#other-pokemon-games
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Flygon isn't strong tho
and again, misses the entire point of flygon
that's the point
it is not a bug
it is a sand dragon
honestly if you guys want a bug type flygon, wait for a freaking regional variant
it has the ability sand song which is a ground type version of liquid voice
stats are pretty important
it ain't just some numbers
I don't have this weird competitive mindset
i might not have a competitive mindset
but I know good stats
trust me
I have to do raids.
a lot of them
I don't do raids
and I have to plan accordingly
I just catch a mon
flygon just barely has enough stats to make it usable
cue the incoming "filthy casual" comments
but not enough for it to compete with other mons that fill a similar role
I don't sweat in a casual game
i like using my favorites but i can't use them in a serious setting
cause jigglypuff is really bad
Are people also sweating in kirby
really bad
I just don't get the appeal
Annoying because these pe people tend to be very much liking to ruin casual players fun
also using bad pokemon in a comp setting is funny
"BeCaUsE tHe GaMe ISn'T HarD eNoUgh"
because no one would expect it
If it isn't hard enough use idk a scaterbug level 10 and beat the game with it
i'm a casual too but I don't scoff at the stats, broh
also some other megas we need are mega froslass, roserade, togetic, Lumineon, just to name a few
Pokémon was always and still gets made for casual players
would be hilarious if lumineon got a mega
i know of chansey and blissey and their freaking damage sponge status
or the absolute tank that is shuckle
and it was actually good
mega toxapex with 200 in both defense stats
I like to use tanks
lmao
Mega shuckle would be terrifying
which is why it shouldn't happening
well that looks lame
idk when I think of mega shuckle, I think of big ass shell
mega shuckle would just be a block of tungsten i think
Tbh i don't even know what most number mean
What does 255 defense in the end of the day mean
And is it important if i just beat the elite four
255 is the maximum amount of points that any pokemon can have stat wise
at least from what I've saw
255 is pretty high
i forgot to get the actual stats oops
Yes
Yeah but in the end of the day it's just a numbers that determine some value
regular defense takes on physical attacks while special defense takes on special (magic) attacks
eternamax
ahh ernamax eternatus my beloved
I am confused how people could even do that
the claaaaaaaaaaaaaaw
Eternamax is ew
i really hope it becomes obtainable one day
I know the basics
just for the fun of it
The arena mostly
Ohhh
that statement is realllly bad out of context, buddy chum pal
What
Yeah I think it's a coding thing
You know why
well that would require the creation of a super overpowered battle type
age
We are talking about pokemon stats
oh god. you don't know??
I wasn't even thinking in that direction
but out of context, that statement is HORRIBLE
next time, work on your phrasing
so is phrasing, dude!
You should never use anything you hear out of context
Bro it's some artificial numbers determining some strength based on how heigh they are ate a specific level
what, are you asking that all pokemon work the same?
But it doesn't even play into the nature and stuff
mega rayquaza did it so eternatus could as well
I'm not a competitive human, but even I know this shit
there are also IVs
I don't like the numbers game
aka, stat boosters
To much to remember
I just want to beat the elite 4 and that was it
Maybe some post content
Well I don't remember how many calciums and proteins I throw at my pokemon either but I still kick ass
This is one of the reasons i am not the biggest fan of the Pokemon community
And btw fixed the one message you pointed out
me putting 252 hp EVs into a shedinja:
good for you!
..but here's the thing
they don't just determine some value
they impact how you battle
"SpEciFic"
sometimes a pokemon's stats are everything
how strong you hit, whether or not you go first on a turn
How about we end this conversation and move on to something else? Unless you are doing a extremely hard fan game or rom hack that recommends you use evs and ivs and all that jazz then all of that doesn't even matter too much, you can get through a lot of rom hacks, fan games, and vanilla games without worrying about stats too much.
how strong you can defend an attack
good call. it feels like I'm running around in circles
This is what i said
Or at least the last part
no you didn't
I don't remember anywhere in the conversation where you said "lets talk about something else"
Okay
Just stop, both of you. Move on.
I said the last part
ok
Eat your heart out, Red
backed up by reactions from another server:
I already changed it
Come on sorry that i don't think about everything
Might ohh lord of people who appearently need everything to be as clear as possible so it never sounds wrong out of context
Or fing don't always think the worst in a message that got sended while being pissed
anything you say or do can and will be used against you
Context is key
And mindless people who believe everything are everywhere
I could make random screenshots too and make them sound wrong out of context
I am paranoid enough already
Sorry that i really sometimes just have half thoughts and especially get irrational when i am getting mad
tbf it was only posted in a channel specifically dedicated to no context screenshots KEK
:0
for the lols
yukiakera is disapointed in us
Question for yall, do dialga and palkia scale to your level?
