fusions

[stiff sorrel]

It's probably cause its the old version of the generator

[valid frigate]

Ah

I didn't saw the newest

[hidden bison]

there is one more calc

anyways best thing to do is download it on your PC

and not use it through the internet

[valid frigate]

How can i download it ?

[hidden bison]

because the one on the net is a public calculator

once its open

top right File option

download as excel

[valid frigate]

OK thank you

[hidden bison]

of course you have to have excel to run it

its part of the Microsoft Office package

not everyone has it

[valid frigate]

I have it i'm lucky 😉

[hidden bison]

👍

[valid frigate]

Thank you tho 😃

[hidden bison]

np

the reason its locked to view only rn

is because it kept getting broken

cuz many people use it at once

if you download it its personal

so no such problems

[valid frigate]

Agree

[fossil trout]

Now that cute boy just needs to stay away from Dark moves👌

[jaunty ocean]

Hi everyone ! I'd like to ask a quick question. What ability results from a Slaking fusion ? Is Truant forced on the fusion or are we free to abuse Slaking's monstrous base stats ?

[nova sparrow]

go at it, truant is the same as any other abiltiy

[jaunty ocean]

Damn, that's pretty strong

I thought that there would be an exception, like the reversed ability of Azumarill and such

And with his HP stat Slaking is pretty tremendous as a head, he could get Huge Power from an Azumarill body. Truly frightening.

[hybrid cave]

i do not understand truant

how that works?

[nova sparrow]

truant makes every other turn not let you use moves

turn 1: move, turn 2: no move, etc

[hybrid cave]

struggle?

[nova sparrow]

there is... a very good reason why slaking has truant.

blue edoesn't even appear in any other pokemon's stats, thats how good it is without truant

[hybrid cave]

are there more pokemons with this trait?

ehm, is this gonna be a thing now?

140 att

fuk blissey on that point of vieuw

slaking fusions xD

total 679 stats

only weakness is fighting

[nova sparrow]

and blisseys ability cause truant shid

[hybrid cave]

truant shid?

[nova sparrow]

truant is complete shid

[hybrid cave]

well not i know how it exactly works

but if truant ist a must have under fusions

like u can take serenade grace

and still got these stats

[nova sparrow]

yea

shedin is the only linked abiltiy

[hybrid cave]

u mean shedinja is the only exception to delete truant?

[nova sparrow]

no

i mean

with shedinja

wonder guard puts any fusion

to 1 hp

no other abiltiy is like that

no other pokemon is like that

[hybrid cave]

ah

[candid raft]

i dont have excel, could someone calculate a fusion for me please?

[proud crane]

what it is

[candid raft]

i have a metang and a dratini im thinking of fusing

im just not sure if it would result in a stronger pokemon

[proud crane]

how do you feel about Dragon/Steel

or Dragon/Psychic

[candid raft]

i think dragon steel would be more up my alley

(both of my favorite types lol)

[proud crane]

Metagross head gives steel type, at the cost of slightly lower stats

the difference is small, and the typing and combined movepools surely make up for it

[candid raft]

thanks!

[distant dagger]

Has anyone done this yet?

Seems pretty broken

[shrewd plaza]

this is surprisingly not a custom

[brittle flume]

That mans needs no custom

He needs an award

[hidden bison]

He need his shell back

[flint loom]

@candid raft this version https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10XGFUSyw07qz4gD6l10QTrwy-vFKBV7fRpcv1GgAZbA/edit#gid=195129007 doesn't require you to use excel. you can use it online. Although it is a public version so many people could compete with you using it

[hybrid cave]

dragon steel

bastiodon dragonite

[nova sparrow]

uh

[brittle flume]

wrong spot m80

[flint loom]

well, kinda. This is a fusion so it kinda work here too

kinda >.>

[brittle flume]

perhaps

[nova sparrow]

its uh

not a very

[hidden bison]

Hi, I would have liked to know with whom merge salameche to have a good Pokémon? thank you

[hybrid cave]

steel type eleminates most elemantal weakness

bastiodon gives alot of defensive stats

if u make bastiodon as a body u can use dragonite for special def

[hidden bison]

Thanks, but I'm at the beginning of the game and I would love a Pokémon of early adventure, if possible

[hybrid cave]

well

one pokemon u need

blisnoir

very op

only element weakness is dark

is ghost normal type

pretty much meaning normal and fighting attacks do not hit it

so u dont need that much def on that point of vieuw XD

hp though

[hidden bison]

Salameche ?

which mon is that

[hybrid cave]

kek

[proud crane]

charmander

[hidden bison]

hmm charmander

[hybrid cave]

no

the other dragon type of newer generation

i think he meant that one

[hidden bison]

thats Salamence

[fathom venture]

no

[hidden bison]

its not in the game

[fathom venture]

salameche is charmander

[hybrid cave]

thats what i thought

[hidden bison]

well i wont be answering this question i think

cuz to me any fusion is good in some way

[hybrid cave]

unless u do it in the wrong following order

but truth be told

blisnoir is a god

[hidden bison]

i did 2 retard runs

do you think wrong order matters to me

[hybrid cave]

not it matters

but they would been better

[hidden bison]

well they can be better

but why not be satisfied with what you have

[hybrid cave]

cause u can be better

xD

[hidden bison]

right

there is truth to that too

[hybrid cave]

the actual fuk did i manage to do that

wich ground we gonna fight now?

