#pif-hoenn-discussion
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I just hope the gogoat is atleast close this time around. 15 new mons should mean a little goat action could be squeezed in 
were not actually getting dino with a sword on the back right? 
but there's no pseudos left besides single stage dragons

If gen 8+ was added there would he dragapult and baxcalibur
pseudos are overrated
If they do add a gen 8+ mon I'd be down for tinkaton
mon with weapon designs is always fun
Does Dragalge count as a single stage dragon if it is a 2 stage line but it is the only one that is a dragon
I do hope goat and espurr make it in before then
Do it; revert to monki.
its 2 stage even the dragon is only the last stage
If 9 of our slots end up being monkeys ill cry 
i feel like frog would do that out of spite
This math is not mathing
I still think its Barbaracle if frog decides to do a bit of trolling
Now my boy Klefki/Bisharp here would look cool as a Kingambit...
kingdom hearts moment
kingdom hearts
epic!
I will not pretend it's not there
Theres totally a Gogoat/Rayquaza on number 40~ 
Welp, Seismitoad will probably be #500, because Frog is our overlord.
But, i'm a little worried about my girl Blissey/Ursaring being an Urslauna fusion, especially with all the peat on Ursaluna's face...
Is that the last frog?
Croagunk still not in as well*
Man how did i forget Croagunk. It was one of my 3 votes last time around
Toxicroak/Gallade or Toxicroak/Bisharp or Kingambit, tho?
Goober
Type-Wise, Toxisharp. Flavor-wise, Toxisharp, lol
when are we gonna get Yvetal, Xerneas, and Zygarde mang
Can we get the Pokemon that the winners decided on from the contests in the fusion event?
no, fuck slurpuff

Whenever they decide to reveal the remaining 15 slots I guess
I need to make extremely clever widget triple fusions sprites
I feel like it’ll be a weekly or so thing to try and be dragged out, then followed by or bleeding into a Halloween reveal or something
And then going from there
gourgeist for halloween rush event?
Would be nice, I’d like it
its pretty much guaranteed
I wanna make Yu-Gi-Oh jokes with a Xerneas / Yveltal / Zygarde triple fusion
Because XYZ
Go all out and make VWXYZ cannon
Also take one of the Kalos legendary trio and fuse them with Unown as the body for just
The letter in times new roman font
if zygarde gets in I'm curious about how the percent forms work with it
any more announcements today?
after the starter trio, probably not, since they want to give spriters some time to make stuff for them
You’re not missing much, reveals are fun but everything revealed is eventually added to the game anyways, which is probably the point I boot up the next nuzlocke attempt I’ll do
i think one miss opportunity that Winner Poll didn't do is try to push for Alolan Forms
but lik the one guy got Oricorio added simply to allow pokemon with multiple forms
I think alolan forms unfortunately have the issue of dusk Lycanroc, too similar in guess the fusion (that’s frogs reasoning, latis and Gastly still exist)
I'm crossing my fingers for Lunala! Mostly because I'm biased and it's my fav pokemon but also because lunala fusions would be so gorgeous! 😄
I thought that one guy was kiwi and it was a staff pick revealing forms now work
yee thast what i meant, Forms work so it'd be cool if more forms got added
but aside from Lycanroc and Meloetta no other form mons got added
That too
wishiwashi would be interesting to add
Those*
Could always hard-code it in that in Simple Mode, Latias can't show up as an option if it's Latios, and vice-versa
And with Advanced Mode uh, it's funny
if you read the first few sentences of what we talked about before
Not an announcement, but in the stream we saw that you can put hats on pokemon
cute
Anyways besides alolan exeggutor, frog would probably use that argument to shut down regional forms. Not saying I agree, but it’s how he shut down dusk form Lycanroc
Woah what? That’s so cool
I'm still unfathomably excited for the hats on pokemon thing
Like, even more than any of the new Pokemon coming to the game, and I love Lurantis and the Kalos mons
You will unlock it after a quest in pewter
Ngl that’s way more exciting than kalos starters reveal, let me put tf2 hats on all my Pokémon it will be so fun and make me more attached to them
Well it's just the hats in the game
New Nuzlocke rule: you have to put a hat on each of your Pokemon
Fashionlocke was talked about during the stream
*puts a baseball cap on my edgy lord of the reverse world aka giratina
Fuck the kalos starter hints, should’ve just been hat hints, those were the main appeal point
But also it's a very nice thing to have as a surprise
This is a rule I’m unironically using, the minute it becomes available in the nuzlocke
Me too
Yeah but it was better than the main event soooooo
Just hope there's like... at least 6 hats
Whos gonna be the new mon?
6 different hats
Should’ve hyped it up way more than “it’s Gen 6 starters don’t bother showing up”
@molten loom I made a monke.
