other-pokemon-games

[timber siren]

Im pretty sure there is LA mons

But thry don’t appear as starters

Cuz they are other forms

Sinde bloodmoon ursaluna is in this game

Well

THASY not LA but Yk

Since that’s wild I think you just encounter it

[latent totem]

they're night evos

the hisuian forms are night evolutions

so use a sunstone on lilligant at night

[clear hornet]

ahh, good to know. Thanks the both of you

[timber siren]

Still msd most of their abiltys don’t work from what I’ve seen

Unseen fist I need you..

[clear hornet]

Yeah unfortunate, I would definitely use Totodile's HA if it was implemented. But I shall be patience for the day that happens

[timber siren]

Sadly foraligator isn’t that good in modern game

I’m not sure if he can be good in this game

[latent granite]

All pokemon in pokerogue are viable some are obviously better, but all are viable

[timber siren]

Fair

[latent granite]

Such as reshiram having access to oricalcum pulse

Or adaptability protean kecleon

Heck noctowl can get oblivion wing and esper wing

[unkempt egret]

or delcatty with ||sketch||

[latent granite]

Mantyke passive is storm drain thus it doesn't need water absorb and can go swift swim or it's HA

[latent totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXw9Co7z-3k&list=PL8npkppX--icH-ri0hA_sQGal_zvT8DU_&index=988 don't mind me, just vibin to this banger

[latent granite]

Someone also made a smash bros version for if grovyle was a character

[latent totem]

https://tenor.com/view/breakdance-of-time-pmd-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-riolu-gif-13361005654725912571

Primal dialga themes that include don't ever forget man

that shit's on another level

[clear dew]

its sad that i already have a shiny lokix lol, i have to kill it

[latent granite]

Palkia's onslaught was a good track but fight to the finish overshadows it

[latent totem]

https://youtu.be/hXw9Co7z-3k?list=PL8npkppX--icH-ri0hA_sQGal_zvT8DU_&t=298

timestamped

[latent granite]

Star cave is one of my favorite areas music wise

[latent totem]

https://tenor.com/view/ascension-sponge-bob-gif-15077046

[brisk hedge]

Given the context of this fight, it’s kind of weird they’re taking the time to break dance

[latent totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MikHLVmp0I&list=PL8npkppX--icH-ri0hA_sQGal_zvT8DU_&index=1145

[timber siren]

Are fusions this common?

[latent totem]

"hey dialga, whats stun seed backwards?"
"ITS DEES NUTS YOU-"
YEET

[latent granite]

I hit him with a vile seed everytime

[latent totem]

[timber siren]

Bringing out ur 2018 side

[clear dew]

yes and no, after some boss floors (the 50 segments, 50, 100, 150 etc....) you tokens which give buffs to the wild mons, one of those being a fusion token, with each one adding 1% for an encounter to me fused

[timber siren]

Ahhh I’m so mad I lost to eternatus last time

[clear dew]

HOWEVER, if you beat classic with a fused mon on your team you unlock endless splcied, which makes EVERYTHHING fused

[timber siren]

I just want endless more and more

[timber siren]

OW

wow

And I had one..

So sad I lost it

[clear dew]

yeah, oh but wait

[timber siren]

Pls game gige me fusion splicers

[clear dew]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-movie-shawn-wayans-but-wait-theres-more-theres-more-funny-gif-14263131

[timber siren]

WHAT

[clear dew]

say you have a super rare shiny and you go to do an endless spliced run, if you have a shiny, the game will match your shiny and fuse it with another shiny of the same rarity

[timber siren]

That’s so cool

[latent granite]

It can in theory make the game easier and harder at the same time

[timber siren]

True

[clear dew]

there's different levels of shiny pokemon if you didnt know, theres basic/rare/super rare, aka: rank 1/2/3

[latent granite]

Cause you have no control over what it fuses to your starters

[clear dew]

you can legit start an endless spliced with full SSS luck

[clear dew]

exactly, but it will match the shiny rarity when it auto fuses your starters

[timber siren]

If I do get splicers do you guys have any suggestions

My team will probably stay like this for the rest of the game lmao

Unless I find a better mon

[clear dew]

yall wanna see my favorite fusion ive made?

[timber siren]

Sure

My first one was blaziken torterra

[clear dew]

Bellikataka

LOOK AT HIM RIDING HIS MECH

[latent granite]

I focus primarily on typing and ability for splicers

[timber siren]

OMG STAKATAKA IS GOLDEN

[timber siren]

Well yea haha I mean what to fuse

[clear dew]

the shiny is yes*, i got lucky and found a boss shiny, then fused it and made the best thing ever

[clear hornet]

my first fusion was Tyrantrum and Guzzlord

[clear dew]

bellikataka

[timber siren]

Lmao

Aslo I’ve only seen one fusion so it is just a pallet mix??

[clear dew]

LOOK AT HIM THOUGH, HE WAS RIDING HIS MECH INTO BATTLE

[timber siren]

Lol

[clear dew]

so the party sprite will be top/bottom (top being the base and bottom being the side stuff), base mon keeps the nature and any passive (and first type, but thats a given), 2nd mon gives the ability and lets the base mon learn its moves

and if you unfuse you keep the moves, but everything else goes back

[timber siren]

Uhm Joseph I think you missed my question (not trying to be rude)

I was just asking about the designs

Since what I see is it only pallet mix?

Or is it like IF

[clear dew]

ooh, yeah yeah

it will take the color pallet of the 2nd mon and put it over the base

my fault

[timber siren]

ahh Alr thx and what you said is useful so dw

I’ve only had one fusion😭

[latent granite]

It is more like a color filter over top the primary body

[timber siren]

Also cuz

Idk what type it will be

If both have two types.

[timber siren]

Oh Alr

[clear dew]

for example, skereon lol

skeledirge/vaporeon

[timber siren]

Wow taht looks sick

[latent granite]

The first pokemon you select will be the primary and they keep their first type, second will be the color filter and keep 2nd type and ability

[clear dew]

i mentioned this already

[timber siren]

Oh so if I chose like torterra and like Charizard and pick charizard firet it will be fire ground?

