#pif-hoenn-discussion

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silk narwhal
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What wide hips

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They're literally narrower than their shoulders

dim sparrow
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same for mr mime
Not all mime fusions should be cursed
I think hes cute so why do they all do it

twin moth
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Just one question, how many miltank/gardevoir and miltank/lopunny fusions have yall rejected because of rule 2?

cedar path
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wide stance

atomic hornet
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I would love skiddo and gogoat

dim sparrow
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It's mostly the stance of sallazle yeah

silk narwhal
atomic hornet
dim sparrow
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read the bulbapedia page for origin :>

velvet root
cedar path
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that youre seeing stuff that isn't there

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because you want to make up some problem

silk narwhal
cedar path
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that doesnt exist

hushed mantle
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Luvdisc almost took me out

atomic hornet
velvet root
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Yes

hushed mantle
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But lets gooo we have diancie

fading rampart
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I've lost the plot

dim sparrow
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Luvdisc killed my kids

silk narwhal
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Because all i said is absolutely a thing

dim sparrow
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Arrest it

silk narwhal
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  1. The inspiration
  2. The fact that it's way more humanoid than it needs to be
spiral musk
cedar path
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it doesnt look that humanoid to begin with

atomic hornet
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Piss managers suffer for game freak's decisions heehee

cedar path
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it looks like a feminine lizard

silk narwhal
fallen loom
tender plank
cedar path
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i dont see any eyelashes on salazzle

trail hull
cedar path
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it has a distinct lack of them actually

fallen loom
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IF RUINED Miltank

silk narwhal
cedar path
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cats

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dogs

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p much every mammal

silk narwhal
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Bro salazzle looks like it has eyeliner

cedar path
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ok?

silk narwhal
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Are we looking at the same thing

cedar path
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yeah

silk narwhal
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Oh my god I'm just saying that it has human characteristics

cedar path
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i dont think you know how animals work

dim sparrow
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Some Pokémon have origins that aren't "innocent", its not directly mentioned, those things are just things that exist so leave it be ngl

silk narwhal
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Why are you going against me

silk narwhal
cedar path
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idk what you mean going against you

fading rampart
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I feel like you're both talking into walls

dim sparrow
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like if they actively referenced/menioned those things in game then yeah
but like its still a kids game

cedar path
dim sparrow
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so of course they wont

silk narwhal
cedar path
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the characteristics you describe arent there

dim sparrow
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except dark dex entries are fine

cedar path
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its not humanoid

dim sparrow
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palossand

cedar path
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just because something stands on two legs doesnt make it humanoid

silk narwhal
silk narwhal
unkempt kernel
crystal cosmos
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From Bulbapedia: Additionally, it may be inspired by the mo'o, a mythical dragon-like lizard of Hawaiian myth. Generally, mo'o are depicted as large female lizards, which have scales that are black as night, and which would shape-shift into seductive women to devour men. They would also appear when fire was lit near or around their dwellings.

silk narwhal
dim sparrow
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thats just the eyes isnt it

cedar path
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lizards have thick thighs, and lizards typically have markings around their eyes

velvet root
trail hull
silk narwhal
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I never once used "it stands on two legs" as a reason

fallen loom
cedar path
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youre using "humanoid characteristics"

tender plank
# velvet root

Welp,it's clearly human like then, look at those lashes /j

unkempt kernel
dim sparrow
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meanwhile kommo-o is not based on a mo-o

silk narwhal
trail hull
cedar path
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yeah

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its called

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creative liberty

trail hull
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it's a one pice character

unkempt kernel
fallen loom
unkempt kernel
velvet root
crystal cosmos
cedar path
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lizards have markings around their eyes pretty often

silk narwhal
unkempt kernel
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Ah yes the mc is a spoiler

cedar path
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??

trail hull
cedar path
crimson shard
dim sparrow
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Drop the argument
Let's be sad about the mons we didn't get againQuagless

crimson shard
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wrong reply

crystal cosmos
silk narwhal
crystal cosmos
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Yeah both of you just drop it at this point

dim sparrow
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I need to sleep

unkempt kernel
# trail hull no I mean the fusion

Oh if you meant gear 5 or whatever the stupid ugly white haired form literally everyone glazes is called, then no, I just meant in general

atomic hornet
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Swoobat and luvdisc would make a lovely fusion

cedar path
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it's not ugly tho

umbral river
spiral musk
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salazzle has a sick color palette 😔

cedar path
crystal cosmos
fading rampart
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the part about whiptail lizards is probably more believable in that

umbral river
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Oh I thought you were talking about them not sourcing the bulbapedia

velvet root
cedar path
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oh no they said bulbapedia

dim sparrow
silk narwhal
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I genuinely don't understand what you want from me

It's very clearly made to be "seductive" it's the whole point of it. It's always female, it has a harem

cedar path
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i was saying more so bulbapedia doesnt have anything concrete

trail hull
dim sparrow
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i really hope luvdisc doesnt deconfitm it :(

cedar path
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Yeah? those things arent strictly human

dim sparrow
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the heart motif is more versatile on swoobat

silk narwhal
cedar path
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...its not though

dim sparrow
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cuz luvdisc is literally just the heart

umbral river
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Swoobat is silly looking