[fossil trout]

I made a fat monstrosity with recovery and Ferrothorn's typing (+custom sprite)

[pallid pagoda]

man I made this beast sweeper but it looks so ugly, need a good custom sprite >_<

[flint loom]

Maybe ask on the spritework channel. Sometime some people are willing to take the challenge. It's not a sure thing though (since they do it for fun, they don't have any obligation)

The only way to be sure to get a custom sprite is to sprite it yourself though 😉

[pallid pagoda]

is there a guide/tutorial on how to sprite? I'd love to learn it and do it for other people too

[flint loom]

If you want a general guide on how to sprite there is some guide on the internet

like there: https://www.dragonflycave.com/spriting-guide

I think there is everything there is to know in there

The only missing information is that you can resize the sprite even if it say you shouldn't. You just need to use the correct software or settings to do it

And we do recomand here that you resize down the 288x288 sprite to 96x96 so you can work with 1px size brush

piskel is a good software (there is even an online version) for beginer I would say

the resize tool is already set the right way so you not gonna break your sprite

[pallid pagoda]

awesome thank you!!

[latent musk]

the best tips for spriting fusions imo are a) start from scratch, don't use the existing generated image as your base and b) always sprite at 96x96

[silver venture]

Starting from scratch isn’t good if you’re just starting out

[latent musk]

using a generated sprite as your base is basically asking for half pixels

but I mean not everyone does it the same way

[brittle flume]

i just use the bulbapedia sprites

[silver venture]

Well if you’re using generated sprites stop

But using base regular sprites isn’t starting from scratch

[latent musk]

oh, well I mean yeah

when I said starting from scratch I meant starting with the head and the body sprites and doing the whole thing without the generated ones

[silver venture]

I use db for all my sprites btw

[latent musk]

db?

[simple osprey]

Pokemondb.com, aka pokemondatsbase (or something like that)

[pallid pagoda]

ugh updating...I'm failing terribly at spriting...keep making mistakes...rage quit =_= I guess my Gyaraswine can stay ugly lol

[indigo marsh]

Sombody know a good nidoking fusion and a Pikachu fusion

[valid frigate]

Vaporeon / Nidoking (care x 4 dmg form grass)

but no other weakness

[indigo marsh]

Nice

[valid frigate]

If you take absorb water as ability you have an immunity to water type ^^

[indigo marsh]

Nice

Thx man

[valid frigate]

😃

[hidden bison]

if you want a more phys variant

Gyarados/Nidoking

Water/Ground as well

can get intimidate

as an ability

[indigo marsh]

And a Pikachu fusion?

[hidden bison]

slap on a Abra head

on the pikachu

and you got yourself a great special attacker

with Stab Psychic and Thunderbolt

[indigo marsh]

Cool

Thx

[hidden bison]

generally speaking there are so many fusions

so its hard to just recommend 1

[valid frigate]

Sure but vaporeon / nidoking is very tanky on both def stats

that depend on what is your gameplay ^^

[flint loom]

you shouldn't keep it as a pikachu though

There was evidence that the light ball doesn't work (there was few bug report about it)

[hidden bison]

Gyara/Nidoking is also tanky

well less HP tho

but good Sp.def decent Def + intimidate to lower the opponent's atk

and it can get Dragon Dance

Dragon Dance + Stab Aqua Tail and Earthquake

[valid frigate]

Sure it's more agressiv but u can do a big defensive set with vaporeon move pool*

[hidden bison]

should do quite well

true

thats why i said if you want a more Phys variant

[valid frigate]

Yep x)

[hidden bison]

heck Nidoking head on a Kingler Body would do wonders too

Poison/Water

great Def and Atk

[valid frigate]

Yes but u have more weakness with this double type ^^

[hidden bison]

so ?

[valid frigate]

Well i fact it's not a bad double type ^^

[hidden bison]

who cares about weaknesses

you can cover them with your other mons

as long as you dont have like 2-3 x4 weaknesses and 4-5 x2 weaknesses

its all good

1 x4 and 2-3 x2 weaknesses are acceptable

[valid frigate]

I took Vaporeon / Nidoking because i already have a monster in attack (Scizor)

[flint loom]

yeah, and if you are strong enough and quick enough, you can manage teh weaknesses by one shoting the oponent before it have the chance to exploit them =p

[hidden bison]

pure Scizor ?

