#other-pokemon-games

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coarse estuary
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I mean Ive never used one and I wouldn't mind hacking in a flying and rock move to give my mans stab

unkempt egret
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I think it gets acrobatics anyway but I don't recall it getting a special flying move

coarse estuary
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I mean it gets some via the post game tutor and egg moves so I'll use those and stuffs

drowsy nymph
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Just logged back into unite. Turns out I’m only lvl 2 💀

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There’s so much stuff on my screen 😭

wraith musk
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I'm 50

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=/

drowsy nymph
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Yeah. I didn’t like it that much when I first played so I dropped it

wraith musk
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and I have a lot of unused aoes stuff

wraith musk
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since only other pkmn game I knew was GO

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and no it is not good

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I did like pvp tho

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even got to rank 20 once

drowsy nymph
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I just don’t like this genre of game lol

wraith musk
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yeah 3rd person rpg

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just mash buttons to win

drowsy nymph
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I must be doing something right

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My first game I came last but once I got the hand of things I’ve been first and second

vernal garnet
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theyre not in gen 9, but in gen 10 they might be able to use the mirror herb

wraith musk
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hmm

drowsy nymph
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Plus all the teams we go against surrender at the end

vernal garnet
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unite was so weird

wraith musk
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lmao

wraith musk
vernal garnet
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i was trying to feed shots into enemies and run away but i kept moving forward

graceful osprey
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I...

graceful osprey
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POKERUS

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MY BELOVED

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I forgot about your existence

lyric radish
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POGRE!

coarse estuary
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after weighing all the different suggestions from every server ive asked i think this is the team im going to use and ima just hack em all in right away to make it easer for me and so i can bond with everyone earlier

drowsy nymph
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Nvm I love this game

lyric radish
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closecall XD

drowsy nymph
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I can’t connect to the internet anymore because of that stupid picture 😭

lyric radish
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bro made a saacrifecid for us XD

sweet crypt
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Maybe tutorial? Idk

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Since the game is usually 5v5

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So it isn't the base gamemode

drowsy nymph
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Nah I did a quick battle for a mission

sweet crypt
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And yes I doubt the Unite playerbase enough to say that a normal player would in fact play that badly when a bot wouldn't

drowsy nymph
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Also I got my internet back on. Had to take my switch downstairs 😭

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I wish it was easier to get outfits and stuff lol

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Also do u think I can get urshifu before the event is over 💀

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Nvm I only need 3k more coins

sweet crypt
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Should I replay the Pokemon main series games to see how difficult they are in comparison to each other?

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I think SV, B2W2, L:A and BDSP are fresh enough in my memory to judge fairly

graceful osprey
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Do t bother with gen 9

sweet crypt
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But I might need to replay SV's DLCs since I overprepared due to the hype surrounding Indigo Disk

graceful osprey
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Just

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Dont

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Not 9

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8

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SwSh are cakewalk

sweet crypt
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People hyped up Indigo Disk as extremely difficult so I feel bad for instantly effortlessly steamrolling them with an EV trained Calyrex-Shadow and Kyogre

graceful osprey
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They just aren't used to double battles

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Oooo

sweet crypt
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I may have misintepreted extremely difficult

graceful osprey
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More than one pokemon

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Soooooo hard

sweet crypt
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I'm not good at Doubles either I just heard "extremely competitive movesets" and went "Well guess I'm gonna go all out as well"

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And then steamrolled it

graceful osprey
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Ot is competitively built

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Bit remeber

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it's still the base game ai

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So still easy

sweet crypt
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I mean I first tried BDSP Cynthia tbf so maybe I'm just built different

graceful osprey
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If you do gen 4

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I think gen 4 is dp

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Play platinum

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Where the ai isn't fucked

sweet crypt
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So who knows whether I'm gonna struggle with the DLC or not

graceful osprey
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To be fair

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you used the best double mon

sweet crypt
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Since on one hand I'm extremely unaccustomed to Singles

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On the other, I am pretty decent at the game

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And yeah using fucking

graceful osprey
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Shadow calyrex is broken for doubles

sweet crypt
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Caly-S

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Is not fair

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So I want to redo that part

graceful osprey
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I think I used ogrepon

sweet crypt
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Rest of the game should be a breeze though

graceful osprey
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So I can't talk

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But like

sweet crypt
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Ogerpon is basically a regular Pokemon in BST

graceful osprey
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I love ogrepon

sweet crypt
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It has the same BST as Volcarona it's fine

graceful osprey
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I also love umbreon

sweet crypt
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Ignore how Volcarona tears OU to shreds and even got banned in Gen 9

graceful osprey
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That's why my doubles team was umbreon and ogrepon

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The worst doubles team ever

sweet crypt
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And tbf so did Hearthflame Ogerpon

graceful osprey
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Still shredded

sweet crypt
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And Wellspring Ogerpon (but not quite banned yet)

graceful osprey
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Tbf

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I use that mask

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Cause I like red

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If I liked blue

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I'd use water

sweet crypt
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Honestly based reasoning

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I think I like Teal Mask design the best

graceful osprey
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Could care less about types

sweet crypt
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But I cannot resist Fire/Grass combo

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Because it's cool

graceful osprey
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Use mr peper

sweet crypt
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I don't like Scovillain a bunch

graceful osprey
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Scolvillain is honestly really good

sweet crypt
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I definitely prefer Ogerpon

graceful osprey
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It's INSANE how good scolvillan is

sweet crypt
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Ogerpon beat up 4 Poison types at the same time

