pif-hoenn-discussion

[sweet horizon]

Oh I also don't like unova or unova mons

[clear lichen]

A lot of sound moves have other types that make a lot of sense

[clear lichen]

So I disagree with that notion

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/johny-gif-27696534

[clear lichen]

People always bring up soundproof in those arguments

But I mean

There isn't a blade type

[stuck bane]

Bruh now you say that you could’ve led with that

[clear lichen]

And nobody argues for Leaf Blade to have its type changed

[rancid nymph]

I didn’t know Weavile was a Gen 5 Mon

[clear lichen]

So I see no issue

[sweet horizon]

Wait those are unova mons? I thought most of these were gen 3😭

[clear lichen]

💀

[rancid nymph]

Because LEAF blade makes perfect sense as a grass type move

[deft obsidian]

You can find fully evolved weavile in gaint chasm

[clear lichen]

And same for Bug Buzz with Bug

Grass Whistle for Grass

Ig you could argue Sparkling Aria? But I think Water fits it well and Fairy would be a 2nd choice

[sweet horizon]

Ok so I alrdy voted leavanny and gigalith pretty high I think lol

[deft obsidian]

Based

[clear lichen]

There are a lot of sound moves that are Normal type tbf

But there are also some that aren't

[stuck bane]

Your sins are forgiven

[clear lichen]

So would those types be their current ones? Or the Sound type?

That's the issue with a Sound type

[rancid nymph]

Yeah, Bug Buzz makes sense as a bug move, but there are plenty of sound based moves that are normal type that could be changed if they made a sound type

[clear lichen]

A lot of sound moves that aren't Normal type make sense as their types

[clear lichen]

And it's only the normal ones

And it wouldn't make sense for there to be a sound type

And have sound moves that aren't the sound type

[sweet horizon]

Just now voted jellicent higher (now 3) and lilligant higher too (now 2)

[thorny ferry]

chat is this a W or L tier list

[molten latch]

Gourdgeist my beloved

[hollow creek]

Turtonator in A is a huge W

[rancid nymph]

You also have punching and kicking moves that aren’t fighting type

[thorny ferry]

ikr

so much halloween potential

[molten latch]

Still quite upset that Spheal is below C but I think its not the end of the world.

[clear lichen]

Fighting is more about actual fighting styles than just a regular ass punch or kick, extending to moves that aren't literal punches or kicks

For example, throws

[sweet horizon]

L imo, W in some places like lumineon s tier and dragalge and musharna in b

[thorny ferry]

it's just not unique enough imo

[clear lichen]

If Fighting was only about punching and kicking

[sweet horizon]

Round

[thorny ferry]

lumineon is so underrated

[clear lichen]

And called idk the "punchkick" type

[hollow creek]

Scrafty in D is surprising

[clear lichen]

Then yknow what fair

[twin phoenix]

Well, it's your own tier list and I respect it. We have both agreements and disagreements is all.

[sweet horizon]

Real😭

It's one of my dad's fav mons

[thorny ferry]

based

[clear lichen]

Some of these I agree with and some of these I don't, to be expected

[sweet horizon]

It's not one of my favs but it's pretty good, a tier imo

[thorny ferry]

it's just not unique enough imo

[sweet horizon]

How tf is the pants lizard not unique enough

[proud lion]

The monkeys should be in SS rank.

[sweet horizon]

Especially Ambipom

[thorny ferry]

I mean, it certainly brings something new, but not new enough

[fathom ridge]

W, vikavolt is high

[sweet horizon]

Wait u mean the 3 uglies

[thorny ferry]

my bad guys

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/simisear-saturday-simisear-gif-23454367

[rain locust]

pod and bink in a thats p good

[sweet horizon]

Me

[rugged temple]

Claydol in C

You're dead to me

[proud lion]

Y e s

[thorny ferry]

oops

it's B to me

[fathom ridge]

Completely reasonable reaction

[thorny ferry]

idk why I put it there

[molten latch]

Variety over Style Aye? NGL Simipour is my favorite.

[hollow creek]

Lemme find my tier list

[thorny ferry]

all of them are equally good

[hot hamlet]

Saw that latest second vote pick a mile away

[rain locust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1276604378899550300/image0.jpg?ex=66ccc4fa&is=66cb737a&hm=ad12cc11d1274ce6e7e98c30dfa6a1481a9d766bff06aa3ba04c58a0f3033412&

[fathom ridge]

What if the monkeys got a cool evolution in legends ZA

[rugged temple]

Not even high C, it's in the middle of the middle

[hollow creek]

I put in ultra beasts to use for future votes

[thorny ferry]

breaks my heart to see luvdisc so low in every list 💔 (pun not intended)

[rugged temple]

Respectable dol placement

[twin phoenix]

I see Medicham at the top, I approve.

