really depends
#fusions
fathom venture
velvet dawn
@fathom venture On what?
fathom venture
the forretress
velvet dawn
what about it? It's IVs or something?
fathom venture
on what you want from it
velvet dawn
Well
A tank I guess
poison/steel and flying/steel are both excellent defensive typings afaik
fathom venture
noctowl
velvet dawn
okay, why?
fathom venture
better special defense
velvet dawn
Ah
fathom venture
covers for foretress's low sd
velvet dawn
Are there any higher special defense flying/normal types?
velvet dawn
yeah
fathom venture
ok
velvet dawn
...and there aren't exactly a ton of pure poison types available either
velvet dawn
I like the concept with Muk better...
probably depends on who I can come up with a better sprite for, honestly
distant dagger
Doesnt togekiss have good sp.def, or did it have good defense?
fathom venture
it is flying side type
velvet dawn
It would only give flying as a body
fathom venture
so it would give fairy
distant dagger
Oh yeah, forgot that
velvet dawn
@fathom venture just out of curiosity, what would you get from a Weezing/forretress? You made it sound like there was a different roll it would be good in
fathom venture
If you want physical defense
but weezing's sd isn't that good
so I reccomend muk
velvet dawn
I guess
hidden bison
The muk fusion will have better overall stats
But no levitate
It will have good Hp def sp def and atk
Bad sp atk and spd
hidden bison
Well you decide you can just avoid ground types with the muk version
velvet dawn
I might look at the move sets
fathom venture
ooh nice Universes
velvet dawn
Still kinda leaning towards the muck tbh
being weak to ground is better than being weak to special attacks in general
(there don't seem to be very many physical poison or steel type attacks, though, do there)
fathom venture
yeah true
velvet dawn
well yeah. but you need to wait until high levels for muk to learn gunk shot, and I don't think forretress learns iron head
proud crane
move tutors. Gunk shot is in silph co, iron head is somewhere (near fuchsia maybe?)
flint loom
marsh zenith
For fusion purposes
flint loom
also there is a poll in announcement to vote on wich pokemon you whish to see in a future update
velvet dawn
Ooh, fun. Water/Ground?
fathom venture
yeah
tyranitar has a higher attack stat so I made it the body
only downside is bad defense
velvet dawn
Oh well
velvet dawn
How does the sprite look?
velvet dawn
Oh, okay
distant dagger
Remember that it'll turn into a water/dark
fathom venture
I got a larvitar with a better nature
sleek moth
Is wobbuffet worth fusing for it's HP?
hidden bison
its one of the best head mons on a strong phys atk body
i had a wobbuffet/machamp
and i soloed Giovanni with it
the gym battle
and it was lvl 51 at the time
giovanni's mons are around 60
his ace is 64
sleek moth
Wow.
hidden bison
its like chancey rly
only it gives psychic type
instead of normal
slightly lower HP
but its other stats are a little better
sleek moth
I think I prefer psychic anyways.
hidden bison
except the special stats of course
sleek moth
At least for some combinations.
hidden bison
well chancey/blissey head is good for a sp.atk mon
sleek moth
Yeah.
sleek moth
I'm doing a randomized playthrough, so I'll have to see what options I get.
Would tentacruel + ampharos be any good?
hidden bison
hmm
both are good as heads
tentaruel has beast sp.def
you can use it on a strong ground type body
for the Water/ground type
with great def and sp.def
its gonna be hard to kill
only grass types will be able to kill it easily
maybe Donphan ?
tentacruel/Donphan should be pretty good
or Steelix
since it gives Ground as a body
but it wont have as much atk as donphan
sleek moth
I will have to see what pokemon come up.
velvet dawn
Okay, hear me out: gastly + butterfree = sleep powder + compound eyes + dream eater = profit
Would this work, or would the stats cripple it?
hidden bison
it works
altho i had a Gengar/Parasect
spore
dream eater
and hex
it was ghost/grass
it had Giga drain too
blissful ginkgo
i just made my butterfree/flaaffy be a pokemon that puts status
with compound eyes and sleep powder + 3 other attacks of different types i can swipe through most stuff
hidden bison
butterfree also learns quiver dance, which is easy to set up with sleep powder
sleek moth
Do you think Dugtrio + Tentacruel would be any good?