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I like it ^-^

trail hull
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luvdic is great and you can incorporate the heart scale as detail

silk narwhal
cedar path
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it looks like a newt

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thats standing up

umbral river
dim sparrow
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maybe next year swoobat IsForMe

crystal cosmos
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Newt is ALSO something Bulbapedia says

cedar path
# trail hull

ima be real chief i wouldnt know what this is a fusion of if you didnt say luvdisc

silk narwhal
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Dude no it doesn't

spiral musk
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I mean, a lot of pokemon barely looks like their inspo

dim sparrow
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salazzle's head isnt humanoid

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but the body is

silk narwhal
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Newts don't have wide hips and a FUCKING BREAST BULGE

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holy shit dude

crystal cosmos
trail hull
crimson shard
cedar path
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tbf

spiral musk
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salazzle doesn't have wide hips

cedar path
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I dont read bulbapedia

dim sparrow
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but luvdisc is bland

silk narwhal
cedar path
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i only care for what the pokedex says and official interviews

dim sparrow
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you need to take liberties to make it moderately interesting

spiral musk
west sonnet
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the creativity of the human spirit

west sonnet
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We did it with Voltorb

silk narwhal
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Like

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What the fuck

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What is this shit

dim sparrow
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yeah but

it sucks Trollgar

silk narwhal
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It's in the fucking game

west sonnet
cedar path
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looks like pokemon snap

deft trout
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Frog actually put Luvdisc in before Spheal

west sonnet
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it’s fine, Salazzle is fine

dim sparrow
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dont say it

crystal cosmos
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Can you both stop arguing and move on tho like seriously

fallen loom
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so Salazzle never getting in because sprites can't control themselves

silk narwhal
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Look at that and tell me with a straight face it looks just like a real lizard or salamander

cedar path
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it looks like a salamander

silk narwhal
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And with this, the argument is over

trail hull
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No matter how many haters I'm happy luvdisc got in and like bruxish the hate will slowly fade away with time

fading rampart
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rick doing everything they can to keep salazzle out of IF

hazy pine
dim sparrow
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like any Pokémon that already has a defined concept

silk narwhal
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Cause clearly we're not gonna reach a meeting point

crystal cosmos
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It is both things you say now move on

silk narwhal
cedar path
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why would I want a meeting point with someone so obtuse lmao

spiral musk
cedar path
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i never intended to meet you in anything

west sonnet
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Machoke and Salazzle are both Like That, it’s fine, it’s all totally fine

dim sparrow
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Most Pokémon after gen 1 have a wide variety of inspirtations

Luvdisc is just heart shaped fish

crimson shard
silk narwhal
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I'm fine if it's added

trail hull
crystal cosmos
dim sparrow
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My phone is at 1 and i shoudl be sleeping angways

silk narwhal
fading rampart
fallen loom
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next batch has Alomomola and the one after has Basculin I'm guessing

crystal cosmos
cedar path
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I dont see this as heated

dim sparrow
fading rampart
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it's not if you never intend to see the other person's perspective, it's just you talking

silk narwhal
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You weren't discussing, you were just saying "no" to all of my reasonings

cedar path
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I can see their perspective

fathom ridge
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how tf is the salazzle theme still up

cedar path
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theyre just all wrong

dim sparrow
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Quick distract them

cedar path
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because he doesnt know what a lizard looks like lol

crystal cosmos
inland jewel
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you know. im going to lose it if Frog puts in all water types before he completes any other types

ripe wigeon
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They are all lovely Pokemon

cedar path
fallen loom
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52 Water Types left

fading rampart
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you really didn't

silk narwhal
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Motherfucker it doesn't look a lizard OR a salamander, if you find one that looks like that and fucking twerks when you take a picture of it, hit me up because it'll be crazy

silk narwhal
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Jesus fuck

cedar path
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i take it you dont know what a mating call is then

inland jewel
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true, but water has 77 pokemon now (7.7/10) to much water

umbral river
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Don't get onto Frog for... watering things down

inland jewel
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some other types only have around 20 representatives

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haha funny joke guys

cedar path
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actually good point what types have the lowest representation?

crystal cosmos
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It’s both a lizard and humanoid jeez

trail hull
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we need more water

silk narwhal
fallen loom
trail hull
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let if flood everything

twin moth
cedar path
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wait fr ice?

umbral river
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Gamefreak hates ice

silk narwhal
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Mating call? Dude we're talking about how it looks

inland jewel
cedar path
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actually scratch that yeah

atomic hornet
cedar path
silk narwhal
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It's always been ice

cedar path
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🤷‍♂️

silk narwhal
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It's a terrible typin

fallen loom
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Ice has exactly 20 reps

fathom ridge
trail hull
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there was too much grass type , we need more water

cedar path
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ice is a great typing... aesthetically.

umbral river
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GameFreak makes bad ice 'mons so that nobody cares about ice mons so that they don't have to make more ice 'mons

cedar path
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😭

fathom ridge
atomic hornet
crimson shard
silk narwhal
velvet root
fallen loom
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we only got one Electric since Stunfisk and it's Oricorio

cedar path
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I love ice type tho

twin moth
trail hull
umbral river
twin moth
cedar path
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lol

