pif-hoenn-discussion

[silent acorn]

I mean they are 9 in a group

[hidden relic]

But there was very much overwhelming demand for them

[silk narwhal]

It's just bloat

[silent acorn]

I mean

There is fishies

[silk narwhal]

I'd much rather get all the legendaries

[silent acorn]

We got loads of dragons

[hidden relic]

like look at this from last year.

[silent acorn]

One day maybe

I get to have Witch Fox as my starter... One day

[hidden relic]

back to spriting I go

Working on more emotes of me 🤯

[next flare]

Try randomizers
https://www.fusiondex.org/38.255/

[static ridge]

Great move by Frogman there. People's votes just lead to the most obvious and basic choices. Every starter and then every pseudo and then every legendary and then...

[dim sparrow]

actually i am ok with jangmo line i just changed my mind
we got new pokemon which is better than nothing lol

[hidden relic]

What's really funny to me is like

[silent acorn]

Nah that one isn't what I want

[static ridge]

I'm probably in the minority but I do not want the outlook of every single starter up to gen 7 being in the game. At most, picking the most popular starters and having only 3 from gens 5-7

[hidden relic]

Within this chat there was like

[silent acorn]

Nah

[dim sparrow]

so that means everything minus emboar and chesnaught 🙃

[hidden relic]

barely any positive mentions of Kommo-o

[silent acorn]

Stuff would riot and break

[dim sparrow]

mine is also only semi positive

[silent acorn]

Silent outsiders

[static ridge]

Gotta say, at least it was not a Bruxish situation. I do actually hate that Bruxish made it in as a joke

[hidden relic]

But like

When you look at last years data

It was, and clearly still is super popular

[silent acorn]

To be fair last vote wasn't one of the top dogs

Was there but not really

[dim sparrow]

i think bruxish is unique and provides a new palette i dont think theres anything wrong with it
cursed sprites are part of the game

[silent acorn]

It won by a very little margin

2%

[static ridge]

Greninja - Incineroar - Decidueye and we pretend they're the same gen

[silent acorn]

Had we push goli a bit more we could have gotten it in

But I think it's safe to say Goli will keep being a threat in votes

[dim sparrow]

if they only chose those that would be xtremely dissapointing
i dont really care for any of theM
not true i like deciduye and the prevos of incineroar (incineroar too but not most of the time)

[silent acorn]

You'd like leaving primarina out huh

The normie choice

Greninja

Basic

[dim sparrow]

serperior for smug sneks

[silent acorn]

Here have your shuriken, go raid area 51

[hidden relic]

And then you look in general, and you get a good chunk of Kommo-o support, but not a lot lot

So Kommo-o has always just been

[dim sparrow]

greninja isnt really that interesting to me

[hidden relic]

This silent sleeper mon people wanted

And that's really funny

[silent acorn]

Kinda?

[dim sparrow]

the prevos neither

[silent acorn]

Wasn't really that relevant before outside Clangorous discussion

[dense perch]

and what is the least voted ?

im curious

[silent acorn]

Its other move did get mentioned

[dim sparrow]

volbeat

[hidden relic]

In this vote?

[dim sparrow]

and illumise

[silent acorn]

Did it change?

[hidden relic]

No clue, I don't got access to that

[dense perch]

btw why can't it be a free acces ?

[silent acorn]

Oh well assume it's the fireflies

[silent acorn]

Outrage divide

[molten latch]

Hello

[silent acorn]

If dragons show up high many will avoid them just because

So better give them a blind chance

[cobalt river]

arent the least voted 5 also in the pins? like directly ynder the pin of the top 5

[silent acorn]

Though pseudoes seem like the only ones getting high

[dim sparrow]

i really didnt expect this pokemon to even win

i thought people didnt like kommo-o

[cobalt river]

i knew it was going to win but i mourn it nonetheless😔

[static ridge]

Then it'd only be the gen 7 ones, I'm trying to do a cross-gen thing (except that the gen 5 ones suck so none made it in )

[dim sparrow]

with ''people'' i mean the ''general opinion'' who loves garchomp and greninja and gengar and why do these all start with g

[marble meadow]

still waiting for the contest result if not today maybe tommorow

[dim sparrow]

how dare you

only emboar line is not great

[static ridge]

I'm not biased, out of these 3, gen 5 is the only one I've actually played

[dim sparrow]

im ok with the water starter but they're not that interesting and serperior line is awsoem

[marble meadow]

one word for combee and conkeldurr conkelbee

[dim sparrow]

i am not biased either, i played gen 7 and 6

[silent acorn]

That's fine by me primarina is great

[dim sparrow]

i also like the gen 7 starters tbf

[hollow creek]

I’m only biased towards gen 2 and uh, yeah

[silent acorn]

One I don't care for its greninja

Greninja got overused too soon

[dim sparrow]

and fennekin is cute but i dont like the other 2 lines that much

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-draft-conkeldurr-conk-fighting-gif-4531051215651118401

[silent acorn]

Didn't establish it's rep over time unlike the others

[hollow creek]

Greninja is swag

[rain locust]

gren would add a genuine protean mon

[hollow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/greninja-pokémon-greninja-gif-25805681

[rain locust]

which would be interesting

[silent acorn]

Kid speaking

Ninjas cool

[dim sparrow]

no thanks

[silent acorn]

Hahahahshs

[hollow creek]

Me?

Whose the kid

[silent acorn]

I find samurai cool but I ain't saying Samurott is the shet

[dim sparrow]

protean is not fun to play against
sure its fun to play yourself but yeah

[marble meadow]

bro imagine greninja lickitung or lickylicky

[rain locust]

just use a regenvest mon

[silent acorn]

Tongue fusions

Lero lero

[dim sparrow]

i mean you arent limited to special with protean
could suprise someone

and u-turn spam

[rain locust]

then its clear whether its physical

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-slurp-secco-lick-jojos-bizarre-adventures-gif-15747265

[hollow creek]

Greninja is just that cool

[rain locust]

so you use ur physwall instead

[silent acorn]

Why because it's a ninja?

