#other-pokemon-games

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unkempt egret
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WOOO I SURVIVED FLOOR 150

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good thing snorlax is so tanky that it still took out two of nessa's pokemon on its own

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...and she also had no ground types for rising surge spam

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that also means that my next actual boss fight is on floor 180

limber quail
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Anyone here know competitive Pokemon?

clear hornet
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I don't even want to know where Lickitung gets the milk...

unkempt egret
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aight round 195 rival does not have the dang reviver seed on the mega ray

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hm....

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memory mushroom on floor 199

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do I get nature's madness and see how that plays out or do I grab leaf tornado for the accuracy drops?

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in theory NM should eat one shield per turn but I'm not sure

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well carnivine ate crow and died pretty much instantly (cross poison did 50% into dynamax cannon) but metal sound arch and cressy still saved the day anyway

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also random scovillian clear because I needed something to fill an empty slot after a second DNA splicer showed up on floor 188

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also late but for competitve do you mean 6v6 singles or 4v4 doubles?

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ignoring that I'm most familiar with 3v3 battle facility lol

ripe talon
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Wait so how does nature's madness work on eternatus?

clear hornet
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I've seen Ruination work on Eternatus so I think it's works as well

unkempt egret
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I don't know I didn't check? as I said I took leaf tornado but didn't get to use it

wispy sparrow
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👍

modern magnet
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You did amazing king

latent totem
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To be clear, the game will still continue development, it will just be moreso community led from the sounds of things

unkempt egret
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I see, good to bow out gracefully with how good the game currently is

tropic hinge
# wispy sparrow 👍

Genuinely, good for you, not just for making something that's so incredible, but also for knowing and having the strength to understand when you needed to step back for your own sake. Hope whatever you decide to do next you can go into it with your all. Great work man.

hard plume
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and then licks its body

hard plume
finite ingot
novel iron
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I just started a new Pokemon Black Randomized Playtrough and I got a Chikorita and a Druddigon

novel iron
full gate
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I'm quite lucky, not gonna lie.

hearty fossil
novel iron
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My Pokemon I have right now im in Training Dojo I think they are quite alright

sleek jewel
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must be nice

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wait cant you trade with yourself

latent totem
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new art made for the ending

tacit tiger
snow mountain
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I hate PokeRogue daily runs. Also the Croconaw has ice fang, which will kill both the other Pokemon on my team.

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Ok I managed to catch it thank god

pure star
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my mad god gengar that still gets obliterated by sucker punch

novel iron
shrewd summit
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do high level pokerogue games take forever?

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asking because both hp and defenses increase for defense while only attack/spatk increase for offense and BP stays the same

pure star
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defense doesn't scale that hard at all

shrewd summit
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in regular pokemon it does though iirc

pure star
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pp shouldn't be an issue because you should have 3 berry pouches and 10 leppa berries

shrewd summit
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because atk x bp < defense x hp

pure star
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this is one use of shadow ball btw

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it hits four times for my gengar

shrewd summit
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wdym four times

pure star
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the only time something can survive a hit from it is if an endure token procs, it has sturdy, or resists shadow ball enough for it to not one shot

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i have 3 of these

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on it

shrewd summit
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Oh

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interesting

pure star
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and it has 30 spell tags

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with like 770000 spatk

full gate
full gate
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Try to fucking die chellange

pure star
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i'm expecting to die to wave 3k eternamax tbh

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i'd rather die to that than something else

civic void
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does anyone have a spare Wiglett from Pokémon go?

latent granite
sleek jewel
latent granite
sleek jewel
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ironic i got gold geodude in heart gold

latent granite
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more like geodudette since it is female

sleek jewel
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and ironic i was aftering a zubat jolly nature i got "geodudette" jolly nature

latent granite
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but uh, hope you have a way to evolve it to golem

sleek jewel
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im using an emulator

latent granite
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especially one that is 1/8196

sleek jewel
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and im pretty sure people would try to steal it

latent granite
brisk hedge
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Isn’t there a way to make it so that you can evolve trade evolutions on emulator?

latent granite
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ive had the 2nd battle in my leafgreen be a shiny pidgey.... before i had even made it to viridian

sleek jewel
latent granite
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let's go pikachu is an easy way to shiny hunt, heck i got a shiny caterpie without even reaching pewter the first time i played

latent granite
sleek jewel
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in leaf green instead of bulbasaur modest nature i got a shiny bulbasaur and i found a shiny meowth by accident

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How idk

lime relic
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If I have multiple pokemon in my party with "flame body" do they stack when it comes to decreasing hatching time?

latent granite
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as it has to be first in slot

lime relic
latent granite
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yes ive tested

lime relic
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and easiest way to raise friendship on a togepi to evo it?

latent granite
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soothe bell of course

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if you are refering to gen 4 johto you can get it in the national park

lime relic
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Also trying to hatch another porygon (damn that coin game was Fucking ROUGH!!) and try to evo a swinub all at the same time 😅

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I have 22 pokemon left to finish my SoulSilver Dex

latent granite
lime relic
latent granite
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or even the roulette gen 3 had

lime relic
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The other being Celibi

latent granite
lime relic
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That is the list of pokemon I have left to finish my living dex, I actually have a togetic but I want to save it for the later game to evo it

unkempt egret
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imo:

lime relic
unkempt egret
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slots: cringe
volty flip:slightly less cringe
forgoing the games completely and just buying coins directly: based

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shame HGSS money grinding is tedious and gen 2's even worse in that area

lime relic
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I am just so close to finishing this dex

unkempt egret
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erm

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whoever gifted me a ticket to the next GO com day, thanks?