[valid frigate]

And they are really good together

Yep

[hidden bison]

another person who is not using a fusion

dear god

[valid frigate]

x)

[flint loom]

Let them play the way they want Uni, that's one of the possibilities the game offer

[hidden bison]

well ye

i think Schrroms should bring the % boost back

[valid frigate]

Maybe with a yanmega

[hidden bison]

lets see them play with non fusions then

hah

[valid frigate]

For it's ability

Counpounded ayes

hum no

Tinted lens *

[flint loom]

In my opinion the % should be back only on same species fusion (and make same species fusion posisble again). That way you would have a reason to fuse the same species

[hidden bison]

Technician is better

[distant dagger]

It's also satisfying to have bigger stats

[flint loom]

well, it's depend on the move he planning to get

[valid frigate]

Ye but it's complicated to fuse scizor, bug always take the advantage

[flint loom]

what do you mean ? scizor head should give steel (I think)

[valid frigate]

Nop....

he only gives bug type :/

[hidden bison]

hm ?

[valid frigate]

like gyarados

[hidden bison]

pretty sure he should give steel as a head

did you try using it as both a head and body

save before fusing and test it

[valid frigate]

Oh hell ye

My bad

It works 😒

Well I thought there were a type dominance for bug ^^

Well i can do good things tho 😄

[hidden bison]

btw

[valid frigate]

Not beautiful x)

[hidden bison]

if you use Yanmega head

it will still end up as a Bug/Steel

because if the body and head give the same type

the body gives its other type

[valid frigate]

With turbo and sword dance it can be overpowerful x)

[flint loom]

be carefull of special attacker though or you might not survive the turn you are sword dancing

[valid frigate]

Ye ye i know

But i can switch in on a non fire type and non spe att pokemon and then set up

[hybrid cave]

shuckle chansey eviolite toxic and lots of healing moves :v

[hidden bison]

why lots

softboiled is enough

[hybrid cave]

cus

[hidden bison]

along with something for status effects

you can give it wrap too

[hybrid cave]

toxic is the only dmg move that actualy do dmg with that fusion

[valid frigate]

If a pokemon use taunt your pokemon is useless

[hidden bison]

to trap opponents

NPC's dont use Taunt very often

[valid frigate]

Yes x)

But a steel one can stop you

[hidden bison]

so ?

just dont use it vs Steel

[hidden bison]

simple as that

[hybrid cave]

attack 8

special att 20

27*

[hidden bison]

wrap does dmg per turn

[hybrid cave]

o yea

👍

[hidden bison]

only the initial hit takes the atk stat into account

[hybrid cave]

the only pokemon where wrap actual is usefull

wew

is there another move like wrap?

also

where u find tm wrap to begin with?

[hidden bison]

Shuckle learns it

[hybrid cave]

orl

woops

[hidden bison]

why do you think i said wrap

[hybrid cave]

idk, tm move

xD

wait a moment

hail

well

sandstorm

sandstorm is possible right?

[hidden bison]

i mean its possible but why ?

[hybrid cave]

toxic sandstorm wrap

[hidden bison]

why not refresh

[hybrid cave]

no idea what it does

[hidden bison]

to cure your status ailments

so if you get poisoned

you use refresh

and you are not poisoned

[hybrid cave]

ok

so

toxic sandstorm, or toxic wrap

[hidden bison]

Toxic,Wrap,Refresh,Softboiled

thats what i think

[hybrid cave]

only thing i hate is that they use full restore instead of max potion at elite four

but k

wrap has better pp right?

[hidden bison]

i mean you are the one choosing to use a mon like that

20 pp

[hybrid cave]

interesting

actualy

nevermind

how bout this? :v

has atleast att xD

m actualy searching for a good non evolved pokemon to fuse with shuckle for eviolite

so far chansey seems the best but wonder if there would be better ones

magmar seems best giving magmortar

[hybrid cave]

what u think bout this for eviolite giving weakness

flying type is most dangerious one here xD

[hidden bison]

37 hp

thats just a worse shuckle

even with the eviolite

[hybrid cave]

not sure since it has attack tbh

not the highsest attack

but most weakness lays mostly in special def

wich is very high in exchange

so bout that point it might even better value

but i do understand ur point though

even if it has less hp, if u see that most physical is either normal or below 0.5 effective

just need to make sure i give up speed for more special def in nature

this is my current set atm

lotta tank meta :v

[hidden bison]

2 pseudos

1 legend

[hybrid cave]

pseudos?

