#pif-hoenn-discussion
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it counts as a cat so its not allowed
those would be interesting to sprite with unironically
We don’t 
You mention the Prairie Dog thing like Watchog has a ghost of a chance in a vote
Meant to tag someone else
I'd like to get all the rodents in
More chance than basculin and illumise 
I like those odds
well it depends on how many votes are there after this
since its like bottom 3, it might get in next vote if the votes stay the same
I imagine Basculin has a chance to get in purely based on people who both like Basculegion and don't read that it won't be included
Considering the poll itself stated in bold lettering that Basculegion isn't gettin in
4 abilities goes brrrrrrr (there will only be 1 form added
)
Basculin: good attack and speed, only water type with access to reckless, only water type body that has access to rock head, only water type to naturally get access to adaptability, and the only water type that gets mold breaker, and the only water type with access to final gambit, also has the same BST as Camerupt and sharpedo right off the bat
Basculegion would be great. We just need someone to figure out how to put gen 8 and 9 in IFs engine
you're forgetting Crawdaunt with adaptability
People don't read.
We don’t have regional variants regardless
Does white-stripe count as a regional variant?
If we could get Gen 8+, I would accept getting only white stripe since red and blue would be too similar
Yes
Sadly
also we could just make blue and red evolve into the female and male variants
"Gen 8+ isn't getting in" is pinned ABOVE THE POLL but people are still asking if we can get, for example, Rookidee
So glad we made that meme that got pinned in this channel
You mean like they should’ve done in the first place
It’s helped circumvent some arguments
Gen 8+ IS possible. We just need someone to figure out how to put gen 8 and 9 in IFs engine
Yes
Regional variants become complicated when we reach Gen 8. Are we really gonna deny Cursola, Sneasler, and Mr. Ryme a chance to get in just because they evolve from regional forms?
Until that happens it's not possible 
And CLODSIRE?
Yes, in fact.
I'm sure someone will find a way
Why not make an exception for their pre-evolutions
I hope so! But until then, gen 8 discussion is dead
Yes
What's y'alls preferred legendaries to get in?
Cosmog line
cosmog line and xern
Victini for sure
Prob shaymin, cosmog line, Xerneas because fairy type head
Either Xernas and Yveltal or the cosmog line
If we want to include Mythicals as Legendaries (Which I do, not arguing this), then Victini or Marshadow
Mine is personally the alphabet trio.
New triple
Maybe even three triples in one because of Zygarde's different forms
Calling them the alphabet trio is the first time I’ve ever seen someone so reluctant to say aura trio in my life
Xerneas/Yveltol/Zygarde
I forgot the trio name
and we will have 3 more when the alola starters get added 
Legendary Letters also came to mind
I love cats though so I'm not complaining
nothing in them screams "aura" to me yk?
I doubt it, it would probably be a fusion with just snake or just complete, maybe snake into complete if you’re lucky
The name came from their abilities: dark aura, fairy aura, aura break
Which would also be banger abilities to have in game
I forgot those were a thing TBH
Yeah it’s forgettable
Diggersby tho
Diggersby is also pretty forgettable
Let's get Xerneas in with Swoobat for +4 Special stats+ speed boost
bunnelby design >>>>>
I like Diggersby because it's basically a classic Hiker
Diggersby has the stats of a middle evo :/
If it had another evolution it'd be p good
Could be with ZA
Diggersby/Lopunny
None of the regional rodents are good stat wise
Kid named FEAR rattata
aron says hi
Oh nm
Kid named Espeed
Kid named triage drain punch Comfey fusion
Or aqua jet or mach punch or accelerock or probably others that I’m forgetting
(Shadow sneak wouldn’t work against Rattata)
Kid who breaks the mold vs sturdy FEAR
Eh…. Gumshoos brings stakeout at a cost of fusions, diggersby has huge power and maybe something else? Watchog honestly struggles beyond niche cases of being a good fusion for catching mons, and…
Would the rodent of Gen 3 be mightyena or am I blanking?
