#pif-hoenn-discussion
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Understandable
I'm gonna cry
Spriting angles looks painful
The newest announcement
And it's nothing related to new monus
Damn
Brutal
Well i guess Dimitri is a pokemon now
nah its means it will be a russian pokemon xd
You been Russed
Man delphox killing it with fusions
Man chestnaught is really unpopular
man i saw the announcement channel get a new message and i got so baited 
well would be funny if the next mon announce has thats not in if has the prankster ability
Liepard:0
For how much I don't like Greninja some Fusions hit that sweep spot oh yes
doesnt riolu have prankster?
Someone uh...
did you see the lucario/greninja?
No
from the mons not in if its volbeat illumise liepard
I saw the Mismagius/Greninja
for liepard its hidden ability
To be honest it has better vibes than the og
May have to get it and fuse it
is probably the dream fusion of every 10 year old, but damn it just looks soooooo good
Luca is that cool
In Soviet Russia Pokemon are you
I wouldn't date touch Lucario for how much I love it, couldn't make a fusion worthy of the mon
I love this meme although I wonder about it's origin
i think it was just a random tweet
Someone made that meme from russian chat
Tinky to be exactly
Did they just see my comment and made a meme on it? Damn that's efficient
I sand screen shot of chat becose I thought it was funny
Well done
And yeah that was fast and unexpected
Goat
Ogrepon not gonna be in this game actually hurts
Y
I think carbonk get the most sprites among new pokemons?
Simple and cute body , cool head to work with
wait is regigigas in if
Yes
surprisingly, yes
carbink was actually goated, the gem fusions are great
Could be because contest?
Now that I’m free from diglett I’m actually gonna be able to sprite fusions I want
i have also seen a lot of delphox and braixen
actually yeah that makes sense
Same
But I didn't made any.
I think new starters will get the next contest
Carbink is making beautiful fusions
We've known that Carbink would make good fusions since people have been waiting for a gem mon to get in
especially since some people have been hoping for Diancie who is Carbink adjacent
simple enough to convert Diancie fusions into Carbink ones
Pov Sableye
well we had sableye tbf
yee, but most people do Sableye's gremlin thing and not his gem stuff
since Carbink is mainly gems, thats the focus people go for
but carbink is like more neutral, you dont need to add a lot of things other than gems and fluff
Carbink still feels kinda like a waste
But maybe im just still annoyed from it being in the Winner vote twice

im really excited for the next 15 pokemon
The timeline where Anja chose another mon instead of Carbink and thats the one that won Winner poll instead of Lurantis
you cant argue with the results
like i know you dont like a lot of the carbink sprite but that torterra one has like 97 
kinda wish crawdaunt wasnt in the winner vote, else i'd love him ingame
Its kinda cool
But it adds quiet some shit Carbing doesnt have
Not yet.
Digglet diggleggery doo
Also many overdo it with textures on Carbing or random gem spikes
I mean, Just because they're in Winner's vote doesn't mean that they aren't not eligable for the 15 slots
Gotta do Chestnaught Digglus
unless they specifically said that anything in Winner's vote cannot be added this tiem around
Sir please speak without triple negatives
I would say we could use more mons with body fusion potential but kommo-o lurantis and the kalos starters already have a lot of that
The fair question
i kinda wish for all the alola bugs to come in one nice package
People will complain about to many bugs
Will staff just give us these mons?
imagine we get golisopod, ribombee and vikavolt at the same time, it would be awsome
@glass patio 
You can never have too many bugs/hj
as bug is my favorite type I can't complain
Bugs are like 80% biodiversity anyway
this is actually true, especially bc iirc bug is the most unrepresented type in IF
their percentage is like 46 or 49
I would die of happiness
Technically not
Because Kommo is a line that counts two fighting types when fighting types are very little in number
Should have just one more line for variety
Rule 3 smh
Although I don't want the Muppet Bros
yeah, Chesnaught
Is fainting not dying 
Well fudge I always forget its fighting type
I think I remember seeing this scene as a child, memory unlocked
Mostly because I have never ever use it
I think ntm would love to sprite swak
It looks like it should be Grass/Steel
And it unpopular as heck
but no, its Grass/Fighting
True
tbh, I'd use Chesnaught over Greninja
You know no wonder people don't sprite it
It's hard to figure it's theming
As much
Chestnaught is really cool Fusion material
Maybe
But it lacks traditional fighting theme
The only theme it's being knight with shield really
I dunno why
Its not as far as I know
Well that it's main trait tho
But looking at Courage's list. Bug is 49%
Electric is 51%
and Psychic is at 52% for least amount of pokemon per that type
The shield hands
Is orange and it represents those traditional dances from Hawaii that they do before rugby
???
Isn't that Kommo?