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It's so funny

graceful osprey
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Especially with how early you get him

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4?

sweet crypt
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I'm probably just gonna try to steamroll base game and Teal Mask

graceful osprey
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Pecharaunt didn't join

sweet crypt
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Those I can confirm are easy

graceful osprey
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Yknow

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It's so fucking stupid to me

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why is ogrepon level 10

sweet crypt
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You probably did it early

graceful osprey
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The stupid 3 are like level 40

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Why are you 10

sweet crypt
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The levels are scaled to postgame after beating the base game

graceful osprey
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No

sweet crypt
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But I guess they didn't scale in between

graceful osprey
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Well yea

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But I'm saying before post

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Level 10

wraith musk
graceful osprey
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The enemies are level 40

wraith musk
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we all think as one

sweet crypt
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I should steamroll Teal Mask first for early Ogerpon fr

wraith musk
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enemies just get obliterated

graceful osprey
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Teal mask

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You cannot ignore Pon-Pon

sweet crypt
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I grinded to level 40 before the 3rd gym once alongside getting Gholdengo before the 3rd titan

graceful osprey
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Yes that's her name

wraith musk
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mine

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kieren prb

sweet crypt
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It should be fine

wraith musk
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he knows da lines

sweet crypt
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Also yeah I'm definitely playing Platinum over DP

graceful osprey
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Bro chill

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You're not hop

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You don't get a legendary

sweet crypt
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I have heard horrible things about DP

graceful osprey
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Dp?

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Ph

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Yea

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So

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Want me to snag the video?

wraith musk
sweet crypt
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I've only played Platinum and it will stay that way

wraith musk
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i jut love it so much

sweet crypt
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(I completely forgot what I did during that)

graceful osprey
wraith musk
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somehow made death pkmn non edgy

sweet crypt
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?

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What lol

wraith musk
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lol tahW

sweet crypt
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???????

wraith musk
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???????

graceful osprey
sweet crypt
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My main worry is that I can't get trade evolutions

sweet crypt
wraith musk
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ppl forget platinum had it fixed

sweet crypt
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Honestly I'm betting that I struggle the most with Gen 2 because I spend 50 years grinding for levels because of the level gaps

wraith musk
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dont shit on em for no reason

sweet crypt
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I could actually just say "FUCK IT WE BALL" and play while underleveled actually

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It would be funny

wraith musk
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dude

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i beat cynthia with a donphan that knows ice shard

graceful osprey
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Cool

wraith musk
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and an electivre

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i didnt even use my own garchomp

graceful osprey
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I beat her in gen 5

sweet crypt
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Pokemon is inherently an easy game so I doubt I'll struggle fully

graceful osprey
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Does thay count?

wraith musk
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and my team was easily in its 95s

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she got smoked

sweet crypt
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The most I see myself struggling is due to unfamiliarity with older games and having to grind up levels

wraith musk
graceful osprey
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Cool

wraith musk
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yup

sweet crypt
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And grinding levels is easier in later games so ig they'd be easier in that regard?

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Idk

graceful osprey
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Ngl

wraith musk
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johto just has low xp unfortunatly

graceful osprey
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Younger me got stuck on the very beginning of leag green

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I couldn't read or something

wraith musk
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youngster ?

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joey ?

graceful osprey
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When I was like

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7

wraith musk
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quick atck rattata

graceful osprey
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I played leaf green

sweet crypt
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Do I use tools to allow myself to get trade evolutions without trading?

graceful osprey
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I never delivered the parasol

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So the old man never moved

sweet crypt
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Because it would suck to be locked out of trade evos

wraith musk
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when i was 10 i played i played og red

graceful osprey
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I thought my game was bugged

wraith musk
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from gameboy

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and this one grunt ruined my life

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24 resets in and i dodged him to save myself

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like

sweet crypt
wraith musk
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HOWW TF U USING A RATICATE WITH HYPER FANG AT LVL 9

sweet crypt
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It's one of the best Pokemon I would be able to get for sure

wraith musk
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i wiped so badly

graceful osprey
wraith musk
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and it crits so much

sweet crypt
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Technically I can get any Pokemon but I do not feel like looking for Tauros in the safari zone

wraith musk
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in mt moon

graceful osprey
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Oh

wraith musk
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while i had a fkn zubat geodude n charmander

graceful osprey
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I HTE IT HERE

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LET ME BUY EV LOWERING BERRIES

wraith musk
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geodude was just shit

sweet crypt
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I won't need the undisputed 3rd best mon in the game to beat Pokemon

wraith musk
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only for tanking stuff

graceful osprey
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HOW TO PEOPPE BUULD IN ANY GEN BUT 9

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AAAAAAAAAA

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Gen 9 SPOILED me

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It's so easy to jusy

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Build and rebuild

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However you want

sweet crypt
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The most significant Pokemon I see myself going for are Snorlax, Starmie and Alakazam

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I don't feel like grinding for Tauros or Chansey in the Safari Zone

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So I won't

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It'd probably be better if I was playing without knowing metagames but you can't easily unlearn things you've learnt

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And also I don't really have much bias for Gen 1 mons

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So I don't have any Pokemon that I would use simply because I like them apart from like Starmie who's already like the 6th best Pokemon in the game sooooooo

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The Johto games I can see being an issue but for a not good reason

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AKA the level curves

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I do plan on fighting beating Kanto in the Johto games even though that would be postgame

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I guess I should also go after Steven in Emerald

