#fusions

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exotic finch
nova sparrow
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bell boy!

exotic finch
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yaaaaas

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mats

stiff sorrel
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Gah, he got a beldum

nova sparrow
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belbel

tough tendon
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belm

nova sparrow
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belll

acoustic beacon
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@paper linden no I didn't make it

nova sparrow
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oh lawd he comin

upbeat rampart
lunar oyster
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We got gen 3?

proud crane
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bits of it

loud parrot
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I just realised that if you fuse a tauros and anything from the machamp line, you get a line of minotaur

cursive mesa
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Great discovery

last zenith
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What is this anime club bullshit I just want pokemon man

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Sad homies feeling sorry for themselves

rapid wind
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wa

pallid ore
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just skip conversations if they don't matter to you. thats like the first thing you'll learn on the internet if you dont wanna waste time

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oh hey this is fusions, oof

broken field
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I need ideas, what would work well with Feraligatr

proud crane
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Marill, Dratini or Gyarados, for Aqua Tail

fathom venture
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parasect for awesome design and crabhammer

lone pivot
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Plus dry skin ability

fathom venture
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yeah

hidden onyx
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has anybody figured out the theoretical best pokemon in fusion?

untold schooner
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The thing I always thought of was a normal/ghost Blissey/Shedinja fusion with wonder guard

distant dagger
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Considering there are so many pokemon, there probably isn't one single pokemon without any counters

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Also, wonder guard automatically gives the fusion 1HP, so Blissey's HP would be completely wasted on Shedinja

indigo marsh
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Whho knows some cool fusions white wartortle?

fallen patio
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i used alatortle

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use any head that is a special attacker

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will work fine

indigo marsh
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Who can u send a screenshot?

fallen patio
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you press prt sc

indigo marsh
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Sorry

fallen patio
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or you press alt+prt sc

indigo marsh
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I mean can u send a screenshot

fallen patio
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of alatoise?

indigo marsh
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Yes

fallen patio
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be a sec

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cant find it

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ill try harder

indigo marsh
fallen patio
indigo marsh
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Cool

fallen patio
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strength

indigo marsh
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?

fallen patio
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if you would like a sprite ask the spriters in spritework

indigo marsh
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I dont understand sorry

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Iam dutch

simple osprey
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Leuk

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Nog meer kaaskopjes

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@indigo marsh Om je vraag te beantwoorden, elke pokemon die de HM strength kennen kunnen de steen verschuiven

fallen patio
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stan wet ere vere daing

simple osprey
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The fuck

fallen patio
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richard

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its not true

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its bull

cursive mesa
cursive mesa
sharp orchid
flint loom
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I am a bit late for the party but I don't think there is a "best theoretical fusion". I mean, we can figure our which fusion have the higher total stats and even find which typings are the best. But overall, all fusion will have weaknesses they can't completely cover and therefore are susceptible to death by other pokemons. In other words, since every fusion can be counter, None can get the "best" label.

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That being said, if you consider legendaries. The closest to a best fusion is probably a fusion between two of those. If you don't concider legendaries, a fusion with blissy head is a strong contestant to edge that title.

white pewter
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Shedinja/Scizor with wonderguard can only be hurt by fire if you're looking at weaknesses

flint loom
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Sure, but shedinja only have one hp, which make it succeptible to die really easy to a lot of things (like hail, sand storm, willo wisp etc..)

jaunty briar
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this is, mmhm, very interesting

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Shedinja and BLISSEY

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high hp and low hp make medium hp

fathom venture
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doesn't work

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fusions with wonder guard always have 1 hp

fathom venture
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lol

jaunty briar
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Much to learn, you still have

vale gale
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Which is better, water/fire or electric/flying?

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Just got an Eevee, it be the body of a Charmander-Eevee fusion or the head?

nova sparrow
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itll be fire eithre way

vale gale
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Evolution.

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When it is a Charizard, it'll be Normal-Flying/Fire-Normal, right?

nova sparrow
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as a chari too

vale gale
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Why?

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How to evolutions work?

hidden bison
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Charizard always gives fire

vale gale
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Oh.

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Okay then, thanks for that info.

hidden bison
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if you intend to do a Eevee/Charmander fusion

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evolve eevee into Vaporeon

vale gale
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I know.

hidden bison
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Vaporeon/Charizard is very good

vale gale
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I need the stone, though.

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Where do I find them?

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Wait - why is Eevee the face?

nova sparrow
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levels

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body should be higher level

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but face eevee is god

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good

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so its fine

vale gale
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I thought the body was lower level.

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"(1) When Fusing two pokémon, the lower-leveled pokémon will become the body" @nova sparrow

nova sparrow
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thats not right

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i had to train a level 6 larvitar to level 20 to use it as the body in a azumatar fusion

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did you read the bit at the top

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sayign

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"THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY ACCURATE AS OF 4.1.1"

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remember that?

vale gale
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Okay, but, kind of annoying.

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Blaze or Adaptability?

nova sparrow
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adapt

vale gale
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Thanks.

pallid ore
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You can get super splicers later that fuse based on the order you select them and DNA reversers that switch the body parts

hidden bison
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Super Splicers also make you lose less levels when unfusing

proud crane
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fixed fusion faq. higher level is indeed the body

median cargo
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For the guy mentioning the 'best' Fusions earlier, here's the 'current' Top 10 Heads/Bodies (that aren't Pseudo/Legendary):

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Heads: Blissey 465, Chansey 390, Vaporeon 335, Snorlax 335, Togekiss 320, Lapras 310, Slaking 310, Gardevoir 308, Slowking 305, Wailord 305.