Wasnt gen 6 DnD classes
Oh you weren’t talking about kommo?
No I was talking about Chestnaught as a fighting type
Damn chestnaught lmao
Doesn't really come to mind when you think of a fighting type
considering Chesnaught's name is made up off the seondd half of Juggernaut
I don’t know how to read 
im thinking its fighting style is supposed to be endurance fighting
DEYBLADE
Too stretchy
Rapid Spin?
Should have been Steel type
It is
It has no steel tho
Fair. But steel feels better for Knight mons
I mean
Huh
Never mind
a timeline where its called Chesnight instad
Is more like wooden or something
Unless what type is armorogue and ceruledge?
Fire/Psychic and Fire/Ghost respectively
I mean Chesnaught is a Glyptodon
Yeah neither is steel
I guess Cloyster was a steel type all along
/j
I was just checking
Armarogue should have been Fire/Steel tbh
Wait, I misread that
Lapras should be steel type too 
Also samurott has shell
Psychic
You know I would have never imagined since it stands on two legs and looks like something else
Fair
Well shoo
Two grass/fighting types are in now
There goes Toxicroak, Mienshao
i mean, this isn't the first time that they made a pokemon thats quadrapedal in IRL to be 2 legged
Shouldn’t delphox be fairy type?
i like chesnaught. because i like the mental image of it doing funny protective curl
i mean look at Lucario 
Well not like you can beat Charizard's more lady cousin
Salazzle
Feel the Frazzle
alright back to the spriting mines with me
Third in command of the top kekeke
have fun all
People have to accept it is inevitable
We will have to blackmail frog into giving them to us now
/j
You should do a Kangaskhan fusion with such a pose
Do you think they wouldn’t repeat types?
oooo kango chesnaught would be very cute 
Salazzle is cool
Furries always win eventually
/hj
If salazzle was posted in #1050404143807873157 as a fakemon I wouldn’t be surprised if people tagged rule 2
I would
And when it does, I will be there to spread all the Toxic to all my opponent's Pokemon
Once it gets in they can't do it anymore
Spread the TOXICITY
You know rules are made to be broken
And there is no rule people aren't more willing to break than 2
Hell someone broke rule 2 on my head with a castform 
No please no nono-stuff of Pokémon
Vaporeon 
HEED ME ARKOOS YOUR RULE SHALL BE BROKEN
not like people haven't done it already lol
Well anyway
I just like the palette
Yeah head fusions would be nice
You mean slazzle or castfrom?
Same as like Mienshao, except mienshao is better because whip hands
Do you think luppuny/salazzle could even exist?
Salazzle
Pink and black is really slick
I really thought the thing in announcements was a new mon reveal
sure
Actually true
True
I mean existing without breaking rule two 
It can
Just a really smug bunny
To be fair salazzle is one of those rare fire pokemon that doesn't quite feature fire in its design
Wanna see how it can
You'd only figure out after getting one
There is also magmortar and the moth
I am thinking about it
Well a bit less. They do have fire and you can kinda tell what they are about
Volcarona doesn’t have any fire sfx right?
Oh there we go
The wings kinda tell you
Also the name it's a bit of a giveaway
If volcarona was gen 1 pokemon it was bug/flying
I think its cute
If hydreigon was gen 1 pokemon it was flying/dragon
I think salazzle has some animations with purple fire right?
But another example is Blacephalon
Absolute fantastic
I mean the reverse order, salazzle body
😘👌
If a side is bad its lopunny bod
Yeah the bod is actually more of an infractor
I am Just thinking
Well could be her legs in the salazzle position spread like they are as a lizard then the hands down in the middle like a dog maybe?
Lupunny is more innocent than salazzle imo, but it’s kinda weird to say that
lopunny as a head is honestly kind of ugly on 99% of pokemon due to the fluff just usually not having a good way to be slapped on tbh
anyways salazzle/lop could be cute :]
That’s beautiful 🤩
To be fair Lopunny head probably has the same use as Diggersby head for fusions
And here people say it breaks rule 2 , psh
ok but castform is cute
diggersby actually might be more fun as a head fusion as much as that pains me JFJENF
at least there you can easily make all the fluff into mud clumps which are easier to slap on that just. regular round fluff. (also it has four colors to work with for heads, lop only has two (three if you want to use the megas colors but then you risk alting) and that does make working w it more lame as well)
Let's not talk about it yes?
