There’s no list it’s mostly intuition
#showdown-general
undone surge
whether it gets fucked by vcreate or not
halcyon fractal
Weaknesses to ground, rock, fighting (typically physical types) makes it a SpDef typing
Weaknesses to fire, water, grass, electric (typically special types) makes it a PDef typing.
Teambuilding is more about finding a synergystic core of 2-3 pokemon and then supporting them with the rest of your team slots.
For example in gen 7 I used a Mega Ala + Tapu Lele core HO team, and I supported it with your usual offenders like Lando-T to clear out things like Chansey or Blissey that were hard to get through and Garchomp as my Z-move mon to threaten rocks and keep them there.
deft oasis
Weaknesses to ground, rock, fighting (typically physical types) makes it a SpDef...
Unfortunately I think V-Create is common enough in IF Dex that a Phys wall being weak to Fire isn't going to cut it unless you specifically have other ways to check it, or you have Rain up
halcyon fractal
Unfortunately I think V-Create is common enough in IF Dex that a Phys wall being...
Yeah, IF has a few different stipulations because they decided to give things like spectral thief and vcreate to various mons which are threats you normally only care about in ubers
zinc hollow
anyone if ou¿
urban nebula
Which one of my favorite pokemon are the best competitive wise.
(So that I can fuse it)
(No starters or legendary)
cloud coyote
my least favourite word in pokemon. "best"
there is no overall "best" single pokemon. especially in competitive. everything depends on what you need in your team, what role they will fulfill, what their coverage is, what your team archetype is etc etc.
cloud coyote
for example talonflame can work great with a tailwind team, based on your roster. But it would be terrible in a trick-room team
While mamoswine is the exact opposite. can work great in a trick room team, but would be wasted potential on a tailwind team
urban nebula
Ok thanks
urban nebula
Ok
spring lagoon
i noticed it takes less time for if showdown to load now
halcyon fractal
Seen success out of some slowbro tanks and aegislash setup stoppers (since aegislash/duoblade has access to spectral thief)
unborn pine
Ttar
Metagross
Umbreon
Steelix
Chandelirr
i don't think i have anything that matches the meta lol
i don't really like dragonute gen 1 just doesn't have any dragon types
Actually i like dragonair more
toxapex
and gliscor
odd kiln
for example talonflame can work great with a tailwind team, based on your roster...
tailwind teams dont exist though
and mamo is too fast for tr
cloud coyote
"insert old man swinging his fist" - Back in my day of vgc, the general rule of thumb was < 85 speed stat is more than good enough for TR teams if you go negative nature. As the general other archetype was/is setup into sweep or walling. with at least mid to high speed BST.
and then mamoswine fit in nicely, being an amazing wallbreaker which could play both normal or TR teams (even seeing a fair amount of play in OU), with access to a stab prio ice (you can easilly time this with trick room end, for another turn of going first to take out sweepers you didnt ohko with earthquake), and stab earthquake.
- thick fat is just kinda nice.
odd kiln
min speed only hits 148 while things like 0 spe with base 50 hit 136
mamo is just suited as a wallbreaker on normal teams
hallow kite
mamo is just suited as a wallbreaker on normal teams
Mamo too slow for that now funny enough
At least a lot of mamo fusions are
Stallbreaker potential
halcyon fractal
"insert old man swinging his fist" - Back in my day of vgc, the general rule of ...
That's how I feel looking at Gen 9 meta where 110 is kinda slow and 120 doesn't hit hard enough
I was so sad when Reshiram got demoted to just a tailwind setter
frozen elk
there is no overall "best" single pokemon. especially in competitive. everything...
the best single pokemon is zacian or ultra necrozma
odd kiln
zacian fell off and unecro is not the best mon
opal fiber
The best single pokemon is Eternamax Eternatus
(because it's the only pokemon who's BST surpasses 1100+) 
odd kiln
also its invincible on one defensive side
hallow kite
That's how I feel looking at Gen 9 meta where 110 is kinda slow and 120 doesn't ...
120 hits just fine
what matters way more is the actual moves you're clicking
a 10 point stat difference is about a 1.8% difference in terms of actual damage
about 3.7%'s worth if it's a choice mon
not entirely useless margins but not nearly enough that like 120 is below average but 130 is great
move bp is a different story though
a 10 point difference in move bp on a choice mon is an extra 12% of hp damage roughly speaking
which is massive
opal juniper
i don't think i have anything that matches the meta lol
i don't really like drag...
My teams are.
Er.
Unorthodox
supple loom
So Mankey's Paw, huh
opal fiber
Its a good thing meloetta is my favorite mythical
So thats a top tier fast physical attacker secured 
supple loom
All I'm gonna say is
They may have removed the combination of No Guard + Mankey's Paw, but a rose by any other name is still "a Sleep move that can't miss on a setup attacker with a Speed stat of 112"
So Lycanroc-Midnight/Meloetta probably ain't falling off anytime soon lmao
Also, like,
I guess this also exists
warped veldt
They did that, it's called Machamp/Gengar with 100% accurate Hypnosis and STAB Focus Blasts.
supple loom
Ehh... I like where you're going with that, but Machamp's stats don't mesh so well with Gengar's. Either way you have to make a lot of compromises.
warped veldt
Well, you have good mixed attacking stats and Ghost/Fighting is a great attacking type.
supple loom
True.
I'm just not fully convinced these stats can cut it in such a powercrept meta.
It would at the very least need some team support.
odd kiln
mixed atk stats here is just the worst of both worlds
it has focus blast so no reason to use physical
supple loom
^
Being a mixed attacker doesn't usually mean you run a mixed attacking set, only Gen 1 things and Gen 4 Infernape have really pulled that off as far as I can remember. It just means you have flexibility with which way you lean. Modern day you really wanna pick one and stick with it, and this pretty much just means you're mediocre physically and mediocre specially.
warped veldt
Well, there is Dynamic Punch for being annoying 
supple loom
To give you an idea: these mixed attacking stats are only slightly better than those of base Octillery.
hallow kite
I'm just not fully convinced these stats can cut it in such a powercrept meta.
nasty plot/hypnosis/focus blast/shadow ball is alright on sticky webs
supple loom
Well, there is Dynamic Punch for being annoying <:VyrnDum:799365649381195816>
I respect it, but I find it's better served on something faster. Machamp/Crobat hits a decent 105 Speed and 103 Attack isn't TERRIBLE if all you're planning to do is spread status and be annoying.
hallow kite
machamp/crobat doesn't do anything though
supple loom
DynamicPunch is my favorite move though so you've already got points with me 
odd kiln
both of these are outclassed by lycanettap cause it has sd
supple loom
^
Yeah no like. Losing Mankey's Paw didn't destroy its viability, it's still probably the best No Guarder available
warped veldt
Meloetta-P is so strapped as the only good Fighting type 
hallow kite
not really
warped veldt
Yeah, I know there's other mons
Like
Breloom?
