#fusions
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bell boy!
Gah, he got a beldum
belbel
belm
belll
@paper linden no I didn't make it
oh lord
oh lawd he comin
Buff pichu
I think I like this one
can someone make a custom sprite for this lad
We got gen 3?
bits of it
I just realised that if you fuse a tauros and anything from the machamp line, you get a line of minotaur
Great discovery
What is this anime club bullshit I just want pokemon man
Sad homies feeling sorry for themselves
wa
just skip conversations if they don't matter to you. thats like the first thing you'll learn on the internet if you dont wanna waste time
oh hey this is fusions, oof
I need ideas, what would work well with Feraligatr
Marill, Dratini or Gyarados, for Aqua Tail
parasect for awesome design and crabhammer
Plus dry skin ability
yeah
has anybody figured out the theoretical best pokemon in fusion?
The thing I always thought of was a normal/ghost Blissey/Shedinja fusion with wonder guard
Considering there are so many pokemon, there probably isn't one single pokemon without any counters
Also, wonder guard automatically gives the fusion 1HP, so Blissey's HP would be completely wasted on Shedinja
Whho knows some cool fusions white wartortle?
Who can u send a screenshot?
you press prt sc
Sorry
or you press alt+prt sc
I mean can u send a screenshot
of alatoise?
Yes
What pokemon can push it???
Cool
strength
?
if you would like a sprite ask the spriters in spritework
Leuk
Nog meer kaaskopjes
@indigo marsh Om je vraag te beantwoorden, elke pokemon die de HM strength kennen kunnen de steen verschuiven
stan wet ere vere daing
The fuck
dewgong face on almost anything is adorable
I am a bit late for the party but I don't think there is a "best theoretical fusion". I mean, we can figure our which fusion have the higher total stats and even find which typings are the best. But overall, all fusion will have weaknesses they can't completely cover and therefore are susceptible to death by other pokemons. In other words, since every fusion can be counter, None can get the "best" label.
That being said, if you consider legendaries. The closest to a best fusion is probably a fusion between two of those. If you don't concider legendaries, a fusion with blissy head is a strong contestant to edge that title.
Shedinja/Scizor with wonderguard can only be hurt by fire if you're looking at weaknesses
Sure, but shedinja only have one hp, which make it succeptible to die really easy to a lot of things (like hail, sand storm, willo wisp etc..)
this is, mmhm, very interesting
Shedinja and BLISSEY
high hp and low hp make medium hp
lol
Much to learn, you still have
Which is better, water/fire or electric/flying?
Just got an Eevee, it be the body of a Charmander-Eevee fusion or the head?
itll be fire eithre way
as a chari too
Charizard always gives fire
I know.
Vaporeon/Charizard is very good
I thought the body was lower level.
"(1) When Fusing two pokémon, the lower-leveled pokémon will become the body" @nova sparrow
thats not right
i had to train a level 6 larvitar to level 20 to use it as the body in a azumatar fusion
did you read the bit at the top
sayign
"THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY ACCURATE AS OF 4.1.1"
remember that?
adapt
Thanks.
You can get super splicers later that fuse based on the order you select them and DNA reversers that switch the body parts
Super Splicers also make you lose less levels when unfusing
fixed fusion faq. higher level is indeed the body
For the guy mentioning the 'best' Fusions earlier, here's the 'current' Top 10 Heads/Bodies (that aren't Pseudo/Legendary):
Heads: Blissey 465, Chansey 390, Vaporeon 335, Snorlax 335, Togekiss 320, Lapras 310, Slaking 310, Gardevoir 308, Slowking 305, Wailord 305.
Bodies: Slaking 360, Cloyster 345, Leafeon 335, Kingler 320, Steelix 315, Gliscor 315, Rhyperior 310, Pinsir 310, Weavile 310, Tauros 305.
All other Fusion Materials have less than 300 Head/Body Stat Totals.
Togekiss head can give Serene Grace so that's a thing
So VaporLeafeon (or SyLeafeon, when Sylveon comes out) is a Flawless Fusion (higher Base Stat Total than either Fusee, 570 IIRC) and Blissey/Cloyster has been replaced by Blissey/Slaking as the Top Fusion (or Blissey/Arceus if you include Legendaries), but again, Normal/Ice-type and Pure Normal-type... kinda SUCK. Arceus could get you a Normal/Ghost that's only vulnerable to Dark...