No nono stuff
Unless it's the weather forms
what if I like weather forms and base castform
I just prefer the other forms
castfrom has nothing wrong unless you have a dark mind
Have more personality
I dont know petah
But your outfits look good
It would have been actually neat if the freaking molecules were little arms
But no
For some reason they are those things in that position
castform is fine
i just realized, lurantis kinda looks like a hollow knight character 
I can see it
Now that Ubs and legendaries are possible I did a tier list on what I hope gets in
The x on the image is a bit of a troll haha
Yeah I don't know what it is
It's just there and when I click it it dissapears
Then reappears once I click out of the image
yessss vikavolt on the top as it deserves
Look, it isn't on the image once I click it
YES LILLIGANT YES
I hope we get the xy legendaries man
Why those exact mons for 10th university?
You know stoutlant has a really nice body for designs
Those big hairs could be use to make crazy stuff
to clarify, the would be really nice tier is mostly what I voted 3, and the top is my absolute most wanteds
"save for 10 year anniversary" is a way of me saying Id rather have them in at a later point
Oh got it
Gumshoos would be so funny for 5 minutes but then it would be kinda meh
it does not have a lot going on at all
Out of all the Dream ones, honestly Wishi is the only I see feasible in a dream
Looks to be a really complicated one to implement
It be neat
buzzwole tho
But yeah looks very difficult
I dont think frog wouldve had wishiwashi on the ballot if he wasnt able to get it working ingame, unless you mean sprites
Pory approves
i quite like the intended desing of private detective, it could make for some cool fusions
It's a bit of both
Sprites
And how form change would end up working
It'd be weird for it to become weak but not change sprites since that's its main characteristic
body fusions would require creativity but as a spriter, wishiwashi heads of both forms are not crazy difficult
only thing that makes me sad is kartana being so low
wishiwashi would be great i love the idea of having pokemons made out of fishes
Yeah kartana isnt my type
that’s valid
now you wanna talk about difficulty to sprite, theres kartana
Fair. But I do wonder how the sprite would end up working in the end. Like does it change sprites in battle or would that have to happen outside?
Doesnt meloetta change form in battle?
I'll take your word for it
Kinda? I don't remember what people said about it.
actually kartana heads wouldnt be bad, youd have to be as creative as youd have to be with wishiwashi
kartana doesnt sound that awful to sprite, like it wouldnt be easy but it wouldnt be that hard
its articulating the folds that would be challenging
guzzlord is also a menace to sprite, but for bodies
All the UBs seem like they'd pose annoying challenges to sprite except Nihilego and maybe the Poipole line
Xurkitree with all its wires, Celesteela with its awkward proportions, Blacephalon's multicolored everything...
Xurkitree is probably the next easiest based on how people managed to work the themes of similar technological Pokémon into head fuses
Body is pretty much wire Sudowoodo
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1282802447865348238 New bink just dropped
Reimagining Carbink's white fluff around it's head as a mane is an amazing creative choice
Dem Binkys
I've been likin da bink lately
I’m still surprised that people thought diamonds wouldn’t make good sprites and carbink sprites would look boring
💀
Helps that people been goin hard with the sprites like so
Not that surprising, it's not always easy to see the vision until you see people work with it, it's like people thinking minior or some other mons would make bad sprites, when odds are they'll be really good
I mean to be fair with this community we can turn any pokemon into fantastic fusion material.
Some mons are just hard to see that at first, and diff ones for diff people lol
Ngl it was very easy for me to visualize in my mind
yeye like i said it depends on the personn
I think people where doubting carbink because not many people sprited it before
I remember people saying it would just be more Sableye type stuff, but the two definitely bring distinct vibes
People saying that were just on crack
It gives me like girl sableye or feminine sableye vibes in a good way, even tho I know it's like no gender or whatev
But yeah, some Pokemon you just can't tell how good theyd be as fusion material until you see the sprites. Who would've thought that Klinklang would be a god-tier fusion material?
