#pif-hoenn-discussion

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marble meadow
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wait wasn,t there a manga where a human fused with a pokemon

stoic sluice
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Understandable

silk narwhal
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I'm gonna cry

ornate tide
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Spriting angles looks painful

silent acorn
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The newest announcement

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And it's nothing related to new monus

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Damn

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Brutal

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Well i guess Dimitri is a pokemon now

marble meadow
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nah its means it will be a russian pokemon xd

silent acorn
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You been Russed

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Man delphox killing it with fusions

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Man chestnaught is really unpopular

fathom ridge
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man i saw the announcement channel get a new message and i got so baited smh

marble meadow
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well would be funny if the next mon announce has thats not in if has the prankster ability

deft obsidian
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Liepard:0

silent acorn
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For how much I don't like Greninja some Fusions hit that sweep spot oh yes

fathom ridge
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doesnt riolu have prankster?

silent acorn
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Someone uh...

fathom ridge
silent acorn
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No

marble meadow
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from the mons not in if its volbeat illumise liepard

silent acorn
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I saw the Mismagius/Greninja

fathom ridge
silent acorn
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Luca goes hard

marble meadow
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for liepard its hidden ability

silent acorn
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May have to get it and fuse it

fathom ridge
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is probably the dream fusion of every 10 year old, but damn it just looks soooooo good

silent acorn
silent acorn
silent acorn
fathom ridge
stoic sluice
stoic sluice
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Tinky to be exactly

silent acorn
stoic sluice
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I sand screen shot of chat becose I thought it was funny

stoic sluice
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And yeah that was fast and unexpected

velvet root
dreamy pagoda
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Ogrepon not gonna be in this game actually hurts

velvet root
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Y

deft obsidian
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I think carbonk get the most sprites among new pokemons?

trail hull
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Simple and cute body , cool head to work with

ashen cloud
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wait is regigigas in if

trail hull
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Yes

fathom ridge
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carbink was actually goated, the gem fusions are great

deft obsidian
ashen cloud
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i thought cabink was a mid choice

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but now i’m realizing it is awesome

trail hull
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Now that I’m free from diglett I’m actually gonna be able to sprite fusions I want

fathom ridge
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i have also seen a lot of delphox and braixen

fathom ridge
deft obsidian
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I think new starters will get the next contest

coral axle
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Carbink is making beautiful fusions

inland jewel
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We've known that Carbink would make good fusions since people have been waiting for a gem mon to get in

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especially since some people have been hoping for Diancie who is Carbink adjacent

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simple enough to convert Diancie fusions into Carbink ones

inland jewel
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since Carbink is mainly gems, thats the focus people go for

fathom ridge
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but carbink is like more neutral, you dont need to add a lot of things other than gems and fluff

velvet root
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Carbink still feels kinda like a waste

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But maybe im just still annoyed from it being in the Winner vote twice

hollow creek
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im really excited for the next 15 pokemon

inland jewel
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The timeline where Anja chose another mon instead of Carbink and thats the one that won Winner poll instead of Lurantis

fathom ridge
hollow creek
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kinda wish crawdaunt wasnt in the winner vote, else i'd love him ingame

velvet root
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Its kinda cool
But it adds quiet some shit Carbing doesnt have

silent acorn
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Digglet diggleggery doo

velvet root
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Also many overdo it with textures on Carbing or random gem spikes

inland jewel
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I mean, Just because they're in Winner's vote doesn't mean that they aren't not eligable for the 15 slots

silent acorn
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Gotta do Chestnaught Digglus

inland jewel
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unless they specifically said that anything in Winner's vote cannot be added this tiem around

silent acorn
hollow creek
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I would say we could use more mons with body fusion potential but kommo-o lurantis and the kalos starters already have a lot of that

velvet root
silent acorn
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The fair question

fathom ridge
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i kinda wish for all the alola bugs to come in one nice package

inland jewel
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People will complain about to many bugs

silent acorn
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Will staff just give us these mons?

fathom ridge
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imagine we get golisopod, ribombee and vikavolt at the same time, it would be awsome

deft obsidian
bitter comet
inland jewel
silent acorn
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Bugs are like 80% biodiversity anyway

fathom ridge
inland jewel
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their percentage is like 46 or 49

inland jewel
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everything else is above 50 now

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with Dragon being at 80~

silent acorn
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Technically not

silent acorn
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Because Kommo is a line that counts two fighting types when fighting types are very little in number

silent acorn
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Should have just one more line for variety

silent acorn
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Although I don't want the Muppet Bros

inland jewel
fathom ridge
silent acorn
fathom ridge
silent acorn
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Mostly because I have never ever use it

deft obsidian
inland jewel
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It looks like it should be Grass/Steel

silent acorn
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And it unpopular as heck

inland jewel
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but no, its Grass/Fighting

velvet root
inland jewel
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tbh, I'd use Chesnaught over Greninja

silent acorn
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You know no wonder people don't sprite it

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It's hard to figure it's theming

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As much

velvet root
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Chestnaught is really cool Fusion material

silent acorn
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Maybe

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But it lacks traditional fighting theme

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The only theme it's being knight with shield really

