pif-hoenn-discussion

[dusty arrow]

puts focus sash on your shedinja

[glass patio]

wait does that work

[dusk viper]

we are going back on the submarine

[dusty arrow]

yes

[humble lance]

now the real question is
will tomorrows pokemon be 488 or will it be more than one slot

[glass patio]

wouldn’t it die the next turn tho

[dusty arrow]

it wouldnt have black sludge

since only one item per pokemon

[glass patio]

wait oh

but maybe they used smth to swap items

[dusk viper]

could be relicanth

[dusty arrow]

gives you a second ability (sticky hold)

[umbral river]

The new Pokemon is actually the Burmy line

And it takes up 7 slots

[glass patio]

tf

wait

[humble lance]

noooooooo

[glass patio]

sticky guard

[twin phoenix]

Hoping for a legend, maybe?

[dusty arrow]

true

[glass patio]

that sounds so bad omfg

[dusty arrow]

and you cant switch out either

[umbral river]

Legend would be fun, uh,

[full bison]

I could see Burmy only taking 5, but it's still a little much

[dusty arrow]

(the oppoent that is)

[glass patio]

wonder hold?

[umbral river]

Kinda dont want one but it'd be fun

[full bison]

Burmy only takes 1 slot on it's own before evolving. The tradeoff, it looks like this

[twin phoenix]

Going by the popular vote, it's gotta be Minior.

[umbral river]

I'd love a Minior

[twin phoenix]

Recent additions were popular picks so the trend might continue.

[umbral river]

But I'd also love a Relicanth

I dunno, have we gotten a more "gameplay hype" Pokemon in these last couple reveals? I don't know about anything in terms of Pokemon gameplay specifics but I feel like Golisopod / Slurpuff / Gourgeist don't offer too much in gameplay

[hidden relic]

howdy gamers

[umbral river]

Outside of the Wimpod line having Wimp Out / Emergency Exit which is the funny button

[hidden relic]

what y'all up to?

[umbral river]

Crimes

[hidden relic]

well that's no good

[full bison]

Slurpuff's big thing is Belly Drum+Sitrus Berry+Unburden, but I think Unburden's broken RN

[dusty arrow]

"golisopod doesnt add much in terms of gameplay"
the bst without emergency exit:
slurpuff has belly drum unburden
and gourgeist lets you have many different stats to fit with a specific pokemon

[full bison]

Also we got Lurantis which means Solar Blade and Contrary

[umbral river]

Gotcha

[hidden relic]

Hell, truth be told, Slur was gonna be revealed a little bit later at first

[dusty arrow]

contrary will probably be used more than contrary tbh

[dusty arrow]

Slur

[full bison]

Not the best abbreviation there

[hidden relic]

Wasn't till we got the info on it's inclusion that we got to add it to Spritober

[umbral river]

Don't be a contrarian

[dusty arrow]

...

my brain is dying in real time

[hidden relic]

Oh who cares, you know what I'm talkin' bout

[dusty arrow]

meant contrary will probably be used more than solar blade

[umbral river]

Consuming your brain cells as we speak

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-edgy-kiwi-discord-slurp-gif-25277998

[umbral river]

Like an amoeba

[hidden relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234176627718623232/1280211221089616032/SwirlixSlurpuff.gif

[dusty arrow]

slurpuff and swirlix fucking die

[hidden relic]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

[full bison]

Me waiting for UBs like

[glass patio]

no way

[umbral river]

Me, waiting for Kricketune in IF:

[stoic canopy]

So who we think we getting tomorrow at oak’s lab?

[umbral river]

I regret to inform you that I do not think

[full bison]

Relicanth or Tropius, maybe Luvdisc or Alomomola

[umbral river]

But what I want is Shellos and Gastrodon

[stoic canopy]

You poor soul

[gray vine]

i mean it says they are gonna stream the ascend not oaks lab, so at most we gonna get a reveal still in the coean

[gray vine]

pog based

[umbral river]

What I'm wondering is, they're gonna stream the ascend? We getting a video that they put together that we're gonna watch on stream?

[gray vine]

well yeah

[umbral river]

That's pretty cool

[stoic canopy]

Good point, I do hope it’s not another water Pokemon, but that seems unlikely

[umbral river]

Now I'm just curious, like, what Pokemon have they given the luxury of a video dedicated to them

I don't think they've made a video to showcase a new Pokemon before

[stoic canopy]

Unless a seedot stowaway on the sub, I feel like it won’t be a Pokémon I want.

[dusty arrow]

reminder that my golisopod theory could be true

[stoic canopy]

Didn’t golisopod get in already?

[umbral river]

Ye

[dusty arrow]

theory

[stoic canopy]

So what’s the theory then?

[umbral river]

Oh there we go

Plot twist: the reveal tomorrow isn't a new Pokemon but a new gameplay feature

[stoic canopy]

Unless it’s a full showcase of the character creator, I don’t think so.

[umbral river]

The people in the submarine step into Oak's Lab, dressed in anime villain-level clothing
"You wouldn't believe it, Oak. Deep in the Kanto oceans, we discovered... drip"

[stoic canopy]

I don’t have much water types I want in the game. So I’m going to guess the ghost jellyfish

[umbral river]

I would also love the pringles jellyfish

My wish for a non-Water type is Dwebble

Why would Dwebble be revealed tomorrow? It a hermit crab

Why is Dwebble awesome? It a hermit crab

[hidden relic]

Well, you're not within the stage this time it seems

Somewhere like it

But not the same

[full bison]

"The sub was only able to get up as fast as it did cause we fixed Swift Swim"

[dusty arrow]

is swift swim broken??

[full bison]

yup

[dusty arrow]

how so

[full bison]

just doesn't trigger

[umbral river]

"We had some rough storms when we surfaced but they cleared out, we also fixed weather conditions"

[dusty arrow]

so like unburden??

does sand rush work?

[full bison]

nope. Chlorophyl doesn't either

[umbral river]

Or Snow Cloak I imagine

[full bison]

I think Hydration works tho

[dusty arrow]

infinite fusion devs when it comes to doing speed boosting abilities that isnt an actual stat boost:

[umbral river]

Infinite Fusion dev when someone completes the full Pokedex (they reached the full amount of finite possible fusions)

[gray vine]

dev

lul

[dusty arrow]

oh right

its one dev

[umbral river]

Infinite Fusion devs when there's actually only one dev (it's a finite number of devs)

[gray vine]

i mean you cant..or i guess technailly if you constantly release mons and are ready to have to recapture and evolve mons

since pretty sure even a unfused living dx isnt possible

[umbral river]

I think space wouldn't be an issue

[gray vine]

it def is

[umbral river]

You could have all (current) 470 Pokemon in the box right?

[gray vine]

you dont have inf boxes

ye but thats just 470

[umbral river]

That's all you'd need to be able to complete the dex!

[dusty arrow]

there should be more boxes tbh

[gray vine]

doible fusions are a thing

you need both of every mon

[umbral river]

oh shoot you're right

uhh

shoot

hold on

[dusty arrow]

anyway

bye chat

https://tenor.com/view/sepiroth-smash-smash-brother-smash-sister-gif-19803090

[gray vine]

so yeah you could def still do it all but its not as easy as making a unfused living dex and then fusing and unfusing, you would have to constantly make space and spend hours reevolving and catching the same mons

[umbral river]

^

What I'm curious though is more,

How much money would that cost

[gray vine]

mmh?