With tentacruel as head.
Anyone?
bright finch
Only weak to grass, but the base atk stats aren't great. Too bad waterfall isn't i the game for a physical water stab
hidden bison
well typing alone would make it fairly good
its gonna have good speed too
but its not going to be the best mon in the world
leaden kayak
If you wanna do a dugtrio fusion, I recommend doing it with gyarados as the head
high attack and speed
haughty panther
Alright, I'm relatively new to this, and the first fusion on my mind is probably something involving Blissey. Specifically, I want to give it a body that patches out its low physical defense.
tepid sable
Steelix, possibly?
Or Shuckle if you want a defensive god against anything that is not fighting type
velvet dawn
cloyster
tepid sable
That ice type though, oof
proud crane
I had a Chansey/Cloyster (this was before gen 2 was added) that I named Cancer. It was unkillable
sure, I had to keep it away from fighting attacks, but it was just an unstoppable monster
turns out it's really really time consuming to put up stealth rock, two layers of toxic spikes, heal, and then three layers of spikes
but the only thing stopping you from doing so is a fighting attack
flint loom
I had a blissey/machamp which was unkillable and had a decent attack stats. it single handed the all 8th gym (it was random. I don't remember the typing)
haughty panther
Gonna save that Charmander fusion for Moltres.
hidden bison
you can defuse any time, so no saving necessary
haughty panther
Yeah, but still.
hidden bison
your choice, but moltres also comes quite late. you wont have alot of the beta left when catch it
velvet dawn
Anything good to fuse with gastly? I have WAY to many of them...
hidden bison
what do i do with a smeargle
flint loom
nothing much. sadly.
(well, some people would argue different)
I find it to hard to use
hidden bison
need to find someting that has spore
and then a fast body to use it on thats pritty meta
blissful ginkgo
IIRC butterfree has spore
bright finch
Parasect gets it at 22
hidden bison
I know thats exactly what i was thinking
hidden bison
cant decide for a head for cloyster. Vaporeon, gengar and togekiss came to my mind. is fairy any good? will water-stab be worth anything? any other ideas?
hidden bison
what about this
it will have great def and sp.def
you can set up shell smash since its atk stats are not the best
Vaporeon will probably still be a better water head tho
just checked the stats: vaporeon is better in HP and sp.atk, but tentacruel wins at sp.def. thanks for the suggestion 😃
np
Chancey head
with eviolite
will probably be broken
since it can get shell armor as its ability
which makes it immune to crits
you will probably survive x4 fighting attacks as well
or if you want more sp.atk
you can evovel the chansey to blissey
and give it a different item
that looks unethical
people have already made chancey/shuckle with eviolite
😄
lol would have never got that idea
some of thease fusion look really good as in better than actual pokemon
some faces fit quite well on some bodies
some make abominations
some are better than the actual pokemon desins
hidden bison
this things insane too
hidden bison
Does the body keep the ability or the head
its mostly "random"
....
