pif-hoenn-discussion

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/wishiwashi-saimurai-united-regions-gif-2821689726807868009

[fallen loom]

I don't mean the Pokémon themselves, I mean their actual typings

[tender plank]

not every pokemon needs needs to be a dual type tbh

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/dondozo-hello-chat-pokemon-gif-1859592209133672730

[fallen loom]

Samurott could have easily

[velvet root]

Lol

[fallen loom]

Clauncher could have been part Dark or Fighting

[full bison]

You think any Wishiwashi fusion could reach a high tier if the School form is tied to Schooling ingame?

[velvet root]

How is clauncher line part fighting

He has a gun

[tender plank]

???

those just seem forced tbh

[grave jolt]

Steel type clauncher

[fallen loom]

I mean Mantis Shrimp IRL use sound waves to shatter their enemies, so that's pretty evil

[full bison]

Clawitzer could've been cooler as a Water/Fire type. Cause Pistol Shrimps IRL create bubbles hotter than the sun

[fallen loom]

damn it

[velvet root]

He isnt a mantis shrimp tho

[full bison]

Clauncher is a pistol shrimp, not Mantis

[fallen loom]

WHY

[grave jolt]

it's an animal that's trying to stop itself from being eaten and/or open its food.

[velvet root]

Also isnt sound normal type

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/whismur-jigglypuff-pokemon-singing-playful-gif-7400281

[full bison]

Sound isn't any type in particular

Noivern

Skeledirge

Grasswhistle

[fallen loom]

WHY can't we have more than one Ice/Fire Type that isn't some form change at less than half health? WHY is Volcanion the only Water/Fire type?

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/my-treasure-makes-chapati-minnie-mouse-cooking-messy-kitchen-dont-know-how-to-cook-gif-15278489

[full bison]

Toxitricity

[velvet root]

Because they didnt do another one yet

[fallen loom]

Zubat

[grave jolt]

Volcanion was specifically created for the gimmic of being the first water/fire type

[outer matrix]

we need more fire/water types

[velvet root]

Regional camerupt

[fallen loom]

I hate how 3DS games made Volcanion pink too

[full bison]

Hotspring theme!

[velvet root]

Whats wrong with pink shinys

[grave jolt]

A camerupt from a region based on yellowstone national park

[fallen loom]

not talking about the shiny

[velvet root]

Just rememberd that our regional Camerupt is Fire/Water

Its red in the fanes

Games*

[fallen loom]

best regional form of a Pokémon that exists?

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/volcanion-anime-pokemon-hydro-pump-water-blast-gif-2074507674886832204

[full bison]

I swear the more I look at Volcanion, the less I actually care for it

Those tube arm things annoy me

[fallen loom]

it's pink in the 3DS games

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-hisuian-snow-pokemon-legends-arceus-anipoke-zoroark-gif-25904390

[velvet root]

Brother
That color is called red

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-falling-magearna-pokemon-clutz-gif-12816900

[fallen loom]

the movie colour is a cooler, darker red though and not that lame pink-ish one from 3DS games we had to look at until some event

[velvet root]

He may be not as red as in the movies
But thats red

[outer matrix]

shiny volcanion looks a bit distracting

[velvet root]

We all know the 3ds models had a saturation problem

[fallen loom]

SV the first games to get it right

[velvet root]

But still nowere near pink

Cuz they fixed the saturation problem there

[fallen loom]

the saturation problem made it lame

[grave jolt]

that's the same color

[velvet root]

Its always lame
Tell me one human being giving a fuck about it

[grave jolt]

actually, I think the XY model is more red

[tender plank]

big ass lemon

[fallen loom]

it's darker!

[full bison]

I at least appreciate the 3DS games for finally portraying Porygon-Z as the glitchy boy he was always meant to be

[grave jolt]

I have my own preferred legend I want in IF

https://tenor.com/view/zygarde-perfect-zygarde-zygarde-perfect-pokemon-pokemon-xy-gif-6971736008687605923

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-go-porygon-z-gif-15023322

[outer matrix]

toothpaste

[velvet root]

When you trigger pz

[full bison]

Best 3D Pokemon animation ever and I won't hear otherwise

[velvet root]

That shiny is fine

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/zygarde-power-pokemon-scream-transform-gif-17351477

[fallen loom]

I like dog form the most

[grave jolt]

the dog form is the best

[fallen loom]

dog form also looks like a certain alien from Ben 10

[grave jolt]

shame it's attatched to the snake /j

[velvet root]

I saw someone making forms for every 5-10 % there was stuff like a Triceratops or dimetrodon too

[glass patio]

doggo

[full bison]

Getting a legendary "Trio" this update would be interesting. and I have Trio in quotations cause neither of them would take up only 3 slots

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/zygarde-pokemon-gif-10443663548560677212

friendly reminder

ZYGARDE CAN FUCKING

FLY

[velvet root]

As can most legendary Pokemon

[fallen loom]

Zygarde complete looks dumb with the cape

[dusty arrow]

[𝐄𝐗𝐓𝐑𝐄𝐌𝐄𝐋𝐘 𝐋𝐎𝐔𝐃 𝐈𝐍𝐂𝐎𝐑𝐑𝐄𝐂𝐓 𝐁𝐔𝐙𝐙𝐄𝐑]

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-zygarde-gif-11033852

[velvet root]

You say something positiv about a Pokemon today too?

[fallen loom]

I said I like dog form Zygarde

[velvet root]

Fair

[fallen loom]

maybe pay more attention to when I say stuff like that

[full bison]

I like Zygarde complete overall...

that being said...

did they need to add those extra long hexagons to it's knees above 2 regular ones?

[fallen loom]

complete has snake face as torso, but no doggo form features

[grave jolt]

least favorite zygarde form is 50%

[velvet root]

What if the cape is from dog

[fallen loom]

it was more of a scarf

[velvet root]

Its basically the leash but thicker and duplicated

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/zygarde-pokemon-running-gif-17351474

[fallen loom]

I don't see it

[grave jolt]

the cape feels more like banners in the wind tbh

[fallen loom]

also complete has a tail, which is obscured by the cape

it has the snake head and tail, but no dog parts

oh and the cape is from the snake too

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemo-poekmon-masters-pokemon-masters-serena-gif-25126997

Oh I so want that outfit if we get snake boy

[velvet root]

Those just made it cooler

[fallen loom]

so the leash was meant to latch onto someone

[grave jolt]

too omnitrix-like

[grave jolt]

's a dog alright

[full bison]

I have no idea who decided to have the cape things have mouths but I'm not complaining personally

[fallen loom]

only Scovillain has the same BST as 10% Zygarde

[inland jewel]

i mean I love alomomola, considering it has a good presence in ScarletViolet OU metagame

[fallen loom]

it can also open the snake mouth for a disco

[inland jewel]

they definitely gave it some love

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-lana-alomona-gif-7347037

[inland jewel]

used them in my BW run and, a romhack, SV run, and a USUM Water Mono

definitely goated mon

[full bison]

I still have no clue why people are voting for Luvdisc over Alomomola in terms of the heart fish

[inland jewel]

sadly its a bottom 5 mon via popularity from this server

[fallen loom]

me either

[inland jewel]

because Luvdisc offers another way to farm heart scales, and can be used in valentine fusions

while Alomomola is a big fish which can be used in battles

[fallen loom]

but Alomomola could also give Heart Scales

[full bison]

Alomomola is the exact same thing as Luvdisc designwise but with more interesting things to it's design and usable stats

[inland jewel]

so Spriters love Luvdisc, only Showdowners like Alom

[full bison]

Alomo can be used for Valentines fusions too

anything Luvdisc can do, most of it Alomomola can do better

[fallen loom]

yes

[thorny ferry]

I personally like luvdisc just a bit more than alom because it's great for beginner spriters

[inland jewel]

in official games, it doesn't

[fallen loom]

I feel like they need to be added in together though

Luvdisc for Heart Scales and Alomomola for battling

[inland jewel]

If Alomomola just wasn't a gen 5 pokemon then it most definitely would have been bundled with Luvdisc

[grave jolt]

Make Alomomola evolve from luvdisc like it always should've been...

