pif-hoenn-discussion

[sleek hornet]

Indeed.

We need more of that

[dusty arrow]

plus ground fits with where we find helioptile and heliolisk in xy

[dusty arrow]

the only one is sandy shocks right?

[sleek hornet]

And also stunfisk

[dusty arrow]

oh yeah, the silly fella

[sleek hornet]

Yeah, love that lil guy lol.

And that’s litterally it T-T

[dusty arrow]

a stunfisk evo would go insane as long as it gets an ability that doesnt prevent paralysis as a pokemon with two paralysis immune typing

rotom-fan with levitate and air balloon vs stunfisk with limber

[sleek hornet]

Oh gosh that would hurt so much if they gave it a redundant ability. T-T

[dusty arrow]

gives it volt absorb

[sleek hornet]

[dusty arrow]

idk if volt absorb heals ground types or not tbf

i know marowak has lightning rod

[outer matrix]

If the clues lead towards fruits, then what Pokémon have or is a fruit that is able to join IF

[dusty arrow]

bounsweet

[sleek hornet]

Cherrim

And Slurpuff

[dusty arrow]

i wouldnt mind any of them tbh

all of them are cool

[sleek hornet]

Same

[twin phoenix]

Tropius.

[dusty arrow]

and slurpuff could make funny belly drum unburden strats

[sleek hornet]

And Le CREME

and it’s cute derpy face can make such adorable fusions!

[dusty arrow]

in some aspects i like swirlix more than slurpuff

[white meadow]

It's boi sweet

[dusty arrow]

his face is cuter and i love that it can float

[sleek hornet]

Yeah same

[dusty arrow]

both of them are silly guys

[sleek hornet]

Indeed :3

Though I wish it had kept the fluff. T-T

[dusty arrow]

bewear shouldve been fairy/fighting imo

[sleek hornet]

Riiiiight!?

It makes more sense for it imo.

[quaint matrix]

Ngl I kinda like that it's Normal/Fighting more

It's just Ursaring that learns to be cuddly and actually learns some martial arts

[sleek hornet]

I don’t mind either way

[dusty arrow]

like, many fairy types are "im cute but i will kill you"

either way, i still love bewear

[zenith quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-fairy-type-animations-animated-cartoon-gif-10592379

[molten latch]

Wut da dawg doin?

[sleek hornet]

Dawg be cooking it seems.

[outer matrix]

Guys, what if the reveal is gourgeist?

[glass patio]

it’s slurpuff

[outer matrix]

We are near October and Halloween, and the images kind of hint towards this with the autumn forest

[full bison]

On a related note, we had two red fruit hints now. Sorry to the Minior squad, but it's probably Miniover

[glass patio]

it’s gourgeist

[coral axle]

I want slurpuff so bad

[glass patio]

slurpuff and gourgeist are epic

Why did i say not epic

Omfg

My brain is not working

Brain not work

[inland jewel]

i thought the riddles weren't related to the pokemon at all

only that the mon shows up in the following images

[full bison]

If it is Gourgeist, which form's stats do you think will be used? Cause there's no way we're getting 8 slots of Mons with basically no differences

[glass patio]

they have different stats with the sizes?

[full bison]

Smaller Gourgeists are faster, bigger ones have more HP

[glass patio]

Huh i didn’t know

[glass patio]

Wait so like

Ok so arceus is in the game and has plates right

They don’t have to be forms that change the sprite

It could work like that

So you can still have either hp or speed depending on what fusion you wanna do

[full bison]

just having arbitrarily different stats with no immediate way to tell the difference sounds infuriating

[glass patio]

i mean true

arceus is different

because you give it an item

and you can see the typing

[velvet root]

It sounds like Slurpuff
But didnt the first riddle say its nothing many voted for

[glass patio]

Damn i had no idea gourgeist would be such a problem

[full bison]

I imagine they'd just give it Super Size's stats, either that or the average size

[glass patio]

Would it be fine to give it average stats

[glass patio]

Yeah that

[full bison]

My big thing with all the photos, if they are indeed relevant to the Pokemon, is how disconnected they all are

First a cave, then a forest, now a kitchen

All I can think of with all that is something like Marshadow

[cobalt river]

I imagine that was part of the riddle for it being in the concept craze channel- which iirc doesn’t have voting or rankings, just a collage

[glass patio]

ok so each location represents a minior core color

[hollow creek]

From what ive heard the riddles were to help people find the actual clues, the images

[twin phoenix]

Also a stick in their hands? Cherubi has no hands.

[glass patio]

in which way? Idk

But they do fr fr

[hollow creek]

So the riddle about a cherry lead to a clue about the cave being found

[fathom ridge]

are all the riddles for different pokemons?

[hollow creek]

No

Theyre clues leading to images that are clues for the same pokemon

[twin phoenix]

Red on a tree.. Zygarde cell looking ahh. Couldn't even give points to legends.

[hollow creek]

What we know about the mystery mon is

• It could potentially be in a cave, maybe shy
• It is either white or orange, when regular or shiny
  _ Could potentially be in a kitche helping cook

[fathom ridge]

i hope we get to know the next mon is soon all this riddles and clues are confusing

[outer matrix]

guesses: gourgeist or slurpuff

[hollow creek]

I feel like vanilluxe is also an option

[fathom ridge]

ribombee could be related to food

[twin phoenix]

Milk and cream, of course!

[fathom ridge]

i feel like ribombee is the only one thats maybe possible one that i would be exited about

[velvet root]

Pls not them

[hollow creek]

50/50 between slurpuff and vanilluxe

[outer matrix]

Is slurpuff even found in caves?

[full bison]

cave, kitchen, forest just feels so disconnected

[velvet root]

Well the line is found near caves

[hollow creek]

From the frog perspective both are equally likely too i think, both have fusion and gameplay potential

[full bison]

Slurpuff is pretty much only in grasslands

[velvet root]

If I remember all the spawns

[fathom ridge]

sooooo the riddles are for individual pokemon and when someone makes a sprite of that pokemon we get an image thats a clue for the new mon?

[hollow creek]

The riddles are all about a fruit, and what chat the next clue will be in
The clue is related to the new pokemon

[inland jewel]

The riddles is to get a specific word. you use that word to search message histories to get the actual clue

[hollow creek]

As for spriting, idk

[twin phoenix]

Maybe it travels a lot like a roamer would?

[full bison]

the latest riddle has me convinced the riddles mean nothing to what the Pokemon proper are

[glass patio]

Why not 😔

[fathom ridge]

okay so the clues for the new mon are the 3 pictures

[full bison]

How many remaining Pokemon "Carry progeny on their back," and also grow more vivid as they age?

[glass patio]

Look i’m not a slurpuff fan with the pokemon by itself but the fusion potential is awesome

[hollow creek]

yee

[fathom ridge]

a cave, a kitchen and a forest... maybe ribombee?

[inland jewel]

yep, the riddles could have something to do wit hteh mons, but at this point its highly unlikely

[full bison]

that's obviously just a strawberry, which doesn't have a Pokemon rep

[velvet root]

Cuz I prefer Mons that have fair sprite potential
Not only good sprites when there is a good spriter

[glass patio]

ig thats kinda true

[full bison]

Most remaining mons have solid sprite potential

[fathom ridge]

none of the pictures could be related to vikavolt 😔

[velvet root]

We already got quiet some pokemon in the update that need some skill

[cobalt river]

Slurpuff having creative potential does not mean it by itself is a complicated design its literally just a goop dog with a cherry.