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But I do not feel like doing too many of the postgame bosses so I'm only doing the infamous/famous ones and the quicker ones

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So Cynthia in Gen 5 as well

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Maybe N in B2W2 I recall him being not too difficult to get to

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Maybe I'm misremembering though

graceful osprey
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That's so much hp

sweet crypt
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I probably don't need to play B2W2 though

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I feel confident in putting it in 3rd place behind BDSP

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And I'd be surprised if another game would take that spot

graceful osprey
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Gen 5.2 is easy emough

sweet crypt
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I'm referring to specifically B2W2 challenge mode btw

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I do plan on doing remakes seperately

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Not too sure on second games like BW B2W2 or SM USUM

graceful osprey
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I mean

sweet crypt
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I also only have USUM and not SM

graceful osprey
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Technically

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Usum

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Are the same story as um

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Bw and b2w2 are differnt

sweet crypt
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But I mean I recall not struggling much in USUM apart from a few of the totems giving me a bit of trouble and wiping out to Ultra Necrozma like twice

atomic orchid
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Only major difference between SM and USUM is story changes and an expanded postgame

sweet crypt
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Ig that would put it at 2nd above BDSP technically but I was extremely prepared for BDSP

atomic orchid
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Like UN is not in base SM

sweet crypt
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And the experience difference between my playthrough of USUM and BDSP is massive

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So can we really take me losing twice to UN compared to 0 times to BDSP Cynthia as USUM being harder?

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Idts

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So I'll probably be replaying USUM

atomic orchid
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Black 2 and White 2 are imo better than originals, but can’t compare them as they are sequels, so you really have to play both games to get the full story. The sequels are more challenging imo, but also you have a wider range of mon options

sweet crypt
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I'll also replay ORAS, but I suspect Mega Latios and Pdon will trivialise it

sweet crypt
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And see how true the "Pokemon got easier over time" mentality is

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L:A and BDSP will be hard to beat

atomic orchid
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Black 2 has the challenge mode if you memory link.

sweet crypt
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B2W2 is in 3rd place

atomic orchid
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It is challenging

graceful osprey
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So like

sweet crypt
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I've played challenge mode B2W2 before

atomic orchid
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But then again I don’t play meta so mrshrug

graceful osprey
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Is top three easiest or hardest?

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If it's easiest

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Gen 8

sweet crypt
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Top 3 hardest

graceful osprey
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Oh

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Hardest

atomic orchid
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Will say Cynthia is in BW, not B2W2

sweet crypt
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For b2w2 that is

graceful osprey
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Gen 5.2....

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Is hard?

sweet crypt
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So she is in those games as well

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As in, in the house

graceful osprey
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Are we counting like

sweet crypt
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And not just the PWT

atomic orchid
graceful osprey
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Full post game and everything?

atomic orchid
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That’s BW

sweet crypt
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No I literally fought Cynthia in that infamous house I swear

atomic orchid
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Yeah. That’s base BW

sweet crypt
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Unless I managed to play both BW and B2W2 and managed to mix them into one amalgamation without remembering

atomic orchid
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Sequels have Alder and his bratty grandson as their top challenge

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They tend to do that

sweet crypt
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SHE IS IN B2W2

graceful osprey
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Oh?

sweet crypt
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AS IN IN UNDELLA TOWN

graceful osprey
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House

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Right?

atomic orchid
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Undella town is BW!!!

sweet crypt
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I literally checked Bulbapedia because I really remembered fighting her there in B2W2

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And what do you know

graceful osprey
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I cam go chexk

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The romhack doesn't move npcs

atomic orchid
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We just had someone playing White 2 here last week who said she was gone!

graceful osprey
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Do I need to check?

sweet crypt
graceful osprey
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Let me see if my ds is charged

atomic orchid
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Found the problem

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Spring and Summer only

sweet crypt
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Guess I fought her in the correct time then

atomic orchid
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Maybe Firesword wasn’t playing at the right time

graceful osprey
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Ye

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I told him to play in August

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Moat accessible month

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That or wintwr

atomic orchid
graceful osprey
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But puddles suck during winter

atomic orchid
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Agreed

graceful osprey
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Gen 5 is the reason I hate ice puzzles

sweet crypt
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Now to be fair to Cynthia I pulled up to her house and instantly stacked up hazards on her ass but like

graceful osprey
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Funny thing

sweet crypt
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I don't recall it being the worst

atomic orchid
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So you did what Geeta should have done heehee

graceful osprey
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Glimmora

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Assuming she survives

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Can just deny all hazards

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Posion absorbs toxic spikes

sweet crypt
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I think Geeta is a stinky little liar ngl

graceful osprey
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And the signature move is poison rapid spin

atomic orchid
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Think she pulled a Mr. Satan from DB?

graceful osprey
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I think she's am idiot

sweet crypt
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"I am incapable of holding back" Then what do you call swapping over to terastalising Tera Flying Kingambit than?

atomic orchid
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Premier fighter who won a single tournament then proceeded to bs her way tot he top?

graceful osprey
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I hate Geeta

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Top chmap

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BITCH

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5 SECONDS AGO

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YOU SAID

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NEMONA

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KICKED YOUR ASS WHILE HOLDING BACK

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AND YOURE SUPPOSEDLY INCAPLE OF DOING SO

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STRONGEST CHAMP MY ASS

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RETIRE

sweet crypt
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Geeta has to be actively deceiving us

atomic orchid
sweet crypt
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There is 0 explaination for her claiming to be not holding back

atomic orchid
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Not strongest champ

sweet crypt
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And then revealing she had Tera Flying Kingambit

graceful osprey
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She has deminshia

sweet crypt
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Like bro?

atomic orchid
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Basically Geeta is the student council president but she’s treated as a bigger deal than that

graceful osprey
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I thought nemona was

sweet crypt
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I had a heart attack when I first saw that Glimmora not being her last Pokemon

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Then saw Kingambit

atomic orchid
sweet crypt
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Then saw it terastalise into a Flying type

graceful osprey
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I had a s0ecial attacker

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SUCCESSOR?