[hollow creek]

So are chesnaught and delphox

[hollow creek]

AND a frog

Peak

[dim sparrow]

but either way i think greninja's design is overrated

[hollow creek]

I really hope the frog surprise is a starter vote

[silent acorn]

That's personal

[dim sparrow]

the tongue worksn't

[silent acorn]

Ya know what

Nah we don't need starters

Too much bloat

[hollow creek]

Greninja is ass in smash though

[cobalt river]

If i had to pick one remaining starter for every type for IF umm
primarina for water. An actual mermaid mon would be fun (also please god give us another fairy)
Fire prolly Delphox? Magic witch theme for heads and the body silhouette is unqiue enough. I know Incineroar is popular but its just antoher Machoke/Machamp
grass wise its a tossup between decidueye and serperior. decidueye is prolly more unique i just also like snek
but really any starters would be fun, theres some good stuff there

[marble meadow]

i hope the next mon is something worth to turn it into a creepy fusion other wise i believe ralliv finds a way to turn it creepy

[silent acorn]

Just sprites his own face into it

[hollow creek]

Grass - decidueye
Water - Greninja
Fire - Emboar

[silent acorn]

Legit

The unbalance is bad

[silent acorn]

Two dark type starters huh

[dim sparrow]

used to play it for a bit lol

[hollow creek]

Gen 5 Starters are pretty weak

[static ridge]

that could work

[dim sparrow]

i dont like its movements

[silent acorn]

And a ghost one

[hollow creek]

Like stat wise

[dim sparrow]

i mean

serperior has contrary

[silent acorn]

That moment when Serperior has contrary

[hollow creek]

Pokémon Trainer solos

In their base game I mean

[rain locust]

grass starters be Bad.
fire: incineroar
water: gren

[dim sparrow]

pokemon trainer is fun to use in u

[silent acorn]

Serperior is fine

Is mono grass which let's you manipulate type better

[rain locust]

itd get contrary banned

then itd be ass

[hollow creek]

Is contrary actually that good

[silent acorn]

Now that's some nonsense

Why would it ban contrary

Has no rng involved

[dim sparrow]

(first one is collab with me and matin)

[rain locust]

click 130 bp move to get +2

yeah its p broken

[dim sparrow]

fuse with overheat mon

or draco meteor

[silent acorn]

Excellent one that first

[rain locust]

its balanced rn by being only on a 20 spa mon

[silent acorn]

Fire/Grass is super handy

Very complemented and solid

Dont nullify weather benefits

Unlike Water/Fire where the one you ate trying to exploit nullifies the other

[dim sparrow]

this probably also kinda stupid in sun but it doesnt become stronger
actually maybe just overheat

[rain locust]

enteiserp has bad stats

serpentei is mid bc no superpower

[silent acorn]

Could just fuse superpower into it though

Also

Overheat

[dim sparrow]

its a shame the name isnt actually serpentei

[silent acorn]

Really good

Kill kill kill

[molten latch]

No

[rain locust]

overheat off 80 spa

[dim sparrow]

yeah walled by some unaware and some dragons but whatever i am not in teambuilding mindset at the moment

[molten latch]

Unsure if Serperior is gonna be in the game

Despite not being in the list.

[dim sparrow]

unlikely 😔

[molten latch]

I also put it on 1 for a reason.

Call me wrong on how good it is on competitve or appearance. But I have a reason on my own.

[dim sparrow]

why is kartana in 1

actually every ub

[molten latch]

I forgot to put it on 2

So . . .

[dim sparrow]

i think the UB ones you put in 3 are the least interesting to me personally
ok except guzzlord it is interesting but i cant think of spriting with it

[molten latch]

Yeah. . .

I forgot the good once.

NGL

[dim sparrow]

honestly all of these except for the lake trio I think have at least some potential

the lake trio is just mew 3 times again

[molten latch]

Kartana, Blacephalon and Nihilego couldve been higher

[molten latch]

Yeah, the main reason is just for Sonic reference.

(Oh also, I forgor Magearna and the Melmetal line)

[dim sparrow]

sonic reference?

[molten latch]

Yes

You just dont see it.

[hollow creek]

Xurk and stakataka would be great

Lake trio are ass though 100%

I wouldn’t mind them if they were just added as a bonus

[molten latch]

True

I should change the Tierlist.

[hollow creek]

Like they do have nice palettes

[molten latch]

Indeed

[hollow creek]

But the body types are the exact same

I think that’s what everyone’s issue is

[molten latch]

Honestly, Kartana, Stakataka, Nihilego and Blacephalon should be 2 or higher.

Nihilego is good for Lillie Look-a-Like fusions

Head wise

[hollow creek]

Stak is a 3 for me

[molten latch]

Indeed

I love bricks

Its fun

[hollow creek]

Bricks and the body fusions can be special bricks

[molten latch]

Or Lego

Because we never have Lego fusions

(Nihilego not intended)

[dim sparrow]

or if they only added uxie

yeah stakataka is cool

[molten latch]

Indeed

As for Blacephalon well

🤡

Honk Honk

Instead of the creepy Mr.Mime fusions again and again, why not a funny clown like Blacephalon.

[honest tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/xurkitree-gif-9674416

[dim sparrow]

Stakataka head fusions:

[molten latch]

[molten latch]

Xurkitree is not bad

[dim sparrow]

Silly walk

[molten latch]

Its just Rick Sanchez as a christmas tree wire.

[dim sparrow]

head fusions: cool wire design
body fusions: man made horrors beyond comprehension

[molten latch]

Which do you prefer

Diancie or Magearna

[rugged temple]

Maybe an unpopular opinion but I've always dislike the creepy pasta Mr mime themes

And the pinsir ones too

IMO we should reclassify all creepy mrmime fusions as joke fusions

[molten latch]

yeah, but I wanted to see more funny than creepy. Thats why Blacephalon would be perfect.

Tho creepy can be relevant but I think funnt clown is better than creepy clown NGL.

Like the Classic Pennywise.

[next flare]

Faceless tentacle monsters

[rain locust]

diancie bc mag just leans into setup mons

[molten latch]

True

[weak trellis]

lickilicky?

[ashen cloud]

if they added all ultra beast i would die

buzzwole

my daddy

guzzlord

my mommy

pheramosa my gf

kartana my bf

[molten latch]

Does the Meltan line count as Gen 7 or 8?

[visual igloo]

is there a new mon fusion out?

i think meltan is gen 7

[velvet root]

Like if jangmo-o line has new fusions or general fusions of mons that arent in PIF yet

[visual igloo]

idk

i/m new

[velvet root]

oh so welcome

We got a announcement that Jangmo-o won the voting so his line got a handfull fusions already

like the 2 I made

[visual igloo]

thats cool

i like heracross

[velvet root]

But many made fusions for Pokemon that are not in the game yet

[visual igloo]

are there gen 8 and 9mons?

[velvet root]

No rn they are said to not get into Infinite fusion cuz of programming issues
But if a friend of mine talks with the forgman we maybe have a chance

[visual igloo]

also when can you triple fuse?

[rugged temple]

I'd love to see smoliv in the game but no

[bitter comet]

End game

[molten latch]

Here's my new and improved tierlist.

[silk narwhal]

In case you don't know, Frogman is the main developer of the game

[velvet root]

Post game

[rugged temple]

After you beat the triple legendary I think

[visual igloo]

ty

[bitter comet]

I thought it was after you beat the elite four and Champion

[velvet root]

I think for it you have to catch the Unova trio Reshiram,Zekrom and Kyurem

[cobalt quartz]

Do you have a link to that tiermaker :0

[velvet root]

it is

[visual igloo]

i just started and i also need help getting thru viridian forest a CARTeRPIE killed me team

[rugged temple]

Honestly, we might have a shot of getting a few of the newer gen pokemon in if we could get some help from the PokeRogue devs

[molten latch]

I do but idk where to post.

[cobalt quartz]

In here should be fine?

