pif-hoenn-discussion

[civic harness]

Epic

[brittle viper]

I

[stone jacinth]

The goat

Crustle on top

Do you reckon continental drift is litterally just crustle migration

[molten latch]

Been waiting

No updates on the repo patch

[civic harness]

Still waiting

[storm rose]

for grumpig

[velvet root]

Grumpig is fun

[next sapphire]

regnahc mrof syxoed a deen ew kniht i

[velvet root]

No
Just because it would be hell to sort the existing sprites

[inland jewel]

Reason why Rotom and Deoxys ain’t getting forms is due to needing to sort their sprites

[next sapphire]

oos amzorcen evah ew llew

[cobalt river]

deoxys form splits would be a nightmare for sprites. to have them look recognizably like wahtever form theyre supposed to represent both as head and body when they differ so little from eachother would allow for next to no creativity with the designs at all

[next sapphire]

gninrecnoc oot s'taht os secneilppa tsuj si motor neam i

[rancid nymph]

?tag rule22

[opal trail]

Rule 22 CODE OF CONDUCT: Speak English in channels outside of #international and, only speak the given language in the #international channels. These channels exist to allow fans to chat together in their languages of choice without the flow of conversation being disrupted by messages the rest of the channel cannot read.

[inland jewel]

Because necrozma was separate from the getgo

[next sapphire]

Ewhat Edo Eyou Emean Ethis Eis Eenglish

[inland jewel]

Deoxys and Rotom is undoing years of work

[next sapphire]

hmm

maybe a stat changer ?

like a key item

it just says you've shifted

forms

and alters typing for rotom

[rancid nymph]

English doesn’t have you put a capital E in front of every word

[cobalt river]

only form changes in stats would be good for rotom and deoxys yeah allows for the fun w stats n types (for rotom) without having to get super strict w form designs

[next sapphire]

Yyes Iit Ddoes

[next sapphire]

:]

[inland jewel]

Thing is, how does it keep track of it if it doesn’t already make it a separate Pokémon

[rancid nymph]

Mind you, given how English makes up the rules as it goes along, it wouldn’t surprise me

[inland jewel]

At that point just give it the pokedex slot

But nah

[next sapphire]

yeah it wouldn't be very good but

mellota is an example

[silk narwhal]

They revealed the Monster Hunter Wilds flagship

[next sapphire]

2 forms

[silk narwhal]

Arkveld my beloved

[next sapphire]

2 dex entries

thats a problem

[silk narwhal]

This is the coolest shit ever

[inland jewel]

Again it was released as 2 forms

[next sapphire]

instead give a item

to alter types

n stats

[inland jewel]

Not released as one then years later split into two

[next sapphire]

so no extra dex entries

and seperate pkmn

[inland jewel]

The entire problem with Rotom and Deoxys is that they weren’t separate forms from the start

[next sapphire]

sprites are alr many

[inland jewel]

If they were added today then it’s follow necrozma and Meloetta

And Oricorio

[next sapphire]

;PartyDitto:

oh dang it

it came for a second

[inland jewel]

But since they were released at a time where Slots actually mattered

[next sapphire]

:/

[inland jewel]

They don’t get separate forms

[next sapphire]

i mean i cant code so i cant say how long itd take for a form changer

but itd definetely help

[inland jewel]

I mean the best person to ask is Frogman

Since he you know codes the game

[next sapphire]

only him ?

[half needle]

actually necrozma didnt get its second form until usum

[next sapphire]

AHA

[inland jewel]

Yeah as the solo dev of the game Frogman is the one who codes it

[next sapphire]

OnO

[inland jewel]

The others are mods, website managers, sprinting managers, etc

[next sapphire]

only he actually does game stuff ?

[inland jewel]

No one else actually works on the code

[rancid nymph]

We do have separate people who make sprites, but other than that it’s all frog

[next sapphire]

yikes

[half needle]

aegislash fusions can change forms and therefore stats without a different sprite or dex entry

[next sapphire]

Yr

ryt

[inland jewel]

So between Frogman adding a brand new Pokémon vs adding a form of an existing Pokémon

[next sapphire]

but that cause

abibility

[inland jewel]

Which would you prefer?

since both are the same amount of work

[next sapphire]

idk rlly

i feel forms should be wrapped up

but thats me

opinions vary obv

[inland jewel]

Someone forced Frogman to add Oricorio to make forms possible

[next sapphire]

who ?

[inland jewel]

And to this day he still hadn’t added Deoxy and Rotom forms

So 2 years later and nothing to show

[next sapphire]

also how do you even force a dev ?

[velvet root]

1 year

[rancid nymph]

You’d think Rotom would force Frogman to make forms possible

[next sapphire]

rotom forms could still get pass for different designs

but like

[inland jewel]

They found a way to expand a feature that was previously thought to be impossible

[next sapphire]

thats a stretch

[inland jewel]

So as a reward he asked them to pick a Mon to add to the game

[next sapphire]

rotoms role rn is sentient electricity

and i think thas fun

[velvet root]

If we wouldnt make some fusions into tools so it would destroy the way we worked with it

[next sapphire]

giving machine locked forms will get stale fast

?

[inland jewel]

And they said “I know you hate forms, but so that mons with forms can get in I choose Oricorio so you don’t have an excuse not to do them”

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/aryan-tari-vidit-gujrathi-anish-giri-chess-gun-gif-24838467

[next sapphire]

real

[inland jewel]

And so we got Meloetta and Necrozma

But no reworks for old mons

[velvet root]

Well melo was luck and Necro was votes

[next sapphire]

makes sense abt necro

light stealing boogeyman

whats to hate

[fathom ridge]

Necrozma 100% needed the two forms

[rancid nymph]

I think you answered your own question there

[next sapphire]

cant wait for olivine n the other city

[velvet root]

Pov me who never made ultra necro

[next sapphire]

ive been there thru debug alr

and damn its fun

[next sapphire]

but you have to agree tedious proccess

i cant even get ultra without having photon geyser and necrozmium

atleast make it so i dont need the move

like red n blue orb

item slot gone is bad enough on its own

[next sapphire]

and its not actually a z-move so obv it wont have that exchange factor

[fathom ridge]

Tbh I don’t really take into consideration the actual game that much I just like the big goober for sprites

[next sapphire]

yup

i beat the game way too many times

and ngl as fun as it is

god its repetitive

[rancid nymph]

Making cool fusions > making strong fusions

[next sapphire]

not really

i love both

i wont stand for a cool fusion below 450+ bst

or else out the window

[fathom ridge]

I played it again not that long ago, after the last update loading times were reduced immensely in my computer so the game was actually playable

[next sapphire]

lmao

i caould always play

its just that its so same over n over

and as much as i hate to admit it

we got way too much freedom

[fathom ridge]

Idk why but before the last update the game had to stop to think whenever I moved my Pokémon or did anything in my party

[next sapphire]

like ig its the point but

i can go everywhere and do anything

story is side stuff at best

[fathom ridge]

I need to complete the Pokédex the debugger sounds so fun

[next sapphire]

only notable thing the whole game is mt moon n mt ember

[next sapphire]

oh it is

[silk narwhal]

Complete the full pokedex

[next sapphire]

they have some nice stuff for ppl navigating map debug

i went to hoen

and unova

[fathom ridge]

Unova?