once you fuse them you will know
random as in i can reset or
and you cant rly change it if you unfuse and fuse again
its set
no matter how many times you fuse them its gonna be the same
so save before fusing
and try with a different pair
or change one of the mons
since its based on ability order or smth like that
yea some pokemon really need there ability to work well
hidden bison
it compares first and second ability. a fuse can only have the first ability of either the body or head. Its decided by the following rule: if the body has its first ability, the fuse will have this one, if not the first ability of the head. pokemon with only one ability can count as first or second, there its random
intimidate on stuff that sholdent have it
any ideas what to fuse gastly with
distant dagger
kangaskhan
hidden bison
I was thinking clefairy
fairy ghost is almost as good as ghost normal
i took magnemite for steel ghost and levitate
its okish
hidden bison
where are the leftovers
flint loom
there is a gambler est of Vermillion city that give it to you if you won the blackjack game (I think that's the one in the top right)
flint loom
? I don't think that one is random thogh (I am not sure)
flint loom
yes. in the patch of grass area east of vermillion there is some trainer that are "gambler"
after you beat them you can gamble
it's a game of blackjack
the rules are the following. you are given a number corresponding to the value of a card. and you can ask another card to add the value to the one you already have. when you are happy with your total you can stop. then the opponent do the same and the closest to 21 win BUT, if you got more than 21 you lose.
hidden bison
where do i go after 3rd gym
back to cerula (or so 2. town) then head east
- town second gym leader
velvet dawn
In non-randomizer at least, when you capture one of the static snorlaxes they’re holding leftovers
hidden bison
2nd gym plase right
fould it
literealy i can sweep the game with this horpix its fire/water with good stab moves on both that also has blizard and energy ball for grass/ice coverage
proud crane
blizzard and energy ball in the second gym? randomization has been kind to you
hidden bison
after 3rd gym
proud crane
ah. but still
hidden bison
Yea that hole gengar pikachu thing 1 shot a chansey that was like 5 levels over it and has like 1.5 the sp atk of a pokemon thats like 7 lvs over it on my team when you add the x2
hidden bison
Is aerodactul + tyranitar a good one if i make aerodactul as the body its at 107 base speed
proud crane
Tyranitar/Aerodactyl - HP 93, Atk 115, Def 80, SpAtk 83, SpDef 92 Speed 107 - Total 570 - Rock/Flying
Aerodactyl/Tyranitar - HP 87, Atk 124, Def 95, SpAtk 72, SpDef 83, Speed 84 - Total 545 - Rock/Dark
hidden bison
Witch of thease bilds do i go for a mew butterfree with sleep power and quiverdance
hmm if you intend to use sleep powder and buff
spd is the stat you should be looking at
the one on the left is the one you should choose
yea i chose the psychic flying one
left is the bug/psychic one tho
literaly compleatly op
well they are pretty close
yea but one has compownd eyes for + 30 acuracy
both can get compound eyes
how
idk why you thought one cannot
does reverter spam work
no
once they are fused
the ability is set
you would need an Ability capsule for that
if you have the other ability
the ability capsule gives you the other avaliable ability instead
so you will get compound eyes
if you did not have it
you can buy it from crimson city
its accessible by surf
north of cerulean cape
its pretty expensive tho
how much
around 30k i think
cant remember exactly
30 000
well you should have that much money by that point in the game
since you have to have beaten Sabrina to be able to use surf
in the overworld
and she is the 6th gym leader
hidden bison
K wonder traded dragonite instantly got a kingdra with a lugia head definatly wonder trade isnt at random
hidden bison
Wondertrading legends like lugia at this point got so many legends
flint loom
And what did you get from that ?
hidden bison
lugia with some trash mons head
at that point your just geting Lugia/Ho-oh + some trash mon or some other legend + some trash mon
you do sometimes get non legends tho like arcanine with kingra head or someting like that
flint loom
I see. so the quality of what you give up definatly influe what you get
hidden bison
yea definatly but sometimes you get really bad stuff like 20 or 30% of the time as in about 200 less base stats then one you gave
hm
weird
why would you get those weak ones
And i havent seen 1 time that iv gothen someting with like + 200
if its based on stats
its definatly based on stats but has a lot of randomness to it
maybe its like the wild encounters but with a larger window for difference
instead of 50
100 or smth like that
nah you can go up to -194 so 200 may be the cap there
flint loom
maybe more than 100. I believe one of his trade had 105 difference
hidden bison
well 100 was just an example
so far iv got a lot of legends
its probably more than that
flint loom
maybe it's like a normal distribution around the total base stats of the pokemon you give out. It's unlickly to get a very bad one and more likely to get something close to you
but still possible
hidden bison
at this point i can make a full legendary fusion team
flint loom
and since there is finit amount of pokemon, you can get too far in the positive either
hidden bison
also i havent seen 2 legends in 1 so far
hidden bison
you can get legends mainly by using pokemon like tyranitar or dragonite but there still sorta rare
you gota try multiple times
flint loom
ho-oh / mewtwo seem to be the fusion with the highest total base stats (688)
hidden bison
havent gothen a mewto yet
velvet dawn
would blissy porygon be any good?