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forget it

twin moth
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Everything about ice type sucks

tender plank
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we need more water/rock types named tirtouga and carracosta

umbral river
fathom ridge
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next year we will get the goat, the bettle, and everything

cedar path
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you just want to drag this on more

inland jewel
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the lowest are
Ice at 20
Fighting, Dark, Electric at 28
Fairy at 29

silk narwhal
cedar path
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It clearly looks like its doing one though since thats not how it moves in battles

twin moth
fallen loom
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79/131 Water Types (60.31%)
62/102 Flying Types (60.78%)
59/112 Normal Types (52.68%)
58/97 Grass Types (56.7%)
47/66 Poison Types (71.21%)
47/84 Psychic Types (60.71%)
46/64 Ground Types (71.88%)
45/62 Rock Types (72.58%)
42/64 Fire Types (65.63%)
39/46 Dragon Types (84.78%)
38/77 Bug Types (49.35%)
37/44 Ghost Types (84.09%)
34/49 Steel Types (69.39%)
29/47 Fairy Types (61.7%)
28/48 Dark Types (58.33%)
28/49 Electric Types (57.14%)
28/56 Fighting Types (50%)
20/34 Ice Types (58.82%)

crystal cosmos
cedar path
fathom ridge
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funny bettle

cedar path
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man

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i wish vikavolt was faster

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😢

full star
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I just want Malamar :(

umbral river
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Oh yeah Ice type isn't lowest repped in IF

fathom ridge
inland jewel
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thats the fun part, in fusion he can be

fathom ridge
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GRUBBIN IS FASTER

cedar path
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but

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then it isnt vikavolt

full star
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Once I get Malamar I'll transcend

silk narwhal
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All I'm saying is that lizards don't look like that

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Which they DON'T

cedar path
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some do

fallen loom
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Bug is lowest repped

silk narwhal
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And he just keeps saying "no"

cedar path
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but yeah

umbral river
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In IF, Fighting and Dark have the least reps

fathom ridge
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funny bettle

cedar path
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43 speed is wack

silk narwhal
inland jewel
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yeah percentage wise, Bug is the only one below 50%

spiral musk
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it's just the pose 😔

umbral river
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oh

cedar path
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i posted a few

fathom ridge
crystal cosmos
spiral musk
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now let's stop this plz

umbral river
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Oh my bad we have the new Pokemon to consider

twin moth
# fathom ridge TRUE

I actually wish he was slower at around base 35 so he was more effective in trick room teams

full star
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But evil supervillain glow squid

silk narwhal
fathom ridge
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funny bettle

silk narwhal
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He keeps saying it has nothing humanoid

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Nothing

inland jewel
fathom ridge
hollow creek
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WOWWE

inland jewel
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with a good 30% of that being pikaclones

hollow creek
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DISMXE AND LUVDUDC

umbral river
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Hey wait, guys, so we need some more bug types right? I have a couple suggestions...

hollow creek
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10/10 frog

cedar path
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haha it did that to you too spooky

umbral river
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embed fail...

dim sparrow
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I am not excited to sprite luvdisc i just forgot its name

cedar path
umbral river
dim sparrow
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Kricketune is good

fathom ridge
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thats fair

dim sparrow
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I mean not in battle

cedar path
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base 93 speed would be enough to be like

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okay-fast

dim sparrow
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But design wise

umbral river
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I like Kricketune ^-^

cedar path
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not super fast

silk narwhal
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@cedar path can we just end it and say it's both humanoid and a lizard, which i never denied?

fathom ridge
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but maybe i would also need abit more bulk

silk narwhal
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I really don't wanna keep arguing

cedar path
fallen loom
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39 Bug and Grass Types remain

atomic hornet
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I love kricketune's cry

fathom ridge
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funny ah bettle

fathom ridge
dim sparrow
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You could use the classical music theme

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For a lot of cool fusions

umbral river
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Kricketune's cry is great but it has more than just a silly cry... ;-;

cedar path
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what were they cooking w/ kricketune

unkempt kernel
cedar path
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cause i wanna be in that kitchen

atomic hornet
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do do do do do woooooooop!

dim sparrow
soft solar
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D E L E L E LE W O O O O O P

fathom ridge
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i wonder if cricketun fusions would be awesome, it hink it has potential

silk narwhal
umbral river
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Kricketune is amazing, some people just don't see the vision

dim sparrow
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of a violin cubone

crystal cosmos
twin moth
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I wish golisopod had a different ability and was slower, hed be busted if he was just those two things

atomic hornet
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@spice sage The pokemon's cry is based on the head mon right?

soft solar
cedar path
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like 80% of gen 7 were slow

trail hull
soft solar
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Or at least passable

soft solar
dim sparrow
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kricketune >> meloetta

silent acorn
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HELL YEAH! ITS DIANCIE!

fathom ridge
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aegislash could be a big violin :0

crystal cosmos
umbral river
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One particular fusion I enjoy is Wailord on a church organ

fathom ridge
unkempt kernel
cedar path
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and then they MADE THE HISUIAN EVEN SLOWER

twin moth
cedar path
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man

trail hull
dim sparrow
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thats true

silent acorn
cedar path
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Vikavolt shouldve had speed boost