[latent granite]

Correct

[timber siren]

Alr thx guys

[clear dew]

ys and youll get overgrow

[latent granite]

It will also have torterra ability

[timber siren]

Just imagine weak Pokémon with broken abiltys lol

[latent granite]

So remember 2nd choice is 2nd type and ability

[timber siren]

Yea

I will remeber 100%

Cus I was so happy when I found splicers

[latent granite]

It can be difficult to decide on things sometimes

[timber siren]

Fr

Plus it depends on ur team

Like what if there’s just nothing good to fuse?

[clear dew]

it will also mix the stats, so pick fusions wisely

[latent granite]

My best fusion performancewise was a delphox dachsbun with well baked body

[latent totem]

Paras with crab hammer, sappy seed and first impression be like

[timber siren]

Lmao

[timber siren]

Such an unexpected fusion

Yet so good

[latent totem]

Huge power annihilape

[latent granite]

I tend to like the fusions with types we don't yet have

[latent totem]

that was my best fusion

[latent granite]

Fire/fairy for example

[timber siren]

Sigh if primarina was fairy water fiest I could’ve had that..

[clear dew]

it will get the the point in endless though where no matter what you do, if yo dont 1 shot the pokemon, arre immune to it, have sturdy or live off focus band, you will get 1 shot by any attacking moves

[timber siren]

Not even if ur super super bulky..?

[clear dew]

cause this

[clear dew]

yep, not even if you ahev super bulk

[timber siren]

Uh oh

[timber siren]

I get it lol

[latent granite]

Is featherless, bipedal, this is a man

[clear dew]

thats why alot of people will have some type of a fairy/steel for eternatus, it only knows eternabeam, sludge bomb, cosmic power and d dance

[unkempt egret]

at least in phase 1

[latent totem]

jokes on you, Lando turns into monke

[timber siren]

Can’t you just change his moveset?

[unkempt egret]

phase 2 adds four other moves, one of which is flamethrower

[latent granite]

In endless yes in classic it has flamethrower

[unkempt egret]

I think you can wall stage 1 to set up though

[timber siren]

WHAT?!

[clear dew]

no, eternatus will always have the same 4 moves in endless

[timber siren]

Ugh how the hell will I beat this thing

[timber siren]

You can’t even team him any tms??

[unkempt egret]

ah yea in endless it might be simpler

[clear dew]

and you dont get eternatus until you catch every single mon, and then go catch him in endless afterwards

[timber siren]

Aw man

[unkempt egret]

as for etern there are two main strats I've seen:

[latent totem]

if endless had the other moveset, it would be Impossible

[unkempt egret]

either set up on him before hand of throw a LOT of offensive debuffs on him when phase 2 starts (mud slap I like the most but attack lowering ones work too)

[latent totem]

quite litterally

[clear dew]

i stall with a prankster klefki, leech seed, salt cure and soak

for endless

but even in classic it works for phase 1

[clear hornet]

makes me think of fusing a steel type with Dachsbun to get well baked body. though I'm not sure how well that will work

[unkempt egret]

yea stall also works with moves like salt cure, whirlpool, thunder cage, and whatnot

[timber siren]

Good thing my charizard knows toxic

[unkempt egret]

that would indeed fully wall it, the main problem though is not running out of PP since it has pressure and is actively stealing your lum berries

[clear dew]

in phase 2 you gotta chip him down

[latent granite]

Could work

[timber siren]

Uxie has yawn

I just hope that’s enough

[clear dew]

...... do yu know the typing of eternatus?

[unkempt egret]

OH RIGHT

[timber siren]

Oh yeah

[unkempt egret]

make sure you transfer all of your items to the mon you're using LAST

[clear dew]

lol

[timber siren]

He’s poison I forgot..

Sigh

[timber siren]

Actually that’s not a bad idea

[unkempt egret]

because eternatus will be stealing all of your items in phase 2 and if it nicks something like sitrus berry or, god help you, a revival seed then it's gonna get a LOT of HP back

[clear dew]

and dont even try using status, dude has about 10 lum berries

[latent totem]

bring a salazzle them

[timber siren]

Damn

[unkempt egret]

in endless maybe but in classic I don't think it initially has any

[latent totem]

corrosion strats

[timber siren]

Wqit why

[clear dew]

pog

[timber siren]

Oh

[unkempt egret]

since the ones it otherwise gets will be stealing off you

[latent granite]

Toxic would only work with the ability corrosion, which is not yet implemented

[unkempt egret]

don't worry about some items though like type boosting ones that aren't fire, poison, and dragon or the ones that only affect you like golden punch and soothe bell, if it steals those then there's no real drawback if it's not endless

[latent totem]

they recently added it

[timber siren]

Then what’s the point in putting items

[clear dew]

or, if you use soak

[timber siren]

You need them for ur other mons

[latent granite]

So salazzle is viable now gotcha

[timber siren]

Hhe will just take them all😢

[unkempt egret]

for eternatus? well your items mattered in the other 199 floors...

[timber siren]

Fair

[unkempt egret]

but yea if it was possible then it'd be optimal to just throw away all of your held items on floor 199 for classic lol

[latent granite]

I just fight emax like a man no item swaps needed

[timber siren]

If I had gmax I think I’d defeat him..

[unkempt egret]

I did do that in a run but it was rough lol

[timber siren]

Or any mega

[latent totem]

nope

[timber siren]

Oh

[unkempt egret]

but yea if you see any accuracy debuff then that'll do wonders against him in phase 2

[latent totem]

Dynamax cannon does extra damage to Gmaxes

[latent granite]

Running max against him is a double edged sword, he gets a move with double power against gmax

[clear dew]

hell yeah

[timber siren]

WHAT

[unkempt egret]

it's a bit luck-based but once you get down to -2 or -3 then luck starts to get on your side

[timber siren]

God I didn’t know eh was this jard

Hard

Now my team dosnt seem so good,,

[unkempt egret]

there's a reason why I usually look for memory mushrooms starting on about floor 180

[unkempt egret]

minus floors 189-194 where I'm hyper gunning for x speed

[timber siren]

Good thing I’m seeing a lot

But my move sets are already perfect

[latent totem]

also funny aside

[unkempt egret]

but yea if something knows a debuff move then try grabbing one of those

[timber siren]

So it’s hard to replace tbh

[clear dew]

keep in mind though the x items only go for 5 floors

[unkempt egret]

if you're on floor 196-199 then overwriting anything that poison/dragon exists is already good

[timber siren]

What about sweet kiss

[latent totem]

the champion I've fought the most is cynthia

[unkempt egret]

yep, but having that buff on floor 195 specifically is critical

[latent totem]

she's appeared like 3 times

[clear dew]

oh i know

[unkempt egret]

I think I've fought eh steven or red the most with two

[timber siren]

I saw red once

Lost to him sadly

Wqir no

I beat him lol

[latent totem]

https://tenor.com/view/dawn-shake-pokemon-remake-cynthia-gif-20696246

[unkempt egret]

red was funny since I forgot what legend he even had since it got OHKO'ed on a switch

[timber siren]

He was pretty cool

[latent granite]

The x defenses are also good for last 10 waves

[latent totem]

is it mewtwo?