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Bodies: Slaking 360, Cloyster 345, Leafeon 335, Kingler 320, Steelix 315, Gliscor 315, Rhyperior 310, Pinsir 310, Weavile 310, Tauros 305.

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All other Fusion Materials have less than 300 Head/Body Stat Totals.

boreal rampart
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Togekiss head can give Serene Grace so that's a thing

median cargo
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So VaporLeafeon (or SyLeafeon, when Sylveon comes out) is a Flawless Fusion (higher Base Stat Total than either Fusee, 570 IIRC) and Blissey/Cloyster has been replaced by Blissey/Slaking as the Top Fusion (or Blissey/Arceus if you include Legendaries), but again, Normal/Ice-type and Pure Normal-type... kinda SUCK. Arceus could get you a Normal/Ghost that's only vulnerable to Dark...

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Either way, maximum BST is now ~677, only beaten out by Legendaries Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-Oh and Arceus.

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Granted, that's mostly because Blissey has only a 75 Body Stat Total to contribute. Vaporeon might change that, but I'll wait until more Generations start coming in.

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And Blissey can ALSO give Serene Grace, though I'm not sure if Blissey and Cloyster/Slaking/Arceus have a decent number of "Chance To Cause X" Moves in their Learnsets or not...

distant dagger
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The thing is, bst isnt the only thing that makes a pokemon good. You should also looks at types, abilities and movesets. Thats the entire reason theres no "best" fusion, there will always be a counter. Also, I wouldnt wait on further gens to be added, the chance thats going to happen is very small (schromms is pretty much already using rpg makers maximum potential)

rapid wind
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geez the mewmega has speed boost too

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lances mewmega is way better than dragonite

rapid wind
hidden bison
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i see nothing wrong 👀

paper linden
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catch it and name it Zubuff

rapid wind
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trainer battle

paper linden
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steal it and name it zubuff

rapid wind
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i cant itll use mean look on me

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if you saw the video

paper linden
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yeah

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i regret

rapid wind
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i dont feel like making it but i have to

paper linden
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i think someone would be happy to do it

rapid wind
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nope i must do it

silver venture
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Garchomp/Lucario> other stuff

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Only reason I beat Lance tbh

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Weavile/Dugtrio is scary

flint loom
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Moonwatcher you murderer ! you chop off the limbs of those poor pokemons

paper linden
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moon didn't do it sadly

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they're pre-cut

rapid wind
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im making something else instead of that rn

jaunty briar
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Moon pre-cut them

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ok

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ok then he definitely pre cut them

shrewd plaza
gentle oriole
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Lol

sharp orchid
rapid wind
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oh

sharp orchid
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I was doing a randomizer nuzlocke and this abomination appears in the gym

hidden bison
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lol

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be glad its a Mawile head

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it really lowers the stats of the fusion

sharp orchid
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There was also a mawile tangrowth one which was equally as terrifying

hidden bison
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Steel Gym ?

sharp orchid
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Yup

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It was a tangrowth mawile and a Meganium scizor

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Both were pains in the ass to fight

hidden bison
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did you have a mon that covers Steel ?

sharp orchid
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No, but luckily they decided to do non-damaging moves which helped me wittle them down with Night Shade

hidden bison
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ye its always nice when the AI has a brain fart

sharp orchid
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Yeah, especially when my team is mostly normal and psychic

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It is expected that it will be crazy since I decided 500 for both options would be interesting

hidden bison
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500 BST variance eh

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in other words anything can show up

sharp orchid
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Pretty much

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So far, its been tame... Until the gym

hidden bison
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well there is always that one battle that throws some crazy mon

sharp orchid
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Pretty much the crowning moment of a randomizer since you know someone was bless with a godly team and it could be literally anyone

hidden bison
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Machamp/Articuno No-guard Sheer cold

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Stanley made that mon

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would be nice to run into

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😄

sharp orchid
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I better hope I am higher level then them by that point

robust crater
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What should I fuse with my squirtle? I have: Hoothoot, Horsea, Grimer, and Pichu

hidden bison
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hmm

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all of those are decent

vale gale
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Wait.

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I never get why people always rush fusing the starter.

hidden bison
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why not ?

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why use a unfused mon in IF

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i fuse my starter with the 1st encounter i get on route 1

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starters are nothing special either way

vale gale
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I guess it's okay.

hidden bison
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anyways it all depends on what type you need

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Water/Flying with the hoothoot

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potential Water/Dragon if horsea is the body

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Water/Poison with the grimer

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and Water/Ele with the Pichu

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Water/Poison and Water/Flying cover the grass weakness

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Water/Dragon is good but you only get the 2nd typing at around lvl 50

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since Seadra evolves around then

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and Water/Ele is a good type overall

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  • you can get Nasty Plot and Thunderbolt fairly early
vale gale
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You can also get Paralysing.

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Thunder Wave.

hidden bison
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i mean you get sleep with the hoothoot

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and poison with the grimer

vale gale
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Yeah, depends.

