#fusions

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jaunty orbit
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distant dagger
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Did you fall asleep on your keyboard?

jaunty orbit
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oops, sorry

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Got distracted cleaning it and didn;t notice :/ Hahaha

jaunty orbit
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Super bummed, traded the guy in Cerulean for a Charmander with Solar Power and a solid SpAtk stat, but I won't be able to fuse him w/o losing that 😦

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Is this Charmander supposed to be shiny or something because every IV calculator I plug him into says he shouldn't have these stats. Apparently his speed should be at least 26.

proud crane
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the pokémon you traded for that charmander was low level. Charmander's stats are currently set according to that level. After you use it in a battle, its stats should recalculate to something sensible

jaunty orbit
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Oh cool, that's interesting. Thanks for that, it was wigging me out that his base stats didn't even match up 😃

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Yep, one battle and his stats completely changed. ty

proud crane
jaunty orbit
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He's legit got a perfect special IV D: I'm kinda sad to think I'll lose the ability if I fuse him

hidden bison
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Gengar + porygon2 maybe porygon-z

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who should be the body

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i think gengar

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yeah

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okay so I've fused the two 4 times and I just keep getting levitate

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when I want trace

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is it random or based off of the first selection?

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wtf so the head, body, ability, and pokeball are all selected based off of your first selection

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then why does the forums and ingame say different

jaunty orbit
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I complained about this ealier

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The faq isn't up to date and I'm an idiot

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I should have said something when @proud crane was online.

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It makes some combos impossible with the base you want. I prefered 3.1.3 fusion with levels determining body/head.

rose dune
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Luckily ability capsules are at crimson city so you can switch them

jaunty orbit
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What's the go with ability capsules?

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I know nothing about them. Can you pick an ability, or just swap between each pokemons 1st?

hidden bison
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swap

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if you have 1

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it gives you the other

jaunty orbit
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That's pretty cool

proud crane
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fixed the faq

rustic canyon
distant dagger
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The glassiest 'cannon'

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My profile picture looks like I'm mad at everyone now

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Why must life be so cruel to me

jaunty orbit
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@hidden bison Where can I find ability capsules in game?

distant dagger
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Somewhere in Crimson City I think

jaunty orbit
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Thanks mate 😃

hidden bison
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house above crimson city

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accessible through surf

jaunty orbit
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Thanks heaps, they'll help out since the last ability I want from me eevee fusions is Run away

hidden bison
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what did you fuse it with ?

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eevee gives different abilities when it evolves

jaunty orbit
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Good point. It'll be Bellossom/Flareon

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Flash fire could be good because he'll be tanky. Idk what Bellosm gives, but chlorophyll would be nice since I plan on using Sunny Day/Moonlight

hidden bison
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synthesis would be better for Sunny day tbh

jaunty orbit
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I thinkn so too

hidden bison
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Moonlight heals less in sun i think

jaunty orbit
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Nah, it heals for 1/2 in sun 1/4 in no weather

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accordign to bulbapedia anyway

hidden bison
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hmm

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isnt it the other way around ?

jaunty orbit
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I thought so too, that's why I checked.

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I guess I should double check another source

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hang on

hidden bison
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guess it does heal more in sun

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so it is identical to synthesis

jaunty orbit
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I just checked that too

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It's different to bulba

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But both say more heal in sun

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So coolio 😃 I wonder why Oddish and it's line learn moonlight over synthesis though

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Some sources suggest increased healing at night too

hidden bison
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idk cuz it buries its body during the night

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i remember reading that somewhere

jaunty orbit
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They're nocturnal aren't they? Maybe that's it. They do also learn other fairy type moves

hidden bison
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During the day, it stays in the cold underground to avoid the sun. It grows by bathing in moonlight.

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it was the other way around 😄

jaunty orbit
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That explains Moonlight too 😃

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I guess they just don't need Synthesis because Moonlight is more lore appropriate XD

hidden bison
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ye

hidden bison
jaunty orbit
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XD it looks like a maccas toy

proud crane
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It looks like you bought a heracross from Ikea but it didn't come with instructions

distant dagger
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And you accidentally dropped it in [something funny thats red and yellow]

proud crane
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you accidentally put it in a hamburger

distant dagger
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^

rose dune
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That feeling when you get the idea of a Heracross looking like one of your favorite mechs from super robot wars but the type is either Bug/Fighting (Scizor/Heracross) and Dark/Fighting (Bisharp/Heracross) but you just want a badass Steel/Bug or Steel/Fighting

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Can't really tell how'd bisharp would look due to no Gen 5 generator on the website yet

distant dagger
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You could just use Heracross/Scizor and use the Scizor/Heracross sprite

rose dune
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Hmm, good idea. I should have thought of that

hidden bison
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that robot really does look like it wth

jaunty orbit
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Why not just use the robot as a sprite?

rose dune
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Hard to find good sprites of it. The sprite I posted is of an attack its doing

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Also awesome sprite Geekman, Heracross is one of my favorite bugs and the red on it just makes it look even better

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Heracross being 2nd to the joltik line for me

rustic canyon
rose dune
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I thought that was too small to use in the fusions game

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not sure how spriting works in games like these so I assumed it had to be a specific size or not work at all

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certain box size I mean

rustic canyon
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you can always resize

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I can do it for you if you want too ^^

rose dune
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oh that'd be cool.

rustic canyon
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which sprite will be replaced?