hey does anyone play TGOM i want to take a vacation
Nothing scales with your level
I was more just annoyed, cuz we don't need arguments over something that doesn't matter that much. We're all here to have fun talking with other pokemon peeps so that should be what happens, not everyone being pissed off or frustrated. I didn't fully know what the argument earlier was about past that it was about how stats are calculated or something idk but it was annoying that it was an argument to begin with. Especially when most of that info can be looked up on Bulbapedia or Serebii and anything specific to fan games or rom hacks that could change it can then be answered as best as peeps can nicely here. There was no need for an argument that just annoyed or made others feel uncomfortable typing in the chat.
yeah sorry about that
I'm playing the pokemon TCG video game and goddamn, farfetch'd is a dogshit pokemon in every game it's in
Oof
Radical reds pretty good
What if mega shuckle broke out of its shell, became pure bug and lost all its defense to get a lot of attack and speed
THE ONLY PERSON taht shouldnt have changed pokemon CHANGED POKEMON (zygarde adventure)
very smart (clearly)
Now that’s a smart move
Thanks :)/
Yep. Every time. It's a real pain when shiny hunting legends and ultras beast through there.
who in their right mind gets rid of an ice type in a zygarde adventure?
especially one with snow warning
nvm i just looked at the abomasnow from the adventures
why does it have aurora veil with soundproof
because t e a m w o r k
The ai is terrible. And I mean so are most of the pokemon movesets, gf did it on purpose to make adventures harder. But them shiny rates tho. 1/100 with a shiny charm is hard to pass up when hunting legendaries.
the only way to set up hail is through max hailstorm 😭
Oof
and the only fully evolved/single stage mons with blizzard are wild
like
???
barbarcle using blizzard with its mighty 54 spatk
(It was not ai)
Oh extra big oof
best pokemon for zygarde (IMO)
- Alcremie Decorate + Belossom
- Ice type Weather Ball Frosmoth + Mr Mime Helping Hand
- Sneasel (that ice type move is super good imo)
(not in order of greatness)
im assuming that's an OHKO strat that falls apart if power construct goes off
2 best one imo
since usually I remember Wide Guard Spam being the way to go
ice type weather ball boosted by helping hand is like half hp even with complee forme
(for example Sauce McGavin had an op strat that only lost 2/3 times in like 200(?) tries)
nah its just HUGE damage
thats still a good way but not best in my opinion
So there's this garage with a statue of Paul Bunyan outside of it where I live, and for a long time it was missing its head. It has it now, but Pokemon go has it labeled as headless lumberjack
that happens sometimes, there's a mall I sometimes go to that has a stop dedicated to a store that's no longer there anymore since I think it was in there for about 15-18 months at most
our mall was not ready for chocolate moonshine
Im ready
Also
MODS! MODS! He broke rule 4!!!
?
I'm doing a bug type only playthrough in Black 2
I've heard that's a pretty difficult run to do
It's really only difficult at the very beginning, and Clay's excadrill, at least for ne
Although I've just gotten into Reversal mountain
Nice
Alchohol aint a drug, buddy
I won't lie this is me when I'm wrong
That's on the same level as "w33d isn't a drug, its natural"
I will say I was just joking about calling mods. I'm not a snitch.
My favorite character, you may ask?
My favorite character is Bryson man
How dare you disrespect colress like that
||Get Brycen-manned||
As someone who works in a liquor distribution warehouse in the Deep South (borderline but still in it), if you said “alcohol is a drug” to any of those guys, you’d have to pick up your teeth in the parking lot.
Yes, technically it’s a drug, a downer in fact, but no it’s not according to the FDA which is the main determiner in the US. So no, not in my country at least.
CommUnown
you're wrong because people I work with are violent thugs
ok bro
weird argument
Just sayin’ don’t anger the rednecks who lift crates of 50 pounds regularly
there was a sprite that almost didn't get approved becuase it had a pokemon drinking what could be misconstrued as wine
as far as this server is concerned yes alchohol is a drug
I'm not scared of them
i'm not scared of modern day barbarians who get violent when someone says something that hurts their feefees
let htem beat me up
ok
I'm hurt
but you're still not right
no ammount of hurting me wins you the argument.
My condolences😔🙏
I'm not gonna act like I'd win, I'm just okay with getting hurt
sorry bro but being a violent thug is not cool or respectable, and we need to stop acting like it is
When did I say that
botta fight the fire trial in my ultra sun nuzlocke. what should i use here
evolved pokemon 
if you dont have helpful information to say please refain from saying anything at all
I get the names for all except DQ… until about halfway through writing this when I realized it’s because of the upside down Blizzards isn’t it?
yep
Also like the idea of the illusion mon being a Kinder surprise
after accidently having a food theme with grub hub and bow tie i just decided its a food themed run and Cha the traded hawlucha fit in so i allowed it bec i got sperow as my route above trial site 1 encounter
Fair enough. In my current PIF run I’m doing all slime references from various sources, and in true Dragon Quest fashion, they’ll all have slime pun names. Already got Goodon Ramsey and Flanthony, also got Slimon, Slippy, and Goo Fieri on the docket
well cha grub hub and dq died while within this trial
So, no more Mexican food, deliveries, or Blizzards this run?
guess not
I feel that if you were actually joking, then this whole conversation after you said you were wouldn't have happened and everyone could've just moved on cuz it wouldn't have mattered if alcohol was considered a drug or not. Instead there was basically an argument about it. I'm just putting that out there. You could've just said nothing and there wouldn't have been a problem.