[rugged temple]

They have sprites for everything already and just need to be sure those pokemon can be coded in

[bitter comet]

Go to https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/412243367439761408 then

[velvet root]

For gameplay talk use the #playthrough-talk chat
Its okay if you say some stuff quick but its better to keep shit in theyr talks

[rugged temple]

*easier said than done

[visual igloo]

thx

[velvet root]

Pokerogue is a completly diffrent game even coding wise

The best shot we have rn is if my Friend talks to frogman and (probably) my friend does the annoying parts

[rugged temple]

Well, the sprites that are in PokeRogue could be useful if they fit the 288x288

[sweet horizon]

Blacephalon is a pog ultra beast

[velvet root]

Most sprites are free to use on the sides tagged in #1050404143807873157 and worst case frog could ask someone if they do a gen 9 sprite quick

we have many spriters here after all

[molten latch]

I may be bias but, I prefer funny clown over creepy clown like Mr.Mime.

[rugged temple]

The vote for UBs will basically come down to 4 options first I think. Blacephalon, guzzlord, buzzwole, and the cockroach

[molten latch]

Pheromosa?

[sweet horizon]

I like mr mime 👁👁

[rugged temple]

While I like stackataka and kartana, I figure those 4 are the most popular

[rugged temple]

Yeah I said the cockroach

[sweet horizon]

It might be bcz I've recently been getting into jesters and such

[molten latch]

Good for you, Idk if you're ok for silly clown fusion related to Blacephalon.

Over a creepy clown. . .

[sweet horizon]

Bith

Both

[molten latch]

Ok

[sweet horizon]

I like horror and also silly

And I can imagine some cool blacephalon fusions too

[dull adder]

I VOUCH FOR THE LITTLE GUYS

[rugged temple]

Yeah no sorry I just can't bring myself to give any "BUT WHAT IF IT WAS EVIL AND CREEPY CLOWN" design anything more than a 4/10

Smacks of babys first SCP design

[molten latch]

Yeah

[dull adder]

Who needs clowns when you have three little monkeys

[clear lichen]

Blacephalon is goober

[molten latch]

Again thats why Blacephalon is the counterpart of Mr.Mine

[clear lichen]

That's all I have to say

[molten latch]

Funny over Creepy

[rugged temple]

I love goober clown

[clear lichen]

You can interpret that however you want

[molten latch]

Yin and the Yang

[hollow creek]

Have you sent this to frog personally

[velvet root]

The Monkeys are fine

[molten latch]

Simisasepour.

[velvet root]

He knows from it
My friend will probably write him this month or so

Since Frogman said he is open to discuss about it

[clear lichen]

Though, what happens when the goober clown gets its hands on Magic Guard?

Perhaps one shouldn't think about that

[molten latch]

Well its gonna be Meta

[clear lichen]

Can't be meta if you get banned

[molten latch]

But idk about that

[velvet root]

But lets be honest
Skiddo line is the best option for the game

[molten latch]

True

[clear lichen]

I feel like Blacephalon is either gonna cause complete Magic Guard ban, ban of all the competent Magic Guard users, ban of itself or ban of Mind Blown

Though with how tiering works with signature moves

[molten latch]

Indeed

[clear lichen]

I'd dismiss the last one as a possibility

[velvet root]

• shinys are awesome

[molten latch]

Not bad

[clear lichen]

Tbf the Pokeathalon Council probably handles banning differently from Smogon

[molten latch]

Ye

[clear lichen]

So maybe Mind Blown would be banned and not Blacephalon

Who knows

I dont

[molten latch]

Ye

[hollow creek]

If we ever get to voting for a gen 8 mon, I’d feel like that’d almost be a waste because you know it would either be dragapult or MAYBE corviknight

[molten latch]

Blacephalon and Mr.Mine wouls be a good Buggy fusion

[velvet root]

both are awesome tbh

[proud lion]

Hattrenne

[clear lichen]

Time to vote 0 on every Pokemon except Frosmoth fr

[hollow creek]

I fully agree

[clear lichen]

(I'd actually really like Dragapult)

[hollow creek]

I would say just add the top 3 lines

[clear lichen]

(But moth comes first)

[hollow creek]

Of this hypothetical vote

[clear lichen]

Who knows? Maybe Frosmoth manages to be meta shaping with Ice Scales

Or maybe it sucks because it's a Frosmoth

[bitter comet]

Man what are some cool gen 9 mons that aren’t legendarys?

[molten latch]

My beloved

[bitter comet]

I can’t think of any

[hollow creek]

Frosmoth would be nice

[clear lichen]

I can think of a lot

But it's all opinion based

[hollow creek]

The kamen Rider cricket and rabsca

[molten latch]

Lokix

[hollow creek]

Yeah

[bitter comet]

Oh I thought of one. That one poison type that’s like a ring-tailed lemur or something

[hollow creek]

The paint monkey

[clear lichen]

If someone has a different opinion to mine I won't really want to argue about it

[outer matrix]

Ceruledge or armarouge would be cool for Gen 9 picks

[velvet root]

Want pictures or?

[hollow creek]

Grafaiai

[bitter comet]

Eh why not

[hollow creek]

Ceruledge yes, you can make it actually resemble a Pokémon

[clear lichen]

I really like the Gen 9 starters but I think only one that is popular among them is Skeledirge

[ember bear]

annihilape

[clear lichen]

Well, Meowscarada is popular for

Reasons

You know who you are

[hollow creek]

Oh the salt brick golem

[bitter comet]

My only experience with gen 9 Pokémon it’s like pokerogue, and I haven’t played in a while lol

[clear lichen]

Kingambit is cool but man I hate fighting it lol

[bitter comet]

Oh yeah, that thing would make cool fusions

[hollow creek]

Best gen 9s for IF are ceruledge, Lokix and rabsca for me

[clear lichen]

Idk what I'd nominate honestly

Also, I'd assume Paradoxes wouldn't be allowed to be voted on

Since yknow

UBs aren't either

[molten latch]

Idk

[outer matrix]

Tinkaton, palafin, tatsugiri and annihlape are also good picks as well

[hollow creek]

Having a new evo would be awkward because half of the bisharp sprites would evolve into autogens

Still cool tho

[clear lichen]

Palafin would be hard to code I'd imagine

And worthless without the ability

[hollow creek]

Palafin and finizen (I think it’s called that) are literally identical

[clear lichen]

Zero to Hero:

[hollow creek]

LITERALLY identical, minus the heart stamp

[bitter comet]

Cool thx

[outer matrix]

Some of the legends arceus Pokémon would be cool as well, like kleavor

[velvet root]

NGL Baxcaliburs big problem is how he stants and that he has a unpolished Model in the game

[bitter comet]

I feel like if gen 8+ Pokémon were added I feel like it would be top priority to add the new evos to already existing mons

[clear lichen]

Iron Valiant is already kind of a fusion

Would be fun to see though

[hollow creek]

Overqwil would be so fun

[velvet root]

Reminds me that I think the gen 8 fossils would be fun for fusions

[bitter comet]

Oh yeah, that guy I used him on my Arceus team

He was cool

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-arctozolt-angry-sneeze-gif-6554241218392480590

[hollow creek]

Pretty sure regional forms of Pokémon won’t be on the ballot for a long time

[outer matrix]

Considering how the gen8 fossils are already 2 different things fused already, it would be fusing them even further

[clear lichen]

I'm not a massive fan of them, but imo Clodsire>Quagsire

[velvet root]

I think we all should just fuse all pokemon as badly as the gen 8 ones are fused XD

[bitter comet]

Fusing the fossils with other gen 8 fossils would mean quadruple fusion

[rugged temple]

I love the quag/clod equally

[outer matrix]

And talking about regionals for a second: alolan sandshrew/palossand = an iglo?

