pif-hoenn-discussion

[hallow talon]

There's no way it's a UB

[carmine glacier]

Anybody else thinks its this guy?

Primary colors gives moring / sunshine vibes. It is known for storing seeds in its beak (cherry in throat hint). And its known for being bitter / fierce in terms of fighting

[sleek hornet]

Yeah that's what I mean by red hearing

[hallow talon]

Ehhhh

[sleek hornet]

Toucanon my boi

Buuuuuuut ot's not pale

[half needle]

SHINY COMBEE IS ORANGE IS MY CRACK THEORY COMING TO FRUITION

[velvet root]

Toucanon feels meh
Its kinda nice ig idk?

[hallow talon]

It doesn't seem very spriter-friendly

[sleek hornet]

Nah, yeah Gilsopod and other spriter unfriendly mons got here some how

[vague oar]

What r y’all talking about? It’s clearly Camerupt

[hallow talon]

Golisopod is one spriters have been begging for

[full bison]

Bitter shell= hive? glistening treasure= honey?

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/tsareena-hair-flip-gif-22673778

[sleek hornet]

Ehhhh not really? I think I kind of saw more dispair

[vague oar]

Counterpoint, it is hell to sprite and we all knew it

[velvet root]

Nah many wanted Goliso

[hallow talon]

Yes but it's so cool and the sprites that it makes look so cool

[vague oar]

No, it’s really hard to actually make a Golisopod, it has really few sprites so far if irc

[sleek hornet]

Really? Hmmm Guess I didn't read the spriter chat lol

[vague oar]

I’ve only been able to do 5 Golisopod bodies and can’t make the head work lol

[tender plank]

"A stick in my hand, and a stone in my throat"
idk about the stick thing, literally nothing about that. but the stone in the throat thing makes sense, with minior being ray's stone in the throat
"High in a tree"
idk minior can float up there, nobody said anything about it having to live up there
"Red for all to see"
yes that does happen when shield down happens, if it's the red one
"Draw me
Then sprite me,"
both have happened
"Cherished without a vote"
wasn't in the spriter's poll thing, yet it's cherished elsewhere
"Preceding color, I am the first"
not sure about 'proceeding colour' but that could just be to link colour into the riddles
"When morning dawns, I end your thirst"
i do not know
"My vivid walls, pitted and bitter"
walls, like the shell, and bitter like a rock (unless that's your preferred diet)
"Surround the treasure, juicy glitter"
the core form is surrounded by the shell, and the core form is glittery?
"Each divot a pixel, every shine, a sprite"
minior shines
"Show the feel the best to win the fight"
literally what does this mean

Consensus: Minior is coming

[vague oar]

Golisopod is really cool but we all knew it was hell to sprite

[steel meadow]

i honestly would expect golisopod head to be easier to work with

golisopod is worth it though. kommo-o is hell to sprite and isnt worth it

[sleek hornet]

Yeah I feel bad for you guys

[vague oar]

Nah, Camerupt’d win

[velvet root]

Man I hate yt rn
It just threw a bunch of random bs in the My Mix auto playlist
And I like nothing there
Why do I get Naruto edits??? I dont like it qwq

[inland jewel]

600 bst says otherwise

[vague oar]

Kommo o is easier to do than Golisopod

[half needle]

i wish

[steel meadow]

yes but kommo-o is ugly

[velvet root]

since when

[sleek hornet]

My Guesses so far: Minior, Tsareena, Torkoal, Timburr, Cherubi, Camerupt, and Barbaracle

[inland jewel]

Kommo-o you can easily just do scales to cover stuff you don't want to draw

[vague oar]

Since I say so

[inland jewel]

with Goli you gotta do the arms or its weird

[full bison]

Minior, Tsareena, Cherubi, and Combee are the most likely IMHO

[sleek hornet]

Oh riiiiiight combee

[vague oar]

You misspelled Camerupt

[steel meadow]

why combee

[full bison]

Bitter shell= hive, lives in trees, glistening treasure= honey

[steel meadow]

cherupt

[full bison]

Vespiquen has a red gem on it's head too

[sleek hornet]

Oh yeaaaaah true

[steel meadow]

and the thirst is supposed to be honey?

[sleek hornet]

but is it pale though?

[full bison]

could be

[vague oar]

Camerupt has rocks on its back and the blue circles could easily be confused with gems
Or the mega could be obsidian

[sleek hornet]

The thing about it being pale is throwing me off

[vague oar]

And it’s orange

[steel meadow]

also it lives in trees... wait

[full bison]

Where in the riddle does it specify being pale

[sleek hornet]

Like what turns from red, to orange and is pale?

[vague oar]

Camerupt

[sleek hornet]

Porys pinned image on events general

[vagrant anchor]

Chingling is still the only baby pokemon not in IF

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/archen-pokemon-goofy-goober-silly-just-like-me-fr-gif-478674937810798419

[inland jewel]

juicy treasure can be referencing nector or honey

[steel meadow]

birb moment

[sleek hornet]

Nope can't be archeops

[steel meadow]

wdym cant

[vague oar]

But yea, surprisingly Camerupt fits with all of the riddles, do with that information whatever you want

[tender plank]

i never realised archen had a hexagon in their design wtf why are they so peak?

[vague oar]

I must go

[steel meadow]

it can be anything really

[vague oar]

My planet needs me

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-to-go-now-i-have-to-go-now-my-planet-needs-me-poochie-poochie-died-on-the-way-back-to-his-home-planet-the-itchy-and-scratchy-and-poochie-show-gif-20635516

[velvet root]

cya

[vagrant anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-legends-arceus-chingling-pokemon-day-gif-20549527

[velvet root]

I would like that guy

[steel meadow]

wait fuck i wanted to ask hero something.

[full bison]

What if Pory's images and the riddles point to two different Pokemon? That's a possibility

[sleek hornet]

The riddle has fruit and plant type this whole time, I can't really be anything right? Unless it's a red hearring

[dusty arrow]

when do we get ice type magikarp though

[steel meadow]

staff team could be goofing us and giving us dragalge or something

[velvet root]

Archen is closely connected to 1 fruit

[twin phoenix]

I so want Dragalge.

[steel meadow]

may 18th 2027

[sleek hornet]

Oh yeah true XD

[dusty arrow]

nah, even earlier

[steel meadow]

dragagle would be cool but my brain would explode if we got another dragon

[full bison]

Clearly pale just means Pory saw some Pokemon in it's 3DS Model

[sleek hornet]

DK what that fruit is but it is orange yeah, but it's not pale and it doesn't turn orange

[velvet root]

We get it at 12.9.[REDACTED]

[dusty arrow]

DECEMBER 12TH 2024 BABY

[twin phoenix]

But I also want Drampa and Druddigon, nooo...

[steel meadow]

what are u cooking with druddigon...?

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/charging-up-druddigon-pokemon-pokemon-druddigon-focus-blast-gif-12254701634044131458

[twin phoenix]

Cherubi is paler and a tad more orange when shiny..

[velvet root]

Cool lizard

[steel meadow]

druddigon might be like a top 30 least favorite pokemon for me

[velvet root]

y

[dusty arrow]

do people forget the stick part of the hint

[twin phoenix]

Idk what I'll make with Druddigon. X x

[sleek hornet]

Also pale, turns orange

[silent acorn]

Cherished without a vote

A stick... Hmm

Wait...

[twin phoenix]

An anti dragon shield from RuneScape? Idk

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-shiny-shiny-pokemon-druddigon-shiny-druddigon-gif-1747851759984118811

[silent acorn]

Could it be Wormadam?