[inland jewel]

The dev ain't gonna do that

since they like being as close to the games as possible

[grave jolt]

a person can dream

[fallen loom]

gen 5 and its allergy to cross-generational evolutions that spread until late Gen 8 (and Sylveon, but excluding any regional forms with evos)

[inland jewel]

nah whats stopping it is, since Luvdisc was introduced as standalone, the only thing it could get is an evo

Alomomola would be a perfect Evo. But because Gen 5's entire thing is. "New dex, no old pokemon" they could not bundle the two as Luvdisc's evo

[full bison]

Imagine Gamefreak pulls a Chingling with Luvdisc and gives it a prevo

[inland jewel]

so now the two are to stay seperate UNLESS they introduce a middle stage.

but looking at Luvdisc and Alom's stats. It would be a pretty bad Middle stage

[hot hamlet]

Alomomola is a victim of being a regional variant about 3 gens too early. Like Boufallant… and to a lesser extent Sawk and Throh to the Hitmon duo (before they got a joint evo line)

[fallen loom]

330 BST -> 470 BST is kind of right for an evolution with no middle stage

[inland jewel]

it would be, but due to how they released them, they have to introduce a middle evo to connect them at this point

[hollow creek]

TRUE

Alomomalo did worse than luvidisc in the public vote tho

[dusty arrow]

the problem with giving an alomomola evo is like

[fallen loom]

or have Luvdisc evolve to a regional version of Alomomola

[dusty arrow]

imagine eviolite alomomola

[inland jewel]

Alom would still be the final stage, its getting a Prevo so Luvdisc to Alom pipeline is real

[hollow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/alomomola-heart-fish-remoraid-gray-fish-sun-fish-gif-8456669168115022601

PEAK.

[inland jewel]

but i do hope Alom gets chosen to be part of the 13 to 500

[proud lion]

I hope the gitlab issues are fixed soon

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/luvdisc-sharpedo-pokémon-shoal-fish-shoal-gif-14108219723793719945

[spice sage]

Ngl, I might if I add both of them

[hollow creek]

Alomamola is a troll pick that is at least somewhat interesting, FROG

[proud lion]

What about monki supremacy?

[inland jewel]

No Frogman, you can't keep showing up to prove me wrong 😭

[hollow creek]

Everyone knows castform will be the troll pick

[fallen loom]

please frog add in Binacle line!

[proud lion]

Sharp Claw Mon viability

[dusty arrow]

add ice type magikarp

[spice sage]

Alomomola wouldn't really be a troll pick imo

[full bison]

Frog makes their presence known and the begging starts immediately lol

[grave jolt]

Announcing luvdisc -> Alomomola as a single pick would be incredibly funny since both are the bottom of the list

[outer matrix]

am I the only person who made a castform fusion?

[hollow creek]

I wouldve thought so just because it got so low in the main votes but interesting to know

[inland jewel]

Alom has great stats for a body mon, plus pretty good abilities, it unfortunately means it has to be a body fusion due to it's stats... and the body of alom is sort of....

[spice sage]

As is tradition

[fallen loom]

bottom of vote lists are way more likely to get in than anything in the middle sadly

[dusty arrow]

frog it would be so funny if you added ice type magikarp

[inland jewel]

and its track record in showdown/comp is proven due to its OU usage in SV

[grave jolt]

nah, ice type Feebas is the way to go

[proud lion]

Add the fireflies for the funny

[inland jewel]

the only troll would be if Frogman made Luvdsic evolve into Alom

[full bison]

All I want is UBs, but I understand if they won't be added this update

[hot hamlet]

Ice type Magikarp will be the first thing added once we get all the official mons since then the only way to add more is add meme mons

[inland jewel]

like, he just makes Alom unaccessible, only for peopel to find out their luvdisc is evolving due to they forgot to remove the heartscale

[fallen loom]

triple fusions of Luvdisc, Alomomola and Bruxish

[full bison]

that's like 11 slots

[spice sage]

Why do you guys assume there will be a troll pick

[hot hamlet]

Past experiences

[inland jewel]

past precedent

[dusty arrow]

what meme

[hollow creek]

Just cuz

[outer matrix]

what number could a joke addition end at?

[hot hamlet]

You made it a meme

[dusty arrow]

its not a meme cuz its a real pokemon

[fallen loom]

569, 666, 669

[hot hamlet]

696

[full bison]

721

[fallen loom]

720

[grave jolt]

499, since it gurentees a single stage pokemon

[full bison]

721 is reserved for Simisear

[fallen loom]

721 is Gen 6 max number though

[hollow creek]

Frog if you're still here do you have any updates on the gitlab situation? Just curious

[hot hamlet]

Btw I’ve been off for the weekend. Has the problem been fixed yet?

[full bison]

Exactly

[grave jolt]

Frog's gone

[fallen loom]

but we have up to gen 7

[hot hamlet]

Then let the anarchy begin

[full bison]

that's how low it was rated in a gen 6 popularity poll

[hollow creek]

Im not gonna ping because he probably gets pinged 2 trillion times per day

[inland jewel]

we got until the end of USUM's dex my guy

[hot hamlet]

Technically Let’s Go’s Dex since that is the end of Gen 7

[fallen loom]

yikes, imagine being a part of the 88 Pokémon that get in AFTER the monkies

[spice sage]

The support ticket with gitlab has been escalated to a different team and I'm still waiting for a reply

[full bison]

Probably the Gen 5 starters at this rate

[fallen loom]

I'm guessing a load of mythicals and Pokémon that wouldn't make interesting fusions

[grave jolt]

hopes and prayrs this is fixed soon 🙏

[hot hamlet]

Partially good news then. If it was escalated that means they may have isolated the issue and sent it to experts

[full bison]

we can only hope

[inland jewel]

Ask the Github team their favorite pokemon

no reason

[hot hamlet]

Yeah they deserve a pick for fixing it

[hollow creek]

Ok so its getting resolved slowly but surely, good to know

[spice sage]

We'll see. Tbh I'm also looking at what other free options we have other than gitlab

[grave jolt]

IF feebass is slowly killing my soul

[full bison]

Alright I gotta ask, would the UBs all be a package deal, or all individually added?

[spice sage]

The sprites repo technically still exists. Paya, kiwi and thorns still have access, it's just my account that was locked for some reason so I'm at least a little bit hopeful that it wasn't because we were breaking the terms of service or something like that

[grave jolt]

UBs should def be all at once if at all

[spice sage]

But I was also the only one with admin rights (which was stupid in retrospect lol)

[hot hamlet]

Tbh September is becoming the point of bad gaming for me. Star Wars? Progression bugs (post-patch, now completion progression bugs!)
Funko Fusion? Delayed delivery. Once got? Rushed. Just got a second hot fix today, feels like it needs more
PIF? Gitlab.
🤦‍♂️

[fallen loom]

Epic Mickey remake? Releases in stupid California time instead of at actually midnight

[hollow creek]

Interesting

[full bison]

Ubisoft gonna Ubisoft

[outer matrix]

at least the problem is getting resolved

[grave jolt]

Fingers crossed. For now, everyone should be downloading the sprite packs.