[next sapphire]

kinda empty tho

[next sapphire]

unova is a blank off screen plaace (obv just a placeholder)

hoen has pcifdalog town

thats all

also

[rancid nymph]

There’s the lab where you get ||genesect||

[next sapphire]

the 2 last johto locations are real

[next sapphire]

not that

i mean theres literally just a place called unova

black void

lmao

[fathom ridge]

I don’t think they will add another region I heard multiple times that the game was running out of map space but idk

It would be cool ngl

[next sapphire]

yup

all we need to do is snatch a book out of fire-ash's hands

[rancid nymph]

Unless they give us Infinite fusion

https://tenor.com/view/2-two-neon-gif-9555120733519320814

(Which frog said he has no plans for)

[next sapphire]

dear god

have mercy on frog

[fathom ridge]

I would love another fangame that used the gallery that IF has, it also could be free from the limitations of RPG maker and be made in an actual game engine so having all the Pokémon wouldn’t be too hard

[inland jewel]

Thing is people can make IF2

It just won’t have all the perms for sprites or autogens that Frog has

So literally every art piece from scratch

Like the reason why the autogen repo went down last time and the last fusion calc went down was entirely due to Japael copy striking the site since they didn’t have permissions that they gave Frog alone

[spice sage]

"forced"

[inland jewel]

I mean their words not mine

[spice sage]

It was Kiwi and she's essentially on the dev team hahah

[inland jewel]

But does she actually program the game?

[spice sage]

nope but she's helped with some game design stuff and a ton of graphics

[inland jewel]

From what I recall. Only you do programming

[spice sage]

yeah

[inland jewel]

I can amend my statements to say as the sole programmer

[spice sage]

tbf rpg maker is not what limits me from adding all the pokemon / more regions

[sweet spoke]

im confused as to why this was said

[spice sage]

||good game design practices are what does ||

and time/effort ofc lol

[inland jewel]

It’s a joke, someone said they still need to get Boots, so someone said to get 100% fusion dex

[sweet spoke]

ah lmao

[inland jewel]

Gotta give it to us in 3-6 month time frames

Definitely helps keep the place alive

[feral bear]

Bruxish 2 when

[half needle]

ice type bruxish

[tender plank]

evil bruxish

[rancid nymph]

||Main series Pokémon doesn’t care about good game design practices, so why should you ||

[tender plank]

anyways who up touging they tirts?

[plucky tendon]

tera raids in infinite fusion

[rancid nymph]

?tag rule22

[opal trail]

Rule 22 CODE OF CONDUCT: Speak English in channels outside of #international and, only speak the given language in the #international channels. These channels exist to allow fans to chat together in their languages of choice without the flow of conversation being disrupted by messages the rest of the channel cannot read.

[trail hull]

why

[silk narwhal]

What even

[trail hull]

we love customer service like that takes ages to give any information

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-the-hedgehog-sonic-the-hedgehog-shadow-sonic-sonic-x-shadow-gif-17134042514615322312

i Wonder wich new or old mon would fuse as shadow with doom wings as an alt

[spare solar]

sandslash and Yveltal

[shadow plover]

You’re cooking fr

[inland jewel]

i mean... he's been saying how he disliked everyting after gen 7 for a while now (for like years)

[weak trellis]

makes sense, gens 6 and 8 are usually the most common "barriers" I see with people (and 3 but that's mostly for the older crowd)

[inland jewel]

i've been replaying games, and i forgot how fun Gen 7 was

if you don't include how hand holdy the game is at the beginning

its not as bad as Gen 8 where every few steps its a new tutorial or feature

and gen 9 has its lag issues

But its also amazing how balanced gen 8 is with its EXP

[weak trellis]

gen 7 I'm prepping for trainer EVs to kick me to the curb throughout my run lol

[inland jewel]

In gen 8. If you get a team of level 1 pokemon from hatchign eggs traded from another file

you can get through main game on level or a bit lower

this is without feeding them exp candies or ranre candies

[sweet spoke]

💀

[silent acorn]

Bonjour

Honestly what sucks about the delay to me is that i have to wait longer to make my hounrys

I should make the wolf hoodie sprite meanwhile

[broken hollow]

You think itd be possible for them to add cosmog and the evoline after this whole sprite issue is settled? We already got necro

[inland jewel]

def possible since we don't know 13 of the mons promised to get in

like, Cosmog line can def be 4 of those 13

[broken hollow]

Including the necrozma forms? (Tbh that may be a stretch)

[rancid nymph]

Aurivoir (I probably horribly misspelled that)

[broken hollow]

Thatd be almost have the hidden roster

[inland jewel]

the necrozma forms of dusk-wing nd dawn wing will most likely be sprites

[molten latch]

Understandable

Even then

Can we honestly tell that there will be another Legendary mon to be added?

[sweet spoke]

Nuh uh

[next sapphire]

I want forms

all I ask :]

done

[molten latch]

Idk

Wr have to wait till Nebby gets in ||the bag.||

[outer matrix]

Which would you prefer: solgaleo or lunala?

[sweet spoke]

Solgaleo cause I picked Sun when it came out

[full ether]

Both

[trail hull]

lunala cuz I reiceved moon when it came out

[inland jewel]

While I would love the SM legends (by far my favorite legend duo)
It makes the most sense if they got addedwith the alola starters

then again, other legends have been added out of turn before

[trail hull]

by that logic we shouldn't have gotten reshiram and zekrom

[inland jewel]

i said it maks the most sense

not that it'll follow sense

[trail hull]

oh ok

[inland jewel]

since we got Necrozma before either of them

and genesect before the unova starters

[marble meadow]

i see a pattern

[molten latch]

Pattern of what?

[marble meadow]

it just a guess and my guess is before th legandarys of unova and kalos gets in it will definetly another mytical first and my bet is on diancie

[bitter comet]

Man, that sucks. Guess I should let go of that dream of someone creating the perfect code for adding 9 and 8 that allows Corvknight to the game 💀

[molten latch]

Ye

I do imagine if Ribombee or any mons that didnt make on the list appear

[outer matrix]

I feel like there should be more contests that allow you to make non-if fusions for Gen 8+

besides the contests that already allow this

[glass patio]

The only pokemon from those gens i’d like is falinks, rip

[inland jewel]

Gen 8 and 9 have some banger pokemon

[fallen loom]

yes

[inland jewel]

i like Espathra and Grapploc

but it also has some misses like Thieval and Spidops

[fallen loom]

Grapploct is boring because mono Fighting instead of Fighting/Water or something

[bitter comet]

It just sucks that they’re over shadowed by shitty mechanics.