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I wouldn't go Hoothoot to be honest.

robust crater
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Yeah, that was the lowest on the list tbh

hidden bison
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Noctowl makes a great head

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but so does Blastoise

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so they clash a little

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Kingdra is very Balanced

amber crane
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I would wait to get a Root Fossil by rock smashing and get myself a Blastoise/Cradily.

hidden bison
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Muk is also a great head

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Blastoise

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hmm

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well just choose the type you need

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in the end it will be usefull

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whatever you fuse it with

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i did 2 retard runs in which i used bad fusions and i did fine

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and i had no problem

robust crater
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I think I'll go Grimer/Squirtle and Pichu/Horsea for the moment, I'll see how that works out

hidden bison
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hmm

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well before fusing

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check the stats for the Grimer

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to see who will be better off as the head

robust crater
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Grimer is 16/11/11/9/9

hidden bison
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96
90
92
72
102
69
521

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this is Muk head

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88
98
83
78
103
59
509

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this is Blastoise head

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Muk head looks to be better

robust crater
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Yea, seems so

amber crane
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My call too

rapid wind
rapid wind
rapid wind
hidden bison
nova sparrow
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nnn

hidden bison
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nnn??

nova sparrow
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nnn.

hidden bison
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movepool: softboiled, clam mind, shadow ball, psychic

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what do you mean nnn?

paper linden
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441 hp

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w h a t

hidden bison
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2/3 blissey 1/3 mewtwo

pallid ore
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sadly not possible anymore because of ability update, but think about that double stab hyperbeam residentgloomer

hidden bison
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how thw fu?

pallid ore
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huh i think i bugged something

hidden bison
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30 lv 175sp atk+

pallid ore
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hm something went wrong there. it has more sp. att than porygonz

hidden bison
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that's ok because of mewtwo

pallid ore
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oh mewtwo has 156 base, i thought it had less

hidden bison
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but not more than mewtwo sp atk

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if you compare to classic mewtwo lv 100 it should be less powerful

pallid ore
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yeah, as i said, its calculating something wrong

hidden bison
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because fusion makes the stronger pokemon weaker

pallid ore
hidden bison
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that's meta breaking

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i think that with 400hp i cannot tank one hyper beam

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and it has a shit ton of hp too

pallid ore
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well, first of, you cant get adaptability on pory head anymore and second, 467 isnt even possible. 447 sp.att is mewtwos max

hidden bison
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why you cannot get adaptability on pory head?

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it's not hidden

pallid ore
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only second abilities on head

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which is download on pory

hidden bison
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oooh i see

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but i think it's better to have mewtwo head

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it has more sp atk and more hp

white pewter
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guys, I have a glaceon/gallade but is it worth training?

pallid ore
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well, there is definitely something off with the calculations i would say

hidden bison
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Mew gone Z form

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that's real name

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and that's god

tepid sable
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You have to take into account that the nature is boosting sp atk

pallid ore
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447 is still his max, even with positive nature

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*mewtwos max

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with pory body its probably something like 430

tepid sable
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Almost as if the fusion is getting a boost to its best stat

hidden bison
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but nowere near 400

pallid ore
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iv and ev were maxed on mine

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and nature of course

hidden bison
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how did you do that?

pallid ore
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i have debug mode, but you can do it by buying the vitamins in celadon and the feathers in goldenrod underground

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its quite expensive though

hidden bison
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only ev by vitamins

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and fethers

pallid ore
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or training like oldschool

hidden bison
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i cannot modify iv

pallid ore
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yeah thats luck

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or lots of catching and resetting

hidden bison
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there is no way to have perfect iv

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it's way to impossible

pallid ore
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you can check iv in saffron second house to the right after you fly there

hidden bison
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it's like 60+hours farm

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hmm did Schrroms sneakily add the % boost back in ?

tepid sable
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If he did, it's not an overly huge boost

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Like not 25%

pallid ore
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might just be my version. he gave me a patch that had a working debug mode. maybe boost is only in that version

hidden bison
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hmm

pallid ore
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hm porytwo has 49 more sp.att than it should have

hidden bison
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maybe you unlock the boost with the debug mode ?

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which is pointless in the end

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interesting

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can you send me a picture of perfect iv mewtwo lv 50 stats?

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@pallid ore

pallid ore
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well it has ev maxed.. so probably pointless

hidden bison
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thx

pallid ore
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what i find more interesting than the boost is this menu here. idk how that stuff works, but if there is a way to remove the gamebreaking stuff from debug and keep this that would be sooo good

hidden bison
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oh

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you can get hidden abilities with that ?

pallid ore
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yeah

hidden bison
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interesting

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and it has 2

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they are essentially

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the abilities of the opposite

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wonder if actual hidden abilities are counted

pallid ore
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now in some cases where pokemon have 2 normal abilities + ha there would be missing abilties, but thats still an improvement

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hm seems like you cant get actual hidden abilties

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wait, so why does the secret capsule not work on fusions, if the pokemon have their counterpart abilties as hidden abilties?

hidden bison
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how do you have debug mode?

nova sparrow
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cause there are two has

hidden bison
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can you send me porigonz too with perfect iv and ev?

pallid ore
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normally a mon cant have more than 1 hidden ability right? so maybe its just a override and not saved on the pokemon when schrroms generates them, no clue

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catch all 315 base mons grossly

hidden bison
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ye only 1

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normally

nova sparrow
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can i teleport to and from indigo plataue? jsut checking

pallid ore
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i already deleted the porigonz :/

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yes

nova sparrow
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cool

hidden bison
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all 365... that's a little bit of work

pallid ore
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315

fallen patio
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what pokemon should i fuse slugma with no water

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or grass

hidden bison
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hola

fallen patio
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hola

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ahí

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im using translate

hidden bison
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hola

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yo tambien

fallen patio
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im not very good at spanish

hidden bison
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okey amigo

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jeje

fallen patio
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i do understand some like hola amigo and okey

hidden bison
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oye viste mi fusion de bulbasaur y caterpie que opinas se que no me salio bien lo boca

fallen patio
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its really just a eye then it would be fine

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its still better than what i can do

pallid ore
paper linden
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ooh nice

pallid ore
nova sparrow
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ooo

pallid ore
cyan tiger
nova sparrow
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puppy!

robust crater
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Boy, I sure am intimidated

white pewter
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aaaaaaaaaaaa

nova sparrow
white pewter
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I'm scared

proud crane
white pewter
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oh i see

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muk certainly is better

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in some aspects at least

kindred cobalt
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no, that four speed makes it 10x better, that's another 11th extra speed!