Oh right that one ty
Diggersby has an attack 3 points higher than Azumarill
Watchog is the only Gen 5 Pokemon I actively despise
Watchog is Lenora’s ace
5000 million Plasma Grunts spamming it with Hypnosis, confuse ray and Super Fang gives me anger issues
Anime did it dirty, in game it’s black dots are its eyes
Wait I thought her ace was retaliate herdier
I need to look this up I’m unova man
Watchog isn't even good as an HM Mule like all the other rodents have the decency of being
Well damn I was wrong
it's just a constant annoyance every time you see a Plasma Grunt while looking super obnoxious
I could’ve sworn it was her herdier who used booster retaliate against me in my fight against her
Watchog might just be my all time least favorite Pokemon cause it just has everything going against it
There are far worse Pokémon
I get you it’s very hard to defend it
Watchog: meerkat fusions, only normal type that gets access to illuminate (combo it with scyther for STAB false swipes with double chances of finding wild Pokémon, in addition to watchogs great level up movepool of confuse ray, sand attack, hypnosis, super fang, mean look, etc.), also has an early level up at level 20 (can be obtained directly after Brock on hard mode with level caps), also brings the names Mr. Hog and Mr. Rat, and the only normal type to naturally learn low kick, and the only pure normal type to learn mean look (see normal ghost wonder guard mean look baton pass strats)
But yeah there’s plenty worse
I understand Watchog is def bottom half of unova tho for sure
I feel like Watchog’s eyes could be used to make some interesting fusions
“Eyes” but yeah I get what you mean, could be some crazy patterns
Hog raidar
no new pokemon day 9
it's always tomorrow
I'm trying to figure out which legendary is going to be the hardest to catch, and tbh I think Rayquaza still takes it
I feel I've played out the "Tomorrow For Sure" Timecard, maybe I should switch it up
Watchog has one of my favorite shinies.
It uhh.. also has Super Fang and Hypnosis for shiny hunting.
Super Fang means recoil moves might not make the target self KO.
Can watchog get False swipe?
I don't think so.
Unfortunate
It's poo but I have my reasons to like it.
Add the Alolan starters next 🙏 or whenever
Maybe tomorrow… maybe
.
What?
Nothing
How much must I beg to get Dragalgae and Clauncher?
I need those bow characters from decidueye
Decidueye and honedge line fusions would have decidueye switching classes lol
Can I play infinite fusions on Mac?
yes through a Windows Emulator like Wine
Thx
hmm wonder when the next reveal will sneak up.
When you’ve given up all hope
I'm holding out hope one of the reveals will be a weird one like Tropius
I love it when they add the weird Pokemon that you forget exist like Bruxish
add my boy kricketune for the delelelewoooooooooop
also music bug
I feel like a Mon like Gulpin/Swalot fits better for left field pick since I have seen absolutely no one mention him
and now you mentioned it so its not gonna get added!
No we’ve def talked about gulpin because it has this prefix
You might be able to do something with this too?
#1284829812912947302 made this greninja fusion
This year at least
I'm betting on Wednesday next week
I don’t even know at this point anymore
Next week as in the week starts on Sunday or Monday?
Monday
Basically in 4 days
Oh ok I thought you just tacked on another 7 days because you were so unconfident in a reveal
I got a heavy feeling that theyre adding legendaries though
Those 2 slots is too specific
to not be a pair of box arts
The kalos reveal was Thursday
If it’s Wednesday in 4 days, that’s 2 weeks minus 1 day from last reveal
If it’s actually biweekly reveals it’s gonna be 2 reveals, like all the UBs plus cosmog line (if they want it done before a halloween rush/reveal)
I dont think it would be cosmog
I could see 474 and 475 being Xy duo, but also could be something like shaymin in both forms
Def not cosmog, not enough slots
I was thinking of Xerneas and Yveltal
No im saying like 474 and 475 are nihilego and guzzlord
Then the other 9+4=13 slots to get us to 500, lunala being 500

They can only fit in so many reveals before October
Nahh i dont think they'll separate it like that
You wouldn’t think

Im thinking of XY legends as speculation
Ok then what are the other 13 slots if we have only 2 reveals? Monkeys plus burmy?
And from previous patterns, I think its going to be Sawsbuck line, Chimecho line, Monkeys. and idk for the other 3
Ngl if he wants to release the new version at november or sooner than we should get more reveals soon
3 stage could be anything so idk zygard
Yeah we should
And we still haven’t

Zygarde 10, Zygarde 50, and Zygarde 100 (different form moment like ultra necrozma)
Zygarde complete would make sense as a good number 500, that or victini
Hell if we get another 30 next year we might be able to say oops all kalos
I have doubts theyll add any of the mythics tbh
So my bets are just
474/475 : XY Legends
488/489: Sawsbuck
490/491: Chimecho
492-497: Monkeys
498-500: Zygarde forms
Tbh I kinda want to replace the monkeys altogether for golisopod or some other cool mons but the memes are too hard to stop now and i lost all hope in countering them 😔
I remember the first time mons were added
and I told frog that I would pay him 5€ to not add the monkeys

Have you paid him?
I still dont see the appeal on Sawsbuck
Deer
Like we already have seasonal fusions with other Grass types
and we have a deer too
and there isnt more to it
Btw Furfrou should be in the customization update
Neither, but like based on the past patterns
If i want to be biased, id picked the tapus
What past patterns?
I got cussed for using psy-spam
I heard that during some events, they hinted about sawsbuck to be hidden easter eggs
When?