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dunno how this'll go since I've never done a comday ticket before lol

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wish I could give somethin back tho since I'm nowhere close to where they are

tacit tiger
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I wonder what the chances are of a spinda looking bald

hard plume
tacit tiger
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damn

novel iron
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My current Nuzlocke Team is it any good for the 2nd gym (also im doing a randomizer)

elfin whale
pure star
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i hope pokerogue isn't cooked Despair

twilit hazel
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So what the fuck is up with PokeRogue

pure star
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ikr

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oh you don't know do you

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it's less the actual game and more the discord server

unkempt egret
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from what I can tell the game is basically complete and support for its development onwards has been moved to the community so I can see them kinda going mad with power for a little bit

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I'd suggest grabbing the offline version as a just-in-case for now though since most of the bugs with it have been fixed

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so basically I'm not sure if pokerogue is cooked so much as it's in the kitchen, getting ready to cook

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how the meal will turn out though, I'm not sure, but it's most certainly got the apron on and some interesting ideas ready for the baking

twilit hazel
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I just hope it doesn't come out burnt to a crisp

unkempt egret
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but yea I'm still curious as to see where it's gonna go

latent totem
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and some people on the art team have been wanting to do some trans representation, with some pushback from the crazies

pure star
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idk

latent granite
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as long as they end up implementing all the moves and abilities so i can experiment that is fine by me

hard plume
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toxapex is using big brain moves today
and by that I mean it just spammed poison jab

latent granite
latent totem
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I swear every time I look at Pokerogue general, I lose brain cells

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I though some of the people here were immature

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yall look like saints in comparison

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anyways, working on a roselia shiny

hard plume
unkempt egret
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exactly what turns people into degenerates: luck-based collectables

latent totem
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side note, but we got another shiny weekend bois

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ends on monday

unkempt egret
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I forget do those apply to the offline version or only online

hard plume
hard plume
unkempt egret
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lol

hard plume
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I'm not sure how it creates degeneracy

pure star
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it was mostly because of supposed (or not) transphobia that was being handled really poorly

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idk if i can talk about that here tho

latent totem
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he was apparently stone walling any attempts to have some LGBT/trans themed shinies

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speak of

pure star
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shiny sylveon in question:

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shiny toucannon:

unkempt egret
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just a casual kingdom hearts-esque fourteen health bars

pure star
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this run is over gg

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can't kill these two

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lmao

unkempt egret
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The Valiants

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that are 3k to 5k levels ahead of your party

clear dew
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sense the main server is locked down, im back here lol

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SHINY STARTER

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FINALLY

pure star
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oof

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my gengar was level like 44k

unkempt egret
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ah

pure star
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time to start a new run

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the only pkrs mons are so expensive wth

latent totem
pure star
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yippee!

latent granite
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shiny cinnemon

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also right after i caught it i got splicers, made reshiram dragon steel

latent granite
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rare what? reshi?

latent totem
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gholdengo

latent granite
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cinnemon?

latent granite
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i got unlucky with a roaring moon boss

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run over

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btw the first eternatus boss in that run i got was fused with groudon so that was... interesting

timber siren
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Sadly.. unseen fist dosnt work so it really makes him less valuable

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BUT at least I got wicked blow

pure star
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kartana is pretty good as a starter :3

timber siren
tulip ruin
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So

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I was able to play again

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And got a pink sheep

latent totem
tulip ruin
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So i have now 2 shiny mons and both are pink

latent totem
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One of me faves

timber siren
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W

latent totem
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Amph is underrated as hell

timber siren
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I need a shiny mareep so I get an excuse to use it more

tulip ruin
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I m very happy about it too

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Especially because ampharos carried me hard once

timber siren
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I’m tryna catch a primarina rn for my team but she won’t get in the ball..

latent totem
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Also, theyre gonna change the rare and swap it with the epic

timber siren
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I like rare..

latent totem
timber siren
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Oh

latent totem
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Rare barely changes

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Brown one will be made the rare, and the epic will be blue now

timber siren
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Ok that’s good

unkempt egret
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late but and modest too

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also I think with shinies it only counts your highest one so even if you're playing with the rare one, the luck will still count as epic if you've unlocked it

tulip ruin
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Wait is modest nature good for mareep

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I never really cared about that

latent totem
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Amph is mor of a special attacker

unkempt egret
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yea it's probably the best one aside from maybe quiet if you were running a TR team

tulip ruin
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Nice

latent totem
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Tbh, the only natures that really matter in general are jolly, timid, adamant, and modest

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More speed or attack is always better

tulip ruin
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True

unkempt egret
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unless you're in classic mode and don't have a "delete enemy in one turn" button then you might wanna wall a bit

timber siren
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She killed almost my whole team tho..

unkempt egret
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(in which case; bold, calm, impish, and careful all work)

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you can also run the speed reducing ones (brave, quiet, relaxed, and sassy) for TR but I forget if that even works in IF or not

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and in endless yea it's kill or be killed so you want adamant/modest rofl

timber siren
unkempt egret
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also on another note, still continuing with my ORAS run

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good thing castform's legal under my rules since I forgot that ice beam's TM swapped places on the ship with rain dance's

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so casty's my only notable form of ice damage aside from pikachu somehow landing icicle crash before the +3 defenses go up

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...and not getting vaporized by the following EQ

tulip ruin
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XD

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So

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I got a soul dew

unkempt egret
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nice, nice

tulip ruin
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But idk who to use it on

latent granite
tulip ruin
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Yes i will eat it

latent granite
tulip ruin
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How does soul dew help it?