[rugged temple]

[hot hamlet]

More like correcting a mistake by splitting them into fossil A and B again, then attaching A to a new body, or B to a new head

[eager quarry]

That's the point
It's a clark kent disguise

Hiding the heart of a hero

Idk i guess people would just sprite the hero one

[hot hamlet]

Freaking finally!
Now we just need the mon

[eager quarry]

Actually i just remembered most wishiwashi sprite discussion assumes schooling form
So yeah people would just draw the hero one

[trail hull]

speed spriter results are out

so soon we will get a vote reveal

[proud lion]

All we need is the Concept Art and then we all pray for the Slurpuffening

Or the Carbinkening sweep

[outer matrix]

Double fusion would be correcting the fossils?

[hot hamlet]

A male in the Gerudo language?

[trail hull]

yes

[hot hamlet]

Double fusion would be compounding the problem

[trail hull]

I only missed the t

also the gala fossils would be a pain as head mons and even more witheach others

[hot hamlet]

But Arctazolt body and whatever the electric Dino one is would make a full zolt again

[hot hamlet]

Already said my piece. Very clean cuts for head and body on the fossils themselves, then you just paste them onto whichever half of the corresponding mon you need goes

Much like the actual fossils!

[trail hull]

that should be discussed with sprite manager

especially since that means arctozolt and dracozolt fusion would be the same (same thing or artcovish and dracovish)

[stuck bane]

Ummmmm

[hot hamlet]

Yeah only problem I can run into is the mons themselves only have half a name.
Draco-
-zolt
-vich
And Arcto-

[stuck bane]

You know it’s another double winner right? Datorre picked Slurpuff so it’s gonna be Slurpuff again

[hot hamlet]

I do not know. I got the ping and said that

Also

[stuck bane]

Slurpuff also gets double votes to start with, this is gonna be an interesting finale

[molten loom]

So wait we got 2 people that both won 2 contests/tournaments

[stuck bane]

Correct

[hot hamlet]

What do you mean “to start with”?

[stuck bane]

Ok, bit complicated, double winners have to be able to vote for their own or they’ll be at an inherent disadvantage compared to everyone else

[hot hamlet]

Fair enough

[molten loom]

They could also pick something else possibly, unless they don't get to

[trail hull]

I love that the name are the opposite f our fusion convention the body name is first and the head name is last

[hot hamlet]

Since we already went over why that’s a seemingly poor decision but can’t hanger rules after that ruling

[stuck bane]

So, if datorre only won 1 contest, the intent is that 12 other people would give their rankings on Slurpuff, since datorre himself is one of those people, he has to be able to vote slurpuff so it gets an automatic 3, a slight advantage over a disadvantage

[trail hull]

so arctosaur (artoczolt + bulbasaur ) would not have ice type

[hot hamlet]

No it would not

[molten loom]

Ok they're going slurpuff again

[hot hamlet]

Rocks first

[stuck bane]

Possibly, but if he’s running team Slurpuff idk why he wouldn’t take the automatic 3

My point proven

[hot hamlet]

So now we have a contender against Carbink for “most likely”

[molten loom]

Watch the winner of the concept art pick monkeys for the lols

[trail hull]

I'm gonna start making fusions for the possible mons in advance so if one win I can immediately put them in the gallery

[hot hamlet]

Concept art is the last change for a 3 stage mon to enter the contest

[trail hull]

last yeart we were one vote away from getting the wurmple line so I hope npt

[stuck bane]

Eh, I still think goliso has the best odds overall, but starting with automatic 3s could make a surprise victory if there’s a coup where multiple people are voting against goliso in order for their pick to have a chance of getting in

But right now, goliso is so appealing to both sides and is in a really good spot because of dex entry winner

[coarse karma]

does anyone have the list of the final results, I wanna see what all placed in the top 10 behind the Hakamo-o line.

[molten loom]

Watch goliso get second again

[stuck bane]

See pins, we only got top 5

[coarse karma]

ty! :D

[molten loom]

And bottom 5

[stuck bane]

I’m shocked at no hoenn though

[trail hull]

apparently these (also in the pins ) are the lowest , I'm happy luvdisc got that high tbh

[hot hamlet]

Oh look. Some Gen 3

[trail hull]

[stuck bane]

It’s still a crime that luvdisc is that high but general population isn’t known for critical thinking much anyways (kommo )

[hot hamlet]

It beat Alo by 1%

Not even! .5%

[stuck bane]

Not even, more like half a percent

[civic rapids]

Oh wow, so does that mean we getting Kom-moo-o next big update?

[trail hull]

yes

[civic rapids]

sweet

[stuck bane]

Yes, in addition to at least 1 more line

[hot hamlet]

Guaranteed, just waiting on the second getting in via contest votes

[outer matrix]

but there's definitely more in the next update considering how it's going to release in a few months, right? (besides character customization)

[hot hamlet]

Sooner

[stuck bane]

So there’s only like 10-11 options this vote is gonna be very cut throat

[stuck bane]

Where’d you hear that?

[coarse karma]

where did spheal place? near the top 15 again?
or was it really low this time around. Also ooo I love all these top 6 mons, the PIF community has taste lmao.

[trail hull]

apparently frog is ready to release the update and just waiting for the new mons

[hot hamlet]

Frog stated the update is pretty much ready and is just waiting on the mons

[civic rapids]

Always loved its design, it was just found too late in Gen 7 for me to add it to team. Already had me a fighting type by that point

[proud lion]

The monkeys ain’t on there. As balance it should be

[stuck bane]

O

[hot hamlet]

He’s had all weekend to work on Kommo-o

[stuck bane]

Yeah that’s what I thought I thought it would be sooner over a couple of months

[trail hull]

oh wait that means peopel actually wanted the monkey

[stuck bane]

Mmmmm… monke

[proud lion]

I voted 3 for them

[stuck bane]

Triple fusions hard carry man

It’s how we got Regis

[deft obsidian]

Why panpour is so good? And other are meh

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/regice-regirock-registeel-regi-pokemon-regigigas-gif-17473837537500703308

[proud lion]

How would they evolve though? Given they need 3 stone

[stuck bane]

Probably because panpour is water tbh

[hot hamlet]

Straight from the Frog’s mouth!🤘#pif-hoenn-discussion message

[hot hamlet]

Why is ice a png plush?

[molten loom]

[weak trellis]

cuz it's funny to portray the sharpest member as the softest material?

[coarse karma]

funny enough I voted Volbeat a 2 this time when I voted 0 last year. mostly cause of a few volbeat head fusions I saw earlier in the year.

let's say i was swayed lol.