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SHES ALREADY BETTER

sweet crypt
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I can't believe Gamefreak just pulled a fucking Smogon OU on us

atomic orchid
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As in “next top” after she graduates

graceful osprey
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I feel bad for any future trainers that make it that far

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Nemona actively uses stealth rock lycanrock

atomic orchid
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I mean we beat her at every opportunity and we only started a few months ago. She’s an upperclassman

graceful osprey
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Cmon man

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We're the main charcter of the game

sweet crypt
graceful osprey
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It's a given

atomic orchid
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I don’t do the meta and I never had a problem with her

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I as a person

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And one time I forgot she was gonna fight me!

graceful osprey
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The most meta I've ever done is fucking around with shadow Calyrex

sweet crypt
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I was using the least optimal team on my first SV playthrough ever

graceful osprey
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I will say

atomic orchid
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In the third time I played the game (due to outside problems)

graceful osprey
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All fire team against final nemona js a nightmare

sweet crypt
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Honestly, Eri was the hardest battle

graceful osprey
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Eei is....

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No

sweet crypt
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The final Team Star boss

graceful osprey
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She's easy

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Final?

sweet crypt
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It was the only battle I remotely struggled on in my unoptimal playthrough

atomic orchid
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My biggest problem was Larry because my first run I stupidly did the gyms and other stuff in counterclockwise order

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So he was my 3rd gym

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And that left Great Tusk as second Titan

graceful osprey
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"I don't use meta"

sweet crypt
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And my team was pretty good against Fighting too actually

graceful osprey
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Says giving leftovers to a subist8ue Zygarde

sweet crypt
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Eri's built different

graceful osprey
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Honestly

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My tinkaton kinda just

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Wiped

atomic orchid
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Oddly my next struggle was against “Clive”

graceful osprey
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True

atomic orchid
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Despite saving Team Star for last

sweet crypt
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Turns out Scyther sucks

graceful osprey
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Only cause his team was higher oevel

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Why are you using scyther

sweet crypt
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Well in a playthrough

sweet crypt
graceful osprey
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Leftovers on a pokemon woth 400hp isn't that toxic right?

sweet crypt
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I wanted Scizor and was hoping for Linking Cord to save me

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It uhh

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Didn't

graceful osprey
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HA

sweet crypt
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Because it doesn't exist

graceful osprey
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Youre funny

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Qol items?

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In my pokemon mainstream?

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Get real

sweet crypt
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You say that

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But SV easily added the most QOL of any game

graceful osprey
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True

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God I miss building in that game

sweet crypt
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Apart from like Gen 4-5 making TMs unbreakable i guess

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Physical/Special split was a mixed bag

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Some Pokemon became worse

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Most became better

graceful osprey
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Why does everything in gen8 need b0

graceful osprey
sweet crypt
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But because some Pokemon became worse I don't feel confident in saying it is the best for that

sweet crypt
graceful osprey
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True

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Even more sad gen 8 noises

sweet crypt
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Just commit pokemon murder and you're good to go

graceful osprey
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No

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They're sleeping

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It's rated e

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They can't die

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This isn't vanguard where you can actively watch a murder

sweet crypt
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Well you can be told about people dying painfully

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So there's that

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And I feel like there's a 75% chance Ogerpon's friend got fucking murdered by the Loyal 3

graceful osprey
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I uh

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No?

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He just

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Vanished

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Like an anime father

sweet crypt
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Nah that's because they hid the body

graceful osprey
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Let's be real

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They probably ate it

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Let's do some battle tower

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Woth my freshly built zygarde

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Keeping it real

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If I have the option

sweet crypt
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But yeah ORAS is gonna be a piece of cake

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I just pick Mudkip for the early game

graceful osprey
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I'm bringing a mon to gen 9 to build it

sweet crypt
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Get Latios

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And win

graceful osprey
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I forgey

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You get latios

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Mega latios

sweet crypt
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I won't even use Mega Latios to prove I can win with my favourites

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(I don't like Mega Latios)

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(And prefer Latios)

graceful osprey
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I don't lile their megas

sweet crypt
graceful osprey
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Especially their megas

sweet crypt
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And as if I don't get Primal Groudon down the line

graceful osprey
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Dm

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Damn

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That sucked

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O guess ubsosute is here to take a chunk of health

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I hate getting mints in gen 8

sweet crypt
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I guess I still need to cover Gen 8

graceful osprey
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It's bottom 3

sweet crypt
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I think that Crown Tundra may give some trouble

graceful osprey
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This game is a fucking joke

sweet crypt
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But comparitively to the other games it'll be easy

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ORAS has to be bottom 1 though