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It has levitate

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Ohh i am a goof

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I miss read it

latent granite
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cressellia is a defensive pokemon and yours has a defensive nature

tulip ruin
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Ohh yeah

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I thought it was making the ability 10% stronger lol

unkempt egret
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last time I used cressy it was a cracked run that got 3 legendary bosses (tapu fini, cressy, and a heatran I had to kill because I ran out of pokeballs) so I forgot what its starting cost was

latent totem
pure star
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soul dew is crazy strong if you have enough of them

latent totem
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Dont stack more than 3

pure star
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with the right nature ofc

tulip ruin
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I bet i don't get more then one XD

unkempt egret
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yea that's usually an endless mode thing but whatever your lowered stat is basically doesn't exist anymore at that point

latent totem
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Since it will lower the other stat to 0

tulip ruin
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Ohhh lol

latent totem
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So if you have a minus speed nature

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Yeah, youre always gonna move last

unkempt egret
latent totem
tulip ruin
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why is it so red?

unkempt egret
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boss?

pure star
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in endless lategame it doesn't really matter as long as it's not a -spe nature

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since your mons are gonna get one shot anyway heehee

tulip ruin
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Ohh yeah 45 still weird to see that

latent totem
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/spattk

timber siren
tulip ruin
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Omg

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Niceee

pure star
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my gengar had 1 atk with 1M spatk thanks to soul dew :3

timber siren
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Fr

pure star
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and a modest nature

timber siren
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100 levels was worth it

latent totem
timber siren
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To have 1M Sp atk??

latent totem
timber siren
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Weird

unkempt egret
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endless mode goes places

latent totem
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Oh believe me it is

pure star
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this is an older one

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when i lost my run it was lvl 44k

latent totem
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And yet its still not enough tbh

pure star
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or around that

timber siren
tulip ruin
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Guess shiftry is more red in this game

timber siren
tulip ruin
timber siren
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It’s just th shading

latent totem
timber siren
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lol

tulip ruin
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The next mon i got was another one that also looks like that

timber siren
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Or that

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Yew

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Is shiftry good for eternatus

tulip ruin
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Wait what

timber siren
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Cuz I think I have a good team for the 100’s

latent totem
tulip ruin
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Ohhh

timber siren
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Damn

latent totem
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Shiftry is a mid mon tbh

tulip ruin
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I just caught it to have it

timber siren
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This my team rn

tulip ruin
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After that i release it

timber siren
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Damm

tulip ruin
timber siren
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Thx

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I need some PP max thing so I can use urshifus signature mofe more

tulip ruin
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yayyyyyy another one

latent granite
timber siren
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Bruh this fucking kilowattrel is killing my whole team wtf

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Why is this thing so powerful

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It’s not even good

latent granite
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in pokerogue any pokemon can be good

timber siren
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Duh

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I know

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But this Pokémon is literally so mid nobody uses him

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He one shot my urshifu

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And had volt a sord

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Absorb

tulip ruin
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Ouch

latent granite
timber siren
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BRO AND HE GETS A CRIT??

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It’s so over

minor rampart
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What is this game

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The one whith lvl 2000 pokemon

timber siren
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My god finally this thibg died

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I need to stack urshifu so much

latent granite
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it is a website game

minor rampart
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Were do I download it

latent granite
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it isnt a download

minor rampart
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Sorry play

timber siren
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Play what??

minor rampart
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The game

latent granite
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i dmed you the site

timber siren
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Do you mean you don’t play it

minor rampart
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And can I play on mobile

timber siren
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Yea

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Tho

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I advise pc tbh

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For me it’s kinda slower

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But it’s useable

minor rampart
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Ok

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How did you dm me?

timber siren
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That’s the website @minor rampart

latent granite
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cause i dont wanna post a link in this channel in case it is frowned upon

hard plume
tulip ruin
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yippee

clear dew
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nice, too bad ditto is doo doo in this game lol

tulip ruin
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Idc i am happy i got blue slime

coarse estuary
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i love having tail glow on my team for my casual playthrough. glad i decided to ditch glaceon for it

latent granite
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ability charm can be like a double edged sword cause it means that you have to encounter the ha mon more, like thick fat mamoswine

clear dew
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FINALLY

winter viper
hard plume
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welcome to hell

hard plume
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can I retract my statement on saying that he was awesome

tulip ruin
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Wait what

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Guess i am happy my game crashed again

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Maybe the rumors are also true :/

hard plume
tulip ruin
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I know

winter viper
# hard plume ....man

https://fixupx.com/sanjaykethees/status/1791582343389725175 for anybody wondering about the situation with Pokerogue