Sableye gives me like tiny little gremlin sprite vibes
While Carbink just gave me the idea of Majestic sprites and tiny goobers
If you people can make good pyukumuku sprites someone can probably make a good luvdisc sprite also
yee idk they have a yin/yang vibe to me, especially now after seeing the sprites
ive seen some fire luvdisc sprites
just no one wants them lol
same wth monkiess
The problem I have with Luvdisc sprites is what can you do with it that you can't do with Alomomola
That’s true
Ig, they have some notable differences tho sprite wise
Then also some mons are easier to sprite than others
for actual usaage yea alo for sure tho
And Artists can get a better grasp on them
I have heard Carbink got the first contest because spriters knew what to do with it
More than Kommo o and Lurantis
Kommo o does seem pretty hard without people who like/are used to doing him
Like Bruxish
Bruxish’s palette is hella fire for sprites
I'd consider them like higher tier difficulty mons for spriting
Wishiwashi seems like the perfect amount of complexity without going overboard, but it has a similar problem to Meloetta when it comes to spriting
Wishiwashi in if would be very interesting
oh yea ffor sure, im saying it's hard tho lke not a mon a beginner spriter could prob do well
Maybe they will make it always in schooling mode and they nerf its stats a bit idk
Wishiwashi without Schooling mode feels like it's removing alot of it's identity, but at the same time one form having a sprite while another has an autogen would be hella annoying
It would either be a very weak mon or very broken mon
Depending on how it's done
I feel you can make quite a few broken mons already so whats one more lol
Actually they can probably code in schooling
But then it would basically be ability locked in fusions
Because its stats would be so bad otherwise
If they can do meloetta form they can do schooling
Schooling stats they would have to nerf them a lot
yee most likely
So it's the Anti-Slaking. Adding good stats, but you're forced to carry the ability
Actually let me see if any of the schooling mons with fusions would be broken
bet
If anything is keeping Wishiwashi Schooling from being OP, it's that HP stat
Mon may be insane
In fusions
really depends
maybe fusion to make ti faster for sweeps or one for more bulk and attack
idkk
I'm not sure what thestats for it even are lol
Wishiwashi school you can’t even make it that fast
Aslowla moment
And it isn’t that strong with electrode
Maybe Aegislash would be good but also no Stance Change would hold it back alot
but I mean a few choice fusions could maybe make it pop off
You fuse it with Haxorus ngl
Dragon dance mold breaker
If you can used a unnerfed school form
That shit would be insane
Even without Mold Breaker Water/Dragon is always a hype type
But then with schooling it’s not as big of a problem
Probably not a problem at all
Schooling is really mid
it's such an awkward ability because Wishiwashi can't live with it and can't live without it
where new pokemans
Maybe something with a decent HP would help, but all I can think of is Blissey and that would tank it's offenses
The new Pokémon’s are implemented in showdown but it may not be accurate because we don’t know the new learnsets and sprites are already being made for the mons and they are cool to look at
They aren’t ingame yet tho
the 15
Who knows
All we can do is wait and speculate
but I want drampa
give
Tell me your reasons
Eel
i like them : >
7 out of 15 nostalgia
danc plant
I just want Mienshao
u all should make ur own ideal 15 picks
And also Naganadel but that would probably be a UB package deal
Is there like a template for this or a website?
blanc
My ideal pick is all 11 UBs, Mienshao, and Golisopod. Not realistic, but my ideal
15 picks is hard when there's only a couple I really want and the rest I want and a few I kinda feel eh about
but all the mons i want in
I have guesses what I think they might be tho
Ok
More realistically, my list would be the Unova fossils, Mienshao line, Golisopod line, Musharna line, Bounsweet line, Sigilyph, and maybe a Mythical
I think Blacephon has a decent chance, a firework/celebrating type mon as a legendary/UB for the 500k celebration? doesn't seem that crazy
If the UBs aren't a package deal, that would make sense
honestly i would appreciate it more if the ubs were added one at a time
adding 11 mons all at once feels like a bit much
also the other gen starters missing I think have a decent shot, the pory stream and the way things were worded makes me not believe in that as much, but I still think that would make sense too
i hope alola would be next
I don't see two separate groups of starters being added at once
cause they know people are gonna go crazy about the couple missing gens of starters lol, but yea that's not as likely
i wanna make a torracat luxio fusion but i need more torracat bases to work with for that 
My next big guesses would prob be the obv one's which are runner ups from the polls
but with the lil delay between announcements here, i do have another theory
that they're putting together more event kind of things to have the community decide the next 15 over the coming weeks
and that's takin time
But it could also be they're doing special/fun/troll announcements instead and they usually have art for that, so tthat could also be the case
I don’t think so, I think I heard somewhere staff had a voice in the 15 choices, and I think the 1 per week reveal (similar to main vote last year) is to give spriters time to make sprites of each Mon per week
ahh that makes sense too
Dude I’d love to see art/troll/reveals again it’d be so much fun
yee exactlyy lol just hoping we get somethin soon I need a mon/playtest or something, anything 
I feel like we will most likely be getting a Legendary from this considering it's a milestone
Probably, complete Zygarde would be a good number 500
Yea I could believe a legend/mythical will be coming
Or maybe a mythical, victini could make sense too
JESUS THATS INSANE
You made this????!
Of all the available Mythicals, I'd probably want Marshadow or Magearna added the most
I still think based off the occasion Blacephon makes sense
Have the kalos starters been added to the game yet? i just started a new save and wanted to use one as my starter but the the most recent mon i can use is Necrozma or Bruxish
Just would have to find a way to do it
ya, turns out i can cook more than just sableyes 🍽️
Idk about Blacephalon, isn’t it a counterpart?
