#pif-hoenn-discussion
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Because I think it was always made to be one of the most mobile strange pokemon
Originally the sprite went nuts on movement
So you wouldn't appreciate the intricacies as much
with this combiniason, i would a custom sprite from elden ring, ranni , a frost spirit with a fox witch, it's perfect and with the dark souls custom sprite it's a good idea .
If you think of like a little toy you could give several engravings too it's not that bad
Just gotta stylized the faces to nazca line style
but yeah heads could make insane Aku Aku Things
higher res
if it works atleast once it could work other ways
minior would go hard
Sigilyph would be cool because it's another Magic Guard user with more specialized stats than Clefable
so alakazam but worse
hi
Why would I need another magic guard user, Clefable is right there
Trying too cook but I am tired
I feel schleepy
feel like sleeping man
How is it looking?
This thing came out as 288 288 to use the custom base
Damn hard as nails but that's pixel studio I guess
Golisopod is so hype. One of my favorite bugs.
cool we got Isopod Necrozma
when samurott eventually gets added, there needs to be a fusion of him and goli...and its just an anime reference
But… but he’s not anime
Also if Bouffalant ever got added I expect one of his fusions to just be Afro Samurai
i have a much better option for bouffalant
+greninja
Good for ninja but what about Samurai?
is lurantis the first way to get contrary in the game?
Ah I forgot about the shucks
its stats are kinda medicore but I think there are some fun things you could do with the lurantis fusions with contrary
get something with close combat and go crazy
how dare you fuckle with the shuckle
I wasn't flaming the shuckle I was saying lurantis stats are kinda iffy
Aww shucks
wanna see my shuckle set 
theres also t-tar as a sand setter to boost spdef and a alomomola in the back to pass wishes
the sprites are going hard
imagine rock head wave crash and head smash lmao
Goliso is in right? as I can download and access him?
hes not in the game yet but he will be in
Understood
you can use him in showdown tho
but holy heck the sprite does go hard
Also happy for lurantis as well, can't wait to see the designs
dude
lurantis/golisopod could go hard
grass/water, leaf storm contrary and superpower contrary
Not to mention first impression still
and if you got lurantis's ability that means it stays in and just keeps smashing.
i still kinda find it weird that water doesnt have a -2 special attack move yet
Probably because it has a few too many special attacking pokemon in the water type who could easily spam that.
Not to mention how easy it is to get rain on the field.
ok but it would be pretty funny
agreed
No matter what I finally get to see best bug golisopod get sick kamen rider fusions.
kinda a shame we will never get lokix
I agree but at least we have one
golisopod not being in sv was such a dumb move
I know, why the hell was it not???
i mean its counterpart got in
It was in 8 and this game has actual oceans for the love of god.
I mean I guess you can at least transfer it
but still
Glad golisopod is in
wait you can transfor goliso into sv?
transfer*
or am i stupid
You cant??
I figured you could since it was a prior gen
if not thats really lame :/
i dont think you can
well then, thats really lame
Golisopod and deoxys would be a sick combo
Gonna do a golisopod only run at some point
just nothing but golisopod fusions
If emergency exit just worked AFTER the pokemon took its turn it would be a fantastic ability
i did find a niche use for emergency exit actually
I mean, its obvious use case was when you use first impression with golisopod
he goes first, slams for tons of damage, then swaps out to let something else priorty to finish it off.
the issue is that if you use anything else that doesn't have priority, he gets outsped, often gets down to half health, and swaps
golisopod evo ability: tactical retreat, upon using first impression, if it does more than 50% to the opposing pokemon, switch out
I wish
Golisopod joins slaking and regigigas in pokeon who would be pretty damn good if their ability didn't ruin everything.
regigigas and archeops being some of my favorite pokemon:
regigigas is my 2nd favorite pokemon, actually
Negative abilities are so mean 😦
gamefreak hates regigigas so much they gave him slow start in the game without abilities
make a cool pokemon and then take a pipe wrench to their viability for lore reasons.
That made me laugh so hard when I found out.
THE THING IS
ARCHEOPS DOESNT EVEN HAVE BUSTED STATS
IT JUST HAS GOOD STATS-
Ik, its just ok
Kinda funny 💀
On the flipside, pokemon who would be good if they actually had lore relevant abilities
RAMPARDOS
the
ROCK
HEAD
POKEMON
140 110 speed
Doesn't get rocky head
Why does rampardos not get good speed?
its the head butt pokemon
Either way, rocky head should have been its ability
Because its forehead is way to heavy 
and its rock head not rocky
They should give archeops tough claws ngl
but yeah it should have
Its too slow to make use of its attack stat and signature attack without just dying instantly.
