pif-hoenn-discussion

[humble lance]

hell yeah amogus rush

[fathom ridge]

Gothitelle would be emo gardevoir imo

[stuck bane]

Mienshao isn’t a counterpart

[steel meadow]

how tf is amoongus pride

[deft obsidian]

For real

[ember bear]

mehhhh

[stuck bane]

Druddigon is the final dragon from unova tho

[humble lance]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAGh2aVcqs

[stuck bane]

Idk I think wolfey made a vid and people ran with it

[fathom ridge]

We don’t need all unova dragons tbh

[ember bear]

what is minccino even the counterpart for

[steel meadow]

How did i miss this

I watch like 90% of wolfey's bideos

[stuck bane]

Minccino is an overworld Mon, like petilil and musharna

[fathom ridge]

Give me a short version of this story pls I need to know

[deft obsidian]

Snorlax

[humble lance]

• amoonguss is very popular in competitive because its a good bulky pokemon with access to spore which has 100% chance of putting pokemon to sleep
• wolfe glick is a veteran competitive player who used amoonguss against this newcomer named neil
• neil was openly transphobic in some discord messages, calling transgender people mentally ill
• wolfe glick and neils teams are exactly the same except wolfe glick brought amoonguss
• amoonguss NARROWLY takes down urshifu after it woke up in one turn twice and amoonguss survived in the red
• neil leaves the competitive scene and apologized for his transphobic message

[deft obsidian]

Strong normal type you get early game with mono normal

[ember bear]

is another normal really needed tho

[stuck bane]

With skill link hell yeah, it also gets some good moves

[steel meadow]

I dont know i feel like we're lacking fun normal types but maybe my brain is fried

[fathom ridge]

Amoonguss is a real one

[humble lance]

amoonguss is a real one

[steel meadow]

Wolfey is a real one aswell.

[fathom ridge]

I love wolfey’s videos they are very fun

[stuck bane]

Amoonguss is at least a trans ally then

[humble lance]

hell yeah

[steel meadow]

You should use this for propaganda so u get another unova pokemon in the game

[fathom ridge]

Amoonguss is part of the crew, a crewmate if you will

[steel meadow]

sus

[stuck bane]

Who do you take me for?

Amoongus: gets regenerator, adds more grass types, if picked 100%’s all the poison types from unova, and is a team rocket Mon, and is the only poison type that can naturally learn effect spore, also makes for good overworld pokeball encounters, we can also get Mr. Gus from foongus, and it’s the only poison type body with access to astonish naturally, it can also bring fusions of Pokémon being disguised as pokeballs or other interactable items, and it is the only grass type to naturally learn clear smog, and the only poison type body with access to feint attack. Also he will make funny faces on head fusions, and has boxing blocker pokeball hands. Amoongus is also apparently a trans icon and if you don’t vote for it you’re as transphobic as J.K. Rowling.

[humble lance]

mons that would be awesome for next years pride month rush:

• amogus (trans)
• delcatty (intersex)
• minior (gay)

[fathom ridge]

Ammonguss would realistically just be used for amongus references tbh

[humble lance]

nya

[clear lichen]

Amoonguss would be massive for competitive

[steel meadow]

Yeah amoongus would make for some awful joke sprites

[stuck bane]

Add heatran because Tran suffix

[weak trellis]

and more pokeball jokes that voltorb/electrode already covered

[clear lichen]

Regenerator, Spore and good bulk

[stuck bane]

Amoonguss also is the last poison type from unova so

[clear lichen]

Though weirdly its bulk isn't exactly extremely high

[weak trellis]

it's just that regenerator is batshit insane in singles

[clear lichen]

It has great HP but both of its offences are higher than both of its defences

But yeah Regenerator is insane

[fathom ridge]

If Minior got in that would be awesome, the rock shell and shiny interior has so much potential

[steel meadow]

This always confused me. It doesnt look that bulky on paper but that thing is unkillable so often

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-dance-dance-among-us-purple-sus-gif-11799252726647481946

[weak trellis]

designed with doubles in mind, in singles even just 10% heal would be good lol

[stuck bane]

Mr. Gus from foongus

[fathom ridge]

Is there a vgc format in the IF showdown?

[weak trellis]

33% feels like something you're intended to only proc once or twice in a match

[deft obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/gustavo-gif-9332188863397736801

[weak trellis]

instead of "every 2-3 turns"

also late but delcatty gives us normalize.

[ember bear]

just watch them nerf it in the next gen (and then introduce something even more broken)

[steel meadow]

Is normalize good?

[deft obsidian]

No

[steel meadow]

I always think of it as one of the worst abilities

[ember bear]

when you opponent has it yes

[weak trellis]

opening up a new world of cheese

[deft obsidian]

It is

[steel meadow]

The cheese isnt worth it

[weak trellis]

gen 7 did technically buff it to be an "-ate" ability but

[deft obsidian]

Because you can't touch ghost types

[weak trellis]

normalate itself is a dubious concept even with the boost

[ember bear]

as one (normalize and scrappy) when

[weak trellis]

mind's eye but with normalize instead of keen eye

[ember bear]

would be pretty funny if fusion combined abilities

[deft obsidian]

No matter how much boost, you will lose all your coverage

[weak trellis]

I would love those as persian alts though

[steel meadow]

moxie + speedboost

[deft obsidian]

There is mismagius/Persian with delcatty alt

[weak trellis]

gameplay wise that's actually delcatty's main issue is that normalize aside it's way too similar to persian and purugly

have Hof'ed with that alt before, was good

[steel meadow]

flashback to when i forgot glameow and delcatty existed and thought the line was skitty -> purugly

[deft obsidian]

Before I download this game I thought fusions has 2 types ability because they are combine of 2 pokemon but it wasn't like that

[weak trellis]

tbh purugly's stats feel like persian if it wasn't designed around gen 1 normal mechanics like slash and decisive strike hyper beam rofl

[steel meadow]

what so u thought like giratina/torterra would be Grass/Ground/Ghost/dragon?!?

[deft obsidian]

I meant ability sorry

[steel meadow]

oh

that would be so cool if it worked like that

[silent acorn]

Dual abilities would be neat

Just two

Not 4

Just 2

Imagine you mix weird abilities

[steel meadow]

It would definetly break competetive

[ember bear]

grass ground flying dragon fusions just instadying to ice

[silent acorn]

Screw competitive

[steel meadow]

For casual playthroughs it would be so much fun tho.

[grave jolt]

Wonderguard/Flashfire

[silent acorn]

We could mod it for casual

Competitive folks can keep their purism

I wanna use hustle keen eye

[steel meadow]

Competetive could just ban it and we get a mode called something funky

[silent acorn]

FUSIOABLE

[ember bear]

also fire bug flying dying to switch in because of funny rocks

[silent acorn]

Let's theorycraft on this

And then we could mod

[deft obsidian]

That will be huge nerf for slaking

[silent acorn]

Lemme imagine a funny combo

[steel meadow]

Does prankster make quiverdance priority?