[hidden bison]

Pseudo legendaries

Dragonite and Tyranitar

[hybrid cave]

ah

but not going tyranitar

[hidden bison]

using alot of OP mons is see

[hybrid cave]

just pupitar for eviolite

[hidden bison]

ye Pupi

[hybrid cave]

1.5multiplyer to that special def

:x

also

not sure bout the move

[nova sparrow]

on a defensive mon?

[hybrid cave]

it just doubles the dmg it receives

[nova sparrow]

mm

[hybrid cave]

so eventualy it always deals more dmg

but

shuckle and hp

[nova sparrow]

but you sjouldnt be damaged much anywaysd

[hybrid cave]

yea

except on flying type

xD

any advice bout elemental weakness btw?

of my current set

technicaly

is it possible i can learn it 1 hit ko move

?

just gotta boost accuracy for it mostly right?

[hybrid cave]

does not look too bad tbh

just gotta change its nature

this is absoluut bs tbh

[warped turret]

Wow

[hybrid cave]

ikr

the only issue i got on her is that i need attack tms for this pokemon

ah

this bitch has double team too :v

atm that is

need better tm's

thunder punch would be nice i think

[warped turret]

Dusknoir learns the elemental punches with move reminder

[white pewter]

I'd go with return. Max 102 power with stab

[hybrid cave]

any place possible to buy pp up?

oops not in general xD

[hybrid cave]

might be not zubat at all :v

still gonna reach perhaps 200 hp at cap lvl with lots of sp def n def

[brittle flume]

Any sugestions for an electruc type

[proud crane]

What's available at your point in the game? Pikachu's pretty solid. Magnemite is great, but it's probably more popular as a Steel type than as an Electric type.

[brittle flume]

Im near fushia

[proud crane]

Jolteon's pretty good, Electabuzz is nice (you can trade an Eevee for one in Celadon I believe), Ampharos is cool, Electrode exists.

[brittle flume]

Wheres ampharos

[kindred cobalt]

i'd always suggest buzz for a fusion tbh, large range of moves, fairly mixed stats

[proud crane]

I forget where you get Mareep.

[brittle flume]

Fak

Can u get more than 1 eevee with out breeding

[proud crane]

I think you can find wild Eevee in the Secret Garden

It's in route 1 on the upper east side

[brittle flume]

Cool

U need cut right

[proud crane]

nope

[brittle flume]

Ooooooo

And

Is girafarig in the game

[paper linden]

yes

[brittle flume]

Where

[paper linden]

idfk

[brittle flume]

Damn

[tepid sable]

Mareep is to the right of Surge's town

[warm jolt]

A fusion between beedrill and nidoking what type is? (Beedrill's head and nidoking body)

[hidden bison]

Bug ground

^

[warm jolt]

Can someone say to me how element work in a fusion like zubat/cloyster for example?

[hidden bison]

1st type of the head

2nd type of the body

so Poison/Ice

if the body gives the same type as the head

for example Zubat/Bellsprout

the bellsprout part will give grass instead

so it will still be Poison/Grass

[warm jolt]

Thanks you!

So a jigglypuff and a butterfree is normal/fly?

[hidden bison]

yes if jiggly is the head

[warm jolt]

Now i understand

[hidden bison]

there are a few exceptions to this tho

some mons only give 1 type always

and some mons give their types reversed

like magnemite

it gives steel as a head

cuz of the silvery coloring it gives

[pallid ore]

@warm jolt check #fusion-faq
it has everything you need regarding fusing

[warm jolt]

Ok thanks u all

[flint loom]

Also, if you have a pokemon poison/fly as the head and a pure poison as the body
The head give the first type, then the body try to give it's type. Although poison is already there.
So the result will be pure poison
Zubat/muk = pure poison

In other word, the head never give it's second typing. ever

[warm jolt]

Ok thank u

[pallid pagoda]

there are exceptions, look under #fusion-faq

like starter and legendary birds always take primary element...etc. go check out the faq

[warm jolt]

i have a question,

if i put in a pokemon house a mewtwo fused with a normal pokemon for example a rattata with a ditto will i have eggs?

if yes whick egg will i have?

can u explain me how work pokemon house in infinite fusion?

thanks

[hidden bison]

never tried using the Daycare

so breeding is a mystery for me

just try it out yourself

[warm jolt]

ok

so u dont know if we can have infinity mewtwo?

xD

[hidden bison]

i mean its possible

but i doubt it

if the egg can be a fusions

then maybe it will end up being half mewtwo

if not then it will most likely hatch into one of the halves of whoever the mother mon is

thats my assumption at least

but idk

[warm jolt]

Hope it will be

[flint loom]

I never try breeding in infinit fusion. But is your mewtwo rattata have a gender ?

