other-pokemon-games

[jovial sapphire]

and it gets plus or minus

what

i thought that was plusles signature

because it sucks

clear body is cool tho

[rain quarry]

I think a few mons have plus and minus now

[turbid horizon]

Toxtricity should have gotten a x1.5 speed/x1.5 special attack move imo

Call it Rock On or something

[jovial sapphire]

very specific

[rain quarry]

Toxtricity's one of my favourite dudes

[jovial sapphire]

why do you say dudes

[rain quarry]

Why not

[jovial sapphire]

idk man

[turbid horizon]

Not necessarily, it would actually be surprisingly useful to multiple sound users

[rain quarry]

I do say this toxtricity fellow is quite exquisite

[turbid horizon]

Toxtricity, Seismitoad, Exploud

[jovial sapphire]

true true

wait seismetoad

thats sound?

[proper ravine]

wth is Terastal? That insurgence time-dimension thing? Tresseract?

[jovial sapphire]

my man

are you living under a rock

[proper ravine]

Under a roof

[rain quarry]

Based

[jovial sapphire]

its the new gimmick

in scarlet and violet

[proper ravine]

ok, I stop being curious 😂

[jovial sapphire]

yeah cause i answered the question?/

[rain quarry]

Basculegion really did save one of the least-liked pokemon in the franchise and that's pretty cool

[jovial sapphire]

ok so that was very off topic

but you are right

[rain quarry]

Considering your topic is something we can't discuss here I gotta move on, no?

[jovial sapphire]

true true

anyway i really like kleavor

[rain quarry]

Kleavor is pretty cool

[jovial sapphire]

the arms are kinda goofy but still

[rain quarry]

I like the sorta "rock paper scissors" dynamic the trio have now

[jovial sapphire]

what?

ohhhh

i get it

[rain quarry]

Ye, idk if it's fully intentional but if it is that's cool

[jovial sapphire]

are you talking about the evo line?

or am i dumb

if i am please explain

[rain quarry]

Yeah, Scyther being paper, Scissor being Scissors, and Kleavor being rock

[jovial sapphire]

scizor

i also called it scissor for like 5 months

[rain quarry]

Lol, that's fair

All three having the same BST is a pretty neat concept

Scizor will probably always remain the most competively viable I imagine, but the fact you can go with all 3 is nice

But bug/rock is a neat typing and Sheer Force is nice

[jovial sapphire]

scizor is the best tho

[rain quarry]

Scizor is my all time favourite pokemon

[turbid horizon]

The issue with Pokémon like Kleavor is that they don't give most Pokémon the right setup to make up for their shortcomings

Kleavor could be a menace with sheer force and rock polish but I don't think it's attack stat will be big enough to really make a dent without being boosted

Don't get me wrong, it's high, but even with sheer force not high enough to compete.

Especially since, stupidly, high crit moves aren't boosted by sheer force, so you can't do sheer force stone edge

[shrewd furnace]

With a base of 135? Of course, Sheer Force not working with high crit moves is silly, but this does not strike me as sub-par attack.

[jovial sapphire]

yeah

[turbid horizon]

Just ain't enough for it's typing. It would have to be a setup sweeper with rock polish, and yet it would be forced out by a lot of bulky Mons

Rampardos has 165 with sheer force and it's not good.

[jovial sapphire]

yeah but doesnt rampardos have everything else bad

[turbid horizon]

Hell, if they'd given it ten more points in speed, it could have been a decent scarf pick, but in that regard it would be outclassed by even regular darmanitan still

[jovial sapphire]

ok hear me out

its really cool

[turbid horizon]

For sure, but so are most of my favourite Unovan Pokémon, and Gamefreak didn't give them the right set to thrive either

[jovial sapphire]

yeah they do that

[turbid horizon]

They're so shy about giving most Pokémon really great options and why? I think it's stupid that they seem to designate some types of Pokémon as Necessarily Weaker when so much of Pokémon media is being able to make anything strong if you work hard enough

Why should Pokémon with only two stages be so limited most of the time? There are other ways you can lock potential than evolution

[shrewd furnace]

(On a different note, reading up on Sheer Force informed me it has a fun snyergy with Life Orb.)

[turbid horizon]

You could have them learn their best moves quite late

[jovial sapphire]

how?

im intrigued

[turbid horizon]

Oh yeah life orb sheer force is fun

[turbid horizon]

Life orb doesn't take hp with sheer force

[jovial sapphire]

oh what

[turbid horizon]

(so long as you're using a move the ability boosts)

[jovial sapphire]

oh

[turbid horizon]

Aqua jet, for example, would still trigger life orb

But no self damage would happen with rock slide

[jovial sapphire]

wait what

ok ima look at sheer force again

[turbid horizon]

Any percentage based secondary effect on a move will be ignored, and the damage will be boosted

[jovial sapphire]

is priorty not an additional effect?

[turbid horizon]

No, it's not percentage based

Say a move has a chance to paralyse, burn, etc

That counts

[jovial sapphire]

yeah

[turbid horizon]

And flinch chance also counts, even guaranteed flinch attacks like fakeout

[jovial sapphire]

wait even fake out

[turbid horizon]

I believe so

[jovial sapphire]

yeah it does

it says

[turbid horizon]

Stupidly, this means high crit attacks don't get boosted.

[jovial sapphire]

oof

[turbid horizon]

And I say stupidly because I don't actually believe it would be all that op

Rock slide is a good and common sheer force companion, but stone edge would not be too strong for the Pokémon that have both it and sheer force

[jovial sapphire]

ok so it says here

its because its not chance-dependant

[proper ravine]

Wacky collection

[jovial sapphire]

theres all these fakemon and then feebas

[vocal rivet]

And evie

[jovial sapphire]

and kirlia

and rhyhorn

wait whats rhyhorns evo

i always forgt

[turbid horizon]

Ryan

[cunning parrot]

You gave Star Platinum the nickname Muda, you monster!

[proper ravine]

Too bad, lol

anyway, muda is young

[cunning parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/muda-muda-muda-giorno-jojos-bizarre-adventures-jjba-useless-gif-15102463

[proper ravine]

Perfect name for a perfect pokémon

[jovial sapphire]

did you know that vaporeon-

[proper ravine]

yes i know that's vaporeon

[jovial sapphire]

no like its the meme

[proper ravine]

I just break your cursed meme

[proper ravine]

you just notice feebas? There're also Kirlia, Eevee, Saihon, Dratini, Mainan, Phione, Zigzagoon, Lilligant, Primeape, Kabuto, Bulbasaur, Rowlet, Nyabby, Blaziken, and Ashirene. They're canon pokémon

[jovial sapphire]

my man

my point was

that feebas is not very exciting

and it was funny

that in all these fakemon

theres

feebas

[proper ravine]

🗿👍

[proper ravine]

the pokedex is true
Ridiculed for its shabby appearance, it is ignored by researchers. It lives in ponds choked with weeds.

[jovial sapphire]

lmaooo

[proper ravine]

"if you can't love me at my worst, you don't deserve to love me at my best" - Milotic

[jovial sapphire]

ive never used milotic

[proper ravine]

because it's hard to evolve in canon game

[jovial sapphire]

i usually just use kingler as my water type

true

[proper ravine]

dudududun

[jovial sapphire]

bruhh

thats

SUS

[cloud kettle]

Just finished paying off my preorder for pkmn scarlet

[proper ravine]

Koraidon gang

[jaunty heath]

I'm getting both for my birthday

[cunning parrot]

I’m gonna wait to see if they’re good

[slow ferry]

My mother and I have a tradition of splitting the duologies between us. She's dibs'd Scarlet, so Violet I go.

[fierce breach]

I’m waiting till I get scarlet for free on Christmas and then there will be wikis and guides that exist by that time for me to use while playing

[proper ravine]

the heck? All moves are supereffective. When it's just effective, IT'S CRIT.

[proper ravine]

Rematch...

[proper ravine]

@autumn lantern Looks like we got the same "problem" 🗿 (maybe all Pokémon essential game in general)

[hard plume]

so much quality

[turbid horizon]

Power of Alchemy should copy wonder guard.

