brisk hedge
Imagine if Bugsy had a Scizor
They probably could if they made a fire type other than Cyndaquill available before the second gym
sweet crypt
They probably could if they made a fire type other than Cyndaquill available bef...
Nah, simply screw over everyone who didn't pick a fire type frfr
Reason: Lmao
Actually ykw
rugged comet
I played x and y several times and I can't remember the flare admins for the life of me
sweet crypt
Yes let's move Houndour to actually be in Johto
brisk hedge
I played x and y several times and I can't remember the flare admins for the lif...
Who is that again? 
proven geyser
I played x and y several times and I can't remember the flare admins for the lif...
i kinda liked x/y but i'm slowly realizing i only cared bc of the cute girl clothes and it had absolutely nothing to do with the nothingburger story
brisk hedge
i kinda liked x/y but i'm slowly realizing i only cared bc of the cute girl clot...
At least it’s not as bad as SWSH’s story
(Not that that’s a high bar)
sweet crypt
Yup, Kanto Route 7 or HGSS Safari Zone
proven geyser
At least it’s not as bad as SWSH’s story
what story lmao
sweet crypt
There's like 2 generations that have a game with a respectable story in Pokemon tbf
3 if you want to stretch things
Pokemon's story isn't its strong spot
rugged comet
There's like 2 generations that have a game with a respectable story in Pokemon ...
People play for the pokemon, not the story
sweet crypt
People play for the pokemon, not the story
Exactly
proven geyser
wild how we went from absolutely nothing in galar to like 3-4 well done(team star was meant to be obvious but goofy) separate stories in paldea
brisk hedge
People play for the pokemon, not the story
Me who started in Unova: 😢
sweet crypt
If only a certain game didn't lock most of the new Pokemon to the previous generation's main region
cough cough GSC
proven geyser
miltank now has 2 silk scarves it's all over
brisk hedge
If only a certain game didn't lock most of the new Pokemon to the previous gener...
Hopefully they’ll fix that when/if they remake Johto again
sweet crypt
Hopefully they’ll fix that when/if they remake Johto again
They kinda fixed that in HGSS
But they're all just put into a safari zone
brisk hedge
Plus, the gym leader teams still suck
sweet crypt
They also need to fix the level scaling
proven geyser
help me choose lmao
slide is weaker than zen sure, but the fire is guaranteed
or should i wait for a memory shroom later
sweet crypt
I'd replace Zen Headbutt maybe probably idk
proven geyser
that's fair
sweet crypt
If you burn a non guts Fighting type, you could probably set up on it
Between the burn, Bulk Up boosting Defence and Milk Drink
Though, I'm not sure how bulky Miltank is
proven geyser
esp since it's inverse mode so i resist fighting
sweet crypt
esp since it's inverse mode so i resist fighting
So the only thing that hits you for SE is like Ghost? Or how does Inverse handle that
proven geyser
correct!
sweet crypt
Because if it hits you SE you hit it SE
proven geyser
ye
sweet crypt
So you definitely replace Zen Headbutt
proven geyser
i'll grab the next shroom i see then
sweet crypt
I'll be honest though I was mainly thinking of my experiences with using Quiver Dance Lunala before they removed it (:()
Where Lunala just tanks quad SE moves because of Shadow Shield and high natural bulk
And then it's just free setup
proven geyser
fling is gonna be wild when they implement it
just stack as much garbage as you can and send it flying
rugged comet
fling is gonna be wild when they implement it
Imagine if you throw the item you don't want to throw
Like leftovers
proven geyser
just dont have fling on a lefties mon duh
ivy stop using phys attacks girl i'm gonna get to +6 😩
sweet crypt
Fling's BP is only worth with fossils, hard stone, rare bone, room service (all at 100), Iron Ball and Big Nugget (130), as well as high powered TRs (It's the TR for Overheat)
Otherwise it simply is too weak to sacrifice items to use
It's funny though
You can actually Fling vitamins for 30 BP in base game Pokemon
If they don't fix that, it's definitely guaranteed dogshit
Let's also not forget that the Big Nugget cannot be held in Pokerogue
proven geyser
I'm sorry, little one
sweet crypt
And also that Iron Ball is a straight up detrimental item
unkempt egret
inverse battle moment
rugged comet
Falkner vs bird
proven geyser
it doesn't matter because it dies
unkempt egret
Isn't Body Slam stronger here?
