#pif-hoenn-discussion
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Could it be the unova musketeer trio?
If it happens, it happens
Hmmm probably not
Remember, there's 2 slots
Meltan just feels right as a secret addition to the 500k memeber update
Absolutely not
It has to be a duo or a 2 stage line
I say this because I will it to not be so
Right eught
Psh that doesn't work
Volbeat and Illumise because the colours are becoming brighter frfr
Hmmm
Source: I made it the fuck up
I feel like a mythical duo/2 stage is possible and shouldnt be ruled out
Two mons that have something like these colors
Shut the fuck up
To do with color or something
Are our colors supposed to be rusting?
Oh could it really be Illumise and Volbeat?
This is peak
A bit rude
Our hated choice?
Red for Terrakion, Yellow for Cobalion, Green for Virizion, and Blue for Keldeo. /s
Guys it's Melmetal
I still think it's unrelated
I'd like this, but I believe there are only two slots
YEAH THATS WHAT THE COLORS REMINDED ME OF
I’m Gen 5 guy and I’m sorry yellow for Coba is a stretch
Hoopa and hoopa unbound feel likely too
Yeah it's blue
cobalion yellow?
So is Keldeo. X.x
It has a bit of yellow
Guys I think it's PacMan and the Ghost
Though if you do think it is related you can still say it's Volbeat and Illumise, and say something like the colours weren't fully illuminated and that's why they looked more saturated or something stupid like that
Duos... Duos.... Hmmm
And I do think it will be a troll
They have colors
Hoopa and melm are my guesses
That's why
I wasn't being serious, ahh.. 
He did Bruxish although the why I don't know. I think there is a category for hated mon
Also just to make it clear, frog said colors are just to represent the Gen 1 games, the actual colors don’t matter just the dimming part
Idk about you but when things get dimmer the don't become brighter in colour
Everyone knows the gen 1 games are grey, grey, grey, and yellow
Smh
I'm going all in on Volbeat and Illumise even though I think yall are onto nothing
Are they brighter for desktop? For mobile they seem faded or dimmer
Problem with this theory is that usually Red becomes pink in brighter light, not poopy brown
Those two would add like, nothing to this game.
I thought it'd be them before, I still think it'd be them
That's the point
It's a troll
Solgaleo and Lunala because light mons, Idk
Did you vote carbink?
Did you vote bruxish
I wasn't here for the vote
I forgot I said that already because I should be sleeping.
Yeah but what was your stance on it
the death of color => yveltal and so xerneas
Nor did I want Bruxish, but it has good fusions and I can't deny it.
Carbink was a funny potential option, but I was Golisopod
If you put a light next to a colour, they will become lit up and less saturated or something
Well anything that gets in ends up at that
A Pokémon that sucks out color would be so freaking interesting as a concept.
Not Volbeat and Illumise
They're the same, and they're both very mediocre options
Yes Volbeat and Illumise
I dont care for them, but they could end up as hated option
I will not humour this idea, and if it happens, I'll be mildly upset.
Anyway
ok listen
Wash up wishy
Manaphy blue, Shaymin green, Victini yellow, Hoopa red muahaha
Okay
volbeat is still better than plusle
I have a special place for those two
From Pokémon Ranger
But I agree
Literally nothing is worse than plusle and minun
Volbeat is the best of the worst
Barbaracle is at the bottom for me.
I don’t see how it could be hoopa tbh, no dex entries say anything, unless there’s some part of the movie mentioning washing out colors
It's ugly yeah but hey... Tough claws
I never saw hoopa movie
it took me a bit to get what this sentence meant and omg
Anyways I just ran my little experiment to make sure I'm not fucking stupid, and things do indeed become brighter in the light (shocker, I know)
That would be funny if true
Nothing to do with color
YEAH YIU MIGHT BE AN ACCIDENTAL GENUIS
Idk, Volcanion red?
Nah you're not cooking
Not only would Volbeat and Illumise match the trolling part from the past, it kinda fits for the colours becoming lighter and less saturated in colour somewhat
It is kinda that shade
I’m predicting meltan line then
RIP
What is even there to cook?
I love melmetal
Clown
I'm already cooked
People complaining about kommo and carbink being hard to sprite will explode of meltan is in
Yes you are
Why?
Reginut
That mercury texture
It's liquid metal badass
meltan seems so easy to sprite
It's a blobby boy
hes luqid guy with some bolts
Thats it, that mercury texture would be really hard to nail i think
Good practice for drawing curves and making shapes with them.
just make it white, its pixels, your not gonna go out of your way to perfect a "texture"
this isnt 3d
We'll see.
Shading:
This would be so funny, I think it’s technically a mythical, but the no legends limit only applied to the votes/raffle
ehhh
This stat spread is so fucking comedic
It is a mythical, that is indeed true
Love it great body
That's Melmetal?