distant dagger
Which Porygon?
velvet dawn
um
distant dagger
This would be Z
sleek moth
How did you get that image?
distant dagger
A screenshot
sleek moth
My stat screen looks different.
distant dagger
sleek moth
Oh sweet.
Thanks.
proud crane
on second thought it might actually be a different fusion calculator
velvet dawn
@worn bison in what way?
velvet dawn
I can't open it... how does it work?
worn bison
oh
if you talk about the google drive on u have to download it
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10XGFUSyw07qz4gD6l10QTrwy-vFKBV7fRpcv1GgAZbA/edit#gid=0 but that kind of things is better tbh
hidden bison
It gets adaptability as furst ability so with a ability capsule it works witch cost 30k or you might not need one as its a furst ability
Im going with a bleasy head on pikachu only like 140 sp atk but 180 hp so its probobly better than the 180 sp atk 100 hp from ho-oh
distant dagger
What about the defenses and speed
hidden bison
speed is like 70 someting def is like 20 tho with 180 hp it dosent really mater its still a tank
sleek moth
I can't figure out how to use the google doc.
Changing the head doesn't seem to change anything else in the sheet, only the body.
blissful ginkgo
you just need to put the names of the pokemon and everything else should be showing
it shows you two variations of one being head body and the other is vice versa
sleek moth
That's what I did.
But only changing the pokemon for the body seems to change anything in the sheet.
blissful ginkgo
oh?
blissful ginkgo
you probably should do it in column
sleek moth
Ok, I'll try that.
sleek moth
That fixed it.
Thanks.
blissful ginkgo
yw
flint loom
I didn't edit the line side in ages. I am not surprise if it doesn't wotk anymore. I should just delete it or something
pallid ore
wat, it's way too good
velvet dawn
I know!
pallid ore
sometimes basic sprites actually look good. i think i saw another one some time ago that was almost perfect, cant remember though
velvet dawn
Was it umbreon furret?
pallid ore
nope, but gonna look it up
velvet dawn
please do umbreon furret also matches perfectly for some reason
pallid ore
http://pokefusion.japeal.com/469/243/0 i like this one a lot, even though its not perfect
huh
it shows the wrong one
one sec
its bugging out for me, whatever. it's tentacruel/venusaur
raimega looks really good though
velvet dawn
Was this it?
pallid ore
yes
it looks quite a bit worse when the sprite is that big
but i like the style and the colors
pallid ore
i'm still confused about this exception. my venusaur/tangrowth is pure poison so...
dunno ._.
velvet dawn
wait what
velvet dawn
oh good
that' pretty straightforward
starters and their evolution always fuse a if they were pure [primary type]
it's so you can never have a bulbasaur fusion that isn't part grass type
pallid ore
hmm, so i checked fusion faq. it should be pure water
wow umbreon fusions in general look sick
*umbreon head
flint loom
a slowduck should be both water and psychic
oh wait no
maybe not
maybe pure water mmm
I think the rule is. Head give first type. then body try to give it's first type, if it's the same as head, then body try to use it's second type
but psyduck doesn't have a second type
hidden bison
The starters give their primary types only
So venusaur always gives grass
And tangrowth is pure grass as well
flint loom
yes, but tangrowth is only a grass type isn't it ?