[hot hamlet]

You know, that isn’t too bad… 1

[coarse karma]

my same thought atthe time lol

[hot hamlet]

Maybe if we had proof like this during the votes my opinions would have changed!

Like how I got onboard with Slurpuff

[stuck bane]

I was on board with Slurpuff ever since I learned it’s one of the few fairy type heads we can get, dessert fusions only solidified this placement

[coarse karma]

I forgot to send it cause I'm always quiet about my votes lol. I think the only two votes I shared was swirlix & spheal lol.

[hot hamlet]

Hey. Those Swirlix swayed me!
Maybe you should have shared more

[coarse karma]

maybe I should be more forthcoming about my votes lol

[clear lichen]

I didn't even know Slurpuff was popular when I was talking about how funny it is to suicide lead with it in Gen 8 Ubers

Didn't I say it as an unpopular pick when talking about it?

That aged well

[stuck bane]

In regular Pokémon, yeah Slurpuff Aromatisse are mid

In fusions, a lotta potential

[hot hamlet]

Right Tauros is weird

[coarse karma]

I agree

[spice sage]

||#6||

[coarse karma]

thank you! :D

tied with vikavolt

[spice sage]

Nah vikavolt was 5

[coarse karma]

ah oki

[stuck bane]

I think vika would’ve still been ahead a bit, but yeah hoenn is still up there, just not top 5

So between main and spriter still some overlap but mostly big differences

[hot hamlet]

Gen 7 was a gateway for a lot of newcomers, so I can accept them being more popular among newer audiences.
Also the poke designs are like the only thing I really like from Alola

[trail hull]

tht's surprising

[coarse karma]

this is the only other existing volbeat fusion cause volbeat isn't that popular. basically it was just the "ok" stantler one that swayed me, I knew it wouldnt get vry high in the poll but I wanted to give it a lil love on votes lol.

[stuck bane]

Like, only overlap was goliso and spheal (unless frog was trolling)

[trail hull]

how high did gogoat rank?

[hot hamlet]

What is it?

[coarse karma]

I hear gogoat talked about so much that I can see it in like 8th place

[stuck bane]

Considering this is general populous, probably not high

[coarse karma]

idek i'll go see

[stuck bane]

Don’t bet on it, most general voters aren’t in this server (link shared everywhere)

[trail hull]

gogoat was talked as much as spheal I think so I thnk it might be in the top 10

[coarse karma]

Delphox

[molten loom]

Wimpod & Golispod love 2nd place

[trail hull]

don't worry next year they'll get in

[hot hamlet]

Ah

[molten loom]

They get in 2nd again next year /s

[stuck bane]

Don’t bet on it, most general voters aren’t in this server (link shared everywhere)

Aka: like, 1% of main voters read this channel

It’s why kommo still won as we predicted (or at least me, everyone in this server being shocked at kommo clearly doesn’t read this channel)

[hot hamlet]

If not we may lose Zerocipher

[coarse karma]

It's so wild to me how much popular opinions have changed between this august and last september lol.

[trail hull]

kommo should have won last year spriter's vote so it was msot likely

[trail hull]

also th fact that a lot of the cool mons got in

[velvet root]

Boring tbh

[stuck bane]

I don’t think so, spriters are basically their own little sub community, and this is a spriter vs main vote, as far as we know nothing opinionated has changed (kommo was proof of this)

[coarse karma]

I find it funny spheal has stayed in the same general spot tho, 5th and 6th aint that bad esp when everything else around it changed.

[trail hull]

if every cool mon got in , peopel gonan pick the coolest in the less cool mons

[velvet root]

I do a double backflip from a bridge for you all

[stuck bane]

Me when the winners of the special vote use optimal strats to try and stand a fighting chance against Golisopod:

[molten loom]

In to water right?

[velvet root]

kinda

[trail hull]

spheal is a cute ball so it makes sense you want that cute thignss but now that most dragons are in they are cooler options

[molten loom]

Glances at rule 3

[hot hamlet]

Gogoat/Miltank should be a package of Goat Cheese with a Gogoat on the lid

[clear lichen]

Jumping off a bridge is illegal (no not just in the sense that it's not allowed to talk about in this server)

Suicide is typically illegal

[coarse karma]

give me my speal stand in. Swlirx is just as round just fluffier lol.

[trail hull]

I think to predict the vote there are too main factor , if it's cool and string that's what the silent part think likes probably

[hot hamlet]

With a. High enough bridge even water would feel like concrete, so doesn’t matter

[molten loom]

True

[velvet root]

O never said I die doing it

[clear lichen]

You'd probably still be arrested for doing so

[velvet root]

Reminds me someone made a Miltank/Gogoat

[clear lichen]

Under the suspicion of suicide

[velvet root]

I show them a Triple Backflip and they let me go out of respect

[hot hamlet]

Bungee jump

Then it’s official

[trail hull]

talking about things less morbid it seems like the most amount of slot it gonna take currently is 2

[clear lichen]

Something something server rules

[bitter comet]

Only one more contest result to go

[hot hamlet]

Eclair centipede

[bitter comet]

They all look so delicious

[coarse karma]

@velvet root your sprite is loved.

[hot hamlet]

I NEVER SAW THAT MAGIKARP!

[trail hull]

waiting for the amphibians to reveal it

[weak trellis]

I would love those as miltank alts if we don't get slurp (though magikarp/slurp might be better on wigglytuff)

[velvet root]

Found the Goat

[weak trellis]

ROFL speaking of good miltanks

[velvet root]

I deleted it cuz I completly missed my intention and hated it XD
Someone told me I should have made it a eclair

[hot hamlet]

Where’s that petting emote editor?

[velvet root]

But I made those slurs

[hot hamlet]

I’m someone. Sorry

[velvet root]

[coarse karma]

honestly I think it looks perfect!! ignore stray haters.

[hot hamlet]

I wasn’t hating!

[hot hamlet]

It reminded me of an eclair

[coarse karma]

oh no not u, they meant someone in a thread

[hot hamlet]

So that’s what I said

[hot hamlet]

No, I was the one that made him delete it

[velvet root]

I think it was J tbh XD

[hot hamlet]

But it was an observation out of love for the Sprite

[coarse karma]

OOH, eh, if u werent hating and just saying it'd look better as an eclair then I c.

[velvet root]

When im already unsure about a Sprite im pretty likely to delete it when I get a bad comment XD
That one is a example and he wont see the light of PIF ever

[marble meadow]

well i though malamar is very popular but no matter what will win the event mon list are good picks whoever it will be from that list

[coarse karma]

the three rockruff miltanks

[trail hull]

I wish we could have alcremie it's cool and has a lot of color variants

[outer matrix]

Agreed

[hot hamlet]

IT WASNT MEANT AS A HATE COMMENT!
I just said you should make an eclair as an alt
The original was still amazing

[marble meadow]

but hey if slurpuff gets in we get candy/sweets fusions

[noble spade]

Vote scrafty because if you fuse it with shedniga you get a dark ghost wonder guard monster. And if they do have a fairy scrafty learns fake out

[coarse karma]

omglob love that lanturn!