For anyone unaware, the Pokerogue creator & Discord mods are transphobic, homophobic Zionists. This Google Doc contains additional screenshots from the Discord: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT99WnSImDcDQITp1U02ZjKjWjIXVqkpYB3yHxKnU0oGMoSjMt6hgGnyuU7ba_uUAv1jmDO27pzIuKJ/pub

Quoting Buizelated (@CloudMk8)

So after all the drama i...

tulip ruin
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It was more the transphobia that surprised me

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WAIT THE CREATORS AND MODS

winter viper
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Yeah Sam, Lost In Thought, MadMadness, and several other major members of the server have been exposed for shit like this

winter viper
tulip ruin
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That's

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:<

winter viper
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It’s the community being the good guys for once

tulip ruin
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That's really sad

winter viper
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Wanna be even sadder? Sam’s still here

hard plume
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wait what the hell

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did sam get booted off this server?

winter viper
winter viper
tulip ruin
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I mean

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Wouldn't be the first bigot to be here

winter viper
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I think Lightknight thanked him too

tulip ruin
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It sucks

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But i made my experience with another one already

winter viper
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And yet here we are

tulip ruin
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It's crazy what community have them

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Like i played some games and i was shoked that there are transphobes or other bigots i mean okay they are everywhere

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It's impossible to not have some there

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But it's still crazy and also sad

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For my own comfort even though i liked the game i won't play it anymore

winter viper
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It’s absolutely nuts yeah

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This was on the announcement page for ages

tulip ruin
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Ohh wow then i am happy i never joined

blazing surge
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please

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don't mention this topic here

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There is enough drama heehee

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bringing it to other communities will spark more drama

tulip ruin
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Isn't it important to like make light of it?

winter viper
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Well where are we supposed to mention it? There’s no dedicated serious discussion channel to talk about it

winter viper
blazing surge
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well yeah, the point :

blazing surge
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?tag rule8

ebon pondBOT
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Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 8 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Politics and political figures. There are places to do this and they aren’t on a Discord for a Pokémon Fan Game.

blazing surge
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would be the thing

tulip ruin
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I mean i am trans

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That's not politics

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Okay

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You know what

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I will just leave this conversation

winter viper
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Yeah that’s not politics, it’s people

blazing surge
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I just want to prevent the drama from spreading sadbro

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there is enough of that around

sour nimbus
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either way rule 19

blazing surge
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twitter, on their own discord, etc.

blazing surge
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Please share your concerns with me

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speaking of, thanks to said links being posted

tulip ruin
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I need to calm down

blazing surge
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this is no longer the case

tulip ruin
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Alright

blazing surge
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and shall remain as such

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I understand where you all are coming from

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but I feel spreading the drama to other communities is not the right play

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people on twitter are very loud about it (as they should)

latent granite
blazing surge
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Nice quote

latent granite
blazing surge
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Apparently it's Martin Luther King JR

latent granite
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that makes sense

clear dew
clear dew
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BIG POG

latent granite
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hard to see the colors in that lighting

pine ingot
clear dew
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pokerogue

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its a roguelike, and its SUPER addictive

pine ingot
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ohhhh

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now im curious

clear dew
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its a browser game, just need ot make an account with a username/password and youre all set

latent granite
clear dew
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i legit tried every single combination possible

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and THANKFULLY i found the seed where i live earth power twice thanks to focus band

latent granite
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to be fair i do have a mega mawile

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havent gotten an adamant mint yet

clear dew
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i have a klefki with leech seed, soak, salt cure and flash cannon lol

latent granite
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keep in mind mega mawile has huge power too

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so that is 2417x2 atk

clear dew
latent granite
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without using actual money

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should mention that detail

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cause they would probably get sued otherwise

latent granite
clear dew
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something close to that, sitll in double digets

latent granite
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having 6 or 7 silk scarfs on a normal type entei linoone with extreme speed is actually pretty good

coarse estuary
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just beat my casual playthrough. the team was archie the decidueye toxin the alolan muk loop the toucannon iron core the metagross (had access to its mega) tortle the caracosta and curcitree the xurkitree

latent granite
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lapras was the mvp of that team

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let me see if i remember, I had Weavile, Abomasnow, Lapras, Glaceon,Froslass, and alolan ninetales

coarse estuary
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just to be clear this was not my first time playing through alola

latent granite
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i made the mistake of evolving into ninetales too early

latent granite
coarse estuary
latent granite
coarse estuary
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idk it may have been both of us for the confusion but regardless i really liked this team and this is the first time i had an ultr beast on a playthrough team

latent granite
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sometimes i end up liking a pokemon more than i did, like with girafarig in my psychic playthrough of soul silver

coarse estuary
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i mean toucannon was an obv pick

latent granite
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no idea why that would be glances at your profile picture

coarse estuary
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it may or may not be my favorite pokemon of all of em

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i wont tell

latent granite
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favorite pokemon legends included would be lugia for me, non legend is blaziken, so hey fellow bird enjoyer

coarse estuary
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i mean my least favorite pokemon of all time is a legend.

latent granite
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same, Darkrai

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though mine isnt a design thing but rather his move

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dark void annoys the living daylight out of me

coarse estuary
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my least favorite mon of all time is azelf because of the war crimes it has commited onto me

latent granite
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azelf is the "live by the one shot, die by the one shot" of the lake trio

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otherwise known as a glass cannon

coarse estuary
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its moto to me is the i will kill everyone you ever loved by critting on every move i hit until the battle is over

latent granite
coarse estuary
latent granite
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hey at least you didnt end up with a regi that only knows self destruct

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gotta look at the positive

coarse estuary
latent granite
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kinda reminds me of this meme

coarse estuary
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yug0SV4V-s 4:30 in is the moment lol so funny

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Over the months of August and September, I released a playthrough of a Randomized Pokemon Emerald Nuzlocke. and to say the support was CRAZY would be an understatement. After completing the entire series, and re- editing it without the copyrighte...