so... that's normal
and neither slowduck and psyduck are exception
hidden bison
im talking about him being confused about Venusaur/Tangrowth being pure grass
of course its normal
in this game at least
hidden bison
not bad for a generated sprite
velvet dawn
there really are a few that just WORK by pure chance
hidden bison
well only arboc is currently avaliable out of this fusion
velvet dawn
I guess there would have to be with so many in there
hidden bison
so its not avaliable ingame
velvet dawn
true 😦
hidden bison
well its not rly pure chance
worldly cove
hidden bison
bug heads mostly fit well on bug bodies
etc.
i rly like how Unown head fusions look
in some cases
hidden bison
well there are exeptions
as mentioned with unown
it does not look pretty if its the body
but it works rly well as a head
velvet dawn
Should I make a snorlax porygon, or wait to make a chansey porygon?
chilly void
violet field
Umbreon says hi.
On an unrelated note, What's that google drive thing @hidden bison showed last monday where you can compare how different pokemon would pair up as fusions? And, could all those resources be pinned somewhere?
flint loom
there is one on the drive accessible in th pin message on spritework somewhere (game informations maybe ?). But I don't like that one. I like this one better : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10XGFUSyw07qz4gD6l10QTrwy-vFKBV7fRpcv1GgAZbA/edit#gid=1396032029
I made it base on the one SAMURIADI made a while ago (which wasn't pin on the pokemon infinit fusion drive either)
I recomand making a copy on your own drive so you arn't bother by other people trying to check their own fusion
velvet dawn
oh wow this looks way better than the other one! O.O
steep sandal
@flint loom Why Rattata appears as Dark Normal on it ?
flint loom
because there is no dark type in gen 1 so the dev decide to change some types
steep sandal
But it's not in the game yet right ?
flint loom
what do you mean ?
steep sandal
Meowth definetely is
Well Rattata in my game is pure normal, Meowth is indeed Dark type
but on the chart Rattata is displayed as Dark/Normal
flint loom
mmm, I guess It was change back then
steep sandal
not a huge deal anyway :p
is there any easy way to have an indication of the stat point won/lost after fusion
Like comparing a Bulbattata to a Bulbasaur for instance
flint loom
I created the chart based on the pokemon.txt file. Maybe it isn't up to date anymore
steep sandal
it's still incredibly useful though, thanks!
flint loom
column H shows you if a stats is higher in the fusion or in the egular mon
F1 is fusion 1 , and F2 fusion 2
steep sandal
haaaa I never noticed that the signs were actually changing lol
I thought it was just excel mumbo jumbo for the formula to work lol
I'm really dumb
flint loom
na, I just put so much stuff on the chart that it's start to feel to much to separate it into more column (I don't want to need to scroll)
steep sandal
Wouldn't it be easier to put the two sides by sides aligned with the other stats though ?
it would easily fit
flint loom
it could fit but then it will be next to the other things
I would liked to be easy to read without guessing where start what and where it ends
steep sandal
just moving the Bulbasaur column next to the Rattata one and move them both down to the same level
flint loom
well, you are welcom to make a copy of the chart and moving it if you want to x)
steep sandal
lol
fair enough :p
Where did you get the database for the data ? I wanted to try to see if I could add "possible ability" too
steep sandal
you rock
flint loom
well, don't thanks me to early. It will be a paint to get the abilities from that =p
steep sandal
yeah I saw that 😄
I'm not sure I'm skilled enough to do it, but I'm crazy and stubborn
and I can see myself spending hours tonight in excel tweaking stuff around lol
flint loom
do you know what's a regex is ?
flint loom
do you know any script language ?
steep sandal
I think not
lusty oriole
good luck then 😉
flint loom
well. You gonna have a tough time then
flint loom
Here, I modify teh script I made back in the day to parse the pokemon.txt to also take the abilities line and here is the result.