[velvet root]

Orange you say?

[steel meadow]

i just dont like what it looks like ig. also 1 stage pokemon generally doesnt get alot of love from me

[tender plank]

i like druddigon.
their gen 5 anim looks like their dancing before realising they are a dragon and they claw once before resuming, just wanted to point that out.

[tender plank]

i have a very artistic mind.

[steel meadow]

do you have a reference idea for every pokemon ever?

[sleek hornet]

Don't forget the other riddle pory posted about it being pale and turing orange

[vagrant anchor]

Chingling has been left out, Its the only baby pokemon missing in Sword and Shield, and the only baby pokemon missing in IF

[twin phoenix]

Nope.

[steel meadow]

lies.

[full bison]

Please no Chingling

[velvet root]

y

[full bison]

Most useless Pokemon ever made

[steel meadow]

chimecho is really cool

[velvet root]

Wow I take that personal

[sleek hornet]

Currently looking up pale colored mons

[velvet root]

Ngl Ultra beasts are worse than Chingling
Even more that "starter" one
Like where are the others?

[full bison]

Chimecho is a garbage pokemon currently, and when given the chance to add to it, they gave it a baby form instead of an evolution

adds nothing to Chimecho whatsoever

[vagrant anchor]

I like Poipole, Naganadel just looks like a Mega Beedrill ripoff

[velvet root]

Druddi Fusions

[velvet root]

And why does that make it a bad thing for the game again?

[sleek hornet]

Noice

[full bison]

Because it adds nothing of value

[steel meadow]

so u just hate babies

just say that instead

[full bison]

Azurill makes Marill better for earlygame because Normal STAB

[velvet root]

You dont add anything of value too and we dont think you should go

[full bison]

Pichu gives Pikachu a signature move and Nasty Plot

What does Chingling give Chimecho

[tender plank]

a child

[velvet root]

One of the most fun baby preevos

https://tenor.com/view/james-team-rocket-james-pokemon-kojiro-team-rocket-pokemon-pokemon-team-rocket-gif-25114161

[sleek hornet]

I do like Chimeco slightly better because windchime

but it's preevo is fun yesh

[velvet root]

I should make more fusions when I have time

[sleek hornet]

Noice

[inland jewel]

Chimeco and Chingling have insane fusion potential, and the spriters here show it

its stats just don't hold up

[sleek hornet]

Yeah that's the problem

[inland jewel]

but then again, this game allows you to use Ledian in a somewhat useful setting in the league

you can bring Bidoof and baby pokemon if you're so inclined

[sleek hornet]

Oh yeaaaaaah

[velvet root]

Found

[inland jewel]

so its sort of not a good reason to exclude a mon due to stats or design

[sleek hornet]

I did see some one win the league witha bidoof/bidoof fusion

[full bison]

I'd accept Chimecho if they gave it Psychic Surge, which they're in a prime position to do. But you can never make me like Chingling

[hallow talon]

I think it's valid to exclude a Pokemon based on stats if there's another Mon already filling it's niche

[sleek hornet]

Yeah

[steel meadow]

that beeheyem/chimecho is goated

[hallow talon]

Learnset is what drives half the good fusion mons

[inland jewel]

I love when people try to say. "Don't include this mon its ugly" or "Don't include this mon" its useless in battle.
As if this game gives us options to have beautiful art instead, or to fuse it with a mon with better stats to get a better pokemon to use

[velvet root]

I love the Bastiodon one

[sleek hornet]

Oh that's sick

[velvet root]

Imagine there was a game like that

[inland jewel]

oh yeah imagine

[velvet root]

I also have a very close connection to Chingling line cuz it was my first ever caught shiny

after thousands of hours playing pokemon

[sleek hornet]

I saw chingling and chimecho as James's mon in the anime, it was so nice

That's another reason I love that line

[velvet root]

Chingling can also bring funny fusions cuz of it Screaming "sometimes"

[sleek hornet]

True lol

[velvet root]

aka a lot and high pitch

[sleek hornet]

Whelp one of them is based off a windchime :/

[velvet root]

What is the problem with that?

[silent acorn]

I dunno Cipher

[velvet root]

heyo Hound

[silent acorn]

Heyo Cipher

[sleek hornet]

Not saying theres a problem, I'm just saying it's based off some type of nosy nice thing like the windchime. Do you have a problem with it's scream though? Idk what chinging is based off of though

[silent acorn]

I get the high part of Chimecho

[velvet root]

I like both

[silent acorn]

Actually based on the japanese paper doll thingy

Honestly Chimecho has a better aesthethic than Chimecho

[velvet root]

Castform is more a teru teru bosu

[silent acorn]

Unfortuntaley Bronzong exist

[sleek hornet]

Hmmm Intersting, good to know ty!

[silent acorn]

Kinda? Itz also kinda Peter Griffin

[sleek hornet]

Yeah I agree imo.

[silent acorn]

Anyway

[full bison]

Bronzon would be one of the best Head fusion mats out there

[velvet root]

agree

[silent acorn]

I said it does exists but why would that be?

[velvet root]

Nah hes just a bell
and what does its preevo for it
Really F tier

[silent acorn]

Actually...

Bell is awesome

[full bison]

Amazing bronze patterns

[silent acorn]

Trombone potential

[sleek hornet]

Bell is great with them paterns and it's arms

and it has heatproof and levitate as an ability :3

[full bison]

Clearly the riddle's referring to you cause what I said about Chingling clearly has you bitter

[velvet root]

Im just a lil alergic to bullshit talk

[full bison]

Sorry you can't handle other people's opinions

[silent acorn]

why not both :v

[sleek hornet]

Oooooo that's SICK

I love it!

why not both?

[velvet root]

||( i just said bronzong is ass cuz he shittalked Chingling out of nowhere)||

[ember bear]

me when i don't care about either

[fresh yacht]

wait

what if it's drapion?

because

yeah i dont have any evidence

[silent acorn]

Don't do it. I am fond of Bronz

[fresh yacht]

but i want him in

[silent acorn]

Just as i am fond of Chimecho

[sleek hornet]

same ngl

[fresh yacht]

i need a large tanker of copium

[deft obsidian]

Well bronzong is just weak metagross with Levitate

[silent acorn]

My hard cope FRFR

[silent acorn]

It is a tank Steel mon, i like it better

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/drapion-pokémon-drapion-cross-poison-pokémon-cross-poison-drapion-uses-cross-poison-gif-26031853

I like drapion line but I fear its segments

[fresh yacht]

my base would finally be useful again

[sleek hornet]

Ah yes the circle

I love drapion one of my favorite dark types

[fresh yacht]

give him levitate

[sleek hornet]

he was one of my first mons that I used in my first game XY

[fresh yacht]

and he becomes a suitable replacement for eelektross

[sleek hornet]

No I like the eel

I want both

[fresh yacht]

so do i

[velvet root]

Drapion, first shiny I ever found... I hate it for that cuz I was on my way to buy pokeballs cuz I just threw my last one...

[fresh yacht]

im just saying he would have no weakness

[sleek hornet]

Oh yeaaaah like eelektross

mb

[fresh yacht]

that stings

[fresh yacht]

is ok

[sleek hornet]

Daang I'm so sorry. T-T

[deft obsidian]

Weird thing to hear from someone with lot scolipede sprite

[velvet root]

I suffer cuz of my fav Pokemon

https://tenor.com/view/fire-pokemon-scolipede-pokemon-scolipede-gif-8020189000058491839

But he is soooo awesome

https://tenor.com/view/venipede-pokemon-venipede-eating-venipede-eating-oran-berry-gif-10747926895461552187

[sleek hornet]

Yeaaaaaah he iiiiiiiis

[velvet root]

and look at that baby
I just want to cuddle him!