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latent granite
coarse estuary
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its great

vernal garnet
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I DID NOT JUST GET BACDK TO BACK ULTRA SHINIES WHATTT (no video proof :( )

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most normal team

tacit tiger
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how do you have 3 epic shinies of toxapex

vernal garnet
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L U C K

brave panther
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Anyone happen to know of other servers to discuss making fan games?

latent totem
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3× shinies

tacit tiger
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I thought that was only for the time when they got 1 million users

native saddle
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who should i replace w tinkaton

vernal garnet
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whichever shiny u dont need - prolly jumpluff

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imo

warm rose
brave panther
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Where can I get Pokerogue?

vernal garnet
obsidian hamlet
latent totem
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could've been a shiny latias smh

tight granite
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Yep but atleast it's something better

storm whale
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got DNA splicers. who should i combine with who

tacit tiger
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HOLY SHIT

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I MAY HAVE 2 SHINY CHARMS

storm whale
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is it even worth in the first place?

latent totem
tacit tiger
hard plume
timber siren
# hard plume

Still craxy how some of the legendarys abiltys don’t work Whcih is annoying

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Anyway they got Juan..

hard plume
tight granite
hard plume
storm whale
tight granite
hard plume
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you'll get an electric/ground type duder, which gives you only one weakness

storm whale
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oooh good thinking

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which order ?

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not sure if i want drought or static

hard plume
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amp for head, groundon for body

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or vice versa

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since both of them are mono type

storm whale
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tyvm for the advice

hard plume
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as for abilities, I think drought would help you in the long run

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weakens your water type enemies while you unleash some electric mayhem

storm whale
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last run i did run solar beam with my groudon which was super helpful with drought

hard plume
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then amp + groudon it is!

timber siren
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Anyway somebody tell if I should cstch a steelix cus I have two grass types and I want a steel type for end game

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Even tho there are better steel types..

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I wanna replace shiftry or meganium but idk which

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And rock head

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W

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All tho mild sucks..

storm whale
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME.

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we're running it back what do we do

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im thinking something with persian because of its technician

timber siren
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Hope I can find a dragon type

timber siren
timber siren
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Tbh

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Maybe arcanine with smth

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Fire fighting again ehh?

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Or fire fairy

timber siren
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Yoooo W

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Idk if I want it on my team

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I mean I’d take any mythical

hard plume
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you better have a masterball

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those guys are hard to catch

timber siren
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Yea

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Sadly I don’t..

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Mostly caught thrm in rouge balls

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Mu best bet is to status condition and Chuck ultra balls

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Uxie would be pretty useful

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Ayyy I got the par

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LMAOOO I GOT IT IN A GREAT BALL

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not the best stats tho😢

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I’ll take what I can get tho

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Sorry meganium you were here since the beginning

tacit tiger
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fuck meganium
lil bro thought they could get the stats of venosaur with worse typing and swept it under the rug

timber siren
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But it’s still ass

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So it was coming anyway

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Now I have 2 legendarys

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On my team

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This probably my best end game team

unkempt egret
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support starter

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which is generally not something people want since they more wanna overlevel and one-man-army with the starters

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which I mean you can but in a region like johto that's not exactly the best move

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(Alola is actually kinder to it then its actual grass starter but in a region with enemy EVs that's also not exactly the best move rofl)

timber siren
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It’s reflect and light screen

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Was kinda useful

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Tbh

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But since it’s only 5 turns it sucks

unkempt egret
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I forget don't you also get reflect in time for whitney or is that later

timber siren
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Probably

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Ik when it’s meganium you can get them

unkempt egret
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it's still the only johto starter in gen 2 that doesn't benefit from the elemental punches tho

timber siren
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Sadly

unkempt egret
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which are basically the gen 2 equivalent of flamethrower/ice beam/thunderbolt in every other gen

timber siren
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Yeah lol

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I’m pretty sure Gen 2 had the worst starters..

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Unless Hisuian typhlosion saves him

unkempt egret
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I think it only competes with gen 5 on that

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and gen 5 at least had serp go from mid to turbo-hero when contrary got released during ORAS's era

timber siren
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True

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Can’t believe they made samurott bad..

unkempt egret
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tbh if I were to pick any worst starter of all 30 (discounting yellow pikachu who otherwise wins by a landslide) since that showed up in my youtube vids I'd actually pick emboar

timber siren
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I think he is the least worse

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And fire is good type

unkempt egret
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since its stats are pretty middling in a region with both sawk/throh and murdermanitan, comp wise it was a non-starter with infernape still being good, and even appearence wise it didn't still well with a lot of people at the time for being a third fire/fighting in a row which since starters kinda shape the reputation of a region I feel resulted in a lot of smack being thrown at gen 5 at the time