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or some thing

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ANYTHING

soft solar
inland jewel
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if i could add a bug type into the game I'd chose Vespiquen

unkempt kernel
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Do they know?

dim sparrow
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decidueye is understandable at 70 speed

fathom ridge
dim sparrow
twin moth
cedar path
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i just think his stat spread is awful

twin moth
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Very viable in trick room now

inland jewel
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does Krikatune's stats support being a head mon?

cedar path
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i dont like trick room

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it sucks

dim sparrow
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I don't like hisuian Decidueye

cedar path
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annoying ass gimmick

umbral river
dim sparrow
unkempt kernel
soft solar
dim sparrow
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i hate how everyone always says "oh its good in trick room cuz its slow"

inland jewel
hollow creek
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Every pick was perfect

cedar path
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i hate this shit

crystal cosmos
molten aspen
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Kinda curious on how we can even get Diancie since its a mythical, will there be a new area? Like call it Carbink Cave?

cedar path
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i hate trick room setups

silent acorn
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Alright Luvdisc is in

cedar path
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so much

dim sparrow
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Thats literally only doubles
Tr is trash in singles

silent acorn
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Good luck making that garbage fish good

atomic hornet
cedar path
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its useless in anything other than VGC or Doubles

umbral river
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Also don't forget that Kricketot is really cute

twin moth
cedar path
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and i dont play doubles or VGC

twin moth
cedar path
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so im just stuck here with a physical attacking pokemon that has 100 SpAtk

crystal cosmos
silk narwhal
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I don't even know what trick room does

soft solar
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Fury Cutter is decent with technician since early on it gets those boosts

dim sparrow
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I hate VGC

crystal cosmos
cedar path
silent acorn
cedar path
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so slow pokemon go first

silk narwhal
soft solar
dim sparrow
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It's just doubles but played ina crappy format where you cant even use your whole tesm in a match

twin moth
soft solar
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Trick Room fucking with priority would be so cool tbh

cedar path
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i fucking hate psychic terrain trick room mons

dim sparrow
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and there's always broken stuff cuz gamefreak only bans legendaries

sometimes

silk narwhal
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Then why do i see people obsessing over fast pokemon if trick room completely negates that

umbral river
silk narwhal
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I hear trick room being used all the time

twin moth
soft solar
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Because trick room still takes a turn to set up

cedar path
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^

soft solar
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Whereas fast mons smack right away

crystal cosmos
cedar path
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a lot of trick room setters have to be absurdly bulky

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to even see use

inland jewel
dim sparrow
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I played vgc

silent acorn
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Wonder why people talking about psychic mons and trick room...

dim sparrow
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i did not like it

silk narwhal
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Oh so i can just prevent you from setting it up

inland jewel
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like we still have space for maps, we don't have enough space to add an entire region of maps

soft solar
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Trick Room also works better in a doubles game

cedar path
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^

crystal cosmos
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Different opinions agree to disagree

dim sparrow
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indeedee more like
dumb
owned Trollgar

cedar path
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i like to play pokemon as singleplayer games

silent acorn
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So now that 500th is in

cedar path
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so when the pokemon are just mechanically bad

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it feels awful

silent acorn
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We can say goodbye to this channel

cedar path
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especially when they goto another gen

umbral river
dim sparrow
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jk indeedee ur cute design wise but really dumb in doubles

molten aspen
twin moth
ripe wigeon
cedar path
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how am i suppose to use decidueye in a gen outside of trick room

dim sparrow
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I hate playing the gen 9 in general lol

cedar path
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you literally cant

twin moth
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You can cheese a lot of singles teams, doubles teams though...

cedar path
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its too slow to use normally

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too fast to use trick room

atomic hornet
dim sparrow
silent acorn
crystal cosmos
atomic hornet
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That's where you would normally get shuckle smh

cedar path
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i dont play draft

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the most competitive format i play is randbats

umbral river
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You can still get shuckle tho ^-^

soft solar
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Ive never done pokemon draft

ripe wigeon
cedar path
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cause i dont like these games competitively

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they just suck after gen 6-7

atomic hornet
umbral river
atomic hornet
twin moth
# dim sparrow what do you mean by that

If you play singles theres too many ways to get fucked because you didnt consider a single cheese strat which is very annoying, also stalling is way less viable in doubles

cedar path
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^

dim sparrow
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i kinda learnt that i dont like any of the gens competitively Quagless

Playing Competitive Pokémon in general just stinky

crystal cosmos
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Yeah Doubles also usually end faster

cedar path
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me when i encounter the 10th recycle sitrus berry stall in a row

crystal cosmos
cedar path
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randbats

dim sparrow
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doubles too fast

soft solar
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Leppa > refresh > recover > recycle

crystal cosmos
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Doubles has cool strategies that singles doesn’t have and vice versa

cedar path
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yeah like

ripe wigeon
cedar path
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being painfully boring

dim sparrow
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toxapex gliscor corviknight core popkern

cedar path
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^

dim sparrow
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i am the one using it Quagless

soft solar
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Tbh I'm a Blue mtg player so pissing people off for comp play is kinda my thing

crystal cosmos
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Stall in singles is something doubles has over it

soft solar
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"I dont care if I win. I just want you to lose."