That would be hella based
its skull is a foot thick and is as strong as steel
agreed.
also give it a rock move that makes contact 
Brave bird is the only big part really
At least now golisopod can fuse off its ability
Tough Claws brave bird is one drug
i mean theres also dual wingbeat
Tough claws dwb is worse than brave bird
Tough Claws Brave Bird is insanely strong
give it technician then 
I feel like Emergency Exit would be way better if it made Pod switch at the end of the turn instead of immediately after losing 50% HP
Do you think we'll ever get a fully original story/region with IF's mechanics?
I’m hoping!
I also want slurpuff, for more fairy types if nothing else.
I hope that we can add custom hats in the new update.
Really want a turtwig hat and legendary themed clothes
The twig on turtwigs head
U want to look like an immature Pikmin?
It's perfectly positioned for a hat
I want grumpig
hey, question are new Pokemon gonna be added or is 500 the limit?
frog is stopping at 500 for this next update, we dont know whats gonna happen after that
ok, not that picky tho, I do love the pokemon that are already in, just hope someday my fav obscure pokemon may join the party
as long as it's not after gen7 it's still a possiblity
is there a reason for no pokemon past gen 7?
the game uses gen7 movesets, if you add pokemon after that you'd have to create entirely new movesets for new pokemon
Engine limitations
just sawsbuck floatzel shaymin
guess not golisopod cause gen 7
about that
would love to see sawsbuck, it's one of my favs
sawsbuck would be cool
and shaymin but that would prob entail a whole quest or something so I'd say probably not likely for now
Sawsbuck + Gardevoir for funny deer
(It won’t be added this vote)
if any pikachu variant gets in it should be dedenne
Why?
Absolutely not
cuter
Dedenne is currently the second lowest of the pikaclones.
who's the lowest? I bet it's togedemaru
Nah it’s the gen 3 ones
gotta be honest, I forgot about them entirely
Plusel and Minun
Yeah, Plusle and Minun share a spot near the bottom.
they're kind of a package deal anyway
They're in the same vote slot, so I hope so.
Hopefully the next reveal is a gen 5 or 4 mon
It's not like Frog is gonna start making a split version 
Togedemaru is the 3rd lowest pikaclone iirc, after Emolga and Pachi.
Pls no flying rat
can't handle the volt switch
Rahh love gen 5
Hopefully it’s gothitelle or excadrill
Tbf, Emolga is the third most unique and beloved pikaclone.
Excadrill was the only non gen 7 mon to make top of the vote
Need more pokemon to earthquake with 
furfrou would be nice to see just because of the fusion potential and the fact gamefreak wants to pretend that the pokemon doesn't even exist anymore
Fun fact: of all the pokemon with earthquake, Torterra gets it the earliest in IF
Upon evolution, at level 32
That's still like 6 levels past the Surge fight unfortunately.
Well not if you don’t have lvl caps on
There's also only two other pokemon you can get that early who learn EQ before Erika's level cap.
Wooper (not quagsire) and Geodude (Not gravler or golem)
If you had Groudon it could, though!
Drillbur gets it at level 44 by comparison, and Excadrill at 52
NVM that's gen 9 moveset.
It's 33 and 36 respectively in Gen 7
slowking oranguru or vise versa quiz Duell fusion
Also the only monkeys I except are the alola ones
Also an idea cuz it can use tools electrode oranguru should be it trowing electrode
bus
nah next mon is passimian and oranguru
Wouldnt mind that
i like how oranguru,s dex entry states that it does Quiz Duells with slowking someone should made a fusion ref based of that dex entry
And meowth is the quiz host
I wonder who will be the next mon
Same
I guess if we’re going off of popularity, salazzle or slurpuff are my guesses
What about Gogoat?
Popularity wise we can just look at the last open vote
hmm monkey
Where gogoat were nowhere to be seen
People saying a Pokémon in the chat here aren’t indicative of popularity. Gogoat would be nice, but it has no track record of making any main vote/special vote/raffle or anything. It’s a frog pick, it could get in, but Kalos starters and goliso lead me to believe some of these are popularity picks that almost made it rather than an obscure out of left field pick
I mean, Gogoat have some sprites and also hype even when the votes of the last year ends
I remember when they just make an goat rush some months ago
could be this case how well did malamar and pumpkin go
Well all Pokémon have some sprites, if we went off of that diancie would be in right now, something I learned in the last vote is making sprites does not make you entitled to getting your pick in
Im just saying
And I’m saying don’t hold your breath
Why? I understand but why it sound like that type of thing?
