pif-hoenn-discussion

[hollow creek]

I definitely would never want someone to post such a gif, or would be so not funny methinks

[hardy tartan]

The one where it’s shoving an axew in its pants?

[fathom ridge]

okay there isnt a gap at least

[molten loom]

Not that one

[fathom ridge]

no, the one were it does the bad thing in poketoons

[ember bear]

wonder if it's a 3 stager or not

[bronze barn]

why not both...

ha ha

[weak trellis]

more fighting, more dark, good, good.

[fathom ridge]

most likley? no

[hollow creek]

I’m hoping for eelektross I’m keeping my hope

[ember bear]

honestly hope not

[bronze barn]

I AM GOING INSANE happy

[molten loom]

Now we need a fairy to instantly kill it

[weak trellis]

also one of the rare defensive darks too so nice on that

[fathom ridge]

ITS VIKAVOVER AND THIS TIME FOR REAL

[weak trellis]

but also has dragon dance for lategame komedy

[full bison]

I'm down for both Nihilego and Poipole but I'm trying to be at least a little realistic

[silent acorn]

A bit underwhelming on the reveal

[fathom ridge]

ah well next year i will campaign harder

[ember bear]

also there's no gen 4 mon added if that counts for something

[silent acorn]

But oh well its an Unovan mon i cant complain

[fathom ridge]

yeah ngl, at least its not kommo o

[coral axle]

Sadge

[hardy tartan]

… never seen it

[fathom ridge]

guys there hasnt been a troll mon yet

[full bison]

If the big reveal is gonna be next week, I'm predicting Scrafty won't be the only big reveal

[silent acorn]

Sad timeline i live in

[ocean lark]

i hope the remaining 3 are all legendary/mythical

[tacit saddle]

i hope we get furfrou...

[fathom ridge]

whats a good one slot troll mon?

[tacit saddle]

[twin moth]

Buh bye grubbin line....

[molten loom]

I think you have and blocked it out of your memory

[full bison]

Alomomola

[molten loom]

I remember you in chat when it was posted once

[full bison]

or it could be Phione as a package deal with Manaphy

[silent acorn]

Ludicolo was more "eh whatever"

[fathom ridge]

oh god, luvdisc

[molten loom]

Ludicolo was a surprise

[silent acorn]

Atleast Scrafty is from my home region

[twin moth]

Bait

[silent acorn]

Not really, kinda expect it

There is just nostalgia on that one

[fathom ridge]

honestly all the reveals havent been to exiting for me since golisopod

[coral axle]

Torkoal has cool fusions

[twin moth]

Could make some fun fusion

[silent acorn]

Not really that surprised when it happened

[fathom ridge]

true ngl

[full bison]

Scrafty's cool. The punk theme will lead to some awesome fusions

[coral axle]

Ludicolo and Scrafty are eh for me

[silent acorn]

I dug Torkoal more

[silent acorn]

Atleast Scrafty is Dark/Fighting, kinda whack lizard

[full bison]

We did need more Dark types

[tacit saddle]

torkoal has cool fusions
ludicolo line was cool to me but did we need more grass

[molten loom]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message

[tacit saddle]

golisopod was a WIN.

[full bison]

And hey, we got Shed Skin on something that isn't terrible

[molten loom]

This gif

[tender plank]

what the hell.

[tacit saddle]

what the fuck 😭

[coral axle]

Lmfao

[full bison]

Rule 2?

[coral axle]

It’s literally a canon animation

Where a scraggy fights a mimikyu I think

[silent acorn]

I dont quite care about it since it has quite broad spread but its a good ability

[hardy tartan]

I’ll look when I have a better wifi connection

[silent acorn]

!rule2

How was the format for this again?

[full bison]

Shed Skin, Moxie, and Intimidate. Dang, not a single bad ability choice on ol' Scrafty

[molten loom]

?tag rule2

[opal trail]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 2 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Nudity/Sex/Anything NSFW. This shouldn't really need to be said, since this is a server dedicated to Pokémon, but here we are. This means no pornography or anything of the like. No NSFW names/avatars, no NSFW conversations, no suggestive emotes, no sexualizing Pokémon or other people, and absolutely no mentions of anything horny whatsoever, even as a joke.

[silent acorn]

Ok moxie we talking and intimidate is always solid

[coral axle]

It’s literally a canon animation I can’t

Made by the company

[hardy tartan]

Oh. Some Warner brothers silliness

[coral axle]

It looks stupid af but it’s not nsfw at all lmao

[silent acorn]

Welp i got called for it but i didn't do it, anyway get the mod attention

?tag Rule2

[coral axle]

Bruh

[opal trail]

No tag Rule2 found.

[hardy tartan]

Lower case

[simple gulch]

WE GOT PANT

[molten loom]

Skill issue at this point

[tender plank]

nah man, let's talk about that gif

[silent acorn]

I leave it that to the mods

[trail hull]

rule 2 is the only rule withotu a tag

[tender plank]

why did you post it

[coral axle]

I’m sure it’s not a huge deal

[hardy tartan]

We were pantsless before

[trail hull]

because people kept spammign the tag

[molten loom]

We got pant with lurantis

[silent acorn]

Huh didn't see it was you Notto

[trail hull]

?tag rule2

[opal trail]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 2 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Nudity/Sex/Anything NSFW. This shouldn't really need to be said, since this is a server dedicated to Pokémon, but here we are. This means no pornography or anything of the like. No NSFW names/avatars, no NSFW conversations, no suggestive emotes, no sexualizing Pokémon or other people, and absolutely no mentions of anything horny whatsoever, even as a joke.

[silent acorn]

Eh i dont use it all the time

[trail hull]

oh nevermind

[coral axle]

Oml

[silent acorn]

Didnt work anyway

Psh

Doesn't work for me anywah :v

[coral axle]

All over a stupid cartoony gif

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/lurantis-gif-25238733

[silent acorn]

Move along

Anyway

[coral axle]

LOL

[silent acorn]

Scrafty is kinda neat

Not what i would call peak but its fine

[simple gulch]

:v i wonder 💭 of frog gonna add the winner choice mon

[silent acorn]

Not gonna lie i kinda don't dig Ludicolo because like we got several grass at this point, water is ultra common and to me its just not that unique for fusing

[next flare]

Winner of what?
Mons from the second raffle?

[silent acorn]

Like ok you like because it was fun

[fathom ridge]

tropius?

[simple gulch]

the winner pick list

[silent acorn]

But boyo be real, its quite limited for fusing because it originally was a fusion of things

[simple gulch]

:v some one pick tropius so maybe

[silent acorn]

4 plant and then we call it

[simple gulch]

maybe he ill add the pelicant too

thats all the mon

[hardy tartan]

Trollpius

[silent acorn]

"Touch Grass Update"

[hardy tartan]

“Put on some pants and touch grass “

[next flare]

[trail hull]

okay so assuming we don't get a legendary , there's still chance for one last 3 stage line

[deft obsidian]

Imagine we get shiftry after ludicolo

[silent acorn]

I wonder if thats why they been picking so much grass?