Aww Vikavolt is a decently good pokemon too.
late but that looks like a pretty uuuuh dire team
your best bet is to try to steal the thick club and hope your entire team isn't hit with 6 OHKO's in a row before you can pull it off. Cha is probably your best bet if they get thief since their speed is good enough that they might actually outrun even with totem marowak's +2 speed

Or else i could be talking about another one
Fair enough
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
wrong chat XD
With the closure of relic castle and fan games in general
How are we gonna install fan games from other sites and are other fan game sites unaffected by this DMCA thing that was going on?
Only Relic was hit with the DMCA, other sites are fine, at least currently.
Keyword is currently
Pokémon insurgence is like the best fan made game outside of this and PokeMMO. That is all
Nah. For me that’s Pokemon xenoverse
xenoverse is really fun
It sure is
"High speed. Speed is war."
I;m playing blaze black 2 redux rn and im abusing save stattes and i got a crit 3 times in a row
4 times in a row
5 times in a row
It happens
Nicee
I got a bad feeling about this....
Actually I'm pretty sure that trade actually does get you Gengar
Ok nvm
yeah she is like Mindy but not the typical mindyt
I just never did the trades. I got all my trade evos through tera raids.
She's like Mindy, except she has a soul
which version do u have
Violet
I have scarlet
reshiram beam vs zekrom kick who wins
Nice
+6 252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Zekrom Zekrom Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Deoxys-Defense: 796-937 (261.8 - 308.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
or +6 defense for deoxys the just a 2hko
ah shit i forgot to also do tera but still ohko
You think this is good enough to carry me through the elite four in platinum?
I'll have you know, gen 4 Cynthia is considered the hardest elite four member in the Pokemon franchise history
I've got a lvl 60 sizor, a lvl 55 torterra and nothing else to speak of and I'm halfway through victory road
And a lvl 60 giratina
Forgot about that
cynthia from bdsp is literally cynthia from platinum but now somehow even worse
I don't understand Nintendo thinking with Cynthia
A garchomp that always swords dances first
Kinda abnoxious
Most people would struggle to deal with that
not really if you know what you're doing
I had no issue with bdsp because the underground area gave you access to basically any pokemon you wanted
And the XP rates were buffed by 30% in gen 5 and even more I think in 7
So my average pokemon level once I got there was much higher than platinum
And the shared party XP thing
That allows my entire team to be equal level
You are definitely underestimating how difficult gen 4 was as a game as a whole
even with all of that her team in bdsp is leagues stronger than her platinum team
and she actually has IVs and EVs in bdsp
EVs are the big thing
the only other champs that have enemy EVs are the two gen 7 champs (kikui and hau)
Yeah but in gen 4 if you level 5 pokemon instead of just over leveling one pokemon to 70+ your entire team will be 10-13 lvls lower than Cynthia's come the elite 4
Assuming you don't power level using the vs finder
Garchomp will always out speed and if you can't put it down in 1 hit you lose
that just means you have to grind more
and i barely beat bdsp cynthia even while over-leveled
My whole strat rn, is that I got max iv/ev staraptor with adamant nature and I hope to take garchomp out with a single close combat
If it doesn't work, I have to hit the grind to lvl up (easy since you can farm Aaron out with staraptor since he's a bug type user
if you had a weavile it would be strong against half of her team
My torterra has eq
Meh nature though
and be a reliable one shot against garchomp
Just get
A Snorunt
Some HRT
And the best vgc ice type mindset ICE STAB ICE STAB
isn't it also holding a yache berry in BDSP
don't forget the OHKO ice move
for fairy types
Could
Articuno only ice type moves was used in the vgc
I thought about trying to get a beldum and Metagross too but
and won didn't it
In my last platinum playthrough I spent 3 hours just to find 1 beldum that I failed to catch with 40 ultra balls at low hp
And I realized, yeah not this playthrough
that's normally how it goes
it has the same catch rate as legendary mons iirc
i hope they keep making the e4 and champion challenging like in bdsp
cause
2 useless abilities on the champion?