Mons, 474 and 475, and 488 - 500
we have a lot more coming im excited
It’ll be a lot unless it’s Lilligant, starters, and 3 Zygarde forms
I WAKE UP JUST TO SEE A BUNCH OF KALOS STARTERS FLOODING THE SPRITE GALLERY LET'S GOOOOOO
lol
Whatever it is I’m excited, 1 step closer to full Gen 7 roster and ultimate randomized nuzlocke runs
now we just need 474 and 475 to be revealed for this fusion to be real 
volbeat Illumise
i'd be ok with it. cause of that stantler fusion.
show
oh a silly
It's a little goober
ye
“Yeah kalos starters are cool, but have you ever put a hat on your Pokémon?”
we got the cool delphox and lil silly stant.
Gen 5 players: 
the only two volbeat fusions in the server 
for now~
Stunning
Wait was that actually a thing, I forget and I’m the ultimate Gen 5 player here, unless you mean the uhhhhh one game from Gen 5
Yeah but the anime did, you didn’t
Yes you could dress up your pokemon in gen 5
Yeah the fashion game
I loved that fashion game as a kid
I can’t believe I forgot about that
lol this gif
Yeah it was fun
I get to give Spamton a hat
This truly was an infinite fusions
oh yeah, the Play stage thing, where your pokemon becomes a Theatre Kid.
It was a forced event
Fuck kalos starters, hats mechanic from Gen 5 was the best reveal
Yeah and it’s been 13 years now
Did blue fade again?
Yep
Yeah I dunno if Frog can beat the hat surprise
They said another sacrifice would come
Haha lose blue
Gen 5 starters would do it for me
I remember having my swadloon throw a cane and i was thinking "wonder who in the crowd got hit by that flying cane."
Absolutely stunning
The only thing that would be more hype than the hats reveal, for me,
Would be golisopod
Because then I could give Golisopod a hat
I just dont really know how that hats are going to be done
With style
That's a funny pokemon to give a hat lol
You manually place them in game
CURSE OF POD track record:
Spriter vote: 2nd place
Main vote: 2nd place
Special vote: 3rd place
Raffle: “won” the first spin
Golisopod is ash Ketchum
You can adjust their position
It was shown on stream Pory did
oh ok I thought the spriters were going to have to do it
No we will do it
sounds good to me
Did they state before spinning the raffle that it'd be an elimination round?
Because if not, then that's really funny
Yes right before it
bet 
Idk I wasn’t there, but I know goliso went first. It seems like they weren’t told because a ton of people seemed to be faked out
huh, i just realized i don't think there are many jevil fusions
We were told people didn't listen or tuned in just after being told
Or misheard
yeah they said right before the spinning started that this is an elimination raffle
"Before we spin this, letting you guys know that this is a last pokemon standing wins raffle
the last pokemon on this wheel gets added
Do we know if we will have ash-greninja in the game?
Gotcha. Was simply curious
If you combine a fire type with greninja, you could, technically, obtain an "ashen" greninja!
see @hidden relic , ur scheme of adding 500 mon cant pass my prediction
In the main games, the other Kalos starters should have gotten battle bond forms too

They should've given Charizard a battle bond form
No, never speak again
it's why pokemon that have multiple votes have a likelier chance of staying in further rounds
Can't believe Charizard doesn't have a battle bond form, and 4 mega evolutions, and 4 gigantimax forms, as well as unique animations for every move in the game, they clearly don't love charizard smh...
Whats the best type combo for Greninja?
Don't make jokes, they're not funny
Hard to say. It's water typing with steel or dragon is great defensively
I think you could also do something with a Poison/Dark typing
True. Personally thinking of doing a lucario and greninja fusion, though I would have water/steel or dark/fighting depending on the order
I want to do Greninja and Blaziken really bad
if you truly loved Charizard, you would demand he get a form/variant of him of every typing on top of all the things you mention 
That could be neat
I am awake now, and news are so sick. Maybe now will I get golisopod line...
It would be funny if the last 13 pokemon are completely random
Rattata/Sandshrew/Ekans triple fusion. Make it so we can complete what team rocket failed to do...
The colours have faded
Ruh roh!
Eeee
So is red
I made another for no reason at all. I don't even like the monkies
this one's more politoed than Monke tho.
yveltal
NOT THE MONKE
altho this one looks more like a teletubby
im letting this pass
omg I thought the same thing this whole time and was laughing while I made it. lol it's so goofy looking.
I will cling onto color as long as possible
I am no longer anything
They must’ve just removed bread
*red
no
im stoked not matter what we are getting 30 new pokemon added in total
Give it a handbag like the purple one! 🤣
not the Red actually orange Role
Maybe
Bisharp can be a good mix
Ive already use it to fuse Tyrantrum
based
Its either Bisharp, Skarmory or any steel pokemon
No more bread?!
It has sadly all been teleported away 
greninja/lucario i feel has a lot of potential. water/steel special attacker with an excellent movepool
Faded into the void
What do you mean colored rolls? We never had those. Are you feeling all right? 
Colourblind mode: [ON]
Also I find it so funny that my joke about blue fading when I really just got spriter applicant was done right before the colors got removed
We speculate what could be in the remaining slots
bye 
nah
oh god im blue again
Ok
oh?

Discord moment
your discord loves green
I'm human!