Yep
My orginal thinking for melmetal being the missing slot was "Well it would be weird if just a normal mon for the celebration update, was the secret slot hidden for the update itself"
If you wanna complete pseudo
Ya need Melmetal
Numbers don't lie
Labels do
By the way
Urshifu is not mythical
It's a legend
Let that sink in
Its weird, its exlusive to pokemon go and lets go pika/eevee as a mythica;
Pseudo legendaries refer to non mythical non legendary Pokemon lines that have 3 stages and end with 600 BST Pokemon with some stupid specific exp group
No shit?
I thought that was obvious
I might just be an idiot
Outside of rarity and scarcity not much makes mythical
Or too addicted
of course it is?
its in the game
mythicals are not, you get em other ways
Kung Fu bear species that exists since who knows how long and isn't any measure of rare
I miss the days when mythicals were actual beings of myth and not just hanging out of dojos
Why would that make it a mythical either
Ah yes. But hey
It's just a weirdly common legendary and it isn't the first legendary that's just a species
I wish I could tell you I care about that label
But it has lost so much meaning
Wasn't mythical like go do this special thing irl to get it? Buy this other game or go to this store and pick up a code, download from the internet..
True
Now it's just extra annoying mon to get
the only difference is the arbitrary labels that GF assigns to them that a lot of us don't care about anymore
Before it used to be "GODLY BEING AMONGST POKÉMON"
i dont like kubfu as a legend should be a normal mon, i will forgive cosmog for being one due to it evolving into a mon seen in legends
Mythicals typically are only available via events but now like most of them don't need events
I like melmetal a lot because being exlusive to pokemon go makes it feel like an oddity amongst oddities
instead of us going by more sensible things like mon availability and base stat totals to determine it
Cosmog is neat because it's just narritively that way
Kubfu is bs
eh mewtwo is one too, and thats just a man made guy
So ig definition is a Pokemon that is first obtained from an event
I can see cosmog yea
Which would fit all of them
Its "oh that thing exists" but in a positive way
kubfu, the loyal three, ogrepon, meltan/melmetal, and phione are all just strong(ish) regular pokemon with plot relevance for me
Why our colors even more faded now. I can't see yellow anymore (
We have been trying to figure that out.
OK but Ogerpon is peak so it is forgiven
We are rusting
It’s barely visible, but still there, prevailing theory is colors rusting and melmetal but we haven’t gone through all mons yet
Loyal 3 are technically both species and one of a kind?
They're a species of a Pokemon altered from Pecharunt and only 1 altered version exists
(melmetal has the stats but I can't call something legendary or mythical when I can catch like 30+ of them in 30 minutes)
But Pecharunt probably could make more
it's in the same boat as archuraludon for me
Green one don't seem to rusting
They're only available from an event
Some people are and aren’t, but I can confirm green fade does exist
not if you have GO they aren't
ONE MAN MADE GUY
Opening the mystery box counts as an event to me
ye
And why rusting to be exact
just a clone of mew
if it happens daily then that's as much of an event as drifloon is in gen 4 rofl
so the colors becoming very desaturated could be linked to a new reveal?
Yeah silverr is green
borin
Good question! Ask them, I have 0 clue
Why not just fading or something
People think so, I disagree
same with gensect, thats just a fossil with armor
And if it is true I can still relate it to Volbeat and Illumise anyways
So it's fine
Man, my favorite event that had something to do with the name tags was the Necrozma reveal
Do you have a better idea to call what’s happening and tie it to a Pokémon not in the game yet?
It'd follow the pattern of doing a miniscule amount of tomfoolery every single time
Yes because that's such a bad reasoning
How does faded colours link to rust idk
Again do you have something better
I’m all ears
Xerneas and Yveltal felt more likely and those didn't feel likely at all
Yes, this isn't related to a reveal, that's my theory
Then why are you in new Pokémon discussion
Either that or the dumb putting a light next to a colour in the dark thing for Volbeat and Illumise, to work with the fact that it'd be an incredibly disappointing pick that matches with every pick from the past
AKA trying to half assedly explain something I would believe
Because most of the excuses don't make much sense anyways
Idk what to say apart from what I've said
That is a very fair theory
Actually a very abnormal clone of mew
and is probably closer to the actual case
Every factor that could have gone in the way to make it insane
Unlike genosect which were planned to be made in Mass
Then what is this? Why put all the effort in? For character customization? Can I make my character blue? (The color not the rival)
Mewtwo was effectively pushing Pokescience to its limit
Well if you think that's the case, look at the half assed Volbeat and Illumise theory
Where is that
That's about as feasible as all the others, if not even more so due to fitting with the theme of picking a disappointing pick each year

I've said it multiple times but I'll link one
Character customization sound interesting
This dumb explanation
There is a CHANCE, that its just for funsies 
Honestly 50/50
I would like that this color stuff was for a new pokemon but we could also being overthinking it, or not, thats frog's magic right there
TLDR: Probably doesn't mean much and if anything makes Volbeat and Illumise more likely
That's my opinion on it
we are probably overthinking it but the two missing slots are VERY suspicious
It's simple really, the past years had disappointing/unexpected Pokemon, this year likely will have one too
Thus, I nominate Volbeat and Illumise
its just two more carbinks
Though maybe it could be something more unexpected
Like some random mon from the middle of the votes
Like idk Spinda or something
Wait that's 1 mon
I think there is should be something new just by the fact that this chat is still exist
no pls anyone but those, i think even pusle and minus would be better
staff did say that it would be up for a little longer
actually not a bad pick
I dont think it'd be a great option either but that's the point
Picking a generally hated option
And still it strange to leave it for 3 days or so
I don’t think so, if Volbeat illumise were it they’d pull similar to a Necrozma and make most names black with a few extremely bright colors like hot pink instead of whatever red is now. I stand behind the rust theory because this seems a lot closer to what is happening now:
People have also talked about Binacle line due to frog liking Barbaracle and it would still fit the theme of generally unpopular
Tough claws would be nice though
If anything this makes me feel more confident it isn't Meltan or Melmetal
Why
The image I mean
It’s losing color what do you mean
Idk if you could tell but rust is typically brown
where is this image from 
sooo you think the colours are rusting?
