off-topic

[frigid minnow]

for me

as well as Guilmon ofc

little red dino

[twin oyster]

Yeah that's understandable X3

[frigid minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/guilmon-digimon-digimon-tamers-digital-monster-digital-monsters-gif-6604086560359368503

[gray ocean]

Fair enough

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-guilmon-eat-eating-munch-gif-5147771

[frigid minnow]

best digimon fr

[gray ocean]

Fr fr

He was voiced by Steve blum

[twin oyster]

Guilmon was for me another attempt of agumon

But different

[gray ocean]

Aka animated Wolverine

[twin oyster]

Like a pikachu clone

But then again we talk about digimon

[radiant otter]

Wouldn't they be called agumon clone then.

[frigid minnow]

but better

[gray ocean]

well Agumon already has Agumon clones

His varriants

[twin oyster]

Yeah

[frigid minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-tamers-gif-4617672101200661703

[radiant otter]

Do digimon also have pokemon "tradition" like regional bird, regional rodent, that kind of thing ?

[frigid minnow]

bro had a cool evo line too

[frigid minnow]

nah

[gray ocean]

Black,snow,toy,X,06,black 06,snow 06, clear

[twin oyster]

That's snow agumon

I like toy agumon

Wish they continued that line

Like toy greymon and such

[radiant otter]

And is there an equivalent to legendary in digimon.

[frigid minnow]

what would it even be tho

[frigid minnow]

yes

Megas

[gray ocean]

they don’t really have any they kinda just make a few digimon a year

[gray ocean]

Uh they don’t really count

[twin oyster]

Megas is the last stage

[gray ocean]

I’d say royal knights

[frigid minnow]

yeah ig

the royal knights were busted af

[gray ocean]

The sovereign

[twin oyster]

Or whatever they ard

[radiant otter]

Now I definitely need to try a digimon game.

[gray ocean]

Olympus 12

[frigid minnow]

uhhh..

cyber sleuth

play cyber sleuth

💀

[twin oyster]

HACKERS MEMORY

[gray ocean]

it’s the one with the most mods

[frigid minnow]

hackers memory's ending broke me

[twin oyster]

The first is a snail fest

[gray ocean]

meaning you can add extra mons

[twin oyster]

Me too it's sooo good 😭

[gray ocean]

Yeah

[frigid minnow]

good?

😭

[twin oyster]

I mean like

[frigid minnow]

brooo

[twin oyster]

It's amazing

[frigid minnow]

they didnt have to do that to her 😭 😭 😭

[gray ocean]

Tbh hackers memory a little to easy imo

[frigid minnow]

...

well duh..

[twin oyster]

There is a hard mode

[gray ocean]

I can beat it in like 12 hours

[frigid minnow]

which is easy.

[twin oyster]

And the after game

[twin oyster]

Try the battle tower

[frigid minnow]

battle tower was easy

[twin oyster]

What

[gray ocean]

Tbh

[frigid minnow]

Tbh

[gray ocean]

There should be a Digimon mystery dungeon game

[frigid minnow]

does the original World count?

[gray ocean]

I’d play the shit out of it

[twin oyster]

What about digimon adventures 02?

[frigid minnow]

🤢

what about

Data Squad

Data Squad was my childhood lol

[twin oyster]

I can't even play it

[gray ocean]

Mystery dungeon

[frigid minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/masru-daimon-digimon-savers-punch-kokatorimon-digimon-gif-18812765

best digimon mc imo

[gray ocean]

True

[twin oyster]

It's so funny

[gray ocean]

Tho I’m partial to appmon myself

[twin oyster]

He can punch code

[frigid minnow]

he can punch digimon

[gray ocean]

Great season tbh

Overlooked

[twin oyster]

Digimons are just code

[gray ocean]

Underrated

[frigid minnow]

ok?

[twin oyster]

So he punches code

[gray ocean]

lol

[twin oyster]

Wish i could've done it in the time i studied IT

[gray ocean]

Mainly cause mystery dungeon is fun

[twin oyster]

I don't hate the season where they can fuse with their digimon

[gray ocean]

It works so well with digimon

[twin oyster]

It could

But then again

[gray ocean]

Randomly changing dungeons

a person becoming a digimon

[twin oyster]

They can't keep a digimon game alive

[gray ocean]

a deep story

[twin oyster]

Every of their mobile game gets pulled after 2 years

And they shadow dropped the last one

[gray ocean]

I mean like a actual game

tbh if there was a mystery dungeon maker

I’d 100% do it

[twin oyster]

Yeah but bandai is extremely weird about their digimon ip

[gray ocean]

they have Batman and Agumon on the same device

[twin oyster]

I mean i always wanted to make a digimon fangame

[gray ocean]

so

[frigid minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/gaomon-digimon-gaomon-epic-gaomon-digimon-hi-there-gif-16995567856742699976

[twin oyster]

This reminds me of the digimon online game

The mmorpg one

[gray ocean]

Yeah

[twin oyster]

I hate how so many don't get localized here

[gray ocean]

Tbh

I feel it’s Nickelodeon’s fault

[twin oyster]

Even for the games?

[gray ocean]

thanks to them we didn’t get many localizations of the anime

[gray ocean]

The digimon xros wars (fusion) game never came out here

[twin oyster]

Because like here in Germany we are missing 02 and the data squad game

Even the game based on the first season

[gray ocean]

It was a Japan exclusive

[frigid minnow]

joe

[twin oyster]

I hate how that is japan exclusive

[frigid minnow]

joe mama.

[twin oyster]

Because it also adds the mega forma of the ones that never did in the anime for some reason

[gray ocean]

They eventually got them in tri

[frigid minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/blitzgreymon-greymon-blitzgr-blitzgrey-itzgrey-gif-18456945

[twin oyster]

That looks like the mobile game i used to spend way too much time

Until it then got pulled

[frigid minnow]

its literally

cyber sleuth

😐

[twin oyster]

Ohhhh

Sorry

They keep reusing stuff

[gray ocean]

and covered the legendary heroes storyline

From xros wars s2

[twin oyster]

I still need to watch tri 😭

[gray ocean]

Tri is mid

[twin oyster]

Btw the guandrmon film

Confused me

It's based on such a random digimon and the story line sounds confusing

I only saw it in a yt review and the review wasn't that good

[twin oyster]

I mean the one who spits out metal balls

[gray ocean]

Dorumon?