For some reason
Green Bean Squad reppin 
Discord in mobile doesnt work
It works like 60% of the time
On my screen no
13 more pokemon means munna still has a chance [lying to myself]
If it somehow is the UBs I would be happy but I'm content with Carbink being cute
Musharna's dream mist thing could lead to some silly dream-focused fusions. Like Bagon dreaming of being Salamence
or Cubone crying in its sleep imagining its mother
Poor guy suffers enough in its fusions, leave them alone 😦
I think musharna has a lot of opportunities for fun and sad fusions
Samurott and Serperior did not deserve to die for Emboring's sins
Samehrott

that whole generation of starters has design issues that i dont fw
no arms grass type, big fat fire type, dog shaped water type
i dont like when starters look like pets
Better than them looking like guys in suits like they have the past decade
And all this stuff is gonna be added on the 10th?
Pokemon has gotten too mascotty in general
gonna take couple of patch for new mons
Lucario ruined pokemon 
u mean improved?
I've seen some hope for Swoobat around. How bad do you think Simple being added without Bibarel statline handicap would be?
broke
Simple Quiver Dance would go crazy
Free Geomancy without needing Red Herb, complete bedlam
making more fusions for the espurr/meowstic familyyyy
:,v isnt she kinda short?
a lil yeah lul
oh do i have a challenge run for you
Tell me more 
They want to make you go bald don't listen to them
You can still get psychic terrain
Doesnt feel the same 
you need a turn to set it instead of a switch in option
13 new ? sure
6 of them will be the monkies
atleast slurpuff and golisopod are prob getting in seeing the event winners poll
golisopod line is def getting in
2nd place in both polls

Blue is very faded
Yeah Blue's still here
Well mine is
Just barely
the vote?
But you are blue becose you are a sprite applicationist
If there is a vote
I just wish I knew where Liligant placed
Exactly
That's why I said well mine is
Oh ok
Also green is still alive for me for some reason
Green's not alive for me
Oh that's because my colors are being wacky
It is still alive, huh
The fusion day vote, she might get in to get to 500 pokes
Oh, I see what u mean
On the one hand, hooray, on the other hand, I don't like Salazzle just by its appearance :(
I love Salandit tho
I hope they throw in Tsareena as a part of “Team Girlboss” along with levanny and stuff
I'd be chill with that
At the very least Salazzle brings Corrosion and I like corrosion
Especially with the addition of Lurantis
And I love Salandit like I said
True
So it ain't bad for me
Praying we get type:null into the game
cosmogheads wya
I hope we just add more custom pokes with custom types
But... salazzle... it drives me to consume Fresh Water in front of the gym leader
Well saltwater will kill you
It drives me to drink! (Fresh Water)
i think salazzle is ok at best but salandit is a qtpie
Salandit is Funni
is it ugly on purpose
i dont want it on my screen
No, you just hate beauty smh
This is what glamor looks like
sometimes i wonder if people who post gifs of pokemon know that gifs are annoying and it makes people dislike the pokemon more
What?
gifs are annoying
What about emojis
First time hear something like that
Now I want to see a lickylicky grenininja fusion
discord is a static screen with the only thing moving being the chat and then you send a moving image taking up 1/4 of the screen its aggrivating
Certainly not my view of it
Especially not that it makes the pokemon seem worse
Just that it makes the person posting the gifs make reading the chat a hassle
And that they are the annoying ones

Does this go through all 151 Kanto pokes? That's fun
yeah thats awful too
im gonna go watch minecraft
I think so
It does
What do you mean? There are no green usernames in that photo.
You must be losing it or something
First my blue faded and now I'm getting gaslit
Now I pray for liligant spheal Malamar and gourgeist but hey at least things get added till number 500
No, you aren’t. You’re being hysterical.

just discovered green, red and blue represent starters
we all thought it had something to do with 474&475 
my green is gone
bugcord
I've closed and reopened the app like 5 times now
And green is still here
Might as well join it
I can’t watch pory stream rediffusion rn but is character customization and the new starters the only things ?
I'm still finishing my first Nuzlocke, going to the end of the Post-game where you ||defeat Gold at Mt. Silver 3 years in the future||
lmbo
i was watching an old one earlier on youtube (about a year old) by dougdoug and everytime they took damage every mob within a certain radius multiplies so if theres 2 skeletons they'd become 4.
anyways I wonder if we'll get a new mon revealed every other week
lmao nice
Hey does anyone have a link to the recording of porys stream earlier?
Also obligatory pokemon gif
i do not think there was a recoridng saved earlier as it was streamed from inside of discord.
but i could be wrong and Pory could have archived it
honestly hoping for this guy.
It was from someone else I think! They recorded and put a link in chat, I'll go digging 
good luck soldier. hope you find it. 🫡
I didn't know people liked the tanky annoying orange monkey 
How many slots left? 15?
Yeh.
You mean Darmanitan Nokotan
I wanna be the very best
15 more Pokémon :00
I ain't catching em all
hell no
I didn't even do the new events of cresselia, meloetta,etc..