dim sparrow
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i hate playing hyper offense

umbral river
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I use weak pokemon because my competitive pokemon expert friend gets mad

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"You're going to lose this match, you know that." "Don't care look at my Sunflora"

dim sparrow
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bulky offense or stall
I don't like the i kill you you kill me metagames

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like gen 9

soft solar
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Imagine if we also had insurgence deltas lol

twin moth
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I hate singles mostly because you encounter eviolite chansey with reflect light screen protect toxic, and usually another pokemon setting up a substitute beforehand which is painful

crystal cosmos
cedar path
twin moth
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Dont even get me started on evasion strats

twin moth
cedar path
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i dont care for the current gen OU after dlc is dropped

crystal cosmos
atomic hornet
twin moth
clear lichen
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That Chansey moveset is ass, Baton Pass is banned and so is Shed Tail so Substitutes cannot be passed, Evasion is banned

dim sparrow
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but screens is mostly used on offense

soft solar
# cedar path i dont know what this is

Insurgence is an... edgy fangame about cults and shit, but it also features something that only really existed in cards for a while, typeshifted mons. Kinda regional variants but have all the exact same stats, just different abilities, moves, and types

clear lichen
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Screens is also more of a HO thing yeah

crystal cosmos
clear lichen
dim sparrow
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if you wanted to use screens you'd go like grimmsnarl or dragaputl

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with light clay

twin moth
soft solar
clear lichen
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Stall also really suffers in Gen 9

cedar path
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im aware it's got cults and what not

dim sparrow
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yeah i refused to use cyclizar when gen9 ou just came out lol

twin moth
clear lichen
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For example, take Blissey

cedar path
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i thought you meant more so like a format

clear lichen
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A Pokemon who is a staple on stall but ass outside of Stall

soft solar
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Yeah shed tail is one of the most dumb moves in pokemon history

cedar path
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oh yeah 100%

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shed tail is dumb.

clear lichen
#

Blissey's viability can be taken as Stall's viability as a whole

cedar path
#

that shouldve never been made

#

ever

dim sparrow
#

Blissey is good outside of stall too

soft solar
cedar path
#

on a REGENERATOR MON BTW

dim sparrow
#

its the special wall

crystal cosmos
soft solar
clear lichen
#

Blissey's viability is B-

#

It isn't bad, but it definitely isn't good

soft solar
dim sparrow
#

gen 9 just made every broken offense mon ever

twin moth
#

I just play in the tier that golisopod is in

clear lichen
#

A lot of Pokemon considered stallmons have something going for them on non stall teams, and Blissey doesn't

soft solar
#

Though I should have stuck with chansey and made it eviolite

clear lichen
#

Gen 9 is Offence Central

dim sparrow
#

kingambit = stupid
gholdengo = dumb
protosynthesis mons
Kyurem
Darkrai

twin moth
#

I just dont really play gen 9, because it doesn't have golisopod

clear lichen
#

Like 20-30 banned Pokemon, most of them are offence skewed, and the metagame still heavily disfavours stall

ripe wigeon
# atomic hornet *I don't know what you're talking about*

||There is a dressing room for testing in Pallet Town (in the farm area you need debug to get there) and I believe that’s where frog test the outfits. If you walk out the left room, you’ll be in Olivine City. And there are some changes comparing to the old version.||

soft solar
#

Orthworm is good too tho, that earth eater ability is great

dim sparrow
#

i see bliss all the time on non stall

cedar path
#

and yeah i hate earth eater

unkempt stone
#

I really had the thought of like…

dim sparrow
#

just to cover for special defense

crystal cosmos
clear lichen
#

Blissey on non stall would be something I'd expect to see if it wasn't Gen 9

dim sparrow
#

Slow shed tail is good too

unkempt stone
#

A Luvdisc/Ludicolo fusion based on Dionysus as a mythology (if you can make it work somehow)

cedar path
#

also

crystal cosmos
#

Slow Shed Tail is better but the regen Mon is fast

clear lichen
#

Is Sceptile the worst Shed Tail user?

unkempt stone
#

I just think the idea is neat

cedar path
#

I hate this gen

clear lichen
#

We don't have any way to tell

cedar path
#

so many fucking paralysis

#

I hate t-wave

#

so much

twin moth
clear lichen
#

But gut feeling says it is

twin moth
dim sparrow
#

sucker punch is just
ridiculous sometimes

#

doing half to resists

crystal cosmos
umbral river
#

You know I didn't think about it, but, Electric Tera Orthworm with Earth Eater

atomic hornet
dim sparrow
#

Add tera dark and 5 fainted allies

clear lichen
#

You also do not need to consider cheese strats to beat them

umbral river
#

That's funny

clear lichen
#

A lot of cheese strats crumple apart instantly as soon as you lay a single entry hazard

umbral river
#

Unbalanced but funny

dim sparrow
#

like
i cant play this gen

#

its just random bullshit go the metagame

crystal cosmos
dim sparrow
#

and all the stupid booster energy mons

cedar path
#

i dont mind them

clear lichen
#

And a serious team always runs entry hazards

cedar path
#

i wish they had real abilities though.

