dex-entries-discussion

[jaunty crest]

We're moving from the old pif-project thread to this new channel!!

▶️ ➡️ SUBMIT ENTRIES HERE ⬅️ ◀️

ALL POKÉDEX ENTRIES MUST FOLLOW THESE GUIDELINES:

• Should be 2 sentences or so.
• Between 100 and 250 characters long.
• No grammatical/syntactical errors.
• Nothing that breaks the PIF Server rules.
• Should make sense in-universe. No direct references to other media, etc.

You can submit entries for ANY sprite, even if they were made by somebody else.
You may only submit entries for fusions that are already in the game and full sprite pack that comes out on the 1st of each month. Use the Fusion Dex to see what sprites are in the game! Do NOT rely on the file names the sprite has in the gallery!

If you want to insert the name of the fusion, type POKENAME. It will be automatically replaced in-game. E.g.: A wild POKENAME is a dangerous Pokémon.

You can see all the entries that have been approved HERE.

Submission form explanations

🗃️ You may notice that certain boxes in the sheets are color-coded. The sheet is set up to automatically flag certain mistakes. Being flagged is not an automatic rejection. It just means that an Unown will likely have to fix the errors before it can be accepted.
If your entries tend to be flagged, try to pay attention to the kinds of errors you tend to make. Having to correct entries slows the approval process, so it's better if you can avoid those problems.

Here's a key for understanding the colors:
📕 Pale red: There's a formatting issue. This could be a line break, a space before the first word, or a space after the last period.
📕 Red: The entry is under 100 characters. It's too short and needs a bit more content. The entry may be denied. If you want to add to your entry to remove the red color, contact an Unown.
📙 Pale yellow: The entry has a gendered pronoun like his or such. Make sure you refer to Pokémon as it or they.
📙 Yellow: The word Pokémon in the entry does not start with a capital P, or it has been spelled without the accented é. If you need to type an é, you can copy-and-paste it in, use a spellcheck program to fix it for you, or use alt code 0233 or 130.

This information can also be found in the INFO tab of the pinned sheets. The tabs are located at the bottom of the screen.

Writing tips!

• [The use of "and" and "&"](#1201260356182483134 message)
• [The "é" character](#1201260356182483134 message)

[jagged ledge]

Test

👍

[craggy beacon]

[narrow cosmos]

Eyy, there we go

[timid sky]

[steady badger]

Beautiful

[boreal prairie]

FYI this section doesn't appear to the in the channel selector (and can its name be changed to have a capital E in 'entries' for my sanities sake lol)

[narrow cosmos]

Now we can officially be a group of writing-based dorks, our club is fully visible.

[jagged ledge]

I'm on mobile and I tried sending a message as the thread was locked so now I have this glitched text wall

[timid sky]

https://tenor.com/view/pixel-trombone-playing-musical-instrument-prank-joke-gif-15407543308447681253

[narrow cosmos]

@timid sky I didn't think too much about it, but I imagine that it'd thrash a few times after the mushroom cap forms, shielded from outside forces while what's in the cocoon feels itself being taken over.

[noble schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/tusareve-monkey-crazy-gif-26485098

[steady elm]

Time to chat

Time to chat 😉

[jagged ledge]

Btw just a heads up, this is currently listed as a suggested channel and not in the pokedex category.

[steady elm]

Once more Thank you Frogman

[noble schooner]

Alright, how's this for Sylveon/Braixen?

"After channeling its innate psychic ability from mind to heart. POKENAME simply wishes to put a smile on others with its friendly demeanor and sunny disposition. It can sense the emotion of any living being by feeling the body heat of individuals."

[narrow cosmos]

Very cute!

[noble schooner]

THANK YE FROGMAN!

[safe reef]

I have a question, I made a concept art on a fusion, and if someone has sprited the concept and posted on to the spritework, am I allowed to make the dex entrie for it?

[noble schooner]

I also love how in game its dex number is 242322

[timid sky]

You don’t have to have sprited the fusion in order to make the dex entry

[hexed fog]

@regal cedar I am going through all of my previous entries with comments and just writing new ones. I've done so many I literally have no idea what I was going for on some of these lol

[timid sky]

You should have a comma where you have the first period

[noble schooner]

good catch... completely slipped my mind 😅

[noble schooner]

thank ye

[narrow cosmos]

Pollution in areas where Feebas live has resulted in this deformed, unfortunate Pokémon. POKENAME lashes out at any who view its misshapen appearance, forever enraged at becoming more hideous.

[noble schooner]

Mubas or Feek?

[narrow cosmos]

Mubas.

[noble schooner]

fkn love it XD

[narrow cosmos]

Angy ugly feesh

[noble schooner]

angy AND ungly?

[jagged ledge]

My mobile data is awful right now. I can read the chat but my posts lag like crazy

Test

[noble schooner]

seems ok?

[timid sky]

Angly

[jagged ledge]

Sorry my mobile data is trash lol

I could read the chat but couldn't post for 10 minutes

#1201260356182483134 message

@boreal prairie No worries, but if I may offer a suggestion, perhaps changing the enamel projectiles to enamel cannons could help? Something like "Their cannons are made from the same enamel as their teeth to help them endure blasting torrents of water."

[limber parrot]

hi chat

[jagged ledge]

Hello!

[noble schooner]

Zoroark/Luxray

"The ultimate nocturnal hunter, causing blackouts to frighten its prey. POKENAME’s X-ray vision paired with illusion manipulation makes this Pokemon one would not want to be on its bad side. Its eyes can not be hindered or blinded."

[noble schooner]

Professor Oak, am Angly, fix.

[narrow cosmos]

Its massive appetite is due in part to the calories needed to maintain its strict training regiment. Eating and training are so intertwined it will often be seen with a full mouth even while exercising.

[noble schooner]

get that boi a snickers XD

[jagged ledge]

But he is him when he's hungry

[narrow cosmos]

I like it! I feel like the second sentence is a little awkwardly phrased, maybe something like "POKENAME's X-ray vision and illumination manipulation make it a Pokemon one would not wish to anger." Just my two cents.

[narrow cosmos]

King size or nothing. XD

[noble schooner]

fair point, thank ye

[deep stag]

Imagine not having access to the é character with just base keyboard (couldn't be me)

[narrow cosmos]

Also that should be "illusion manipulation," I don't know why I typed "illumination."

[noble schooner]

i'm also getting some "mum says it's my turn on the tredmil" vibes XD

[boreal prairie]

What's the consensus on if entries should be plural or singular?

Pikachu live in forests vs. Pikachu lives in forests

[hexed fog]

@ebon warren can you just decline these? I'll rewrite

[noble schooner]

that just notes you made or is that something you can view after submitting an entry?

[hexed fog]

@ebon warren these too?

[hexed fog]

Nah you dont need to write your entries here if you understand it for the most part. If an Unown has a question or something theyll usually ping you or write it on the sheet. I do sooooo many that I can never remember what my original idea was LOL

so it's probably easier just to rewrite

[jagged ledge]

Prior I believe because we're talking about a species

[noble schooner]

if i could tweak the entries i submited already i would. just some little errors or structure changes id do

[hexed fog]

oh dude same

but with sheets it would require people to have access... that could be messy af

[jagged ledge]

You're allowed to resubmit, just let the Unowns know.

[hexed fog]

and that

nobody hates you if you dup or have to change it later

[jagged ledge]

POKENAME use their long, blade-like arms to dig into soil so they can plant rows of seeds. The only time they will wield their blades for combat is if someone or something threatens their gardens.

[noble schooner]

how would i do that? i literally started this whole thing today so im incredibly green 😅

[narrow cosmos]

POKENAME are so indolent as to be almost immobile for 90 percent of their life. They lay around in clearings or near civilization, opening their mouth at passersby in the hopes of food being shared with it.

(One more for now. XD)

[jagged ledge]

Same thing you did the first time just with the fixed entry. 👍

[jagged ledge]

Lol poor things

[noble schooner]

i don't follow, sorry... what are you refering to? @jagged ledge

[candid gust]

Despite their reputation for being extremely aggressive, POKENAME prefers to spend its time eating berries and fruits. POKENAME tend to roam in groups of 5-10, and are very protective of their herd.

[timid sky]

POKENAME is not very good at flying yet, so it uses its bouncy tail to get off the ground. It tends to freeze up around malicious people and Pokémon.

[hexed fog]

smart, considering we get that at the start of the rocket quest

[timid sky]

That was the point of the second sentence

[narrow cosmos]

Imagine holding the tail and it's just clinging adorably to it above your hand

[short basalt]

POKENAME uses bioluminescence grains of sand stored in the upper wings to lure unsuspecting prey from the sea to the nearest beachside. It tends to eat light and leave the remains for anyone willing to claim them.

[noble schooner]

i'll just triple check my entries before i submit it i suppose. heck the chances of it being used are probably low. i'm just doing what i can to contribute no matter how small to this awesome game. plus its fun

[jagged ledge]

You're allowed to submit more than one entry for each sprite to the form. If there's an entry you wrote that you want to replace or update, you can submit another one using the same information/file name. But also letting one of the Unowns know can help them because they'll know to skip the first one.

For example #1201260356182483134 message

[scenic badge]

Question how many fusions have dex entries rn

[jagged ledge]

The Unowns have access to the form so they can make adjustments or review things, all we have to do is communicate them and fill in entries to replace errors.

[jagged ledge]

Approximately 10,000

[scenic badge]

That’s a lot more then I expected

[noble schooner]

and who are the unowns? sorry if dumb question...

[scenic badge]

They are unknowns

[noble schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/phuong2-gif-8619471846694107429

[jagged ledge]

@regal cedar @ebon warren are definitely two of them. I'm not sure of all of them but those are the two most active.

[timid sky]

You forgot realthree

[timid sky]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pikachu-unown-pokemon-presents-gif-1621210531475161594

[noble schooner]

i'll keep them in mind, thanks and i apoligise for my stupidness 😅

[regal cedar]

👋

[noble schooner]

honestly with the amount of power they have i would NOT want to get swarmed by Unown less i be warped into some twisted space spehgetti

[jagged ledge]

No such thing as stupid questions!

[jagged ledge]

Noted

[ashen anvil]

Are dex entries per sprite or per fusion? Like if a pokemon has like 2 or 3 alts do they get their own entry?

[scenic badge]

Per sprite

[timid sky]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-john-cena-are-you-sure-gif-5783187

[ashen anvil]

oh wow, so 1 fusion could have a ton of different entries if people make a lot of alts for it

[scenic badge]

Yep

[verbal needle]

Less fun when you're making dex entries for your own sprites and alts and need to think of interesting ways to make them different lol

[jagged ledge]

POKENAME gather leaves from the forest to fashion into elaborate gowns. They pride themselves on their performances, singing in grassy fields at sunrise to welcome the new day.