You mean the X antibody movie

Which is about digimon with X antibody

[twin oyster]

Yeah

[gray ocean]

Who’s main is a digimon who naturally has it

and the mascot for that

[twin oyster]

Tbh X antibody is another thing to add more forms to another digimon

[gray ocean]

yeah

but also some story relevance

[twin oyster]

Sadly i saw no game with X antibody forms

Would love to use that one day

[gray ocean]

DeathX

That mon normally carries the X antibody

Shame it died tho

[twin oyster]

But also another form from dorugamon

[gray ocean]

Yeah

[twin oyster]

You said something about mods for cyber sleuth

And i wanted to ask like

Where could i find some because i already once comple it the game

[gray ocean]

Game banana

[twin oyster]

Ahhh

Because i have the complete collection

Now i need to smh not be dumb X3

[twin oyster]

I just found a mod that adds them

Now my issue is that i don't know how to mod lol X3

[prime badge]

nothing like leaving your PalWorld running whilst you work and just watching this number go up

[twin oyster]

Me when i want to farm just a little bit

[prime badge]

[neon sonnet]

Relevant

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1132329158962315284/1199164225516478494/i-updated-this-meme-v0-zgygx5dfd0ec1.png?ex=65c18bb6&is=65af16b6&hm=72e43fb5ad38fa93b3a4614329f4195fe69f3e398cd99f8bc2ed7d3addd66f57&

[twin oyster]

There is no evolution

:0

[split sigil]

PokeSlavery

[sonic sandal]

https://youtu.be/AbsF5R7Zf0E?si=xaCp764x5kVmuOI5

[fallow quartz]

"there are only freaks on social media that have different perspectives, that's reality, everything else is a mental illness"

why was he so mad over character customization

[tribal dune]

i mean if someone's ignoring their real world problems because they dont wanna deal with them, what else are they gonna do with the anger that builds up?

[loud sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIy_6pwATAc

[twin oyster]

Fr XD

Omg it makes me want to throw up

[lone sequoia]

I really enjoy palworld but I am getting a little annoyed with how people are covering it as something revolutionary when it is quite literally just a very competent Frankenstein of ideas plucked straight from other games that had to actually make those ideas first

[twin oyster]

Isn't that legit against rule1????

[lone sequoia]

Like you can enjoy the game it’s great fun but holy shit they did some ROBBERY on the Pokémon IP and BOTW

[twin oyster]

That's such a real statement

You can criticize a game and still like it

Or at least at one point enjoy it

[lone sequoia]

I feel dirty playing it now tbh

Look me in the eyes and tell me this isn’t Delphox with a hat

[twin oyster]

I legit can't

Plus i am not allowed to say it's name

[lone sequoia]

This is the one that finally broke me

Yeah I got flash banged when I looked up its name earlier

Worst mistake in my life

[twin oyster]

Imagine using a german bad word as a name

[prime badge]

Palworld defo nothing new, but it is fun

cant fault it there

how long they keep their designs for though

[twin oyster]

Probably used ai to translate the name

[lone sequoia]

I give them some leeway with the naming because they aren’t an English studio it is what it is

Extremely hard to translate portmanteaus and pun names language to language

[lone sequoia]

I think if the game didn’t skyrocket to like #2 most played on steam they would be completely fine but I don’t see a world where Nintendo don’t take a shot at them for some of these

[prime badge]

yeah agreed

saw an article somewhere that the more people associate it with pokemon the more of a foothold a lawsuit will have

so uh

[lone sequoia]

You mean like someone making a full conversion day 2?

[prime badge]

might be a bs article though lol

exactly lol

[twin oyster]

Ohh yeah gastly sorry to annoy with that but sharing that video isn't that technically breaking rule1 because maybe i am just to sensitive about it

[lone sequoia]

I don’t want them to get slapped by a multi bajillion dollar company because I just always want indie studios to thrive but the more I hear about them the more I’m like maayyybbeee they deserve it just a little bit

[prime badge]

you lost me there, come again? 🙂

[twin oyster]

In the video the person says "nb models are ugly models"

And agrees with the devs about it

[prime badge]

il remove the vid just in case for now, cant have a proper watch atm working

[twin oyster]

Ohhh okay

[lone sequoia]

Asmongold is not a super friendly person with that stuff asaik

[wooden stone]

I wonder what the line is gonna be that Palworld would have to cross to warrant a lawsuit besides the innate copy of design of pokémon

[twin oyster]

I think nintendo is already on that case

They already crossed the line

[wooden stone]

Yeah that is true but what did you expect to happen when you make a game so similar

[twin oyster]

I mean some blinds still try to deny it and call it an "upgrade" whatever that means

I am not saying the games aren't worth criticizing

I think this video is what really brings my point

https://youtu.be/fK0hfUuo2jA?si=32L8r6JCk5OHFC0H

[wooden stone]

That is a very informative video

[prime badge]

another mod sorted it, thanks!

[twin oyster]

Alrighty

[wooden stone]

He also makes good points about the issue

[twin oyster]

Fr

That's why i like to watch him

[prime badge]

yeah solid video that one

[formal merlin]

I just randomly traced a fakemon cuz I got bored

[loud sun]

they should've just stuck to the parody idea

[wooden stone]

Should've

[loud sun]

is there a problem with "should've"?

[wooden stone]

No

[gray ocean]

What would make a good prevo for the legendary beasts?

Working on a custom Dim card

[twin oyster]

Btw i wanted to thank you to make me aware that there is moding for the game

[gray ocean]

You’re welcome

[gray ocean]

Anyone got suggestions?