[bitter comet]

Man, we love slurs here

[trail hull]

the earign and the cake art form the gmax form could be incorporated in the fusion to create some nicevariety

[velvet root]

Oh I know i know
But as I said a comment can make me hate a sprite randomly
Its a me problem not a you problem there

[trail hull]

the vote is over

[marble meadow]

heck if u even more creative different candy with slurpuff fusions or something more

[outer matrix]

contest winner vote is just left

[rain locust]

outclassed by sableye shedinja

[coarse karma]

me with my mech suit pikachu/genesect. #1080232013631606834 message made them b4 I made a different and better fusion for my spriter role.
Got some negative feedback in spriter general.

[trail hull]

while slurpuff and alcremie can do the same thing they can also diverge enough to be different

[civic rapids]

lol at the sandile

[velvet root]

My first fusion with some kind of sweets wasnt even slurpuff XD

[civic rapids]

looks funny

[bitter comet]

Mint chocolate chip

[velvet root]

The horn is a spoon and the cookie is a oreo

[trail hull]

very creative

[velvet root]

thx

[marble meadow]

well for the vanilluxe line i was just thinking of different ice cream flavors

[velvet root]

Talking about goats and food
I somehow fell in love with goat cheese
Its creamy and tastes awesome

[trail hull]

all of those sweet fusions are makign me hungry

[trail hull]

goat cheese is the best

even in burgers

[marble meadow]

but i wonder what mon would fuse into mochi

[trail hull]

🤤

[trail hull]

pecharunt whole deal is to give mochis so maybe

unless you're talkign about mons that can join pif

[marble meadow]

a fusion of mons in if

or those who get added

[velvet root]

Btw I made a base for a fusion I plan

The fusion is non if

[trail hull]

you could get that if you fidn a good dessert mon to fuse with sandygast

[marble meadow]

oh better that one candy castle from cuphead

and from the amayzing digital circuz could have the candy princess as afusion ref

[molten loom]

[twilit cave]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

[hot hamlet]

THE HELL??

[twilit cave]

I KNEW THEY COULD DO IT

[dim sparrow]

slurpuff or fomantis line may win
i just realized if slurpuff wins it def needs a custom palette

[molten loom]

Did not expect that

[twilit cave]

FUCK YEAH PLUSLE/MINUN CLEARS

[sleek hornet]

Huh interesting :3

[elfin forge]

Worst ones yet imo

[sleek hornet]

But they won’t get picked in the final vote T-T

They will be out voted by the other popular ones like Golisopod

[proud lion]

Had to be at least one dud option for the funny

[sleek hornet]

Indeed :3

[velvet root]

Thats the plan

[twilit cave]

Judging how he got 2nd

Eh

[elfin forge]

Only 5 of these haven't been duds

[sleek hornet]

At least people’s choices are a lot easier XD

[eager quarry]

Tbh i wouldve put pansear on there
Because scrafty is already on the poll

[velvet root]

Ngl I like it more that way than DaTorre choosing Slurpuff again

[sleek hornet]

I wish it was carbink again ngl xD

[eager quarry]

So i wouldnt steal votes from the one i want

[twilit cave]

My goat

[elfin forge]

Can't wait for the next mon to be Vivillon /hj

[sleek hornet]

Or Freaking Wurmple XD

[elfin forge]

Wurmple would be better

[sleek hornet]

Indeed

[eager quarry]

Waiting to see people try and distinguish silcoon and cascoon bodies

[glass patio]

plusle minun…

[zealous lichen]

yeah I dont want to do that lol

[sleek hornet]

My brain would hurt trying XD

[agile sun]

https://tenor.com/view/minun-plusle-pokemon-gif-5853253

[eager quarry]

Plusle and minun are my new third place wish because it's the funniest possible outcome after all the kommo-o discourse

[sleek hornet]

Of course! :3

I do like them ngl, Some of my fav pika clones

[outer matrix]

Now it's time to wait until the concept contest results are done for the final winner vote Pokémon to be decided

[zealous lichen]

lol it would be great and having some weaker mons is great

[sleek hornet]

Indeed

[elfin forge]

Isn't the mon picked randomly?

[zealous lichen]

I think so

[eager quarry]

The winners all vote on it

[zealous lichen]

ohh

[eager quarry]

And im pretty sure they cant vote their own picks

[sleek hornet]

Get the weaker ones over with and let the strong bois take over in who knows when the next sprite vote is. XD

[zealous lichen]

yeah because when they put theirs in they already get a vote

[twilit cave]

I just dont want golisipod

It would be broing

[zealous lichen]

how so?

[twilit cave]

For top 2 votes to get in

[glass patio]

it’s too boring like they’re just two different colored pikachus…

but thats just my opinion

[twilit cave]

At least carbink

[elfin forge]

I was literally just going to say "Wouldn't they just vote the same one they picked prior?"

[sleek hornet]

I say we should get the “boring” over with And let the fun ones take over in the next vote. :3

I’m in this getting it over with mindset

[zealous lichen]

I guess but I feel like having them in will add just a bit of variety

[trail hull]

Unexpected

[sleek hornet]

Samurai bug!

[elfin forge]

I'm not gonna complain too much on who wins unless it's Plusle/Minun or the Morelull line

[sleek hornet]

Same

[molten loom]

Ok hear me out, Pikachu + plusle +Minun triple fuse

[eager quarry]

Pompom already exists for cheerleading stuff so yea plusle and minun im only rooting on to troll

[elfin forge]

I'll be genuinely angry if those or Carbink get it

[molten loom]

Or mimikyu instead of pikachu

[zealous lichen]

I actually really want the Morelull line added

[elfin forge]

We have enough mushrooms

[glass patio]

i’m not gonna complain unless it’s not minior /j

[sleek hornet]

Would LOVE mimikyu! :3

[zealous lichen]

we have 1 line

[elfin forge]

Mimikyu's already in

[velvet root]

Time to make a sprite for 2 rodents...

[glass patio]

i’d love shedinja it’s my fav mon

[molten loom]

A pikaclone triple fuse

[glass patio]

i hope it gets added someday

[zealous lichen]

its already in the game

[sleek hornet]

Oh whoops, rephrase! Playing along with the joke, they was talking about mimikyu in terms of the triple fusion? If I understand correctly.

[molten loom]

And it's just a pikachu

[glass patio]

what!?!?!?!

[trail hull]

If they win we only need to do body sprites for one of these and then just change the file name for the other

[zealous lichen]

I might be thinking of something else

[glass patio]

ok i wasnt being serious but ig it wasnt that obvious for u…

[sleek hornet]

Don’t worry Ik it’s in. I was just replying to their fusion idea :3 (if that’s what they meant?)