[coral axle]

I want all of these except Pelipper

[silent acorn]

I wouldnt count on it honestly

[molten loom]

Dang you stole my joke

[tender plank]

honestly the mon i think has the most chance which i like the most is crawdaunt maybe? 3rd place in that wheel thing, 2 stage so it'd fit well to adding a last mythical, really makes you think huh

[fathom ridge]

there is also the obligatory troll mon

[full bison]

I'm down for Pelliper cause that'd be easy rain access

[silent acorn]

To be real Mienshao was a really good one here

[fathom ridge]

also simispark is confirmed for the last slots so like its over fr

[coral axle]

Any of those + tropius would be neat

[silent acorn]

Its also usually common so it won't be too hard to find

[deft obsidian]

Yea I just like mienshao on that list

[trail hull]

and it will be my beloved luvdisc

[full bison]

I dunno why but this game has made me fall in love with Weather teams

[silent acorn]

Synergy

[full bison]

Def making a Sun team when the update drops

[trail hull]

oh it's been a month already wow

[silent acorn]

Since your teams choices are only limited by your imagination

[bitter comet]

New fighting type!

[hardy tartan]

(I’d prefer three troll picks than three legendaries)
(That’s just me though)

[fathom ridge]

yeah it has a big chance, cus its one slot and there would be more space for another

[trail hull]

like gogoat line+luvdisc

[silent acorn]

I bet it will be tropius

At the rate of Grass we been getting

[fathom ridge]

is frogman insane enough to put luvdisc as the 500th mon?

[molten loom]

We get the 3 monkeys without their evos

[full bison]

Three legendaries would either be Zygarde being added solo, the Swords of Justice, or the Lake Trio. No other group would only take up 3 slots

[hardy tartan]

Bruxish

[craggy nexus]

Unfortunally yes

[molten loom]

Yes

[silent acorn]

Man drampa or Furfrou would be so sweet for the one stage though...

[trail hull]

he was insane enough to end the update (when it was said we would never get new mon) with stunfisk

so why not

[deft obsidian]

I wish tropius was strong
It's so useless even in playthrough

[fathom ridge]

i wonder if frog is reading this ||hi frog||

[full bison]

I feel bad for the poor spriters that would be tasked with making the Lake Trio have body fusions that are all distinct from one another

[vague oar]

Finally, a fighting type

[trail hull]

||hi frog , add ludisc or else ||

[hardy tartan]

Gonna say it’s looking unlikely for binacle 😔

[vague oar]

It has always been

[hardy tartan]

🐸: Or else what?

[trail hull]

else

[tender plank]

||hi frog can you consider tirtouga for next next pretty please. it doesn't have to be one of the last 3 mons i can wait a year||

[full bison]

Give me liberty

Give me fire

[vague oar]

Im still waiting for Pangoro, Walrein, Toxicroak, Drapion, Camerupt and Tropius

[fathom ridge]

I wonder if we will get another batch of new mons next year, if so im doing a spritework team for the car battery

[full bison]

Give me tough claws or I retire

[trail hull]

||I love how we're all starting to talk to frog with this thing||

[silent acorn]

An one most spriters wanted

[silent acorn]

Binacle only way

[bitter comet]

Hope the next mon is either Eelektross or Vikavolt

[fathom ridge]

||idk if frog is seeing this tbh ||

[tender plank]

it's subliminal messaging ||hiiiii||

[deft obsidian]

Damn I kinda don't care about new pokemons,delphox was awesome though

[trail hull]

||I know that he loosk at it but how much and how many s a mystery||

[full bison]

I love how we already have some Scraggy fusions on #1050404143807873157 and people are so confident they're getting added that they're not being tagged Non-IF

Like, it's technically not confirmed yet

[fathom ridge]

im surprised (in a good way) that there are more delphox sprites than braixen sprites

[fathom ridge]

they are tho

[tender plank]

what

they are???

[west sonnet]

Yeah!

[fathom ridge]

#announcements message

[silent acorn]

Kinda looks like a mix of Anya and Undine

[trail hull]

if this isn't a confirmation then what is this?

[tender plank]

unless this is a coping mechanism then sure ig

[full bison]

Nvm then

[deft obsidian]

Lmao

[full bison]

Wizard motif just adds alot I guess

[trail hull]

okay since scrafty lien relese time for the sprite stats (thi is goign to be a logn message)

[silent acorn]

Dude Delphox is the most fixable pokemon ever

Improvable

[fathom ridge]

delphox body fusions rock

i need to do a delphox fusion

[full bison]

Part of me wants to make a Clefable/Delphox fusion that references Rennala but I'm not that confident in my art yet lol

[coarse karma]

OMG JSUT SAW THE ANNOUNCMENT scraggy!! yay

[west sonnet]

Oooh yay

[silent acorn]

There is no vileplume/delphox...

[fathom ridge]

you know what ill add this to de to-do list

[silent acorn]

Petal head wizard hat

[elfin goblet]

we need to make a hoodlumscrafty alt with the charzard line

[silent acorn]

Cipher made a badass Monster Hunter one

[fathom ridge]

WAIT
ODDISH WITH PANTS

[trail hull]

Jangmo-o:116
Hakamo-o:60
Kommo-o:136
Fomantis:83
Lurantis:205
Wimpod:68
Golisopod:121
Carbink:446
Chespin:106
Quilladin:54
Chesnaught:98
Fennekin:109
Braixen:90
Delphox:187
Froakie:79
Frogadier:41
Greninja:137
Torkoal:144
Pumpkaboo:171
Gourgeist:209
Swirlix:103
Slurpuff:258
Scraggy:0
Scrafty:0
Lotad:36
Lombre:31
Ludicolo:24

[fathom ridge]

carbink has 446?

[trail hull]

yes

[full bison]

RIP Frogadier LOL

[trail hull]

thi doesn't include alt

[hardy tartan]

People like the binkmeister

[full bison]

I thought Quilladin would have it the worst but I guess not

[trail hull]

like if there was more then one sprite in a psot it doesn't count

[marble meadow]

bruh imagine diancie then

[trail hull]

so the most peoductive mons are : carbink , delphox, slurpuff,gourgeist

[fathom ridge]

glad to se kommo o doing poorly ❤️|| /j||

[elfin goblet]

hes pretty with a unieqc typing

[coral axle]

Crying

[bitter comet]

Where is Golisopod and wimpod?

[full bison]

Gourgeist will be super fun due to it's size gimmick making it equally viable as a head or body so either way of fusing it would be effective

Scrafty kinda has that too due to having equal Def and SpDef

[trail hull]

I forgot them

[hardy tartan]

I’m gonna become a kommo-o spriter just to spite you

[coral axle]

Same

Except I can’t sprite so I will just make concept art

I love kommo-o

[trail hull]

added them

[fathom ridge]

whats your least favorite new mon?||I actulally think kommo o fusions look pretty cool ||

[full bison]

I like Kommo-o too but I'm not confident enough to draw those lol

[unkempt kernel]

Damn, scarfty line kinda cool, makes sense actually to be added, now we pray for pachi

[fathom ridge]

i have to be honest, 80 percent of why i dislike kommo o is just bc is funny to hate it

[hardy tartan]

🤔 of the new ones? Maybe the lotad line, but it’s not like a strong dislike or anything

[trail hull]

I made these two and never again (also they are in the latest spritepack)

[dim sparrow]

here us my list so far lol

[bitter comet]

Man, I have the same dislike. Good to know that I’m not alone.

[obsidian berry]

3 slots left right

[trail hull]

what is your criteria for disliek for the game?