[rain locust]

maybe luvdisc shouldve gotten good

[rugged temple]

Id be more interested in megas for X/Y legendaries

Which are basically required

[rancid nymph]

Luvdisc is garbage, and yes your pun was intended

[rain locust]

you wont approve when broken means it swings all the way down to the bottom at f

[fathom ridge]

How could you put the car battery and the railgun Beatle in bad

[rugged temple]

Luvdisc simply needs an evo now

[thorny ferry]

valentine's day themed fusions would be amazing

and I swear it was not intended

[proud lion]

I see Quote won the emoji contest. Since Slurpuff is already on and it’s in their nickname, would they bring in the Spritzee line as well?

[hollow creek]

but vika is in 3

[proud lion]

Could you see Spritzee line fusion potential?

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-elf-buddy-the-elf-throne-of-lies-christmas-gif-3580667

[unkempt stone]

I think it’s mainly just Luvdisk isn’t that interesting in potential, at least from what I can see

[hollow creek]

respectfully please god no

[rugged temple]

No please no

[molten latch]

[fathom ridge]

Ah wait I answered to the wrong list my bad

[thorny ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[fathom ridge]

This is the one

[molten latch]

New emote just dropped

[rain locust]

free quagless

[twin phoenix]

My blind bum sees legends but can't find the Swords of Justice.

[unkempt stone]

I love to see people advocate for their vote though

So tell me

[rain locust]

bc theyre bad

[deft obsidian]

Epic W
Even though so many of my favorite are in bad tier

[proud lion]

Hear me out.

[unkempt stone]

Why Luvdisk specifically

[proud lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1137892936915361942/1272676427615178823/aromateese.354.png?ex=66cc5289&is=66cb0109&hm=538f77ffd56a964b2e9ff766d5e43faff4a02b633f07ae57fb6d7d59ae311398&

[fathom ridge]

Ohhh your tierlist is more for the showdown

[rugged temple]

Spooky yeah

[hollow creek]

Spritzee head fusions could be fun but the body layout is just ugly to me

[molten latch]

[fathom ridge]

That’s fair

[rugged temple]

[unkempt stone]

It’s interesting to like

[thorny ferry]

[deft obsidian]

[unkempt stone]

See the voting divide between Competitive and casual

[twin phoenix]

[rugged temple]

[proud lion]

I wonder after the two Pokémon additions, there could be one or two Frog choices added to the roster per season?

[fathom ridge]

Is more like competitive, casual AND spriters

[deft obsidian]

Wasn't this one in another server?
I swear I saw cabine use this before

[unkempt stone]

Spriters too yea

[molten latch]

[fathom ridge]

Frogman deserves it tbh

[hollow creek]

The vote is split between casual, spriting, and competitive. The casual casual people who just have the discord to get the game updates are all secretly voting kommo o

[unkempt stone]

I’m looking at it simultaneously from Spriting and Casual

[hollow creek]

I would really hope so

[unkempt stone]

Autocorrect cmon

I’m not a competitive person at all

[rain locust]

we must rise up to defeat the shadow council

[fathom ridge]

I have the perspective of I want vikavolt

[unkempt stone]

I should sprite more

[proud lion]

That way Frog can pick underrepresented mons of his choice without vote manipulation

[hollow creek]

All of the frog votes from last time worked out excellently

[unkempt stone]

I forgor

Which one were the frog votes

[proud lion]

I remember the Bruxish Christmas

[unkempt stone]

Bruxish was one for sure

[civic harness]

I hope so

[proud lion]

From Bewear to Cresselia I believe

Minus Meloetta

[fathom ridge]

How would the community react if frogman added the monkeys for fun

[hollow creek]

I think the bruxish and cresselia picks were to get the total pokemon count to 470

[molten latch]

Best emote combo

[hollow creek]

QUOTE LASS W

[civic harness]

And Scraggy did it

[proud lion]

More Ash representation!!

[hot hamlet]

SCRAGGY HAS BEEN CHOSEN

[hexed agate]

quotelass W

[near galleon]

Oh sweeet, Scraggy is n0ice

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[proud lion]

And I know a certain YouTuber who would approve of this

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-lets-goo-lest-gooooooooooooooooo-gif-19416648

[twin phoenix]

SCRAFTY?!

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-scraggy-victini-dancing-high-five-gif-17290668

[fathom ridge]

Yay the skin shedder rascal

[elfin forge]

Apparently HoodlumCallum doesn't even like Scrafty that much anymore

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-ok-venti-gif-25251005

Didn’t know that

[simple gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/scraggy-gif-26563046

[elfin forge]

I mean personally only 3 of these guys really peak my interest

[hollow creek]

I remember that dude, I cant believe hes still doing youtube after like literally 10 years?

[twin phoenix]

Nooo, Venti, don't be sad..

[fathom ridge]

WHAT TH-

[hollow creek]

THATS CANON

[unkempt stone]

Scraggy/Scrafty is big

[civic harness]

Poketoons

[hollow creek]

IVE SEEN THAT BEFORE ITS CANON

Just dont use that animation for base sprites

[clear lichen]

My discord closed itself upon seeing that gif

[unkempt stone]

I need to go make Beheeyeem sprites when I get home

[clear lichen]

What have you done

[proud lion]

I’m hoping Quote didn’t choose them because of that

[twin phoenix]

I need to go draw the second concept art now that I have an idea for it.