umbral river
#

Not unbalanced still funny

soft solar
#

I fuckin love Kingambit, though I'm prolly biased cause it's my first viable shiny

west sonnet
#

Imagine IF with Tera

#

what a mess

twin moth
dim sparrow
#

tera fire v create entei fusions

crystal cosmos
dim sparrow
#

help

dim sparrow
#

toxapex is uu

#

which is insane

clear lichen
#

Tspikes actually doesn't fare too well against cheese

#

Well

#

Mostly just Aron

dim sparrow
#

stealth rock

soft solar
clear lichen
#

Simply Stealth Rock/Spikes

crystal cosmos
#

V-Create is physical

dim sparrow
#

sword of ruin v create chi yu

soft solar
#

Yeah kinda forgot that

dim sparrow
twin moth
soft solar
#

Aron is the best FEAR mon

umbral river
#

Aron specifically?

dim sparrow
#

just switch ina ghost type

ripe wigeon
clear lichen
#

The only way its posing a threat is if you just like

umbral river
#

Oh right the fear strat...

fleet quail
#

LESSGO

clear lichen
#

Lead Aron

twin moth
dim sparrow
#

or use regenerator

clear lichen
#

Otherwise you just die to hazards

umbral river
#

I forgot about that meme strat

cedar path
#

it sucks now

crystal cosmos
#

Or have your own priority

cedar path
#

but ey

dim sparrow
#

will o wisp

cedar path
#

its p ok

clear lichen
#

FEAR as a whole is just unviable

crystal cosmos
#

Yes

umbral river
#

It's funny

dim sparrow
#

I need to sleep

soft solar
#

Duh but when you're not expecting it it's gonna fuck ya up lol

crystal cosmos
clear lichen
#

Can't hit me with Sturdy/Focus Sash if you aren't at full HP

#

If they used Focus Band honestly mad respect

dim sparrow
#

honestly
Offensive AV toxapex was kinda fun

umbral river
#

Does Stealth Rocks hit flying types?

dim sparrow
#

yes for 1/4 of hp

umbral river
#

Oh okay

dim sparrow
#

its strong against them

clear lichen
twin moth
#

I love using golisopod, honestly a very very fun mon, i just hope emergency exit was reworked or he got like 30 more base hp

dim sparrow
#

bug types got unfairly

clear lichen
#

They were immune to Spikes so they wanted an entry hazard that punished Spike immune mons

umbral river
#

That's riiiight okay

clear lichen
#

They forgot a lot of Spike immune mons were Levitate

cedar path
soft solar
#

Does rocks instant pop air balloon?

clear lichen
#

Stealth Rock fails at its fundamental job but it sure as hell didn't fail at tearing Singles apart

dim sparrow
#

Boots genuinely one of the best items ever made

clear lichen
#

Charizard falling all the way from OU to NU in a singular generation:

twin moth
soft solar
cedar path
#

oh yeah

#

esp if youre x4 weak to rocks

crystal cosmos
soft solar
#

Oh but then you don't get she'll bell

clear lichen
dim sparrow
#

poor bug flying shitmons

clear lichen
#

And at most weakens 1 Pokemon

soft solar
#

Nah you can still get one

clear lichen
#

At the very least, Aron gets hit by a multi hit move and fucking dies but those aren't common

dim sparrow
#

99% hp on kingambit in trade for aron is worth it Trollgar

soft solar
#

Theyre still gonna hit ya probably, and endeavor it, but then quick attack anyway

cedar path
#

quick attack

dim sparrow
#

like anyone would ever lead gambit

twin moth
cedar path
#

uses spiky shield

clear lichen
soft solar
#

It does

clear lichen
#

Let me check

soft solar
#

Otherwise it couldn't FEAR

dim sparrow
#

It doesn't

#

It uses sandstorm to kill

crystal cosmos
#

Oh yeah

#

It was sand

dim sparrow
#

Even less reliable

clear lichen
#

Yeah, no Quick Attack

dim sparrow
#

cuz steel types and ground types are everywhere

#

8 ground types

cedar path
#

not much in LC

dim sparrow
crystal cosmos
#

Ogerpon is the newest fear mon lol

clear lichen
#

Why do they call it FEAR Aron if it doesn't have a Focus Sash, doesn't have Quick Attack and isn't a Rattata

dim sparrow
#

funny thing is

#

rattata isnt even the best mon at doing that

#

its taillow

clear lichen
#

True!!

dim sparrow
#

since it has scrappy

clear lichen
#

Tailow W

twin moth
clear lichen
#

It's the best at doing a bad strat

#

That counts for something I guess

dim sparrow
#

sometimes when i face fear
They deal 99% to me
very scary

#

then i heal with leftovers

clear lichen
#

Ghosts are a genuine massive hole in the FEAR strats

dim sparrow
#

and they die

crystal cosmos
#

The real fear name is F***ing Evil Annoying Rodent

clear lichen
#

It's a damn shame it has like 5 other massive holes

cedar path
soft solar
#

I feel you have a vendetta against FEAR lol

#

It's just funny

clear lichen
#

And that it makes Singles boring

cedar path
#

i dont know anyone who claims that

dim sparrow
#

like leftovers is enough to counter it lol

soft solar
#

Ive literallt never seen anyone say that

crystal cosmos
#

It’s a meme strat

twin moth
clear lichen
#

It's mostly a thing of a past that i got so annoyed at that ranting about it is engraved in my brain