And with insane quality Jojo
Teach me your ways master
Not added yet, they will be in 6.3
ok thank you
Kalos starters haven’t been added yet they’re giving time for sprites to be made
Get pangoro in and we can talk Jojo
🫡
carbink pangoro would go so hard tbh
im imagining a carbink steelix fusion where its a mega steelix a carbink imbeded in steelix's head
Might’ve already been made, easy concept and carbink has been confirmed for a while
I dont get your comment
Or just a big steelix with a bunch of lil carbinks embed in it
Yep
I kinda gave up on pangoro
coolll
First one when I searched steelix in sprite gallery
Cool beard
Done with my wishlist
Pancham would have been fun to add
My top 15
I would love to add lilligant in there but like that'd be too greedy and harmful to variety
I can wait
And before you ask
Yes
The 10 Fufrous count as one
I omit my obvious choices lilligant and sawsbuck, even gogoat
Drampa is about the only Single Dragon I give enough of a damn about to add
drampa is peak
fire list
Thank you for your kind words
Could add Excadrill but even I'd admit sandslash is still fire at the moment
why do they count as 1
The forms are only cosmetic, don't change anything else
AT ALL
It's just part of how it is
Can't do nuthin bout that
It's like with aegislash
Doesn't count as two mons
aight
i feel like an excaslash (or sanddrill) could go hard
Honestly I could replace Furfrou with Komala just because of Komala's gimmick but, the 10 different designs and furfrou's solid ability give it an edge
Also it's a dog
Hell yeah it would
But
Honestly I wouldn't be too excited RIGHT NOW, kinda need other stuff
i hate to be the bearer of bad news
but i think frog hates dog pokemon
Eh, I love em
Plus is the best one out of the remaining dogs
Manectric cant mega... And I personally am not into the base one
I like the mega
But I am not about that life with the base
i dont really care much for manectric tbh
It's not, anything that makes me go "WOAH DUDE"
like its the best gen 3 electric type.. because the other ones are plusle and minun
and its pre-evo
In fact many of the electric ones not in except Eelektross elicit that response from me
Eelektross is still peak in my heart for electric
Yeah... That sucks fat Pokeballs, kinda why I didn't like it
Pretty underwhelming
You hat Watson who used it as it's ace but I was like
Eh
like third highest special attack in the game and tail glow 
yes
Staff chooses myths and stuffs now
it does 
Super saiyan white hair and black cables? Yes please
base 173 special attack and it gets tail glow
All UBs tend to rank very high for me
I want guzzlord tbr
Except Nihilego, Blacephalon and the bamboo one
fifth*
below mewtwo y, deoxys-a, primal kyogre, and mega alakazam (its two points below alakazam)
But even those are neat
celesteela?
I can't remember the name sometimes
I just know it because it's the bamboo moon princess thing
Pretty neat
today i learned this is what baby celesteela looks like
lil bamboo shoot
the only ones i dont really care for are celesteela (even then celesteela is kinda cool) and stakataka
Most of the UBs are these nebulous conceptual beings
Then there is celesteela being a sort of tale reference
Not bad
Just different
Prix promoted stakataka
regional unown evo
stakataka has a funny japanese name though
Imagine fighting a pokemon that looks like a room
tundetunde
i wanna ask
why do you not like nihilego as much as the others
Tuntuntun
It is neat don't get me wrong
But like
(also blacephalons japanese name is zugadoon which i find hilarious)
They have to be ordered somewhat
I still think it would be a wayyyyyyy better addition than the special event pokemon of Alola
In general I usually don't like those event ones
its in that weird inbetween state
It's ugh complicated
it was first shown in gen 6 but released in gen 7
Why I don't like em except Diancie and Hoopa
AZ FLOETTE WHEN
Dimensional Genie gets away because super multiversal power level
How insane it be they don't add it to IF but they do have one with the special move?
Aku aku
they arent gonna add az floette, im predicting it now
Could be neat tho, just the move
guzzlord anime cry 
az floette is basically an offensive oriented florges tbh
Sounds like Sean Shemmel step on a lego
Just noticed... Yeah the guy is named AZ, and the new game ZA
Weird
also florges has a really high bst what
wrong channel
Ooh sorry
Also ty
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Will do
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Man carbink crystals go hard
Give us Eternal Flower Floette in pokemon IF !!
How fucking funny would it be if they included random shit like eternal flower floette and notch eared pichu but still never added dusk Lycanroc
But… notch eared Pichu is an alt… same with Ukulele Pichu
So if anything EFF should be an alt too
I’d be so hyped if Florges line got in
I understand if not cause of flabebe but
Joltik does have sprites so
Flabebe gets in and suddenly I have a new candidate for Smol theme
Any nature/crystal/pink pokemon that gets in I’m excited either way
Speaking of I’m stuck on the Jewelry theme at 4/6. Even including Carbink, ran out of fusions that actually turn into jewelry
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May need to abandon concept and just pick fusions that look decked out
EFF should prob be a separate form rather than alt; It wouldn't fit the sprite rules since it's a just a recolor if you do that.
