tech-support

[buoyant plinth]

delete the save?

[hot flicker]

https://youtu.be/Qfx-0whB9nA watch that

[hot flicker]

Yes. Delete it

[elfin schooner]

The monks in my sprout tower just kick me out and won't let me battle them?

[full sonnet]

I am also on a mac, just to clarify

[hot flicker]

They are not meant to be battled. It's like a mini game. Have to avoid them

[elfin schooner]

oh lol okay

[hot flicker]

Well if you got the game to work you should be able to follow that guide and replicate it for your platform. It's just putting images into a folder

[buoyant plinth]

where do i find saves and how do i know which is the corrupted one?

[white lion]

im having a problem i tried to fuse a pokemon into their new sprite that i change but for some odd reason the game is not picking it up 😕 is not putting the proper fusion design

[elder pumice]

So I put the custom battlers into the graphics folder to get my custom sprite of bagon and axew. alas, it didn't work. I think it was even before the sprite pack. so this has to be a game issue, but i've got no idea what the problem is. I need help.

[elfin schooner]

You might need to change the file/picture name to it's pokedex entry, manually put it in the correct indexed file and then repeat the custom battlers/graphics folder process. Restart your game and see if that works potentially.

dex bagon

[turbid terrace]

Bagon's IF Pokédex number is 395!

[elfin schooner]

dex axew

[turbid terrace]

Axew's IF Pokédex number is 414!

[white lion]

that my problem too and i made sure everything was right

[elfin schooner]

hmmm... idk. I've never tried changing a regular pokemon's sprite only fusions.

[stoic sigil]

Did you get it to work?

[white lion]

i fix my problem by restarting my laptop to like refresh everything cause i noticed my game was running a bit lagging of me changing sprites

[solemn hinge]

a pokemon's sprite isn't loading

(rebooted the game, fixed the problem. It was real spooky, cuz i was in lavender town when it the fusion happened, and when i fused the music cut out)

[elder pumice]

yeah the dex numbers are correct, but it still doesn't work. I think its a problem with my games

This is for like all pokemon, I was just giving and example for my axew and bagon fusion

[elfin schooner]

If you're playing the game on the current version then it's definitely something you're doing wrong because otherwise it wouldn't work for anyone else. It could be an issue with the game, but it seems unlikely if it's not a common issue for other people.

Most of the time when you upload a custom sprite the game will tell you when you boot it up that it has imported/detected 1 or however many new sprites.

[elder pumice]

I'll just delete my custombattlers as a whole then upload the new one

[elfin schooner]

That could possibly fix it, but I'm not an expert

[stoic sigil]

IF you do this, get the new one from the game zip first

Can I see your CustomBattlers folder if you haven't deleted it already?

[elder pumice]

Well here it is in graphics

The folder itself is fine as well

[stoic sigil]

I meant its contents

Open the folder and send a screenshot

[pallid shadow]

i cant download the mega download link, is there a solution to this?

[stoic sigil]

You need just one of the zips named -full

[tacit linden]

Is this the right place to ask the functions of the bot commands? Is there a help or manual?

[prisma wadi]

i started a new game yesterday and suddenly there were an error with an shiny Trapinch, i don´t have a screenshot. can someone help?

[stoic sigil]

Pinned messages in #ask-a-bot

[tacit linden]

Oh ok thank you!

[stoic sigil]

Make sure you have the latest version (5.1.2.4, last number shows up only in the game zip you downloaded)

[prisma wadi]

so i need to download the newest version?

[elder pumice]

was taking a shower but here ya go

[stoic sigil]

Yes, that one has the shiny bug you're facing. You only need the patch version

[stoic sigil]

And it doesn't import when you start the game?

[elder pumice]

I dont think so

[stoic sigil]

Oh wait I see the issue

[elder pumice]

for eg the axew and bagon custom doesnt appear

Oh?

[stoic sigil]

I don't know why this happens to some of you but you're missing the crucial "indexed" folder. Open up the original game zip you downloaded, go to Graphics\CustomBattlers\ and extract the folder called indexed from there and move it to your CustomBattlers folder

End result should look something like this

[elder pumice]

shit uh prolly deleted it but ill look for it

ill go to my trash folder I guess

[stoic sigil]

If it's in the bin, make sure to restore it first before trying to extract

[prisma wadi]

patching needs forever

[elder pumice]

So uh

The indexed folder isn't in there

[stoic sigil]

It's faster than getting the whole thing fresh. Make sure to follow the instructions in the _DOWNLOAD INSTRUCTIONS.txt file

[elder pumice]

doesn't exist

[stoic sigil]

Time to re-download then

[prisma wadi]

ay

[elder pumice]

I can save my file right

[stoic sigil]

I guess mega had a hiccup or there was a faulty zip in there at some point so some of you ended up with an incomplete zip

[elder pumice]

or backup or whatever

[stoic sigil]

If you mean saves, they're in a separate location altogether, so they're not going anywhere, but yes, you should keep backups anyway

But you'll likely only need the indexed folder from the new download still, so just download the full zip, then extract just indexed like previously instructed

If you run into further issues after that, then consider re-extracting the whole thing

You'll have the zip downloaded already anyway

[elder pumice]

Ah whatever i'll just re-download the whole stuff

I dont have much gameplay anyway

[stoic sigil]

And you'll keep your saves anyway

[stoic sigil]

If you start fresh, delete the game files before extracting the new ones. And use 7-zip or WinRAR for the extraction, the Windows default one only breaks stuff

And takes 5x as long

[elder pumice]

already deleted

damn my pc is fast

but i'll use 7-zip

Hmm should I pick light download or regular?

Maybe just regular

[stoic sigil]

I recommend regular, light has some bugs rn

[elder pumice]

Well anyway mate thanks for the help

So just to be sure, do I directly put the the customs into the indexed folder or just next to it?

[shy bough]

Having a problem where some sprites are straight up blank. I got a jigglypuff/togepi fusion from wonder trade and there is no sprite just an empty space

[stoic sigil]

Directly in, the game only handles .png files when importing, not subfolders or anything else

You had done it correctly in your earlier screenshots, it was just missing the indexed folder so it couldn't use them

[elder pumice]

I'm probably repeating myself rn (sorry), so its fine if i just put the sprite pack folder into the index folder, or do I have to take each sprite image out, etc?

[stoic sigil]

Download this and put it into Graphics\CustomBattlers\, then start the game and let it replace sprites:
#ask-a-bot message

[shy bough]

Aight

[stoic sigil]

Like I said, the image files need to be directly in CustomBattlers. So if you have the full 1-87 sprite pack, the pack itself has a folder called CustomBattlers as well, so you can copy that and and paste into the game's Graphics folder (so that it mixes in with its CustomBattlers folder), like in the instructions

This way of copying doesn't delete anything from the target folder, so indexed is safe and this is not the reason it was missing from you before

[stoic sigil]

And no, you don't put anything into indexed yourself, that's what the game does when it imports

[elder pumice]

Was just gonna ask that ty

Uh problem the paste option doesn't...work

[stoic sigil]

How so?

[elder pumice]

I'm probably doing something wrong

My brains just fails when it comes to PC stuff

[stoic sigil]

You need to copy the files again, it has lost the current clipboard at some point

[elder pumice]

I did

Maybe I should drag it in?

That usually works

[stoic sigil]

Yeah try that

[elder pumice]

Its not working

tf

[stoic sigil]

But just based on that screenshot, again, you'll want to end up with the image files in the CustomBattlers folder, like in this screenshot you sent:
#tech-support message

[elder pumice]

Yeah it just can't copy

Maybe I need to play the game first
but that shouldn't do anything

[stoic sigil]

I see by the tree to the right that you haven't extracted the game yet?

You can't copy into a zip and you shouldn't try running the game from within it either

[elder pumice]

Ah.

Right. I extracted it before

[stoic sigil]

Extract infinitefusion_5.1.2.4-full.zip into its own folder first

[elder pumice]

Wow Im uh

dumb

Good lord 😂

[marble summit]

hi guys

do i import all of the folders from here

these ones or just the custombattlers

im confused by the instructions sorry

[stoic sigil]

CustomBattlers is the one you want to mix in with the game's CustomBattlers folder. The others are extras

[marble summit]

okay thank youuu

[rapid wave]

yo for some reason whenever i finish a battle or enter a building the game goes black for like 15 seconds

and then resumes

how do i fix this?

[stoic sigil]

It's a hardware issue. Try the alt launcher, it takes a while to start but it preloads everything (it's not included with the light version cause it needs the sprites)

[rapid wave]

aight, thanks

tried the alt launcher, issue fixed. thanks a lot

[elder pumice]

@stoic sigil So is this right

[stoic sigil]

Like I said, it does not read subfolders, the end result needs to look like your screenshot here (with the addition of the indexed folder now):
#tech-support message

[elder pumice]

how do I just quickly take them out of the folder then

[stoic sigil]

Go to the folder and press Ctrl + A to select all

Then you can cut and paste

[noble granite]

how do i fix this

[stoic sigil]

It's not finding an audio output device

[noble granite]

oh ok

thx

[small turtle]

keeps crashing on start up

[toxic portal]

Stealth section

[toxic portal]

Hmmm...that's odd. Have you been fucking with the game files?