If you can't kill Alolan Muk before the Shedinja and don't have a ground move to deal with it then screw you good luck

[proper ravine]

awackward moment

[turbid horizon]

Y'know I think a lot of people like Charizard Y more because it seems less intentionally badass

But Charizard X has tough claws, which in my eyes makes it way better because I think it's more fun to use

I like Pokémon with tough claws who get to utilise weaker attacks like dragon claw

Frankly if they had JUST done mega X I'd be happy, it should have been Charizard's only mega

But they had Y as well, and made it lame

[rough fiber]

Also the fact the other two didn't get the same

Need my Blastoise X

[hardy ivy]

After what felt like hours I finally got a shiny tynamo

[rain quarry]

Congrats

[hardy ivy]

thanks

[turbid horizon]

Water/flying, bring back some Wartortle elements

[turbid horizon]

The qol in games like Radical Red and Inclement Emerald makes it harder to play normal Pokémon games tbh

[jovial sapphire]

qol?

[rain quarry]

Quality of Life

[jovial sapphire]

o

[proper ravine]

noice

[turbid horizon]

I continue to be torn between wanting to use Tyranitar and not wanting to use a sand team

[rustic estuary]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3bul16NEhM

[turbid horizon]

Idea:

Guts should count hail and Sandstorm as suffering

Give guts Pokémon the chance to use other items while expanding the typical sand and ice team roster

[turbid horizon]

Y'know what I wanna see? A rival who acts more like a companion from the anime

I don't want a forgettable dude I barely see, I want someone with me city to city who I can interact with

Most rivals show up for important stuff anyway, just have them follow you sometimes or hang around at the start of routes to catch up later

Have it be a big deal when you beat the game and you head your separate ways

[jovial sapphire]

but it would get kinda annoying after awhile

like whenever you do anything

boom dialouge

[cunning parrot]

Wasn’t Hop like that?

[rain quarry]

Wouldn't it also be kinda weird to have a guy constantly following you and occasionally stop you in your tracks to say "erm I feel like battling"
It atleast makes a little more sense that they battle you upon their encounters instead

[turbid horizon]

Nah like I said, it'd follow the anime's example. Have either have the rival break off occasionally, fight after, or when you come to certain locations, have them decide it would be a good place for a fight

Also this is unrelated but I'm thinking about mega Flygon again

Because I'm realising that it probably would have been pretty good kind of no matter what

Unless they dumped it's speed stat or something, it would at the very least be one of few megas which you would be able to switch into freely

Outside of immunities, most megas can't switch in freely because you don't want one of your most valuable Pokémon taking damage before it enters it's good form

But with how common ground attacks are, Flygon could have jumped in on an earthquake or other ground type move and then mega evolve into a mega with a different ability

[proper ravine]

Final battle before the elite four

[proper ravine]

...

[jovial sapphire]

kill kill kill

[proper ravine]

Oh i cropped the game name 🙃 it's Pokémon Wack. Some NPC will ask us to bring them to join our squad

[jovial sapphire]

it sure is wack

[proper ravine]

Wack Tutorial is done

[jovial sapphire]

sus

[foggy echo]

I don't know what it says about me, but I am too nervous to make fakemons/fanmade games from the fear of them being bad while there are people not carring about it. It kinda annoys me about myself.

[jovial sapphire]

littearly if its bad then thats fine

if you do it bad once

you can learn from your mistakes

this is first grade stuff

[proper ravine]

"too bad" - A hedgehog

[crimson cargo]

this is probably my most unlucky successful game of showdown i've ever had, i mean who in the world has gotten frozen by an alolan sandslash using blizzard for some reason, outside of hail, without having ur mon thaw, twice??? https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8uu-1693778497-wzhig56itguuj0547ep9lzdb1hmmqcnpw

[foggy echo]

Propebly a stupid question and idea... How you'd like to see a Pokemon fangame where pokemons are replaced with Half-Life creatures?

[rough fiber]

Doesn't seem like there be enough

Maybe throw some portal & l4d in there

[foggy echo]

I was thinking to add cut enemies.
And also I still debate if I should include human enemies or not.

But including Portal could work, as they share universe.

[proper ravine]

anyway rex, do u wanna join Wack discord server?

[turbid horizon]

Honestly toxic should have way less pp

If you're smart enough to run moves like heal bell you shouldn't very easily be stalled out regardless

At least cut it to like a max of 16

[cunning parrot]

I think it's really stupid that Nidoran♀️ is still the only one of its line that can breed

[proper ravine]

nidoking can breed, but nidoqueen and nidorina can't 🤔🤔🤔 sus

[turbid horizon]

Here's an interesting topic I saw

If every gen had a second pseudo Legendary, which existing Pokémon would you choose to get those honours?

(or to be less specific, what three stage Pokémon do you think should have been pseudo legends?)

I've said it before, I'll say it again, Grimmsnarl should have been

It plays in a really interestingly and it's only really kept down by stats

[rough fiber]

Gen 1 and farfetch

[cunning parrot]

I would say Flygon, but gen 3 already has Salamence and Metagross

[turbid horizon]

Flygon's a fair choice

Inclement Emerald makes vikavolt a pseudo Legendary and puts basically all of the stat boost into speed (and a little defense) which is cool

[fierce breach]

I would choose volcarona for gen 5, Ik it’s a 2 stage mon but it’s very obviously deserving of being a psuedo

[turbid horizon]

It's pretty basic but I think Aggron would make a good pseudo.

[fierce breach]

Plus they can start making stage 2s pseudos if they want to

[turbid horizon]

Tbf it wouldn't be hard to give it a cocoon stage

Don't know why it isn't pseudo Legendary

Or even legendary for that matter

Wouldn't a fire bug from an ancient temple be the perfect hero for the Genesect movie instead of just having Mewtwo?

[rain quarry]

It would've been awesome

[fierce breach]

Volcarona also learns fiery dance at level 100

[rain quarry]

I would love if my boy Grimmsnarl got such a boost, but the problem is that he's a counterrpart to Hatterene, and I already don't like how Gamefreak abandoned the Jynx/Magmar/Electabuzz thing so idk

[fierce breach]

Make both of them psuedos

[rain quarry]

triple psuedo

[fierce breach]

Hatterene definitely also feels worthy of being a psuedo

[rain quarry]

Idk about gameplay-wise if this would work, but Duraludon would probably be a fitting psuedo just for the fact it's a big strong dragon dude

[leaden kestrel]

haxorus, noivern

[rain quarry]

When I first played BW I literally thought Haxorus was a psuedo lol

[fierce breach]

Klinklang and vanilluxe could also be cool psuedos

Actually maybe not klinklang because it’s kinda similar to the beldum line

But then again most of the psuedos are similar to eachother because they are mostly dragons lol

[rain quarry]

I think a Psuedo should also be a little bigger, Vanilluxe is pretty small and Klinklang is way smaller

[fierce breach]

True

I always forget how tiny klinklang actually is

I keep thinking it’s huge

Same with excadrill

[rain quarry]

Excadrill was the same with me at first, but now that I know he's short I've sorta gotten used to seeing him as such

[rough fiber]

Also being a bit more realistic probably Lapras

[rain quarry]

Lapras would be a good gen 1 one yeah

[turbid horizon]

Shit,

Krookodile would have been a pretty good one

Would have vibed with T-tar too

Imagine pseudo Legendary Krookodile, Metagross and T-tar on a sand team

And Hisuian Goodra

Thick fat should prevent freeze and burn as well

Most thick fat Mons are quite slow anyway, like Snorlax

Thick fat will prevent them from being fucked over by burn because of it

[placid iris]

ooh I like the idea

I'd be happy if my favourite dark type was a pseudo

[turbid horizon]

Really if any game could have afforded two pseudos, it would be black and white because of the sequel

I'd argue four lmao

One for each game, then the sequels

[proper ravine]

Get another shiny in the same place

[cunning parrot]

I really think if a Pokemon is asleep they should always get hit by attacks, and being paralyzed should decrease their evasiveness

[turbid horizon]

I mean it makes sense but its way too strong for two already great status effects

The paralysis one would be okay if you also nerfed the speed drop from half to 0.5

[finite prism]

Isn't half and 0.5 the same thing?

[turbid horizon]

I don't know how to say the opposite of x1.5 which is what one stage of boost is

Two stages is 2x, and paralysis is halved, ÷2

[turbid horizon]

Dumb but potentially hilarious change: moves like pixilate should convert all moves from metronome into the associated type with the associated damage boost

Flying type roar of time with aerilate? You got it

[blissful wraith]

why three stage? i think in the past a lot of pseudos or what people considered pseudo were typically two stage pokemon.

for awhile those were Arcanine, Volcarona, Zoroark, and Lucario. which over time changed. as they became more common.

that said should we choose rarer low % spawn pokemon as pseudo's? pokemon with singular evolutions? or should we base it off of their description?

personally i would have wished Absol was a Pseudo legendary considering how it only appears before a major calamity. which you would think makes it kinda rare.