I didn't took the hidden ability line though.
be aware that because not every pokemon have the same number of type and abilities, it won't aline properly if you just make a copy past
steep sandal
I'm afraid I need to catch up on a lot of stuff before sadly lol
First I'm working on being able to replicate the formula you're using to show the + and -
which shouldn't be hard, but it's not stuff I'm used to do either
flint loom
I wasn't used to either when I made that file don't worry ahah
steep sandal
on top of that I'm using a different software so different formula language and doing it in my native language (french)
so I'm really not making it easier on me
flint loom
well I am french also so if you want help just dm me
vivid briar
I'm french too xDD
flint loom
Lot of peoples are in here. I guess french like pokemon ahah.
velvet dawn
you got a region based of you, didn't you?
vivid briar
... Well it's just the north. And I'm from the south of France.
vivid briar
Nah I think my city appears in a film
The rock and fairy Legendary type
Diancie ??
lusty oriole
yes
velvet dawn
Another cool default sprite:
vivid briar
Coolest Pokémon I ever fight.
blissful ginkgo
any fusion with voltorb as the body scares me
worldly cove
modest rock
worldly cove
No.
blissful ginkgo
gastly is even worse if it evolves into haunter/voltorb and you consider haunter's enteries
worldly cove
paper linden
steep sandal
Some fusions look like legit Pokés xD
paper linden
i assure you
that is not a legit poke
i hope it isnt
im scared for when it evolves
what have you done
steep sandal
Bulba Jr. is adorable !
lusty oriole
I like the ice cream hair style
steep sandal
all baby pokémons make for great fusions
paper linden
@steep sandal do not evolve it lmao
steep sandal
you haven't seen the last form
paper linden
but you used mime.jr's body
steep sandal
yeah I know
steep sandal
well it will have Venusaur's head
lusty oriole
both sides evolve
steep sandal
your screen just gave me an idea
paper linden
@steep sandal
pallid ore
am i stupid or why can i not use your fusion preview? i can't choose any mons
steep sandal
If I eventually manage to get the 70 000+ fusions working in the spreadsheet I'll make a special sheet for screenshot purpose
with a good background
it's in the top left
all yellow boxes with arrow you can interact with
you can either type what you want to see or click in the list
pallid ore
thats the thing, i dont get any arrows and cant type
steep sandal
let me check
pallid ore
not allowed to change anything it says
steep sandal
I may have messed with the security
problem solved
my bad
I made a sneaky update to avoid for everybody to get a new link
and forgot to remove the security on the cells :p
flint loom
Sombrero use Sneaky update. It's supper effective. Sombrero took damage from recoil
pallid ore
ah yes, now it's working as intended 👌
pallid ore
rhyperior/hitmonchan or hitmonchan/rhyperior? 🤔
rhyperior/hitmon has better typing and higher speed. earthquake stab
hitmon/rhyperior slightly better stats but worse typing
aaaaaah
pallid ore
rock/fighting such a bad typing though
paper linden
not really
it loses its weakness to flying
oh wait
it gains like
4 weaknesses
ice
grass
water
pallid ore
pallid ore
ground/fight and rock/fight
paper linden
honestly
pallid ore
also earthquake stab seems nice
paper linden
just fuse something else together
pallid ore
its a nuzlocke
paper linden
this fusion just screams "problems"
oh
rip
then wait till you get something else
it isnt worth it lmao
pallid ore
i have to fuse 2 mons from same route
paper linden
you doin rando nuzlocke?
pallid ore
yes
paper linden
r i p
paper linden
paper linden
paper linden
paper linden
better
vivid briar
Tanky questionable thing
vivid briar
I like the colors
paper linden
paper linden
wooper x jynx
vivid briar
That's a meme
vivid briar
Quagsire and Jynx might be amazing
paper linden
wot
fading condor
Hello!