[glass patio]

that’s also true

[twin phoenix]

Like Kommo'o and Golisopod?

[full bison]

Anyways, unless the kitchen is one of the houses that was caught up in the Ultra Ruin Fallout, that's my Ultra Beast cope done and dusted

[cobalt river]

Kommo and Golisopod just have a ton of overlapping and/or tiny parts, id call those harder to work with in general yeah 😔 they def fall under the lines of Pokémon where its clear they no longer had to restrain themselves to pixel sprites, so they could give more details

[mystic crystal]

Yeah slurpuff can be super simple to make work. Just make the pokemon white with some pink goop, and a cherry if you're feeling fancy. Might not look amazing but it'll get the job done

making a simple golisopod or kommo? I'd say is almost impossible, even with a simple recolour. They're really complicated designs that, like ribbon said, don't lend themselves to pixel art very easily

[dusty arrow]

i feel like slurpuff/gardevoir could make a princess peach reference alt tbh

oh yeah i need to finish my new pokemon discussion team, uhh

[dusty arrow]

YOU
you will be part of the team

choose a sprite and you will become it ig

[hollow creek]

I think what zero meant is that the best slurpuff fusions generally go really above concept

[twin phoenix]

A sprite for what?

[dusty arrow]

basically
i choose random people in here to be part of my team and ill name the pokemon in the team after them

[hollow creek]

Like adding things that arent on slurpuff's regular design

[dusty arrow]

gurgy and bucklin are two of the people in the team

the other one is zerocipher-

[twin phoenix]

What do I choose from?

[dusty arrow]

uhh just any sprite ig, but it would make the most sense to choose a sprite you made

[twin phoenix]

I fuse a lot of legends.

[dusty arrow]

idrc lol, i dont even care about type match ups in this team as long as they are sprites the person likes-

[silent acorn]

Delphox/Golisopod

Me

[dusty arrow]

i would if those were in the upda

[silent acorn]

Shiiiiie

[twin phoenix]

A sprite I like, huh..

[silent acorn]

Well then second option

And i didnt finish it but hey someone made one

[silent acorn]

Blissey/Froslass

[dusty arrow]

this one?

[silent acorn]

one day ill finish my baby

[silent acorn]

Oh look absolutely wonderful

[twin phoenix]

I like this one a lot. My Palkia/Ho-oh.

[dusty arrow]

damn that looks amazing-

[twin phoenix]

Two legends but not a reference.

[dusty arrow]

i love the galaxy in the middle of the sprite

[silent acorn]

Honestly you are gonna have a good time with this one

[hollow creek]

What pride flag is that

[silent acorn]

Ultimate dodge

[twin phoenix]

Bigender.

[hollow creek]

Neat

[silent acorn]

Um Hello i identify as BIG thank you very much

[dusty arrow]

you want any specific nickname or just wanna have it as pinkpalkia

same with you houndrys

[deft obsidian]

:0

[twin phoenix]

I've yet to think of a Gothitelle idea with space effects, but people see her for her bows and not her abilities.

[silent acorn]

Hounrys works

[twin phoenix]

PinkPalkia is fine. :3

[silent acorn]

One day ill feel good and bring it over

[dusty arrow]

alright

5/6 of the team then

[silent acorn]

If anyone wants to use it as is go ahead

[deft obsidian]

Paper > pixel = based
I meant palkia username because I draw my concept in paper first.

[dusty arrow]

also the wings on this look great too

shout out to the bigender flag for looking amazing

[twin phoenix]

Yeh, I thought it would look good out of all of the flags and I wanted to pick one that wasn't as well known.

[bitter comet]

We getting the birgmite line, because doesn’t like Avalug carry it’s children on it’s back?

[dusty arrow]

next time we getting ice type magikarp trust me chat

december 12th!!!!

[twin phoenix]

Oh.. I was thinking of an ice type because of the fixes thirst by morning hint which is like the sun melting ice into water.

[dusty arrow]

i mean that does make sense

but if ice type magikarp melts the world is doomed

[bitter comet]

Same

[silent acorn]

The gender flags do have nice palettes most of the time

[bitter comet]

If it’s not Avalugg the other option, I feel would be the vanilite line

[dusty arrow]

yall forgetting another one

https://tenor.com/view/cryogonal-cry-about-it-pokemon-cryogonal-about-it-gif-8982074869133840720

[bitter comet]

As much as I would love my boi to be added, the riddle just doesn’t sound like it’s for him

[half needle]

ill put this here too

5/5 is its literally a fruit, 4/5 is it has fruit on it, 3/5 its closely associated with fruit, 2/5 its fruit related in trivia, 1/5 its fruit related by a big stretch, 0/5 its not fruit related

[fathom ridge]

i would add ribombee to the chart i think it has some possibilities to be the one

[half needle]

mkay

[gray vine]

Wasn't another hint cave related or are we assuming the 2 hints are 2 different mons

[bitter comet]

I can’t believe there’s a viable chance for the monkeys to be added…

[half needle]

nah there was only 1 cave hint, the other 2 are a forest and a kitchen

[outer matrix]

Can pumpkiboo be added to the image?

[fathom ridge]

How are the monkeys a 3/5 on fruit and ribombee a 0/5 also I think with all the honey stuff it could have some kitchen relation? Idk tho

[half needle]

read the attatched numbering guide

[fathom ridge]

Where

[half needle]

literally like 10 messages up

[fathom ridge]

I think ribombee could be fruit related by a stretch since you could say it pollinates flowers that make fruits

[half needle]

nah not even close enough to be a stretch

[fathom ridge]

Well then how are the monkeys related?

[half needle]

some talk about berries in their dex entries

[cobalt river]

Crabrawler/Crabominable (Crabrawler is found in berry piles in game, Crabominable shiny is white with orange/reddish details, Crabominable is said to be tasty so kitchen relation) ((id be so sad if its these two but since they’re fighting and ice type I consider them decent chances rip))

[half needle]

like pansear roasting berries before eating them

[velvet root]

Ooooh good point
I would love to see those ugly guys

[half needle]

eh, better than shaymin

guess wise

[fathom ridge]

Well I can buy that tbh, I still think that since ribombee is a bee it should get at least a 1 but tbf is your list so yeah

[half needle]

not pokemon wise

i dislike crabominable

[half needle]

its not a bee its a bee fly

[velvet root]

Fun Crab boi

[fathom ridge]

Oh yeah that’s literally cutiefly

[hot hamlet]

No idea where “assist in kitchens” comes from but third riddle kinda solidified Cherubi for me.
In milk and cream a flavor dream meaning Ice Cream, or the cherry on a sundae

[half needle]

that doesnt make me like crabominable any more

[fathom ridge]

Do those things pollinate plants

[half needle]

you're playing checkers in a game of chess here mate

[half needle]

its fuzzy so i assume so

[hot hamlet]

Wow, thanks for the insult

I’m going back to Ace Attorney. You guys have fun running around in circles

[velvet root]

Thats a you problem

[half needle]

you can take it as an insult if you want but just know that we've figured out the riddles are to find the pory hints

the pory hints seem to be the hints for the mons

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ribombee-pokemon-mallow-lana-pollen-gif-538074989533683093