[sleek hornet]

I love the noise it makes too

[velvet root]

"Poison point activated"

https://tenor.com/view/whirlipede-pokemon-whirlipede-whirlipede-uses-steamroller-steamroller-pokemon-gif-11583417870318705132

[sleek hornet]

I used him in my second playthrough of XY, so good mate.

[velvet root]

I never got dissapointed by a Scolipede

[sleek hornet]

me neither

He a good boi

[flat herald]

He’s always struck me as an actual good bug type.

[sleek hornet]

same besides volcarona

[steel meadow]

Azumarill/Scoliopede is one of my favorite fusions ive used after the goatlocke

[flat herald]

I’d rather use volc but that’s cuz it comes with quiver dance.

otherwise Scolipede is a close second.

[sleek hornet]

Quiver dance goes HARD

[steel meadow]

Stupid powerful for how early u can get it in remix

[deft obsidian]

I used scolipede in my if playthrough
Scolipede is just awesome

[sleek hornet]

Yeah agreed

[velvet root]

Gogopede

[flat herald]

Dude is deceptively bulky and can hit rather hard

[sleek hornet]

Yeah like omg. And it's pretty fast

iirc

[velvet root]

Also other cool non if Scolis

[flat herald]

You also aren’t 4x weak to anything UNLIKE Volcarona which is double weak to one of the most common typings.

[dusty arrow]

the fusions would probably be go/goat
so gopede and scoligoat

[sleek hornet]

Riiiiight T-T

[velvet root]

And a toxicroak
Cuz I saw it in my files
and I love the sprite I did

[dusty arrow]

CRAWDAUNT ‼️
ADAPTABILITY BOOSTED MEGAHORN ‼️

[velvet root]

Japeal (the side the game uses for names etc) splitts Gogoat into Gogo and Goat

[sleek hornet]

Noice

[velvet root]

Skiddo is Skid and Kiddo I think

[dusty arrow]

i feel like go by itself would be so much funnier for name joke apts

[velvet root]

Both are fun tbh

[sleek hornet]

Yeah I like them

SO many fun name combos

[flat herald]

I 100% expect whirlipede to be used as wheels in a fusion for something large.

[dusty arrow]

hold on

[velvet root]

Also if it ends like on Japeal we could do Mr Goat and Mr Kiddo

[flat herald]

like maybe turning a Metagross’ flying animation (3D game version) and give him wheels like an ATV

[sleek hornet]

Dejavu I've just been in this place before, riding on the streets! I imagine it rolling and drifting.

[flat herald]

Legit would make a version of the batmobile with how the wheels work lol

[dusty arrow]

imma use this in my mono-bug

[flat herald]

Perfect!

The wheelybois

[sleek hornet]

LOVE IT

Or like bayblade XD

[dusty arrow]

scoligigas also goes hard as a name

[flat herald]

it prob hits like a truck

[dusty arrow]

yeah

bug/normal aint the worst typing in the world either

[sleek hornet]

OOooooo. Noice

[dusty arrow]

loses fighting weakness and gains a ghost immunity

[flat herald]

nope. It’s pretty decent, especially with both regi and scoli’s sheer bulk

[sleek hornet]

Indeed and it take and dish it out

[flat herald]

So any gained weaknesses aren’t much of a problem as long as you keep some counters.

[dusty arrow]

what is scolis speed stat again? 100? 110?

[flat herald]

idk if regigigas knows of any fire counters tho.

[dusty arrow]

regigigas gets earthquake, so

[sleek hornet]

112

[flat herald]

damn didn’t even know that

[sleek hornet]

Its p fast

[flat herald]

I was thinking he knew Hammer Arm

[dusty arrow]

so it will still have over 100 speed too

[sleek hornet]

Yep prbly

[dusty arrow]

wouldnt have any drawbacks thanks to speed boost, assuming you use sd beforehand

[flat herald]

You’d have to roll often for a speed boost one tho.

or get lucky lol

[dusty arrow]

also i find it funny how speed boost just turns v-create into a fire close dombat but with 180(?) power

[flat herald]

If you do get a speed boost one, holy god almighty you have created a monster.

[dusty arrow]

it was 180 right? or is it 150?

[ember bear]

180

[dusty arrow]

yeah

[sleek hornet]

Oh sweet heavens!

[dusty arrow]

imma send the rest of my mono bugs

although i might change one of em later

i specifically wanna change jolteon/galvantula

any suggestions?

(i dont want any type overlap outside of bug obviously)

also armalthorn is gonna be scary

bug/steel, good attack, bulky af

i wanna use a golisopod fusion but he isnt added yet

[twin phoenix]

Those are all really cool sprites.

[dusty arrow]

yeah, i wanna get something over joltantula tbh

but idk what, cuz most of the bugs left arent that good

might also change volcavoir? not sure

[stoic sluice]

Uh guys what people suggest for this riddle?

I think about victini (for no obvious reasons aside theme of victory)

[stoic canopy]

Riddle lead to a picture. For now don’t think that the riddle points towards a Pokémon.

The new riddle lead to a picture of a forest in the morning. And the Pokémon was pale.

[stoic sluice]

Well

[stoic canopy]

Not saying it’s not victini, just saying that the riddle part probably isn’t what we should be focusing on.

[twin phoenix]

It's pale and it's orange. X.x

[stoic sluice]

And what should we focusing then?
Pictures?

[stoic canopy]

And the message that goes with them yes.

[stoic sluice]

Maybe it flew over me but what is the massage?

[twin phoenix]

Oh, I see why people are saying it's Chimecho.

[twin phoenix]

It's red, hangs off of stuff like tree limbs, has something inside to make the jingling noise, is pale, has an orange shiny.. blah blah blah

[stoic canopy]

It seems like it’s orange and some pale color

[coral axle]

Chimecho def makes sense

[stoic canopy]

My only problem with chimecho is, unless they are leaving it out on purpose, the sound it makes would make it rather obvious.

And in a cave or a forest, jingling or wind chimes would stick out like a sore thumb.

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/combee-pokemon-happy-yay-cute-gif-21456701

[stoic sluice]

I getherd all orange~/pale shine sprites (the ones that possible I guess)

[coral axle]

So pretty

[twin phoenix]

I flipping love Darumaka's shiny.

Darmanitan leaves a lot to be desired.. but the pink flames are nice.

[stoic canopy]

Blue and green would be way to noticeable so I don’t think it’ll be skiddo or buizel. Shelmet won’t be in a forest. The rest are probable.

[coral axle]

Chimecho, Darumaka, Sawsbuck, Litleo, Malamar make sense

[velvet root]

Where do you guys find these pics????

[silent acorn]

My boi, my beloved deerest pokemon

[silent acorn]

SAWSBUUUUUUUUUUCK

[fathom ridge]

Im sad that vikavolt doesn’t fit with the riddles in any way

[silent acorn]

It does though

[silent acorn]

Grubbin goes up a tree

I would love it

But i am patient

[silent acorn]

For real though, why malamar and Litleo?

[velvet root]

Its definetly Skiddo

[fathom ridge]

We are running out of slots and I fear it might be vikavover

[velvet root]

If it doesnt get in (but Gogoat does)
I try to activly support you next time

[fathom ridge]

If it happens the contrary and vikavolt gets in I will become a goat supporter

[velvet root]

[stoic canopy]

Still hoping for whismur but I’m definitely less sure.