vivid briar
H E L L O
vivid briar
How
hidden bison
😄
paper linden
oh my god
hidden bison
even you
vivid briar
WHO WOULD FUSE QUILFISH
hidden bison
quilfish is pretty okay
hidden bison
hmm i think someone made a custom sprite for Noctmime
vivid briar
Well the white is weird
paper linden
oh no
hidden bison
btw did you know that if you replace the normal sprites with custom sprites they will appear on the start screen
hidden bison
dont hate on Nose
paper linden
OMG
vivid briar
Not really
vivid briar
AAAAH
hidden bison
ye Mamoswine body is so large
paper linden
MAMOSWINE AND PERSIAN
tepid sable
one big kitty
hidden bison
it makes any head blurry
vivid briar
M E O W
paper linden
hapi boi
vivid briar
Oh he's so cute
tepid sable
took three tries
vivid briar
I like it honestly
hidden bison
Woobuffet/Kingler
paper linden
the demon?
vivid briar
Oddish with Wynot face is good too
tepid sable
Wobbler?
vivid briar
Oh my what
vivid briar
... Yes.
tepid sable
yes
vivid briar
Oh my kdsnfllq
tepid sable
Omg cute
vivid briar
The Onix one skskfolsc
tepid sable
Who needs a whole Onix anyway
paper linden
want articuno?
paper linden
vivid briar
NO
tepid sable
beecuno
vivid briar
WHAT
tepid sable
majestic
tepid sable
Oddish aint playin around
paper linden
@vivid briar want entei x tentacool?
want it or ot
not
i have it
its amazing
@tepid sable want entei and tentacool fusion?
velvet dawn
paper linden
i jsut watch the main menu
and screenshot the good ones
@hidden bison thank you for making this game and the main menu, you have provided a new profile picture for me
velvet dawn
lusty oriole
so does that thing have a large white mouth or a spiral one?
velvet dawn
it's mouth is closed
see the bit where the white dips down between the eyes? that's it's mouth
lusty oriole
nope can't unsee the giant white chasm of a mouth
paper linden
@lusty oriole baby thanos
lusty oriole
oh god kill it with fire
lusty oriole
steps in then quickly leaves
lusty oriole
I mean nice mohawk?
paper linden
dont leave... the fun has just started!
@lusty oriole ya like fossils?
omg
bastiodon
lusty oriole
if it was less pixeley he would be cute
lusty oriole
that one works so well
paper linden
lusty oriole
digletts real body
lusty oriole
nah its a tickle monster
lusty oriole
be nice to ditto he just wants friends
vivid briar
paper linden
not with that tho
lusty oriole
is that elmo in drag?
paper linden
wtf
vivid briar
wtf
vivid briar
paper linden
the gatekeeper
lusty oriole
heatran 
paper linden
vivid briar
So much hats
paper linden
paper linden
omg this is pure
lusty oriole
that thing will kill you in your sleep
lusty oriole
NEVER
lusty oriole
see look at it I will die from the radiation
lusty oriole
that's like an old chicken that never stopped being a chick
paper linden
purugly and tropius
lmao
add mawile to anything other than mawile
the results
awh it cropped out
vivid briar
Oh my god
velvet dawn
lusty oriole
look at this guy devouring planets
velvet dawn
lusty oriole
can't look away from the eye
tepid sable
wailuminati confirmed
velvet dawn
hidden bison
Do you want defense or offence?
velvet dawn
wellllll.... it's got high HP, recover, and recycle+lum berry
so it's pretty defensive curently
velvet dawn
makes sense
although I cant make it immune to status effects if I trade the lum berry for eviolite
(also another mon on my team has the eviolite currently.)
hidden bison
Full restore?
velvet dawn
No items in trainer battles, self-imposed rule
hidden bison
Well go for Z with lum berry then
velvet dawn
(actually, no consumable items strictly speaking)
not 2 with lum berry?