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nowadays it's a lot more decent as a recoil kamikaze and that dark is the new fighting in terms of overused starter types since we've had it for four gens in a row now discounting galar

timber siren
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Such good designs

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I mean gen 9 gives some buffs

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But I’m not sure if it’s enough

unkempt egret
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I feel like being mono-type isn't helping since I've noticed that a lot of monotyped starters tend to be kinda thrown aside

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unless they have really good things backing them up like serp (contrary leaf storm), rilla (priority 91 power move, prior to nerfs), and cinder (court change, liberio) or change their type like sceptile and cinder again

timber siren
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Since they just add benefits

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Like more resistances

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And a better move pool

unkempt egret
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and two STAB options instead of one (possibly three if you're in gen 9)

timber siren
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Yea

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So it’s really just the better option

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And like you said some mono types are good

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But then it depends

unkempt egret
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I would also say "and that's why the eeveelutions fell out of favor in gen 6" but that's a different explanation

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it didn't help but for them it was more the power creep catching up with them combined with baton pass being officially declared "cheese" and thrown to anything goes (and even in official, baton pass being made a TM in gen 8 threw that advantage out there as well)

timber siren
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Yea power creep sadly is getting more prone tbh. So many Pokémon with OP moves and sometimes the drawbacks aren’t that bad. Use of items Csn just nerf them I mean just look at Gen 9..

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Also I haven’t seen any baton pass tbh

coarse estuary
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time to do the post game. been a while since ive done it

timber siren
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Lmao

native saddle
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mega mawile or tinkaton for endless

clear dew
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aint this some shit

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the shiny is actually dope too, its a light blue crystal body and gold inside

tacit tiger
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wish we could catch the mons if they were shiny

hard plume
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and so begins another round of the strat that I hate doing:
the juggle

tacit tiger
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Rip you are stuck forever in the ocean cycle now

hard plume
hard plume
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didn't think to bust out the earthquake the earlier times but now I did

latent granite
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In my current endless run I'm around level 900 with no golden punch or shiny charm or even the lock capsule, the game just does not wanna gimme them

latent totem
latent granite
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Lake trio are sub legendaries

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Still mystical power is a good move a stronger power up punch that is special attack instead of physical

latent totem
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Wait, is mystical power a new signature move?

latent granite
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The lake trio got mystical power in legends arceus

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And kept it in sv

unkempt egret
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yep, does also mean that you wanna run them special now

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since in legends I think they boosted your highest stat?

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while in SV they only boost your special attack... and took an accuracy nerf

latent totem
latent granite
unkempt egret
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checks* apparently it boosts either offense or defense depending on what's higher, or just special attack in gen 9

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so like how it works in pokemon GO (minus the speed thing)

unkempt egret
latent granite
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Oh yeah I do remember seeing uxie getting the def boost in arceus

unkempt egret
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"medicham and gallade would like to have a word with that statement"

brisk hedge
latent granite
latent totem
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Theyre all secondary fighting types

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Doesnt count

brisk hedge
latent granite
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Mewtwo x has highest base HP second only to emax and blissy and very high attack

latent granite
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Megas change base stats

latent totem
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But not hp

latent granite
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Then explain how my Mewtwo x had more HP than regular

unkempt egret
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alright for the others there's G-slowbro, metagross, bronzong, azelf ||GO BOOM BOOM||, malamar, bruxish, solagleo, necrozma dusk, calyrex-psychic, veluza, iron leaves, and iron boulder

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discounting the legends and pseudos that's still bronzong, malamar, bruxish, and veluza

latent totem
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X Is the inferior mega tbh

unkempt egret
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wait frick that's not counting gen 9 yeeted mons

latent granite
unkempt egret
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counting those that also adds G-rapidash and solrock

latent granite
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Also that weird handle on his head as well

unkempt egret
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I almost counted hatterene for a second because I'm a degenerate running a swords dance set

latent totem
unkempt egret
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then was like "you do realize it has like 45 less attack then its special attack right"

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still a better situation than special fighting tho which has uuuh

latent totem
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Focus blast

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Aura sphere

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And thats about it

unkempt egret
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keledo and a load of mixed attackers

latent totem
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Psychic only really gets zen headbutt tho, unless im forgetting something

unkempt egret
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I mean you can just say that you don't like Zen Headbutt and psycho cut without having to blame the entire type for it

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and psychic fangs in the case of bruxish/veluza (chomp chomp fish?)

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actually hang on let's be real

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are the only two pokemon that get STAB on psychic fangs just the two fish

latent totem
unkempt egret
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scream tail, my bad

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and espeon, and folgiarif, and... wait since when did metagross get it

latent totem
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Gen 7 i believe

unkempt egret
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dang that move's come a long way from just being bruxish's signature huh

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gen 9 according to bulba

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(the move itself being bruxish's signature in gen 7)

latent totem
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Couldve sworn ive seen gen 7 metagross with psychic fangs

unkempt egret
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but yea thinking of other lopsided types are uh

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physical electric is another one since everyone without a signature move has to pay the Pikachu Tax for not being the series mascot

latent granite
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Luster purge is a physical psychic move

unkempt egret
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luster purge isn't physical

latent totem
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I would know

latent granite
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What am I thinking of then

unkempt egret
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LOL I forgot gen 9 buffed it to make it actually usable (+25 base power)

unkempt egret
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physical ghost is another one though Phantom Force and Poltergeist tend to do just fine in their own spaces and suffer heavily in the opposing one