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it might outspeed. . . like a paralised slowpoke or something

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maybe a fainted pokemon?

distant dagger
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What about the 20 special defense

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Levitate is good and all but you could also just switch into another pokemon

white pewter
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that 20 special defense isn't much if you know what you're doing. no smart trainer would make this fight a special attacker

sterile sundial
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Weezing/Umbreon fusion, totally not broken

white pewter
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explain

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i'm not catching on

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what is it capable of

hidden bison
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Dark/Poison Levitate

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no weakness

sterile sundial
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no weaknesses and 85/117/110 defences

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lmao

hidden bison
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and ye defenses are great

white pewter
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oh damn

sterile sundial
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how do abilites work? can you choose the ability from your pokemon's ability slots?

white pewter
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depending on which one is the head and body

hidden bison
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ye

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head gets second ability of the mon

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body 1st of the mon

sterile sundial
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by second ability do you mean second ability slot

hidden bison
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yes

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second ability slot of the mon in question

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so a Marill for example

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a Marill head gives Huge power

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being the second ability

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a Marill body gives Thick fat

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being the 1st

sterile sundial
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ah i see

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what about hidden abilities

hidden bison
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fusions dont have them

sterile sundial
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and i'm guessing if a poke only ever has 1 ability, you'll always be able to choose it

white pewter
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yes

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so something like Slaking which only has Truant will always give the option to choose Truant

sterile sundial
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if you're a madman that is

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slaking anything would be broken

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slaking/azumarill 👀

white pewter
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yes

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slaking/azumarill with huge power is a nightmare

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slaking might not have been the best example but it's what I could think of on the spot

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spose most legendaries just have Pressure so that too

fallen patio
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i wish regigigas was in the game

white pewter
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could easily make that broken

sterile sundial
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Blissey/Dusknoir is also super disgusting

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Blissey anything is op tbh but blissey/dusknoir has 1 weakness

white pewter
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that's what makes the game fun. disgusting fusions

sterile sundial
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yeah

white pewter
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one weakness but the defense and hp would easily overcome that

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plus access to a few fighting attacks to save it anyway

sterile sundial
white pewter
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stop

sterile sundial
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softboiled too

white pewter
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although those attack stats leave it to be a staller more than anything

sterile sundial
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imagine blissey with defence

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that's this fusion

fallen patio
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i know this isnt fusion related but

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have you tried wonder room chansey

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or blissey

proven geyser
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Chansey+Schuckle with eviolite 175hp 232DeF e 220 Spe Def...

pallid ore
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Eviolite got nerfed to 25%

sharp orchid
cyan tiger
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I'm so torn. Is that 10 speed and somewhat better movepool worth the Jynx face?

frail solstice
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Glaeon has better def

proud crane
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I'd go with Glaceon

cyan tiger
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I was about to say something about Glaeon's defense

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And then it learned Barrier in that moment

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TIL, Glaceon learns Barrier

distant dagger
rapid wind
distant dagger
rapid wind
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serene grace obviously

distant dagger
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Serene grace poison jab or xxtra tank

cyan tiger
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Serene Grace all the way

distant dagger
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"Egg ball"

distant dagger
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When you think you're picking up an item, he swoop!.

hidden bison
rapid wind
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one of those wings looks a bit awkward

hidden bison
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i have a larvitar a dratini and a metang in what way do i fuse them

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im thinking dratini and metang for a dragon steel type

fallen patio
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well it has to be a metagross head/dragonite

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for a drag steel

fallen patio
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what would be a cool special fire fusion

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typing wise

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these are the typings i dont want

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fire-water, psychic, flying, electric, dark, ghost, grass, ground, steel andfairy

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these are the typings i would like

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fire-dragon,rock,ice,fighting,normal or bug

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any suggestions?

thorny salmon
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fire/bug would be pretty good

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signal beam is great

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so maybe yanmega?

fallen patio
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ok yanmega something

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now what fire type

thorny salmon
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charizard and typhlosion are too good ones

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rapidash isn't bad either

hidden bison
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Magmortar

fallen patio
thorny salmon
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top yanmega is head

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bottom magmortar is head

fallen patio
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is there any other fire types

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maybe another fire type

thorny salmon
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i would suggest rapidash again but it can't learn flamethrower unfortunately

fallen patio
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wait what

thorny salmon
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it doesn't learn flamethrower levelling up

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haven't tried with a tm though

fallen patio
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yanmega/typhlosion it is

hidden bison
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Yan body is flying tho

fallen patio
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head is yanmega

thorny salmon
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arcanine isn't bad either

fallen patio
thorny salmon
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oh wow

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i didn't expect the arcanine to actually be better

fallen patio
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a 3 difference doesnt matter

thorny salmon
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yeah

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but if you can't find a typhlosion