[umbral river]

There's something like, 200,000 possible Pokemon including the base ones?

Subtract whatever number it is by 470

Wait

This is an irrelevant question I just remembered the Infinite Splicer

[gray vine]

[umbral river]

I regret to inform you that I still do not think (quickly enough)

Final question would then be

Oh my god how many months would it take to do this

Like, maybe it'd just be a collective couple of days worth of hours

But even that would be wayyy too much time

[gray vine]

mmh first you would make a living dex of 470 which probably would take a while, then spend along boring amount of time fusing every single mon in your box with every single mon in your box whicvh means fusing every mon 469 times every single mon, and thats the easy part, since the double fusions require you to then get 470 more of every mon and now its not even as simple (if boring) of just box fusing, now you gotta constantly juggle the mons in your team, fuse em and only put double fusions in your box till your box is filled with 470 double fusions

[bitter comet]

Well, we know when the next reveal will be now

What do you think they will reveal?

[umbral river]

Charizard

[outer matrix]

Definitely a water type that gets revealed, like a single stage

[bitter comet]

OK, what are some single stage water types?

[umbral river]

I relicanth think of a Pokemon that'd fit that description

[bitter comet]

Oh yeah

[outer matrix]

Alomola & luvdsic are single stages as well

[full bison]

Luvdisc would cause so much indignation lol

[bitter comet]

The people would go insane and it would be so funny lol

[umbral river]

Luvdisc I feel would be so much insanity that it'd stop being funny

[bitter comet]

It would be entertaining then

[outer matrix]

I mean, it's likely since jokes/trolls happen during reveals sometimes

[bitter comet]

Most Internet brawls are at the very least entertaining

[umbral river]

I feel like Alomomola would also cause insanity but not to that same amount

[bitter comet]

Gives you something to look at for a minute

[umbral river]

And also Alomomola is just better Luvdisc

[full bison]

Alomo at least has good stats and Regenerator

[umbral river]

And its design has more going for it

So fusions would have more to go off of

[bitter comet]

And I heard that Golisopod/a Mon with regenerator, would be OP

[outer matrix]

Imagine if basculin was revealed

[dark prism]

what other water types were in the poll again

[umbral river]

And it could still have the same heart theming of Luvdisc fusions

[bitter comet]

Can’t remember who I heard it from but I heard it

[dark prism]

def

[full bison]

Regenerator on anything is pretty crazy

except stuff like Sunkern

[umbral river]

Sunkern sounds like a very silly way to say that something sunk

"The submarine has sunkern into the water"

[full bison]

Regenerator is such a gonzo ability that Mienshao, a sweeper mon, prefers it over the more offensively geared Reckless

[dark prism]

the cetitan explorer went down

[bitter comet]

Man, I’d be relatively happy if the pink fish with the unpronounceable name was added. Sure not one of my favorites, but OP ability unlocked for a new type

[outer matrix]

Alomomola

[bitter comet]

Man, who wants to bet some fusions will be so OP that they will just ban them from competitive

[full bison]

I mean, Toxapex has it too, but still, it's easier to access on Alomo

[outer matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-lana-alomona-gif-7347037

[bitter comet]

Oh, it does? I never knew that

[umbral river]

I'mma be honest despite Alomomola getting the same hate that Luvdisc does I like it a lot

It's a fun little fishy

And I can see it getting used for some cute fusion designs

[full bison]

Alomomola would probably be relatively popular if it was a Luvdisc evo like people wanted it to be

[umbral river]

If Alomomola was added in any other generation it'd be a Luvdisc evo

But they added it in gen 5, the "none of our Pokemon tie in to previous generations" generation

[full bison]

Nah if it was added in Gen 6 it'd be a Mega Luvdisc that got Dexited away after Gen 8 lol

[umbral river]

That too

[bitter comet]

I thought it was added in GEN seven lol

[umbral river]

And if it was added in Gen 7,

Then yeah it'd probably be the same as in Gen 5

I dunno but if it was added in Gen 4 it'd totally be an evo of Luvdisc

[outer matrix]

Another possible reveal for tomorrow could be wishiwashi

[umbral river]

I'd love Wishiwashi

For the same reason I'd love Falinks, just have a bunch of lil guys

[full bison]

Wishiwashi would have to be a 2 slotter and Spriters are terrified of having to deal with School form

[umbral river]

Wishiwashi school form would definitely be crazy

But I think it'd be very fun to make fusions of little fishie guys making up the silhouette of various Pokemon

An aquatic Rorscach test

[outer matrix]

Just draw a shape similar to the body Pokémon but add eyes to it

[bitter comet]

I would be mad if they added Wishiwashi without its second form

[full bison]

It'd be cool seeing a Wishiwashi School/Gardevoir referencing || the Shifting Mound|| from Slay The Princess, but I dunno if Rule 2 would allow it

[umbral river]

What I'd wanna see is Wishiwashi's regular form

And how people differentiate it from Remoraid fusions

[bitter comet]

Like what’s the point of having a gimmick on mon if the gimmick isn’t even added in the game???

[full bison]

Wishiwashi Solo as a head would just turn everything into

[umbral river]

Calyrex in Gen 9:

[full bison]

[bitter comet]

I don’t know what that is

[umbral river]

Some thing that rides horse Pokemon that didn't get to do that in gen 9

[bitter comet]

Oh yeah, that thing from that generation eight DLC

[umbral river]

It was like a mythical? From a DLC of sword and shield

[full bison]

Legendary

[umbral river]

Mythical, legendary, potato potaato

[bitter comet]

Man, that sucks

[umbral river]

I can't wait til they add Gen 9's tera turtle pokemon to a generation without terastalization

And it's just a tiny little turtle dude with nothing to it

[outer matrix]

Ok, the last thing that could possibly get revealed might be torkoal due to that one gif if it jumping off of a boat (as a funny reveal)

[full bison]

Ultra Necrozma all over again

[bitter comet]

That would be epic

[umbral river]

I'd love Torkoal

[full star]

I hope it's Malamar

[bitter comet]

That would be nice

[umbral river]

There's too many Pokemon I would love

It's a much much shorter list to list off ones I'd hate for it to be

[bitter comet]

Although they are probably revealing the missing slot mon which is only a one stager

[full star]

We need more Dark types and Malamar looks like a squid, so it would fit

[full bison]

Torkoal getting added along with Lurantis basically would guarantee my first playthrough after the update would be a Sun team

[umbral river]

such as luvdisc

[full star]

Possibly, though I wouldn't fully count on it just yet
Might just be me hoping too much though

[bitter comet]

Would be over the moon if they added Malmar though

[quaint matrix]

Blissey Slaking and Regigigas in the function

[full star]

Same

Malamar is one of my favorite Pokemon of all time

[outer matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/pokmon-kill-me-im-out-gif-18142494

[full bison]

Any UB besides Celesteela would probably get banned lol

[clear lichen]

Buzzwole is probably fine

[full bison]

maybe Nihilego would be fine too but still

[clear lichen]

Maybe

[quaint matrix]

UBs would be so sick but I have to imagine it's like

Middle of the next year at the latest to be added

[bitter comet]

I would finally be able to request that Eldritch horror Malamar/Gyarados fusion that I’ve been hoping for