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I dunno why

velvet root
silent acorn
inland jewel
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But looking at Courage's list. Bug is 49%
Electric is 51%
and Psychic is at 52% for least amount of pokemon per that type

silent acorn
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The shield hands

fathom ridge
velvet root
fathom ridge
silent acorn
fathom ridge
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Damn chestnaught lmao

silent acorn
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Doesn't really come to mind when you think of a fighting type

inland jewel
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considering Chesnaught's name is made up off the seondd half of Juggernaut

fathom ridge
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I don’t know how to read Quagless

inland jewel
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im thinking its fighting style is supposed to be endurance fighting

silent acorn
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Ermmmm

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Nah

silent acorn
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Too stretchy

deft obsidian
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Rapid Spin?

silent acorn
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Should have been Steel type

fathom ridge
inland jewel
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the literal giant thing on its back

silent acorn
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I mean

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Huh

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Never mind

inland jewel
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a timeline where its called Chesnight instad

fathom ridge
silent acorn
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Unless what type is armorogue and ceruledge?

inland jewel
velvet root
silent acorn
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Yeah neither is steel

bitter comet
silent acorn
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I was just checking

inland jewel
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Armarogue should have been Fire/Steel tbh

deft obsidian
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Lapras should be steel type too lie
Also samurott has shell

fathom ridge
silent acorn
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Fair

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Well shoo

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Two grass/fighting types are in now

velvet root
silent acorn
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There goes Toxicroak, Mienshao

inland jewel
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i mean, this isn't the first time that they made a pokemon thats quadrapedal in IRL to be 2 legged

fathom ridge
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Shouldn’t delphox be fairy type?

cobalt river
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i like chesnaught. because i like the mental image of it doing funny protective curl

inland jewel
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i mean look at Lucario heehee

silent acorn
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Well not like you can beat Charizard's more lady cousin

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Salazzle

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Feel the Frazzle

inland jewel
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alright back to the spriting mines with me

silent acorn
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Third in command of the top kekeke

inland jewel
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have fun all

silent acorn
bitter comet
velvet root
fathom ridge
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Do you think they wouldn’t repeat types?

cobalt river
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oooo kango chesnaught would be very cute pleadingmomo_lnd

velvet root
silent acorn
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The PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN

bitter comet
silent acorn
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IT HAS TO BE ADDED NEXT YEAR OR THE NEXT

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Point is. It Will come

fathom ridge
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If salazzle was posted in #1050404143807873157 as a fakemon I wouldn’t be surprised if people tagged rule 2

velvet root
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I would

finite thistle
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And when it does, I will be there to spread all the Toxic to all my opponent's Pokemon

silent acorn
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Spread the TOXICITY

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You know rules are made to be broken

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And there is no rule people aren't more willing to break than 2

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Hell someone broke rule 2 on my head with a castform Trollgar

fathom ridge
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Vaporeon smh

silent acorn
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not like people haven't done it already lol

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Well anyway

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I just like the palette

fathom ridge
deft obsidian
silent acorn
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Same as like Mienshao, except mienshao is better because whip hands

fathom ridge
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Do you think luppuny/salazzle could even exist?

silent acorn
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Pink and black is really slick

unkempt stone
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I really thought the thing in announcements was a new mon reveal

fathom ridge
deft obsidian
fathom ridge
silent acorn
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It can

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Just a really smug bunny

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To be fair salazzle is one of those rare fire pokemon that doesn't quite feature fire in its design

velvet root
silent acorn
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You'd only figure out after getting one

fathom ridge
silent acorn
silent acorn
fathom ridge
silent acorn
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Oh there we go

silent acorn
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Also the name it's a bit of a giveaway

deft obsidian
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If volcarona was gen 1 pokemon it was bug/flying

velvet root
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I think its cute

deft obsidian
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If hydreigon was gen 1 pokemon it was flying/dragon

fathom ridge
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I think salazzle has some animations with purple fire right?

silent acorn
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But another example is Blacephalon

silent acorn
fathom ridge
silent acorn
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😘👌

velvet root
silent acorn
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Yeah the bod is actually more of an infractor

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I am Just thinking

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Well could be her legs in the salazzle position spread like they are as a lizard then the hands down in the middle like a dog maybe?

fathom ridge
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Lupunny is more innocent than salazzle imo, but it’s kinda weird to say that

cobalt river
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lopunny as a head is honestly kind of ugly on 99% of pokemon due to the fluff just usually not having a good way to be slapped on tbh

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anyways salazzle/lop could be cute :]

spiral island
silent acorn
silent acorn
hollow creek
cobalt river
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diggersby actually might be more fun as a head fusion as much as that pains me JFJENF
at least there you can easily make all the fluff into mud clumps which are easier to slap on that just. regular round fluff. (also it has four colors to work with for heads, lop only has two (three if you want to use the megas colors but then you risk alting) and that does make working w it more lame as well)

silent acorn
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No nono stuff

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Unless it's the weather forms

hollow creek
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what if I like weather forms and base castform

fathom ridge
silent acorn
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I just prefer the other forms

fathom ridge
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castfrom has nothing wrong unless you have a dark mind

silent acorn
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Have more personality

silent acorn
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But your outfits look good

hollow creek
silent acorn
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It would have been actually neat if the freaking molecules were little arms

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But no

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For some reason they are those things in that position

glass patio
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castform is fine

silent acorn
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Anyway

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It's meh

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It's fine

fathom ridge
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i just realized, lurantis kinda looks like a hollow knight character Thonking

silent acorn
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Not great

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Not awful

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Just fine

hollow creek
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Now that Ubs and legendaries are possible I did a tier list on what I hope gets in

silent acorn
hollow creek
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I have no idea where it came from

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oh

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huh

silent acorn
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Yeah I don't know what it is

hollow creek
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WOAH

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thats a funny coincidence

silent acorn
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It's just there and when I click it it dissapears