[frank oxide]

hoping for slurpuff

[hot hamlet]

Oh yeah. Miles Edgeworth. Framerate issues in the latter half

[spice sage]

Not really so far but here's hoping hahah

[frank oxide]

then i can finally live in peace

[fallen loom]

then I can finally ripperino

[hollow creek]

Think they're in the "figuring out what the problem even is" phase

[hot hamlet]

And in my spare time, I lost two soldiers each in 3 consecutive missions in XCOM (first Playthrough, got on Summer Sale)

[fallen loom]

bad things to happen this month:
PC too old to play game I pre-ordered. Got a refund, but only refunded the main game... so now if I re-buy it from Steam I have to buyy al the DLC AGAIN just to get pre-order stuff!

[frank oxide]

whats the game

[fallen loom]

Sparking Zero

[frank oxide]

dont know that

[full bison]

I had my chair break and injure me and I had to go buy a new one if we're going on about gaming related misery

[hot hamlet]

Yeah I’m waiting to get that on sale myself

Not a fighting game fan but it looks fun

[frank oxide]

i'll stick to my ULTRAKILL

[full bison]

nothing too serious but it hurt for a while after

[hot hamlet]

Still broken up about that latest death though. Have 2 soldiers: a Colonel and a Major. Thanks to RNG, they’re a father-son duo since they share the same last name and nationality.
Best sniper got mind controlled and excecuted the father right in front of the son’s eyes. He got the revenge shot on the controller, but still…

[bitter comet]

Man, imagine if Frog gives us the monkeys as an apology for the delay

[proud lion]

As long as they are 501-507

[brave torrent]

What monkeys are we taking about?

[brave torrent]

Aaah

Simipour and Simisage are cool

But the iffy thing is that they have similar models

[silent acorn]

Not that bad

Atleast simipour and Simisage have pants and shirt

[sinful smelt]

also, could someone explain in lay terms (I'm an idiot) as to what happened to the gitlab or whatever, that sprites don't work, that Forgman is resolving?

[silent acorn]

Simisear is the sucky one

[silent acorn]

Imploded

The Nintendo nation attacked

[sinful smelt]

copyrights? 😮

[silent acorn]

One guy who wanted luvdisc started a war

[silent acorn]

^

One guy got mad luvdisc wasn't in

[sinful smelt]

fr tho

[silent acorn]

Do you underestimate what Luvdisc fans are capable of?

[molten loom]

No idea what happened

[silent acorn]

Fr

No one knows

Only that gitlab got it down

[sinful smelt]

anyway, this means that repository of sprites in "cloud" is down, and downloading sprites during the game was not an option?

[silent acorn]

It is

Since you can get them at fusion dex I think

Or at Spritework

[paper merlin]

It’s likely for the same reason the Aegide Calc was taken down unfortunately

[silent acorn]

Why was it taken down btw

[paper merlin]

Too many requests for sprites

[silent acorn]

Aaaaaah

Ah

Ah goddamn sheeple

[proud lion]

I’m fine with most mons, I ain’t too picky. Only some that I prefer much farther in the future (like Luvdisc)

[silent acorn]

There was someone who once was asking for pelipper and never again wrote on this

And they want it for a "friend"

[silent acorn]

Too bad for you, Froggo says he wants to give us all some luv

[paper merlin]

I don’t even know what mons I want the most

[silent acorn]

I kinda know which reminds me

I have to rebuild now that some are in

[hot hamlet]

🤦‍♂️That’s what I wanted to ask Frog. An exact response. Given the ticket got escalated they should have notified him of what the problem was diagnosed before moving it up to a team that would look into that specific issue

[paper merlin]

That reminds me, when can we even use the new mons?

[proud lion]

Even if it’s a zero rating for me on the polls, I would still sprite it for head and body.

[hot hamlet]

Come update

[paper merlin]

Checks out yeah

I’d like to see the newer evolutions added like Ursaluna, Overqwil, Kleavor etc. Those are definitely some of the top ones for me

[outer matrix]

they can't be added in unfortunately

[brave torrent]

Yeah, not possible

[paper merlin]

Can they not? Why?

[proud lion]

Engine limitations

Gen 8 and 9 would need a coding overhaul

[brave torrent]

Cause they weren't in any game before the 8th gen

[proud lion]

You can technically add them but as alts.

[paper merlin]

??? I’m confused as to why that’s an issue?

[brave torrent]

What I've been told, the way pokemons are added is that they are ripped out of games and fully functional in IF after being placed there

[proud lion]

The game uses a unique code that easily adds Pokémon from Gen 1-7

[brave torrent]

Biut gen 8+ mons can't be "ripped" so they need to be added manually

[paper merlin]

All I really know about the engine limitations were that we weren’t getting more mons at all because it was at its limit

[paper merlin]

Ahh, that’s pretty clever

[brave torrent]

And the last tume Toad tried to manually add a mon from the gen8+ game, the completely broke the rest of the game

[proud lion]

Not me Toad, the other one

[brave torrent]

Indeed

[paper merlin]

Ah gotcha, confused me for a sec

[proud lion]

I’m a spriter, not a coder

[brave torrent]

I swear to God I meant Frog

[paper merlin]

So like. Is it gen 8-9 mons that can’t, or just gen 9?

[brave torrent]

I haven't even looked at your name so that didn't confused me either

[proud lion]

The former

[paper merlin]

Shame

It using gen 7 means that Alolan forms are on the table though, correct?

[proud lion]

I think they would just be alts in this case

[brave torrent]

That's the fun part

[paper merlin]

Shame… no Galvanize shenanigans

[inland jewel]

Something Flagged Gitlab so they locked Frogman's account as a precaution.
As such nothing can access it.

Frogman reached out to support who sent the issue to a specialist.
So far no reply.

Based on what I've seen of Frogman discussing it earlier

[sinful smelt]

Thanks for explaining 🤗

[inland jewel]

So far (Based on the Lycanroc debuckle) Forms look super similar to their counterparts, so differentiating them in fusion guessing games would make it impossible

therefore they won't be included

Np

[paper merlin]

Gotcha

I’m a little disappointed but it’s understandable. And this game has so much already

[final sand]

why cant they just make it one lycanroc form

[final sand]

then make lycanroc dusk a "regional variant", give it the dark typing and a bunch of other stuff to make them different and then everyone is happy

no gross orange lycanroc tho

[inland jewel]

Dev's exact words: They look too similar, not gonna add Dusk form Lycanroc

[final sand]

awww

[inland jewel]

But we got Midday and Middnight

so best we got

[outer matrix]

as much as I like regional forms, they are likely to be added once every single base pokemon gets added in (up to Gen 7 of course)

[inland jewel]

we got midnight,

[weak trellis]

the main changes are "tough claws", "2 points in speed/attack", and "was ash's pokemon in the anime" which I agree aren't enough to justify a third form being added lol

[inland jewel]

the debuckle is we don't have Dusk-form

and like, Duskform is just better midday lycanroc

with tough claws, and better stats

[final sand]

dusk is so much cooler than weird orange thing

[inland jewel]

This is dusk form

you must mean Midnight form Lycanroc

This is midnight-form

[final sand]

that is what i meant yes

my fault

[inland jewel]

yeah

Midnight is in the game

[final sand]

i fucking hate these names bro

[inland jewel]

Its pretty easy to remember

Midday and Midnight are opposites

Dusk form exists, but there is no Dawn form

thats how people remember them

[silent acorn]

Done damn it took me 40 minutes?