If it doesn't then I assume you won't have egg at all

[upbeat rampart]

Don't know where to to put this so here works I guess

[simple osprey]

C H O N K

[nova sparrow]

nyoom

[sand zephyr]

i doubt it'll be possible to breed mewtwo because tis in the undiscovered egg group so that may be the factor that prevent breeding toher then gender as well

[lucid plank]

that's less of a ❤ and more of 😦

[paper linden]

i'd happily have that boye

[lucid plank]

let me have a look on that thing on the calculator

[paper linden]

i love forretress

[lucid plank]

I'm not a huge fan of that thing

:C

[paper linden]

someone just posted a pic of them climbing a wall in the s.s. anne

in #overworld-bug-reports

then deleted it almost immediately

and it's back

[lucid plank]

okay it's not that bad

[paper linden]

bug grass tho

oof

[lucid plank]

Cries in flames

welp wondertraded it away

HA that name

such a noodle

[nova sparrow]

noodle babey

[paper linden]

bee make noodle

give babby wings

[nova sparrow]

will do

[lucid plank]

I made my own weird bee fusion

btw I'm bad at spriting

[paper linden]

i have no bee but this is close enough

it has the colour scheme

ima do a new randomizer

fug it

[lucid plank]

wtf wondertrade gave me something fun

Dino you might like it

LUL

I'm dying

[paper linden]

yessss

[nova sparrow]

ree

[paper linden]

;)

y'all see this

[lucid plank]

TRASH

[paper linden]

you can change the pc it's amazing

[lucid plank]

POG

[nova sparrow]

cromple wing babey

[lucid plank]

Aww

that's adorable

[paper linden]

omgod yeeeees

put in #sprite-gallery and share the smol winger

[nova sparrow]

like you know butterfly out of conocn

tht

[paper linden]

i "forgot" to backup my old save ;)

[lucid plank]

HUEHUE

[paper linden]

huehue?

[lucid plank]

PogChamp

sure

[paper linden]

huehue

[lucid plank]

"fun"

[paper linden]

since when did papyrus have skin

[lucid plank]

he killed gary

and is now using his skin

[paper linden]

i don't even care what the other options are

[lucid plank]

NYE HE HE HE HE HE! !!

[paper linden]

i didn't even check

sandslash my lad

[lucid plank]

Sandslash is pretty freakin' awesome

[paper linden]

:)))

undertale run

[lucid plank]

NO

YOU DID NOT

[paper linden]

time to see what gay got

gary*

[lucid plank]

GAY

[paper linden]

I DIDNT <EAN TO

I SWEAR

[lucid plank]

btw

[paper linden]

marie sends you the suck

time to see

i predict spritomb arceus

[lucid plank]

WOW

[paper linden]

WAIT WHAT TH EFUCK

I GOT ONE RGIHT

I THAS SPRITIMB

[lucid plank]

Look I got the head to that onix

wait

other way around

I got the body to that onix

[paper linden]

i genuinely wonder who'll win

[lucid plank]

Oh stall him

[paper linden]

sand attack time ;)

[lucid plank]

GG

thanks santa

[paper linden]

WHY IS THIS WORKING

[lucid plank]

'cause you're good?

[paper linden]

you feel your sins crawling across your back

[lucid plank]

Oh days like these, fusions like you should be burning in hell

[paper linden]

fr doe imagine if i get a cubone

[lucid plank]

Cubone x Sandslash?

[paper linden]

yees

[lucid plank]

Epic

[paper linden]

ima go to #playthrough-talk

[lucid plank]

good idea

[hybrid cave]

a god is born

this is a true monster js

[hidden bison]

Return ?

[hybrid cave]

why return?

[hidden bison]

Stab

very powerful

or you just want serene grace procs with the punches

[hybrid cave]

:x

what doest kill u makes u stronger? :x

[nova sparrow]

why eq tho

[hybrid cave]

why not?

[nova sparrow]

why do you need eq on a ghostnormal type

ehats the poitn

[hybrid cave]

cause why not?

my tm items are pretty limited xD

and for ghost normal type my best offensive stat is attack and not special attack

so yea why not

[nova sparrow]

but

returns

physical

[hybrid cave]

idk what it does 100%

also i dont think i got that move

[nova sparrow]

i bet theres a return tutor

[hidden bison]

Return deals more damage the more your mon likes you

and seeing that its a blissey it must have high hapiness

[hybrid cave]

😮

[hidden bison]

i think its power caps out at around 106 or something

which is more than EQ

• its stab

so it will do more damage than EQ to neutral targets

[hybrid cave]

what bout acuracy?

[hidden bison]

100 acc

[hybrid cave]

nice

[hidden bison]

EQ's only advantage is its type

Ground is a great offensive type

[hybrid cave]

but eq is proly better also in hitting multiple pokemons

2v2

[nova sparrow]

it's 102 or 108

why are you fighting double battles tho

[hybrid cave]

well

[hidden bison]

i mean i dont say change EQ

[hybrid cave]

its not i do it often

but some just do

xD

i just like the move and i atleast got it as a tm

n i atleast got 3 different elements as move

[white pewter]

Return caps at 102 power

[hybrid cave]

element?