There will be submissions for all 151 Bulbasaur head Kanto fusions by the end of the year! You can't stop me!

[narrow cosmos]

Yep, Charizard/Charizard has like five alts that each have their own entries and I think one of them even has two entries for the same sprite, so when you look up the sprite it randomly picks one to show you.

I was screenshot cataloging Pokedex entries and I'm at somewhere above 2000 collected so far

The multiple-on-one-sprite thing messes me up a bit, not gonna lie.

[jagged ledge]

Imagine if there was an Entries tab on the Pokedex like the Sprites tab.

[amber summit]

Still waiting on most of my old entries to be approved. Is that going to pick up again or do I need to resubmit?

[regal cedar]

Seems like it's been ~2 months, we'll get to them,.

[iron mango]

Dw I have older ones waiting you just gotta be patient!

[noble schooner]

i love this fusion. Froslass/Lurantis

"Now living a life of solitude in snow covered grasslands, POKENAME seeks to revitalize gardens & meadows left barren by neglect or the course of time. It can camouflage amidst frost covered foliage & will retaliate if their flowers are threatened."

[jagged ledge]

POKENAME rapidly spin their arms to generate electricity to power their bulbs. Once they are fully charged, POKENAME's bulbs glow brightly and are capable of releasing electrified spores.

[jagged ledge]

My one piece of advice would be maybe remove the "now" at the beginning and write out "and" instead?

[noble schooner]

i did & because of the character limit...

wouldn't fit if i wrote it out...

[jagged ledge]

Well removing "Now" at the beginning would fix that

[noble schooner]

and the "now" made sense to me since this is after the two individuals became fused. though i guess fusions CAN be found in the wild so...

[chrome forum]

POKENAME runs off an energy source of unknown origin. It uses it's large tail as a conduit to steal power from small electronics, then stashes the broken items in tree branches high off the ground.

[noble schooner]

that it does... DAMMIT

[jagged ledge]

Yeah, I like to imagine most of my entries as being part of an ecosystem doing their thing.

[noble schooner]

that's fair

is something like changing the &'s enough to bother the unowns to delete those entries so i can resend them or is that something that can easily be fixed in post if they decide to use it?

[jagged ledge]

Oh entries aren't usually fully deleted, you can resubmit them as often as you need to. They'll just use the latest instance on the sheet.

[floral seal]

super small typo — its large tail, not it’s! Contentwise i love 😌

[jagged ledge]

Agreed

[noble schooner]

ahh i see

[floral seal]

and yippee for this channel!! I’m so excited do some entries and discussions

[jagged ledge]

Agreed!

[chrome forum]

Oh, thank you, I didn't catch that!! Glad you like it!

[past cypress]

Yep I've started writing them right before the drama so I'm primed to help out

[noble schooner]

same here, though i decided to help after hearing about the drama

[past cypress]

Yeah literally the day before the announcement for me so it was...rough

I saw a huge backlog of approvals too

[timid sky]

I’ve been doing this since custom dex entries became a thing

[past cypress]

Gonna check later when I have my computer if they were fixed yet

But I'm willing to help continue writing

[noble schooner]

i just hope i can come up with ones that people find interesting, even if they don't get used

[past cypress]

Do we have a list of priority pokemon that need dex entries tho

[sacred patio]

Can someone give me a list of random fusions with no entry yet? Just a few, I’ll do entry’s for them

[ivory pollen]

Hey @regal cedar i saw you tag me in the other dex entries about one of the oricorios that basically what "original Pokename" means Pokename gets changed to the name of the fusión in this case being 2 oricorios the name is oricorio and because it looks like a normal type oricorio i wrote that it looks like the original oricorio

[regal cedar]

👍

[regal cedar]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JOqitOP72D-s_es1-F7OzVPUkKJ3tytjfvhptx1KAK8/edit?gid=114427759#gid=114427759

if it doesn't open you up to the right page, go to "pokemon catchable in the wild"

It's not EVERY fusion that has a sprite without an entry, but it's a good starting point

[noble schooner]

jesus that's a lotXD

[sacred patio]

Pokemon catch in wild are all ones that need entry?

[jagged ledge]

I believe the biggest priority is wild Pokemon fusions. Like if you stumbled upon a Pidgey/Rattata on Route 1.

I personally also think Starter Fusions should be a priority so you can fuse your starter with whatever you want

[past cypress]

Can do, currently in the process of getting my computer since I'm still away for the holidays but I can crank some out soon

[safe reef]

@regal cedar I have a question, I made a concept art on a fusion, and if someone has sprited the concept and posted on to the spritework, is it possible for me to make the dex entrie I created for it prioritized?

[past cypress]

What's the process for getting them approved too? It seems there's a bottleneck in the process of approving them since it looks like the majority of entries on the spreadsheet were marked as unreviewed? Is that accurate?

[regal cedar]

Currently, our rule is that the spriter gets priority, but that seems like a special case. I can ask the others about it, and, if you want, I can also make a note of your concept art participation, too, if you make note of it here.

[safe reef]

How can I?

[sacred patio]

So I’m gunna start on the middle of the list so I don’t accidentally do an entry that someone else is also doing

[jagged ledge]

Ngl I'm kinda considering doing some concept art myself.

[sacred patio]

Because I feel that will be issue when people start from the top of the list

[jagged ledge]

Meanwhile I'm doing the exact opposite and starting from the top of the dex

[fair thicket]

Currently at work rn, but I’ve been musing - do you think some folks might appreciate design notes from spriters? Like the inspiration for the design, etc. i know I’ve been writing entries only for my own sprites to not step on others’ toes + those had design elements that weren’t overtly obvious, and turning vague thoughts into coherent dex entries is a valuable skill
(Please ping, as it might get lost since I have four more hours at work)

[sacred patio]

That would be complicated

[regal cedar]

I mean, sure, if you want, but yeah, it's likely to get swallowed up in here

[sacred patio]

We would new system in place to smooth it out

Or the artist would just get pinged a ton

[regal cedar]

Just when you submit, maybe put something in here about how you did the concept art and @ an unown?

[jagged ledge]

I think the potential issue with that is that it might delay some of the writing process or the Spriter could just make their own entry. They already have priority and more than one entry can be submitted for a sprite if there's any missing aspects.

[sacred patio]

How did you get custom dex entry role?

[jagged ledge]

They're an Unown. They oversee the approval and sorting of entries

[sacred patio]

Ohhhh

Ok

That was unknown to me

[jagged ledge]

[noble schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-yoda-funny-game-grumps-gif-9269703

[reef sun]

Wild mons, starter cross fusions, starter and early route mons

[jagged ledge]

POKENAME release highly flammable spores from their bulbs. These spores billow out like smoke and surround their foes to wear them down before setting them aflame.

[hearty kite]

I see this spot got a channel for itself, nice.

Although I would like to refer to a question I asked earlier.

[regal cedar]

Yes?

[regal cedar]

Yes, of course!

Which entry is it? The number it currently is.

[sacred patio]

Can I ping spriters to clarify stuff about the sprite before I make an entry?

[hearty kite]

Do you mean the number it is on the sheet or the dex number?

[regal cedar]

Either or!

[regal cedar]

Or just post it in here for feedback, but the spriter is OK too! Just don't ping too rapidly, be courteous.

[hearty kite]

Oh sheesh, gimme 3 minutes

[sacred patio]

@teal moss for your igglybuff Bulbasuar fusion sprite, is the object on its back a bulb? Or a leaf? Just want to clarify for an entry

[jagged ledge]

I think it's a Moon Stone?

[sacred patio]

Oh wait, it does kinda look like a moonstone

Doesn’t jiggs evolve from moonstone?

[noble schooner]

makes sense, it evolves using a moonstone

[jagged ledge]

Yup

[sacred patio]

Ok cool

[noble schooner]

clever

[sacred patio]

Who is blaquaza anyway

[verbal needle]

A mod

[jagged ledge]

The person that made the sprite I assume.

[sacred patio]

Oh

[past cypress]

Yeah the sprite artist

[sacred patio]

I just pinged a mod

[verbal needle]

I'm sure Blaq will understand lol

[hearty kite]

Okay the thing is, I know neither. Can’t filter my name on the spritesheet because that’s exclusive to the browser website.

Could you filter on my name? You should be able to nitpick the entry from there

[regal cedar]

Yes, I'll do that.

[hearty kite]

”the_smirker”

[sinful shuttle]

a note about 'é'. You can type it with "AltGr + e" which is easier to remember than the number codes (if you have the right alt that is)

[regal cedar]

Yup.

[jagged ledge]

I just copy+paste

[regal cedar]

Ah, hmm, I don't see that entry, Abbadomon. What sprite did you want to change it to anyways?

[hearty kite]

Well what was previously the main sprite got turned into the alt.

#122.315a

Thats where the entry should be

[sacred patio]

POKENAME is a popular companion among children due to its playful nature. Scientists believe the peculiar protrusion on its back may be the key to its growth.

Got it

This is considered early game mon right?

[hearty kite]

Also my name isn’t ”abbadomon”, I go by ”the_smirker” since I change usernames from time to time

I aim to stick with Abbadomon but just in case all the entries I write are with ”the_smirker”

It could also be ”Planatical” since that’s an old user. Perhaps I did it with that alias

[sacred patio]

Making entries is fun

[jagged ledge]

It is!

[hearty kite]

Indeed

[jagged ledge]

I like it, but it's a little simple and vague. Maybe including something about how it's playful and bouncy or rework the second part to include something about it being a moon stone or preferring moonlight instead of sunlight

[sacred patio]

Ok thank you

[jagged ledge]

Sorry if that's a little nitpicky, it's just that there are 250,000+ Pokemon in the game so I like trying to make each one as individualized as possible

[sacred patio]

Yes, I understand

Each mon needs to feel special in order to better immerse players in the game

Make them feel more attached to their mons

[jagged ledge]

Yeah

[sacred patio]

Have more fun and meaningful playthroughs

[regal cedar]

Hmm, I see someone named "Platanical" who did an entry like that, but not that.

[jagged ledge]

POKENAME wrap leaves around their horns so that they won't tear through trees as they tend to seeds. When a POKENAME's horns are unwrapped, they are able to slice trees in half in the blink of an eye.

[ebon warren]

Also keep in mind that each unique sprite also has its own custom Dex entry. So it’s way more than even this number. And making them distinct is absolutely a good goal

[hearty kite]

If someone named ”Planatical” wrote a dex entry on that sprite, that’s me

[jagged ledge]

I said "+" /lhj

[hearty kite]

Is it #122.315.png? that’s what it was noted as in spreadsheets because at that time what is now an alt was still a main

[regal cedar]

Alright, gave it a change, I see it, the Kefka reference

[ebon warren]

Well yes, but that little + could also just include future Pokémon added or even just mathematical error or variance.
I just wanted to make sure that the scope was more clear

[jagged ledge]

You got me there

[hearty kite]

Just to be sure, can you post what entry it was?