Either way, maximum BST is now ~677, only beaten out by Legendaries Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-Oh and Arceus.
Granted, that's mostly because Blissey has only a 75 Body Stat Total to contribute. Vaporeon might change that, but I'll wait until more Generations start coming in.
And Blissey can ALSO give Serene Grace, though I'm not sure if Blissey and Cloyster/Slaking/Arceus have a decent number of "Chance To Cause X" Moves in their Learnsets or not...
The thing is, bst isnt the only thing that makes a pokemon good. You should also looks at types, abilities and movesets. Thats the entire reason theres no "best" fusion, there will always be a counter. Also, I wouldnt wait on further gens to be added, the chance thats going to happen is very small (schromms is pretty much already using rpg makers maximum potential)
mega mew gen 8 confirmed?
geez the mewmega has speed boost too
lances mewmega is way better than dragonite
this is one really weird looking zubat
i see nothing wrong 👀
catch it and name it Zubuff
trainer battle
steal it and name it zubuff
nope i must do it
Garchomp/Lucario> other stuff
Only reason I beat Lance tbh
Weavile/Dugtrio is scary
Moonwatcher you murderer ! you chop off the limbs of those poor pokemons
im making something else instead of that rn
why does this fit so well?
Lol
oh
I was doing a randomizer nuzlocke and this abomination appears in the gym
There was also a mawile tangrowth one which was equally as terrifying
Steel Gym ?
Yup
It was a tangrowth mawile and a Meganium scizor
Both were pains in the ass to fight
did you have a mon that covers Steel ?
No, but luckily they decided to do non-damaging moves which helped me wittle them down with Night Shade
ye its always nice when the AI has a brain fart
Yeah, especially when my team is mostly normal and psychic
It is expected that it will be crazy since I decided 500 for both options would be interesting
well there is always that one battle that throws some crazy mon
Pretty much the crowning moment of a randomizer since you know someone was bless with a godly team and it could be literally anyone
Machamp/Articuno No-guard Sheer cold
Stanley made that mon
would be nice to run into
😄
I better hope I am higher level then them by that point
What should I fuse with my squirtle? I have: Hoothoot, Horsea, Grimer, and Pichu
why not ?
why use a unfused mon in IF
i fuse my starter with the 1st encounter i get on route 1
starters are nothing special either way
I guess it's okay.
anyways it all depends on what type you need
Water/Flying with the hoothoot
potential Water/Dragon if horsea is the body
Water/Poison with the grimer
and Water/Ele with the Pichu
Water/Poison and Water/Flying cover the grass weakness
Water/Dragon is good but you only get the 2nd typing at around lvl 50
since Seadra evolves around then
and Water/Ele is a good type overall
- you can get Nasty Plot and Thunderbolt fairly early
Yeah, that was the lowest on the list tbh
Noctowl makes a great head
but so does Blastoise
so they clash a little
Kingdra is very Balanced
I would wait to get a Root Fossil by rock smashing and get myself a Blastoise/Cradily.
Muk is also a great head
Blastoise
hmm
well just choose the type you need
in the end it will be usefull
whatever you fuse it with
i did 2 retard runs in which i used bad fusions and i did fine
and i had no problem
I think I'll go Grimer/Squirtle and Pichu/Horsea for the moment, I'll see how that works out
hmm
well before fusing
check the stats for the Grimer
to see who will be better off as the head
Grimer is 16/11/11/9/9
96
90
92
72
102
69
521
this is Muk head
88
98
83
78
103
59
509
this is Blastoise head
Muk head looks to be better
Yea, seems so
My call too
lickickle
oh a custom sprite
wild wailord fusion spotted
how about...
nnn
nnn??
nnn.