[umbral river]

UBs would be sick, but they'd also definitely be reserved for late postgame

[clear lichen]

Great Tusk is just Buzzwole with a different type, no reliable recovery and Rapid Spin

[quaint matrix]

I'm sure Mr. Mime and Miltank can provide the necessary blurse

[umbral river]

Maybe even the post-postgame like the non-egg versions of the creation trio

[quaint matrix]

I have some good news about the Creation Trio

[full star]

I'd finally get to use my OG team from my first playthrough of Y

[bitter comet]

They are not bioluminescent

[bitter comet]

They will not make the terrifying Eldritch sea creatures that I have pictured in my mind

[clear lichen]

Surely combining the good traits from both won't end poorly

[full bison]

I'd love to see the exercises in Pokemon biology that Naganadel offers up by flipping Pokemon on their head in the most literal way possible

[full star]

Plus Inkay is adorable

[quaint matrix]

Well at least the evolve requirement wouldn't be so

Silly when they get added

[bitter comet]

I’m personally thinking it will be some type of keyboard combination that you need to do on your computer

[weak trellis]

I was gonna say it'll probably just be that level it already is with no gyro stuffs

[umbral river]

You have to flip your computer upside down to evolve them

[outer matrix]

Must flip your computer tower

[umbral river]

Yes

[quaint matrix]

You gotta lay your PC screen flat

[full bison]

Annoying fact: you can't evolve Inkay on the Nintendo Switch in Docked Mode. It needs to be handheld despite the Joycons having gyro sensors

WHY

[umbral river]

To evolve them you have to travel from the topmost region of the map to the bottommost region of the map. Without warping

OR

level it to level 24 :)

[outer matrix]

Level it with hitmontop in party

[full bison]

Imagine Crabominable is added and can't evolve until Mt. Silver

[umbral river]

Wait I got it

[full star]

Malamar would look awesome fused with most Pokemon

[tacit saddle]

inkays evolution is so stupid and has always been stupid sorry

[umbral river]

I know how to evolve Inkay in IF

[tacit saddle]

not evolution

evo method

[umbral river]

You put it in the first slot of your party

And THEN

Move it to the last slot of your party

[quaint matrix]

Okay but relative to the latest headass Evo methods is it really that stupid

[tacit saddle]

yes

it is

[full star]

I've wanted Mega Malamar for a long time ngl

[tacit saddle]

thatd be really fuckin funny

[full bison]

Nothing will ever top Melmetal or Runerigus

[quaint matrix]

Stupider than Runerigus and Gimmighoul?

[clear lichen]

Honestly, Inkay Evo Method>>>Trade Evos

[tacit saddle]

not stupider, but maybe as stupid

[quaint matrix]

Stupider than Basculegion?

[clear lichen]

Trade Evos are so ass

[tacit saddle]

i will agree there

cause at least you can GET it in game

[full star]

Just level or stone evo

[outer matrix]

Linking cord item was the best thing

[umbral river]

Trade Evos, also the stupid Finizen evo

[tacit saddle]

BRING BACK THE PLA MECHANICS

[umbral river]

I hated Finizen just because it required additional people

[clear lichen]

Why argue about which evolutions are the worst when the true worst evo method has existed since the beginning?

[tacit saddle]

finizen is the worst

[full bison]

How about Wyrdeer or Ursaluna? Want these evos? $60 please

[umbral river]

Like, even Linking Cord couldn't help you with Finizen

[tacit saddle]

finizen has to be THE worst

[quaint matrix]

Trade evo is stupid but also that's just kinda the selling method so I can't really fault it that much

[bitter comet]

Man, I never found out how to evolve Rune can you enlighten me onto how you evolved it?

[quaint matrix]

Just means that everytime I gotta be stuck with Haunter when I do FRLG lmao

[tacit saddle]

you gotta go under a bridge

not kiddin

[outer matrix]

Me who shamelessly bought all mainline switch ganes

[full bison]

With a low enough HP, can't forget that

[clear lichen]

Runerigus is probably 2nd worst evo method excluding Palafin which I'm grouping with trade evos

[tacit saddle]

YEAH.

It evolves from Galarian Yamask when the player travels under the large rock arch in Dusty Bowl after Yamask takes at least 49 HP in damage from attacks without fainting.

[clear lichen]

At least it's possible if you don't have online

[full star]

Unlocking Manaphy in PLA though-

[tacit saddle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bitter comet]

Never played gen 9 so how do you evolve Palafin?

[full bison]

Sirfetch'd is also atrocious cause it's so RNG dependant

[clear lichen]

Something to do with multiplayer

[weak trellis]

runerigus is also even worse since it involves a japanese number pun that you really can't translate

[clear lichen]

That's all you need to know

[umbral river]

Trade evos are made to make you play the bideo game with friends (at least that was the marketed intention in the first few gens) but it's always been too bothersome

[weak trellis]

(same thing with basculegion actually)

[tacit saddle]

someone has to watch it kill a pokemon in multiplayer iirc

[full star]

Where you need a seperate game to know what you're doing without a wiki

[quaint matrix]

You know what's even worse

It's stuck on the stupid regional form

[clear lichen]

I believe it's just level up in the multiplayer mode

[bitter comet]

Man, I remember doing that

[tacit saddle]

Farfetch'd will only evolve into Sirfetch'd if it manages to land three critical hits during one battle.
WHAT

[quaint matrix]

Sorry original Farfetch'd you're not British enough to actually evolve into something that matter

[weak trellis]

(gen 8 in general had a lot of japanese number puns actually between those two and practically every in-game trainer number except leon's rofl)

gen 8's two loves: japanese number puns and monotypes

[full bison]

Better hope RNGesus loves you LOL

[clear lichen]

There's a signature item that increases crit rate and the high crit rate moves

[umbral river]

Semi-related, but, Basculegion being locked to the Legends: Arceus-exclusive version of Basculin

[clear lichen]

Those bring your chance to crit up to 50%

[tacit saddle]

that + lucky chant

[full star]

I only got BD for the Darkrai unlock and then immediately resold my copy lol
So I had to look up the wiki

[clear lichen]

What I'm trying to say is, it's not that bad

[weak trellis]

and using a high-crit move brings it up to 100%

like say, slash

[outer matrix]

Gen 8 had lots of cross gen evos, most of which are tied to regional forms

[quaint matrix]

I'll give them this the standards have been low enough that Clodsire and Sneasler being regional form exclusive is at least whatever

[clear lichen]

Wait is the item +2 crit ratio or +1 crit ratio

[weak trellis]

you're thinking of focus energy there. lucky chant blocks crits on your side

[quaint matrix]

We still got Quagsire and Weavile

[weak trellis]

I believe the item is +2?

[bitter comet]

There’s a Pokémon you can only get if you get another game????

[clear lichen]

I thought it was +1

If it's +1 it is 50%

[bitter comet]

So you have to buy another game to get like a code or something?

[full star]

Darkrai and Shaymin

[clear lichen]

If it is +2 it is 100%

[tacit saddle]

kingambit is also kinda dumb but not as dumb as inkay, rune, etc.

[weak trellis]

I just checked, stick is +2, scope lens is +1

[clear lichen]

(Considering high crit rate moves)

[weak trellis]

focus energy is also +2

[bitter comet]

Maaaaannnnnnnnnnn.