Yes, rust is brown, but it’s not an immediate process, around the brown it loses color and then fully rusts away, like the dex entry said it rusts over a long time
I think so, or just for red
I'd give evidence reasoning but not only do I think my reasoning is bad and that there isn't even any link between fading colours and the new Pokemon
So yea, rust is brown, but the color fades and THEN rusting occurs, which could be next couple of days
But idk how to prove my theory without accidentally doxing myself even a small bit
Then don’t, safety on internet is more important
I mean nobody's gonna call up a geoguesser to pinpoint my location
But better safe than sorry
whats your theory?
so all of the colors will become brown/orange due to rust?
This server has 500k lurkers some could be bad actors
You know how colours appear darker in the dark?
You know how fireflies produce light?
Yeah that
we have the pictures of your goats, someone recognizes that grass
I won't bother explaining it well because I believe it as much as every other theory
AKA literally 0
Possibly? Or it could just stay like this, but if it were a simple “end of the event” thing they wouldn’t even bother changing the colors, they’d just end it
i think it will be barbarcle and they will be like "hey guys look" randomly one day
copium: white light is made up of all the colors, and our colors are fading into white aka light, it's lunala and solgaleo because honestly why is necrozma here but not them? 
Barbaracle also fits the "generally disappointing" theme
I personally like Barbaracle
But it is extremely hated by most Pokemon fans
At least from what I see
i like barbaracle bc i have it shiny
However, my stance is there’s something behind color changes. Probably a Pokémon similar to Necrozma reveal, but it could be something else. It’s not nothing though
makes sense :0
maybe the colours are fading away so it isnt weird that suddenly one day they arent there
I would LOOVEEEE BINACLE
I would love it, don't get me wrong, Lunala is tied for my favourite
but there's only 2 slots
4 is not equal to 2
Why? Removing roles is so simple, happens all the time, nobody is gonna be upset their roles disappeared one day because frog himself said they were limited time
it would be funny is it was actually lunala and solgaleo and cosmog just said bye bye
Lunala is lovely, and I'm honestly so confused how necrozma is in the game without them when it's all about fusing with them
cosmeom? Nor like cos no meom
yeah but like why wouldn't they do that, its neat
I guess…? Maybe?
I doubt it though
the thing is that none of the theories are really that solid
This whole thing is just the pattern seeking brain going insane tbh
It's certainly not as deep as people are making it out to be
After all, the colors becoming desaturated is likely due to how bright they stand out compared to the others that existed beforehand
This much is true, the only theory that kind of works rust but even that is grasping at straws, we just don’t have enough info
Honestly, How would Melmetal even work in IF? It has a super bizarre evolution method as it stands
the rust thing only works if something really weird happens later so like right now it doesn't really have a lot going for it
Mist stone at least would definitely work, but there’s gotta be something better than that imo: level up a meltan with 5 other meltan or meltan fusions in your party?
Yep
Mr courage I don't feel so good
I've heard that mist stones are hard to obtain and are scarce, so meltan would be stuck unevolved for a long while
Considering there’s only 2 in the whole game
Who wants to be my starter?
And what do you want to be?
Normal Lillipup, Ghost Machop or Psychic Bagon?
Lillipup because Gen 5 bias
there's one right before koga (level 35-38) and another after sabrina (level 45)
This you
Friendlocke or something?