[small turtle]

its a fresh download

havent played a single second yet

[toxic portal]

....odd

Could you do me a favor and pull up the script?

[small turtle]

downloaded, extracted and pressed play

where to find those?

[toxic portal]

Granted if it's a fresh one then this might be a dev issue

[small turtle]

ah sure

[toxic portal]

But Data -> Scripts

Search for the filename mentioned in the error and scroll down to line 1144

[small turtle]

so the 001_pokemon_rb?

[toxic portal]

Ye

[small turtle]

found the file

this should be line 1144

[stoic sigil]

This error is an elusive one and is usually caused by some missing scripts. I recommend trying the alt launcher first. If nothing changes, try re-extracting the Data folder

Use a proper program like 7-Zip or WinRAR for the extraction to avoid most errors

[small turtle]

yea im using winrar

[stoic sigil]

And no, it's not a bug in the code cause it doesn't happen with every instance of the game

[small turtle]

just downloaded it again

extracting it with winrar to a folder

Used the alternate launcher rn

Black screen but i think that was normal

[turbid terrace]

Hey @small turtle! Are you having trouble starting the game? If you are launching v5, and your screen is stuck on black at startup, don't worry, it's normal. Leave the game running for a few minutes and it will work eventually.

Do not click on the window during this, otherwise you'll get the error below and the game will close.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308392115338084360/994274889055875142/Capture.PNG

[stoic sigil]

Be patient when it loads, it preloads everything

[small turtle]

Cause it had to load pr smth

Seems to be going well for now

ah

[stoic sigil]

Which version of the download did you get?

[small turtle]

\

could also try the light version

but then id need to be connected to the internet right?

[stoic sigil]

Don't bother, you have the most functional version there

Let's try something

Go to the game folder, right click Data and select Properties, then let it count up the number of included files and folders and tell me what it says

Also, where is the game folder located in your computer?

[small turtle]

i just put down a folder on my dekstop

[stoic sigil]

Thank you, numbers match

[small turtle]

yea checked with the pathfile aswel

same numbers

[stoic sigil]

Check the Savefile location if it's empty or invalid (which is fine since you haven't played yet)

If there are any files there, try moving them out

[small turtle]

a whole bunch of files

[stoic sigil]

Aha

[small turtle]

just delete m?

[stoic sigil]

Try moving them all to some other place for safekeeping, no need to delete permanently

[small turtle]

gotcha

now try again i asume?

[stoic sigil]

yeah

[small turtle]

alternate or the normal one?

[stoic sigil]

Try normal first

[small turtle]

ah great

it works

thanks a bunch

[stoic sigil]

Awesome! Gotta remember this potential solution in the future

[small turtle]

yea

for sure

thanks again 🙂

i played an older version at first but wasnt able to convert it

if that was even possible

so got rid of it al0l

[stoic sigil]

Yeah pre-5.0 can't be patched without a fresh install and even the saves may not be compatible

[small turtle]

ah alright

well was only at the 4th gym anyways

[stoic sigil]

And you still have the savefiles you moved out if you wanted to go back with an old version

[devout drum]

I don't know if anybody cares but after 3 days of hard research I've figured out how to switch the BST values of any given poke fusion pair. No longer will the cool sprite be the lesser mon!

[stoic sigil]

With all due respect to your research, I'm sure you went through a lot, but wouldn't it be easier to just swap the sprites? Of course, changing BST values would keep the head/body ordering in line with the rest

[devout drum]

Swapping BST's over sprite swapping means you can choose with typing you prefer of the fusion. You still have the option to sprite swap if the typing you prefer has the doody stats, whereas the sprite swap workaround leaves you with the better stats at the cost of (often) giving up the cooler typing

[stoic sigil]

Great point

[devout drum]

All of this because I wanted the Valkyrie looking Aegislash/Gardevoir sprite and typing but without losing the 32 BST points

[stoic sigil]

And you succeeded! You could make a tutorial here or in #gameplay-help for people to find via search

[round portal]

is there a way i can start a new save in a different mode than my 1st save and transfer my 1st save in this mode ?

[stoic sigil]

That would very likely break things, but you can see what the update man in the upstairs of pokecenters can do

[round portal]

oh

forgot about that

[static girder]

@stoic sigil after all i did yesterday all i needed was to add the machoke/jigglypuff sprite... all is running fine now

[devout drum]

I could, but from the screenshot above how Master Frog likes to keep their stuff on lock I'd like to get approval before doing so. I didn't crack into the Fusion.pbm or anything, but it involved already owning RPMaker XP and having several years of experience tinkering with making, followed by a 3 day crash course in essentials, followed by some other stuff that will stay redacted for now. Needless to say the end process is stupidly simple but the quest to get there was an absolute pain

[round portal]

he cant change into modern mode actually

[stoic sigil]

We didn't try that first...? Or was I not the first to help you then, cause I always start missing sprite cases with that

[stoic sigil]

No cause modern mode is a separate file overwrite

[round portal]

ill try doing what i said and then fixing with update guy then

[static girder]

i just remember sending the screenshot and you said to re-install stuff, and then once that was all done i ran into the exact same issue, so i searched the chat history and noticed someone else had a similar thing just with a diferent numbers and i followed the instructions you gave them and it's fixed now. was just a missing sprite

[stoic sigil]

But it only touches two data files, I think you could make a backup of your save and all the files the modern mode "patch" overwrites, then do the overwrite and try loading the save. Then you can restore the backups if things go wrong

[stoic sigil]

Huh, must've been more mixups if I forgot the simplest step... Well glad it works now

Happens when you help several people with similar issues daily

[static girder]

yeah when you help so many people with similar but also slightly varied problems theres bound to be some simple steps that are forgotten

[round portal]

i dont even know how i could transfer my classic savefile into modern mode

[rigid abyss]

Can help me :/

[stoic sigil]

There's no transfer needed

[stoic sigil]

Oi bot, how's mobile

[turbid terrace]

Hey @stoic sigil! The game isn't made to be played on mobile! You can try to use Joiplay to run it, but the game will likely be very slow, glitchy, or downright unplayable.

You can try following this guide: https://youtu.be/jADyChlJbF0

Nothing can likely be done about issues experienced on mobile, unfortunately. You can ask for help in the video's comments section if you'd like.

No dedicated mobile version of IF will be developed in the future.

[static girder]

I would assume it's not possible because they're two different modes, it would be the same process if someone wanted to change a save file to be randomised i guess?

[rigid abyss]

Thanks

[stoic sigil]

No transfer is needed cause the saves are always in the same place. You can have multiple copies of the game and all of them will show the same saves. So you can modify the game and then try to load your save in that

[round portal]

randomised you can just ask update guy to do it for you

[stoic sigil]

So you can apply modern mode and just test your save

But make the backups or you risk losing everything

[round portal]

how do i apply modern mode is what i dont understand

what would be the steps to follow

[stoic sigil]

But seeing how modern mode only affects encounters and trainers data files along with some graphics, I'd imagine it wouldn't cause issues even mid-save

[round portal]

yeah it probably wont work

[stoic sigil]

1. Download modern mode
2. Extract the .rar file
3. The extracted folder contains two folders: Data & Graphics
4. Copy those two into your main game directory, which you'll notice has folders of the same name

[round portal]

is there any way i can cheat in pokemon then ?

[stoic sigil]

I'm saying the opposite, I think it would work

[round portal]

wouldnt it conflict with the classic mode data ?

[rigid abyss]

Everyone have game.exe but me not 😭

[round portal]

also i can choose modern mode at the start of my save

so i dont understand when you say download modern mode

[stoic sigil]

I doubt it cause when you load in you're not in a situation where the game would need to actively read encounters or trainer data

[rigid abyss]

Who can help

[stoic sigil]

It seems my modern mode info is outdated... The one I'm talking about seems to be 4.9 era

[round portal]

ah

[stoic sigil]

Mobile is not supported, if it doesn't work, there's nothing we can do

[turbid terrace]

Hey @stoic sigil! The game isn't made to be played on mobile! You can try to use Joiplay to run it, but the game will likely be very slow, glitchy, or downright unplayable.

You can try following this guide: https://youtu.be/jADyChlJbF0

Nothing can likely be done about issues experienced on mobile, unfortunately. You can ask for help in the video's comments section if you'd like.

No dedicated mobile version of IF will be developed in the future.

[glad sorrel]

im not sure what chat to send this in so ima throw it in here

[stoic sigil]

I think debug has some options for that, if not then maybe cheat engine

[glad sorrel]

my game freezes during dialog with giovanni before the battle against zapmolcuno at Mt.Ember. i dont get any error message until i try to force close it and it states that RGSS stopped working. i have tried speaking to the Bug man in the pokecentre and updated my game to the most recent patch. not sure what to try now, how would i fix this do you think? im on the randomizer mode if that makes a difference

[turbid terrace]

Hey @glad sorrel! Are you having trouble starting the game? If you are launching v5, and your screen is stuck on black at startup, don't worry, it's normal. Leave the game running for a few minutes and it will work eventually.