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/exploud-pokémon-exploud-gif-26285238

[stoic canopy]

Really up to how pale is light pink…

[silent acorn]

I Wonder

The most cherished seems like a throw off

The rock is a weird way to mix it with stick and red

The rock, stick and red would be referring to Wormadam

Since ground one has bits of debris

Chimecho seems the mosg likely given that the shiny is pale and orange

[silent acorn]

Gonns be honest outside maybe Emolga and Carnivime all these pokemon are good fine additions

[velvet root]

Im a Emolga enjoyer
Its my fav Pikaclone

[twin phoenix]

Hmm..
Preceding color, I am the first Red
When morning dawns, I end your thirst Juicy/dewy
My vivid walls, pitted and bitter Drupes like cherries
Surround the treasure, juicy glitter Juice again? Nectar?
Each divot a pixel, every shine, a sprite
Show the feel the best to win the fight

I'm starting to think it's describing Shuckle as I don't think Cherubi are bitter.

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/emolga-pokemon-gif-4573345

[velvet root]

I thought that a while ago too tbh

[twin phoenix]

Divot by meaning has something to do with grass or a small hollow spot.

[rugged temple]

NGL I'm not even bothering to read the riddle, I'll check when it's actually a pokemon reveal

[hollow creek]

cherries can be tart

[silent acorn]

But what exactly is Cherrim?

Sometimes it seems like a hybrid of Cherries and The Cherry tree

Cherubi maybe

[twin phoenix]

A cherry blossom?

[molten loom]

A pain to find

[silent acorn]

I mean yes but its not a fruit as a whole

Cherubi is the fruity one

[twin phoenix]

[silent acorn]

Surround the treasure... Yeah that could ne Cherrim because one would think the enclosed form held a cherry inside

To be honest

Damn Cherrim humanoid fusions would be goddamn adorable

[twin phoenix]

There was a Gardevoir in the contest a while ago which was so pretty.

[hollow creek]

The conspiracy board realthree posted didnt have any mentions of cherubi even though it was the most thought of to be the riddle mon which makes me think it could actually be the one

[silent acorn]

I mean yes that one

Honestly as a fan of cute, humanoid and beautiful pokemon Cherrim works great by me

I wanna see the Cherrim Delphox

[hollow creek]

Im definitely doing cacturne/cherrim the yellow form

Uhhh

Overcast would be fun do work with

[coral axle]

God I love cherrim aesthetic

[silent acorn]

Head is a cherry blossom, is gonna be aesthethic as all hell, essentially the underdog of humanoid plant pokemon because of its body and stat spread

Body isnt anything you haven't seen before done with Whimsicott and Vileplume or Bellosom, or Gloom

[twin phoenix]

I'm looking forward to what people will do with the Overcast form.

[outer matrix]

People over at #event-general (and me) guess that the reveal could also maybe be the lake trio

[fathom ridge]

Why how does it fit the riddle??

[dusty arrow]

imagine if you could have two abilities

(drought + flower gift)

[tender plank]

idk they the kinda mons to just spout out random riddles ig

I can totally imagine Azelf dropping by just to say 'Solve my riddles' and then leaving.

[dusty arrow]

thats literally what he does in pla lmao

[outer matrix]

images could also relate to the locations you would be near to find the lake trio (each one is in a different place, and mespirit is a roamer in dp)

[dusty arrow]

im taking tha

[hot hamlet]

But… But Uxie’s the knowledge spirit.
Azelf is just willpower

Why Azelf?

[stoic canopy]

That last picture will just be pory on a treadmill. That will be the willpower bit.

[tender plank]

idk i just chose the first one to pop up into my mind]

although i do believe all 3 of them would say it

[hot hamlet]

Picturing a Porygon on a cyber treadmill. Not even running, just floating above it… and yet still sweating

[silent acorn]

Geddit? Because riddle? KNAELEDGE?!

[fathom ridge]

Isn’t it kinda weird how they keep mentioning that the riddles come from a deleted user

[marble meadow]

Interesting

[glass patio]

Imagine it gets revealed like that lmfao

That’d be so funny

[half needle]

guys what are all the hints?

im cookin

[sharp sun]

is their anyway to light up the caves

[charred socket]

Pikipek and Grapploct would be a good choice to the riddle, however, I would love to sprite Mesprit as one of the lake trio.

[full bison]

I'd be genuinely shocked if we got Pikipek of all the regional birds before Staraptor

[dusty arrow]

fym grapploct

[sharp nebula]

lilligant is the answer

[spare dagger]

Found while searching for “orange”:

#1213267805282107402 message

[silent acorn]

Pory is a scapegoat

[charred socket]

?

[elfin forge]

We can’t get gen8-9 rn

[green laurel]

CR: Mister J

[hot hamlet]

[hot hamlet]

Honestly too bad there’s no four variant to this meme. Or I’d add “There’s no Shiny Locking”

[charred socket]

Twas just a guess 😅

[prime dust]

we could...it just requires more work that is exceedingly risky

#general message

^da proof

[elfin forge]

ik

that's why I said "rn"

[sinful smelt]

Honestly for the second riddle I thought of clamperl, but the pinned message mentioning orange ruins it

It's probably combee, yeah, which I'm way more hyped about

[full bison]

Combee is my only real guess for riddle 2

or Tsareena

[half needle]

guys are any missing

[white meadow]

So is it cheering?

Cherrim

[silent acorn]

No word yet

[silent acorn]

I was about to say nothing is missing from gen 4 until i noticed Bronzong in Gen 5

[outer matrix]

could the riddles lead into a fake-out by revealing that none of them even relate to the pokemon being revealed?

[white meadow]

That would me funny

[silent acorn]

Whoops Bronzong and Toxicroak on Gen 5

[half needle]

im not very familiar with gen 4 and 5 and it mixed up some of the mons when i put all the images into tierlistmaker so i wouldnt know lmao

[craggy lynx]

Wdym, clearly they're the best gen 5 mons

[silent acorn]

Nah

[half needle]

is anything else wrong?

[silent acorn]

Get outta here with that garbo

[silent acorn]

Hey i like Ludicolo too but its not in yet

[full bison]

what throws me off about all this is how disconnected the Pory photos are

one's a cave, the other's a forest

can't think of many Pokemon that live in both

[outer matrix]

next thing that could happen is him being at a snowy mountain, or a lake, or even near the grand canyon

[full bison]

I'll lose it if one of the photos features an Ultra Wormhole. It won't happen, but a man can dream.

[outer matrix]

Then the ultra wormhole shows a buzzwole doing a thumbs up

or a Blacephalon doing some sick dance moves

[full bison]

Or Poipole sliming the camera like it does in the UB Pokemon Go ad

[dire beacon]

Alolan forms don't count?

[half needle]

i dont think he's gonna add those

it would be cool though

[full bison]

Frog voiced disdain for regional forms apparently

[dire beacon]

Sadge

[latent sage]

What about wimpod tho?

[full bison]

Wimpod's already getting added

[dire beacon]

Basculin from Gen 5?

[half needle]

wait you trickster it IS from gen 5

[dire beacon]

Yes

[dire beacon]

Chingling had not introduced on Sinnoh?