Y'know what, I actually don't know.
supple loom
Ehh. Without Spore, Breloom's kind of...been hitting every branch on the way down the tiering tree.
odd kiln
brelooms p mid
supple loom
hallow kite
What, not breloom
odd kiln
Meloetta-P is so strapped as the only good Fighting type <:kot:61363832099556556...
id agree
supple loom
Spore was the only thing keeping Breloom relevant, and it's even less so here where Sleep moves can be on so much more stuff.
hallow kite
Hawlucha flying gem is a perfectly good HO mon
supple loom
It DOES still have a niche as the highest Attack stat among mons with Technician, though it's tied with Scizor for that.
hallow kite
bewear/doublade worked pretty well on the teams I saw it on
niche special attacking lucario sets etc etc
hallow kite
Hawlucha flying gem is a perfectly good HO mon
this one in particular is quite real
odd kiln
bewear doublade aint fighting
odd kiln
you cant count a mon as a type if it never fuses to become that type
hallow kite
I guess but the prompt was like
fighting type pokemon good for fusions
not fighting type fusions
it's w/e though
odd kiln
boring gif where are the anime boys and girls kissing
supple loom
odd kiln
Yowza!
supple loom
i was unsure of my target audience 
warped veldt
boring gif where are the anime boys and girls kissing
Okay, cut to Slowlix and Jigrowth kissing.
unborn pine
Okay, cut to Slowlix and Jigrowth kissing.
What about toxitar and clefsteel
warped veldt
What about toxitar and clefsteel
Yeah that's the perfect butch lesbian (Clefsteel) femme lesbian (Toxitar) pair
urban nebula
What does Hidden Powet (Any Type) Do?
Does this make the pokemon inmune or does it involved with the move hidden power?
odd kiln
Either Sheer Force or Torrent
sf for sure
halcyon fractal
Either Sheer Force or Torrent
Sf is a 1.3x boost, torrent is a 1.33x boost.
Sf boosts everything but cuts side effects, including life orb for some reason.
Torrent boosts only water moves and only activates at 1/4th hp or something that means you're running sash
Sf is widely agreed to be better
Torrent, overgrowth, and blaze are p much "no ability" in 99% of situations in any format I'm aware of
warped veldt
Someone's cat got on the PC.
halcyon fractal
a 10 point stat difference is about a 1.8% difference in terms of actual damage
...
I had no idea base stats were of such little influence on a mon's performance (at least for attacking); that means a difference of 50 base attack is only like a 9% difference in damage output. Here I was thinking the scaling was linear.
river herald
Sorry, close it was my pocket
hallow kite
I had no idea base stats were of such little influence on a mon's performance (a...
On a non choices mon yeah
Using life orb the difference is about 14%
halcyon fractal
If you don't mind me asking, it seems like defensive stats are important - do they have a significant impact or is it more of a question of who gets spore and leech seed and who doesn't?
hallow kite
Defensive stats are pretty important but your typing is far more important
halcyon fractal
I've noticed that this metagame values certain types differently, like being a steel type is almost bad since vcreate is such a menace
So like flying steel isn't quite the menace it normally is
hallow kite
No being a steel type is great
You just need a dedicated answer to fire types
For v create and sun in general
rough palm
So got into the showdown server stuff today.. really fun would love to play with more people sometime 
sturdy cradle
So got into the showdown server stuff today.. really fun would love to play with...
we could stand to make more accessible Randbat tours
rough palm
Just played a whole bunch of IF showdown with a cool person, was a blast 
glad I got into it~
rough palm
Anyone want to showdown sometimes I'm always open! Probably more up for rando battles than anything else, unless you can stand the agonizing wait of me trying to put a team together 😂
supple loom
Chat, is this cooking
My current view on it is "amazing bulk and reliable recovery with the capacity to set up, but probably a subpar defensive typing and super status-prone"
rough palm
Most likely Slowbro for tankiness, but could be wrong lol
odd kiln
slowbro
hallow kite
Chat, is this cooking
not terrible but as far as fat cm goes there are better users
suicune/gliscor is nice beause it's basically cm suicune except with recovery, immunity to status and poison heal
(and can run uturn if you feel like cm/scald/roost is enough)
slowlix doesn't have status immunity and isn't water/flying but has way bulk and a better typing for setting up cm
- regenerator
Clefcune has even less bulky than suicune/gliscor but water/fairy is a silly typing
past adder
anyone wanna play ag national dex
odd kiln
i can
past adder
alr
urban nebula
Ok Boomer
cyan latch
heyy pplz
rough palm
anyone tryna run some random battles IF lemme know 🙂
past adder
anyone tryna run some random battles IF lemme know 🙂
in like 10-15 mins?
rough palm
in like 10-15 mins?
Sounds good, just challenge me when you're in there! Names the same minus the 96
verbal cedar
hey
is there any gamemode where theres no teir restrcictions but its still gen 7ish
....
im stupid
i thought ag was a teir
no doubles ag tho, shame
unborn pine
I thought there was doubles ag
radiant rivet
how does one play around paraflinch strats?
Seems inherently lucky
unborn pine
be fast or taunt or electric type/ground or lum berry
undone surge
how does one play around paraflinch strats?
Seems inherently lucky
it really is just rng based and really its easy to counter with a decent defensive mon or just a mon thats just faster
radiant rivet
it really is just rng based and really its easy to counter with a decent defensi...
Dont defensive mons risk being flinch spammed 10 turns in a row?
Or should these walls use lefties and (Heal move of choice) to pp stall the paraflincher?
hallow kite
Dont defensive mons risk being flinch spammed 10 turns in a row?
Or should these...