[twin oyster]

What about an eevee

Like flareon

Especially if they are already are speculated to be related to them

Maybe just as the champion form

[wooden stone]

What would be the baby form since they originate from that form

[twin oyster]

Hmmm i mean baby forms are simple blobs

[gray ocean]

I most likely will just use a digimon baby form

[wooden stone]

That's fair

[gray ocean]

There’s a lot

[twin oyster]

I like most

[wooden stone]

You could also use ditto

[gray ocean]

Ditto would have their own

[wooden stone]

Oh how very interesting

[gray ocean]

Involving new

Mew

And mewtwo

Alongside some other Pokemon like that

[wooden stone]

Oh okay that's neat

In that case what digi-blob would work best

[gray ocean]

Well most of the beasts are mammals

[wooden stone]

I need to rewatch Digimon again it's been a few years

[gray ocean]

So Fusamon and Bowmon maybe

[twin oyster]

Awwww

That wasn't in the anime

[wooden stone]

Yes this would work really well

[gray ocean]

Digimon from the novel

[twin oyster]

They have way to many

I think a game with every would need a quantum pc to work

[wooden stone]

Yeah

[gray ocean]

It’s only 1400

[wooden stone]

Only...

[twin oyster]

XD

[gray ocean]

lol

Either way

Great picks

What would be the rookie

[twin oyster]

Would it be to obvious if one is eevee

Because it's lika fox dog cat mon

[gray ocean]

There’s 2 unlockable rookies to think about

[wooden stone]

Is this going off of digivolving which can make no sense or pokémon evolution that makes somewhat sense

[gray ocean]

Closest thing

That’s what we’re doing

[wooden stone]

So a mix of both gotcha

[gray ocean]

Here’s my last one

[wooden stone]

Oooh Okay that makes sense

[gray ocean]

Yeah

If anyone got any first stages lay em on me

[wooden stone]

Eevee would make sense for the rookie

But there is also rockruff

[gray ocean]

Well it could be a unlockable one

[lone sequoia]

does there have to only be 1 rookie?

[gray ocean]

There’s 2 unlockables

The adventure thing is that

[lone sequoia]

theres so many dogs to choose from

poocheyena

lillypup

maschiff

[gray ocean]

Dogs and cats

[lone sequoia]

oh god if you're including cats

I would almost just stick to dogs in this one if you can

because of how many there are

[wooden stone]

Stoutland would work

[gray ocean]

There ain’t any water dogs that’d fit ultimate

[wooden stone]

That is true

[lone sequoia]

could always just yoink vaporeon

close enough

[twin oyster]

Vapoeron is more a champion

[gray ocean]

Ye

[twin oyster]

Btw the eevee line is all a weird dog cat fox mix

[twin oyster]

I can see that

[wooden stone]

Suicune is going to be a pain

[gray ocean]

If you can find the gen 9 box image for them

Send em my way

Could use a ice mon

[wooden stone]

Alolan Ninetails

[gray ocean]

Yeah

[wooden stone]

Would be a good ultimate

And then Alolan vulpix

Or using Glaceon

[gray ocean]

Alolan vulpix would be a rookie

Tbh

[wooden stone]

That makes more sense

[gray ocean]

But if ninetails is a ultimate

Makes things confusing

Idk if I should keep the paradoxes

They are more reptile then mammal

[wooden stone]

What would you put instead

[gray ocean]

Other legendary mammal Pokemon

Or megas

[wooden stone]

Gotcha

[gray ocean]

Should I?

[wooden stone]

It's your final decision we are here as informants

[gray ocean]

Ok well here it is as of now

[wooden stone]

Nice

[gray ocean]

Tbh

May make the paradoxes ultimates

[wooden stone]

Or make the ogs ultimates and make the paradoxes the megas

[gray ocean]

I feel since the paradoxes came before

it makes sense to have them as ultimates

[wooden stone]

Up to you

[gray ocean]

Y,know what

Now that leaves a few slots

[wooden stone]

It works a little better right

I saw it as it made it flow a bit better

[gray ocean]

Now who’s next?

[wooden stone]

Well what's gonna be in the adventure category

[gray ocean]

Unlockables

Ones you unlock the ability to evolve while you play adventure mission

[wooden stone]

I see

Would rockruff work in the rookie adventure section

[gray ocean]

I can see it

[wooden stone]

Yeah

[gray ocean]

Who else?

[wooden stone]

It's the second rookie that's troublesome

[gray ocean]

Riolu?

[twin oyster]

Definitely

Especially because of the blue color scheme

Standing up pup

[gray ocean]

Hmm

[twin oyster]

???

[gray ocean]

I can’t see what it is

[twin oyster]

Lol

[wooden stone]

Yeah

[twin oyster]

I think for the lucario

We go for a more standing up approach

Like

Why isn't my Pokemon brain working

[wooden stone]

Mega lucario should be the mega

[gray ocean]

Then lucario may be moved to ultimate

[wooden stone]

Cause there has to be something that can go between

[gray ocean]

Ok

[wooden stone]

Zeraora

Possibly

They are somewhat similar

[gray ocean]

That’s actually a good mega

[wooden stone]

I just looked up similar mons to lucario and saw it and went oh yeah

So honestly you could put mega lucario back in ultimate and put Zeraora in mega

[gray ocean]

K

I think I like this one

[wooden stone]

Oooh yeah

Is that it

Done

Because I think it looks sweet

[gray ocean]

Thx

May make in the future

Depends

If someone has another idea

I’ll do it later today

After I charge my phone

[wooden stone]

Dope

That was fun let me know if you do another

[gray ocean]

I need a theme

and I’ll do another

These are fun to make

[wooden stone]

A theme...hmm

Have you done the legendary Birds

[loud sun]

why not chien-pao for the mega instead of zeraora?

[gray ocean]

I-

Huh

[wooden stone]

Wow I forgot about the four ruin mons

Well then

[loud sun]

here's the boy

[wooden stone]

Da boy

[gray ocean]

What theme should I do next?

[loud sun]

the legendary birds idea seems pretty fun

[wooden stone]

Agreed

[loud sun]

(also you should make the baby and in-training brown to fit eevee)

[gray ocean]

if you get a list of some

[loud sun]

articuno, zapdos, moltres, and yveltal

[gray ocean]

Wouldn’t Luigia work?

[loud sun]

oh snap them too!

[gray ocean]

What’d evolve into each bird?