I still think Gogoat has a decent chance aslong as its not a popularity pick
coping
I imagine gogoat would be a safari themed reveal
Well... I dont if we already get The Bruxish Situation with Golisopod (being too viral in the server, hate or love)
Gogoat has a decent following, I wouldnt be overly surprised to see it added
Well, same
It souds like youre talking about a cult
I swear we arent a cult
Not that much but yes
Bug cult is real
I wouldnt mind if we just got bugs for the reveals
Me neither
Theres easily 13 more bugs we need
Its you, Pinkpalkia and that one guy over in the corner
Why we need more bugs? What about Ice Type?
Oh we need ice types too
Bug supremacy
But stuff like Araquanid, Rimbombee, Crustle, Vikavolt and Leavanny is all mons i really want
I just want UB's or Mienshao, but the 13 slots makes me feel like we're not getting UBs this update
Ice types just has spheal and then i dont like any more ice types 
Yeah id be suprised if we get UB's
Cryogonal
Spheal 
cryogonal would be actually nice
That thing have too many chances
an ice type that actually has speed
Beartic would give us Slush Rush if added
and Abomasnow would make Hail not a pain to get
I thought it was like 19 more between gens 5/7
We have Aurorus
We have 13 slots
What the battery said
Dont eat batteries
Ohhh I see
Dont do it
Im not going to eat pory dw 
Still think all bugs from Gen 5/7 would be bangers no matter what
Oops all bugs:
Leavanny 3
Escavalier 2
Accelgor 2
Durant 1
Crustle 2
So all unova bugs cost 10
Alola edition:
Buzzwole 1
Pheromosa 1
Vikavolt 3
Ribombee 2
Araquanid 2
And all alola bugs cost 9
No durant pls
Why? Amazing stats for fusions and fastest steel type body
Vikavolt would be awesome
Ant
Design wise i dont like it 
Very hype
Design wise I don’t like you
Jk

violence
Honestly tho me just going "this shit ugly" every time u got good arguments for a mon is probably annoying 
Not just you, but it’s a fair criteria for people to vote on
Skuntank, castform, Beartic, etc. have reasons to not be added based on potentially gross fusions that their designs inspire
Oh yeah Beartic could very easily end up as another Miltank fusionwise, didn't consider that
That happen with some pokemon and ends in nothing
I mean, not as bad I don’t think, but snot fusions is a fair point against it I’ll admit, slush rush and polar bear fusions would be cool tho
im gonna prepare a 387.44 million miles long essay about pokemon i don't want
Oh shoot
I'm excited for the snot fusions
To each their own, some people are also excited about skuntank fart fusions but they have reason to be disliked by some
Im still not convinced we'll get that many fart fusions for skuntank
In the end? Yeah probably not
But maybe i have too much faith in our community
I’m spritework? Man it’s gonna be a field day
I accidentally made a fart fusion out of Sandile/Ponyta
Good thing i dont check spritework too frequently anymore 
how.
Oh sandcloud instead of ponyta fire that looked like a stinker?
I used shiny Sandile's colors for the flames
You dont happen to have sandile shiny saved? 
Now it has pink flames 
Nope
oh i see it
Anyways i for one think skuntank would make for lots of awesome fusions
I'm 30/70 on that
I think some of our spriters would have a field day with the hair thing it got going on
But I don't really care for it
Also purple color scheme is nice
Have you ever heard its cry?
Listen to it 
Give me a second to get privacy
im not gonna soundbomb my coworkers with a pokemon cry 
They deserve to know
I read Skuntank and I can see it have a lot of cool fusions
What the hell gamefreak
I think it'll suffer Magmortar's fate
Nothing really, just a cool design that's hard to pull off
What fate?
