pif-hoenn-discussion

[proud lion]

Poor Quilladin getting no love

[grave jolt]

Velo fusions look maybe fast

[clear lichen]

It's not even fully fixable with fusions

Because fusions will still partially inherit those poor speed stats

[prisma widget]

Grr why ping me here

[umbral river]

Ah. True

[clear lichen]

Hey, at least Weavile exists

[umbral river]

Ah. True 2x

[clear lichen]

Mamoswine too but Mamoswine's a bit of an odd case

Mamoswine is somewhat slower and bulkier but still is pretty decent

That said, it's 80 speed

[full bison]

What holds Rock back more than anything is it's available moves. None of them are accurate enough aside from signature moves, the two turn Meteor beam, or signature moves

[clear lichen]

Which isn't terrible

[clear lichen]

Also holds Physical Ice back

But yeah both these types are poor defensively, strong offensively, and may or may not have a lack of moves

[full bison]

Ice at least has Ice Spinner. Rock has no equivalent

[clear lichen]

Not in Gen 7

And also, most Ice types would prefer Triple Axel

It's basically a slightly stronger Blizzard that will give you payoff even if you miss

[grave jolt]

Imagine a 100 speed 100 SpA Ice type

[clear lichen]

The 40 BP improvement over Ice Spinner would definitely give it usage

[glass patio]

hot dog

[clear lichen]

Too slow, too weak

In a Gen 9 setting

[grave jolt]

😔

Being powercrept fr

[clear lichen]

Even in Gen 7 it wouldn't be too great I'd imagine

Those are pretty similar stats to Jynx, aren't they?

[full bison]

There's like two Ice lines that aren't either worthless or broken

[clear lichen]

Nah, we have uhh

Base Kyurem (debatable)

That's 3

Because Mamoswine and Weavile from earlier

[grave jolt]

5 more speed, 15 less SpA

[somber terrace]

I'm hoping I get an even number of Pokémon to be fused with one another...

[bitter comet]

Probably his face is scaring everyone away

[open merlin]

please sewaddle line, i need the sewaddle line!!

[bitter comet]

He looks like he’d murder you in the middle of the night

[clear lichen]

Yeah no I think the powercreep's a bit too late even by extremely old gen standards

Jynx fell off a while ago

[grave jolt]

The pokemon I was thinking of was in fact jynx oops lmao

[clear lichen]

Jynx is still better than Electivire though

Electivire L

[crimson robin]

Quilladin is probably the most ugly Pokemon they've ever made. Just horrid. A boring midstage with no unique features or redeeming qualities

[clear lichen]

Mid speed Ice VS Physical Electric

[crimson robin]

Electivire pretty good in big boss tho

[somber terrace]

Has the body shape of Gengar...

[clear lichen]

Mainly talking about non fusion Pokemon

[full bison]

Why is Gamefreak so insistent on phys Electric being garbage anyway

[clear lichen]

Good question

[crimson robin]

Just chespin but fat

[full bison]

I don't get it, it's clearly a deliberate choice

[grave jolt]

Iron Bundle is an ice type that is faster, bulkier, and hits harder than jynx.

[clear lichen]

Jesus, bulkier?

With that SpD stat?

[sour sigil]

Oh my god I can’t wait for the Kalos fusions to arrive

[clear lichen]

Oh right, Jynx has like 35 defence

[grave jolt]

Revenge for Clefairy

[clear lichen]

Physical Fairy and Electric are probably the worst when it comes to moves

Hmm yes, high risk mid reward moves

I love those

Thanks

[full bison]

Play Rough is at least merely inaccurate

[clear lichen]

Its power is too low for 90 accuracy

[full bison]

It's not like Electric where the best phys move is a clone of JumpKick

[grave jolt]

I get physical fairy being bad, fairy is already busted, but electric didn't deserve what it got.

[clear lichen]

Especially since whenever I use Play Rough, it feels like 90% miss rate

Wild Charge is better than Supercell Slam for sure

10 BP for a chance to miss and massive recoil on Protect/Miss/Ground is dumb

[sick edge]

There should be more moves for both types me thinks

[clear lichen]

That said, that just means your best move is a clone of Take Down

My brain is deficient

Well, ig Take Down is inaccurate

So at least it isn't that bad

[grave jolt]

give us electric type giga impact 😔 /j

[umbral river]

I figured it out guys. They're adding the Unova monkeys and the Burmy line

And each of the different burmy types are a different pokedex number

[somber terrace]

@grave jolt Who needs bulk when you've got the hotness?

[clear lichen]

If you want to be viable, everyone

[grave jolt]

Fire/Psychic

[clear lichen]

Fighting's best widespread move in the past being Submission is

Why

They fixed that thankfully

Because like, seriously?

[grave jolt]

"Gonna use sub"
"Fighting type sub or the effect sub?"
"What do you think?"

I'm still over the moon over the new starters lmao

[umbral river]

I'm still not over the fact we're getting 30 total Pokemon

[full bison]

Didn't Karate Chop exist in Gen one? As a Normal move for some reason? I seem to remember that

[hot hamlet]

So much for “one or two lines max”

[umbral river]

Remember the version 6.0 update where we were only getting like 20 pokemon max

Which turned into like, 50

[hot hamlet]

I mean I was there for the update but I didn’t know it was coming

I came in a month before the update

[bold atlas]

it's mad

and I'm not complaining

[umbral river]

Now we've gone from "1 to 2 lines" to 30 Pokemon

[finite reef]

Now it's optimal to have pokemon with few evolutions for more variety

[full bison]

I just checked and Karate Chop was indeed normal in gen 1. Why.

[bold atlas]

so Tropius then

[hot hamlet]

So of the newly revealedmons, which is what people are the most excited for?

[vestal wharf]

I screamed as loud as I could as soon as I saw greninja

[umbral river]

Definitely Delphox for me. My favorite Fire-Type starter

[stuck bane]

The 13 single stages from unova plus Lilligant

[bold atlas]

Cheering for Greninja like a smash fan who didn't get mad about it not being Mewtwo

[clear lichen]

Ice has like 11 Pokemon that aren't shit, 1 has Box Art stats, 4 are broken, 4 aren't OU proper and 1 is Kyurem

[outer matrix]

there's also avalugg

[ashen cloud]

i hope we get ultra beast

[clear lichen]

Actually if you include Kyurem-B and W, that's like 2 extra broken guys

[tender plank]

I'm most excited for Lurantis ngl

[full bison]

Avalugg is turbo garbage

[umbral river]

how many of them are in IF

Of those 11

[clear lichen]

Uhhh

Like 3

I think?

[outer matrix]

~~exactly, especially it's hisuian form ~~

[clear lichen]

4?

Idk

[hot hamlet]

Back when it was revealed I wanted them to do a trailer that was basically Lakitu interviewing the fighters and Greninja was Mewtwo’s protege

[umbral river]

Kyurem and,

Froslass?

[clear lichen]

Kyurem, Weavile, Mamo, Cloyster at the top of my head

[umbral river]

Ah okay

Oh right you've mentioned Weav and Mamo

[clear lichen]

Almost all the remaining ones are from Gens 8 or later

[full bison]

Froslass is okay,but in IF it's only good to pass on it's speed as a body, which makes it pass on Ghost

[umbral river]

Dang

[clear lichen]

Except for Alolan Ninetales

Hey, Cloyster is broken in Gen 5!