[grave jolt]

Regenerator/Natural Cure

[silent acorn]

Ultimate heal

Ultimate tank

[ember bear]

magic guard/wonder guard

[silent acorn]

Imagine if it were posible, imagine people suffering because toxic doesn't kill as much

[grave jolt]

"I can damage your healing!"
"Not when I shift into MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE!"

[silent acorn]

Lemme check for sum mixes

[stuck bane]

Does regenerator regenerator heal 66% of your hp ?

[simple gulch]

:v is this read able?

[deft obsidian]

The only thing can defeat this creature is mold Breaker

[steel meadow]

Im struggling. I see carbonk/weedle

[silent acorn]

Skill link/Stench

[stuck bane]

Kid named turbo blaze and his brother teravolt

[silent acorn]

As vanillite maybe

[ember bear]

huge power/pure power

[grave jolt]

or a single dark type move

[full bison]

Simple/Speed Boost

[silent acorn]

Good question do they stack?

[silent acorn]

Maximum Tsundere Simple/Moody

[steel meadow]

hugepower triage if we get comfey for that priority drain punch

[grave jolt]

Moody/Simple

[silent acorn]

Gotcha

[deft obsidian]

Bug steel exist also dark ghost

[simple gulch]

seer force huge power

[silent acorn]

OOOOH

[grave jolt]

bidioof self fusion

[deft obsidian]

Sheer force/serena grace

[ember bear]

protean/adaptability

[grave jolt]

Only pokemon that gets Magic Guard are psychic, fairy, and normal types.

[full bison]

Drizzle/Swift Swim

[steel meadow]

Man that reminds me we get a better protean user now

[grave jolt]

Pixilate/Adaptability

[silent acorn]

Intimidate/Shadowtag

[humble lance]

alternate completionism proposal:

[silent acorn]

Eh depends on froggo.

[grave jolt]

Frog hates regional forms

[deft obsidian]

No way

[silent acorn]

Anyway back to dual abilities theorycrafting

[steel meadow]

Arent they already fusions kinda?

[deft obsidian]

Rough skin/iron thorns

[silent acorn]

Hustle/Synchronize

Hehe

[humble lance]

let them exist as an ice/fire type

[full bison]

Aftermath/Innards Out

[silent acorn]

THE DAMAGE OOF

[steel meadow]

Shadow tag/Wonder guard

• perish song

[grave jolt]

Drizzle/Drought

[full bison]

Filter/Solid Rock, no more weaknesses

[steel meadow]

Stance change + Stamina

[silent acorn]

Sand force/Sandstream

Gaara no jutsu

[grave jolt]

Would Drizzle/Drought/Airlock have a unique effect

[steel meadow]

drought/clorophyll or whatever the speedy sun ability is called

[full bison]

Drizzle/Electric Surge, Thunder go BRRRR

[steel meadow]

only sunflora gets it

[deft obsidian]

There is pokemon game called emblem redux, each pokemon can have 3 or 4 ability at same time, I used aurorus with this ability combo and I must say natural moves cost more damage than " super effective "

[silent acorn]

Shame Plus and minus only works with an ally

Imagine stacking them on the same pokemon

[trail hull]

Alolan forms could be nice even if the bodies are hard we already have to feel with pirouette so while I don’t want to see them this update it could be great

[silent acorn]

Emerald elite redux

[grave jolt]

Simple: Get two of them

Plusle/Minun and Minun/Plusle

[silent acorn]

OOF

[steel meadow]

Parental bond/anything

[silent acorn]

Guts/marvel scale

[grave jolt]

Speedboost/Simple

[deft obsidian]

Only mega kangaskhan can get it?

[full bison]

Defiant/Moody

[steel meadow]

Toxic heal + regenerator

[steel meadow]

new ability for mantine

[deft obsidian]

Magnet pull/ speed boost

[grave jolt]

Give it to Blissey too

[steel meadow]

Blissey has a child?

oh egg

[full bison]

Specifically Parental Bond/Serene Grace for maximum Air Slash suffering

[grave jolt]

Parental Bond/Parental Bond

[silent acorn]

Does confusion count for guts?

[steel meadow]

idk if we're cooking or ruining pokemon

[silent acorn]

Cooking

[deft obsidian]

Cooking

[silent acorn]

Doing what few think to do

[grave jolt]

Parental Bond/Parental Bond with Population Bomb

[steel meadow]

power up punch

[deft obsidian]

It's takes a hour or more to next turn

[silent acorn]

Harvest/Unburden - Stat berry or sitrus

[grave jolt]

you get hit 30 times

[steel meadow]

thats hot

[grave jolt]

with stab

[full bison]

Unnerfed Gale WIngs/Aerilate

[molten loom]

We're either cooking or setting the kitchen on fire

[ember bear]

water bubble drizzle

[grave jolt]

god I wish we could have Population Bomb in this game 😔

[prime dust]

gamefreak already set the kitchen on fire

[steel meadow]

holy kyogre would blast you off the screen

[prime dust]

we're either putting it out, or adding gas

[silent acorn]

That moment when Dry skin with Heatproof

Or thick fat

[ember bear]

flash fire?

[silent acorn]

Yes

[steel meadow]

double immunities would be really nice on some mons

like thick fat levitate eelektross snorlax or something

[grave jolt]

Mousehold gets technician

[steel meadow]

slow start/truant

[deft obsidian]

Technician/iron first
Mach Punch/bullet Punch sweeper

[grave jolt]

Honestly, it would be fun to get population bomb into the game somehow.

[marble meadow]

hmm i wonder wich mon would make walter white or the name walter

[ember bear]

truant/truant just softlocks you

wait you can still do other actions nvm

[deft obsidian]

Walrein/gengar pre evolve?

[full bison]

I could see gen 8/9 moves being added as the Move Expert loses more and more exclusive moves to teach

[grave jolt]

You can also be attacked

[ember bear]

both pokemon have it and can't flee from trainer battles 🔥

[simple gulch]

no guard hustle

[full bison]

Adaptability/Tinted Lens, the ultimate Choice Item build

[silent acorn]

HAHAHAHA

[deft obsidian]

U turn spam

[grave jolt]

Battle Armor/Shell Armor

[inland jewel]

that would require having the data for those moves to begin with

[steel meadow]

How long do you think we have untill the new pokemon are in?

[grave jolt]

Months

[steel meadow]

I just got inspired to start a new run

[inland jewel]

They said November at the latest

[simple gulch]

after contets

[silent acorn]

I dont know how useful it be since they just flat out cancel criticals

[grave jolt]

They said hopefully November at the latest

[inland jewel]

but if the other 15 mons aren't revealed soon then its going to be November at the earliest

[steel meadow]

I suppose i could start that run now

[silent acorn]

I'd wait

[steel meadow]

November is far

[velvet root]

I expect late october if we get all reveals this month
else its November (or they make a extra sprite pack)

[inland jewel]

the exact wording is. "The update will be out by November, but hopefully we can get it earier"

[grave jolt]

November is 2 months

[steel meadow]

I just realised i havent used breloom in this game

[inland jewel]

so by November the mons will definitely be in

[steel meadow]

And i want to use him right now.