Just so I can confirm it since im skeptical

[regal cedar]

"This deity specializes in comedy and entertainment. It occasionally descends in secret to comedians to evaluate their jokes and offer useful advice."

[hearty kite]

Alright that’s it

Also wow what a good entry, who wrote that

[hearty kite]

Yeah, the entry is on the left sprite right now

[ebon warren]

https://tenor.com/view/drink-water-thirsty-quench-gif-17237972

[hearty kite]

We need to move it onto the right

[sacred patio]

Glorious

[hearty kite]

Im sure it’s some sort of jojo ref

[regal cedar]

it's final fantasy

[sacred patio]

Which final fantasy

[hearty kite]

hmm, okay

[regal cedar]

6

[sacred patio]

One of the most underrated imo

Always gets overshadowed by 7

[jagged ledge]

POKENAME are very popular on farms, where they use their vine-like tails to help pull plows. The leaves around their necks help them gather energy even while they work in the fields.

[brazen flicker]

Ah so this is the new channel?

[ebon warren]

You could probably just make it tail vines and it would still work, and I would change gather energy to produce energy or better yet, gather sunlight for energy since the leaves aren’t really actually getting the energy together, so gather doesn’t make as much sense.

[jagged ledge]

Well uh I'll resubmit then

[ebon warren]

Oh you already submitted? You just posted here my bad

You can leave it, no worries

[jagged ledge]

I've been on a little bit of a speedrun but SK mentioned liking to share things here first and I thought it would be fun so I've been going through mine here too lol

I don't mind submitting a fixed version

Fixed version submitted. 👍

POKENAME are very popular on farms, where they use their vine tails to help pull plows. The leaves around their necks help them gather sunlight for energy even while they work in the fields.

[stuck shoal]

@regal cedar That dex entry was probably for porygon-z/pikachu but imo it's a rough entry and that sprite was purged (i think, there were three but i removed two of my alts) so it;s not really a dex entry anymotr

[median seal]

Boy

Damn

[stuck shoal]

sorry the thread was locked before i could respond so i have to @ here

[tribal relic]

Wow, a great change from all the drama. Here's hoping Dex Entries become more popular from here on out. I know I'll be writing more.

[jagged ledge]

Yeah, it's genuinely heartwarming to see how much things have improved just in one afternoon

[brazen flicker]

Now we just need the same reward roles like spriters have cough cough

[jagged ledge]

Unlike most Magikarp, POKENAME intentionally leap onto land in order to absorb sunlight through their leafy fins. However they do still struggle to navigate back into the water.

[ebon warren]

Pretty sure there’s a limit to the number of roles in Discord, but we shall see

[rain tiger]

How does this one sound? Koffreep 109.179: Clothes made from Koffreep’s wool will always have a foul odor even when it is washed 100 times. However, the wool is still considered highly valuable to many rich folk due to this rare odor.

[fair thicket]

Yeah, I meant more as suggestions. I have a google doc at home where I wrote up notes on my sprites as an example of what I myself might find helpful.
I was thinking these spriter notes could give ideas to someone who, well, is trying to find more ways to say “gaping maw”, to use an example I saw here

[sacred patio]

Yea, I’ve submitted multiple of the same fusion for fixed versions as well

[jagged ledge]

A Spriter Notes suggestion format could be interesting! For Spriters that don't mind modifications to entries or don't want to write full entries themselves, they could just leave notes of their design process or something.

[brazen flicker]

I dont think the first sentence "Unlike most Magikarp" makes sense because it implies what you're referencing is a magikarp, and this pokemon is instead a seperate entity. Maybe something like "Unlike most fish, ..."

However has a comma because you're comparing (I cant explain why) so its "However, they do still..." If youre implying because its a fish it cant flop back in, maybe explain? At first glance it feels sorta cut off, if that makes sense

[fair thicket]

Oh man I have like four different elements of my wobvern and no idea how to throw them together.
And then there’s wobpuff, which is just “they’re both mono-color blobs and I made the tail look kinda like a speaker ig”

[sacred patio]

Finely some appreciation for writers and not just artists

[brazen flicker]

I can't explain exactly why, but something about the first sentence feels a little choppy. Maybe a comma after odor? "When it is washed" just doesnt tickle my brain right, maybe even "when washed 100 times" because you've already established you're talking about the wool item.

Also, why in the world do rich people want a thing with such a foul odor??? If you're trying to make a comparison with the wool garments maybe choose a diff subject, doesnt make sense lol

Looks awesome tho!

[sacred patio]

This feedback is next level, that’s awesome!

[jagged ledge]

Well it's a fusion made from a Magikarp displaying a Magikarp's traits and other approved entries reference component Pokemon so I think this should be ok?

As for that comma, yeah my bad lol. And I kept the second sentence a little short because I thought the visual of a Magikarp splashing around uselessly on land would get the point across and I was trying to stay under character limit.

[brazen flicker]

I sorta get why, for awhile dex entries were sorta buried under a thread, Im glad there's an official channel! Writing is def a hard craft tho, esp with few unowns who have to manage everything. Plus, they give really detailed feedback and dedicate a lot of their time and energy!

[sacred patio]

Most fusions are considered different species I believe

[jagged ledge]

Yes and no

[brazen flicker]

Ah, I see where you're coming from. I don't know the exact rules with that sorta thing, so at your own discretion I suppose? I was bein nitpicky, if its character limit thats difficult to work around at times

Look at the faq on the sheet it shouldve been asked before

[noble schooner]

got one more before i go take a break for now. Altaria/Gardevoir
"The skies are its home, and clouds are its comfort. They say that on a clear, cloudless day, gentle humming of songs can be heard far and wide from POKENAME. The light it naturally shines is capable of healing minor wounds."

[sacred patio]

Exactly, the improv and ability to notice small details on sprites and write detailed descriptions within strenuous limits is very tasking

[rain tiger]

It's kind of referencing stinky cheese that rich people like.

[sacred patio]

Like Schrödingers cat, it’s both the same species and different species at the same time, but also neither

[brazen flicker]

Its honestly so much fun and low barrier of entry, esp seeing all the cool art there is

[sacred patio]

Perhaps use “emits” instead of shines

[jagged ledge]

I was literally looking for a different analogy than squares and rectangles, thank you lol

[sacred patio]

Exactly!

[brazen flicker]

OHHHHHHHHHhhhhh THAT makes more sense! Maybe clarify with the odor part tho, "foul odor" makes me think like, sewers. Maybe something like "Their fragrant but bitter odor"*? Could even say direct comparison to cheese

[noble schooner]

good idea thanks

[sacred patio]

Perhaps use something like this: “the wool is considered a delicacy however among the upper class due to its exotic texture”

[jagged ledge]

Honestly if you have any questions about what's allowed, I would say maybe the best course of action is to check the approved entries or ask the Unowns. Most things kinda tend to work more case by case than the FAQ might sound.

Like obviously use the FAQ as a guidelines, they're there for a reason

[sacred patio]

Because although stinky cheese smells, it is often considered to have good flavor that makes up for the smell

[jagged ledge]

But sometimes there are semantics.

[rain tiger]

But you don't eat wool, right?

[jagged ledge]

Maybe it's because of how soft and relaxing it is?

[sacred patio]

Exactly, so flavor wouldn’t work, so perhaps texture would be a better substitute

[noble schooner]

alright i'm off for now, catch you lot next time and i hope to here more feedback in the future

[jagged ledge]

By all means share the notes

[sacred patio]

Substitute… lol, no pun intended

[jagged ledge]

Seeya! Happy to have you! Have a good day!

[brazen flicker]

Ooooo v nice sprite. Gonna be real, cut the first sentence, its too personified for the encyclopedia-style dex entries.

"The light it naturally shines" feels a bit bulky, if its shining light I, the reader, assume its natural, esp from the sprite. You could cut naturally or "The light it creates..." also gets the point across

[sacred patio]

I suggested something like that for the light, I suggested using emits, because i feel it is more natural

[brazen flicker]

Emits also implies its creating it, so that works too!

[rain tiger]

Ok how does this sound? Koffreep 109.179: Clothes made from Koffreep’s wool will always have an aged cheese odor, even when washed 100 times. However, the wool is still considered highly valuable to many rich folk due to smelling like exotic cheese.

[noble schooner]

fair point. just wanted to give it more of a graceful opener because of how good it looks, and it fits well with the design

[brazen flicker]

Sry on mobile and type slow/small screen

[sacred patio]

I wonder if someday the dex entries will have YouTube shorts listing off cool entries, not just the sprites

[jagged ledge]

Just for the record, I had enough characters to add the word "efficiently". "However, they still struggle to navigate back into the water efficiently." 👍

[jagged ledge]

Omg that would be cool

[brazen flicker]

Oo thats a great word didnt think of that!

[jagged ledge]

Thank you!

[noble schooner]

the healing thing came from the fact that the one i have has "Natural Cure" as it ability. thought it fit. ok actually going now 😅

[final wagon]

Make sure to replace Koffreep's with POKENAME's

[zealous shell]

i feel like if you changed an aged cheese odor to a distinctive odor it might be better?

[sacred patio]

Much better

[rain tiger]

I got this all on a google doc so it is easy for me to change.

[sacred patio]

Good idea, I haven’t thought of that

[jagged ledge]

I decided to reference Chinese Dragons with this entry

POKENAME enjoy leading parades of Pokémon through the forest to celebrate springtime. POKENAME travel on land by springing off of blades of grass, leaving sprouts in their path.

[rain tiger]

Now how does this sound? Koffreep 109.179: Clothes made from POKENAME’s wool will always have a distinctive odor, even when washed 100 times. However, the wool is still considered highly valuable to many rich folk due to smelling like exotic cheese.

[sacred patio]

Having both sentences starting with POKENAME is kind of repetitive, but other than that it looks good

[jagged ledge]

Sometimes I just can't think of another way to start a second sentence. I've written over 75 Bulbasaur entries.

[zealous shell]

NGL this dex entry makes me want to play with one

[rain tiger]

Does it look like it's good to go?

[jagged ledge]

I prefer a second POKENAME to using "It" tbh. "It" just sounds kinda simple unless carrying on the same thought from the first sentence. This is a unique entry out of nearly 300,000. I think using POKENAME a couple times to specify shouldn't be too much of an issue... most of the time.

[ebon warren]

I don’t often recommend having POKENAME in the same entry twice, as it can feel repetitive in most cases. I encourage using some other placeholder like this Pokémon or this creature or some other variation of that style of phrasing

[jagged ledge]

Alright, makes sense. Thanks for the note.