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Then reappears once I click out of the image

fathom ridge
silent acorn
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Look, it isn't on the image once I click it

hollow creek
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I hope we get the xy legendaries man

stoic sluice
silent acorn
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Those big hairs could be use to make crazy stuff

hollow creek
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to clarify, the would be really nice tier is mostly what I voted 3, and the top is my absolute most wanteds

hollow creek
stoic sluice
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Oh got it

fathom ridge
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Gumshoos would be so funny for 5 minutes but then it would be kinda meh

hollow creek
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it does not have a lot going on at all

silent acorn
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Looks to be a really complicated one to implement

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It be neat

ashen cloud
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buzzwole tho

silent acorn
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But yeah looks very difficult

hollow creek
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I dont think frog wouldve had wishiwashi on the ballot if he wasnt able to get it working ingame, unless you mean sprites

silent acorn
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Pory approves

fathom ridge
silent acorn
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Sprites

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And how form change would end up working

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It'd be weird for it to become weak but not change sprites since that's its main characteristic

hollow creek
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body fusions would require creativity but as a spriter, wishiwashi heads of both forms are not crazy difficult

ashen cloud
fathom ridge
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wishiwashi would be great i love the idea of having pokemons made out of fishes

hollow creek
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Yeah kartana isnt my type

ashen cloud
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that’s valid

hollow creek
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now you wanna talk about difficulty to sprite, theres kartana

silent acorn
hollow creek
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Doesnt meloetta change form in battle?

silent acorn
silent acorn
hollow creek
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actually kartana heads wouldnt be bad, youd have to be as creative as youd have to be with wishiwashi

fathom ridge
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kartana doesnt sound that awful to sprite, like it wouldnt be easy but it wouldnt be that hard

hollow creek
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its articulating the folds that would be challenging

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guzzlord is also a menace to sprite, but for bodies

full bison
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All the UBs seem like they'd pose annoying challenges to sprite except Nihilego and maybe the Poipole line

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Xurkitree with all its wires, Celesteela with its awkward proportions, Blacephalon's multicolored everything...

hot hamlet
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Xurkitree is probably the next easiest based on how people managed to work the themes of similar technological Pokémon into head fuses

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Body is pretty much wire Sudowoodo

feral bear
full bison
ornate tide
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Dem Binkys

terse fable
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I've been likin da bink lately

ornate tide
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I’m still surprised that people thought diamonds wouldn’t make good sprites and carbink sprites would look boring

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💀

terse fable
terse fable
high haven
terse fable
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Some mons are just hard to see that at first, and diff ones for diff people lol

ornate tide
terse fable
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yeye like i said it depends on the personn

ornate tide
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I think people where doubting carbink because not many people sprited it before

terse fable
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fairr

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a lot of sprites have been made now thoo

full bison
ornate tide
terse fable
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It gives me like girl sableye or feminine sableye vibes in a good way, even tho I know it's like no gender or whatev

full bison
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But yeah, some Pokemon you just can't tell how good theyd be as fusion material until you see the sprites. Who would've thought that Klinklang would be a god-tier fusion material?

ornate tide
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Sableye gives me like tiny little gremlin sprite vibes

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While Carbink just gave me the idea of Majestic sprites and tiny goobers

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If you people can make good pyukumuku sprites someone can probably make a good luvdisc sprite also

terse fable
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yee idk they have a yin/yang vibe to me, especially now after seeing the sprites

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ive seen some fire luvdisc sprites

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just no one wants them lol

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same wth monkiess

full bison
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The problem I have with Luvdisc sprites is what can you do with it that you can't do with Alomomola

terse fable
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Ig, they have some notable differences tho sprite wise

ornate tide
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Then also some mons are easier to sprite than others

terse fable
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for actual usaage yea alo for sure tho

ornate tide
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And Artists can get a better grasp on them

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I have heard Carbink got the first contest because spriters knew what to do with it

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More than Kommo o and Lurantis

terse fable
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Kommo o does seem pretty hard without people who like/are used to doing him

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Like Bruxish

ornate tide
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Bruxish’s palette is hella fire for sprites

terse fable
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I'd consider them like higher tier difficulty mons for spriting

ornate tide
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Even though most people consider it to be the worse pokemon of all time

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Design wise

full bison
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Wishiwashi seems like the perfect amount of complexity without going overboard, but it has a similar problem to Meloetta when it comes to spriting

ornate tide
terse fable
ornate tide
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Maybe they will make it always in schooling mode and they nerf its stats a bit idk

full bison
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Wishiwashi without Schooling mode feels like it's removing alot of it's identity, but at the same time one form having a sprite while another has an autogen would be hella annoying

molten loom
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Depending on how it's done

terse fable
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I feel you can make quite a few broken mons already so whats one more lol

ornate tide
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But then it would basically be ability locked in fusions

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Because its stats would be so bad otherwise

terse fable
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If they can do meloetta form they can do schooling

ornate tide
terse fable
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yee most likely

full bison
terse fable
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or they say f it lol

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but for if showdown it will be

ornate tide
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Actually let me see if any of the schooling mons with fusions would be broken

terse fable
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bet

full bison
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If anything is keeping Wishiwashi Schooling from being OP, it's that HP stat

ornate tide
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In fusions

terse fable
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really depends

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maybe fusion to make ti faster for sweeps or one for more bulk and attack

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idkk

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I'm not sure what thestats for it even are lol

ornate tide
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Wishiwashi school you can’t even make it that fast

full bison
ornate tide
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And it isn’t that strong with electrode

terse fable
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ewwww that speed