I never saw anyone talk about it or anything hinting to it (to the easter eggs)
in #spriter-general
It was the uhh around the before half of the tourneys done around day 3-4 of tourneys or week 2 of the entire 500k event
Chimeco reasoning was just because of Pory changing to chimeco out of the blue 
Nah Chimecho is sick
Monkeys because
I looked around and its cuz of the blitz with the season theme?
like mainly
Problem with the blitz is that the community suggsests the themes
i dont have a reason, its one of those "the more you talk about it, the more probable it is going to happen"
true but still
Ik sawsbuck has like a lot of forms
Meh
If we had a farm blitz should I say that Gogoat is going to get in or?
but i doubt theyll add all 4 because theyre just very similar
It will be 1 form
exactly, which is conviniently 2 slots
The rest is decorative
But as I said many who want to do seasons just make fitting fusions with other grass types that become seasonal
Idk
I think half a new feature isnt that cool for the game
I like Sawsbuck as a Pokemon but for pif it wouldnt be anything new
But it has to get in sooner or later
im just not hyped at all if it does
Maybe its a me thing
Im basing my argument based on what people talk about and not personal preference
if it's my personal preference:
You never saw all the Gogoat talk?
fun list
Definetly a lot of potential
Well I only see you who talks about gogoat. I dont feel like its a common thing. Same goes with the crabominable guy.
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Oh than it was bad timing for you
there are a good amount of people often talk about Gogoat here (im just the loudest and most active) and we also have a whole thread just for Gogoat with many memebers who support it.
Sadly the Goat love attracted some people who activly try to hate on it too tbf
So I understand when it didnt seem like something at all
i am now ascending to the role of 'the crabominable girl'
we need this thing in the game yesterday
The Yeti Crab is nice

If I say next week enough itll happen today 
please let it be today it's been 10 DAYS
what will it take to reveal this damn pokemon
I really want to know the next mon
I cant sell my soul for it
Cuz it already is sold
Idk whats going on RN
What you mean
Oh nothing, its just that there was no announcement as of now.
Guess patience is key.
ye
komala fusions but holding different logs or objects
Komala sounds meh
I mean its definetly a cute Pokemon to use
and big Sleepy Koala heads are fun ig
Something about comatose
https://pokemondb.net/ability/comatose
It can still use its regular moves, but cannot be inflicted with any major status condition (sleep, poison, paralysis, burn, or freeze).
Yeah immunity to toxic, burn, etc. is the biggest selling point
Idk if it’ll be that good in basic gameplay, but in a competitive world with toxic spikes, toxic, t wave, nuzzle, will-o-wisp, yeah it’s very good
The Move Sleep Talk has Regular Priority
Can use any of your other moves at Priorty -1/2-/3-4/ at regular speed. (Whirlwind, Dragon Tail, etc)
It does this because Comatose allows for Komala to ALWAYS be asleep. So they do not have to worry about hitting the move and it failing due to him waking up
so fuse him with a fast mon like ninjask and they can whirlwind your team into rocks and stuff and you can't do jack
I see. . .
Really? I’m on bulbapedia right now and it says sleep talk isn’t there
sorry i actually did my research instead of memory this time
and its Regular prioty, but it allwos moves at negative priority to go at 0 priority
so fast trick rooms is now a thing, so good for doubles
Wait I’m confused, can you give an example?
Oh wait nm I get it
So, like, since sleep talk is 0 priority, it makes a move like revenge go on 0 priority instead of -4
Yeah something like dragon tail, roar, whirlwind would probably be the best to use with it
If I had to guess, I'd say torkoal will be the next mon
Something tells me it will be torkoal
Hoenn bias is a good guess
oh some magma soil for diglett
There is no objectivity in my reasoning
Exactly
Only faith
assuming we get pokemon yearly at some point we wouldn't want new fusiosn potential but less painful mon 
im expecting something out of left field
I know what will be revealed today...||pokemon infinite fusion 2, where you will be able to mantain your team from pif 1, and in this game you explore alola and kalos||
So a unova Mon
perhaps
unrelated but I did some updates to this guy
Is it likcitung or lickilicky? I can never differentiate them
lickilicky
lickitung is the small dude
dw I confused them too while making thsi fusion
If we are comparing it to the blitz week last year (12 slots) these are my guesses
Blitz week: bewear, dhelmise, toxapex, Hawlucha, Cacturne, pallossand, aurorus
58% alola, 25% kalos, 16% hoenn
8 alola slots
4 Kalos slots
3 hoenn slots
Goliso 2
Ribombee 2
Minior 2
Salazzle 2
Slurpuff 2
Xerneas/Yveltal 2
Walrein 3
I can't wait for it to be 15 single stages 
Cant wait to see that all I hope for doesnt get in...
yeah the goat would be great
If just one ultra beast would be added, what would you add?