[timber siren]

Didn’t he have a Ho Oh??

[latent totem]

or ho oh?

[timber siren]

That’s what he had for me

[unkempt egret]

I think it was ho-oh and it got blown up by a stone edge

[timber siren]

Damn

[latent totem]

weird

[latent granite]

Blue has mewtwo

[latent totem]

I think lance should get ho-oh tbh

[timber siren]

Haha I love spamming zippy zap

These mons will never hit me

[latent totem]

since he's just a glorified bird keeper

[timber siren]

Dragon tera ho oh

Tho thst wouldn’t make sense I think

[latent totem]

Lmao

[timber siren]

Man should just Become a flying type

[latent totem]

dude practically is

every one of his team member has the flying type

[timber siren]

Honeslty idk why they call him dragon type

[latent totem]

Gyrados, aerodactyl, charizard, his 3 illegal dragonites

[timber siren]

Why does he even have 3 dragonite😭

He’s just picking fake dragons

[latent totem]

because gen 1 and 2 didn't have any other dragons

lmao

[timber siren]

Damn

[latent totem]

except Kingdra, but his cousin, claire already has that as her ace

[unkempt egret]

Lance the Flying King

[timber siren]

Yeah idk it don’t fit him

I get why it’s dragon cus they already have flying type gym leaders

[latent totem]

Bird Keeper lance

[timber siren]

lmao

[latent granite]

At least fighting his rematch in let's go gave him more dragons

[timber siren]

Fr

[unkempt egret]

fitting how the first and last bosses in johto's maingame are both bird keeprs

[latent totem]

wha- no it didn't

[timber siren]

Did it not?

[latent totem]

Let go only had the original 151 to work with

[timber siren]

Oh yeah

[latent totem]

and alolan forms

[timber siren]

Oof

[latent totem]

but there was only like one dragon type alolan form

and it was eggexcutor

[unkempt egret]

gen 1, back when types were signature

[timber siren]

Him being dragon is just funny

[latent granite]

Still more dragon types than he had before

[latent totem]

gengar straight up being the only ghost type in the region

[timber siren]

Dawg wtf are these stats..

How do you have 1 max HP😭

@latent totem hey this is on a salazzle who is 110 and I’m at 142

Shoild I catch this

It had corrosion

It has

[latent granite]

Shedinja has always had one hp

[timber siren]

True

[latent totem]

if you wanna toxic strats eternatus, then sure

[latent granite]

Though be aware it full restores for phase 2

[latent totem]

yeah, so wait until then

[timber siren]

Damn

Well I got to its second phase but didn’t see the one thing cuz I died

[latent totem]

might as well have 1 hp in endless mode, lmao

[latent granite]

Speaking of which wonder guard always sets max HP to one in pokerogue and infinite fusion

[timber siren]

Wtf I think my game is broken,

Shiny Rayquaza not show up

Even tho he sparkles

WHAT THE ATDULA FUCK WHY DOES RAY KNOW V CREATE

BRUH HOW DO I WIN THIS..

[native saddle]

who should i fuse

[latent granite]

My precious baby, game finally gave me a shiny of one of my favorites

Now if only I could get timid or modest nature for noibat

[unkempt egret]

late but throw something on linoone so you have a better pickup mon

[native saddle]

will do, cheers

[latent granite]

Pickup and magician are super useful for pokerogue

[unkempt egret]

simi probably has the least to lose since it's already mono-typed anyway

and isn't super interested in its ability

[latent granite]

That being said in my current endless run I fused my linoone to entei and it has 7 silk scarfs and extreme speed so it one shots a lot of things

[timber siren]

YOOOOO

150 boss is

Emboar

Do I catch?

23}}

Well he’s not bsd tbh

Alr I catch but not use lol

[latent granite]

Once you get rock head unlocked for emboar he is even better

[timber siren]

True

That one DID have rock hesd

But I already have a great fighting type and a great fire type

I don’t really want type overlaps

[clear dew]

AY YO

[timber siren]

W

[latent granite]

I have legit ran into archeludon in the first set of 10 waves

[pure star]

running into an archaludon on round 10 or 20 is like the game just targeting you lmao

[latent granite]

I had a reshiram in that run

It for some reason used the shock shot thingy instead of a dragon move so I beat it

[pure star]

i'm running kartana so i can breeze through the early game like it's nothing

just for the random fully evo'd/1 stage evo mons

[latent granite]

Buzzwole is also good for early

[pure star]

kartana has bitter blade so it's crazy good even without stab

idk what buzzwole has tho

[unkempt egret]

I got arch on level 50 on classic and it was a nightmare to catch rofl

[pure star]

my rival had a dracovish on 25 on classic once

in the rain

[latent granite]

Yeah I have had that it isn't fun

Based on my rivals team and if I have a map I try to take her team somewhere the weather is in my favor

[finite ingot]

when a level 1 attacks a level 7971 do you even see the health bar go down?

[latent granite]

Mostly likely not

Since it would only do 1 dmg

Besides with pokerogue you can set hp bar speed to instant

[pure star]

a level 1 mon would prob do 0 damage lmao

i've seen an attack do 0% on showdown but idk if it would apply to pokerogue

[latent granite]

In mainline games pokemon can do a minimum of 1 dmg

[finite ingot]

maybe the move was blocked in some way

[latent granite]

Showdown I'm not sure about since it doesn't interest me

[pure star]

it wasn't since it had the damage pop-up say 0%

[latent granite]

If I play showdown it would only be against friends, and probably with rules like all one type, something like a gym leader battle royale

[pure star]

it was against an aggron with a 6 stage def boost lmao

[finite ingot]

and was it resisted?