Do not click on the window during this, otherwise you'll get the error below and the game will close.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308392115338084360/994274889055875142/Capture.PNG

Hey @glad sorrel! Do you have questions about Randomized mode? Find more info about it and its various settings on the Wiki: https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/Randomized_Mode
Note: You need to have an existing save file before the game lets you restart in Randomized mode!

[stoic sigil]

This is really off the top of my head but if I recall, you'll want to "unrandomize" with the update man before that particular giovanni fight and then randomize again after. Not sure though, try searching the discord with the search bar

[glad sorrel]

yeah i tried using the search bar but couldnt really find anyone with fixes, ill try that tho!

it worked, you legend xx

[prisma wadi]

with which rpg maker is the game made?

[stoic sigil]

XP

Built on Pokemon Essentials

Which uses mkxp

[prisma wadi]

thanks

[latent grail]

anyone know how to fix the occassional freezes I get

[stoic sigil]

I'm getting deja vu, but have you tried the alt launcher?

[latent grail]

oh no that has a difference

it isnt anything extremem like a freeze i mean its like a lag spike more like

[stoic sigil]

Certain areas, like Fuchsia City get those spikes

[latent grail]

its been pretty much everywhere for me

at least I think

nugget bridge was really bad

[stoic sigil]

And alt launcher didn't help?

[latent grail]

I didnt try it yet

[stoic sigil]

Give it a shot

[static girder]

unfortunately, the only way you can play the game and where people here can be of assistance is by downloading it on pc, this game really solidifies the term "pc master race"

[turbid terrace]

Hey @static girder! Are yo having trouble downloading the game? You can find the download of the game in #downloads! To run it, simple unzip all of the files into a folder, then click the .exe file. Be mindful that the game takes a few minutes to load, don't touch the black window before it does!

[latent grail]

uh its not loading?

[stoic sigil]

It takes a while, let it cook. It's preloading everything

[static girder]

alt launcher takes a lot longer to load

[latent grail]

ok

[static girder]

@latent grail you may need this if launching from alt launcher for the first time, it sometimes resets bindings

[latent grail]

aight

thanketh thou

[static girder]

you'reth welcometh

[latent grail]

I think its better

[obtuse umbra]

Can someone please help me download the game?

[turbid terrace]

Hey @obtuse umbra! Are yo having trouble downloading the game? You can find the download of the game in #downloads! To run it, simple unzip all of the files into a folder, then click the .exe file. Be mindful that the game takes a few minutes to load, don't touch the black window before it does!

[brave locust]

Hey, so I'm trying to delete a corrupted save file. But I'm on MacOS, and I can't find the folder with the save files, does anyone know where I can find it?

[weary imp]

i need help with this error

Please either @ me or dm me because I wanna continue playing

[tall holly]

This is a corrupted save. Unfortunately nothing you can do to get your progress back. To get the game working you'll need to go to the game's save location and delete the save file

[cinder yarrow]

I keep on getting this message despite having downloaded winkeskin on mac

i would really appreciate some help

[weary imp]

That’s a shame, I was doing a ralts run too lol

[wise patio]

Just pinging again to see if anyone is familiar with a bug where I cannot breed Pokemon. Always says they don't seem to care for each other. Is there a fix? Can breed on other save files.

[kind narwhal]

It the pokemon infinite fusion exe u choose or alternative launcher work fine for me

[inland storm]

Tried booting up 5.1 after moving my save over from 4.9 and kept getting this.

[wise patio]

For the monthly sprite packs, do these always require manual download or are they automatically download with the "Download Missing Sprites" option turned on?

[opal kettle]

can someone help me ive lost my savefile while trying to install the patch

[inland storm]

I'm having the exact same issue. You ever figure out a way to get it working?

[stoic sigil]

Try moving your saves out of the savefile location

Worked with Rickross earlier today:
#tech-support message

It seems that pre-5.0 saves aren't compatible with the newer versions most of the time

[stoic sigil]

The save doesn't appear in game? What version did you patch from?

[stoic sigil]

Download missing sprites only goes to download if it doesn't find a local custom sprite file, i.e. it won't handle updated sprites, only new ones. With autogens, it checks for a custom sprite every time

[stoic sigil]

It's not a bug. The messages are based on the ones from the games and only the one saying that they prefer to play with other pokemon means they can't breed, "they don't seem to like each other very much" is the one you'll see with ditto breeding, for example. It still works, but the chance is lower:
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokémon_breeding#Breeding_rate

[shut minnow]

ok so friend has booted up their game after adding the newest sprite pack and the intro is loading super slow.. once it gets thru the intro it just sits in a black screen

[turbid terrace]

Hey @shut minnow! Are you having trouble starting the game? If you are launching v5, and your screen is stuck on black at startup, don't worry, it's normal. Leave the game running for a few minutes and it will work eventually.

Do not click on the window during this, otherwise you'll get the error below and the game will close.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308392115338084360/994274889055875142/Capture.PNG

[stoic sigil]

Like the bot said, it has a lot to load, especially on first boot, let it cook and don't click the screen

[shut minnow]

weird thing was that it was fine a week ago after they loaded the new sprite pack

just they booted up the game today and nada

[stoic sigil]

Could always try simply restarting the pc to clear some working memory and try again. Hell, I've even seen some people get sprite loading errors when installing sprite packs cause their pc hasn't properly finished the copying process until they restarted their pc

[shut minnow]

ah ok, they restarted their PC

we'll see

[odd rampart]

This is my second time playing through the game, but only now I'm getting this pop up whenever I try to fight any trainer in Mt. Moon, how do I fix this?

[stoic sigil]

Randomizer has some issues in the latest version. I've heard these usually go away by reshuffling with the update man in the upstairs room of pokecenters

[odd rampart]

Ok thank you!

[stoic sigil]

If that doesn't work, get 5.1.1 and play the randomizer save on it (still reshuffle after loading tho)

[sudden crane]

hey im gettnig the error "Error creating OpenAL context" on startup

[stoic sigil]

It's not detecting an audio output device, make sure you have one set

[sudden crane]

ahh let me try

worked thanks

[polar brook]

Switcheroo/trick animations take forever to execute, any thoughts?

[shut minnow]

ok, so their game was saved on their hardrive (which is semi old) and not to their solid state.. they are attempting to transfer the game to the solid state

[stoic sigil]

Good plan, I highly recommend an SSD for this game due to the sheer amount of image files and raw loading

[stoic sigil]

Slow calcs, probably nothing you can do apart from upgrading your machine, moving the game to SSD or maybe trying the alt launcher (I don't think the alt launcher will help in this case)

[polar brook]

already on an alt launcher and SSD

likely just need some one to optimize the calc/code one day but for now it's not a big deal. I rarely ever see or run into trick/switheroo'

[stoic sigil]

tbf, I've seen trick hitch on very powerful machines too

[stoic sigil]

There's only so much optimization one can do with the base this game is built on 😄

[opal kettle]

5.0.32

[stoic sigil]

Could you check the savefile location linked in the game files

[opal kettle]

it shows a save that should off been gone

[opal kettle]

could you join vc real quick to show me?

[stoic sigil]

No, but I can give example screenshots

[opal kettle]

thank you

[stoic sigil]

The highlighted link file in the game folder

[opal kettle]

yea thats still there

[stoic sigil]

Open it

Should contain something like

[stoic sigil]

So that File A is the save you see in-game

But it's not the one you want?

[opal kettle]

its an old one from a couple of days ago that should be deleted

[stoic sigil]

And you should have another one?

[opal kettle]

yea

the one ive been playing for the past 2 days

[stoic sigil]

Okay, this is a bit iffy, but try renaming the file called Game.rxdata to File B.rxdata

[inland storm]

I tried deleting the save before and got the same error.

[stoic sigil]

You can make a copy of it before renaming to be safe

[stoic sigil]

But did you try emptying the savefile folder entirely?

[inland storm]

I'll try that real quick. Just got back to my laptop.

[opal kettle]

ok ive done it

[stoic sigil]

Now try starting the game and see if your lost save is save B now

[opal kettle]

ok ill try its pretty slow so gimme a couple minutes

oh yea whats this btw

[inland storm]

Alright, that worked. Thanks for the help my man.

[opal kettle]

the blue one

[stoic sigil]

It's for people updating from 4.9 and older, where the saves used to be in C:\Users\%USERNAME%\Saved Games\Pokémon Infinite Fusion\. Usually just causes the crash Jason was facing cause the older saves aren't always compatible with the new version

Actually I just realized why it breaks...

[opal kettle]

oh ok fair enough

[stoic sigil]

It doesn't rename the file to use the File X convention but keeps it as Game.rxdata like yours

Whoa

[opal kettle]

you lost me

[raw spoke]

My friend has some errors for running infinite fusion on his mac

[stoic sigil]

Like you just renamed the file to fix your save, it doesn't currently do that like it should

[opal kettle]

but my save isnt fixed yet??