I have 3 contester : xurkitre , blacephalon and stakataka
all of these have good potentials
probs xurk i think
The squid cuz its the first you encounter in the games
blace got more love here I think
Jellyfish 
mornin
g'night
I wish ma boi luvdisc could get in but won't happen
no alomomola is ugly
Luvdisc is actually so underrated
I love all pokemon but for fusion I find alomomola to be ugly
luvdisc is just a bit too simple
and I like making cute fusions
What do you mean you don't want another fish body 
alomomola is just luvdisc+ tho
Perfect for beginners if you ask me
Its too simple, theres nothing going on there
Not to mention that head fusions could 100% be valentine's day related
diglet tis also simple for beginners but they are all already done
Diglett has the ground to work with
yeahh, give me some more stuff to work with!
yes valentine sprite rush
you can draw luvdisc in 5 seconds, heart, mouth, eye, checks, done
Luvdisc would be the fastest mon to be 100%ed in body fusions
I did severals diglett a day back when diglett wasn't completed so if luvdisc come I'll do the same
also body wise I tried to get creative once so now it's a stapler
heads would also be kinda easy when you think about
oh hey this thing is cursed
thanks , it knows where you live 😄
Luvdisc/delphox would be fire...
Actually it would be water/psychic smh
lmao
wait no
starters only give their primary types I think
cuz bulbasaur always give grass
Thats only the gen1 starters, thought not sure if they changed that in 6.0
Empoleon can give Steel
it is actually fun thinking about what to do with luvdisc bodys and trying to make the desing of a mon so compact it fits in a little heart
You should check out Solosis, I am not biased
I need to make the solosis line for my spritedex
all the small simple mons are already nearing 100 percent so maybe luvdisc wouldnt be so bad?
yes luvdisc would be a great addition
i really hope we get an announcement today
same
True...
who can send me a link to install pokemon infinite fusion
there HAS to be, it's been 10 DAYS since the original announcement and I'm THIS close to looking like a fossil (preferable one of the turtle kind)
yeah like what did frog mean by following weaks wtf
If he wants a goodish amount of sprites until the update he has to reveal a lot
And that in a short amount of time
where is he
dimitri vs. ice type magikarp and a guy named Tim
I think the reveal will be that the international space station will be joining Pokémon infinite fusion
thats a new one, it has good potential for space theme fusions
Yeah, aren’t really any other options that could give really cool space themes
I look forward to it
well there is minior
Who?
Minior, solrock and lunatone, lunala
They just don’t really bring space fusions
Beheeyem too
also the ISS would be a bit hard to do as body for fusions
Like, where are you getting the idea of space from?
Yeah but it brings the unique move space laser which is a 100% accurate OHKO
So I think it’s worth it for competitive
i mean that would be ban on OU so idk
No but it’s got like 5 speed unless you use its signature ability gravitational pull to speed up around a large object like wailord
So it def won’t be banned
Doubles maybe
i also fear it might overlap a bit with magnezone, they are both electric/steel and look like objects
Magnezone looks nothing like an object, it’s obviously just an ordinary magnet
Not even comparable dude
||we are losing our fucking minds waiting for this next reveal||
if we get fossils it'd likely be the full set, not just one
I NEED VIKAVOLT
i.e., if we get turtle we also get birb
I’d be happy if it were unova fossils, they deserve to be in
it has to be today it has to be today it has to be today it has to be today
it'd be a quintuplet soon if the announcement isn't today
hey frogman could be seeing this 
Yeah, if it’s biweekly it’s like, confirmed to be only 2 reveals
if it is today, itll probably be from noon to 6pm in my time at least, rn its 10:30am
Even now it’s 3 since October is 3 weeks away
i hope we get at least a 3 stages line bc i crave some content
I hope it’s closer to noon I have an event tonight
But isnt a 3stager less content in the end
imagine if they start out with the troll pick (illuminise and volbeat)
I'll be genuinely surprised if we don't get a Ghost type revealed at some point in October
Even if not specifically Gourgeist it lines up too well
There’s 3 weeks until October, 3 reveals, it will be Lilligant, unova starters, and fossils
well i said at least, in the best case we get like 3 different line in one go 
what would be a spooky mon for october?
My uncle works at pif and he told me castform is the next reveal
No way
Gourgeist
Yes
is frog your uncle?
well my uncle IS pif and he told me that tirtouga will also be coming next reveal
Nihilego could also work for october if we wanna skip spooky and go for nightmare fuel
I think the next reveal will be Anubis from palworld
oof castfrom is comfirmed to be 4 slots so idk how i would feel
your uncle is a computer game?
are you a human?
i am hexamazon
The next reveal will be grandpa’s rocking chair being added to Pokémon infinite fusion
i really just want to see something
The next reveal will be the squirrel from ice age being added to Pokémon infinite fusion
Help me
Yeah see, great sprite potential already
The reveal will be that the silver surfer is being added to Pokémon infinite fusion
call me crazy, but it think they will add a pokemon
Crazy talk
Absurd
Psychotic even
^see it literally even spells cap 
i can wait got a few runs to do
cap 🧢
That’s it
The newest reveal for Pokémon infinite fusion will be that the hats on Pokémon mechanic will be added as their own dex slot
list
Finally the Russian channel is here
haha dont worry i see in my screen that that channel is still in gray
they got last place and frog is a troll
I don’t like the lack of unova but if it means gettting Lilligant in I accept it
out of the top 5 wich one would be the best?
exca tbh
Goliso is close behind Exca, but I would lean Excadrill
Well obviously I'd say Golisopod
PVP yes
To sprite would be hell (probably)
But... I like salazzle
i could swap slurpuff for crustle or other
the correct answer is #6 which was spheal
Yeah but you can’t say that because curse of pod
round
Right before Gen 9 did orbeetle
Honestly if I could have a bug that would be Orbeetle
you do know vikavolt is actually worse than his previous form
“Allegedly”, frog has lied before
I dont give two cahoots about stats for this one
the ufo?