[white pewter]

Frustration is the same but gradually gets worse cause your mon starts to like you

Normal type

[hybrid cave]

i rather go ground for 2 points

[hybrid cave]

togetwo lvl 83, still is togetic instead of togekiss :c

stats are nice though

[rapid wind]

it evolves by using shiny stone

[hybrid cave]

o

oooooooooooo

keeeel meeeee

[rapid wind]

you can get a shiny stone from somebody in saffron city somewhere

in a house

[hybrid cave]

o

thats a

bigger boost XD

tht special attack boost

+86

still gonna think its gonna be a funny pokemon with eviolite somehow xD

[marsh falcon]

You evil, evil man

[brittle flume]

If i get another ds

I will be hell in doubles

[hybrid cave]

lol

that level up though

[hidden bison]

lots of defense

[hybrid cave]

yea

has many physical weaknesses though

think its a better nature somehow

ok

wtf

is this fusion pokemon

i mean look at previous image of this, its only 9 lvls difference and the special def raises like crazy

47points more in special defence out of 9 lvls???

well if i devided 47 by 9 then multiple to 38

his total special def gonna be

511

n i do eviolite xD

m only afraid of flying type pokemon in the future on this pokemon

[sand zephyr]

what type is taht

[sand zephyr]

o

uhh #français ?

its fine

[hybrid cave]

527 hp with nice def and special def XD

takes 60 dmg, leftovers heal 32 dmg XD

elite four

^only weakness is fairy

[hybrid cave]

first pokemon lvl 100

[timid blaze]

gg

[hidden bison]

exactly 400 def

eh

nice round number

[hybrid cave]

yea xD

[timid blaze]

could you say me how to find a multi exp?

[hybrid cave]

ah

koga gym

[hidden bison]

Exp.All ?

[timid blaze]

oh

[hybrid cave]

when u go from lavender town

[hidden bison]

Fuscha city's right exit

[hybrid cave]

^

[hidden bison]

the small section between the city and the route

you can go on the 2nd floor there

[hybrid cave]

u need to have self fused 20 pokemons to get

i just keep beating the elite four atm for exp

and money

[timid blaze]

ok i have beat koga i return to fushia city^^

[hidden bison]

it should give TP as well right ?

you dont have to beat Koga

as soon as you reach Fuscha you can get it

[hybrid cave]

not koga itself no, just the location

[hidden bison]

as long as you have fused pokemon 20 times

[timid blaze]

i was in bicycle route^^

[hidden bison]

👍

[timid blaze]

multi xp is in route 15 or in fushia city?

[hybrid cave]

in between

theres a building on the right side to leave the city

its that building itself u need to be

upstairs

[timid blaze]

it's near to fushia city ?

[hybrid cave]

yes

but like close to the exit of the city

[timid blaze]

oh ok i find fused 20 pokemon x)

[hybrid cave]

x)

not find

[hidden bison]

you have to fuse 20 pokemon

not find

[hybrid cave]

'create'

[timid blaze]

oh

x)

i fused 3 pokemon i'm dissapointed XD

[hybrid cave]

XD

second pokemon lvl 100

tbh

these stats are unrealistic for that much hp

[timid blaze]

it's impossible to beat this pokemon XD

[hybrid cave]

XD

leftovers heals this pokemon like 35 hp

[hidden bison]

its possible

anything can get killed

[hybrid cave]

u need a pure dmg type to kill this one

[hidden bison]

ye a shedinja fusion can destroy it

cuz your moveset

[hybrid cave]

u sure? :x

[hidden bison]

same goes to alot of toxic users

another tanky mon with toxic can kill it

[hybrid cave]

bich has fire move

[hidden bison]

and ?

shedinja gives ghost

[hybrid cave]

its fire element

[hidden bison]

not only bug

[hybrid cave]

it hits

[hidden bison]

it wont if the shedinja fusion is part ghost

[hybrid cave]

it hits ghost

just saying

[hidden bison]

Wonder Guard my friend

[hybrid cave]

ah

[hidden bison]

you cant hit it

[hybrid cave]

what does wonder gaurd do?