That's not right though, because Cynthia's garchomp has swords dance
That one doesn't
I do remember how I beat her though in bdsp
Was a few years ago but I recall I destiny bonded
Or wait that's from a different fan made game
Lotta weird ass wikis everywhere
Ohh I guess it is just bdsp with swords dance
Thinking back my last playthrough of platinum was 2009
So I don't have a good memory
I'm pretty sure thats how it was in OG DPPT
its why her fight is so tough
but she did have IVS
this is her garchomp's atk stat in dppt
not including natures since they're random
oh nvm
they have beneficial natures
i am so thankful my lillpup encounter hadvital spirit. herdiers intim + baby doll eyes saved the deathless olivia because after getting lycanroc to -3 attack the z move did like only 30 then from there i could send in drifblim to minimize stall then ko with gusts
thanks to u/zertolurian for this
A lot of gen 4 being so hard might have been the times
Most people didn't understand evs/ivs
Most people didn't know what nature meant
Id say most people in 2009 didn't even understand the concept of stab
I was 11 in 2009
I didn't even know what pokemon were able to evolve and thought all Pokemon has identical stats as long as they were the same level
But things like stab, evs/ivs and hunting for specific natures were completely limited to super competitive players back then and that probably played a huge part in Cynthia being so busted.
Hard to beat Cynthia when you don't even know how to properly build your pokemon.
i realized after replaying emerald that the games werent really hard it's just a lot of things were way more vague
also the phys/spec split made figuring out what moves would be best a little easier
I wish my original platinum game wasn't water damaged, I wanna see what the staraptor I used to beat the elite four and champion looks like. I basically had 4 hm Pokemons that were extremely low lvl and a 75 staraptor going into the e4, I beat the whole game with that thing and had a large stack of revives and moomoo milks since they were cheaper than potions
I brave bird or close combat spammed and then revived my overleveled staraptor
i hate hms so much
I wonder what nature and IV/evs it had
I wonder if my adamant ev/iv trained staraptor at lvl 58 is stronger than my og lvl 75 one from my childhood
Or not
what i tend to notice is that kids think pokemon games are challenging because they dont know about coverage or hm slaves or training more than 1 pokemon. ik ive heard stories of people who only used fire moves on their fire starter because they did not think moves that were not fire type were good on their starter. once people can make diverce teams and movesets most pokemon games are easy
you can run through some pokemon games with just 1 hyperleveled mon tho
4th gen is the first gen that you couldn't easily do it
i'm pretty sure the yt Big Yellow ran through pokemon red/blue with a raticate
1-3 gen you could just do that
Now in the last few gens every pokemon in your party gains full XP for the fight
So you always end up with a full team of pokemon at the end
Including bdsp
I think that's probably a better system because it doesn't force you to use unideal pokemon for certain circumstances to level them up just to keep them from falling behind
i don't mind the exp all as long as at some point they make the games more challenging by default or let us turn it off
i love gen 3 but i hate the grind for the e4
spending hours grinding on victory road so you can grind exp against sydney
the one problem with the post gen 7 exp share is that it cant be turned off so if you fight everyone you will be over leved with no way to prevent it
in gen 8 and 9 i tried to stay on or below level for gyms
in gen 9 it's a lot easier to do that
but gen 8 it's pretty annoying
because of all of the mandatory fights
yeah the exp share that could be turned off was the best way to do it imo
Got the magearna
nice!
Need to actually have them all in a living dex now
That's true, bdsp I was 10 lvls overleveled on all 5 of my Pokemon at all points
It was absolutely too much
They give too much XP
Just delete. I don’t see why not?
Also may want to ask Megaman in #tech-support for a more in depth answer
thanks
Ahh just got in the room with Cynthia
And I'm in the post game
Ok I won
Let it be known. Scizor sucks lmfao even with swords dance he's too slow and takes too many hits. Sure he did end up wiping the psychic girl but damn he ain't been very helpful
Ded before he can even touch garchomp
for the lone Skarmory in the audience
I believe earth/dragon/fire was unresisted in gen 4
in fact I think dragon/fire was only resisted by heatran (in gen 5 it can also resist ground with an air balloon but only until hit) prior to the fairy type
If you're talking about the e4, the psychic trainer is a guy named Will lol.
i think they're talking about lucian
yea Will was gen 2
Ah yeah was thinking another e4, either way both guys lol.
Hello pokemonners
what
pokemon players
i will use crunch on you, and let me tell you, it'll be stab
Alarmingly effective
That's why it runs bullet punch
does anyone have any advice on how to get into Pokemon Showdown?
So sacred gold apparently has early game ralts and larvitar

Also, im apparently playing the fairy type version, which as the name suggests, adds the fairy type, but also increases shiny odds to 1/257

I fooled myself
I thought these 2 were shiny cuz i saw a clear color difference
Also me with super slow reaction time
I dunno why but the stop + circle just got me for some reason
Vine boom
And i was just going for a gible lol
Also do you know where numel spawns?