[obsidian berry]

Kalos Legends is my prediction but I really hope we get minior

[dim sparrow]

they dont add anything or arent good for spriting

[fathom ridge]

you dislike the pumpkin

[silent acorn]

Thats also a good idea. Gloom just looks plain emo

[dim sparrow]

i almost conisdered putting slurpuff in neutral for the game because everyone only uses its horrible smogon palette

[dim sparrow]

only the evo

[trail hull]

carbink has the most sprites of the new mons

[bitter comet]

Imagine if we get 3 one stage mons . Minior, Cryogenal and a legendary/mythical

[fathom ridge]

fair but the fusions go hard

[dim sparrow]

yeah thats why its in like for the game

[silent acorn]

Damn brutal on my Boy Guzma

But

Life

Says

[obsidian berry]

Diancie minior and tropius please

[hardy tartan]

🤔tbh, I wonder if my least liked for fusion potential might be cubchoo and beartic
Because a personal dislike for snot and saliva

[fathom ridge]

also why is goli bad for the game?

[silent acorn]

"The people have spoken"

[bitter comet]

Man, at first, I was disappointed that carbink got added, but then all the spriters prove me me wrong.

[inland jewel]

LFG Scraggy

fighting types be winning

[bitter comet]

Seriously, everyone cooked with those sprites

[unkempt kernel]

And grass too

[fathom ridge]

why are kommo o pre evos so high

[hardy tartan]

pita to sprite?

[dim sparrow]

every sprite I see is just the smogon base because people don't want to sprite so much detail that doesn't fit in the canvas

[silent acorn]

Yeah those are the plainiest pre evos i could imagine

[dim sparrow]

because I like them personally

but for in the game they are just meh

[silent acorn]

I see you like dry paint then

[trail hull]

carbink is a solid pick and is easier to do body wise

[fathom ridge]

well i did a goli sprite and i havent die so i think anyone can do it ||since im really not that good at spriting ||

[bitter comet]

That is true. I heard he is hard to sprite

[dim sparrow]

like jangmo is cute and hakamo is i like it too but for the game they are generic bodies that dont add much

[trail hull]

also it allows a lot of freedom body wise with the gem that ca be replaced

[fathom ridge]

yeah the cristals went hard

[silent acorn]

Lemme be real

[bitter comet]

Like I am going to do an all carbink run when the update comes out

[silent acorn]

The MVPs of the new additions are Delphox, Greninja, Carbink and Slurpuff

[dim sparrow]

i probably let me being dissapointed by carbink influence it's location ngl
even tho it is ''for the game'' adn not ''personally''

[silent acorn]

Just so many good ideas all throughout

[ember bear]

"carbink has no potential" 400 fucking sprites:

[silent acorn]

500 natural bst on a single stager

[dim sparrow]

honestly I never expected the chespin line to be as good as i ended up finding them

[silent acorn]

Rare type

[fathom ridge]

which carbink/torterra will you choose?

[dusty arrow]

oh ahit, scrafty?

thats pretty cool

[hardy tartan]

Honestly? I think klink and klang are really bad
How the hell do you differentiate a klang head from a klinklang head?
I can definitely see how klinklang got in first due to assumed Pokémon limits

[dim sparrow]

i made one carbink but i dont like it

[dusty arrow]

a non dragon type with dragon dance

[silent acorn]

Hard question. One is more realistic the other is aesthethic as hell

[silent acorn]

Its ok

[bitter comet]

The second

[fathom ridge]

i made 3 and i dont like any of them

[sharp sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/durant-pokemondurant-durantpokemon-gif-25315615

[silent acorn]

Its pretty good

[unkempt kernel]

I agree mostly with the list but i'd put evo lines together so For me Fomantis and Gourgeist would go in top tier and Kommo-o would go into middle tier

[dim sparrow]

I like them personally bc they are silly but for the game yeah they dont add anything onsidering klinklang exists

[hardy tartan]

Hence why I don’t give much truck to the whiners

[bitter comet]

Man, remember that carbink long neck Dino(I can’t remember the name of it) fusion?

That was a complete banger

[fathom ridge]

no it really isnt a hard question

[dim sparrow]

aurorus?

[bitter comet]

Yes

[sharp sphinx]

I thought it had potential just worried that potential was redundnant to diancie which is yet to be disproven

[unkempt kernel]

I'd probs put the scrafty line in mid tier too, neutral for both

[sharp sphinx]

be happy to be wrong though

[bitter comet]

I think he is a goober.

[dim sparrow]

out of all the new mons the only ones i have made more than 0 or 1 sprite for are Lurantis and Braixen
i made 3 lurantis appareantly dang

[cobalt river]

carbonkers stay winnin

[hardy tartan]

😔alas!

[fathom ridge]

kommo o probably has potential for more than the 100 fusions it has ngl, but its just a pain to sprite and it isnt particularly cool when compared to other hard mons

[unkempt kernel]

[bitter comet]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that epic scoliosis centipede fusion!

[fathom ridge]

ah yes those are some

[bitter comet]

Just a silly regal goober ❤️

[fathom ridge]

how would have thought the person who has carbink in their name would win the carbink contest

[cobalt river]

id been training

[dim sparrow]

me when kommo-o + small body pokemon meaning it is basically impossible to fit all the details but want to try anyways

[cobalt river]

that turned out very cute though

[bitter comet]

Another goober

[fleet ore]

That's so cute! It's fused with ?

[fathom ridge]

that sprite looks so detailed :0

[fathom ridge]

@willow axle

[willow axle]

mystora

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[Link to message](#pif-hoenn-discussion message)

me when kommo-o + small body pokemon meaning it is basically impossible to fit all the details but want to try anyways <:Quagless:1277334887178702959>

[dim sparrow]

thanl :>

oh copy pasting removes everything behind the dot

[fathom ridge]

sandshrew

[fleet ore]

Hope Sandslash gets a cool sprite too

[dim sparrow]

didnt know the fusion bot worked here lol

[rain locust]

[dim sparrow]

poor sandslash has like no sprites

[hardy tartan]

Real talk: I’m trying to work on a klang/talonflame sprite because if you fuse them at a similar level, you’re gonna have an autogen for a huge chunk of your playthrough
Klang/fletchinder has a custom; klinklang/talonflame has a custom
But the evo levels don’t align 😔
(Encountered something similar with feraligatr/deino)

[fallen loom]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSS!!!! FINAAAALLLLLYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!

[hardy tartan]

Sandshrew?

[bitter comet]

I hope for Eelektross next

He is a spooky goober

Perfect for the spooky month

[full bison]

I'm still thinking slot 500 is a mythical and the other 2 will either be two unrelated 1-slotters or a 2-stage line

[dim sparrow]

sandshrew yes

[bitter comet]

If it is two unrelated 1 slotters I hope it’s minior and cryogenal

[hardy tartan]

Luvdisc and alomomola

[steel meadow]

So what youre saying is that its technically not gogover?

[fathom ridge]

are you happy for pants lizard?

[dim sparrow]

i made a lot of sandshrews

[cobalt river]

i keep thinknin shaymin would be one slot but i guess itd be two huh darn

[fallen loom]

2 lines I really wanted are in this time! Scraggy was my no. 2 pick!

[hardy tartan]

Nor barbaraclover

[fathom ridge]

and no. 1?