There's that at least

Shell Smash? Spikes? Rapid Spin?

... Yeah, probably Shell Smash

[analog stag]

Spheal gang where are you at?

[clear lichen]

That's probably the best way to summarise what Cloyster does

[full bison]

Cloyster/Greninja Skill Link Water Shuriken could be fun/completely busted

[clear lichen]

Doesn't Water Shuriken have 15 BP

[bitter comet]

Who else is not playing the game until the new update?

[grave jolt]

Froakie isn't cooperating with my recoloring process, it just looks like a 1920s cartoon character...

[umbral river]

Not me, because the update might take like 2 weeks or smth

[full bison]

Yeah, but it's multi hit and priority

[clear lichen]

You're Shell Smashing

[umbral river]

Probably 3

[clear lichen]

You shouldn't really be outsped

[umbral river]

And I was gonna play it tmrw

[clear lichen]

And in that case, Hydro Pump is unbelievably stronger

[crimson robin]

Is anyone else confused why they haven't revealed #474 & 475?
Skipping those entries was like a hint - we knew they were going to add two more pokemon.
But then they came out and said they were adding thirteen more. What's the point of these two hidden slots? They never got revealed, and now we know we're getting more than the voted monss, so now #474 & 475 are just part of the 15 new ones we know will be revealed at some point.

[clear lichen]

Iirc

[robust niche]

pokemon 496-500 will be cosmog, cosmoem, solgaleo and lunala

im betting

[clear lichen]

Yeah no 75 BP max on Water Shuriken

[full bison]

Did you forget how much Talonflame still took advantage of pre-nerf Gale Wings?

[umbral river]

Just wait and we'll see

[full bison]

Priority is ALWAYS good.

[clear lichen]

It is always good but a Cloyster at +2 speed is a lot faster than a Talonflame is all

And this Cloyster is fused with a Greninja

Hydro Pump has 110 BP

Also, is Protean banned right now?

[crimson robin]

My kingdom for loaded dice

[inland jewel]

the only proteon mon in the game is kecleon so no

[clear lichen]

If it isn't, Greninja isn't a problem anyways

[inland jewel]

but that might change if its Greninja

[clear lichen]

Yup, Greninja's gone

Usually, if 2 Pokemon have an ability, and only 1 is broken, they ban the Pokemon and not the ability

For regular tiering, idk if the Pokeathalon guys do it differently

[clear lichen]

Same happens with moves

[full bison]

Isn't Greninja considered manageable by Gen 7 standards?

[grave jolt]

By gen 7 standards? No.

[alpine rune]

managable?

[clear lichen]

You're not just having Protean on specifically Greninja

You're giving it to every Pokemon ever

Greninja was only Ubers in Gen 6

[grave jolt]

Proteon Mew

[green laurel]

Oh thank God he's ending

[stuck bane]

I just want to keep a somewhat decent pace of chipping away at unova, 6 slots of unova, the rest can be whatever you want that’s all I ask

[clear lichen]

If Protean was only on Greninja, things may not be fucked for IF

[grave jolt]

"Hey look at me! I can run stab on every move in the game!"

[clear lichen]

Greninja's stats aren't extremely great

[full bison]

Six slots of Unova? So the monkeys?

[stuck bane]

I’ll take ‘em, it’s something

[clear lichen]

But you're fusing Greninja with something else and I think that will push Greninja over the edge

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-monke-monkey-spin-ape-gif-25078721

[clear lichen]

As I said before, I believe it would be Greninja getting banned, with how tiering usually works

Since yknow, Kecleon

[stuck bane]

Oh wait I haven’t edited kalos starters in yet

[finite reef]

Oh no an actual decent Protean mon

[stuck bane]

Look at this shit

[clear lichen]

Greninja is so heavily carried by Protean and Battle Bond it's funny

[grave jolt]

Kekleon/Greninja is just the word BANNED

[clear lichen]

Nobody is banning Kecleon

Man I am dumb

[finite reef]

The Clamperl line is censored lmao

[clear lichen]

Anyways, I will note that Smogon did ban specifically abilities even if a Pokemon with them wasn't broken... but only in older generations

[grave jolt]

Just ban using proteon and battle bond on Greninja, and that salves our issue 😌 /j

[clear lichen]

Excadrill's situation comes to mind

[thorny ferry]

The first objectively correct tier list I've seen so far

[clear lichen]

Excadrill was originally directly banned, but sometime later they needed more rapid spinners and unbanned Excadrill while banning Sand Rush on Sand

Banning Sand Rush on Sand made Rain broken since Rain would run Sand Rush Excadrill

If you stop Rain, you lose

If you let Rain stay up, you lose

So eventually, they just banned Sand Rush

[grave jolt]

Rain Rush Excadrill

[full bison]

Man,Gen 5 had a horrible meta

[finite reef]

There's exactly enough pokemon left to add the Cosmog line and every Ultra Beast!

[full bison]

Almost as bad as gen 9's

[clear lichen]

They're still trying to fix it

[clear lichen]

Yup, I doubt it happens though

[finite reef]

I can hope

[clear lichen]

Gens 5 and 9 may be the most hated generations competitively

That, or Gen 2

[grave jolt]

Swift Swim Regional Excadrill that's a water type instead of ground.

[thorny ferry]

Guzzlord would be absolutely diabolical 🙏

[full bison]

If we do get the UBs, we should also get a Nihilego hat because funny

[clear lichen]

Best Pokemon in OU and Ubers at the same time to low tier Pokemon

Snorlax fell a long way

[finite reef]

A new regional excadrill that's ground/fairy would be terrifying

[clear lichen]

MIRAIDON CHECK LET'S GOOOOO

[full bison]

Snorlax with Slack Off would be UU, maybe UUBL, I guarantee it

[clear lichen]

I'd love an Ice type Slush Rush Excadrill, maybe have a Slush Rush Pokemon with actual speed and attack/SpA

[grave jolt]

Give Snorlax Slack Off!!

[clear lichen]

Though, we had one that had neither actual speed nor Attack and SpA

And it uhh

Got banned from UU

So maybe that's not the greatest idea

That said, it was a Bolt Beak user with Boltbeam so

[grave jolt]

Bug/Steel Excadrill

[small tiger]

are we back?

[hidden anvil]

Kinda don't like that they are adding so many new pokemon so fast. Sprites will never catch up at this rate.

[finite reef]

Overheat would melt it

[clear lichen]

Simply give it actual special bulk

[grave jolt]

Give it Flash Fire

[small tiger]

yeah... we are going to have to outsource further

[finite reef]

Give it Technician and Bullet Punch

[clear lichen]

Maybe add on Roost and Knock Off as well

[finite reef]

Bold of you to assume that would make a differencce

[clear lichen]

Oh, and don't forget to actually give it U-Turn

[vestal wharf]

LMAO

[clear lichen]

We can't keep forgetting to give U-Turn to Bug types

[finite reef]

Make U-Turn 60 base power

[clear lichen]

Hmm... would Close Combat fit on this Pokemon?

[grave jolt]

Of course, it's the first actually good bug type

[clear lichen]

Might want to wait a few generations

Maybe we give it some cool special form along the line

Maybe called "mega evolution" or something

Where it keeps Technician

[vestal wharf]

is ferrothorn in the game?