I wanna complete pokedex before i start shiny hunting
I added these three together for that beautiful video
Ok thanks
also I had sound off so I didn't hear the boom lol
Its 151 in paldea pokedex
For the info I don't own the dlc still and didn't saw anything about the dlc
Since beginning
❌
Cuz
Cuz
No? Numel was always in area 2, what?
Believe what you want bud, he was always there
A numel conspiracy
Google said area 1
Why is there a numel conspiracy going on rn?
You can't find it there at all
Sorry for my conspiracy rant but i am just not used from people playing sloppy
lol
but yea I remember hitting it on my nuz when I figured out you could get encounters registered in the team star bases
I just smh void it this felt so weird
And i felt very dumb
And when most said cuz or made fun of me i began getting irrationall and angry
updates. i beat electric trial deathless. but guzma claimed 2 souls zoroark due to putting the wrong pokemon in my 6th slot and drifblim due to sucker punch hitting through +4 evasion. also the manditory bewear trainer killed salazale due to a crit take down. to replace zoroark we added pangoro. to replace drifblim we added skarmory and to replace salazle we added togedimaru
also this is my furthes ultra locke attempt ever
So I only now got up to speed with what happened to relic castle
Is TPC/nintendo out of their fucking minds?
always, and we just gotta accept it as fact
heres my level 6 gyarados
man, looking at how GF and TPC are treating the older games kinda depresses me
one of these days it'll be impossible to transfer up pokemon from gens 1-7
because pokemon bank might get shut down at a moment's notice
I would honestly rather gamefreak focus on preserving the franchise's past first before making any new games
outside of the VC gen 1/2 I wouldn't be surprised if they consider gens 1-7 to be "retired" since it feels like they're increasingly treating the games like the TGC ever since about... gen 6 it feels like?
where things rotate in and out of being usable based on what gets released and things that aren't usable "don't exist until they are"
question for anyone who knows sinnoh legacy is it worth it?
and If that's the case, I'm seriously never picking up a pokemon game again
probably for the best lol
the times you had are good at least, but eventually they will become self-contained, and an upwards journey is no longer supported, instead split into each its own journey
outside of the old games that I already know are good
and fan games
because fan game put more effort in than a multibillion dollar company and its baffling
for the most part they don't need to
precisely because of that multibillion dollar bit. the profits are already secure so best to put that effort to branching out and expanding the brand rather than keeping customers loyal (since they cycle in and out so much that the numbers stay stable anyway), tis do be how a merch-based franchise works and pokemon's arguably the most successful example of one, at least one that started as a video game
which isn't to say you can't have fun with the games themselves though, more just to recognize when you aren't having fun anymore and freely hop ship to new waters
which for a lot of pokemon fans I can't blame them since gen 6+ has a very different design mentality from the first 5 gens
all I care about at this point are the designs
lot more focus on spin-offs being their own constantly updated thing and the VGC scene than there was in gens 1-5 (especially since I forget what gen VGC even became a thing. 3?)
see, I stayed on with gens 6 and 7 since they at least put in an effort to keep the older mons around
and I really like mega evolution as a concept
I don't blame them for that tbh, once you go past about 750 it gets increasingly rough to be able to keep track of everything
far more than any of the other gimmicks
(tbh I'd almost limit it at 500 myself)
I'd prefer to go gimmickless myself but if I had to rank it'd probably be tera <- Z-moves/megas <- dynamaxing
megas I've warmed up to in the past 2-3 years (mostly thanks to GO) but the favoritism still rubs me the wrong way somewhat even if the other 3 being usable by any mon all led to "the rich get richer" scenarios
I don't like Terastalization because it completely destroys the whole point of typings
megas were the best to me and still are
my main thing with Z-moves is that I wish they leaned harder into giving moves neat effects rather than just "nukes the opposing team with varying power" like with some of the status moves
I like tera for in-game but I can otherwise see that since it's basically a controllable hidden power on steroids
while dynamaxing feels like it was made only for the VGC and anime and just feels miserable in any other context
Megas were best because certain pokemon NEEDED it to be any good
Lopunny with scrappy comes to mind
I guess but I still don't like the pick-and-choose of it especially when some were clearly just done for publicity (X forms, looking at you two even if mewtwo's isn't as blatant about it)
that's gamefreak and tpc's fault
some of the designs were cool though
not the gimmick as a whole
and also some powerful mons getting it that felt like they should have been boss only (salamence, looking at you)
but yea as I said I'd prefer to just go back to gen 5 of having no gimmicks at all but in-game tera feels like the only one where I feel fine using
at the very least, some of the megas should've had MUCH harder means to obtain
outside of some of the weaker megas like audino's or banette's
like maybe instead of just giving you the stones, you have to actually earn the right to mega evolve with your chosen pokemon
either way though, TLDR: I don't blame anything for leaving pokemon in the past 10 years or so since it's two very different different design mentalites to the previous two phases (1-2 and 3-5)
(I kinda tend to put pokemon in four phases: gens 1-2, 3-5, 6-7, and 8-9)
because the idea is supposed to be that they are mega evolving because of the strong bond with their trainer
I guess GBC era, GBA/DS era, 3DS era, and Switch era
after the ghost trial wrecked half my team to the shadow realm i had to re build. the only living members from the trial were decidueye, skarmory and pangoro. after weighing all my box options i added alolan vulpix krokorok and torkoal to the team. do we think this squad will make it far without any deaths?