Oh like electivire too
Yep
I tried to do a electivire fusion and cried
They're cool and have good potential, but are really hard to pull off
I think you helped me with the head of it actually 
Btw Stunky is cute fusion
Especially since a lot of their details are catered to their type
Honestly tho i think theyre a good addition the cast
But i suppose most pokemon are good additions
Yeah
We're sort of getting to the point where it's hard for a Pokémon line all be guaranteed some level of success
Hakamo-o and Fomantis are testament to this
and quilladin 
im pretty sure 95% of quilladin sprites are literally just for spriterdex
...shut up
carbink got plenty of sprites even tho people argued against it 🔥
The people that argued against it were objectively wrong 
And how people make chaos for it
Why wait when i can sit here and argue with people online and cope about my favorites not making it? 
me when most of my favs already made it
Because it never change.
only a few more needed!
I won't wait.
You do you.
I bet frog is reading this conversation right now and will add gogoat just because they are reading this message
Thats how it works right?
Right?
Not really
We can dream
Zero, they doubt about Gogoat hype, show the team work
Im one of the goat propagandists but I'm just sceptical to our popularity (my most recent sprites)
Dont mind the little icognito thing i googled shiny sandile 
Cant have the government know about that!
I remember that rush some months ago
googling everything in incognito just to not get random ads 🔥
We're still active in that thread. We should make another mass dump just to suprise everyone again tho
Maybe someone will actually think goat made it
Me using Brave Browser.

True
Also Sp plans a event
And I want to do a Goat telephone soon
Ooh goat telephone sounds awesome
Sp who?
Oh ok
Has to be 4 max
I see i see. My worry is that we have some that only does one part of the telephone (me not drawing or Yufika not spriting for example.)
I mean drawing skill isnt a big thing
Just draw over a Pokemon and add cheap ass features
But then i would feel horrible giving that to someone else 
Also i think you underestimate my ability to not be able to draw
I dont
It will be hilarious with all of us who cant draw for shit
if durant are added, his predator fire type will be added too , like zangoose and the snake pokemon. it's 2 pokemon for one
Also horrible advertisement for the goat 
We may cant draw but we can sprite 😎
Yeah you would think that but despite that heatmor and Durant were separate on the vote where Zangoose and seviper were not. They got like same number of dex entries referencing eachother, so I dunno
i see but it's just logic than the prey and the prédator are together in the game
We saw that

Yeah I’d like them to be together too but idk frog’s choice
Being associated with Durant is probably the only thing that'll get Heatmor voted in anyway lol
It's a super forgotten Pokemon besides that
Eh, it’s got a unique move. Idk why Gen 7 gave only heatmor a unique move but I’m not complaining
It’s like fire lash or something
You saw what?
Dw about it, frog accidentally leaked a voice clip saying what the next Mon was, and considering what happened last time I was involved with leak I’m keeping my mouth shut
Im just going to pretend that
meant the frog read this
Sure
He probably did write in the wrong chat
Let a man cope 
The problem is that Courage saw it befoe
They didnt see anything 
I asked him, he didn't hear it
He just saw others discussing it before it dissapeared
You know how Frog sometimes accidentally hits his record key
Man was wheezing like a goat last time I heard him
FROG IS WATCHING, MAKE SOMETHING FUNNY NOW
Take a Goat
Goli was very demanded
But next one is up on the air
Neither poll nor raffle choices have similars
Could be Slurpuff but I wouldn't be too sure
I wonder if frog likes Gogoat or Sawsbuck more from the 2 Hornleechers
why my gif wont work
epic embed fail
It's not here for me
guess my discord is actin up again
Based on what froggo has said about Binacle and Castform
I guess he likes weird mons
Most of the picks for last year staff was weird mons
Nothing particularly specific
i patiently wait for malamar
Possibilities
There is Castform
No matter how you flip it it's an ever present one like tropius
But unlike Tropius has interesting things
I do expect a form change mon since he said that we maybe dont get 30 diffrent pokemon
I wouldn't put it above Froggo
Cherrim honestly blows so probably not it
paradox forms 
No? Wtf?
How can that be such a common occurrence 
It apparently is
flutter mane head fusions 
Just noticed that Wimpod and golisopod's dex numbers are the middle missing ones. While I knew they were the ones added the other day, I couldnt read the announcement until now. Been busy the last couple of days and now im without stable internet as of yesterday, so I had to wait like 10 whole minutes for the submarine messages to load so I could go late exploring with the sub lol. Looks like the artists had a lot of fun with this one! 
He is trying to tease the new Pokemon
My first time encountering it though
Galarian Weezing
This is the 2nd time I've seen it
First was in #1198414970744995961
Oh you saw it too?