[latent granite]

Metronome only battles can be fun

[pure star]

yeah

[finite ingot]

i once won a battle with a level 10 togepi against a level 16 geodude. The togepi was my only mon left for some reason and it was on 4hp. Only attacking move was metronome

First hit: endeavour

Geodude: Rock Polish

Second hit: magma storm

[latent granite]

Used to do all metronome battles in pokemon stadium with my brothers, was hilarious seeing Snorlax fly

[latent granite]

Oooo that purple is cool

[latent totem]

Nice

Double legend too

[latent granite]

He can only catch one though, we uh know which one but still

[unkempt egret]

"you vs. the mon she tells you to worry about"

[latent granite]

If only I could be luckier with my legendaries,

[vernal garnet]

fr

[latent granite]

I have only two shiny legends g moltres and reshiram

Both regular shiny

[vernal garnet]

ooo g moltres is kinda rare right?

[latent granite]

Shiny g moltres pays homage to regular moltres too

[vernal garnet]

yup

[latent granite]

I'd post the screenshot but I'm at work atm

[clear dew]

WAIT

WAIT WAIT

HOLD UP

the sprite is shiny, but there is no shiny icon

[latent granite]

Catch it to be sure

[clear dew]

oh of course, im masterballing it lol

[vernal garnet]

thats original forme magearna?

[clear dew]

idk

[clear dew]

so not shiny?

damn

[latent granite]

Oh right isn't original form shiny black not red?

[vernal garnet]

yeah

[latent granite]

My brother got the rare shiny for fuecoco and it looks very similar to this

[clear dew]

ive only ever hatched 1 fuecoco and not anyone more sense, I WANT MORE EGG MOVES

[latent granite]

That would be me with torchic

I have only hatched a single torchic

And haven't even see any wild of the line

I also still don't have a single gouging fire

[latent granite]

here is the shiny g moltres

[pure star]

yippee

i love celesteela

[latent granite]

i took this screenshot before berserk was implemented

[latent granite]

missile ready for launch

[latent granite]

https://i.imgur.com/sq3VX63.png im not too far behind

[pure star]

my kartana is literally the only thing on my team that can deal damage lol

at some point i'm gonna build something else but not right now

[latent granite]

I have at least my entei linoone fusion to fall back on or my honchkrow breloom fusion

I was tempted to fuse the mega mawile to entei for huge power and fire/ fairy but I knew that eternatus was coming up at the time

[pure star]

eternatus upon getting cursed and leech seeded:

[latent granite]

That would do it

[latent granite]

So what wave does emax start showing up in endless?

[pure star]

1000

it's every 1000 stages

[latent granite]

Ah ok

[pure star]

actually a scary fight too

if he gets a reviver seed you prob won't win

[latent granite]

I imagine so, considering it takes so long to get to each 1000

[latent granite]

Especially if he has max endure tokens

[tacit tiger]

i think the blue one teras normal and explodes

[latent granite]

so a glorified grenade, like mega glalie

sounds like a wasted slot to me

[pure star]

why does this color scheme look so cool

[latent granite]

he seems to be cooking with gas.... gengas

[tacit tiger]

goddamit 2 of the sinnoh legends in a row

[latent granite]

is that a bad thing?

[tacit tiger]

yeah I want a cooler legend

[latent granite]

i hope either the rare shiny or epic shiny is the primal dialga color scheme

[latent granite]

that one is a matter of opinion, some people like things i dont like and vice versa

[clear dew]

woo, new shiny sprite dusknoir

[latent granite]

wait that isnt the normal shiny, so why does it say it is

[clear dew]

they did some updated sprites for some shinies

this is still basic shiny, but new colors

[latent granite]

oh? so maybe garchomp is better shiny then

also i know one of the shiny colors for regice is black with blue eyes

[latent totem]

Yep

Base replacement

[latent totem]

Some pokemon have their shinies replaced

Notably ones that either dont match their previous evos or barely change

[latent granite]

so like i said?

[pure star]

bruh

[latent granite]

take your pick

https://i.imgur.com/86zYsf2.png welp

https://i.imgur.com/NodOBaY.png oooo i already hatched a shiny now i also have the HA

[pure star]

electric tree from an egg :3

[latent granite]

sometimes the ai seems to desire death

[wispy shell]

wait...Im sorry....level 1158!?

[hard plume]

endless mode baby

[latent granite]

that is nothing, ive seen people with levels above 20k

[wispy shell]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-its-over9000-gif-14419267

[latent granite]

you can actually get items that sustain themselves so you can ACTUALLY go endlessly

[pure star]

:3

[hard plume]

i've seen toxipexes throwing poison type moves on my little baby
and a wash rotom struggle to destroy my numel

[latent granite]

though a steel/fairy type is a must

[finite ingot]

How do you even get them that high?

[pure star]

candy jar

[hard plume]

brute force and strategy

[latent granite]

every 10 waves increases the level cap

[finite ingot]

That's 64 billion EXP

[hard plume]

should I just catch this guy to end his misery, or should I keep going?

[pure star]

64 quadrillion actually

[latent granite]

make em suffer

[pure star]

my gengar had 1,000,000 times that much actually

[latent granite]

ah yes the drunk batman song

[hard plume]

it's name is chacarron, actually
but who cares

[finite ingot]

the g max gengar has 64 billion

it doesn't have one milian more???

[hard plume]

anyway I'm hoping to get another dna splicer so I can fuse my tinkaton with my gmax corviknight

[latent granite]

gmax gengar always makes me think of Atomos from final fantasy

[pure star]

it has 64 quadrillion exp

64 billion would be 64,000,000,000

[latent granite]

ah a corviknight enjoyer, also you are mixing the rival pokemon? blasphemy

[hard plume]

dude I fused my rhyperior with my wo-chien to create my makeshift torterra guy

if I want to fuse the rivals together, then so be it

I want my Tinkaknight

[latent granite]

im imagining a tinkaton in heavy platemail now

[pure star]

wait maybe it's 64 trillion

am i stupid??

[latent granite]

14 digits

[pure star]

maybe it had sum quadrillion when it was at lvl 44k idk

[pure star]

we are both wrong lmao

[finite ingot]

i still got it right eventually though

[latent granite]

i wanna know how much hp a level 20k blissey would have

[finite ingot]

do you guys think the starter trio of grass/steel, water/electric, and pure fire is balanced?