It is the design
I don’t believe you, vika has next highest non-legend sp atk right
Vikabolt is literally the most mecha of all bugs
That has to count for something
if i could have a new gen mon it would be smoliv
People be telling me nonsense
i imagine if new gen mons were added we would get the evos for old mond first tho
the second stage has higher atk than the final form
There is only two bugs at the top of that vote
grubbin has more speed than vikavolt 
It's better that way
Just get the bug arguments out of the way and add all the gen 5/7 bugs
It respec to be more specialized
Is vika a physical attacker?
we need bugs
Dude with 145 in that Spatk?
Also Vika and Volcarona would be killer special attacker bugs
Hell what the hell happens if you fuse both?
I’m asking his moves, obviously he’s built for sp atk but like gyarados has mostly special moves with higher attack so
vika has 43 speed so it sucks in competitive
is there any world were choice scarf vikavolt has a niche 
but wich of the posible new mon would be fearful with moody ability fusion
In a way yeah
That one looks cool tbh
Absolutly
i think my choice for a new unova mon would be either rockenrolla line or lilligant line
moody sweep
i realised that other than Cresselia, Sinnoh has gotten barely anything since the fusion rework
how many mon get moody as an ability
Sinnoh should get a lil more representation
toxicroac would be awsome
Masquerain
Wurmple
Volbeat illumise
Skorupi
Kricketune
Vespiquen
Burmy
Vivillon
Yeah I don’t think they’re all bad, but we could honestly skip through bugs of all other gens until we get all of 5/7 right?
Cress and technically froslass, but yea
vespiquen is the highlight there
Are Skorupi and Vespiqueen so bad?
I'd like Vespiquen single handlely for the bug type girlboss
They’re not bad ofc, but they’re being compared to the bugs of Gen 5/7
Let’s get those first then we can circle back to Skorupi and vespiquen and such
bird being bullied
Huh?
Why did you give up, it hasn't even been that long since the last reveal. Give it a bit, i'm guessing we'll either get the reveal today, tomorrow or this coming Thursday.
I HATE how I dont manage to get a single good idea for Chesnought and Kommo-o to fuse
surely there’s an announcement today 
Today’s not the day
I hope
We said that the past 2 days though

After today we’ll be closer to next Thursday than last Thursday
It’s his plan don’t give in
He wants us to just accept anything and regret it later
i find this comment funny cause i just watched a reactor watch the first episode of young justice. i heard the word "today's, the day" about 5-6 times < ik you said today's Not the day.
wahoo! you got the monkeys!
lets go exploud!
actually i wouldn’t mind
i would, 2 for the price of 6 smh
what pokemons would you despise?
l*vdisc
although it’s probably gonna get added someday because people hate it 😔
just like br*xish 😔
i’d take monke over luvdisc
monke is funny
yup the mons that have the worst odds are the ones that are middle of the road and no one has strong emotions about them
Guess it depends.
i mean, all jokes aside i'd actually be fine with something like that ngl. esp since what's missing of gen 3 would cover way more than the 15 slots.
Especially the UBs
How on earth can you even fit them all.
Unless 3 UBs at a time.
swanna i think its a great contender for last pokemon to be added
Maybe
we all know who the reveals gonna be huys
idk??? it's a swan, which is unique enough from everything else
castfrom is confirmed to take 4 slots if it got added
I cant unsee the base form's . . . .
Bonkers

i mean yeah but its the most "ok" mon i could think of, like i dont think ive seen anyone that feels any way about it
yeah...
Sounds like a you problem
I know.
its a water molecule not youknowwhat

OVENA
WATER
announcement jsut dropped
↖️ IT COULD BE
woter
Binacle perhaps?
FINALY A ANNOUNCEMENT
no wishiwashi
give us spheal
PLS DONT!
@bitter comet told you not to give up, it's finally here :D
we need ice type
according to this thing i made, there are about 60 water types left, so basically a 1/30 chance tirtouga line could be the mon
Could be Binacle cuz Frogman loves it or Goliso cuz he deserves it
I'm bringin in the reinforcements
Wheres the torkoal gif
it could still be an ice type
is it in 5 hours?