[stoic sigil]

It's not?

[opal kettle]

still loading game

[stoic sigil]

It could be

[opal kettle]

omg your a life saver i could kiss you

MAH

[stoic sigil]

Normally I can't help much with Mac, but that's just a missing sprite

[opal kettle]

@stoic sigil I am forever in your service whenever you need me i will answer the call

[stoic sigil]

Bot isn't listening to me... But download this and move it to Graphics\CustomBattlers\, then start the game

[raw spoke]

Small problem, that file is already there

[stoic sigil]

Let it overwrite

[raw spoke]

K

[solid lichen]

is it normal that the game crashes and gives me 'the RGSS script seems to be stuck. Infinitefusion will now forcequit' everytime I try to fuse a pokemon which sprite doesn't exist yet?

[turbid terrace]

Hey @solid lichen! Are you having trouble starting the game? If you are launching v5, and your screen is stuck on black at startup, don't worry, it's normal. Leave the game running for a few minutes and it will work eventually.

Do not click on the window during this, otherwise you'll get the error below and the game will close.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308392115338084360/994274889055875142/Capture.PNG

[opal kettle]

@stoic sigil for some reason ive lost my custom sprites?

[stoic sigil]

That's... random. What does your Graphics\CustomBattlers\indexed\ look like? Pick a few subfolders and see if they contain sprites

[opal kettle]

all the sprites are there

but not applied in game?

[stoic sigil]

They should be... Maybe try re-applying the sprite pack like you would the first time

[opal kettle]

ok

[ebon schooner]

i just downloaded the 5.1.2.4 full zip and im having trouble with the launching the game. i keep getting a script error '001_Pokemon.rb' NoMethodError Occurred undefined method for [] nil:NilClass

[stoic sigil]

Go to the Savefile link in the game files and empty it of all files

You don't need to delete the things there, just move them elsewhere

[ebon schooner]

did i just need to do the first start up before transferring my old save data?

[fringe hinge]

hey i cant download on mega are there any other links?

[stoic sigil]

Ah, you're transferring. The game doesn't like the name of the savefile after the transfer. If you have just a Game.rxdata in the savefile folder, rename it File A.rxdata

[stoic sigil]

You need just one of the zips named -full

[ebon schooner]

you beautiful beautiful man

ty so much

[fringe hinge]

where is that ?

i have no idea what im doing ngl

[novel spindle]

just launched game for first time and got this pop up?? any idea on what to do?

[wispy token]

Game won’t allow me to reset wild spawns any idea why it crashes every time?

[stoic sigil]

Read the ones marked in blue and download the one with the red arrow

[stoic sigil]

Bot we have a missing game.ini

[turbid terrace]

Hey @stoic sigil! Are you having trouble starting the game? If you're getting the "missing Game.ini" error, your game is not finding its necessary folders for some reason. Here's a list of things that may fix the issue:

1. Make sure that you have extracted the files from the ZIP, and aren't running the game straight from the zipped folder.
2. Make sure the game.exe file is in the folder with everything else. You might've moved it while trying to make a shortcut or something.
3. Rename the folder with the extracted files to a name without numbers or special characters, e.g. "PokemonInfiniteFusion".
4. Move the entire folder somewhere else on your computer. Moving it to the desktop seems to work for most people.
5. Redownload and re-extract the game in full.

[stoic sigil]

You on 5.1.2.4?

[novel spindle]

worked perfectly! thank you very much

[stoic sigil]

All glory to Yanmega

[wispy token]

I should be I just updated yesterday

I am on the light version so is it just trying to load too much

[stoic sigil]

In that case I have two ideas:

1. Try the non-light version as it's much more stable
2. Try 5.1.1

(All you really need to extract from the full version to your game files is the Graphics folder when switching from light to full)

[solid lichen]

does anyone know if it's possible to fuse every pokemon in this game? and if so why does my game freezes when I am trying to fuse pichu with sandshrew?

[ebon schooner]

it keeps trying to make a backup save data when i launch the game after renmaing my savefile

[stoic sigil]

That shouldn't be happening... Make sure File A.rxdata is the only file in the savefile location (keybindings is ok)

[ebon schooner]

are you able to hop in a call so i can share screens? cause I've been deleting it and it always comes back

[stoic sigil]

The savefile probably isn't compatible then. They sometimes are, sometimes aren't. Try emptying the folder and starting the game

You don't need to delete right away, just move them elsewhere

[ebon schooner]

that let it launhc

[stoic sigil]

Actually try making a new save now that it launches, saving it as file A, then closing the game, renaming the old save you moved out to File B.rxdata, moving it back in alongside the new File A and then starting the game

See if it still tries to back up

[floral patio]

hey, i just installed the game and moddern mode patch for the first time. when trying to play it the game crashes each time whenever im about to have my first rival fight in oaks lab. this is the error message i get: Script ´main´ line 14: RuntimeError occured. Traceback is too big. Output in traceback.log

[stoic sigil]

That's the last thing I can come up with to salvage the save apart from having a separate older version of the game to play that save

[stoic sigil]

5.0 and newer versions don't use the separate modern mode patch anymore, it's integrated as an option to select on a new save

[ebon schooner]

yeah that didnt work so I give up for now ty for the help

[stoic sigil]

Yeah it may not be salvageable

[floral patio]

i didn´t get the option when doing a new save before i installed moddern mode and didn´t get the option to select which starter set to use

[stoic sigil]

I think it only asks after you have created one "classic" save already

[floral patio]

ahhh ok

so i should just replace the data and graphics files?

to revert it

[stoic sigil]

Yeah, that would undo it

[shut minnow]

after loading it to the SSD the game launched perfectly

[mellow hare]

anyone able to help me with downloading the game ?

i keep getting a pop up that asks me to pay for a subscription service ?

[floral patio]

thanks it seems to have worked!

[stoic sigil]

You need just one of the zips named -full:
#tech-support message

[fringe hinge]

is there a way to fullscreen the game?

[stoic sigil]

Options menu has one, if I recall

[fringe hinge]

cant find it theres only screen size which is already on large

i dont think there is one then

[remote aurora]

Is there a way to download this game without paying for mega?

[stoic sigil]

#tech-support message

[remote aurora]

Thank you @stoic sigil

[stoic sigil]

I have a Full option

This is from the options menu in the main menu screen

Maybe it's only available there, not when a save is loaded

[remote aurora]

@stoic sigil it just keeps saying transfer limit exceeded, do I have to wait 5hrs then?

[stoic sigil]

As far as I've learned from these cases, yes. We've tried clearing cookies, changing browsers and incognito, but it's based on IP. So I guess you'll have to wait, or try another device, and just get the one zip next time

[remote aurora]

Ok thank you I'll wait no big deal appreciate the help

[floral patio]

Game crashed When i tried to save and now i get this error message When trying to open the game whats the issue?

[stoic sigil]

Sorry but that's a corrupted save (see the first pinned message). Unless you have backup saves, you'll just have to delete the savefile

[floral patio]

Ok, don’t really mind losing the save tbh since i was like 10 min in. Thanks. How do i avoid that though?

[mellow hare]

im trying to get it but its telling me i need to pay

[stoic sigil]

It's pretty random, so it's best to just make manual backups of the save occasionally and keep a few ones. I like to add dates to the names like so (this is a separate backups folder):

[stoic sigil]

#tech-support message

[wintry geyser]

Is the game for mobile?

[turbid terrace]

Hey @wintry geyser! The game isn't made to be played on mobile! You can try to use Joiplay to run it, but the game will likely be very slow, glitchy, or downright unplayable.

You can try following this guide: https://youtu.be/jADyChlJbF0

Nothing can likely be done about issues experienced on mobile, unfortunately. You can ask for help in the video's comments section if you'd like.

No dedicated mobile version of IF will be developed in the future.

[wintry geyser]

Thanks Yanmega!

Where CAN I get Joiplay?

[stoic sigil]

Try google

[wintry geyser]

Ok

[random kraken]

how do i go from version 4.9.2 to the latest? i heard i needed to be in 5.0 or something like that, but i can't find the legacy download on reliccastle

or can i do directly from 4.9.2 to 5.1 whateveritwas

[safe quail]

If ur coming from before 5.0 u would just download the full 5.1 game fresh instead of patching ur files

Also there's a decent chance ur save doesn't transfer

[random kraken]

yeah that's my problem

i don't wanna have to get debug again

or replay the whole game really

[safe quail]

So stay in 4.9.2 ig, it's not a huge deal imo

[random kraken]

but there's tons of cool stuff

i wanna change version

[safe quail]

Then I can slide u a complete 5.1.2 save if urs doesn't transfer

[random kraken]

would that allow me to get debug boots on a new save?

just asking in case

if not i can try with cheatengine again, but i think ITems Ids may be different

[safe quail]

Supposedly the hex code has changed, I haven't memorized it

As far as I can tell the same or similar method should work, but I don't know the specifics

[random kraken]

yeah that would be annoying

[wintry geyser]

How do I download it on Chromebook?