[zealous lichen]

no I am right its in the game already

[glass patio]

…

like

i meant i alr knew that

but i was just joking

[zealous lichen]

I dont understand sarcasam im sorry

yay the Tism

[glass patio]

it’s ok ig it wasn’t that obvious in the way i said it

[sleek hornet]

Yeah like how I was joking as well. XD

[trail hull]

I love how everyone choosed lines that only contains 2 mons at most

[marble meadow]

you know it,s intressting there only a few mushroom pokemons

[sleek hornet]

Same

[elfin forge]

We have the Paras and Shroomish lines

[zealous lichen]

oh fair enough

[elfin forge]

we have 4 mushroom mons already

[sleek hornet]

True dat

[elfin forge]

that's enough imo

[zealous lichen]

I was more thinking that another fairy type would be neat

[sleek hornet]

Same

We need more fairy

Heads

[elfin forge]

Cutiefly would be better for that tbh

[snow scroll]

carbinksweep

[elfin forge]

god no please

[snow scroll]

whoever has the last vote

know that you have the power to force a stalemate

[eager quarry]

THE BINKSTER

[marble meadow]

there is morelul parasect breloom amonguus and thoug it dont gets in if it toedscool or am i missing one

[glass patio]

i like slurpuff for fusions

[sleek hornet]

No more body’s (plz don’t take it out of context) XD

[molten loom]

What did Amoonguss place?

[snow scroll]

AMONG US??

im sorry

[sleek hornet]

We need more fairy heads! :3

[eager quarry]

Youve got all them
They do one every odd gen

[zealous lichen]

I wouldnt mind Carbink it has some good fusion potential

[molten loom]

I'm curious

[eager quarry]

Well plus brute bonnet

Oops

[elfin forge]

Yeah Slurpuff would be great too

[glass patio]

yeah carbink is funny i also wouldnt mind

[deft obsidian]

Aw come on, pluse

[sleek hornet]

Maybe with its head…not sure about its body imo. 🤔

But it could be funny

:3

[glass patio]

body small fellas

[trail hull]

Im fine with any choices some would make me happier but I’m in good terms with all the mons

[glass patio]

because yes

[zealous lichen]

a dopy little floating body? toatally a ton of choices

[zealous lichen]

did you win any of the contests?

[glass patio]

floating body? no way it’s just like minior

[sleek hornet]

Pointy rock, POINT pointy rock, and Pointy Point point Rock :3

Ah yes!

The possibilities XD

[eager quarry]

I think it would be fun drawing small crystal bodies
I have an exact plan for milotic carbink to appease the humble showdown users

[zealous lichen]

because of this I wouldnt be surprised if it ended up being one of the pain sprites

[molten loom]

So I can know what percentage of the server can be disowned /s

[sleek hornet]

It would be adorable and funny! :3

[glass patio]

they’re both small funny floating rock fellas

[sleek hornet]

Yeah they are!

Slay Carbink!

Slay Queen!

[zealous lichen]

I think Formantis line would be cool too

[sleek hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/carbink-gif-25570509

Yeah do that spin!

[glass patio]

https://tenor.com/view/my-beloved-pokemon-cards-minior-gif-14976180901120106529

[sleek hornet]

Same

https://tenor.com/view/did-you-just-mention-the-774th-pokemon-from-gen-7-minior-pokemon-alola-generation-7-gif-16750175270661220119

[glass patio]

…

[sleek hornet]

Mini or Fusions would be SO SICK

[glass patio]

i made that lol

[sleek hornet]

Woah, that’s cool XD

[zealous lichen]

the main one I dont want to see is the Wingull line I just done care for them

[sleek hornet]

But dat drizzle dough? T-T (joking terms)

[clear lichen]

I still don't know why red core is hot pink and why indigo core is blue

[zealous lichen]

so my only concernt with this mon is the gimmick it has and teh cracked shell

[marble meadow]

im not complaining but suprised about malamar

[glass patio]

my fav one aside from the shiny is blue core

[sleek hornet]

same cause blue is one of my favorite colors

As well as purple

:3

[zealous lichen]

I love malamar its a top ten pokemon for me

[agile sun]

agreed!

next time u can win and choose minior ^^

[glass patio]

how could i possibly win…

[marble meadow]

and i think personaly i see potential in minior and malamar

[jade canyon]

i hate plussle and minun so much

but oh well

[zealous lichen]

dont know if you dont try

[clear lichen]

Ngl that feels mildly disrespectful towards Minior

But I could be imagining things

[agile sun]

no

its cuz they have minior on their name

so its probably their pick

[velvet root]

[glass patio]

my sprites arent anything amazing plus i havent sprited since march

[warm skiff]

i want plusle and minun to win just because i want to see what spriters do with it

[molten loom]

I imagine a few math jokes

[agile sun]

works!

[zealous lichen]

lol I know the feeling im a pretty meh spriter my self

[ember bear]

pikachu but red and blue

[sleek hornet]

Oh fs!

[clear lichen]

Idk if someone mentions a Pokemon being just 2 different coloured versions of each other then someone mentions a Pokemon which has varients that are just colour differences

My mind instantly thinks they're trying to pick a fight

Maybe I've spent too long on the Internet ngl

[zealous lichen]

this is my best one and I had some help with the fire color choice

[glass patio]

…

[glass patio]

it was just a coincidence

[clear lichen]

When my first thought is people arguing

[marble meadow]

or just one base colour for minior and some colour variations for fusions

[glass patio]

that looks cool

[molten loom]

Nah just make every sprite with it a rainbow

[sleek hornet]

because the obviously boring ones are pluses and minun and the fun ones are Minior and Golisopod, and Carbink, there’s only so much to do with plus and minus.

[glass patio]

this is my best one

[clear lichen]

Plusle and Minun are more visually interesting than Pikachu solely because they're a pair

[warm skiff]

tbh i feel like golisopod has a lot less potential than people think it does

[zealous lichen]

you actually did a really good job with shading making a round ball is actually a bit difficult

[clear lichen]

That said, light orb shenanigans sound funny

[sleek hornet]

True, definitely agree with that though. :3

[velvet root]

Nah it does have a lot

[clear lichen]

Would it be worth the stat sacrifice?

Idk

But it'd be funny

[velvet root]

As head
Yes

[trail hull]

Congrats for winning your sprite was so so good

[warm skiff]

I haven;t even seen like a golisopod fusion other than with scolipede I think

[glass patio]

recoloring electrode yellow and removing the face is not difficult

[velvet root]

Btw I only need one more mon

[glass patio]

ok idk which one i’d pick for my best sprite

[zealous lichen]

which one are you thinking?

[clear lichen]

If you can rival Mega Rayquaza in power but you're well known as a ZU shitmon that may be a sign that you're bad

[velvet root]

I only have those but there are a lot more

and these

[trail hull]

Sudowoodo body for shinotic

[velvet root]

Need something for Shinotic

[clear lichen]

Favouritism cannot save a Pokemon with similar stats to a 1st form starter from irrelevancy evidently

[sleek hornet]

Yeah I’ve seen a good amount, they’re pretty cool, just gotta look. :3

[glass patio]

but i made some miniors tho

[zealous lichen]

@velvet root man you make the rest of us look like amaturs lol

[bitter comet]

Only one more contest to go

[clear lichen]

I'll stop trash talking Pikachu now I just felt like laughing at it for being bad

[velvet root]

Why

[zealous lichen]

so my main concern with this is what happens when their shell breaks that means we need a tone of fusions

[warm skiff]

also gonna toss in a pipebomb here
would latias and latios be similar to plustle and minun in that they just end up having similar bodies?