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scizor/heracross or heracross/scizor?

rose dune
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Good question

rustic canyon
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and which sprite of alteisen you want

rose dune
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May just save it for if Bisharp is added in the future, since bisharp would probably match it better than Scizor, due to the arm blades vs Alt's Revolver stake on its arms.

rustic canyon
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Okay I will resize and save it then

rose dune
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Awesome

rustic canyon
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I take the one I showed or you want a specific from spriters resource?

rose dune
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Didn't realize there was a difference between Alt in OG 1 and 2. The more you know XD, may also be because Alt gets upgraded in 2

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The first sprite does look a bit better to me

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May in the future request a fusion sprite that has some characteristics of Alt.

rustic canyon
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yeah ^^

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resized sprite is ready

rose dune
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Alright sweet

jade crow
rose dune
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Oh thats awesome

jaunty orbit
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wow, nice!

jade crow
hidden bison
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nOsE

jade summit
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if you fuse pokemon which one takes the nature

rose dune
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The first one

jade summit
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meaning the higher level or the first one you select?

tepid sable
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Depends on whether you are playing 3.1 or the 4.0 playtest

rose dune
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4.0 is the first you select

jade summit
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theres a 4.0 playtest? o_o

tepid sable
proud crane
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Nature is inherited from the first one selected regardless of what version you have

jade summit
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sweet

near locust
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Really sucks that a Togetic/kiss head always has Hustle as the ability 😦

distant dagger
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Serene Grace too OP

near locust
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Hustle sucks tho, reduces accuracy for no real gain

distant dagger
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It gives a 50% boost to POWAH

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It does suck tho

near locust
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Is it 50%? Thought it was 30% or 33%

distant dagger
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According to bulbapedia it's 50]

near locust
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Wow ok

distant dagger
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Though 20% less accuracy, which means that even 100% accuracy moves only hit 1/10 times

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Because in Pokémon 80%=10%

near locust
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Yup

distant dagger
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Which is definitely a fact

near locust
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Togekiss has no real use then

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As a body it only gives flying type

distant dagger
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Besides it's pretty good stats and very good movepool I guess not

jade summit
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if you unfuse pokemon do you get the DNA Splicers back?

hidden bison
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Hustle does not affect specal moves

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And ability capsule is a thing too

jaunty orbit
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@jade summit nope, you'll just be down 1-2 splicers

flint loom
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80% is 10%?? Really ? How so ? Then 90% is 5% ? I didn't knew that

hidden bison
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Well he meant that anything below 100% has a very high chance to miss

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It was a figure of speech

flint loom
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I see. I guess we are remembering more the time we miss thay the time we land so it appear to be more frequent ahah

distant dagger
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ARGH THAT ARCANINE IS TOO PURE

indigo mirage
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mon made it

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iirc

jaunty orbit
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Victreeape is great, I'm using that too. But the sprite sits too low and gets lost behind the attacks

hidden bison
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its probably because its been made for 3.1

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the playtest uses a different size for the sprites

jaunty orbit
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it is. I resized it to 288 and it went too big. I think I ended up going 1.5X with it. Looks a tiny bit pixelated from the blow up, but it's bearable

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A shame though, because the sprite is incredible. I'd love to ask the artist to do it again in 288

worn bison
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it's-ah me

jaunty orbit
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XD

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Mario, make-a me a resized a-sprite-a

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please

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-a

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XD

worn bison
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maah I'll do it dontah worri

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can u tell me the numbah

jaunty orbit
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np bae, hang on.

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I tried to resize myslef but probs easier with the original file

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He's 71.57

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No rush though, he's working acceptably atm. But if you do resize any I'd love that one.

worn bison
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71.57 u sure?

worldly cove
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the head is the first number no?

worn bison
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yup

worldly cove
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ok

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so I renumerotated everything ok

jaunty orbit
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That's what I have it as

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I'm confident about 57

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Hang on

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yeah, 71.57, assuming Victreebell head?

worn bison
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yes

jaunty orbit
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Definitely the right numbers then. Gen 1 numbers haven't changed have they? Just the gen 3 evos?

worldly cove
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I renumerotated 51 mons

jaunty orbit
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That's a lot of work, but the sprites will still be the wrong size, unfortunately

worldly cove
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I will resize them after

jaunty orbit
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Man, you deserve a cake for your hard work

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Nobody wanted to do this

worldly cove
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Who the hell is this?!

distant dagger
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Hmm

jaunty orbit
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Vileplume?

hidden bison
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i think its supposed to be tangela

jaunty orbit
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no

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oh maybe

worn bison
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ah, the pokemon

jaunty orbit
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It must be gen 1

worldly cove
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is 1020 pokemon

worn bison
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it's tangela

worldly cove
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tangela?

worn bison
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yep

jaunty orbit
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It definitely needs vines

worldly cove
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yep

jaunty orbit
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It's rly nice though

distant dagger
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But it isnt really tangela

worldly cove
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it is number 114.6

worn bison
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I did a tangela head one and it's not easy

worldly cove
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wait

distant dagger
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Design wise I mean

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Not number wise

worldly cove
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114.6 is a number?

distant dagger
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Well, yeah, it's charizard and tangela, but it doesnt really look like it

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That's what I meant by design wise but not number wise

worldly cove
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eh it look cool

jaunty orbit
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I'm torn by that one, I'd probably prefer recoloured Blastoise eyes

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Tangela is super hard though, you'd have to draw your own tangels

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Someone did a neat pidgey line with Tangela

worldly cove
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ok after I renumerotate them I have to resize after that I should verify the number of the pokemon to see if is corect

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I need help with something

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who is better

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lol

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the 2 nd is 240x240

jaunty orbit
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I can't decide with that, If only the Primape arms didn't look like twigs

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I prefer him the other way anyway 😄

worldly cove
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...