#

It cannot get out

dim sparrow
#

the memes

soft solar
#

I enjoyed watching someone FEAR ultra necrozma in USUM

dim sparrow
#

"Oh your level 100 arceus?"

clear lichen
#

When I sleep all I hear are voices telling me that Entry hazards fuck over Tailow

#

Help

dim sparrow
soft solar
#

The arguably strongest boss pokemon ever
Vs
One little ratto

clear lichen
twin moth
#

Showdown youtuber after faking a video with a strategy that will never work for 8 year olds:

clear lichen
#

Extreme Killer? More like extremely over the top nickname

#

(It's accurate though)

dim sparrow
#

very strong

soft solar
#

I wonder, can you fear Eternamax Eternatus?

cedar path
#

nope

steel meadow
#

Man i just missed the luvdisc troll

soft solar
#

Or are you stuck with rhe dogs in that fight

steel meadow
#

How bad was the chat?

soft solar
#

Can't remember

clear lichen
#

I mean hitting some poor physically frail speedy mon with an Arceus Extreme Speed is certainly Extreme and killer

cedar path
ripe wigeon
clear lichen
#

Chaos took the world

steel meadow
#

Did the calm down when diancie got announced atleast?

cedar path
ripe wigeon
cedar path
#

Dammit

#

i wanted tinkaton

clear lichen
cedar path
#

😭

#

i should get a tinkaton sprite and replace mawile

soft solar
#

Hammer baby

crystal cosmos
clear lichen
#

Mawover

soft solar
#

🔨

cedar path
#

i love tinkaton

#

easily one of my fav mons

clear lichen
#

I see the appeal behind Tinkaton

cedar path
#

too bad theres not a pokemon thats similar to it in 1-7

clear lichen
#

Small gremlin with beeg hammer

#

That supposedly preys on Corviknight

soft solar
#

And it's shiny is just a different hammer metal lol

clear lichen
#

But I think it wrote its own dex entry to hype itself up ngl

ripe wigeon
cedar path
#

.

#

👀

#

wait

#

i assume its not on the fusiondex

ripe wigeon
#

it's not

cedar path
#

ok

soft solar
soft solar
#

Gigaton Hammer Slaking

crystal cosmos
#

Banned to Ubers you go

cedar path
#

nah

soft solar
#

Then it's disadvantage doesn't even mean anything
I think

#

That's how it works with recharge moves anyway

cedar path
#

its not a recharge move

#

you just cant use it the turn after

soft solar
#

Yeah but it depends on how the move itself is coded

crystal cosmos
#

It just can’t be used twice in a row

cedar path
#

but youre not in recharge

#

it just cant be used twice in a row, you can pick any other move

soft solar
#

So then no truant wouldn't work with gigaton

cedar path
#

ye

crystal cosmos
soft solar
#

Yeah of course but it would have been funny

#

Anything that makes truant not 100% awful

cedar path
#

also

crystal cosmos
#

Don’t use Truant

cedar path
#

steelworker gigaton hammer

crystal cosmos
#

You can just do that

soft solar
#

But
I want to

cedar path
#

steelworker gigaton hammer + choice band and STAB

soft solar
#

Slaking is my favorite mon

soft solar
atomic hornet
glass patio
#

why do heart scales look better than luvdisc itself

crystal cosmos
cedar path
#

but

#

worth it

hidden relic
cedar path
#

i also did life orb w/ this

soft solar
#

Life orb works

#

Or guts/flame orb gigaton hammer

cedar path
#

well i was doing it in a cobblemon server

glass patio
cedar path
#

they had a custom regional form

#

that got banned from OU

atomic hornet
soft solar
#

I'm almost disappointed that we didn't get Comfey

cedar path
#

real quick

#

how do i get the showdown role

#

i cant find it am blind

soft solar
#

Just cause it's head fusions would be the body mon with a lei on

#

Which would be cute

fallen loom
glass patio
ripe wigeon
cedar path
clear lichen
#

Tinkaton is my 33rd favourite Steel type and my 20th favourite Fairy type, including ties as 1 spot and including alternate forms, and lands in High B tier

ripe wigeon
#

I'll go for that sign now

clear lichen
#

This took too long to check

crystal cosmos
#

Yeah Diancie was already technically leaked even before the leak

clear lichen
#

The conversation isn't even about it anymore

ripe wigeon
glass patio
#

Btw, what was the leak?

glass patio
#

I missed out on that

#

Yeah ik it was diancie

#

But like

#

What was it ditto

soft solar
crystal cosmos
soft solar
#

Judt posting funny weird gif

crystal cosmos
#

The other one

ripe wigeon
#

while it's not what frog planned to show the leak

#

but it's earlier

crystal cosmos
#

I’m 99% sure he meant the more recent one that was done purposely

glass patio
#

ok so there were two things

ripe wigeon
#

I missed the movie too

crystal cosmos
#

Then when time came around he trolled and released Luvdisc instead

glass patio
#

can’t believe luvdisc learns diamond storm

hidden relic
#

Was with the events thing

crystal cosmos
fallen loom
#

Alomomola or Basculin are the next troll addition

hidden relic
#

Where there was a "Mystery Movie"