[inland jewel]

Pokeradar in the forest my guy, unless you're doing Remix

[full bison]

Unless the 15 reveals are all at once because they're the Ultra Beasts and Cosmog Line! Totally no Copium here

[grave jolt]

"Hey guys we're delaying the update until Christmas. In the meantime, Sprite Pack!"

[steel meadow]

I will. In my new run

[deft obsidian]

11 ultra beasts + 4 tapus

[inland jewel]

yee, when the new update drops ima do a new 100% run

so i can have the data necessary to help people

[ivory rune]

make sure to wait five years for your shroomish to get to level 40 for spore

[steel meadow]

I dont use spore on it anyways

[grave jolt]

Nah, race the Devs to get the 100% before the update releases 😎

[steel meadow]

I use my shroom to punch things

[silent acorn]

It's an attacker anyway

[steel meadow]

Spore is turbo broken tho but its just not fun

[ember bear]

spore for ice when

would be really funny

[steel meadow]

I just mentioned poison heal and really wanted to fuse a fun poison heal user for breloom

[ivory rune]

true spore is definitely busted

[full bison]

I'm surprised we don't have any moves that just freeze yet

[steel meadow]

That would be insanely frustrating

[full bison]

I get it's a busted status, but so is sleep

[steel meadow]

Freeze is such a horrible mechanic

[ember bear]

(probably because freeze is even more annoying than sleep)

[ivory rune]

freeze is even worse than sleep iirc

[ember bear]

sleep is kinda guaranteed after a few turns

freeze is just random

[steel meadow]

I recall being frozen for 9 turns in one of my nuzlockes.

[ivory rune]

I think freeze does have a turn limit in newer gens

[ember bear]

maximum of 3 turns for sleep

[ivory rune]

oh my god it doesnt

[grave jolt]

Behold, the ideal spore setter

[ivory rune]

its just 20% per turn or get hit by a fire move

[steel meadow]

this was my spore setter in my first run

[ember bear]

oh right

prankster

[ivory rune]

evil

[inland jewel]

Sleep at least says: Wakes up after 2 turns. Freeze is 30% Chance to thaw lol

so while You know when you're gonna leave sleep. you don't know when to leave freeze

[ember bear]

20%

[inland jewel]

which is why for balance reasons they don't have an Auto freeze move

[grave jolt]

Question is: Is there any way to guarantee Freeze?

[inland jewel]

no

[full bison]

nope

[inland jewel]

which is why Freeze is balanced

[ivory rune]

moves can only have a 10% freeze chance iirc

[steel meadow]

Im going to post my two HOF just because

[inland jewel]

There are some with 20% chance to freeze

and none of them are on serene grace mons

[ivory rune]

so only with fusions you could get a 40% chance with serene grace

[ember bear]

they are all 10%

only secret power has 30% but that's only if you use it on a icy terrain

[ivory rune]

oh yeah it is

so in that case the highest chance would be Serene Grace Blizzard with Hail in a double battle

20% for both opponents

[inland jewel]

thats where i got the 20% from lmoa, but i was like, theres no way its 30%

[simple gulch]

where my goat?

[steel meadow]

Im sorry for not using it

It was put into my game i just didnt get to using it

Not enough goats died-

let me show death box too

[grave jolt]

Togekiss can get Serene Grace and Secret Power

so can dunsparce

[inland jewel]

does it get ice terrain though?

[steel meadow]

The lvl 38's were all to Koga smh

[ember bear]

there is no ice "terrain"

[grave jolt]

ice terrain isn't a move, it's where you're battling.

[ember bear]

it's just that the battlefield has to be on a icy place to begin with

[ivory rune]

hail only benefits Blizzard because it increases its accuracy from 70 to 100%

oh wait icy terrain nvm

[grave jolt]

Unfortunately, Most people in certain terrain have pokemon related to that area.
Most people in the only icy location in pokemon IF with trainers have Ice types, which are immune to being frozen.

Honestly, there should be an Icy Terain effect.

[inland jewel]

in randomizer that isn't so much a problem

[grave jolt]

With an ability that spreads it called something like Freezing Surge

[ember bear]

stealth ice that freezes on switch

tbh ice already gets hail, idk if they would make a terrain for a type that has already weather

[grave jolt]

I'd make them more like stealth rocks rather than toxic spikes

[clear lichen]

I would commit unspeakable crimes

[ivory rune]

I remember a game based on pokemon that had icicles as a stealth rock replacement, they deal ice type damage and are absorbed if a fire type switches in

[clear lichen]

Stealth Ice should not exist

Stealth Rocks is more than enough

[grave jolt]

Icy Web

[clear lichen]

And as if it wasn't already more than enough

Spikes existed before that

[ivory rune]

ice wasn't as strong offensively in that game though so it probably wouldn't be nearly as balanced in pokemon

[clear lichen]

This game does not need more hazards

[ivory rune]

true

[clear lichen]

If anything it needs more hazard removal

[grave jolt]

Key thing is that most Stealth/Spikes setters wouldn't be able to learn Stealth Ice.

[clear lichen]

Instead they're heavily cutting back on hazard removal

A lot of mons are losing Defog

[grave jolt]

Good as Gold being banned

[clear lichen]

We'll see if that's necessary after the many more obnoxious things get banned

[ivory rune]

new team style, literally just six magic guard mons

[clear lichen]

The general consensus is that Gholdengo, at least currently, isn't anywhere close to the most broken Pokemon

[clear lichen]

Funnily enough, when Spikes were the only hazard, things like that were done

By using only mons with Flying type or Levitate

If you couldn't tell, Spikes were already extremely influential

[ember bear]

full hdb team

[grave jolt]

"Hey this fucker is using HDB instead of Magic Guard!"
uses Toxic

[clear lichen]

Of all the top tier items that exist, HDB is probably the one I'd be most willing to run a team only using it

[ember bear]

https://preview.redd.it/f945ktwbzdk91.jpg?auto=webp&s=46530ed63fbe449e02c0d1d9f9434a743c59793a

[grave jolt]

Stall be eating good today 😌

[ivory rune]

yeah, but gen 3 OU is different because enough pokemon and strategies are viable that it just works somehow

[clear lichen]

Yeah but undeniably, Spikes immunity is a big reason why they're viable

They'd still be good either ways usually tbf

Stealth Rocks was meant to punish those mons

But big names like Skarmory and Gengar don't mind it too much

And Flygon is one of the least affected by it

[grave jolt]

I like hazards because they keep low HP but very high offence mons in check.