[fierce breach]

The ones you mentioned don’t have 600 BST though

[blissful wraith]

okay so if its BST is 600? what else qualifies it to be a pseudo legendary?

[fierce breach]

just that and not being a legendary or mythical ig

[rain quarry]

3 stage mon with 600 bst on the last evo, not a legendary or mythical

[fierce breach]

and also having 3 mons in the evolutionary line, although i could see that being changed to only 2 or so

[proper ravine]

there's a glitch in pokémon wack that allow us to get infinite beta stone. Farming time 😂😅

[leaden kestrel]

bruh wtf is that pic

[proper ravine]

press space with my foot while opening discord in my phone

[tranquil steeple]

🤔

[proper ravine]

basically like AFK farming, but this one is AFM farming (Away from Monitor)

[rain quarry]

Why are you gaming in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber

[turbid horizon]

I hate hidden abilities but I always hate when a Pokémon has a hidden ability, or a second ability, and their evolution doesn't

Why can't Hydreigon have hustle??

[fierce breach]

Why can’t flygon have arena trap or sheer force

😈

But anyway it’s weird how trapinch has THREE abilities but when it evolves it just loses all of them and gets boring levitate

[rain quarry]

Hydreigon just doesn't respect the hustle

I think the thematic reasoning for Hydreigon not having hustle is because his face isn't covered with hair anymore

[fierce breach]

I think it’s because gamefreak hates Pokémon with levitate getting extra abilities for some reason

Majority of the levitate pokemon have no other abilities

[rain quarry]

Well the thing is, they could've not given him levitate and just kept hustle, but they didn't and I think yeah it's because he can see now

[fierce breach]

Also hydreigon gets hustle in IF hehe

[rain quarry]

It's too bad we never got to atleast see what Hydreigon's beta design was

Apparently he was a Tank dragon and the tread patterns on the belly are leftover from that

[fierce breach]

Oh that’s interesting

[rain quarry]

The 2nd tank mon we have been denied

[fierce breach]

Cyborg dragons

Mecha king ghidorah

It all makes sense now

[rain quarry]

This is what they took from us

[fierce breach]

its super strange how they never gave gmax forms to tyranitar or hydreigon

[finite prism]

they deserved it imo

[rain quarry]

We could've got Godzilla vs Mecha Godzilla with ttar and duraludon

[dusk gyro]

hehe

samsung smart fridge

[turbid horizon]

Heavy Slam should have infinite potential.

It should not have a cap.

I want the skill swap Bronzong Celesteela heavy slam doubles meta

[kind iris]

So, remember when Gen 6 introduced stuff to make treating your Pokemon better feel worth it? (For example, enduring a normally-lethal hit or curing themselves of statuses because they like you)

What if, for certain trainers, those bonuses applied to some of their pokemon?

[turbid horizon]

It would probably be a decent way to add a new sense of difficulty but would need to be made into something more than rng bullshit if you wanted to not upset people

But I think Volo proves that Pokémon treated more like bossfights with special abilities unique to them work, with that two stage Giratina being pretty cool

[amber swan]

like gym leaders and that

[kind iris]

Haven't played legends arceus yet, though I DO PLAN TO

[turbid horizon]

If some strong trainers' ace could have some anime power up moment or endure to get one last hit in, and it was somewhat guaranteed instead of being random, that'd be great

Imagine playing Delta Emerald or whatever the fuck and you see the message "Norman's Slaking Stopped Loafing Around."

Suddenly the damn thing's standing

It's too late

[kind iris]

Well at that point you'd probably need to use your brain and bring a pokemon with the Prankster ability and moves that debuff Speed and/or Attack

So i'd say that's a welcome addition

[turbid horizon]

Well, that said, I do think it's important not to wall progression behind optimal teams

In that specific situation, having a nearby fighting Pokémon with Mach Punch, or simply a Pokémon available which can outspeed Slaking may be a decent but not completely op way of offering some ease to players

And as you said, players who did want to be optimal would be smart enough to get prankster Mons or a proper tank

I think my stance on the matter would be: have challenges like that which are simplified with optimal team setup, but in order to not have a player feel cheated or pushed towards the strongest Mons exclusively, have grinding be easy enough to piece together many Pokémon at a time to use on your team

[kind iris]

Speaking of pokemon whose abilities nerf them however, one change I would make to Regigigas' Slow Start ability is that after the 5 turns of being crippled have expired, the ability changes to "Serious Mode" or something among those lines and suddenly Regigigas' Attack and Speed increase at the end of each turn.
If that sounds familiar, that's because I got the idea from Touhou Puppet Dance Performance, which is basically a Touhou fangame that's like pokemon, but I digress.

[turbid horizon]

Honestly I would go as far as to say it should have an ability to completely replace slow start

Have there be some sort of mission to get it, but as you suggested have the ability not just not make it weaker, but be an active buff

Hell, I don't even think something like Huge Power would be unreasonable. Sure, choice band Regigigas would become a menace but who actually cares?

Power creep on legendary Pokémon is absurd to worry about when 90% of them are so broken that the non broken ones feel weak in comparison

[kind iris]

Speaking of power creep, hopefully future games add more pokemon with Unaware as an ability

That way stuff like Zacian Crowned are at least slightly easier to counter

[turbid horizon]

I think it would be nice to have Pokémon which aren't explicitly tanks with unaware

Try and negate that constant swapping shit, because it's boring

An offensive unaware Pokémon would still be able to prevent sweeping for some Mons if it had average bulk, and would better utilise unaware against defense-boosters

Maybe a Pokémon with no eyes based on the Blind Fighter archetype

[placid iris]

yeah, especially considering that Regigigas is currently tied with Slaking for having the highest attack stat of normal types

[turbid horizon]

Exactly. Double it.

The people asked for a Zacian counter and I give them Huge Power Choice Scarf Regigigas

[placid iris]

now that would be a lovely gift

[turbid horizon]

While we're at it I'll take that Original Dragon now please and thanks Gamefreak 🤲

[placid iris]

maybe give it a signature ability where it has ice, electric and fire STAB?

sounds right given the typings of the 3 pieces of the full thing

[turbid horizon]

That may be the best way of doing things. As for its actual typing I'd say Dragon/Psychic as psychic abilities are kinda tied to energy stuff

[placid iris]

yeah sounds right

plus I don't actually remember a dragon psychic type before now

if it did or does exist, it wasn't that notable

[turbid horizon]

Uhhh tryna think, I know there is one

Latias and Latios

[placid iris]

oh yeah how'd I forget?

[turbid horizon]

Eh, somewhat memorable

Honestly the last time they were important was when they were a glorified bike

[placid iris]

that's granted though. barely even remembered that

[turbid horizon]

But yes original dragon with 780 base stat please Nintendo

[placid iris]

should be enough to give mega rayquaza a good smacking or two

[turbid horizon]

Dragon/Psychic also works because it's finally a whole being again. Ideals and Truths are finally consolidated

Plus all of them are telepathic

And I believe Reshiram and Zekrom both have extrasensory when you find them? Pokémon loves that move

[turbid horizon]

Make it even more op, have it's fusion bolt/flare power be automatically doubled

It doesn't need the matching move to be used on the same turn because it's whole again

[placid iris]

they do have access to it so not putting it past them

[turbid horizon]

Zekrom and Reshiram are threats to the entire earth alone, slap em together with Kyurem and you've just got a kaiju

[placid iris]

I don't even think we could correctly say the power it'd have due to the offensive typing

[turbid horizon]

Then we simply terastalise

[placid iris]

oh dear lord

[turbid horizon]

And obviously it's also granted the effects of teravolt and turboblaze, aka moldbreaker

If we're following Zekrom and Reshiram's naming conventions (whilst adding a bit of Kyurem) influence, something like Gyurim could work. But honestly I'd lean away from the use of Grey in the name

I figured something with the Japanese word for Whole could work but as much as I want Zentairim to be a thing I think it's a bit too on the nose

[turbid horizon]

Real talk?

Dynamax cannon is shit.