I just wantet to do a fully random White playthrough and im gonna name my encounters after people on the server
Ok, cool, I don’t think couragestar fits tho so you can just do courage
I just didnt add the a in star
Your a Ice/Flying Whimsicott now
Bro
noone will believe that
Welcome in the team ig
The colours are fading
well im pretty sure it was faded more ebfore
red was very much a brown
now its back to atleast somewhat red
So do you guys think we will have news on the missing slot mons today since there’s something weird with the usernames or will it be some other day?
Your a Patrat now qwq
What does that mean?
A torrent Grass type one
.
They're fading
Guess you can call me Mintster J for the time being
Real answer: no idea
Our best guess if you put a gun to our heads: melmetal because colors fading and rust, but that’s mostly grasping at straws
What if the roles fading is like a timer for when the reveal the secret mons
Roles started fading earlier today, and some were affected and some weren’t
It seems like more are being affected over time though
Nice, nice
I’ve been brainstorming sprite ideas because work is slow
Shame I can’t do pixel art here 😔
I'm pretty sure all of them got affected at around the same time
Ooo could be
Could also be a goodbye to Fusion Day month
Or the update itself
No there was def a point where some people had brighter greens and blues like before and some like me didn’t
I doubt that, since there aren't that many sprites for the new mons
And also the dex gap has yet to be acknowledged
If that’s it, I’m guessing the missing numbers are skiddo and gogoat, since there are certainly a bunch of sprites for them
I think update will drop next month or so to make time for the 474 and 475 sprites
That didn’t stop Noivern and Lycanroc last time
Fair
Probs with the update
Wait noivern def had sprites before the update, did Lycanroc?
Although that could be soon, I think all frog has to add is the new mons spawn locations, right?
I still think it’s whatever had the most sprites during the celebration. No reason to ignore all that instant artwork
Barely any for both
Or new egg, “nest” locations
It’s not as simple as that, but the update is mostly done except for lurantis and carbink needing to be coded in
Because special vote/raffle were only decided recently
6.0 came out 7 days after lycanroc was revealed
that was 41 mons
BUT
this update is the customization update AND 8 mons
idk what my point is
Custom was done weeks ago per Frog’s admission
I picked a mon I thought would be easy and then looked at what doesn't have a custom sprite with it
I was thinking, what if the 2 unrevealed mons don’t evolve?
What if we’re getting 2 single stage mons?
Always a possibility
thats carzy talk
Luvdisc and alomomola
so we're just seeing if the color dulling means anything 
I mean we got Bink, anything is on the table. /s
I think the least interesting reveal would be two legendaries
Gimme the troll additions 😌
Dunno if it’s “easy” but… Lopunny/Octillery? Like, Ursula-style the octopus half replaces the lower half?
Not in any NSFW means, just my personal creature is a half-rabbit/half-octopus done in this manner.
rock candy?
A single monkey line gets added
Me, I freaking love Woobat 😤
Rock candy is a Slurpuff/Carbink fusion.
Yummy
I did say I’d be okay with one monkey, as all three have too much design overlap
Simple availability would be hype
That was weeks ago, though
YES
And unaware and that speed stat and heart stamp
Also Woobat is cute and seeing ANY pokemon with his AMAZINGLY ADORABLE HEART NOSE WOULD BE AMAZING
Simple Volcarona/Swoobat with Quiver Dance and Stored Power would make Espathra look pathetic
I don’t think it’s 474 and 475, but it’d be an awesome Valentine’s Day pick
WOOBAT IS THE BEST FUCKIN POKEMON AND I WILL FUCKIN DIE ON THIS HILL
You had me until the extremist take
It’s dangerous to go alone, take this:
Swoobat: team rocket Mon, good speed, only psychic type besides cosmog to get unaware, only flying type to get unaware, also only psychic and flying type to get simple, only flying type to learn heart stamp, and only psychic type head that can also learn heart stamp, also learns heart stamp the earliest out of all heart stamp users at the extremely low level 15 for both Woobat and Swoobat, also the only psychic type head to learn assurance, and the only flying type to learn odor sleuth, and the only non-legendary flying type with access to calm mind naturally
Valid tbh
Tbh, carbink has a pretty simple body
And there’s a fear it’ll just get head fusions
It's not a fear
It's a reality
This is why he's the best 😤
Get used to Carbink heads
I’m gonna do carbink bodies out of spite 
I just imagined a brown Carbink with Buneary ears

I’ve already got a fomantis/carbink idea
And, well, a carbink head rotom body idea based on a fulgurite
Rotom/Carbink would be an electromagnet would it not?
Ye I think someone already did Fomantis Carbink tho
@hardy tartan sorry
Do you like Lumineon or Cherrim more?
Flip a coin
Cherrim lost a lot of points from it's quest in Legends Arceus imo
I guess I like Finneon over Cherubi so there’s that
Not the best nature but nice
Imma feesh!
have the color roles became more grey-ish since an hour or so ago?
They're fading
I’m still minty
they been for more then an hour
Sword is almost gone
Working on getting a bluer one
Dragon feesh
I’m a discount Magikarp?