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No way it isn't

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XY might be bottom 2

graceful osprey
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Juat

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Well

sweet crypt
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Game gives you Mega Lucario

graceful osprey
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I'd say just get urshifu rapid strike

sweet crypt
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You can pick options to get Mega Zard Y

graceful osprey
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But you don't even need that

sweet crypt
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It's joever

sweet crypt
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And Single Battles is all I'll be doing

graceful osprey
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Rapid strike beats sturdy

sweet crypt
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This also allows me to pick Calyrex-Shadow as the main boss

graceful osprey
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Fair

sweet crypt
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And hopefully Urshifu tanks at least 1 hit

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It has low SpD though

graceful osprey
#

Ah

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Just quick claw it

sweet crypt
#

And STAB Astral Barrage from 165 SpA is a bitch

graceful osprey
#

Or focus sash

#

Lemme

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Yea

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Focus sash

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Just survive the endeavor

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It lacks quick attack

#

Zygarde feels like a cheat code

#

X4 ice hurts though

sweet crypt
#

The level 70 legendary feels unfair in the main game

#

Woah

#

Yeah idk why they made it accessible before the 1st gym

graceful osprey
#

What?

#

Kubfu?

sweet crypt
#

No the Crown Tundra legendaries

graceful osprey
#

Wait

#

Do they listen?

sweet crypt
#

I think?

graceful osprey
#

I wouldn't think so

sweet crypt
#

I'm pretty sure they should always listen if you're the OT

graceful osprey
#

Cause you catch them at level 70

#

Wrong

sweet crypt
#

Not entirely sure though

graceful osprey
#

They listen

#

if

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You have enough gym badges

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The original level

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Say I have 0 gym badges

#

Catch a level 25

#

Level it up to level 30

#

I still only need to badge for level 25

#

Cause that's the level it was caught at

sweet crypt
#

Yeah no they always listen if they aren't outsider Pokemon (non OT)

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According to Bulbapedia

graceful osprey
#

That's just wrong

#

Go play legends

sweet crypt
#

Them not listening no matter what started in L:A according to it

graceful osprey
#

Go play sv

#

Sv is a prime example

sweet crypt
#

And that's LA

#

And 1 gen after LA

#

Hence why Bulbapedia specified it started in L:A

graceful osprey
#

To be entirely fair

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You can't exactly

#

catch

sweet crypt
#

You can test if you want

graceful osprey
#

Pokemon in gen game

sweet crypt
#

Wait, I can test if I want

graceful osprey
#

LEE?

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The fuck are you doing at the battle tower

#

Whatever

sweet crypt
#

Leon is a trainer at Battle Tower yeah

graceful osprey
#

Amd you have blizzard

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I hate your fucking guts

sweet crypt
#

You picked Cinderace?

graceful osprey
#

Die in a fire

sweet crypt
#

That sounds like a move Inteleon would use

graceful osprey
#

It is

sweet crypt
#

He probably has another user though

graceful osprey
#

He hit blizzard without hail

sweet crypt
#

It was in his favour tbf

graceful osprey
#

I hate this guy

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So much

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Lee isn't good

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TWOCE

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TWOVE

#

OK

#

SURE

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WHY NIT

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JUST CHEAT

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Fucker hit blizzard

#

twice

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Of course

#

OF COURSE

sweet crypt
#

I think that's still slightly in his favour

graceful osprey
#

I'm going to kill myself

sweet crypt
#

Oh btw yeah they are obedient

graceful osprey
#

Why.....

sweet crypt
#

I hope you're happy because a Cryogonal had to die for that

graceful osprey
#

That's so dumb

#

I guess

#

That would explain the whole

sweet crypt
#

Testing again on Amaura just in case

graceful osprey
#

Unable to catch before level

sweet crypt
#

Anyways Amaura is also dead

#

Dw I quit out before saving

#

Both Cryogonal and Amaura are spared

#

But yeah I should ban that

#

The DLC clearly wasn't designed with base game in mind

#

Actually maybe I should and call it the easiest

#

But actually dynamax adventures are pretty difficult

#

Especially solo

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So it might be easier to play normally

#

It's gonna be easy even normally

#

Based on theorising so far I'd rank SWSH as the 3rd easiest, XY as the 2nd and ORAS as the 1st

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By theorising I mean experience and memory

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The most I struggled with ORAS was using Sceptile line

#

Because Sceptile line sucks and is bad

atomic orchid
#

Only if you don’t count Let’s Go

sweet crypt
#

I can't remember Let's Go too well may have to replay that

atomic orchid
#

It’s decent but more on the “accessible to new people” side

sweet crypt
#

Man I wish Sceptile wasn't hot garbage

#

That would be so cool

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I've got to use it in Gen 9

#

It got Shed Tail so it's probably good now

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But Shed Tail is banned in OU for the crimes of Cyclizar and Orthworm

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The fact that I'm not sure if Sceptile would be broken with it despite that is sad

graceful osprey
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Would it be stupid to run coil and dragon dance?

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On Zygarde

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Hmmmm

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I think it might be dumb

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Can I just say

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I hate competitive pokemon with a PASSION

sweet crypt
#

Hey how do you know if you have no life?

graceful osprey
#

I wonder that myself

sweet crypt
#

I think this is a pretty good sign personally

graceful osprey
#

Comp is jist stupid to me

wraith musk
#

yk what

graceful osprey
#

Used the broken shit or you lose

wraith musk
#

pkmn should remove abilities

graceful osprey
#

Honeslty

wraith musk
#

and ives

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and evs

graceful osprey
#

Not evs

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But

wraith musk
#

and make one stat special again

graceful osprey
#

All is should be set to like

wraith musk
graceful osprey
#

20

wraith musk
#

bring back old crit rate

graceful osprey
#

Them being random is stupid

#

No

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Don't bring back gen....