#

This

#

But the title was set as "Diancie movie for tomorrow"

#

and the location was just "test"

glass patio
#

ohhh

fallen loom
#

Diancie was an obvious choice because its butler is in

ripe wigeon
hidden relic
fathom ridge
#

im keeping this image as a little memorie evil

velvet root
#

The green guy

crystal cosmos
#

Now shows the screenshots showing it was all planned

next flare
#

I like the bigger image

hidden relic
fathom ridge
#

i loved this MASSIVE trolling lmao

fallen loom
#

there are 44 Legendaries, Mythicals and UBs left combined

#

excluding forms

#

not including Type: Null either

glass patio
hidden relic
#

Twas all planned

#

Only thing that wasn't 100% planned was the Ribbon takeback, we came up with that last second and winged it heehee

glass patio
#

was diancie dex number 500 just because ribbon posted like 100 sprites?

fathom ridge
#

i could not imagine a better way to end the reveals lmao, this last few hours have been so fun

velvet root
#

I love that we ended up being too nice for your plans

hidden relic
#

I don't angrrr

||jk love y'allHeartMail ||

fallen loom
#

so is there a secret 502nd spot?

fathom ridge
velvet root
#

exactly

fallen loom
#

if we got a 502, half of all mon exactly would be from the first 2 generations... including forms as different mon

velvet root
#

I mean 3 is one of my fav numbers
So we could for me
You know a little treat
Cuz idk I had my bday some weeks ago
And I got sad and all

hidden relic
#

Unless there is some secret I don't know, then for right now there ain't anything else????????????

But I'd say all of the stuff for the 500k celebration went super well, so we may get to do something like this next year as well

fallen loom
#

"may"?

crystal cosmos
#

1m celebration all Pokémon added in

fallen loom
#

OK, but Alomomola is the troll Water Type next year right?

steel meadow
#

youre telling me frog is actually fine not having a round number of pokemon in the game? allthethings

tender plank
velvet root
fallen loom
#

???? HUH?!

glass patio
#

why 501 Despair

#

they just want to make us suffer Despair

steel meadow
tender plank
#

i HATE awkward prime numbers!

#

i might get rabid over this

hidden relic
fallen loom
#

Luvdisc gets eviolite?

glass patio
hidden relic
#

That's a banger concept

steel meadow
hidden relic
#

Emote people make that clueless

glass patio
#

grrr ankward prime numbers

steel meadow
#

i still cant believe this isnt a emote

fallen loom
#

so like last year the last 3 mon were (excluding Necrozma):
A mythical, a Pokémon with 2 forms, a troll Water Type and Pokémon that don't evolve

glass patio
# glass patio

y know i’d like to turn this into a sprite with smth like poliwrath maybe?

#

poliwrath fits

cedar path
ripe wigeon
glass patio
#

I mean idk if it’s really necessary with stuff like this carbonk Unamused Uncool

cedar path
#

laughing at people is always necessary

glass patio
#

angry minior is funny but do we really need it

#

wait

#

we do

steel meadow
#

heehee is not enough

hidden relic
#

You know you want to make it

glass patio
#

it’s not fair that we alr have Trollgar and then they add trolldisc

atomic hornet
ripe wigeon
fallen loom
#

there is no Olivine

steel meadow
#

oh no i read the text before it got spoilered now im so spoiled Despair

ripe wigeon
#

no it's just a dreammaybe

steel meadow
#

make it happen funny bird

glass patio
hexed agate
#

that's scrungly

crystal cosmos
#

image6

fallen loom
hexed agate
#

so nha, I don't think Iwll

steel meadow
crystal cosmos
steel meadow
fallen loom
#

unfuse

crystal cosmos
#

By making it not scrungly

glass patio
#

this batch of pokemon is both awesome and trash Painless

fallen loom
#

better than last year

crystal cosmos
#

Nah it’s all awesome heehee

#

Last year was also awesome

dusty arrow
#

YYOOOOOO

fallen loom
#

we need Cosmog line though

glass patio
steel meadow
#

what the hell is this? is this new? howlsnani

glass patio
dusty arrow
#

wakt what do you mean luvdisc and diancie

steel meadow
#

i think im blind

fathom ridge
dusty arrow
#

wheres the ice type magikarp

hexed agate
fathom ridge
crystal cosmos
dusty arrow
glass patio
fathom ridge
#

#spriter-general message this is the first message with the emote, so yeah its just very underused

fallen loom
#

so when will new mon be added to IF?

ripe wigeon
#

And that explained ||why there are so many Shuckles in Cianwood City. You the one working on the map.gentlyholds ||

fathom ridge
fallen loom
#

this month?

crystal cosmos
#

Or December

ripe wigeon
cedar path
#

oh that explains why

crystal cosmos
#

It will be our Christmas present

#

Trust

fallen loom
#

for all of them or just to to the starters?

humble lance
tender plank
proud lion
cedar path
#

woah