[bitter comet]

Man, I feel like the second vote will be really tight

[clear lichen]

Anyways I'm mostly just taking into account design and viability for a Pokemon

[fathom ridge]

Digglett/scraggy
I won’t say anything else

[twin phoenix]

If I don't see my top 3, I'll vote Lurantis.

[leaden violet]

https://tenor.com/view/isopod-spin-gif-23204650

[clear lichen]

Since I'm not a spriter and have 0 idea how to sprite

[leaden violet]

You're welcome

[sweet horizon]

I love isopods

[twin phoenix]

Nice Victini role~

[clear lichen]

Thanks

[rancid nymph]

And that’s why I do custom dex entries instead

[civic harness]

We hope If everyone fo the special list is in

[hollow creek]

Rn the best mon in the special vote is golisopod obviously

My ranking would be

[bitter comet]

Not sure what you chose, but thank you

[clear lichen]

OK but why did you hang the goliath isopod to the ceiling fan

[leaden violet]

I chose Golisopod

[fathom ridge]

The one I like the most in the second vote is ribombee

[leaden violet]

because he on that Iso-copter

[unkempt stone]

Ribombee has fun potential

[bitter comet]

You’re the person!

[civic harness]

You just bring hope to one old team in the votes

[unkempt stone]

Come to think of it like

[clear lichen]

It's a fun gif though

[sweet horizon]

AAAA

[unkempt stone]

How many psychic types are in Infinite fusion that aren’t legendaries or mythicals

[fathom ridge]

Golisopod actually has a fair chance in the vote ngl

[civic harness]

The second place in Spriter Votes of the last year

[clear lichen]

Idk

[hollow creek]

1. goliso
2. Lurantis
3. Crawdaun
4. Scrafty
5. Carbinky
6. Rizzbombee
7. Tropio
8. Slurp uff

[molten latch]

[clear lichen]

Reuniclus is in right?

[molten latch]

Today I will

[unkempt stone]

Yea

[clear lichen]

I'm not stupid or anything?

OK good

[fathom ridge]

Rizzbombee

[clear lichen]

That's 3 (1 if only fully evolved mons)

[hollow creek]

Popular amongst spriters AND competitive people (from what ive heard from anaconja)

[rancid nymph]

Why is Ribombee below Carbink

[clear lichen]

And then there's more

[leaden violet]

Lurantis is a close second for me, too

[clear lichen]

But I'm too lazy rn

[rain locust]

go conja

[unkempt stone]

The ones I know of are Mr. Mime, Reuniclus, and some others

Brain is having issues remembering

I’d need to take a look at the full sprite sheet of all current Pokemon

[twin phoenix]

Alakazam~

[civic harness]

Ecept if there is more anime girls fans, so Lurantis could win

[hollow creek]

Carbinkee

[unkempt stone]

Alakazam yea

[rain locust]

carbink is zased

[twin phoenix]

Starmie, Slowking, uhh.. Xatu

[civic harness]

They add another pog/gasp emote?

[hollow creek]

[civic harness]

Wait

No

No no

[hollow creek]

I liked the shpeal one more but this is also funny

[fathom ridge]

I just realized they added new emotes

[clear lichen]

All the Gen 1 and 2 mons by default

[hollow creek]

New favorite emote

[civic harness]

Shoot

[clear lichen]

But I'm too lazy to remember them rn

[rugged temple]

T R O P I U S V O T E

[clear lichen]

Ik Starmie

[twin phoenix]

[fathom ridge]

[rugged temple]

[clear lichen]

Since Starmie is one of the few Pokemon from Gen 1 I like

[civic harness]

[rugged temple]

[clear lichen]

Most I'm more neutral towards

[fathom ridge]

[clear lichen]

That said my neutral is still above average imo

[molten latch]

[clear lichen]

I have like 2 neutral zones

[molten latch]

Spheal Invasion

[fathom ridge]

[molten latch]

Lets go!

[clear lichen]

The "above average" zone and "average" zone

[civic harness]

Help

[unkempt stone]

So

[fathom ridge]

god I love this one

[clear lichen]

Both I don't think about often but the latter I'd compliment it if I was told to talk about it

(From a casual standpoint)

[rancid nymph]

The Spheal army is coming!!!!

[unkempt stone]

We have a count of 6 psychic type evo lines so far

[civic harness]

HELP

[ember bear]

would be funny if spheal lost the vote again

[fathom ridge]

[molten latch]

[civic harness]

Or If the two opposites can co-exist

[rancid nymph]

We’d have a Spheal emote but not the Pokémon in game

[ember bear]

ok we cut spheal in half and it's a deal

[civic harness]

Like ?

[fathom ridge]

What if we raided #spriter-general with the

[rancid nymph]

Well, we CANT have Alcreamy in the game

[civic harness]

You know what Im talking about

[rancid nymph]

If Spheal loses the vote, we should all spam

[velvet root]

Crafty got in the vote
Nice

[civic harness]

Zero, Help

[hot hamlet]

Now both pants options are options

[velvet root]

Yeah?