Yeah but that’s not going to happen
Those chances are extraordinarily low and get undone immediately by lefties or recovery
radiant rivet
I mean you still have to threaten them back, dont you?
getting flinched 3 times and being forced to recover only for the cycle to repeat doesnt seem to uncommon
hallow kite
you hit them in between this
radiant rivet
dont you risk your wall being to low to handle other threats then?
undone surge
dont you risk your wall being to low to handle other threats then?
no not really?
realistically at max your getting paraflinched for 3 turns max, 4 if their lucky, 8 max if their serene grace and is lucky
rng related strategies just suck a lot
cause its rng related
in theory you could just idk give every mon quickclaw and never invest in speed because thoeretically you could just proc quick claw everytime 🤷♂️ or give every fast mon kings rock cause it can just flinch and autowin and beat every check
in both metas in fusions trying to pull smth like this is just stupid and horrid
not to say it already isnt shit in vanilla
hallow kite
in theory you could just idk give every mon quickclaw and never invest in speed ...
kings rock is a terrible example because it gets banned for this very reason
cloyster can legitimately do this
but the overall point makes sense
undone surge
no shit the mon with the ability to get
+2 atk and speed
with skill link
wouldnt abuse this
hallow kite
well yeah but like
you said "in theory we could do [something that happened in practice]"
undone surge
its not even broken its just banned cause its uncompetitive
its still bad
its just uncompetitive and thus banned
hallow kite
its still bad
I mean it wasn’t that bad
The reason why it was banned was because it was a strategy that was showing up in legitimate tournaments
It was a real problem lol
undone surge
10% chance to do something everytime you attack is shit
it was a real problem yes, but it was still dogshit
it was just the nature of rng itself, which is also why evasion is banned 🤷♂️
evasion has a chance of being absoultely useless or doing something good, its just that evasion has a better effect if it does work
rough palm
Lil late to the party, but yea RNG strats can be as OP or as dogshit as the game decides for the day, viable strats but you're basically running a Gamba build lol
=]
halcyon fractal
10% chance to do something everytime you attack is shit
I know it isn't singles, but VGC saw a person bring Stench Gloom with bullet seed for like a 49% chance to flinch
(it also used a gen 8 or 9 item called like loaded dice or smth)
Shaymin Sky is known for high speed serene grace airslash cheese
stone edge is used
(which is honest to god just as much of a gamba strat)
Hax strats are more of a ladder strategy, since over a large number of matches, any strat over 50% effective will make you climb
But they're definitely worse in tournaments since the variance is way higher
unborn pine
Hypothetically, if swoobat were added and it's simple sets would be too overbearing, would Simple or Swoobat be banned? Because Bibarel isn't too powerful with simple
tiny wadi
how to battle players online
warped veldt
radiant rivet
what is the likelyhood that a or more mons from IF gen 7 AG joins IF Gen 7 Ou, similar to how Shuckle, Alakazam and Aegislash did.
radiant rivet
makes sense, what are the chances something gets bannend?
odd kiln
havent seen anything thats broken enough to get suspected but the closest would be vcreate or maybe qd
hallow kite
smeargle has a possibility
there's probably a lot of silly sets you could make with it
not necessarily broken ones but shit that's annoying
some incredibly obnoxious sticky web set comes to mind
hallow kite
mold webs
that works but you could achieve that with non-smeargle most likely
Smearoc (Smeargle) @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
Fusion: Lycanroc-Midnight
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sing
- Sticky Web
- Taunt
- Entrainment
this is much funnier
put something to sleep and setup those webs
the reason why you would not use jumpluff/galvantula over this is because sing ignores grass type/you have taunt/you can mess up magic bounce
wait hold on
Ability: Compound Eyes
Fusion: Galvantula
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Lovely Kiss
- Sticky Web
- Taunt
- Entrainment```slightly better set
odd kiln
my enemy when i pull out the regitu
spring lagoon
lernean should work with super fang natures madness ruinatnion and moves like that
it does on the insurgance showdown
even in custom game
dragon rage and those kinds of moves too
spring lagoon
@fast elm uh this seems important
one appears for each mon
so uh
it gets pretty insane if 23 pokemon are supposed to be burned by this
pure breach
It appears for Pokemon that haven’t been on the field yet
Hopefully it still burnt them tho?
pure breach
dragon rage and those kinds of moves too
From the Lernean wiki
Would be worth checking it in-game, as the official client for Insurgence is also known to have bugs and the like
pure breach
I’ve someone trying to check this in-game, so far Dragon Breath does not trigger Lernean
Super fang also does not trigger Lernean
unborn pine
that works but you could achieve that with non-smeargle most likely
Smearoc (Sme...
Wait so you click entrainment on an mbouncer to get bounce yourself ?
spring lagoon
Hopefully it still burnt them tho?
got a wall of errors when i had a team of 24 but yes
pure breach
figured
the issue is that the client doesn't know the name of the pokemon that haven't been sent out yet, it's a client-side issue, I won't be able to fix it for a little bit unfortunately
noble dirge
I wonder how jank fusion showdown is
radiant rivet
its pretty good all things considered
like yeah you have stuff like quiverdance + magic guard but it honestly is totally managable
feral beacon
i haven't checked in on the game in a while... is the playerbase still half stall by volume
odd kiln
it was never half stall
radiant rivet
i haven't checked in on the game in a while... is the playerbase still half stal...
what do you define as stall?
rough palm
I wonder how jank fusion showdown is
Fusion showdown is Superrr fun! Just got into it myself n have loved tryna make teams, or even just random battles! Sure there's people who take it too seriously/are assholes about things, but that's just Showdown in general lol
feral beacon
what do you define as stall?
uhh, a team that's entirely Unaware Eviolite Clefable/Dusclops Toxic Scald etc. and similar mon?
odd kiln
it was never half stall
sick lava
What format should me and my friends use to battle with no move or pokemon restrictions on pokeathalon
odd kiln
custom game
terse sleet
umm hey if i wanted to do a ffa with like insurgences mega what would the code be for it?
undone surge
uhh, a team that's entirely Unaware Eviolite Clefable/Dusclops Toxic Scald etc. ...
bold of you to expect the general casual playerbase to run stall
if i had to say only like 4-6 people actually run stall properly
sick lava
Why cant i set my team to custom for the format when creating a team
warped veldt
I got weather'd live on camera.
I hate permaweather 
I really thought something could tank a Water Spout, I was so so so so wrong.
radiant rivet
Oh man I was so stupid against that team, I predict a switch and used Parting shot to drop the offenses of the Incoming Mon, now what did it I switch into?
My 4x water resist I particulary put on the team to deal with sun/rain teams?
Nah my unaware spd wall at 70 %.
I still hate myself for that.
undone surge
Why cant i set my team to custom for the format when creating a team
Because it isnt a format
warped veldt
I really don't know how to build against weather since the the sweeper variety is so high.
Wasn't really expecting a Blastoise/Jolteon, of all things...
radiant rivet
I really don't know how to build against weather since the the sweeper variety i...