2/3 blissey 1/3 mewtwo
sadly not possible anymore because of ability update, but think about that double stab hyperbeam 
👀
how thw fu?
huh i think i bugged something
30 lv 175sp atk+
hm something went wrong there. it has more sp. att than porygonz
that's ok because of mewtwo
oh mewtwo has 156 base, i thought it had less
but not more than mewtwo sp atk
if you compare to classic mewtwo lv 100 it should be less powerful
yeah, as i said, its calculating something wrong
because fusion makes the stronger pokemon weaker
that cant be right
that's meta breaking
i think that with 400hp i cannot tank one hyper beam
and it has a shit ton of hp too
well, first of, you cant get adaptability on pory head anymore and second, 467 isnt even possible. 447 sp.att is mewtwos max
oooh i see
but i think it's better to have mewtwo head
it has more sp atk and more hp
guys, I have a glaceon/gallade but is it worth training?
well, there is definitely something off with the calculations i would say
You have to take into account that the nature is boosting sp atk
447 is still his max, even with positive nature
*mewtwos max
with pory body its probably something like 430
with max ev and iv
Almost as if the fusion is getting a boost to its best stat
how did you do that?
i have debug mode, but you can do it by buying the vitamins in celadon and the feathers in goldenrod underground
its quite expensive though
or training like oldschool
i cannot modify iv
you can check iv in saffron second house to the right after you fly there
might just be my version. he gave me a patch that had a working debug mode. maybe boost is only in that version
hmm
hm porytwo has 49 more sp.att than it should have
maybe you unlock the boost with the debug mode ?
which is pointless in the end
interesting
can you send me a picture of perfect iv mewtwo lv 50 stats?
@pallid ore
thx
what i find more interesting than the boost is this menu here. idk how that stuff works, but if there is a way to remove the gamebreaking stuff from debug and keep this that would be sooo good
yeah
interesting
and it has 2
they are essentially
the abilities of the opposite
wonder if actual hidden abilities are counted
now in some cases where pokemon have 2 normal abilities + ha there would be missing abilties, but thats still an improvement
hm seems like you cant get actual hidden abilties
wait, so why does the secret capsule not work on fusions, if the pokemon have their counterpart abilties as hidden abilties?
how do you have debug mode?
cause there are two has
can you send me porigonz too with perfect iv and ev?
normally a mon cant have more than 1 hidden ability right? so maybe its just a override and not saved on the pokemon when schrroms generates them, no clue
catch all 315 base mons grossly
can i teleport to and from indigo plataue? jsut checking
cool
all 365... that's a little bit of work
315
hola
im not very good at spanish
i do understand some like hola amigo and okey
oye viste mi fusion de bulbasaur y caterpie que opinas se que no me salio bien lo boca
ooh nice
jeez, that attack
ooo
Look at that face. Look at how intimidating he is.
puppy!
Boy, I sure am intimidated
aaaaaaaaaaaa
intimidaterd
I'm scared
Muk/Rhyperior and Weezing/Rhyperior
no, that four speed makes it 10x better, that's another 11th extra speed!
it might outspeed. . . like a paralised slowpoke or something
maybe a fainted pokemon?
What about the 20 special defense
Levitate is good and all but you could also just switch into another pokemon
that 20 special defense isn't much if you know what you're doing. no smart trainer would make this fight a special attacker
Weezing/Umbreon fusion, totally not broken
and ye defenses are great
oh damn
how do abilites work? can you choose the ability from your pokemon's ability slots?
depending on which one is the head and body
by second ability do you mean second ability slot
yes
second ability slot of the mon in question
so a Marill for example
a Marill head gives Huge power
being the second ability
a Marill body gives Thick fat
being the 1st
fusions dont have them
and i'm guessing if a poke only ever has 1 ability, you'll always be able to choose it
yes
so something like Slaking which only has Truant will always give the option to choose Truant
if you're a madman that is
slaking anything would be broken
slaking/azumarill 👀
yes
slaking/azumarill with huge power is a nightmare
slaking might not have been the best example but it's what I could think of on the spot
spose most legendaries just have Pressure so that too
i wish regigigas was in the game
could easily make that broken
Blissey/Dusknoir is also super disgusting
Blissey anything is op tbh but blissey/dusknoir has 1 weakness
that's what makes the game fun. disgusting fusions
yeah
one weakness but the defense and hp would easily overcome that
plus access to a few fighting attacks to save it anyway
this is nasty
stop
softboiled too
although those attack stats leave it to be a staller more than anything
i know this isnt fusion related but
have you tried wonder room chansey
or blissey
Chansey+Schuckle with eviolite 175hp 232DeF e 220 Spe Def...