[ember bear]

stripes or loose

[civic harness]

Spheal has emote

[velvet root]

Lol

[fathom ridge]

[velvet root]

I love it

[molten latch]

[analog stag]

Scrafty added

[civic harness]

[clear lichen]

Not wrong

[fathom ridge]

Why is it looking at me

[hot hamlet]

I know one person who will like this new stocker

[bitter comet]

[fathom ridge]

[molten loom]

[hot hamlet]

oh your here lol

[bitter comet]

This is the best form of round seal propaganda

[molten loom]

[molten loom]

It's perfect for when I crash to minimize

[hot hamlet]

Exactly what I was thinking

[bitter comet]

Mawile has seen your sins

[outer matrix]

I wonder when the speed spriter event is going to begin

[civic harness]

How did you expect Frog to spy us?

[molten loom]

For reference of my last run

[trail hull]

scraggy huh

[molten loom]

[rancid nymph]

It’s a pretty good sticker TBF

[molten loom]

[outer matrix]

When did tropius get added?

[stuck bane]

UNOVA LOVE SPOTTED

[stuck bane]

I know he doesn’t stand a chance, but on the impossible odds I’m rooting for my pants wearing natural moxie rep

[clear lichen]

Krookodile is my preferred Moxie Pokemon

[hot hamlet]

Wasn't notified but I saw it this morning

[clear lichen]

For the simple reason of I prefer Krookodile's design

It's already in the game though

[stuck bane]

Scrafty: adds more fighting types and dark types, baggy pants fusions, Mohawk fusions, hood fusions, and is a Mon used on ash’s team, only fighting and dark type with access to shed skin, also the only fighting type to naturally get moxie, and good attack/defense/special defense, also the only dark type with access to brick break naturally, and the only dark type head with access to chip away, and the only dark type with access to facade naturally

Natural moxie would change up my nuzlockes so much

[molten loom]

We're getting so many

[clear lichen]

Krookodile probably isn't the only Pokemon to have a HA worse than both its normal abilities

Especially since a lot of Intimidate users get Moxie

[clear lichen]

In fact I think all Moxie users have Intimidate

Nvm

I'm stupid

A lot of them do though

In my defence, Quaquaval is a new Pokemon

[ember bear]

pinsir!

[clear lichen]

And nobody uses Moxie Heracross, or non Mega Pinsir

Or Honchkrow

[ember bear]

just get a kill before mega evolving 🔥

[clear lichen]

And it's a HA on all those 3 Pokemon

[clear lichen]

Yeah idk how I didn't remember Pinsir honestly

Since I usually try to get Quick Attack kills in base form specifically because of Moxie

Despite that being dumb

Because I keep miscalculating

[ember bear]

breh i did that too

[clear lichen]

And failing to KO

[ember bear]

miscalculations included

[clear lichen]

And also, Moxie on Pyroar is a joke

Giving Moxie to a Special Attacker 💀

It's like giving Defiant to a Special Attacker cough cough Empoleon

They fixed that at least

[lament tree]

Noctowl better

[clear lichen]

Noctowl doesn't get Moxie

Unless I'm stupid

[ember bear]

it doesn't

[sweet horizon]

It doesn't, Ik cuz I needed to check it's abilities a couple days ago for a project

[inland jewel]

Finally two pokemon I can get behind

LFG Golisopod and Scrafty

oh, nd welcome Tropius too i guess

[stuck bane]

Please

I know it’s not possible but I’m rooting for him

[inland jewel]

on another note, what if Frogman did a seperate poll to find out which legendary/mythical we can add

[stuck bane]

Might be the thing for 500k, idk

[inland jewel]

500K and we get anotehr 20 slots

imagine

[stuck bane]

I won’t

Don’t give me hope like that

[ember bear]

500k pokemon

[thorny ferry]

how many sprites would need to be made if that happened??

[hollow creek]

Looks like we’ll get to 500k members before the 29th

I thought this whole event was for the 500k member mark

[stuck bane]

Uh, I don’t remember the exact calculation, but it’s like 20 squared times two for head/body fusions minus some small amount?

[thorny ferry]

we need 221.391 as of now if I'm not mistaken, 40 more would be a lot more (but I'm not complaining in the slightest )

[stuck bane]

It was but they weren’t expecting a bunch of people to leave after being pinged

There’s some event planned, but it was planned to be an active thing through the duration of fusion (month) whenever we hit 500k. Now it’s just gonna be an event at the tail end since we haven’t hit 500k yet

Less than 1.5k members to go

[hollow creek]

I wouldn’t be down for 5 very low rated mons illumise and others to be added just to give spriters something to do lol

[molten loom]

No it was for being so close to it, and they had expected people to leave after the ping

[hollow creek]

So you’ll think we’ll have a new event on top of this? Like a new vote?

[stuck bane]

Here

[hollow creek]

I was thinking maybe there’d be a starter vote at the end just for funsies

[deft obsidian]

Another new vote? Maybe this time for legends

[thorny ferry]

yeah ofc

[bitter comet]

I’m voting gen 7 if that happens

[eager jungle]

[clear lichen]

I'd dispute that but I think it's probably the one I like the most out of the 3 eligible trios

[ember bear]

meh

[clear lichen]

Serperior's my favourite overall of all the available starters but I think the average for me is highest on Gen 7's

[weak trellis]

oof I'm in the wrong chat my bad. Out of the starters though I might vote gen 6?