Wouldn't call him tanky, he's the one with sheer force and 140 atk flare blitz (destroys everything including itself
)
?
that monke destroyed me in pokerogue (even tho I won but yeah)
oh i saw
My hopes for the last 15 slots :]
I think spheal is next
Its a block of coal
flannery's ace is a block of coal 🔥
Replace the primates with the astrology space rocks and I’d call that a 10/10 wish list
which astrology rocks
Minior is there tho, top of priority too
solrock lunatone win !
Oh
tbh theyre below the primates because theyre both the same to me 
So we have 15 Pokémon left to know about
same
I would've preferred minior over carbink ngl
The primates are not the same to you?
there
gen 8
exactly why I said imagine 
Couldn't find the link to your reording of the stream so had to go digging 
The oranguru meme uses the wrong I-T-S 
Hope you don't mind if I steal this
Can we make a bingo
I'll put your watermark on it
Its not even mine 
Oof
Hell yeah a clearer image 
How can I make my bingo
Yoo, we're going to get more mons till we get 500 entries?
Man, i hope Golisopod, Slurpuff, Ribombee and Mienshao gets a chance... Hopefully.
this is like a very old template i forgot where the original is
Lol ok
ive made like dozens
I hope more Gen 6 and 7 pokemon get in
this list with every pokemon that has gotten in blanked out
Why do I get the feeling relicanth made it in already but there just not telling us yet outside of giving vague hints?
where is this template
👏GIVE 👏 US👏 GOLISIPOD 👏
In last years vote, I'm remaking it as we speak.
GIVE US THE BUG!!!!
how isn't Drillbur in already?
Drillbur would actually be cool to work with, I think it's just not at the top of people's lists so gets missed a bit
idk
I wanna see skitty and delcatty get in, they are so cute 🥺
Here y'all go!
I’m 99% sure relicanth made it in
imagine if drillbur also gets [thousand arrows vs aerodactyl = 502%-613% guaranteed OHKO]
What website is this BTW?
It's a png!
Oof
I used Paintdotnet as an image editor
Ok
Guys can we get Zygarde so that anaconja wont complain how other ground types doesnt get [Thousand arrows] [Thousand waves] [Land's wrath] and [Core enforcer] ?
thatd be zased
they readded them cause of the new starters but completely nuked yellow, us yellow class are sad lol. oh, nvm looks like everything is gone now, dang.

i cant even have green for a full 24hrs smh.
It's only green that I can see. x.x
Thousand Arrows Unaware Quagsire!
Zygarde/Unown fusion is just Pokémon Legends ZA 
looks like they lowered the color role below my zigzag role. rip i cant even be green
Oop, it's gone now.
My green is also gone 😔
sounds like worse quagsteelix
The starters aren’t part of the final 15
oh i was just counting off dex number
thats just worse adapt
474 and 475 don’t fit in your chart that way
just throw gogoat in there then
Look I'm a casual player, I dont think anything I said is competitive viable. Even then I play doubles, so I dont think anything I said is singles oriented either.
xern/yvel would be mega banned in doubles anyway
my list… hmm
1 Swirlix
2 Slurpuff
3 Mienfoo
4 Mienshao
5 Shellos
6 Gastrodon
7 Cutiefly
8 Ribombee
9 Wimpod
10 Golisopod (dislike this one but its undeniably liked so i wont be a hater)
11 Minior (i dont care for this one but same deal)
12 inkay
13 malamar (i guess)
14 NUMEL
15 CAMERUPT
id put more fairies but im truing to be slightly realistic 
no unfortunately, but it could happen
I think itd make nice fusions
But im also very biased towards the gen 5 bugs
And gen 5 in general. Munna 
Im gonna make a list now with the template wahoo
no gen 3

alr here's the slots with all confirmed mons accounted for
I FORGOT CAMERUPT MY BABY
kill dragalge immediately i need numie
Camerupt is swag
I completely forgot that Komoo is new
gen 3 is so swagggg
numie my beloved <3 people want camerupt because its cool i want camerupt because its stupid and i love that for it
my silly son
huh. there is a gap in the pokedex there. interesting
HOLY SHIT UR RIGHT
We have Sharpedo
But no Camerupt?!
Team Aqua cannot get away with this
I know 
Poor Numels
I wish Camerupt to win aswell
torkoal as diving encounter ?
what about this guy
yeah i was about to comment on the fact that the wiki also shows the 2 slots missing this means the vote pokemon has to be a 2 stage right
Uh huh
exciting

It would be nice if it was Golisopod
(Hear me out the mons on both sides are from gen 7, Golisopod is also from gen 7. It all makes sense./hj)
Based
tbh i prefer the other bug/water from that gen but i wouldnt be mad at any new bugs
Ye
araquanid ?
i really like the idea of cutiefly being added because the cutiefly body fusions are going to look very silly
yeah
Also based. We need to add to the swarm!