[fallen loom]

I like the Gen 8 fossils

[inland jewel]

just because its an octopus, doesn't mean it needs to be water

[bitter comet]

Every gen has at least one of those

[inland jewel]

its like how Klawf should be a water type but its pure rock

[fallen loom]

it is found it water

Klawf isn't found in water

[outer matrix]

-# ~~ that means dhelmise should be grass/water or ghost/water ~~

[fallen loom]

Dhelmise looks like it could be 4 types TBF

[rancid nymph]

Dhelmise already has 2 types that make just as much if not more sense than water, meanwhile Grapploct is pure fighting

[glass patio]

they’re fusions lol

[outer matrix]

my comment was a joke, but yeah I can definitely see why grapploct should've been water/fighting

[fallen loom]

what if instead of adding them outright, they're items to fuse with other mon

[outer matrix]

I even thought that myself when I first encountered it

[glass patio]

I was about to say this omfg

[inland jewel]

the data for them would take up a pokedex slot

so at that point just make them a mon

[fallen loom]

it would take up a slot, but only when you use the fossils and splicers

[glass patio]

ofc if they got added frog would probably not do that lol

[fallen loom]

probably

as for Pokémon I like, I like a load of Gen 9 mon like Paradox mon and the starters

[outer matrix]

I like some of the Gen 8 and 9 dlc Pokémon like polchageist

[fallen loom]

GMax kinda sucks because GMax forms are exclusive to SwSh, so at least only 2 Gen 9 mon get special hats/masks

[glass patio]

falinks my beloved

[fallen loom]

Falinks looks like a Paradox of a mon we don't have

it has armor so looks like Steel and it attacks in unison, so looks like it could be Psychic too

[glass patio]

the army of silly

[fallen loom]

like Exeggcute

instead it's mono Fighting??? Why?

[outer matrix]

would definitely see this as a convergent falinks that are reanimated old relics (psychic/rock or ghost/rock?)

[fallen loom]

Ghost/Rock needs to be a thing

also could be Psychic/Fighting or Psychic/Steel

[glass patio]

omfg i was thinking of pokemon that could be used for a falinks alt

How did i forget exeggcute

[tender plank]

i did NOT realise just how small these details were gonna be lol.

this is gonna be hard for me, might need to make the body bigger to accomodate

[fallen loom]

fused with Lugia?

[tender plank]

(or i could just drop it down to #1263858526829416539 bc i DO want to see this sprited)

sharpedo

[inland jewel]

thats not how the pokedex or pokemon data work

the way the fusion system works is that it takes a pokedex block and combines them

so if its not in the pokedex it cannot fuse

[molten latch]

Would be funny for a Beebee fusion lol.

[inland jewel]

so like it takes all the pokemon data of Bulbasaur, and it takes the pokemon data of Charmander and it combines them

[molten latch]

[inland jewel]

it can't miraculously make an exception to get an item and fuse it

it has to be a pokedex slot, and at that point, just make it a pokemon you can get in the game

like it could have worked that way if we used the old fusion system where things were hard-coded

but now its all instanced based

[fallen loom]

I don't like Falinks because it looks like a paradox Weedle (not really), with seaparate bodies that act as one, despite being mono Fighting. The type and the Pokémon really don't match at all, since it has armor and has more in common with Exeggcute than other mono-Fighting Pokémon.

[inland jewel]

the reason why falinks is a fighting type is becaused its based off a roman fighting style

which, you guessed it, is several people lined up in a formation

[fallen loom]

Romans had armor so why not Steel? They also fight as one, so to stop the bodies from being separate it could have been part Psychic

[inland jewel]

what stops dugtrio from being ground/psychic since its 3 bodies act as one

what stops Incineroar from being fighting type since its based off a wrestler

[trail hull]

The fans complaining about it

[fallen loom]

what does Incineroar have to do with anything? For Dugtrio, we don't know what the body looks like, so it could be one body with 3 heads

[fathom ridge]

why is palkia a water type

[fallen loom]

IDK

[bitter comet]

Centiscorch is cool

He’s one of my favorite bugs

[trail hull]

Fans were complaining about having multiple fire fighting starter in a row , that’s why incineroar and cinderace don’t have the fighting type

[fallen loom]

but at least Palkia has two types

[fathom ridge]

fire bug is cool indeed

[rancid nymph]

Because it represents liquids, despite nothing about its design or lore having anything to do with liquids

[inland jewel]

Single-type mons can be cool

[fathom ridge]

falinks feels like a fighting type to me but i can put into words why, it just has the vibe

[inland jewel]

Space is real liquidy

[fallen loom]

they can be if they don't look like they could be a part of another type

[trail hull]

Galar starters scream dual type

[inland jewel]

now thats asking for the impossible

[bitter comet]

Except the grass type one

[inland jewel]

its like saying Weezing should be Poison/Flying since its it floats

[bitter comet]

Unless sound type becomes a thing

[rancid nymph]

What about Alakazam?

[fathom ridge]

Ohhhh and palkia is solid (steel) and giratina is gas (ghost) i didnt notice that but its so obvious

[trail hull]

It’s the hardest one to give a fitting dual

[inland jewel]

evil looking, Dark/Psychic

[fathom ridge]

wdym its steel bc of the spoons

[fallen loom]

RIllaboom as Grass/Fighting

[fathom ridge]

inteleon would be dark?

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907

[trail hull]

But cinderace is more fitting for fighting

[bitter comet]

I’m assuming

[fallen loom]

Cinderace was never going to be Fighting

Cinderace as Fire/Electric instead

[fathom ridge]

if i had to give cinderace a second type i would give it normal

[trail hull]

It’s more fitting for fighting type then the gorilla

[fallen loom]

I think of Rillaboom as part Fighting

[inland jewel]

Cinderace is Fire/Electric

simply because soccer players run fast

[rancid nymph]

Drizzile LOOKS like it’s going to evolve into a poison type, but instead they uno reversed and made its final evolution look like its base form

[bitter comet]

Man’s amazing how even if we do get the right code frog will never add gen 8/8 lol

[fathom ridge]

what do you mean with "base form"

[fallen loom]

Intelion is too skinny though

[fathom ridge]

gen 8 mons arent too crazy ngl

[rancid nymph]

I mean Sobble

[fathom ridge]

gen 9 in the other hand...

[fathom ridge]

oh yeah

[inland jewel]

i mean, its one thing to be able to do something, its another to hate the thing

[bitter comet]

Is it bad that I kind of like Intelion?

[fallen loom]

at least Gen 9 didn't make a trash looking bipedal cat starter

[fathom ridge]

dont be ashame i also kinda like it

[bitter comet]

I might be kind of biased since he was the first starter mon for my first play through lol

[rancid nymph]

Do you dislike Emboar for being the 3rd fire/fighting starter?

[bitter comet]

Eh I’m neutral on it

[coral axle]

I like Inteleon too

[bitter comet]

Don’t really really care either way

[fathom ridge]

gen 9 and 8 starters kinda suck bc they look to much like just persons, expect fuecoco the beloved child

[rancid nymph]

I strongly believe that Gen 8 has the worst starters in the franchise

[fallen loom]

the cat looks less creepy than Incineroar

[inland jewel]

i mena... the cat was supposed to be gooner bait

[fallen loom]

Torracat was peak

[bitter comet]

Man, when we finally gonna get a full set of non-bipedal starters?