[half needle]

yeah but theres no point in seperating them if he would add both at the same time anyway

[dire beacon]

Oh ok

[molten latch]

Im back

[dusty arrow]

i have replaced my entire bug mono team after finding out that half of my picks werent even bug type which im pissed about

we need golisopod in the game as soon as possible......

and all the other bug types

[quaint matrix]

Tbh this game got me Monotypemaxxed

With how inflexible double typings can be in achieving smth cool like

Gimme the pure types aaaaarrrgghhh

[finite reef]

You should use a pure flying type, I hear it's really good

[quaint matrix]

It's okay every Normal/Flying is pure Flying if you think about it

[finite reef]

Close Combat is about to destroy your "flying" type

[high haven]

I mean fair. Does mean we miss out on regional variant specific evolutions.

[quaint matrix]

Honestly the biggest loss is the Gen 9 new evos

Oh how great Primeape Girafarig and Bisharp could've been...

[high haven]

With gen 9 all we really lose from not getting regional variants is Clodsire. If we ever get to the point we can have gen 9 mons than we could on paper get Every cross gen Evo.

[quaint matrix]

Imagine they're making new Eeveelutions in Gen 9

[daring burrow]

wish annihilape isnt gen 9

[hot hamlet]

I have to go in a car for 14 hours in… 4 hours from now. Any developments? On the clues front I mean.

[prime dust]

uh, we're at gen 9, i assume you meant to say gen 10

[sterile spoke]

Who knows, the new Legends might have them. 😛

[quaint matrix]

Yeah I was thinking DLCs and stuff

Of all the new evos in the DLC I didn't expect Applin to get one lol

Hell not even one but two

[finite reef]

It would be cool to get a regional eevee with all of the other typed eeveelutions

[prime dust]

i think they are done dlc wise with the gen 9 games

so yeah, outside of legends z-a

hopefully we get an update on that soon

[quaint matrix]

We didn't really get any new evos in Legends Arceus that isn't from a regional form right

[celest bobcat]

Kleavor

Ursaluna

Hisuian Lilligant

Hisuian Braviary

Hisuian Avalugg

Wyrdeer

Hisuian Sligoo

The starters

[quaint matrix]

Okay but did they exist (outside of Dexit reason) in SV

[celest bobcat]

Uh...

Haven't got the DLC yet

[steel meadow]

I dont think u catch any of them

Except Bloodmoon Ursaluna

[molten latch]

Idk but they kinda count as Gen 8?

Just like Meltan that counts as Gen 7

[trail hull]

you can catch basculegion , kleavor and get hisuian qwillfish and evovle it

[steel meadow]

Oh right i remember getting the hisuian striped basculin in S/V

[white meadow]

Guys the new Pokemon is tsarena

Trust me

[full bison]

tsareena does make sense with some of the hints

but I'm scared of what the sprite channel will look like if she's added

[timber spear]

Same

[molten latch]

Yeah no joke

I dont hate her, its just that consequence may start due to the 2nd rule.

[timber spear]

So what are the top guesses rn?

[molten latch]

Spheal

https://tenor.com/view/tess-spheal-gif-22641311

[full bison]

Tsareena, Combee, and Minior seem to be popular guesses in relation to the 2nd riddle

[steel meadow]

g o a t

[timber spear]

Ok good to know

[steel meadow]

dont people think its the cherry anymore?

[molten latch]

Wdym?

What riddle

[steel meadow]

#event-announcements

[full bison]

there's two riddles on #event-announcements , one of which people think refers to Cherubi, and another people are less decided on

[steel meadow]

Cherubi kinda works if u squint your brain on the 2nd one aswell

[full bison]

there's also photos uploaded by Pory, but those are super disconnected. One's a cave, the other's a forest

[molten latch]

It mentions bug type

I dont see any hints of grass types

It only mentions bug catching

But never like mention the Tsareena line or Minior

[steel meadow]

A stick in my hand, and a stone in my throat
**High in a tree, **
Red for all to see
Draw me
Then sprite me,
Cherished without a vote

This is one of those from event announcements

Imagine cherubi in ur head and read this.

[molten latch]

For me its Flabebe

[steel meadow]

It definetly could be

[molten latch]

But I think Combee make sense

[steel meadow]

I dont know how combee makes sense with the red part

or stick in hand/stone in throat one either

[molten latch]

Ye

But if it meant a bug type, hmmm. . .

[steel meadow]

Where are u getting the bug type part from?

If its from the lastest post in announcements its cuz they closed entries for the Bug catching event which is a seperate event

[molten latch]

Look below on the #event-announcements

Ah sorry

[full bison]

that's not the only riddle, either. there's also this one:

Preceding color, I am the first
When morning dawns, I end your thirst
My vivid walls, pitted and bitter
Surround the treasure, juicy glitter
Each divot a pixel, every shine, a sprite
Show the feel the best to win the fight

[molten latch]

Yep thats Cherrim

[steel meadow]

Pitted very much feels like a reference to the core in a fruit

[molten latch]

No wonder why Dot looks like Cherrim despite having a Nidorina costume.

[full bison]

Pitted, bitter walls surrounding a glittering treasure mostly makes me think of oranges

Cherries don't really have bitter walls, but in a metaphorical way it could refer to a beehive

[molten latch]

Yeah

Nectar

[steel meadow]

What fruit is tsareena prevo based on?

[full bison]

mangosteen

[molten latch]

Mangosteen

Can be bittersweet

[molten latch]

So as I was researching the internet

It is 100% that the *imp queen is gonna be in the game

I've checked the Tropical Fruit Forum and it said

"This fruit has a bittersweet taste, similar to a citrus."

[molten latch]

Predecing color means the Magenta

Like Zamazenta

Vivid walls means the mangosteen's skin

Which all now make sense

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-its-all-coming-together-gif-15058130

[full bison]

After all this, imagine we get a 3rd riddle and the matter is further confused

and a 3rd photo of Pory at some lake just to mess with us more

[molten latch]

No Shinx Gumshoos

Maybe

Maybe not

But still then

Show the feel the best to win the fight. . .

I mean *imp Queen looks more of a winner because of her. . . "Nature"

I end your thirst is a vague one

Because mangosteen does only inmunity, stops disease and fight immflamation.

But never like hydration.

Which stops to believe that its not the *imp Queen

[full bison]

maybe they're talking about Tsareena ending a different kind of thirst

Sorry I had to

[molten latch]

I guess you're right

Despite rule 2

Unless they may rearrange

I mean mangosteen are already juicy.

So its not out of place

I was watching Goldengully and then yes.

In fact the Tsareena line is 100% confirmed to be in P:IF.

Which means. . . .

WE'RE DOOMED!!!!

[quaint matrix]

Oh shoot is Bounsweet line fr

[molten latch]

Just look!

The Pokedex entries are already there as hints

[quaint matrix]

The what

[molten latch]

Bounsweet's sweat are useful,
Stenee can stop tummy aches
And *imp Queen is 100% confirmed already.

[quaint matrix]

Sorry I don't really follow the ARG thingy going on I'm just vibing along

[molten latch]

You do you

[quaint matrix]

Well I'm glad there's more mono-typers added either way

[molten latch]

But still this is confirmed

[quaint matrix]

Hey I'm all down for every cool Poke lines to be added

[molten latch]

[quaint matrix]

As long as they don't add the Gigalith line

[molten latch]

NGL the *imp Queen's Mettaton ahh legs are so too distracting.

[quaint matrix]

I mean Tsareena do got the leg game locked in

[timber spear]

I Already got a fusion

Went a little heavy on the red around the mouth

[molten latch]

Looks good

[silk narwhal]

Wait what the fuck

Tsareena is confirmed?