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the second is bigger so I think the second will be better

jaunty orbit
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I like the head and belly on the first, I might try to put those on the big one

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one day

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I already ahve a list XD

worldly cove
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hm

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first really look good

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thanks

flint loom
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I wonder what tangela looks like behind the vines.

worn bison
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a brain and a skeleton

worldly cove
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The bomb that is in mario

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the one with red shoes

distant dagger
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I wonder what Diglett's feet look like

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I wonder what's inside Forretress' shell

worldly cove
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....

distant dagger
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I wonder if there's a dead guy inside of Cofagrigus

worldly cove
jaunty orbit
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I ❤ him!

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wait, I've seen the Beedos

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It's amazing

hidden bison
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this evolves int Gyaradrill tho

jaunty orbit
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whichever way round

hidden bison
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there are sprites for both

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and they are quite different

jaunty orbit
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oh

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Well they're probs both good

hidden bison
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well ye

worldly cove
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I finished the butterfree fusions

jaunty orbit
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ooh

worldly cove
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now weedle

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I take a break

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81 mons

jaunty orbit
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Someone get this man a cake

worldly cove
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Lol

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I just started

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It will take some time

jaunty orbit
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That's why you need cake

fallen ruin
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helo

hidden bison
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Helo

crude sinew
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Holla, die Waldfee mr_owl

rustic canyon
fallen ruin
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I made a little creation, more precisely a fusion

hidden bison
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hmm the pixels look so blurry

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what image did you use ?

fallen ruin
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and that image

hidden bison
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ye they are both quite blurry

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hmm you could use the ones in the game's graphics folder

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they are not blurry

hidden bison
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He is my Friend

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He will help with resizeing

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And I'm Alphy

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On my second acont

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😄 why do you have multiple accounts

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If my first acount get banned

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hmm guess that makes sense

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no reason to try and get banned tho

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Not on this server

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On discord

rustic canyon
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BAnned on discord 🤔

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Didn't know it was possible

hidden bison
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Yep

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Us possible

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I have done that

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On my firsf acount

rustic canyon
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Congrats 👏

hidden bison
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Alphy is the secound

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And this is the 3 rd acount

rustic canyon
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wtf xD

hidden bison
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I'm a good Boy

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That is why i get banned

rustic canyon
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ofc

hidden bison
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What

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Ofc =

rustic canyon
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Of course <_ç

hidden bison
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Thanks

lavish orbit
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How do you get discord banned 🤔

rustic canyon
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insulting badly someone who report you?

flint loom
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wow, fusions 89.148 / 88.148 / 89.149 look amazing on the drive 😮

hidden bison
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ohh the Grimer/dragonair line huh

flint loom
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yeah, I want those now !

hidden bison
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i did not make a dratini version cuz it was in randomizer and i got dragonair directly

flint loom
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I see.

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You have a lot of patience, I made my splandid patato dratini + wigglypuff and I still didn't had the motivation to make the two evolution. Even though I already have the final form in game

hidden bison
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well i have fun making the sprites

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if you are having fun

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its not a problem

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my latest sprite has quite a bit of work in its effects too

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its not for this game tho 😄

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and its not a fusion so i should not be linking it here

jade summit
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holy crap thats dope

flint loom
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It is pretty good indeed. Let just say it's a pixel fusions, we won't tell anyone 😉

jaunty orbit
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Thinking od doing a Meowth fusion w/ Heracross. Any thoughts?

surreal lantern
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Would a Vensaur mixed with a Snorlax be powerful?

proud crane
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Basically anything mixed with a Snorlax is powerful, though Venusaur/Snorlax mixes Atk and SpAtk. It'll have great HP and SpDef, though.

tawdry eagle
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Ledypix (Ledyba and vulpix) is the best name ever

rose dune
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Replace vulpix with toxapex

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Ledypex 😄

tawdry eagle
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XD

tawdry eagle
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Im dying. Now i fused cubone and mankey and have manbone

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Manbone and ledypix

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omg my lungs

wild yarrow
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try fusing grimer and cubone

tawdry eagle
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Hah oml

tawdry eagle
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Im crying XD

fallen ruin
worldly cove
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lol

fallen ruin
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Ș)

hidden bison
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Is the blue supposed to be electricity ?

fallen ruin
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yes

hidden bison
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It looks like ice right now

worldly cove
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Goldy is just trying

hidden bison
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Ye the rest of the sprite looks good

tawdry eagle
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I like it c: but it needs a little more depth imo, it looks like its coming out of the side

hidden bison
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Well there are some shading issues too

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But shading is a more advanced thing

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So i dont mention it normally

worldly cove
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Universez do you like mine?

hidden bison
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Which one ?

worldly cove
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on spritework

hidden bison
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Sec ill see it

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Btw sprites like this should be linked there

tawdry eagle
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Smearduo wants to die

flint loom
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And his second head doesn't give two sh*t about it

jaunty orbit
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So, Horsea body fusions

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They will eventually become Dragon type when they evolve into Kingdra, correct?

tepid sable
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Yes, they should.

jaunty orbit
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Sweet

distant dagger
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But at lvl 55 I think

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So meh

tawdry eagle
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I thought all trade evolutions evolve at 40?

jaunty orbit
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lvl 50 for some reason, but oh well

distant dagger
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Because kingdra is op

rose dune
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Not so much anymore due to the boosts being gone

tawdry eagle
tepid sable
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Machoke

ashen vapor
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can someone do a articuno and dragonite fusion ?

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i thought it would look cool ( its also on my team )

hidden bison
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hmm

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well i guess i can make it

ashen vapor
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awesome !!

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oops sorry i thought i was on sprite work..

hidden bison
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😄

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so articuno head right ?

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which game version ?

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3.1 or 4.0

fathom venture
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What's a fusion that is really powerful?

tawdry eagle
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A ghost dark type would be pretty good

fathom venture
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Is there any cool fusions that you can get sort of early on?

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I already have a Mr. Gela who is like a military tank and a Charmeleon Machop who has really good attack

tawdry eagle
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What poke is the gela?