[inland jewel]

since leakers kept on classifying it as the "next gen waifu mon up there with Gardevoir and Loppuny

[fallen loom]

snake

[bitter comet]

Yes, snake would be cool

[fallen loom]

Snivy

[bitter comet]

It has legs though, so not a snake

[rancid nymph]

When Pokémon brings back the national dex

Which is to say never

[fallen loom]

Oshawott did the reverse

[fallen loom]

they can have nails though

[trail hull]

Sv gaves us back all starters back

[bitter comet]

*functional legs

[rancid nymph]

That’s still not the national dex

[fallen loom]

not fully evolved

[fathom ridge]

leakers are kinda weird ngl mewscarada doesnt even look feminine

[bitter comet]

Ohhh right I forgot about that

[trail hull]

Yes but that’s still non bipedal starters

[bitter comet]

They need to touch some grass

[inland jewel]

i mean, the furry community would disagree with you

the amount of art for meowscarada is insane

[fathom ridge]

vaporeon

[rancid nymph]

We don’t claim them

[inland jewel]

we can ignore them all we want, but someone in nintendo is keeping track

and making designs

[fathom ridge]

seriously vaporeon is just a dog wtf

[bitter comet]

They should make designs for that community that are not starters

[inland jewel]

according to the furry community, its not "just" a dog

[rancid nymph]

It’s not a dog at all

[inland jewel]

i mean, Lugia is top 10 for their fetish art

[outer matrix]

A fish?

[fathom ridge]

well not just a dog but like a dog like thing

[bitter comet]

WHAT

HOW?

[fathom ridge]

bc it kinda looks like something else

[rancid nymph]

It’s also not a sus Pokémon, the internet is just stupid

[rancid nymph]

Don’t ask questions you don’t want the answers to

[bitter comet]

There really should be a tone indicator for rhetorical questions

[weak trellis]

its text, you don't get a tone option beyond italics and sarcasm

||or you're working with colors||

[fathom ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-vikavolt-charjabug-gif-9816156

[cobalt river]

how in gods name does this channel keep turning to r2 like half the time i check in here

[fathom ridge]

dalily vikavolt reminder

[inland jewel]

you don't want to know

[weak trellis]

as for lugia, ||it was a heavily promoted pokemon during gens 2 and 3 and remains one of the more popular legendaries in the series for a non-rule 2 answer||

[inland jewel]

but like, top 10 are Lucario, Lugia, Pikachu, Eevee, Gardevoir, Loppunny,

and a few others that i cannot recall

[fathom ridge]

dialga is better imo

[bitter comet]

People scare me

[outer matrix]

Can the subject be changed?

[fathom ridge]

might be mystery dungeon bias

[bitter comet]

Sure

[weak trellis]

I've noticed that most of the big dialga reppers are PMD fans yea rofl

[cobalt river]

here look at bees

[bitter comet]

Beeeeeessssssssss

[inland jewel]

Bees please

[weak trellis]

ribos

[fathom ridge]

Oh i love the gallade so much i need ribombee the cute bee is soooooooooo cute little guy so little

[bitter comet]

Man, I don’t know why people aren’t making any Malamar propaganda

[fathom ridge]

gen 7 bugs are all bangers

[inland jewel]

But yeah, just because a pokemon isn't human-like it isn't off limits to being people's most hated/ most favorite mons

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/bees-deltora-quest-bee-meme-deltora-quest-gif-21153737

[inland jewel]

like my favorite mon of all times is Purugly, and its just a fat cat

[fathom ridge]

like vikavolt, golisopod, ribombee, aquaranid

[cobalt river]

malamar would be a fun one :] ive just been prioritizing fairies im a fairy stan
also ty Azul!

[weak trellis]

it's just that I assume people want more Kaiju since I almost never see design complains for the mons that are just -> monsters <-

both of those are good

[outer matrix]

more faries are needed tbh

[weak trellis]

purgly feels like a wonky snorlax that works better as a body (something snorlax struggles with)

[fathom ridge]

someone asked me for malamar propaganda a while ago and i made this guy (actually was it you?)

[inland jewel]

i mean, purugly makes a great body-mon anyway

[cobalt river]

ooo lookin electrastic!

[inland jewel]

its 112 speed stat works best as a body

[bitter comet]

If you ever have like time to not prioritize fairies, I personally think that a Malamar and Gyarados body combination would make a cool Eldritch horror

[bitter comet]

I think it might’ve been me

[fathom ridge]

if vikavolt gets added i would need to touch up some of the propaganda ive made

[bitter comet]

Also, cool fusion

[inland jewel]

The qustion then is how is Inkay gonna eolve?

[clear lichen]

Vaporeon is definitely more cat than dog

[fathom ridge]

let me check the ancient records

[clear lichen]

And more fish than both honestly

[inland jewel]

do we turn our computer upside down?

[bitter comet]

NPC?

Maybe a special keyboard combination?

[inland jewel]

Let it hold a DNA Reverser maybe

well, until the server issue is fixed we will never know

[bitter comet]

Could work

[weak trellis]

I think the only eeveelution I have a firm opinion on is espeon being cat lol

[outer matrix]

Opinions on my scrafty/meloetta?

[trail hull]

What I love about new mons coming is that it impacts everything from YouTubers farming fusion to the showdown player or even the dex entries it so cool to see.

[fathom ridge]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message it was indeed you

[fathom ridge]

drip

[clear lichen]

According to Bulbapedia, Vaporeon was originally a dog but got redesigned to look more like a cat

[inland jewel]

i mean, lorewise that makes sense since the Legendary dogs were said to be mutated from the eeveelutions

[clear lichen]

It also talks about fish, dolphins, mermaids, fennec foxes, catfish, sea lions, lions and The Merlion

[clear lichen]

The legendary beasts also draw more parallels with cats than dogs

And have elements of both

[weak trellis]

ok real talk this is off topic but

[clear lichen]

And primative whales

[weak trellis]

that scraftetta is great but it makes me think how little sassy tentacruel we have

[trail hull]

Do you guys think we’ll get a legendary ?

[clear lichen]

I doubt it

[weak trellis]

I think porygon/tenta's the one I can think of?

[clear lichen]

Though I'd love Lunala

[trail hull]

It would be cool but too much cost worthy slot wise

[outer matrix]

wdym?

[bitter comet]

Ah

[deft obsidian]

Based

[weak trellis]

a short but memorable moment

[fathom ridge]

the UU boss

[rancid nymph]

THEY’RE NOT DOGS

[outer matrix]

Cats

[clear lichen]

Hey I already said that

[fathom ridge]

big four legged mammals

is legged a word?

[clear lichen]

Yes

[molten loom]

#event-announcements message Hmm wonder if this is a new mon

[hollow creek]

If its actual komala that would be insane

[clear lichen]

Stick in hand

Stone in throat

Red

[tender plank]

gonna be honest this may be out of my level right now, might just hand it over to someone or hold it off until I'm better at spriting. so here's the final-ish sketch of shartouga.
meanwhile, i'll go think of a simpler touga to do, wanna get back to spriting.

oh, new ping

[clear lichen]

And "cherished without a vote"

[fathom ridge]

A stick in my hand, and a stone in my throat High in a tree, Red for all to see Draw me Then sprite me, Cherished without a vote
ITS VIKAVOLT ITS SO CLEAR bc, umm it just is vikavolt trust me

[outer matrix]

Stone in my throat?