[finite reef]

Yes

[clear lichen]

OK yeah this joke has run its course

[clear lichen]

Yup

[vestal wharf]

k

just checking

havent played IF in a long time

[clear lichen]

The only problem I've found with it is the fact that I can't find a fusion that doesn't make it worse

This is a Ferrothorn moment

[full bison]

It has some good head fusions, but it's stats demand a body fusion

[clear lichen]

Defensive Pokemon need to be so perfectly made to be defensive that fusing one like Ferrothorn to something else can be an ordeal if you want to get a better Pokemon at the end of things

Though I've only tried so for Ferrothorn, maybe Toxapex is different or something

That said, what is Toxapex even missing apart from more HP

[grave jolt]

My ass just going "Ferrowthorn and Forretress were good at the same thing right? Yeah, I'll fuse them."

[clear lichen]

You don't get much better than Water/Poison, it's a pretty great defensive type

[full bison]

The big appeal I've seen with Toxapex is giving Merciless to a Pokemon with workable offenses

[clear lichen]

Oops! All off topic!

[grave jolt]

what do y'all think the best defensive fusions involving the new mons will be?

[inland geyser]

WE NARUTO BOIS

[clear lichen]

Probably some Grass/Steel with Chesnaught if I'm being honest

[obsidian terrace]

slurpuff my beloved, you had your opportunity taken from you by shitty diance. now is your chance

[robust niche]

ferrothorn chestanught

[clear lichen]

That, or Steel/Fairy with Carbink

[inland geyser]

I wana do Kyogre Chesnaught

that blue armor all segmented

so exciteddddd

[clear lichen]

I think Carbink would be a safer bet

Since Fairy is more universally good than Grass

[grave jolt]

Groudon/Chessnaught would be fun

[clear lichen]

Even if I'd say Grass/Steel is better defensively than Fairy/Steel

Yknow, in case you can't find a good Pokemon of that type to fuse with

[full bison]

if Greninja is likely to get banned, I'd like to see Accelgor added (and Escavalier by proxy I guess) so I could takeadvantage of Skill Link Water Shuriken

I know about the move expert,but I think that move will be erased from there like Anchor Shot was

[clear lichen]

I dont like move expert honestly

It disincentivises adding the Pokemon those moves actually belong to if the Pokemon taking over is already great

And that's not something you want to do

Just look at Tail Glow

They gave Tail Glow to motherfucking Reshiram

And Zekrom as well, who has like what 120 SpA?

2 Pokemon with extremely high stats

[grave jolt]

in SP you're never gonna encounter fire types, so it's up to whether Ground or Fighting weakness is worse. I say Ground, since you can get starters that aren't your original starting after gen 3.

[clear lichen]

Why would you ever vote for Manaphy

Or Illumise

If you just want Tail Glow

And if Reshiram has that?

That's my issue with move expert

Hopefully it doesn't matter too much

I'm sure Manaphy has casual fans

[grave jolt]

Zekrom and Reshiram are locked behind post game

[clear lichen]

That will pull it out of this hole

And once Manaphy is free, Illumise won't be completely doomed

Wait was it Volbeat or Illumise who gets Tail Glow?

Idk neither of them are like

Ever used

And if they are it sure as hell isn't for Tail Glow

I checked, it's Volbeat who ofc has the lower SpA

[twin phoenix]

Oh, I think the stream ended.

[grave jolt]

yep

[clear lichen]

Volbeat has 47

Illumise has 73

[grave jolt]

The team is still alive

[clear lichen]

Honestly I doubt even Tail Glow would save Volbeat looking at that stat spread

[molten loom]

I became a casual hater of it because of the Legends Arceus quest

[clear lichen]

Still, it'd be a reason to vote for it

... Is what I would say, if Reshiram didn't have Tail Glow

But yeah, I think I've made it clear why I dislike move expert

[clear lichen]

Lol

I forgot what that quest was like I don't remember struggling with it too much

[robust niche]

i dont want manaphy in bc of phione

[clear lichen]

Jesus fucking christ

OK yeah there's no way I didn't search that up

What in tarnation

[green laurel]

dang the video is too big for discord

[molten loom]

This part was such a pain

The evo

[clear lichen]

||I definitely caught the alpha Overqwil, I remember using it on my team||

||So that must've eased my pain a shitton||

[molten loom]

I did most of the requests before that point

Not this ones though

[clear lichen]

This fucker

[molten loom]

This one can go burn for all I care

[clear lichen]

This is easily the Pokemon that took me the 2nd longest to get

Excluding Spiritomb

[full bison]

Never bothered with that quest tbh, too much RNG

Don't even have it in my dex

[molten loom]

I got that before Cherrim

[clear lichen]

The longest was Munchlax but then I found out about the massive mass outbreaks

And ofc one of the first ones I found there was shiny lmao

Oops! All Off Topic!

This keeps happening somehow

[finite reef]

The last pokemon in my dex was Pichu (including the legendaries), I simply never saw one for the entire game

[clear lichen]

I think it may be because of me

[molten loom]

Unless Cherrim has a chance of being added

[clear lichen]

Keeping things off topic is something I'm good at

[molten loom]

Because we are going to 500

[finite reef]

Pokedex #500 is Emboar... coincidence?

[full bison]

Are Cherrim's forms different enough to warrant two slots? Cause that's my concern there

[clear lichen]

Damm, they added specifically Serperior and Emboar lines

And not Samurott

[grave jolt]

Frog! Add Litten and Torracat but not Incinneroar!

[clear lichen]

Samurott fans can't stop losing

First it gets Shell Armour instead of Intimidate and now this

[finite reef]

I can't believe they added 13 Incineroars

[clear lichen]

Don't forget the hisuian form being arguable for best starter in the game

[molten loom]

No, it's getting put in the incinerator

[grave jolt]

one for each good type

the incinneroarter

[clear lichen]

The best starter though I'd say is Rillaboom simply because it is great in Singles (not the top 1) and also VGC (not the top 1)

The starters that are top 1 in Singles and VGC are terrible in the other format

[molten loom]

I wouldn't say I dislike a lot of mons, but Cherrim and Cerrubi got dropped all the way down on my list because of the quest in Legends Arceus

[clear lichen]

Maybe the true Gorilla Tactics were the Tapus we made along the way

I dont even know what that means

[grave jolt]

I only dislike a couple mons

Like every UB

And incineroar specifically

[clear lichen]

I dislike a small number of mons too (most babies and Flutter Mane in particular)

Flutter Mane should stick a fork in a toaster

Maybe that's how it died

[glass patio]

what do u have against incineroar is it because it stands in two legs

[finite reef]

It would be cool to have the 4 Tapu's added; Taou Koko, Tapu Lele, Rillaboom and Tapu Fini

[clear lichen]

That's Tapu Rilla to you

[finite reef]

Tapu Boom

[glass patio]

I see nothing wrong here

[clear lichen]

That doesn't have 2 syllables in the 2nd word

That's why Tapu Rilla is better

[grave jolt]

I wanted a panther, and I got...that thing.