Let's fucking go

[timber spear]

I don't think so

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-pokemon-pokemon-go-ludicolo-cherubi-gif-21340610

[timber spear]

Thank you

[silk narwhal]

Damn

[molten latch]

It is

Look above

Scroll I mean

[timber spear]

I mean there is a lot of evidence pointing towards it but not confirmed right

[molten latch]

Even then, its 100%

You just dont look throught the future

[full bison]

part of me wants something insane to happen in regards to the photos because they feel entirely random currently

[quaint matrix]

What's photos

[full bison]

if you can find a connection between caves and forests, I'd love to hear it

[molten latch]

You arent wrong tho.

[molten latch]

Shiny Cherubi is orange

[velvet root]

WHERE DO THESE PICS COME FROM???

noone told me when I asked

[full bison]

pinned messages in #event-general

[deft obsidian]

I always thought that's eggplant

[full bison]

where exactly they come from, IDK, but that's where I found them

[half needle]

no new riddles

i cri

[full bison]

Trying to draw up a Froslass/Tsareena fusion. What color should the boots be? Sky Blue? Purple? Orange?

[half needle]

i'd have to see it to choose tbh

[twin phoenix]

When I make a Tsareena body, I'm gunna have her wear small shoes and turn the boots into thigh high socks.

[cobalt river]

Theyre old messaged edited in event channels , the hints telling whcih keywoard to search for in the first half and which channel to search in in the second (draw me then sprite me, cherished without a vote= concept craze channel, each divot a pixel each shine a sprite, show the feeling best to win the fight= txt/sfx contest channel)

[full bison]

if the riddles are only there to direct towards the photos, the only pokemon I can think of that'd fit both a cave and forest, especially with it's apparent flightiness, is Marshadow

but that doesn't fit with the Pokemon apparently being pale orange

[hot hamlet]

Eyes

https://tenor.com/view/marshadow-pokemon-cute-shadow-creepy-gif-27060994

[finite reef]

What about Numel/Camerupt? They fit the description of being pale and orange respectively, and are found both in caves (Fiery Path, Stark Mountain, Reversal Mountain, Rugged Mountain) as well as forests (Ilex Forest, Viridian Forest, Purity Forest)

The Timburr line also fits that, the shiny is orange and is found in both caves (Granite Cave, Endless Cave) and forests (Pinwheel Forest, Moonlit Forest)

[full bison]

Colorwise it works, but the Numel and Timburr lines aren't exactly known for rushing away quickly, considering Pory's first description hints tht it rushed away quickly

We could use a list of all the unavailable Mons that are pale orange in either their base or shiny forms to help with this

[velvet root]

If thats the point I fear to see Sawsbuck soon

[full bison]

"Maybe it's Kartana," I say as I retreat further into my UB cope

"Poipole is a pale orange in it's shiny," I say, coping even harder

[full bison]

I wouldn't really call Sawsbuck or it's shinies orange. Brown for regular, bright brown for Shiny, neither strikes me as orange

Maybe Autumn Deerling, but why would it be in a cave?

[molten latch]

Yeah

I'm sure its either Cherrim or Tsareena

[gray vine]

why not

why does discord never put me to the newest message argh

replied to one from 2 hours ago

[quaint matrix]

Ssssh don't ruin it

[gray vine]

mmh? i love those boys so cant relate

as a kid i actualy thought Roggenrola was OP, sicne i guessed only it had sturdy so i had a level 10 Roggerola carry me through the elite 4, was the perfect sacrifice mon, since it survived 2 rounds meaning i could revive 2 mons and during that i would revive roggenrola in 1 turn so i have 2 free turns again

[quaint matrix]

I'm reverse psychologing here so Gigalith can be added

[gray vine]

[quaint matrix]

Anyway uhhhhh don't add Gigalith please I hate him so bad

[silent acorn]

Oh look announcement

It was gigalith huh

[quaint matrix]

DON'T ADD GIGALITH

[silent acorn]

Yed

Yes

Crystals

Lesss gooooo

POG

Anyway

No clues huh

I bet the team did this so they could torment everyone while getting the Repo fixed

[steel meadow]

i mean they gotta give us some content while repo is being dumb dumb

[full bison]

we might be getting another clue sometime today later down the line

the Cherry riddle was dropped on 3:01 and the second one was half past noon

Imagine it's just Tropius with all this fruit talk

[inland jewel]

Tropius lives in caves though?

[celest bobcat]

Cherrim?

What clue?

[inland jewel]

I'd say for the Orange clue, they could be referencing Pokemon pokedex color

but then i remember there isn't an Orange color in the dex

[molten loom]

Really weird

[inland jewel]

but its weird that they say Red. and Orange and the pokeon that fits both in normal and shiny is Cherrubi

[silent acorn]

Never heard of that one

[molten loom]

Also how they change shades of white

The original was clearly more grey

[inland jewel]

making a joke, on how one of the clues is a cave biome

and someone is convinced its tropius. So qustion of Tropius lives in caves?

[full bison]

I'm not convinced it's tropius, I was making a joke as well

Tropius is only relevant in the Fruit sense, maybe also the forest, but I don't think it's ever orange

Just double checked Tropius's shiny and... ew

Slightly more noticeable than Garchomp

[inland jewel]

i'd laugh if they said it was orange shiny due to hue shifts instead of actual shiny

which still makes sense for red mons since red mons hue shift to orange

(looking at Zoroark and how it massacres the shiny)

[elfin forge]

Nah that and Garchomp are pretty noticeable tbh. If you want a REALLY subtle shiny, look at Tynamo and Igglybuff

[stoic sluice]

If today's readle would be related to yellow it could be minior or flabebe line

[inland jewel]

you know what. I'd be totally fine with flabebe showing up in caves if they lorewise had it being driven out of the forest due to predators/new species

but also flabebe line being a chance encounter when picking up necter

so be ready for 5 necters in your bag trying to gamba for flabebe

[stoic sluice]

Maybe it would be as in XY red flowers have one mons red another (or which colors they were at this games?)

[stoic sluice]

In that case variations of flabebe

[inland jewel]

im just using the existing flower mechanic that we hae

which is red, pink, yellow, and purple

[full bison]

pretty sure Flabebe's flower gimmick would be strictly an altsprite thing

Mostly because including every form for the whole line would be a whopping 15 slots

for three Pokemon

[inland jewel]

thats not what I meant

Like, if you interact with a flower then flabebe shows up

[twin phoenix]

I think Pokédex colors come from the Japanese language.
Orange as a color is probably not there because it's a loan word.
Aka red
ao blue
kiiro yellow
midori green
chairo brown
murasaki purple
kuro black
shiro white
haiiro gray
momoiro pink~

Iro means color and some Japanese color terms mean the color of something. Idk why orange isn't something like mikan iro.

Anyway, I'm not alone in strongly believing in Cherubi as the answer for the riddle.

[inland jewel]

i love the little guy, isn't grass types one of the lower by percentage?

iirc, the 3 lowest percentage wise were bug, electric, and grass

[twin phoenix]

That's a shame because grass type has so many pretty mons but is stinky in battle.

[inland jewel]

im saying its a good thing if its cheruby

since it can bolster the numbers

[twin phoenix]

Yeah, that's a good thing.

[elfin forge]

I thought Ice or Fighting were the types with the least mons?

[inland jewel]

thats by species

Before Kommo-o and Kalos, Ice, Fighting and Fairy were the lowest

now its Ice, Fairy, Dark

[elfin forge]

Wait. What were you sorting them by then?