It's offensive potential against Pokémon who are dynamaxed should be way better

[rain quarry]

It already does pretty good damage doesn't it

[turbid horizon]

I mean it's less than moves like fire blast on normal Pokémon, on dynamax it doubles to 200. And it's just not enough, especially when it's only super effective against dragons

They had the opportunity to create a legendary which could be a major threat to the disruptive BS of dynamax and it just doesn't really do the job

[rain quarry]

I think it's fine. The fact it's ran on pretty much any of his meta movesets would seem to suggest the move's worth it anyway

[turbid horizon]

Yeah but this is what I'm talking about with power creep on legendaries. They're already so busted that I don't see why they completely break some stuff and make balanced attacks for others

[cunning parrot]

Because GameFreak doesn’t know how to balance games

They do keep making slow bulky ice types after all

[blissful wraith]

no more legendary would be nice. we have way too many as it is. or at least slow down the rate of them. maybe add more Pseudo's in the mean time

[umbral egret]

just add two pseudos each game like hoenn

[turbid horizon]

At the very least give us more pseudo regionals

I believe Hisuian Goodra is the only one rn

[cunning parrot]

It’s not like every legendary is even good anyways

[glacial elm]

GUYS QUICK
I FOUND A DHELMISE IN SWORD AND I NEED TO KNOW WHAT GHOST TYPES ARE RESISTANT TO

it has giga drain so I can't whittle it with burn or poison and all of my Pokemon are 8-10 levels higher than it so-

[autumn basalt]

It resists Bug and Poison

Which, It's Grass Ghost so both are neutral

[glacial elm]

Thanks

Wish me luck

[fierce breach]

Yw

[glacial elm]

I am NOT killing a 1% find

Where are my timer balls when I need them 😭😭😭

[hushed spruce]

Sup dude

I heard you needed help

[glacial elm]

People got it covered already
Thanks anyway though

Now all I need is your prayers 🫡

[hushed spruce]

Wth

It has 5 weaknesses

[glacial elm]

I GOT IT

I FREAKING GOT IT
IT TOOK ME HALF AN HOUR OF WAITING FOR BURN AND SAND TOMB TO WHITTLE

It's... Eh

The fact that it's so rare is what's more important I suppose

Please <@&302155183708962827> add Dhelmise to infinite fusion in my honor 😔

This shitty dhelmise

[fierce breach]

No new Pokémon will be getting added

[glacial elm]

I thought not
But it was worth asking (not really)

It's so funny because I found it while trying to shiny hunt for the first time

I've already got a genuine Sinistea

I'm just catching all of the rare shit

Oh and a pyukumuku
Which Google says is rare but I'm not sure

I don't even remember catching it lmao

[hard plume]

Aw mann

[glacial elm]

Is pyukumuku actually rare? No shot, right? I don't wanna be like "CHECK OUT MY UBER-RARE PYUKUMUKU" and then have some guy laugh at me

[cunning parrot]

It's not really

[glacial elm]

Oh well

Good to know in advance lmao

[proper ravine]

He can't be damaged nor poisoned damn Neil!
(Pokémon Wack Postgame)

Dies struggling. And here's me, out of Hyper Potion 🗿

[round gull]

yall got any fakemon games recomendations

i already did pokemon infinity , insurgence , xenoverse

and sage

[turbid horizon]

Not really tbh, kind of a limited selection

Pokémon Opalo maybe but I've not played it

Uranium has a lot of fakemon. I enjoyed it but it's kinda mixed reviews

[proper ravine]

Wack, Rejuvenation, Reborn

[outer obsidian]

Wack is somewhat nsfw btw

[proper ravine]

all game are NSFW. Especially if y'roue boss is nearby 🗿

[outer obsidian]

thats not what i mean and you know it

[proper ravine]

as a "wackian citizen" ikr what u mean

[proper ravine]

maxed

[proper ravine]

Buzzwole

[round gull]

bro wth im playing pokemon opalo nuzlocke and i pushed a charizard thinking it would fly away and battle me or som but it freaking died

[placid obsidian]

Not wack

[placid obsidian]

Heh, they're not using my sprite for it

Good

[turbid horizon]

Please god can we do anything to the Pokémon meta to cut down on swapping-out

Sometimes I get games where it's just me and my opponent trying to guess swaps and it's the worst fucking game

[proper ravine]

i see, looks like most of spriter here are former wack spriter. Because some ||drama and bullshit|| now they just hate Wack as Wack "hate" them 🤔🤔🤔

[placid obsidian]

Wut

[slow ferry]

Yeah, only problem someone could have with Wack is external drama and such. Nothing internal. No racism or anti-Semitism or just really banal gender jokes. Just external drama.

[turbid horizon]

You're a fed I can read your name I KNOW you're a FEDERAL AGENT in the pocket of BIG WACK

[proper ravine]

no, i nick myself because I'm mostly playing Wack rn

[turbid horizon]

YOU'RE A FED

A FEDERAL AGENT

[proper ravine]

what's that?

[proper ravine]

ugh damn it, I deleted my othr save slot because no-yes option is reversed 😭🗿

[junior lake]

Just found Pokewilds and it's so fun/cute. Gen 2 style, randomized world generation, following pokemon, Base building game.

[proper ravine]

what's pokéwilds? i mean, ROM, browser game, or essential game like PIF?

[thin marsh]

It's a similar launch to infinite fusion (no emulator need) and it's like if Pokémon met Minecraft (from what I've seen). I'm giving it a shot right now!

[proper ravine]

got it

[proper ravine]

ah it's like the opposite of Pixelmon modded Minecraft.
While pixelmon is when Pokémon meets Minecraft, this game is when Minecraft meets Pokémon

[wooden bluff]

does anyone know why I can't click static pokémon options if I try to randomize my Heart Gold?

[weary forum]

I think that's bc you didn't randomize Wild pokemon ? Maybe try it

[turbid horizon]

Magnet Pull should stop switch-out moves

It's so niche at the moment and then a bunch of Mons have those anyway

[pine ingot]

Unfortunately, I know

[wooden bluff]

it's still unclickable 😦

is it because "Disable ROM Hack" is turned off?

[weary forum]

Idk then

[wooden bluff]

I clicked on the "Disable ROM Hack" and then could select the options. I just hope it will register to change them

[unborn halo]

what level does geodude evolve

[proper ravine]

how evo geodude

[jaunty kernel]

25

[proper ravine]

hmm on other channel

[turbid horizon]

Y'know what annoys me about Clefairy originally going to be the Pokémon Mascot instead of Pikachu

Clefairy is a Pokémon which can play decently in the games unevolved because of eviolite

And it's way cuter than Pikachu

Plus, instead of the bullshit plot of "oh well you missed all the starters but here's this fucking rat I keep in a secret container on my cool starter table, it's a dick"

YOU COULD LITERALLY HAVE HAD IT BE FROM THE MOON

[outer obsidian]

hot take, raichu is cuter than pikachu

[turbid horizon]

ASH COULD HAVE GOTTEN A SPACE STARTER

[turbid horizon]

For sure

Further:

We should have gotten Gorochu

My take would be Ash should have started with a Clefairy (or a Clefa who evolves once), and it would have had the Pikachu moment of not wanting to evolve. Hell, you could even have had it use an eviolite.

And Pikachu should have been a separate teammate, keeping it's standoffish nature

Which would have evolved into Raichu

Then into Gorochu, because look at it

Does that thing not scream season 1 Pikachu?

That thing wants to cause problems.

[outer obsidian]

I smell a fanfiction

[turbid horizon]

Gorochu could even have butted heads with Charizard being the two assholes of the team

That's two rewritten Pokémon and right off the bat his team is instantly way cooler

A starter Pokémon from space who's desire not to evolve is far more useable in game without having to give it extreme speed and a special item specific to itself

And we get to keep standoffish asshole Pikachu who gets to evolve into the far more befitting of its personality Gorochu

[outer obsidian]

That reminds me of a video series where ash woke up on time instead of sleeping in

and saved two buildings by doing so

[turbid horizon]

Hell, years later when the Alolan adventures come up, Gorochu would have the perfect opportunity to return and be a complete opposite to Alolan Raichu (or possibly Alolan Gorochu ig)

[foggy sigil]

wpoch

wpoch

epoch

just make a gorochu be a raichu/raichu alt fusion

or put in a request for someone to do

[proper ravine]

is this yours?

Screenshot by @autumn lantern

[pine ingot]

Yes that is his sprite

[unborn halo]

huh, looks like a flesh bud

[cunning parrot]

I like that Smogon has 2 sets for Haxorus that are exactly the same except one has swords dance and the other has dragon dance

[fierce breach]

Sometimes people run both setup moves

[dull crow]

it will be interesting in how it affects steel as a presumably common switch to type via terrastilize but also makesit less valuale as a steel killer ability that elaves em with no out

[turbid horizon]

Dragon dance always imo

Maybe swords if you're running sticky webs but I wouldn't risk it

Realistically, terrastalising will be a major boon to Mons who set up like Haxorus

You could avoid burn with fire (also resisting ice and fairy), resistances with steel, stab poison jab, etc

[uneven saddle]

Whats the difference between Premium and Standard wondertrades??