Water dragon is a good start,
but honestly looking at your replay it seem more like your team just struggled against the heavy spam volt-turn there
since it meant you were always on the back foot
warped veldt
I was trying to set rocks, but it was kinda scary with the constant threat of 4x Electric weakness
spooky
radiant rivet
yep, sometimes one of your mons just has a bad match up into the opponets team, like Jiragrowth has into most sun teams
warped veldt
Full SpDef
radiant rivet
Yeah that would mean Blasttoise was specz
Knock off spam galore
Scald, Knock, Pivot, you never have enough of these 3 moves on your team.
Also recovery
radiant rivet
I got weather'd live on camera.
going back to that,
one more play you could have made after Jiragrowth took 45% was to switch it out, sack something less valuable, like Umbreon and then Switch Jiragrowth back in and threaten a knock.
warped veldt
I feel like I need to get better at the whole competitive gamer thing of identifying threats and managing solutions.
Something something Pinkacross videos
hallow kite
I really don't know how to build against weather since the the sweeper variety i...
Fat waters
Kyurem/suicune or Sliggoo/Toxapex were ones I liked
unborn pine
Why sliggoo and not goodra
radiant rivet
eviolite
undone surge
what no hdb does
hallow kite
what no hdb does
dexou has no hdb rip
hallow kite
Why sliggoo and not goodra
eviolite and regenerator + better all around bulk allows you to switch into rain/fire attackers on both the physical and special spectrum
and you have the bulk to take their other stabs
like getting 3hko'd by entei/meloetta-p close combat
warped veldt
Damn that's bulky
unborn pine
eviolite and regenerator + better all around bulk allows you to switch into rain...
Guess there's another Toxapex fusion I gotta sprite then 
And then I can maybe redeem my terrible Goodra/Toxapex sprite
undone surge
like getting 3hko'd by entei/meloetta-p close combat
knock off
doesnt melo-p run knock
lol
hallow kite
doesnt melo-p run knock
They do but they’re not going to stay in if they click CC/V create
And risk dying to scald
hallow kite
And risk dying to scald
^
hallow kite
get a decent knock absorber
undone surge
than your also just risking your knock absorber to vcreate though
well
depends on what the knock absorber is
it could also just click uturn on the switch for momentum
hallow kite
it cant switch in
wait hold on I’m doing damage calcs and entei/melon doesn’t 2HKO even without eviolite
Which seems fucked up
undone surge
does it not?
hallow kite
does it not?
252 Atk Entei Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 128+ Def Sliggoo: 133-157 (40.5 - 47.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
I might have fucked something up in this calc but I'm double-checking and it just eats it lmao
sliapex just goated ig
undone surge
252 Atk Choice Band Entei Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Abomasnow: 180-213 (54.8 - 64.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
this is my calc
its the correct fusion it just changes to abomasnow for the head automatically after fusion idk why
lemme redo it
idk why its like this
252 Atk Choice Band Entei Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Sliggoo: 120-142 (36.5 - 43.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
ok fixed
252 Atk Choice Band Entei Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sliggoo: 180-213 (54.8 - 64.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Entei Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Sliggoo: 120-142 (36.5 - 43.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
i mean at least if it has eviolite its still a 3hko even after sr at full health
hallow kite
ah okay that has choice band
honestly that's like, manageable
sliapex's main goal is to stop them from clicking v-create so if you have a secondary fighting check you're doing alright
undone surge
not choice band is ass
cause ur clicking vcreate most of the time
uturn for pivoting, knock to remove items and cc to hit water resists
i mean
if its sd which u shouldnt run
+2 252 Atk Entei Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Sliggoo: 160-190 (48.7 - 57.9%) -- 96.9% chance to 2HKO
and ofc this is with evio if its knocked its fucked
undone surge
this is why i dont like eviolite mons most of the time
if they get knocked ur just goobed
which is decently easy to do this since u basically have 2 movepools in one mon
warped veldt
It's Gen 1, everyone has every move
Suicune/Gliscor probably tanks it better since you resist both STABs and Poison Heal is Poison Heal
undone surge
probably
warped veldt
yeag
undone surge
252 Atk Choice Band Entei V-create vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Suicune in Sun: 200-236 (51.8 - 61.1%) -- 54.7% chance to 2HKO after Poison Heal
warped veldt
Yeah, Sun is a completely different matter....
In short: just kill Enetta first please god it's gonna destroy my entire team
undone surge
u need to run another weather to actually wall it if its sun
speedcreeping it to be faster after -1 isnt worth it
warped veldt
I know it's Infinite Fusion, but this still feels way too strong.
Guess if you're running rain, you can build your weather setter to counter Enetta.
undone surge
not rly
warped veldt
:(
undone surge
your forced to run politoed
meaning u need to have it fused smth that wont die to knock or cc or uturn
and it needs recovery to reliably switch
warped veldt
I hate permaweather
unborn pine
They do but they’re not going to stay in if they click CC/V create
If you use it as a switch in there is a chance the opponent reads and clicks knock
i love clicking knock off :) click click
warped veldt
I love clicking buttons
hallow kite
if its sd which u shouldnt run
does either entei or melop have sd?
undone surge
does either entei or melop have sd?
idk
warped veldt
Entei has SD.
undone surge
ik melo gets sd in vanilla
hallow kite
nope
hallow kite
at least in IF, neither have swords dance
hallow kite
if they get knocked ur just goobed
you gotta play around the knock
(or make a sticky hold muk fusion)
undone surge
you gotta play around the knock
(or make a sticky hold muk fusion)
what would be
the other mon
i mean
realistically
what you should do
is just
get an actual good bulky water that still doesnt get fucked by vcreate
the main issue with sliggoo was
if it gets knocked
its goobed
you dont have the same problem if u have like
clefcune
or smth
hallow kite
clefcune
the problem with clefcune is that
you don't switch into v-create in sun
252 Atk Choice Band Entei V-create vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Clefable in Sun: 227-267 (57.3 - 67.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
undone surge
how much does it do
than
also just use an actual high stat dragon type if u wanna do that
hallow kite
than
252 Atk Choice Band Entei V-create vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Sliggoo in Sun: 91-108 (34.3 - 40.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
hallow kite
~~also just use an actual high stat dragon type if u wanna do that~~
kyurem/suicune is pretty good but it doesn't have nearly as much special bulk as sliapex so you risk losing to special type sun/rain mons
I think kyucune is slightly better but sliapex is livable
undone surge
i mean
if it absorbs vcreate
it runs pdef
it aint tanking the special nukers
i guess a vanilla comparison would be like
if it absorbs banded hoopa-u hyperspace hole
it runs pdef
it aint tanking np darkrai
deft oasis
during the weather suspect test I actually went as far as to run Sap Sipper Goodra/Toxapex to blanket check most Sun attackers due to its quad Fire resist and Grass immunity
undone surge
sap sipper is crazy over regen
hallow kite
well yeah but it's also good
hallow kite
how does necrozma-ultra work in fusions
does it add the stat boosts or just create a new average
odd kiln
new average
radiant rivet
what happenend to the triple fusions?