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(PF for in-game and poltergeist for PvP)

latent granite
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Zen headbutt, psycho cut, psychic fangs and I swear there was at least one more

latent totem
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Now if only they didnt nerf the shit out of the soul dew

latent granite
unkempt egret
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wait hang on, are SD even in IF

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let me checky since I have debug

latent granite
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Shadow punch exists but only for a few mons

unkempt egret
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yup

latent granite
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Shadow claw

unkempt egret
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back on topic, yea those two as well

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physical fairy has like exactly two (play rough and spirit break)

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unless you count the absolute degenerates running pixilate sylveon with last resort or skull bash

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play rough at least has a good spread for what it is

brisk hedge
unkempt egret
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if this was a reply to the sylveon one then yes

latent granite
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Who in thier right minds runs a physical Sylveon?

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Mawile, tinkaton are better physical fairies

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Azumarill too

unkempt egret
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granbull as well

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but yea most of the fairies that want play rough get either that or spirit break aside from tapu koko and tapu bulu

latent granite
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No one uses granbull

unkempt egret
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I mean in-game it's at least alright with intimidate

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but yea for comp I don't think people run sylveon anymore either

brisk hedge
latent granite
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Flareon, my favorite Eevee, gets the worst moveset for it's stats

latent totem
unkempt egret
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if you are running a fairy in the usual 6v6 singles it's probably iron valiant or a non-fairy running a fairy type tera

latent granite
latent totem
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But he didnt forget about you

unkempt egret
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actually smogon's right there let me just check before I say that

latent granite
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Named my shiny one Akuma after the street fighter character

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You guys use guides to make movesets?

unkempt egret
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hatterene (magic bounce as one of the very few means of entry hazard prevention that isn't a trashmon), primarina, clefable, and enamorours (help me with spelliiiing) get decent use with A(urora veil)-tales, tinkaton, turtle enam, scream tail, azumarill, and comfey all have fringe uses

latent totem
latent granite
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He DID die though

unkempt egret
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I might need to look up primarina specifically to see if gen 9 gave it something really spicy or if it's just more suited for what gen 9's doing

latent granite
latent granite
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Impossible I feed him samiches everyday he directs his frustrations elsewhere

brisk hedge
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I thought his face was supposed to look peaceful in death

latent totem
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Rage fist is fookin broken

unkempt egret
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tis what happens when you don't give a move a dang damage cap

latent totem
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Gains 50 base power each time monke gets hit

unkempt egret
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actually isn't there a cap at like 350 or 500

unkempt egret
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imo hot take: all moves with variable power should have a max base damage cap of 150 unless it actively faints the user when used. (which I think only applies to misty explosion)

latent totem
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350

latent granite
latent totem
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The strat in doubles comp is to have maushold hit it with beat up

unkempt egret
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maybe not in pokerogue or pokemon masters tho since those two games are all about high numbers in a PvE setting

unkempt egret
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er, maybe don't put the 150 cap in those two games my bad

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then again masters has moves regularly breaking 250 without variance like "this is normal, go ham"

latent totem
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Bruh, the day scale shot gets its full functionality imma rip and tear through endless

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Genunely the best multihit move imo

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Next to population bomb

latent granite
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Hmm I might have to try an annihilape with huge power/pure power DNA splicer run at some point

latent granite
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Cause I also wanna do a mega kangaskhan run at some point

pure star
latent granite
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Triple axel

clear dew
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oh yeah, fun fact incase yall didnt know, if you start an endless spliced run, if you pick a shiny as a starter, IT WILL BE FUSED WITH A MON OF THE SAME SHINY RARITY

latent granite
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Though it was adamant

clear dew
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torch song + punk rock + beast boost = death

latent granite
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I thought it was funny that buzzwole gets moxie and his beast boost

pure star
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kartana gets sharpness too

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as a passive

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boowomp

clear dew
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i could be wrong though

pure star
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you can in classic

clear dew
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ah

pure star
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not in endless though

clear dew
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gotcha, i didnt know if it was endless or classic

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but tbh, im taking a small break from pokerogue, it has comsumed all my free time lol

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im actually playing a little bit of minecraft again cause they got the 15 year anniversary going on

pure star
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i'm trying to take advantage of the 3x shiny rates rn

clear dew
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oh i have been all weekend lol

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ive gotten like 15 aditional shinies sense the vent went live

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mainly base shinies, but a few rank 2, like vaporeron and a breloom

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no rank 3's though

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cause i dont count eternatus lol

pure star
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im trying to get far in endless so i have enough master balls to catch them lol

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  • 4 shiny charms
clear dew
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mainly exploud which has soundproof

pure star
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only 3 more amulet coins to go and then i need the lock capsule or whatever it's called

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then this run is ez

latent granite
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Must be nice getting golden punches

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Im past level 900 and still dont have a single one or shiny charm, or even lock capsule

pure star
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oof

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i just got the lock capsule too

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now i just need money

clear dew
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this is nice though

latent granite
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I think I only have A- luck

latent granite
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Also I think I messed up by taking too many exp balances

clear dew
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im debaiting if i should change around my party and do away with a luck point to get gmax centiscorch fused with lokix

timber siren
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They literally are just like some omes

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Like jirachi

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I think celebi is also mythical?.