Anyway, what was like the code?

[full star]

You need save data from BDSP and SwSh to even unlock Darkrai and Shaymin

[clear lichen]

The hardest part about that evo method is keeping Farfetch'd alive

[tacit saddle]

Find and capture a Bisharp leading some Pawniards. That will drop a Leader's Crest which you need to equip on your own Bisharp.

Then with your own Bisharp, find and fight 3 more Bisharps, and only those who are leading Pawniards. Normal Bisharps do not count.

Only after that, upon leveling up it will be Kingambit.

[clear lichen]

Because it is a Farfetch'd

[weak trellis]

since there's a funny thing with Ogrepon in gen 9 where focus energy + ivy cudgel is 100% crits without needing to use up the item slot

[tacit saddle]

THAT was stupid

[bitter comet]

Man, that’s even worse than needing a code

[weak trellis]

since FE is +2 and ivy cudgel is +1

[clear lichen]

Nah, it's better since a lot of code distributions aren't worldwide

[bitter comet]

Like how are you supposed to complete the Pokémon dex if you’re poor???

[full star]

Yeah, I only have the save data on a SD so I don't lose the ability to have a 100% save

[umbral river]

I will say, I like Gen 9's "Walk the Pokemon" evos they did for Pawmo, Rellor and whatever the tumbleweed Pokemon was

[clear lichen]

I'd rather pay money to get a Pokemon than not be able to get it at all

[weak trellis]

"that's the funny part: you don't!"

[full star]

You don't ig :/

[bitter comet]

Man, I hate this system

[full star]

Same

[weak trellis]

I do wish that they gave you an indicator of when it's ready but otherwise agreed

[full bison]

Meanwhile Melmetal is such a horrible evolution method that they eventually just gave the thing away for free

[umbral river]

However what I don't like about the system is that most Pokemon in S/V are slower than you

[tacit saddle]

thats why i dont like it

[weak trellis]

yea though in that case the "paid" part is home

[outer matrix]

Then pogo exists for the legendaries that are shiny locked in the mainline games (can't wait for shiny chi-yu in a few years)

[tacit saddle]

yep. and then they go in the ball

[quaint matrix]

Tbh I can understand the vision of wanting more evo methods to be unique beyond just leveling up and trading and items

[weak trellis]

since in actual GO it's not that bad but only being in GO is super dumb

[quaint matrix]

But like

[umbral river]

The stupid ball

[clear lichen]

Paywalled obtainability >>> only obtainable in a small number of regions

[quaint matrix]

They were THERE with knowing moves like the Gen 4 evos

[weak trellis]

especially since it means that meltan can't even use eviolite

[full star]

Locking Darkrai and Shaymin behind a $120 paywall for a game that doesn't even have online cmpat

[clear lichen]

In fact, that's why I hate trade evos

[weak trellis]

Japan Moment that everyone else has to put up with

[bitter comet]

Man, this is why I only play Pokémon fan games nowadays

[umbral river]

If Rellor wants to evolve then it needs to pick up the DANG pace before I kick the dirt ball like a soccer ball

[weak trellis]

so would that make it an issue with poor localization then?

[bitter comet]

Don’t need to pay any money

[clear lichen]

Ig at least if you bought like 2 switches and 2 copies of the same game you could technically get trade evos

[tacit saddle]

HAHA

[clear lichen]

Wtf am I supposed to do for codes

[weak trellis]

if you have a friend you can at least chop it down to 20$ by trading online but

that involves an external factor that can't be done alone

[full star]

PLA was the last one I legit played, and while I thought it was fun, I still couldn't shrug off having to write save data for a game I immediately resold just for one Pokemon

[outer matrix]

Imagine if there was a milcery regional or convergent that evolved into butter or cheese by moving around too much on a bike or on a ride Pokémon

[clear lichen]

Am I supposed to travel to America to get mythicals?

[coarse karma]

Thats so funny, new Pokémon reveal on the way back up to the surface, so unexpected as we all thought the Submarine adventure was over

[umbral river]

The codes are why I don't like the Gen 4 to Gen 6 mythicals

[bitter comet]

Man, don’t do it. It sucks here. Don’t travel here for anything.

[weak trellis]

mythicals I know aren't counted for the in-game pokedex but I can see the frustration

[umbral river]

I just dont liker mythicals tbh

[weak trellis]

yea our entire country do be about to go to hell in about 2-3 months but I wouldn't advise it even beyond the bad timing lol

but that's politics so moving on

[bitter comet]

Same they are usually just less cool legendary Pokémon

[tacit saddle]

Only to see The Bean

[clear lichen]

So TLDR
Region specific code mythicals <<< Paywalls (including some trade evos) <<< tedious evolutions

[umbral river]

Less cooler legendary, but cooler than normal Pokemon and are harder to find so they're instinctively given a bigger spotlight

[weak trellis]

<<<<<<< unobstructed 100%

[outer matrix]

Thoughts on mythicals tied to movie tickets?

[tacit saddle]

Bad

or something

[full star]

Remember when we used to get games where you could access everything, even if you had to glitch a bit to get all the Pokemon?

[coarse karma]

This is the new Pokémon discussion channel right?

[umbral river]

As a Kricketune fan I have an especial gripe against Meloetta, I know they aren't based on the same exact thing but most people just see them both and go "music" and so Kricketune gets completely overshadowed

[weak trellis]

I mean

[umbral river]

It.. was

[outer matrix]

Yep

Just a little off topic but yeah

[weak trellis]

most people see jigglypuff then go "music" and so both kricketune and meloetta get completley overshadowed just because one came before the others

[umbral river]

Truee

[tacit saddle]

3rd edits the charm

[umbral river]

Do a fourth edit that adds a smiley face

[coarse karma]

I tried to strike up a convo about the upcoming reveal and it got buried so fast, not that im not reading the current subject going on.

[weak trellis]

there you go added it

[tacit saddle]

[weak trellis]

oh right new mon uuuh

[quaint matrix]

Idk I would argue Kricketune is more iconic

[weak trellis]

my hope is either inkay or crabrawler

[clear lichen]

I talked about what I think it could be a lot already

[tacit saddle]

for that CALL

[quaint matrix]

All carried by the cry tho soooooo

[weak trellis]

both work well and have their own unique traits

[umbral river]

Nobody else does DELELELELE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

[full bison]

please no Crabrawler

[clear lichen]

But TLDR: I think the most likely is the Tynamo line

[tacit saddle]

crabrawler could be cool though

[weak trellis]

I forget what's the longest cry though

[clear lichen]

Since they're aquatic creatures that are also pretty commonly depicted on land

[umbral river]

Consider: Shellos and Gastrodon

[weak trellis]

I know it used to be jynx's but I think gen 9 passed it

[full bison]

Cetitan

[clear lichen]

The submarine is also stated to be surfacing in Vermillion

[weak trellis]

ignoring mabostiff's since that one feels like an audio bug at the end

[gray vine]

isnt it kriktune

[clear lichen]

Vermillion City Gym is Electric type

And Tynamo line are pure Electric type

[full bison]

So if Tynamo was added, would it be a cave encounter, or a fishing one?

[tacit saddle]

pllsss give us tynamo honestly

[gray vine]

https://tenor.com/view/シビシラス-shibishirasu-tynamo-pokemon-pokemon-black-white-gif-6652376606404434507

[tacit saddle]

could be both?