Close your literally a Grass/dragon type
A non-toxic Skrelp?
I think the name thing is because some colors are lighter than others even at full color
I feel this energy
So some will fade faster
Any theories on what the role colors might mean yet?
confusion
There are a lot
One with most colors gets their pre-selected mon added to the game in the missing slot
It's basically been like this a few times
Each color had a two-stage tied to it, we just didn’t know it.
The one added is whatever got the most role colors
This was me last night during the ORB conversation
im home chat
And your a Ice type snivy
votes are already done
what
Am I anything yet?
With Flame body
No you have to write when I get a encounter
...
do you want me to start ice type snivy with flame body propaganda
gimme a moment chat
Voting without knowing 
A timer for when we learn what the dex gap mons are
Or just Minior colours
@molten loom
Is trying to destroy the ice type magikarp
yes
Fitting
nah they are chill
@gray stream hey
didnt mean to make that joke oops

just noticed the name, this is peak
which rotom
And your a psychic Yamask
what ability
Have to go to the box
oh
Heavy Metal
one sec
lol
that's me?
Now make one for normal type Lillipup with hydration
Or did I die since I’ve been gone?
yeeee
Your still here
Tomate as a Flying type Flygon Torrent
Dark/Psychic Deino lol magnet pull
Melmetal is our best guess, but fading colors could work for dying minior too ig
so all of us will go and fade away? 
If it is a new Mon
Perhaps, this channel was shut down once before
I hope it’s minior
Minor would be so awesome, but I’m trying to keep my expectations in check
minior does have red, blue, green and yellow form colors, so you may be onto something
and the color roles are fading away, just like how a minior is like when exposed without its core for a while
It actually doesn’t have red, it has pink, also RBGY are only to represent Gen 1, the colors themselves don’t matter, just the fading
the pink color that minior can have is kind of closer to red 
Ice Kabuto
Minior would indeed be cool, mainly cause I've seen spriters cook for no reason with that mon lol
Still half hoping for amoonguss cause of all the funny amongus guys hidden in the 500k Pic but that's more doubtful loll
Dude completing all the poison types from unova would be hype (there’s only 3, scoli Garbo and Amoongus
)
Normal/Ice samurot (whats with all those ice types???)
Water Mudkip
I still see no appeal to this mon. Every reason for its existence would just become a color swap alt
THE EVO IS WATER STEEL???
I've seen some pretty creative sprites made for it already, a dugtrio one comes to mind specifically, but that's not to say you wouldn't be partially right on that
Dam
People don't know they want it till they get it lol
Just like Shinotiic would've been trust

I can be trusted with Amoongus Fuses it with Whimsicoot for prankster spore
You already know how many Amoonguss fuses would be with ditto for imposter
Tower the darktype foongus
So when do y’all think the update is gonna come out?
Also, is it me or is red paler now?
Town of Us mod.
Fuse to Lycanroc for Wearwolf
Or Ponyta for the Horse Mode April fools mode
Like it’s more pinkish now
Am I just going insane?
Silver the Ice/Flying metagross
Guys, the color roles are fading... maybe the hidden pokemon has something to do with it...
My eyes bruh
That’s literally a flash bang
I heard from someone that we’re rusting and that we’re going to get that one steel type mythical that you get from playing Pokémon go
MELTAN MOMENT???? LETS GO
Meltan and Melmetal getting added would be crazy work
It's very faded
ARegularBigJoke is very blue
Spriter role
Ohhhhhhhhhh
that's because I unchecked the new color roles after seeing how pale they were becoming
Guess you're blue, dabadi dabadi

I hope the new mon is revealed sometime before the end of the day for me
I hope the game updates this weekend so I can dedicate a full day of playing and not have to mute this server for 10 hours like the last two times
omg
omg :OOOO

He's gonna reveal to us the new Pokemon IF Contests mode
Where???
Under there

Its a screenshot from when lurantis announcements were being added
Very good to mess with people with

Damn, I don’t think yellow is yellow anymore
Sad
i thought i lost my spriter role for a sec 💀
the blue is much lighter
it’s fine it makes it more different
I lost my spriter disguise
damn 
The history of the world, I guess?
Man now I want to revisit that vid
it feels like it was yesterday when second best smol rock type was announced
Cus it was
-# if only the first one could be announced as well...
It was yesterday

damn im not the only one that thinks that? 
bruh
The thing in event announcements could be a clue to the next mon
Minior sitting in the Paldea time-out with Furfrou, Watchog and the Unova Elemental Monkeys:
we have two more pokes to go I guess?
Think about it they said the word comet shard, comets are from space, minior is also from space therefore we are getting minior
the design can make cool fusions plus it’s also a really cute fella 😔
majoras mask fusions here I come!