How does this sound?

POKENAME enjoy leading parades of Pokémon through the forest to celebrate springtime. They travel across the land by gathering leaves beneath their feet, planting sprouts as they pass and watering them as they return to their homes in lakes.

[rain tiger]

Also, is this the right way to put the name in?

[brazen flicker]

Wait a min, maybe my discord is gltiching, but @ebon warren where is your unown icon and role color??

[ebon warren]

You could even be a little more creative and say A free spirit or The energetic creature or something along those lines, adding a descriptor in both the adjective and the noun

[jagged ledge]

Ooh smart

[brazen flicker]

Itll give an error if wrong, looks good!

[ebon warren]

Yes, it will show an error if it isn’t correct. However, make sure you include any letter in there (if there is one)

[ebon warren]

I have the little icon, but the helper role doesn’t have a color assigned

[brazen flicker]

How do they water the sprouts they plant,?

[brazen flicker]

Oh now the icon shows-
Fr-???? I couldve sworn unowns were orangish yellow, been a bit tho. That's lame ://

[craggy beacon]

i think porygons are hte first to get helper colors

[ebon warren]

No, I think only the tech support ones have a color? I’m actually not sure on the colors, I just know Unowns don’t have it.

[craggy beacon]

we got turned green upon request

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[ebon warren]

https://tenor.com/view/you're-green-i-am-glinda-elphaba-wicked-you-have-a-green-complexion-gif-14500722686751669825

[fair thicket]

Demand one

[jagged ledge]

Well it's a gyarados in a lake, but it's also meant to resemble Chinese Dragons, that fly by gathering clouds to travel through the sky. So it could bring rain as it flies or create a large splash in the lake. Or just shoot water cuz it's a gyarados... either way... character limit.

[craggy beacon]

yell at the mods enough theyll give you one

[brazen flicker]

Ah, weird. Yall gotta protest for colors fr
And an actual way to ping the unown roles

[rain tiger]

Alright I submitted it hope it's good enough. Koffreep 109.179: Clothes made from POKENAME’s wool will always have a distinctive odor, even when washed 100 times. However, the wool is still considered highly valuable to many rich folk due to smelling like exotic cheese.

[brazen flicker]

OHHHHHhhhhh I did not know it was a gyarados- That makes more sense w the full dex info context

[jagged ledge]

I could just trim the watering part, but I think it's a cute way to end the little parade they host.

[craggy beacon]

though tbf, our reasoning is that we were often spoken over in actual tech situations, so the mods agreed with us that we need another way to stand out other than a role icon

so frog gave us green

[final wagon]

The sweet milk produced within POKENAME's gourd is both delicious and nutritious, however it's only produced when the fusion is truly happy. Due to this, the few farmers who sell this milk are well respected for their practice.

This could probably use some reworking

[jagged ledge]

Glad I could clear it up!

[fossil root]

Are we allowed to make references to official Pokémon games?

[jagged ledge]

I think it depends

[ebon warren]

Only Frog can change roles and make a ping tag I think? Regardless, I don’t want to demand or protest anything right now, it’s a little too tumultuous. Perhaps once things die down in April

[jagged ledge]

And indirectly is probably preferred

[rain tiger]

I'm getting a feeling that this may be common for all Milktank Dex entries.

[jagged ledge]

Also canonically I think the game takes place before Gold and Silver.

[brazen flicker]

Honestly looks good! I like the worldbuilding, its my fav to read in dex entries

[ebon warren]

If it isn’t something already touched upon in the FAQs you’d need to give specifics here. We can always add it to the list

[final wagon]

I could mention it in passing to other staff, I can imagine Unowns might also suffer the same issue with the uptick in dex entry discussion (being talked over/not noticed)

[zealous shell]

i think unown having a colour would be helpful they are the ones able to give the best feedback after all

[ebon warren]

Yes it is very borderline breaking rules. Although I will say that this is actually based on real life, cows produce better milk when they’re happier

[final wagon]

it wasn't intended as nsfw if thats what you mean Just referencing that real life fact + its very happy pose

was also thinking maybe something Shuckle-like instead though

like how it ferments berries in its shell to berry juice

maybe these guys produce yummy cheese

idk Miltank fusions are hard lmao

[jagged ledge]

Hey guys

Can we just take a second to celebrate a dex entry channel?

Like seriously look at us go this is awesome lol

[brazen flicker]

An official channel shouldve been loong ago

[jagged ledge]

Well no use dwelling on the past

[final wagon]

better late than never

[jagged ledge]

Exactly

[fossil root]

https://www.fusiondex.org/sprite/pif/288.287c/
It's this Pokemon, the fusion of Gardevoir and Gallade. It resembles Iron Valiant, which itself is based on both Gardevoir and Gallade. I was wondering if we would be allowed to say it resembles Iron Valiant, as a reference to Violet.

[zealous shell]

having a dedicated space for this is pretty brilliant

[craggy beacon]

if it helps, we didn't demand, moreso poked a mod and asked if it would be possible

[ebon warren]

It could have a pumpkin theme, and possibly the milk is a lot thicker (since pumpkin does have ||antidiuretic properties||)

[jagged ledge]

My take on this (not an official statement) would be to say something along the lines of "It resembles rumored designs of a robot from the future."

[final wagon]

I was originally going to call it cream but that sounded,,, even worse

[fossil root]

Works for me!

[jagged ledge]

Like an indirect nod within the game's logic

[ebon warren]

Referencing lore is absolutely allowed, but since Gen 9 is in the future it would simply be a rumor, it wouldn’t be stated as fact

[sacred patio]

Does fusion dex have the approved custom entries?

[jagged ledge]

Nope

[ebon warren]

Yeah no, don’t do that

[fossil root]

When does this game take place? Like, what generation of Pokemon? For others to know.

[sacred patio]

Ok, because I’m pretty sure sandslash Gyrados has custom, but it’s not in fusion dex

[ebon warren]

That was never added with the GitHub issue, so hopefully it can be added next year, but it’s apparently a lot of backend work too

[sacred patio]

Every miltank fusion is gunna have to have a lot of editing before the entry is submitted, let’s be real

[jagged ledge]

I believe it takes place before Gen 2 because of the post-game

[brazen flicker]

Only way to check is ctrl+f on the approved sheet on pc, its over 10k entries

[sacred patio]

I’m on mobile…

[jagged ledge]

I will check for you in a moment

[sacred patio]

I know the dex entry in game is different from the fusion dex one, so I think it’s custom

[jagged ledge]

Is the game one green?

[sacred patio]

I don’t believe so

I may be crazy

[jagged ledge]

Can you take a screenshot

[sacred patio]

Not at the moment

[jagged ledge]

Ok

[sacred patio]

I’m going to take nap because tired

[jagged ledge]

Are you on 6.4.2 or 6.4.3?

[sacred patio]

5.1.4

Kidding lol

6.4.0

[jagged ledge]

If it's not green and it's not the default autogen, it's an AI entry

[sacred patio]

I thought that was only for autogen fusions

And I remember the entry being the same before 6.4

[jagged ledge]

Odd.

One sec checking the doc now

[ebon warren]

So I know that chronologically it has to be between Gens 1 and 2, since Cinnabar Island still exists.
But the battles and mechanics I believe are Gen 5?

[ashen anvil]

Could you not just call it juice and call it a day since it's a pumpkin?

[ebon warren]

With some stuff added from later Gens obviously (like Fairy type)

[jagged ledge]

Yeah there are two approved entries for Sandslash/Gyarados and one for Gyarados/Sandslash.

👍

[sacred patio]

I can whip out the pokemon adventures manga for lore

[ebon warren]

Bulbapedia is also a great reference for lore as well.

[jagged ledge]

Can't wait for Blaine to pull out the giant spoon during his gym battle

[willow venture]

Oh hey finally this is an actual channel

[jagged ledge]

Yeah

[willow venture]

I still need to check if my entries make it tbh

[fair thicket]

And we time travel three years into the future to fight Gold on Mt Silver.
As for whether megas and paradox forms are known to exist?

[willow venture]

Or if some entries got in already

[sacred patio]

Then his hand starts melting off…

[willow venture]

I've had some dex entries in mind but they're still like

Ehhhhhhhh idk

[jagged ledge]

Share them

[fair thicket]

Like how? Needing a beta-read?

[jagged ledge]

What's the worst they can do? Not approve them? That's why we give feedback and edit

[ebon warren]

I don’t think they do, no, because any designs using a Mega are alted immediately, so I’d assume they don’t. References would have to be framed as rumors or hypotheses.

[fair thicket]

Unintentionally break rule 2? 🤔

Maybe unintentionally reference a racial stereotype? That’s the worst I can think of.

[willow venture]

Yeah mostly

But also idk how to check if some sprites already got an entry (or a Pokefusion at all)

[fair thicket]

(Ughhhhhhh another hour until my shift ends)

[fair thicket]

That’s just a matter of scouring the googledoc, alas

[ebon warren]

You have to do Control F on the submitted entries list

[willow venture]

By Jove so clunky...

[jagged ledge]

Oh I meant the staff team after you submitted something but yeah I suppose lol

[ebon warren]

[jagged ledge]

You can also check the Dex Grid but that's only for entries right now because the sprite list isn't loaded onto it. The Catchable in the Wild category are high-priority Pokemon without entries, but then you need to watch for overlap with other incoming submissions.

[chrome forum]

Been going back and forth on the wording for this one, what do yall think?

POKENAME are often found in ancient ruins. Archeological finds from these sites suggest they would often bond with a young child, and would watch over their new partner as they grew up.

Or

POKENAME are often found in ancient ruins. Archeological finds from these sites suggest they often bonded with young children, and would act as the childs guardian as they grew.

[willow venture]

Are these based on both Remix/Classic catchables or only Classic rn

[jagged ledge]

Only classic right now I believe

[fair thicket]

i know this wasn’t what you were asking, but is it necessary to hedge? Why not “POKENAME are found in ancient ruins”, “they would bond with a young child”, etc?

🤔 does the archeology suggest that these Pokémon were created to be guardians for children, or if it’s something they did on their own?

[boreal prairie]

When we write entries, should we pretend fusions have always existed or always be cognizant of the idea that fusion tech was recentishly invented

Oh wait is that whats being talked about right now

[fair thicket]

Not really. I’m just giving critique on a draft 😅
I’ve seen custom entries in game that talk about fusions as if they’ve always existed

[ebon warren]

This is in the FAQs, fusions have existed (albeit rarely) forever in the PIF universe, but the artificial process was recently perfected.

[boreal prairie]

Where do i see FAQ?

[ebon warren]

The method of wild fusions occurring is unknown

[willow venture]

(Let's assume it's breeding shenanigans)

[boreal prairie]

Is the pin this this new channel?