I was gonna say "I never found that" but then again I was using wyrdeer rofl
rugged comet
Falkner vs bird
His bird won
sweet crypt
Just nitpicking
proven geyser
lmaoo
unkempt egret
sizzly has more pp tho
sweet crypt
sizzly has more pp tho
True
proven geyser
this girl kept digging
sweet crypt
Body Slam is 15 PP though, isn't it?
proven geyser
im not sure what kill she thought she saw with a physical move but
sweet crypt
Because if it is, I usually never struggle with PP problems on moves with more than 10 PP
rugged comet
this girl kept digging
I once had a boss double battle where they both used dig
alternating digs
sweet crypt
This is especially apparent when you're at +6 most of the time
proven geyser
got pp up for milk drink 🙏
proven geyser
the burn will save my damn life
i
rolled a healing charm
i have milk drink, and porygon has recover
sweet crypt
Whenever I use a Pokemon with a recovery move, I prioritise maxing out the PP of the recovery move first
proven geyser
i feel so gross man
unkempt egret
I mean I felt gross af with wyrdeer in the last run
sweet crypt
I'm on a run with Quiver Dance Recover Draining Kiss Fairy Aura Misty Surge Tapu Fini right now
unkempt egret
2 leftes 2 shell bells and a heal charm made it practically immortal
proven geyser
LINOONE GRABBED ANOTHER SILK SCARF
rugged comet
I really feel the stat drop on lopunny
unkempt egret
I think the only thing that got past was round 195 ray rolling hurricane and even then...
focus band.
proven geyser
3 ISNT THE SCARF LIMIT????
unkempt egret
also who gave the final boss a thunderbolt rofl
unkempt egret
op lol
sweet crypt
clears throat
||Wait they gave Eternatus Tbolt?||
||Why? It doesn't even learn that usually||
rugged comet
This is so fun to mess with the ai
unkempt egret
yea I don't think my ||grasses|| even cared rofl
sweet crypt
||Wait what does it replace, if anything?||
||No way they gave it 5 moves right?||
||Wait 6 mb||
unkempt egret
rip wo-chien's ribbon tho since it ||transmuted from a sableye on floor like 175||
sweet crypt
||5 is what it has without any new moves in consideration||
proven geyser
NOO AN EVENT MADE ME WITHDRAW
sweet crypt
NOO AN EVENT MADE ME WITHDRAW
Simply set up again
proven geyser
i got the outspeed bush thing and i had to make sure toxicroak was slow and
85 does not beat tanks 100
sweet crypt
Yeah Toxicorak is disappointingly slow
proven geyser
miltank is also confusingly fast tbf
sweet crypt
I mean at least 100 is like
Average
And not blazing fast
It being faster than Rayquaza is Rayquaza being weirdly slow
proven geyser
at the time it was fast as shit i think
proven geyser
yeah i saw them talking abt it on r/stunfisk
proven geyser
im plus six do i milk drink to top off in front of brawly(inverse so he does nothing)
sweet crypt
I'm at +6 with Fairy Aura usually so Moonblast is only better if I'm in a perilous situation and literally cannot afford to click Quiver Dance
proven geyser
just to rub it in
sweet crypt
And even then, in certain situations, Dkiss is still better then
I think I keep Dkiss, especially since it's a TM
proven geyser
i topped off and he missed take down 
sweet crypt
I wonder if I'd be able to set up on ||Eternatus, it does have high SpA and SE STAB but Fini has extreme special bulk and I'm spamming QD and Recover||
proven geyser
primarina worked great so you'll be fine lol
sweet crypt
Preferably though I just catch a Garganacl and claim my free win
proven geyser
real
sweet crypt
Or Cofagrigus
rugged comet
Team flare on the ocean
sweet crypt
Game stop giving me Tate I need to beat Liza for the singular egg ticket +
rugged comet
Game stop giving me Tate I need to beat Liza for the singular egg ticket +
I wish they were a double battle
sweet crypt
What happened to the double champion battles?