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-anime-pokeani-crabrawler-anipoke-gif-25043983

[bitter comet]

[fathom ridge]

I think if they changed the face of crabbobinable to be a bit less ugly it could make the design a lot better

[hot hamlet]

I pop in here every 6-ish hours or so. I’m stuck in a car most of this weekend. Sorry for not being up to date when I don’t get any responses to “we have new info?” Like I asked last night

[velvet root]

But its the whole point
He should be ugly

abominable is in his name
He is based on a ugly ass Yeti

[fathom ridge]

He should be ugly in a different way imo the face it has doesn’t look like a beaten up brawler it just looks like a dumb guy

[velvet root]

And a yeti crab
And boxing

[fathom ridge]

I do appreciate crabbobinable tho

[velvet root]

I mean if you decide a beaten up Cartoon char the face fits

Its always sad when people dislike intentionally ugly Pokemon because they are ugly

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-garbodor-gif-9507170

[velvet root]

Another example of that

[hollow creek]

trueeee

TRUE.

caps lock moment

https://tenor.com/view/stunfisk-evil-pokemon-laughing-heh-gif-13031118

https://tenor.com/view/binacle-barbaracle-pokemon-anime-gif-1843617017963443781

[velvet root]

I mean isnt Bruxish also based on "Pretty ugly"

[fathom ridge]

This was putted here before and I think it improves the crab and it is still ugly

Now that I think about it crabominable also kinda looks like an egg

[velvet root]

The designe is too complicated for a non pseudo or legend tho

[fathom ridge]

Yeah but that’s mainly just the hair

[half needle]

agreed

thats ugly in a good way

[silent acorn]

You took my jerb!

[velvet root]

Ofc more people would love it
And its sad that he isnt more in that direction
But I think that would show too much of cool than ugly

[silent acorn]

JK

[cobalt river]

The original design is just as complicated 😔 i love garbodor but Crabominables like. School snot nosed child face it has feels very unfitting

[silent acorn]

Ni que fuera Grip

[fathom ridge]

Yes I actually took it from your message

[velvet root]

But props to the artist trying to keep it ugly

[silent acorn]

Something can look ugly and yet in its way appealing

[fathom ridge]

My favorite ugly Mon is alolan muk

[silent acorn]

Purugly for example

[fathom ridge]

Purugly should not be the final evo

[dusty arrow]

i want crabominable in just because i like his typing and hes a silly fella

[ember bear]

just because a pokemon was made that way on purpose doesn't mean it's good

[fathom ridge]

I think crabominable would make for some super cool fusions and it could potentially take up the troll spot from volbeat

[velvet root]

I also think the redesinge lost a bit of that Friend feeling you can have
And it lost the idea of brawns over brains for it
Idk if I remember the words of the saying right

[silent acorn]

My favorite ugly mon probably goes to Skunktank

It is ugly

It is a skunk

It does what it says on the tin

I dont know if Drapion counts as ugly

[ember bear]

is it a tank?

well ig if you kinda see the tail as some sort of cannon

[velvet root]

Now it does depend on your definition
Do you mean bad execution?

[silent acorn]

It is actually

Thicc

[fathom ridge]

Tbh I could just take the new face and I’ll be better

[ember bear]

and get rid of that randomly blonde hair

[silent acorn]

Gonna be honest, i dont think they intended Crabominable to be ugly

[fathom ridge]

I have to be honest, I don’t know if crabominable was executed the best way

[silent acorn]

It feeks like the accidental ugly like Ambipom

[velvet root]

Did you read his name?

[silent acorn]

I mean Aboma- snow?

[fathom ridge]

Abomasnow is ugly, but it is cool ugly

[silent acorn]

Abominable snowman didn't necessarily meant Hideous ass Hell

[velvet root]

So are many mons
Even those people like

[silent acorn]

Cool ugly is good, cool ugly is great

Embrace that ugliness

[velvet root]

I mean we have 2 abominable snowman pokemon
It works better if they use diffrent aspects of that inspi

[fathom ridge]

It takes a lot of effort to make something that’s ugly and cool

[silent acorn]

Crabominable feels like it got the ugly smudged on its face when it was Crabrawler

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/abomasnow-pokemon-shiny-abomasnow-curry-shiny-curry-shiny-abomasnow-gif-23295968

[silent acorn]

Cipher i dont know if you noticed but...

[velvet root]

Not really ugly imo
Its more the form

[silent acorn]

It has SpongeBob teeth

[fathom ridge]

Maybe, still cool tho

[velvet root]

And?
Those type of teeth are common to show idiots

[silent acorn]

Look i hate the face

Its so goddamn bad with those weird eyes

[fathom ridge]

Snovern is better tho

[silent acorn]

Even pelipper eyes look better

[velvet root]

Werent the eyes those weird googles

[silent acorn]

Nope

[fathom ridge]

How would it look if we just changed the eyes

[velvet root]

You know cuz he went higher up as he evolved

[cobalt river]

Passing the time thinking about aromatisse still Do not care enough about Crabominable to speculate what could be with that one

[silent acorn]

this here? THIS HERE! WHY?!

It feels wrong

Like this bit was recycled from a fairy or ghost pokemon

[fathom ridge]

Imagine having crabrawler your entire play through and when it evolves in the final area it turns into this guy

[fathom ridge]

Giving it a neck is such a good idea

[velvet root]

I cant find gnoggins crab video but I remember there was one qwq

[orchid flume]

Imagine thinking you'd be able to evolve a pokemon from the first island before entering the fourth island. Man did they mess up the timeline to evolve Crabrawler in Sun/Moon, lol.

[gray vine]

I was happy

I didn't like crabrawler much but it's a crab mon so I had hope it evolved

[silent acorn]

This is precious, genius. Move adding the neck

[fathom ridge]

Were you spoiled or was it your first time seeing the crab?

[gray vine]

First time

Funny yeti

[fallen loom]

Mr. Lana Killer

[fathom ridge]

Well then good for you

[full bison]

I don't like how Abomasnow's 3D model shows that it's mouth is always hanging open

it's hidden behind the fur but you can still see it

[gray vine]

You would need to show me cause i been using one in the DLC and didn't notice anything off

[half needle]

purugly doesnt even look ugly, i think japan just dislikes fat people

[silent acorn]

Mostly grumpy

Still like it

Atleast is cooler than Alolan Persian

[velvet root]

Lets discuss about a unpopular Pokémon that I kinda like

[fathom ridge]

Oh this is true, like why does it look like doraemon

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/grumpig-pokemon-pig-pokemon-grumpig-ready-to-fight-gif-12839734600013034244

[fathom ridge]

Yesyesyes

[fathom ridge]

Is this guy unpopular?