[clear lichen]

Meanwhile, Bug and Fire types can now lose 50% of their HP on switch-in

Stealth Rocks failed at its job

But it sure as hell fulfilled another

[grave jolt]

Add Stealth Ice and bugs now lose 75%

[clear lichen]

... Bug isn't weak to Ice

[grave jolt]

is it not?

owwie

[clear lichen]

It's "only" weak to Rock, Fire and Flying

AKA some of the worst weaknesses to have

[marble meadow]

theres also the fear strat

[clear lichen]

But the number itself isn't very high tbf

[clear lichen]

FEAR has too much working against it to be viable

Hazards are just the tip of the iceberg

My brain is not working rn sorry

👍

Minor spelling mistake

I lose

[marble meadow]

bro imagine gettin sweep by smeargle

[grave jolt]

Stealth Ice would limit some really good types though

[clear lichen]

It probably would have be better at punishing Spikes immune mons than Stealth Rocks honestly

Since it is actually 4× SE against Flygon

Still not good at it though, Skarmory is still neutral

[ember bear]

stealth fire

[clear lichen]

Bug types stay losing

I think the issue here is that you always drag down another type that may not even deserve to be dragged down

Unless you make it specifically target flying types/Levitate mons

That said, a world where Volcarona isn't held back by Stealth Rocks is terrifying

[grave jolt]

Fly Catcher that only hits flying types

[clear lichen]

I wonder if Volcarona was designed around Stealth Rocks

[marble meadow]

anouncment this saturday or sunday?

[steel meadow]

my guess is still friday

[inland jewel]

My guess, one week after the last announcement

[steel meadow]

that would be tomorrow in my timezone

[clear lichen]

I dont have a guess

[marble meadow]

could be more or so to get enough sprites done

[grave jolt]

Friday, EST

[inland jewel]

well i say guess, but based on past precedent thats how they normally announced things

allowe a pokemon a week to shine and then bam new mon

[clear lichen]

Anyways TLDR: Stealth Icicles are a terrible idea no matter how you implement it

[inland jewel]

it also doesn't force spriters to abandon old projects in favor of the new mon that dropped

[clear lichen]

Freeze on switch-in 💀

[ember bear]

yeah i just wanted to mess with people

ik that freeze is broken lmao

[rain locust]

can optimize it p well in if though

oops didnt reply

[rain locust]

reply to this

[grave jolt]

I'mma say it; I'm still not a fan of the Carbink fusions.

[clear lichen]

The thing I dislike about freeze the most is that it feels like either you thaw in one turn or don't thaw after 60

[full bison]

Isn't there a fangame that has an entry hazard that paralyzes on switch in? That sounds annoying enough, freeze is overkill

[rain locust]

insurgence

[clear lichen]

That first mf thinks they're a Cottonee

Actually both of these have Leech Seed

So nvm

[full bison]

Steel/Grass Cottonee sounds like a nightmare

[clear lichen]

They both think they're Cottonee

[rain locust]

leech endeavor quite good

[grave jolt]

Tri-Spikes; a normal type hazard that has a 30% chance to Freeze, Burn, or Paralyze pokemon switching in.

[clear lichen]

Simply Leech Seed and wait for your opponent to either stay in like a dolt or swap out, then you hit it with Leech Seed again

Ignore the multi hit moves, Grass types, hazards, status etc

Tbf this is more optimised than any existing level 1 strat

[rain locust]

you can block hazards and status with bounce at least

[clear lichen]

Mostly because existing level 1 strats are pathetically bad

[full bison]

I gotta ask: aside from Swoobat, Araquanid, the Tapus, and the UBs, which potential new entry would break the meta hardest?

[steel meadow]

comfey?

[clear lichen]

A legendary /j

Comfey giving Triage shouldn't be too hilariously broken since unlike something like AAA, you partially have the stats of a comfey

[grave jolt]

Malmetal maybe

[steel meadow]

comfey as body with something that gives it a bigger health pool would make for a insane wall

[rain locust]

fuse with amph to get tail glow and kill everything

[clear lichen]

DiB is scary

[rain locust]

dib already banned

[clear lichen]

Oh fr?

Great

[rain locust]

bc you could get it from like

jirachi ambipom

[clear lichen]

Wait but if Melmetal is the only user wouldn't they just ban Melmetal

[rain locust]

or ambipom scizor

[rain locust]

yeah

[clear lichen]

I'd assume they'd remove DiB from the expert move list when Melmetal gets in

[grave jolt]

the true option is incin

[clear lichen]

I doubt that, Incineroar has a terrible record in Singles

[steel meadow]

bro who came up with making the toxic orb this stupid to get.

[full bison]

The scariest Singles starter is being added already: Greninja

[steel meadow]

ive spent 20 minutes sleeping outside this bi--- house just for her to give it to me

[grave jolt]

Yk what, Pachirisu will be the scariest!/j

[clear lichen]

I mean, Mega Blaze is scarier but mega lmao

[rain locust]

i wish megas existed

[clear lichen]

And there is absolutely 0 way Mega Blaziken wouldn't be banned in an instant

[rain locust]

itd be sick

[clear lichen]

Same

[ember bear]

mega diancie 🔥

[clear lichen]

You can't destroy a meta if you aren't allowed into the meta

[grave jolt]

I also wish megas existed

[ember bear]

ik there are better megas but i just like how diancie looks

[grave jolt]

Mega Swampert is the only member of the mudkip line I like

[full bison]

Is Speed Boost even legal? Seems like there's way too many combos that abuse it, basically any Psychic type fused with a Speed Boost mon becomes an Espathra

[clear lichen]

Tbf Diancie is definitely up there if we don't look at Ubers

[grave jolt]

No it is not iirc

[clear lichen]

Probably not but it's Mega Blaziken's only ability

So banned anyways

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/kartana-rules-of-nature-ultra-sun-and-ultra-moon-metal-gear-rising-naganadel-gif-27083493

[rain locust]

banned

[grave jolt]

Just do a mega fusion with the ability not being blaizekins

[clear lichen]

Ah right

[full bison]

I genuinely have no idea what Gamefreak was thinking with Speed Boost

[clear lichen]

Cinderace is probably more broken than Greninja but we can't compare them directly

[steel meadow]

Speed boost is kinda balanced on the mons that gets it.

[grave jolt]

It was a reward for preordering X&Y

[clear lichen]

Well, not at the peak of Protean and Libero

[full bison]

On ninjask, fine the thing's already stupid fast and it's frailty balances it a bit

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/scolipede-pokemon-pokemon-x-pokemon-y-happy-gif-24763655

[rain locust]

no i think gren is better bc special protean is more impressive than physical

[clear lichen]

This is hard to compare

Since currently Cinderace is better

[full bison]

On Blaziken or Espathra it's just stupid

Especially Espathra

[rigid bear]

yo is there any chance of golisopod getting added or is it a myth

[clear lichen]

But they nerfed Protean and Libero

And otherwise we don't really have a way to compare them

[marble meadow]

Naganadel beedril Fusion would be lit

[stuck bane]

There’s a chance but it’s a lie since Golisopod is cursed

[rigid bear]

https://tenor.com/view/wes-fall-to-knees-scream-gif-27602552

[full bison]

Naganadel fusions turning the host body upside-down would be an interesting test for how spriters can work with twists to anatomy

[rain locust]

cinderace suffers from relatively low atk so you cant improve on it much considering it has to be body for the speed

[grave jolt]

I want Gali in so the NGS voters are happy

[rain locust]

gren can be body fused with a head like hydreigon

[grave jolt]

Protean Slaking

[clear lichen]

Greninja's SpA is also kinda shit but I see where you're coming from because yknow, fusion metagame

I somehow doubt either would be allowed

[marble meadow]

I Wonder how blacepholon fusions would work

[clear lichen]

As in, in Competitive or just from a design perspective?