Were they removed? I haven't had one in ages
rugged comet
What happened to the double champion battles?
I've had 2 champ battles
Wallace and Diantha
Oh the button guy
I thought it died
sly ginkgo
gl
sweet crypt
Ivy stayed in with Emboar to try to fish for a burn with Flamethrower on Fini
There are so many things wrong with this sentence
proven geyser
or she doesnt have a safe switch
sweet crypt
If someone has set up 3 quiver dances on you I think you should have swapped a long time ago
Too late though
Tbf, she didn't have a safe switch, her best was Kingambit which is neutral to both with good natural bulk
rugged comet
I've gotten this like 5 times and got okay rewards every time
Finally something not normal
rugged comet
I would love the obvious outcome to be bait
proven geyser
tbf ||gimmigoul|| isnt a super strong pokemon
sweet crypt
Game told me to race a Dugtrio
proven geyser
honestly speaking of, i hate that it has to collect things now, i prefer the friendship evo
rugged comet
Game told me to race a Dugtrio
Good luck with that
proven geyser
u get less rewards tho
rugged comet
Obvious choice
sweet crypt
I crave violence
sly ginkgo
how does a fella even use egg vouchers
proven geyser
nope
sly ginkgo
bet
proven geyser
check the game settings and go to controls so you're not completely lost lol
sweet crypt
No, you need to progress runs to hatch the eggs, but won't be able to use that Pokemon for the current run
rugged comet
This is a good event
sweet crypt
This is a good event
True
Free HA
Well, if you purposefully make the mon you're trying to get the HA on trash
But still
rugged comet
fuck
sweet crypt
This might interest some of you, so here's a little fact about Pokerogue
rugged comet
Fuck
sweet crypt
In Pokemon, abilities work based off speed. The slower Pokemon has its ability activate later. A prominent example would be the weather wars. Kyogre often runs high speed investment, and Groudon usually runs barely any. As such, if 2 players led with these 2 Pokemon, Kyogre's Drizzle will activate first, and be instantly overriden by Groudon's Drought
From what I can tell, the opponent's ability always activates first in Pokerogue
proven geyser
i mean it is a boss
warm kelp
what game is it ?
sweet crypt
This means stuff like priority on Terrain wars and Weather Wars where you usually wouldn't have one
rugged comet
i mean it is a boss
It's my pokemon
sweet crypt
For example, Pelipper vs Torkoal
proven geyser
It's my pokemon
that you turned into a boss
rugged comet
Well I have the passive normally anyways
||Huh I guess luxray got the curse||
Maybe it doesn't show the right tooltip in the party menu
sweet crypt
This is the first run I've gotten Team Magma on where my team isn't brutally weak to Ground
165 Maxie will finally be easy
For now though, I'm reaching 115 Maxie
rugged comet
idk if it was worth it tbh
sweet crypt
Btw Maxie has 3 sun setters
So the battle is still relatively even
Since my Hydro Pumps will basically be neutral after the sun damage reduction
naive timber
how r yall getting so far 😭 i cant even get past wave 15
sweet crypt
Practice, egg moves and competitive knowledge
Though I don't think I had any egg moves on my first clear
rugged comet
Practice, egg moves and competitive knowledge
I lack the third thing
sweet crypt
It's very long ago so I can't remember
proven geyser
same lol
naive timber
egg moves?
naive timber
yall i have 57 pokemon fangames and havent even touched any 😭
naive timber
yea
bro my documents is full of 57 pokemon fangames folders
there all not even in one folder
i chose the stupid decision to put them all in documents seperated
so its so messy
and like i cant put em in one folder then id have to remove the shortcuts for all the games
proven geyser
i dont think thats how it works
naive timber
59 games actually 😭
and i still have 50gb left
but i had to delete valorant for this since i didnt even play it
😭
sweet crypt
Weirdly, the increased shop cost from me having to dive into trash isn't being too obstructive
rugged comet
Weirdly, the increased shop cost from me having to dive into trash isn't being t...