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-just-stop-please-stop-stop-it-meme-gif-26307878

[fathom ridge]

oh its volveat

[full bison]

CHERUBI

[clear lichen]

Stone in throats makes this a lot harder

[full bison]

STONE IN THROAT LIKE A CHERRY PIT

[hollow creek]

Guys could it actually be cherrim

[fathom ridge]

"red for all to see", "cherished without a vote"

[clear lichen]

Where is Cherrim's stick

[outer matrix]

So the reveal is red?

[full bison]

Stem

[fathom ridge]

oh wait cherished

[clear lichen]

... ykw

It could actually be Cherrim

[hollow creek]

I wonder how long it will take for someone to crack this riddle

~~Cause i know it aint gonna be me ~~

[outer matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cherubi-pokemon-cute-kawaii-gif-17863428

[frank marten]

Are they saying zero people voted for it 💀

[sick edge]

stick in my hand throws me off a bit

[full bison]

I'm 100% convinced it's Cherubi with what I said. I'm either gonna feel like a genius or a moron

[molten loom]

I'm saying I voted 0 for it

[fathom ridge]

were is the stick? were is the rock in the throat?

[clear lichen]

Every Pokemon got at least 1 vote I'd assume

[molten loom]

The Legends Arceus quest made me despise it

[clear lichen]

But Cherrim probably has a low number of voted

[hollow creek]

Its definitely not the bottom 5

[tender plank]

i shoved the rock in

[clear lichen]

Someone theorised it could mean a cherry pit

[simple gulch]

the stone

[full bison]

Stem, cherry pit

[simple gulch]

the seed is clled a stone

[clear lichen]

Also, who tf is actually eating a stone

[simple gulch]

:v but no vote? doubt it

[fathom ridge]

oh its actually the cherry

[molten loom]

Sableye

[clear lichen]

Doesn't live in trees

[molten loom]

You asked who is eating a stone

[fathom ridge]

still were is the stick?

[bitter comet]

Wait if we’re getting Cherrim does that mean we’re getting a weather update?

[fathom ridge]

is also already in IF

[molten loom]

Or gabite

[simple gulch]

:v stick and stone cant make cherrim in IF

[bitter comet]

Because if I remember it correctly, it’s other form is triggered by sun

[clear lichen]

True but that's irrelevant

[fathom ridge]

cherubi not the other one

[clear lichen]

We already have the weathers

[full bison]

Taking it all literally, the only Pokemon I can think of holding sticks are the Fennikin line and Farfetch'd. Farfetch'd is already in the game and Fennikin is confirmed already

[bitter comet]

They are not the same mon or at least a part of the same line?

[clear lichen]

But this could be a nice time to fix the speed abilities

Abilities like Chlorophyll, Swift Swim and Slush Rush

[fathom ridge]

oh you are right

[hollow creek]

Cherrim does not feel like a pokemon frog would add although it does have a unique ability

[clear lichen]

Though I think Slush Rush was exclusive to A-Sandslash in Gen 7

[bitter comet]

I thought they didn’t have it well implemented across the map

[full bison]

If it is Cherrim, you think it's form change would be tied to Flower Gift?

[fathom ridge]

i didnt know cherubi evolved!

[weak trellis]

technically frog can turn the other form into another stat boost (1.5x attack and special defense in sun)

[grave jolt]

Morning all

[civic harness]

Monkeys reveal

[fathom ridge]

THERE ARE NEWS

[hollow creek]

I think im one of the few people that actually really like cherrim

[clear lichen]

Hello, a funny poem appeared and people think it is the cherry

[grave jolt]

What happened?

[weak trellis]

nope! beartic got it as well. I also believe that's the ONLY non-regional gen 1-6 mon that got a new gen 7 ability too

[fathom ridge]

A stick in my hand, and a stone in my throat
High in a tree,
Red for all to see
Draw me
Then sprite me,
Cherished without a vote

[civic harness]

Apple attack

[clear lichen]

Oh mb

[tender plank]

with all that frog said about the criteria, cherubi is sure an interesting choice

[simple gulch]

weather base ability is not worked properly

[carmine glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cherubi-pokemon-cute-kawaii-gif-17863428

[bitter comet]

I’m neutral on it, but I don’t get the hate of it by some people.

[hollow creek]

like how do you not like this

[clear lichen]

Was it gained in Gen 7 itself?

[simple gulch]

i wonndder if frog gonna fix them

[clear lichen]

Or was it retroactively added?

[simple gulch]

i see an octopus

[opaque ether]

But does Frog like the 'Yenas?

[hollow creek]

Maybe the reason they're getting added is BECAUSE frog fixed them

Someone on event chat also said it could be passimian

[clear lichen]

Passimian isn't red

Yeah that's all I have to say

[full bison]

Cherubi just makes too much sense with all the hints. Stone in throat= cherry pit, red for all to see, living in trees... the big stretch is holding a stick, but what pokemon holds a stick besides the Fennekin line and Farfetch'd?

[hollow creek]

passimian and oranguru, i think they gave some reddish

[fathom ridge]

There is an official list of red Pokémon in the Pokédex but idk if they would use it bc game freak is colorblind

[clear lichen]

Also, isn't that a fruit?

[fathom ridge]

But the stick???

[clear lichen]

Passimian is classified as white

[civic harness]

Wait

Wait

[clear lichen]

The closest to red it has is a small mark on its forehead that is orange

[fathom ridge]

Ngl lie is probably the cherry X)

[grave jolt]

Gonna be the monkeys for pansear and simisear

[clear lichen]

Not gonna lie lie

[grave jolt]

Calling it now

[hollow creek]

The riddle says "then sprite me" so start spriting yall

[fathom ridge]

Haha

[civic harness]

Darumaka?

[simple gulch]

its stem is stick?

[clear lichen]

That's what I thought at first but why would bro eat a rock? Is he stupid?

[fathom ridge]

English hard

[clear lichen]

There isn't any figurative thing here either

[fathom ridge]

No stick

[clear lichen]

Unlike cherrim and cherry pits

[full bison]

that's one of the only stick adjacent things I can think of RN

[simple gulch]

stonned to ded

[clear lichen]

Grookey holds a stick

[civic harness]

Is revealed with an stick in the hand

[clear lichen]

But doesn't eat rocks

And isnt red

So yeah

It's also from Gen 8

[fathom ridge]

Well I didn’t think of that

[carmine glacier]

I am too lazy right now but if anybody is interest here is a custom base idea one could make

[civic harness]

I dont think that the awnser It could be too obvious, you know, like a troll move

[hollow creek]

To be fair I am also too lazy + dont have time for POTENTIALLY non-if pokemon

[grave jolt]

I'd say Delphox if it wasn't already revealed

[last pecan]

Cherubi boys

lets gooo

[clear lichen]

My favourite arboreal Pokemon

Delphox

[hollow creek]

Really im down to be surprised it could be anything tbh, luv me cryptic riddles

[grave jolt]

Can't wait to see grass type walrein

[hollow creek]

maybe its mandibuzz just cuz

[fathom ridge]

What if it is a random Pokémon painted red holding a stick with a stone in his throat dying

[tender plank]

YEAHHHH (if it's just walrein i'm down)

[bitter comet]

Man, I do want that mon to be added

[full bison]

If it is Cherubi I'll be of two minds on it

On one hand it'dmean I was right

[civic harness]

Right... or maybe not even an pokemon

[full bison]

on the other, that leaves 10 slots

[clear lichen]

... What are mangosteen seeds like?