[rain locust]

gren is already in showdown but not enough battles to gauge

[marble meadow]

design wise

[full bison]

Naganadel/Hitmontop would be fun considering both of their upside-down-ness

[clear lichen]

Well idk I'm not a spriter lol

[full bison]

Part of me wants Gren to stay purely because Cloyster/Greninja Skill Link Water Shuriken sounds super fun

[ember bear]

75 bp prio move 🔥

[marble meadow]

Blacephalon gourgeist is fire

[ember bear]

balling

such mindblowing designs

[full bison]

Detatchable heads and the clown motif seem a lot more flexible than one would think

[grave jolt]

Fast as fuck boi

Grenjask should def have speed lines coming off it

[full bison]

The UB I'm most worried about for spriting is Nihilego because I'm concerned a bunch of the Head fusions would just be Motherbeast references.

[stuck bane]

Could be easy to sprite, just have the nihilego head on top of the Pokémon you’re spriting

But I’d still love to see those fusions

[steel meadow]

Someone pointed out celesteela as a worrysome ub aswell

[ember bear]

rocket

[stuck bane]

Sprite wise I think people said most/ all UBs are problematic

Competitive wise I think like 5 UBs won’t be instantly banned

The only ones who love all UBs? Nuzlockers

[full bison]

Pheromosa, Buzzwole, Blacephalon,and Stakataka all seem like they'd be fine to sprite for

[ember bear]

specifically the randomizer ones tho

[stuck bane]

Ye those

Which apply to me

[ember bear]

fair

[full bison]

with Pheromosa the only real concern is Rule 2

[stuck bane]

Randomizer plus no defusing is just so much fun, it forces you to use mons and sprites you’d otherwise never consider

[stuck bane]

Damn this really does just scream “wedding dress fusions” doesn’t it?

[ember bear]

ehhh

[stuck bane]

Like it’s a roach but

[ember bear]

idk it looks like a stickman that wears lamp cones

that's how i see it at least

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-gardevoir-mega-gardevoir-shadow-ball-gif-488225791136482549

[stuck bane]

It’s mostly the back hair thing and color scheme that make me think that

[marble meadow]

Oh the wheel I spin landed on gardevoir and I found 3 or 4 cool fusion with custom dex

anyway ubs will be intressting to sprite

[velvet root]

MAAAN idk what to do with the weird frog and fox middle stage

[full bison]

Xurkitree/Torterra interests me considering the obvious answer for that fusion is to reference the Ultra Plant, a place that's already part Xurkitree

[marble meadow]

Xurkitree delibird crismas themed

[unkempt kernel]

And sass

[deft obsidian]

Braixen/ one of eeveelotion

[velvet root]

Welp too late, I lost all motivation for everything.

[full bison]

you know what would be neat? Fusions with Pheromosa, Xurkitree, and Nihilego with either Ditto or Zoroark to reference the old theory that they were Lusamine, Guzma, and Lillie respectively

That was a fun little theory that had like half the fanbase sold

[fathom ridge]

would the ultra beast come with some triple fusions

[ember bear]

doubt

they are either singles mons or just two counterparts

[last pecan]

i have a Chart

2 even

[stuck bane]

Chart of what UBs or?

[full bison]

If we count Solgaleo, Lunala, and Necrozma as UBs, those would certainly have a triple

[last pecan]

UBs? most likely Nihilego

[stuck bane]

We’ve had this convo, if the beast ball doesn’t work on them they’re not a UB

[last pecan]

anyway behold, 2 charts
The first my personal picks, and the second the ones I think are most likely

Croagunk can be swapped with Drilbur

[fathom ridge]

you think vikavolt is likely

[stuck bane]

Unfortunately your second chart is probably correct, there were no unova in the blitz week and this is the most comparable thing

[last pecan]

it got 5th most voted overall

[fathom ridge]

i would love if vikavolt got in

[last pecan]

the second chart is mainly "these polled well" with 3, sort of "left field" mons to keep us on our toes, as frog does

[full bison]

Their stats are all prime numbers, they have the distinctive howl at the end of their cry, they all originate from Ultra Space, and the Pokemon GO UB campaign included them. I feel like they should count to some degree

[last pecan]

Camurupt - frog feels bad for not having counterparts (Sableye, Amaura), and we got Sharpedo
Nihilego - It, Stunfisk, and Sandygast were contenders a long time ago, Stunfisk got in
Toxicroak - just vibes

[stuck bane]

They can definitely be closely related to UBs, doesn’t make them one since they’re specifically coded not to be

[last pecan]

i think the beast ball thing is more of a gameplay thing

[stuck bane]

So you’ll include Lilligant and Gothitelle in future since they’re also counterparts

[last pecan]

lore wise they are, like how the raidons are paradox forms

[fathom ridge]

i think volbeat is very likely bc it was the least voted mon but it isnt absolutely horrible and its just two slots

[last pecan]

i think those are less likely since theyre more, exclusives counterparts

Camurupt is Magma and Sharpedo is Aqua, which makes me see them as the strongest, uncomplete counterpart

[fathom ridge]

isnt lilligant the counterpart of cottonne?

[last pecan]

they also dont add anything Massively new

its kinda just 2 more waifumons

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/tierno-ludicolo-pokemon-dance-gif-5816728887341424787

[fathom ridge]

lilligant is cute tho but yeah

[last pecan]

Ludicolo is also up there for me

mainly cause Lotad

[stuck bane]

It is

[fathom ridge]

ludicolo is a very solid choice but lombre would be one of the least used mons for fusions

[last pecan]

Nuzleaf is also nice

[fathom ridge]

i just realized i read your message wrong

[marble meadow]

Shiftry for some interesting fusion or some other tengu based fusion

[last pecan]

Nuzleaf has 3 very different body shapes and even head vibes

[fathom ridge]

trueeee, i specially like the little acorn guy

[last pecan]

i think Lotad and Seedot lines are equally likely

[full bison]

Seedot/Lotad leak:

[last pecan]

Lotad is more loved, but Seedot has more potential

[fathom ridge]

gamefreak should do that again

[stuck bane]

From what I’ve seen, Ludicolo and spheal are the two that are most neck and neck, both were on spriter vote, ludi made 2020 google vote, and spheal made number 6 on this main vote

[marble meadow]

yeah maybe with shiftry or some other fitting mons there is potential for more touhou ref

silly hats for ludicollo fusions

[silent acorn]

What is this creature

[silent acorn]

Denied

We need Malamar

For maximum reverse uno cards

[full bison]

The perfect lifeform

[silent acorn]

To be honest

[deft obsidian]

Ash o what

[silent acorn]

I am not sure what is good to add

[marble meadow]

yo Malamar is peak design

[deft obsidian]

For real

[silent acorn]

The starters are pretty good ad

If I had to say

Another fairy be fine

Any really

[full bison]

Morelull for more luls

[deft obsidian]

Even Volbeat?