[clear lichen]

We can leave Buluboom crying in the corner over losing its job

[glass patio]

oh

that’s sad

[stuck bane]

New list after reveal of Kalos starters:

Pokémon by how many of each type in the game by slots and percentage:
38/77 Bug Types (49.3%)
30/48 Dark Types (62.5%)
39/48 Dragon Types (81.2%)
28/55 Electric Types (50.9%)
30/47 Fairy Types (63.8%)
33/56 Fighting Types (58.9%)
41/67 Fire Types (61.1%)
60/106 Flying Types (56.6%)
35/45 Ghost Types (77.7%)
57/97 Grass Types (58.7%)
46/68 Ground Types (67.6%)
20/36 Ice Types (55.5%)
47/84 Normal Types (55.9%, excludes flying)
47/66 Poison Types (71.2%)
47/89 Psychic Types (52.8%)
42/62 Rock Types (67.7%)
34/50 Steel Types (68%)
73/135 Water Types (54%)

[finite reef]

What's your opinion on Meowscarada then

[clear lichen]

Tony the Tiger loses to Smokey the Bear

[silent acorn]

BRUH

[clear lichen]

It's a proven fact

[umbral river]

I never thought I'd see the day, where Water Types are at the bottom of a list detailing amount of Pokemon in the game

[silent acorn]

IT'S THE KALOS STARTERS!

[umbral river]

I know it's a percentage list but still

[finite reef]

Ironically it's because there's SO MANY water types

[clear lichen]

It's alphabetical

[umbral river]

Oh it is alphabetical

Woops lmao

[grave jolt]

The concept fan art for incin was great! Then it was unveiled and all my excitement for the actual games died with it. Never been hyped for a new pokemon since.

[silent acorn]

DUDE

[clear lichen]

Bugs are at the lowest, followed by Electric

[silent acorn]

ITS REAL KALOS IS HERE OH MY GOD

[umbral river]

I think the last percentage list I saw was in order of biggest percent to lowest so that's why I assumed

[glass patio]

damn

[clear lichen]

Numerically, it is Ice, but Ice has the lowest number of Pokemon

[umbral river]

Yea because gamefreak is scared

[glass patio]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-charjabug-gif-8906028

would be funny

[clear lichen]

Scared of the cold? Weak.

[umbral river]

Super funny

[glass patio]

vikavolt is cool and all

[grave jolt]

Except sprigatito, where I thought GF was righting their sins. Turns out, incineroar 2

[glass patio]

but charjabug

[silent acorn]

WHERE IN THE FUDGE IS MORDRID WITH THAT ROTTEN SKEPTICISM

It happened

[glass patio]

vroom vroom

[silent acorn]

oh yeah

[full bison]

My dislike is reserved for the Galar fossils and Chingling

Like,why does Chingling exist

[clear lichen]

Chingling isn't the worst

[finite reef]

Lil rectangular prism bug

[clear lichen]

That'd be Igglybuff

[full bison]

Chimecho is a dogwater Pokemon

[clear lichen]

I'm an expert baby hater

[full bison]

It needs an evolution, not a baby

[clear lichen]

And I can tell you, Wigglytuff is a lot worse than Chimecho

[finite reef]

It's need an evolution, then that evolution needs a Mega

[clear lichen]

The only reason Igglybuff is accepted and Chingling isn't is because Igglybuff is older

[grave jolt]

😦

[glass patio]

y know what i disliked

quaquaval

[clear lichen]

At least Chimecho has had low tier success

Tell me

[glass patio]

i liked quaxly so much

[clear lichen]

What has Wigglytuff ever done for anything and anyone?

[glass patio]

that evo was so disappointing

[finite reef]

I used to hate Incineroar, but now I main then in Smash Ultimate

[clear lichen]

Look cute?

Because it sure as hell isn't doing anything in battle

[glass patio]

now i just like skeledirge like everyone 😔

[finite reef]

Provide funny calcs for "walling" Dragapult (it sucks)

[umbral river]

Looking cute is fine by me

[grave jolt]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/s/o325McQX2x

[clear lichen]

I remember seeing those, didn't Dragapult still beat it 1v1?

[glass patio]

that looks cool

[clear lichen]

Or am I misremembering

[umbral river]

Absolutely what I was expecting from Quaxly

I still like Quaquaval though :)

[glass patio]

quaxly could have become like one of my favorite starters of all time

but

[clear lichen]

Idk I kinda like the flamboyant dancing duck

[umbral river]

Yeah I like the dancing duck

[clear lichen]

It is absolutely gonna Aqua Step someone's face in and act like nothing happened

[umbral river]

There's not really any Pokemon that I hate, to be honest

[finite reef]

The animations really elevate it

[glass patio]

it looks weird af

😔

[umbral river]

I mean there's definitely some Pokemon I hate

[grave jolt]

https://fxtwitter.com/doodletime_/status/1499006964822843400

[finite reef]

What about Gothita?

[umbral river]

I like Gothita

[hot hamlet]

But the central theme is “entertainers” how is this entertainment-focused?

[umbral river]

Just thought of one, Salazzle

[clear lichen]

Stealing souls (for entertainment trust)

It's just a prank bro

[umbral river]

Like, there's definitely some Pokemon I hate, there's over 1000 of them now I'm bound to hate at least some of them

[glass patio]

gen 9 is disappointing 😔 idk which pokemon i like from it maybe i’m forgetting something

[hot hamlet]

Also just looks like a slightly modified Decidueye. They already have an owl

[glass patio]

maybe clodsire

[hot hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/toedscool-pokemon-scarlet-violet-running-gif-27666827

[umbral river]

Toedscool!!!!

[clear lichen]

Like at least a quarter of Gen 9 is in A tier or higher

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/tinkatink-klawf-tinkaton-pokemon-gif-1602862821613038745

[clear lichen]

And then most of them are higher in B tier

Imo

[glass patio]

oh wait i just rember dachsbun exists

[hot hamlet]

The mons are upper B, low A to me

It’s the game I hate

[glass patio]

i really liked fidough when it was announced

[hot hamlet]

Same with Gen 7

[glass patio]

evo did not disappoint

fav fairy type

[clear lichen]

But I think Gen 9 also has lower tiered low tiers than other gens

[alpine rune]

I think gen 9 is disappointing for us because there is no Ninjask/shedinja

[clear lichen]

That may just be because of how much I fucking hate Flutter Mane though

[alpine rune]

Same here

[glass patio]

smh

[clear lichen]

TLDR: Imo, higher highs, lower lows

[umbral river]

something something dlc that i never bought and never will

[glass patio]

https://tenor.com/view/fidough-picmix-pokemon-bread-gif-9930132837587746877

doggo

good thing about gen 9 is that it brought back minior

[clear lichen]

I'm gonna be honest, the Gen 9 games may be my favourites, I didn't really have any of the issues most people complained about (lag, glitches etc) despite playing about as soon as it released

[umbral river]

Am I seeing the same gen 9 you are? I thought they didn't bring back Minior

[clear lichen]

DLC lol

[glass patio]

on the dlc

[umbral river]

I thought the DLC excluded Minior???

[clear lichen]

You can also trade Minior into Gen 9

[alpine rune]

True but check out this silly little girl:

[clear lichen]

Even if you don't have the DLC

[clear lichen]

That's part of why I said higher highs

[glass patio]

idk man i don’t even have a switch

[analog stag]

She’s so silly

[umbral river]

I thought the excluded Pokemon from Gen 9 were Furfrou, the Unova monkeys, Patrat, and Minior

[hot hamlet]

I didn’t have the issues either. I found it very meh on launch, then hated it when I went back so me and my brother could have the third starter.
Then DESPISED it when I had to do it AGAIN because my save got wiped on a hardware problem

[pallid spindle]

FINALLY THE GEM 6 STARTERS ARE HERE!!!