FROG IF YOU DO THIS MY LIFE IS YOURS
there
Round Boi is in
Fossil
god on one hand i want wurmple in bc i love wurmple on the other hand thats a lot of slots
If I get these pokemon I will have no more desire for more 🥲
I am down with most of these but not crazy about the fossils personally because we have sooo many rock types
otherwise I'm right there with ya lol
It was worse back when I had the Tyrunt and Aurous lines 
i don't like at all spheal, but i really love its final stage
lmao yeah I do like those but I can't say i was stoked for em
unheard of take
also, imo Chesnaught is the best looking starter out of the 3
The crab coming in with the spicy takes
Relicanth doesn't even have to be a fossil, it could totally be catchable.
also are color roles going away? :( they were fun
in a one specific tile of water ?
I just noticed people's going away lol
Johto static encounter 
I could do without relicanth but I'm with the gen 3 propaganda
so it balances out
I also do think the concept of the mon is cool even if it's just kinda there
Relicanth is the fossil I want the least, Archeops and Carrocasta are what I'd really want as fossils.
imo gen 3 pokemon are nice, but not in a "i need this asap" except for maybe two or three
i'm more interested in gen 4/5 pokémons
I think there's some cool things that could be done with archeops
I think most of my 3's were gen 3 or 4?
most of mine must have been gen 3 and 4 as well
Carracosta is only of interest to me because I had a pet turtle at the same time Black and White was airing on TV.
Relicanth is a FIN
A Fossil In Name. As he doesn’t come from a fossil, he’s just old enough to be called one
theoretically it could be both.
Fossil Maniac says "This is a rare extinct species!" only for you to later be able to catch one.
I'm down with more gen 4 mons but we're also not that far from having all hoenn mons
so I'm kinda like 👀 about gen 3 mons rn
Because it’s inspiration was considered an extinct species before it was discovered to be alive
They should add diving for relicanth
so true
Wouldnt feel right otherwise
Hence the name “Fossil Fish”
and only relicanth
the game will then become worse because more water was added
ofc
Relicanth should be in the deepest depths of that underwater maze. Remove the Gyarados
Just add Hoenn at that point lmao
It would make sense being near Kyogre at least
I havent played the late game in pif actually
that's actually a really good idea
honestly it'd never happen but I'd love to play IF in hoenn lol
Didnt know we had a underwater maze 
IF2: Hoenn Aloenn
Hoenn was my first region so sure!
I want a sinnoh based pif 
kanto was my first and maybe that's why I'm so bored of it idk
Hoenn and Sinnoh. May as well since those are the last two that are in the same section of the world
Personally ones that I really want are golisopod line and victiny(really unlikely but still). All others would be fun to but those are my personal
Unova would be interesting with the idea of fusion vs Pokémon freedom
And 6/7?
Are these all the mons we dont have?
But then we have to deal with Ghetsis…
And I don’t wanna deal with him anymore after 2 games of him and Rainbow Rocket
Consider: Ghetsis with the Kyrum tripple fusion
Yes
ghetsis dum
i wonder what gen i like
id rather have colress 
id be happy with a lot of pokemon but i just wanna do more gen 5 pokemon
an N run would be fun when we get more Gen 5 pokemon
Based lasanga crab enjoyer
you can usually tell what someone's first pkmn game was here by the mons they want lol
Rival Ghetsis
Crustle is like a top 3 bug
My first pokemon game was Pokemon Emerald when I was 3 >:)
i just happened to fall for gen 5. i havent even beat the game, i mostly play fangames, but i think the aesthetics of gen 5 just clicked with my brain
Ironically enough I want more gen 6 mons in the game despite not really liking x/y
I really love gen 5 though
I was born 2 months after Red/Blue
I love a lot of gen 6 mons tbh
it was less about me being too young for the games and more we didnt have any handheld consoles
even though yeah not crazy about x/y
XY wasn't bad cuz of the pokemon, XY was bad because of literally everything else.
guess mine
Yeah I call shenanigans on this take.
My first was Sapphire and I want more gen 5/6 mons in before Gen 3
I dont think any gen is bad based on their pokemon tbf
Gen 5 
Gen 5 has bangers
ok i like charts and statistics im going to do a little funny rq
Although they had a few fillers
Gen 5 is awesome for designs
I mean most gen 3 mons are in.
Torkoal/Camerupt pls.
gen 5 not selling as well as other gens would naturally mean it's less people's first pokemon gen
Not like I’m dying for the rest.
Heck I barely use the ones we have in already
so less demand on the whole for gen 5 mons which is why we dont have that many
Looking back its weird gen 5 sold so badly
Its argueably the best story in any pokemon game except for maybe gen 9
Gen 5 had an awsome story!
And some of the worst evolution progression the Franchise has ever seen.
I think gen 7 story clears easily but that may just be me
Not really.
People hated not having all the old mons until postgame. Coupled with a change in marketing and a LOT of drip feeding info early instead of revealing stuff
Gen 7 was a drag for me story wise.
Gen 7 also had a not good story, but half decent pokemon.
I feel that way about being stopped for battles and gym leader sidequests every 2 seconds in b/w tbh
5, 7 and 9 are my favorites story-wise
Gen 7 has good mons, and barely-there traversal gameplay. Later half is all cutscenes and on-rails stuff with battles between.