[ebon warren]

The Google Doc of all the submissions has an FAQs tab

[fair thicket]

s- sk-skitty and wailord…

[final wagon]

POKENAME are known for producing delicious cheese, however its flavor heavily depends on the happiness of the fusion. Farmers selling particularly delicious cheeses are held in high regard for their practice.

is this any better

[ebon warren]

It’s not, but any attempt at explaining natural fusions needs to be purely hypothetical or it won’t be approved

[final wagon]

might've used delicious too many times

[fair thicket]

Radiation leak

[willow venture]

Ah okay however the fusion works is just headcanon presumptions for now then

[ebon warren]

Delectable for the second one

[fair thicket]

Tasty

[willow venture]

No like official "wild fusions happened because X" line yet

[final wagon]

POKENAME are known for producing delicious cheese, however its flavor heavily depends on the happiness of the fusion. Farmers selling particularly delectable cheeses are held in high regard for their practice.

How's that

[ebon warren]

Likely there won’t be. That’s part of the lore. It’s not known how it happens, only that it can, so humans made a way to do it themselves

[fair thicket]

Yes, but X stands for “we have no flucking clue”

[ebon warren]

Oh one more change, hang on

[ebon warren]

The its has a broken antecedent, cheese is the object of a preposition just prior which would mean the pronoun is referencing the POKENAME plural placeholder. You’ll have to reword it so the cheese is accurately described there

[final wagon]

hmm

[fair thicket]

“The” instead of “its”?

That’s the quick solution, at least

[ebon warren]

Or just remove the comma and add more prepositional phrases

With flavors varying based on the happiness of the fusion from which it came or something

[final wagon]

sounds a bit too wordy hrm

[boreal prairie]

I read the FAQ and I don't this is actually on there unless I'm spacing

[regal cedar]

sort of an indirect answer to the question but, yeah

[boreal prairie]

Yeah one can extrapolate from some answers a rational conclusion

[final wagon]

POKENAME are known for producing delicious cheese, the flavor of which is heavily affected by the fusion's happiness. Farmers selling particularly delectable cheeses are held in high regard for their practice.

Does this still have the same issue?

[ebon warren]

Nope, excellent reworking

[final wagon]

yay

[ebon warren]

[final wagon]

english is difficult

[ebon warren]

||Don’t I know it ||

[ebon warren]

Also congratulations to @hexed fog!

[timid sky]

(You can call it stupid BTW)

[final wagon]

honestly? yea

[chrome forum]

Sorry for a slow response, work got busy for a sec! I was specifically writing this through sorta through the lens of actual archeology! "Often" was used because I imagine that would be found in places that don't appear to be actual ruins(as in there is no trace of anything, besides these Pokémon). And I kept the bonding part not 100% concrete because we rarely know what somethings use was in archeology, it's almost always just a best guess based on surrounding context clues.

[fair thicket]

🤔 :nodnod: thought that was the reasoning, hrmm

[final wagon]

Tricksters by nature, POKENAME revel in pulling pranks on others. It's thought that the more extravagant their pranks, the more the fusion likes that person. Unfortunately, these fusions are often abandoned due to such shenanigans.

[chrome forum]

I like that a lot! It LOOKS like a little trickster, so I think the description fits super well!

[fair thicket]

It’s the toof

One little fang

[chrome forum]

It truly is the toof that does it, agreed.

[final wagon]

I was thinking of making the evo continue along a similar path. Since Riolu is a friendship evo, and Lucario is able to read auras, their entry/entries would likely include something about it realizing how stressful its pranks were and maybe something about its increased loyalty to the trainer for sticking with it.

[ebon warren]

Plurality is inconsistent, otherwise it’s good

[final wagon]

yeah I knew something was off

[fair thicket]

Ah, so “Tricksters by nature” 😌

[ebon warren]

Or Natural tricksters

[final wagon]

yee I changed the plurality part way through writing and forgot to fix the rest

[fair thicket]

As opposed to artificial tricksters

Canned tricksters
Gluten-free tricksters

[final wagon]

does the second sentence also feel off? going from 'their pranks' (the species as a whole?) to 'the fusion' (a singular one of that species)

[ebon warren]

Yes although it can be tweaked in other ways too. Making person the last word of the sentence is a bit clunky

[boreal prairie]

What is the upper character limit for a 1 page entry?

I know the limit overall is between 100 and 250

[final wagon]

I was thinking something like

Tricksters by nature, POKENAME revel in pulling pranks on others. It's thought that the more extravagant one's pranks, the fonder one is of the victim. Unfortunately, these fusions are often abandoned due to such shenanigans.

still too clunky?

Tricksters by nature, POKENAME revel in pulling pranks on others. It's thought that the extravagance of one's pranks reflects their fondness for the victim. Unfortunately, these fusions are often abandoned due to such shenanigans.

another idea

kinda vibing with the last one tbh

[chrome forum]

I agree, I like the flow of the second one a lot.

[fair thicket]

I was wondering if you could combine where it’s found with what is found, like “archeological finds from the ruins where this Pokémon makes its home suggest…” etc, though that makes its own wonkiness 🤔
And I feel like something could be done with observations of its modern behavior?
But this could be me barreling over your idea to be something I’d write, ah 😅

[final wagon]

I love how I got on the computer to play games and instead started writing dex entries for some of my sprites lmao

[chrome forum]

Hmmmmmmm, I think I can see something like that working! lemme see what I can do within the character limit lmao

[fair thicket]

Ah, the dreaded character limit

[chrome forum]

Archeological data gathered from ruins home to POKENAME suggest they were bonded with a child from birth, serving as a guardian and protector. They are often seen searching various alcoves and hidden spots, trying to find their lost partners.

Something like this ya think?

[fair thicket]

Well now it’s sad XD

[final wagon]

Love that (even though is sad)

[chrome forum]

Lmao YEAH, it certainly made it a lot sadder

I do think I like it more than the original draft tho

[fair thicket]

I was expecting something like them playing nursemaid to modern-day kids, so the manifestation took me off-guard XD

[chrome forum]

It's essentially "what if your childhood dog was immortal"

Loyal to a fault, waiting for someone who's long gone to come back home, I imagine it's why they always stay close to the ruins.

[final wagon]

ah I accidentally misnumbered by Miltank/Gourgeist submission

thats awkward

[boreal prairie]

Any idea for increasing concision: "If you hear its screech, you know you are safe from its deadly talons, because if you were its prey, it'd grab you before you heard the sound."

[fair thicket]

Yeah, the changes make it clearer what you were going for, since I was originally picturing nanny, not dog 😌

[sacred patio]

Survivors of POKENAME attacks tell of its horrific shrill cries, others weren’t so lucky

Something like that?

[boreal prairie]

Hm, the idea i want to convey is it flies faster than sound, so if you hear the screech it isn't targeting you

[boreal prairie]

That's a great sentence abstractly though!

[sacred patio]

Oh ok

[boreal prairie]

(Charmelon/Pidgeot btw)

[sacred patio]

Does it always fly at speed of sound or is it only during certain times? Such as diving

[boreal prairie]

Also Sabeleye solidarity ✊

[final wagon]

Those who hear it's haunting cry are safe, as by the time one hears it, its prey is already within grasp.

maybe?

[boreal prairie]

This gives me an idea, hold

[final wagon]

needs some tweaking (using 'it' to refer to different things within the same sentence is probably confusing) but something along those lines

(also just using 'it' too many times feels repetitive )

Those who hear POKENAME's haunting cry are safe, as by the time the sound is heard, its prey is already within grasp.

[boreal prairie]

It blazes faster than sound across the sky as a fiery ball of blue-white fire. By the time its shrill cry is heard, POKENAME's prey is already grasped by its deadly talons.

caught instead of grasped maybe

clutched

[final wagon]

or 'already within its deadly grip/grasp'

[chrome forum]

I was also gonna suggest using "within", fits well with the vibe

[boreal prairie]

I'm trying to make sure 'talons' is in there because of the claw focus in Charmelon's entries

It is a shame we never turned taloned into a real verb lol

[final wagon]

also maybe

Faster than sound, it blazes across the sky as a blue-white ball of flame/fire.

I feel like "fiery ball of fire" is a bit much fire and kinda redundant

[boreal prairie]

It is annoying Charmander and Charmeleon are both Char- for their default names

Is skewered too gruesome a word?

[final wagon]

also 'is already grasped' feels clunky due to tense, I think. 'is' is present-tense but 'grasped' is past-tense.

[boreal prairie]

Faster than sound, it blazes across the sky as a blue-white ball of flame. By the time its shrill cry is heard, POKENAME's prey is already skewered by deadly talons.

[final wagon]

should be 'has already been grasped' or something along those lines

or 'has already been skewered'

[boreal prairie]

Thanks, I think that one is good to submit! 6 down, only 9 more charmander-pidgey lines to go...

[limber parrot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JOqitOP72D-s_es1-F7OzVPUkKJ3tytjfvhptx1KAK8/edit?resourcekey#gid=1870730174 heres the approved entries

[final wagon]

also one more small revision

I'm not sure, but 'it' in the first and second sentence might be kinda unknown since we have no prior reference? Replacing it with POKENAME would give future 'it' uses a reference I think, and flow better:

Faster than sound, POKENAME blazes across the sky as a blue-white ball of flame. By the time its shrill cry is heard, its prey has already been skewered by deadly talons.

just a thought

(could also replace one of the its with 'this fusion' if theres too many its)

[boreal prairie]

Many real pokedex entries only ever say "It" at all since I think they assume you know it refers to the pokemon you're looking at

has been my thinking

[final wagon]

fair point

haven't read official dex entries in awhile

guess now that I think about it, a lot of them just say 'it' or 'its' assuming in reference to the mon unless explicitly stated otherwise

so probably fine yeah

[fair thicket]

alright, here's the googledoc of spriter notes I threw together (and hopefully a google doc won't violate the rule against file sharing? 🤞)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgPza4br-FAwj7t9VPAU4g_I4E2nfTRf2nGuMc96S-E/edit?usp=sharing
green is for entries I've already written, grey is entries I'm brainstorming, and everything else is fair game, obv.
Essentially, I'd find these sorts of notes helpful in terms of idea generation or where the spriter was coming from in terms of design.

There are sprites I don't have lore for, and there are those where it'd just be a bad idea. Like, the only things that come to mind for absol/bewear are

This fusion was originally mistaken for Absol cosplay. It wasn't. There were no survivors.

[final wagon]

PFFFF

I know its not viable but wow thats hilarious

yall having lore about your sprites is awesome, im over here making shit up on the fly

[fair thicket]

or, if I hadn't hit enter too soon

It sings auguries of destruction. Those who fail to heed its warnings get beat the fuck up.