But the problem is it’s just a recolor aesthetically. And the means of gaining it mean you can’t just do something like Necrozma.
Only compromise I can come up with is if you did a flower thing like Oricorio
Honestly, I could see doing the flower thing Oricorio has as viable. hell, I think most EFF fans would be happy if there was just a move tutor in the game for the unique move.
Either way, crimson city seems like a thematic place for such
Does anyone have original size sprites for the Fenniken line?
wait i didnt know this existed
holy shit i need more of this
Ye thank you!
Well this makes it easier to start for me. Thank you pachi girl
Do you have them for the Chesnaught line?
Thing is, Eternal Flower Floette is a massive difference from regular Floette, though not by design
That said, I still doubt it'd be added
brother you can’t even get eternal flower floette officially 
True but the stats are extremely different and anyways so in noting it anyways
Wow that is
A terribly constructed sentence
I should sleep
These are the Pokemon I'd like to see added
Gen 8+ mons 
Are Gen 8 & 9 not allowed?
Yeah they arent allowed :[
bummer
Old Engine; would need a reoverhaul
Not yet anyhow
In the words of the mods:
replace Corvinight with Staraptor line, Falinks with Torkoal and Tinkerton with Leavanny/Florges line
1-2. Croagunk - Toxicroak (Poison/Fighting)
3. Torkoal (Fire)
4-5. Skiddo - Gogoat (Grass)
6-7. Dwebble - Crustle (Rock/Bug)
8-10. Spheal-Sealeo-Walrein (Water/Ice)
11-12. Drillbur/Excadrill (Ground/Steel)
13-15. Tynamo/Eelektrik/Eelektross (Electric) [I could accept this being swapped with Florges line]
List of my hopes and dreams. I tried to spread out the types
I don't think we'll get that many normal Pokémon, I feel like half of the rest will be Legendary or some forms
My predicition would be absolutely max 3 legendaries
Those 3 being gen 6 box legends + zygarde or hopefully diancie
I feel like we have to get Lunala and Solgaleo, which also means Cosmog and Cosmoem
Yveltal and Xerneas first smh
Unless they skip gens like the starters
I think being this unconsistent with special mons/starters are adding alot new player confusion
Necrozma hints at Solgaleo and Lunala, like how Regigigas hinted at other Regis
I get that, but I think adding Necrozma first was a shit decision
maybe Zygarde will also be added to hint at Xerneas and Yveltal
My biggest hope is still Diancie to reward ribbon and because we got carbink
yeah
Where is the walrein sprite?
Gimme gimme and I'll vote 3 for it next time
Honestly
Havent seen any
I just think the game desperately need ice types and Walrein seems like the most likely ice type to me
alright... redo
Holy marshadow enjoyer 
Honestly there was only one slot left after Drapion, Araquanid, and Abomasnow and I didn't really know what to put in there.
lmao yeah that sure is an ideal list and not a realistic one 
I would love to see armarouge and clauncher so he can finally have MEGA LAUNCHER
posting the blank template again for anyone else wanting to make their own list
These are the Pokemon I'd like to see added
Talking about giving Armarouge Mega Launcher won't change the fact that it has 0 STAB affected by it
Or that Mega Launcher doesn't even buff any Fire or Psychic moves
And "oh, they didn't bother" isn't a valid excuse
simply mod if to make armor cannon a pulse move
Remember, Population Bomb is boosted by Sharpness because of a pun
Though, maybe it's just Armour Cannon being weird?