Brand new fresh List!

[bitter comet]

Based list

[silent acorn]

Now disclaimer, since we don't know how Wishiwashi and Castform will operate nor Darminatan I put them at their respective middle spots, once we know how they would work I would rise them up higher

[silent acorn]

Thank you very much

[spice sage]

I never tried to add any gen 8 mon xd ||and I never intend to ||

[silent acorn]

The FROGGO HAS SPOKEN PEOPLE, HIS WORDS ARE SACRED

[silent acorn]

Froggy by the way I wanna clarify something that me and Taraline were discussing the other day?

Can you help us?

It's about whether how Castform forms would operate, are they based on the ability or would they switch and stay changed according to the weather they changed to? Like how Meloetta stays in her other form upon using Ruin Song?

Or does it only happen in battle? And if so, does only the typying change or does it switch between sprites?

[alpine rune]

Whoa hey, I don't stand for the tropius and chatot slander like that

[silent acorn]

Man

Tropius is not on issues

Do you want it to be on issues?

Actually chatot is hahaha

Maybe I should move it since I like parakeets, maybe to think lemme fix that

[alpine rune]

I think they fit right in the "Inspiration" category

[silent acorn]

there we go fixed~ all happy now~

[alpine rune]

Ig tropius needed some seasoning but like it's not bland at least

[silent acorn]

Yeah... Nah

[hot hamlet]

Meant to ask. When they escalated the ticket, they should have mentioned whether they found the underlying cause or not (based on time spent with other tech supports). Did they say anything?

[alpine rune]

Chatot is definitely unique, Meloetta is a proven scale that people likes to make music reference

[hot hamlet]

Just curious what caused the hiccup to begin with

[hot hamlet]

Imagine if Chatot got in and allowed for voice recording a la Gen 4 Chatter

[alpine rune]

Actually wouldn't be a problem cuz there's no VC and no built in Online Multiplayer

[silent acorn]

Uh hu... See the thing is...

I had faith in Meloetta

I have no faith in chatot

[alpine rune]

Any video that has sensitive elements would get the user banned anyways

[hot hamlet]

I didn’t say it was a bad thing, just imagine if we got it in like that

[alpine rune]

Would be cool

I want to use Guzzlord scream

[coral axle]

Imagine that with hyper voice

[alpine rune]

Boomburst:

[hot hamlet]

Tom Quagsire

[silent acorn]

Another negative point to it

[twin phoenix]

Where's Medicham?

[silent acorn]

That and the fact it's mostly a birdo

[coral axle]

Whenever I use hyper voice in this game I crack up

[silent acorn]

And about one of the smallest birdos

[silent acorn]

Safe and where it should be

[silent acorn]

Touch it Palkia

[twin phoenix]

Never mind, I found it.

Good, I like these placements.

[silent acorn]

TOUCH IT PALKIA

[twin phoenix]

Mmmmm...

[silent acorn]

Jaja I wanted to pull a meme off

Yes?

[bitter comet]

Anyone know whether or not frog is joking about the last part?

[final sand]

i really want cincino or whatever its name is

white scarf mouse

please

[silent acorn]

He said it almost broke apart last time it happened

Like he had to piece together his pc with gum

[bitter comet]

Well, that’s terrifying

[silent acorn]

To be fair

[twin phoenix]

I only want the Spheal line as much as I want the Beautifly line: only for the named mons and meh with the rest.

[silent acorn]

It's a lot of files

[silent acorn]

I am sorry I can't... They are so bad...

[twin phoenix]

It's unfortunate that I find the others to be filler, but it is what it is.

[silent acorn]

It's like the price of 5 things

We could cram lilligant and Gothitelle on those 5 slots

[twin phoenix]

Yeah. 😦

[thorny ferry]

turtonator doesn't deserve to be there

I demand justice for the nator

[twin phoenix]

Ngl the design goes hard but it's not my kind of design. Now seeing Swanna there.. that brings sadness.

Ballet fusions that aren't just Kirlia!

More wings and feathers! A pleasant shade of blue! Unique wings with curves!

[silent acorn]

Know what's funny is that there is no reason for Dustox to exists

It's literally the least powered of all the moths

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/warriors-curry-salty-salt-bae-gif-9632449

And cope

[twin phoenix]

I wasn't a fan until I saw my friend's shiny Dustox. It is friends with my shiny Ledian.

[thorny ferry]

this is preposterous

I will now make turtonator sprites out of copium

[silent acorn]

By it needs some Seasoning it means it needs to show off more

Literally only intentional "Trashy category" is black

And you have to make a real effort to end up there

[twin phoenix]

Yeah, I'll add more decorations if that's what is needed.

[twin phoenix]

Like what I did with Gothitelle.

[thorny ferry]

there is no doubt that the need to prove others wrong is what fuels human creativity the most

[spice sage]

Your request has been escalated to our Trust and Safety team to review.

We will provide you with more information once we have received an update on your request. In the meantime, this ticket will be placed On-hold.

THis is all I have lol

[hot hamlet]

That sucks. Normally they say “we identified your problem and are sending it to [insert team name] to address it”

[grave jolt]

😟

[hot hamlet]

Methinks you either got hacked, or there was a large spike of activity that seemed sus

If it went to Trust and Safety

which just sounds like a security issue

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-pikachu-cute-sad-gif-21895093

[thorny ferry]

nevermind I can't think of a fusion

ig hound was right

[silent acorn]

You can't never take that back

[thorny ferry]

and I won't try to

I accept defeat

[silent acorn]

To be honest it's not impossible to make something cool with turtonator

Just very hard

[glass patio]

[spice sage]

Yeah could be

[glass patio]

btw i love those tier names

[civic harness]

Why issues?

[hot hamlet]

Btw, I agree 99% with this list. Only point I have contention with is Pumpkaboo should be a tier above, but I’ll accept its current place.

[proud lion]

Praying that the issue gets resolved quickly and especially if it's not the former reason

[buoyant grail]

is snivy in yet? :(

[proud lion]

Sadly no

[silent acorn]

I have no problem placing higher actually

[silent acorn]

When someone tells me they want something because it's goofy I think it's goofy to put it on the black tier

[civic harness]

You think that I want Crabominable because is goofy?

[silent acorn]

I take people having this unanimous vote in favor of tropius as issue, but I didn't place it there. Basculin though... Plusle and Minun?

[silent acorn]

I have heard it about 35 times

Atleast

[civic harness]

When?

[silent acorn]

Yeah I dunno rick

[civic harness]

I was talking about me

[outer matrix]

Crabominable

[civic harness]

Thanks for the support

[outer matrix]

The only sprite I can think of making for it would be fused with machoke to make a monsters inc reference

[civic harness]

Oh shoot

[outer matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-gif-5781047285940759457

[silent acorn]

Man you can like it

I just think it has issues

A LOT OF ISSUES

The mon not you

[noble widget]

Should we add Lunala and Solgaleo

[civic harness]

I understand, your opinion

[noble widget]

I mean we already have Necrozma

[silent acorn]

Anyway

Crabbos are still good for me

I just... I dunno man I pass on yeti crab

Crawdaunt and Clawitzer are good runner ups

[outer matrix]

I'm neutral on crabombible

[civic harness]

Bad design or bad evolution for Crabrawler? That usually what people say

[silent acorn]

I am Just eh

[silent acorn]

To me bad evolution

Wish it had kept more busted up brawler motif

like just look serious man, please!!!