[final wagon]

man I wish we could put that in

[fair thicket]

actually, i'm pretty sure I stole "auguries of destruction" from the Legend of the Dragoon soundtrack

for the Greater Dog ref:

Though imposing in stature and trained as stalwart guardians, POKENAME would rather play with intruders than fend them off. They enjoy headpats, fetch, and can even be taught some rudimentary card games.

[boreal prairie]

"Those who fail to heed its dread warnings soon find themselves battered and bruised."

[fair thicket]

I was thinking something about pummeling for the G-rated version
pummeling's a good word

[boreal prairie]

pummeled within an inch of their lives.

[sacred patio]

Find themselves at the wrong end of its spear

[fair thicket]

speaking of G-rated

Legend says these pokemon guard the gates to the underworld. When the wind passes through their teeth, they make sounds like someone whimpering in pain.

it looks boschian, so I was poking around something Hell-related. The edgelord version would be

Legend says these pokemon guard the gates to hell. When the wind passes through their teeth, the cries of tortured sinners can be heard.

[fair thicket]

wrong sprite!

[fair thicket]

"make sounds like someone whimpering in pain" is clunky, but I didn't want to give the false impression that they themselves are in pain

[final wagon]

Despite POKENAME's intimidating appearance, they are thought to be guardians of ancient cities. Legend has it that this fusion's presence wards off evil spirits.

(vaguely referencing gargoyles/grotesques, which were inspiration for the fusion)

[fair thicket]

Despite, or because?

[final wagon]

maybe intimidating isn't the right word dark? villainous?

The thought was that it doesn't exactly look like it'd be a good guy

[sacred patio]

Wouldn’t it not be a ward, but instead be scaring off the spirits?

[fair thicket]

oh ye, and i was expanding on the idea that a guardian should be intimidating 😌

[final wagon]

ward;

archaic
guard; protect.

[fair thicket]

nah, "wards off" means "scare off"
well, kinda actually. "Scare off" implies an action on the pokemon's part, whereas "wards off" could be action or just its presence.

[final wagon]

to 'ward off' is to keep something or someone away, or prevent something from happening

a scarecrow wards off crows, for example

(to varying success)

[fair thicket]

though it is tricky, since "to ward off" means to scare away, but a "ward" is someone you protect/under your protection

[final wagon]

to ward off illness is to prevent yourself from becoming ill

verb vs noun usage yeah

[fair thicket]

One of these fusions better be a thesaurus
goes on explaining all the meanings of words

~~"Worm, don't you mean an etymologist?" It can be Bug type if it wants 😌 ~~

[final wagon]

I've learned a few new words from another, unrelated fan game I play lol. Usually if I run into a word I dont recognize I look it up.

diurnal and crepuscular, bunting, and brumation were all words I learned through that otheer game

[sacred patio]

Like how machop meowth is math

[final wagon]

(bunting as in, an animal butting their head/horn; not the bird)

brumation is essentially the reptilian version of hibernation (which is strictly used mammals), diurnal is active during the day (opposite of nocturnal) and crepuscular is active during twilight.

[fair thicket]

huh. i've never seen "bunting" used to mean butting heads. I've heard it used to refer to decorative streamers and flags, though

huh. learned something new

[final wagon]

yee

most just use 'headbutt'

[fair thicket]

maybe related to bunting as in baseball? 🤔

[final wagon]

probably

google suggests this, via oxford dictionary

so might be the other way around

[fair thicket]

animal experts wanted a less embarrassing word than "butt" 🤭

[jagged ledge]

I think that might be a bit too extreme for the game. Perhaps changing the first one to "the sound of someone screaming in terror" or something?

[fair thicket]

heh "whimpering in pain" is more extreme than "screaming in terror"?

[jagged ledge]

Well I meant the tortured sinner part lol

[fair thicket]

oh yeah. the second is the "uncensored" version i added just for lols. The first was what I was thinking of for an actual dex entry.

[jagged ledge]

Ah gotcha lol

[fair thicket]

🤔 maybe i should've formatted the non-entry version with indents or smth to make it clear it's different

[jagged ledge]

Oh well lol

[fair thicket]

ah, i mean for the future 😌 if it comes up again

[jagged ledge]

Now we know

[fair thicket]

but yeah, you saw the googledoc of spriter notes? does that seem like something other folks might appreciate having?

[brazen flicker]

Damn I have not seen dex entries this active in forever

[rain tiger]

I only noticed this channel just today.

[final wagon]

new channel in a much more easily found location :D

[crystal breach]

I've made my first experimental dex entry
"The internal organ inside a POKENAME can track time so precisely, it knows when its predators go to sleep at night. It uses this time to cautiously scavenge for food."

im open to input and/or ideas

[fair thicket]

Why does it need to measure time precisely to know when its predators aren't awake?

I don't dislike the idea, though.

[crystal breach]

it sounded more interesting in my mind

[fair thicket]

🤔 thoughts, thoughts...
think it just needs a tweak to get the pieces to gel...

[crystal breach]

yeah, i agree
this is my first dex idea after all

[brazen flicker]

The predator thing makes sense, because its prey and uses the time to scavenge for food

[final wagon]

This fusion's internal clock is so precise, it can track when its predators fall asleep. It spends this time cautiously scavenging for food, fleeing to its nest when time is up.

maybe?

[brazen flicker]

The connection between tracking time and predators sleeping might be a little far, but it sounds cool!

[fair thicket]

it's more about the precision
most animals try to be active when their predators aren't awake, which they can do based on amount of light present. I feel like I want just a bit more oomph

[wanton bloom]

anyone wanna come up with a custom entry for this fusion I just made?

[brazen flicker]

Ah, I see

[final wagon]

I could envision it being something like a very fast learner for the habits of others (mainly predators)

[brazen flicker]

It uses big rocks in space to throw meteors at unsuspecting bunnelbys :)

[fair thicket]

heh, well if you give us some notes on the design or gestures at thoughts you had, maybe we could work from that

[fair thicket]

yeye, something like that 🤔

[final wagon]

its worth noting dex entries can't be submitted until the sprite is added to the game (which takes about two months after it's posted to gallery)

[wanton bloom]

ah thats fair enough

[brazen flicker]

Maybe you could tie the precision to good memory? Like, it's so precise it can reliably predict when fruit is grown, if it eats fruit. Or it's been known to avoid certain spots if it had an accident, etc, play around w it

[wanton bloom]

I dont have anything in mind, surprise me!

[final wagon]

we might be toying with something that allows for entries to be submitted sooner though 👀

[crystal breach]

With the help of its internal organ, POKENAME can track its predators sleeping patterns and times. When the time is right, POKENAME scrounges for food.
What about something like this?

[final wagon]

no promises though

[brazen flicker]

In all honesty it makes me think of a pokemon in space, it looks like a perfect asteroid belt/comet/etc

[brazen flicker]

Thats, just the same thing but written differently-

[fair thicket]

POKENAME was thought to be an exile from the asteroid belt something something something

[fair thicket]

sleeping patterns -> behavioral patterns?

[final wagon]

same thing but written with a bit more specificity, if you want to stick with the 'tracks predators sleeping patterns' idea

[fair thicket]

smth smth tracks predators' behavioral patterns, allowing it to cunningly avoid getting eated or smth

[jagged ledge]

Oh?

[crystal breach]

i like the idea of using sleeping patterns bc its like an owl, so itd be active at night when most things arent

so i wanna include that into its dex entry

[final wagon]

rodents are also often more active at night, so double bonus

,,, actually kinda ironic since owls eat rodents

nature is funny like that

[crystal breach]

i'll stew on that idea for now

i'll look around for any other sprites with dex entries i might have better ideas for
...whilst gaming

[fair thicket]

let it marinate 😌

if you want to, i did post a google doc with some design notes on my sprites if any of that might give you ideas

[terse pawn]

Do y'all help making custom entries?

[jagged ledge]

Always

[fair thicket]

do we need help or are you asking for help or something else?

[jagged ledge]

Oh I thought that asked if we NEED help

[terse pawn]

If you guys uh

Let me try to express myself

Give ideas

Sorry English is not my first language 💀

[jagged ledge]

It's alright

Sure we'd be happy to help

[fair thicket]

🤔 are you offering ideas? or are you asking for ideas?

[terse pawn]

Asking

[candid gust]

It's alright, I'm still learning more every day and it is my first language 😌

[terse pawn]

I can offer ideas too probs

[final wagon]

We could, if you'd like

[fair thicket]

cool
what ideas do you want?

[terse pawn]

I got a C1 that it's like, a certificate that proves that you have a high English level, yet I still struggle

[jagged ledge]

Hey I got a BFA and I struggle to draw a straight line lol

We're all human here

[final wagon]

I'm a native speaker and I struggle too sometimes, English is just like that

[fair thicket]

you should hear me speak spanish.
trust me, you're better at English than I am at Spanish.

[terse pawn]

Tbf Spanish is very difficult we have like 500 different ways to say the same thing

Any of these guys, first one is a Collab but I created them both kinda

[fair thicket]

🤔 so sunkern/flareon and... reference sprite?

[candid gust]

in english 500 things can be said the same way

[final wagon]

I need to learn more Spanish, we have a lot of hispanic customers (and just population in general) in my area and I struggle to take orders sometimes when I don't have a spanish-speaking coworker around

[fickle grail]

I should make an entry for every main team member I've had

[jagged ledge]

Yes

[fair thicket]

and sometimes the same word can mean the opposite of what it means

[terse pawn]

Nah I just like making things burn

[terse pawn]

Like grin, smile, smirk

[fair thicket]

bare teeth

[fair thicket]

what's the second sprite?

[terse pawn]

In Spanish ¿cómo como? Is translated as "how do I eat"

[candid gust]

A X O L O T L

[terse pawn]

Porygon/wooper

Let me check the order just in case

Okay it's actually wooper/Porygon

[fair thicket]

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo. 😌
checkmate, hispanohablantes.

[terse pawn]

Something like that yeah

And for some reason carpet is "alfombra" and not "carpeta" the hell

[candid gust]

!nruter yam I taht srewop tneihcna eht ekovni I ! nrub ot emoc sah emit ym L T O L O X A

[fair thicket]

anyway
🤔 for sunkern/flareon, i'd start by asking whether the fusion regenerates its foliage or whether the fire doesn't consume it...

[fair thicket]

al- prefix? Probably an arabic loanword, I'd guess 🤔

[jagged ledge]

Maybe something about how the Sunkern/Flareon fusion is oblivious to the fire along its body?

[jagged ledge]

Why do I suddenly feel like eating doritos

[terse pawn]

Let's d
Say hat once it consumes all it regenerates? And maybe the body heat makes it burn again

[terse pawn]

Yea that too cause he's just like •v•

[final wagon]

for the first one:
something about its mane/tail consisting of dry grasses, and it accidentally lighting itself (and surroundings) on fire sometimes?