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arcanine is a good option

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will probably be more fun to sprite

fallen patio
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what would you prefer?

thorny salmon
#

idk

#

i'd probably go for the arcanine

fallen patio
#

im on randomizer so wish me luck

thorny salmon
#

good luck

fallen patio
#

@thorny salmon

#

57 Bug Buzz

#

giga drain aswell

thorny salmon
#

yep

#

yanmega is great

#

i fused it with dragonite a while back

thorny salmon
#

how the hell am i gonna make a sprite for this

silver venture
#

Pressing Alt+Printscreen

thorny salmon
#

?

paper linden
#

chaos

#

just make the hair fit

#

give it kirlia eyes

#

boom

#

lazy asf sprite but it works

thorny salmon
#

lmao no that would be boring

#

i'm thinking of giving it the skirt

paper linden
#

then don't ask us how to make it

thorny salmon
#

and make the fire come out of that

lunar oyster
#

is rampardos head on dragonite actually rock/dragon?

white pewter
#

yes

#

dragonite always gives dragon

lunar oyster
#

good

#

now the question is how to get 72 fucking points

#

Also, big sad that yanma/omanyte was bug/rock, and since i traded for it cant unfuse.

brittle flume
#

It is

#

I fused my yanma with kabuto

#

Hoping for bug rock

marsh zenith
#

Any update on whether Shedinja has been added yet? I haven't been on this server for a while...

#

Haven

#

t updated yet either, unfortunately

lone pivot
#

it's added, it's in ilex forest

#

have to talk to an old woman hiding behind the poke center

#

Here's my Rhyperior/Gabite fusion with Impish nature and solid rock

vale gale
#

Why is Shedinja good?

stiff sorrel
#

Wonder guard

#

no real other reason

vale gale
#

Oh, right.

#

Isn't a Shedinja fusion amazing?

stiff sorrel
#

Not really

#

Well

#

depends

#

The hp won't be 1

#

but the typing would give it either bonuses, or weaknesses.

#

Fusion Shedinja with a dark-type, makes it only weak to fairy, effectively.

vale gale
#

Snorlax/Shedinja.

stiff sorrel
#

That'd be weak to dark

#

But a tank otherwise

vale gale
#

Literally any normal Pokemon with a good moveset.

flint loom
#

the hp will be 1. always (if you get the wonder guard ability)

#

I got one by wonder trade

#

unfortunatly, mine is bug/flying. so... plenty of weaknesses x)

vale gale
#

Question, Blue, Yellow, or Pink egg in the nursery?

flint loom
#

depends, is it you first one ?

#

if yes, then it's probably pichu, marill baby and melo

vale gale
#

I only just did the Pretty Wing quest.

flint loom
#

I believe there is 2 yellow one. onf of wich is elekid. but I am pretty sure this one is after you give honey to the daycare lady

vale gale
#

Melo?

flint loom
#

baby clefairy

vale gale
#

Oh, right.

#

I have a Cleffa.

flint loom
#

oh. right. that's the name

vale gale
#

So, Marill or Pichu then...

flint loom
#

it could also maybe be a baby jigglypuff

vale gale
#

Oh, right.

#

I'll take Pink.

flint loom
#

Either way, all those first eggs are pokemon you can easly find in the wild

vale gale
#

I have all the types offered covered anyway, so...

#

Brown, Blue, or Pink?

flint loom
#

Yes

vale gale
#

I did the Heart Scale quest.

flint loom
#

brown is bonsly

#

i'm guessing the pink is mime jr from that tiers ?

#

maybe

vale gale
#

What do you think I should take?

flint loom
#

the blue one though... mmm maybe wobbufet ?

#

Well, are you planning to use one of the babies ?

#

if no, then it doesn't matter

vale gale
#

Depends on what it is.

#

I might, if I want, I guess.

flint loom
#

I see, so I would suggest brown from that tiers. because I don't remember if you can get that pokemon in the wild

vale gale
#

I have three eggs on me.

#

Jeezuz.

flint loom
#

ahah, I also had a lot of babies in me at that point

#

and I end up only keeping the magmar baby

vale gale
#

I got an egg from a trainer.

flint loom
#

yes

vale gale
#

Who's that?

#

Oh, the eggs are Fairy/Normal.

#

One is just Fairy.

flint loom
#

It used to be clefairy farfetch. but now it's random I guess

#

wait, which version are you playing ?

vale gale
#

Latest.

flint loom
#

I thing in the latest version it depend on the pokemon that breeder use

vale gale
#

Honey, okay.

flint loom
#

good luck, it's tedious to get

#

My advice is to buy fusion repel, so you are encountering unfuse pokemon. and try to thief the honey from bellsprout or oddish

#

Because I am not sure if fusion can hold the honey

#

I spend a loooot of time trying to get it. And I end up getting it from un unfuse bellsprout

thorny salmon
#

so a fusion of gardevoir and gallade is literally just an objectively better version of gallade

#

gardevoir head ofc

vale gale
#

Best Psychic type combo?

flint loom
#

na, mewtwo / gallade will be better in almost every way than gardevoir/gallade (it just have less spe def)

#

but it might be one of the top 3 combinaison between 2 psychic type

vale gale
#

No, I mean, what's the best type combination including Psychic? @flint loom

hidden bison
#

decide for yourself

thorny salmon
#

uh

#

why is this a lot better than i expected

pallid ore
#

because blissey

thorny salmon
#

wait wait wait

#

can wonder guard be passed on?