I think it’s kinda average ngl

[velvet root]

Nah its pretty unpopular as far as I know

[silent acorn]

Its popular so... Nope

[velvet root]

But since this vote I saw it more often and it is kinda fun

[silent acorn]

For real though

[velvet root]

Since when XD

[silent acorn]

If i had to say a mon I always seen as average Grumpig would take that spot

[fathom ridge]

I mean spoink is cuter but if I was playing for the first time and I evolved spoink I would think ”yep that looks about right”

[silent acorn]

Honestly if i evolve picked it because its cute looking and then it evolved id be like "Ok time to ditch this one"

[velvet root]

Welp I mostly saw people shit talk it or just straight up dislike it

[fathom ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/binacle-barbaracle-pokemon-anime-gif-1843617017963443781

[silent acorn]

I dunno what to tell ya man

[fathom ridge]

I got this guy shiny in sun and moon

[silent acorn]

To me its like looking at a Sakura Poster

[hollow creek]

think i forgot about like the definite ugly on purpose pokemon

[silent acorn]

This boyo is actually underdog alongside Diggersby

[hollow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/druddigon-dragon-claw-gif-26863692

[fathom ridge]

Drudigon is not ugly

[coral axle]

He baby

[fathom ridge]

It looks cool

[velvet root]

I like that guy too
He is on my White 2 team

[hollow creek]

ITS GOOD UGLY

https://tenor.com/view/druddigon-pokemon-druddigon-dragonite-pokemon-gif-9508562915546910449

[ember bear]

druddigon looks more incomplete than ugly

[fathom ridge]

Drudigon is a bit weird it feels like it should evolve or evolve from something

[ember bear]

yeah that's what i was about to say

[hollow creek]

I like it as a single stage

[fathom ridge]

It feels a bit plain imo

I do like drudigon tho very cool guy

[silent acorn]

Not gonna lie

I dislike the red head

[fathom ridge]

Fair

[silent acorn]

As a gargoyle enjoyer it doesnt do enough with its concept

[velvet root]

Inspired by a specific lizard tho

[silent acorn]

Which?

[coral axle]

It’s a cool lizard

[coral axle]

I love him

[silent acorn]

Why is that better

Than the actual mon

[silent acorn]

Seriously why is Druddigon lesser that?

[velvet root]

Maybe the Gargoyle part ruins it for you?

[silent acorn]

I dont know

[fathom ridge]

another controversial mon that i like is dudunsparce

[silent acorn]

They dont mix well

Its actually ok once you sit down and listen son

Because its inspiration

Was made to dissapoint

[fathom ridge]

yeah its the ultimate troll

[silent acorn]

Its the lesson that in life, somethings will dissapoint you no matter what

[fathom ridge]

they should give it a mega thats just another segment to just let it be clear that they are trolling

[half needle]

i really like druddigon tbh

[coral axle]

Same

[silent acorn]

you know the clashiest thing about Druddigon are the colors

[half needle]

its like such a weird design but in a good way

[silent acorn]

Personal opinion this one

[fathom ridge]

what if you gave it the red head with the black body?

[silent acorn]

Take it with a grain of nacli

[half needle]

its warm colours and its friendly eyes yet the way it tries to look intimidating speaks to me on such a deep level, i love him

[steel meadow]

pokemon fan when something has a bad color scheme/shiny = make it black or white

[silent acorn]

Maybe could look interesting

[half needle]

nah, not even bad, just unusual

[ember bear]

zekrom™

[fathom ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/nacli-pokémon-pokémon-horizons-salt-mushroom-gif-12545041017008519359

[silent acorn]

Its true, but not less true that a bad palette and color choice hurts the eyes

[silent acorn]

For a gargoyle would have been fine

[fathom ridge]

i mean if it works it works

[half needle]

he has all my favourite shades of red, blue and yellow

he's beautiful

and i hope he gets added

because i want to sprite him

[silent acorn]

Uh hu

[half needle]

as head and body

[silent acorn]

Uh hu

[ember bear]

i mean it kinda looks like zekrom with those colors

[half needle]

why do i sound like im saying my wedding vows

[fathom ridge]

oof idk about another dragon tbh

[ember bear]

the pose, the little wings

[half needle]

till art block do us part

[silent acorn]

Because you are hopeless romantic not realizing they are touching rough skin

A maso if you would

[half needle]

id kiss his little snooty wooty then id do it again

[tender plank]

omg same frfr

[deft obsidian]

but but Drudigon doesn't have lips

[half needle]

i didnt say i was going to kiss it on the lips

its a dragon'

lmao

give it kisses on its nose like a kitty

aka his snooty wooty

[fathom ridge]

well that makes this conversation a lot less weird

[silent acorn]

Lizards don't have noses either

[half needle]

he has a snoot

[silent acorn]

Neither

[half needle]

let me draw a diagram

[silent acorn]

They have breathing holes

[silent acorn]

That moment when someone treats their lizard as a dog

[deft obsidian]

Real

[silent acorn]

Crunch

[tender plank]

Oh, the dream...

[fathom ridge]

shiny kyogre vs primal shiny kyogre

[deft obsidian]

So pokemon fans made shiny for primal kyogre?

[fathom ridge]

idk ask game freak

[deft obsidian]

[half needle]

they might have if pokemon fans went and worked for game freak in between gen 3 and gen 6

[gray vine]

Primal decided to paint its nails tho

[white meadow]

So we confirm slurpuff?

[fathom ridge]

primal groudon also has the normal shiny nails

[fathom ridge]

[white meadow]

Imagine if it's tsarena 😭😭🙏🏻

Then what is the main theory

[fathom ridge]

i hope its vikavolt haha...

[gray vine]

The normal shiny nails? The nails aren't colored for normal shiny Kyorge

[fathom ridge]

i mean that groudon shiny is green and primal groudon shiny has green nails

[gray vine]

Considering all the cherry and tree Cherrum

[white meadow]

If it's cherrim I end it all

[gray vine]

Ah thats how you meant it

[half needle]

i really do think it's going to be slurpuff considering how popular it was in the vote but a mythical is also likely

[fathom ridge]

slurpuff doesnt really fit with the cave or the forest tho

[half needle]

i can see it being in a forest, and the cave looks like its out in the open, so it may just have been peeking around in there

[fathom ridge]

idk the cave looks deep to me

[half needle]

yeah but i mean the pic was taken in the open

is hwo it looks

[fathom ridge]

is still weird that slurpuf would just walk into the cave

[swift bison]

Next Pokemon for PIF is Cherrun

[sharp nebula]

nah its lilligant

[zealous lichen]

did we figure out all three riddles? ive been absent

[hot hamlet]

I’m not getting involved after I was called “playing checkers when everyone is playing chess” for saying Cherubi because of riddles

[zealous lichen]

lol

people need to stop being rude

[proud lion]

Did Frogman's technical difficulties get fixed?

[fathom ridge]

#general message this is the latest update

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-stock-image-gif-27117830

[fathom ridge]

hopefully frogman can solve all of this soon

[opaque ether]

This actually looks really good. A few tweaks and you can easily turn this into a regional form.

[dusty arrow]

reminds me of 2014 godzill with the colors

just saw someone head over heels for druddigon and im not sure if they are joki

[stable flax]

druddigon is awesome

[hot hamlet]

At this point I’m wondering if I should pt2 that meme I made a few days ago.
No Shiny Locking
No Friendship evos
And No Sprite Repo At The Moment!

[hollow creek]

In case the reveal is tomorrow I wanna get my predictions on, it’s either slurpuff or Vanilluxe

Gn Chat

[dusty arrow]

i just discovered something

why is turtonator not fire/poison??