I love how people considerate Carbink better then Kommo-o
Because it is
yeah, better than slurpuff

My glorious king golisopod got robbed yet again 💔
I have been convinced that it is by all the cute fusions people make of it
They said dig, this means we're getting Drillbur and Excalibur
Looks more like a way to fill out Carbink as all fusions need to use it or Sableye
That would also be cool
i would have liked slurpuff but carbink is awesome too
I dont really like cute fusions but it have a lot of support
its like regirock and regice but cute and more stone-like
Probably.
It’s such copium but god excadrill would be so awesome
Pour more salt in the Golisopod wound it’s not like everyone else isn’t doing it
I'm looking
? What thing?
Link? I’m on mobile
Me dumb this next best thing
oh i love those worms in the tentacruel
Yeah the Slurpuff fusions are really creative
Churrotic is a strong contender
Just across the board
Spriters like candy 
And yes Gunmy Worm Tentacruel is a fun creative decision
These were just posted in spritework as well
yummy
Literal peak

The italicized words mean nothing
You could make Slurpuff / Magikarp be one of those fish things in japanese desserts that look like fish-shaped cookies
Fish cakes?
Taiyaki
Mt Moon treasure hunter and any Mt Moon

Yay!!!!
Nah but they’re saying like since it’s a digging event at the end you’ll find excadrill or something
Idk how much I buy it though, I feel it’s tied to loss of color in the roles
The goat is typing
That's made by the talented Quote.Lass. They're a wizard when it comes to Slurpuff bodies
I think it will not be announced until one day before the update just to screw with us
can I offer my tinfoil hat theory
Honestly slurpuff bodies are why I am hoping it doesn't get in, they are just not it man 😔
How amusing would it be, if... the missing pokemon... got no announcement...
speak your mind
(I am just as clueless as all of yall btw lmao frog is absolutely moving in shadows on this)
Sure
Slurpuff can only do desert fusions lol
tsareena can do a lot of sweets/desert and fashion fusions
Yeah your guess is as good as ours
especially with bounsweet
If they get in they get in, but I would prefer anything else
missing… no…?
We’re getting M’
Honestly Tsareena was my second pick after Slurpufd
Mango
faded colors, emphasis on comet shard... minior would be a huge W. Two slots could be its crust and core forms 
it's most likely very wishful thinking though
I think NTM already did a super cool food based Tsareena fusion and it was amazing!!
oh yeah
… god damn it that’s a third Aegislash I need to consider for a future thing
I just really want Minior and Slurpuff lines lmao
I mean, I wouldn't mind both Slurpuff and Tsareena
Thinking, in the future at this point, but still
That was one of our ideas, the other idea we had was melmetal since the colors were fading/rusting:
So far those are our two best guesses
Another pokemon the you want an probably gets in?
Slurpuff is necessary
Even if Minior only got in with one form it would be super fun to sprite!! There have been so many cool core and unbroken merged fusions
Indeed
If you gave the people Tsareena they might not even ride so hard for Salazzle
We could see what people make with Tsareena first, but I just feel most people would not go the sweets route with Tsareena, but mostly just the fashion route
But between the two, if we’re correct, I’d want minior
But alternatively it could just egg them on
but it does both
Minior is just Husky led light pokemon with swirly eyes
People like sfx so they love it here
Again, we could see what we get with Tsareena
But it's no Slurpuff
ye I just want Slurpuff line because the sweets gives spriters a very fun new concept to toy with that we currently don't really have in other mons (plus belly drum unburden is hilarious)
WAIT NAH IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE MELMETAL THE EVENT FOR CARBINK/SABLEYE MENTIONS SHARDS
But I feel both would ultimately fill their niches together rather than Tsareena carrying both the fashion and confectionary industries
Nah Tropius is better for food 
And it could work too, gather enough meltan shards from rock smash to evolve one
oh god, farming for meltan shards
will admit its really fun not knowing whats cooking though
Potassium
Tsareena is the queen who can do both 💅
Frog's sneakin
Same
POTASSIUM
Slurpuff / Tsareena
Tsareena is pretty much just fashion girlboss lets be real
The fact he's sneaking makes me think it's big, but I also don't want to set high expectations haha
Tropius is bannana mon
Volbeat and illumise 
some ideas if you want
He's sneaking, it's a, a Pokemon that sneaks in the shadows,
No need for the dog. Just tsareena
The biggest of surprises 
With creativity, you can make Tropius any kind of fruit 🍓
comet shards… which is further hints towards the meteor mon
The jawbreaker one is interesting
Oh thank god I thought you were about to say he who shall not be named ||marshadow||
Honestly really good
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO
Im anti Tropius
Tropiss
EVERONE POST YOUR GENGAr fusions for when gengar hets in the game
holy arceus my spelling tanked
There’s arguments from both, but I’m leaning this way since it’s in the actual cave, not outside where minior would fall from the atmosphere
Tropius is neat but we have Meganium for that general bodyshape already so kinda meh on that
If you think slurpuff is good because it can make sweets you have to think Tropius is good because it makes fruit 
A balanced diet is important!!