[clear lichen]

This also gives Lieutenant Surge an answer for Ground types

[umbral river]

That's a cool theory! Unfortunately, I have already made the assumption that it is the Shellos line, and so it shall be /j

[clear lichen]

I mean he kinda gets screwed over by the fact that Diglett Cave exists

[full bison]

They put freaking Dhelmise in a forest so I guess they could put Tynamo anywhere

[clear lichen]

So Tynamo could fix that

[umbral river]

Dhelmise is in the forest?

[quaint matrix]

I mean Dhelmise do be grassy and mossy tho

[clear lichen]

Though it'd probably be an Eelektrik at that point

[full bison]

It's Seaweed.

[umbral river]

I thought you could only find Dhelmise as a static encounter in the Sunken Ship

[tacit saddle]

okay i did research (aka lookign at a wiki for .5 seconds) and it seems that tynamo is only found within caves or cave-like areas, so my guess is in a cave
unless they decide to be quirky

[coarse karma]

I'd enjoy Elektross's presence.

[clear lichen]

It has been stated to be able to live in water iirc

Just that you usually find it in electrically charged caves

[quaint matrix]

My darkhorse out of left field thought is that the Seismitoad line is coming in

[tacit saddle]

but you can find an elektross in sv in the water i think ?????

[quaint matrix]

Or the Unova fossils

[full bison]

It's a Viridian Forest encounter in Remix mode for some reason

[outer matrix]

Wow the deep sea part 2 happens in 12 hours

[clear lichen]

It's also based on an aquatic animal

[quaint matrix]

I'd be very shocked if I'm somehow correct on that one lmao

[clear lichen]

Being the electric eel

Which btw is not an eel

So Eelektross is not an eel Pokemon

[tacit saddle]

Ive been lied to

[clear lichen]

:/

[tacit saddle]

im PISSED

[umbral river]

Ooh it's not an eel?

[clear lichen]

It's an electric eel, and hence not an eel

[tacit saddle]

its a KNIFE FISH?

[clear lichen]

Blame whoever called this not eel an eel

[tacit saddle]

While true eels are classified in the order Anguilliformes, the electric eel is actually in the order Gymnotiformes, the knife fishes.

[clear lichen]

"They crawl out of the ocean using their arms. They will attack prey on shore and immediately drag it into the ocean."

Confirmation that Eelektross is aquatic

[tacit saddle]

wtf is a knife fish

[clear lichen]

This is the Black dex entry

[umbral river]

That's really cool

It says that they're more closely related to the catfish

[coarse karma]

Plot twist the entire remaining 8 slots are all water pokemon tha ks to eelektross trying to drown us after attacking us once we exit the submarine on shore.

[full bison]

Knifefish example that isn't the electric eel

[umbral river]

It also says that electric eels need to surface to the air every 10 minutes to breathe?

[coarse karma]

^ not serious btw

[tacit saddle]

Strange beast

it is having no thoughts

[clear lichen]

I cant believe Eelektross would do this

Well I can

But that's besides the point

[tacit saddle]

eelektross is an asshole

[umbral river]

It also says that the true eels live in saltwaters but electric eels live in freshwater

[full bison]

I'd be over the moon if Eelektross could have Electric Surge considering it has no other abilities, opening the door to Frog giving it another ability like he did Delibird and Flygon

[umbral river]

I love how this implies that Eelektross is being added by itself, no Tynamo or Eelektrik

[tacit saddle]

FUCK tynamo

[clear lichen]

RIP Tapu Koko

[umbral river]

No I LOVE TYNAMO

[full bison]

I'd like Terrain teams to not be dependent on the Tapus

[clear lichen]

Where's Tapu Rilla when you need him

[umbral river]

Tapu Boom

[quaint matrix]

Ngl Frog giving Delibird Snow Warning as HA is kinda peak

[gray vine]

Tapu Fele my beloved

[full bison]

Looking through all the Pokemon left with only one ability, the most eligible Mons for Psychic Surge would be Chimecho, Electric Surge would be Eelektross, Grassy Surge would be Carnivine, and Misty Surge... I have no clue

[quaint matrix]

Tapu Nitar

Tapu Toed

Tapu Obama

[clear lichen]

Weathers are not terrains

They can coexist

[quaint matrix]

[umbral river]

Tapu Thatsubscribebutton

[tacit saddle]

Tapu Bama

[clear lichen]

This means that Politoed is not Tapu Toed

[tacit saddle]

and HIT that bell

[clear lichen]

But instead, Kyoed

[coarse karma]

Well. Lets all remember the anomaly. That Eelektross is not a water type. Which still boggles my mind 15 years later.

[clear lichen]

... Wow that's an ass name

Primal Politoed?

Idk

[full bison]

I'm not gonna complain about no weakesses

[umbral river]

No it's a Electric / Ross type

[quaint matrix]

Honestly my theory crafting yesterday of Drizzle Hurricane stab with Drizzle now got me wanting Pelipper

It's gonna be so peak

[tacit saddle]

my favorite type

[coarse karma]

^

[full bison]

besides, not every aquatic Pokemon needs to be Water.

[umbral river]

Yeah some of them need to be Butler type

[tacit saddle]

is dhelmise aquatic

[coarse karma]

And this is a plus cause we wouldn't be getting a 2nd water type.

[full bison]

I'd say so considering it's haunted seaweed

[clear lichen]

... Would Electric/Water be better than pure Electric?

I mean, resisting Fire, Water AND Ice is kinda sweet

Sucks to lose the Electric resist though

[tacit saddle]

i think so, just not on a levitate electric type i think

[clear lichen]

It's not like Grass is a very common offensive type

I mean you'll see like

Giga Drain

Uhhh

Grass Knot

Ummmmm

[coarse karma]

This makes me wish lanturn was stronger. Its volt absorb really helps fight prevent all but grass which- oh you just said what I was gonna say about the grass type lol.

[clear lichen]

Power Whip maybe?

[full bison]

Grass is a good type alongside something like Fire

Look at Hearthflame Ogerpon

[umbral river]

To be fair for the pure-Electric typing, this is Gen 5, the game where before the postgame, the only Pokemon available to catch are Gen 5 Pokemon
And the only other pure Electric type line from that game is the Zebstrika line

[clear lichen]

Fair

That's like one of the only times you're gonna see a Grass move, as Coverage on a Fire type

[umbral river]

Also, even counting all the other Electric-type lines, there's only like 4 from Gen 5. And one of them is Stunfisk all by itself

[clear lichen]

Ig some defensive mons are Grass types and will run their STABs

[tacit saddle]

stunfisk...

[clear lichen]

And tbf Power Whip from a Ferrothorn is a bit scary

[umbral river]

(You also get Thundurus / Zekrom though, depending on your chosen game)

[clear lichen]

But like in Eelektross' case, it learns Flamethrower so it isn't too bad

[full bison]

I saw a video yesterday about some guy saying Ferrothorn was awful on a BW playthrough team and I wanna know what he was on

[coarse karma]

Man the steel type stunfisk was such a creative regional variant for it.