[fallen loom]

Binacle

[fathom ridge]

wait fr

[fallen loom]

Tough Claws

[dim sparrow]

i sadly think it is swoover tho 😔

[steel meadow]

Scraggy wasnt my prefered fighting type but im happy with it

[fathom ridge]

barbaracle will be the troll slot, and the minior will be 500

[steel meadow]

The other part of this is what i really wanted

[bitter comet]

Any fighting type is a fighting type

[hardy tartan]

If shaymin gets in on someone’s 100% gonna do a Basil (from Omori) sprite, aren’t they

[bitter comet]

And even though I wanted Meinshao to be that fighting type, I’m still glad we got a new fighting tape

[steel meadow]

Mienshao, pangoro, scrafty and toxicroak was all good choices

[fallen loom]

if Tough Claws gets in without Binacle, then Scraggy was my no. 1 pick

[fathom ridge]

toxicroac was my go-to fighting type

[dim sparrow]

I don't like most of the fighting types in general and im not sure why

[bitter comet]

I think because they are mostly just people

That’s my personal reason anyway

[dim sparrow]

they are coincidentally all just pokemon i dont really like i guess

[steel meadow]

Too humanoid?

[fathom ridge]

maybe the yellow and red colours

[fallen loom]

a lot of Fighting Types are so ugly TBH

[steel meadow]

I like ugly guys

Well some of them

[dim sparrow]

maybe ig
though i dont mind humanoid designs it just needs to be done well
so not jynx

or conkeldurr

[steel meadow]

Im a humanoid hater most of the time

[bitter comet]

Man, what happens when frog adds all the Pokémon that are able to be added to the game?

[steel meadow]

Unless theyre clearly more animal

[hardy tartan]

Bulbapedia says that was the reason behind mienshao
A fan wrote in expressing disappointment that all the Fighting types were humanoids

[fathom ridge]

some cool fighters are breelom, heracross, bewear, toxicroac, my boy koraidon, sirfetch, etc.

[hardy tartan]

He adds in his own fakemon

[unique flame]

why frog didnt provide the base sprite in the anouncements this time

[bitter comet]

Like will this game just be abandoned by him?

[steel meadow]

Breloom is my favorite pokemon

[unique flame]

i cltr c cltr v from there

[fathom ridge]

game freak adds more pokemon than frog per year

[steel meadow]

I mean at some point he is bound to drop this project

[fathom ridge]

actually how many pokemon do we get per year on average?

[outer matrix]

What if there was a contest to make a design for simispark to use in IF?

[fathom ridge]

and the winner decides pokemon 500

[steel meadow]

Like frog isnt going to be a old man and code for this game still

[bitter comet]

Hard to say there’s only been two years of frequent mon additions

[fathom ridge]

i would fail vikavolt so hard

[fathom ridge]

i mean new official pokemon

[bitter comet]

Ah

[hardy tartan]

Old frog

[hardy tartan]

Hopefully allow someone to fork it and make a supported version going forward 🤞

[fathom ridge]

probably

[bitter comet]

Corvknight man, let’s hope this doesn’t take like 30 or 20 years

[fathom ridge]

i think the game could be shut down before then tbh

[fathom ridge]

i think we could have all gen3-7 mons in like... 10 years?

[bitter comet]

I might be dead by then/hj

And even if I’m not dead, my life will be over/hj

[fathom ridge]

statitically some of the people how are active in the server now will be dead by then

[bitter comet]

R.I.P

💀

[fathom ridge]

dont worry im also waiting for smoliv

[bitter comet]

And I will be forever be waiting for Corvknight the best bird

[hardy tartan]

We are gathered here today to pay respects to the dead and eventual dead

[fathom ridge]

corviknight is badass, tinkaton kills him for fun tho

[bitter comet]

Aren’t we all the eventual dead?

[bitter comet]

I shall smite the pink goblin

[hardy tartan]

Memento Mori

[clear lichen]

No need, Corviknight just 1v1s Tinkaton

[marble meadow]

still holding on for malamar and if not with those new additions i will do a few runs

[clear lichen]

Tinkaton doesn't even learn rock throw how does it throw rocks

[fathom ridge]

smh not lore accurate

[clear lichen]

It can barely hurt Corviknight

The dex lies

[outer matrix]

No tinkaton fusions

[clear lichen]

Was it written by a Tinkaton?

[fallen loom]

39/46 Dragon Types (84.78%)
37/44 Ghost Types (84.09%)
46/64 Ground Types (71.88%)
47/66 Poison Types (71.21%)
34/49 Steel Types (69.39%)
42/61 Rock Types (68.85%)
42/64 Fire Types (65.63%)
58/97 Grass Types (59.84%)
28/47 Fairy Types (59.57%)
78/131 Water Types (59.54%)
60/101 Flying Types (59.41%)
20/34 Ice Types (58.82%)
28/48 Dark Types (58.33%)
28/49 Electric Types (57.14%)
47/84 Psychic Types (55.95%)
59/112 Normal Types (52.68%)
28/56 Fighting Types (50%)
38/77 Bug Types (49.35%)

[bitter comet]

I’m also waiting for centiskorch

He is a cool bug

One of my favorite bugs

[outer matrix]

not even a clown tinkaton?

[hardy tartan]

Today we honor you - all of you - because you will be the dead too, eventually

[bitter comet]

R.I.P 💀💀💀

[bitter comet]

Yes

[marble meadow]

only up to gen 7

[clear lichen]

Darn, can't believe Tinkaton would lie about its own capabilities

What kind of monster would do such a thing

[bitter comet]

I know we are just hoping/coping

[hardy tartan]

A pocket monster

[marble meadow]

zygarde for the remaining 3 slots

[clear lichen]

Clearly not all of them

[fallen loom]

Bug is the only type with less than 50% of them as of Gen 7 in the game

[bitter comet]

That is because there are so many bugs

[clear lichen]

I still don't get judging based off percentage instead of number

Like idk about you, but Fairy types are a lot rarer than Water types

Water types are easily the most common, actually

[full bison]

Quite a few tho

[fallen loom]

because it makes Ice seem rarer otherwise

[full bison]

Like how Escavalier and Vikavolt are so incredibly fast guys

[fallen loom]

78/131 Water Types (59.54%)
60/101 Flying Types (59.41%)
59/112 Normal Types (52.68%)
58/97 Grass Types (56.7%)
47/66 Poison Types (71.21%)
47/84 Psychic Types (60.71%)
46/64 Ground Types (71.88%)
42/64 Fire Types (65.63%)
42/61 Rock Types (68.85%)
39/46 Dragon Types (84.78%)
38/77 Bug Types (49.35%)
37/44 Ghost Types (84.09%)
34/49 Steel Types (69.39%)
28/48 Dark Types (58.33%)
28/49 Electric Types (57.14%)
28/47 Fairy Types (59.57%)
28/56 Fighting Types (50%)
20/34 Ice Types (58.82%)

[hardy tartan]

Yes? That’s exactly why you evaluate based on percentage, yeah?

[clear lichen]

That just means Ice is the rarest type

[marble meadow]

isn,t excellgor faster

[fallen loom]

Yes, but most good Bugs aren't in the game and it's mostly just trashy Gen 1+2 Bugs

[clear lichen]

Sure, it also has the lowest total

[bitter comet]

I wonder why frog doesn’t think gen 8+ is canon

[clear lichen]

But that just means Ice as a whole is rare

[bronze barn]

wow water types are really underpresented

[bitter comet]

I know the plot for those games sucks

But there are some cool mons

[full bison]

Ice being the rarest type when it's been around since the beginning when compared to a type that was only added over a decade into the series lifespan is... wow

[clear lichen]

SV's plot is top 2, arguably top 1

Though uhh

That's not saying a lot

[hardy tartan]

Because if there are more water types to pick from, of course there are going to be more of them

[bitter comet]

Oh, it is I haven’t really played it though

[clear lichen]

Pokemon's plot kinda just

Sucks

[bitter comet]

That is true

[clear lichen]

As a whole

SV's is definitely not sucky

[full bison]

BW's is pretty solid

[bitter comet]

Really need to play that game

[clear lichen]

So by default that puts it extremely high up for a Pokemon game

[stoic canopy]

Not the dark type I wanted but I’m glad he’s here.