at least in terms of years
yea DS was 2006-2013 or 2007-2013
agreed but i can see the misunderstanding
I mostly just put gen 3 in there since it doesn't feel right putting gen 3 in its own era since it still feels similar to gen 4
Gen 3 was around long enough to warrant it
is this before or after ghost trial
(er, as in did you make it past or did you wipe and this is wave 2)
my message says after the ghost trial wrecked half my team i added the mon at the bottom to replace the ones that died
sorry if that wasn't clear
going by that
Gens 1-2: 1996-2002 (6 years) OR 1998-2003 (5 years)
Gen 3: 2002-2006 OR 2003-2007 (4 years either way)
Gens 4-5: 2006-2013 (7 years) OR 2007-2013 (6 years)
Gens 6-7: 2013-2019 (6 years, 5 years if you count Lets GO as gen 8)
Gens 8-9: 2019-2025 (6 years, probably, 7 if you again count LGO as gen 8)
Gen 4 started in 2006, with some overlap with gen 3 thanks to movies and spin-offs
ah so you are past. in that case, skarmory will be your ace in the hole against Guzma 2.
watch out for nanu though since some of his members are specially focused. might wanna leverage krook there
mainly due to munchlax, weavile, and lucario appearing in various gen 3 related things
yea I listed japanese releases first then US releases for gens 1-5 (gen 6 standardized it worldwide hence why gen 5 was only 2.5 years internationally lol)
that was one of the few times they did the whole teasing of new gens right
which one, 5 or 6?
Gen 4
I like how my instinct was like "and not gen 7's "oops we showed the entire dex off pre-release except for like 2-3 lines""
guzma 2/3 is the reason i taught my skarmory tailwind.
the one thing I will warn you about though: ||lead A-ninetales on nanu since I think his last two mons both have rock coverage||
actually nvm I think all 3 might let me check
||first and third do, but second has earthquake||
naw only the lead and the ace do
they had the most marketing of any gen aside from gens 1 and 6
actually let me break down that fight
ultra or regular?
i think a tales will just ohko all 3 mons
ultra
Krok resists all of lead (rock/ghost) and ace's (dark/rock) movesets aside from ||two fake outs||, skarmory can take the middle but might get worn down by crunches. A-Ninetales can cover but make sure you max out its speed EVs because nanu has done the same I think
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that was for vanilla hang on
nvm that fight's unchanged in USUM aside from just having higher levels
so you'll actually have a krookodile
this is exactly why i think i just lead a tales and click d gleam 4 times. i have to 4 times because of fake out
lol
I mean if you aren't opposed to using items (which is fair, I have them banned in my own runs) then might as well lead with an X special defense if you know you're gonna get hit with fake out
very possible as long as they dont live and have rock type to swing back
but yea outside of items then that's probably just good to click
unless you want to throw an intimidate to lower the damage of it first
i dont remember much other than the krok and A-persion worst case to worry about is rock or heaven help random steel move
I can confirm that ||they do not have steel moves||
alright if you really wanna go deep:
||lead is impish with full special investment (attack/defense), middle is attack/speed and jolly, ace is special attack/speed and timid||
out speed watch out for priority (fake out sucker punch) and the like
...so yea fat chance of outspeeding that ace
my advice with a grain of salt i dont even remember what i did during the last time i played any sun/moon game
iirc my alolan vulpix is + speed nature but i can check rq if you want me to
incidentally if you're in vanulla then krook can handle the ace decently enough.
||unless you have a special defense reducing nature and really bad special bulk but you can make that up with EV training. neverending nightmare does about 37% on a non-crit with that spread.||
just checked and its a ||minus defence plus attack|| nature
on krook or ninetales
what game yall talking abt
alola ultra vers
tales
krook is a terrible - attack + special defence
believe it or not that's actually neutral in this fight
you do less damage (3-shot with EQ/brick break, assuming it has ||fur coat|| of course) but ace isn't hitting as hard
ouch
incidentally the two-shot is a 48% range anyway even with an attack increasing nature so not missing much
the rough thing is dig will be my best move on it till 54 as eq tm is post game
is it already a krook?