[next flare]

The breaking of the game was from the update from gen 5 to gen 7, right?

[silent acorn]

I dunno man, Crabominable doesn't feel fighting type to me, and even if it did it'll feel like drunk Brawler fighter type

[civic harness]

Ok, well yes, Crabrawler could have perfectly an normal way to evolve, probably into a pure Fighting type

[silent acorn]

Could have been the same yeti, just this type of yeti

I love corphish

Little guy fights like there is no tomorrow

It does not fear the frying butter

[outer matrix]

It should've been like this bc of the dex entries I think

[paper merlin]

Question for Gren. Is Protean gen 6-8 or gen 9?

[silent acorn]

I would think 6 no?

[paper merlin]

I know Kecleon is in the game I just don't care enough to check

[paper merlin]

What I assumed but wanna know anyway

[silent acorn]

Yeah around 6 to 7

[civic harness]

Well, Crabominable represents how an specie can have an radical chance when the habitat is different

And I love that concept

THE FROG IS HERE

[spice sage]

Yeah, when coding some of the moves and abilities iirc

[outer matrix]

It would be cool to redesign some pokemon if they were to get added to the game (like castform for example)

[quaint matrix]

Not me getting hit online with the "Nah Unova bugs are mid the real heat is in Paldea"

[paper merlin]

Unova Bugs are based what

[quaint matrix]

I know people love and wanna rep Paldea but come on man

[paper merlin]

Paldea bugs are good too but like

[quaint matrix]

It ain't even close

[paper merlin]

Durant? Volcarona? Scolipede?

Really?

[quaint matrix]

Also they listed Slither Wing as one of the Paldean bugs

My friend in Christ I have some terrible news about what Slither Wing really is...

[paper merlin]

Genesect, Escavalier, Galvantula

The only unova bug type I'm not massive on is Leavanny

and it's not bad imo

[quaint matrix]

Leavanny is the worst of the best

Which still means it clears 80% of non Unovan bugs lol

[paper merlin]

this one is way too funny

[grave jolt]

Unova bugs are the best of the bug types

And Leavanny is the best Unovan bug imo

https://tenor.com/view/leavanny-pokemon-bug-grass-hello-gif-18653110

[quaint matrix]

Yeah Leavanny has a lot of strengths

It's just aesthetically the cutest/best looking final evo Bug

But pretty much every Unovan Bugs are firing on all cylinders

[molten latch]

Not just Bug Types in general

Also Grass Type

https://tenor.com/view/bananabreadbutter-lilligant-petilil-lilligant-infestation-blink-182-gif-9559589496548305903

[quaint matrix]

How could I forget

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/maractus-dancing-happy-gif-14508931

[quaint matrix]

As my bias is Grass type I'm eating so good in Unova

[molten latch]

Indeed

[quaint matrix]

Maybe the one bad part about Unovan Grass is that they're a little too leaning into Mono Grass

[molten latch]

Odd that Cacnea didn't evolved into Maractus

[quaint matrix]

Yeah Maractus would've totally worked out as a Bellossom for the Cacnea line

[molten latch]

Indeed

[quaint matrix]

Sadly it was Unova where they rebooted everything (for the better though)

[molten latch]

And true

[quaint matrix]

It was a little slightly worse too when it was stopping at Gen V when Cottonee line wasn't Grass/Fairy

[molten latch]

Huh

[outer matrix]

But fairy type didn't exist until Gen 6

[grave jolt]

god we really need thosse gen 5 remakes

[full bison]

No

[molten latch]

Yeah, Imagine gamefreak makes new pokemon that are missing links to the evolutions

[full bison]

Gen 5 remakes?

After BDSP?

heck no

[molten latch]

Alomola for example

[full bison]

After BDSP I never wanna see another Pokemon remake ever again

[molten latch]

True

So sad Black 2 and White 2 were the remakes.

Even tho its just an aligned continuity.

Tho atleast Gen 6 is coming to nintendo switch

(Legends: Z-A I mean.)

[full bison]

I wanted a Legends Unova game more than anything, but that may or may not be happening now

So much potential there

[molten latch]

True

[full bison]

Relic Castle and Abyssal Ruins in their prime, Original Dragon and the brother kings, maybe a variant of Hydreigon before it was hunted into becoming aggressive...

[molten latch]

And maybe this?

Atleast Luvdisc, Cacnea and others gets some missing evos.

[weak trellis]

I mean imo after the backlash a lot of gen 4's cross-region evos got at the time I can't blame them for not wanting to do that again (outside of sylveon and mega evolutions) until Legends

[full bison]

what backlash did the Gen 4 evos get? They're for the most part praised to this day

[outer matrix]

Weren't there also cross-gen evos in gen 8 with the regional forms?

[weak trellis]

I'm thinking of the ones that got mocked a lot like rhyperior, ambipom, probopass and to an extent dusknoir, and electrivire were the main targets I saw back in the day

and also them wanting to establish unova's pokedex as its own thing with no ties to the previous dexes (until postgame of course)

[weak trellis]

some were but some weren't like with ursaluna and wyrdeer

[bitter comet]

Eh I feel like we’ll just have to wait like 20 years and then it will be released

At least it’s not gonna be 100 years

[weak trellis]

also after BDSP and OR/AS I can understand the "let them rest in peace" mentality with the older games

[full bison]

I liked ORAS

I just hated the way they treated the Battle Frontier

[weak trellis]

except for kanto because you know TCP will never pass up an excuse to shove more kanto at us in any context

[bitter comet]

I think those were like my first Pokémon games or something lol

[full bison]

Competitive battling has been made more accessible than ever, I feel like we're overdue for the return of the Battle Frontier

[weak trellis]

or a doubles-only game since we've had basically 3-4 gens of building up doubles-only mechanics

[quaint matrix]

Yeah I think at this point no one serious in the Pokemon fandom thinks this way anymore though

I think especially cuz back then evolving was the only way to make bad Pokemons good

[weak trellis]

hence the "at the time" comment

[quaint matrix]

But now comparatively when everything was either locked to region gimmicks (Mega, Giganta, regionals)

Yeah everyone just wants evo at this point

GameFreak moved too slow bro

In an ideal world we'd have a near complete Eeveelutions type chart

[coral axle]

Only pokemon I’m really really gonna miss besides some others (dachsbun and skeledirge) is the potential of farigiraf

[quaint matrix]

Criminal that the last time we got one was literally almost 11 years ago by god

That's literally a decade ago we got a whiff of Eeveelutions and then never again

[quaint matrix]

I mean losing out on Annihilape and Kingambit also sucks lol

[quaint matrix]

GameFreak: "What do you mean you don't want Kanto you all love Charizard and the Poison-spam that was Gen 1 right"

"What was that you want an actual evo for Farfetch'd? Sorry best we can do is a Galarian-exclusive evo take it or leave it"

[weak trellis]

I know what we all disagree but I wouldn't doubt that GF counts partner eevee and gigantamax eevee as their eevee quota for that gen lol

[coral axle]

I agree I just adore farigiraf’s design and potential

[prime dust]

they cooked with farigiraf and then...i'm not sure what happened with dundunsparce

i kind of feel like they just went the meme route as a gag and no one argued against it

and by the time they realized the joke went too far, it was too late

[grave jolt]

jesus, over a decade

felt my bones turning to dust

[grave jolt]