Have you seen what happens when you pick the other option?
sweet crypt
Have you seen what happens when you pick the other option?
Yes, before starting this run
I cannot beat a Gmax Garbodor with a Tapu Fini and an at the time Larvesta though
rugged comet
I wonder what the reward is for beating it
sweet crypt
Tapu Fini really likes 2 leftovers and 2 shell bells though
sweet crypt
I wonder what the reward is for beating it
I believe a max mushroom
Which I needed in the other run for Lapras
But not this one
Oh it isn't necessarily a Max Mushroom
It's just a lot of random good loot
2 Rogue ball items, 1 Ultra, 1 Great
If your team is glass cannon build or needs a mega stone/max mushroom, 2nd option is probably better
Or if your money management is pure ass
rugged comet
Or if your money management is pure ass
proven geyser
i feel like sometimes the AI forgets it's in inverse type chart
rugged comet
I feel like I would forget it as well
brisk hedge
<:stare:785140367833432084>
sweet crypt
Alright challenged Marley or whatever her name was to a battle for an egg
She's the Speed trainer, right?
Yeah
That's what I was afraid of
Regieleki has hit the field
proven geyser
a second regi h
rugged comet
a second regi h
sweet crypt
It missed Zap Cannon as I set up 1 more Quiver Dance and got OHKO through its shield
Welp
proven geyser
its okay im american
sweet crypt
That was anticlimactic
Not out of the woods
There's an Iron Bundle boosted by Eleki's Electric Terrain
It may outspeed and a Freeze Dry would really suck
It didn't outspeed
Nice
rugged comet
missed my first high jump kick of the run
sweet crypt
I wonder if +1 Fini would've tanked Zap Cannon
I had multiple Lums
So I wasn't in danger of losing to para
sweet crypt
Apart from the iconic Arcanine, she had Eleki, Bundle, Gmax Cinderace, Mega Aerodactyl and Dragapult
Extremely terrifying team
I'm assuming this epic egg has Regieleki
Or some other fast Pokemon
rugged comet
Can you win this persian
sly ginkgo
I got a crazy amount of xp
rugged comet
yes
sweet crypt
Do you need Lopunny to win
rugged comet
lopunnite pls
but I could also gamble
proven geyser
ugghhhh bede killed my miltank now i have to swap into pory z and click aura sphere 😡
sweet crypt
At where you are, you should consider 145 Rival, 165 Leader, Elite 4 gauntlet, 195 Rival and Final Boss
Final Boss is an instant win if you have a fast/bulky Curse mon or Salt Cure user
And other stuff of that variety
rugged comet
nah I wipe because melony killed 5/6 of my team before the boss
sweet crypt
At least, if you lead with it ||in phase 2||, which usually means ||having it in slot 2||
proven geyser
is the first ray fight at 125 or am i tripping
sweet crypt
Oh wait this is mightiest foe Melony?
Yeah if 5/6 are dead you just go Egg Ticket Premium
rugged comet
boss
rugged comet
I had 1 revive
sweet crypt
Oh
proven geyser
did this bitch try to sheer cold me
dumbass doesnt land those unless theyre higher level lmfao
sweet crypt
It's called desperation
Once got mightiest foe Candice in the ice biome
But it was Grusha in disguise
I think he was mad that I beat him 10 rounds earlier
rugged comet
Now I get to steal a lot
sweet crypt
In another mightiest foe battle
rugged comet
Also this is my shinx
proven geyser
scary bapie
sweet crypt
The worst part about using a Guts user is getting Toxic Orb or a full heal, I do not want to toxic myself I want to burn myself ffs
proven geyser
man my first full max was weedle
sweet crypt
And I obviously don't want to heal the status on my guts user
proven geyser
doesn't burn debuff override the boost
rugged comet
of guts?
proven geyser
ye
rugged comet
No guts removes burn attack debuff
proven geyser
ahhhh
rugged comet
How is it that both tapu's I have got perfect attack IVs
Still a bit salty about getting HA that's not implemented
sweet crypt
How is it that both tapu's I have got perfect attack IVs
Hey, at least it's the 2 that learn Play Rough :D
Join me as I laugh at Koko and Bulu
This firebreather has a Glaceon?