[safe quail]

Step 1) jailbreak ur chromebook

[wintry geyser]

I can't

[safe quail]

There u have it

[wintry geyser]

It's in an organization

[safe quail]

So I'm hearing u probably shouldn't be downloading and playing games on it anyways lol

[wintry geyser]

I'm allowed to

[safe quail]

Regardless the issue is that ChromeOS really really doesn't like .exe files

[wintry geyser]

I know.

[safe quail]

Ok so what were u hoping to accomplish by asking

[wintry geyser]

Idk

[random kraken]

a man can always dream ig

[opal kettle]

@stoic sigil my sprites are still broken

[stoic sigil]

That's really odd. Can you show your CustomBattlers folder?

[opal kettle]

yea one sec what part?

@stoic sigil

[copper plover]

how do i get past this screen?

[stoic sigil]

Ah, the classic and mysterious missing indexed folder case

[stoic sigil]

Go to the game zip and extract Graphics\CustomBattlers\indexed to CustomBattlers in your game files

[vagrant imp]

first time installing. i go to the link to download the game and its telling me to pay or wait 5 hours. is there anyway around this?

[opal kettle]

where??

[copper plover]

how do i get pass this screen

[stoic sigil]

Open the game zip you originally downloaded, navigate to Graphics\CustomBattlers\indexed within it and drag and drop the folder indexed out of it

Your CustomBattlers folder is missing this indexed folder that the game actually uses to import the sprites into:

[floral patio]

When it says save failed what do i need to do to fix it?

It doesn’t give a reason

[stoic sigil]

Press A ('C' on keyboard) 🤷‍♂️

[stoic sigil]

You should only download one of the files named -full, and if it doesn't let you anymore cause you tried to download too much, you'll have to wait or try changing device

[vagrant imp]

oops i guess ill have to wait. Thank you so much!

[opal kettle]

@stoic sigil its not there

[stable needle]

how does shinys work? I see there's a shiny offset script but I'm not quite understanding how it offsets. Charizard is typically black as a shiny but seems like it's not using the same shiny logic. Any help is appreciated

[neon moon]

When I download 5.1.2.4 full, do I delete the old one?

[stoic sigil]

Maybe it's a 5.0 thing. Try getting 5.1.2.4

[opal kettle]

i had custom sprites when i was on 5.0

[stoic sigil]

From what I've understood from the code so far, it uses hue offsets for shiny colours

[stoic sigil]

What's the previous version you have?

[stoic sigil]

At least 5.1.1 on it uses the indexed system

[opal kettle]

where do i download it?

[stoic sigil]

#downloads

[stable needle]

Ah hue offset gotcha. Thanks

[neon moon]

Just 5.1.2

[opal kettle]

this it @stoic sigil

[stoic sigil]

Get the patch zip and extract its contents to overwrite some of your game files, no need to delete anything you already have

[neon moon]

The game works it seems. It took away some of the controller support but that’s no issue

Otherwise it’s fine

[stoic sigil]

Yeah, apply the whole patch

[neon moon]

Just for the sake not having the game twice

[opal kettle]

how??

[stoic sigil]

Extract the patch zip and overwrite your game files with its contents. Read _DOWNLOAD INSTRUCTIONS.txt on the mega for details

There's a "How to patch" section

[opal kettle]

so i just move the whole thing into 5.0?

[stoic sigil]

Yeah, the contents so that they match and replace your current version's game files

[stoic sigil]

Exactly right

[opal kettle]

ok

[radiant tide]

Really minor, but where do I access these other settings listed in the FAQ? I cant seem to find them anywhere

Window size is the only one immediately available to me through the in-game options

[stoic sigil]

This game doesn't have options like that, I don't know what faq that is, but try the alternate launcher. It boots up longer but preloads everything for a smoother experience

[radiant tide]

It is from the infinite fusion wiki 😭

[stoic sigil]

The wiki can be outdated at many points

[radiant tide]

But also- Alt launcher?

[stoic sigil]

This discord is your most up-to-date guide on most things

[stoic sigil]

If you have the light version it isn't available cause it needs the sprites. So if you want to get rid of lag you'll have to switch to the full version first (if you already have light you only need to extract the Graphics folder from the full zip)

[radiant tide]

Just the sprite pack from the #downloads channel, right? I had actually just downloaded it haha, so that works out. Initially got the light version bc I wasnt sure

[stoic sigil]

You'll need the actual game download as well from the mega, otherwise you'll crash on launch

Like so:
#tech-support message

[opal kettle]

my game broke now

@stoic sigil

wait one sec

[sterile pivot]

Is the randomizer a sperate mod or is it part of base game?

[stoic sigil]

It's a missing sprite

[opal kettle]

@stoic sigil we good nvm

@stoic sigil you still my main guy

[stoic sigil]

Download this, place it into CustomBattlers and let it replace sprites when it asks on game launch to make sure it doesn't crash again due to this sprite

[sterile pivot]

Also if I get the regular version I don't need to download the sprites as well right?

[stoic sigil]

It's part of the base game

[stoic sigil]

Yes and I actually recommend keeping it off then

[sterile pivot]

On the loading screen, like picking difficulty, I didn't see the option to enable it

[stoic sigil]

It's only available after you've created one regular save

[sterile pivot]

Ah

So if I make another one I can enable randomizer

[stoic sigil]

Yeah. Can't recall if you need to get your starter in the regular mode first, but after that it should be available on a new game

5.1.2.4 may face issues when randomizing a new game, and if that happens, get version 5.1.1, randomize on that and then you should be able to move back to the newer version

look ma i spoke to a planet today

[sterile pivot]

I'll see what happens. Thanks

[bright sundial]

i cant download is through mega can anyone help

[stoic sigil]

#tech-support message

[bright sundial]

thx

i gotta wait 5 hours

[graceful osprey]

Where do triple fusion customs go? I can't see them in the pokedex nor switch sprites

[high monolith]

hi guys im trying to download the game, but it wont let me and says theres a virus detected, how can i fix this?

[radiant tide]

YourGameFile / Graphics / Battlers / Special

Idk if it is enabled for you to be able to swap them ig, but I assume you could just manually replace that sprite

[stoic sigil]

This seems to only happen with Opera GX, try a different browser

[high monolith]

i tried it on chrome and thats where it mentioned that it had a virus, i also tried it on opera and the download doesnt go thru there for some reason

[radiant tide]

Suampa- Just to continue from earlier. Its better to dl the full version and just replace my current 'light' graphics with the full version's file- as opposed to just adding the new sprite packs to the light version?

That was what I figured from what you said- but wanted to double check

[graceful osprey]

It doesn't works, nor show sprites of the customs

[bright sundial]

do i haft to wait 5 hours to be able to download the full version

[stoic sigil]

You kinda want to do both. You'll want to get the full version and add its Graphics folder to your light version (that's the only difference between the two), then you'll want to add the sprite pack to get the latest custom sprites as well

[stoic sigil]

Yes, if you messed up by trying to download everything and exceeding quota

[radiant tide]

Ok. The most recent version in #downloads is from feb, and the version of full was added in march. So I might be fine?

[graceful osprey]

as you can see, i have them there, but in the game, is empty and doesn't let me choose anything @radiant tide also i have the latest version, 5.1.2.4

[stoic sigil]

The sprite packs name is a bit misleading, it was released in march after the 5.1.2.4 patch, so 5.1.2.4 would contain sprite packs 1-86, but you'd need to add 87 on top of that

Using 1-87 works too

[radiant tide]

So, those mons are not in the Custom Battlers files, but in the 'Battlers' file. Do you know if you can have alt sprites for normal / default mons?

like a bulbasaur or w/e

@graceful osprey Can you try just adding those images into the Custom Battlers folder?

[cursive swallow]

i cant figure out how to make wineskin work for infinite fusion, does anyone have a walk through. im on mac big sur

[stoic sigil]

You are looking at the correct folder in the third screenshot. Alts likely don't work with those in general, but it's strange that it's not showing the main sprite either. You could try moving the alt sprites out of the folder in case they're messing it up

[stoic sigil]

Use the search bar to the top right (I can't help with mac)

[stoic sigil]

CustomBattlers doesn't handle triples

[radiant tide]

Yeah, I figured. But it was worth a shot I suppose lol. Do you know if it is possible to load alts of default mons, without replacing them?

[stoic sigil]

It's not, alts only work for fusions

[radiant tide]

I think that is the issue then. It doesnt treat trips as fusions

[earnest sage]

You know how I could delete all sprites of a certain pokemon quickly from the games sprites?

[graceful osprey]

I have perfectly working custom sprites and alts

Also i tried that too and nothing

[graceful osprey]

Move them to where?

[stoic sigil]

Use the bot command "dex [pokemon]" to get a mon's index number, then find the corresponding folder in CustomBattlers\indexed and go ham

[stoic sigil]

Just somewhere else for safekeeping, just to see if they interfere with the game

[radiant tide]

I meant alts for non-fusion pokemon, since you ||hatch the trips from an egg, not fuse existing pokemon directly, (afaik?) So it likely treats it as its own unique mon|| meaning they cannot be given alt sprites :(

[graceful osprey]

?