[fathom ridge]

I think the cherry is almost guaranteed tbh

[full bison]

meaning probably no UBs

[hollow creek]

mandibuzz is a hidden gem

[clear lichen]

Wait, Tsareena definitely got a high number of votes

Ignore that

[bitter comet]

Biblically accurate vulture

[bitter comet]

I’m also biased to it because vultures are my favorite type of bird irl

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/mandibuzz-vulture-angry-vulture-angry-bird-screaming-bird-gif-6878516635744132384

[fathom ridge]

Mandibuzz could fit with the bone and it’s kinda red

[tender plank]

this was too funny of an idea to not visualise (he will be fine, he's a rock type, hopefully he can digest rocks)

[digital ferry]

Luvdisc confirmed!?

[full bison]

The only red UB is Buzzwole, it lives in trees as shown in Ultra Jungle, but it doesn't eat rocks or hold sticks

[hollow creek]

could be toucannon for all we know

[fathom ridge]

That’s epic

[clear lichen]

Was toying with the idea of it referring to Bounsweet

[civic harness]

Well, I guess

[grave jolt]

If mandibuzz gets in I hope we get braviary too

[clear lichen]

But yeah no way Tsareena is unpopular

[fathom ridge]

Staff members actually know how it will be this time soooo

[hollow creek]

We're not gonna know who it is until someone makes a sprite of the pokemon in question

[clear lichen]

Yknow, Toucannon does learn Rock Blast doesn't it

[hollow creek]

Toucannon im not crazy hyped for but its also not horrible

[tender plank]

sigh... gotta get touging then, it's the least i could do...

give me a red mon

any

[clear lichen]

Doesn't have a stick though

[civic harness]

Another green hair anime girl for the game?

[tender plank]

(but pref an easy one)

[bitter comet]

A bird, is bird a bird

[simple gulch]

clerly is ribbaboon

[full bison]

Is there a list of all the Mons that haven't been added yet?

[bitter comet]

event general is going crazy

[tender plank]

not a list but i do have this image

[bitter comet]

Man, if gen 8+ could be added, I would say it was applin but well, y’all know

[full bison]

What if "Holding a stick" was referring to Timburr's plank, and "Pebble in it's throat" because it's fighting type and metaphorically eats Rock types for breakfast...?

Kinda a stretch tho

[acoustic tartan]

i guess its the toucannon line

[bitter comet]

Wait cotton candy dog has a red fruit on its head

No stick or rock though

[tender plank]

that's bc it would break their bones (if they even have any)

duh

[full bison]

Cotton Candy is famously served on sticks

[clear lichen]

Monkeys can use sticks as tools but they don't really eat rocks

[bitter comet]

But what would the rock be?

[clear lichen]

Some animals do eat rocks though so there's that

[tender plank]

guys i cracked it, aggron's coming

[mighty moss]

especially birds

[mighty moss]

birds get confused differing seeds and rocks

they real dumb

[clear lichen]

Apparently, herbivorous birds eat rocks to help with digestion

Toucans are mostly herbivorous

[full bison]

What red birds are there left? Braviary?

[clear lichen]

So Toucannon is a possibility that must be respected

It is not extremely red

But it has a very slight amount of it

I do think Cherubi+Cherrim are more likely

But yeah

[marble meadow]

well it will take months or week till the next reveal i guess

unless the problem gets solved this week

[clear lichen]

Other animals that commonly have gastroliths include crocodilians and pinnipeds (seals and sea lions)

[half needle]

i think its most likely cherrim

[clear lichen]

I dont think either have arboreal representatives in Pokemon

[zealous lichen]

cherrim makes sense

[half needle]

cause its a cherry so it has a stone in its throat, kind of

also i like cherrim

[clear lichen]

So yeah, Cherrim and Toucannon are the 2 most likely, Cherrim a lot more than Toucannon

[half needle]

one pokemon i noticed was timburr's line but idk if it lives in trees

[hollow creek]

If you think cherrim makes sense do a sprite for it cause that might be what solves the riddle

[clear lichen]

Toucannon only had a slight amount of red

[clear lichen]

Lol no I'm not a spriter

[marble meadow]

nah imagine onece that problem is fix its another bug type pokemon

[clear lichen]

I'm just theorising

[zealous lichen]

its pre evolutions have a fair bit though

[clear lichen]

Bugs do not eat rocks

[hollow creek]

Im just motivating spriters in chat with more time than me

[half needle]

slowpoke/cherrim

[fathom ridge]

Cherrim just fits so well the riddle

[bitter comet]

They said draw it so I’m thinking maybe concept art as well as spriting it

[tender plank]

A custom base just got posted, wonder if that's enough to satisfy the prompt

actually i think it would

it really should count

[bitter comet]

This is Pokémon infinite fusions

A simple base sprite shall not cut it

[half needle]

by the by the pokemon in the vote that have sticks in their hands are oranguru, floette, timburr, and komala

[tender plank]

'draw me'
never said 'fuse me'

[hollow creek]

TRUE!!!

[clear lichen]

None of those Pokemon fulfill the other conditions in any sense

[hollow creek]

It would be funny if the riddle was solved THAT fast lol

[clear lichen]

Oranguru is arboreal, but isn't red and doesn't eat rocks

[full bison]

Timburr has a red clown nose for all to see

[bitter comet]

True

[clear lichen]

Floette can be red, and idk maybe it's arboreal, but it definitely doesn't eat rocks

[half needle]

it might not specifically be that it eats rocks

[hollow creek]

You dont know that though, you could ask oranguru in person

[half needle]

it might be like it has a rock on its throat like rockruff or something like that

[bitter comet]

If this is the case, then we should start posting base sprites for every mon that could make the condition

[clear lichen]

Timburr is reddish, and figuratively eats rock types (destroys then in battle) but isn't arboreal

Komala isn't red

Probably doesn't eat rocks/have rocks in its throat either

But it does live in trees

[zealous lichen]

In some areas, orangutans may practise geophagy, which involves consuming soil and other earth substances. They will uproot soil from the ground as well as eat shelter tubes from tree trunks. Orangutans also visit the sides of cliffs or earth depressions for their mineral licks. Orangutans may eat soils for their anti-toxic kaolin minerals, since their diet contains toxic tannins and phenolic acids.

[outer matrix]

Any developments to the riddle?

[half needle]

i looked at cherrim's tcg art to see if any of them have sticks in their hands and they dont but this is so fucking cute

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been3000years-pokemon-pokemon-x-and-y-az-floette-gif-14838348

[zealous lichen]

I think Oranguru makes a lot of sense since they do infact eat rocks in real life

[half needle]

maybe theyre adding 2 pokemon and they want us to mix the riddle to find which 2 pokemon to fuse

[marble meadow]

post this gif again if floette gets in

[zealous lichen]

well they lick them and eat some soils

[clear lichen]

Licking rocks isn't eating it

[full bison]

adding 2 Pokemon could be a possibility if they wanna make up for the spriterepo delay

[clear lichen]

Maybe it got stuck in its throat?