I can get the 3 headed bird being to weak to stealth rock to be viable, but the rest?
warped veldt
They're still there, you just need to search them.
radiant rivet
Rather, why do I need to search them?
What makes them competetivly undesirable?
warped veldt
Well....
radiant rivet
or is it simply oppurtunity cost
warped veldt
All of their stats are very mediocre.
The best one was Swamptiliken with Unburden and a wide movepool, but it doesn't have the stats to bypass walls.
And Zapmolticuno which has good stats and Serene Grace, but.... rocks.
warped veldt
Fighting type moves.
warped veldt
Averages make all of their stats average, who would've thought.
radiant rivet
Volt, Scal and V-Create*
oh
i thought It would take the best of the individual ones for 3 fusions
warped veldt
Also triple fusions don't have access to Expert Moves, so no V-Create.
radiant rivet
sad
odd kiln
The regi?
no setup, no abil, very little utility, bad defensive typing
no recovery either
thorn wyvern
Ah, okay.
lost galleon
The kanto starters triple fusion was usable when you could give it chlorophyll in permasun, but it's pretty mid without that.
unborn pine
blastoise kinda just drags it down outside of giving it ice beam i guess
cuz water stab in sun is lame
warped veldt
Just had one of the worst-feeling losses ever. I got read like a book and scrambled like an omelette.
Moltres/Magnezone has a Jigrowth hard counter, I switched to my Water/Ground to tank and it had HP Grass.
deft oasis
Just had one of the worst-feeling losses ever. I got read like a book and scramb...
That was me actually, don't dwell too much upon it: I just happened to make some predictions that went right
Magnezone/Chandelure would've been better prior to Magnezone's type swap, but either way the Magnet Puller was a relatively new addition to my team that I needed to take out key Steel types
warped veldt
Oh no! The person I'm talking about!
I did see the 1400 Elo score and went "Yeah I got smoked by a pro gamer"
deft oasis
I wouldn't even have that Magnet Pull mon on my team today if I hadn't just suffered a string of humiliating losses over the last two days haha
warped veldt
Yeah that tends to do things to a team
Slowphan was a recent addition to mine, I had a Registeel/Xatu for hazard control but it's so so so so passive
I want more offensive presence in my team, but I also need hazard control.
Where my Gholdengo
deft oasis
I won't really say which one is better since there's a lot of ways to argue whether spinning is better than defog, but I do think that being passive isn't a bad thing as long as it's supporting your team well enough
it doesn't need to be doing much damage to your opponent if it can wall, remove hazards, and pivot
it also helps that Regitu has a ton of free entry points due to its typing and MBounce
rough palm
Regardless, you both are better then me all my teams are basically playthrough teams with comp strats thought of after 😂 Randbats are a lil more up my alley loll
deft oasis
On the contrary I'm pretty bad at randbats 😂
rough rapids
is perm weather still a thing ???
hallow kite
yea
radiant rivet
its kinda neat
vital sand
How do you register for the event tho
hexed umbra
With 2 new pokemon being added soon-ish, let's see what signature abilities aren't in the game yet
(Shadow Shield/Full Metal Body arent going be legal lol)
Beast Boost - varies wildly depending on the Ultra Beast, hype though
Water Bubble - We don't need something to outdamage V-Create
Corrosion - Salazzle is very frail but poisoning regen steels is very nice, though it loses to poison heal mons
Tough Claws - Barbaracle with no Shell Smash lol
Toxic Boost - worse guts, why did Game Freak make this
Dry Skin - don't fight sun
Victory Star - ability is nice and all, but it's on a mon with V-Create...
Zen Mode - lol
Defeatist - LOL
Mega Launcher - might be interesting
Stakeout - on Gumshoos
Schooling - how would this work?
Stamina - nice ability, but Mudadale doesn't bring much in terms of movepool apart from rocks
odd kiln
schooling would likely make it fuse with wishiwashischool
hexed umbra
Triage - PLEASE NO
Queenly Magesty - dazzling, but on a marginally better mon? Still bad though
Emergency Exit - might be funny on weather teams? Idk
RKS System - Silvally isn't winning the vote
Comatose - Komala sucks
Berserk- Drampa is very slow, but bulky enough that it isn't easy to one shot
The Terrain Surges - Every Tapu is going to be really good
Soul-Heart - Magearna is going to be insane, with or without this ability
There's probably a couple I missed, I don't think we have a bulletproof mon yet
odd kiln
drampa isnt bulky at all
hexed umbra
78/85/91 isn't bad for an offensive mon
vital sand
@ruby current how do you register for the tourneys?
odd kiln
it is when ur slow af
ruby current
<@181333962797350912> how do you register for the tourneys?
it's a lobby tourney, you show up at the time and click join
vital sand
ouh
hexed umbra
it is when ur slow af
It's still going to be difficult to one shot, then it threatens +1
odd kiln
78/85/91 is really easy to one shot
thin schooner
Indeed
silver summit
me too
odd kiln
hop on if ndou then
if doubles is gonna be insane btw bc barely anybody has played it so very few tier fixes
vital sand
if doubles is gonna be insane btw bc barely anybody has played it so very few ti...
I actually dont know the meta of IF showdown
I remember leaving this space because of sylvern
I see now Boomburst is banned so i guess a lot of people complaining about pixilate boomburst huh
@cyan latch come on
I need your help for singles
zenith badger
I've never tried IF showdown, or just non-VGC comp, so I don't know if I should try entering the tournament
odd kiln
you got nothing to lose
odd kiln
@ruby current for big boss can the grunts be of the evo line of either head or body of the boss
ruby current
<@181333962797350912> for big boss can the grunts be of the evo line of either h...
You have to pick 1 part of the Pokémon to be the boss
odd kiln
oh ok
nimble marsh
How can I battle someone?
The game has like a multiplayer pvp?