rugged comet
This firebreather has a Glaceon?
sweet crypt
His 2nd Pokemon is Darmanitan (I can tell by the side Pokeball not being greyed out), perhaps one of the worst Fire types at breathing fire
We've got a fraud over here
proven geyser
sweet crypt
Omg the auto bright sunlight from the beach biome on the Maxie set of waves
Alright, guess this will be an even fight
proven geyser
rivals ray is physical i can setup on it
proven geyser
my tank naturally outspeeds ray, should i soul dew her and make her faster
i can also make pory modest(reverse adamant)
i think ill make pory modest
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You did not need to explain what modest does
I feel like most people at the bare minimum know Modest, Adamant, Timid and Jolly
proven geyser
my brain is mushy rn sorry lmao
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The next level are abilities like Calm, Careful, Bold and Impish
Those ones I can see needing to explain
proven geyser
tbh i feel like anything that isn't minus your unused attaking stat is kinda pointless
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- Speed for slow Pokemon is nice
rain shellBOT
Edit this to change the output of the custom command 75!
proven geyser
you're shooting yourself in the foot or you're a TR user
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The slow Pokemon is outspeeding nothing anyways
May as well make it take less damage from like idk Gyro Ball or something
You're getting hit for max damage by anyone using Electro Ball anyways
proven geyser
true i guess
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Also, yeah TR but tbf TR is rare
With that said, taking points from your weaker attack is still usually better
Though for a slow bulky wall both barely matter at all
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So close to max
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Unless you have pivoting and want to outslow in a mirror match, I guess
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Also close
frail garden
I could bring you
what game is that in i love N's flower pokemon i have since i first seen it years ago but it was locked and couldnt get it in x and y
proven geyser
you mean AZ
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what game is that in i love N's flower pokemon i have since i first seen it year...
Pokerouge
frail garden
yeah mb ty
proven geyser
milk drink is now max pp
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buneary makes early game so easy
proven geyser
that fucker despises you fr fr
proven geyser
op this is my final lusamine
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3 exp shares and I haven't left the plains
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i got lefties just b4 lusamine
man inverse body slam eats steel ghosts for breakfast lunch and dinner
mt eyes started glazing over bc all i have to do is click body slam
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No way Ivy looked at Tapu Fini sweeping her many times
And thought
"You know what egg move my Emboar needs?"
"Wave Crash!"
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"Wave Crash!"
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i thought walreign was primary water not ice and now i have two ice moves
rev dance, man
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||Despite the 2nd sludge bomb critting, Eternatus couldn't KO fini in 2 Sludge Bombs||
||It may be Eternatover||
proven geyser
we're so finiback
the fucked thing about cacturne having sand veil and tank being -1 acc is that i onlyhave to hit body slam once
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||Yup, it was Eternatover||
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I hear that enough irl
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The entire challenge will come from the final boss
Usually if you're playing Pokerogue and are well prepared, there isn't really much challenge in anything
But well, Mono Bug cuts off all the top options for Final Boss
So I'm actually going to have to try
I have been told Shuckle gets Salt Cure
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orbeetle for psychic
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It's a shame I don't have it
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You don't have shuckle?
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No, I don't have Salt Cure on Shuckle
I have all non Epic/Legendary egg Pokemon
I managed to get Swords Dance from a TM for Scyther, it does learn it naturally but early game is one of the parts I am more concerned about
I will appreciate having it now
mossy helm
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Early game is probably where BST differences are least noticeable
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W team?
proven geyser
if it won it won
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It can get noticeable pretty quick though
mossy helm
if it won it won
i only win with W mons
proven geyser
like pawmot apparently 
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like pawmot apparently <:peepoLaugh:755693109311963138>
pawmot is goated !
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At the top of my head, the worst situation for early game is no map -> Lake with Crasher Wake's Gyarados -> Beach -> Sea with Rain
proven geyser
you can win with literally any shitmon
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At the top of my head, the worst situation for early game is no map -> Lake with...
that gyarados...