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and the hp ooff

full bison
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Maybe Aegislash would be good but also no Stance Change would hold it back alot

terse fable
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but I mean a few choice fusions could maybe make it pop off

ornate tide
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You fuse it with Haxorus ngl

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Dragon dance mold breaker

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If you can used a unnerfed school form

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That shit would be insane

full bison
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Even without Mold Breaker Water/Dragon is always a hype type

ornate tide
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But then with schooling it’s not as big of a problem

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Probably not a problem at all

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Schooling is really mid

full bison
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it's such an awkward ability because Wishiwashi can't live with it and can't live without it

humble lance
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where new pokemans

full bison
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Maybe something with a decent HP would help, but all I can think of is Blissey and that would tank it's offenses

ornate tide
# humble lance where new pokemans

The new Pokémon’s are implemented in showdown but it may not be accurate because we don’t know the new learnsets and sprites are already being made for the mons and they are cool to look at

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They aren’t ingame yet tho

humble lance
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the 15

ornate tide
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Who knows

terse fable
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first one

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minior

full bison
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All we can do is wait and speculate

terse fable
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but I want drampa

humble lance
civic harness
terse fable
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Eel

humble lance
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i like them : >

terse fable
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banan

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dookie rock

silent acorn
terse fable
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danc plant

full bison
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I just want Mienshao

silent acorn
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And the other 8 Based taste

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Normal taste basically

humble lance
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u all should make ur own ideal 15 picks

full bison
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And also Naganadel but that would probably be a UB package deal

silent acorn
humble lance
full bison
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My ideal pick is all 11 UBs, Mienshao, and Golisopod. Not realistic, but my ideal

terse fable
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15 picks is hard when there's only a couple I really want and the rest I want and a few I kinda feel eh about

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but all the mons i want in

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I have guesses what I think they might be tho

civic harness
full bison
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More realistically, my list would be the Unova fossils, Mienshao line, Golisopod line, Musharna line, Bounsweet line, Sigilyph, and maybe a Mythical

terse fable
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I think Blacephon has a decent chance, a firework/celebrating type mon as a legendary/UB for the 500k celebration? doesn't seem that crazy

full bison
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If the UBs aren't a package deal, that would make sense

humble lance
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honestly i would appreciate it more if the ubs were added one at a time

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adding 11 mons all at once feels like a bit much

terse fable
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also the other gen starters missing I think have a decent shot, the pory stream and the way things were worded makes me not believe in that as much, but I still think that would make sense too

humble lance
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i hope alola would be next

full bison
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I don't see two separate groups of starters being added at once

terse fable
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cause they know people are gonna go crazy about the couple missing gens of starters lol, but yea that's not as likely

humble lance
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i wanna make a torracat luxio fusion but i need more torracat bases to work with for that PensivePokeball

terse fable
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My next big guesses would prob be the obv one's which are runner ups from the polls

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but with the lil delay between announcements here, i do have another theory

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that they're putting together more event kind of things to have the community decide the next 15 over the coming weeks

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and that's takin time

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But it could also be they're doing special/fun/troll announcements instead and they usually have art for that, so tthat could also be the case

stuck bane
terse fable
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ahh that makes sense too

stuck bane
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Dude I’d love to see art/troll/reveals again it’d be so much fun

terse fable
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yee exactlyy lol just hoping we get somethin soon I need a mon/playtest or something, anything Despair

full bison
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I feel like we will most likely be getting a Legendary from this considering it's a milestone

stuck bane
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Probably, complete Zygarde would be a good number 500

terse fable
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Yea I could believe a legend/mythical will be coming

stuck bane
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Or maybe a mythical, victini could make sense too

full bison
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Of all the available Mythicals, I'd probably want Marshadow or Magearna added the most

terse fable
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I still think based off the occasion Blacephon makes sense

astral sandal
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Have the kalos starters been added to the game yet? i just started a new save and wanted to use one as my starter but the the most recent mon i can use is Necrozma or Bruxish

terse fable
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Just would have to find a way to do it

feral bear
stuck bane
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Idk about Blacephalon, isn’t it a counterpart?

silent acorn
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Teach me your ways master

molten loom
astral sandal
stuck bane
full bison
feral bear
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carbink pangoro would go so hard tbh

stuck bane
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Bruh there’s more Jojos than just jotaro

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But I would like Pangoro

astral sandal
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im imagining a carbink steelix fusion where its a mega steelix a carbink imbeded in steelix's head

stuck bane
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Might’ve already been made, easy concept and carbink has been confirmed for a while

silent acorn
terse fable
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Or just a big steelix with a bunch of lil carbinks embed in it

silent acorn
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I kinda gave up on pangoro

terse fable
stuck bane
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First one when I searched steelix in sprite gallery

full bison
stuck bane
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Panda

terse fable
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I like panda

silent acorn
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Done with my wishlist

zealous lichen
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Pancham would have been fun to add

silent acorn
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My top 15

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I would love to add lilligant in there but like that'd be too greedy and harmful to variety

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I can wait

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And before you ask

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Yes

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The 10 Fufrous count as one

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I omit my obvious choices lilligant and sawsbuck, even gogoat

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Drampa is about the only Single Dragon I give enough of a damn about to add

dusty arrow
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drampa is peak

terse fable
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fire list

silent acorn
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Thank you for your kind words