I can also see Relicanth, Perlu or the Pringles jellyfish
my 4th fav type walter
ITS TORKOAL
fire type tirtouga who said that
imagine its primarina lol
i'm crying pringles jellyfish is insane
@molten latch@radiant briar RISE UP IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE SPHEAL since he's half water.
ALSO its at 10 pm so thats something
TEAM SUNDAY FOR LIFE
4th fav type of WHAT
LETS EAT GOOD!
i hope its aquarnid, golisopod or eelectross
wheres my stupid chart i made
Torkoal would be the sickest reveal since its loved and funny
Finally something

Eelektross sounds interesting too
i made a walter white water joke
how long until 4PM EST?
my ccharts
I want my baby so badly.
A little under 4 hours my time
i gotta make a woter chart brb 
I'M SO EXCITED
YES i wont be asleep
4:20 just about i believe
I NEED TO UNLOAD BY MAKING ANOTHER SPRITE
"explore the ocean depths of the Kanto region." We can also expclude quiet some mons cuz of that info
No castform yet 
last year we had a beach and Altaria and Noivern showed up
anything possible
I say nearly all Semi aqauatics are unlikely
Stuff like Seismitoed or Spheal
Thats something diffrent tho
Yeah
It’s a hoenn Mon
Relicanth would be 10/10 imo
We want Map Fish
Relicanth would be fucking PEAK
oh...
LIKE RELICANTH
i hope its completly unrelated to any water mon
spheal
IM A RELICANTH TRUTHER
Good thinking!
Relicanth lets go
Spheal doesnt feel like it would be at the depths
oh yeah those submarine would be nice as fusion ref also there is a submarine in pokemon based of camerupt
What spawns in the depths of Hoeen?
Which ones are deep sea monsters from hoenn?
we're getting an other fish
alright guys place your bets guys
it's the tradition
i can imagine we do all the tour in the ocean and we the submarine comes back up vikavolt is just there in the boat
Crawdaunt
true
Lets go baby!
when is 4Pm EST?
Perlu or Relicanth if its a Hoenn mon!
Lotad, Wingull, Sirkit arent in the water, Spheal isnt deep
in around 4 hours from now
four hours
little more than 4 but yeah
Luvdisc was bottom 5 he wouldnt
i think its 22:00 for you
im betting on spheal
funny thing
How much hours left until 4pm est? I just don't know what time it is for me.
fun fact theres the evo items in the code for clampearl
Those are the only gen 3 mons that are in the Underwater area we dont have
Whiscash, Crawdaunt, Clampearl, Relicanth are the only real options imo
Frogman has been adding bottom 5 pokemon the past few patches
about four!
Its for all mons
oh man , I'll be asleep then 
damn 
So it’s wishcash, Crawdaunt, Clamperl, Relicanth, luvdisc, or Torkoal because of that one gif?
yea
Tbh it could be either
Crawdaunt line
Clampearl line
Luvdisc
Or all of them
Well Wishcash and Crawdaunt are Pond and river Pokemon
Gonna make some speculations
and i found something peticular during debug it was an overworld sprite from one of the sword justice mon but could mean nothing
thats been in the game for YEARS
guys it say: Submarine Explorer 1
i can see Crawdaunt or Relicanth most likely
i dont want Clampearl but it does have 3 new unique mons
So? We already know it’s hoenn because that sub is from hoenn
relicanth is a very serious contender bc of the exploration theme
we LOVEE Relicanth
I dont see Crawdaunt as likely
With all the hints it sounds like its Relicanth or Clamperl
oh I didn't know , to me it impleid there was gonna be more
i see someone should make an paradox sketch triple fusion if the sword of justice gets in
I'd love luvdisc
also for the 3 beast who are already in
No but its likely
also when i think "Depths of Hoenn's Ocean, New Discovery" a Relicanth is what i think of
Well, better start looking at dex entries
Coelacanth are super cool
my list is aquarnid, golisopod and eelectross
Its kanto tho
if they model this after the South African submarine discovery then ill laugh
Isnt the only one of those that is confiremed in deep waters Goliso?
cause the game takes place in kanto
i can dream
Goliso is not deep waters is it?
he did also say "Creatures" it could be multiple
Its known to be found in deep waters cuz of snap
funfact coelacanth got discovered last century only
the Sub could be just the 1 canon submarine in pokemon
wait what if it’s luvdisc 
it has to be golisopod right? like its a water type and the poor guy deserves it
Here's my possibilities
nah
Golisopod and Relicanth would genuinely be hype as hell and the best ending
Yes and no
That they are alive
Because it takes under the oceans
adding luvdisc??
I poorly phrased it
tirtouga crossed out💔💔💔
oh gastrodon would be cool
ntm will you make buff pink heart fish?