[silent acorn]

Between Slurpuff, Ribombee and maybe yeah morelul

[silent acorn]

Volbeat isn't fairy is it?

[stuck bane]

Volbeat not a fairy

The only fairy thing about it is being fairly at the bottom of the main vote

[silent acorn]

LOL COURAGE IT WAS DEAD YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DISINTEGRATE IT!

Damn savage lol

I am fairy certain it wouldn't get in anyway

[stuck bane]

I’m sorry for lashing out, I just know deep down these 15 slots are gonna be a repeat of the blitz week

[silent acorn]

Could they be?

Hmmm sounds interesting

[full bison]

It'll get in if Frog does a bit of trolling

[silent acorn]

Well I mean

[stuck bane]

These are my predictions

Blitz week: bewear, dhelmise, toxapex, Hawlucha, Cacturne, pallossand, aurorus

58% alola, 25% kalos, 16% hoenn
8 alola slots
4 Kalos slots
3 hoenn slots

Goliso 2
Ribombee 2
Minior 2
Salazzle 2
Slurpuff 2
Xerneas/Yveltal 2
Walrein 3

[silent acorn]

We runnin out of time here

[stuck bane]

If looking at the blitz week

[last pecan]

WOO MINIOR LETS GO MINIOR

[fathom ridge]

minior would be 1 slot i think

[silent acorn]

Yeah minior is one actually

[last pecan]

Crust and No Crust

[silent acorn]

Since it's a stat change buff but not like literal change

Actually

It is isn't it?

[fathom ridge]

the thing with that is that all minior sprite ive seen have both crust and no crust parts

[ember bear]

it is a literal change

[stuck bane]

Until we know for certain, we only know that 1 slot can’t hold multiple sets of Pokémon data, because UN failed, minior may need a second slot for its core form stats

But I agree it should be 1 slot for spriter’s

[last pecan]

frog has also said hes considering changes for aegislash and stuff

[stuck bane]

Oh no

[ember bear]

i would rather not

[stuck bane]

Spriter’s would literally die

[ember bear]

stance change as it is gives an interesting niche to higher defense mons

[last pecan]

i think itd just be Aegislash and Mimikyu

[stuck bane]

Giratina, rotom

[last pecan]

those too ig

[stuck bane]

Deoxys

[last pecan]

okay nvm theres a lit

[ember bear]

mimikyu doesn't need a form change

[stuck bane]

Lots of things it could affect

[silent acorn]

Well shucks but also YAY, different miniors

[fathom ridge]

thats true but not being able to have element of both forms in sprites seriously hurts its potential

[silent acorn]

Actually having them separate is better

Since you could go around with different ones

One crusty star

One nova

[stuck bane]

You misread what I’m saying

Let’s pretend minior is 474 and 475. Spriter’s only use 474. 475 is a “blank” dex space only to hold the stats for minior’s core form. 474 sprites apply to 474 and 475

[silent acorn]

Oh...

Oh no

[fathom ridge]

ohhhh

[silent acorn]

Bad idea BAD IDEA

Should do Melo better

I mean

Could still work

[fathom ridge]

do it

[silent acorn]

Just have shieldsdown be like a one time buff

[stuck bane]

Keep Melo the way it is it’s forms are different enough

[silent acorn]

As Melo not as UN

[last pecan]

Ultra Necrozma did also change types so that could be it

[silent acorn]

Impossibruh

[silent acorn]

Meloetta actually does too

Problem is

How they function

[dim sparrow]

help im laughing too much at my own image

[silent acorn]

Melo works as two

[full bison]

Aegislash having 2 forms makes no sense

[fathom ridge]

i thought ice type magikarp was the only mon i would be gas-lighted into believing it existed

[stuck bane]

Idk, until told otherwise I’m going to assume the typing and/or BST changing was the problem, I’m not gonna assume BST changes aren’t a problem since that hasn’t been proven yet

[full bison]

It's literally just, shield in front, shield in arm

it's completely insignificant

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-laughing-chinese-dog-laugh-puppy-laugh-laughing-dog-kiss4hearts-gif-10464411004713834978

[marble meadow]

gardevoir carbink tenshi hinawa ref alt

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-tenshi-quick-eating-peach-gif-14969857

[silent acorn]

Go make it

[dim sparrow]

on another note I did actually put effort into this sprite so thats why its the personal favorite

[silent acorn]

You trolllllll

[silent acorn]

100 years later...

When the holy grail is found

And hex hacking becomes AI hacking

[dim sparrow]

when i convince gamefreak to ad it to gen 19

[fathom ridge]

glalie/sandshrew alt

i love the toilet kangaroo

[dim sparrow]

lore accurate would be alolan sandslash/sandshrew but that would only be confusing

it probably gotta be regice

[fathom ridge]

hmmm yeah actually that one makes more sense

[dim sparrow]

a screw it why not im posting it to spritework

[full bison]

I have a Spiritomb/Carbink fusion concept I'd enjoy seeing realized, but I don't know how willing anyone would be to work with a complicated reference image like this:

[silk narwhal]

Tf is that

Junji ito looking ass

[full bison]

It's from a manga called Land of the Lustrous, and the context is super spoilery

[stuck bane]

Us when we find out goliso and rest of unova are never getting in

[twin phoenix]

Houseki no Kuni~

[full bison]

That image is actually of || the main protagonist after their gem body and psyche have been literally shattered ||

[silk narwhal]

Huh

[twin phoenix]

Thin lines and tiny details turn off spriters a lot so it might not happen for a long time.

[full bison]

I kinda figured TBH, but you miss 100% of the shots you don't take so I figured I'd at least get the suggestion out there

[pure flower]

Oh I was wondering, when is the new pokemon being added?

[full bison]

nobody knows, we're thinking maybe tomorrow as it's a week away from when the starters were revealed, but that's just an assumption

[lilac fiber]

What mon is Refrigid??

[prime dust]

something that doesn't exist

[twin phoenix]

A Fakemon, perhaps?

[lilac fiber]

The why is it being said to vote for it??

[full bison]

memes

[silent acorn]

She cracked a joke

https://tenor.com/view/bongocatsolana-bongosolana-bongocattakeova-bongotakeova-bongosol-gif-12923756510446467613

[stuck bane]

We don’t know when they’re being added, but we predict the next reveal to be Friday or this weekend. Update probably comes out whenever we hit 500, between 3-15 weeks from now

But also the bigger thing here

[stuck bane]

RICK IS A SHE?!?!?!?

[civic harness]

Hello there, what did I miss?

[stuck bane]

Me accepting that every other region should get in so we can start adding unova mons, just rip the bandaid off already

I gotta wait at least 2 years for unova starters anyways, go luvdisc and Volbeat or whatever

[cobalt river]

unova non if concept for the fans ((i clicked into this channel earlier today and briefly saw sawsbuck being mentioned didnt have time to draw till now though))

[stuck bane]

And just like that MY UNOVA SPARK IS REKINDLED BABY, thank you ribbon

[cobalt river]

haha np! >:] theres some unova mons i would be happy to see n sawsbuck is def one of em

[silent acorn]

Not that Courage LOL

That Rick would be a She would perhaps be the second most shocking thing after Jojo being a Dude

[silent acorn]

Sawsbuck?