[clear lichen]

Silly goober

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-scarlet-violet-ogerpon-smile-oranges-gif-8050393540909558066

[umbral river]

Also I liked Gen 9 the games up until the game threatened to oven-toast my Switch because it is optimized worse than Bedrock Minecraft

[glass patio]

what was i talking about yeah gen 9 is not disappointing i just forgor

[clear lichen]

I seriously just didn't have optimisation problems or glitches

And I don't know how or why

[pallid spindle]

Same

It ran fine

[clear lichen]

Because almost everyone complains about them

[alpine rune]

I never had played gen 7 and onwards but I really do like gen 9 more than gen 8

[glass patio]

except for q*aquaval

[umbral river]

To be fair I think younger me wasted that luck on LittleBigPlanet 3
Everyone said that game was glitchy and I never experienced any glitches

[clear lichen]

It just feels so weird that people manage to accidentally clip into the world on a regular basis

[grave jolt]

I wanted a quadrupedal cat starter 😦

[clear lichen]

Ah well, not complaining that I'm not having issues with a game that everyone else does

[umbral river]

Rotate Incineroar 90 degrees

[clear lichen]

Most starters are gonna be bipedal and you can't really do much about it

[glass patio]

i didnt want a dancing duck 😔

[grave jolt]

My favorites from each generation except 9 are all non-bipeds

[clear lichen]

My top 3 all don't have legs they use for walking

[glass patio]

what about birds

[clear lichen]

Latios has hands I guess

Lunala has 0 limbs

[prime dust]

the true horror that awaits if gen 8+ gets added

[glass patio]

https://tenor.com/view/talonflame-pokemon-pokemon-talonflame-flying-hawk-gif-7838614979893468103

[clear lichen]

Volcarona has tiny stub limbs

[grave jolt]

I meant starters

[glass patio]

that’s a funny sprite

[clear lichen]

Oh

Well my top 3 favourite starters are probably just

[glass patio]

oh ok

[clear lichen]

The Paldea starters

[hot hamlet]

Mine full-on bricked when I was one Fezandipity from a complete Dex.
And getting a new hardware when I sent it in for repairs caused my SD card to get wiped so I lost Let’s Go, Sword, AND PLA alongside my TWO Scarlets!

[clear lichen]

Idk I just really like the Paldea starters

[glass patio]

wait nah i like decidueye tho 😔

[clear lichen]

Other Pokemon that are high up there are Serperior and H-Samurott

Technically Naganadel is a starter

Just saying

[umbral river]

Does gen 6 have non-bipeds?

[glass patio]

yay edgy samurott

[clear lichen]

Anyways if you include that technicality it's also up there

[glass patio]

no

unless you count pre evos

then fennekin and froakie

[clear lichen]

Does Greninja count as a non biped

[glass patio]

idk

[clear lichen]

It is usually depicted on 3/4 limbs

[umbral river]

Greninja is bipedal

[pallid spindle]

I do to

[clear lichen]

But is also depicted on 2

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-gif-dancing-pokemon-froakie-pokemon-froakie-froakie-dancing-gif-25370725

[clear lichen]

And 4

[grave jolt]

Froakie line stays on all 4 primarily

[glass patio]

i’m not sure froakie also stands in 4

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/froakie-hit-slap-pokemon-gif-17213486

Yeah it does

[clear lichen]

Greninja stands on 3/4, 4/4, 2/4 and if you include promotional art 1/4

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/lucario-greninja-walking-on-water-gif-25584661

[clear lichen]

What does that make Greninja

[pallid spindle]

Greninja fusions are gonna go so hard it’s insane

[umbral river]

Yeah Graninja is probably bipedal

[grave jolt]

Bipedal Greninja is cursed.

[mystic kernel]

yooooo starters actually got added :OO

[umbral river]

I'm excited for Mismagius / Delphox

[mystic kernel]

thats 9 whole mons

[clear lichen]

Yeah I'm so used to seeing Greninja on 3/4 legs that anything else feels weird

But they all exist

[prime dust]

the real question is if a Naruto sprite has already been made for Greninja

[mystic kernel]

wow some good mons we're added in this event huh

[grave jolt]

Greninja should just...jump.

[grave jolt]

Ones in development iirc

[clear lichen]

LTG ass phrase

[molten loom]

Pretty sure it spent most of the time in the anime on 2 legs

[glass patio]

good mons? carbink is plural now ig

[clear lichen]

I dont watch the anime so that explains that

[pallid spindle]

YOU SHOULD JUMP NOW!!!

[umbral river]

What do you guys think Shedinja / Greninja's fusion will be called? Shedinja or Shedninja?

[hot hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/mega-greninja-ash-greninja-transformation-powered-up-new-form-gif-14159547

[clear lichen]

I just see it in Showdown

And in official art

That's it

[hot hamlet]

It’s always bipedal

[clear lichen]

I dont use it in game a lot but that too ig

[stuck bane]

That one is just alphabetically ordered lol, I got the numerical and percentage ones elsewhere but I’m not gonna post those unless necessary since they’ve changed a lot

[hot hamlet]

Game example?

https://tenor.com/view/greninja-pokemon-super-smash-bros-gif-23685337

[brisk vessel]

It's not golisopover yet

[prime dust]

spelling for both fusions is just the same as their normal names

[clear lichen]

Yknow the sprites

Like

All of them

[mystic kernel]

wait theyre still adding yet more mons?? I haven't even gotten to try the other new ones yet lol (i rarely play this game)

[hot hamlet]

Ik

[clear lichen]

Or ig models

[prime dust]

you got time

[clear lichen]

I just am always seeing it on 2 limbs

[prime dust]

6.3 is going to be a good ways out more than likely

[clear lichen]

3

[mystic kernel]

i mean like meloetta

[clear lichen]

I love typos

[stuck bane]

More options to add to my nuzlockes is always good though

[clear lichen]

I love having brain injury

[hot hamlet]

Well they aren’t in yet anyway. Unless you mean 6.0/6.1 mons

[grave jolt]

From seribii

[hot hamlet]

Yeah this pushed my timetable from “any second now” to mid-October at the earliest

[umbral river]

Definitely

6.3 in Christmas

[hot hamlet]

Frog did say when I predicted November “hopefully sooner than that since I’m just waiting on the contest mons”

[brisk vessel]

Oh yeah is Greninja Water or Dark if it's the body of the fusion

[umbral river]

Dark

[hot hamlet]

Water head dark body

[brisk vessel]

gg

[molten loom]

Delphox is Psychic body

Fire head

[hot hamlet]

That’s weird to me and idk why

[umbral river]

The amount of Naruto fusions that'll come from Greninja body

[grave jolt]

Chesnaught is just grass

[hot hamlet]

Idk they just seem to want ash-Greninja rn

[umbral river]

We're gonna get the entire Naruto cast. And then some

[molten loom]

Chesnaught is Fighting body

Head grass

[unkempt stone]

Anything new shown?