[hidden bison]

you can only be hit by super effective attacks

which you wont have vs certain fusions

a Slacking/Shedinja is only weak to Dark

so it cant get hit by anything but dark or status moves

or stuff like field effects

which you dont have

[hybrid cave]

well i got umbnoir for that :x

[hidden bison]

well ye and for umbnoir something else can come out

im saying there is no immortal pokemon

everything has a counter

[timid blaze]

yes but counter is limited for this^^

[hidden bison]

umbnoir wont enjoy a Magnezone/Articuno

Lock-On

[hybrid cave]

i know theres no immortal, but lets face it, blissnoir leaves u alot of choices out

[hidden bison]

Sheer Cold

2 turns and its dead

[hybrid cave]

eh aint that a 1 hit ko move?

but 30% acuracy though

[hidden bison]

ye but it can miss

thats why Lock-On

1st turn

so that the next move wont miss

[hybrid cave]

ah

nice

[hidden bison]

or instead of articuno you can go for another Sheer Cold user

like Dewgong for example

its gonna be Steel/Water

so better type than Steel/Ice

[hybrid cave]

laprior of mine could get it

but i was like

30 acc

5 pp

nah

[hidden bison]

i mean its an almost useless move

without Lock on or something

[hybrid cave]

yea

[hidden bison]

so ye no point in getting it normally

but a Perish Song fusion can kill your bulky bois too

[hybrid cave]

thats true

[hidden bison]

something like a Wobuffet/Lapras for example

Shadow Tag

[hybrid cave]

especialy if u are slow on turn

[hidden bison]

Perish song

its tanky enough to survive 3 turns

and you switch out last turn

your oponnent dies

[hybrid cave]

if they not switch

more like a last pokemon move

[hidden bison]

no if you use perish song and switch out on the 1 turn left

your opponent will die

since you have shadow tag and he cant switch

unless he kills you

[hybrid cave]

ah

nice

how to abuse perish song xD

but 3 turns though

[hidden bison]

thats why i suggested Wobbuffet/Lapras

its very tanky

high HP and decent defenses

[hybrid cave]

well mine is tanky too

needs still 25 lvls

[hidden bison]

i mean thats the problem

if yours was an attacker

it has a chance to survive

but its more of a tank

[hybrid cave]

it does have 228 attack atm

[hidden bison]

the Wobbuffet/Lapras can easily survive 3 turns agains your tanky mons

[hybrid cave]

and due low spd

i thought

[hidden bison]

since it has access to healing moves also

[hybrid cave]

imma teach the move payback

[hidden bison]

Aqua ring

it can use Dive to stall 1 turn

give it leftovers too

or rest

[hybrid cave]

only got one leftovers

atm

and if u take rest u better have snore too

current move set

its not i got much of tm's

[hidden bison]

payback

hmm

[hybrid cave]

interesting move for this slow speed

[hidden bison]

well ye

it does work i guess

its dark Revenge essentially

can you learn revenge ?

[hybrid cave]

not sure

[hidden bison]

instead of Hammer Arm

hammer arm had like 100 power right ?

revenge would have 120 if you get hit before attacking

[hybrid cave]

dont have revenge

[timid blaze]

i hate poison pokemon with levitate in aventure XD

[hybrid cave]

make a fairy steel type for toxicness :v

[hidden bison]

well ye its a good combo

Dark/Poison with levitate has no weaknesses

[hybrid cave]

only poison with levitate is weezing

[hidden bison]

and weezing makes a good body

[hybrid cave]

but alot of elements falls under normal amount of dmg

[hidden bison]

has great Def

[timid blaze]

i have fairy steel but is low lvl because i've got in miracle exchance ^^

[hybrid cave]

steel grants u alot of 0.5 dmg received

this pokemon makes me cry somehow XD

at lvl 100 it gonna reach 500 special def

[timid blaze]

it's metrill pokemon steel fairy^^

[hybrid cave]

interesting

this is ur result

486 total stats is quite low but since speed is low it let it proly count atleast in the most important stats

@timid blaze

[timid blaze]

hmmm it's good pokemon^^

[hybrid cave]

many 0.5 effective on u

+2 imuunitys

[timid blaze]

i think good in aventure no?

[hybrid cave]

everything has pros and cons

i just believe it has more pros then cons xD

think best nature for it should be -speed + def

since most weakness lays in def

[timid blaze]

i have +defense - spé atk

[hybrid cave]

special attack is higher then normal attack though

but if ur not using special moves

i guess ur k

[timid blaze]

yes because two physical pokemon^^

[hybrid cave]

even then u can have special moves though

u just gotta look on the symbol on the move set

but since its only 2 points different

and speed is very low

if u change nature on the fire gym location (wich room u gotta unlock by following some lore)

u can atleast use both physical and special move sets

speed on that fusion ist realy much of a benefit since many pokemons surpass it

thats why its best - speed

[timid blaze]

ok i guess but in aventure is'nt very important and i can move water type type fairy type psyhic type and iron type is strong i guess^^

[hybrid cave]

yea but every element has physical and special moves xD

be carefull with that

[timid blaze]

yes but i have 34 attack and 35 sp atk lvl 24 is not very big difference^^

[hybrid cave]

eh

weird

giving nature that ur sp atk is still higher then attack xD

well u just gotta get 6 good pokemons for elite 4

so u can easly grind and lvl all other pokemons kek

[timid blaze]

i have beegeot, bellem and nidoizard and soon i fused dratini and ghastly i think^^