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Yknow what

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Bring back old ohkos

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I'm feeling zesty

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Remeber when they were based on speed?

sweet crypt
#

And have lower tiers for not broken shit

#

Or not good shit

#

Or in fact just shit

graceful osprey
#

Bur they ban the pokemon I enjoy using

sweet crypt
graceful osprey
#

When I use then an a not broken way

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Ignore my dracocish

#

That's an exception

sweet crypt
graceful osprey
#

Thats fair

sweet crypt
#

It is what it is

#

Also I disagree with removing abilities IVs and EVs

#

Since they've actually allowed you to not instantly have to reset if you get the wrong IVs or ability

#

Unless you need a 0 in Attack or Speed, which is on my wishlist for next generation

#

Making SpA and SpD just Special is literally the worst idea ever, same with crits and OHKOs based on speed, but those are obviously jokes

graceful osprey
#

Yea just

sweet crypt
#

Can't wait for Beedrill to have pathetic SpD again

graceful osprey
#

Hes my

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Ignore Mr. Fish

sweet crypt
#

Nerfing the already bad Pokemon

graceful osprey
#

I'm sick of dealing with shit

#

Mon

sweet crypt
#

Buffing the already good ones

#

Except Tauros, Tauros becomes 50 times happier

graceful osprey
#

You have outlived your existence

#

Die

sweet crypt
#

And Snorlax, it regains usage

#

Probably Chansey as well

#

But then the next 3, Alakazam, Starmie and Exeggutor, benefit a lot

#

Also, Amnesia 💀

#

Ykw

#

It is a Volcarona buff...

graceful osprey
#

Manaphy

#

Viable?

#

Tail glow is x3 special gain

sweet crypt
#

Manaphy may rise out of RUBL and back into Ubers

#

Is it worth it though?

#

Probably not

#

But it'd be funny

graceful osprey
#

Make my boy goated

sweet crypt
#

Would Amnesia and Nasty Plot just be clones?

graceful osprey
#

Yea

sweet crypt
#

Anyways, Alakazam becomes insane

graceful osprey
#

People that say gen 1 is then best gen have 2 braincells

sweet crypt
#

I dont think I want to talk about Mega Gengar

graceful osprey
#

That say it unironically

sweet crypt
#

Then it's only AG

#

And not AGBL

graceful osprey
#

Man

#

You're speaking in tounges

#

Tongues

sweet crypt
#

Don't we all?

graceful osprey
#

I have zero idea what any of that meana

#

All I know is Mr. Fish go woosh

#

Not very effecrive?

#

I don't ca-

#

Oh you have focus sash

#

And it's sunny day

sweet crypt
#

Funny OHKO Blissey with a neutral special move goes brrrrrrrr

graceful osprey
#

I may sound like a grouch

#

But I don't like fairy type

sweet crypt
#

Also, Dracovish wasn't banned for shitting on offence

#

I mean it does shit on offence with a Scarf

#

But bigger factor is how it makes Stall literally unplayable

graceful osprey
#

Then why...

#

???

sweet crypt
#

It completely removes a playstyle from the game

graceful osprey
#

What war crimes

sweet crypt
#

And also shits on Balance hard

graceful osprey
#

What did my boy do?

sweet crypt
#

And Offence actually

sweet crypt
graceful osprey
#

Right

sweet crypt
#

Well, unless it has Water Absorb

graceful osprey
#

Forgot about that

graceful osprey
sweet crypt
#

It runs either Scarf to outspeed

#

Or Band to completely invalidate a playstyle

graceful osprey
#

And you kinda just

#

Get both

#

The game gives then to you

#

For free

sweet crypt
#

Because no sane person clicks any move apart from Fishious Rend

graceful osprey
#

I mean

#

I have jaw moves

sweet crypt
#

If you see a Seismitoad you switch out

graceful osprey
sweet crypt
#

You don't try Psychic Fangs or something

#

Anyways, I think Darm-G is more funny

graceful osprey
#

Who?

sweet crypt
#

So in Gen 5 people joked about Genesect being able to effectively hold 2 Choice Specs, 2 Choice Bands, 1 Scarf 1 Band etc

#

Because of Download

#

Fast forward to Gen 8

#

Darmanitan gets a Galarian form

graceful osprey
#

Download is stupid

vernal garnet
#

gorilla tactics...

sweet crypt
#

It has the ability Gorilla Tactics

#

Literally a Choice Band as an ability

graceful osprey
#

And that does...

#

Hang on

sweet crypt
#

Stacks with Choice Band and Choice Scarf

vernal garnet
#

140 attack/ 95 speed as well

sweet crypt
#

And it's a form of a Gen 5 mon

#

This is hilarious

graceful osprey
#

Oh

#

It's literally choice band

sweet crypt
#

Regular Darmanitan kinda struggled a bit with Scarf, Band or Life Orb

graceful osprey
#

That's funny

sweet crypt
#

Well, this Darmanitan runs 2 Bands or 1 Band 1 Scarf

graceful osprey
#

Why would they do that

#

That's just a 100% attack boost

vernal garnet
#

powercreep my beloved

sweet crypt
graceful osprey
#

It is really funny

sweet crypt
graceful osprey
#

And that's not counting any baton pass shenagains

#

Not that you'd need them aside from maybe a tailwind setup

sweet crypt
#

Baton Pass is generally banned in OU

#

So that's nice

graceful osprey
#

Oh

#

That's good

#

Is uh

sweet crypt
#

G-Darm also had this nice niche Belly Drum Sub Salac set with Zen Mode

graceful osprey
#

What's it's name

#

Fuck

sweet crypt
#

But nobody really used it over Gorilla Tactics, similar to regular Darmanitan's Zen Mode VS Sheer Force

graceful osprey
#

Bike boys

#

Uh

#

Not the box bikes

sweet crypt
#

Miraidon and Koraidon?