[marble meadow]

do u think we learn more about az in za

[zealous lichen]

no

[clear lichen]

Idk

[bitter comet]

No, we get to learn about his twin brother who is coincidentally also named za

[half needle]

ok so when oranguru eats rocks its "geophagy" but when I eat rocks

[half needle]

god that would be so fucking cool

[bitter comet]

You’re a menace to all rocks

[clear lichen]

While I can't find any direct statement on the matter, herbivorous birds swallow rocks to help with digestion

Toucans are mostly herbivorous

[bitter comet]

And you are going to be thrown in jail for menacing the rocks

[full bison]

So the most likely answers to the riddle so far are Oranguru and Cherubi, Maybe Slurpuff with a bit of a stretch

[marble meadow]

you do u but u may be a goron if u can eat rocks

[clear lichen]

So Toucannon likely swallows rocks

And thus it is possible they got stuck in its throat

[half needle]

that's just how i rock... rolls away on heelies and instantly falls over and breaks my leg

[clear lichen]

It also has a lot more red than Oranguru, though this is because not 0 is a lot bigger than 0

[last pecan]

CHERUBI RISE UP BABYYY

[half needle]

yeah i still think its cherubi just becuas i fucking love cherubi and cherrim

[clear lichen]

Cherubi is the most likely

I think followed by Toucannon

[last pecan]

i was not expecting Cherubi, im not at all opposed

[half needle]

guys

what if its a pokemon that wasnt in the vote at all

[clear lichen]

Is Yveltal herbivorous

[tender plank]

gaslighting everyone into thinking touga was never in the vote

[half needle]

who has the unadded pokemon chart

[marble meadow]

whats going on what did i miss

[half needle]

JARVIS GET ME THE CHART

[last pecan]

Clampearl

[full bison]

There's a riddle relating to the next mon reveal

[clear lichen]

Would Buzzwole eat rocks to flex?

[half needle]

he was in the vote

[clear lichen]

Idk

I just don't think any legendary, mythical or UB would be likely

[half needle]

agreed

[tender plank]

i sure hope not.
they don't even have a mouth so i'd be worried either way

[clear lichen]

Not from this riddle at least

[full bison]

Absolutely. Question is does it have anything to do with sticks?

[ember bear]

does it even eat?

[storm rose]

Its probably grumpig the riddle is talking about

[ember bear]

i just assume it just drinks everything instead

[clear lichen]

... Fair

[marble meadow]

im bad at riidles so i wait until something gets announcent

[clear lichen]

Would Buzzwole choke on liquid rock?

[full bison]

Grumpig has no sticks and no red

[gloomy coyote]

who do you think is next?

[silk narwhal]

A stick in my hand, and a stone in my throat
High in a tree,
Red for all to see
Draw me
Then sprite me,
Cherished without a vote

[bitter comet]

OK, so someone needs to make a concept art then sprite the mon

[gloomy coyote]

maybe… flechling???

[storm rose]

Doesnt matter grumpig still cool

[clear lichen]

Isn't Talonflame already in the game

[full bison]

Fletchling is already in

[clear lichen]

And based on a carnivorous bird?

[gloomy coyote]

o h :/

[clear lichen]

OK seriously is Yveltal herbivorous or not

[half needle]

i found it

[zealous lichen]

its not going to be Yveltal

[silk narwhal]

Dude it's the embodiment of death

[half needle]

doesnt it just shlurp energy from stuff around it?

[bitter comet]

He feeds on the souls of the innocent

[silk narwhal]

Anyways, cherished without a vote obviously means that it's a mon that wasn't in the vote

[full bison]

could Kricketune be seen as holding a stick considering it's arms are based on violin bows/conductor batons?

[clear lichen]

I couldn't find anything about it eating or choking on rocks

Though ig it is weak to Stealth Rocks

[gloomy coyote]

Hmmm… it must be a flying type or grass?

[zealous lichen]

it is likely but not nessiary

[half needle]

tbh cherubi isnt even red its pink

guys this is hurting my brane can we all just agree its skitty and call it a day

[clear lichen]

Technically, Gen 8 mons like Grookey and Applin had 0 votes

[last pecan]

but Cherry

[gloomy coyote]

Wait… maybe.. cinderace? (Probably not but still-)

[bitter comet]

Maybe the reference to a stone is the fact that the Pokémon we’re looking for evolves with a stone

[zealous lichen]

its nothing from Gen 8 on

[hot hamlet]

If it is indeed Cherubi, I demand a fusion of Cherubi/Voltorb to be a literal cherry with the stem burning like a fuse. An actual Cherry Bomb
Bonus points if it has a tiny version of Cherubi’s happy 🙂 face on it

[clear lichen]

Why is bro choking on their evolution stone? Are they stupid?

[bitter comet]

Yes

[zealous lichen]

I would do that

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/zygarde-perfect-zygarde-zygarde-perfect-pokemon-pokemon-xy-gif-6971736008687605923

[half needle]

WAIT GUYS

WASNT THERE A MAGIKARP THAT SWALLOWED AN EVERSTONE ONCE

IT CANT BE...

[gloomy coyote]

????

[half needle]

ITS

[tender plank]

oh

ICE

[gloomy coyote]

NOOOOOOOO

[half needle]

ICE TYPE MAGIKARP

[green thicket]

Maybe the vullaby line

[full bison]

The only stone evos I can think of remaining are Cinccino and the Monkeys

[gloomy coyote]

OH FU-

[half needle]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[grave jolt]

No stick

[half needle]

the stick is the stick in the mud that you are

[zealous lichen]

are they red?

[rancid nymph]

I mean, Ash’s Rowlet ate an everstone, and kept eating it every time he spit it out

[hot hamlet]

Heads are but otherwise no

[green thicket]

Kinda

[hot hamlet]

Well pink

[clear lichen]

So what you're telling me is that monkeys are a possibility?

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/turtwig-piplup-no-u-pokémon-gif-20589615

[clear lichen]

Interesting

Very

Very

Interesting

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/passimian-alola-pokemon-sun-moon-gif-7435967

[clear lichen]

... What do y'all think?

[full bison]

You know what else could be considered to have a stem, eat rocks and lives in trees?

Burmy

[rancid nymph]

Vullaby is brown

[full bison]

and the Red could be trash cloak

[gloomy coyote]

so.. if grookey is the one of them…what if the gen 8 starters are going with it???

[zealous lichen]

I wasnt sure about the head

[clear lichen]

That is so pink

I know Cherubi is also kinda pink

[grave jolt]

Like that experiment that run by that one scientist in the pokemon mansion

[half needle]

you know what i think

i think its

freddy fazbear

[clear lichen]

But like trash burmy is ultra pink

And cherries can be red irl

[silk narwhal]

It's 100% cherubi which is crazy because it sucks balls

[scenic gull]

I think its Cherrim and cherubi

[half needle]

that was an undertale reference

[half needle]

THEMS FIGHTING WORDS

[full bison]

Cherubi could make for some interesting Sun teams.