Also that makes 2 in one day

[wooden stone]

Three legendary birds into the galarian forms

Like the dog trio

[loud sun]

i know this guy is gonna be in there somewhere

[wooden stone]

Hehe

He a funny boi

[loud sun]

perhaps a low level bird mon, like pidgey

[gray ocean]

Here’s the template

[wooden stone]

Or piplup

[gray ocean]

Why not try some stuff out

I’ll get back in a few minutes

Wait nvm

I missed my train n

[wooden stone]

Oh sorry if you missed because of us

[gray ocean]

You didn’t

I always miss it

But yeah

You can use the template

To come up with ideas

[wooden stone]

Okay

[gray ocean]

The baby

[twin oyster]

Awww birbs

Baby birbs

[gray ocean]

These would be the baby and intrainning

[wooden stone]

Yes

[gray ocean]

Rookie could be pidgey

Rookie #2 could be Starly

[tribal dune]

or, ya know

rookidee

[gray ocean]

#3

[wooden stone]

I was gonna say

[tribal dune]

as a possible option yea

[gray ocean]

K

Ho-oh and lugia should be unlockable megas

Tbh maybe should move this a gc or thread

[wooden stone]

Potentially yeah

[gray ocean]

Either works

[wooden stone]

True

[twin oyster]

But i am interested

[wooden stone]

Same

[gray ocean]

So gc or thread?

[wooden stone]

What's the preference

[gray ocean]

I don’t mind either

Just depends what’s more easy

[twin oyster]

I mean both are very similar

But i don't see an option to make one here

[gray ocean]

So gc I guess

[wooden stone]

Sure

[twin oyster]

Yeah

[loud sun]

edited to make the prevos brown

[gray ocean]

The colour of the prevos don’t really matter

[loud sun]

fletchling would make a good rookie/in-training candidate

I mean, they have all the colors for the four legendary birds in the mega category

[gray ocean]

Rookie

[gray ocean]

In training is like baby Pokemon

[loud sun]

found a palworld defender

and this guy is annoying.

[karmic imp]

block them

[loud sun]

already have

[karmic imp]

good

[loud sun]

Sadly, this guy is unaware that the reason why palworld is getting flack right now is because palworld a soulless copy, while digimon can stand on its own

[karmic imp]

ikr digimon has data monsters and in pokemon and humans originally were the same species

[loud sun]

and yes, the pals weren't designed by an ai....
but how is a human being stealing and mashing up assets any better?

[karmic imp]

its not

[loud sun]

exactly!

[steep glacier]

Digimon’s premise is interesting. Not necessarily the critters themselves, but the idea of information-based life forms. Pure, intangible information is to a digimon what carbon is to us.

[crystal summit]

British people

[twin oyster]

Weird yeah digimon and Pokemon getting often compared but it's not like there is no reason for it and the arguments they bring up are dumb the only similarities that isn't even really there is the "catching"

In most digimon games it always gets handled differently and the anime was way darker in many points

Some digimon games are more like it's based tamagotchi form and others completely different so not a single game is the same the only exception i could say would be cyber sleuth but even these games have differences

While main line Pokemon game in its core premise always the same loop that's not a bad thing but digimon has always its own identity and the ones saying digimon is just another monster catcher just saw an episode of the anime and probably not even a full one

[loud sun]

heck the guy even said that pokemon ripped off shin megami tensei which...
is also different from pokemon despite being in a similar genre

[twin oyster]

These people are my favorite always saying some random bs so long it makes the thing you criticize look bad

[loud sun]

also, dragon quest monsters came before shin megami tensei

oh, and here's more from this person that needs to take a step back from social media

[twin oyster]

Why are they always talking about stealing but when you show them what they defend is just plain theft they make up excuses

[twin oyster]

Give me the assets and blender and i can creat a pall without prior knowledge

[loud sun]

again, just because models aren't getting stolen, doesn't mean that there isn't any theft involved

....BUT now that they said that they have done 3D art in the past..

[twin oyster]

Man nintendo can't sue these scummy mobile gatcha games because they changged some stuff

[twin oyster]

Yeah 3d artists

Okay i will fr now download blender

[loud sun]

also, a 3D modeler should've known that you can manipulate the verticies

one's showing the edges while the other is showing the verticies

[digital vortex]

IDC if the vertices aren't the exact same

That's the same thing

[twin oyster]

What?

[digital vortex]

The model, not edges and vertices

[twin oyster]

Ohhh sorry i am slowly getting tired

[digital vortex]

Like that's clearly at least traced, right?

[loud sun]

oh my god.
dude.... palworld is not parody

the company didn't say it was parody.

yes, taking inspiration from one another is not a crime, but there's inspiration, and then there's derivatives.

[twin oyster]

Ohh yeah 10k multibillion conpany

[digital vortex]

Also like, it's just Ark with Pokemon

[loud sun]

no they don't!

the hell is this guy talking about

seriously, I am tempted to unblock this moron just so I can tell them my two cents on the matter and how unbelievely wrong they are.

[digital vortex]

Nah

Don't do it

[twin oyster]

my favorite multimilon company

[loud sun]

oh, and they're also making a hollow knight clone btw

[twin oyster]

The only game they finished was overdungeon

[loud sun]

not the same user, but come on

[twin oyster]

Sadly i cant listen to ost but selling the ost of a early access game

[hallow epoch]

whyyyyyyyyyy

[digital vortex]

I always forget how old Astral Dreadnaught is lmao

[loud sun]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-money-giveittome-mr-krabs-spongebob-gif-4184913

[digital vortex]

Beat me to it lmao

[twin oyster]

This reminds me of the person who tricks the whole steam market

[hallow epoch]

lol

[twin oyster]

I saw a video from dexz or so

[digital vortex]

I only don't wanna play Palworld because it's not enough of a Pokemon clone in the parts I care about tbh

I would rather play "just another turn based creature catcher" with creatures that aren't direct rips of Pokemon than "Pokemon with guns" but it's ARK and not Pokemon

[loud sun]

and has pokemon slavery

and you can capture humans

[twin oyster]

I mean it has a fun premise

[loud sun]

.....oh, and there's no clever commentary

[twin oyster]

If the creators aren't down right bad

[digital vortex]

Honestly I assumed Ark did that too

[twin oyster]

If that's the new meta

Then the gta collection is a good game

Fnaf Security breach on Launch gold

And whatever ea publish original

I thought we didn't wanted to evolve in that direction

Heck even pvz3 would be considered a good game

[loud sun]

they are defending what is essentially derivative designs.
shadowbeak, the final boss, is just a horrible design

[wooden stone]

Type-Null is that you?