graceful osprey
#

The normal ones

sweet crypt
#

Cyclizar?

graceful osprey
#

Yea

#

Are they banned?

sweet crypt
#

It was banned for Shed Tail

graceful osprey
#

Ok

sweet crypt
#

But then they realised Orthworm was as broken

#

If not even more so

#

So they banned the move

#

And unbanned Cyclizar

graceful osprey
#

Why...

sweet crypt
#

Sceptile never got to try it out in OU

graceful osprey
#

They shoot themselves in the foot

sweet crypt
#

It was too late to the party

graceful osprey
#

Can't you just

#

Ban the move?

sweet crypt
#

Cyclizar is not great without Shed Tail

#

Same with Orthworm

sweet crypt
#

Yes, this does mean that Last Respects Basculin was broken in Ubers

graceful osprey
#

Trust me

#

I knwo the m9ve is great

sweet crypt
#

Last Respects is "fair and balanced"

graceful osprey
#

I am however

#

Upset

#

In legends

#

Basculegion domt have a psychicl ghost move

sweet crypt
#

Honestly I kinda want to see if Sceptile would be broken with it

#

It'd be worse than a Shed Tail+Rapid Spin+Regenerator combo

#

And worse than Slow Shed Tail to keep the substitute up 100% of the time

#

But I feel like it has got to be still broken

#

But I still want to see it

graceful osprey
#

Just boomburst or sumin

#

Exploud is legal right?

sweet crypt
#

Sceptile needs to have something going for it

graceful osprey
#

With its 240bo boomburst or sumin

sweet crypt
#

Exploud is not in Gen 9

#

Kommo-O is though :)

#

It wasn't at the time of the move being banned though

#

And using sound moves to bypass it just is way too specific

#

Kommo-O is the best user of sound moves and is not good

#

And it didn't even exist yet

graceful osprey
#

Is noivern ever used?

sweet crypt
#

Well actually I can think of one good sound move user

#

One very fluffy sun moth

graceful osprey
#

Towels evolution?

#

Toxels*

sweet crypt
#

At the time, Volcarona wasn't banned for who knows what reason

graceful osprey
#

Toxcricity

#

That's its name

sweet crypt
#

So it would technically be capable of using Bug Buzz to go through Substitute

#

Tbf, Bug Buzz Volcarona isn't common

#

It needs other moves for coverage too

#

And if it is passed to a Bug resist, it won't end too well

graceful osprey
#

I hate burn

#

Why does sit half attack

sweet crypt
#

Which is a big problem with using Sound moves to bypass Substitute in general

graceful osprey
#

On top of dot

sweet crypt
graceful osprey
#

Is toxcricity banned?

sweet crypt
graceful osprey
#

Whay

#

Take that back

sweet crypt
#

And also I don't think it existed at the time, could be wrong

sweet crypt
graceful osprey
#

But it has boombirst

sweet crypt
#

From a casual standpoint it's pretty fucking cool

graceful osprey
#

And an ability to boost it

sweet crypt
#

Boomburst alone doesn't make a Pokemon good

graceful osprey
#

Just give it throat spray and you're golden

sweet crypt
#

In fact, Kommo-O is the best Boomburst user

#

And it doesn't even reach OU

#

(Technically it's Palafin but you'll never see Palafin use Boomburst)

graceful osprey
#

This burn is doing nothing

#

Leftovers is outselling it

#

Outhealing

#

Fuck off autocumber

sweet crypt
#

Leftovers heals as much as Burn does damage

#

Burn effectively negates Leftovers which is great

graceful osprey
#

Sad Zygarde noises

#

Oh well

#

Thanks power construct

sweet crypt
#

Halving physical damage helps keep extremely monstrous Pokemon like Kingambit and Roaring Moon in check

graceful osprey
#

Just

#

Use dragon dance till it goes off

#

Then sweep with arrows

sweet crypt
#

Can't burn Gouging Fire though

graceful osprey
#

Battle tower is so stupid

sweet crypt
#

Burn is probably my favourite status condition

#

It is about as easy to play around as Poison

graceful osprey
#

I like frozen and it's randomness

#

OW

#

THAY DID NOTHING

#

AT +5

sweet crypt
#

And you definitely want it to stop Physical attackers who don't have Guts

#

Guts users want to be burnt though

graceful osprey
#

Meanwhie

#

My guts ursaluna

#

With a burn orb

sweet crypt
#

And if a special attacker sees you have Twave or Toxic, it will want to get burnt too

graceful osprey
#

And belly drum

sweet crypt
#

It's balanced

#

And not RNG based at all

graceful osprey
#

I have that ursaluna for raids

#

And nothing else

sweet crypt
#

Poison is similar but doesn't have the benefit of halving physical damage

#

It's just decent damage over time

graceful osprey
#

Poison has toxic

sweet crypt
#

Badly Poisoned is kinda like Poison but better

#

Which woah who could've seen that coming

#

The damage starts lower but ramps up extremely quickly

#

It's both good on Stall teams and good against Stall teams

#

And also good against sweepers who generally want to stay in to

#

Yknow

#

Sweep

graceful osprey
#

Leftovers has stopped my zygarde from just going dead

sweet crypt
#

Paralysis..