[umbral river]

Nah

[proud lion]

#1281416359703609386

[unkempt stone]

Oki

[grave jolt]

Chesnaught should've been either grass or steel

[hot hamlet]

Has anybody seen cool art of the starters yet? Or are we still in the “quick sketches/easy sprites” phase?
Know I saw some Delphox already but it was mostly “other mon with big stick and more fur”

[molten loom]

Outside of the starters and hats on pokemon from the stream, no

[glass patio]

bro is gonna make all the quilladin fusions

[umbral river]

Wait hats on pokemon??

[hot hamlet]

Technically we got the new boutiques

[unkempt stone]

I’m excited for what’s gonna get revealed in the next couple of days

[molten loom]

Ah you weren't there

[umbral river]

I was not I had class

[empty leaf]

Oh hey, more pokemon coming in, that's alway cool

[proud lion]

If no one wants their dex completion.

[glass patio]

Wait what

[unkempt stone]

I think I saw the boutiques

[hot hamlet]

Any hat you wear can be applied anywhere on a Pokémon

[silk narwhal]

I KNEW IT I FUCKING KNEW IT I TOLD YOU GUYS THEY'D ADD 27 MORE POKEMON IN ORDER TO REACH 500

[glass patio]

Holy shit

[umbral river]

Oh my god

[molten loom]

There is a new quest and you will be able to put hats on pokemon after

Well once 6.3 drops

[umbral river]

And what about the boutiques?

[hot hamlet]

Hair and clothes shops

[molten loom]

Hotels, and pokemarts

[umbral river]

This is amazing

[glass patio]

old pfp i had i want a top hat on a shedinja pls

[unkempt stone]

I don’t think it’s 27, it’s like 15 I think cus of the Kalos starters or something

[hot hamlet]

Hair is in Hotels, clothes in Marts

[umbral river]

Hotels too??

[unkempt stone]

Unless I’m wrong

[umbral river]

Oh I see

[glass patio]

but wait how does the hats on mons thing work

[outer matrix]

I wonder how the hats are going to work entirely, considering how a Pokémon's position varies between sprites

[silk narwhal]

I said 27 total

[unkempt stone]

You can manually place it

[hot hamlet]

Ever played the Pokémon musical thing from Gen 5?

[glass patio]

Ohhhhh

[empty leaf]

||now to wait for someone to make a Delphox/Aegislash fusion, that's going to be sick||

[umbral river]

Oh it's based on that? That's even better

[glass patio]

now it makes sense

[hot hamlet]

That but anywhere on the png

[hot hamlet]

Aegi/Delphox. You want the Phox body

[umbral river]

Please tell me we're getting gen 3 / 4 pokemon contests as well /j

[glass patio]

i shall give da boi a top hat

[empty leaf]

been a while since I've last played

[hot hamlet]

For instance, there’s a Pikachu hat. They put it on Rockruff’s tail

[empty leaf]

...but I can't wait to see that

[silk narwhal]

All new mons + the 2 number gap are in total 17 mons. So they're adding 10 more

Wait maybe not

I miscounted i think

[umbral river]

15 new mons!

including the secret 2

[hot hamlet]

Remaining mons, +2 gap =15

[molten loom]

Math

[umbral river]

Math!

[hot hamlet]

For the record, 11 UB not including Sol or Luna

[umbral river]

11 UB + Cosmog line does equal 15

[prime dust]

those aren't ubs tho

[umbral river]

Now that's what I call Math

[glass patio]

wait no i need minior

[silk narwhal]

I swear to god if we still don't get golisopod

[umbral river]

Sorry too bad minior gon

[prime dust]

solgaleo and lunala are proper legends not ultras

[silk narwhal]

No fucking way he gets shafted for the fifth time

[hot hamlet]

Breakdown of remaining g mons before we have them all starts here#general message

[prime dust]

meant to type aren't

[silk narwhal]

Wait are they adding only special mons

[prime dust]

must have slipped

[umbral river]

He uses Emergency Exit

[thorny ferry]

golisopod never getting in is a meme now

sadly

[mystic kernel]

ye i meant those from a while back

[hot hamlet]

Oh

[silk narwhal]

It's so fucking frustrating

[prime dust]

again you got time

[molten loom]

We don't know

[umbral river]

It's the new Palossand

[prime dust]

it'll be a month at least before 6.3 comes out

[flat ruin]

Happy to see chespin in, still forever hoping we get the elemental monkeys, I want simisear so badly ):

[prime dust]

start trucking through some saves

[silk narwhal]

Now there's 15 more slots, can they not spare two for him jesus christ

[prime dust]

never

we will make them and the pikaclones the last thing added

[hot hamlet]

Well he needs 3 slots

[umbral river]

wait what's the joke

[silk narwhal]

I don't get it

[outer matrix]

Add in all popular pokemon so that the other, less popular ones can make it in the game without getting overshadowed

[hot hamlet]

You said “save 2 for him Jesus Christ”
Jesus needs 3 because he is 3 beings

[umbral river]

Add in only non-popular Pokemon so the people wanting the popular ones die of rage

[umbral river]

Ohohohoho

[silk narwhal]

[lethal reef]

Okay if there's 15 slots does this mean it's not golisiover????

[umbral river]

Potentially

[silk narwhal]

It could still be

[lethal reef]

PLEASE

JUST LET THE BUG IN

[silk narwhal]

He had a billion chances but he KEEPS FUCKING LOSING HRAAH

PLEASE

PLEASE

[umbral river]

What's that? We should add Vikavolt as the bug instead of Golisopod? Alright

[outer matrix]

Golissiopod's announcement should be it trying to use emergency exit, but it gets denied doing so

[elfin forge]

Will pokemon #500 be the last one forever? Or will there be more in the future?

[lethal reef]

This but with golisipod

[umbral river]

More in the future

[silk narwhal]

Oh probably more

[umbral river]

At the very least they still have to add the gen 5 and gen 7 starters

I believe they did say they'd add all the starters up to gen 7

[silk narwhal]

That's not even close to 1%

[umbral river]

Just... at some point

[silk narwhal]

Zoro would have died on the spot

[thorny ferry]

stay strong, wimpod line fans 💔

we mortals can't compare to you

[umbral river]

Oh please, I'm a Silksong fan

I'm immune.

[silk narwhal]

Not even Kuma would be able to endure all of my pain

[unkempt stone]

Would depend on if we get more available space

[prime dust]

you're immune to the fact your game is an illusion

[umbral river]

Yea.

[prime dust]

frog "might"

no guarantees

[molten loom]

We don't have a limit on space anymore

[umbral river]

Ohhhhhh

[prime dust]

i mean we do but

[molten loom]

Well the game doesn't

[unkempt stone]

It’s like

[prime dust]

the number is so high we don't really have to worry about it

[unkempt stone]

An optimization/storage thing

[umbral river]

The number is 501

[silk narwhal]

Why can i not react

[prime dust]

no

[lethal reef]

Silksong fans 🤝 golisipod fans
Never getting the bugs

[umbral river]

yes

[prime dust]

i think frog said we could add like 100+ new generations of mons into the game before we hit the issue that plagued 5.3 and earlier

[umbral river]

oh my goodness

They're set for like... 2 centuries

[lethal reef]

The real question is, what comes first: silksong releasing, golisipod getting IF, or the heat death of the universe???? The answer might surprise you

[umbral river]

max

[prime dust]

yeah, so the real limit is gen 7 unless Frog wants to manually do gen 8+ abilities and moves

[bitter comet]

The third option

[silk narwhal]

I think it was because fusions used to be calculated at all times

[bitter comet]

Or someone does that coding for him

[silent acorn]

Damn that's so funny Har Har Har...