Either way I get trash

[rain quarry]

Oh, for IF questions you'll wanna ask in #general or #playthrough-talk in the future. But basically Premium wondertrades always result in a mon with a slightly higher bst. In both cases you will get better results if you trade better mons - trading away pidgeys and ratattas will usually result in trash

[uneven saddle]

ah okay cool, thanks

[turbid horizon]

How do you think the game would change if certain abilities/type effects were instead put into designated sub-categories?

Sound has been mentioned here before under a similar idea

But I'd like to propose alongside the idea of a sound sub-category of Pokémon: airborne Pokémon

They would essentially replace the sub-effect of flying types, meaning some flying types who aren't airborne will suffer from hazards

This would only effect hazards, and not immunity to ground, which would still only be a flying type thing

[tropic ravine]

well we already have a sub-category of grounded pokemon (species immunity to telekinesis) but thats an extremely minor thing

[turbid horizon]

It would mostly eliminate Levitate as an ability, allowing for the billion Pokémon suffering from it to get something more interesting

[turbid horizon]

Something more could probably be done with that under this same idea tbh.

This idea also comes with a new ability idea: Trapper

All hazards set up by a Pokémon with the trapper ability would effect all Pokémon, including airborne Pokémon.

Slap it on a spider Pokémon and you can finally have a sticky web that actually catches flies

[tropic ravine]

sneaky pebbles still effects flying and Levitate pokemon though

[turbid horizon]

Yeah it would still work on airborne Mons regardless

[tropic ravine]

and what about heavy duty boots

[turbid horizon]

They would be immune to Trapper it's gotta have something to counter it tbf

Might penetrate magic guard though.

Think of it like hazard mold breaker

I'd also like to put forward: full ground immunity would still only belong to flying types, but airborne Mons could be immune to earthquake exclusively

I don't actually think this would be a bad thing, because earthquake is kind of too strong imo

[tropic ravine]

thousand arrows

[turbid horizon]

And if Airborne Mons are mostly flying types and levitaters, it won't change much other than a few Pokémon now who would logically be airborne that don't currently have levitate or the flying type

[turbid horizon]

Thousand arrows would logically knock airborne Pokémon down, as would smackdown

Missed opportunity not having Hisuian Decidueye be grass/ground with thousand arrows tbh

[tropic ravine]

yes but then you’d have two grass/ground sinnoh starters

[turbid horizon]

Eh, still would have been better than what we got tbh

[turbid horizon]

Hot take maybe

Fan games shouldn't show me my IVs without also offering a way to change them

This is directed at Pokémon Infinity which, despite having no IV changer, insists on showing me how shit they are

And yeah yeah I get the spiel of Oh The Story Mode Is Easy You Don't Need To Ev/Iv Train

But at this point it's just the principle of the thing imo

It's the reason I find actual Pokémon games so grating now

Because my problem-solving brain knows my Pokémon are flawed and incomplete

Don't give me a stat that can be bad if it supposedly doesn't matter anyway.

It only serves to piss me off when I look at it.

[barren sedge]

lmao

Kinda fair

IVs are why I never want to play competitive

Because who wants to grind eggs for millennia

[turbid horizon]

Literally

"here's a game about using your favourite Pokémon, bonding with them and being friends forever. Abandon them as soon as possible if you want good stats."

[rain quarry]

I mostly just stick with the dudes I get, as long as the nature isn't actively bad and they have the ability I want

[cunning parrot]

At least the newer games have ways to modify your existing Pokemon to make them better, that's one of the very few good things I can say about SwSh

[turbid horizon]

True but as far as I'm concerned it's still heavily discouraged because oftentimes getting new Mons through breeding or other means is a far quicker way of doing it

They've somehow made the least fun part about training your Pokémon the least enjoyable bit

[dull crow]

how detailed was that pokemon survey from a bit back

[dull crow]

would ya really want his ace signature move to be a metronome that turns into just the right move pulling wins out that way overand over for years?

[tropic ravine]

red got a clefairy in the original pocket monsters manga and his signature move is being a crackhead so that’s close enough right

[dull crow]

didja know a pokemon pink to come out alongside yellow was considered

[tropic ravine]

yes

[dull crow]

were there free answer questions or just select x, was it super brief or lotta them etc

[fierce breach]

me too, in a playthrough i will only catch the 5 pokemon (and starter) ill use for the whole thing and continue to use them in the postgame

it feels cruel to put my beloved team members out of the team :(

it feels the same in a nuzlocke too because by putting them in the box your saving them from literally dying wheeze

[turbid horizon]

Absolutely I would.

[dull crow]

I feel like the a** pulling would get old after a while especially over 20 years

would certainyl be fun for a bit

[turbid horizon]

Have the entire first season of Metronome's fail, then whip out Spacial Rend when it uses it as a last ditch shot against a legendary in a movie.

[dull crow]

spacial rend wouldnt exist yet

[turbid horizon]

Probably Hyper Beam for the time yeah

Back when it was actually good

[fierce breach]

but itll exist anyway because clefairy broke the laws of space and time

[turbid horizon]

Plus I think it would be important to have Clefairy not act so much like Pikachu does in a fight.

Clefairy would, like the game's, be more tanky, it wouldn't necessarily have a bunch of always flashy moves (aside from, sure, the occasional win with metronome. Maybe it gets moon blast once moon blast comes out.

[dull crow]

nah it'd be super fast doing mad parkour 😛

[turbid horizon]

But after a while of struggling to find it's footing compared to Ash's other Pokémon, it would eventually have some epic moment where we get to see just how much of a beating it can take

Which I think would make for a cooler mascot overall, because it would be less likely to be overused in actual battles without being entirely useless, but also it would contrast a lot of Ash's most popular Mons which are just fast heavy hitters

[cunning parrot]

I think they didn’t choose Clefairy since it’s too “pink and girly” and wouldn’t appeal as well to boys, while Pikachu is more gender neutral

[rain quarry]

That is the exact reason yeah

If the main mascot was a pink blob it would have been seen as a "girl thing" which was especially important for marketing in the 90s and early 2000s

[turbid horizon]

By far, this is the worst thing sexism has ever done

[turbid horizon]

Serene grace flinch spam is pretty bad but I think overall burn has to be the most busted mechanic

There are worse things, sure, but most of them are exclusive to few pokemon

But they made water one of the best defensive types, then gave it an attacking move which has a 30% chance to make any physical attacker essentially irrelevant

[tropic ravine]

laughs in conkeldurr

[turbid horizon]

Guts is great, sure.
Thank god it belongs to slow physical attackers who die in two attacks unless you get the perfect opportunity with them.

I love Conkeldurr but slow physical attackers are so outclassed right now. If they aren't great when burn is a benefit to them, that just means they're completely unusable without guts

[turbid horizon]

See, why does Tyranitar lose guts as it evolves?

Firstly, guts Tyranitar would be an excellent setup if you could get even one dragon dance up

Secondly, it would have given them an excuse to give it a greater special attack than attack, as those who wanted to use it physically would be backed up by guts

[turbid horizon]

Pokémon Masters EX Wally is literally a sickly Victorian boy

Like in the main games he's a sickly boy, for sure, we know this

But Master Sex gives him this big ass fucking skull

The only thing he's missing is a little chimney sweep brush

[turbid horizon]

I'm yet to see a good Emboar rework

Inclement Emerald attempts to make it a tank kinda

By buffing its defense and special defense to 80, and giving it gluttony as an ability option

But this I don't actually think solves any of its problems

Because that's still not enough defense

For context, that leaves it 10 points behind Incin on both defense stats, with 8 more points in attack and 25 more health

But that's disregarding the fact that Incin also gets intimidate to rely on

If people wanna make Emboar tanky, they really need to go all the way and give it a Snorlax-like stat array

[pallid mauve]

eh, I honestly enjoyed Emboar in gen 5. had one set up to cover all but 1 weakness

Flame Wheel/Thunder Punch/Scald/(Fighting move I can't remember)

[turbid horizon]

That's just it though, it's weaknesses are limited even with the addition of fairy

If they had made it a super good tank instead of their desperate attempt to make it a recoil attack user it could be great

Inclement Emerald provides Gluttony which is a decent idea but honestly even if it kept thick fat like it's prevolutions, that could have at least made fire and ice attacks deal next to no damage, making it a great switch-in against those types

[bitter sentinel]

(In sw/sh) what should I shiny hunt next?
1️⃣ Yamask
2️⃣ Galar Yamask
3️⃣ Clobbopuss
4️⃣ Sandygast
5️⃣ Grubbin
6️⃣ Golett
7️⃣ Arrokuda
8️⃣ Cramorant
9️⃣ Falinks
🔟 Darumaka

[bitter sentinel]

Thanks alright gonna go gamer

[left pulsar]

Anyone know any other cool speakeasy pokemon games?