[bitter comet]

What was the dark type you wanted?

[stoic canopy]

Pamchan

[bitter comet]

Oh cool

[clear lichen]

I dont struggle with glitches in SV, to this day I still can't see eye to eye with people claiming SV is buggier than RBY (??? Lmfao)

[stoic canopy]

Or seedot

[fallen loom]

Pancham is Fighting only

[clear lichen]

Pangoro isn't

[fallen loom]

Seedot is Grass only

[clear lichen]

Same Pokemon line

[full bison]

I've had SV crash on me several times

[hardy tartan]

The evos gain Dark typing

[stoic canopy]

It’s evos aren’t

[clear lichen]

I literally only see people complain about SV's bugs

[full bison]

Anyone else hear about that story of the fish who were playing Pokemon SV that ended up committing credit card fraud?

[fallen loom]

I really wanted Nebby line, since Necrozma made it in last time

[clear lichen]

That's like the only complaint I see

[hollow creek]

I guess we arent getting sprites for scafto, onto pokemon database i go

[clear lichen]

Heck, it's the only thing I see in general

So I have 0 clue how I didn't struggle at all with glitches

[fallen loom]

Most of the complaints are for version 1.0 bugs too

[clear lichen]

And it just sounds so damn overexaggerated

[clear lichen]

I played since release so I'd assume I'd have had to contend with those bugs

[fallen loom]

most are with co-op though

[marble meadow]

im still suprised that poision ice only can exist in if also seviper zanggose would be neat

[stoic canopy]

And the big bug tend to only show up on multiplayer so I basically ran into none of them.

[clear lichen]

Ah that explains it

I cant buy Nintendo Online

Without breaking the law

So that's probably why I'm not struggling with bugs

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/zangoose-seviper-pokemon-gif-18114815995010367874

[full bison]

Some guy in Japan had set up a rig that had fish decide game inputs, set them to play SV, the game crashed, and they ended up logging into the Eshop and buying Xenoblade with the guy's credit card

[clear lichen]

Lmao

[fallen loom]

fishy tastes

[bitter comet]

But still, why doesn’t see gen 8+ as canon?

Was he just joking?

I hope he was

[fallen loom]

I like some Gen 8 mon, but sadly those are the ones that didn't get into SV

[clear lichen]

... If most of the bugs are only on the first version of SV, doesn't that make all the complaints redundant and stupid?

[fallen loom]

yes

[clear lichen]

Or most of them at least

[stoic canopy]

Yep

[bitter comet]

Quick question am I the only one who likes sandaconda?

[clear lichen]

Probably not

I kinda like it too ngl

[full bison]

There's an argument to be had about how a game releasing that glitchy shouldnt be an acceptable thing

[clear lichen]

It's like a mid-high B tier imo

[bitter comet]

He was my first G-max that I found and caught so my memories might be tainted lol

[fallen loom]

I don't like how it looks like it can only roll in circles and is based off of a disabled snake breed

[full bison]

Toxtricity is pretty cool

[clear lichen]

Gmax Sandaconda is a living fucking sandstorm with a shotgun head that's nice

[bitter comet]

Agreed

[full bison]

But Gen 8 also has stuff like Eldegoss, AKA TEMU Whimsicott

[bitter comet]

Hell yeah, I wish I could see some fusion bases for that

[bitter comet]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that thing

[fallen loom]

GMad Sandaconda is way better and it sucks how many good designs were one-and-done with SwSh

[stoic canopy]

On one hand I agree, on the other hand if a giltchy game can become good over time I think that’s a net positive.

[bitter comet]

I know man

[clear lichen]

I really like Eternatus

[bitter comet]

Yeah, that is a bad ass legendary

[fallen loom]

Eldegoss was goinig to be in SV, since there is trainer data for it. I think Hoppip got in instead

[full bison]

good

[clear lichen]

I dont see many people talk about it but when they do it's usually negative

[dusty arrow]

all of the jumpluff line are silly mfs

[clear lichen]

And I'm not entirely sure why

[full bison]

Eternatus is pretty neat

[stoic canopy]

I’d like Eternatus on paper, in game he was barely important or had any impact on the story

[dusty arrow]

ive never really cared for eternatus outside of "lmao 1000 bst"

[clear lichen]

Eternatus seems like it'd be a nightmare to sprite though ngl

[full bison]

but I'm not the biggest fan of how it literally only exists as an explanation behind Dynamax

[bitter comet]

Maybe they’re just mad we can’t use that g-max form it has

[fallen loom]

I'd like Eternatus more if we ever got to use its EMax form

[bitter comet]

Same

It was a bad ass design

[clear lichen]

As a competitive player

Hell fucking no

[full bison]

Terapagos has the same problem where it has basically no presence besides "this is why Tera happens LOL"

[dusty arrow]

for some reason, i used to think that alpha pokemon and totem pokemon from sm/usum were related somehow

[ember bear]

yeah that thing single handedly ruined pure hackmons

[dusty arrow]

or the.. i forgot their names, but the yellow ones in pla

[fallen loom]

in Gen 7 we got 2 3rd version legendaries (one from XY) with multiple forms, so Eternatus feels like it was alwasy missing something with only having a regular and boss-exclusive form

[clear lichen]

It's funny how Eternatus is tied for my favourite Gen 8 Pokemon with (kinda) Palkia-O and... Frosmoth

[ember bear]

frosmoth is peak!

[clear lichen]

World ending threat, God of Space and a frost moth

[dusty arrow]

one of these things is not like the other

frosmoth is great though

[bitter comet]

Silly bug

[clear lichen]

True

[bitter comet]

Outside of the regional bug GEN eight had cool bugs

[dusty arrow]

i want a frosmoth evo with better speed and also snow warning mixed eith ice scales lmao

[ember bear]

i like snom too but i have to admit that it takes way too much attention from the evo

[bitter comet]

But I didn’t like the regional bug

[full bison]

Terapagos is such a huge disappointment because all it's there for is Kieran crashing out and breaking out of a masterball for an incredibly bland final boss

[clear lichen]

Frosmoth is definitely a Pokemon I wish could get in but I know is copium

[dusty arrow]

orbeetles actuslly pretty cool

[fallen loom]

Totem mon are likely what the locals called their Alpha mon

[clear lichen]

Frosmoth/Volcarona would be so cool

[dusty arrow]

its stats are just kind of

yknow

[bitter comet]

Fire and ice theme

[dusty arrow]

ass

[full bison]

Psychic/Bug, what an amazing type combo

[fallen loom]

who what's better, Orbeetle or Ledian?

[full bison]

Orbeetle

By a long shot

[dusty arrow]

i have always liked ledian tbh

[ember bear]

no idea about orbeetle viability but ledian is just

ledian

[dusty arrow]

i think its design is cool despite its stats

[ember bear]

so yeah orbeetle is probably better

[fallen loom]

Ledian looks like a sentai, but sucks and it's the only Bug type one until Lokix

[dusty arrow]

ledian deserves an evolution

[ember bear]

or just a buff

[bitter comet]

Man, I’m gonna be sad that we are never going to have missing Evos from generation 8+

[dusty arrow]

maybe evolves with a lokix inthe party, and vice versa with lokix?