[silk narwhal]

While now they're created only when needed

[silent acorn]

Should I...

Make a Delphox killing machine?

[silk narwhal]

So there's several tens of thousands of pokemon less

[bitter comet]

I’m all for killing

Kill everyone

[molten latch]

YESSIR

[silent acorn]

I feel

The desire

[bitter comet]

It’s entertaining

[molten latch]

FROG

[umbral river]

Slaughter.

[bitter comet]

Violence is the only thing that keeps me satiated

[silent acorn]

Gonna

[lethal reef]

At least golisipod has some chance of getting in, my other fav is gigalith and that has no chance

[stuck bane]

I feel you bro, Giga would be so cool

[snow scroll]

I will pray for a playable Sawsbuck or Castform

imagine seasons or fixed weather mechanics

[somber terrace]

Varoom/Revaroom Could have banger designs

[snow scroll]

two for the price of one

[molten loom]

I don't think we can complain about anything we get now, because frog will let us put hats on our pokemon

It's the best feature possible

[lethal reef]

It can kinda skip the three stage weakness because all th stages are radically different body plan wise, but also it's three slots so that's a lot 😔

[stuck bane]

15 is alot of room, I’m personally hoping for 6 unova to slowly keep chipping away at it

15 is enough room for unova starters and monkeys

[pallid spindle]

What else can we add from unova?

[outer matrix]

Still hoping for vanillite and lilligant

[white meadow]

Escavalier

[pallid spindle]

Victini for me

[stuck bane]

Everything on the unova tier not in red highlight

So a lot, like nearly 5 rows of unadded mons

[pallid spindle]

Oh yeah definitely Shaymin

[green laurel]

heres pory's playthrough stream, for anyone who wants it
https://youtu.be/Z4qzbzEnwcQ

[snow scroll]

unova has some unironically-great designs

[somber terrace]

Revaroom/Cyclizar or Revaroom/Koraidon could be cool...

[stuck bane]

Shay is Gen 4 but also a 3 so I allow it

[snow scroll]

like they're perfectly sandwiched between "new" and "old"

[green laurel]

@trail hull

[lethal reef]

If we get Munna and Mushrana I will literally cry with joy

[pallid spindle]

Emolga!

[snow scroll]

MUNNA

please please please gamefreak

[stuck bane]

I love floral pattern dream elephant, it’s already made some great fusions

[snow scroll]

give us a normal-type regional variant munna in legends

that's just a regular tapir

[somber terrace]

Get a fusion where it's Luna from Animal Crossing.

[finite thistle]

Not the most exciting starter lineup, Fire stab Mystical Fire access and special Protean are nice and Chesnaught makes for decent material being one of very few defensive Fighting types. Nothing as groundbreaking as Serperior or Primarina, but still some nice options

[stuck bane]

I thought it was tapir, heatmor is anteater I thought

[snow scroll]

^^ corrected

forgot heatmor existed for a hot second

[lethal reef]

Honestly even pokemon that I'm not too fond of in Unova are still such banger designs that I wouldn't mind, like heatmor and durant

[pallid spindle]

Everyone forgets

[lethal reef]

The monkeys are NOT included in this praise

[pallid spindle]

Thank god

[somber terrace]

Everyone did, just like Maractus...

[snow scroll]

the monkeys' base evo is good

[stuck bane]

Durant has amazing stats for body fusions

[finite thistle]

Not a big fan of gen 5's dex and I'm still a big Durant fan

[snow scroll]

anything with "simi" tacked onto it can perish

i do NOT like their evolutions

[clear lichen]

Everyone remembers Maractus because of how much people think of it as forgettable

[stuck bane]

Also Durant is fastest steel type body iirc

[clear lichen]

It's hilarious irony

[snow scroll]

give me my adorable fire chimp

[pallid spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/yveltal-pokemon-shadow-ball-yveltal-uses-shadow-ball-pokemon-yveltal-gif-8290430229392905395

[hollow creek]

WOWWWW

[snow scroll]

and keep him that way

[hollow creek]

IM GONE 5 HOURS

[pallid spindle]

True I actually like Maractus

[clear lichen]

Maractus is the antithesis of Charizard

[somber terrace]

Me too.

[clear lichen]

Charizard was so well liked it became hated

[finite thistle]

Also Entrainment Shenanigans with Hustle and Truant, though you might be able to simulate that niche with other mons that are fast and get acess to Hustle, Hone Claws

[white meadow]

That is so based

[clear lichen]

Maractus was so forgotten that it's generally a well liked mon now

The typos never end

[white meadow]

I fucked with Pansear so hard and couldn't stand how they did my boy

[finite thistle]

I will always prefer Cacturne. Its a far more interesting design

[hazy fable]

????????

wording bruh

[somber terrace]

Sweep with Maractus so that people remember the Maractus name!

[outer matrix]

Maractus and its cactus bunny ears

[clear lichen]

I love bad wording

It's funny

[pallid spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/maractus-pokemon-anime-hi-look-gif-22368298

[hazy fable]

its not if its something weird like that

[lethal reef]

Maractus is cutie and is only a one slot mon so therefore it's great

[hazy fable]

?tag rule

[opal trail]

No tag rule found.

[hazy fable]

aldjfhskfjs

my keynum is broke rip

[lethal reef]

BOT SAID NO RULES WE CAN RUN WILD

[hazy fable]

DKFHSKFJSKF

I feel like adonis is about to get their favorite fusion soon... Greninja/Zygarde

[grave jolt]

Gimme Zygarde 10%!

[somber terrace]

We've got to think of Pokémon to add that could have cool fusion designs...

[lethal reef]

Honestly if we end up getting the whole wrumple line I will laugh SO HARD but also be happy because wrumple is Good

[green laurel]

ah my internet cut out, but i was gonna say the video i posted isnt from pory or his channel. just from me recording it

[outer matrix]

Like with maractus' ears, they can become jester hat-thingies when fused with Mr mime

[grave jolt]

I would run through a playthrough with just 10% Zygarde

[somber terrace]

Pachirisu will have a crown because it is world champion...

[lethal reef]

You can do lots of really cool flowers with maractus!!!

[grave jolt]

YES !!

[outer matrix]

like?

[hazy fable]

they could also add Buzzwole and Cosmog... saw a screenshot of Cosmog/Buzzwole official fusion somewhere in this server

[somber terrace]

Shaymin

[hazy fable]

not shaymin ewww

if you want flowers, get flabebe

[hasty oyster]

you gotta be kidding me! WE GOT THE GEN 6 STARTERS COMPLETELY SKIPPING THE GEN 5 ONES

[grave jolt]

Flabèbè Eternal!

[white meadow]

Shaymin slander is crazy

[prime dust]

sigh

[hasty oyster]

C'MON WHEN THE GEN 5 STARTER LINE!