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Having Swords Dance for this will be pivotal
proven geyser
max ivs beedril with all egg moves can carry a bug run
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I'm not sure if it could hold up against ||Eternatus||
If it gets targeted, it is absolutely doomed
It has to pray ||Eternatus|| ignores it I'd imagine
proven geyser
yeah well that's not his strong suit
proven geyser
thats what ribombee psychic is for
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Ribombee's boutta get OHKOd by Cross Poison
You have to plan around worst case scenarios or you will lose
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The future is now
proven geyser
torkoal set sun for my sizzle slide
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Extremely early Scizor at Round 8
That's my main carry fully set up
Apart from items and PP ups
Very nice to get it this early
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is inteleon phys or special
Special
But I think Ivy uses physical moves on it sometimes
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Hmm wonder what that 2nd egg could be
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Or ig rival in general
proven geyser
Hmm wonder what that 2nd egg could be
IT'S PIKACHU !!
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Hmm wonder what that 2nd egg could be
There's a 7/8 chance it is a phione or something
Good luck :)
proven geyser
i asked bc leone sent one out and wanted to be sure i could setup
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Wait, Ledyba gets Encore?
Holy shit wait
I found my wincon
I have Ledyba's passive
If ||Eternatus|| uses a good move for me I can lock it into that move
Alongside just being annoying and spamming Spore, but it can steal a Lum Berry to break out of that
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I keep forgetting to spoiler text :/
proven geyser
ah well
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This will be great for my fire type
What fire coverage do you have?
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proven geyser
leon was actually a real fight, huh
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Lmao
proven geyser
zacian was a pushover
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I think he sometimes gets Zamazenta instead tbf
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<:heehee:945800365457149992>
Protean is such a fun ability
proven geyser
it was the team composition in general that prevented me from clicking bulk up 4 times and sweeping
proven geyser
nerf was making protean activate after using the move
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Protean can now only activate once per battle
proven geyser
ohhh
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nah it can activate every turn
proven geyser
i nevr use it lmao
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nah it can activate every turn
So it is pre nerf Protean?
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messes with the AI so much
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So it is pre nerf Protean?
yes
proven geyser
omg i have a fuckton of tickets
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This just bumped Scorbunny, Sprigatito and Froakie to top priority Pokemon to get the HAs for
proven geyser
oh yeah cuz libero is just rebrand protean
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Anyways, this run is pretty lucky
Very early map, I won't need to worry about earlier sea/crasher wake
LMAO THE BUG FAN MYSTERY ENCOUNTER
BLESSED RUN
proven geyser
POG
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LMAO THE BUG FAN MYSTERY ENCOUNTER
Now you got to get the shuckle one
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I can't even use this Master Ball for anything apart from Genesect
radiant leaf
Because I know Intrepid Sword is in post nerf state
Sad they removed it from chien pao
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Rival revealed the 2nd worst regional bird btw
Being Corviknight
(For mono Bug)
(In my opinion)
(Or at the very least, for the team I'm using for mono bug)
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oof double intimidate
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Flower Trick ignores Intimidate due to autocrit it's fine
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I could hit for stab super effective against his whole team
not bad
4/5 high jump kicks have hit
no acc boosts
speaking of acc boosts just stole a wide lens from a trainer
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I encountered a walking lump of exp, it seemed to be eating a garbage truck
Well, free exp
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speaking of acc boosts just stole a wide lens from a trainer
could keep it on meowscarada, but I don't miss play roughs
just stole a miracle seed from erika
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Something concerning, I have not found a single PP up or Max PP
proven geyser
mannn thats goofy as hell
rugged comet
what is happening in the tall grass
I have found 6 ninetales in a row
(3 double battles)
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Rolled Team Magma
Forgot to mention earlier
Could be worse
I doubt I could beat Team Flare
Mostly thinking of their leaders when saying this ofc
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I doubt I could beat Team Flare
who would have guess that team flare would have a lot of fire types
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Wow
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The problem is that damned Yveltal
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That is a bad option
proven geyser
its lysandresfucin fish
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Will ivy beat meowscarada this time?
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I think that ||all 3 times I've gotten that event it was the 35% gimmighoul||
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I've gotten that event like 5-6 times
proven geyser
oh thats pretty !!