[turbid horizon]

Phantom Force being called Ghost Dive in Japanese is maybe the best fucking thing

It's the first move I've seen which has way more flare in English

But in Japanese it's like "y'know dive? It's dive. For ghosts."

[soft basin]

There are many cool japanese names

like Thunderbolt is called 10 000 volts

then Quick attack is GodSpeed

or light speed idk which one

[cunning parrot]

Lightning speed

But extreme speed is called swiftness, they really got those names backwards

[austere cobalt]

they missed their chance to have a paldean honedge thats a rapier

since paldea is based on spain and rapiers originated from spain

[craggy jasper]

yo i know this is the Infinite Fusions Server but i got this in wilds

[rain quarry]

Very nice. Ye don't worry, this channel lets you post about other fangames

[craggy jasper]

ok

[proper ravine]

you're in the right channel 👍

The chaos of pokémon Wack is begun!

[vapid minnow]

BAHAHAHAHAHA
WITH A FUCKING POKEBALL

[proper ravine]

Kartana's CR is like fully evolved pokémon

45 or some

[proper ravine]

@molten shadow read from this part below

[rapid flicker]

Dude I love inclement emerald

[shrewd furnace]

Which game would this be actually?

[rapid flicker]

Pokemon wilds

[stark wren]

Let's try Pokemon Rejuvenation.

[shrewd furnace]

Here is some epic leaks:
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltiX6SJV_iY&ab_channel=hisokeee||

[tropic ravine]

what the fuck?

[soft basin]

Miku ❤️

[craggy jasper]

Pokemon Wilds

[proper fog]

id like to ask, do you guys know any fangames with missingno in them

i know uh, pokemon firered rocket edition but thats pretty much it

[proper ravine]

out of PP wack

[stable thorn]

I hate Pokémon go community days!!

I caught over 100 dratini and didn’t get one shiny

[vapid minnow]

Rip

[cunning parrot]

I hate Pokémon go~~ community days~~!!

[bitter kite]

I hate Pokémon go community days

[frank remnant]

L

[vital estuary]

hey you think gamefreak will ever do something like a symbiosis pokemon?

like a pokemon thats technically two, but seperating the two would be detrimental to the health of one or both?

nevermind that's a slowbro

[turbid zodiac]

bro forgot the best pokemon from gen 6. Binacle

And technically its evolution too, barbericle.

[vital estuary]

And you forgot best Pokémon of gen 8
phalanx

[fierce breach]

Falinks?

[turbid zodiac]

and you forgot the best gen 4 pokemon, Spiritomb.

sort of

[vital estuary]

honestly that's the closest you can get to an actual fusion in the pokemon games

[fierce breach]

what about kyurem forms?

or necrozma forms

also metang and metagross and mega metagross

[rapid flicker]

yall forgetting magnezone

[turbid zodiac]

and the gen 8 fossil mons

and calarex, aparently.

[wooden bluff]

does anyone know why my randomization for Mystery dungeon seems to fail?

[rapid flicker]

continuing the symbiosis, something about shellder biting uhhh slowpokes to either be slowking and slowpoke???

[turbid horizon]

So, Pokémon Quetzal

What's the catch?

Full Rom of Pokémon emerald, all (basically) Mons available, complete Cheats mode and difficulty options as well as a randomiser mode built in

With multiplayer.

And overworld Mons.

And follower Mons.

What. Is. The catch.

[proud halo]

sounds sick

[raw mason]

isnt that against rule 3

[turbid horizon]

Nope

[proud halo]

nah its not

[shut osprey]

I've finished this game, does anyone have any good ROM hack recommendations?

[vernal berry]

Anyone have any good fan made games like IF that runs on joiplay?

[pale gust]

I got pokemon reborn running on Joiplay. Have not played it much tho but seems to work fine

[proper ravine]

Insurgence, i think

[turbid horizon]

The cap for heavy slam should be either removed or increased far beyond what current Pokémon weights are capable of achieving

But moves like Bulk Up and Stockpile should be made to increase a Pokémon's weight

I figure if it's slow Pokémon that'll benefit from such a change then it won't be too op, more a necessary buff for slow setup Mons

[elfin wyvern]

I mean automize reduces weight

And there's both heavy metal and light metal abilities

[tepid ravine]

Hey everyone! I had a question about pokemon fusions games:

https://youtube.com/shorts/f0A_aAysXuM?feature=share

That's pokemon fusing... but it doesn't look like the one I'm playing. Mines got Gen 1/2 but that's Emerald.... what am I missing?

[turbid horizon]

There are several games of that type but they aren't infinite fusion

As far as I'm aware they actually lack a fusion mechanic.

In those games, the fused Pokémon are pre-done and simply replace normal mons

IF actually lets you fuse any Pokémon

[tepid ravine]

And that's what so cool about it, thanks for clearing that up for me! I was so confused lol

[turbid horizon]

See I kinda miss perma-weathers which I know makes me sound nuts but hear me out because like

If weather effects alone were less busted and oppressive

And instead relied more on the setting up for abilities like swift swim or sand force (sand force, btw, should boost all moves regardless of type)

Then I think I'd prefer it

Because now the weather system encourages a lot of swapping assuming you aren't using weather rocks to extend and constant swapping is the worst way of playing Pokémon imo

[umbral egret]

Pokemon competitive where 20 turns is each trainer swapping over and over again

[tropic ravine]

you see, they removed permanent weather to stop the weather wars, which was weather setters constantly switching to override the other team’s weather

[tepid ravine]

Pretty awesome name for it though; Weather wars...

[umbral egret]

one moment the shining sun next torrential rain, and then comes the sand

[turbid horizon]

Archeops should get gale wings

Frankly giving it something so that it doesn't have to have defeatist would be a major buff as is

But gale wings could set it up with something actually decent

[umbral egret]

its one of the mons like Slaking where it is more powerful than normal pokemon so they have to nerf it somehow

[turbid horizon]

You're not wrong comparatively but frankly that's been a stupid reason since it was released. Archeops is being punished for having a base stat total that other fossil Mon should have.

[fierce breach]

they should lower archeops stats and give it normal abilities

idk why it has stats higher than the other fossils

[turbid horizon]

It's stats are higher because it has defeatist it's self fulfilling prophecy

Frankly I don't think many Pokémon should be below 500 base stat when fully evolved unless they have a gimmick

[fierce breach]

Rip heaps of johto pokemon that have horrendous stats

[turbid horizon]

You're telling me I'm a Unova guy, we get the best designs overall and 80% are slow, average defense decently high attackers

[toxic dagger]

johto gal here suffering seeing all the gen 1-2 pokemon I like having sub500. I just want them to be usable damnit!

[turbid horizon]

Presenting Golurk, a Pokémon which is consistently depicted as op but only had sweep potential through rock polish meaning you're almost guaranteed to take a hit before moving and then you'll die on the next turn

[toxic dagger]

so I fused it with snorlax for a normal/ghost typing

[fierce breach]

Ledians stat spread is

[turbid horizon]

Inclement Emerald gave Ledian aerilate and I honestly like it better than the Mega Flygon they have in that game, it feels stronger

They also have it buffs to it's speed and attack stat so comet punch is just an insanely good flying type bullet seed

And when in doubt double edge

[fierce breach]

Oooh

[turbid horizon]

Plus close combat for cover

[fierce breach]

That’s great

[turbid horizon]

Genuinely a really fun Pokémon to use

I was gonna take Mega Butterfree over it but aerilate won me over

I know they were a bane of many people's existence but I love the normal-changing abilities

[fierce breach]

Same

They let you use moves you normally wouldn’t use

[rapid flicker]

was johto and alola the only regions to not have fossils?