Tldr: it sucks and I only like the Mona from it
Gen 7 has the best pokedex
gen 6?
heartgold
also my b I literally did not see lol
I think other gens has higher peaks but almost every mon in alola is good
good game
I’ll make my chart of hopes and guesses in the morning
i knew there still has to be one luvdisc fan. i think it might make cute fusions but i cant imagine a ton of ideas immediately with it tbh
Gen 5 had terrible progression, good story, and medeocre pokemon.
Gen 6 had decent progression, terrible story, and great pokemon.
Gen 7 had terrible progression, terrible story, and decent pokemon.
funnily enough right as hg/ss were coming out was when I started to burn out on pokemon which was ironic because I eventually played soulsilver and i do really love that game, but I'm glad I didn't play it when it came out cus I don't think I would've enjoyed it as much
Heartgold has the worst replay value but damn it was good when playing through it the first time as a kid
gen 5 pokémons are great imo
The gen 2 remakes are like a gold standard of remake across the medium as a whole. Few remade games are as well executed
(not all, but that's same in every generation)
I just think the idea of flattening other mons is neat
wild anyone can say gen 7 has a bad story and I think the story of gen 5 gets way too much credit when it's really the characters that people care about
and the premise or whatever
garbodor funny af
I think the pacing of sun/moon sucks ass tho
as a game
us/um is paced better but has a worse story
the charactors are what makes a story good, and ruin it if they're not.
mh, garbodor is only the reflect of people trashing their world
characters are one part of what makes a story good
you can enjoy a character outside of their story context
gen5 gives you the good shit like hydreigon/victini/reuniclus/ferrothorn/jellicent/bisharp/volcarona
Get what you’re saying but initial reaction was “oh no! A story that is only good because the CHARACTERS are good!?!? What a shock!”
It's just muk if it was even uglier
garbodor / muk / weezing each represent a different form of pollution
Like I said, I hate Gen 7 because of the gameplay. Story is alright
Garbodor : earth
Muk : water
Weezing : air
I mean I don't even think the characters are that great but I think pokemon fans standards for writing are in the gutter so
The pollution states of matter
Gen 3: 69/135 pokemon added. 51.1%
Gen 4: 64/107 pokemon added. 59.8%
Gen 5: 44/156 pokemon added. only 28.2% 
Gen 6: 30/72 pokemon added. 41.7%
Gen 7: 18/86 pokemon added. our lowest, 20.9%
when you look at what you have to compare to anyways
erm actually garbodor isnt ground and muk isnt water and weezing isnt flying
Snow cone!
-# they all lived in peace until the fire pollution nation attacked
most of the mystery dungeon games put all of the mainline pkmn stories to shame and have good characters on top of that
i'm not talking about their type but the pollution they represent
gen 5 has so many pokemon its easy to pick and choose what you do and dont like. not liking garbodor is apparently a hot take in my friend group though, lol
Real
Later ones are weird. Personification of bad vibes, dark matter, what the heck k are these final bosses?
i know i was doing a bit
super mystery dungeon has the second best story of all of em
i think gen 5 should have more pokemon in IF though i personally feel the missing pokemon in gen 5 hard
I don't think the bosses being JRPGish is that bad since it'd get stale if the final boss was just another legendary pokemon every time
predictable
and you can see some dialogues that would never makes it to the mainline game
Just the final enemies are a bit… random imo.
Think tv tropes calls it “Giant Space Flea Out Of Nowhere”
like for exemple in the quest of the "team cute" in explorers of sky
God I hope victini gets added in for 500k
Number wise it looks fair to me. Cant help that gen 5 has a huge dex
ohh thats fair.
Explorers at least had “villain mon tortured a primal force into being the main baddie”
do people actually still say this? I feel like this is a take from like ten years ago 😭
i still cant believe that alomomola isnt an evo of luvdisc that blew my mind when i learned more about pokemon
vanilluxe is scary, imagine you buy an icecream, you start to eat it and it suddenly scream, nah, call an exorcist
Some Pokémon can be assholes, but the recent games make it seem like evil mons are just because they’re controlled by something that makes them rampage
You’d have to bite into solid ice first
Early route mons in gen 5 are kinda poo
Vanilite is the cone, not the swirl
yeah but gen 3 is also pretty high in the numbers and it still has 20 more. its definitely unbalanced in 5 and 7 compared to 3 and 4 [6 is sort of irrelevant here bc it has so little pokemon]
but where is them saying they hate gen 5 for that lmao
Patrat, Purrloin, Monkeys, Pidove 
Out of work, I go home. Bye all!
I do miss gen 5 mons quite a bit
they were claiming that the gen 5 pokemon are mediocre and they sent garbodor and vanillite gif in response
assume the line says “gen 5 mons are bad” then thats what i meant
Gen 5 has some great pokemon, but it also has Sygilith, Swanna, Beheeyem, and Zebstrika.
yeah, sure, garbodor isn't the best looking pokémon, but it can make really nice sprites 
i love sigilyph but i may have bad taste for that lol
Garbodor is very funny aswell.