[loud sun]

pfpf yeah

plus, in the context of the paldeck, this pal looks pretty damn normal

...except for the weird arceus ring

[twin oyster]

I saw better sonic oc at that point

[wooden stone]

wild

[twin oyster]

And i talk about the re Coloring ones

[wooden stone]

Shadow be like

[loud sun]

ah, but here's the rub.

and from what I gathered, there is no consequence to this.

at least with ark, there really isn't a society to speak of. it's a free for all

in palworld, there is a society.

there are laws.

[digital vortex]

Damn

[wooden stone]

bruh

[twin oyster]

It's also clear they do it with how different each model looks like

[loud sun]

if this game was more well thought out, there would've been consequences to your actions.
there would've been things that might've been tantelizing, but ultimately lead to your doom

that's why undertale was good: it judged you based on your actions

[twin oyster]

Some more detailed other less

[loud sun]

here? there are laws, but it doesn't affect the gameplay

[twin oyster]

Heck i don't care if people like it but at least see the flaws

Even my favorite games have flaws heck i like the cat in the hat game

[loud sun]

scarlet and violet has flaws too, but I enjoyed it for how it is

[twin oyster]

But i can see all its flaws and issues

That's why i hate this inconsistency

People brude force glitches

[loud sun]

I don't think I've ever encountered a pokemon game where a bug makes you end up on the opponent's side

[twin oyster]

😭 😭 😭 unplayable

Paleworld

Nah that has no flaws

And it's just the toxic Pokemon community

[loud sun]

i think another reason as to why the designs don't work is that run on the "rule of cool"

[twin oyster]

I guess nowadays people would love shadow the hedgehog

The game

Where they randomly gave shadow a gun

[loud sun]

sure, the rule of cool can work, but you can only throw in so many accessories on a character before you lose sight on what you are making

[river pewter]

Pokémon had guns since Gen 1

[loud sun]

take this pal for example.
why does it have a mane ruff?

[twin oyster]

Gen 1 was darker for sure

[loud sun]

what's the point of it? why does it have a long tail? it's supposed to be a rabbit, right?

[twin oyster]

It has no design philosophy

Ans the name is just random name soup

[loud sun]

and that's why the designs don't work.
they're just combining things and calling it a day

its the very thing that people make fun of digimon for

when in reality, there is a meticulous design philosophy

here? just screams mobile game cheapness.

[wooden stone]

You're not wrong

[loud sun]

have they made mobile games in the past?

[twin oyster]

Btw verlisify is on the defensive side

:3

[digital vortex]

"yo guys check out my Cinderace OC, he's special because he's a grass type"

[loud sun]

oh god yes

that's exactly what I'm talking about

[wooden stone]

No but they don't have the highest quality

[twin oyster]

Sorry but i would feel bad if i was on the same side as him

I know you can't choose it but he is always acting edgy

And he always blaimes the Pokémon community for everything and make us look like this toxic pool of people that is split up and out for blood

Man and i thought gen oneers already became a minority

[loud sun]

ok fine one more roast

dude. that's just ign.

[twin oyster]

Anyway i am extremely tired now

Ign scores are dumb

[wooden stone]

Yeah

[twin oyster]

They give every game hig scores

[loud sun]

oh, and I don't think they payed attention to the

IN PROGRESS

part of the review.

which translates to: this grade is not final.

[digital vortex]

ever-present

[frigid minnow]

turkey?

[narrow prairie]

“A.I Will Take Over The World!” - Some guy having A midlife crisis

[narrow prairie]

I’m surprised P.E.T.A hasn’t filed A lawsuit.

[loud sun]

Are you trying to reverse engineer the process?

[steep glacier]

Doesn’t Leafeon actually have a sharp leaf tail though?

It learns Leaf Blade and X-Scissor and the like.

[narrow prairie]

Really? I thought it was sharp because it was flimsy so it had to compensate for it

[steep glacier]

If Leafeon’s defense stat is anything to go by it isn’t all that flimsy lol

[narrow prairie]

Exclusively the tail.

I ain’t gonna break Leafeon like A celery stick, that’s what Palworld is here for.

[steep glacier]

Celery is weird to me

I like veggies and all but celery tastes like bad water and has the texture of a cucumber with hairs in it

[steep glacier]

Can’t honestly recall the last time I had fries lol

[timber bough]

Same

Oh wait i can

[steep glacier]

Had carrot sticks this morning tho

[narrow prairie]

Why you no eat your veggies >=[

[steep glacier]

Do those count?

Broccoli, carrots, etc are probably most of what I eat aside from bread lol

[narrow prairie]

Maccas Fries are just Vegetables disguised as Junk Food.

[steep glacier]

Should probs eat more meat but meh

Should I make some teriyaki chicken tonight or some breaded and pan-fried chicken? o3o

[steep glacier]

Leaning towards the breaded one kinda. Teriyaki sounds like a lotta salt rn

[loud sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7el2euOHis

[loud sun]

#irony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLbMfJZDjcM

[narrow prairie]

Would you rather: Have the power to sue P.E.T.A for legally attacking the Mammal Animal known as Human and win, or have A direct line to Game Freak's C.E.O and you can order them to do anything you want to the mainline Pocket Monster games at A maximum of 3 times per A 20 year interval? Honestly, I'm choosin' P.E.T.A. Would just be so nice if I could turn their own argument against them and thus fundamentally break the laws of law because who ever actually reads the Terms And Conditions, random-legal-court-guy or not?

[green bay]

do legends arceus next

people say palworld is pokemon with guns but in PLA you can literally throw mud balls at pokemon

and it stuns them

[narrow prairie]

Medieval Flashbang:

[green bay]

i played legends myself and it is good

for once i can get all 3 starters without having to trade or using home

[narrow prairie]

Like, seriously, 1 night, everyone was sleeping, the next, they actin' like they have no work to do when I have several jobs waiting to be completed, and for some reason their Path Finding makes them go to the utter edges of the base before going in and out in and out in and out over and over and over forever on A continuous loop.

[rancid bison]

"Palworld a soulless copy" remember if one thing did a concept before then that means no one else can put their own spin on it with out being a rip off

[rancid bison]

Getting inspired ≠ stealing and mashing up assets

[high rain]

I honestly don't understand how you can have this take while making sprites for Pokemon Infinite Fusion... How is what you do as a sprite artist for this game not "Just combining things and calling it a day"? How is that exact phrase not embodied by this: #sprite-gallery message

[rancid bison]

Oh ok

[loud sun]

that.... is not what i said.