Not this time
Oh
But seeing people talk about it
I saw the one in character customization, but there wasn't really anything in it
Maybe we should get the frog a inhaler if its as bad as you guys are describing
what
What?
I mean
That’s gonna be a sentiment some people have
Then again frog might be trolling specifically me and saying a Mon it won’t be
Who knows
Im not sure why they would do that 
I mean why should he say a Mon in a Voice message
It seemed accidental? But was only a second long
"Plusle" huff "Minun" puff and then the voice clip was over
On the off chance I’m not whacking that hornets nest again if it is real
The one I saw was less than a second, which does seem very accidental
Im sure its nothing
He would have said that you heard nothing
What would the Poke be
Frog could also try gaslighting with it
I think they would pull up in your dms with a glock
Exactly
I can confirm he didn’t do that
In my experience he usually just responds with eyes but idk that might be me
Btw when do we see a Goat from you bro?
wait how do i make a poll
On the +
I've got to finish this one, and maybe a few more till I feel like I'm able to sprite one
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1284265882318672023
Ooooh a Chomp
Brave
cutie
Yeah chomp seemed more complicated than I thought
I'm just bad at using the discord app on my phone lmfao
Chomp still annoys me
discord mobile kinda sucks
Ive never managed to hit the mic button on phone 
they also change stuff what feels like every 6 months
Clumsy frog

Feel that
I was close to accidantly send a voice message too sometimes
I didn't even know you could send a voice message
I remember I once fell asleep while writing and randomly called someone on this server XD
yeah that's mobile only I think
can't do voice messages on desktop
can play them but can't record them
Is this the scary button
Why would they put it at the same spot as the send button 
nah it's in DMs only I believe
or chats with perms
it should be to the right of the send or emote button
like right next to it lol
Ah mines on the right
Oh maybe its like a ios thing or something?-
For me it's in the discord ui not the keyboard itself. Idk why you don't have it
yeah it's in the discord ui for me too
Maybe i dont have perms like that one person said
Oh yeah, that might be it actually
In dms its in the ui
Actually maybe it's because we're not allowed to in this server
I think you turned off voice messages on the server thats why it isnt there for them
The struggles that come with having all the perms 
yee dms
Its okay you can just hand me them!
The struggle to be Goated

Ill send voice messages of me whispering random pokemon names or something
I can't believe someone actually read my advice lmao
They're fun to use
I hit the button on accident all the time tho

I would hit that button all the time too. Good thing im not the owner of a 500000+ user discord server 
It's a hard life 
it doesn't sound like it'd be all that great lmao
||Aka Skiddo and Gogoat
||
managing my own server was stressful and that was like maybe 200 people max, not all of which were active
can't imagine one of this size lol
Aka a bunch of unova mons to gaslight courage 
True
I wish
real

Tranquill
Simipour
I got enough voices in my head trolling me into believing reveals will be for unova
Cacturne 
My Voices are a lil diffrent
h e a t m o r
Regiunova
Superdendant I was just. . . Stretching on my calf on the window seal. Asymetrically exercise, care to join me?
w h a t
(Its a Steamed Hams Reference)
is this what your voices sounds like?
seymour
Heatmor/seymour
why does everyone know of this clip
i dont meme
“Why is there steam coming out of your tail heatmor?”
No, it's an aurora borealis
is it seriously just me that didnt know of this 
most likely forms to make it in for Pokémon we don't have yet:
Shaymin Sky
Floette Eternal
Meowstic ♀♂
Pumpkaboo line sizes
Zygarde Complete
Minior Core
pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls shaymin sky
We're not getting different different pumpkaboo sizes
An aurora veil alolan ninetails? In this part of Pokémon in this game of infinite fusion in this new Pokémon discussion localized entirely in your kitchen?
I could see supersize getting in and the regular size, but not the rest
id be suprised if we got minior core aswell
Yes
pumpkaboo sizes would be tough to convey with such a small canvas
We could, but Pumpkaboo line would def only have 2 slots for spriter’s
Darmanitan
I took that one off actually
You think we’re not getting it?