Yes you do. 
spriting a sigilyph would not be very enjoyable
I would throw hands for Zebstrika
this is something I have a bit of a gripe with too but honestly even in the previous pmd games this was always a factor, with pokemon who wander into the mystery dungeons basically turning wild and crazy
which is the story context explanation for them being in the dungeons ofc
I think it just kinda has a boring evolution
here're my personal picks
it's very gen 1 in a "this pokemon but larger" kind of way
also fun fact due to the way they framed the little hidden area emolga was in in pokepark 2 i thought emolga was a mythical 
also i realise there's been like no sinnoh reps in these recent votes/raffles lol
the problem i have with some gen 5 mons is that they suck ass (zebstrika, unfezant, maractus, etc)
Physically oriented Electric pokemon 
Honestly, If Zebstrika was faster and hit in SpA I'd like it.
thats the issue with a huge gen
I personally think the gen 5 mons are mediocre too but I also think gen 5 fans are so defensive about it atp that I don't even bother to bring it up often lol
they've been through enough
i wouldnt say they all suck ass and i wouldnt say theyre all good. theres definitely some less enjoyable pokemon from gen 5, but i think anyone can find a good amount of enjoyable pokemon from gen 5. thats just my opinion though
but also my opinions are based solely on aesthetics for the most part because im just a spriter lol
Tbh there’s some that I just like the looks of. Zebs is one of those
I have mons from gen 5 that I like
I think it's just a matter of they wanted to refresh the series and went as far as to get the 151
I know a thing or two about bad pokemon; My favorite pokemon are all pikaclones 
I'm just kinda meh at best to all the gen 5 pokemon.
and in some ways the dex feels a lil forgettable to me because of that
emolga is just pure copium because ilike it i wouldnt be upset if it didnt get in because tbh i cant really think of good fusions for it either
but i think a lot of the gen 5 bugs slap
I also wasn't a fan of the pokemon artstyle change that happened in gen 5 but I've had time to adjust and the style has also evolved since
I figured that's how people felt when gen 3 came out
I loved the gen 5 art style personally; had a charm gen 6+ is missing.
I like gen 5 but I will admit that it was my first Pokémon game
yeah idk everything was all soft and curvy or it was all very hard and stiff lines
not very much inbetween
soo
gen 5 kinda made bug type viable imo. i love crustle i love galvantula i love volcarona i love scolipede
gen 5 did a lot for bug types ye
Proposal: Electric type Hyper Beam for Pachirisu
what did i miss from the stream, i know about the starters and pokemon hats
though bug type buffs in gen 7 were also crazy
ik we're just in gen 7 and under only so this is totally just me being dumb but i would love to make duraludon/archaludon fusions someday
anything else was revealed?
i love building
me when i open pokemon showdown and go to the bh metagame
I thinkkkkk someone is working on gen8+ code rn
Let's pray for them
kalos flopped on bugs but the cutiefly dewpider and wimpod lines are great [i like grubbin line but joltik better
]. i also love the gen 8 bugs
bugs plural is pushing it kalos added scatterbug line and thats it
Vivillion was great, just not competatively viable.
I agree and yet they gave us a bug type gym for gen 6 
vivillion was a gimmick and just mono bug has to be really good to be worth using
I am a Vivillion fan just for the wing designs
i really like spewpa's design
I also think it's cute
tbf it was a decent pick in gen 8 ndag
also ik im so unoriginal for saying this but im still mad the flygon line isnt bug its based on antlions
i want bug/dragon type so bad
I wonder if that might actually buff flygon cause I mean ground/dragon is a fantastic offensive typing but uhh
4x weak to ice is ouch
LAZ might add that since Megas were hinted
was about to say this
bug dragon would nerf it into the ground
I do think it'd be a net loss for flygon
bug ground is kinda cooking though
MEGAAAAS
bug ground is a cool typing ye
we need actual bug ground pokemon yeah
wish we'd see it more
theres nincada and sandy coat wormadam
we have 1 1/3 bug/ground type pokemon lol
there arent any normal/bug types but tbh idk how youd do a normal/bug. bugs are already normal
Mega Pachirisu 
some sort of office worker themed bug lol. but frankly its not like a normal/bug type would be really great typewise
what is the most normal bug
i just would like a bug dragon in a game sometime
this offends my sensibilities for some reason
I don't dislike it but there's just something about his face lol
that doesn't look right to me
i feel like mega evos would be fun but also just give the self fusions better stats and thats basically the megas lol [this is mostly a joke since ik itd be a completely different mechanic]
It's a normal pachirisus eyes and mouth but nothing else
a dragonfly would have also been like the perfect choice
and most obvious
but we have yanma and yanmega lol
mega evolution seems interesting and i feel like we'd get a lot of cool sprites because of it but idk i feel iffy about it
i cant really elaborate on why i feel like the sprites wouldnt work but idk
well
sometimes megas complicate the design in a way that makes that tough
still, people find ways to incorporate aspects of megas in fusions
like steelix
I see a lot of mega steelix being borrowed for its fusions
i think its more that i wonder about how to properly incorporate that into fusions with something that doesnt have a mega form
And Ampharos too
Claydol.......