[weak trellis]

there's a lot of fires that get Smog for some reason

checks* in fact more fire types learn it (including turtonator) than actual poison types

[dusty arrow]

i mean smog can be generated from fire, buts its generally poisonous to inhale, thus the poison type ig

[crimson tartan]

Do they have all the Regis in yet?

[dusty arrow]

yeah

also chat what do i name my heracross

[proud lion]

Yes; not counting Gen 8

[dusty arrow]

in this romhack (its not if)

[crimson tartan]

Honestly I’m just happy the 4 OG Regis are in

[dusty arrow]

i settled on the name megalon because megalon is the best kaiju

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-godzilla-vs-megalon-megalon-dashing-running-gif-23695276

[glass patio]

that’s how you treat lizards yeah

I don’t see the problem

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/bartan-ultraman-kaiju-gif-13318055

I named my Scizor to Baltan

So Megalon or Vail is a good name

(BTW I'm a Tokusatsu fan)

[cerulean topaz]

Random thought but as much hate as the gen 5 monkeys get, i at least see some fusion ideas for it. Bouffalant on the other hand feels like its on the sidelines entirely, no one even thinks about it. Also maractus.

I feel like theres not a lot of maractus or bouffalant fans lol

[molten latch]

Bouffalant fans are rare

But Maractus Fans are quite alot

https://tenor.com/view/gholdengo-pokémon-maractus-dancing-rave-gif-7231443877627343983

[cerulean topaz]

I do love maractus as a bunny fan

I just remember people complaining last year that the cacnea/cacturne reveal might be a troll into maractus

[odd current]

meow. < (it never occurred to me that maractus is bunnies...)

[high haven]

Bro out of the two Cactus mons we have in general, Maractus is just so happy to be here I love her for that

[sinful smelt]

Ok, so for the second riddle it's slurpuff? Or what is it?

[alpine rune]

I like how this gif synchronizes with the song im listening

Well almost

The last frame has a lag

[molten latch]

What music?

[alpine rune]

some vocaloid

[molten latch]

What vocaloid song

[unkempt stone]

I like Maractus as a silly little creature

Maractus cute

[fossil gull]

Gotta break out this in celebration of the riddle hinting at it

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/gholdengo-pokemon-gif-15242883686812850684

[half needle]

EXACTLY

[marble meadow]

the question is does melmetal count as gen 7 or gen 8 mon

[fossil gull]

I know this sounds nuts but: In milk and cream, A flavor dream. With trine and trine, array the nine

Milcry and Alcreamie are milk and cream respectively

Flavour dream since they come in multiple flavours

Array the nine, there is nine flavours

[full bison]

I'd be inclined to believe that if it wasn't a Gen 8 mon and we didn't already basically confirm that the riddles themselves likely have nothing to do with the mon getting revealed

[velvet root]

Today we see something nice

[steel meadow]

Alot of nice stuff is coming today

[full bison]

also how does Alcreamie carry progeny on its back

[fossil gull]

I was focusing on the last parts

[alpine rune]

ayo why are these so cool

Especially the Gholdengo

[full bison]

Clearly the Pokemon getting revealed is kartana cause it's partially orange, found in a forest, and likes to cut things so it'd enjoy helping in the kitchen

I'm not coping, you're coping

[twin phoenix]

No new hints, huh?

[full bison]

new hints typically come around the afternoon

[twin phoenix]

I'm in a different time zone. The previous hint was dropped in the morning.

[fathom ridge]

I wonder if the next image will make it really clear what the next Mon is

[velvet root]

More Mystery Goats

[fathom ridge]

Garvantula skiddo head and body?

[next sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/raquaza-deoxys-pokemon-battle-royale-terminal-montage-gif-14160134

[velvet root]

You will see in around 3 hours ^^

[velvet root]

But I say only one side of your guess is right

[silk narwhal]

What's up wih this secrecy

[next sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-hp-mcgonagall-minerva-mcgonagall-hedwig-gif-25730841

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/jumanji-animals-elephants-rhinos-zebras-gif-25511859

nothing

[steel meadow]

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/hoopa-gif-20243481

[velvet root]

After Sebs request I gave it a alt

[zinc thorn]

is that new riddle talking about the whipped dream then or something

[silent acorn]

Seems tropiusus to me

[zinc thorn]

That would be a fun addition

[velvet root]

Banana dino

[inland jewel]

I think we need more Rhinos in Pokémon

[velvet root]

True
More Rhinos can be fun

I would like a Wolly one

Or a Paraceratherium

https://tenor.com/view/wwb-bbc-stomping-animal-wild-life-gif-17288109

[inland jewel]

The wooly rhino would be a slow bulky ice type though 😦

And then have. Dex entry that says: when charging they can get up to 80 mph

[silent acorn]

Debatable, i just think it kinda fits the riddle

Fun fact

Tropius aint in the top 6

[velvet root]

Or a fast physical ttacker

[silent acorn]

Considering Chien Pao i think Ice Fits the Sabertooth more

But since it was done

Lets go with the... Mammoth pokemon

Except this one has snow warning

And both defenses high

Oh and its reasonably fast with decent attack

Doneso

35 BST SPATK

Give it avalanche, ice hammer and Boom

Its ready

[half needle]

i count it as a gen 8 mon even though it came out before gen 8

just because it has that vibe

i think it was either originally a lgpe or pogo pokemon

but i think pogo

[full bison]

Double Iron Bash is one of the Move Expert moves, so it's addition is probable

[tender plank]

I mean Melmetal DID get a G-Max form so I can see why you count it as such

[half needle]

it really depends if its portable to pif or not

[quaint matrix]

Did it ever exist in any fangames with FRLG's code

That was one of the main things that made it hard right cuz every Gen 8/9 new moves and pokemon needs to be started from the ground up like Pokerogue

[half needle]

frog could do it manually for just these 2 pokemon if he decides he wants them in the game

[hot hamlet]

So did Charizard, Pikachu, Meowth, Eevee (trails off)
This line of thinking is not conclusive

[tender plank]

I was just saying bc it was the only other special attention they got outside GO (I think)
but i could always be wrong

[half needle]

yeah but this is a legendary/mythical so it seems special to get a gmax

cause its the only mythical that does

i dont actually know which it is

[hot hamlet]

Let’s Go was their debut and that is a Gen 7 game. Therefore, it is Gen 7

[tender plank]

fair

[half needle]

yeah, TECHNICALLY, but we're talking about what we count it as in our opinion

[tender plank]

ngl i also forget meltan is gen 7 too

[hot hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-the-dude-your-opinion-gif-4476328

[proud lion]

The Slurpuff fusions in Spritework gave me a jumpscare for a second

[hot hamlet]

Why?

[half needle]

yes thats what we're discussing

[half needle]

lmao i feel that

[hot hamlet]

How does Slurpuff scare you?