Dewpider and Buizel also arent deep waters
hmmm i’m not sure
its just that its dead so it would be weird to see
Oof I forgor
so am i
wait eelektross would be cool
likely: Golisopod
wishingly: Relicanth
Could find the fossil down there
ohh that would be cool
We going back to da fishing hole
i made these 2 charts for What I Want and What I Think Is Likely respectively
?tag fishinghole
No tag fishinghole found.
damn it
Buizel, Spheal and Gastrodon feel unlikely cuz they are near the beach or land
Wishcash, Araquanit and Crawdaunt are Pond and river Pokemon as far as I know
as long as it’s not luvdisc it’s fine 
guys what if it's like the sandygast reveal where it's a bait , so like we get luvdisc , then relicanth and then a good thing
its luvdisc
i doubt Luvdisc
Relicanth is good already
he wouldnt reveal a troll pick 1st
v: but why kanto sea
True, let me eliminate those. Not sure about Spheal.
Luvdisc would be announced as 500th
Cuz we are in a Kanto game
i hope its not related to the ocean in any way and when the tour ends there is just a random pokemon on the surface
cause the game takes place in kanto
because we're in kanto
I mean Spheal is only found on a island aka near land
the launch point could be Johto
why not johto sea
pif is in johto too but yeah we’re in kanto 
but also i know in the actual games, Hoenn, Kanto and Johto are super close to each other
if they get in this should be a triple fusion alt
wait
Crustaceans do live pretty deep underwater iirc so Crawdaunt could be likely
Cuz than we have a Post game mon
Why not sevii islands 
I understand 
But in Hoenn we can find Crawdaunt in Fresh water and nowhere else
I can't wait for the 15 remaining slots to all be water types
Relicanth or Golisopod are my 2 contenders
Kinda hoping for it to be Binacle. Frog mentioned that the line is under appreciated
they never said that all of the15 slots would be water types
if its anything else ill genuinely be surprised
Well guys I would bet those would be golisopod line.
Becose isopods are known to live at the bottom of the sea
Gen 3 Water Types for the most part could make cool fusions
only that the next one is most likely a water type
Idk who is the new pokemon but is not chimecho
for all we know its gonna reveal 2 lines, and totally they take up 2-4 slots
Also I can see it hinting at Golisopod to troll us all and than be something else
and leave the rest to be revealed later
to finally be goli
like how we got baited with palossand reveal
I hope so
Because the remakes?
Here
the water type i like the most is samurott but that’s a starter 😔
I hope it’s not the pod
Clamperl line could make good fusions, like Gorebyss with Milotic and Huntail with Gyarados
Ok but what of it’s TWO fishes
I dont expect Goliso to be added early so my guess is that we get a Goliso bait and after that he reveal Relicanth
we first got altaria and then noivern before it
WHAT THE FUCK
Why

what th-
I forgot Basculin exist and I think he was Freshwater only too
Isn’t this a rule 2?
imagine its Skrelp
I have:
73/131 Water Types (55.73%)
Suck a cute pookie
Why not?
another new dragon added
No it’s just funny

oh that's a maid drawing... maid drawing of my comfort character...
please stop with dragons we have enough already
that’s just water right? 
Obv thats only the list if it happens to be a Water type
There are aquatic pokemont aht arent
no, all the dergins
i mean is not explicit but like wtf
Whiscash is out because it’s only swamps and ponds
Crawdaunt is also out because only ponds
Huntail lives at extreme depths in the sea, this is stated multiple times, same for gorebyss
Relicanth was discovered in deep sea explorations, stated multiple times
Luvdisc is out because it lives in shallow warm seas
Torkoal because of the one popular sinking gif
That is true, 1,500 ft isn't as deep as it acutally sounds, esp when subs can go 5-6k meters max, under water
Dont say Golisopod is a land creature.
It’s Huntail, Relicanth, or Torkoal
Pretty sure the only left (non legend) is the skrelp line right?
So Luvdisc is out too
drampa too
i want it to be vikavolt and we just see it dead underwater
couldn't a load of those be caught from fishing?
still it's right on the range that spheal could still be possible, even if ever so slightly
Druddigon Drampa turtonator
Oh right
could be clampearl, you can only find it in the surf areas. and those are deep
Yes but game mechanics and dex entries are different I think
wait it’d be so funny if it ends up having nothing to do with water
I hope we get the crayfish but it’s unlikely
Why no carracosta
also Barboach was in caves in RSE
I expect one of those 3
Torkoal is a meme Pokemon and Hero suggsested many times to do such a troll in the announcement and game
Not deep sea though
THATS WHAT IM SAYING i bet they do that
I want more bug types
guys ping me if luvdissc gets added ok
Extinct
Not enough imo
as I'll be sleeping
Crawdaunt isn’t bug
Because its a fossil
we need more buggers
He did say he would do everything in his power to get Torkoal as the next one, ignoring starters and votes, this would be it
bugs 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
Turtles live a long time
not stopping me
THE POWER OF NECROMANCY, GOOO
True
I didn't say I wanted crawdaunt
No but I did 
also how is the tour going to be
will it be a video or what?