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Could add Excadrill but even I'd admit sandslash is still fire at the moment

green laurel
silent acorn
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AT ALL

green laurel
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aight

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and what about minior

silent acorn
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It's just part of how it is

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Can't do nuthin bout that

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It's like with aegislash

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Doesn't count as two mons

green laurel
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aight

dusty arrow
silent acorn
# silent acorn

Honestly I could replace Furfrou with Komala just because of Komala's gimmick but, the 10 different designs and furfrou's solid ability give it an edge

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Also it's a dog

silent acorn
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But

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Honestly I wouldn't be too excited RIGHT NOW, kinda need other stuff

dusty arrow
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but i think frog hates dog pokemon

silent acorn
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Plus is the best one out of the remaining dogs

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Manectric cant mega... And I personally am not into the base one

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I like the mega

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But I am not about that life with the base

dusty arrow
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i dont really care much for manectric tbh

silent acorn
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It's not, anything that makes me go "WOAH DUDE"

dusty arrow
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like its the best gen 3 electric type.. because the other ones are plusle and minun
and its pre-evo

silent acorn
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In fact many of the electric ones not in except Eelektross elicit that response from me

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Eelektross is still peak in my heart for electric

dusty arrow
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i like xurkitree

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but xurkitree wasnt in this vote unfortunately

silent acorn
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Cables and stuff

silent acorn
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Pretty underwhelming

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You hat Watson who used it as it's ace but I was like

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Eh

dusty arrow
silent acorn
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It gets tail glow? If I could I'd put it first

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But have to be real

silent acorn
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Staff chooses myths and stuffs now

dusty arrow
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it does heehee

silent acorn
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Super saiyan white hair and black cables? Yes please

dusty arrow
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base 173 special attack and it gets tail glow

silent acorn
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All UBs tend to rank very high for me

terse fable
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I want guzzlord tbr

silent acorn
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Except Nihilego, Blacephalon and the bamboo one

dusty arrow
silent acorn
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But even those are neat

dusty arrow
silent acorn
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I just know it because it's the bamboo moon princess thing

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Pretty neat

dusty arrow
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today i learned this is what baby celesteela looks like

silent acorn
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But also convulated

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Awwwwww adorable

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See it's a bamboo shoot

dusty arrow
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lil bamboo shoot

silent acorn
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Like its a neat concept

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I just think it's perhaps a bit too specific tho lol

dusty arrow
silent acorn
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Most of the UBs are these nebulous conceptual beings

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Then there is celesteela being a sort of tale reference

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Not bad

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Just different

dusty arrow
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like imo stakataka just feels like..

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a like

silent acorn
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Prix promoted stakataka

dusty arrow
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regional unown evo

silent acorn
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To like the Room Pokemon

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Pretty high and insane concept imo

dusty arrow
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stakataka has a funny japanese name though

silent acorn
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Imagine fighting a pokemon that looks like a room

dusty arrow
silent acorn
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Lol

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That's a funny name

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Would have been better

dusty arrow
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why do you not like nihilego as much as the others

silent acorn
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Tuntuntun

dusty arrow
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i mean

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fuck not nihilego

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blacephalon

silent acorn
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But like

dusty arrow
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(also blacephalons japanese name is zugadoon which i find hilarious)

silent acorn
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They have to be ordered somewhat

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I still think it would be a wayyyyyyy better addition than the special event pokemon of Alola

dusty arrow
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i love the michael jackson clown

silent acorn
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Like I don't give a hoot about Marshadow and Zeraora

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Nor magearna

dusty arrow
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...

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ok not really

silent acorn
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In general I usually don't like those event ones

dusty arrow
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its in that weird inbetween state

silent acorn
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It's ugh complicated

dusty arrow
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it was first shown in gen 6 but released in gen 7

silent acorn
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Why I don't like em except Diancie and Hoopa

dusty arrow
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AZ FLOETTE WHEN

silent acorn
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Dimensional Genie gets away because super multiversal power level

dusty arrow
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guzzlords japanese name goes kinda hard

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akuziking

silent acorn
silent acorn
dusty arrow
silent acorn
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Could be neat tho, just the move

dusty arrow
dusty arrow
silent acorn
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Sounds like Sean Shemmel step on a lego

silent acorn
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Weird

dusty arrow
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also florges has a really high bst what

silent acorn
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By one

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Lol

dusty arrow
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dragon pulse

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doesnt really have a use for you

silent acorn
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wrong channel

chilly charm
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Ooh sorry

silent acorn
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This one is to discuss new pokemon

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No worries

chilly charm
dusty arrow
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👍

silent acorn
chilly charm
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Will do

silent acorn
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👍

silent acorn
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Man carbink crystals go hard

grave jolt
stuck bane
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How fucking funny would it be if they included random shit like eternal flower floette and notch eared pichu but still never added dusk Lycanroc

hot hamlet
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But… notch eared Pichu is an alt… same with Ukulele Pichu

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So if anything EFF should be an alt too

coral axle
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I’d be so hyped if Florges line got in
I understand if not cause of flabebe but

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Joltik does have sprites so

hot hamlet
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Flabebe gets in and suddenly I have a new candidate for Smol theme

coral axle
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Any nature/crystal/pink pokemon that gets in I’m excited either way

hot hamlet
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Speaking of I’m stuck on the Jewelry theme at 4/6. Even including Carbink, ran out of fusions that actually turn into jewelry

coarse karma
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BHkndCP2Rg reminder Spheal has it's own documentary. :3

The third episode of Pokearth. Spheal are curious little creatures that like to explore. But the freezing temperatures will pose a threat if they're not careful...