I'm not complaining, dudunsparce was one of like 3 regional evos I liked

[weak trellis]

makes sense since dunsparce's inspiration is a joke to begin with

[quaint matrix]

Should've been Dunseraph @ me

[weak trellis]

so continuing to go full dumb and keeping pure normal is probably more accurate than the 550+ BST /dragon everyone in the west wanted out of it

[quaint matrix]

It just feels like a waste of a spot if the whole idea is just to continue the bit imo

Like if he's a joke/troll design it doesn't need to evolve

Same way I don't need Spinda to evolve because what the hell are you gonna do with that anyway

[weak trellis]

yea but evolving it is even more troll to those that assumed otherwise

[quaint matrix]

Ehhhhhhhhhh

[weak trellis]

that's the nice part: if you're upset, then the joke worked and there's little you can do about it

[inland jewel]

thats the thing though

[weak trellis]

nose has been flicked, make your indignant face, we all move on

[inland jewel]

they were super upset and tired from everyone asking for dunsparse to evolve

[grave jolt]

Dunsparce's inspiration is mythology.

[inland jewel]

so they just did it to get people off their back

[quaint matrix]

I mean this is giving the same energy as "Oh you can't be offended at me saying these bigoted things it was just dark humor bro imagine getting baited by my dark humor"

[inland jewel]

the outrage is like wine to them

[quaint matrix]

Yeah we all know it's continuing the trolling/bit

[weak trellis]

it is the same energy just the joke isn't dark lol

[quaint matrix]

Oh no yeah it's not like that kinda stuff

[grave jolt]

should've become a normal/dragon Pseudolegendary with the same moveset as mew smh

[quaint matrix]

I will say tho

[weak trellis]

imo I'm fine with where it ended up but I'll also say it's not exactly memorable either

[quaint matrix]

Dunsparce being an adapatation of a Tsuchinoko as a Pokemon is like

That's the best way to adapt it imo

Just a flat dumb fat nubby snake

Exactly like Tsuchinoko itself

But I mean they could also do it again is what I'm saying

Sneasel line isn't the only time they tried doing Kamaitachi (at least iirc)

[grave jolt]

dududunsparce

[inland jewel]

dudundunsparse

[quaint matrix]

NO NOT DUNSPARCE AGAIN

[grave jolt]

a dunsparce with a random number of sections over 4

[inland jewel]

its 5-segments

and then the rare chance of 6 segments

[full bison]

If you need to explain the joke, it's not funny

[sturdy whale]

flagreon Mega like or dislike

[hot hamlet]

So… I looked up the Gitlab side of things. Trust and Safety team is their security team and they focus on abuse reports. Which makes me think one of three things happened:

• Report spamming against the page’s account, possibly under “Malicious Content” or “Copyright Abuse”
• Account got hacked and turned into a crypto page (happened before in my circle of entertainment, triggers “Crypto Account” in the abuse categories)
• Nintendo DMCA (lowest possibility as they claim they would have removed the account instantly with no warning and responded with “DMCA’d” when Frog asked “what gives?”)

[white meadow]

Damn that sucks

[velvet root]

I really hope they get it fixed soon
I want a reveal

[hot hamlet]

I just want to play again. I don’t have the memory space for the full download

[grave jolt]

It's not archenover yet bois

[alpine rune]

Guys i think we knew whats going to come next

[grave jolt]

Every time I see that list I wanna look at it so I can see where my favorites ranked

[wide merlin]

where is lumineon , mienshao on the list ?

[hot hamlet]

Frog only shared top and bottom 5. We don't know

[wide merlin]

if we don't count komo-o , we have two on the 15 pokemon, avec with the salazzle, excadrill et vikavolt , we have9/15 pokemon in the logic

[alpine rune]

ngl same

[wide merlin]

now , found the 6 missing in the list

[twin phoenix]

Where's the bottom 5?

[velvet root]

I dont think we get slot 3-5 from that list

[eager jungle]

[finite reef]

What were the bottom 5 evolution lines?

[eager jungle]

[trail hull]

In the pins https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1137892936915361942/1278486160125198397/SPOILER_image.png?ex=66f34185&is=66f1f005&hm=b4f7d05e4ec4c24282d6ab51fc4d9bebc2191a1d46e2f3b32a6c5cf16170013d&

Excluding my precious luvdisc ,we have exactly 6 slots

[twin phoenix]

Thank you people for not putting Gothitelle on the bottom.

[trail hull]

?

[velvet root]

Doesnt Frogman play with the thought of making Luvdisc Alomomolas preevo

[trail hull]

No?

[velvet root]

Wait

[finite reef]

Alomomola bottom 5? Competitive is saved

[velvet root]

.

[finite reef]

Eviolite Luvdisc?

[velvet root]

Yeee

[finite reef]

43/55/65 bulk with eviolite

[trail hull]

As long as I get luvdisc it’s ok

[velvet root]

Would alomomola gain anything from luvdisc moveset?

[ember bear]

nah eviolite alomomola

[lean hedge]

I would say fire psychic like girafarig

[velvet root]

What Girafarig is Fire?
Also how did you end up there

[tacit saddle]

my favorite fire type girafarig

[lean hedge]

No he is normal psychic but i mean he looks like a psychic becouse he looks like girafarig

I would think it is a fusion between girafrig and arcanine

[velvet root]

Man
That poor Chimera qwq

[lean hedge]

I mean girafrig also jas a snake tail

[velvet root]

Poor Chifernal

[lean hedge]

And he is as fluffy as arcanine

[velvet root]

Thats a lot but not a snake on girafarig

[lean hedge]

It looks like a snake how else would you call it

[velvet root]

Chainchomp idk

Btw
Main reason for His fairy type is that fairytale creatures are fairys (often)

For example impidimp or Granbull

[lean hedge]

True but charizard a dragon is also a fairytail

[velvet root]

I mean dragon got its own type

And he only is Fire/Flying cuz in gen 1 they only wanted 1 dragon

[lean hedge]

Charizard is not a dragon or a fairy

True

Hydraple is a fairy tail

[velvet root]

Yeah but he is a Wyrm aka a dragon

[lean hedge]

But girafrig is also a animal with a snake as tail thats why i say psychic

[velvet root]

Fairy type is
Good
Sweet food
Mythical (non reptilian) creatures
Light

I see your thought process

[lean hedge]

But his fur and form gives away mudsdale vibes

[velvet root]

I mean a classic Chimera is a Lion Goat with a snake as tail

Thats why he evolves from a Goat

[lean hedge]

True but that doesn´t mean its fairy weezing became fairy too

And thats not a fairytail

I would give him the second typing ground or psichic

[ember bear]

let's be real they just slap fairy to whatever they feel like

[trail hull]

WoW a mantycore fakemon

Or is it a chimera?

[velvet root]

Chimera

[trail hull]

Oh okay

[lean hedge]

and your chimera looks smart so it has a higher chance to be psychic the any other second type

[velvet root]

It just has a diffrent reason

[velvet root]

All the starters are smart

.

[lean hedge]

Dont know about that

[lean hedge]

Fuecoco looks loike a apple i dont call that smart

Or does this look like a fairy tale

[velvet root]

I meant from our region

[velvet root]

Yes
Cuz its sweet bakery

[lean hedge]

It is not always the cute and or fairy tales that become fairy type

[velvet root]

They dont
All mons have theyr reason

[velvet root]

Sweets
A literal fairy
And Cute with good heart
All 3 are fairys

[lean hedge]

Mimikyu dousn´t fit that description or do you call a cursed doll that gives you nightmares when you see it´s body cute?