[graceful osprey]

Wait a moment

[radiant tide]

...Unless you could add a "special" file into the CustomBattlers\indexed file?
👀

[stoic sigil]

Not how it works

[radiant tide]

Yeah, I figured lol

Wait...

[stoic sigil]

Triples do in fact get special treatment in the code

[radiant tide]

The sprite packs

They have alts for base mons

[stoic sigil]

Yes, they contain alts for base mons, but to use them you have to manually replace

[graceful osprey]

So i have not to put them in battlers/special?

Ah, lol, misread

[radiant tide]

I believe you have to just replace the base versions, sadly. No alts allowed :(

[mighty vortex]

How do i fix this from occuring

[graceful osprey]

nope, it wasn't interfering, i think, cuz now i moved special folder to another place, ||Paldiatina|| main sprite is missing too @stoic sigil

[stoic sigil]

So now your triples folder contains only sprites without letters at the end of the name?

[rough idol]

httpscalls moment

[radiant tide]

You use the 'light' launcher?

[graceful osprey]

Didn't you say me to move the special folder to another place?

[stoic sigil]

This one's different, it's the pathing bug (fix pending for next patch), notice the double slashes in the path

[radiant tide]

Ah

[rough idol]

that's out of my level of expertise, i just see the words "httpscalls"

[solemn hinge]

I'm trying to figure out the custom sprites thing too, and i'm havin a hard time following this conversation

[safe quail]

Do u want us to stop pinging u for this now or u still want more?

[stoic sigil]

This is a bug in the current light version, consider switching to the full version or face this every time you need to download an autogen sprite

[radiant tide]

They meant move your custom sprites out for now, with ONLY base sprites, so that way you can see if ANY sprites show back up

[stoic sigil]

Keep em coming, need more data

[safe quail]

ok sure

[opal kettle]

@stoic sigil we have a new problem

[graceful osprey]

Sorry, sorry, i misread

[stoic sigil]

Not the folder, the alt sprites that have a, b, c etc. at the end of the filenames in special, leaving just the main sprites without letters in there

[stoic sigil]

I'm about to hit the bed but go ahead

[graceful osprey]

Well, let's see, done

[mighty vortex]

Im not that good with computers but i think i know what this means. ill get back to you if i still cant get it

[graceful osprey]

Yep, done, and happens the same

[opal kettle]

well the 5.0 story is different to 5.1 so my games kinda softlocked

[safe quail]

Typically the solution is to play 5.0 until they are roughly the same again

Which depends on where u are

[graceful osprey]

Maybe is a bug?

[stoic sigil]

Then I'm stumped, maybe the index number is wrong somehow or that particular triple is bugged in general

[opal kettle]

just beaten the triple fusion in mt but as i went back to main land it loaded up the story again which ive already done

the boat i need to move forward has been stolen

[safe quail]

The lengths people go to mange to be unspecific about their situation

Which Mt

There are 2 triple fusion fights at 2 different Mts

That sounds like mt ember

[opal kettle]

yea ember

[safe quail]

So u would need to play until giovanni gets back in his gym

[graceful osprey]

Thanks anyways, i think is a bug

[opal kettle]

already done that

[safe quail]

Ok so what's the issue again

U don't need the boat to progress

At all

[opal kettle]

the boat you use to travel to different ilands is gone

[safe quail]

Yeah

U don't need it

U can just

Travel there

U can't even go to the other islands with the boat until u travel there urself first

[graceful osprey]

Im gonna check it with ||zapmolcuno|| and see if its that particular fusion that's bugged or not

[opal kettle]

hmmmmm

ok thanks anyway

[safe quail]

If the boat stays gone that means u lose out on probably 1 Legendary

But ur not softlocked

[graceful osprey]

Ah lol is not registered in the pokédex so i can't
Welp, time to see colress

[safe quail]

For the record, u aren't able to swap the sprites of the triple fusions in-game

The battlers folder doesn't have that functionality

Swapping the main sprite would have to be done by replacing the first sprite entirely

But it sounds like that is messing up too

[radiant tide]

@stoic sigil
Was looking over some of the code, seems like it has two separate designations for the mons. Defines 'species' and 'fusions' separately. Further, seems that if a Pokémon has a 'species' designation, it really wants it to maintain its default form from what I was seeing.

Something probably worth altering in the future, imo. Is there a section on the disc for coding related things?

[graceful osprey]

Ohhh

[safe quail]

This is as coding-related as it gets from the user end

[graceful osprey]

Has that been suggested before? To make them swappable in custombattlers or smth

[safe quail]

The issue with that is that the battlers folder needs to be able to recognize all its sprites for the game to run

If anything happens there, the game will crash

[graceful osprey]

Cuz if not, imma going to make that suggestion 👀

[radiant tide]

Ah, gotcha. Since everyone has open access to the code base, it would be interesting to be able to pull community resources like we already do for the spriting

[safe quail]

The custombattlers folder is allowed to swap around a bunch because it's not necessary for the game to run

If the game doesn't see a custombattlers sprite it just uses a battlers sprite

[rough idol]

i would assume the github is at least vaguely like that

[safe quail]

If it doesn't see a battlers sprite

It just crashes lol

[rough idol]

i've seen people in here make pull requests before

[graceful osprey]

Or maybe you could do the suggestion cuz you seem to know a lot about that xD

But swapping them one manually by one is oof

[safe quail]

It's not a big deal imo, there's not a ton of alternate sprites for unfused pokemon

Like maybe 50 total

[radiant tide]

The issue is that the only sprites the game allows to be replaced by default are fusions. If it allowed for the base sprites to be overwritten the same way, that would allow for alt's of base mons and alt trips

[graceful osprey]

No, lol i'm talking about triple fusion sprites

[safe quail]

Yeah there's even less of those

What's the issue

[rough idol]

by the games standards triple fusions are unfused basically

[graceful osprey]

Wat

[rough idol]

cause you dont use dna splicers on them or anything

[radiant tide]

They were trying to add alts for their trips, but like Rezza just said they are effectively not fusions in the terms of the code. Since they are treated as base mons

[safe quail]

Right, but I'm saying that allowing the base sprites to be overwritten might be a more complex process because the game needs to be able to recognize a base sprite at all points

[rough idol]

and their sprites arent in custombattlers

[graceful osprey]

So making them work in custombattlers would be a lot of work?

[rough idol]

theyre effectively just fancy looking base mons

[radiant tide]

No- Im sorry. Base sprites as in the default pokemon, it doesnt allow alts for the non-fused basic pokemon. So I dont suggest altering the Battler file images, but instead allowing for alts in the CustomBattler folder for those basic pokemon.

Ie, give us the ability to have alt sprites for like bulbasaur, or rattata, etc

[safe quail]

Custombattlers is just a coat of paint over the battlers folder, so theoretically u could add a triple fusion folder to custombattlers, but the issue is that u would need a special instruction to get the game to map those sprites over the original triple fusion sprites

Yea I think I get u now, I think I've just answered that

[radiant tide]

But yeah. In theory, just allowing basic mons to have sprite replacements would allow alts for the trips, and then having a folder in the CustomBattlers\indexed that held alts for the 'special' mons would solve it all

[safe quail]

Same thing for triple fusions as for unfused pokemon

[graceful osprey]

Well, i leave it to you ppl if you wanna do the suggestion to make the special folder work in custombattlers or not
I mean, you know a lot xD

Thx for the help~

[radiant tide]

Bc right now, there is no index for the trips in the cb folder, only in the battlers one

[safe quail]

The issue is that there needs to be a battlers sprite for the triple fusions which then gets overwritten by the first custombattlers sprite

And we've been seeing issues with switching to the battlers sprite when a custombattlers sprite exists

So it's possible that u just make the base sprite inaccessible

Even assuming u get the game to recognize to apply custombattlers sprites to triple/unfused pokemon, which I would expect to be a little trickier than it sounds

Not to say it's not possible but rather that it would probably have a more significant impact on performance

[stoic sigil]

The game has a github for contributing, there's a link in a pinned message on one of the channels. But what you are describing is a massive refactoring and would likely be save-breaking, so it wouldn't likely be included until like 6.0

[radiant tide]

Yeah, looking a little under the hood. It seems like the pokemon have a species id (same as the # on the pngs), that is what determines a bunch of info about them. IF they are fused, that is when it tries to apply the custom sprites, and is when it checks for the alts.

Makes 100% sense from the dev side, especially earlier on when I am betting no one was expecting how incredibly big this iteration was going to get.

But still something worth considering, even if you could instead utilize the menu where you'd select the alt versions as the trigger, so you wouldnt need to edit the base code of those mons, but instead would just need to fiat a way to change the utilized sprite when selected in that menu.