Eviolite got nerfed to 25%
I'm so torn. Is that 10 speed and somewhat better movepool worth the Jynx face?
Glaeon has better def
I'd go with Glaceon
I was about to say something about Glaeon's defense
And then it learned Barrier in that moment
TIL, Glaceon learns Barrier
Why does this dex entry fit so well
and this
Hmm
serene grace obviously
Serene grace poison jab or xxtra tank
Serene Grace all the way
This custom sprite is great
one of those wings looks a bit awkward
i have a larvitar a dratini and a metang in what way do i fuse them
im thinking dratini and metang for a dragon steel type
what would be a cool special fire fusion
typing wise
these are the typings i dont want
fire-water, psychic, flying, electric, dark, ghost, grass, ground, steel andfairy
these are the typings i would like
fire-dragon,rock,ice,fighting,normal or bug
any suggestions?
Magmortar
i would suggest rapidash again but it can't learn flamethrower unfortunately
wait what
yanmega/typhlosion it is
Yan body is flying tho
head is yanmega
barely a difference
a 3 difference doesnt matter
yeah
but if you can't find a typhlosion
arcanine is a good option
will probably be more fun to sprite
what would you prefer?
im on randomizer so wish me luck
good luck
Pressing Alt+Printscreen
?
chaos
just make the hair fit
give it kirlia eyes
boom
lazy asf sprite but it works
then don't ask us how to make it
and make the fire come out of that
is rampardos head on dragonite actually rock/dragon?
good
now the question is how to get 72 fucking points
Also, big sad that yanma/omanyte was bug/rock, and since i traded for it cant unfuse.
Any update on whether Shedinja has been added yet? I haven't been on this server for a while...
Haven
t updated yet either, unfortunately
it's added, it's in ilex forest
have to talk to an old woman hiding behind the poke center
Here's my Rhyperior/Gabite fusion with Impish nature and solid rock
Why is Shedinja good?
Not really
Well
depends
The hp won't be 1
but the typing would give it either bonuses, or weaknesses.
Fusion Shedinja with a dark-type, makes it only weak to fairy, effectively.
Snorlax/Shedinja.
Literally any normal Pokemon with a good moveset.
the hp will be 1. always (if you get the wonder guard ability)
I got one by wonder trade
unfortunatly, mine is bug/flying. so... plenty of weaknesses x)
Question, Blue, Yellow, or Pink egg in the nursery?
depends, is it you first one ?
if yes, then it's probably pichu, marill baby and melo
I only just did the Pretty Wing quest.
I believe there is 2 yellow one. onf of wich is elekid. but I am pretty sure this one is after you give honey to the daycare lady
Melo?
baby clefairy
oh. right. that's the name
So, Marill or Pichu then...
it could also maybe be a baby jigglypuff
Either way, all those first eggs are pokemon you can easly find in the wild
Yes
I did the Heart Scale quest.
What do you think I should take?
the blue one though... mmm maybe wobbufet ?
Well, are you planning to use one of the babies ?
if no, then it doesn't matter
I see, so I would suggest brown from that tiers. because I don't remember if you can get that pokemon in the wild
ahah, I also had a lot of babies in me at that point
and I end up only keeping the magmar baby
I got an egg from a trainer.
yes
It used to be clefairy farfetch. but now it's random I guess
wait, which version are you playing ?
Latest.
I thing in the latest version it depend on the pokemon that breeder use
Honey, okay.
good luck, it's tedious to get
My advice is to buy fusion repel, so you are encountering unfuse pokemon. and try to thief the honey from bellsprout or oddish
Because I am not sure if fusion can hold the honey
I spend a loooot of time trying to get it. And I end up getting it from un unfuse bellsprout
so a fusion of gardevoir and gallade is literally just an objectively better version of gallade
gardevoir head ofc
Best Psychic type combo?
na, mewtwo / gallade will be better in almost every way than gardevoir/gallade (it just have less spe def)
but it might be one of the top 3 combinaison between 2 psychic type
No, I mean, what's the best type combination including Psychic? @flint loom
A Pokémon type calculator to show strengths/weaknesses of different type combinations
decide for yourself
because blissey
any normal/ghost
with shedinja
can only be beaten by dark type moves
which are pretty rare in general
Question is, do you think they're rarer than Fire-type moves?