[clear lichen]

And having starters not come in their trios would feel wrong

[ember bear]

i like gen 7 but looking back at what happened the last time starters were in the vote it's obvious which one is the most favored

[clear lichen]

I have 0 clue if you're referring to Gen 5 or Gen 6 lmao

[weak trellis]

on the other hand though gen 5 gives us both a contrary starter and the chance to make emboar actually good

and it's also next in the order

[clear lichen]

Greninja is extremely popular but I'm pretty sure most fans straight despise the other 2 Gen 6 starters

Personally I like them though

[bitter comet]

I do like the water type starter for gen 5, but I always forget about him

[ember bear]

yeah greninja most probably carried the other starters

[clear lichen]

None of the generations really have a clear pick for competitive fans honestly

I think most ahead in that regard is Gen 7, with Primarina being good in Singles and Incineroar is Doubles

But Decidueye kinda sucks

[weak trellis]

I was gonna say I'm one of the few that likes delphox the most of that gen but I can see it

[clear lichen]

Greninja hard carries Gen 6 competitively

Chesnaught is decent, Delphox is meh

But Battle Bond and Protean are just

[weak trellis]

Greninja also has both anime rep and smash rep going for it as well

[clear lichen]

Absurd

[weak trellis]

and a lot of people underestimate the sheer power of smash rep, it's a large part of how lucario got on the map after all. (alongside its movie)

[clear lichen]

Similarly, Gen 5 is hard carried by Serperior

Competitively

[weak trellis]

(actually incineroar can claim both points as well even if ash's use of incineroar was less pronounced compared to torracat's use)

[clear lichen]

I feel like Incineroar might honestly be disadvantaged

It's unpopular outside of competitive from what I can tell

And heck, some Competitive Pokemon are disliked for their prowess

And Incineroar is one of them

[ember bear]

isn't inci good because of moves that it got from later gens

[clear lichen]

Other names include Lando-T in some cases and Toxapex

[ember bear]

or was it already used before?

[clear lichen]

Nope, it was top tier in Gen 7 as well iirc

[ember bear]

dang

[clear lichen]

Tbf it did need buffs from a singles POV

It needed them very bad

Incineroar is trash in Singles

With Primarina hard carrying the group in that regard

[weak trellis]

from what I remember it's mostly the combo of fake out + pivot move + intimidate for incineroar so basically "the opposing side does not get to have offensive stats"

and dark/fire did something defensivley that was really good but I forget what

[stuck bane]

Something like prankster immunity and neutral against fairy attacks? I think?

[weak trellis]

oh right I can see that

though I forget if fairy type moves became a really big deal in gen 9 because of Flutter Mane specifically or if that was relevant in gens 7/8 as well

[inland jewel]

incineroar had a better metagame in Gen 8 than Gen 9 i think

since in gen 9 there were a lot more stuff that could check Incineroar than Gen 8 could

[hollow creek]

If it was my call Id choose gen 5 starters in a heartbeat

this patterning would look cool on literally anything

[twin phoenix]

The shiny alts are gunna be awesome~

[glass patio]

i’d love samurott

[hollow creek]

I wanna do a samurott/wailord joke alt of a narwhal from that one song

https://tenor.com/view/narwhals-narwhal-ocean-swimming-song-gif-4818130

[glass patio]

🗿

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/scrafty-pokemon-pokémon-flying-zoomies-gif-17244249425392771398

[stuck bane]

It won’t be starters… but what if?

[gray vine]

embour my boy

probably msipelled it still my boi

[clever vigil]

I gave into the voices

Banana

[bitter comet]

The voices are always right on the end

You should listen to them more often

[alpine rune]

I hate you

[high haven]

New list
Slurpuff
Crawdaunt
Golisopod
Lurantis
Carbink
Ribombee
Pelipper
Scrafty
Tropius
I got a new personal bottom

[clever vigil]

[alpine rune]

You don't deserve to say that when your standard quality is seviper

[clever vigil]

Whoops

[high haven]

Dude it's my opinion, I just don't find tropius interesting.

[bitter comet]

Ever since I found out the hard way that Arbok does not evolve into Serviper(this was during my first play through of IF) I’ve had a want it to be in the game, not the top of my list but it’s on the list at the very least

[hollow creek]

tropious is a little similar to meganium but different enough to there you can do a lot of unique stuff with it, a 2 in my list

or 1 nvm

I forget how my list is lol

[high haven]

The only thing it brings to the table that is unique is banana and I would rather have fusions get a big mouth.

Trevenant is tree, meganium has the same body shape and hoppip has the little leaf things.