[pure star]

slightly less than e-max eternatus at 20k

[latent granite]

emax doesnt count

it is literally made for the purpose of being a boss

[pure star]

but it still has an hp stat

[latent granite]

so does shedinja

[finite ingot]

ps the fire is a pretty defensive mon with decent sp.a
the grass is a tank
the water is a speedy attacker

[latent granite]

the water is physical or special?

[finite ingot]

physical

i like to mix stuff up

actually that might make most electric type moves really weak i might not do that

[latent granite]

im not sure balanced is the right word, cause the fire type doesnt have a fair chance against the water type

[finite ingot]

No fire starter is going to beat the water starter anyway

[latent granite]

spark is a decent physical move, so is wild charge, and plasma fists

[finite ingot]

yeah there are a lot more than i thought

[latent granite]

in a competitive scene perhaps but in pve not true, cause otherwise no one would be able to beat the early generation games

[finite ingot]

except the starter doesn't have fists

[finite ingot]

i mean... just like

use another mon to beat the opponent's starter?

[latent granite]

most kids only leveled their starter

[hard plume]

fuse a dark type with that duder and you got yourself a killer

[finite ingot]

i mean anyway the fire starter is 4x effective to the grass starter sooo....

[latent granite]

not counting wash rotom the only water/electric pokemon i can think of is lanturn and chinchou

[pure star]

it would have 138,810 hp

wait nvm

it has 255 hp

[finite ingot]

that's all there is

[pure star]

it would have 140,810

[latent granite]

no small amount, but considering her other stats it is not big enough

[pure star]

it's special def is fine

but at the point your mons are at that level everything will one shot you no matter your def

lul

[timber siren]

I think I’m slow omg

I’m in water area and just put fire tera on my Raichu💀

Cuz none of my other ones work and I just wanted a fire Raichu

[latent granite]

yikes

[timber siren]

I pray to god

To arecus

[hard plume]

when you forget to bring your fire type move to a steel type pokemon fight

[timber siren]

It’s not a gym leader

Tho thankfully I have a grass type

[timber siren]

This hurts

[latent granite]

some of the ai movesets are questionable

[timber siren]

Shiftry

[hard plume]

surely they would've covered all their bases
hell, there were some boss fights where I had to legit come up with strategies and refresh the page

[timber siren]

Witj mirical seed is kinda good

[hard plume]

and then you get those fights

[timber siren]

Miracle

Lol leaf blade sweep I hope

[latent granite]

i havent actually had one like that other than endless eternatus with a steel/ fairy

[timber siren]

NOOO

ITS A GYM LEASER

ITS MARLON..

I’m so over

[latent granite]

ah smiley swimsuit as a neo plasma grunt called him

[timber siren]

When

Good thing I have urshifu

[latent granite]

https://i.imgur.com/OCBS4qQ.png so i fused my epic shiny mantine to my shiny plusle

[timber siren]

Ik kinda shcooed I haven’t got map yet lol

[timber siren]

Wtf that shiny is amazing

[hard plume]

classic mode is where I had to do an asston of juggling

trying to predict the AI's next move

[latent granite]

meanwhile i just went all in

and won somehow

[hard plume]

thank the gods for berry pouch

otherwise I would lose the stalemate

[latent granite]

no like seriously berry pouch is a godsend

[timber siren]

OMG

WHAT DOES CURSED BODY DO

[latent granite]

bro im at 618 and the game STILL hasnt given me a single golden punch, shiny charm or lock capsule

[timber siren]

MY URSHIFU JUST GOT IT..

[latent granite]

when hit by a move it has a chance to disable said move

[timber siren]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

NOT WICKED BLOW

oh good thing I run Ariel ace

[latent granite]

isnt wicked blow not implemented yet?

[timber siren]

And I’m facing fighting type

It is

Just unseen fist is not

[latent granite]

so water urshi is not at 100% power yet

[timber siren]

sadly no

But damn they are strong

I mean I practically KO anything

[latent granite]

water urshi was the one i picked without knowing much about things, cause i knew the drunken fist like style was cool

[timber siren]

True

And surging strikes is OP

[latent granite]

again i went off overall vibe, surging strikes was a bonus

[timber siren]

I don’t really understand the overall vibe choice but still understandable

Urshifu is pretty cool

[latent granite]

i have always used pokemon i like weither they are good or not

[timber siren]

Fwir

Fair

That’s why I chose fire terra

Raichu

Cus it looks cool

[latent granite]

even if it was at a bad time

[timber siren]

Fr lmao

Plus he survived water spout cus last time for some reason he got OHKO

[latent granite]

water spout is strong when used with more hp

[timber siren]

Yea that wailword was at full hp.. so that makes sense

[latent granite]

eruption is the fire type version of the move

[timber siren]

Ahh makes sense

Plus mjst use zippy zap for +6 evasion and ur good

Nothing hits me

[latent granite]

feint attack, aerial ace, shadow punch

[timber siren]

Oh..

You right

Well most things don’t hit me

[latent granite]

i feel like im forgetting one more never miss move

and now i did a mistake i sent a mega mawile out into an excadrill

lol

hmmm how good would an adamant dragonite fused with a pheramosa be

[hard plume]

the iron moth got rekt

[latent granite]

you were still fighting it?

[hard plume]

well I wasn't dying from it

[latent granite]

clearly

if that video is anything to go off of

[hard plume]

the moves it had were screech, metal sound, morning sun, and sludge wave

[latent granite]

https://youtu.be/xh9SNZ5RRw4?list=PLYE1fKXikiLIQ-lmLln8W5tFxKGFtpIcq youtube recommended gold, i WISH these paradoxes had actual battle themes

[hard plume]

it could've wrecked my tinkaton, had it actually have a fire type move

[latent granite]

area zero theme mixes with the unova legend theme so well actually

[hard plume]

seconded

[latent granite]

i just had to put down a latias cause not only would it only give me candies if i caught it, but the game predetermined i wouldnt catch it no matter how i did things

[latent granite]

now i gotta see if this guy did one for walking wake

https://youtu.be/l3HrXsE7JKA?list=PLYE1fKXikiLIQ-lmLln8W5tFxKGFtpIcq not quite what i was looking for, but i wouldve actually used this lugia

[latent granite]

and let me tell ya i am SUPER picky with anything related to lugia

but uh new profile pic aquired

https://i.imgur.com/YILqm2c.png LETS GO!!!

it keeps killing itself with double edge

im just gonna have to cut my losses with not catching terapagos

[latent granite]

only took till wave 672 for my first golden punch

https://tenor.com/view/its-been3000years-pokemon-pokemon-x-and-y-az-floette-gif-14838348

https://i.imgur.com/WvxBdj7.png

for this as well

[timber siren]

HOLLLYY

HELL

PRIMARINA CLUTCH

I knew it was a good choice catching you..