[quaint matrix]

Well the best uses for it is as a bulky setup staller tbf

[full bison]

Cause I used Ferro in my BW playthrough and it was cracked AF

[quaint matrix]

Oonga boonga brain don't wanna wait for more than a turn to start sweeping

[tacit saddle]

pain in the ass in game but yeah

[umbral river]

It was

[clear lichen]

Ferrothorn is still great in a playthrough, just that it isn't a necessary component since you don't really need hazards or a defensive wall in a playthrough

[full bison]

Curse Ferrothorn ate up everything and swept like mad with Gyro Ball

[clear lichen]

Tbf I think hazards are egg moves in Gen 5 for Ferrothorn

But it's still a formidable wall with pretty decent attack

You can't say that it is bad, just that you don't need a Pokemon with its role on a playthrough

[quaint matrix]

Very happy for all the Grass love in this chat

[umbral river]

We all are herbivores in chat

[quaint matrix]

God knows that type needs it when GameFreak does not give it any

[umbral river]

We all eat grass

[clear lichen]

Grass is at worst a C tier type

[tacit saddle]

i love grass types

[clear lichen]

Definitely not like D tier

[quaint matrix]

Yeah that's Psychic nowadays

[tacit saddle]

man im tired.

[umbral river]

I'm also an ice-type lover and as an ice-type lover I'm a GameFreak-type hater

[clear lichen]

And Bug as well

[full bison]

Grass has way too many good support options to be a bad type

[quaint matrix]

Ehhhhhh Bug is shafted more from the severe lacking quality of the Pokemons

[tacit saddle]

also grass has lurantis

so

[clear lichen]

Bug and Psychic are the only types I'd say are D tier when it comes to viability

[quaint matrix]

Not necessarily the type's fault

[clear lichen]

I do think Bug is slightly better than Psychic

But I still think it's a D tier

[full bison]

The type is absolutely partially at fault

[quaint matrix]

Psychic is absolutely bad on its own fault tho

[full bison]

it has like no good offensive profile

[hardy tartan]

🙀 the submarine was made by Boeing???

[full bison]

and defensively is super lacking

[clear lichen]

I do like Bug and Psychic types a lot more than other Pokemon in general I feel

[quaint matrix]

Yeah because it got stuck being the "haha remember catching bugs in your childhood and releasing them cuz they're weak/dying?'

Type

[clear lichen]

Hey, it has like a few nice defensive niches

[full bison]

"A few" being "It resists Ground"

[quaint matrix]

They need less Ledians/Beedrills and more Volcaronas/Scolipedes know what I mean

[clear lichen]

It's like a different, overall worse Flying type in that regard

[umbral river]

"Bug-Type is weak" people when they have to fight a Slither Wing player in Pokemon Close Combat

[clear lichen]

But hey it dropped the Ice and Electric weakness

[full bison]

Slither Wing when Bird:

[umbral river]

(i hate 6a spam i hate 6a spam)

[quaint matrix]

Bug to me is redeemable with just a few more quality changes

Psychic just needs actual fundamental buffs

[clear lichen]

Bug defensively definitely isn't that bad

[tacit saddle]

like how ice got a buff in 9

[clear lichen]

It's definitely workable

[full bison]

Fairy should not have resisted Bug and should've been weak to Psychic

[clear lichen]

Meanwhile, what are they cooking with Psychic

[quaint matrix]

Shit at this point why is Psychic resisted by Steel now

The overcorrection is done

[tacit saddle]

physic types: think think BRAIN BLAST

[quaint matrix]

It succeeded

[umbral river]

Why is Fairy resisted by Steel

[full bison]

Because faes don't like metal

[quaint matrix]

Let's get the type back to where it should be

[hardy tartan]

Cold Iron

[clear lichen]

We don't need to fucking buff the Fairy Type alright

[quaint matrix]

Yeah like

[umbral river]

Mother look I farmed replies

[quaint matrix]

I sure fucking hope Fairy gets resisted by Steel

[clear lichen]

Fairy and Steel like the 2 best types in the game tbf

[quaint matrix]

Stupid ass type

[clear lichen]

But nerfing one to buff the other is uhh

[tacit saddle]

Grounded

[clear lichen]

Not ideal

[umbral river]

[clear lichen]

Can we like nerf both

[quaint matrix]

It definitely feels like the Pokemon meta hinges on Steel as being the balancing factor

[tacit saddle]

can we nerf everything except normal

[quaint matrix]

Anything that it resists or is weak to and the meta scrambles

[clear lichen]

Psychic and Bug seeing this message:

[umbral river]

Screw the meta, buff normal types beyond comprehension

[clear lichen]

Normal's like a C tier type probably

[quaint matrix]

Normal just needs to be resisted by Fairy

[tacit saddle]

what qualifies as normal

[quaint matrix]

And then be effective to it

[clear lichen]

It's like if Psychic was only half nerfed into oblivion

[full bison]

Bug is such a bad type that people never say "Weak to Bug," they say "Weak to U-Turn" lol

[quaint matrix]

This one buff and Fairy stonks will go so down you'd love to see it

[umbral river]

With C-Tier being very much in the middle

[tacit saddle]

like what are the characteristics. i have no idea

[umbral river]

I guess you could say that normal type is a very.... normal type

[clear lichen]

Normal is one of the best types in Gen 1, though it's hard to tell how much of that is the broken fucking moves and Pokemon and how much of that is the type

[quaint matrix]

I think it's just the Pokemons being broken

And Fighting being Z tier

[clear lichen]

You'll definitely see some people nominate Normal as the best type in the game

But usually they're considering the fact that Hyper Beam is broken as fuck

[tacit saddle]

Why Is Grafafai Normal

[quaint matrix]

If Fight as a type actually gets some real shit and Pokemons that matter the Big 3 wouldn't be those guys

[clear lichen]

And that the top 3 best Pokemon excluding Mew and Mewtwo are Normal types

[quaint matrix]

Gira is normal, the Farig tail is not

[umbral river]

Because it's like Smeargle but if it was silly

[tacit saddle]

not girafarig

[umbral river]

Smeargle but it was twisted

[quaint matrix]

Wtf is that

[tacit saddle]

gen 9

[quaint matrix]

Oh

[tacit saddle]

smeargle but its evil and demented

[quaint matrix]

I mean it's giving Pyroar energy idk

[clear lichen]

An Aye Aye

[umbral river]

An aye aye for an aye eye

[quaint matrix]

Mostly super realistic animal but very emphasized with the first type

[umbral river]

I like Grafaiai I think it's a silly little goober

[quaint matrix]

Anyway nerf Water

Stupid ass type

[clear lichen]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aye-aye

[umbral river]

can

can ice

[clear lichen]

Definitely would be nice

[umbral river]

can ice be super effective against the water

[tacit saddle]

pls.

plEASE

IT NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME THAT IT ISNT SUPER EFFECTIVE

[quaint matrix]

Idk why they even made Freeze Dry

[clear lichen]

Fire's like a B tier, Grass is like a C tier, and then we have Water that's arguably top 3

[quaint matrix]

When just making it effective against Water is just the way

[umbral river]

I know nobody's mentioned Ice Type yet

[clear lichen]

It's a C tier type

Extremely strong offences, extremely poor defences

[umbral river]

But I think Ice Type is another type that I think could use a crumb of a buff

[quaint matrix]

I think Ice being super frail offensive demon of a type is fine

[tacit saddle]

i really like froslass

[quaint matrix]

It just needs more Pokemon that leans in there and less being

[clear lichen]

But WHY THE HELL ARE ALL THE ICE TYPES SLOW AND BULKY OR JUST WEAK AS HELL

[quaint matrix]

Well

[umbral river]

Yea

YEA

[quaint matrix]

Whatever experiments GameFreak felt like bullshitting up today

[clear lichen]

80/80 offences

I can't

[tacit saddle]

ZA, give us some justice...