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For some reason a lot of them are small

timber siren
latent granite
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Smol psychic baby does not equal mythical

latent totem
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niceu

timber siren
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But I said a lot of them are small

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Welll

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Maybe a minority

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Idk. Domt keep up with the labels

latent totem
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quite a few of them are smol

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at least 4

latent granite
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There are a lot of smol psychic babies in the mythical pool though

timber siren
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Is hoopa mythical

latent totem
latent granite
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Mew, celebi,jirachi, vicini

timber siren
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There’s another one

timber siren
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That’s why I thought they were mythical tbh

pure star
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there are a lot of mythicals that are just baby

timber siren
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Well 11

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I think for Gen 9

latent granite
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Meloetta is more like a teenager compared to other psychic mythicals

latent totem
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Pecharunt isn't babi

timber siren
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Yea

pure star
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nah pecharunt is a jerk

timber siren
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Lmao

timber siren
latent totem
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and then you just have deoxys

latent granite
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She is still smol though

timber siren
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From a baby to a monster

pure star
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technically meltan and phione are the only actual baby mythicals tho

timber siren
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And hoopas other form..

clear dew
latent totem
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the only psychic type mythical that isn't 🤏

timber siren
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Hold on there is a legendsry and mythical of every type right

latent granite
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Phione is just a permanent baby pokemon, and a worse manaphy

vernal garnet
pure star
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not bug for legendarys if you don't count ultra beasts

timber siren
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Oh yeah

pure star
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but if you do then it does

timber siren
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Damn

timber siren
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Instesd of ultra beasts

vernal garnet
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p sure theyre a separate category

latent granite
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If you count mythical as legendary then genesect

vernal garnet
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idk tho

timber siren
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Welll I think only with the drive??

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Or is he already bug

vernal garnet
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bug as base

pure star
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he is bug/steel

clear dew
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mythicals are legendary pokemon, just a sub category of legendary

pure star
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the drives only change techno blast

timber siren
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Oh

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Guess you could say Arceus is a bug

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Mythical.. right

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I swear

pure star
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arceus is technically all types

timber siren
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True

pure star
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but by default is a normal type

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and the strongest normal type tbh

timber siren
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So sad

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And to think you have so many..

vernal garnet
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gen X should have a bug legendary

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its been too long

timber siren
pure star
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we need a bug type pseudo

timber siren
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Since it’s well

vernal garnet
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bug/dragon

timber siren
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Yea

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What flygon could’ve been lmao

pure star
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the closest we have are vikavolt and volcarona ngl

vernal garnet
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and flygon

clear dew
timber siren
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Is geneswct is Gen 6

vernal garnet
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yeah but its mythical

timber siren
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??

pure star
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gen 5

vernal garnet
clear dew
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mythical = legendary

timber siren
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Ah

timber siren
clear dew
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regardless, mythical pokemon are legendary pokemon

vernal garnet
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mythicals are more ditsribution event type of stuff

timber siren
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Either way idk if they add any new legendsry or any mon to

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Gen X

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Either then obv new starters

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Well maybe some new ones

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But idk

vernal garnet
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they should

timber siren
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Could give soem variants

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Like to pesudos

pure star
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i'm hoping we get access to more mythicals in gen X and PLZA

vernal garnet
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ZA might have quests similar to PLA where if you have the other pokemon games then you can access mythicals

timber siren
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I wonder what they will pick

pure star
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there are only 3 mythicals in gen 6

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so

timber siren
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I think they picked ones that matched the theme right?? Since it’s in the past

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I know they had the regis

pure star
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hoopa is without a doubt gonna have story significance

timber siren
pure star
vernal garnet
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they had all the mythicals from gen 4 iirc

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in pla

timber siren
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Oh yeah

pure star
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not all of the regis tho

timber siren
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Sadly
😔

pure star
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they did have the forces of nature tho

twilit hazel
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Plus a new one

vernal garnet
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yup

clear dew
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also i hate how post floor 1k

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almost every floor has a boss pokemon

twilit hazel
timber siren
clear dew
pure star
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wouldn't be too surprised

timber siren
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Why would hoopa be related to legends za

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If the game is about zygarde..

hard plume
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it's about the legends of kalos

vernal garnet
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prolly post game or smth

twilit hazel
# timber siren Iseaki??

It's the same shit that PLA had, though I can let it slide since the main legends in that game are time-space gods and Actually God

timber siren
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I didn’t really see anything about arceus lol

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Even tho it’s called legends Arceus

twilit hazel
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I kinda just don't want the Legends series (since that's a thing now) to have the reason your main character is even there be due to some space-time isekai shenanigans

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Unless it's one about Alola

timber siren
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What is isekai shenanigans

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That’s what I was tryna ask..

hard plume
timber siren
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Oh

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Oh then hoopa would be pretty funny lol

twilit hazel
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I could see Hoopa being the reason you can get multiples of the Kalos starters and fossils, but that would only be if PLZ-A solely takes place in the past

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And one that doesn't already have fossil revival

clear hornet
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since the PokéRouge Discord is still on lock down, I'll ask here if Hisuian Lilligant is in the game and if so how do you get that form?

timber siren
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Following LA

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To be in the past

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If not I’d be quite confused