One last argument. “Searching in Mt. Moon” does not mean in caves, the summit is in the heart of Mt. Moon and needs spelunking to reach
(plus the mon itself kinda ass for ingame potential)
Tropius has less going for it imo
As well
yeah Aurorus does too
Counterpoint: the utter hilarity of picking a banana and encountering a tropius
Implying you somehow mistook a whole-ass dinosaur for a banana
Slurpuff is general sweets. Tropius is banana
That's my thing is its basically a meme pokemon
But I dont think its nearly funny enough to warrant getting added
Never a lot of natural lighting in mt moon, the first sentence
Turn picking bananas into a -1 Karma activity like the sandcastles and Sandyghast
Sfx mons deserve priority
nah the funniest shit was Bruxish being added
NO SFX
that was genuinely hilarious
Brux was so funny but deserved
We should stop stretching before we both pull something
My friend got genuinely upset about Bruxish being added
Tsareena is fruit pastries
good
When I told them
Bruxish will never not be the best reveal in PIF history
Camerupt, Torkoal, Escavalier, Minior, Slurpuff, maybe Castform
I'm so glad
I don’t even know what the contest is for
Like… fanart?
Also fun fact, Bruxish has more fusions than the dragon legendaries of Unova
fusion sprites
its a spriting contest for the game
Just can be really visually interesting when a natural part of a mon
Not combined, obviously, but still
Honestly the escavalier /accelegor links would be SICK, they have such spriting potential
Like most sprite contests, probably to get carbink’s number of sprites up tbh
BRUXISH SWEEP!!!
Idk if Im big on accelgor
I'm eh on Accelegor but Escavalier would be really fun
The main thing is Accelgor got that big ol pink head
The bandages are cool but other mons could do ninja aesthetic
though if we're talking counterparts, I'd love to see Aromatisse alongside Slurpuff for the plague doctor theming
like greninja when it comes to if in 2048...
Ninjask 
Or Darkrai maybe or yeah ninjask depending on the body
Me when I wonder who Ninjasked:
Yes. We need more plague doctors than Murkrow and Honchkrow
There isn't a ninjask emoji
Shame ninjask is such ninjass for stats
Im anti aromatisse as well
I wonder if there's a Plague Knight fusion
slurpuff/vaniluxe + tsareena could give us Hatterine (in spirit lol)
An aromatisse spot is a spot taken from others
Honestly while I am hoping for Minior I would laugh so hard if the contest ends with you tracking a meteor shard and then finding out it slammed into like, a zebstrika or something.
Congrats Zebstrika comes to PIF!!
Swirlex/Ralts line for the whole set
I know this is a joke, but I was honestly thinking more like the mushrooms and paras
Biggest bait and switch possibilities ever
the "spot taken from others" strawman is outdated, space is no longer limited with how the game pulls up fusions
true
Yeah but what about the number of pokemon per route
who says new mons have to be on a route 
Overcrowding the map when reaching the borders of what the engine handles
theres also
Ah
For some reason “entries” made me think of custom dex entries
kanto
johto
islands
a lot more
the game is huge fam
there's so many places for shit to go
- new places can be added
Huge enough for everything
one day? maybe
it lands in a pumpkin patch and a Gourgeist eats it and glows supa bright and thus reveals the addition of Gourgeist in IF lol
not to mention there are a lot of NPCs that can just be converted to givepokemon as gifts
Yeah but that sucks
its that or overcrowd routes
I mean we get trubbish from a bin, I honestly would love more random events like that for pokemon 
I mean
I dont think there's a real risk in overcrowding routes rn with the rate mons are being added. Frog's planning shit out, its not like 500 new mons are gonna get shoved in overnight
They got hungry halfway through and a Slurpuff let them eat some of its sweets for an energy boost. All three continued the dig as friends
There’s actually less than 450 left overall
You're right, 510 new mons over night
true
I'd be happy
And all of them are Minior
Really wish forg would weigh in though
Okay but
Just possibility, y’know?
The map update made sure to include Olivine and Cyanwood, y’know?
its all castform
"Minior but instead of 7 rainbow colors it comes in all hex codes"
oh boy! 16 million variations
Nah, I don’t want him to weigh in until the very last second
For lols
But then we piss away the spots
From the sounds of the dialogues of Chuck and Jasmine when you go to fight them, their gyms do exist during the events of IF's post-game, so, if they wanted to, they could add Olivine and Cyanwood
Spinda 
Minior Hex Forms 
FUN FACT: there are only 339 missing mons from IF (not counting the ones to be added)

well what do you do in those cities ASIDE from battling the gym leaders?