[dusty arrow]

didnt ledian bet a buff in gen 6?

[full bison]

I remember seeing a clip in a Moxie Boosted video where a Level 100 Ledian hit a Level 78 Kekleon with an Iron Fist Drain Punch and it still didn't OHKO

[clear lichen]

I prefer Orbeetle

And undoubtedly, it is far better in battle

[dusty arrow]

orbeetles shiny is really good

[clear lichen]

Because Ledian

[ember bear]

well whatever it was it was not enough

[clear lichen]

Is Ledian

[bitter comet]

Like those are cool

[dusty arrow]

can someone send an image of shiny ledian?

[clear lichen]

252+ Atk Iron Fist Ledian Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Chien-Pao: 244-288 (81 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Like come on bro

[dusty arrow]

i have a cool idea for a ledian evo tbh

[fallen loom]

https://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/90/Spr_B2W2_Future_Being_Ledian.png

[clear lichen]

Literal 80/80 bulk mon with a quad Fighting weakness

[full bison]

That's just sad

[clear lichen]

And it isn't OHKOd

[trail hull]

Wow we’re already at 526k it feels like yesterday when we reached 500k

[clear lichen]

Why does Ledian have Iron Fist when it has 35 attack

[fallen loom]

does that mean we get another 26 slots?

[full bison]

Imagine a Mega Ledian where it just dumps the entire 100 boost into Attack

[dusty arrow]

loses the flying type for a more special oriented type
ability that replaces iron fist: master of elements, boosts moves that are flying, grass/ground, ice/water, and flying by 20% (based off the greek elements being fire, air, earth, and water)

thats my ledian idea-

[ember bear]

mega beedril 2

[dusty arrow]

each of its fists are representing a different element

[full bison]

And to think Ledian has the audacity to call itself the "Five Star" Pokemon

[clear lichen]

You listed Flying twice instead of fire and flying

[fallen loom]

more like "No Star"

[ember bear]

five refers to the average amount of hp that the targets lose

[fallen loom]

lol

[dusty arrow]

i would say, lose some of its 120 spdef and whatever special attack it has, dump it into speed, and then put the 100 stat boost into attack

and then give it a better ability, or just fucking buff iron fist to a 50% boost..

[fallen loom]

no, give it an even worse Ability

[marble meadow]

audino blissey would be a tanky fusion

[dusty arrow]

we are talking about a mega evolution grip

we wre trying to make ledian better

[dusty arrow]

would just make a worse blissey tbh

stat wise

[clear lichen]

🔥

[dusty arrow]

true

give it an abiloty thats gorilla tactics for speed

it would be funny

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-zygarde-pokémon-pokémon-legends-za-kalos-gif-6843721612711664659

[ember bear]

this will be the average stat spread in gen 13

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ledian-pokemon-amie-gif-22966523

this has motivated me to do a ledian only run

well, ledian fusion run

i also gotta start my ghost mono-run for halloween-

[dusty arrow]

oh ledian has a decent speed stat actually

...hm

[viral pawn]

sometimes i think they just messed up the coding and it was supposed to have 110 attack and 35 sp def

[dusty arrow]

that would be

arguably worse

[viral pawn]

mistyped meant attack

[dusty arrow]

oh wait

ok yeah that might be decent with a scarf set.. until 100 speed begins to feel slow

fix this

[full bison]

Moxie Boosted really described Ledian best. "It's like Gamefreak just pulled random numbers out of a hat, then when they got to 110 Special Defense they thought"let's cut it's other stats in half, I don't want this to be broken.""

[outer matrix]

well, ledian is an early route bug, soo...

[ember bear]

vikavolt is an early bug too

[full bison]

So is Scolipede and it's perfectly usable

[dusty arrow]

ehhh....

oops

meant to reply to the vikavolt one

scolipede is peak

[dusty arrow]

ehh..

the problem with that is uhh..

[ember bear]

well ig the evo method is kinda eh

[dusty arrow]

in sm you can evolve him until the last island lmao

[outer matrix]

Evolves really late on the last island

[dusty arrow]

i need a good ledian base

[full bison]

Thank the heavens that USUM changed the magnetic area to that one geothermal plant area

[dusty arrow]

i wanna try and sprite my ledian evo idea

[dusty arrow]

and now its a thunder stone

https://tenor.com/view/grubbin-pokemon-bug-larval-beetle-grub-gif-26484001

also i love grubbin

hes just a lil guy

[full bison]

grubbin is an underrated mon in the cuteness department

[outer matrix]

I mean, I like vikavolt's design, shiny & even made a humanized design, but the stats can't save it

[full bison]

Joltik is still peak in that area IMO but Grubbin is up there

[dusty arrow]

i need a grubbin plush to be friends with my snom plush

[clear lichen]

Literally what I was about to ssy

[ember bear]

cmon the only bad thing about it's stats is the speed

[bitter comet]

And that can be fixed by fusion

[dusty arrow]

what base looks best to represent this evo idea?

im thinking of 166e but im not sure

[clear lichen]

Low-mid HP and SpD, mid defences

And the speed is really, REALLY bad

[full bison]

certified Aslowla moment

[outer matrix]

The first one or c

[clear lichen]

Middling bulk and low speed is like a Gen 3 nightmare but at least Vikavolt isn't a mixed attacker

[silent acorn]

Fun fact

Pants

[dusty arrow]

vikavolt shouldve been faster

[bitter comet]

Hey, anything stat related can be fixed by fusing

[silent acorn]

Not actually

[bitter comet]

Oh fr?

[clear lichen]

Idk, 43 fucking speed?

[silent acorn]

It can be made worse lol

[outer matrix]

fuse it with a legendary

[clear lichen]

43 is very low

[full bison]

Vikavolt could be a cool Support/attacker hybrid if IF gives it Battery as a HA

[dusty arrow]

fuse it with electrode

[clear lichen]

Pathetic

[silent acorn]

A lot of the sick combos and stats are opposite all the time

[clear lichen]

Fusions are 2/3 from one Pokemon and 1/3 from another right?

[silent acorn]

Problem is Vika specializes on Spatk

[ember bear]

just fuse it with yanmega 🔥

[silent acorn]

So it would need a way too fast body

Like maybe Ninjask

[dusty arrow]

i was thinking of e mostly because it gives ample space for me tro represent the elements in each fist

but c could work too

[full bison]

At least Vikavolt's a Special Attacker so it's offensive stat isn't immediately undercut by fusing it with something with a decent speed Body, Rampardos.

[prime dust]

updated the pinned comment to reflect the news

[silent acorn]

Ironically the best combos for Vika are bugs too

[clear lichen]

Yeah ig Electrode works

[silent acorn]

Electrode is fast, Raichu

[dusty arrow]

raichu has like 100 speed

[silent acorn]

What else is absurdly fast?

[clear lichen]

Raichu is nowhere near as fast as the other mons we have mentioned

[dusty arrow]

raichu is not absurdly fast bru

[silent acorn]

Eh close enough

[dusty arrow]

yanmega has speed boost

[clear lichen]

Ninjask is 160, Electrode is 150

[silent acorn]

Well pika then

For the item

[dusty arrow]

PIKACHU HAS WORSE SPEED

[full bison]

I genuinely think that the worst statline you can have in IF besides every stat being mediocre is to have good Attack and absolutely nothing else of value

[dusty arrow]

AND WORSE EVERYTHING

[silent acorn]

For the item

[dusty arrow]

CUZ ITS A PRE-EVO

[clear lichen]

Even fusing Vikavolt with Electrode only gets you to ~113

[full bison]

The Light Ball in question:

[clear lichen]

That's with one of the fastest candidates

[dusty arrow]

give it to raichu

[silent acorn]

Then i dunno

[dusty arrow]

pikachu doesnt deserve it

[clear lichen]

Even with Light Ball, Pikachu is worse in non fusion formats

Simply because of the lower speed and bulk

Also, Vikavolt doesn't need power

It needs speed

[bitter comet]

OK, what are the drawbacks of Eelektross?