[inland jewel]

percentages

like we currently have 85% of all dragons types from gens 1-7

[elfin forge]

Oh ok

[inland jewel]

while Bug, Grass, Elec are hovering around the 47-49% each

Fighting and Fairy are around the 52-55%

[cobalt river]

Yknow whats lower in percentages then grass? Water clearlt we need more water units

#pif-hoenn-discussion message assuming this is the list you meant grass is pretty in the middle www

[inland jewel]

okay there are a bit more grass types than I thought

but still, I dont want more water types

[twin phoenix]

Nooo, not my top 3 favorite types..

[inland jewel]

77 water types in the game when fairy only has 26 mons is criminal

[twin phoenix]

Then again 2 of them were not among the original types of gen 1.

[cobalt river]

fairy still has only had carbink as single new addition both rounds😔 and i LOVE carbink but more fairies still </3 please

[inland jewel]

we should add Shiinotic

[twin phoenix]

Florges, Diancie, Xerneas, Primarina, Magearna, and Ribombee would be wonderful.

People really like Slurpuff family so that might get in soonest.

[elfin forge]

We have enough mushrooms already imo

Slurpuff or the Tapus would be better choices

[inland jewel]

ok, but Shiinotic is my favorite fairy.

[cobalt river]

the tapus would be actual nightmares to sprite theyd be fun to do concepts for but tiny complicated bodies w intricate patterns is um. hell

[elfin forge]

Yeah fair enough. Magearna would be cool

[elfin forge]

Walrein's my favourite ice type but that's probably not getting in anytime soon

hell, Spritzee could be cool

you could do something with the flamenco dancer or plague doctor motif

[cobalt river]

yeah spritzee heads would be very fun :]

[full bison]

Finally, spriters could give us the Spritzee evolution everyone wanted but got shafted with Aromatisse instead

[elfin forge]

fr

[inland jewel]

I loev spritzee

i just wish aromatisse didn't exist

it had an amazing design as spritzee and then they ruin it by making it stand on two legs

[full bison]

Spritzee was basically a bird, it was always gonna be bipedal

[inland jewel]

it was a floating/flying bird

[full bison]

what went wrong was they made Aromatisse into... whatever the heck it's supposed to be

[inland jewel]

its evolution is grounded

honestly, if they removed the bottom fluff of it, or at least made it into anything else

[twin phoenix]

I don't mind the poofy dress, but the limbs, claws, and big ears gave me gremlin vibes.

It's not that off-putting to me.

[full bison]

I'd like an off-putting evolution for Spritzee, but, like, Plague Doctor off-putting

not whatever mess Aromatisse is

[silent acorn]

I dont think so either, it was kind of just there with one leg

HAH! BIPEDAL KNEW IT

[sleek hornet]

I’d say aromatisse was done SO dirty, like a dancer mixed with a plague doctor, like what!? What were they thinking!? 💀

That’s why I do prefer spritzee better.

I least fangames like Tectonic, Uranium and Eternal Order gave her justice.

That’s one of the reasons why I want aromatisse in, I want to see the glow up! The makeover it needs and deserves.

[inland jewel]

its animations in game is a floating/flying mon

in Gen 6, in SwSh, etc

i know it has 2 legs, but its cute flying sprite to whatever Aromatis is is a huge downgrade

reason why on a Favorite/Least Favorite Gen 6 chart i put the Spritzee line

[fallen loom]

I liked the Gen 4 blue more. The brown kept on changing to different shades of orange, with Home version being the worst. They couldn't keep purple consistent at all and in HGSS it looked the same as pink

[fallen loom]

it looks like it could have been a flamingo or evolved into a proper plague doctor mixed with a flamingo

[sleek hornet]

It should’ve been like that T-T

[fallen loom]

plus it looks like an actual bird, then evolves into a powder puff

[sleek hornet]

Yeah like it makes no sense!

I also honestly wished it had like a second stage so it would be a better transition if it were to evolve into a plague doctor flamingo thingy. IMO.

[fallen loom]

what is that black spot

[sleek hornet]

I think it looks like a bow?

[velvet root]

I prefer my regional form of spritzee and the evo Miaroma

Not my art

[sleek hornet]

Omg yes!

[sleek hornet]

I LOVE that

[fallen loom]

Dark/Flying?

[velvet root]

No

[fallen loom]

mono Dark?

[sleek hornet]

Hmmm it kind of looks like a Dark/fairy or Poison/Dark?

Or maybe a Ghost/Dark type.

[velvet root]

Its Poison/Fairy
The biggest part of the look is from a Plague Doctor giving the Poison type
The Fairy stayed from the original fomr

[sleek hornet]

I was gonna guess that too lol.

That’s really cool

That’s what it should’ve been and it makes more sense.

Though I would perfer designs that have longer necks, elongated bodies and hunched backs:

Makes it look more..itimidating and cool imo. Like what these atrtists did. (Ik the two other images are meant to be new mons but I still want aromatisse to look something like that as well)

Though I wouldn’t mind if went the cute route as well

[cobalt river]

Fully respect all the redesign of aromatisse leaning into the plague doctor thing, especially since i know that’s what most people want out of it- but Id still like to see designs of it leaning more into the perfume bottle thing it has going on as well aromatisses main crime is that it has a bunch of themes but doesn’t seem to fully commit to anything so it ends up slightly bland. But thematically the idea of a healing perfume bottle Pokémon with a plague doctor inspired mask since… healer with a mask filled with perfumes to ward off sickness. Is very cool! It just doesn’t fully commit into it enough

[sleek hornet]

I agree with that too

I do like the perfume aesthetic too, it just needs to lean more into that mix of Plague doctor and purfume. it makes more sense thematically as Plague doctors try to prevent themselves from getting the plague by stuffing their masks with herbs and spices for them to smell instead of the corpses. (Cause back then they thought you can catch it through smells. :/)

Should’ve just been base off of perfume/plague doctor, that’s it! No need to add a freaking dancer like what? xd

[lilac fiber]

Guys I just saw the riddle, the new mon line has to be alcreamy

[white meadow]

Alcremy or tsarena

[twin phoenix]

Alcremie is gen 8. It ain't going in.

[molten latch]

Slurpuff?

[elfin forge]

We can’t get gen 8+ mons in IF for now so my guess is Tsareena or Slurpuff

[molten latch]

I'm sure its Slurpuff

Holy Shinx

[sleek hornet]

Yeah it’s just the pale…hey wait a minute it is pale

It might be slurpuff!

[white meadow]

Why is that?

[ocean lark]

it's pidove

[cobalt river]

Very simple but tried to change as little as possible. Smth like this would already help so much for me </3 Shaped its fur into a hat for the plague doctor aesthetic, but also those fancy parfums bottle tops they have sometimes. Made the mask slightly fancier. And gave it a little thing that can double as perfume bottle bulb and plague doctor staff- have it be used in battle to ward enemies (or patients) off and also use it to produce healing scents

[molten latch]

Slurpuff has a winning chance right there, I wonder if Tsareena or Cherrim may get in. I'm so sure. . . .

[elfin forge]

#general message

[molten latch]

Aromatisse aint bad of a choice.

But hmmm. . . .

[weak trellis]

yea that design looks nice without straying too far from what we have

[sleek hornet]

Omg that looks SO good! :3

Amazing job!

[velvet root]

Btw new riddle is there

[molten latch]

Its either Aromatisse or Slurpuff

But I'm sure slurpuff

[elfin forge]

We can get them eventually though. Just only when the abilities and moves can be carried over to IF’s engine

[hallow talon]

so how does that first line apply

[tender plank]

the roygbiv fruit chain is broken, it's SOOOO miniover

[sleek hornet]

the creamy makes me think it’s slurpuff da!