#

Man, I hate this

graceful osprey
#

I'm stubborn

#

I'd stay in

sweet crypt
#

The slow itself is nice

#

The RNG 1/4 chance to do jack shit?

#

Not so nice

graceful osprey
#

I feel like Para should give you -1 prio

#

Not slow speed

sweet crypt
#

I feel like every time I get paralysed I don't move for 10 turns in a row

graceful osprey
#

OH MY GOD

sweet crypt
#

Sleep is also bad

graceful osprey
#

WHY DOES EVERY FUCKING MON KNOW PROTECT

sweet crypt
#

Mmm yes random 1-3 turns of sleep

graceful osprey
#

YOURE JUST PROLIGING IT

sweet crypt
#

Frustrating to use

#

Frustrating to fight against

graceful osprey
#

DIE

sweet crypt
#

Rest is good though

#

Self inflicted and always lasts 2 turns

graceful osprey
#

I hate protect in singles

sweet crypt
#

You know exactly how to play with and around it

graceful osprey
#

It's so annoyong

#

In double it makes sense

#

In singles it's just a fuck you or a toxic stall

sweet crypt
#

I hate Freeze

graceful osprey
#

I love freeze

sweet crypt
#

You're either thawing instantly or never thawing ever

graceful osprey
#

It's why I have my zygarde

vernal garnet
#

dont forget it allows for extra lefties healing

sweet crypt
#

That's what it feels like

#

And of course whenever I get it it's the former

#

And whenever someone else gets it it's the latter

#

I've been playing Pokerogue recently

#

And god damn

#

Why does it feel like Tri Attack is freezing me 30% of the time?

#

It's almost as bad as Chewtle Bite flinching 10 times in a row

#

But at least that one is being performed by a Chewtle

#

And not threatening mons like Magnezone and Pory-Z

graceful osprey
#

I love space duck

sweet crypt
#

I wouldn't call it a space duck

#

I'd call it a duck with a few (many) glitches and maybe a computer virus

graceful osprey
#

Porygon z is space duck

sweet crypt
#

Worst typo in the world

#

Number 1

graceful osprey
#

Why are the u and I so close

#

Oh shit

#

A free adamant mint?

#

Sign me up

sweet crypt
#

Anyways, Pory-Z one of my favourite Sinnoh mons

graceful osprey
#

I hate how there's like

sweet crypt
#

Tied with other top favourites like Mamoswine

graceful osprey
#

4 good natures

#

Every other one is useless

#

Modest
Admant
Speed up sp atk down
Speed up atk down

sweet crypt
#

Jolly and Timid?

graceful osprey
#

Sure

#

I don't remeber the names

sweet crypt
#

Defensive natures are great too

graceful osprey
#

But that sounds about rifht

sweet crypt
#

As long as they lower your worse Attack

#

Or your Speed

#

Slow trick room attackers also go for speed lowering natures

graceful osprey
#

I built my umbreon like a psychopath

sweet crypt
#

The only natures you'd never want are Defence lowering natures

graceful osprey
#

I need to check to see what build she currently has

#

The guard swap or the toxic stall

sweet crypt
#

My "6th" favourite Pokemon is a title held by "a few" Pokemon

graceful osprey
#

My favorite is umbreon

#

It's almost a mainstay of all my runs

#

It's funny how many battles it wins

#

Simply cause it don't die

lyric radish
#

on my gen 3 only run

sweet crypt
#

Namely, Chien-Pao, Ultra Necrozma, Iron Boulder, Iron Moth, Iron Valiant, Frosmoth, Chandelure, Mamoswine, Porygon-Z, Palkia-O, Gigalith, Darmanitan, Ferrothorn, Buzzwole, Kartana, Joltik, Kingambit, Marshadow, Eternatus, Meowscarada and probably even more Pokemon I haven't ranked yet

lyric radish
#

started with 1

sweet crypt
#

"6th"

#

"A few"

lyric radish
#

got that primal found another ogre and just got that primal

graceful osprey
#

A much a broken mons

#

Then tiny lil' spooder

sweet crypt
#

A lot of cool Pokemon are broken

#

Not my fault

graceful osprey
#

Tell me about it

sweet crypt
#

Then there's mons like Gigalith

#

Who look cool

#

But are shit

#

And it makes me sad :(

graceful osprey
#

One of my favorite mons is hisuian arcanine

#

It looks so cool

#

I hate it's shiny

sweet crypt
#

I dont really hate many shinies

#

But I don't like many either

#

Lunala's has to be my favourite though

graceful osprey
#

Hehheehee

sweet crypt
#

Literal blood moon

graceful osprey
#

So my uh

sweet crypt
#

Holy peak

graceful osprey
#

The beat shiny is umbreons

#

Not even close

sweet crypt
#

Yknow if Lunala's base colour scheme wasn't so fucking peak

#

I might prefer the shiny

#

Problem is that you cannot improve perfection

graceful osprey
#

My slowbro has that setup

#

Leftovers

#

Substitute

sweet crypt
#

But Shiny Lunala gets close

graceful osprey
#

Iron defense

#

Amnesia

#

Stored power

#

that setup

sweet crypt
#

That's not a Funbro