naw but it will be by the time i have to fight nanu rn while we are talkin im progressing with the poe town story part
SO ABOUT THAT
gen 5 strat here but, keep krokorok unevolved (eviolite?) until level 42 if you want your earthquake
--> level 48 in gen 7
ok nevermind
oh it's 43 for sandile which is a bit much
its just best to evo it
yea
for what it's worth dig isn't a bad option since nanu ||has no moves to take advantage of your downturn||
that also means you can put on leftovers to get double the recovery
whats even the worst part is in guzma 1 i lost 2 pokemon that should not have been lost. 1 was to bad planning and putting the wrong mon in the back and the other was a stupid +4 evasion hitting sucker punch ko. i will though also before the gladeon fight go get some held items like lefties and such so i can just back to back the 2 fights
oh right I forgot you also don't get more catches for a while that kinda makes things a lot dicier
I gotta hop out though but I have a feeling you can at least get past nanu
i mean ill get the stuff on the way to poe town but after that nothin for a long while. also see yah
bro why can't I save in Pokemon daybreak it says couldn't save when I try to save
croagunk would win
🥵🥵
howd u get shadow groudon?
current event questline
huh
aint there also a lechonk one
WHY IS THE THEME OF A CAVE SONIC ADVENTURE 2 THAT PUMPKIN KNUCKLES STAGE
is this a fucking flutter mane
pokemon pathways
Nah, that's a regular misdreavus
World of rockets questline
PUMPKIN HILL, AINT GONNA LET IT GET TO ME JUST GONNA CREEP
"It always goes back to Pumpkin Hill!" - Alfred (Snapcube)
asking anyone who knows sinnoh legacy is it worth it?
someone knows cute or good pokemon fan games or rom hacks? (no dark plot)
i was asking for the opinion on sinnoh legacy
Pokemon xenoverse is pretty good
Why did I yawn when I read this?
late but Altered Emerald is also good if you don't mind "vanilla region but X" fangames
Eepy sheepy
its male
Its a pink sheep, it can identify as whatever it wants
i wonder what mareeps think about shiny wooloo....
I lose my pc but i have my boy in android :^
no, like, if shiny mareep is a black sheep, what does mareep or heck, even other wooloo think of it?
or is it the sheep version of.....
playing sheep dog?
I GOT THE GAY DUCK
can i ask about pokemon gba rom hacks here or no?
You have received Donald Duck
I think so?
im just looking for a gba thats in sinnoh idk just feel like going thru sinnoh with quality of life updates dex too if i can
i always liked quaxly the most from the moment i saw him
fuecoco
when scarlet and violet was announced i was like
a\these guys are so fucking cool
first saw the starters designs didnt hit with me but still good designs
ducks are cool]
designs were good but ducks arent a design that resonates with me
im going to push my anti gen 1 agenda from now on
im just looking for a sinnoh gba rom hack but idk many by name
idk
maybe just play a gen four hack
stuff i have alredy only work with gba and earlier
no way thats real
Ayo sheep racism!?
pink
What? XD
My fav are
These I got lucky but also I'm mad about getting like instead of getting cool mons I get bugs
hang on let me go up mine real sec
dunno why it double posted, only picked ones that weren't previously mentioned since they're all good
I didn't even know they could be shiny in GO until my friend traded me one lol
Shiny lurantis is one of the few green shinies that I think looks good
i still dont like how affection messes with the battle
Ferrothorn is always such a pretty shiny.
Espurr is cool
Egg.
hey chespin i do not want type overlap so uhh yeah fuck you
Sad chespin noises
sorry but i got the gay duck
chespin needs more appreciation
yeah but i would get type overlap...
then make room for chespin
sorry but the overlap is with my starter
It's probably more cuz of the final evo. Cuz Quazly himself just looks like Donald Duck to me.
yeah
Usually is by friendship I'm pretty sure so it's probably still that.
i think 120 base attack on a mon is a litle good
Yeah it's pretty good
Mega heracross real good attack stat
i was looking at all fighting type starters and/
Quaxquaval has the second highest at 120 and Emboar is the highest at 123
Thats surprising
Yep. And then Infernape and Blaziken are both more mixed attackers and chesnaught has decent attack but is more defensive.
Freaking game has the audacity to do this early in the game and I have no balls to catch it with!
Shiny poochyena moment
Alternatively, starly
i came back for a few minutes and suddenly shiny zoroark.

LOOK AT IT IN POKEMON VIOLET. IT LOOKS SO GOOOOOOOOOD
this is awesome. it may not be an alpha but who cares, its shiny!