Because Bug/Steel is also a thing
this is my favorite shedinja fusion
Overgrow or Torrent?
doesnt matter, whatever you have a better move for
ursaring seems to be the best candidate as fusing it with shedinja grants 103 attack
fairy moves are rarer than dark moves for sure
^
Absolutely
Also I'll be over here with my Shedinja/Scizor.
And bullet punch everything like a degenerate
also sucker punch and swords dance on shedinja 👌
true degeneracy
don't forget to give it a focus sash
i see the 365 and know fully well its cause of hp
I love how only one stat matters on this
lmamo
update: flareon is also a good pick
although i imagine 4x rock weakness is
not ideal
Chaos, focus sash is very bad item out of a competitive setting
because it is one use only
it disapear after
The only place it won't disapear is in special places like the trainer house I am pretty sure
isnt the trainer house still bugged in that regard?
well yeah
but in something like a champion battle
it can very much come in handy
oh
OH THE IMPLICATIONS
oh
What Pokemon fuse well with Mawile?
wait arnt there fairy moves in this game
because if it is gen 5 movesets wouldn't ghost dark shedninja be invincible
theres dazzlgleam
no wait nvm
yeah youre right
and nothing learns the mOONBLAST THAT SHOUDL
I had to use the moonblast tm just to give it to togekiss
pretty sure only gardevoir learns it through level
so dark/ghost shedinja is basically invincible
there is a decent amount of mons that learn it through tm, but i dont think any trainermons have it learned. and randomized probably dont either
I know Granbull gets Play Rough by level up
So ghost dark shedinja is amazing
Technically it would be Dark/Ghost
ok
ok
Is it ever "ok"?
"ok"
I believe it should be
"okay is never a threat no matter how many o's you put in front of it"
gg brain, g-bloody-g
ooooooooooooooooooooo okay
i find the less Os the more threatening
depending onn the context it actually can be
but on it's own ofc not
Okay so it's not available in the game. But. I have to show you guys my favorite random fusion
What happens if you randomize Pokémon fusions
Best dragon
its wings are a fart cloud 
I'll just say it's pollution and leave it at that.
It's great it even has a green outline
been eating too many leeks
ikr it's fate
a long ooooooook could be frightening with the right intonation and the right context. Imagine a mad man "shining" style. going all "I am gonna kill you oooook ?. with a sloow ok (which doesn't really sound like a question. more like a rethorical question). and if you dare to answear he goes to a mad laugh and going for the axe swing
I mean, sure. This is a mad man going for the kill. everything sound threatening at this point
but still !
Imo if you have a lot of o's you need a lot of a's too
I like to imagine it's just a short 'kay~♪ at the end. Like a plucky school girl with a hatchet.
Si mi fusion en juego sii
Just gonna leave this here for you.
when you lose a game
how have you lost
save me
W E E N U B
he wants to peck my eyes out doesn't he?
Don't F*ckle with Dodrickle
did you know once i losted to a gengar
a muk
and a master hand and crazy hand
they both used a pokeball
they threw giant Pokeballs
and one got gengar and the other got muk
not talking about them
I think I might build the oddsquad in game. just to have sitting around.
A team made out of only oddish?
I also wanna build a starmie gold squad.
Do it.
i used a vilesire
feels bad man.
it's the ginyu force
Ginseng Force
can fusions have hidden abilities?
or secondary?
I wanna give beedrill skill lin
link
Why?
Also, I'm pretty sure that the new update makes it so that cloyster gives skill link as a head
oh, awesome lol
and its because beedrill has the perfect set for a multi-hit pokemon
Does it?
focus energy, and at least 3 multi-hit moves, pretty sure more. and any pokemon with skill link will come with its own multi-hit moves.
It only benefits from fury attack and pin missile
that's true
Pretty sure it doesnt get pin missile STAB when cloyster is the head, as it becomes a poison type and not a bug type
yeah, I realise its not the best build.
😂
Why is Gyarazard Fire/Water?
char always give fire and gyara alaways give water?
Why? Charizard is the body, shouldn't Gyarazard get the second type from it?
Not that I'm complaining
Just curious
Charizard always gives fire
Why?