[steady citrus]

yes

[rapid flicker]

dude i wished alola had one that's based on volcanoes

like a volcanic dinosaur

rock/fire

[umbral egret]

plesiosaur could have been such a good one too

[rapid flicker]

oh yeah

and as for johto

since kanto was more water based than land based

and johto imo is the complete opposite

we should have a rock ground fossil that's based on salt

mostly

idk if that made sense

[turbid horizon]

Swap Unnerve on T-tar for Guts (which it's earlier forms have already and would make it a scarier dragon dance sweeper)

Unnerve is a defensive ability but sand stream is already a far superior defensive ability for it

So give it something offensive

[turbid horizon]

Give Pangoro an evolution, Pangorabun

With Pancham --> Pangoro's whole thing being that it gets corrupted by bad influence, maybe Pangorabun has an ability like Pixilate but for dark types

[glacial elm]

Maybe Pancham could have an alternate evolution where it doesn't get corrupted by bad influence, and it's a fairy/fighting or a normal/fighting instead of dark/fighting like Pangoro is

Idk what it'd be called but

[turbid horizon]

Dragon/Fighting. Doesn't completely screw over its other form, plus Kung Fu Panda reference

[glacial elm]

Skidoosh

[stray valve]

fake out doesn't have a 100% flinch chance?

[turbid horizon]

It does.

[stray valve]

ive used tyrogues fake-out on a weedle and it could still attack on turn 1 against a wild encounter

[proper ravine]

maybe weedle abi?

[stray valve]

ooh maybe shield dust?

[rain quarry]

If this is IF-related you should move to #playthrough-talk instead

[wet geyser]

any one here played realida system?

[rapid flicker]

You can talk about rom hacks and other pokemon fan games here too right?

[fierce breach]

yes

[rapid flicker]

alright

[proper ravine]

die trash

||wack||

[atomic mist]

I think I overdid it.

[shrewd furnace]

Underdid it.

[pine ingot]

Meanwhile Frieza:

Frieza: 1… 2… 3… 4… that’s 4 more monkeys than I care for

[oblique citrus]

might be able to fuse it with something with a high attack and low sp.def to even things out and throw in iron fist punches

[fierce breach]

yea but i wasnt talking about IF so it wont be able to do that

[oblique citrus]

oh whoops I clicked the wrong channel

[fierce breach]

oop

[cunning parrot]

Frieza isn’t even there

[pine ingot]

Exactly, frieza doesn’t want to be near the Saiyans… or he’s in hell at the moment lol

[cunning parrot]

Don’t talk about spoilers

[pale plume]

Oh my bad

[cunning parrot]

So delete it

[hardy orbit]

ayo does anyone have the most recent possible version of blaze black or volt white? one of my dc friends wants me to play it but he can't link it

nvm maybe idk

[oblique citrus]

this? https://twitter.com/Drayano60/status/1507817345103929344?s=20

Dray (@Drayano60)

Blaze Black 2 Redux & Volt White 2 Redux by @AphexCubed and myself - a modernized remake of the old Blaze Black 2 and Volt White 2 mods for B2W2 - are available now!

You can download the documentation and patch files for the mod from my Google Drive here:
https://t.co/ZabZhqhPxE

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[proper ravine]

looks like you're right about drama of pokemon ||wack|| server. I got muted/disallowed to post in spesific channel because mispronouns one of the admin without warning lmao 🤣.
Stupidly, she said it's in the server's rule channel, but the rule channel is empty

[oblique citrus]

which legal nintendo switch model would you recommend for playing legends arceus on my computer?

[turbid horizon]

Found the catch with Pokémon Quetzal

Abysmal documentation

There are new eeveelutions for all the previously missing types and I can't even find their evolution methods

[fierce breach]

Time to do a new playthrough on BDSP (shining pearl specifically), just for fun

[fierce breach]

I am in pain without a speed up button i am so spoiled from IF

[long mango]

this is probably a dumb question but: if you give multiple pokemon in your team exp shares, does that mean each pokemon gets less exp? and does an exp share take experience away from the pokemon fighting, or is it just additional exp?

[turbid horizon]

Redesign ideas for the Hisuian starters:

Hisuian Decidueye (aka the worst one): make it steel/grass, a super solid defensive typing, making up for its abysmal speed. Instead of another fighting chicken gimmick, give us a crossbow-based Decidueye instead.

Hisuian Typhlosion (the meh one): honestly don't have much. It's not the easiest Pokémon to give a new form. My best idea would be fire/ground, as well as having it be based specifically on a honey badger with a very violent disposition and a connection to Ursaluna lore wise as the two would compete for honey.

Hisuian Samurott (Shadow the sea lion): Water/Rock. It would be hammer-based as opposed to sword based, eventually progressing to a two-handed rock Warhammer.

[pine ingot]

I actually like the Hisuian starters

[pine ingot]

I think it’s like if you do switch training?

[fierce breach]

Progress: I’m at oregburgh city now, my team is still just a piplup because I haven’t found any new team members I want

[turbid horizon]

I'm playing gen 7 monotype random battle factory (it's a mouthful but it's fun usually) and pray fucking tell why I've gotten electric in my last 7 battles with three of them being electric teams on both sides?

[turbid horizon]

Proposed change for paralysis: have it guaranteed which turn it's gonna prevent movement

Like every third turn or some shit

This would decrease rng bullshit on both sides

[turbid horizon]

Idea: Mystery Dungeon game with relationship elements like Stardew Valley/Animal Crossing, this would, like normal friendship mechanics, boost moves like return and maybe influence evos which would normally be friendship evolutions. As well as this, it would allow certain Pokémon to mega evolve once they have accumulated enough of a bond with the team.

[cunning parrot]

Or just accept that rng is part of rpgs

[proper ravine]

welp RNG is bullshit

[turbid horizon]

No

[cunning parrot]

You might want to stop playing these games then

[turbid horizon]

Make me

[cunning parrot]

Nah

[jaunty depot]

Can anyone help me figure out what the encounter rate for Onix is in Mt Moon?

[proper ravine]

in what game?

[umbral egret]

if you mean this game then you want #playthrough-talk encounters are pinned

[vernal grove]

What are some other good pokemon fanmade games?

is there anything that has one where you play as a certain role and not just a trainer?

[proper ravine]

Xenoverse?

[umbral egret]

There is the gym leader one

[vernal grove]

Oh? Elaborate some more

[dull pumice]

Who else remembers in diamond and pearl using the bike glitch to get to the void and be able to get the legendaries darkarai, shaimen and one other

[proper ravine]

🦗

[tropic ravine]

milo really just ratio’d you

[crimson locust]

So...
I just finished the Koga fight.

I'mma be real with you, without spoiling anything?...
That shit was tough as nails. And I'm on Normal difficulty. I would scarce want to see what he has going on in Hard mode.

[spark bramble]

Anyone play pokemon white version 2
Idk why but my pokemon can't get exp

[forest girder]

I know that EXP leveling is based on the level comparison between pokemon, so your pokemon just might be too strong to get a lot of EXP

[spark bramble]

Noo

[spark bramble]

I just Started the game

[forest girder]

what level are they?

[spark bramble]

Tepig lvl 5

[forest girder]

what

[spark bramble]

And the enemy lvl 4

[forest girder]

wait do you mean like JUST started

[spark bramble]

Like

[forest girder]

well it'll take time to get a lot of experience

[spark bramble]

No

Literally i got zero experience

[forest girder]

plus early route experience yields aren't great

no you didn't

can I see?

[spark bramble]

Wait

Btw i play it using emulator

[forest girder]

did you change any settings before opening it?

[spark bramble]

Nope

[forest girder]

ok well I'm not an emulator person so

hmm

yeah this is territory I've never treaded in so someone else should probably help

sorry

[spark bramble]

Ok

It's okay

[indigo flame]

Your game is unpatched

Drm stuff

You need to get a patched rom if you want xp

Or perhaps there's an AR code or something

[idle parrot]

Hello is Pokemon fusion 3 is as good as Pokemon infinite fusion?

[vernal grove]

I might have overleved so much.

[umbral egret]

I think the Pokémon fusion series has their moms already fused, infinite fusions has 420 mins you can pick and choose to fuse

Mons*

[umbral egret]

To prevent illegal distribution the game rom disables exp

You can fix this with an Action Replay code or just find a patched -exp fix online

You can also find one that enables trade evolutions so you can get mons that requires trading to evolve

[hexed panther]

Hey guys

I got Pokémon colosseum

[proper ravine]

[turbid horizon]

Everyone likes to think they'd be a cool Pokémon trainer if Pokémon were real

I'd be a grunt I just fucking know it.