[green thicket]

It’s cherrim

[half needle]

drawing slowpoke/cherrim right now

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-pokemon-pokemon-go-ludicolo-cherubi-gif-21340610

[hot hamlet]

Chwrished without a vote. Everybody talked about “no Cherrim” and few voted for it

[tender plank]

eh, indifferent to it, but that's just a theory so i shouldn't take this to heart

[clear lichen]

If having a stone in a throat refers to evolution stones, Florges line is once again a possibility

[noble mulch]

what's it supposed to be

[half needle]

i cant see floette living in trees

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been3000years-pokemon-pokemon-x-and-y-az-floette-gif-14838348

[full bison]

Florges never struck me as arboreal, but I suppose flowers could be seen as being as huge as trees to Flabebe

[coral axle]

Florges would be so cool

[tender plank]

guys i am the pokemon
(i still have not gotten the rock out of my system, is anyone here a doctor?)

[clear lichen]

Trees can have flowers in them

You never know

[bitter comet]

The only doctors we have here are ones that have lost their medical licenses

[clear lichen]

I still think Cherubi line is most likely

[half needle]

yeah like cherry blossoms

trol

[tender plank]

is it tirtougover for me then, former doc?

[gloomy coyote]

Heart to heart intensifys

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-tf2-memes-medic-gif-11022779945058383803

[bitter comet]

Yes

[tender plank]

well, i guess i have a few last words...

gamers, keep on tirtouging on for me😔🙏

dies of death

[full bison]

Maybe not. Archen lives in trees, is Rock type, and is partially red... tho i'm not sure about the sticks

[scenic gull]

Cherubi is kind of red(not red but close) its a cherry so in the trees, so also stone in throat like cherry pit if its called that and the leafs on its head for the stick on the head.

[full bison]

And Archen would prob come with Tirtouga

[grave jolt]

Archeops probably built nests

[bitter comet]

Why is this gif so funny?

[tender plank]

that's not the issue, the issue was the rock jammed into my stomach (i tried to emulate what the mon would do)
(this is my ghost typing this btw boo)

[clear lichen]

Gamefreak giving it Defeatist was akin to shoving a stick directly through its skull out the other side

Does that count

[tender plank]

enough for me to cope

[grave jolt]

I read ghost typing as one noun because pokemon types lmfao

[full bison]

So far the most convincing argument is Cherubi, but Flabebe's decently convincing and I've gaslit myself into thinking it could also be Archen

[tender plank]

ok there's been 2 cherubi's in #1050404143807873157 and nothing's come out yet

[stoic sluice]

So guys what are guesses for this one?
The first think I thought is cherrim.

[tender plank]

is it cherover?

or do we need fusion?

[clear lichen]

The main issue I have with Flabébé is the line about being unpopular

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/archen-pokemon-goofy-goober-silly-intense-gif-8165086753498951633

[clear lichen]

Florges doesn't strike me as an unpopular Pokemon

[zealous lichen]

watch them decide based on who we think the answer is lol

[gloomy coyote]

wait that pokemon could be the one..

[full bison]

Was Archen in the vote?

[tender plank]

oh that's gore...
gore of my son... being eaten alive...
/j

[zealous lichen]

Archen doesnt have a stick at all

[tender plank]

AWIT
ROCK IN STOMACH
TIRTOUGA ROCK TYPE

TIURTLE IN STOMCAH

IT'S ARCHEN

[grave jolt]

Archeops is a bird, so it builds nests

Some dinosaurs also swallowed rocks to aid in digestion

[stoic sluice]

So guys what you're guesses for a new Mon?

[tender plank]

hoping it's archen

[full bison]

cherubi is the most logical pick currently

flabebe also has a strong case

[tender plank]

guys someone make a cherubi fusion rq, there's only been bases so far maybe it needs a fusion

[grave jolt]

Archen is a choice too, hope for eternal flebébé

[half needle]

here's red pokemon:

wurmple
swellow
crawdaunt
volbeat
plusle
spinda
kricketune
darumaka
escavalier
amoonguss
simisear
mienfoo
druddigon
braviary
gurdurr
excadrill
gigalith
throh
scrafty
pyroar
heatmor
floette
slurpuff
volcanion
yveltal
litten
mudsdale
tapu bulu
buzzwole
pikipek

[gloomy coyote]

CHRIST-

[zealous lichen]

oh swellow makes sense

[grave jolt]

Oh god it's Plusle

[half needle]

youre welcome

guys hear me out on my crack theory

combee and vespiquen

if its female it has a big red thing on its head for everyone to see

[gloomy coyote]

We need to do order of elemination.
Okay yall?

[grave jolt]

Plusle didn't get a single vote in the spriters raffle

[clear lichen]

The singular small red spot? Seriously?

[half needle]

plus vespiquen kind of looks like it swallowed a big rock

[gloomy coyote]

wait are you talking about the one with minum or the other one-

[clear lichen]

What

[half needle]

in a funny way

"we all out of spheres"

[clear lichen]

Tbf, Vespiquen is Bug/Flying

[zealous lichen]

I think combee and plusel are not likely at all

[clear lichen]

It would definitely choke on a sneaky pebble and die near instantly

[stoic sluice]

Wait a second
Well inglish is not my main language so I entered word sprite in translator
And it have another meaning of word fairy

[half needle]

yeah thats why its a crack theory

[grave jolt]

That's what they want you to think

[odd hamlet]

I'm really hoping it's Archen

[stoic sluice]

Interesting

[tender plank]

ok it isn't toucannon

[half needle]

yeah, kinda interesting in this context actually

[tender plank]

sprites posted, yet nothing

or maybe i just got low att span

[zealous lichen]

I dont think they are just going to announce it right away

[grave jolt]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message

[half needle]

agreed

[stoic sluice]

Maybe it's flabebe line then

[grave jolt]

Plusle got a single person voting for them

[glass patio]

#event-announcements message omfg i didnt see this does everyone know this alr

[half needle]

its all we been talking about

[zealous lichen]

lol

[glass patio]

holy shit

A stick in my hand uhhh braixen nah it’s alr added

[half needle]

we've come to the definitive conclusion that its ice type magikarp

[stoic sluice]

So your guesses?

[half needle]

its sirfetchd 5head

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/minun-plusle-pokemon-gif-5853253

[zealous lichen]

I think its going to be Cherubi

[glass patio]

Idfk why does binacle appear

[tender plank]

do you not see the obvious stick?

[glass patio]

it does not have a stick on its hand dawg

[tender plank]

it does, you're just not looking hard enough

shaking my smh

[bitter comet]

Time to get our thinking caps on

We must find a way of knowing if we are right

[glass patio]

uhhh idk

wait toxicroak?

like it has things on its hands

[tender plank]

loudred that is NOT a rock get that OUT OF THERE BEFORE-

[glass patio]

“RED FOR ALL TO SEE” IT HAS RED

[hollow creek]

Toxicroak reveal would be lowkey insane

If its actually toxicroak though

[glass patio]

quick

make a toxicroak sprite

[hollow creek]

Sorry working on venonat/frogadier rn

[half needle]

sounds like it could be toxicroak

[glass patio]

I dont have time

[half needle]

thats a cool mon im here for it

[tender plank]

apparently we gotta 'drag that deleted user' back into the sever...

[glass patio]

wait high in a tree

uhhh

[gray stream]

probably is cherrubi, but idrc what it is cause all possibilities seem pretty based

[glass patio]

yeah idk if it’s toxicroak is toxicroak on trees

[half needle]

this guy gets it