Sorry I just installed fusion and I want to know how can I battle my gf
odd kiln
this is for the showdown client online if ur talking about the ingame battling system youd probably ask uh https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1056705898669682718 idk
nimble marsh
So showdown is like another game?
odd kiln
its a battle emulator of this game
vital sand
curious question, anyone plays doubles?
odd kiln
nop
vast basin
lool
vast basin
If the doubles tour got cancelled because no one plays it except me I'll be mald...
so youre in advantage XD
tribal trellis
its just nobody will know what theyre doing
I remember doing if doubles
People did not know what they are doing
odd kiln
wow return of skippr
tribal trellis
But in general all there was is poa poa poa
Ladder kinda died
Its just jas spamming me with notif
Doubles has perma weather now as well though right?
minor saddle
Anyone online for If ou singles?
odd kiln
think so
minor saddle
Anyone online for If ou singles?
I'm testing out team building (I have never played competitive)
odd kiln
i am
tribal trellis
Play this guy ^
minor saddle
You want to challenge me or me challenge you
tribal trellis
And if u lose dw
odd kiln
ill challenge
calm canyon
how do we enter the tournaments?
odd kiln
the tournaments will start the day of and you just join it in the lobby
vital sand
its just nobody will know what theyre doing
ok so pls join so i can win
vital sand
so youre in advantage XD
Anyone up for doubles hmu
I'll be on around 1200-2100 UTC +7
no im not self promoting wym
tribal trellis
~~no im not self promoting wym~~
what
vital sand
what
tribal trellis
what are u promoting exactly
vital sand
exactly
tropic path
For the event tournament, do you need to sign up beforehand or just be online in time?
tribal trellis
just be online
tropic path
Ok, thanks
whole karma
Is the tournament with non if mons or not?
tribal trellis
wdym
vital sand
Is the tournament with non if mons or not?
Its IF dex mons
whole karma
Its IF dex mons
Ok
tribal trellis
well u can still use non fused mons though
vital sand
well u can still use non fused mons though
Ye
That being said, can I have multiple teams?
vital sand
like can u enter the tourney with more then 1?
yea
Wait hold on is the tourney like bo1 or a ladder system?
tribal trellis
tours on showdown allow more then 1 team
If the hoster wants he can choose not to allow it and eouble check but i think they would say that
also it's like bo1 yea
vital sand
tribal trellis
<:Despair:850468339955924993>
It that on doubles as well?
vital sand
It that on doubles as well?
dunno hold on
Nope
For doubles its completely valid
But I already have another team for doubles
tribal trellis
But I already have another team for doubles
You'd need like atleast 8
vital sand
You'd need like atleast 8 <:heehee:945800365457149992>
i was planning to make more up until you say Bo1
tribal trellis
Well even if its bo3 u arent goona change team lmao
Only inbetween matches
Which doesnt matter for bo1 or bo3
vital sand
Thats how it works? 
hexed umbra
Do you think Malamar or Lurantis would be strong enough to get Contrary banned/suspected?
tribal trellis
Do you think Malamar or Lurantis would be strong enough to get Contrary banned/s...
Where
Ladder
?
hexed umbra
I'm saying if they win the poll and get added, they aren't in the game yet
hexed umbra
Yes, whats the deal with contrary in natdex?
Nvm Serperior has it its definitely banned there
vital sand
Malamr lurantis prob 2bad
Hear me out
Grass/steel offensive contrary
deft oasis
I don't think Malamar and Lurantis are banworthy should they ever be added since their stats are still bad, but I can definitely see Lurantis/Entei with a Leaf Storm/Overheat/V-Create/Sub set being somewhat annoying for certain teams to deal with
urban nebula
Which of these Aegislash Fusions have better stats and typing?
Sorry if its hard to choose
tribal trellis
what are all of these
opal fiber
Azumarill
Slowking
Spiritomb
Hawlucha
tribal trellis
overall stats and typing probably the hawlucha one
idk if i would call it the actual best one though depends on what u are looking for
vital sand
wouldnt the spiritomb one have better stats because it'll be focused on defense more?
Stance change is a blessing and a curse
vital sand
Yea but that defensive stats would be used more efficiently when attacking
opal fiber
You dont really need to care about attack and speed stats if your main goal is being tanky
Since aegislash wants to go last so it gets hit while in its defensive form
tribal trellis
listen i just answered the question directly, u can also use aegislash without stance change and u can also care about speed
it all depends
urban nebula
Guess Spiritomb it is?
tribal trellis
if u want cool sprite aegislash then pretty much
vital sand
ngl i never paid attention to the sprites when im teambuilding 
I just type moves, abilities, and typings that i feel like fit with each other
tribal trellis
what do u have 
vital sand
what do u have <:post_it:882070172469452831>
idk i made a sand team
so far i have won 0 out of 4 battles i had this morning
tribal trellis
nice nice
vital sand
and rn its kinda dead
vital sand
ye idk when u played
uhh this morning around 4-7 am
UTC +7
basically just after the announcement
vital sand
still no one plays doubles
but fr tho
I'm really looking forward to playing doubles
Even in the regular game i always have 2v2 on
I just like playing doubles more and now im having troubles playing singles
tribal trellis
~~still no one plays doubles~~
you know im the only person who ran a doubles tour before this
it was when more people played on the showdown
and it still got like 8 people
so we'll see
vital sand
you know im the only person who ran a doubles tour before this
rly?
tribal trellis
Even in the regular game i always have 2v2 on
i didn't even know that's an option
vital sand
damn i missed some stuff lol
Back when IF showdown has a lot of events i was very busy
I couldnt participate
tribal trellis
sad times
but yea there wasn't much doubles
i ran like 2 if dex doubles and 2 natdex doubles
each with like 8 people i think
vital sand
I just wanna do this and it would be funny
vital sand
each with like 8 people i think
yea im a weirdo
tribal trellis
I just wanna do this and it would be funny
what
tribal trellis
yea im a weirdo
no there's nothing weird about it
vital sand
Im wondering
tribal trellis
i ran the doubles tours cause i like doubles as well
tribal trellis
Would the tourney be an open team sheet?
im guessing it won't be
im not an organizer though
i don't know for sure
vital sand
@thin schooner would the tourneys be an open team sheet style?
urban nebula
Next
Which of these 3 Glaceon fusions are good competitive wise?