Since we’re talking about drawbacks right now

[clear lichen]

Blaziken with Vikavolt could be fun

[clear lichen]

Mid stats

[dusty arrow]

low speed

[clear lichen]

Ig Attack is good

SpA is decent

[dusty arrow]

thats pmuch it, it could ask for more defenses though

[clear lichen]

Other stats are mid and speed is bad

[hushed mantle]

Physical electrics suck tho

[dusty arrow]

85/80/80 bulk isnt bad though

[clear lichen]

This too

[dusty arrow]

chances are

[silent acorn]

Gimme bullet points for Ludicolo

[dusty arrow]

pif could give eelektross plasma fist

[full bison]

I want Eelektross to get added and be given Electric Surge so bad

[dusty arrow]

which would be cool but-

[clear lichen]

Low-mid Attack and Defence mid SpA and HP, meh SpD, the only reason to use it is redundant in a fusion format

[full bison]

Rain Dish tho

[clear lichen]

Wait mb I typed spd a twice

[dusty arrow]

are people still going to use ludicolo? yes.

does ludicolo have mid-stats? yes.

[silent acorn]

It was... I mean it is mid

[dusty arrow]

so your points are redundant

[silent acorn]

On stats

[clear lichen]

Absolutely

[bitter comet]

What is the most mid Pokémon stat wise to be added in this update so far?

[clear lichen]

Ludicolo is cool

[hushed mantle]

Luvdisc

[full bison]

Rain Dish+Lefties without getting more of a weakness to Fire like with Dry Skin is pretty huge on Ludicolo

[clear lichen]

Just that it isn't good

[silent acorn]

nay

[dusty arrow]

eelektross has better stats than ludicolo, and has overall more popularity than ludicolo

[full bison]

It got Rain banned in Gen 5 cause it was so hard to kill

[dusty arrow]

plus eelektross has coil

[silent acorn]

But its not gen 3

[clear lichen]

It's not the only rain abuser yknow

There's like 50 thousand

[dusty arrow]

good for your gen 3 bias

i dont care

[clear lichen]

(Exaggeration)

And I doubt Ludicolo was the worst offender

[full bison]

But it was still an incredibly prominent one

[bitter comet]

Anyone know?

[clear lichen]

That said, it is a swift swimmer

[silent acorn]

Glad you got the point

[clear lichen]

And it isn't limited to Swift Swim

[dusty arrow]

as much as i love seviper and zangoose

their stats just arent all that great

[clear lichen]

Usually its pros as a Swift swimmer is Grass STAB to break past stuff like Bulky Waters

Here that uhh

Doesn't matter

[fallen loom]

the most complete gen beween 3-7 in IF is?

[clear lichen]

It's a fusion format

[bitter comet]

Oh, I’m talking about currently announced mons

[clear lichen]

Probably 3

[dusty arrow]

im gonna throw a random gen out there and say gen 3

[bitter comet]

People seem to be confusing them for unannounced mons lol

[full bison]

In IF it becomes the bulky Water type

[fallen loom]

wrong! It's Gen 4

[clear lichen]

It's probably in order honestly

[dusty arrow]

oh thats been added

uhh

probalby ludicolo then

[clear lichen]

Fr?

[fallen loom]

yes

[dusty arrow]

or slurpuff or carbink

but tbf slurpuff has funny belly drum and unburde- oh wait

[full bison]

Carbink is amazing in the fusion format

[fallen loom]

Gen 3: 73/135 (54.07%)
Gen 4: 63/107 (58.9%)
Gen 5: 47/156 (30.13%)
Gen 6: 34/72 (47.22%)
Gen 7: 20/88 (22.73%)

[clear lichen]

Carbink has high defences and the Fairy type

[ember bear]

hey carbink has funny bulk

[dusty arrow]

FROG

[clear lichen]

Good enough

[dusty arrow]

FIX THE SPEED ABILITIES AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[ember bear]

it would be way more terrifying if it had reliable recovery

[fathom ridge]

How do you do the big letters?

[dusty arrow]

hashtag space words

[clear lichen]

Swirlix has niche as Unburden Sweeper or a Suicide Sticky Webber

[ember bear]

(imagine if carbink got shore up)

[clear lichen]

Though tbf it needs to get Webs via egg move

[fathom ridge]

#like this?#

[clear lichen]

But shhhhh

[dusty arrow]

no

.# this

remove the period

[fathom ridge]

I’m big

Lmao thanks

[dusty arrow]

there you go

[clear lichen]

Smh imagine replying to the wrong person couldn't be me

[fathom ridge]

Vikavolt high :0

[silent acorn]

Where waz ludicolo before?

[fallen loom]

we need Gen 5 and 7 Bugs

[fallen loom]

popular mon tier

[silent acorn]

I dont remember that

[silent acorn]

Thing didn't even have propaganda dont even remember where it showed up

[dusty arrow]

this torkoal/typhlosion might change my mind on torkoal fusions

[clear lichen]

I dont see why legendaries would be more likely than mythicals, starters or UBs

[fallen loom]

AKA orange tier

[fathom ridge]

You are sleeping on bronzongg ngl

[clear lichen]

Wanting Cosmog line is very based though

[fathom ridge]

The shell texture is so good

[fallen loom]

triple turtle fusions with Blastoise, Torterra and Torkoal

[viral pawn]

torkoal is great for an early drought mon tbf

[fathom ridge]

Nah big emotes don’t work

[clear lichen]

Torkoal is just usually the better Drought mon

[viral pawn]

till you get groudon ig

[clear lichen]

But hey maybe in a fusion format Ninetales can stand a chance

[clear lichen]

Yeah I wasn't considering Groudon because like

Groudon

Lmfao

[ember bear]

how many drought pokemon are even there

[clear lichen]

That's like comparing Politoed (L) to Pelipper (W) to Kyogre (Bruh)

[ember bear]

like ik ninetales, torkoal and groudon

[clear lichen]

Not a lot

[fathom ridge]

Politoer is L?

[ember bear]

mega zard y ig but it's a form

[clear lichen]

Compared to Pelipper, and in battle

[viral pawn]

mega charizard y torkoal groudon and ninetales got drought

[clear lichen]

Yes

[viral pawn]

so 3 + 1 that you cant use

[fallen loom]

I wish we got Tough Claws

all TC users are Megas, exhiled from existence or Binacle

[full bison]

Meanwhile the Terrain setters have nothing that can be added to IF aside from the very likely to be banned Tapus

[fathom ridge]

Binacle my beloved

[clear lichen]

There are very few Drought and Drizzle mons

[fathom ridge]

I wonder if terrain could even be added

[full bison]

Terrain is added

[clear lichen]

Idk if Bulu would be banned and I'm also pretty apprehensive on Fini

[full bison]

the moves are at the Move Expert

[clear lichen]

Lele and Koko? Yeah goodbye lmfao

I think Bulu is definitely the least likely out of the 4 to be banned

[fallen loom]

I better see beta Scraggy as alts for Scraggy (also not Scrafty for beta Scraggy, since it's clearly Scraggy, as it evolved into proto Grobyle (who I would also like to see as an alt))

[fathom ridge]

How does beta scraggy look?