But my whole team dead

NOW AY HAU?

[latent granite]

ah you got the alolan e 4

[timber siren]

No lol

It’s random

[latent granite]

not from what ive seen, it is always the appropriate champion, at least in my classic runs they were

[timber siren]

Well from what I’ve seen it wasn’t ALOAN at all lmao

I think

Cuz

Well idk cuz. Didnf see any of these in sun and moon

OMG HE HAS A LUNALA..

[latent granite]

Hau was the champion of ultra sun ultra moon

[timber siren]

YEA

[latent granite]

and the e4 were slightly different in them as well

[timber siren]

Oh my fucking god I’m gonna lose my shit..

I didn’t know primarina was THIS good

[latent granite]

what nature was it?

and... im stuck in the ocean cycle

https://i.imgur.com/BzVUwpm.png ooooo

[tacit tiger]

the shiny so good you gotta gatekeep the mon

[native saddle]

who do i splice?

[latent totem]

I had one time where cynthia just appeared out of the blue lmao

[real nebula]

what game is that?

[vocal hamlet]

pokérogue, a pokemon browser game

[sleek jewel]

whats even happening

who tf made this game

were they on something or do they want chaos or carnage or something

the man who had the idea to make this is looked like this

and when he made it he looked like these

(ps i will probably get a mute for sending these XD eh worth it)

[latent totem]

how has this channel be taken over by this game yet people still keep asking "what game is that?"

[latent totem]

guy called sam

though he's since resigned as the lead dev

he was in this server for a bit, but seems he's gone now

[real nebula]

oh idk its 6 am for me i havent slept and i never look in here sorry haha

[latent totem]

your good lol

just strange to me

[timber siren]

Who knows

Also omg I’m stuck at a rival battle rn

At the end of the game

I keeo resetting cuz I don’t wanna lose🤯😭

[latent granite]

https://i.imgur.com/zOH3QTh.png gonna be here a while...

can grip claw steal the black hole?

[timber siren]

Bruh this guys hurricane keeos killing my whole team..

I swear if I have to reset I can’t do this😭

This literally took like 2 days

Does anyone know if there’s a way to see what

Uh

Moves ivy has

Wifh any of her Pokémon

[hard plume]

man I wish I could help you, but the wiki hasn't catalogued any of that

the only way you can succeed is to do a lot of juggling and strategizing

[latent granite]

the wiki did get one thing wrong, it is a rare shiny rayquaza not an epic shiny

[hard plume]

my best suggestion is that you build your team around this:
-starter
-pokemon that can combat your starter's weakness
-pokemon that can combat the one that is combating your starter's weakness

[tacit tiger]

i wonder what the epic shiny looks like

[latent granite]

not sure havent even seen a regular yet in game

[hard plume]

there are different shinies?

[tacit tiger]

yeah

[latent granite]

there are three tiers of shiny

[tacit tiger]

common rare epic

[hard plume]

god I wish I can see all of those

[latent granite]

regular yellow, blue which is rare, red which is epic

the color of the star icon tells you which it is

speaking of shinies https://i.imgur.com/ADK0ovV.png

[hard plume]

well i have a regular shiny

again, wish there was a shiny database

[tacit tiger]

I fucking remembered again that Corviknight has a sub 500 bst

[latent granite]

surely mewtwo is one of the legendaries of the lab area in pokerogue

[tacit tiger]

what a good stat spread does to a motherfucker

[hard plume]

i'm gonna fuse it with my tinkaton

tink is head and corvi is body

[latent granite]

it also has an amazing base shiny

[timber siren]

Broo I’m actually shivering

I’m at 198 I don’t feel like I can beat eternatus😭

It took me so long to beat ivy

[latent granite]

having played a lot of roguelikes, sometimes it can be better to start over, frustrating yes, sometimes necessary

https://i.imgur.com/LzXF8j8.png im grossed out

[unkempt egret]

late but for corvi it's not even "good stat spread" it's "what the steel type does to a birb"

[latent granite]

considering it gets iron defense body press it is good stat spread

[unkempt egret]

isn't it's defense still around like 105-110?

[latent totem]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-gif-21882904

[timber siren]

No man rhis my second attempt 😢

And like

I can get to the second phase easily

I think it’s my moveset now as I don’t have a lot f

Status ones

I have momento and yawn

But eternatus so strong

[latent granite]

you willingly use memento?

[timber siren]

No

I just used it when I was getting near eternatus

It’s on my Uxie

So I just yawn him damage and use momento

So I don’t get 1 shot

If I could set up tbh I’d be easier but I don’t have like any set up moves

[latent granite]

you dont have mystical power on uxie?

[timber siren]

Oh I do

But he wakes up so fast so and he’s faster

So I can only get like three hits

[latent granite]

im assuming you didnt get any quick claws

[timber siren]

Sadly no

Ig I’ll try to a new run cuz I can’t really win lol

Ig it kinda sucks cus my urshifu got dsrk scroll

And three hits on a boss would be really useful

Not just one

[latent granite]

hey if you are lucky ivy may have a blissey this time around for massive exp

[timber siren]

Oh I hope so lol

Tho my Uxie did hold a lucky egg

So that was helpful

Yoo munchlax has pokerus

@latent granite do you thing using magnemite for a run woukd be good

Cuz it immediately takes away the sludge bomb thing

And fairy are weak to Poision

[latent granite]

magnezone was in my 1st winning run

[timber siren]

Oh that’s good

[latent granite]

but again in classic eternatus has flamethrower so be aware

[timber siren]

Yea faor

So idk what type to bring then😢

I mean water fairy is good

But that’s all I think of

[latent granite]

fairy, psychic, steel and ground are good against eternatus

you could always try for a fairy steel with well baked body from dachsbun

[timber siren]