Seriously, it was ina outbreak i was just flying to the outbreak and boom, shiny.
and i just knew... i had to transfer it to pokemon violet
honestly, this took way longer then you would think.
like i have the shiny charm on pla and it took who knows how long to get this thing
I could have a shiny charm idk shiny odds 4 times increased
i had to urge to get the shiny charm in PLA after i got it in violet
And i still wouldn't be able to get it
enough mmo's in the fieldlands and you'll get one
Tbh it's always a nice addition as i just love to complete every pokedex
That's how i play Pokémon
My luck is horrible like i have such bad luck that it's painful to watch it
As an example if something is 10% i will maybe maybe when the stars align correctly get it once so for me it doesn't make a difference if it's 10 or 0.00.01%
That's why I stopped playing baldurs gate i am just too unlucky
oh wow
i need the hisui mark on the zoroark so... time to teleport it to hisui to take a selfie
does anyone play TGOM
if it was formerly an alpha then you get two special marks for that
nice job either way tho
it wasnt an alpha but still... its so cool.
Cloie
aw well wanna chat i can help you download it if you want its sooooooooooooooooooo fun
or PLA
You should probably write the full name of the game
There's a lot of acronyms out there
this gym of mine
I do not, sorry
I played it for a bit
But got pretty fast bored of it
I can remember using the steel type one
april fools usually means ditto or sudowoodo spam for GO
...except last year where they just gave everyone the Average July 2016 Player Experience At Home
Imagine they did a Legends Z-A trailer on April Fools and it's all fake info
Either that or it starts out as Legends Z-A and trails into something like Pokemon Unite
"Haha we bamboozled you, ZA doesn't exist, megas aren't coming back, and the next games are more kanto remakes"
here are my sprite tierlists for red and green and red and blue
im doing yellow now
Why tf does Geodude look so stretchy 😭
That vileplume color combo looks kinda sick
If they actually revisit Kanto in a game that isn't another remake, I'd appreciate that tbh
Specifically, whatever kind of Legends game you could cook up for Kanto
And maybe even have it feature this guy
That’d be kinda Sick tho tbh
I wish
some ultra sun locke updates. torkoal died to a team skull grunt getting a crit poision sludgebomb, deathless guzma, pangoro died to gladeon due to me thinking type null would outspeed my pangoro so i did not click brick break like i shoud have. and nanu was deathless but i had a scare when a crit dark z move brought my krookodile to 12 hp
Honest i like RB pidgey better than modern pidgey
We already have umbreon tho

Its basically a bootleg poison type
When i think toxic stall, i think umbreon
hmm
what would a poison type eeveelution look like?
i mean, obviously it can't be umbreon
so...
ahh., hold on
we can make it the opposite of umbreon
A speedy yet fragile poison type
Soooo... salazzle :v
Mebbe some kind of poison dart eevee
You just described most poison types actually
But also
We are LONG overdue for a dragon eeveelution
Shouldve gotten one as sylveon's counterpart
They don't want to elevate any one form other than eevee over the others
But then they made sylveon
Sylveon's already been put in place along the others
Who proceeded to dominate competitive
Game Freak doesn't care about competitive
guys I'm just wondering what a poison type eeveelution would be like
Soap eevee
It will have... paws
so... if espeon gets rekt by umbreon
And a tail
and leafeon gets rekt by glaceon
then what would slyveon get rekt by?
a poison type eeveelution
Steel eevee
Robo eevee
but I'm trying to think of a legit counterpart to sylvie and
Actually thats a pretty good idea for the steel eeveelution
ok I can't seem to find a good ref to counter sylvie, but I do have an interesting idea for a regional
steel space sylvie
yep
Sylveon might have inspiration from lunar rabbits
but I think a pretty cool counterpart to sylvie would be an unseelie eeveelution
I dont think eeveelutions are in the running for regional variants, since each one already technically is one
Which would normally be dark, but that's already taken
Or maybe umbreon is unseelie?
The fighting eevee
Puncheon 
if Sylveon has ties with Chang'e, what if this poison type eeveelution have ties with witches?
Just make another multi-evolving pokemon that covers the other types 
The flying eevee
Birdeon
Flapeon
ok this might not be one for the poison type
I think it would be interesting for it to be ghost, since it's based on superstitions
Wins the 'most successive vowels' award
Ground type eevee
Dirteon
Rock eever
Rock eevee
Rockeon
Rocke-

We're coming up with the stupidest possible names
its just a regular eevee under a white sheet
Illltoto type eevee
Toteon
ok I had fun with this one
basically it's a ghost type eeveelution that is based on black cats and bad luck
Obviously a poison type
Look at those toxic beauty standards
it's very sweet, but it causes bad luck around it
ability: jinx
opponent's move accuracy is inversed
....I might want to workshop it a little, but I think its a dangerous yet fun idea
well, it's dead, soooo
I also based it off of sphinx cats
It would instantly be banned from anything even remotely competitive
Though that does mean ohko moves will hit with 100% accuracy

another idea is that the opponent's moves may land on itself
That's the silver lining
....actually, correction, it would be around 70%
Still would hit most of the time
it would be like shedinja's wonder guard (can't be hit EXCEPT for its weakness)