[terse pawn]

That can work too...

[jagged ledge]

"POKENAME generate heat strong enough to set their foliage ablaze. They often don't realize that their leaves are burning as they can be shed and regrown without pain."?

[fair thicket]

Don't forget elements that can't be conveyed visually! like smell 😌

[fair thicket]

rearrange the second sentence... lemme think...

[terse pawn]

We can also add something like, it burns it surrounding too, but it's a clumsy pokemon so it doesn't realize

[fair thicket]

would also gel with its inability to feel itself burning.
think that's a similar problem to people irl who can't feel pain - they don't realize when they've damaged themselves

[candid gust]

I had an absolutely terrible idea about campers using its leaves for fires

[terse pawn]

This reminds me of one day that I left the spoon on my mug and put it on the microwaves I didn't realize until 2 minutes later when the microwave finished

[jagged ledge]

Oh no

[crystal breach]

is your microwave alright?

[terse pawn]

Had to toss them milk away cause I don't want a third leg

[terse pawn]

Somehow it didn't explode

[crystal breach]

well thats good

[terse pawn]

But I panicked when I realized and ran to the kitchen

[fair thicket]

I did hear that metal doesn't destroy modern microwaves or that it's overexaggerated
but don't take some internet rando's comments as gospel

[terse pawn]

My microwave ain't modern at all and it was like 4/5 years ago so..m

[terse pawn]

What if it?

Is it

[candid gust]

Still really bad for the microwave, as most modern metal utensils reflect the waves they use back outwards.

[terse pawn]

One day I told some random guy to put some eggs and sausages on a microwave to reheat them cause I thought it was common knowledge to not put eggs in a microwave, he ended up without a microwave

Well not tell him, he asked me and say yes thinking he was gonna ignore me

[fair thicket]

i once told someone at work who was feeling feverish to take her temperature using the cabinet thermometers
and she did
i was joking
thankfully it wasn't the lab job

[terse pawn]

😭😭

One day I was doing practices as am EMT in a funfair and a lady came and told me "yo is this broken" and showed me her wrist

I won't be descriptive but

It was in fact broken

Even my mentor had a shocked face

And meanwhile she was smoking

[jagged ledge]

Oh nooooo

[terse pawn]

She was pretty chill after making 2 EMTs panic

[final wagon]

Lacking both eyes and ears, POKENAME often have a hard time navigating and aren't great battlers. However, they're quite cheerful by nature, despite their struggles.

[tardy thorn]

oh hey new channel

[final wagon]

welcome to the cool kids club Gordo

come make fun of our improper grammar and nitpick our minor issues

[tardy thorn]

I caught wind of this from just reading bot logs' edited messages, but didn't know if y'all went through with it

Neat

[jagged ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/horton-who-we-are-gif-4341257169617097428

[sacred patio]

How many entries should i make a day?

[jagged ledge]

As many or few as you like

This is still a fun little side project of a fangame, don't force yourself to go crazy over them

[tribal relic]

If you’re not writing 100 a day you’re not doing it right /j

[final wagon]

The sudden formation of eyes upon evolution was incredibly stressful for POKENAME, making it much more volatile than its previous form. Bright lights seem to anger them, and they often give chase to anything that moves too quickly.

POKENAME seems to have accepted its newfound vision, however begrudgingly. They can often be found sulking in dark places, glaring at any light that creeps through.

[half drum]

that is a face of hatred

[chrome forum]

I really like all 3 of those entries! They way they all play off each other makes me like the sprites a lot, it characterizes them really well!

[tardy thorn]

POKENAME determine which hook is dominant through duels of "Tug of War", seeing which can pull the other further. These duels also prevent their hooks from dulling.

[chrome forum]

I was getting ready to add some notes, but you made almost the exact revisions I was gonna suggest before I had a chance to type them out!

[tardy thorn]

Yeah, I realized the wording of the last line was a bit weird

I knew what I wanted

But just wasn't sure on how to word it

[final wagon]

such is the way

[past cypress]

Checked the spreadsheet and looks like all high priority wild pokemon have dex entries?

[chrome forum]

POKENAME are able to channel energy from the soles of their feet for an explosive burst of speed. However because of their weight they lack the ability to change direction mid-burst, often causing them to slam into things with very alarming force.

[past cypress]

Damn that's a cool sprite lol

[chrome forum]

I like the idea on this guy a lot, but the wording feels kinda clunky to me rn?

Cus he LOOKS like he has zero control of the direction he's flying in.

[past cypress]

Maybe having a comma helps?

[solid bolt]

It’s very wordy I’d say

[fair thicket]

is not was
remove "seem to"

[timid sky]

Maybe say mid-flight instead of mid-burst?

[past cypress]

Maybe change it to "However, they lack the ability to change direction...."

Since it cuts down the words while maintaining the meaning

[chrome forum]

POKENAME are able to channel energy from the soles of their feet for an explosive burst of speed. However, they lack the ability to change direction mid-flight, often causing them to slam into things with very alarming force.

[fair thicket]

"can often be" -> "are often"
🤔 light creeping isn't wrong, but in this case it might be confused with the actions of a critter. Perhaps have the light seep instead?

[chrome forum]

Better?

[past cypress]

I like it

[tardy thorn]

Could see this having better flow

• Changed for an -> into
• Changed burst to bursts
• Added ,
• Changed they to POKENAME

POKENAME are able to channel energy from the soles of their feet into explosive bursts of speed. However, because of their weight POKENAME lack the ability to change direction mid-burst, often causing them to slam into things with very alarming force.

Dex Entry Patch Notes

[warped panther]

I don't think that's in IF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

[tardy thorn]

my joke

[timid sky]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-just-stop-please-stop-stop-it-meme-gif-26307878

[past cypress]

Despite it's prankster personality, some gardeners swear by using POKENAME to assist with gardening activities. Seeds sewn by this Pokémon appear to sprout much faster than normal.

Thoughts?

[fair thicket]

Dex yourself, yanmega

[warped panther]

I don't think that's in IF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

[fair thicket]

tbf, that was me baiting it

[timid sky]

What did I just say

[chrome forum]

Oo, I like the flow on this one a lot! Thanks!

[jagged ledge]

I'm just so happy seeing these discussions thrive

[halcyon condor]

I think you used the wrong spelling of sewn, I'm pretty sure the correct spelling in this context is "sown"

I think

I may be wrong

[fair thicket]

🤔
lemme see
gdi i know exactly what's clunky but I'm spacing how to fix it

[past cypress]

Despite it's prankster personality, some gardeners swear by using POKENAME for its unique talents. Seeds sown by this Pokémon appear to sprout much faster than normal, making it a very helpful ally for growing lush gardens

[fair thicket]

🤔 what sorts of pranks does it play?

[past cypress]

Probably the same type of pranks that old european lore would say about the fae or leperchauns

[fair thicket]

🤔 "Despite its impish personality" or "Despite its impishness", perhaps?

[past cypress]

Swapping out crops magically, stealing tools, etc.

[solid bolt]

I like mischievous, personally

[past cypress]

Its a grass fairy type

[fair thicket]

pushing people who annoy it down the stairs

[fair thicket]

a good word

[past cypress]

Maybe? The sprite doesn't look evil necessarily just more of an annoyance

[solid bolt]

Also maybe it should be “swear on”, rather than “swear by”?

[solid bolt]

Just look at its smug grin

[fair thicket]

"swear by" is a known phrase, but it doesn't gel well here. 🤔 I guess just "swear by POKENAME" instead of "swear by using"?

[past cypress]

Is it "swear on"? I've always seen the term "swear by" when you swear by a product or method that's unconventional

[solid bolt]

Yeah that

[stuck shoal]

can I rq get feedback on dex entries for the secret santa sprites I made? I want to make them in advance, I won't post them to the submission sheet atm

[tardy thorn]

👍

[solid bolt]

It’s cuz it’s “swear by using it” rather than “swear by it” in this situation

[stuck shoal]

wait i think i have some sprites i havent done yet, one second

[fair thicket]

yeye, which is why i wanted to confirm what sorts of pranks it plays
very different if it ties your shoelaces together vs shoves you off a cliff

[past cypress]

Oh I meant to comment that as a reply to someone else when they mentioned pushing people down the stairs

Yeah def the tying shoelaces together as opposed to pushing you off a cliff

Despite it's mischievous personality, some gardeners swear by using POKENAME as a farmhand due to its unique talents. Seeds sown by this Pokémon appear to sprout much faster than normal.

[nocturne shadow]

Question, if a dex entry were to reference other pokemon, would it be ok to say like for example "Octilery and it's fusions" or should I just say "Octillery"

[solid bolt]

Farmhand is one word iirc

[chrome forum]

Id say just "Octillery" would be fine, if for no other reason than to help keep word/character counts in check?

[nocturne shadow]

Ok, and how do I make my words "bolded" like that

[stuck shoal]

492.450.png
"POKENAME absorbs sugars and gluten from any food it comes into contact with, adding to its mass. Its chemically-dense body is hazardous if eaten by humans or smaller Pokémon."

[solid bolt]

Maybe “, adding to its mass” instead of “to add to its mass”?

[past cypress]

I don't like the word "whatever" personally

I feel like it could do without the word and make sense still if you were looking to shorten it tbh

[solid bolt]

“any and all” maybe?

[chrome forum]

Do you mean Bolded or Blocked out?

[timid sky]

So I just checked the submission form, and there are a lot of entries that haven't been gone over yet

[nocturne shadow]

blocked out in this case

[past cypress]

Yeah it's been a minute since it's been looked at

Like, weeks worth iirc

[fair thicket]

code

dis guy

[nocturne shadow]

Like this?

Ok

[fair thicket]

can also use ``` on either side of the text

[nocturne shadow]

Cool, thanks

[fair thicket]

To make a full text box

[solid bolt]

‘“hmm”’

Im not getting it

[final wagon]

` not '

the one to the top-left, near your 1 key

(unless thats just my keyboard)

[fair thicket]

`
not '

[solid bolt]

I’m on mobile lmao

[fair thicket]

yeah, it might differ on international keyboards

[fair thicket]

and that
i've had to make do on mobile

[chrome forum]

Maybe instead of is a hazard if eaten could be changed to is hazardous when eaten?