[quaint matrix]

"resists Water" lol

Damn I can't hear you over the sound of me, a Water type, having Ice types as coverage because we're Water

[umbral river]

If they don't think that Ice Type Pokemon-design-wise is good for making speedy offense demons then don't make its stats be designed for speedy offense demons

[tacit saddle]

why does water resist ice it gives me a HEADACHE

what does it mean!!!

[quaint matrix]

No no no

[clear lichen]

Hey at least most Water types don't get Freeze Dry

[quaint matrix]

Clearly what this means is that we should make Ice/Rock pokemons

That's what's failed with Avalugg right

[clear lichen]

Well, apart from the Water/Ice Ubers Robo Penguin that is the fastest Ice type in the game

[tacit saddle]

ice-electric sounds like a nightmare

[clear lichen]

I'm pretty sure it's also tied for fastest Water type with Barraskewda

[umbral river]

Ice/Electric sounds like a rightmare

[quaint matrix]

It's a very funny typing combo

Kinda just trades neutrally in resistance and weaknesses

[tacit saddle]

ice-electric with levitate for fun!

[quaint matrix]

I oughta make one for one of my playthroughs these days tbh

[umbral river]

I once came up with an Ice/Poison type Pokemon
It was a snowflake-themed spider

[clear lichen]

Ice/Electric Type is so strong that they gave the type to a Pokemon with mid ass stats that is slow outside of having Slush Rush and it is still UUBL

[quaint matrix]

Oh look who's on the scene of the fkin crime

Water

[tacit saddle]

slush rush sounds like a mario kart track

[umbral river]

It really does

God imagine Mario Kart, but it has like, stupid ice physics

A track with zero traction

[tacit saddle]

NO

[fair atlas]

( =w=) ....still want Spheal.

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-tummy-slap-belly-slap-pokemon-gif-3721550777642990712

[tacit saddle]

also opinion moment: best dual typing

[quaint matrix]

Anyway my hot take is that Poison should be super effective against Water

[tacit saddle]

pollution!!!!!

[quaint matrix]

Literally

[clear lichen]

Electric should be SE against Steel if it is SE against Water ngl

[quaint matrix]

Poisoning the water supply

Trash and shit

[clear lichen]

Idk if that's balanced from a game design standpoint

[umbral river]

My hot take is that Normal types should be immune to Dark Types because normal people can't see stuff in the dark and if you can't see it then it doesn't exist /j

[clear lichen]

But I mean we shouldn't pretend Pokemon is balanced

[fair atlas]

Electricity is not resisted by Steel because steel isn't melted or broken by electricity, but it also travels through it just fine.

[quaint matrix]

If I can't have Ice and Poison being effective against Water just lemme have one of them at least please GameFreak stop with the Water bias

[tacit saddle]

factual

[fair atlas]

Dark is called "Evil" in the original game. It's not Dark as in literal darkness.

[quaint matrix]

I think Fairy types should be blanked by Normal types but no one's ready for that conversation

[clear lichen]

Psychic honestly would make sense being SE against Steel with the whole bending metal thing

[tacit saddle]

normal types just having massive brains so they resist dark's trickery and fairy types fantasies

[quaint matrix]

It's very clear Steel only resists Psychic relative to the overcorrection made in Gen 2

We're way past that

[clear lichen]

Psychic buff leak fr?

[tacit saddle]

normal types have bigger brains than psychic. not effective

theyre too strong

resists dragons cause dragons arent real

🫵

[umbral river]

My other hot take is that Fairy Types should be weak to ground types because fairies can be caught in glass jars as proven by Legeng of Zelda, and what is glass made of? Sand

[quaint matrix]

No silly that's the Fairy's job

[tacit saddle]

acgtutally fairy types should be weak to rock because i drop rocks on them and thye smush

like bugs

[umbral river]

If humans are weak to getting rocks dropped on them, what type does that make them?

[tacit saddle]

bug

[clear lichen]

Ground is like a top 6, arguably top 3 type idk if we should buff it

[clear lichen]

Bug

[umbral river]

That's when I hit you with the change to make Ground Types weak to Steel Types because of shovels

[clear lichen]

Steel is a top 2, arguably top 1 type

Game Balancover

[umbral river]

That's when I hit you with a metal pipe

[quaint matrix]

Unironically?

Maybe not effective to Ground

But Steel could maybe be resisted by less types

[umbral river]

Wait but you're probably Water-Type because humans are 70% water

[quaint matrix]

I'm thinking Electric and Fire only idk

[umbral river]

And Water resists Steel

[quaint matrix]

Isn't the common theory that humans in Pokemon are Psychic types

[tacit saddle]

but bullets are made of metal

and we all know how that goes

[umbral river]

Hm... then I guess humans aren't 70% water

Clearly we're actually 70% Ice

[glass patio]

humans r normal/water type

[tacit saddle]

we're all 70% gay

[quaint matrix]

We're all secretly Bidoofs....

[full bison]

I'm honestly surprised Water isn't SE against Steel, but I guess Water doesn't really need to be any better

[tacit saddle]

we're all GOD

[glass patio]

and the people that go to the gym r fighting/water

[tacit saddle]

if theres one thing to take from avatar the last airbender, its that water is OP as fuck

[quaint matrix]

It needs to be resisted by Steel if anything

Yes yes Steel shouldn't be better but also

[tacit saddle]

regional variant

[quaint matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-philosophy-philosophical-choices-will-difficult-marvel-gif-16615025

[umbral river]

I'm Water/Ghost

[clear lichen]

I'm stupid

[umbral river]

What types is stupid type resistant to

[full bison]

If Pokestar Studios is to be believed, Black Belts are pure Fighting type and have the ability Huge Power. With 100 in all stats

[clear lichen]

Everything because I'm unaware of what the fuck is happening

[tacit saddle]

im flying/poison i think

[umbral river]

That's kinda OP

[tacit saddle]

im OP

[clear lichen]

I'm also resisted by everything dw

I'm an agent of Big Stall

[umbral river]

Resisted by everything because all of your attacks the enemy just says "Nuh uh I dodge" and you go "oh okay"

[clear lichen]

Fr

[tacit saddle]

*kills*
*dodges*

[umbral river]

I'm Water/Ghost because I'm drink water :)

[tacit saddle]

you're drink waber..

[umbral river]

drunkern

[tacit saddle]

sunkern

[umbral river]

Evolves into Drunflora

[clear lichen]

If one's type was deduced by their favourite types, I'd be fucked

[tacit saddle]

new type: fucked

[umbral river]

What types are fucked resistant to

Ahhh you beat me to it

[tacit saddle]

[quaint matrix]

Grass lovers always fighting an uphill battle 😔 ✊

[clear lichen]

Ykw, better than I thought, it resists Ground, Grass, Psychic and quad resists Fighting

[umbral river]

Dang, quad resists fighting all by itself

[clear lichen]

But it also has 6 weaknesses, including Flying, Rock, U-Turn, Ghost, Fire and Dark

[tacit saddle]

its just that good

specifically u-turn?