...neat.
i didnt make the game
Schrroms made it like this
and most people like it like this
I do like it.
personally i think they should just give both their types
like other mons
but well
its been like this forever
so no point in changing it
think we are ever gonna get megas? I think it could be quite interesting to have a pokemon with 2 different mega evolutions or more depending on which mega stone you got on, like a charzard/mewtwo hybrid would have 4 different mega forms it could jump to
Probably not
Charizard nidoking is a decent fusion. hmm...
OH GOD WHY
That is horrifying.
It is, and the Dragonair is every bit as nightmarish. I love it.
I don't know if I have that ome saved on my phone
Stap.
Yea that
plz dnt
I don't care for that one as much, honestly
I legit considered adding it to my team just for that sprite
I should finish that line
But I still need dragonite/honchkrow and the entire line of Venusaur/Golem, fused the other way than how I originally did it
That sprite is dope
Speaking of fusions though, y'all are gonna hate me
hm?
Hahahahhaa
Because I'm a basic bitch
Y'know, I feel a little bad that this guy doesn't fit on my team so well now.
But he's so cute
Adamant would have been even better
That looks awesome
I suffered for that sprite
Most people do
I suffered a lot for this one
It was like the 4th or 5th sprite I'd ever made
Oh man, I could see myself using that fusion, too.
Hmm... Here's a thought. If we're going to fuse Machamp with something to make it Fairy/Fighting, what should it be?
Probs Azumarill
togekiss?
Though I don't know the ins and outs of the ability update
Noted
and looks hilarious probably
Here I was thinking Machamp body.
thats water/fighting
nice name lol
it's pretty good, it has a bst of 522 if you get huge power on it
no guard from machamp is also a possibility
Huh
That's better than I expected it to be
I guess I'll just have to sprite all three options.
was just about to say, just do the one you think makes the best sprite
cause they're all good
I had the thought, because my first run of the game I used a Wigglytuff/Machamp. Took me a bit to realize that comes out Normal/Fighting. Normal/Fighting STAB with a Play Rough on the side is still great, though.
but wait!
its nice
Togenipples.
How do you get a tangela fusion into a tangrowth?
Ancient power, right?
does it eventually work?
Works right away
it do be like that
It should upon learning
at least physically
where can i find a dark type
Absol on cinnabar island maybe
isn't gyrados only dark when fused with another gyrados?
No only water
Tried it by fusing totodile and magikarp and it evolved to only a solo type
every anime protag
HOLY SHIT!!! my starter already has a custom sprite
should of said HOLY SHIT!!! my starter already has a custom sprite
waduya mean? i did
perfect
That's offensive on multiple levels
😂
on my rando playthrough, found a chardle (Charmander/weedle) and I don't know how I feel about it.
I read that as candle for a second there
its fucked up but funny
i must be dumb because i dont get it
saw this in custom battlers
i have no clue what its fused with
and its face is
well
horrifying
ambipom
deet
d
oh
I assume you're playing the most recent version?
yup
maybe Azumarill had its abilities swapped but Marill hasn't. Evolve it and see what happens?
ah god is real
That Cranidos/Scyther is a generated sprite
Sunkern Fusions.
Nice
nope maybe?
good
But you can pick the other Pokémon’s ability though?
what's the best thing to fuse duskull with?
gastly would be cool
snorlax here I come
Should I make Houndoom the head or Ampharos the head?
houndoom body gives early bird as an ability option, seems good
Though Flash Fire on Houndpharos sounds neat
Okay thanks
for a arcanine jolteon fusion what would be the better head
check the pinned messages here
ok
that would be jolteon
alright thank you
any ideas on a ghost/normal?
I guess any ghost body is good on chancy or blissey
slap a ton of hp on a misdrevous or gengar doesnt sound good to me
blissey&snorlax/dusknoir, shedinja fusions, porygon-z/gengar
are the first i could come up with
the last one sounds neat
hm maybe the other way around gengar/porygon-z for adaptability
but then you lose speed
it's slower though
choice specs double stab is pretty good though
nature for sp.att
scarf*
Although you get the choice item pretty late (or if you are willing to spend hours getting trainer point). Actually, I don't even know if in the latest version there is still that one question allowing you to get one choice item (I still didn't pass lavender town . I don't know why I am so slow this time around)
Huh you get a choice item regularly?
Must have missed that or do I just not remember