Yes that's true
i think zen mode wont work
I don't think we are
I suppose you don’t have wishiwashi up there either but
same way shield form doesnt work for aegislash
That’s surprising
yeah good point about the shield form
Well, technically the form doesn’t exist, it just swaps defenses and attacks, so yeah I don’t think we’re getting like, shield form as a sprite slot
I think disguise doesn't fully work for fusions either? i can't remember
most likely forms to make it in for Pokémon we don't have yet:
Shaymin Sky
Floette Eternal
Meowstic ♀♂
Darmanitan Zen
Wishiwashi School
Zygarde Complete
Minior Core
But it kind of exists since it does swap defenses?
it doesnt
yeah im just thinking spriter slot/pokedex wise
thx for confirm I knew I remembered that right lol
Cherrim, rotom and castform have different forms.
rotom is in the game and doesnt have its forms
Then yes, Aegi won’t ever be, unlikely that giratina and deoxys and rotom would ever be, and I don’t think Pumpkaboo or minior will be either
i wish gameplay wise rotom got its different forms tho
Rotom won't because it's already in
For slots I think they might be like “blank slots” at 1000+ just to hold the form’s information like different stats or typing
But all would use same sprites
tbf rotom forms were added before separate slots for forms started happening so it's possible that could maybe change at some point
might be a pain to code that at this point though idk
They did say this was a possibility in the oricorio reveal, but I don’t think they’ll make them “true” extra slots as it would be a nightmare for spriters
other than Lycanroc
hello chat
yeah I don't really know what an elegant solution to it would be
just fuse Magikarp with an ice type
i dont think the deoxys/rotom forms are meaningfully different enough visually for us to make multiple sprites for them anyways
but ice type magikarp is a completely separate pokemon
Oh true
I wanted to do a Magikiddo
It works, but it's broken so it refreshes every time mimikyu is sent out in battle
I mean the stat distruibution is different for Deoxys and almost everything is different between base Rotom and its forms except for Ability
ahh okay
imagine 400 or so ai generated sprites aswell
Which is very over powered
Just saw the announcement. YAY GOLISOPOD
Here I’ll use minior as an example
Many minior sprites don’t differentiate between core and meteor form, incorporating design elements of both
Let’s say minior is slot 490, and its core form is like slot 1001. The 1001 slot is only there to hold minior core form’s new stats. Spriters only use 490 when submitting minior sprites. Sprites for 490 apply to both 490 and 1001, so in game sprites don’t actually change, but stats do.
There is a bigger problem imo
Sprites already exist
Sorting the existing ones will be too hard
Also Rotom fusions often become devices how do you work with those?
imagination?
thats why i proposed having rotom get its forms but we just use all the rotom sprites we have right now
designing the fusions is far less of an issue than the clusterfuck it'd cause for the game itself
cuz i still want a fire type with levitate for example.
I would still be against it
get eelektross in and fuse it with a fire type
hmmm I could see that possibly working
I would think separate slots for deoxys would make more sense than rotom since the stats change more between them
i dont like rotom heat as the only fire/electric type, despite fire/electric being my favorite type combo
the types change with the rotom forms ofc but the stats remain the same
except for base rotom, base rotom is weaker
ofc
I did mean only one core
the dumb rabbit from gen 8 shouldve been fire/electric
yes
fire/fighting makes more sense when you look at its design
but yknow
I will take mono fire over fire fighting
And what are we doing with the fusions that reference multiple or non Deoxys
mono typed starters suck
I dont know the speedy vibes plus the yellow in its design makes me think electric type. Especially when you take into account its personality
is it that hard to use alt sprites?
feraligatr and sceptile are my 2 favorite starters, take that back
Nope
But I dont want to be the person sorting out the Deoxys forms
I dunno 
I mean modern ones
so gen 8 and nothing else
which i agree with, the galar starters are my least favorite starter trio
I think I've found the point of making double fusions:
If you get a Charmander with the egg move Belly Drum and another with Crunch, you can combine them to get a Belly Drumming Cruncher
yeah they should have been Grass/Fighting, Fire/Electric and Water/Poison
i like water/ghost more, since it could go invisible
water/dark would work too, but we already got greninja and then hisuian samurott
Y Poison
I could see it shooting out poison
middle evolution looks a little poisonous to me
also the prevo used water balloons so maybe drop some poison in it
ground couldve also work for rillaboom, since it can control the vines in the ground
but dark type makes more sense cuz the scheming vibes and being a damn hitman
does cinderace get blaze kick
so both fire and water starters would have advantage over the other two while grass gets screwed by both
either way, not mono Water
hmmm
empoleon in gen 4:
like Gen 4 starters and Empoleon
empoleon could still hit infernape with water
empoleon is gen 4....
what
ok but what are the chances it survives close combat
wdym what
I meant it is in gen 4
grass fighting doesn't have any counter against fire electric and water poison
like of the Gen 4 starters Empoleon sucks
Torterra arguably sucks more
rillaboom gets eq btw
Although i love him with my whole heart
ig
against the other starters, Emopleon sucks
They're all super effective against each other?
im sad that grass/ground is a bad type cuz torterra is so cool
Empoleon gets ice beam
Gen 4 has the best starters
what is better, emo Typhlosion or crocodile?