Yeah sure. Thx I will try that

I’m just hoping this run I get the water scroll

For kubfu

Wicked blow isn’t bad but Yk

[latent granite]

the problem will be getting the dna splicers

[timber siren]

True

I could add a shiny I spent all my tickets on shiny

So I hope I can hatch one

[latent granite]

ah ye olde black white exp farming tool https://i.imgur.com/a18vfAV.png

https://i.imgur.com/f6XoZYL.png that is a shiny flower of ruin

[hard plume]

derp

[latent granite]

how.... how do you not have ANY grass moves on a grass type

[timber siren]

Hey btw what phase does eternatus have flamethrower

I’m gonna use a pineco

[latent granite]

phase 2

[timber siren]

Ok good

It has lunge

So I just hope I can get lucky this run

[latent granite]

i dont think eternatus has any physical attacks for lunge to be worth anything

[hard plume]

ai is a crapshoot

also that abomasnow was trying to utilize the power of sheer cold

[latent granite]

meanwhile all the abomasnow i encounter have wood hammer

[hard plume]

and didn't know that other ice types have immunity to that move

[timber siren]

It says it lowers his attack

Momento sucks

Cuz you have to die

And it’s not worth losing a mon

[hard plume]

well this just got interesting

[latent granite]

it lowers physical attack, not special

[timber siren]

Oh

Does he have all special moves??

[latent granite]

usually yeah

[timber siren]

Damn

That sucks

If taunt was in this game it would so useful lol

Hey @latent granite do you think keeping leer on a bulky pokenon is good

[latent granite]

question to you do yo have a hisuan sneasle? if you do dire claw can inflict sleep, paralyze, and poison

[timber siren]

Ah sadly I don’t😢

If. Do find one I’ll try and catch it

Idk if I’ve encounterd any Hisuian Pokémon yet tho

[latent granite]

they are quite rare, only one i saw was a hisui zoroark fused to something else in an endless spliced run

it ended my run cause it kept breaking out

[timber siren]

Damn

[hearty fossil]

How to do daylight robbery in pokerouge

[latent granite]

https://i.imgur.com/7py1OR7.png shiny eevee aquired

[timber siren]

Man

[hearty fossil]

4 grip claw + thief

[timber siren]

I hatch all my normal eggs no shiny

Tho I did get aqua step on smth

[hearty fossil]

Story of my life

[timber siren]

So I’m happy for that

lol

I do have

Uhm

One rare egg😅

[latent granite]

i have legit hatched a massive amount of shiny rate eggs and not one shiny in 70 of them

[hearty fossil]

I did get shiny mespirit, i put all my luck there

[timber siren]

Damn..

I only have 3 shinys and honeslty thry all aren’t good Pokémon

[latent granite]

if you do fail a run make sure you beat at least 1 gym leader, for eggs

[timber siren]

Yea true

[latent granite]

wash rotom likes turning the ocean yellow

[timber siren]

Do you think fan rotom is good

In a run

[tacit tiger]

Victini is not a fucking gen 4 pokemon

[timber siren]

I caught one and thast my only form rn lol

[latent granite]

no it isnt, but they for some reason put it there cause of it being before snivy in the pokedex

[timber siren]

Makes sense

I’m pretty sure put it there to Honour somebidy

That’s what it says online

So not a big deal lol

[tacit tiger]

I mean also gen 5's selection is already full

[hard plume]

unfortunately this iron moth has brain cells

[latent granite]

this one's processor IS running

[hard plume]

had me in the first half, not gonna lie

unfortunately when you overheat, you get weaker

[latent granite]

too bad lapras doesnt get the free aurora veil in this game

[hard plume]

god I wish

but it has shell armor so it makes up for it

[timber siren]

Wtf I wasn’t expecting this Meowth to actually have decent stats

[latent granite]

you could keep for the ability

[timber siren]

100%

Fake out technician is very good

And I need pay day

[latent granite]

least till you get golden punch

[timber siren]

Yea

100%

Oh no a gym leader

😭

[hard plume]

oh technician is a really good ability to have

[timber siren]

Yea

[latent granite]

gym leaders are easy money what are you complaining about?

[timber siren]

I thought I wasn’t healed for a sec lol

It’s just cheren

[hard plume]

unless you are unprepared then get ready for a bad time

[timber siren]

Fr

Ugh I need a pikachu if I’m in a 2ater area

😭

Guys shouod I cstch chewtle

Is his evo even good..

[hard plume]

you get double weakness to grass
but your biting moves are really stronk

OR you get to block critical hits

[timber siren]

Oh that’s good

And he has naughty nature

Maybe I will keep for now lol

[latent granite]

gmax drednaw is also a thing

[timber siren]

Yea

[hard plume]

HEY NO FAIR
I can't earthquake both of these idiots not that there's a shiny in the mix

[timber siren]

Why’s that..

Oh

[latent granite]

just catch the shiny

[timber siren]

Well you’d have to kill the first one lol

Ugh my rival I should’ve healed

[hard plume]

mood

[timber siren]

Why did she have to have Poplio😭

[latent granite]

rival is always at specific numbers so you should've been paying attention

[timber siren]

How tf wilo I beat her with urshifu

Yea

I swear if I get water I’ll be so happy

Cus if. Get dsrk type it’s over

[tacit tiger]

idiot died from not watngin to get catched

[timber siren]

YOU SHOULDVE CATCHED

[latent granite]

no one said you have to take the dark scroll if it pops up

[timber siren]

Uxie is good

[timber siren]

Why wouldn’t you,.

You could just get unlucky and never get the scroll again

[latent granite]

cause i would be against a fairy type?

[timber siren]

Yea

But like I can always get better mons to switch in

I just don’t wanna not take it tbh

[latent granite]

i mean my 1st victory she had hisui typhlosion against my mewtwo i still took out her whole squad with mewtwo alone

[timber siren]

Yeah cuz that’s mewtwo man😭

[latent granite]

with adamant and no mega

[timber siren]

Mewtwo still strong

But I see ur point

My rare egg pls

DAMMIT

[latent granite]

i ended up never seeing either mega stone, but a quiet mint popped up right before eternatus and jumped my sp attack to 1160

[timber siren]

Wow

[latent granite]

negative speed though

[timber siren]

Oof

[latent granite]

just have to play with the cards you are dealt, unless it is disadvantageous

sometimes something works when you didnt expect it to

like my support zoroark set up for raiding in SV

it works surprisingly well

[timber siren]

Well that’s good

OMG

THE 30 boss is

Dewott

I’m so happy I found another starter

[latent granite]

it might evolve to hisui samurott

[timber siren]

Oh yeah

Well

[latent granite]

im still not sure how yet

[timber siren]

I might not want that

Cuz ivy will get primarina

[timber siren]

Somebody said you Rvolve it at night

Also dosnt Hisuian have worse stats..