Some have bad typing because of alot of weaknesses aside from Glacelie
Glacevern
Glacelie
And Glacequaza
tribal trellis
glacelie still counts as alot of weaknesses and bad typing tbh
and prob the noivern one
quaza is ubers
urban nebula
Ok
tropic path
anyone wants to do a random combat? I want to see how bad I am before tomorrow
warped veldt
I can't join the tourneys, they're happening too late for me
dense token
silver summit
uuuh is it possible to change password?
manic steppe
Even in the regular game i always have 2v2 on
oh hey someone else who does multiple!
i've done 3v3 in all my runs (save for my current run, which is mono-Normal )
vital sand
ayyy
manic steppe
uh, well, here's my noob strats 😅
- Wide Guard is necessary
- Thousand Arrows my beloved
- Abilities are king (except be careful with putting a Lightning Rod 'mon beside an Electric-type user)
no idea how well these prepare me for an attempt at showdown, but
trim herald
ngl i think ive been cooking for this tournament, i spent all of yesterday teambuilding after the announcement LOL
if anything ill get past R1 if i dont miss 3 dracos in a row or something crazy like that
main jungle
First one is random
main jungle
First one is random
I might be able to do that
trim herald
ngl im kind of dreading random because i never get pokemon i enjoy using when i do non-fusion randbats
vital sand
uh, well, here's my noob strats 😅
- Wide Guard is necessary
- Thousand Arrows ...
Yea lol
The thing is i feel like the meta of the current singles are dragons and fairies or just the combination of the two
Not that i know of, ive only plaed 7 battles so far
And 0 doubles cuz no one plays doubles :(
I havent yet to try my team
Im trying to be non meta by having a mono steel team
Fires be damn
trim herald
i mean steels are actually pretty decent
you just dont want too many unless you want the occasional magnet pull mon to eat you alive
vital sand
you just dont want too many unless you want the occasional magnet pull mon to ea...
yea this is for the mono tour one so we ballin with this one
Im also wondering what mon i wanna use for Big Boss tour
Im thinking of using a pseudo but not sure what yet
minor saddle
Anyone want to practice random teams? (I'm not very good at competitive)
Ok give me one sec
trim herald
hey, just to clarify, its allowed to be in more than one tournament, right?
cause im making teams for all of these LOL
main jungle
hey, just to clarify, its allowed to be in more than one tournament, right?
They didn't say anything about not being able to
main jungle
main jungle
I pressed challenge
main jungle
Same as discord without the Vote thing
minor saddle
Do you see it
fossil terrace
Is there a registration page I should go to if I want to participate in one of the upcoming tourneys?
odd kiln
no its just the pokeathlon page
fossil terrace
Good to know, thank you
I have literally never touched Showdown before now, I'm looking forward to getting thrashed round 1
cobalt panther
anyone want to practice monotype?
odd kiln
can
minor saddle
anyone want to practice random battles?
main jungle
Sure
weary bronze
Excuse me but which of these modes will take place the tournament on ? (there are several random modes)
odd kiln
if randbats
weary bronze
if randbats
[Gen 7] IF Random Battle ?
odd kiln
yes
elfin hound
I'm so excited for the tourney
tropic path
anyone wants to do a practice match?
raven wyvern
do not risk missing the entry
Anyone know what "entry" will look like on the pokeathlon page? Sorry never seen or joined one of these ;-;
raven wyvern
anyone wants to do a practice match?
username?
tropic path
cintlag
raven wyvern
challenge sent
rose ingot
> do not risk missing the entry
Anyone know what "entry" will look like on the p...
yeah
how exactly do you "join"?
this is my first time too-
gritty anvil
I assume there will be a message in the Pokeathlon lobby with further details in a few minutes. Would love to hear from anyone with more experience though
rose ingot
anyone wants a practice match rn?
odd kiln
there will be a banner that appears in the lobby in 15 mins
rose ingot
don't wanna go in completely blind-
rose ingot
ah
gritty anvil
anyone wants a practice match rn? <:heehee:945800365457149992>
challenge me, username is "do it for tropius"
lone dust
how long are signups open for?
rose ingot
challenge me, username is "do it for tropius"
sent it
lone dust
once the banner appears?
tropic path
Sorry <@571713287033716757> that was going nowhere, you clearly won, gg
np, well played
spring sparrow
Everyone in the event, please think about potential if you win 
silver summit
I must win
rose ingot
I must win
silver summit
Who's do it for tropius? 
rose ingot
for gogoat!
vital sand
Good luck to everyone participating
spring sparrow
Do it for pokemons with spriting potential
tropic path
right now everything from gens 1-3 are in right?
silver summit
Slurpuff!
fossil terrace
For Gigalith, in my case.
raven wyvern
for gogoat!
I thought the second vote was from different pool pokemon, no? Did I misunderstand? 😓
inner girder
im here for random bats
silver summit
It is
silver summit
I thought the second vote was from different pool pokemon, no? Did I misundersta...
Same pool different vote
rose ingot
if I win it'll be so silly
since I literally had my first battle like
2 minutes ago
inner girder
i mean, they didn't say whats in the 2nd pool
or if its gonna be a vote, or a raffle like last time
spring sparrow
2 minutes ago
Thats going to be a very nice mess
silver summit
right now everything from gens 1-3 are in right?
Only about 50% of gen 3
inner girder
i really hope its a raffle
spring sparrow
A chaos
vital sand
I think it's going to be a raffle
silver summit
1 ans 2 are fully in
west forum
Gl everyone i should be sleeping now but whatever i wanted to join
tropic path
Only about 50% of gen 3
👍
main jungle
Thats going to be a very nice mess <:Painless:903296322294149172>
I got like a days worth total
rose ingot
Thats going to be a very nice mess <:Painless:903296322294149172>
atleast I won my first battle
raven wyvern
How will you match the user who won to their discord? 🤔
rose ingot
I have a chance
fossil terrace
I played a few practice bats last night, and only won the last one
spring sparrow
godlike luck
The protagonist
rose ingot
I am WoofusTheDoofus y'all
fossil terrace
I mean, every tournament needs a few flunkies, right?
silver summit
60 users
rose ingot
The protagonist <:blurry_pain:883827172639408248>
WoofusTheDoofus on his journey to glory!
inner girder
Service anouncement. Use /nick to change yoru name temporarily to your discord name
main jungle
Has IF showdown seen this many players?
tropic path
anyone knows what the tournament format is=
spring sparrow
Anyways, 4 minutes
inner girder
alternatively change your discord to your Showdown name
main jungle
Service anouncement. Use /nick to change yoru name temporarily to your discord n...
Mine is my discord name already
vital sand
if I get
Yea I just had a team with 4 water types and 2 dragon types facing off a lead Ampharos/Noivern with Tail Glow
The fuck am I supposed to do against that bro
rose ingot
Yea I just had a team with 4 water types and 2 dragon types facing off a lead Am...