pallid ore
#

yes

#

but the result only has 1 hp

#

always

thorny salmon
#

any normal/ghost

#

with shedinja

#

can only be beaten by dark type moves

#

which are pretty rare in general

cyan tiger
#

Question is, do you think they're rarer than Fire-type moves?

nova sparrow
#

dark moves

#

rare

cyan tiger
#

Because Bug/Steel is also a thing

pallid ore
vale gale
#

Overgrow or Torrent?

pallid ore
#

doesnt matter, whatever you have a better move for

thorny salmon
#

ursaring seems to be the best candidate as fusing it with shedinja grants 103 attack

vale gale
thorny salmon
#

speed and everything else are pretty much irrelevant

#

oof uh

#

torrent

pallid ore
#

fairy moves are rarer than dark moves for sure

vale gale
#

^

cyan tiger
#

Absolutely

#

And bullet punch everything like a degenerate

pallid ore
#

also sucker punch and swords dance on shedinja 👌

nova sparrow
#

true degeneracy

thorny salmon
#

don't forget to give it a focus sash

nova sparrow
#

i see the 365 and know fully well its cause of hp

cyan tiger
#

I love how only one stat matters on this

nova sparrow
#

lmamo

thorny salmon
#

update: flareon is also a good pick

#

although i imagine 4x rock weakness is

#

not ideal

pallid ore
#

wait, flareon with.. what? did i miss something

#

shedinja?

#

3 weaknesses right?

flint loom
#

Chaos, focus sash is very bad item out of a competitive setting

#

because it is one use only

#

it disapear after

#

The only place it won't disapear is in special places like the trainer house I am pretty sure

pallid ore
#

isnt the trainer house still bugged in that regard?

thorny salmon
#

well yeah

#

but in something like a champion battle

#

it can very much come in handy

silver venture
fallen patio
#

oh

jaunty briar
#

OH THE IMPLICATIONS

rapid wind
#

oh

vale gale
#

What Pokemon fuse well with Mawile?

gentle oriole
#

wait arnt there fairy moves in this game

#

because if it is gen 5 movesets wouldn't ghost dark shedninja be invincible

white pewter
#

only moonblast

#

and thats a tm

nova sparrow
#

theres dazzlgleam

#

no wait nvm

#

yeah youre right

#

and nothing learns the mOONBLAST THAT SHOUDL

white pewter
#

I had to use the moonblast tm just to give it to togekiss

#

pretty sure only gardevoir learns it through level

#

so dark/ghost shedinja is basically invincible

pallid ore
#

there is a decent amount of mons that learn it through tm, but i dont think any trainermons have it learned. and randomized probably dont either

proud crane
#

I know Granbull gets Play Rough by level up

gentle oriole
#

So ghost dark shedinja is amazing

silver venture
#

Technically it would be Dark/Ghost

jaunty briar
#

ok

jaunty briar
#

ok

bright finch
#

Is it ever "ok"?

paper linden
#

"ok"

jaunty briar
#

I believe it should be

kindred cobalt
#

"okay is never a threat no matter how many o's you put in front of it"

#

gg brain, g-bloody-g

jaunty briar
#

ooooooooooooooooooooo okay

thorny salmon
#

i find the less Os the more threatening

#

depending onn the context it actually can be

#

but on it's own ofc not

broken field
#

Okay so it's not available in the game. But. I have to show you guys my favorite random fusion

warped turret
#

What happens if you randomize Pokémon fusions

thorny salmon
#

you get random fusions

#

it's in the name

broken field
frail solstice
#

its wings are a fart cloud lytFILTH

vale gale
#

I'll just say it's pollution and leave it at that.

broken field
#

It's great it even has a green outline

frail solstice
#

been eating too many leeks

broken field
#

I hope that cloud doesn't leak

#

god it just entertains me to death

thorny salmon
#

best part is the head almost perfectly fits

#

it's like it was meant to be

broken field
#

ikr it's fate

flint loom
#

a long ooooooook could be frightening with the right intonation and the right context. Imagine a mad man "shining" style. going all "I am gonna kill you oooook ?. with a sloow ok (which doesn't really sound like a question. more like a rethorical question). and if you dare to answear he goes to a mad laugh and going for the axe swing

#

I mean, sure. This is a mad man going for the kill. everything sound threatening at this point

#

but still !

distant dagger
#

Imo if you have a lot of o's you need a lot of a's too

cyan tiger
#

I like to imagine it's just a short 'kay~♪ at the end. Like a plucky school girl with a hatchet.

rapid sandal
#

when you lose in apex legends with 0 squad kills

pallid ore
#

When someone invites me to play a battle royale

hidden bison
summer mantle
jaunty briar
fallen patio
#

how have you lost

jaunty briar
#

save me

fallen patio
#

W E E N U B

jaunty briar
#

I lost to a guy with a gengar, a muk, and two whitehands

#

so that's how I lost

summer mantle
jaunty briar
#

he wants to peck my eyes out doesn't he?

summer mantle
#

Don't F*ckle with Dodrickle

fallen patio
#

did you know once i losted to a gengar

#

a muk

#

and a master hand and crazy hand

#

they both used a pokeball

jaunty briar
#

they threw giant Pokeballs

fallen patio
#

and one got gengar and the other got muk

jaunty briar
#

not talking about them

summer mantle
#

I think I might build the oddsquad in game. just to have sitting around.

jaunty briar
stiff sorrel
#

A team made out of only oddish?

summer mantle
#

I also wanna build a starmie gold squad.

stiff sorrel
#

Do it.

fallen patio
#

i used a vilesire

stiff sorrel
#

I once used this

summer mantle
#

feels bad man.

stiff sorrel
#

Began with this

summer mantle
fallen patio
#

ill rate all those fusions

#

1st bad

#

2nd ok

#

3rd bad

#

4th ok

#

5th below average

jaunty briar
#

it's the ginyu force

stiff sorrel
#

Ginseng Force

jaunty briar
#

where's the newspaper?