[velvet root]

Imagine we had a unicorn in PIF

[civic harness]

498.672 members guys

[bitter comet]

Man, I will perform necromancy to get the server back to 500k/j

Just have to buy a bunch of undead people things that can get access to Discord

[civic harness]

Creppypasta material

[hollow creek]

there's no way we dont get 500k within the next 3.5 days

[civic harness]

MAYBE tomorrow in the night we get 499.000

[hollow creek]

We'll definitely be there by a little aftern noon tomorrow

[civic harness]

So that gave to us...

3 days to get 1000 more

[clear lichen]

It went down to 498666

[white meadow]

I remember rooting for Golisopod last year

[clear lichen]

Like i literally saw the number tick down from another

[bitter comet]

666, hell yeah!

[white meadow]

Maybe now he'll have a chance

[clear lichen]

Giratina's already in the game though

[civic harness]

[clear lichen]

Oh it went up again

[bitter comet]

I mean, he was second in the spriter vote last time and now he’s in the second vote so.

[stuck bane]

Nice

So tomorrow is final tourney, day after that is speed spriter, elusive still needs to be judged and concept deadline is in 3 days. We’re almost to the end

[civic harness]

Do you think we can get 500.000 before the end of the votes?

[bitter comet]

Does anyone here have like a prominent TikTok or social media account that they could advertise the server on?/hj

[stuck bane]

Yes, I think it’s like 33 members per hour and then 700ish per day, we should hit in 2 days iirc

[civic harness]

Well, I try in a social media but I see that is not working

[civic harness]

The problem is that some people just go away by everyone pings

[stuck bane]

As long as some rogue staff member doesn’t do that again though we still should make it despite the deficit

[civic harness]

Anyways, what do you think about the three reveals of this day?

Of the special vote

[bitter comet]

In my opinion, they are good

Someone selected Golisopod and that’s all I needed to hear

[stuck bane]

I like em all, tropius was one I considered using as a kid (before learning about Serperior), scrafty is unova so I gotta rep that, and Golisopod is basically winning the entire special vote

[weak trellis]

scrafty is another good pick, trop is like mid but I can see it

[civic harness]

Well, exist an risk, anime girl fans

[rugged temple]

Give me Claydol

[weak trellis]

oh right bugs uuuh

water types but I can see people doing fun stuff with wimp out/emergency exit so it balances out to even

[civic harness]

If someone that wins the last events select that

[stuck bane]

Lurantis or Ribombee or both? I hate to break it to you but lurantis prob still loses to goliso due to positioning and slight popularity lead, and nothing else stands a chance against goliso

[rugged temple]

Nah vote 3 points for it

[stuck bane]

Unless legendaries are retroactively allowed to be on the special vote nothing is stopping Golisopod

[civic harness]

The replace

[civic harness]

That gave to one team a lot of hope

[rugged temple]

I just now am realizing there's a size difference in the emojis

[bitter comet]

and are best friends, and there is no telling me otherwise

[rugged temple]

[civic harness]

and too

[rugged temple]

Same energy

[civic harness]

Well, we have too much gasp and surprise emotes

[hollow creek]

is me in real life

[civic harness]

Anyways

[molten loom]

[stuck bane]

Like what do you want me to do? Nothing compares, it is physically impossible to appeal to more spriters due to 2nd place in spriter vote, comp players still want it as defensive water type with spikes, and it was placed in the vote by the dex entry winner, meaning it doesn’t need to appeal to a random dex entry person and only needs to appeal to competitive and spriters, something it already does insanely well or the best.

Unless some crazy alliance is made to spite the dex entry winner, goliso wins that vote

[molten loom]

They have uses depending on the situation

[rugged temple]

[molten loom]

You killed katten

You cut them in half

[rugged temple]

anyways this is the perfect emote

[civic harness]

Im talking about one team that in the last year, they try to add Scoilipede, Necrozma and Golissopod in the game, now the team needs to make one last try

[stuck bane]

That’s the thing I don’t think they need to try and goliso will still win

[civic harness]

Well, if the members still alive on Discord

[stuck bane]

One is for sure, idk about the other members though

[molten loom]

I revived them

[stuck bane]

oops

[civic harness]

[molten loom]

[civic harness]

[stuck bane]

Mitosis is real in PIF?!?!

[clear lichen]

Bro underwent mitosis

[civic harness]

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-second-child-there-are-two-of-them-getting-out-of-hand-gif-16342964

[civic harness]

[civic harness]

[stuck bane]

A mutation!

Such is the circle of life’s way of adapting

[civic harness]

[outer matrix]

[molten loom]

A chimera

[velvet root]

[civic harness]

[stuck bane]

“Meloetta got her pirouette form why can’t I get my origin form???”

[civic harness]

[civic harness]

Regional form

[velvet root]

[civic harness]

[velvet root]

[civic harness]

[velvet root]

[hollow creek]

[civic harness]

[outer matrix]

[jade canyon]

wait so there only adding one of the pokemon in the game

that’s crazy

[hollow creek]

no there's two new pokemon

[jade canyon]

oh 2

[fathom ridge]

dear god what are these unholy creations

[outer matrix]

but the actual amount will vary depending on how many Pokémon an evo-line has

[unique flame]

give gourgeist a 3

[velvet root]

no

https://tenor.com/view/tubeclash-gif-27049083

[civic harness]

[outer matrix]

catdog

[civic harness]

KAJAJAJAJA

[hidden relic]

Howdy folks!