it would still have better defense...
hidden bison
No point in 2 without the eviolite
velvet dawn
(I mean it'll be a while before I get the upgrade anyway, so I'll have time to think)
hidden bison
Z gets adaptability
velvet dawn
point...
hidden bison
Its gonna rek with body slam
velvet dawn
wouldn't a special move be better?
hidden bison
Depends on the nature
velvet dawn
it's currently using hypervoice
velvet dawn
I guess it's got a Sp. attack boosting nature, because the one in game def has higher special
hidden bison
Probably + sp.atk - atk
velvet dawn
makes sense
hidden bison
I see
velvet dawn
I honestly don't remember colors on any mon's stats... is there a special thing you need to do?
velvet dawn
true I guess
hidden bison
No colors means its a neutral nature
And unless your mon has 31 IVs in sp.atk idk how it could have higher sp. Atk
velvet dawn
idk
hidden bison
If its with a neutral nature
velvet dawn
no I mean
I've never seen colors on any mon
is this the thing where you look at the base stats? I never figured out if you could do that or not
hidden bison
The colors are on the numbers not on the sprites
Where you check the numbers of your stats atk def sp.atk sp.def and speed
velvet dawn
I could have sworn there were never any colors. Do you need to press a button?
and these are it's current stats you're talking about, not base stats?
gentle oriole
where are all these sprites taken from?
velvet dawn
@gentle oriole https://www.dragonflycave.com/resources/sprite-generator
velvet dawn
What do you mean?
gentle oriole
images like this. were these made on their own or were they custom made?
lusty oriole
procedularly done I believe
gentle oriole
ok thanks
steep sandal
You can also find custom sprites made by people shared on the google doc for the game
there's more and more by the day it's quite nice
My Tanchu looks pretty awesome thanks to whoever made that sprite :p
paper linden
@steep sandal can you send me a link to the google doc sprite thing you mentioned?
hidden bison
Its pinned in #spriting-discussion
violet field
Is there a way to know what level a pokemon will become when you de-fuse them?
Just wanna know how high I need to get my Umbreon/Ponyta before splitting it solely to learn Moonlight
(Or should I split it now and put them back together later?)
Wait, nevermind
Shit
I can't because I fused two trade mons together.
Say, is Moonlight available as a tutor/TM?
simple osprey
can't you use the move relearner?
violet field
Won't that still operate off of the Fused Pokemon version of the moveset?
simple osprey
wait, does umbreon not learn moonlight in it's bw moveset?
violet field
The original plan was to level the mon up past where the individual mon learns it, then split them down to one level before
Umbreon does, but at 71 as opposed to 33
simple osprey
oh, welp
violet field
I take that to mean no tutors or anything?
simple osprey
there ain't a tutor or tm for moonlight
violet field
Fuck...
And no way to split a traded fusion (Which this now counts as, even if the trades were two normal mons and I fused them...)
simple osprey
only way to unfuse them is to use the super splicer, which is sadly available after beating the 8th gym
or by randomly getting it if you have random items selected
obsidian shore
Would a togekiss head scizor body be fariy/steel?
I feel like it'd be a pretty good mixed attacker
worn bison
yes
obsidian shore
okay good
lusty oriole
that one just wants to be a clown
paper linden
inbred bulbasaur
jacksfilms
wtf
super inbred bulbasar
nidoking + nidoranM = kinda normal
omg blastoise + torkoal
pallid ore
just got this in my nuzlocke, pretty good. but why is weavile not able to learn sucker punch. damn, would have been sick with priority stab on sucker punch and bullet punch :(
gentle oriole
that is a kinda unfortunate nature
paper linden
r i p
pallid ore
yeah, but i can change it later on
i dont care about the nature, i want sucker punch >:(
jade crow
Is there a type calculator for fusions?
jade crow
i want a dragon/dark for kingdra/tyranitar