[latent granite]

is that also the case with alola marowak?

[timber siren]

Probably

Well

My pikachu evolved at the beach

So you might have to evolve those at the beach for it?

Cuz it’s like Alola

That’s how i got aloan Raichu

[latent granite]

that sounds tedious

[timber siren]

Eh

If you have a map it’ll work

[latent granite]

map doesnt exist for endless cause endless can swap zones immediately or stay for the entire 10 waves

[timber siren]

NOOO DIDE I JABE 1 pokeball😭

[timber siren]

Oh

Damn

Idk if I can catch this dewott anymore sigh

I forgot to grab pokeballs

YOO I GOT IT

omg wait it’s stats are good let’s go

[timber siren]

NOOOO I SET UP SPIKES AND RIGHT AFTER SHEDNINJA CAME BRO😭

[hard plume]

uh oh

[clear hornet]

oh wow, rare egg move

[unkempt egret]

not bad

might head out and bop a raid later in the night but otherwise im tired since that was a 2 hour walk in 75 degree weather

[latent totem]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-sorprendido-shaquille-oneal-gif-23222312

[timber siren]

NO WAY LOL

Baton pass skeliderge..

If I even make it

Yooo Lopunny with cute charm..

Man and of course I fucking die

Honeslty sometimes I wish this game was easier..

[somber pawn]

How do y'all think some moves omitted from LA would work in another Legends game? There are plenty, but the most interesting ones in my opinion are:

• Sucker Punch/Thunderclap
• Protect and its variants
• Focus Punch
  Basically if these moves get into Legends ZA how do you think the'll work?

[clear hornet]

Lol I got the Glitched Shiny Rayquaza

[latent granite]

The shiny glaceon I caught earlier today was also glitched

[latent granite]

Thought for sure ray would be at the stratosphere

[clear hornet]

that is the Rival Fight

and this is my first wild shiny, nice

[latent granite]

Ah didn't notice the wave number

Considering this game uses a lot of mystery dungeon songs, part of me hopes it plays defy the legends for Rayquaza

[latent totem]

||it doesn't||

||you can just turn the music off and just play the song yourself tho||

[latent granite]

Fair

[latent totem]

thats what I've been doing after I've heard all the ingame music

I have my own playlist of tracks

[latent granite]

Sometimes I listen the game music sometimes I put my own playlist on

Though mine isn't just pokemon music

It only took til scarlet violet for my favorite mainline pokemon battle theme to be replaced from the Johto gym leader

The final boss theme from SV was top tier

[latent totem]

HGSS kanto gym leader theme

[latent granite]

I like all iterations of the Johto gym leader theme

[latent totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4SYTwP76qM

[latent granite]

This same guy made a custom battle theme for Gold/Ethan

It is cool

[latent totem]

HGSS went the hardest of any soundtrack, prove me wrong

[latent granite]

Unova was right behind that one

[unkempt egret]

I'm assuming that "masters" is cheating since that one does a remix for each E4 member

I think my strangest poke-music take is this:

I really like the champion theme in gen 3 but I don't think I've heard a remix of it yet that I've liked more than OG (not a knock on ORAS for once, this also extends to other remixes of it like the colo and B2W2 ones)

[latent granite]

Check Zame's remasters and remixes out, he did that iron leaves battle theme I posted in this chat last night

[unkempt egret]

probably, always interested in new musics

[latent totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSZTj4O7Xs0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slvKqu-6AZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyBkdZNT1DE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYTS2sJWcIs

genuinely can't top any of these

[unkempt egret]

also speaking of bangers I like how it's two gens in a row where the DLC finale just whipped up a random banger out of nowhere (the galarian birds theme for 8 and the posessed trainer theme for 9)

[latent granite]

This is still technically a sped up goldenrod city

The cycling theme

[latent totem]

still the best cycling theme

[latent granite]

Best surf music goes to hoenn

[unkempt egret]

I can see that but I have a soft spot for Sinnoh's surfing theme

[latent granite]

Also the sunken ship in gen 3 had a cool track

[unkempt egret]

that I'm not gonna dispute or undermine since agreed rofl

[latent totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP0m-PJozWo hmmmm nah

[unkempt egret]

the main issue with sinnoh surfing tho is that it goes on for a LOT longer then you usually get to hear it for

[latent totem]

Route 116

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-peak-fiction-one-piece-gif-26139262

[latent granite]

It is still funny that my least favorite trio other than registeel has one of my favorite legendary themes

[latent totem]

excuse I meant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saJKbcrFKME

[latent granite]

Route 113 is cool but doesn't have that spooky vibe the sunken ship had to it

[latent totem]

best hoenn theme

[latent totem]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-at-something-gif-22233433

bruh

are we not hearing the same thing?

[unkempt egret]

I was gonna say are you thinking of the shoal cave/new mauville/mt. pyre theme there

[clear hornet]

||I beaten Eternatus with Unown L as a Cheerleader||

[unkempt egret]

since sunken ship's is more... melancholic I think? it's hard to describe but I wouldn't say "spooky" lol

also ROFL

you can say that eternatus...

took the L.

[latent totem]

thats a lot more spoopy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc3LEjgPtIc

[unkempt egret]

still not sure why it plays in shoal cave tho lol

probably because the other cave theme feels more fitting for the earlygame caves?

since I think seafloor cavern and victory road get their own themes

[latent granite]

XYZ trio had an amazing battle theme, too bad they were easy to catch

Speaking of legendaries and hgss, hooh had the better theme of the two and lugia is my favorite legendary

[latent totem]

yes

[unkempt egret]

yea ho-oh's theme goes hard lol

[latent totem]

the lugia theme isn't bad

[unkempt egret]

I think lugia's is a remix of the one it had in XD?

[latent granite]

It isn't but it certainly wasn't on par with lugia's song from pokemon 2000

[latent totem]

nope, completely original

[latent granite]

Lugia's song from that movie still gives me goosebumps