Looks absolutely stunning good Work Ribbon

[terse fable]

yee amazing aff

[cobalt river]

haha ty all! i dont often do concept art but its fun to do every once in a while

final non IF art i leave the night with >:] ((i know absolutely no one cares about audino but me but thats ok. shes my silly))

[terse fable]

awwwwww so cute!!!

[grave jolt]

Adorable!

[last pecan]

WOO hell yea we love sawsbucks

[stuck bane]

Hey! Literally unova man here! Make that two

[grave jolt]

I just realized half my picks are Unova

[lilac fiber]

So cute

[inland jewel]

Considering that Unova has like 116 mon not in the game

as opposed to everyone else's 25-50

[weak trellis]

makes sense since unova has like 156 mons

and most other regions have around 80-100 aside from hoenn

[inland jewel]

you must mean Kalos

Kalos has only like 60

[weak trellis]

I did mean unova with it not having about 116 mons makes sense when it has more mons in its region than any other

also yea kalos has the least I believe

[proud lion]

Hoping the reveal is not tomorrow but on Friday

[inland jewel]

any reason why

[proud lion]

Friday has a whole vibe as in end of the week to look forward to

[molten latch]

Carbonker Goober!

[regal stirrup]

Nice

Hey what’s your favorite fusion send a picture

Please

[dusty arrow]

hello chat

[quartz shell]

Whoosh

[glass patio]

regice magikarp should be ice type magikarp

[dusty arrow]

wdym ice type magikarp is a completely separate mon

[glass patio]

ik

but as a reference

[dusty arrow]

ohh true

[glass patio]

to the epic pokemon ice type magikarp

[terse fable]

sick affff

[glass patio]

Wait wtf i alr said this before? I was searching on the server for regice magikarp

…

i forgor 💀

[dusty arrow]

oh

apprently so

[glass patio]

“when i have time” man I’m so lazy

ok it should be simple enough maybe i can do it on the weekend if nothing happens i can’t during the week

[dusty arrow]

alright cool

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-stupid-wat-magikarp-gif-4502554

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/hayao-miyazaki-gif-11280657

[glass patio]

gn chat

[quartz shell]

I thought so too

[glass patio]

[terse fable]

nighttt

[grave jolt]

Need a ponyo ref sprite for Magicarp

[spare dagger]

Gotta be goldeen

[hot hamlet]

Ralts or Kirlia? Assuming those because they look like children the most

[spare dagger]

Prolly Ralts for smol child

[hot hamlet]

Fair

[spare dagger]

Then Seaking/Wailord for the giant water fish

[hot hamlet]

They don’t look very… koi.
Honestly if we did have Relicanth I’d say that/Wailord

[silent acorn]

Goodday doll

[spare dagger]

The face kinda fits imo

[bronze bolt]

how in the world is chatot not in the game

[brave hawk]

Everyone is ignoring my ASS

[bitter comet]

Hopefully my prediction about the 12th will come true

[simple gulch]

arc suit steven

is ASS

[timber spear]

Wdym I just scrolled up and you haven't said anything in a bit

[brave hawk]

Not here I mean in general

But not the channel

[timber spear]

Ok

[outer matrix]

If an ultra beast were to be added in the next update, which one could it be if only 1 was allowed?

[next flare]

Blacephalon is the community favourite
Xurkitree would be mine

[full bison]

My personal vote would be Naganadel but I'm fine with most of them

Kartana would be my 2nd pick because there's a lot you can do with the origami schtick

[spare dagger]

Origami schtick would be an absolute pain to sprite

[twin phoenix]

Lots of squished together but otherwise straight lines.

[silk narwhal]

It'd be a new challenge though

I like that

I'd also vote kartana

[outer matrix]

the best option for kartana fusions would be to make irl origamis of the Pokémon your fusing it with

[spare dagger]

Actually, that’d be adorable

[rigid bear]

ok how much money do I have to donate to get my fav pokemon in the next update

real shit I need buizel in the game

[alpine rune]

None cuz the game would get taken down if they receive money

[velvet root]

I mean its not his fault when a rando wants to give him money

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-sniff-nose-hungry-pokemon-gif-14614876398478750391

Hello?

[unkempt kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-squirrel-pokemon-pokemon-pachirisu-adorable-gif-17099886384054803802

[rigid bear]

yea that makes sense

[rigid bear]

what do y'all think is the chance of buizel being added?

[molten latch]

For me well. . . Kinda low

Like not one low or zero low.

[molten latch]

See?

[hollow creek]

XURKKK

Oops 4 hours late

The wishiwashi hate is nuts

[cobalt river]

Buizel… middling chances, I suppose? I don’t see it being brought up much, but I don’t see anyone disliking it either. Im not expecting it, but itd be possible! I wouldn’t mind buizel :]

[mystic crystal]

Buizels a cute little guy. I don't think he would make for the most exciting fusion material but he'd be cute

not such a big fan of floatzel but eh; they'd be okay

[molten latch]

Ashame, tho atleast we will wait on which pokemon.

Like. . . Either its a Legendary or Not.

[unkempt kernel]

Part of my reasoning for Pachi

[molten latch]

Yeah, cute and underrated.

I can understand that.

[molten latch]

Just like Pachirisu Girl (Leyley)

[unkempt kernel]

Well I’m very biased towards Pach as it’s my tied favourite mon (can’t have the other one it’s a gen 8 mon)

[cobalt river]

theres quite a few mons in the category of ‘not super exciting, but theyd be okay’ for me

[unkempt kernel]

As much as I’d love Pach into the game, it’s highly unlikely but for this 15, 5 I’d like to see is the gothitelle line and the excadrill line

[molten latch]

True

Guess we have to wait till the Frog has come to announce something. Imagine the surprise.

[twin phoenix]

Just here to share my shared Gothitelle project~

[steel meadow]

Is this the NTM collab?

[glossy jewel]

not enough muscles to be NTM collab

[sharp nebula]

lilligant is all we need

[twin phoenix]

It is. 😭
I don't normally draw muscles. 😭

[glossy jewel]

looks great then, also a clear Jotaro ref

[twin phoenix]

I know nothing of the JJBA series except it has the kind of character design I enjoy.

[glossy jewel]

Same here

still looks cool

all that matters

[twin phoenix]

Thank you so much~

[steel meadow]

I knew i smelled some apple on that gothitelle and yeah it looks great. As expected out of you two if i might add

[simple gulch]

how does it smell like

i wonder how many collab that i did

[sinful smelt]

They would! Bright palette, and floatation devices elements possibly ~

[alpine rune]

average NTM sprite lmao

[steel meadow]

Like a muscular, sweaty apple ofc

[twin phoenix]

I need to add some stars somewhere to reference its hidden astral theming.

[simple gulch]

i only have the kiwi one

[steel meadow]

Its almost easier to count the spriters you havent collabed with-

[twin phoenix]

Like I was thinking of adding a carpet with a galaxy design on the bottom.