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Tangela?

fathom venture
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yeah

tawdry eagle
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Sounds beefy

fathom venture
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it is

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bad thing is, it has a lot of weaknesses

tawdry eagle
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Ive only played randomized so far but if you get a cubone and horsea, those make a pretty powerful pair with only weakness being 4x grass

fathom venture
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but it has lots of defense so it is good

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oh thanks

tawdry eagle
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Good mixed offensive with high hp and defense

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Kinda slow thow

fathom venture
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sounds like it would look cool too

tawdry eagle
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First evolution looks dope as hell imo

fathom venture
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nice

flint loom
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In my fist playthrough i got a gyrados (h)/golem (b) . It wasn't very tough on special defense but it's defense and attaque was pretty good and I used the combo defense curl + rollout pretty often, making it pretty powerfull. I also had dragon dance so I can quickly increase my speed and attack. (it is water/rock)

distant dagger
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Does that mean that this is a failed resurrection of Kabuto?

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I mean, the name is still Kabuto

flint loom
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ahah, I guess it is.

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kabu blob

fathom venture
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What is a good Sandshrew fusion?

tepid sable
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Sandslash results the best as a body.
So I'd suggest fusing it either with a water-type head or a flying-type head.

snow crane
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flying is clean yeah

north thistle
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you make a bootleg landorus with flying

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but yeah it's pretty good

snow crane
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I have a sandslash with golbat literally called Lando

hidden bison
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😄

north thistle
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yeah i'm running sandslash/pidgeot atm

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why'd you chose golbat body over sandslash?

snow crane
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Because I liked it

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That's the only reason

north thistle
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fair enough

hidden bison
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i dont care about mon stats when i play

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i just fuse what looks good

crimson siren
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If I don't like the way it looks, I started editing my own sprites.

fathom venture
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What is something powerful that I can fuse Kabuto with?

crimson siren
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I'm trying to remember, whic stats does the head give and which do the body give again?

distant dagger
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Kabuto is very physical

proud crane
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Head is HP, SpAtk, and SpDef

crimson siren
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Then use Kabuto/Kabutops as the body. Its top stats are Speed, Attack, and DEF.

proud crane
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Kabutops is a fantastic body. Its stats are built perfectly and it gets STAB Crabhammer from a quest in Vermilion City.

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Stabcrammer

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Crabstammer

distant dagger
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Basically, if you're going for stats, don't do what I did with my kabuto

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Or Gastly

proud crane
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yeah you kinda read the instructions upside-down on that one

crimson siren
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Kyogre head seems to be a great pair with Kabutops Body.

distant dagger
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Well I was going for looks and type

crimson siren
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Not just pure stats?

distant dagger
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Omanyte might have been better but still

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If I went for just stats, I made a huge mistake

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But I wasn't

crimson siren
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Oh wait there is no Kyogre.

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Porygon-Z? It has a moveset that can allow it to change its type which with Adaptability increases STAB from 1.5x to 2x,

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Then again I'm playing the playtest so I'm not sure if Porygon-Z is in the earlier versions.

fathom venture
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I was thinking Blissey

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but that would take a while to get

proud crane
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Hitmonlee/Kabutops.

fathom venture
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really?

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that doesn't sound very good

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btw if Kabutops is body what type is it

proud crane
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Hitmonlee/Kabutops - Fighting/Water - HP 53, Atk 117, Def 88, SpAtk 45, SpDef 97, Speed 82 - BST 482

fathom venture
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isn't distribution split

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like body gets attack def speed

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head gets sp def sp attack hp

proud crane
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yep

fathom venture
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I don't think it is averaged

proud crane
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it's a weighted average. The fusion takes 2/3rds of Hitmonlee's HP plus 1/3 of Kabutops's HP, etc.

fathom venture
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oooh

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I didn't know that

proud crane
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So even though Hitmonlee is a head, you still get 40 of its base 120 attack, plus 77 of Kabutops's 115 atk. You get also the better share of Hitmonlee's massive SpDef to bolster Kabutops's lack of SpDef

fathom venture
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wow, that sounds really good

proud crane
#

I've found that Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan make pretty good heads for physical pokémon

fathom venture
#

thanks for letting me know

proud crane
fathom venture
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Hitmontops looks pretty cool too

proud crane
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him too

crimson siren
fathom venture
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oh yeah

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Btw, is Sandslash body and Noctowl head any good?

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I got it and I was thinking it might be of us

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of use

proud crane
#

Those are the correct positions for those pokémon, give me a moment to check how it is

fathom venture
#

thanks

proud crane
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Noctowl/Sandslash - Ground/Flying - HP 92, Atk 83, Def 90, SpAtk 66, SpDef 82, Speed 67 - BST 480

crimson siren
#

Anyone have a link to the calc sheet?

proud crane
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Not a lot of attack power, and I happen to know that Sandslash gets pretty much no good attacks without tms, but reasonably durable

fathom venture
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aww man

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I thought iwas going to be better

crimson siren
#

Thanks. Now I just need OpenOffice since Google Docs can't seem to be able to edit ODS docs.

proud crane
#

at lv22 I think it will actually be pretty strong. As the game goes on, other pokémon will get better, but Noctslash won't. It'll help against Lt. Surge, though.

fathom venture
#

Thanks

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I guess it will probably my early game lead

proud crane
#

Try right clicking on it and Open With -> Google Sheets

fathom venture
#

after Erika

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I will probably replace it

crimson siren
fathom venture
#

What are some powerful fusions you recommend?
I got myself a Mr. Gela early on and it has helped me greatly

proud crane
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I get that error when I double click, then select "Open with Google Sheets" above the preview, but not when I right-click it

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Mr. Gela is older than you know.

fathom venture
#

what

proud crane
#

I used a Mr. Gela in March of 2016

crimson siren
#

Yeah, I like these stats with Porygon-Z as the head. I'll go for it as soon as I can.

proud crane
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He's a house

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He carried the game

fathom venture
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Yeah I knew about that

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in the forums I heard someone talking good about it

crimson siren
#

I love my Snorfing myself right now.