[hybrid cave]

just a lil information

dragon steel

has not many weakness neither

but its mostly physical type

[timid blaze]

yes but i want a dragon ghost is strong i think

[hybrid cave]

ill check

got any 2 pokemons u wanna fuse for that element?

oof

nevermind ask

readed

[timid blaze]

yes^^

dratini and ghastly^^

[hybrid cave]

dragon ghost is equaly strong towards pros n cons

[timid blaze]

i don't understand pros and cons x)

[hybrid cave]

5 weakness but 6 elements half effective

5 elements deal twice as much dmg

6 elements half that much

and has 2 imuunitys

[timid blaze]

oh

[hybrid cave]

this i mean

[timid blaze]

it's a lot five weakness^^

[hybrid cave]

yea

and what concerns me most of this is

that the stats are very offensive

but not the best defensive

n hp is also quite low

speed is high though

so u proly get first move

[timid blaze]

hmmmm

[hybrid cave]

wel

depends wich one of the 2 u use as head

[timid blaze]

it's good but is't to weak for many pokemon^^

[hybrid cave]

it is actualy

it has many weakness

but it also has many positive sides

many pokemon can learn more then 2 elements

[timid blaze]

hmmm i don't have idea for fused dragonite or gengar :/

[hybrid cave]

perhaps ur better off, statwise with this fusion, all though it depends if u mind speed

u got still one stat with high offensive move

but atleast u can take more blows

[timid blaze]

but maybe i fused with salamence if in a game?

[hybrid cave]

salamance i think is not yet released

cant find it in publick fusion calculator so

[timid blaze]

ok what you advice me for complete my team with beegeot,bellem,nidoizard and metrill?

[hybrid cave]

it depends what element u go for though

i just think for ghost dragon type u might be better off this fusion due u got both offensive and defensive stat

[timid blaze]

i have bug fly fire poison steel fairy and rock grass

[hybrid cave]

wew

bug fly

[timid blaze]

yes

[hybrid cave]

imma check that

think if u realy want that combo

giving pros n cons

that ur better off spd offensive stats

what u think of this one?

hp is fair, attack is high, def is fair, special def is more then fair but speed is very high

[timid blaze]

i have beegeot with modest^^

hmmm crobat heracross is good

[hybrid cave]

same element

but the fusion i give has everything higher

total stat difference says enough

88 stats differences

[timid blaze]

yes but i don't find heracross for the moment^^

[hybrid cave]

u can always go upperfloor of pokemon center to reshufle pokemon, incase of need

just for some info

fire poison

best take weezing due levitate

imuun to ground

[timid blaze]

yes but with weezing is to ugly XD

i prefere nidoizard XD

[hybrid cave]

agree xD but yea this is like stats best choice

biggest weakness lay in special bout elements

but giving special attack

[timid blaze]

yes but i prefere my fusions XD

[hybrid cave]

well i guess i missunderstood this

[timid blaze]

y es i guess XD

and i fused crabot with heracross to remplaced my beegeot i think^^

crobat*

[hybrid cave]

k x)

[timid blaze]

and for two more pokemon i have no idea x)

[hybrid cave]

so u asked wich elements u better add to complete party?

[timid blaze]

yes and think about my team of four pokemon

[hybrid cave]

ill

see

brb gonna pee

[timid blaze]

i miss two pokemon and i don't know by what pokemon complete XD

[hybrid cave]

m looking atm at ur weaknesses

well u say 2 to complete but here i dont read ghost dragon type

so ur basicaly looking for one more?

@hidden bison

[timid blaze]

yes it is

[hybrid cave]

ok

[timid blaze]

i have two places for pokemon^^

[hybrid cave]

actualy one so far i read

u dont have a ghost dragon type yet

or u just did not name it xD

[timid blaze]

no i don't have ^^

i have just i say before^^

4 pokemon without dragon ghost^^

[hybrid cave]

ah k

that way

[timid blaze]

you find? x)

[hybrid cave]

here i show u how i work xD

to see what u avoid best

better try to avoid fusions that create weakness to
ground, fire, ice, rock

dragon steel has no weakness to fire so far i know, gonna check

ground is a issue still

[timid blaze]

hmmmm

but i have a steel

[hybrid cave]

grass water u should be able to efford

[timid blaze]

i have grass type^^

i want other type that my four pokemon for cover more that possible pokemon

[hybrid cave]

well it depends elements

i just look elements for now first

all though

[timid blaze]

bescause i have eight element in my team^^

[hybrid cave]

imma look shedinja ghost

water ghost is possible

normaly if u fuse shedinja u can take trait of 1hp

got 4 weakness though