Have you two collabed?

[simple gulch]

slippin on a carpet?

[steel meadow]

That sounds very fun

[twin phoenix]

Like a Gogoat Machoke?

[steel meadow]

No we havent collabed

[steel meadow]

I only pick up random peoples art i never actually ask people to collab-

That way theres no pressure to actually do well

[alpine rune]

i actually never do collab, i just let someone finish my sprite

[steel meadow]

chad miku

[twin phoenix]

They're lots of fun~ Though I've yet to finish someone else's sprite or adopt someone else's concept.

[alpine rune]

This was an actual case

[simple gulch]

could i add some bit after u done with the sprite? :3

[twin phoenix]

Yeah, of course. I felt like it needed more stuff.

[simple gulch]

whos that man

[alpine rune]

Genesect guy

this

[simple gulch]

so why u gave up? ;,v

[velvet escarp]

So when is froakie coming to the game again? Totally not a big fan or anything

[steel meadow]

We dont know

Our best guess is november at the latest

[velvet escarp]

Thanks

[prime dust]

Soon™️

[alpine rune]

Cuz uhh

Too complicated for me

In my mind it looks cool

But when I try to sprite it I was like "How the fuck do I do this again"

[molten latch]

Let me guess

You love Machoke and Machamp?

[simple gulch]

no

i love sableye

[molten latch]

Ah I see

But why do you keep making machoke/machamp fusions?

Even tho Sableye is your favorite?

[proud lion]

Either today or tomorrow we will find out when reveals take place

[simple gulch]

bc if i dont go to hell, who will, machoke body is pain, im just saving other people

[terse fable]

my money's on tomorrow

[molten latch]

True

[terse fable]

but today would be cool

[simple gulch]

they will add the monkies

[glossy jewel]

[terse fable]

wouldn't be hat surprising with Frogs track record lol

[simple gulch]

is that ur irl face

[glossy jewel]

I wish LMAO

if I was Tom Ellis

holy shit

I'd be outta here

[simple gulch]

i forgor that u were an discord mod

[terse fable]

Still think it'd be funny Frog adds some garbage mon again.. cept this time from gen 8-9 making everyone foam at the mouth 😂

[glossy jewel]

I have been told that I look good

so that's good enough for me

[simple gulch]

nah

frog wont add thing that make him suffer

in coding

[glossy jewel]

doing one that doesnt have any new abilities/moves

actually insanely simple

[terse fable]

yee loll

[glossy jewel]

but dont expect that to happen

[alpine rune]

Would be funny if falinks suddenly gets into the game

[terse fable]

would be funny but i doubt it

[simple gulch]

they arent garbage

[alpine rune]

I never said they were, I just like Falinks

:]

[simple gulch]

:v make mockup mon

egxecute

gallade would fir for the head

[civic harness]

Trubbish is already in

Also, hello there

How is everything going pals?

[glossy jewel]

Tummy is doing unfunny

hbu

[civic harness]

Making things about propaganda, more like a commercial

[glossy jewel]

Propaganda past the first few hours is useless

[alpine rune]

I uhh got spriting rush

[glossy jewel]

actually, it's always useless

but I was told to let people have fun

[civic harness]

Im just making for the hype

[terse fable]

Seeing how a lot of voters aren't even in the server during voting periods, yea propagabda is useless af but super fun to see/make for people here lol

[glossy jewel]

yeah, that's basically the entire point

but some people actually expect it to work in their mons favour

[civic harness]

Is hope

Frog gave us hope with 500 mons in total

[alpine rune]

I remember making a Aurorus propaganda and it was definitely fun

[glossy jewel]

I have no idea what frog is cooking with the 500 mons lmao

[terse fable]

Yea i love seeing prop posts

[alpine rune]

I was the no 1 advocate for hail teams

[glossy jewel]

the best one was the carbink presentation

and like by far

[civic harness]

Well, we know that the 90% of users dont speak in this channel, some dont even play the game

[glossy jewel]

If it were up to me, I'd 100% make a contest of the best propaganda for a mon slot

in a way where the highest effort vid/presentation/whatever the fuck you come up with would get a slot

[molten latch]

[civic harness]

Honestly, I woukd really like that

[molten latch]

Depends

[alpine rune]

Tbh it would be more fitting if I won 1 showdown tour with it, but hey my hail team got me to second place so it's fitting nonetheless

[civic harness]

But it could happen the same with every event of votes, the cute thing wins

[glossy jewel]

That carbink vid was fire

[molten latch]

True

[glossy jewel]

it's strictly about highest effort

[molten latch]

Especially Ribombee

[glossy jewel]

e.g. making a full IRL vid sells pitch

[civic harness]

Well, meanwhile Im trying to make a video too but is going to be a little hard to make

[molten latch]

Oh really?

Do you make youtube videos?

[alpine rune]

Honestly would be fun

[glossy jewel]

but one can wish 😔

[terse fable]

I like that idea. would give mons like gogoat and claydol more of a chance without being really high in poll

they had high prop count tho

[glossy jewel]

not that I would participate, but I'd love to see it

[civic harness]

I made before but is going to be like an presentation

But in a "commercial way"

[glossy jewel]

there was a "contest" in a discord about doing weird things for stuff

e.g.

[alpine rune]

I would definitely participate just to make memes

[glossy jewel]

bake this recipe and write a review

[terse fable]

crabominable as well

[glossy jewel]

Write an essay about xyz in french

unless you speak french

then write it in english

and vice versa

make a cosplay of xyz

stuff like that

[alpine rune]

Can I write it in sign language?

[glossy jewel]

I could find the post

[civic harness]

Also I make some propaganda before

[civic harness]

Im pretty sure that you guys see it before

[molten latch]

Can I see

[glossy jewel]

stupid stuff like this

[alpine rune]

show it anyway

i also still have mine

[glossy jewel]

"What would you do for a pokemon in Infinite Fusion"

[civic harness]

Have a little time

[glossy jewel]

absolute genius idea

[cobalt river]

if you dont make a full three act musical on why your pokemon should get in it wont even be considered

[glossy jewel]

EXACTLY

[civic harness]

The image still loading

[glossy jewel]

scroll click on it (don't do this when people tell you to , certain discord scams relied on that)

[civic harness]

If you try to participate in the propaganda event you would probably win, you can just draw an elegant thing and get all the votes

[glossy jewel]

voting would likely be staff only

[terse fable]

finally some quality control on these decisions 😂

[glossy jewel]

as it has been with the past few events

as when you give the general populus votes

kommo-o gets into the game

😔

[civic harness]

But stuff like little cute things so probably

[glossy jewel]

actually, same thing happened for main sprite votes back when that was still a thing

the cool 6000 SFX pixel sprites made it in

[glossy jewel]

and yes, that number is not random

as there was a certain jirachi sprite

[civic harness]

Still send it things

[glossy jewel]

that had a total of 9000 pixels

6000 of which were for sfx alone

[terse fable]

Kommo-o and Carbink were such nothing picks to me honestly

[glossy jewel]

Carbink is based

[terse fable]

but i've been suprised by the carbink sprites