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And oddly, despite its stats, Jigglyrogue. It has a nice moveset that keeps pokemon from doing things and a decent HP + DEF.

fathom venture
#

how do I open the sheet

proud crane
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Try right clicking on it and Open With -> Google Sheets

fathom venture
#

thanks

fathom venture
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What stats do these games take?

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what generation

proud crane
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gen 5, I think.

fathom venture
#

thanks

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I just realized 1 of my pokemon will probably have to be replaced someday

crimson siren
wraith ermine
#

its gonna force you to listen to its lulaby no matter how far it has to go to find you ~

snow crane
#

That design looks cool

jaunty orbit
#

That's some anime canon for you right there

wraith ermine
#

I was thinking the same thing penycat

proud crane
#

the truth

flint loom
#

omg ! this generated sprite is the worse. it look like it have a hole in his throat and a tongue is ggetting out of it

crimson siren
#

lol. Time to fix.

sterile patrol
rustic canyon
#

🍆 + this 🤔

sterile patrol
#

this game is fantastic

hidden bison
#

WOOOOOOOOPIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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there are alot of funny names 😄

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look forward to seeing them

sterile patrol
hidden bison
#

😄

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Oh Mama

fathom venture
#

What Pokemon would work with Gengar?

hidden bison
#

almost any pokemon

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put gengar as the face on almost any body

fathom venture
#

oh nice

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would it work better with something fast

hidden bison
#

well ye

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and something that has acceptable sp.atk stat

fathom venture
#

I was thinking Persian

hidden bison
#

so that it does not ruin gengar's

fathom venture
#

so I am going to check the stats

hidden bison
#

Umbreon is better

fathom venture
#

true

hidden bison
#

gives more bulk

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less speed tho

fathom venture
#

oh ok

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what about Jolteon body?

hidden bison
#

if you manage to get levitate

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its great

fathom venture
#

nice

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Would Jolteon Gengar be Electric Ghost?

hidden bison
#

ye

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make sure gengar is the head

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for best stat gains

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since type does not change either way

fathom venture
#

yeah I checked

hidden bison
#

the gengar line gives pure ghost in fusions

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since ghost types are so scarce

fathom venture
#

oh great

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where can I get an eevee

flint loom
#

celadon

fathom venture
#

nice

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I am almost there

flint loom
#

In the top of a bulding there is q quest that give evee

fathom venture
#

thanks

fathom venture
#

I just got the Jolteon

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now I have to do the team rocket thing to get a gastly

chilly void
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Or the secret garden where you can find lots of em

fathom venture
#

what is the Secret Garden?

indigo mirage
#

a secret place on route 1

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with some rare mons and good items

fathom venture
#

how do you get there

indigo mirage
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go left on that place

fathom venture
#

thanks

jaunty orbit
#

Would some kind soul pls do the fusion stat calculations for me? The calc doesn't work with open office and I'd like to get more accurate base stats than I can calculate myself.

rugged holly
#

You want 2 specific mons, or a general calculation to plug in base stats?

jaunty orbit
#

yes pls

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TYPHLOSION (body)

Base stats
Stat Range
At Lv. 50 At Lv. 100
HP: 78
138 - 185 266 - 360
Attack: 84
80 - 149 155 - 293
Defense: 78
74 - 143 144 - 280
Sp.Atk: 109
102 - 177 200 - 348
Sp.Def: 85
81 - 150 157 - 295
Speed: 100
94 - 167 184 - 328
Total: 534

VAPOREON (head)

Base stats
Stat Range
At Lv. 50 At Lv. 100
HP: 130
190 - 237 370 - 464
Attack: 65
63 - 128 121 - 251
Defense: 60
58 - 123 112 - 240
Sp.Atk: 110
103 - 178 202 - 350
Sp.Def: 95
90 - 161 175 - 317
Speed: 65
63 - 128 121 - 251
Total: 525

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Those guys if you don't mind

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ty x

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Sorry, just base stats

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I should have deleted the ranges

rugged holly
#

okay

jaunty orbit
#

TYPHLOSION (body)

Base stats
Stat

HP: 78
Attack: 84
Defense: 78
Sp.Atk: 109
Sp.Def: 85
Speed: 100
Total: 534

VAPOREON (head)

Base stats
Stat

HP: 130
Attack: 65
Defense: 60
Sp.Atk: 110
Sp.Def: 95
Speed: 65
Total: 525

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These are clearer

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tyvm

crimson siren
rugged holly
jaunty orbit
#

@crimson siren @rugged holly Thanks heaps guys, I appreciate the help big time. Been busy working on sprites/icons.

velvet mango
#

blissey+ditto

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a ditto with all the hp

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would be crazy

hidden bison
#

We could use a script that tells u before and after base stats of fusions

flint loom
#

in game you mean ?

hidden bison
#

I mean if someones going to take the time to make a program or bat file for it then they might as well make it in rpg maker and put it on the google drive

molten glen
#

Got this one now from wonder trade

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Happy

flint loom
#

Decent trade

molten glen
#

Got the unlimited trades now

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Time to spend my time here!

hidden bison
#

ye i had alot of fun with those

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check the nick names and OT names

molten glen
#

Also... I've heard that you can unfuse the traded mons later once you advance through the game?

hidden bison
#

some are rly funny

molten glen
#

Yeah, I noticed 😄

hidden bison
#

after the 8th gym

molten glen
#

Had a mon called AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

hidden bison
#

you can buy super splicers from silph. co.