Gen 1 has the second worst starters
Galar
that we agree on
I meant the Paldean one
still croc
Should’ve been more specific
I thought gen 9 had some of the more widely appealing starters imo
I mean I said emo Typhlosion
although im not sure what the dancing duck appeals to.
gayziken
(Feratligator’s still the GOAT though)
this is true
what is better, Skel or Fera?
I could never choose
i prefer feraligatrs design
That’s who it appeals to
If it’s just first stages, unova easily, with sinnoh as a close second
plus dragon dance is funny
therefore gen 9 starters are the most widely appealing
I don't like Skeldirge TBH
its the only gen that appeals to miror b
gen 3 had ludicolo
thats not a starter
yeah Colo/XD remakes with dancing duck
BRING BACK MIRROR B
it is if you try hard enough
it honestly could be
would lotad be a water starter or a grass starter
Neither
yes
Can’t be a starter if you have 2 of the starter types
it's rare for three-stage Water, Grass and Fire types to not evolve via trading or some item other than starters
they should just mix up the starter types for gen 10
cant be a starter if i remove you from reality idk
pseudo moment
none of the psuedos have the starter types i just realized
lol
even if you include eevee and the bitch ass rat
pikachu
oh.
pikachu took all the good shit from other electrics and light ball from raichu
give the electric types volt tackle you greedy fuck
He is a Hampter
thats how i feel about charizard sometimes
yes. rat
Hoppip could be a starter, since none of its line needs to trade, know a move or needs an item to evolve
That’s how I feel about Charizard all the time
charizard didnt benefit much from paldea
but like megas and gigantamax form was fucking dumb
Charizard lost its wings in Paldea
Gen 8’s is the hamster
Both have Hampter
any rodent is rat
Morpeko is best pikaclone BTW
Gen 4 and 5 had 2 diffrent types of Squirrels didnt they?
Weird way to spell Emolga
Good
[𝐄𝐗𝐓𝐑𝐄𝐌𝐄𝐋𝐘 𝐋𝐎𝐔𝐃 𝐈𝐍𝐂𝐎𝐑𝐑𝐄𝐂𝐓 𝐁𝐔𝐙𝐙𝐄𝐑]
morpeko is pretty good though
dedenenennene is best pikaclone
but i like pawmot honestly
It has a hangrey form, need I say more
Pawmo at least evolves
are u ok?
also mimikyu
look at me
mimikyu isnt a pikaclone
Isnt a Pikaclone
yeah ur not okay you should see someone
thats like saying archaludon isnt a psuedo
it isnt
So it is correct?
get out of me restaurant mr squarepants
archaludon is a psuedo, so is slaking
doesnt matter what you want to think
Both arent pseudos
palafin doesnt count because palafin is stupid and dumb and stupid
They are Semi pseudo legendarys
agree to disagree
A pseudo-legendary Pokemon is an unofficial term coined by fans. It refers to Pokemon that have three things: A three-stage evolution line. Base stat of exactly 600 before Mega Evolution. 1,250,000 experience at level 100.
nope
No your factually wrong
why are u and pory both batteries?
agree to disagree
also see that word?
We're powering the server 
unofficial
its a fan term so literally can't be rong
its however a person wants to view it
YEAH CUZ GF NAME FOR THEM IS STUPID
honestly
pokemon has made a term for them now
and it means teh same thing
its been a fan term before powerhouse
In that case, Sunkern is a psudo legendary
so
slaking is not a powerhouse pokemon, neither is archaludon
i approve of this message
powerhouse is less of a dumb term than ''first partner pokemon''
agree to agree
all pokemon are pseudo legendaries
breloom is a very cool fellow
except smoochum because why not
except palafin hero
im pseudo legendary 
because palafin hero can burn in the pits of hell
ugly mon yeah
god i fucking hate palafin hero
So you know if GF didnt call them that all the time?