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Only 1 Gimmighoul
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I think that ||all 3 times I've gotten that event it was the 35% gimmighoul||
first time for that one and I got it like 6 times
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oh thats pretty !!
That is nice
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The one time I got the Gimmighoul I was sitting on a shitton of money anyways
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I think every time I've seen this mon it's died in 1 shot
proven geyser
gambit not beating the fraud allegations
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Gambit either appears against a broken hard carry and dies or has the perfect matchup and inverts my skull
Thankfully, Ivy doesn't seem smart enough to yknow
Give it Sucker Punch
Geeta certainly is
Though the bigger issue with Geeta is Miraidon
Miraidon terrifies me
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Flower trick is going to go insane
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If you don't outspeed and KO Miraidon you are going to wish you did
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It was a phione
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And Miraidon has 135 Speed
Thank god no trainer can pull up with like idk
Tera Fairy Caly-S
Or something absolutely fucking ridiculous like that
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Magician is so good for items
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Random dumb thing that happened earlier
I solod Iono with an underleveled Dewpider
Iono might be a fraud
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I basically soloed wave 145 ivy with ribombee the other day
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Thing is
Iono's entire team is Electric type
To get your Electric type team solod by an underleveled Water type
Really shows your "mastery" at Pokemon Battling
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Thing is ivy had corviknight, ||rayquaza||, skeledirge, and some others
all died to the bee
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I'm betting it had coverage via egg moves for them?
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Damn, Ivy might also be a fraud
Tbf she tried fishing for burns with Flamethrower on a Tapu Fini spamming Quiver Dance on my previous run
So I uhh
Think that's abundantly clear
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money is good this run
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Anyways, Scizor has dismantled Crasher Wake
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Apparently Teleporter event gives you Metal Coat if you don't teleport
This will be perfect considering my primary carry is Scizor
Corviknight is the 2nd worst bird for me to fight specifically because of its passive, Iron Barbs
Before that, it does literally nothing but be set up fodder
Ivy has a Volcarona
Pretty scary if it wasn't for the fact I had Tinted Lens
The drops were so disappointing despite being all ultra tier that I rerolled
And ended up getting a Protein
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Gimmie those glasses
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Got this from his haxorus
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Taking a quick break from my Mono bug run to check how many Pokemon I am missing
13
Epic egg: Mew, Regigigas, Victini, Meltan, Spectrier, Scream Tail, Iron Hands, Iron Moth, Iron Boulder (9)
Legendary egg: Groudon, Kyurem, Yveltal, Terapagos (4)
This excludes ||Eternatus itself||
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tempted to greed
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Amazing
BRO TIMID AS WELL
You're either Modest or you're Timid
If you're using Xerneas
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A crit super effective surf did this much to meowscarada
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Who tf was even using that, fucking base Wishiwashi? That's pathetic
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Who tf was even using that, fucking base Wishiwashi? That's pathetic
Eiscue
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Pathetic enough
65 SpA without STAB is, as expected, sad
Judging by how much space is next to it, this was a double battle
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yes
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When hitting multiple targets, moves lose a lot of power
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did not know that
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So this is an Eiscue using a decently powered non STAB move that was weakened due to multitarget and has 65 SpA
No wonder that damage was depressing
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ice cave has been dying to these 2
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also the 120% boost to flower trick just from items
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The attack trainer
Do I battle him
Yeah fuck it, we ball
Almost instantly got OHKOd, but it activated my Salac
Time to reverse sweep
That's a cute Gmax Centiskorch you have
Where'd its HP go?
I just OHKOd the King of OU
Gg
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It's Riley
him?
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As it turns out, being the king of OU doesn't matter when you're facing a Scizor that has fucking Double Iron Bash, is at +1 Attack and +1 Speed
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him?
Yeah
How many proteins do you have?