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Thats a great wonder trade

molten glen
#

Even happier

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Waited for aerodactyl for so long

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I'm thinking of rerolling hitmonlee from the gym. He's lvl 40 so the trade may actually be useful

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Not like all the lvl 20s and stuff

flint loom
#

mmm.. aeorodactyl is a quest reward though, you could have it outside of the wonder trade

molten glen
#

oh

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Oh well

sterile patrol
#

I just got one a bit ago named Happy Meal lol

molten glen
#

Lmao

jaunty orbit
sterile patrol
crimson siren
#

Upside-down face, lol

sterile patrol
#

lol hitmontop + clefable

molten glen
#

derpos

hidden bison
#

nose

sterile patrol
hidden bison
#

looks pretty good actually

sterile patrol
#

Lighten up Muk, stop taking things so seriously

sterile patrol
hidden bison
#

Supdoode

sterile patrol
#

Seadra + Horsea = Seasea

snow niche
#

Hey guys, what's a good fusion for Blastoise?

brave sedge
#

HAS ANYONE DONE EFFIN CHARADOS?

modest rock
#

yes

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dont be rude about it

brave sedge
#

can i see plis?

#

wus good or?

#

charazyrados type perfekshin

#

charizard body, friggin gyrados head

jaunty orbit
#

I wonder

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If you use DNA reversers, does the base pokemon get changed? Or do IVs, Nature, etc remain those of the original body?

crimson siren
flint loom
#

I heard somewhere that the IV stays and that some people use it to swap some values between the two fuse part

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I didn't test it though

crimson siren
sterile patrol
crimson siren
#

Should change the smoke color. Either green or purple.

sterile patrol
#

that's how it is in game, not an edit lol

crimson siren
#

I know. But it just don't look right to me. That face though screams murder.

sterile patrol
#

lol I wouldn't trust Igglybuff whether they're fused or not, those eyes aren't happy eyes

distant dagger
#

Those eyes are murder eyes

jaunty orbit
#

I better get my own Celebi for all these ridiculous fusions I'm seeing

sterile patrol
jaunty orbit
#

That Suicune looks like a sprite I wanna make 😄

sterile patrol
#

LOL just looks like a naked bird

hidden bison
#

ready for the oven

sterile patrol
sterile patrol
sterile patrol
#

what a great wonder trade LOL

sterile patrol
#

Magnemite got swoll

modest rock
#

oh my god

#

diglet has arms?

sterile patrol
sterile patrol
hidden bison
#

Flafzee

crude sinew
#

Ein Flaf, zee zu knechten ...

sterile patrol
hidden bison
#

i made this

crude sinew
#

By my request.

sterile patrol
#

looks awesome

worldly cove
#

looks like his hair is lava

sterile patrol
agile epoch
#

Gyarados body is flying, right?

agile epoch
#

It is water

hidden bison
sullen cypress
#

hmm im trying to get a pikalett with static, is that possible? ive tried fusing a pikachu with static with a sand veil dig and an arena trap dig, both outputs a pikalett with sand veil

flint loom
#

Gyarados is one of the exception. It act as a pure water in fusion

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If the body have it's first abikity then the fusion have the ability of the body, if not then the fusion have the first ability of the head (If I understand correctly)

sullen cypress
#

i think i may have figured out why i cant get a static pikalett, my pikachu might have an ability value of 2 but still have static because i got the pikachu from unfusing instead of str8 catching

hidden bison
#

Pikachu does give static but once you fuse 2 mons the initial ability they get cannot change by unfusing and re-fusing them

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You would need a new pikachu and diglett

sullen cypress
#

all my digletts are new, its only the pikachu that is from an unfuse

hidden bison
#

Or at least the body mon has to be different since its the 1st you pick when fusing

sullen cypress
#

i save before i fuse the pikachu and the diglett so all the digletts are first time fusing

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its more of the pikachu that i have is from an unfuse so i need to catch a new pikachu that hasnt been fused. if i understand what ure saying correctly

hidden bison
#

Hmm then change the pikachu i guess

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How many diglett's do you have

sullen cypress
#

3

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lol

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2 sand veil and 1 arena trap

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well....

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the 2nd one i caught was supposed to be arena trap

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but when i checked in the pc it was a sand veil lol

hidden bison
#

Hmm just save before trying to fuse it with any of the 3

sullen cypress
#

i have all end up with sand veil pikaletts lol

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based on the "formula" on the subreddit i think pikachu might be the problem

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it was most likely a lightning rod pikachu

hidden bison
#

Well its not rly random

sullen cypress
#

which would give an ability value of 2

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which then fused with a pidgey (i caught a pidchu, then unfused it) which gave me a pikachu with static

hidden bison
#

It would have been better if it was actually randomly decided

sullen cypress
#

thus making it a pikachu with ability value of 2 but with static

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pikachu with ability value 2 will always give me a pikalett with sandveil

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cause when i reverse the fusion, Digchu, i get a digchu with static with the sand veil digletts and a digchu with sandveil when i use the arena trap diglett

hidden bison
#

I see

#

You would have to change the pikach then

sullen cypress
#

cant seem to find pure pikachus 😦 only fused ones lol

#

but thank you for responding 😃

hidden bison
#

Fusion repel is a thing

sullen cypress
#

i havent even gotten onto ss anne yet haha

hidden bison
#

Its for finding unfused mons

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Try the pokemart

jaunty orbit
#

Best thing to do is get a Pikachu in Viridian forest before doing the Mt Moon quest and triggering wild fusions