Movie Night begins in a short bit!!
Join if you were interested in watching Detective Pikachu
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1148785825178460241

[civic harness]

Awesome

[civic harness]

[scenic crow]

I think its high time Pokemon Fusion got some more aliens, here hoping Elgyem and Beheeyem get in

[fathom ridge]

the silly aliens are a very solid choice

[civic harness]

The problem is that the people want little poor things

[silent acorn]

I knew

The banana Dino would come

2 choices I am eh on

Well that's gonna be inevitable on anything vote related

It's like the unwritten pokefan brainwash code

"YOU SHALL LIKE THE BANANA"

Or else

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-muppet-show-gonzo-lynn-redgrave-rack-gif-27482735

[gray vine]

i mean nobody says you ahve to like it

it seems more you want others to not like it or else you do this to em

[silent acorn]

Oh really

[clear lichen]

It's decent imo

[silent acorn]

Wait two silverrs?

[silent acorn]

Elaborate

[clear lichen]

But it's so bad that it manages to be one of the very few Pokemon that I ranked lower because of competitive

[silent acorn]

I can understand scrafty

[clear lichen]

I'd put it in mid-high B tier but ended up putting it in low-mid B tier

[silent acorn]

I mean that's where it should be

It's exactly as it seems

[clear lichen]

It's a B tier mon for me

It's decent

Definitely above average

[silent acorn]

A less strong meganium with bananas on the neck

[clear lichen]

The "average" tier for me is C tier

[silent acorn]

So not that good

[clear lichen]

I put quotations on "average"

[silent acorn]

Tropius is that "I am inevitable pokemon"

[clear lichen]

Because like 20 Pokemon max go below C tier

[silent acorn]

Somehow it has to be brought up because... "heehee pokemon right?"

Still I ranked it fair and square

On NEEDS creativity

[ember bear]

seemed pretty evitable the first time there as a vote

[silent acorn]

On both sprite and competitive and gameplay

[silent acorn]

Happened on spriters, happened on raffle I think, happens again

I mean I'd understand archeops being there

[velvet root]

Greetings

[silent acorn]

Hi Cipher

Here just exposing the Banana conspiracy

Behind the greater powers

Are people

With bananas on their brains

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/tropius-meganium-pokemon-gif-27432727

ded

[clear lichen]

Is it me or is that meganium bigger than normal

[silent acorn]

Everyone watched that ONE EPISODE of the Anime and skipped the rest huh

[velvet root]

In that episode they have the same height

[clear lichen]

Maybe it's because Meganium's official art is mainly facing the front

[velvet root]

I sadly never saw it
But I know the love story from Tropius and Meganium was good

[clear lichen]

So we don't get to see its proportions well

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/tropius-meganium-pokemon-nurse-joy-gif-27432733

[silent acorn]

Eh Butterfree was more touching

[clear lichen]

Idk that Meganium just looks weirdly big

Like in proportion

[velvet root]

Okay Meganium is around 20cm smaller than Tropius

[silent acorn]

To have the spotlight

[velvet root]

a Meganium is 1.8m big

[silent acorn]

Because actually underrated plant pokemon

[clear lichen]

But like I said

Meganium mainly faces the front

So it may just be that

It is not directly facing the front usually but you get what I mean

[velvet root]

Funny enough someone could calc how big Nurse Joy is

[stuck bane]

Pokémon aren’t that big, isn’t charizard only slightly bigger than a 10 year old?

[velvet root]

Zard is 1.6 I think

1.7m

I checked

[stuck bane]

1.6 what? If that’s feet that can’t be right

Meters?

[velvet root]

Im European we use Meters

[ember bear]

pokemon sizes are just so weird

[silent acorn]

I like how you guys are hyper fixated on sizes

[clear lichen]

If a Meganium looks weirdly big to me I'm gonna comment on it

Like I said it's mostly the proportions

[silent acorn]

I mean

[ember bear]

like most pokemon are way shorter than they should look like

[clear lichen]

That are hard to see because of how the official art is angled

[stuck bane]

I mean, it’s not too difficult, both meganium and tropius here seem about the size of a real life pony

[clear lichen]

But yeah Pokemon are relatively small

They're still usually extremely strong and agile (usuall) elemental beings that could beat a human in a fight with ease

But if nothing else we can laugh at Lucario for being short

[velvet root]

I wonder
Is there anyone who likes Meganium more than Bayleef

[sleek hornet]

Charizard being 5’11 (correct me if I’m wrong) yeah short king (?)

[stuck bane]

I would still punt a cleffa to the moon I don’t care what abilities it has

[clear lichen]

Even normal types are elemental beings

[ember bear]

i wonder if that includes the tail

[clear lichen]

Look at those fucking movepools

[sleek hornet]

They’re the avatar

[stuck bane]

This is how we can tell you’re a girl for believing 5’11 is short

[velvet root]

if what includes a tail?