Lol
Someone ping me if Claydol gets in, I gotta sleep and might be busy all weekend
Okie dokie
will do 🫡
Claydol is creepy in a good way
honestly there are very few pokemon id be upset about them being added to the game so no matter what ill be pretty happy, itd just be nice if i get at least one gen 5 pokemon i like
claydol is fun
Idk
Tbh making megas seperate for fusions mostly would hurt in the cases were the megas are more subtle design changes. Works for some but not for all. Like gards mega is just puffing up the dress and an extra chestspike- which is… not a lot lol. if you had to keep them different and recognizably different for fusions thatd really hurt the creative options for designs
True
not too many pokemon upset me, I more think about what could have been in these scenarios lol
yeah like mega altaria doesnt change much at all
good point
i believe we will get minior/blacephon and amoogus
Maybe
I’m mainly focused on the art aspect of the designs personally
What we can do with them
god amoonguss would be so funny
Yes
I have my blacephalon sprite ready if it does get added lol
oh yeah im focused on like concepts since i dont actually play the game though i might sometime, i just enjoy spriting
Not sure if Blacephalon is gonna go in, unless all UBs gets in
im like a novice spriter but its fun to make sprites
I hope we get the Goat as one of the 15 missing mons
imagine after the 500 mark they just add all ubs... this chat is going to be chaos
Yea I just want themm but Minior more likely
that's the thing, I feel like we mostly get pokemon in for just aesthetics but I'd like a balance of that and also gameplay functionality
Honestly I love seeing what people do with the mons
because we still have some glaring typing based holes in IF
wait how many starters are missing still
and some abilities would be nice to have
uhh gen 5 and 7
snivy line fusions would be fun waow
i just hope they add minior i know theyre not gonna add skitty
i think minior would be really cool
theres no hope skittyheads......

Victini,,,, v-create,,,,,
My wish list
Gogoat 2
Golisopod 2
Furfrou 1
Torkoal or Relicanth 1
Camerupt 2
Gen 5 fossils 4
Eelektross 3
Making 15 mons
best hope for skittyheads is frogman going fuck it and adding the rest of hoenn on a whim tbh
minior bodies are fun to come up with and easy to sprite cause theyre just circle
would be cool if all starters are droppin together but doesnt seem that way with the way things were worded in the stream lol
i secretly think the lake trio would be fun but thats most likely based on my main experience with pokemon being one of those pokedex books from the bookfair and the fact that i only played pokepark so my opinions are purely based on aesthetic and i really like tiny fairy pokemon
so maybe mons that were higher in the poll?
i mean its not THAT hopeless, it was at least IN the vote
i like victini also
I'd love to get torkoal but not before we get pelipper, we need one drizzle mon that's decent and isn't a legendary
politoed doesn't make that good of fusions statistically
Will everything be in at some point?
honestly i keep forgetting zigzagoon isnt in IF. it feels like such a staple pokemon in my brain and then its like oh
i doubt it will before gamefreak makes a new generation
I think lake trio is fine but some people be hatin on them lol
I mean up to gen 7
we hope so
lake trio is cute and i like their shinies
i saw someone say that the limitations were removed so theoretically everything could be added at some point, its just the process of adding new pokemon is time consuming so itll just take a while
very likely
lake trio would be nice
it would also add a new triple fusion
Maybe I can get Espurr within 10 years then…
wait shaymin isnt in the game??? outrageous
trying to imagine what that would even look like lol
my brain says very cute and elegant
I see a lot of people say they're too mew adjacent and all 3 are too close together sprite wise but eh I think they're cute
I am an espurr and skitty head and I want them both and yes i am biased because i like cats
plus one is eepy
those are my main ones I just want in for design lol
shaymin would make good fusions but i also think croagunk/toxicroak would make good fusions and i think its decent from my understanding of pokemon things
i also. like frogs
im like debating gen 4 pokemon i want added in my brain rn lol
what if it just makes jirachi
minior would make great fusions and has interesting ability too
real
it does fine really, polibi is a staple setter
You dont say aye.
minior good
just think more options would be good especially if you add torkoal
miniorheads wya 🔥🔥🔥
then you have two sun setters and only one rain setter
id like torkoal also
i didnt add it to my chart because i saw spinda wasnt in the game and im a spindahead
torkoal is one of my favorite mons lol
idk anything about game stats with spinda but i think its really aesthetically pleasing to my brain
I used it in a nuzlocke run once and he put in so much work for me
ever since I've loved torkoal
torkoal is pretty interesting thinking about putting as the head on a fast mon it has big special attack and that one move that does big damage with full health
torkoal electrode...
torkoal is very memorable for a pokepark fan such as myself lol. theres a huge group of them in the lava zone that are between the drill and the forge and theyll randomly attack you
Still hoping on zangoose/seviper, just 2 cool guys suprised aren't already in