#

That said, a DNA splicer for $500 is cheaper than a $750 fusion repel and you can unfuse one of your wild Pikachu fusions

flint loom
#

make a baby pikachu if you can't find one

sullen cypress
#

for those that know better than me please correct the information above thanks 😃

#

but thats what im following at the moment @granite yarrow

flint loom
#

It sound about right (I didn't perform many experiment to confirm it by some guys did I think)

granite yarrow
#

Okay

#

Well that is annoying.

hidden bison
#

Well it is a post by chippy he is a mod here

#

but there is room for error in anyone

granite yarrow
#

Indeed. Every game has its annoying bits.

sullen cypress
#

ive only just joined the discord today and started playing 3.1 two days ago lol so.... im new too so..... i just use what i can find lol

distant dagger
#

At least ability capsules have been implemented since then

granite yarrow
#

Same. I just started playing 4.0 3 days ago

#

I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

flint loom
#

I enjoyed my 4.0 run more than my 3.1 one.

granite yarrow
#

haven't tried 3.1

flint loom
#

also my 4.0 was random, it might be that

granite yarrow
#

Same.

#

Aww, meowlithe is kinds cute.

fallen ruin
worldly cove
#

rock head

hidden bison
#

ohhh

#

adamant

#

rock head

worldly cove
#

OP

hidden bison
#

OP indeed

#

this is gonna turn out quite good

willow ingot
#

i have a question

#

how u make to a pokemon don't evolve if it evolve at the same level of the another pokemon of the fusion?

hidden bison
#

hmm probably cant do it anymore

#

they used to evolve seperatly

#

but now if you cancel it it wont evolve either half

willow ingot
#

i fused a caterpie with a caterpie xd

#

i don't want to caterpie evolve :'v

#

but caterpie need to evolve

#

xDD

hidden bison
#

unfuse

#

evolve one until buterfree

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and fuse again

#

cant do much else

willow ingot
#

well

hidden bison
#

idk why you would want that

willow ingot
#

caterpie's everywhere :v

serene pond
hidden bison
#

👌

#

might want to resize

serene pond
#

@hidden bison I would love to resize them, but if I do, this happens

#

Its quality looks like sh--- uhh, crap

#

idk if I can swear here

hidden bison
#

yeah you can swear but dont go overboard

#

also what are you using to resize?

#

photoshop?

serene pond
#

Pixlr

hidden bison
#

o

#

never heard of it

#

i use piskel to make sprites and used it to resize yours

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cuz its a spriting only tool and doesnt blur stuff

serene pond
hidden bison
#

i also changed some of the off-color lines if you can tell :p

#

ohh its an online editor

serene pond
#

Something was off color?

hidden bison
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

serene pond
#

Well it was a nice jesture

hidden bison
#

yeah some lines were brown-ish

#

so i made them gray

serene pond
#

huh, neat

#

I cooked up a new fusion, would you like to see?

hidden bison
#

😄 the name

serene pond
#

👉 😉 👉

#

I wish I could make these bigger without making it blurry

#

but pixlr doesn't let that happen

hidden bison
#

you can just download either paint.net or Piskel

#

both are free

#

and can resize without blurring

#

if you check the right options

serene pond
#

How do I download them?

flint loom
#

yep, the blurry is usually your programme guessing what should the pixels look like to make a smooth transition. Some program allow you to shows how to make that guess.

hidden bison
flint loom
#

paint.net is usually installed by default on windows (7 or above I think)

hidden bison
#

no windows paint is installed by default

flint loom
#

Ah, I though it was the same

#

my bad

crimson siren
#

I like mtpaint myself.

hidden bison
#

well i use ordinary paint to make my sprites

serene pond
#

How does Piskel work?

hidden bison
#

but resizing and removing the background cannot be done on that

crimson siren
#

It'll even run on a 200mhz CPU with 16 MB ram.

hidden bison
serene pond
#

Ok, then what?

#

Wait, how do I get the image into the thing?

#

Nvm I got it

#

How does one save it to your computer?

#

@hidden bison ^

hidden bison
#

ohh

#

sec

#

didnt check my discord

#

do you still need help ?

serene pond
#

You good

#

I just need to know how to save the resized image to my computer

hidden bison
#

well after checking those options earlier

#

you dont need to resize the image directly

serene pond
#

I did

hidden bison
#

because

serene pond
#

Wait huh?

hidden bison
#

choose PNG

serene pond
#

Ok

hidden bison
#

and you can directly export it at a larger size

#

as you can see on the bar up top

#

just click the top download

serene pond
#

So after clicking PNG I do what?

hidden bison
#

idk why it says download when it should say Save

serene pond
#

Oh o

#

ok*

#

Sweet! I can finally make my fusions a decent size, thank you

hidden bison
#

np

#

in case you mess up

#

on Import

serene pond
#

Speaking of which, I used my newest fusion as a test so wanna see it?

hidden bison
#

it has a restore function

serene pond
#

oh ok cool

hidden bison
#

it restores the last saved image

#

so if you delete something by accident it can restore it

serene pond
#

ok cool

#

Speaking of which, I used my newest fusion as a test so wanna see it?

hidden bison
#

sure

serene pond
hidden bison
#

weird

#

it still looks a little blurry

#

do you still have the original

serene pond
#

I don't do that Face on the body of another thing

hidden bison
#

what size what it ?

serene pond
#

I find that kinda stupid

#

1000x1000

hidden bison
#

1000?

#

rly ?

serene pond
hidden bison
#

not 100x100 ?