anyways
because they never made a term for it-
True
Vote refrigid
psuedo legendary has always been a fanmade thing
vote refrigid
like shinies until whenever they used it
Neither are as dumb as the fact that Type: Null is officially considered a legendary 🙄
And even if it is a fan term it is a very specific one so dont call random mons Pseudos
ice type magikarp endorses this message
Your argument is more against yours than mine XD
I'll make the Ice Type Magikarp/Refrigid fusion
i mean it is an evolution of a legendary
Where is that Kangaroo from?
australia
oh right sivally or whatever
man that mon is forgetable
(btw now I dont make a Ice type magikarp for you) 
well then skiddo and gogoat wont get ice type magikarp endorsement
also aren't pseudos referred to "600 club" or whatever in japan
Silvally should really be a form change rather than an evolution
i have an attachment to silvally cus i got a shiny onefrom an event when sm (or usum) released
i named him biocide :)
man that mt silver fight is fucking sick
Can we somehow get Gen 8 pokemons?
What happens first?
3
4
2
Firesword makes a goat?
oh lmao stupid poll 
Not possible
shiny is a fan term too and the infamous fear tactic
😭
not before all mons before gen 7
(i would hope so at least)
shiny isn't a fan term anymore, it used to be
fucking evil ass rat 
How about Incineroar then
it would be so sad if we get gen 8 before we get all pre gen 7 mons
yeah
cuz that just means we'll never get some pokemon
Shiny was originally a fan term that has since been made official
skill swap sturdy to shedinja almost invincible
We already got a starter set
we can make a fear tactic with a sturdy pokemon fused with a pokemon with leech seed
ya cant swap wonder guard
Isn’t litten a starter too
thats refrigid 
I gonna give it a everstone so it cant evolve into that nightmare
you dont know refrigid?
That wasnt my question
bro imagine electric type wonderguard shedinja with air baloon
torracat is the fastest sm starter
switches in my hippowdon
Torracat maybe
refrigid is a gen 4 pokemon dont you remember
Terrastilation
That thing, no.
terrastilation
electroos would be fine cuz levitate as an electric type is good
And here it is, the Refrigid/Ice Type Magikarp fusion 
what is a refrigid
Froggos secret weapon
tf is a refrigid
It's the chats blackmail
oh that must be the pokemon they said when they accidentally posted that voice message
Yes exactly
Fakemon wen
You know
I am curious how many fighting fakemon there are
Seems hard to make one
ok so guys i saw some people with charjabug pfp’s so charjabug confirmed
not gonna lie this is badass. makes me wish for Legend of Zelda pokemon
So, does anyone have a list with the mons that are not the game
Man the Aztec Region beta looks good
c o m f e y
Everything not in red highlight is not in the game
I suspect a form change or weird pokemon
The real question tho
Is which
ok i want to make a charjabug now
shedinja/charjabug
Thank bruv
I mean barbaracle is pretty strange
Np
Mmmmmm, strange maybe, weird?
Malamar would be weird just because of its evo thing
And frog did mention that one time he would kind like it
And then i spread missinformation untill people thought it was one of their favorites 
Honestly if malamar were added he’d either try to do something really funny or just make it level 30
As much as I like it, I think it's too edgy for staff
Then again
Edgy?
What
I don’t think so
Like I dunno
Edgy?
How to evolve inkay in infinite fusion:
"Turn your pc upside down"
maybe there’s a button on inkay to flip it upside down 
Garchomp era type
I think inkay would appeal to more cute than anything
I think malamar would go hard for a villain type trainer aswell
Yeah but that's Inkay and then Malamar is a whole different beast
Maybe they pick it, maybe not hard to tell
To evolve Inkay, you need to put a hat on it but upside down, then when it hits level 30 it will evolve
Just let's put it in the likely alongside
- castform
-Barbaracle
-Malamar
What would be a very likely staff pick you think?
That's the hard thing to tell
Staff is very unpredictable
But seems they like the unique ones
Like hawlucha
I think slurpuff is a staff design
I’m p sure for the cresselia reveal, it was said that minior made it but was vetoed
Idk why
Minior also made the spriter vote so
Then let's add
-Castform
-Barbaracle
-Malamar
-Minior
-Slurpuff
Slurpuff does have cool ideas being food mon
I think salazzle could also be likely, it was third on the main vote
There is Vanilluxe being a hybrid of both
I mean... There is the bad rep with rule 2
But I think it's neat
Man i thought i liked ice types
Still made it, and didn’t stop Goodra
untill i saw the ice types we have yet to get to pif
Then again... Goodra was poll voted lol