Def an interesting problem haha

[radiant tide]

Oh yeah no for sure, just was wondering. I dont really care that I cant swap base sprites around tbh, if I ever REALLY want to I can just replace them. But it was just interesting to look at

[stoic sigil]

Yeah and if you're interested and able, find the github and make a fork. Creating the testing environment is a bit of a hassle, not a simple git clone, but when my studies ease up a bit I'm gonna be adding a contributing instructions file to the hub based on my experience getting it to work by trial-and-error

[candid stream]

I need help installing infinite fusion. I just finished extracting the game into a folder and I'm stumped on what I need to do next (for reference I got the full version so I can play it offline and I downloaded the custom sprites pack)

[radiant tide]

Open it up, double click the launcher that says pokemon fusion

lol

[stoic sigil]

But in a nutshell you need Pokemon Essentials and its git clone, overwritten with IF's base game and its git clone, and on the side, RPG Maker XP

[mellow hare]

im trying to add the sprite pack but cannot find the battle sprites file ?

[radiant tide]

Graphics\CustomBattlers

?

[mellow hare]

thats all the files i have

[tranquil grotto]

does anybody know something about a password, when I extract the files it ask me for one

[radiant tide]

You just download the sprite pack, and drop the "CustomBattlers" file into the graphics file of your game

[radiant tide]

Look at the top

[radiant tide]

You opened other

[safe quail]

U did this wrong and ur also looking in the Other folder

[mellow hare]

this is all i see in the sprite pack

[safe quail]

Yea

That's the sprite pack

87 doesn't have a custombattlers folder in it

1-87 does

Either way tho

[candid stream]

Is there anything I have to do with the sprite pack or are the sprites in the full, offline version of the game?

[safe quail]

U just drop those sprites into the custombattlers folder in ur game

[radiant tide]

Oh. I see. Remove the Sprite Pack file from there, put it on your desktop. Then drag the CustomBattlers file into the Graphics file in in your game

Oh yeah

[mellow hare]

trying to unzip it again one sec

[radiant tide]

And- @candid stream

If you want, you can download sprite pack 87 fron #downloads, that is the only one you are currently missing.

And as me and Ferrous were just explaining, you take that, extract it, and put the CustomBattlers file from the sprite pack into the \Graphics directory in your game files

[mellow hare]

@radiant tide its still not showing the custom battlers

[safe quail]

By the way, I think 87 has some formatting discrepancies with 1-86, so if ur sprites are being weird u might have to locate them and make sure they're named properly

[radiant tide]

I got the full dl, and then put 1-87 in on top of that. So hopefully none of my stuff broke lol

[safe quail]

I've occasionally seen some issues with 1-87 itself but they seem less common

It's nothing major, just like

There's a 145.4a when there's no 145.4

Stuff like that

[radiant tide]

And @mellow hare here is a step by step:

Put the sprite pack .zip on your desktop.
Extract the files.
Open it up that file, inside you will see some files and a bunch of pngs. Ignore the files.

Next, locate where you have your game installed.
Inside of that file, you will see a file named Graphics

Drag all of the .png 's from the sprite pack file into the games Graphics\CustomBattlers file.

[safe quail]

No

As I said before, sprite pack 87 doesn't have a custombattlers folder

[radiant tide]

Oh.

[mellow hare]

think its transfering now, will keep you updated if it works

[safe quail]

The sprites in that .zip are just loose

[radiant tide]

RIP

I see haha

[safe quail]

But u still put them in the custombattlers folder and it works out fine

[radiant tide]

Does it still have an others folder?

[safe quail]

Yea

It just freaks some people out who are installing sprites for the first time bc the instructions don't match exactly with what they need to do and they're not thinking ab what the instructions try to accomplish

[radiant tide]

Word, that makes sense

[radiant tide]

Updated haha

[safe quail]

Yup, that looks about right

[radiant tide]

@safe quail Actually, for the 1-87. Do you know if I just leave the Alts folder in the custom battlers folder, or do I have to open that up

[safe quail]

It depends

My game is able to read the alts folder just fine

But I think I'm just special

The issue is that there's a lot of name overlap between the alts folder and the regular sprites

So if u do mass import them ull overwrite a lot

[radiant tide]

Ouch

[stable scroll]

Hello, I was playing through Infinite Fusion and made it past the 10th gym until my friend said to download the Modern pack to get all the latest Pokémon as well. I followed the rules and proceeded to play the game as normal until I realized no wild pokemon are spawning and when I get into a trainer battle this error appears ("Script "Main": line 14: RuntimeError occurred. Traceback is too big. Output in traceback.log.) Any help?

[safe quail]

What

There's a lot wrong with what u said

[radiant tide]

Somehow the number got bigger

[safe quail]

When u say download the modern pack

[drifting jetty]

i want to download the game but i don't want to do the dumb PaY tO dOwNlOaD thing with mega, is that mean? but anyways i saw on a tutorial to download vid from literally 11 days ago that i didn't have to using discord stuff, but the "if you don't wanna use mega to download" messege is gone from the downloads channel, what do i do?

[safe quail]

Do u mean the modern patch that says ver. 4.9.2 next to it?

[stable scroll]

yes

[safe quail]

And are u on ver 4.9.2?

[opaque crescent]

Hey just curious is there any way to make the actual graphics of the game smoother/a newer gen style of graphics? Or is there no way to change the graphics

[stable scroll]

5.1.2, but didn't it say that you could play it with newer games?

[safe quail]

So u see the issue

Modern mode is integrated into 5.1 by default

[candid stream]

Finished doing this and I'm about to test it. Thank you so much

[safe quail]

U just need to start a new save in order to access it

[stable scroll]

oh ok, thanks

[safe quail]

However

[drifting jetty]

please help

[safe quail]

That error ur getting us an issue with modern mode

U now need to run a game that doesn't have modern mode files to get past that fight

[radiant tide]

Mega's download limits are IP based, so if you have any way of changing your IP that should work. Downloading from a hotspot, anything like that should work. The limit is based on the previous 6 hours

[neon moon]

On 5.1.2.4 I can’t encounter wild Pokémon

[safe quail]

Reshuffle encounters

[drifting jetty]

but on the tutorial vid it said there was a different way

[safe quail]

Btw u don't need to download the entire mega, just one of the .zips titled full

The tutorial vid is outdated

[radiant tide]

Yeah, you also just dont have to pay to dl through mega as long as you dont exceed that limit. You only really need the single file

[safe quail]

The alt download no longer has the creator's support

[drifting jetty]

ok, well is there another way to skip the cooldown thing? other than changing ip location stuff?

[safe quail]

No

[radiant tide]

Are you on a laptop or a desktop?

[drifting jetty]

desktop

[radiant tide]

Does it have the ability to connect to wifi? or only wired

[drifting jetty]

it can connect to wifi

[radiant tide]

Are you able to set up a hot spot on your phone, even just for a min to download that one file?

[turbid terrace]

Hey @radiant tide! The game isn't made to be played on mobile! You can try to use Joiplay to run it, but the game will likely be very slow, glitchy, or downright unplayable.

You can try following this guide: https://youtu.be/jADyChlJbF0

Nothing can likely be done about issues experienced on mobile, unfortunately. You can ask for help in the video's comments section if you'd like.

No dedicated mobile version of IF will be developed in the future.

[radiant tide]

lmfao

[drifting jetty]

doesn't hotspot cost money?

[safe quail]

Depends on ur plan

[radiant tide]

Depends on your cell plan

Yeah

[drifting jetty]

wait the whole download stuff is ip specific?

[radiant tide]

Yeah

Wait

Do you have a VPN?

[drifting jetty]

no

[radiant tide]

ah, shit. that would work too lol

[drifting jetty]

so am i stuck just waiting till mega is done being rude?

[graceful osprey]

What if you check your dms?

[safe quail]

Yes

[radiant tide]

I was about to do that too lmfao

[graceful osprey]

[drifting jetty]

THANK YOU

THANK YOU SM!

[radiant tide]

[graceful osprey]

[drifting jetty]

hope it works i'll be back if it doesn't

[dire temple]

Once I've installed wine, how do I download onto it?

[safe quail]

Idk, mac users are p much in their own group

[radiant tide]

I wish I could turn on the easy xp share but with the hard mode settings 😭

[dire temple]

Do you know anyone else in the group or any good tutorials? bcs the wiki is worth absolute shit

[drifting jetty]

just a question does the game have controller support?

[safe quail]

Yes

[drifting jetty]

noice

[safe quail]

Exp all is a key item u get in Fuchsia btw

So u can turn it on

Eventually

[radiant tide]

Oh.

LMFAO

Is it possible to change difficulty after, or should I make a new save

[safe quail]

I don't know of a way to change difficulty

[radiant tide]

Ah- This wasnt an option before. I understand randomizer and modern, what is special?

[safe quail]

Special is a submenu that opens up into options that will explain themselves when u select them

I'm not sure u can un-select them without starting a new save tho lol

[radiant tide]

Ah. I see. And yeah... Learned that the hard way lmfao

[safe quail]

Single Species mode turns every trainer's fusion into a fusion including the species u choose

I think that's the only thing in the menu rn

[radiant tide]

Yeah, though that is really funny haha

[safe quail]

U can turn on No Levels Mode somewhere else

[radiant tide]

Cursed Lopunny only run

[safe quail]

It's been bugging out tho

[radiant tide]

No levels mode?