[coral axle]

I adore those fusions

[proud lion]

How they were back to back and thought they got revealed silently

[hot hamlet]

Ah. No, there was just a LOT of sprite-based propaganda when the contest was going on

Think they’ve been posting them as they get completed now

[full bison]

we had a decent amout of Cherubis back when we were convinced that was the mon getting added

[hot hamlet]

Honestly the Slurpuff fusions are why I’m on board with a mon I otherwise didn’t like the base design of

[half needle]

nah theyre by the same person i think they just like slurpuff

[full bison]

Slurpuff would be a nice injection of simplicity compared to what Kommo-o and Golisopod have subjected the spriters to

[proud lion]

I did my share as well

[half needle]

agreed

[half needle]

ditto

[hot hamlet]

pancake crab… crab cake

[full bison]

Though I have to admit the idea of Cherubi being added has grown on me. Not sure if it's because I'd love to see more Cherry blossom fusions or it's just my arrogant side wanting to be right after reading the 1st riddle, but hey

[half needle]

i want cherrim in really badly too, but not as much as i want slurpuff in

[hot hamlet]

I hold reservation until I see how well it can be done in fusions

[coral axle]

Me

Cherry blossomssss

[hot hamlet]

That was my main point in the polls. Slurpuff shared all it s designs and got me onboard, others just said “vote this!!!” And shared no evidence it could be done, so I voted it lesser with the stipulation “show me what it provides and I’ll up the score”

[full bison]

I'm just imagining a droopy Overcast Cherrim/Torterra fusion with what looks like a Weeping Willow ending up in sunlight blossoming into a cherry blossom tree. Maybe something more high concept too, like Cherrim/Volcarona capitalizing on Volc's Seraphim inspiration by having closed wings in Overcast, blossoming into radiance in the sun

Also from a gameplay perspective Cherrim could be a fun pokemon for Sun teams by giving it viable stats

[twin phoenix]

I expect great designs for Cherrim/Trevenant or Cherrim/Sudowoodo.
Especially a reference to a Tree of 40 Fruit.

[hot hamlet]

You’d have to consider the sprite. We have three options based on other mons:

• one sprite for both forms like Aegislash
• Two entries like Lycanroc
• free switching between like Meloetta and Necrozma
  Personally I see it could be options one or three myself

[twin phoenix]

Hmm.. it does have a condition to transform, it being sunny weather.

[full bison]

I feel like the forms are distinct enough in appearance and statline to warrant option 3

[twin phoenix]

I feel like the Forces of Nature would get free switching as well.

[hot hamlet]

I can see free switching being reserved for legends/mythicals though

[full bison]

pretty much every non-legendary Mon with different forms are either aesthetic differences like Florges, or battle gimmicks like Wishiwashi, so free switching being legend-exclusive is logical

[silent acorn]

Oh they revealed it finally

Its Cherrim... Heh i knew it

[molten latch]

Could be Slurpuff or Tsareena

Dont get your hopes up

[twin phoenix]

I got bamboozled for a bit..

[grave jolt]

Oricorio already exists

[silent acorn]

My second last name is HounRuSe

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-cute-shiny-pokemon-squirrel-gif-26992650

[full bison]

nothing's been revealed, we've just been theorycrafting how Cherrim would function

[grave jolt]

Pachi still has a chance!

[silent acorn]

Id hope out of battle change

Though in battle its fine

It mostly gets a buff

[molten latch]

Same goes as Spheal

[silent acorn]

Though honestly id prefer if they just let the spriters pick one or the other

Since Cherrim doesnt have stat changes. To BST or base typying

[grave jolt]

Sealions do live in caves sometimes lmao

[full bison]

Checking Bulbapedia, apparently Cherrim's forms only have different statlines in Legends Arceus. So that could probably throw a wrench in things

[silent acorn]

The forms are cosmetic and the main thing is Overcast

[silent acorn]

Why?

Its not necessary

We dont even have the Snowstorm mechanic

[grave jolt]

It's because the ability also gives a stat boost on activation

[silent acorn]

Yeah?

And?

Its a flat boost

Not a bst change

To be honest forms are cosmetic on Cherrim

Only for decor

When it activates flower gift

Not like Darmanitan who is like two completely different pokemon in 1

By the way

Shaymin is another Darmanitan case

[grave jolt]

They did it like that in Arceus because no abilities and it's probably supposed to represent a bst change.
In actuality the ability just gives the boost while the form change is inherent to cherrim.

[fallen loom]

no, it's Alomomola because pink and fish and food

[silent acorn]

Maybe but its eh

Overcomplicating the introduction because Flowergift doesnt make sense

Its not like Castform where the form change is necessary for gameplay

Or purism

Plus

[grave jolt]

Since afaik weather boosts are still broken I think just giving the form a bonus to bst would be simpler.

[silent acorn]

The Enclosed Cherim looks kinda neat

Could make some hex maniac like designs with it

[silent acorn]

I mean... You still have to add the form change in battle

Which is why i said seems pointless

[trail hull]

Gogoat has taken over #1050404143807873157

[silent acorn]

Specially since base pre PLA didnt have BST

Meaning they would have to implement that change themselves and as Frog Mentioned that breaks stuff

Whats with this stampede?

[faint kiln]

you should go find out mayhaps, might be some cool rewards for spriters and non-spriters alike

[bronze barn]

goated.

[tender plank]

we're just simply goated with the sauce

[stoic canopy]

…gogoat+gengar=grogar from MLP.

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/grogar-discord-angry-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-gif-17680608905920360756

[stoic canopy]

Yep that guy

[steel meadow]

GOAT STAMPEDE

[velvet root]

Yep Goats can do many references too
For the people who likes those

[twin phoenix]

Goat stampede?!

[stoic canopy]

Meh, it what my mind went to when I thought gogoat.

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/goats-goatherd-running-goats-stampede-goatsmilk-gif-12693781

[silent acorn]

GOAT IT

[velvet root]

Pov the Spritework atm XD

[silent acorn]

I bet the Mods Don't Goat what it takes

To deal withe Goat Army

[whole tinsel]

Let's GOAT a Goat army to HoF as soon as Gogoat is announced

[trail hull]

you know gogoat has over 200 sprites ready for when it gets in pif

[whole tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/excellent-happy-mr-burns-simpsons-satisfied-gif-16091269

Well I GOAT to go

[velvet root]

There is already a Goat HOF

@steel meadow

[outer matrix]

Imagine if every single gogoat fusion was done before it got announced to join IF

[velvet root]

That will be a long time uploading stuff

[silent acorn]

Lemme get in the spirits hold up

I GOAT THIS IN THE BAG

[velvet root]

I didnt even have time to do all the Goats I wanted

[silent acorn]

You Goat this brother

[outer matrix]

I just checked #1050404143807873157 and that's a lot of goats

[silent acorn]

NOT ENOUGH GOATS, GOATTA MAKE MORE

[outer matrix]

no

I'm not making some

[velvet root]

but maybe one

[velvet root]

OMG YOUR A GOAT NOW

[silent acorn]

I AM GOATTHAN JULIANI YOU GOATTA TO MAKE SOME

[silent acorn]

I GOAT GOATTEM

[outer matrix]

I just woke up from trying to sleep for a few hours straight; no goat from me

[velvet root]

later maybe?

[trail hull]

the armagoaton or goatmagedon

[outer matrix]

Melo goat?

[velvet root]

Would be awesome

[glass patio]

goat 🗣️

[outer matrix]

|| The only idea I got for gogoat/meloetta is basing it off of oktober fest ||

[velvet root]

@grave jolt had the idea of a Satyr with a pan flute

[outer matrix]

what's that?