[nocturne shadow]

9.255.png
When POKENAME battle, they usually do in a one-on-one, gunslinging duel. It frequently has feuds with Octillery

[final wagon]

dunno how to help there, it depends on your phone's keyboard

[fair thicket]

two ls in octillery

[nocturne shadow]

Thanks. Pokegrammer in not my strong-suit

[chrome forum]

Also on mobile here, for me it's on page 2 of the symbols, right under the 1 on my keyboard

[timid sky]

That's not grammar that's spelling

[nocturne shadow]

I'm not smart alright lol

[fair thicket]

i was gonna call out the typo given the circumstances

[timid sky]

What typo

[halcyon condor]

Ot but I just opened the dex entry spreadsheet and it crashed the app ejfhekfjrf

[final wagon]

its on this page

[timid sky]

Yeah, there's A LOT of entries

[fair thicket]

🤔 just for funzies
what do you think of It frequently feuds with Octillery.?

[solid bolt]

That’s the second pic

[tardy thorn]

Tryna get inspiration for the last in the line

[fair thicket]

qwilfish/aegislash?

[tardy thorn]

yep

[fair thicket]

the blade looks like a key... is that supposed to be it? or just spikes/spines?

[boreal prairie]

I have finished the complete Charmander-Pidgey matrix. Let me figure how to share for comments...

[halcyon condor]

It's a fishhook right?

[final wagon]

hhuh guess you just dont have it

rip

[fair thicket]

ah

[halcyon condor]

I saw the Doublade version

Wait no it's a harpoon of some sort

[fair thicket]

see, this is why i want spriter notes

[tardy thorn]

This one's a harpoon

[halcyon condor]

YEAA I GOT IT

[boreal prairie]

Hm, I've seen before discord say "upload as a .txt" did they get rid of that?

[fair thicket]

fishhook to harpoon is inspired 👀

[timid sky]

Try looking at each Pokémon's official entries

[chrome forum]

Try pressing and holding on the ' key, and see if it's accessible that way? Older keyboards tended to do that sorta short cut a lot.

[stuck shoal]

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"The garden atop POKENAME are made up of seeds from whatever they eat. The hump stores rainwater caught, keeping both POKENAME and their plants nourished."

"POKENAME, when placed in a farm, have consistently taken the role of herding other cattle Pokémon. They are most happy when assisting others or working."

"In the wild, POKENAME have been found in herds of various Pokémon, even species that are more solitary. Many have even been spotted with grass Pokémon growing in their head dish."

[past cypress]

Am I allowed to reference the original base pokemon in an entry?

[halcyon condor]

I'm struggling to find fusions to write dex entries for ;-;

[final wagon]

any food it comes into contact should be any food it comes into contact with

[solid bolt]

'''Testing'''

[final wagon]

also chemical-dense I think?

[halcyon condor]

THESE GUYS ARE SO CUTE

[timid sky]

Just do entries for any you find in game without them

[odd cove]

how can i tell if a mon already has a dex entry?

[final wagon]

could be wrong on that last one tbf

'chemically dense body' just sounds a bit off not sure what about it

[halcyon condor]

I can't play the game atm because my laptop is slow as ass

[tardy thorn]

I think I got my idea

[nocturne shadow]

I kinda chose it because I like seeing pokemon work like an ecosystem, like how corsola and Mareanie work. I would have chosen Intellion or Greninja, but because neither are in the the game and blastoise I felt would be to simple, octillery seemed like the next best thing. Plus, this octopus needs some love.

[halcyon condor]

There's a spreadsheet

[final wagon]

check on

[odd cove]

ty

[final wagon]

how tf did I quickly hyperlink that

wtf

[tardy thorn]

teach me

[final wagon]

I dont know how I did that

[halcyon condor]

Is that a Snowgrave reference in there

[nocturne shadow]

Bro's just built different

[tardy thorn]

noooo

[final wagon]

I just typed 'check on' and pasted the link and it

auto hyperlinked????

idk

wack

[tardy thorn]

'check on' https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JOqitOP72D-s_es1-F7OzVPUkKJ3tytjfvhptx1KAK8/edit?resourcekey#gid=1870730174

[fair thicket]

oh, heh, i was just asking whether you preferred the phrasing It frequently has feuds with Octillery. over It frequently feuds with Octillery.
and greninja is in as of 6.4 😌

[tardy thorn]

I'll experiment

[past cypress]

Despite its appearance to its much more aggressive cousin Scolipede, POKENAME has a very gentle and kind nature. It often allows children to play on its back, leaving a trail of flowers in its wake

Thoughts?

[final wagon]

wait I found it

[stuck shoal]

dont think so but also RAAAH I LOVE DELTARUNE!!!!

[halcyon condor]

I prefer the second one

[final wagon]

no... hm

[halcyon condor]

The not approved Stantler one I'm 90% sure is referencing Noelle

[halcyon condor]

I love it so much

[nocturne shadow]

Right, kalos update. I still haven't seen a frokie yet on remix, or like any of the starters, so it just slipped my mind

[stuck shoal]

I mean it looking like scolipede is expected, its a fusion

maybe bring up the claws instead?

it's not an issue but idk, that sentence is phrased awkwardly

[tardy thorn]

I think I got it

[nocturne shadow]

I kinda wanna try and make one per day just so I can help out. I suck at art but I do like worldbuilding

[timid sky]

Whelp, it's midnight so I'm going to bed

[fair thicket]

👉 👈 problem with a busy channel
drafts get lost without being fully workshopped

[tardy thorn]

wtf is this keybind

CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+W

[stuck shoal]

"Despite its sharp claws and imposing figure, POKENAME has a far more gentle and kind demeanor than its aggressive cousin Scolipede." idk this is a bit wordy

[stuck shoal]

also could I get feedback on these? I want them to be ready when they're finally in the game

[final wagon]

thanks for the jumpscare

anyways I found it kinda

maybe

if you highlight text while typing and paste a link it'll auto hyperlink that highlighted text

[boreal prairie]

yeah might need a dex-work zone

[fair thicket]

*imposing

[stuck shoal]

the dex chats normally are limited to a few people so they're normally more manageable but since they have attention on them there's far more people, def needs more channels fvgbhnju

[boreal prairie]

i cannot figure out a good way to share all these

[stuck shoal]

copy and paste them in, I think that might be the only way to do that0

[chrome forum]

Despite a close resemblance to its much more aggressive cousin Scolipede, POKENAME has a very gentle and kind nature. It often allows children to play on its back, leaving a trail of flowers in its wake.

I think this flows a bit better, if you wanna keep close to the base concept?

[boreal prairie]

Too long, and the formatting is all borked. Maybe on my computer tomorrow instead of my phone

[final wagon]

a forum channel where people post their dex entry and others can give feedback/revisions in the thread..?

idk sseems a bit excessive..

[stuck shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563351597317488661/1274466083813982318/catexplodion.gif

[chrome forum]

Haha yeah, I'm trying to work through all the ones that haven't received feedback rn

[past cypress]

adding

[final wagon]

I think the idea of a dex entry gallery (basically, only dex entries, no discussion; similar to sprite/asset galleries) was brought up too but no idea where that'll go

lots of changes/ideas being thrown around lately so we'll see what comes of it

[chrome forum]

I think all of these are really good concept ideas, and they fit super super well with the sprite designs! I think maybe a few minor wording tweaks to help with flow would help, but generally pretty good!

[tardy thorn]

does it?

OH SHIT IT DOES

[boreal prairie]

Chargey 4.16

Its feathers are coated in a thin layer of ash. It flaps around wildly when frightened, kicking up a cloud of smoke.
Charotto 4.17
With its tail feathers, POKENAME fans warm embers over the eggs in its nest. When a predator tries to steal its eggs, POKENAME whips up a smokescreen, and slashes wildly with its talons.
Chareot 4.18
POKENAME was once mistaken to be a chubby MOLTRES. By trailing dark clouds of smoke behind it as it flies, POKENAME are used by the military to communicate coded messages across long distances.

(This Char- is a Charmander)

Theme from original entries smokescreen, skittishness, and sand-attack

Chargey 5.16

Its small body can hardly contain the rage the burns within. It spouts jets of fires with every chirp.
Charotto 5.17
POKENAME marks its territory by burning a fireline that can only be seen from the sky. A fool who steps across a mysterious trail of ash is likely to face death from above.
Chareot 5.18
Faster than sound, it blazes across the sky as a blue-white ball of flame. By the time its shrill cry is heard, POKENAME's prey has already been skewered by deadly talons.

(This Char is Charmeleon)
Themes from original entries: Aggressiveness, territorial

Chargey 6.16

It prefers to fly high above the ground where the air is cold and thin. It is said if POKENAME spends too much time on the ground, its feathers might burst into flame.

Charotto 6.17

Its eyes are 4x more precise than a telescope. From miles above, it reigns down super-hot motes of fire.

Chargeot 6.18

It generates enough heat and air to safely insulate its trainer even at the edge of space. From far below, you might mistake POKENAME for a legendary Pokémon.

(This Char is a Charizard)

Themes from original entries, high flying and long distance vision.

[stuck shoal]

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"||POKENAME uses its stored glucose as fuel to raise its power dramatically. The sugars binding its body together are theorized to taste extraordinary, if only researchers could figure out how to extract some without being vaporized by the raw energy."||

[boreal prairie]

Okay I'll leave just the Char- half for tonight then Pid- half tomorrow

[candid gust]

Would be good to have dex events /hj /lh

[chrome forum]

Very minor on this one, I would change usually do in a to instead say usually do so in a

[stuck shoal]

"POKENAME's feathers..." would probably be better than "it's feathers"
unsure about the third entry there, there's nothing technically wrong to me but it feels off

[halcyon condor]

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POKENAME's cannons sway hypnotically in the water, drawing the attention of curious Pokémon swimming by. When they get close enough, it blasts its unsuspecting prey with powerful beams of water.

Is this something

[stuck shoal]

the pronouns change from plural to singular, might be good to try to avoid that for clarity
also is the first sentence saying they fight each other or other Pokemon species? a bit confused on that

[fair thicket]

flips between singular and plural

"it flies" vs "POKENAME are"

[stuck shoal]

man it is hard to see singular and plural when we use "POKENAME" sobs

[fair thicket]

eyes on the verbs 😌

[nocturne shadow]

Oh, I see now. I'll keep that in mind.

[fair thicket]

also that pokemon species are both singular and plural

"magikarp evolve by throwing themselves over waterfalls. i chucked my magikarp up a waterfall and it didn't work. what gives?"

for example

[final wagon]

I'd remove the 4x from (Charizard) Charotto, and just say they're more precise than a telescope; the 4x seems a bit random and arbitrary. Also rain, not reign (reign is as in to rule; rain as in conveying someting is falling in large quantities.

Its eyes are more powerful and precise than even the strongest of telescopes. From miles above, it rains down super-heated motes of fire

[stuck shoal]

"POKENAME tend to fight their own species in one-on-one shootouts, the loser's territory going to the victor. They frequently feud with Octillery."

an idea? I use they/them with species but if you want to refer to an individual I can make an edit