#

I'ma smash a bee

#

that sounds weird

summer mantle
#

can fusions have hidden abilities?

#

or secondary?

#

I wanna give beedrill skill lin

#

link

simple osprey
#

Why?

#

Also, I'm pretty sure that the new update makes it so that cloyster gives skill link as a head

summer mantle
#

oh, awesome lol

#

and its because beedrill has the perfect set for a multi-hit pokemon

simple osprey
#

Does it?

summer mantle
#

focus energy, and at least 3 multi-hit moves, pretty sure more. and any pokemon with skill link will come with its own multi-hit moves.

simple osprey
#

It only benefits from fury attack and pin missile

summer mantle
#

that's true

simple osprey
#

Pretty sure it doesnt get pin missile STAB when cloyster is the head, as it becomes a poison type and not a bug type

summer mantle
#

yeah, I realise its not the best build.

simple osprey
#

😂

rose nimbus
#

Why is Gyarazard Fire/Water?

sand zephyr
#

char always give fire and gyara alaways give water?

rose nimbus
#

Why? Charizard is the body, shouldn't Gyarazard get the second type from it?

#

Not that I'm complaining

#

Just curious

hidden bison
#

Charizard always gives fire

rose nimbus
#

Why?

hidden bison
#

gen 1 starters always give their primary types

#

dont ask me

rose nimbus
#

...neat.

hidden bison
#

i didnt make the game

#

Schrroms made it like this

#

and most people like it like this

rose nimbus
#

I do like it.

hidden bison
#

personally i think they should just give both their types

#

like other mons

#

but well

#

its been like this forever

#

so no point in changing it

summer mantle
#

think we are ever gonna get megas? I think it could be quite interesting to have a pokemon with 2 different mega evolutions or more depending on which mega stone you got on, like a charzard/mewtwo hybrid would have 4 different mega forms it could jump to

hidden bison
#

Probably not

summer mantle
#

Charizard nidoking is a decent fusion. hmm...

summer mantle
dull ridge
#

I have some sprites for that line

summer mantle
#

That is horrifying.

cyan tiger
#

It is, and the Dragonair is every bit as nightmarish. I love it.

dull ridge
#

I don't know if I have that ome saved on my phone

cyan tiger
#

I've got you

#

If it's the one I'm thinking of

summer mantle
#

Stap.

dull ridge
#

Yea that

summer mantle
#

plz dnt

dull ridge
#

I don't care for that one as much, honestly

cyan tiger
#

I legit considered adding it to my team just for that sprite

dull ridge
#

I should finish that line

#

But I still need dragonite/honchkrow and the entire line of Venusaur/Golem, fused the other way than how I originally did it

hidden bison
#

lol everytime i see that mouth

#

i remember my Muk/Dragonair

dull ridge
#

That sprite is dope

hidden bison
dull ridge
#

Speaking of fusions though, y'all are gonna hate me

hidden bison
#

hm?

dull ridge
#

technically a fusion

cyan tiger
#

Hahahahhaa

dull ridge
#

Because I'm a basic bitch

cyan tiger
#

Y'know, I feel a little bad that this guy doesn't fit on my team so well now.

dull ridge
#

But he's so cute

cyan tiger
#

He iiiiis

#

And he got the perfect nature for what he is

hidden bison
#

Adamant would have been even better

cyan tiger
#

Almost perfect nature

summer mantle
#

That looks awesome

cyan tiger
#

I suffered for that sprite

dull ridge
#

Most people do

#

It was like the 4th or 5th sprite I'd ever made

cyan tiger
#

Oh man, I could see myself using that fusion, too.

dull ridge
#

I'm planning to make a full line for it

#

So far that's all I have

cyan tiger
#

Hmm... Here's a thought. If we're going to fuse Machamp with something to make it Fairy/Fighting, what should it be?

dull ridge
#

Probs Azumarill

pallid ore
#

togekiss?

dull ridge
#

Though I don't know the ins and outs of the ability update

pallid ore
#

yeah azu body works for fighting/fairy and huge power

#

pretty good

cyan tiger
#

Noted

pallid ore
#

and looks hilarious probably

cyan tiger
#

Here I was thinking Machamp body.

pallid ore
#

thats water/fighting

cyan tiger
#

True

pallid ore
#

nice name lol

#

it's pretty good, it has a bst of 522 if you get huge power on it

#

no guard from machamp is also a possibility

cyan tiger
#

Er

pallid ore
#

there is also togekiss for a mixed attacker

#

and serene grace is decent too

cyan tiger
#

Huh

#

I guess I'll just have to sprite all three options.

pallid ore
#

was just about to say, just do the one you think makes the best sprite

#

cause they're all good

cyan tiger
#

I had the thought, because my first run of the game I used a Wigglytuff/Machamp. Took me a bit to realize that comes out Normal/Fighting. Normal/Fighting STAB with a Play Rough on the side is still great, though.

nova sparrow
cyan tiger
#

It looks so

#

heroic

nova sparrow
#

its nice

paper linden
#

bee

#

i can use that

#

when my money stealer evolves

#

i have a togetic machamp

nova sparrow
#

:)))

#

i call him togetogetogetoge

#

cause four arms

#

and toge

vale gale
#

Togenipples.

lunar oyster
#

How do you get a tangela fusion into a tangrowth?

stiff sorrel
#

Ancient power, right?

lunar oyster
#

does it eventually work?

stiff sorrel
#

Works right away

nova sparrow
#

it do be like that

stiff sorrel
#

My piloswine got ancient power.