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/disney-hercules-notwhatihadinmind-gif-24566097

[velvet root]

Half Goat half Human thing from greek mythology

[vestal wharf]

When's the next mon getting announced

[velvet root]

Hard to find stuff from greek mythology that isnt nsfw

[tender plank]

hey guys the riddle here

[grave jolt]

Thx dnd

[velvet root]

but basically that
She also has a pan flute on the lower side

[proud lion]

New hints

[vestal wharf]

What hints

[proud lion]

Hopefully tomorrow

[proud lion]

In the event announcements

[merry shale]

Have we got any version exclusive added?
The ones I'm thinking about are Drampa and Turtonator.
I don't know if gen 8 mons were added so how about Hattereen and Grimmsnarl? Or toxtricity?

[velvet root]

That new hint sounds like a spell XD

[merry shale]

Type Null and Silvally?

Any of the Ultra beasts?

The Paradox future and past versionsM

?

[velvet root]

no

[white meadow]

punkaboo=

[green thicket]

It’s tropius

[grave jolt]

[white meadow]

i think its punkaboo

[vestal wharf]

Furred cannonball?

Darmanitan?

[full bison]

Coconut

the hint refers to a coconut

[vestal wharf]

A liquid?

[full bison]

cannonball from up high cause falling coconuts hurt people

[full bison]

coconut milk

[vestal wharf]

What pokemon is related to coconuts in some sort of way

[white meadow]

punkaboo

[vestal wharf]

Ok

That's a pumpkin

Don't those grow on the ground

[white meadow]

yeah

[full bison]

the issue isn't what Pokemon is related to coconuts, it's what channel we can look up the word "Coconut" and find our next photo

[vestal wharf]

Ok

I'm just gonna check the voting thing rq

[velvet root]

#1240773622612889681 message

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/tess-spheal-gif-22641311

[vestal wharf]

I did not see that channel wtf

[sick edge]

idk why but the new riddle makes me think of Minior

[vestal wharf]

That's a meteor

[cobalt river]

Coconut, yet another point to the coconut crab ig www

[grave jolt]

We're getting alolan executor

[vestal wharf]

Coconut crab?

[vestal wharf]

Very unlikely

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/eggxecutoralola-gif-5977309

[cobalt river]

Crabominable/Crabrawler hide in berry piles, based on Coconut crabs

Im going to assume its them so my expectations stay low

[vestal wharf]

You have a point

[velvet root]

Would be cool
Also I know someone who would LOVE it

[velvet root]

Well Crabrawler is a coconut crab
Crabominable is a Yeti crab

[vestal wharf]

Alolan exeggutor is unlikely bc they don't wanna add regional forms

[cobalt river]

Point stands the line has connections to them www

[velvet root]

The Crab bois would be awesome

[grave jolt]

I'd like alolan exeghutor since it'd be loose confirmation of the other regionals

[vestal wharf]

I thought it was the 3 monkeys at first ngl

[tender plank]

yippee! more crustacean friendos!!!

[grave jolt]

Would support the monkies for if for the memes

[full bison]

found the relevant photo

[grave jolt]

Monkies triple fusion when?

/j obv

[vestal wharf]

I like the monkeys

[velvet root]

Yeah we already found it some minutes ago

[full bison]

So our photo hints are: A cave, a forest, a kitchen, and a palm beach with an Exeggutor

[civic harness]

Exeggutor again

[vestal wharf]

It can't be alolan

That would be obvious

[full bison]

"A Pokemon that kid has never seen before" The UB Cope is materializing again

[vestal wharf]

I forgot ultra beasts exist

[grave jolt]

It's Zygarde with a steel chair!

https://tenor.com/view/zygarde-pokemon-gif-16219599806655925496

[velvet root]

Zygard cells could work too

imo

[full bison]

a pale orange Pokemon that helps in the kitchen and has never been seen before... my mind can only go to Kartana at this stage

it probably isn't but I'd lose it if my insane cope is real

also Poipole cause it's basically a starter in Ultra Space so it'd be familiar with human affairs, but this is still a mega-cope

[vestal wharf]

Pale orsnge?

Helps with kitchen?

[molten latch]

SPHEAL CONFIRMED

[vestal wharf]

I swear it's gen 6 but idk what it is

[molten latch]

LETS GO!

[vestal wharf]

That's mainly white

[full bison]

Still a lot of orange

[vestal wharf]

A lot?

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/simisear-simisear-saturday-gif-14995779538577739079

[outer matrix]

It still is pale tbh

[velvet root]

Im unsure if everything that is told is the pokemon

[vestal wharf]

Yeah but does it help in the kitchen?

[velvet root]

I can also see Darumaka

[stoic canopy]

For the love of god don’t let it be the monkeys…

[full bison]

poipole is described as friendly and is apparently a common companion in Ultra Space

[vestal wharf]

Hey I like the monkeys 😠

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/anipoke-pokemon-gif-23760775

[vestal wharf]

Never been seen makes sense

But

Is it built like a coconut

[velvet root]

Didnt they use Darumakas droppings to cook or so?

[vestal wharf]

Ew

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-darumaka-love-gif-5933204300015696354

[full bison]

I admit I'm still coping a bit but I still feel like there's some logic to what I'm saying

[full bison]

they said they were shoved into clothes pockets to keep warm

[velvet root]

Okay not to cook but to keep yourself warm

[vestal wharf]

Still ew

[velvet root]

Do you like coffee?

[vestal wharf]

I don't drink it

[full bison]

So besides my insane Poipole/Kartana cope and Darumaka, what other possibilities can we think of?

[vestal wharf]

Darumaka HAS been seen before

[velvet root]

The KID never saw that Pokemon before

[vestal wharf]

Kid?

[grave jolt]

Monkies maybe, swirlix possibily

[full bison]

"hasn't been seen before," if taken to it's absolute extreme, pretty much limits us to legendaries, mythicals, and UBs, but it's only the kid so that part is to be taken with a grain of salt

[velvet root]

The never seen before part is from the kid

[vestal wharf]

No

The monkeys aren't built like cannon balls

[primal dove]

Victini?

[vestal wharf]

Hell no

They said no legends/mythical didn't they

[full bison]

"snapped a photo of the Pokemon that kid had never seen before."

[vestal wharf]

Why did I think ur pfp was mega beedrill

[full bison]

Pretty sure that was just for the vote, not neccissarily for new additions

[grave jolt]

They also said no starters

[vestal wharf]

Yep

So no tepig

[hot hamlet]

Yeah they said starters, legends, UB, and myths were excluded from the vote
Then immediately announced the starters once it was over

[primal dove]

“Cherished without a vote” no mythicals in the vote, Victini first released in a cherish ball. Is technically number 000 so is before the originals in the dex

[full bison]

I guess victini is orangeish, but I'd more readily call it red

[hot hamlet]

Retconned as the first one in the Unova section of National Dex

[vestal wharf]

I saw that

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/victini-spinning-horizontal-gif-26267753

[tender plank]

Victini is an interesting choice, I think I'd like it

[full bison]

apparently Victini's design is based on cutting little rabbit ears onto apples so it'd fit the fruit theming

[tender plank]

Either way, whoever is the mon, I think I'll find to enjoy them

[vestal wharf]

Nah but the mon helps with cooking right?

[grave jolt]

Youll get victini for beating the final boss, like you get jirachi for seeing 777 pokemon

[vestal wharf]

In if?

[gloomy rover]

It's Spheal, Sealeo, & Walrein!!