[zealous lichen]

you're so freaking good!!!

[clear lichen]

They're already in the game so idk how this matters

[velvet root]

Cuz I make a sprite for every mon in the event winner thing?

[snow scroll]

that groudon fusion looks amazing

[velvet root]

thanks

[clear lichen]

That said, people like Latios and Latias a lot more than they do Plusle and Minun

[snow scroll]

I LOVE the omega motifs on its armor

[clear lichen]

I am people

That's me

[sleek hornet]

So cool! :3

[glass patio]

there’s some pokemon with forms like necrozma which changes form during battle

[molten loom]

Never could have guessed with that pfp

[clear lichen]

Ikr?

[humble lance]

nya

[zealous lichen]

I love the Lurantis/Mawile fusion

[glass patio]

they should add luxio to the game

[humble lance]

they should

[glass patio]

i said this before and i still think that

[humble lance]

luxio for pif when

[sleek hornet]

Yeah they really should :3

Luxio me boi

As well as Luxray!

xD

[velvet root]

Btw that challenge is another thing why the double carbink annoyed me

[clear lichen]

Before I say this, I must add

[glass patio]

they should add luxio alone

[clear lichen]

Overrated does not mean bad

[humble lance]

luxio would be so cool look at these fusions with it

[clear lichen]

Something can be overrated and still be great

That said, imo Luxray is a bit overrated

[glass patio]

I like the one that’s fused with luxio

[sleek hornet]

They all look so cool!

[zealous lichen]

its got one the best abilities in the game but thats it

[clear lichen]

I wasn't talking competitive

[analog stag]

Plusle and Minun based

[clear lichen]

If I was I'd just straight up say Luxray is dogshit

[analog stag]

https://tenor.com/view/minun-plusle-pokemon-gif-5853253

[velvet root]

Imagine doing atleast 1 luxio fusion

[humble lance]

luxio > luxray

[sleek hornet]

Luxray is aesthetically overrated, and I still love him because he cool. But they did him SO dirty competitively!

[clear lichen]

Physical electric types as a whole struggle a shitton

When your best move is like

What, a Take Down clone?

[glass patio]

idk i just think luxray looks cool

[clear lichen]

Or a fucking Jump Kick clone

[bitter comet]

I weirdly feel called out since he is one of my favorite electric types lol

[clear lichen]

You won't succeed in Competitive

[zealous lichen]

yeah they need to add more

[clear lichen]

And Luxray doesn't even have good stats to begin with

[velvet root]

MAAAN why is that stupid mushroom so weird
I get 0 ideas

[sleek hornet]

Same besides Eelektross

[clear lichen]

But yeah it's pretty cool

Do think it's a bit overrated

[deft obsidian]

Luxray is best pokemon
Edgy design, actually looks cool, can be cute, you use it in your playthrough. It's weak af but you still use it.

[clear lichen]

But overrated has never meant bad

[zealous lichen]

lol you should combine it with Hitmonchan for a wandering ronin boxer

[clear lichen]

The only people telling you otherwise are idiots on Reddit saying that Megalovania is bad because it is overrated

[velvet root]

And you saw one dieing in the anime

[bitter comet]

Fuse it with Parasect?

[glass patio]

i think it deserves the love it’s properly rated

[deft obsidian]

No but I saw meme about it

[bitter comet]

I feel like that could be cool

[clear lichen]

I mean ofc if it's one of your favourite Pokemon you'd think it's perfectly rated

[molten loom]

steal borrow some ideas from other sprites of it

[clear lichen]

That'd go back to opinionated things though

[sleek hornet]

Dare I say Overated is the best rated :3

[velvet root]

I saw the episode
Instead of it safing that Kid and bringing it to his parents it layed next to it and died XD

[deft obsidian]

I didn't knew pokemon can die in anime?

[clear lichen]

I should (not) rank every Pokemon based on how rated it is

(I've already spent many months trying to rank them)

[velvet root]

What sprites of it?
Isnt there only the umbrella sprite from ribbon ? XD

[clear lichen]

(I don't want to look at tiermaker for longer)

[bitter comet]

I fused him with that one manta ray Pokémon that I can’t remember the name of and I got A fusion named Manray

[glass patio]

how rated is shedinja

[zealous lichen]

I think the sadest one is the Stoutland death in Sun and Moon series

[glass patio]

i actually have no idea of what people think of shedinja

lol

[clear lichen]

It completely depends on if you're a casual or competitive player

If you're a casual player, I'd say I think it is underrated

[deft obsidian]

Damn, I didn't knew

[clear lichen]

If you're a competitive player, I'd say it is overrated

And underrated at the same time

[molten loom]

There are 8 Shiinotics in #1050404143807873157

[zealous lichen]

it was a fantastic couple of episodes

[clear lichen]

So uhh that balances out to overall underrated I guess

How did I fucking typo "uhh"

What is wrong with me

[glass patio]

shedinja just looks good it has dark pokedex entries and a unique method to obtain it plus a cool ability

[sleek hornet]

Yeah people think of Pokémon differently in the competitive spectrum.

[deft obsidian]

And they all looks good 😔

[sleek hornet]

Plus ghost shell! :3

[clear lichen]

I feel like rising popularity of nuzlockes have helped make it less underrated

[sleek hornet]

And Shedinja sounds ADORABLE

to me at least :/

[glass patio]

shedinja became my favorite pokemon a few months ago before i just made sprites of it because i liked it but i slowly started to like it more and more

[clear lichen]

Shedinja'a an interesting Pokemon in both design and community reception ngl

[sleek hornet]

Yeppers

I love me boi

One of my favorite bug types besides Volcarona

[glass patio]

https://tenor.com/view/shedinja-plush-spin-gif-11240635259558610356

[clear lichen]

There's definitely gonna be a tier that's just straight up "overhated"

[zealous lichen]

its good in the base game ones but stuggles in the hard ones

[clear lichen]

There are definitely a metric fuckton of Pokemon I'd say are overhated

[zealous lichen]

Bruxish

[sleek hornet]

Absolutely

(Dare I say aromatisse?)

[clear lichen]

Emboar, elemonkeys, Bruxish

[clear lichen]

That too

Oh and Meganium

Meganium is the one time I've seen casual fans hate a Pokemon for competitive reasons

[zealous lichen]

the monkeys I think are just boring more than anything but they are Hear See and Speak no evil

[deft obsidian]

Emboar is peak pokemon design

[clear lichen]

Why specifically Meganium, I have no clue

[sleek hornet]

Garbodor? (Oh wait it’s trash on purpose, even though it’s cool! )

It’s literally trash, but so good T-T

[glass patio]

garbodor is just trash bro

[clear lichen]

Weirdly I feel like a lot of people share that opinion

[glass patio]

and i like it for that

[clear lichen]

A lot of people hate it too though

So I'd put it in underrated