[rancid bison]

You see there's a difference from arguing and being an ass

[rancid bison]

You are saying Palworld is a soulless copy

"Sadly, this guy is unaware that the reason why palworld is getting flack right now is because palworld a soulless copy, while digimon can stand on its own"

Also imo i think its a bit too early to judge Palworld both positiviely and negatively

[loud sun]

yes, I said that, but not " if one thing did a concept before then that means no one else can put their own spin on it with out being a rip off"
i'm just saying that palworld didn't put any effort into the designs, while other monster hunting games like dragon quest monsters, digimon, and yokai watch manage to put their spin on it.
heck, even even nexomon made their monster designs unique!

[rancid bison]

I mean there are plenty of Pal that have plenty of character

Look at this fucker

[loud sun]

you want to know the difference between infinite fusion and palworld?
infinite fusion is designed to be an expansion of the dna splicers idea: combining pokemon to get different abilities and moves.
Also, its a fangame.
Palworld, on the other hand, doesn't have that going for them.
Palworld is not a fangame. It is an attempt to be the replacement for pokemon.
And if they want to stand out, then they better have good monster designs.
which they don't.

[rancid bison]

Palworld if anything is a parody

Not a replacement

[loud sun]

correction: palworld didn't put effort on most of the monster designs.

[loud sun]

when did any of the creators say that?

[high rain]

You're right Palworld is far more of an original product simply because it ISN'T building off exactly the mechanics of Pokemon

It has mechanics and gameplay which aren't taken from Pokemon at all in any form

[rancid bison]

Its blatently obvious

Also the devs didnt say it was a replacement either

[loud sun]

blatant obviousness is not evidence.

where exactly did the creators say it was parody?

[rancid bison]

Maybe play the game for yourself

[loud sun]

you catch pals and hurt them to catch them easier.

[rancid bison]

Does Weird Al say all of his parody songs are parodies

[high rain]

Which you also do in PIF...

except they are actual pokemon

[loud sun]

news flash! all pokemon fangames do this

also they are fangames.
palworld is not a fangame.

[rancid bison]

I doubt he does cause he doesnt need too, its blatently obvious that Weird Al's songs are parodies

[high rain]

yea that's my point it is far more original than any fan game because it is NOT a fangame.

[frigid minnow]

are you all STILL talking about Palworld?

[timber bough]

Yes

[frigid minnow]

its been 3-4 days

[timber bough]

I believe they are

[frigid minnow]

oh my god 😭

[timber bough]

Exactly

Its been only 3-4 days

[frigid minnow]

PLEASE find a new topic

im not forcing u or anything

[loud sun]

oh thank god a person that doesn't worship palworld

[frigid minnow]

but holy hell 💀

[loud sun]

you do realize that you can still like a game and also see the flaws in said game, right?

[rancid bison]

Im not worshipping it lmao 😂

[frigid minnow]

and there we go

back to palworld

ill come back in 2-3 days

💀

[high rain]

You can't argue that a fan game that uses actual pokemon, actual gameplay mechanic down to exact mathematical equations, has more soul and creativity than an orginal game that doesn't play anything like Pokemon.

[rancid bison]

Give it a month and the talk of it will slowdown

[rancid bison]

Palworld does play like pokemon, but only a small bit, if anything Palworld is Ark with a Pokemon Skin , take Ark add Pokemon like monsters and guns and you have Palworld

[high rain]

absolutely I don't think Palworld is perfect and there are definitely things that could be improved but it is far from a being "Souless and derivative"

[loud sun]

well here's the thing:
I hope that palworld can do good. There's a good idea in there and it might be a good platform for some commentary on the monster catching genre.
It's just that so far, it is half baked.

[rancid bison]

Ok but have you played the game

Instead of judging it from a 3rd person view

[loud sun]

Most of the designs are generic and derivative, and there are no consequences to the things you do.
Like capturing humans

Even though it is illegal, you can do it without consequence.

[high rain]

@rancid bison 100% agree I am not saying there are no similarities but the main gameplay loop is survival crafting and action combat. So despite having a creature capture mechanic the minute to minute gameplay is nothing like the turn based startegy of Pokemon.

[frigid minnow]

shouldnt be a month, should be 2-3 days..

[hallow epoch]

I'd give it untoll next week

This doesnt seem like a game that will have weeks if hype

[loud sun]

Sorry, I just hate wasted potential in games.

[loud sun]

Oh I hope it dies down

[hallow epoch]

Yeah

[high rain]

of course it's "half baked" that's why it is in early access. It was also made with an estimated budget of around 1 billion Yen which converts to roughly $6.5 million USD and already feels like a more finished game than a lot of AAA titles with budgets over $200 million

[river pewter]

Palworld will be here for 2 months if they don’t update it

[hallow epoch]

cough most persona games

Perosna 3 gets an exception

[rancid bison]

I can understand that with designs like this, but that isnt the only designs in the game

[hallow epoch]

Genuinely good game

[loud sun]

craftopia is still in early access too

[hallow epoch]

Persona 5 was almost good

[loud sun]

and no one talks about it

until now

[hallow epoch]

Persona 4 is pretty whpleaome

Wholesorm

[rancid bison]

"Most of the designs are generic and derivative"

[loud sun]

hence why I said "most".
not "all". "most".

[hallow epoch]

Forst one is bowsee

[rancid bison]

Yr bowser

[river pewter]

you’re a derivative

[hallow epoch]

Last one is corvinight

[rancid bison]

Yr dericative

[loud sun]

THANK YOU

[river pewter]

yes I am delicate

[high rain]

Craftopia also sold very poorly because it wasn't a good game. IMO I am glad they've effectively abandoned Craftopia to make a game that is genuinely better.

[rancid bison]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-cat-stoned-stoned-cat-gif-25615600

[hallow epoch]

Armoured bird with beard

Theres more

[loud sun]

you... can't be serious, right?

[river pewter]

British person confirmed

[hallow epoch]

Canadian

[rancid bison]

I dont see it

[hallow epoch]

What did he do?!?!