I’d like them to stay on the Sevii Islands, though
visit the shuckle man
cause Frogman said he wasn't down to add them till something unique was there
If we count those we are only missing 333 before we have the complete Dex
Not what I meant
olivine has the lighthouse
They are on Sevii Islands for their own reasons
Here's an example of a carbink head fusion
idk could come up with something to add to them probs
Nah, I’m agreeing
But yeah, they could like, do something
I wonder how many fusion possibilities there will be once all the mons that can be added are in
but hey im not a game dev I just deal with sprites
The game takes place 3 years before Gold/Silver, they could figure something out
I thought the gen 1/2 divide was two years?
A quest to help Olivine construct/renovate the lighthouse could be cool.
🤔 the most obvious thing to be included there would be outfits
Huh
That'd be fun
for cyanwood you could help the secret medicine or w/e guy with his research on creating it. Maybe he needs samples of like Ariados poison etc.
secret potion
w/e the thing you give amphy is
Olivine gives you a free Gen 6 starter and Cyanwood gives you a free Gen 5 starter
..when they get added to the game in 2048
2048 is gonna be a W year
was there any word at all about the two skipped spots?
not yet
If this server is still around I'm going to remind you of this message if 2048 is bad
Frog is cooking something up in the shadows
that's a long way away, I wonder if we will still be using discord then
at that point we'll all have upgraded to uploading our souls to the net so we can play infinite fusion irl
every mon (*except minior) will be in and we can fuse in real time
forget the metaverse, everything will be owned by disney and it'll be the marvelverse 
Only Minior will be in Pokemon IF
The game will actually just become Chao Garden from SA2 but with Miniors
actually amazing
Whats up with Mt. MOON?
Vote me in next year amigos 
Is there an inside joke on why its called Cyanwood instead of Cianwood in IF?
Cyan is a color
no idea tbh 
probs just related to the gen 1 color town names?
I know cyan is a color but its Cianwood officially
I like Cyanwood better tbh but i am just wondering bc they call it that in gamr
Game*
"Cianwood City's real-world equivalent Naruto is actually on a different island of Japan known as Shikoku"
Maybe Frog just felt like making it Cyanwood
its called cianwood in game?
Rampant speculation
Yes, its Cianwood officislly
and in game
Yellow looks so faded
In IF it is called Cyanwood
where do you see that?
I would have to check but it is mentioned several times as Cyanwood
You’re baby blue
U can probably find screenshots on reddit
Nah I'm just dumb lol
Oop lolol
Otoh, there are consistent typos with “developped” for “developed”
So could just be a mistake
Lol, and the frog weighed in while I was struggling with mobile
Pokemon english is different its ok
you know, i think ive just been fixing it in my mind, when i read it in game
Blame my native language 
Its like British vs American english
Which language is that
Froglish
French puts double letters everywhere and it pours into my English 
Your English is a hell of a lot better than my French lbr
normal carbonk
I feel like there’s a joke to be made with how the Pokémon fusion names eschew double letters but none’s coming to mind
🤔 any more real words we can make with these names?
I remember I encountered a fusion in-game called Gender
Unfortunately this is its only custom sprite:
Unrelated but wtf that's yellow?
Oh yeah, the colors are fading
I know they are
Carbink/magneton = carton 😌
But Jesus that's so unobvious it's not funny
The yellow one is hit the most cuz it's naturally just close to being white when it's not highlighter color
mew fletchling is mewling
Like yknow the colour that people usually draw bones in?
That's what the yellow colour reminds me of
Yeah, but both of those are already in the game 
There's also a fusion for Math
Which has custom sprites referencing Alan Becker's "Animation vs. Math"
Bones
I think it's the only Alan Becker / Animation vs. reference in IF
But maybe Porygon has one
I know Porygon2 / Sunflora is Flowey
Yeye, but gimme some real words we can make with carbink, fomantis, jangmo-o, etc
And I think they took over Gaster's job as royal scientist
Mr. Mo-o
Carb jr is one I def know
But Carbink's bodies is any better? At least Slurpuff's bodies you can do a lot. Can't do much with Carbink bodies since it just a mediocre floating rock with eyes.
Carbohydrates, shortened to carb(s)
Okay but what if the two new mons are solrock and lunatone? 
I dont think people count shortened versions of words as proper words
Depending how the names break up, jangmo-o/smeargle could get jangle
Also I don't think Mo-o is a word
Fair enough, better never hear you say goodbye then
At least not an English one
Yeah carbink bodies are super cute and allow for a lot of creativity! You just gotta think a little outside the (car)box 
Were there any updates on 474/475?
Oh, it’ll be carb-, not car-?
Not yet
Are you trying to rickroll me
Ye, that’s what it says on showdown
No, goodbye is shortened for “god be with ye”, so if you hate shortened words man you’re gonna have a lot of words nowadays you’ll hate
They’re being pedantic about “goodbye” being a shortened form of “god be with you”
I dont hate shortened words
I just like being annoying about things
Like how cute these bodies are
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1280636469790375957
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