Narrator: Paul Warren https://x.com/NeverNotNinjas
Help with script-writing: Mhia https://www.twitch.tv/alchemhia

Patreon: https://patreon.com/EnlargedKai
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hot hamlet
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May need to abandon concept and just pick fusions that look decked out

grave jolt
hot hamlet
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But the problem is it’s just a recolor aesthetically. And the means of gaining it mean you can’t just do something like Necrozma.
Only compromise I can come up with is if you did a flower thing like Oricorio

grave jolt
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Honestly, I could see doing the flower thing Oricorio has as viable. hell, I think most EFF fans would be happy if there was just a move tutor in the game for the unique move.

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Either way, crimson city seems like a thematic place for such

dreamy pagoda
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Does anyone have original size sprites for the Fenniken line?

glass patio
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holy shit i need more of this

dreamy pagoda
silent acorn
# grave jolt

Well this makes it easier to start for me. Thank you pachi girl

inland jewel
clear lichen
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That said, I still doubt it'd be added

glass patio
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brother you can’t even get eternal flower floette officially ditto

clear lichen
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Wow that is

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A terribly constructed sentence

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I should sleep

gloomy rover
steel meadow
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Gen 8+ mons Despair

gloomy rover
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Are Gen 8 & 9 not allowed?

steel meadow
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Yeah they arent allowed :[

gloomy rover
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bummer

proud lion
steel meadow
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Not yet anyhow

proud lion
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In the words of the mods:

fallen loom
steel meadow
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1-2. Croagunk - Toxicroak (Poison/Fighting)
3. Torkoal (Fire)
4-5. Skiddo - Gogoat (Grass)
6-7. Dwebble - Crustle (Rock/Bug)
8-10. Spheal-Sealeo-Walrein (Water/Ice)
11-12. Drillbur/Excadrill (Ground/Steel)
13-15. Tynamo/Eelektrik/Eelektross (Electric) [I could accept this being swapped with Florges line]

List of my hopes and dreams. I tried to spread out the types

fallen loom
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I don't think we'll get that many normal Pokémon, I feel like half of the rest will be Legendary or some forms

steel meadow
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My predicition would be absolutely max 3 legendaries

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Those 3 being gen 6 box legends + zygarde or hopefully diancie

fallen loom
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I feel like we have to get Lunala and Solgaleo, which also means Cosmog and Cosmoem

steel meadow
fallen loom
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why?

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Necrozma is in the game

steel meadow
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Unless they skip gens like the starters

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I think being this unconsistent with special mons/starters are adding alot new player confusion

fallen loom
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Necrozma hints at Solgaleo and Lunala, like how Regigigas hinted at other Regis

steel meadow
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I mean i guess

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I just think it would be a shit decision thats all

fallen loom
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I get that, but I think adding Necrozma first was a shit decision

steel meadow
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Yes.

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I really dislike Necrozma heehee

fallen loom
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maybe Zygarde will also be added to hint at Xerneas and Yveltal

steel meadow
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My biggest hope is still Diancie to reward ribbon and because we got carbink

fallen loom
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yeah

steel meadow
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Or they add the best legendary into the game

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Gogoat

silent acorn
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Gimme gimme and I'll vote 3 for it next time

steel meadow
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Honestly

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Havent seen any

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I just think the game desperately need ice types and Walrein seems like the most likely ice type to me

gloomy rover
steel meadow
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Holy marshadow enjoyer omg

gloomy rover
humble lance
lunar yacht
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I would love to see armarouge and clauncher so he can finally have MEGA LAUNCHER

humble lance
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posting the blank template again for anyone else wanting to make their own list

rain locust
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These are the Pokemon I'd like to see added

thorny ferry
clear lichen
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Talking about giving Armarouge Mega Launcher won't change the fact that it has 0 STAB affected by it

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Or that Mega Launcher doesn't even buff any Fire or Psychic moves

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And "oh, they didn't bother" isn't a valid excuse

rain locust
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simply mod if to make armor cannon a pulse move

clear lichen
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Remember, Population Bomb is boosted by Sharpness because of a pun

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Though, maybe it's just Armour Cannon being weird?

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It strikes me as the type of move to be blocked by Bulletproof

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But it isn't

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So who knows

lunar yacht
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If i fused armarouge and clawitzer then water pulse would be stab

clear lichen
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Apparently, some cannon moves are effected by Bulletproof, but some are not

rain locust
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itd also only be 90 bp so just slightly better surf

clear lichen
rain locust
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and id rather use hydro pump

lunar yacht
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Yeah but i want megaman

clear lichen
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And yeah I'd honestly rather use Hydro Pump

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OK wait I'm confused now why is Bulletproof blocking cannon moves inconsistent

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What is the lore here

grave jolt
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Why'd I use Clawitzer, Quagsire is the ideal Water Type

lunar yacht
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Ceruledge Absol or Gallade would be p cool too

grave jolt
finite thistle
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I wish Mega Launcher was given to a Dragon, Fighting or Dark type instead of just a Water

clear lichen
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Trust me

finite thistle
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Though it does mean that Clawitzer is a potential full team build around because you could fuse one for each of the different Mega Launcher stabs. Though that is still only 4

grave jolt
lunar yacht
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Heal Pulse armarouge :,)

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THATS A LOTTA DAMAGE HEALING

clear lichen
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Because double battles barely exist

lunar yacht
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Ive been playing the game in doubles mode

finite thistle
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Yeah, the Heal Pulse thing is kinda cool. Might be a decent Idea for doubles

clear lichen
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Though, there is a double battle and triple battle only mode