I wished frog revealed on saturdays instead
Stream
I kinda want Clamperl
It could be a fossil buried underwater tho
I think
I mean obv they could just fuse a mon and say thats why it is that deep but yeah
You mean literally a bone or a living pokemon
Wouldnt the fossil be found in a mountain or desert?
but like are they going to stream an animation?
since those were oceans at one point
I just want vikkavolt and golisopod
It’s Huntail, Relicanth, or Torkoal, my final prediction, I hope it’s a left field thing like jellicent or Eelektross, but I doubt it
See ya
vikavolt plsss
But if it would be torcoal I would laugh my ass.
i dunno i’m not a paleontologist
@molten latch just want to say we can still grasp at spheal straws since walrus's can dive 1.5k below water as it's been documented. they just prefer to stay in shallow water and tend to hunt in the 300 ft zone for food.
its blue so it has a chance (?)
so we're getting relicanth huh
If it isnt Hoenn I can see Pringles jellyfish but not Eelektross
why does everyone think it's a Gen 3 mon?
bcoz diving mechanic was introduced there
True
because it’s shedinja they’re asding shedinja
Yeah but I thought Eelektross said something about deep sea prey
Is there something like that water one but with bugs?
cuz the submarine name is from gen 3
Oh no I meant cuz Mountains and deserts were Oceans back than
because gen 3 is best gen
is not really guaranteed to be relicanth
ohhhh
Golisopod
but can’t there be fossils underwater tho?
But arent all his animal inspos fresh water stuff
am i dumb
relicanth is in the game but inaccessible 
Nuh uh, gen 5 or 7
Obv they can be
we just needed to breack a rock 
but it wouldnt make too much sense to find at all
No, he’s an eel. Just checked eelektross does live in the oceans, but doesn’t say anything about deep oceans, so it’s out
^ this, @fallen loom it might be traveling in kanto but we have all kanto pokemon, so the gen 3 sub name easter egg is what we're basing it on.
Oh okay
what if there isnt any new mon and this is just a big troll 
3 5 and 7 
clearly it's barbaracle 😌
I was unsure if he is a ocean animal since he takes inspos by many fresh water long boys
So we are diving deeper than before? We getting Clamperl line maybe?
Gen 3 has quite a few Water Types that could make cool fusions
turns out to be part of an upcoming sea themed contest and not a reveal, i'd cry. lol
im afraid thats a very real possibility
I mean Relicanth is sick
Maybe frog just want to introduce submarine dives
Do sea horses live under the ocean
I genuinely fear a Barbaracle machamp fusion
Unfortunately our best guesses are Relicanth, Clamperl, or Torkoal
And he is the most likely boy atm imo
Finneon possible?
wait
Golisopod....
yeah idk why it wouldnt
actually, I think it's Manaphy
One could even say Gen 3 has... Too Much Water?
they’re gonna re-add a kanto pokemon 
There’s no way they’re revealing a mythical this early I’m sorry
Maybe
and i'd point and laugh
wiglett 
cmon guys we are getting Carbink under the sea 
Kyogre 2: Aquatic Boogaloo
No way
primal kyogre
they're obviously adding the hoenn region
what if we're all wrong and its seviper 
wait guys minior fell off a mountain and it’s underwater now 
it was revealed to me in a dream
Hope not
We all know its a submarin controlled by a knock off X box controller
TRUE
Manaphy is a useless fuck that should be put to sleep

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@low dock You can see i'm grasping at straws here. hoping the obvious Clamperl reveal is actually Spheal lol. Can't wait to make some huntail, yeah I see through Frog's submarine charade, it's def Clamperl. 🐸
I'm down for Manaphy, but that would also mean Phione sadly
guys guys it's actually a hoopa that gonna teleport t he submarine out of water 
we think its a starfish but its actually minior
Its Obviously Heatran
minior is just down there after sinking and drowning
its gona be Wishiwashi isnt it
funnier , a minior crash onto the submarine so we get both minior and an other ghost type
we’re getting dead minior
Guys cmon its gonna be Eternatus, we are getting Gen8
Im afraid so. . .
ngl, that also sounds reasonable!
Very unlikely
Wishiwashi would be funny because it's super tied to it's ability
regional ghost type minior 
kantonian minior idk 
Want a badass Wishiwashi without being held back by Schooling? Enjoy stats worse than Sunkern!
frog's own fakemon 😌
I think it should be Mewtwo, again
mewthree
Guys u all just fools
It obviously would be an ice type magicarp
Guys I know a deep sea creature that would be a actual suprise
Could be:
Manaphy/Phione
Clamperl
Relicanth
Torkoal
Finneon
Skrelp
Tirtouga
Tynamo
Frillish
Clauncher
this is great, now i have something to look forward today!
Clafairy as Mewtwo
let’s goooo 
Torkoal 
And a triple fusions that be mewthree!
mewfour