[fallen loom]

there are two, but this one looks more like Scraggy

[marble meadow]

the kapus will be not easy to sprites

[fallen loom]

Grovyle got rejected twice before becoming Treecko's evo BTW

[fathom ridge]

Poor guy

I saw that

[full bison]

The one on the left is a pretty easy Ekans/Scraggy fusion opportunity

[fathom ridge]

I think aurorus could fit even better

[fallen loom]

the Park Ball we could have had

another beta Grovyle

[rain locust]

it isnt gen 5 ou though innit

[rain locust]

ludicolo/lurantis

right slurpuff also has 480 bst

[dusty arrow]

at least lurantis has contrary

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-zygarde-pokémon-pokémon-legends-za-kalos-gif-3933420139227404546

[lofty dagger]

finally these pokemon can wear pants

[twin phoenix]

So the little pants lizard claims the old number of Arceus.

[fallen loom]

pants god

[twin phoenix]

I still believe the final ones will be legends. Haven't seen any get added since joining in spring.

[dusty arrow]

how the hell does multitype work in this game

does it even work

[trail hull]

torkoal claims the old number of cresselia

[dusty arrow]

lurantis is old dusknoir

and carbink is froslass

slurpuff is grass hedgehog

[bitter comet]

What is Golisopod?

[unkempt stone]

Scraggy and Scrafty les gooooooo

[trail hull]

gallade

[velvet root]

pure non if Goats that became half cuz of the updates...

[twin phoenix]

Scraggy line could have been goat.

[bitter comet]

There’s always next year

[velvet root]

and the year after
and that year after
and so on and on and on and on

[rain locust]

the world when we eventually get the national dex

[tender plank]

nah but i think next year goat nation actually has a chance
some big fan favourites have been wiped out of the image now that they're in the game
and with my guess of 35 pokemon next year, i think gogoat may actually have a standing chance in those conditions

[velvet root]

Next year we get the Turtle too I tell you man

[tender plank]

(and the bird, i don't wanna leave them out)

[marble meadow]

blacepholon for new year or the next year

[dusty arrow]

the progress (im stumped on how to do the air and water hands because im stupid) ((i also dont know what to do with the fire hand and ground hand))

(((ledians wings look like apple slices)))

[bitter comet]

Hey man, the more time we get the more sprites you guys can complete

So look on that Bright side

[velvet root]

True
But I also wanna see what the server does with the Goat you know

[bitter comet]

That is true

[ember bear]

0

[inland jewel]

im pretty sure we had plenty of fusions showcasing what they'd do with goat

I want to see some out of pocket picks like Loudred or Spoink

[full bison]

Trying to draw a Gardevoir/Scrafty fusion with a sort-of side buzz, but the way Gardevoir's hair settles makes it look awkward to not have the bang going down the middle

[inland jewel]

whats the hairstyle where you have the hair coming out of your cheeks

like Chops or something

you can probably do something like that

[silk narwhal]

Scraggy. Horrible

[silk narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/dilper-jschlatt-schlatt-speech-bubble-gif-12715249539758575857

[inland jewel]

yeah that

[marble meadow]

guess till next reveal i cope for malamar

[glass patio]

oh i just saw the announcement

[unkempt kernel]

Next reveal I hope for gothitelle if it has to be a 3 stage line

Otherwise, Pachi and excadrill

[marble meadow]

my guess dex 500 is a mytical

[unkempt kernel]

Yeah, Pachirisu

[marble meadow]

escavalier

[unkempt kernel]

Thing is you’d need the shelter line for it

[glass patio]

it’s not miniover just yet 🗣️🔥🔥

[dusty arrow]

L take honestly

but ill let you form your own opinions

[alpine rune]

I'm noticing a pattern

[unkempt kernel]

2 slots for minior and one for Pachi

[alpine rune]

It's all just gonna be clothes mons

[glass patio]

nah, one slot for minior

[alpine rune]

I'm calling it, next is Gothitelle line

[unkempt kernel]

I hope

[glass patio]

also there’s prob gonna be legendaries/mythicals in the last ones

so i wouldn’t get my hopes high for a 3 stage if i were you guys tbh

[spare topaz]

same thought process as u lol
but rly im down for anything the last 3 would be for now in all honesty

[unkempt kernel]

Why are ppl so hung up on legends or a mythical being added? Pretty sure it was stated when the votes happened that they weren’t gonna be added this time around

[glass patio]

just for the votes tho

[spare topaz]

i dunno

[unkempt kernel]

Gothitelle saves this for me after the pod being announced

[glass patio]

They also said there wouldn’t be starters

[alpine rune]

Any other clothes themed Mons?

[glass patio]

And we got kalos starters

[marble meadow]

gothitelle goth fusion

[unkempt kernel]

Furfrou?

[alpine rune]

That's 1 slot, what's a 2 slotter?

[unkempt kernel]

Uh

Damn I played myself

[spare topaz]

every1s gonna go crazy abt it fusions wise i just know it

[alpine rune]

Furfrou doesn't have preevo right?

[spare topaz]

just imagine the combos

[unkempt kernel]

Plusel and minun

[alpine rune]

[unkempt kernel]

Eh, idc I just want to use gothitelle for once

[alpine rune]

Fuck, now that you mentioned hoenn, It's Prolly gonna be volbeat illumise

They're essentially style pokemon

[unkempt kernel]

Tho I think it’s in black 2

[unkempt kernel]

Could be

[spare topaz]

thats fine lol

[alpine rune]

Gothi
Illubeat
Furfrou

[marble meadow]

gardevoir gothitelle goth gardevoir

[spare topaz]

that would be cool

[unkempt kernel]

Garde in a maid dress

[spare topaz]

gardevoir but goth

[unkempt kernel]

Counter argument: the best pika clone could be added

[spare topaz]

there u go

[unkempt kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-squirrel-pokemon-pokemon-pachirisu-adorable-gif-17099886384054803802

[spare topaz]

hell yeah pachirisu

[alpine rune]

Tsareena is a style pokemon ig

[spare topaz]

deserves to get in too :3

[velvet root]

Emolga?

[alpine rune]

That's a 3 line-r

[unkempt kernel]

I’d be happy with that

[unkempt kernel]

No

Pachirisu

[spare topaz]

emolgas cool too

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-emolga-anime-gif-23364794

[spare topaz]

:3

squirel buddy

[unkempt kernel]

You won’t be saying that after playing black or white

[glass patio]

electric gym

[velvet root]

So you dislike it cuz you have massiv skill issue

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-james-team-rocket-pokemon-gif-25091008

[alpine rune]

Trying to look up stylish Pokémon I found Touhou May

[unkempt kernel]

Elesa is the hardest gym in gen 5

[velvet root]

Dragon and Ground are harder

[marble meadow]

nah i guees that fashion stlye theme is done it will be something else

[glass patio]

Nah I’d win

[velvet root]

like dont we get a lot of rock and ground types before elesa?

[unkempt kernel]

Emolga is immune to ground and in pretty sure you can’t get a dragon mon before her

Oh wait I misread

[steel meadow]

Ground type gym leader is the hardest in that gen

That excadrill almost always gets a kill in my nuzlockes there