#

its 96x96

serene pond
#

Yea and its super tiny

hidden bison
#

ok ill show you the resize process

#

after checking the boxes

#

on export

#

and clicked the top download

#

and here it is

#

its not blurry

serene pond
#

Huh, neat

#

I didn't notice the top bar tbh 😂

hidden bison
#

ye you dont need to change anything in the resize menu

#

just check the boxes

#

and save at a larger size

serene pond
#

Can do, thanks again

worldly cove
hidden bison
#

i have seen this before

bright finch
#

fire

hidden bison
#

its a cool design

#

also Belgi have not seen you in a while

#

am always here

#

but since am not playing

#

I don't post shit

#

xD

#

😄

#

Lurk mode activated mr_owl

#

I might start playing some shit rom hack

#

I need a stupid crystal one

#

like snakewood or wack

#

for crystal

#

did you ever decide to play wack ?

#

I already did

#

but I don't like it a lot

#

oh you finished it ?

#

nah

#

it gets better later

#

its pretty bad at first

upper tendon
#

holy shit WTF is that @hidden bison

#

that is scarily awesome

hidden bison
#

Mawile/Meganium

rugged bison
#

So i have this naughty natured Hitmochan with iron fist that i am trying to fuse with a Gengar and even though Hitmochan is the higher lvl body his iron fist gets replaced with levitate. i even tried using gengar as the body to experiment and the same thing. It confuses me lol

tepid sable
#

I have experienced the same thing, so I bet there is some value for each pokemon that determines the ability a fusion will get.
At Crimson City you can get an ability capsule to switch the fusion's ability, so... yeah.

rugged bison
#

tis too bad I'm just getting to the saffron gym now. i liked ghost/fight with iron fist. I was going for a move set of confuse ray/sucler punch ( or ice punch) / shadow punch/ sky uppercut ( or drain puich)

sullen cypress
#

The original ability value of the head determines the fusions ability.

#

They all have values of either 1 or 2.

#

A value of 1 will give the fusion the heads ability and a value of 2 will give u the bodies.

#

Your gengar has levitate(1) instead of levitate(2), gengar line only have 1 ability but it's coded as levitate (1) and levitate (2) u don't see the numbers tho.

#

However a quick fix for it would be fusing the gengar with anything then unfusing and refusing it to the hitmonchan.

#

Anything that has been unfused has an ability value of 2 no matter what the ability name is

#

Or what it originally was.

rose dune
#

Bad news is that Keen eye is the ability hitmonchan will pass on with fusions

sullen cypress
#

Oh and yea.... Fusions can only have the first ability of any Pokémon lol....

hidden bison
#

Ye hitmonchan will not give iron fist

#

You got the better ability with levitate

worn bison
#

my opinion is why not?

fierce zenith
#

anything(fusion or non) to make good use of shadow punch?

hidden bison
#

hmm Gengar/Strong body mon

#

i guess

fierce zenith
#

machamp?

hidden bison
#

ye

#

or kingler

#

Dragonite should work too

#

it will be more of a mixed attacker tho

#

and you will have access to shadow ball

#

so it makes shadow punch kind of useless

fierce zenith
#

yeah i just like the idea of it, and it being auto hit

flint loom
#

most ghost and psy pokemon (except maybe slowbro) have bad defense though. so it would be better than shadow ball. But again, fusion might not have the defense issue >.>

fierce zenith
#

gengar + kingler
hp 58
atk 108
def 97
sp atk 103
sp def 67
speed 87

#

gengar + dragonite
70
111
83
120
83
90

#

gengar + machamp
70
108
73
108
78
73

flint loom
#

dragonite seem to be the better option stats wise

sullen cypress
#

getting access to a dragonite would be the next hurdle

flint loom
#

indeed, it's a late game pokemon (lvl 55)

fierce zenith
#

otherwise i would probably go machamp, cause typing vs ghost water

sullen cypress
#

Hmm AlaFairy or AlaKiss

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AlaAble*

sullen cypress
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togekiss body gives flying or fairy ?

bright finch
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flying

sullen cypress
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hmm so if i want Fairy Psychic id need a TogeKazam

harsh leaf
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But you don't want that. Alakazam is a head mon

sullen cypress
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but then stats wise it wont be that great...

hidden bison
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well there are other fairy options

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and most of them are better off being heads

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which is kind of sad

sullen cypress
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AlaFable would be my best bet

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or AlaFairy with eviolite

serene pond
hidden bison
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interesting

serene pond
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Tips Hat

hidden bison
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you resized it properly too

serene pond
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As you do

hidden bison
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why that name tho 😄

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Relipedo

serene pond
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Because it fits, does it not?

hidden bison
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Sharcanth sounds better

serene pond
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Eh, I suppose

worldly cove
hidden bison
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there is a sprite for that

worldly cove
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uh I don't think so

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that is the second evolution

hidden bison
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oh its a houndour still

worldly cove
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yep

hidden bison
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😄

worldly cove
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lol

hidden bison
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that Relipedo reminded me of this

worldly cove
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he si a pedo

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Abra + Sharpedo = Apedo

tepid sable
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no, abpedo

flint loom
fierce zenith
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Yup

fierce zenith
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Dragonnite feraligator looks good too

fierce zenith
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I think imma make a raimoth, call it venoshock, and teach it venoshock

fierce zenith
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any ideas for an umbreon fusion?

tepid sable
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A ghost or poison-type.

sullen cypress
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GenReon

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Gengar Umbreon

fierce zenith
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sounds good only weak to fairy, which seems like a not much for attacking type

sullen cypress
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Or WeeReon for poison dark with levitate to - ground weakness

fierce zenith
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also rare,

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i like my one weakness, and im already planning on a poison and i wanted a gengar and umbreon in my part anyway

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i need something yet that will wreck ground though

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cause slowly building a team
Dragon/Water
Steel/Grass
Electric/Poison
Ghost/Dark

tepid sable
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Water and Grass are good for wrecking Ground, which you have both.

fierce zenith
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flying is immune though

sullen cypress
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But ground types usually come with rock moves as well

fierce zenith
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hmm

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flying fighting?