It strikes me as the type of move to be blocked by Bulletproof
But it isn't
So who knows
If i fused armarouge and clawitzer then water pulse would be stab
Apparently, some cannon moves are effected by Bulletproof, but some are not
itd also only be 90 bp so just slightly better surf
If you used Clawitzer, then Water Pulse would be STAB
and id rather use hydro pump
Yeah but i want megaman
And yeah I'd honestly rather use Hydro Pump
OK wait I'm confused now why is Bulletproof blocking cannon moves inconsistent
What is the lore here
Why'd I use Clawitzer, Quagsire is the ideal Water Type
Ceruledge Absol or Gallade would be p cool too

I wish Mega Launcher was given to a Dragon, Fighting or Dark type instead of just a Water
Give Clawitzer Origin Pulse
Trust me
Though it does mean that Clawitzer is a potential full team build around because you could fuse one for each of the different Mega Launcher stabs. Though that is still only 4
Can't wait to heal my opponents by 75%
Because double battles barely exist
Ive been playing the game in doubles mode
Yeah, the Heal Pulse thing is kinda cool. Might be a decent Idea for doubles
Though, there is a double battle and triple battle only mode
There's something, I guess
Bro I need to know why Bulletproof is inconsistent in blocking cannons
What is their reasoning
I wish Heal Pulse could self target
so recover
I've been thinking about doing a double battle run, but there's a few Pokemon that I'd still really want in the game before I feel its unique enough. Passimium and Deddenne are the big ones the latter because it solves Plus/Minus' biggest issue of only being on Ground weak mons
No I know the list
Man I know Remix mode is gonna go wild with Bulletproof
I'm busy wondering why something like Zap Cannon or Octazooka are blocked
But something like Spike Cannon or Flash Cannon aren't
Flash cannon is presumably where they launch a beam of light
Tbf a lot of them are signatures, with Fleur, Dmax and Armor Cannon
Octozooka is an orb of water
maybe based on different japanese name or anime appearance
Orb of ink
Both Octazooka and those moves are referred to as cannons in Japanese iirc
Or well not iirc
According to Bulbapedia
You can't "Oh this is simply energy and hence it gets blocked" me
Since Zap Cannon is just a bunch of electricity
Yknow, electrical energy
And also Searing Shot being thermal energy
Thing is the electrical energy is an orb shape
Last I checked, this is Bulletproof, not Heatproof or Electricity Proof
This can be blocked
looks like this in the anime
Armor Cannon is also orb shaped iirc
So why isn't that blocked?
Hydro Cannon is also orb shaped
That isn't blocked either
In the anime, hydro cannon is a jet of water
This not blocked by bulletproof
Idk about you, but I'm talking about a game mechanic
Oh, and according to bulbapedia, it has also been shown as an orb in the Anime
Due to budgeting reasons they reused animations but it’s supposed to be a jet of water
Energy Ball should be added to Pulse moves
I was going off the first usage of Hydro Cannon
they obviously updated it from an orb move
since as you can see in the can be blocked by bulletproof some moves no longer are blocked
Well, it is still an orb in game
but some moves have been updated to be blocked
I do not see why the games would go off anime logic
I forgot what Armor Cannon was and looked it up.. that's a mega buster shot.
And completely ignore the logic of their games
its happened before
like the level 5 salamence in Alola
or Mar's Level 16 Purugly
And you're telling me it has happened like this for 4 generations in a row?
apparently
I mean anything can be level 1-40 if you can import it from GO nowadays (ok level 15/20-40 in some cases) since their evolutions are independent of level
Gary has a Raticate at level 16 in Gen 1, so it's an issue from the start.
Before you say "that's just Gen 1" they didn't fix it in FRLG
Also Lance's Dragonites in GSC and I think they're underleveled in RBY too
In RBY they're 62, in SGC 2 are level 48 and one is level 50
nya
any new mon?
whos him?
No middle form? From the person named after a middle form???
How you do that tm thing?
I just put (TM)
Nice
Nice™️
Mister J will remember that
I love collecting trash
I sometimes find cards too
Not in [insert language here] clearly foreign bootlegs that belong in the trash
Its german qwq
Pikser ❤️
Oh, entwickeln means evolve? Neat, you learn something every day
I also collect randomly found pokemon cards. The collection's not big, but I'm still surprised I randomly found 3 pokemon cards on separate occasions 
You can see some german names too
The anticipation is killing me for the next official reveal
You missed the Goat reveal?
||I wish it was real qwq||
Skibiddo!
I can’t stop pronouncing it as Skiddoo from Blues Clues
Is that not how it’s pronounced?
I imagine not
It isn’t how that’s pronounced?
I dunno
It’s how I say it but it’s probably not
I'm not sure though
Until then
Well it is, at least according to the English Dub iirc
Bulbapedia says:
“Skiddo may be a combination of skid and kiddo (slang for kid, which is also a term used for young goats). However, the way it is pronounced in the anime implies it may be a corruption of skidoo.”
Looks like Skid-doo is correct according to the audio source
Yay!
Another source: Gamefaqs
I was was watching a YouTube video by the Escapist which basically reviewed the demos of Pokemon X and Y etc.
Anyways a worker from Nintendo pronounce Skiddo as
"skeh- doo"’
Side note, a Smogon forum preview when I searched this added a new pronunciation I’m shocked could even be made… and kinda find hilarious.
“Sky-dough”
Can we discuss tsareena design origin listed in bulpedia....
Aromatisse reveal today, i feel it in my bones
The main reason is that the design doesn't appeal to anyone.