[ember bear]

well

mimikyu with a good heart is kinda of a reach

it slaughters anything that sees what's beneath and is madly envious to pikachu

[lean hedge]

And xerneas is not a fairy tail and it looks okay but not really cute more elegant

[ember bear]

huh

wait what do you define as fairy tale

cause the whole thing with xerneas is that it is the tree of life

[lean hedge]

It is technicaly a deer but turns in a tree when it dies so you cant really call it a tree if he is still alive

[grave jolt]

I mean, that's just 3 cute pokemon right there.

[lean hedge]

You can link it to bambi but to call that a fairy tail is a huge stretch its just a movie

[lean hedge]

Mimkyu is cursed not cute and the doll is not even his real body

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-cute-happy-love-pokemon-gif-17464877

[civic harness]

Well, Mimikyu is an tarantula with a Pikachu costume so...

[grave jolt]

Also, something to remember is that most fairy tales were originally very dark.

Like, people died a lot in fairy tales.

[civic harness]

But of course people only think about cute things

[ember bear]

i think the term "fairy tales" is getting used in a really broad way here

[grave jolt]

Hell, the fae in a lot of the online sphere's I'm in are explicitly trickster beings who explicitly want to have fun at your expense /hj

[ember bear]

like some are just describing myths, others just talk about what seem to just be like nightime stories

like the thing that started this discourse was about the chimera, and that's more like mythology than a fairy tale

but eh idk

[velvet root]

Thats not what a mimikyu is...

[grave jolt]

Funny enough, fairy types are absolute monsters

[lean hedge]

Hoopa is a genie in a lamp thatvos a huge fairy tail recerence and it is not a fairy type so the chance that the camera is fairy is pretty low

[velvet root]

Cuz 2 other types worked better

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/giratina-pokemon-platinum-spear-pillar-hello-chat-caption-gif-5779819370613138324

The aura you gotta have to force Time AND Space to back away

[civic harness]

Meanwhile an pink dog is fairy type

[lean hedge]

Psychic works better then fairy with a fairytail genie the same can be sayed about your chimera

[short cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/eiscue-pokemon-hello-chat-penguin-float-gif-23942649

[civic harness]

And there is a reason actually

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/animated-pokemon-flower-crown-cute-gif-16716696

[velvet root]

You dont know how pokemon type distribution works right?

[velvet root]

Exactly

[lean hedge]

Same for you

[grave jolt]

Fairy type is for cute things that I like :3

Pachirisu will be Fairy type some day, I'm telling you!

[velvet root]

Bro
You serious💀

[civic harness]

Mr Mime

[ember bear]

there's already one with that type tho

[lean hedge]

Hoopa and thag chimera gives the same vibes thas why i think it feels more psychic

[grave jolt]

Mime jr is cute...

https://tenor.com/view/james-pokemon-mime-jr-team-america-gif-25098189

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/hoopa-gif-20243481

Ah yes

Same vibes

[lean hedge]

Not the unbound

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/hoppa-gif-14937145239505858483

Your onto nothing bro

[grave jolt]

Anyway, I place the Chimera as a dark/normal type

[civic harness]

Anyways, how is everything Zero?

[lean hedge]

Hoopa has his times where he is elegant you just took the bad moments on purpose

[velvet root]

Fine

[civic harness]

What did I miss?

[velvet root]

When
I saw that movie 4 times

[velvet root]

The fire/fairy starter from a region of mine (and friends) is apparantly not a fairy?

[lean hedge]

The moment he summoned all those pokemon i love it

[velvet root]

Thats has nothing to do with elegance tho

[lean hedge]

Give him some slack he litteraly has the mind of a child

[velvet root]

Also bound hoopas personality is a silly trickster while unbound is a evil trickster

[civic harness]

Why?

[velvet root]

Idk Canine says he isnt fairy

The starter in question

[lean hedge]

It looks like psychic to me

[velvet root]

Let me guess
Luxray looks like dark to you

[hollow creek]

Luv me hoopa

[civic harness]

Yes, it seems like fairy type

[velvet root]

Thx

[civic harness]

An Chimera right?

[velvet root]

Yes

[civic harness]

Yes, it could be perfectly an fairy type

[velvet root]

Thank you

The one mon I can understand when people dont agree on the type

Good old Fire/Flying boi

[civic harness]

Did you make this?

[velvet root]

Other people from the team draw
I give rough sketches, ideas and sprites

Many Pokemon there have a lot of influenz from my ideas

[civic harness]

I have also some ideas of fairy type but I never make sketches of the theme

[velvet root]

I wonder what ideas

[civic harness]

Good

[civic harness]

Really?

[hollow creek]

I have a few ideas for pokemon but am bad at drawing

[civic harness]

Classic

[hollow creek]

Ones a ghost turkey with a really long neck based on that one japaneese myth, its called gobblghoul

[lean hedge]

With smoke and dark colors i would guess dark fire

[sweet spoke]

it's funny how some people assume "hey we're gonna add this pokemon to the game" means it's already in the game

just randomly thinking of that

[lean hedge]

If i would make a fairy type it would look like the mirror from snow white fairy ghost

[sweet spoke]

spooky

[lean hedge]

Yeah i would change the mask and mirror giving them multyple styles like flabebe and furfrou

[velvet root]

Yes

[velvet root]

Thw whole idea is smoke vents and cartoon bulls blowing smoke out of the nose when mad
(Also red bull and the carmotaurus from dinosaur kings)

And yes to "fly" he throws himself on his back and releases a lit of smoke under such pressure that he gets catapulted in the air

[plucky tendon]

he's like me fr

[velvet root]

Lol

[civic harness]

Maybe I can try and draw it

[velvet root]

Nice

[compact orbit]

Zack and Wiki lookin ahh image

[woven maple]

Wonder if they're gonna delay the next announcement while they work out where to host the sprites

[compact orbit]

Definitely

Speaking of, if I manually downloaded all the sprite packs in the past, am I good to keep playing infinite fusion?

[woven maple]

Should be

[compact orbit]

Nice

[woven maple]

If it doesn't work just use the new download link

And your saved data is transferred

[lean hedge]

Better?

[compact orbit]

Huh?

I wasn’t complaining

Zack and Wiki is my second favorite game of all time

[half needle]

someone remind me of this message later i have something to send

[sinful smelt]

Kind reminder

[lean hedge]

Hehe i used yamask to make that mirror pokemon it could be a regional form .ghost hunters scared a yamask and forced them to hide one jumped in a mirror and became a new regional form

[inland jewel]

I feel like the mask isn't yamask though, its the ghost that is holding the mask

so the regional would look like yamask holding a mirror instead of a mask imo

since if you look at Galarian Yamask, the thing its holding isn't the mask at all but a rune piece

[silent acorn]

OH MY GOD SURPRISED ANNOUNCEMENT

It's... Its... A technical error

[silent acorn]

It flies through its nosestrils or through fart propulsion?