I got an Togekiss/Oricorio-Pom Pom fusion against a guy with 4 bug types
and I flinch haxed
through a lot
and quiver danced
silver summit
i'll lose first battle
raven wyvern
Same ;-;
silver summit
I will do a bit of trolling
rose ingot
i'll lose first battle
(same )
silver summit
spring sparrow
2 minutes
vital sand
Nah id win the first and only battle
main jungle
It's a lot of luck and some skill thats required for random
spring sparrow
One minute
silver summit
Worst part is: Randbats is the best chance I have to win a tornament
silver summit
Slurpuff
rose ingot
FR
main jungle
Worst part is: Randbats is the best chance I have to win a tornament <:Heehee:11...
That's most peoples chance
rose ingot
Worst part is: Randbats is the best chance I have to win a tornament <:Heehee:11...
now's my chance to be! a [BIG SHOT]
spring sparrow
STARTING NOW
rose ingot
funny enough I think I have better cahnce in this
than in
most spriting competitions
because y'all got too good of sprites
spring sparrow
Ok now how can I see the battles?
tropic path
well, I lost
silver summit
@raw flower Gg's !!
fossil terrace
I won, despite the timer usually being my downfall
raw flower
<@879900884627238923> Gg's !!
GG
silver summit
That fucking thunder lmao
silver summit
Yeah I got trolled
raw flower
IT WAS ALL WATER TYPES
silver summit
The milotic was so massive
tropic path
losing a pokemon in the first turn to a x4 efective move hurt me
silver summit
but I forgot it was part dragon
silver summit
IT WAS ALL WATER TYPES
LMAO TRUE
But I saw thunder and knew what would happen
"Why isn't it thunderbolt smh"
silver summit
lost the first round
rose ingot
it was this pyukumuku onix fusion
silver summit
we are spriters, we will get another chance on contests
rose ingot
that made me wanna puke
spring sparrow
Wait
rose ingot
unaware was annoying
spring sparrow
Who wins?
silver summit
Cancer
rose ingot
and ground water
and guess who, didn't have ANY GRASS MOVES ON HIS TEAM
I still technically have 50% win rate
raw flower
LMAO TRUE
second game just started and tragically my entire team was ghost type and the first pokemon they threw out was sylveon 
west forum
Damn the dream is already over oh well it was fun good night everyone
trim herald
you played rly well
my entire team was weak to ground except for farfetch'd my ass was destined to lose
odd kiln
this shouldve been dual elim
odd kiln
like i had no out my team could not deal with grass steel
tribal trellis
like i had no out my team could not deal with grass steel
yea
i was up against just almost a full sun team
without a resist
my whole team tanked the v-create really well
it was like 3 abusers as well
hexed umbra
I got no ice resist and couldn't beat a tangela/regice
tribal trellis
crazy
trim herald
i had 3 mons weak to ground and my flying pokemon was fearow/farfetch'd
spring sparrow
So... all the users that are talking here just loose?
tribal trellis
i had 3 mons weak to ground and my flying pokemon was fearow/farfetch'd
i think that's doable tbh
trim herald
not against the team i just fought LOL
hexed umbra
So... all the users that are talking here just loose?
Everyone who didn't lose is still playing
spring sparrow
Everyone who didn't lose is still playing <:heehee:945800365457149992>
I know, I just wanna understand better because I never be in a event like that, it was obvious what of course I need to ask
gritty anvil
I got to the ro8
unfortunately my opponent got eliminated in the r04 so my hopes for tropius will not be carried forward
spring sparrow
levels are not balanced correctly for sure
I see that usually the levels are just 100 for all pokemons
tribal trellis
I see that usually the levels are just 100 for all pokemons
hmm
gritty anvil
Levels for randbats aren't 100 as a way to balance against bad pokemon
tribal trellis
i dont think so
gritty anvil
I assume these ones just take the average of what the head & body would usually have in randbats
spring sparrow
I just remember one tournament in that type of pages before where all the levels was 100
trim herald
Levels for randbats aren't 100 as a way to balance against bad pokemon
like this works on paper but nothing is saving farfetch'd/fearow
why was that in there
gritty anvil
The remaining tournament matches wil all be 100. Random battles scale levels so that a legendary doesn't completely clean your clock (it still stands a good chance)
I believe all of the sets in infinite fusion randbats are community-submitted, so work up some actually good sets and submit them for next time
fossil terrace
God, I hate having turn timers
I know it's something pretty much every competitive turn-based game has, but I like having time to think
Made it to the round right before quarter-finals at least. Better than I thought I'd get going into this.
placid hornet
thin schooner
I too got asked that
vagrant pawn
can you play pif showdown without there being an event?
vagrant pawn
how long is this open for
inner girder
how long is this open for
well, you had to be there at 6:00 sharp
else you can't join
right now is the finals
vagrant pawn
Im in a battle now
inner girder
Im in a battle now
if you joined the queue
like Find a battle
then thats not the tournament
you had to click "Join Tournament" at 6:00 sharp
vagrant pawn
oh
inner girder
they really could have made an announcement an hour before hand
and explained all this
but they limited it to Showdown Pings
inner girder
I js did a normal battle
Yee i saw your message in the chat
when you asked if peopel were still on, that was like 30-45 minutes way late
vagrant pawn
dang
spring sparrow
its Thybomb vs VsNPC
The moment
trim herald
Congrats !!!
gritty anvil
absolutely gutted because VsNPC was thinking about voting Tropius
inner girder
Thybomb you have the power to be funny. Pick something that everyon will hate
spring sparrow
Thybomb you have the power to be funny. Pick something that everyon will hate
KAJAJAJA
gritty anvil
But yes, aesthetically cool and unique mons are probably a better choice than competitive ones
inner girder
because people are gonna come messaging you and begging you and bothering you
trim herald
thybomb you have the power pick a pokemon with cool aesthetics and competitive usage (ribombee)
fossil terrace
Alternatively, just pick one you like
gritty anvil
If I was thybomb, on second thought, I would absolutely NOT reveal my identity
gritty anvil
Or just a ball with eyes
Minior my beloved, so many palettes
odd kiln
wait each winner gets a mon to add? i thought it was like a group vote for all the winners
trim herald
thybomb if you're reading this i hope you have a good day LMAO
odd kiln
im going in then
spring sparrow
Minior my beloved, so many palettes
I mean, the other ball
inner girder
wait each winner gets a mon to add? i thought it was like a group vote for all t...
he is telling the mods, which pokemon to put in the group vote
odd kiln
oh