[graceful osprey]

Ah, yeah, i ended making the suggestion so you can discuss it there so is not lost here also ppl can vote for it
#game-suggestions message

[safe quail]

It makes it so that levels don't impact mons' stats

I feel like u didn't get the proper takeaway from that conversation but sure

[graceful osprey]

I meant you can make a thread there and so the convo doesn't gets lost here

[radiant tide]

Are you able to swap your player sprite? I see those sprites in the other folder... And Part of me wants to play something goofy haha

[safe quail]

Yea the thing is tho

Usually if ur suggestion is either asked a lot or generally not well-received the game suggestions regulars will say what I would say but with a lot less patience

[graceful osprey]

And yes, i probably not cuz all of you started to talk about coding and i don't understand about that xD

[radiant tide]

It really do be like that sometimes

[safe quail]

Yea the bot has a command that tells u what spritemaps u need to replace, but it's all manual

[graceful osprey]

I was like

[radiant tide]

Is there a turbo function? I cant seem to turn it on if there is

[safe quail]

Q

[graceful osprey]

Q/L1

[radiant tide]

Thank you! The fact that I can also skip the intro is a godsend haha

[supple compass]

Can someone tell me why the pokedex allows me to change the sprite for gyarados/gyarados to the pictured sprite
But when I go back to the pokedex and see it in-game, it's back to being the one on the right?

[graceful osprey]

Is a bug that needs fixing

Bye ppl

[radiant tide]

👋

[supple compass]

For specifically Gyarados/Gyarados?
cuz I can change other pokemon and it sticks, just not this one

[safe quail]

U actually can't skip the intro specifically on 2x speed

It's weird

[safe quail]

This is probably because the sprite ur trying to use is located in a different folder

[drifting jetty]

uh so the file is hard to unzip, as in it won't. i tried opening the file itself zipped and it wouldn't load

[safe quail]

And that different folder is typically ignored when sprites exist in the expected folder

[safe quail]

Are u using 7zip or winRAR

[drifting jetty]

ohh i was trying the "extract all" thing brb

[safe quail]

Sometimes that works, but generally dedicated extraction software works better

And faster

[drifting jetty]

yeah it's working thank you i thought i had a bad file or i was sent a virus or smth

[safe quail]

Could always scan it before extracting if u wanted to be safe

Generally tho viruses aren't able to do anything until u extract, or open the archive

[drifting jetty]

I'll scan both after It's done

[safe quail]

I mean by that point it would be a little too late considering what I just said

But I'm not very concerned

[delicate crescent]

hey so i was trying to get the game but when it said it downloaded i checked my downloads and there was nothing and now im at a download limit on mega, any help?

[safe quail]

If ur at ur download limit what probably happened is that u tried to download the entire 5.1GB file while Mega's data limit is typically 5GB

U only need one of the .zips titled full

So the download isn't complete and uve used up ur allotted bandwidth

[delicate crescent]

at first i did only one file and thats the one that just didnt appear in my downloads so i did all of them

[safe quail]

If the first file didn't appear I would be attempting to locate where it downloaded to instead of downloading to presumably the same location

[graceful osprey]

I took that from the link that Xillo had in their profile (from another channel in the past), so it won't have any viruses lol
And if your antivirus says it has, is a false positive

[drifting jetty]

Thank you

[timid ruin]

Why this. How do I fix

[safe quail]

Ur doing it backwards

Select fuse on the first pokemon then select the second pokemon

Moving the first pokemon to the second and then selecting fuse doesn't work

[delicate crescent]

my downloads is organized from recent to even earlier

[timid ruin]

Thank you

[delicate crescent]

it aint there

[safe quail]

We don't know why Xillo was asked to take it down so I wouldn't say that it's guaranteed to be safe

[safe quail]

So I've heard. U should probably find where it is, bc it sounds like ur browser is just gonna download to the same place again and u don't know where it's downloading to, and it clearly isn't ur downloads folder

The other option is ur browser is asking u to confirm the download, or trying to ask, and ur not selecting a location, but that usually results in an unconfirmed.crdownload file if ur on chrome

[delicate crescent]

i dont know where else to check, i aint to good with computers

[delicate crescent]

i wasnt given that option

[safe quail]

If ur not sure where to look I can only recommend searching ur entire file system for infinitefusion and see if/where it pops up

[delicate crescent]

dont really know how to

[safe quail]

If u can't locate a search bar I can't help u

[delicate crescent]

oh yeah in that case it isnt anywhere then

[safe quail]

What's ur browser

[delicate crescent]

chrome

[safe quail]

U can try to confirm the download location in ur browser settings

[dry crow]

If you don't mind me asking how do you fix this occurring, after getting through the initial title animation which than won't load.

[delicate crescent]

you mean check where it downloaded? I did and nothing do I really have to wait?

[safe quail]

No I want u to check ur browser settings and see if they're set to download to downloads or somewhere else

[vale hill]

hey, im trying to get the game and ran into some problems with megaupload. is there a another way to download it?

[delicate crescent]

i did check where downloads go to and i checked but it wasnt there

[safe quail]

Well ur successfully downloading data, which mega recognizes

And then it's just being

Shuttled into the ether

Idk what to tell u

[delicate crescent]

is there another way to download or do i have to wait

[safe quail]

U have to wait

[dry crow]

Additionally I had tried deleting and redownloading the Custom battles folder which allowed the animation to play again but immediately afterword it would either be a blank screen for around 20 minutes and/or immediately go to the screen above.

[safe quail]

Yea, this is a typo generated by a coding issue with the download sprites feature

If u can, I would try to mash past the intro screen so that u can turn it off, but if u can't I don't know of a way to disable/fix it

There's a patch for this issue in the works atm

[dry crow]

ok thanks if you don't mind me asking when should I check back to see if the issue is fixed.

[safe quail]

No clue

[dry crow]

Ok thanks. Have a good day

[bronze maple]

pls help fix this

[safe quail]

Did smth happen when u were saving last?

[bronze maple]

yea

i was like mid save and the program crashed

[solemn hinge]

Hey, how do you add the custom sprites to the game?

[turbid terrace]

Hey @solemn hinge! Are you trying to add more custom sprites to your game? You can find the most up to date sprite pack containing all custom sprites in #downloads! To add them to your game, simply copy all the files into your game's CustomBattlers folder. The pack also contains alts and things such as joke sprites and regional variants, which you can also add to your game if you wish.

You can swap between alts of a given fusion in-game, using the Pokédex!

[solemn hinge]

okay, how do you add the alt sprites to the game?

[safe quail]

Which alt sprites

U mean in the alts folder?

U add them the same way but they're in the alts folder bc there's a lot of naming overlap, so if u import them they'll probably overwrite a bunch of ur main sprites

[solemn hinge]

the ones in the "Alternate Base Sprites" folder

[safe quail]

Those are different

The Alternate Base Sprites are alt sprites for unfused Pokemon, which are located in the Battlers folder

The game doesn't have any way to recognize or index alternate sprites in the Battlers folder

So u have to index and rename each alt sprite u wanna use manually

[solemn hinge]

okay, can you give me an example so that i know what i'm doin and don't fuck it up?

[zinc tinsel]

Bruh

how am I supposed to play it now?

[safe quail]

Stop trying to download the entire mega folder

U did not follow instructions

Wait 6 hours and try again

[zinc tinsel]

Oh

[safe quail]

yea 1 sec

[zinc tinsel]

I’m dum

[solemn hinge]

👍

[safe quail]

So we got this, right, 1c.png

U would go to the 1 folder in graphics > battlers, copy this in, and remove the c. This will replace the regular 1.png unless u rename that first

If u decided to keep the original 1.png, move that somewhere else

Once there's only one 1.png, the game should recognize the new sprite

[zinc tinsel]

Bru

I really want to play the game

[solemn hinge]

Blu, i can email a zip of the game if you want.

[zinc tinsel]

Ye sure!!

[solemn hinge]

Aight, dm me your email, and i'll send it on its way

or just do it here. In a public forum. Thats totally not unsafe

[zinc tinsel]

Oh

I deleted it

[bronze maple]

is there a way to fix the game? i tried redownloading it but didnt work

[safe quail]

Delete ur savefile

[bronze maple]

the folder?

[safe quail]

No

[solemn hinge]

Sent

[safe quail]

There is no savefile folder

There is a savefile shortcut

That leads to the folder that contains the savefiles

Which u shouldn't delete

Just the savefile(s) therein

[solemn hinge]

its gonna be a google drive link as both discord and gmail have file size limits on what can be sent as attachments

[zinc tinsel]

Oh

I got the .rar

[bronze maple]

im a bit lost, where do i go

[safe quail]

Double click the Savefile shortcut

There will be savefiles in that location

That end in .rxdata

Delete those

Then u can run the game

Deleting the shortcut itself doesn't do what u want

[bronze maple]

im assuming i have to start the game from the beginning now right?