[dusty arrow]

hello chat

[south sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/kam-edwards-when-your-son-is-a-geek-kam-edwards-tiktok-juneau-chair-slam-gif-3950632174044793484

[dusty arrow]

who is this nellnasty person and why is this the first time im seeing them

also, tiktok watermark

[velvet root]

@silent acorn

[fallen loom]

not gonna happen

best you can hope for is alt sprites

[dusty arrow]

it will happen

trust me

[silent acorn]

Pressurized gas propulsion

PGP

[inland jewel]

cow flies over the moon joke here

[velvet root]

the other 2 jokes are red bull and the carnotaurus from Dinosaur kings

[silent acorn]

Spheal fans come and go

Just like the hype for spheal

And its chances of winning

[inland jewel]

evolution method. You give him an energy drink and he gains wings

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-tank-spiny-paris-metal-wing-gif-20382768

[south sluice]

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/angel-wings-fly-gif-14506801

[silent acorn]

The most copyright striked pokemon game "Admon"

[inland jewel]

I was excited for spheal at first, but so much propoganda was shoved down my throat, i.... i just don't want to see it this year... please forgive me this time

[velvet root]

rn it is a sun stone

[silent acorn]

Funny irony

[outer matrix]

Trainer battles are like unskippable ads

[silent acorn]

I once loved it

Because I loved walrein

After seeing walrein so shoved aside by the cutie fans

I have grown to loathe spheal

The most backfiring propaganda strat

[south sluice]

ironically i think i pushed torkoal more in this server

[silent acorn]

Ironically

I grown to love Torkoal because propaganda

[inland jewel]

okay, but the torkoal propoganda was like, one gif and not every 5 minutes

[south sluice]

because i still think torkoal makes better fusions

[inland jewel]

spheal propoganda was like 5 images one after the other

every minute

[silent acorn]

And like 2 fusion ones

In like 2 months

[inland jewel]

true that

yee, torkoal is a good mon. Drought user, funny turtle fusions. one slot

[silent acorn]

I like that turtle honestly

Smokey tortle

[inland jewel]

Spheal is just a ball. no one remembers sealeo. and Walrien is ok. 3 slots, and more water bloat

[silent acorn]

It's a one off so extra points for that

[inland jewel]

sure it adds more ice types, but im hating water type bloat on principal.

[silent acorn]

That and I actually have gotten the chance to use Dewgong in a different setting

And I quite liked Dewgong

[inland jewel]

yee, I've used Dewgong in my poison mono with Nidoqueen. and in fan games before an he's pretty fun to use

[silent acorn]

Water tank literally

Does it really good with hydration

[inland jewel]

even then. Thick fat is a pretty great ability

[velvet root]

There was Propaganda that gave you a good reason (and made you like the mon more) and there was bad propaganda with "look he is round so vote him" (making you dislike the line)

[inland jewel]

the best propoganda always gives good reasons why a mon should be added

[coral axle]

Pokémon I want in If I don’t really have good reasoning so I don’t spam, I just say “I think they’re neat”

[velvet root]

Like Torkoal and Gogoat imo

[south sluice]

maybe i'm biased asf but "he is round" would work on me

[velvet root]

I wonder why

[inland jewel]

like when I did Kommo-o Propoganda, the things that were going for it is.

Last Psuedo that can be added.
More fighting types (Severe drought of them)
More unique abilities and moves

[south sluice]

🤔

[tender plank]

So true

[silent acorn]

I'd honestly just add Purugly

Fun fact I hated purugly

[coral axle]

I love purugly

[silent acorn]

Now I actually like it

[velvet root]

Kommo-o only got hate cuz it is a Dragon and we have nearly all dragons

It is a cool mon for fusions imo

[silent acorn]

Because I searched up and actually found good things with purugly

[coral axle]

Kommo-o is getting a lot of hate lately

Makes me kinda sad

[silent acorn]

It does need Thinking though

It's probably hard to find ways to use it well

[velvet root]

show me

[inland jewel]

Kommo-o does give a lot for spriters to work with. it just gives so much that it intimidates people

[silent acorn]

fatty catty

[inland jewel]

like, when I did my chesnaught fusion, i gave him a scalemale chestplate using Kommo-o scales (I did horrible with teh scales)

[silent acorn]

pretty nice

[velvet root]

and as head?

im half sold atm

[silent acorn]

Perfect

[velvet root]

btw I actually like Skuntank for fusions

[weak trellis]

in purugly's defense: snorlax do be kinda ass as a body tho

[tender plank]

I think I'm sold actually

[inland jewel]

I really want Skuntank to be in. Since then i can give so many pompadours to mons

[coral axle]

Catssss

[silent acorn]

imma gonna be honest I like it because it's the closet thing to an actual tiger we have

[silent acorn]

See? It works

[coral axle]

Incineroar

[silent acorn]

Has that malleability

[silent acorn]

That's Tony tiger

[velvet root]

yeah that normal cat is cool

[silent acorn]

Not the same as Quadruped Tiger

[inland jewel]

Incineroar isn't 4 legged though, and it doesn't have whiskers

and Purugly does give that 112 base speed stat

[coral axle]

Dude I saw Incineroar go on all fours in the anime and I love it so much

Need more of it

[tender plank]

could you show? (if you can)

i'm curious

[coral axle]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-incineroar-pokemon-incineroar-fire-fang-incineroar-uses-fire-fang-gif-18126015419825791656

I need more knuckle walking Incineroar

[velvet root]

Oh yeah
He runs like a Monkey

[steel meadow]

what the hell why is this chat not dead today?

[inland jewel]

For Skuntank/Floatzel, they def could ahve turned the floaties into a skun-scarf

[coral axle]

I love kitty

[velvet root]

y should it

[molten latch]

Skunktank fusion like these are good NGL, but then again. The rule 2 is in a way sadly.

[steel meadow]

its been kinda dead lately

[molten latch]

But atleast its a good mon

[trail hull]

Because people find interesting conversations subject

[velvet root]

Rule 2 hinders bad fusions tbh

[inland jewel]

people just need self control not to go that route

[molten latch]

Ye

[steel meadow]

skuntank = cool

[velvet root]

I mean it sounds stupid
But a stink cloud could work on fusions

[inland jewel]

like, we can make Goodra fusions and Miltank Fusions that aren't prnbait

[molten latch]

True

[trail hull]

Yeah

[steel meadow]

for koffing and no one else

[velvet root]

Cuz most get sorted out from mods

[trail hull]

I still need to make a miltank fusion

[velvet root]

Its always the amount and way you use stuff

[inland jewel]

if no ones done it, do Miltank/Greninja

[steel meadow]

wait do we have gogoat/miltank?

[molten latch]

Same

[coral axle]

He creecher

[velvet root]

no only Milgoat

[coral axle]

I’m a cat fan so any cats in infinite fusion

[inland jewel]

el cretura

[coral axle]

Is good

[molten latch]

Idk why but, is it me or why does the Litten line ressembles Ultraman Belial?

[coral axle]

Liepard my beloved

[trail hull]

Maybe

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-saltydkdan-friendlocke-liepard-hitmonlee-gif-17160346450942771577

[coral axle]

I love that cat sm

[inland jewel]

imagine they bring back dive cats

[trail hull]

Also why greninja miltank in particular

[inland jewel]

its udder can be its tongue scarf

[steel meadow]

ew

[trail hull]

Ew

[inland jewel]

its already wrapping its tongue around itself

[velvet root]

ew

[inland jewel]

wahts so different

[steel meadow]

i honestly dont like that either

[coral axle]

I suppose I can say what I’d want in If

[steel meadow]

frogadier > greninja

[silent acorn]

We promoting mons

[steel meadow]

gogoat?

[trail hull]

It’s udders , also it would go from the belly to the neck and be weird

The goat should get in

[steel meadow]

i am cooking goats