[white meadow]

Soon maybe

[lethal reef]

Change the maractus flowers to ones from the fusee's home region
So lots of sakura for Kanto/Johto, basically any north/central/South American flower for unova

[prime dust]

this is why

[hasty oyster]

hopefully soon

[prime dust]

gen 5 had the lowest popularity in the first vote that was done to add mons

[lethal reef]

Desert and mountain flowers for ground and rock types, water plants for plants types

[hasty oyster]

well hopefully they are next

[hazy fable]

People also been wanting Greninja which is a Mid tier

[prime dust]

no next will likely be gen 7 starters

[outer matrix]

The Gen 7 ones would be next

[prime dust]

it makes sense to add them in order of popularity

[grave jolt]

Funny enough, #1 on that list was the Gen 6 legendaries.

[hasty oyster]

why did gen 5 get the lowest though... werid

[somber terrace]

One pokemon that has a crown is Cacnea...

[prime dust]

no number 1 was sableye

[outer matrix]

I believe that the gen 6 starters are going to be the only reveal for the rest of the week

[grave jolt]

Was it?

How?

[hazy fable]

it was sableye that won last time

[prime dust]

yeah, but sableye was also the pick of hungrypickle

[lethal reef]

I am surprised we got the gen 6 starters just because the only really popular ones are Delphox and Greninja - I'd imagine the Alolan starters would be more popular overall

[hasty oyster]

yeah cause so far its now Gen 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6

[hazy fable]

*6

[snow scroll]

"there is no snivy, there is no tepig, and there is no oshawott"

[prime dust]

gen 6 you mean

[hazy fable]

7 is alola

[grave jolt]

Gen 5 didn't exist

[molten latch]

[hasty oyster]

when it's one of the best pokemon games,

[molten latch]

Hello Bazelgeuse

[hazy fable]

oot but Im always confusing Mordrid to Mordred. Where's Mordrad, Mordrud, and Mordrod?

[outer matrix]

There wasn't a Gen 5 or 7 reveal

[prime dust]

we don't talk about them

[hasty oyster]

now i think about it Delphox might be useful for Waifu Fusions

[snow scroll]

and the often-forgotten Mordryd

[lethal reef]

I never said anything other than gen 6
But yeah I'm still surprised we got the gen 6 first just because they're not the most popular

[grave jolt]

And Mordryd sometimes

[hazy fable]

Oh yeah Modryd is also here sldhfjsfnld

[green laurel]

the mord squad

[hasty oyster]

i might pull off a Lycanroc and Delphox fusion when the trio comes out

[hazy fable]

Gen 6 is the popular one bcoz Ash Greninja

[hasty oyster]

that depends if Battle Bond Greninja, will even be in this!

[prime dust]

ah...i also realized, that means frog will likely have to finally expand the triples list

[clear lichen]

If Ash Greninja gets added I will spontaneously combust

[prime dust]

it won't

it'll be a sprite reference at best

[hazy fable]

as a sprite

[outer matrix]

There is already one in spritework

[clear lichen]

That's the base Smogon sprite I think

[outer matrix]

It is(?)

[hazy fable]

arent we not allowed to have smogon base exactly as sprite?

[clear lichen]

We are

[hazy fable]

bcoz rights stuff?

ah

[clear lichen]

Just being glad that nobody straight speedran making an ash greninja sprite

That'd be a sign of disaster

[outer matrix]

Smogon does get credited if it's just their sprite put into the game

[coarse karma]

@low dock They did it Thorns, they got rid of my yellow colored name tag.

[bitter comet]

How do y’all think the next new mons will be announced?

Another vote or?

[somber terrace]

Pachirisu/Cacnea= Champion with crown.

[coarse karma]

I was and they took it away from us, swept it under the rug, like it never existed.

[molten loom]

But like, we will also get the ability to put hats on our pokemon

[proud lion]

Probably like Frog's picks ala Bewear to Cresselia

[molten loom]

You can't be mad

[bitter comet]

What are you talking about? It didn’t exist.

[proud lion]

Ditto

[bitter comet]

There is no yellow roll color for normal people in ba-sing-sa

[molten loom]

We sacrificed it to regain our color

[coarse karma]

last year the extra votes were based on staff picks so "might" be that again. we'll see i'm just overly excited for whatever else we get

[coarse karma]

sometimes sacrifices have to be made.

[hazy fable]

we are getting watchog

[coarse karma]

I honestly wouldn't mind.

[elfin forge]

We have enough cacti

[bitter comet]

Na, we are definitely getting MissingNo this year.

Trust me

[hazy fable]

better than elemonkes

[bitter comet]

My family works for PIF

[outer matrix]

Missingno body fusions will be a mess though due to the glitchy, blocky-ness

[somber terrace]

What if we were to get more Pokémon evolutions like Farigiraf, Ursaluna or Dudunsparce? Just add onto the existing Pokémon...

[bitter comet]

Feel free to try to code gen 8+ in then

But until somebody manages that we ain’t getting them

[white meadow]

Its been managed

[coarse karma]

man, i'd been ok with monkeys had we gotten snivy. only cause I want an excuse to remake this old thing. #1144114670043668540 message other than that, i do not want monkeys they eat up slots.

[somber terrace]

I mean Dudunsparce and Farigiraf could work...

[hazy fable]

annihilape and kingambit

[somber terrace]

Yeah, them too!

[hazy fable]

but yea were dont have confirmations whether frog would consider gen8+ now that it was sort of worked around

as much as we know frog isnt interested on it rn

[outer matrix]

Imagine if the 500th Pokémon was a Gen 8 one

[sick edge]

Wait someone figured it out???

[coarse karma]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-spheal-adorable-cute-gif-4056774077647241035

[hazy fable]

the 500th pokemon would be a Frog

[next flare]

Imagine stonjourner

[somber terrace]

This guy being an Empoleon/Annihilape fusion could be sick!

[outer matrix]

~~ that's even better tbh ~~

[hazy fable]

if its a bit ghostly and grey yeah

[somber terrace]

And its fur is flaring up too with red eyes and spiked cuffs on the wrists...

[hazy fable]

honestly I want Ursaluna be in the game aside from double fusion sprite

specially bloodmoon

[low dock]

That happened yesterday

[molten latch]

Spheal army, rise

[coarse karma]

@spice sage add in shaymin and togedemaru in October for sonic x shadow generations, waste a slot on toge. /j

[coarse karma]

I couldn't tell cause my name tag looked stark white cause of how light the yellow was XD

[somber terrace]

Delibird/Shaymin for Christmas...

[molten loom]

Frog add the monkeys because of this random ping

[small tiger]

no

[hazy fable]

Not the Monkes

[coarse karma]

Come on we all know that we love our overlord hypnotoad frogzilla

if we want to get what we want we must bask him in frog related fusions.

[sick edge]

Idk how many mythical/legend mons we're getting, if at all
I hope victini makes it in

[steel meadow]

Gogoat? More like gofrog

[sick edge]

Gogoated

[somber terrace]

What about Applin? If Applin and all of its evolutions get in the game, we have a lot more potential for fusions

[outer matrix]

hydrapple would be cool if it could get in

[steel meadow]

Gen 8+ isnt being considered at this time

As far as im aware

[somber terrace]

But its evolutions are Gen 9...

[hazy fable]

were sticking only up to melmetal

[steel meadow]

Gen 8+ encompasses gen 9 and all future generations too

[sick edge]

I think at least the coding for gen 8+ is being working on

[steel meadow]

I really hope they dont get the new gens in for a while

[sick edge]

if what I saw eariler in chat is true

[hazy fable]

emphasis on "sort of worked around"