90% of the teams have hot women as admins

[turbid horizon]

Do you think Pokémon exterminators have to call in like a poison unit to deal with Wynaut infestations?

Because I tell ya, if I hit one of those things with a shover and didn't kill it in one shot? It would atomise me.

[rain quarry]

They get pokemon who know Knock Off

To come in and slap them to death

[turbid horizon]

We see a lot of unevolved groups of Pokémon, I would argue moreso than fully evolved ones. Do you think they ever find like eviolites?

Because surely amongst wild unevolved Mons, getting an eviolite would make you automatic leader. The only thing that would rank above you would be like an evolved form

[fierce breach]

Or if ones get the special signature item things

Like clamperl with the deep sea tooth or scale

[turbid horizon]

Yeah

All Leader Pikachu's gotta have light balls

[indigo flame]

Good deal or nah?

[turbid horizon]

I really wish they'd gone with anything other than CP.

I really do.

[pine ingot]

i think wiglett needs more representation in fangames

[proper ravine]

wait what? evolving Pokemon decrease CP? 🤔 I'm not touchin my poGo since covid

[umbral egret]

Its because it resets them to level 1, though the higher they are before you evolve the higher their ceiling is

[worthy wedge]

Lmao I thought it only happened with the cocoon evos

[rain quarry]

Very nice

[jaunty kernel]

Trying to get all 3 before sv

[minor dagger]

Can you download infinite fusion or other hacks on iPhone?

[blazing fractal]

mobile

agh

[turbid horizon]

Other games? Yes, on Joiplay.

Infinite Fusion?

You'll be permanently altered.

[turbid horizon]

I'm just saying compound eyes quiver dance sleep powder Butterfree and Vivillon is busted

Hell if you get like a tailwind setter before sending them in I guarantee 90% of players will not have prepared to counter you. They'd have to be some nerd using Lycanrock or something. The most likely counter you'd meet is like Prankster Taunt or something.

[placid obsidian]

.....well then

guess who's hacked

[crisp bramble]

not even hacked

[placid obsidian]

Ah, just a pathetic attempt then

in any case <@&306953740651462656>

[turbid horizon]

They were.

[outer obsidian]

Balanced gameplay

[pine ingot]

Good soulsilver hack, quick!

[turbid horizon]

Drayano pretty much owns the DS hacking business

Which is a shame but the stuff he does is good

[pine ingot]

Ok

So

Can I get a suggestion for a good ss hack then?

[turbid horizon]

Just go on twitter search for Drayano, of even just slap it in Google

I forgot what his soul silver hack is

Storm Silver.

I think.

[pine ingot]

I tried but it gives me this weird .patch file that idk how to patch

The standard is Ips or a few others so that’s just weird

[turbid horizon]

Well shit I don't usually have to patch ds files

I assume Unipatcher will work

You just need to download a normal Soul Silver ROM as well

And then you can use Unipatcher to like stitch em together

You can find a guide somewhere most likely

[pine ingot]

I’m on mobile device 😭

[turbid horizon]

Unipatcher is on mobile!!

[pine ingot]

Really?!!

[turbid horizon]

Yup!

[pine ingot]

Yesss

[turbid horizon]

There are alternatives if your device specifically doesn't have it but I haven't used them, I'd just recommend checking your app store for it

Really the hardest part is finding a ROM of the base game

Because there are multiple versions and sometimes you need a specific one or it won't work

But as I said, Drayano is really popular, so you should be able to just Google what soul silver ROM you need for patching

Can't link you one because it's a big ol' crime

[pine ingot]

It says unknown patch format

.patch file isn’t really a common patch format..

[turbid horizon]

You need to extract the files to get specific ones

[pine ingot]

Idk how to extract a .patch

[turbid horizon]

I don't know what it is for DS games but for example, when patching GBA games, there's a file inside the game files labelled .gba

[turbid horizon]

I think you should just be able to do it from Files

[pine ingot]

The patch was extracted out of a zip so I can’t extract it again

[turbid horizon]

Hmmmmm

[pine ingot]

It seems to just be a different type of file in general

[turbid horizon]

Gimme a minute

[pine ingot]

Eh I’ll try soothing silver

Now it says xdelta3 internal error when I try to do that one

[turbid horizon]

Okay I think I've got it

The Storm Silver one should be .patch, the file you're looking for for the base Soul Silver should be .nds

[pine ingot]

That’s right

That’s what I’m doing

[turbid horizon]

Okay so

When you're doing your output file

Is it also labelled .nds?

[pine ingot]

Yes

[turbid horizon]

.patch at the top and .nds in the middle??

[pine ingot]

Yep

[turbid horizon]

You sure you have the recommended soul silver ROM for it? These things are crazy specific about that bs

[pine ingot]

Idk

I just have the base one

[turbid horizon]

That could be your issue, gimme another minute

[pine ingot]

K thanks

[turbid horizon]

All it says is an American version of HG/SS

[pine ingot]

Oh lol

[proper ravine]

Pokémon Fusion : Wackverse

[alpine flame]

Kinda just wanna share this fellow lol i just started a playthrough of a randomized Alpha Sapphire, my first time attempting to randomize and play a 3ds pokemon game 😊 and now that there's a pretty good emulator for 3ds now on android i can actually do this now 😁

He's gonna be any fire type's worst nightmare 😅

[bitter sentinel]

What emulator

Is it citra?

[turbid horizon]

Yeah how'd you get it working

I tried at one point but didn't manage

I'd love to play 3DS ROMs on my phone

[bitter sentinel]

Same here

[obtuse reef]

Yoooo any games where I can start as a team rocket member?

[pine ingot]

Pokemon rocket edition

it's the best one

[austere chasm]

whats u guys favorite fan game im tryna play sum new

[sullen path]

Pokemon rocket edition,
Pokemon insurgence

[cunning parrot]

That's pretty funny

[upbeat widget]

can someone help me evolve my kadabra and machoke in lets go pikachu plz

[alpine notch]

sure ill help out

let me get home first then I can help ya out

[raven mango]

theres this one called infinite fusion idk if youve heard of it. kinda niche tbh

[tidal bone]

I've only played a couple but pokemon uranium is really good imo

[alpine flame]

Sorry for the very late response lol it is Citra, there's an app for it in the playstore. I downloaded the 3ds file, imput it into the randomizer in my laptop, exported as a CXI (I think) and luckily Citra was able to just stright run the CXI file

[bitter sentinel]

Cool

[alpine flame]

Its very fun 😊 i love playing wild randomized games (including moves, abilities, tms etc.) Ive played most gba and ds games randomized, and i think a couple nights ago once i realized there was good 3ds emulator for the phone i set about randomizing my first one 😁 now i just have to wait for a good switch emulator 😅

[pearl jewel]

help

pokemon

[rain quarry]

Pokemon indeed. What's the issue

[blazing fractal]

pokemon

[snow hinge]

scarlagne

[proper ravine]

how evo yanmega

wrong channel damn it

[proper ravine]

🦗

[tawny elbow]

Pokémon Wack lmao

The story is… well, pretty bad; but the team building opportunities are the only thing similar to this game, and the new types/moves/Pokémon make it replayable af

[pine ingot]

I mean people talk trash about wack but its a good game imo

Especially for people that dont care much about dialogue/story

[turbid horizon]

Almost as though it's made by a bunch of sweaty nerds with nothing better to do because they're intolerable douchebags.

[turbid horizon]

This Gym Of Mine is unpolished but a fun one to pick up and Rad Red + Pokémon Quetzal are my go-to for full easily customisable playthroughs.

[austere chasm]

rad red is like my go to imma try quetzal

[austere chasm]

sounds terrible

[turbid horizon]

It has a Cheats mode and I think also a randomiser but don't quote me on the latter

If you want to just play with your dream team I'd recommend cheats mode

Alternatively you could do Inclement Emerald, which makes a bunch of changes like Rad Red to make more Pokémon useable

[austere chasm]

bet bet

[cinder rapids]

Did anyone else play pokemon brick bronze on roblox while it was still up?

[proud trout]

aside from the graphics is legend arceus good

my opinion is that there is too muvh farmin beetween the grades

[turbid horizon]

It's great, it's only late stars which require a lot of grinding and even that's pretty formulaic

You need 10 research on every Pokémon anyway and that takes you most of the way

[proud trout]

bruh

imma suffer

[turbid horizon]

To be fair there are only a few that are genuinely difficult

Munchlax and Hapini are bad but the rest are pretty basic

[proud trout]

not diifivult

longgg