[hallow talon]

"My progeny upon my back" like wth

[velvet root]

I think the riddle isnt the Pokémon
But the hints where it leads us to are

[hallow talon]

oh okay

[molten latch]

How come?

[sleek hornet]

So those riddles are a red herring?

I thought to take them literally. T-T

[half needle]

its pretty likely cherubi

[inland jewel]

The riddles give us a fruit it describes, using that fruit we find the image linked to the pokemon

[half needle]

considering cherubi has a baby cherry on its back

[weak trellis]

its tsareena

[sleek hornet]

Ah right!

[twin phoenix]

Where have people been finding the images?

[weak trellis]

leaves*

[sleek hornet]

Yeah that part makes sense!

[inland jewel]

by solving the riddle and using the word it was to find the image

[half needle]

i really hope its not tsareena beacause any other option i like much more

[weak trellis]

(disclaimer, that is a joke)

[hidden relic]

I'd love Aromatisse if this was what it looked like

[twin phoenix]

I do love the taste of cherry flavored yogurt. 😋

[hidden relic]

Current Aroma tries to do too much

Perfume + PlagueDoc + Can-Can

[sleek hornet]

Yeah I don’t mind the floof, I just want a better execution of it!

[cobalt river]

Ty Gordo aromatisse you had so much potential. I still believe in you ((get a cool mega evo or regional form someday))

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/poketwo-pokemon-shiny-slurpuff-when-the-colours-are-unusual-gif-26564147

[hidden relic]

Legends ZA will do us justice 🙏

[cobalt river]

you get my hopes

[sleek hornet]

Aromatisse plz get a better design! 🙏🏽

We’re begging T-T

[quaint matrix]

Do you have any thoughts on Miasmedic btw

[hallow talon]

aromatisse is fine what do you mean better

[hidden relic]

If Aroma ends up getting in (doubt), you should totally do that as the self-fuse

[sleek hornet]

Right? Lol

[ocean lark]

my guesses:
we have to make fusion sprites of all three pokemon mentioned in the riddles
in a total of nine fusions

[quaint matrix]

I like Aromatisse fine I just wish it has a little more menace

As it is it's just a goofy bird with a frumpy dress for furs

[sleek hornet]

It just has too much going on rn, I just want a purfume bottle shaped plague doctor.

It’s just trying too much for me.

[molten latch]

Yeah

Were counting on it

[quaint matrix]

Yeah its kinda exactly the problem

[sleek hornet]

Yep

[quaint matrix]

Plague doctor is a wicked concept and I can totally understand they don't wanna go the super obvious Dark/Ghost route of it being edgy bird with obvious plague doctor allusions

[hallow talon]

oh well the solution is to just fuse every pokemon until we get the right combo

[quaint matrix]

So it being a Fairy is a good twist but the design is just kinda blegh

[sleek hornet]

Yeah exactly!

They don’t have to go the typical edgy route

That would be too much too imo.

[molten latch]

So here are the list of speculations

Cherrim
Tsareena
Slurpuff
Florges

[sleek hornet]

Yep, that seems right.

[steel meadow]

speculations is everything

[sleek hornet]

It looks like its leaning more towards Cherrim due to the carrying on its back, found on trees thing.

[steel meadow]

likely speculations are those

[molten latch]

Yeah

[stoic sluice]

Well now it's kitchen

[molten latch]

Who's a berry collector other than Greedent or Cherrim

[sleek hornet]

Greedent is Gen 8

[quaint matrix]

Greedent's already out because Gen 8

[sleek hornet]

Yeah

[molten latch]

I know

[twin phoenix]

Pachirisu..? Dedenne?

[quaint matrix]

Cherubi line is just the obvious way to go soooooooo

[sleek hornet]

yeaaaaaaah.

But a mon found in the kitchen is also leaning towards slurpuff

[molten latch]

Strawberry?

[sleek hornet]

And also the creamy part

[molten latch]

I think it could be Slurpuff

[stoic sluice]

Tropius

[twin phoenix]

Well.. there is a big cherry like scoop on its head.

[quaint matrix]

Hmmmmm this is a crazy thought but

[cobalt river]

Who?

[quaint matrix]

Zigzagoon line is the funny thief line right

[sleek hornet]

Yeah technically! it’s based off a raccoon and badger iirc.

[twin phoenix]

I'm hoping for both Slurpuff and Cherubi.

[quaint matrix]

I'm not feeling strong on it but there could be a little bit of a possibility one of them is the Zigzagoon line

[cobalt river]

A berry collector… wasn’t that crabrawler (or at least didn’t that hide in berry stashes)

[molten latch]

Is that a Fakemon?

[quaint matrix]

Yeah from Uranium

[molten latch]

Ok

[sleek hornet]

Oh right! I forgot about that!

[quaint matrix]

https://pokemon-uranium.fandom.com/wiki/Miasmedic

[sleek hornet]

Oh yeah Miasmedic I liked quite a bit

[quaint matrix]

I don't even play Uranium tbh but I like seeing their takes on old poke evos

[molten latch]

Spoopy

[quaint matrix]

Even if some of them are basic but it just do be like that

[sleek hornet]

Yeppers

[cobalt river]

Ahh I see I see

[quaint matrix]

Like I don't think any of us expected Primeape to get an evo much less becoming a Ghost/Fighting lol

That's like just genuinely cool af

[cobalt river]

Yeah a bit basic but its cute! That sure be a plague doctor mon

[molten latch]

Its now possible as a fusion

But it aint the same

[quaint matrix]

Yeah Annihilape's stats is just too raw

[sleek hornet]

Yep, it fairy poison, I used it before. Lol

[quaint matrix]

Primeape with a Ghost type ain't the same

[molten latch]

Ye

[sleek hornet]

Indeed

It be bawling!

[quaint matrix]

Honestly the evos I like in Uranium is really just like

Corsoreef, and the new Megas

[molten latch]

Uh huh

[quaint matrix]

Well not even all the new Megas I don't have attachment to much of the original Uranium OCs I just like that Whimsicott and Arbok gets a Mega

[sleek hornet]

Oh their megas are SICK

[quaint matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-gif-10559980082154008380

[molten latch]

Oh nothing, just was curious about Pokemon Uranium

[quaint matrix]

I think they make Arbok Mega a Poison/Dark which is just oh man that's just sick

[molten latch]

Because I dont play it

[quaint matrix]

And they make Whimsicott Mega a special sweeper which is just very funny

[ocean lark]

[sleek hornet]

That’s what it was made for :3

[quaint matrix]

Not with original Whimsicott stats lol

[sleek hornet]

Oh right. XD

Those stats were mid.

[dusty arrow]

oh i saw the new hint

so like
its probably slurp?

[sleek hornet]

Yeah that’s what we’re thinking.

[quaint matrix]

Hmmmmmmm

Another crazy thought

[dusty arrow]

plus slurpuffs shiny has bits of red and is orangy

[quaint matrix]

This is all about "failed photography" so the Pokemon is slippery and hard to catch on a photo

What if it's Helioptile line

[dusty arrow]

what does helioptile have to do with cream lol

[sleek hornet]

And does it cook?

[quaint matrix]

I mean it's not even related to cream

It's just a slippery lizard that can't be easily caught, photos or physically and all

[sleek hornet]

It do be slithering XD

[dusty arrow]

heliolisk would be cool af to get added but i dont see it happening sadly

[sleek hornet]

Same T-T

[dusty arrow]

heliolisk deserves an electric/ground evo

electric/ground is such a cool type