You're gonna want to OHKO that Mega Lucario through its shield
And you're gonna want a lot of Proteins
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May want to be a bit cautious then
Mega Lucario can definitely OHKO you even if you're a Fire type due to Protean
So you need enough damage to OHKO through its shield
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so uh he has landrous and
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If a Thundurus Kick can nearly OHKO Scizor, a Pokemon that's far frailer stands no chance
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so uh he has landrous and
He had Gmax Centiskorch for me
Which Scizor just OHKOd immediately
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So he has
Mega Lucario
Gmax Centiskorch
Lando-T
Ursaluna
Ttar
I forgot his last mon because it died too quickly
For me at least
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I hit him with bug buzz once and then fire lash to kill
Oh no what do I do about that
still never missing it
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So he has
Mega Lucario
Gmax Centiskorch
Lando-T
Ursaluna
Ttar
I forgot his last ...
Mega Lucario
G-Max Rillaboom
Lando-T
Ursaluna
Ttar
Roaring Moon
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Roaring Moon, that's what the last mon was
Seems like the only difference in his teams for us was the Gmax
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If Scizor can do it at +1 with 1 hit of DiB
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it survived because of the sand storm I bet
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I'm sure a Meowscarada with 6 fucking miracle seeds can
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it survived because of the sand storm I bet
Oop
Nvm
I forget how absolutely broken Scizor is sometimes
In Pokerogue
Sandstorm doesn't raise the SpD of Ground types btw
And straight up doesn't increase PhysDef
With Flower Trick being a physical move
I love being stupid
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Not an OHKO through the shield smh
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Does Grassy Terrain increase the damage of Grass moves used by a grounded mon or increase the damage of Grass moves used against a grounded mon
It's a very important distinction because if it is the former Meowscarada is a massive fraud
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So what you're saying is that Meows is a fraud
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Or maybe Scizor's just the GOAT
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well it wasn't super effective sadly
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I didn't even realise you brought up the Gen 7 version
I just saw "regardless of whether the target of the move is affected"
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I don't even have grassy terrain
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And immediately assumed it said 30%
Rillaboom's Grassy Terrain seemed to be up in the background
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ah right
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So yeah either Meows is a fraud or Scizor is the GOAT
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I have more Proteins by 3 (you have 0) but you had more type boosting items at the time by 5
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did you have type advantage?
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So you'd have a 70% damage modifier over me
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did you have type advantage?
DiB is neutral, so no
Speaking of, 1 hit of Technician DiB is also weaker than Flower Trick
I was at +1 though, and you ignored your -1 from Intimidate
But you also had Grassy Terrain
That's a lot of damage multipliers
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yeah
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I do think you had the higher BP move though
Effectively
Just that Scizor's base Attack is too far ahead
I almost got fucking wiped by that Lucario though
I mean how do you think I got to +1
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Do i bully this poor piloswine for that
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Do i bully this poor piloswine for that
Yes
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no
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Hmm... Do I Master Ball this Okidogi?
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Ah you again
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I already have one, so no, methinks
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Holy shit I almost got fucking OHKOd on Scizor by Superpower
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I don't need those, but give
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Because it had Fur Coat, tanked a Double Iron Bash, then got +2 Attack
Bro what the fucking shit
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pretty
proven geyser
oohh the sprite is new
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Alright, the first scripted hurdle for this run
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ah
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I need to be able to get Scizor to +6 and avoid Volcarona's Flame Body
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first impression
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So that I can OHKO Rayquaza with Bullet Punch
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ah close combat
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Otherwise, Scizor is too slow
Though, Corviknight already guarantees I'm getting to +6
So it's just a 30% roll
Is what I would say, if I didn't have Lum Berries
I should be able to win this without much issue
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If Ivy kept Empoleon in to do some rain boosted water moves, this may be more difficult
But she prioritises using Corviknight as her main Scizor check, which gives free setup
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speaking of ivy
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Volcarona comes next, and I have a Lum Berry to ensure the run doesn't die here
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does she get swept by meowscarada again
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Now, Bullet Punch OHKOs the remainder of her Pokemon
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hmm what is she doing with that
proven geyser
ice fang
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145 Ivy is done, at the cost of 1 Lum
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hmm what is she doing with that
Possible Triple Axel
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128 dmg
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Idk if she can get egg moves on those starters
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she can but axel on feraligatr???
That's an egg move