[river pewter]

Bagged milk is a sin

[rancid bison]

I think youre just grabbing at straws

[hallow epoch]

He has blood around his mouth

[frigid minnow]

yall clearly giving it that much

[hallow epoch]

We dont even drink that

[rancid bison]

Lighten up man, Palworld is fine

[hallow epoch]

No

The ground textures look horrid

Like

Woese of s/v ground textures

[rancid bison]

Have you played a pokemon game

[high rain]

For real if over half the designs in Palworld showed up in the next Pokemon game they would be praised as some of the best designs since Gen 3. but because they are in Palworld they are low effort and derivative.

[river pewter]

What is your main source of drank then

[hallow epoch]

Never thought I would complement the ground of scarlet ciolet

[hallow epoch]

We drink milk in jugs

[rancid bison]

Also again Palworld is in early acess

This is a small taste

[hallow epoch]

I've only had bagged milk ONCE

[loud sun]

you're right.
I've been too soft.

[rancid bison]

There are gonna be bad graphics

[hallow epoch]

And I dont like it

[rancid bison]

Hey look its the same design i keep seeing all over twitter

[rancid bison]

Still dont understand this one

[river pewter]

Post a picture of your fridge with that jug of milk

I need proof

[high rain]

I think they are actually grabbing cherries. They're just going to pick out the ones that fit their idea and ignore the rest.

[hallow epoch]

We have cartons as well

And my dad is sleeping

So no

I cannot atm

[rancid bison]

No like yes there are some design that are very inspired

[hallow epoch]

He will hey pissed

[rancid bison]

But...

[loud sun]

"hAvE yOu PlAyEd ThE gAmE?"

[rancid bison]

Again some of them feel like a stretch

[high rain]

[hallow epoch]

Again

Looks generic

And ceappy

[river pewter]

He came back with the milk jug

[rancid bison]

I can understand 1 and 3 but 2 and 4 is just the same concept being used

[hallow epoch]

I'm going to kill you

[loud sun]

oh I haven't ignored the rest.

[hallow epoch]

Syvally arceus and absol in one

Esgey

[rancid bison]

I mean kinda if you squint and move back really far away

[river pewter]

All I know is Palworld is going to outsell Scarlet and Violet in the first week sales

[hallow epoch]

Hahahahha

[river pewter]

It’s day 3?

[high rain]

facts

[river pewter]

They’re at 6M or so rn

[river pewter]

S/V was like 10.2 mil

[rancid bison]

Just hoping they dont stay in ealry acsess too long

[loud sun]

don't kid yourself.
you know what happened to craftopia.

[rancid bison]

I have never heard or played craftopia

[loud sun]

ok then.
tell me why the ring exists on shadowbeak

[rancid bison]

But honestly it sucks for any game to stay in early acsess purgatory

[hallow epoch]

Stupid ass name

[high rain]

again craftopia sold like trash. The situation is not even remotely comparable.

[rancid bison]

It looks cool thats why

[rancid bison]

That is true Palworld's name sssssuuuuuucccckkkk

[loud sun]

ah, yes. the "rule of cool".
here's why the ring exists on arceus.

[hallow epoch]

My fakemon names are better

[frigid minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/stickergiant-blah-blah-blah-bla-bla-bla-yapping-chatterbox-gif-19605017

[hallow epoch]

🐇

[loud sun]

sorry buddy, but "because it looks cool" does not fly around here. especially for a final boss pal/mon.

[hallow epoch]

Bnnuy

[hallow epoch]

Idk, it has wings, I think it could fly (joke)

[rancid bison]

Ok

[loud sun]

look, even if pocketpals came out and admit that pocketpals didn't copy from any pokemon design, I'm still going to give them flack for most of their half-assed efforts.

[hallow epoch]

Yeah

Again

I think my fakemon are cooler

[high rain]

again the irony of this statement coming from a person who is making pokemon fusion art is intense

[rancid bison]

Ok lets not bring other peoples art into a convo about palworld

[rancid bison]

Ok

[loud sun]

at least for infinite fusion, there is thought and effort into making those fusions.
...also, WOW. this really goes to show how much you don't even know about pokemon infinite fusion, because there are actually really well designed fusemon in that game.

the pokemon in pokemon infinite fusion are fused together with a purpose.
they aren't slap-dashed.

[hallow epoch]

That's awsome

I dont see you're arguemnt

[rancid bison]

This got approved for MY SPRITER ROLE

[hallow epoch]

And that awesome

Silly creacher

[rancid bison]

Now yes my spritearting has gotten better

[high rain]

Oh I totally agree I love some of the designs in PIF. I just also acknowledge that the designs are simply taking aspects from two different things owned by Nintendo and then combining them in a new and interesting way... Kinda like Palworld does. I am not saying PIF is bad I am saying it makes absolutely no sense to defend PIF while attacking Palworld for doing the exact same thing.

[rancid bison]

But like designs like this are totally fine (another one of my sprites)

[loud sun]

palworld doesn't even have a fusion mechanic.
that's why everyone is pissed about the pals in the game looking like a bunch of low effort fusion designs.

plus, you dragged infinite fusion in here, even though that game has nothing to do with palworld.
so if you have anyone to blame in dragging infinite fusion in here, its you.

[rancid bison]

Not yet

It would be really cool to see like a mecahnic from Monster Rancher be in some shape or form in Palworld

[high rain]

Well that's not eniterly true but I am not going to argue the semantics there.
The point is you're critisizing the designs themselves for being unoriginal mashups of Pokemon despite contributing to a game that does exactly the same thing.

Also considering this is the PIF discord it seems relevent to the conversation being held here...

[loud sun]

you're missing the damn point.
the game is a steam game, whereas pokemon is a nintendo exclusive game.

[high rain]

that doesn't matter. Art is art.

[loud sun]

palworld is being sold
FOR MONEY.

Fangames? ARE FOR FREE.

that's the difference.

[rancid bison]

Cross bredding is a very interesting mecahnic in games and its every rarely shown with very good reason. One of my favorite games as a kiddy wink was this fish aquarium game that had a cross breeding mecahnic

[high rain]

and you aren't criticizing the game you are criticizing the art design specifically.

[loud sun]

I wish that pokemon was public domain, but until that happens, we're dealing with this and the legal trashfire this is causing.