Whoo!

[full bison]

Someone please make a picture of an orange Spheal trying to cook, that sounds silly and adorable

[velvet root]

Why should it be those

[molten latch]

But it could also be Pumpkaboo

Because Octoi is getting close

[full bison]

Pumpkaboo has no arms and Gourgeist is a prick, can't really see either helping in the kitchen

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-ball-team-rocket-gourgeist-gif-15994856638088123406

[gloomy rover]

"furred cannonball" - Spheal is furry & shaped like a cannonball.
"struck by ivory flesh" - tusks are made of ivory (like for example... a Walrus' tusk)
"liquid" - water type.

[full bison]

I thought it was common knowledge at this point that the hints referred to fruit that led to the actual hints, not hinting at the actual Pokemon

[molten latch]

It could be all pokemon making in the list

Come to think of it

[full bison]

Cause all the riddles describe things that are way too different from one another to all be referring to what gets added

[gloomy rover]

I assumed each riddle was for a different Pokemon line

[molten latch]

Tsareena
Cherrim
Slurpuff
Spheal count as many pokemon taking the slots

Thats like

10 total of slots taken

Which leads to 3 slots left

Imagine the audacity that 4 pokemons where shown

[velvet root]

Yeah those 3 are Gogoat line and Torkoal

Or Furfrou

[full bison]

I don't think they'd reveal that many lines at once

[molten latch]

Its possible

You just dont dig further the future.

A vision

Like it or not, we've get to known more than just 1 pokemon

Unless those theories are debunked

[full bison]

well let's be real here

connecting Spheal to the latest riddle?

Mega stretch

how is Spheal like a cannonball from above

it's an ocean critter and it's mostly blubber

the riddle absolutely refers to coconuts

if it's referring to any Pokemon, it's Exeggutor, which again just leads to Pory's photos

[molten latch]

Strange . . .

But even then, I'm sure all 4 pokemon can re revealed at once.

[dusk viper]

I’m sorry goat stampede?

[sterile spoke]

Not an official thing. 😅

What is official and not at all wishful thinking on my part is that Ribombee will be the next announcement. 🙂

[steel meadow]

Yes goat stampede!

[rugged temple]

So do you think they'll just stop blue balling and just reveal the hidden mon by the end of the month?

[opaque ether]

I'm still holding out hope for Poochyena and Mightyena.

[steel meadow]

Mayhaps

[full bison]

My UB Cope has somehow held up this far, it'd be a waste to give up now

[steel meadow]

part of me is wondering if its just a wild goose chase and the staff doesnt have a mon to reveal

[full bison]

If it's actually Kartana or Poipole I'll lose it

but it's probably Victini

[steel meadow]

I havent actually been around for the conversations around the 3rd and 4th riddle

is that pushing the mon into victini range?

(wait what if every riddle is one mon...)

[full bison]

pale orange, likes helping people, the kid hasn't seen it before...

the hints are there

[grave jolt]

Considering the repo going down, I wouldn't say that's out of the question.

[steel meadow]

Furred cannonball from way up high
Struck by ivory flesh, and you could die
Deep in my case, you can find life
Survivor’s bliss in a land of strife
To find such liquid, pay close attention
You get two hints to solve the tension
Sprite and write,
Spread comprehension

how would this be victini though?

[velvet root]

There is a shit ton of hints

[velvet root]

Those always lead to a message

[steel meadow]

oh

i havent seen that message then

[velvet root]

#1240773622612889681 message

that one for example

[full bison]

Marshadow is also kinda a possibility considering how flighty it's being portrayed

[steel meadow]

Any mythical could fit that bill then

[velvet root]

Hell no
If Marshadow should be added he should be the last mon

[steel meadow]

If its a elusive guy

[full bison]

How many mythicals have orange on them

[steel meadow]

marshadow isnt orange is it?-

[full bison]

orange eyes

[steel meadow]

maybe its another colorblind seb moment

[velvet root]

And if Marshadow gets in before Gogoat I maybe quit

F my mental health I dont want to deal with that Depressed child

[steel meadow]

you can always do like a crazy fusion where the marshadow is dead

people do that with cubone sometimes i think

[velvet root]

If Gore would be allowed I would make Gogoat/Marshadow and its just Gogoat crushing Marshadows ugly aaahhh head with its hooves

[steel meadow]

squish

[velvet root]

Man I HATE that stupid thing soooo much

[steel meadow]

this gogoat stampede today saved my weekend

holy shit my mood is good after today

[velvet root]

Even better
IF it happens that way we do a Stampede to drown that child under all those hooves

[steel meadow]

the only thing that could add to it is if we get an announcement like "A WILD STAMPEDE OFF GOGOAT SPRITES HAS RAVAGED THE SERVER and they have now officially made it into the game!!!!"

[velvet root]

Ngl if that happens we made it and would be in PIF history

[outer matrix]

Who's the farm herder that lost the goats

[velvet root]

Idk im sure he is cool

[steel meadow]

It definetly would be a great day

I think zero would be the herder

[outer matrix]

Does the herder have a dog as well

[steel meadow]

thats the person recruiting us all into the thread were the goats spawned

[velvet root]

I started that Goat thread so I guess its me lol
Weird cuz im not a cool guy if I believe everyone I know

[steel meadow]

theyre stupid and dumb then

[steel meadow]

what sort of dog are we thinking off?

[velvet root]

Well we got some Dogs but you cant have enough with such a big herd

[steel meadow]

a non if dog?

Houndoom/gogoat is out there herding our goats

[velvet root]

You saw those dogs werent able to keep the Goats in the fence

[velvet root]

And 3 Rockruffs
and now a Lycanroc that ran with the Goats

[steel meadow]

damn we have lots of dogs

[velvet root]

I feel like I forgot one

[steel meadow]

we definetly did

i dont think we have any for arcanine line and legendary beasts (which we need to change)

[velvet root]

I check

Houndoom
2 Absol? maybe idk
3 Rockruffs
1 Zoroark? maybe
1 Zorua? maybe
1 Lycan

[velvet root]

But what are you thinking about

[steel meadow]

Oh right the absols aswell

How could i forget them they were goated in my goat only run

[deft obsidian]

I think pip made concept for arcanine/gogoat

@silent @plucky tendon

My silent pings dosen't work anymore

[plucky tendon]

/e wave

[velvet root]

That can be legendary

where is it?

[steel meadow]

wait you did?

i dont have it in my goatcept folder.

this needs to be archived and eventually sprited

[plucky tendon]

i think this looks crummy but

[velvet root]

OOOOH very fun

has a Autmn feel

If you dont want to sprite it you can send it in #1213539303876206643

[fathom ridge]

let me try :0

@deft obsidian

i think it worked

[sterile spoke]

It looks stunning! You're much too hard on yourself. 🙂

[steel meadow]

into the goatcept folder it goes! it wont be sprited by me in a loooong while though. noo way i could give that floof justice with my current skillset

[plucky tendon]

no way how convenient i love drawing fur

[deft obsidian]

@silent @deft obsidian

[plucky tendon]

also i don’t think the dappled look is possible in pixel art anyway LOL

[fathom ridge]

@deft obsidian

i just copied your message

[deft obsidian]

Weird

[steel meadow]

matin isnt allowed to do it

maybe its like a phone vs pc thing