The poofy dress + arms & legs + pink/black color scheme + small = what am i looking at
Sure
What does it even bring new to the game
Plague Doctor theme
A good handfull of Honch and murks do that already
Aromatisse does it better AND with scent cloud vfx, her fur is iconic and shes also a much needed pure fairy
There are 2 pure fairies that i would prefer over Aromatisse. Florges and Slurpuff
Although i dont want more fairies for now. Carbink satisfied me 
do we have a reveal today?
I say add all of the pure fairues tbh, carbink is very lovely but the crystal motif (which is the fun one) doesnt come paired with the fairy typing sadly, wish it was switched (even though rock type matches the head, its just not as compelling)
Wednesday Sounds likely too
It would be insane if they did that. All the other types would suffer smh
Hmm why?
I'd also love another fairy. Maybe not all of them at the moment, but eventually it'd be sweet
most of the ones left have amazing potential for fun designs
Id be down for either slurpuff or florges line in the 15 pokemon we got promised
we need slurpuff he is just too good for spriting
Cuz middle of the week sounds logical to me
Event start at thursday and sprites at the weekend
I hate to sprite it
Yeah im not that excited about slurpuff myself
But i think it adds valuable diversity
slurpuff! 
You always appear when we talk about slurpuff i swear 
i know what im about 
Ribbon when any fairy type gets mentioned -> 
((i do lurk a lot though
))
HJFJEJD TRUE
coming out of my well whenever i hear discussions of fairies
Do you have any slurpuffs to share perhaps? 
I would like a animal from the Bovidae group
Possibly a goat shaped bovine? (wait goat is bovidae right?)
I like the lolipop staff 
Thats why i said slurpuff adds valuable diversity
where else would we get that staff
Bovine is cows if I remember right
I thought bovine and bovidae meant the same thing but the latter was the fancy way to say it ._.
Bovidae is Horned ungulates
Slurpuff is like, essential
I think
Y
And at that point just add its counterpart
Yep
Yes
I didnt know.
I feel like they do break up later gen counter parts alot tho
Yeah sadly
IF is missing some counterparts of mons that are already in the game right?
Maybe?
Not to my knowledge
I could look through the dex quickly but im not aware of all the counterparts
Trevenant/Pumpkaboo?
some counterparts are a bit random and are just the version exclusive mons
You’re right
I categorize them together in my head atleast
Are they a pair? I never knew
Think so
pumpkaboo could be awsomeeee
i had a dream last night that i was playing IF and poochyena was in the game to buy for 500 like the magikarp, PLEASE i NEED my boy
pumpkadoo is exclusive to Y right?
Would be fun
I check
They can be obtained in both games but they are counterparts
huh interesting
this app is peak
Gothitelle/Reuniclus
Btw how will pumpkaboo sizes get handeld cuz they have diffrent stats
it will probably just be ignored
See
I went trough the list on bulbapedia and neither trevenant nor gourgeist are versions exclusive
they'd probably just go with normal stats and then have the different sizes be sprite changes
And which stats get used?
which size is the best one competitively?
Biggest
these I'm guessing
Yeah the only duo i found eas Gothitelle/Reuniclus 
True they are a duo
well the biggest one has a lower speed so it isnt objectively better
Id rather have the big boy for pif
if you're talking x and y then hondour is exclusive to x and electrike is y
What if he adds all forms and just changes the sizes of the sprite so we dont have to make extra sprites
what niche can pumpkaboo have in lower tiers?
now that would be funny
Worse Trevenant
Found the same for sun and moon but with Whimsicott/Liligant aswell
Whimsi and Lilli are always counterparts
lilligant confirmed?
Oh they are? Apparently i cant read then
Yeah, they are.
no sadly 
Well this were all to prove that pif likes to break counterparts which i think will continue
And therefore we get slurpuff and no aromatisse (if we get slurpuff)
does gogoat have a counterpart?
No.
They are I checked
I think we shouldn’t prioritize having missing counterparts if they’re lame
Nope
are you gaslighting me?
I think they meant i cant read sadly 
Me neither
when was lilligant confirmed then???
Yeah lets add team GoGo, Frufrou, gen 5 fossils and some other cool mons
Hello there
We talk about Lilli and whimsi being counterparts
I was replying to Zero's message. Not yours about lilligant being confirmed
Hey
Im back to see more of your theories
We still have the troll mon who is unknown
what if we added ALL alola bugs in one nice package?
The Bruxish Situation
Just add all the bugs
Give me crustle too
How is everything Zero?
I dont think its a Troll but more of a hint that we get more
Why would you want araquaniz
Good
crustle would be cool
Ngl I really want Golisopod but else I think Unova bug pack would be cooler
bubble guy and good colour palette (also cool ability)
Araquanid and vikavolt is super cool too
i mean volcarona is already in so crustle and what others?
Unova Bugs feel way more unique and diffrent to each other than Alola ones
Alola likes Blueish or water bugs