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There's something, I guess

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Bro I need to know why Bulletproof is inconsistent in blocking cannons

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What is their reasoning

grave jolt
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I wish Heal Pulse could self target

rain locust
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so recover

clear lichen
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When do they decide which cannon is blocked by Bulletproof

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And which is not

finite thistle
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I've been thinking about doing a double battle run, but there's a few Pokemon that I'd still really want in the game before I feel its unique enough. Passimium and Deddenne are the big ones the latter because it solves Plus/Minus' biggest issue of only being on Ground weak mons

clear lichen
inland jewel
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Man I know Remix mode is gonna go wild with Bulletproof

clear lichen
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I'm busy wondering why something like Zap Cannon or Octazooka are blocked

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But something like Spike Cannon or Flash Cannon aren't

inland jewel
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Flash cannon is presumably where they launch a beam of light

clear lichen
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Tbf a lot of them are signatures, with Fleur, Dmax and Armor Cannon

inland jewel
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Octozooka is an orb of water

rain locust
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maybe based on different japanese name or anime appearance

finite thistle
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Orb of ink

clear lichen
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Or well not iirc

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According to Bulbapedia

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You can't "Oh this is simply energy and hence it gets blocked" me

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Since Zap Cannon is just a bunch of electricity

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Yknow, electrical energy

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And also Searing Shot being thermal energy

inland jewel
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Thing is the electrical energy is an orb shape

clear lichen
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Last I checked, this is Bulletproof, not Heatproof or Electricity Proof

inland jewel
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This can be blocked

rain locust
clear lichen
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Armor Cannon is also orb shaped iirc

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So why isn't that blocked?

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Hydro Cannon is also orb shaped

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That isn't blocked either

inland jewel
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This not blocked by bulletproof

clear lichen
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Idk about you, but I'm talking about a game mechanic

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Oh, and according to bulbapedia, it has also been shown as an orb in the Anime

inland jewel
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Due to budgeting reasons they reused animations but it’s supposed to be a jet of water

lunar yacht
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Energy Ball should be added to Pulse moves

clear lichen
inland jewel
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they obviously updated it from an orb move

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since as you can see in the can be blocked by bulletproof some moves no longer are blocked

clear lichen
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Well, it is still an orb in game

inland jewel
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but some moves have been updated to be blocked

clear lichen
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I do not see why the games would go off anime logic

twin phoenix
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I forgot what Armor Cannon was and looked it up.. that's a mega buster shot.

clear lichen
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And completely ignore the logic of their games

inland jewel
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its happened before

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like the level 5 salamence in Alola

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or Mar's Level 16 Purugly

clear lichen
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And you're telling me it has happened like this for 4 generations in a row?

inland jewel
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apparently

weak trellis
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I mean anything can be level 1-40 if you can import it from GO nowadays (ok level 15/20-40 in some cases) since their evolutions are independent of level

grave jolt
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Before you say "that's just Gen 1" they didn't fix it in FRLG

full bison
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Also Lance's Dragonites in GSC and I think they're underleveled in RBY too

grave jolt
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In RBY they're 62, in SGC 2 are level 48 and one is level 50

molten latch
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Hello

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What did I miss?

humble lance
simple gulch
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any new mon?

deft obsidian
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Dimitri I guess

simple gulch
hot hamlet
hot hamlet
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How you do that tm thing?
I just put (TM)

humble lance
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™️

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: tm :

hot hamlet
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Nice

humble lance
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Nice™️

hot hamlet
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Mister J will remember that

velvet root
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I love collecting trash
I sometimes find cards too

hot hamlet
velvet root
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Its german qwq

sinful smelt
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Oh, entwickeln means evolve? Neat, you learn something every day

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I also collect randomly found pokemon cards. The collection's not big, but I'm still surprised I randomly found 3 pokemon cards on separate occasions heehee

velvet root
unkempt stone
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The anticipation is killing me for the next official reveal

velvet root
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||I wish it was real qwq||

sinful smelt
unkempt stone
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I can’t stop pronouncing it as Skiddoo from Blues Clues

spare dagger
unkempt stone
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I imagine not

hot hamlet
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It isn’t how that’s pronounced?

unkempt stone
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I dunno

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It’s how I say it but it’s probably not

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I'm not sure though

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Until then

spare dagger
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Well it is, at least according to the English Dub iirc

hot hamlet
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Looks like Skid-doo is correct according to the audio source

spare dagger
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Yay!

hot hamlet
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Another source: Gamefaqs

I was was watching a YouTube video by the Escapist which basically reviewed the demos of Pokemon X and Y etc.

Anyways a worker from Nintendo pronounce Skiddo as

"skeh- doo"’


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Side note, a Smogon forum preview when I searched this added a new pronunciation I’m shocked could even be made… and kinda find hilarious.
“Sky-dough”

stoic sluice
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Can we discuss tsareena design origin listed in bulpedia....

feral bear
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Aromatisse reveal today, i feel it in my bones

stoic sluice
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Aromatisse line is pretty cool actually

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Why so many people hate it that much?

molten latch
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The main reason is that the design doesn't appeal to anyone.

spare dagger
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The poofy dress + arms & legs + pink/black color scheme + small = what am i looking at

velvet root
spare dagger
velvet root
feral bear
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Aromatisse does it better AND with scent cloud vfx, her fur is iconic and shes also a much needed pure fairy

steel meadow
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There are 2 pure fairies that i would prefer over Aromatisse. Florges and Slurpuff

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Although i dont want more fairies for now. Carbink satisfied me happo

unique flame
steel meadow
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I dont think so?