[umbral river]

Well yeah that's what the type is called

[clear lichen]

I was only gonna list bad weaknesses, but all of these weaknesses are bad

[tacit saddle]

ohhhhh

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[umbral river]

Fucked type being resistant to Psychic type feels wrong

[tacit saddle]

if youre fucked

youre susceptible to brain stuff

[umbral river]

Susceptible?

I think history's proven it's the opposite

Wait

[clear lichen]

I was about to say

[umbral river]

No I flipped around the definition of susceptible

[clear lichen]

But I think you realised

[tacit saddle]

yeah means youre weak

[umbral river]

I'm fucked

[tacit saddle]

water/fucked type

[umbral river]

Ghost/Fucked specifically

[tacit saddle]

wrong

because you drink water

🫵

[umbral river]

Oh no

I'm double fucked now

[tacit saddle]

fucked/fucked

[clear lichen]

We're just shitposting at this point

[tacit saddle]

fucked has a move where it changes the opponents type to fucked

[gray vine]

Uwu

[umbral river]

The move is called "Assignment Due Tonight"

[clear lichen]

No not like that

[tacit saddle]

HAHAHA

THATS GOOD 😭

theres a type called depression and one of its moves is "divorce"

[umbral river]

Depression type is weak to Psychic

[clear lichen]

Damn, I lost my Psychic resist

[tacit saddle]

is it weak to dark too

[umbral river]

I'm just gonna drop the joke there

[tacit saddle]

since dark is like

trickery

maybe manipulation

[umbral river]

Depression is actually

It's like Ice Type

But all the Pokemon are made to fit what it's given

Where it has like very little to no resistances but it can just go ham on a lot of other types

[tacit saddle]

its reason for depression depends on its other type

depression/ghost?

depression/grass is a paradox

[umbral river]

Depressed because the ghosts don't pay rent

[clear lichen]

I lost the conversation like an hour ago

[umbral river]

Oh no

I

[tacit saddle]

depression/fucked

[umbral river]

I'll help u find it

[tacit saddle]

where did you last have it ❤️

[clear lichen]

In #pif-hoenn-discussion

[umbral river]

Ye where'd u last see it

[tacit saddle]

oh no

[umbral river]

Oka

Okay where in here did you maybe lose it

Retrace your steps

[clear lichen]

Uhhhhhh

Idk

[umbral river]

Well I tried all that I could do

[tacit saddle]

ill buy you a new one

[umbral river]

Don't worry

Yea

We can buy you a new conversation

[tacit saddle]

💸

[clear lichen]

How much does a conversation cost

[tacit saddle]

uhhh

[umbral river]

It's called "Is Depression A Competitively Viable Typing"

[clear lichen]

I wonder if someone actually made a depression type in one of those many type rom hacks

[umbral river]

See you can't diss my guy Manicrane, speedy sweeper with access to Credit Card Decline

[clear lichen]

This conversation has derailed I'm gonna leave to find the train bye

[tacit saddle]

LMAO

[umbral river]

Hope you find the train else you'll have a new typing

[tacit saddle]

we went from eelektross to "what would depression be weak to"

is depression weak to grass

[umbral river]

Yes

[tacit saddle]

whats it strong against

[umbral river]

Depression

[tacit saddle]

ahhh i see

[umbral river]

And

[tacit saddle]

reverse dragon treatment

[umbral river]

And

Ghost

[tacit saddle]

why ghost

[umbral river]

I don't know it just is

[tacit saddle]

is it strong against normal

or will depression be the first type weak to normal

[umbral river]

No that's Fucked

[tacit saddle]

Ohhh i see

[umbral river]

Yeahyah common misconception

Especially since a lot of Pokemon with Fucked also are depressed

[tacit saddle]

thats the ones that are in debt

[umbral river]

Yeah they all learn Credit Card Decline when they evolve

[tacit saddle]

theres also a student-themed line

[umbral river]

Sorry I flipped it around

They learn Credit Card Decline to evolve

[tacit saddle]

oh God

[umbral river]

Like Mime Jr learning Mimic

[tacit saddle]

theres a line for all walks of life

because everyone gets fucked by debt

[gray vine]

So they are also American typing

[tacit saddle]

the AMERICA TYPE

[umbral river]

Yes

What's America Type weak to

[gray vine]

Never had dept before can't relate

[tacit saddle]

grass, again

[gray vine]

Freedom

[tacit saddle]

hear me out:

flying

beCAUSE OF AIR QUALITY

i had to CORRECT that

[gray vine]

I Def took that in a towering direction

[tacit saddle]

NO

[umbral river]

But they're resistant to Fire, Normal and Water type

[gray vine]

My trust in this air quality is twindeling

[tacit saddle]

fire because fireworks

[vocal pivot]

Technically fire and steel

[tacit saddle]

[umbral river]

America being weak to steel is incredibly funny to me for reasons that are not bad reasons

[tacit saddle]

flying/america = bald eagle

[vocal pivot]

Because what are bullets made of?

[tacit saddle]

oh.

oh GOD

[umbral river]

Fucked type

[tacit saddle]

BWAHAHAH

[vocal pivot]

[tacit saddle]

[vocal pivot]

And what do you see when something explodes?

[tacit saddle]

nintendo type

[vocal pivot]

Often a massive burst of heat

[umbral river]

I just wish they'd buff the stupid type a bit more

[unkempt stone]

No way

Another new fish

You know what that means

[unkempt kernel]

Crawdaunt

Or Clawitzer, clawitzer would be hype

[quaint matrix]

Yknow what

I hope it's Skrelp line

I'm calling it here

[deft obsidian]

It's one slot pokemon

[quaint matrix]

Oh

[deft obsidian]

Luvdisc for sure

[quaint matrix]

[deft obsidian]

Or maybe manaphy

[next flare]

We can still get skrelp in 2 of the other 8 slots

[unkempt kernel]

Relicanth

[next flare]

Hopefully

[bitter comet]

Can’t wait to watch the people scream

[gloomy rover]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-wake-up-gif-19887467

Here is hoping this round friend gets announced.

[stoic sluice]

Oh we would swimming today :)
So what are your suggestions?

Alomomola or luvedisk?

[fair atlas]

Knowing Frogzilla, I wouldn't put it past 'em to have the announcement be something like

Torkoal fused with Magikarp or something

No matter how much I want Sphealy boi

[vague fog]

Would be nice to see it be clawitzer, but I saw it be said in here that it would take up only one pokedex slot

[hot hamlet]

Don't knock it. Yes, we have a missing single gap in the announced mons, but we also have 8 consecutive mons unannounced that this could be instead

[vague fog]

that is true. they do go out of order sometimes

[dusty arrow]

ITS GONNA BE ICE TYPE MAGIKARP

I SWEAR

ITS GONNA BE IT

WE ARE SO BACK

[alpine rune]

[vague fog]

wonder what the odds are that 4 of the slots are the cosmog line

[alpine rune]

would actually be low-key funny if the game has overworld static encounters of discord jokes

[alpine rune]

-# 0 and I will make sure it stays 0

[dusty arrow]

yall know what garchomp fusion is in the middle of the loading screen

[alpine rune]

Good question

[dusty arrow]

im thinking houndoom because of the spikes

spikes and horns*

ok its not houndoom

[alpine rune]

feraligatr?