#

Next level, mamoswine

lunar oyster
#

ok damn 36-40

#

sigh

#

tangela/nidoking is really bad until it evolves final time.

brittle flume
#

It should upon learning

lunar oyster
#

at least physically

lunar oyster
#

where can i find a dark type

lone pivot
#

Absol on cinnabar island maybe

silver venture
#

Yes

#

But murkrow before that

#

Umbreon

#

Gyarados if not fused

white pewter
#

isn't gyrados only dark when fused with another gyrados?

lone pivot
#

No only water

#

Tried it by fusing totodile and magikarp and it evolved to only a solo type

lunar oyster
silver venture
#

I literally said

#

Unfused

#

For a reason

shrewd plaza
rapid wind
#

should of said HOLY SHIT!!! my starter already has a custom sprite

shrewd plaza
#

waduya mean? i did

rapid wind
#

perfect

rapid sandal
#

sorry

stiff sorrel
#

That's offensive on multiple levels

simple osprey
#

😂

summer mantle
#

on my rando playthrough, found a chardle (Charmander/weedle) and I don't know how I feel about it.

cyan tiger
#

I read that as candle for a second there

fathom venture
#

its fucked up but funny

rapid wind
#

i must be dumb because i dont get it

rapid wind
#

i have no clue what its fused with

#

and its face is

#

well

#

horrifying

fathom venture
#

ambipom

rapid wind
#

number is 254

#

but theres no head of a 254 in custom battlers

#

so idk what it is

nova sparrow
shrewd plaza
#

@rapid wind

rapid wind
#

ohh ok

#

that ninetales ambipom fusion

#

too much ninetales

#

way too much

shrewd plaza
#

there are 14 that ive found

#

in comparison to the 29 sunkern fusions

rapid wind
#

d

nimble sparrow
#

I was very amused by this

rapid wind
#

oh

summer mantle
#

Alright, manaut has huge power.... any idea why?

proud crane
#

I assume you're playing the most recent version?

summer mantle
#

yup

proud crane
#

maybe Azumarill had its abilities swapped but Marill hasn't. Evolve it and see what happens?

summer mantle
fathom venture
#

ah god is real

rapid wind
#

sprite

lunar oyster
#

someone made customs for this dude after all

lunar oyster
#

The one in the preview tool looked way better.

tepid sable
#

That Cranidos/Scyther is a generated sprite

silver venture
#

Did

#

Someone

#

Say

#

Sunkern

#

Fusions

vale gale
#

Sunkern Fusions.

fallen patio
#

i thought of a decent fusion

#

raichu/butterfree

stiff sorrel
#

Electric/flying, with quiver dance

#

yep

fallen patio
#

and compound eyes

#

quiver dance

#

sleep powder

#

thunder

#

and a flying type move

gentle oriole
#

Nice

sour vigil
#

ho-oh/slaking isnt bad

#

do slaking fusion always get traunt?

proud crane
#

nope maybe?

sour vigil
#

good

stiff sorrel
#

Yes they do

#

I fought one in the trainer house which (luckily) had truant

silver venture
#

But you can pick the other Pokémon’s ability though?

stiff sorrel
#

ye

#

I faced a Honchkrow/Slaking

robust crater
#

what's the best thing to fuse duskull with?

alpine merlin
#

gastly would be cool

proud crane
#

a physical attacker with high hp

#

Kangaskhan, Snorlax, Muk

robust crater
#

snorlax here I come

west dust
#

Should I make Houndoom the head or Ampharos the head?

proud crane
#

Ampharos

#

Unless you'd prefer Electric/Dark

pallid ore
#

houndoom body gives early bird as an ability option, seems good

proud crane
#

Though Flash Fire on Houndpharos sounds neat

west dust
#

Okay thanks

summer umbra
#

for a arcanine jolteon fusion what would be the better head

proud crane
#

check the pinned messages here

summer umbra
#

ok

proud crane
#

that would be jolteon

summer umbra
#

alright thank you

sour vigil
#

any ideas on a ghost/normal?

gentle oriole
#

I guess any ghost body is good on chancy or blissey

sour vigil
#

slap a ton of hp on a misdrevous or gengar doesnt sound good to me

pallid ore
#

blissey&snorlax/dusknoir, shedinja fusions, porygon-z/gengar

#

are the first i could come up with

sour vigil
#

the last one sounds neat

pallid ore
#

hm maybe the other way around gengar/porygon-z for adaptability

sour vigil
#

but then you lose speed

pallid ore
#

it's slower though

#

choice specs double stab is pretty good though

#

nature for sp.att

#

scarf*

flint loom
#

Although you get the choice item pretty late (or if you are willing to spend hours getting trainer point). Actually, I don't even know if in the latest version there is still that one question allowing you to get one choice item (I still didn't pass lavender town . I don't know why I am so slow this time around)

pallid ore
#

Huh you get a choice item regularly?
Must have missed that or do I just not remember

flint loom
#

I am pretty sure one guy give you one (you chose wich one) at one point

#

(maybe the guy that wanted a diamond for his wife ?)