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My guess is friday still

feral bear
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I say add all of the pure fairues tbh, carbink is very lovely but the crystal motif (which is the fun one) doesnt come paired with the fairy typing sadly, wish it was switched (even though rock type matches the head, its just not as compelling)

velvet root
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Wednesday Sounds likely too

steel meadow
steel meadow
feral bear
mystic crystal
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I'd also love another fairy. Maybe not all of them at the moment, but eventually it'd be sweet

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most of the ones left have amazing potential for fun designs

steel meadow
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Id be down for either slurpuff or florges line in the 15 pokemon we got promised

unique flame
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we need slurpuff he is just too good for spriting

velvet root
# steel meadow Hmm why?

Cuz middle of the week sounds logical to me
Event start at thursday and sprites at the weekend

velvet root
steel meadow
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Yeah im not that excited about slurpuff myself

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But i think it adds valuable diversity

cobalt river
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slurpuff! sobble_pray

steel meadow
cobalt river
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i know what im about evilShroomish

steel meadow
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Ribbon when any fairy type gets mentioned -> malicious

cobalt river
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((i do lurk a lot though acLaugh ))

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HJFJEJD TRUE

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coming out of my well whenever i hear discussions of fairies

steel meadow
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Do you have any slurpuffs to share perhaps? popkern

cobalt river
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heres two! PartyDitto

velvet root
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I would like a animal from the Bovidae group

steel meadow
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Possibly a goat shaped bovine? (wait goat is bovidae right?)

steel meadow
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Thats why i said slurpuff adds valuable diversity

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where else would we get that staff

velvet root
steel meadow
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I thought bovine and bovidae meant the same thing but the latter was the fancy way to say it ._.

velvet root
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Bovidae is Horned ungulates

feral bear
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Slurpuff is like, essential

velvet root
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I think

velvet root
feral bear
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And at that point just add its counterpart

steel meadow
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Huh

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Aromatisse is its counterpart?

velvet root
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Yep

feral bear
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Yes

steel meadow
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I didnt know.

twin phoenix
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Yup.

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Swirlix and Clauncher are X exclusive.

steel meadow
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I feel like they do break up later gen counter parts alot tho

velvet root
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Yeah sadly

fathom ridge
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IF is missing some counterparts of mons that are already in the game right?

steel meadow
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Maybe?

trail hull
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Not to my knowledge

steel meadow
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I could look through the dex quickly but im not aware of all the counterparts

feral bear
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Mawile was in without sableye for like, ever

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But idk about now

steel meadow
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Trevenant/Pumpkaboo?

fathom ridge
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some counterparts are a bit random and are just the version exclusive mons

trail hull
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You’re right

steel meadow
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I categorize them together in my head atleast

feral bear
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Are they a pair? I never knew

trail hull
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Think so

fathom ridge
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pumpkaboo could be awsomeeee

mighty moss
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i had a dream last night that i was playing IF and poochyena was in the game to buy for 500 like the magikarp, PLEASE i NEED my boy

fathom ridge
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pumpkadoo is exclusive to Y right?

velvet root
mighty moss
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route 16 for both

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30% chance

velvet root
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They can be obtained in both games but they are counterparts

fathom ridge
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huh interesting

mighty moss
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this app is peak

steel meadow
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Gothitelle/Reuniclus

velvet root
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Btw how will pumpkaboo sizes get handeld cuz they have diffrent stats

fathom ridge
velvet root
trail hull
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I went trough the list on bulbapedia and neither trevenant nor gourgeist are versions exclusive

mighty moss
# velvet root See

they'd probably just go with normal stats and then have the different sizes be sprite changes

velvet root
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And which stats get used?

fathom ridge
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which size is the best one competitively?

trail hull
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Biggest

mighty moss
steel meadow
fathom ridge
steel meadow
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Id rather have the big boy for pif

mighty moss
velvet root
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What if he adds all forms and just changes the sizes of the sprite so we dont have to make extra sprites

fathom ridge
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what niche can pumpkaboo have in lower tiers?

velvet root
steel meadow
velvet root
fathom ridge
steel meadow
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Oh they are? Apparently i cant read then

twin phoenix
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Yeah, they are.

fathom ridge
steel meadow
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Well this were all to prove that pif likes to break counterparts which i think will continue

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And therefore we get slurpuff and no aromatisse (if we get slurpuff)

fathom ridge
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does gogoat have a counterpart?

twin phoenix
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No.

velvet root
trail hull
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I think we shouldn’t prioritize having missing counterparts if they’re lame

velvet root
fathom ridge
steel meadow
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I think they meant i cant read sadly heehee

fathom ridge
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when was lilligant confirmed then???

velvet root
civic harness
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Hello there

velvet root
steel meadow
velvet root
civic harness
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Im back to see more of your theories

trail hull
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We still have the troll mon who is unknown

fathom ridge
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what if we added ALL alola bugs in one nice package?

civic harness
steel meadow
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Give me crustle too

civic harness
velvet root
trail hull
velvet root
fathom ridge
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crustle would be cool

velvet root
fathom ridge
steel meadow
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Araquanid and vikavolt is super cool too

fathom ridge
velvet root
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Unova Bugs feel way more unique and diffrent to each other than Alola ones
Alola likes Blueish or water bugs