[rancid bison]

So is pokemon and those games are allowed to be half baked

[high rain]

So if Pokemon was public domain then Palworld would be ok?

how does that change anything?

[loud sun]

Oh, so you're going to forget about crunch time?

[rancid bison]

Steamboat Willie just came into public domain and someone is already making a horror game, even if Pokemon was Palworld would probably still be a thing, maybe very heavy air quotes

[loud sun]

little palworld gets no crunch time and pokemon does.

[high rain]

how would Palworld be better if it was exactly the same but Pokemon was in public domain?

[rancid bison]

Palworld is from a nobody studio and they didnt have a previous audience, Gamefreak is a greedy ass company that doesnt care about its employees only that little Tommy gets his copy of Pokemon Violet for christmas

[loud sun]

you mean nintendo

[high rain]

I am so confused by this statement. Are you saying Pokemon is better because of unethical work conditions for actual real life human beings that work at Gamefreak?

[rancid bison]

Nintendo doesnt make Pokemon games

Nintendo only publishes them

GameFreak has full control on Pokemon

They can decide when each game releases

[loud sun]

i'm not saying that pokemon is better.

[high rain]

That is litterally what I just said...

[frigid minnow]

whatever

anyways

new topic?

[loud sun]

you think this is a gotcha moment, but let me be very, very clear.
if pokemon was in the public domain, then palworld can get away with most of their half baked designs.
Why? because then, the justification of those pals looking like that would be understandable.

[loud sun]

agreed. I'm tired of this.

I didn't want to get into this stupid petty internet war in the first place.

[rancid bison]

Anyways guys did you hear there was some lost media found recently
https://vxtwitter.com/snowwood_/status/1749859149213782300?t=cEvFlTopshFrccIyvTjqOw&s=19

[frigid minnow]

anyways did yall know

[hallow epoch]

No

[frigid minnow]

theres gonna be a new monster

hunter

game

[hallow epoch]

No

[frigid minnow]

Monster Hunter Wilds

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-mhw2-mhw-gif-15261886987224379055

idk if it will be good or not tbh

cuz it looks like its set all in one setting/area

i just hope its not another rise

[wicked crag]

Same man

[uneven carbon]

The rise like games are more side games by now
World was MH5 and Wilds is gonna be MH6 so itll be slower

[wicked crag]

Man, it would be cool if they brought back underwater combat

I doubt they will, though

[uneven carbon]

For anyone curious how you know whats a main game
The main MH games always have their number as dragon heads on their symbol

[rotund ridge]

THE MAN HIMSELF

[cold smelt]

another dog

[unborn tundra]

Yooo, ra zombi the best card

[rotund ridge]

Kernel

I meant my second gw2 main,kernel corn

My main main is power flower

[ancient siren]

does raichu attack get raised with light ball?

[modern horizon]

And then there’s me…. The guy who’s willing to go full on Omni-Man towards both PocketPair and Game Freak in a vain attempt to silence Palworld and Pokemon fanboys from going at each other’s throats

[twin oyster]

What

[modern horizon]

Look, all I see are Palworld and Pokemon fanboys lobbing death threats towards each other and it’s got me thinking “Maybe if the companies they worship cease to be, they can shut up for once”

[twin oyster]

I mean i just try to avoid it even though it's very very hard but i enough raged for two days

[modern horizon]

Too bad it’s literally impossible to avoid

[twin oyster]

For me idc about it so hard everything is flawed

[radiant otter]

Bruh now you're just sounding like an anime villain

[twin oyster]

XD

[modern horizon]

Well how would you get both sides to shut up?

[twin oyster]

It's impossible

Just ignore it

It's possible

[modern horizon]

That in itself is impossible

[twin oyster]

Nah

I don't use social media besides discord and it works wonder

[radiant otter]

If anything both company disappearing will just make things worse

[twin oyster]

Plus it will go down anyway

[modern horizon]

In what way? If anything, both sides would cheer that they won’t have to complain anymore

[twin oyster]

Of course now it's in everyone mouth but just give it a month and the internet is somewhere else

[radiant otter]

Both sides would just blame the other for the company disappearance

[twin oyster]

Imagine nintendo/gamefreak disappearing because of that game XD

True nintendo a company suing even a good cause because they used the name joy con

Or private people XD

Funny

[modern horizon]

See? Over time the internet would forget both companies if they ceased to be

[radiant otter]

For the love of arceus why are you so obsessed with making them disappear

[twin oyster]

Nintendo will never disappear

[radiant otter]

I first said it as a joke but now you're literally speaking like an anime villain

[twin oyster]

They want to take over the world

[modern horizon]

Because I’m tired of seeing nothing both death threats and being a Pokemon fan gives me the risk of being told to go die

[twin oyster]

Man

This is the internet

Tell me one controversy where it doesn't happen

At this point it's the circle of the internet

[radiant otter]

Pokemon fans are toxic, that a fact. Doesn't mean I want to see Pokemon game disappear.

[twin oyster]

Some are

But there are always bad apples

[modern horizon]

Thing is, I’d rather eradicate those telling me to go die than go die

And that usually means taking out the source

[twin oyster]

And then you take over the internet

[radiant otter]

bruh

[twin oyster]

So in your opinion there should be nothing?

Because if there is something people will fight

[modern horizon]

No controversy without anything to make controversy out of

[twin oyster]

???????

People will always complain

No matter what

[radiant otter]

I feel like I'm talking to the hand dude from my hero academia who think destroying the world because his dad was a jerk is a good idea.

[twin oyster]

So in your opinion toby fox should've pull the plug from undertale?

[radiant otter]

Like I get your point, but it doesn't need nor should go to those extreme.

[modern horizon]

Then how do I get people to stop telling me to go die?

And before you say block them, I tried, but that’s like trying to kill a hydra

[twin oyster]

Go off X

[radiant otter]

Just ignore and report them ?

[twin oyster]

There are many ways

[modern horizon]

Anyways, it’s way too late for me to continue this delusional rant of mine

[radiant otter]

By your logic I should have gone through a ton of rampage because of things I like.

[twin oyster]

Ngl i do

But at points idc anymore

[modern horizon]

I’m gonna knock myself out to sleep and hopefully feel better