[clear lichen]

Why can Tauros cast Snowgrave on my ass

[ember bear]

i mean charizard

ig i should just reply

[sleek hornet]

Well short for a dragon, rephrase.

Don’t worry Ik 5’11 is tall as a women.

[velvet root]

I think only Snakes, Fish and long Pokemon like Furret get messured from head to tail

[sleek hornet]

Yeah.

Imagine if they did stand up XD

[velvet root]

What I wonder is if some mons get measured from Foot to highest point of the body (so not the head)

[clear lichen]

I'd hope Furret is measured head to tail

[stuck bane]

Fair, but zero said it’s 1.7m should be just under 5’7”, so yeah shorter than the average guy and (I think) the average height of a girl

[clear lichen]

Otherwise that mf is like 3.6 meters long

[velvet root]

ik 1.8 m (5′11″)

[sleek hornet]

True. The average high of a girl is 5’4. (Funny I’m literally that height. XD) :3

[clear lichen]

Dragapult's probably measured head to tail right?

[velvet root]

yeah prob

I mean it levitates head to tail too

[clear lichen]

If it wasn't it'd be like 7 meters long

[stuck bane]

I miss the days of HGSS where I’m 90% sure it told you what body type/measurement it was using

[clear lichen]

Idk whether winged Pokemon are measured from head to tail or by wingspan

Heck, I don't even think it's consistent

[sleek hornet]

Ah, that
Does sound nice. (I really need to play that xd)

[clear lichen]

A lot of people seem to immediately assume wingspan

But judging by Lunala's in game sprite, it isn't

[velvet root]

True
I can see Crobat being messured by the wing span

[ember bear]

isn't it listed as "height" tho

[clear lichen]

Because Lunala is most certainly head to tail

[ember bear]

or is it just length

[velvet root]

cuz yeah 1.8 m (5′11″)

[clear lichen]

I struggle seeing Lunala's height as its wingspan seeing the ingame sprite

Unless I'm misremembering

[sleek hornet]

Iirc I remember Lunala being pretty huge.

Might be misremembering too. xd

[velvet root]

I wonder how they messure Yveltal 5.8 m (19′00″)

[ember bear]

yeah it is listed as height

[clear lichen]

Lunala is listed as 4 meters

[sleek hornet]

Interesting

[ember bear]

i don't really think they use wingspan for that

[velvet root]

Is it head to tail
Wing spawn
when its standing
man idk

[sleek hornet]

how would they even measure the wings of Lunala?

[clear lichen]

4 meters for Lunala seems more accurate as head to tail(?)

[clear lichen]

I'd assume to the yellow part

[velvet root]

Isnt Lunala pretty round

[sleek hornet]

oh yeah true.

[ember bear]

not really

[clear lichen]

The official art makes it seem like it is

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/lillie-trainer-lillie-lunala-nebby-pokemon-gif-25532861

[clear lichen]

In game though

Yeah no

[ember bear]

it looks more wide from the front

[sleek hornet]

Nope

As in the not round part

I agree with you guys

[velvet root]

btw am i the only one who doesnt like Solgaleo?

[clear lichen]

Probably not, but I'm personally a fan

Every Pokemon's bound to have at least 1 hater

Well not at least 1

[velvet root]

OMG I just notice the server pic

[ember bear]

i do like lunala more

[clear lichen]

At least like

A few dozen

[ember bear]

don't really mind leo that much

[sleek hornet]

I just feel neutral towards it tbh. I don’t like it but don’t hate it. :/

[clear lichen]

Lunala VS Solgaleo is a weird conversation since some places Lunala is heavily in the lead, others it's the opposite

And sometimes it's rather even

[sleek hornet]

Same, I like Moon bat :3.

[velvet root]

[clear lichen]

But I don't really think I see many people dislike either

[velvet root]

Love that emote

[clear lichen]

Anyways, Lunala's tied for my favourite Pokemon

And I think you can guess who's the other Pokemon by my pfp

Needless to say, I prefer Lunala

[sleek hornet]

I’d say Lunala is one of my favorite ghost types besides mimikyu, and Mismagius.

[terse fable]

Yo just saw pants got in winner poll

[ember bear]

it's clearly latias ofc!

[terse fable]

lookin pretty hype so farr

[sleek hornet]

Golisopid and Scrafty Lesssss Gooooooo, love those guys.

[clear lichen]

Omg I can't tell how tall Lunala is because it keeps flying around everytime I get close

And it's already levitating over the ground

[civic harness]

The new emotes are making chaos

[sleek hornet]

And it doesn’t have any feet so you can’t ask it to land XD

[civic harness]

One just take over the logo

[terse fable]

New emotes are firee lol

[sleek hornet]

Yeppers just looked :3

Someone’s prbly spamming them XD.

[clear lichen]

A 10 year old averages from ~1.3-1.5 meters

My Lunala is apparently average sized, and while it doesn't seem to be slightly over twice the height of the player, its wingspan is far too long for that to be a possibility

This likely means that
A: It's measuring head to ground for whatever reason
B: Models aren't to scale
C: The player is abnormally tall for a 10 year old
D: The player isn't a 10 year old

I could see it being a mix of A and B

[clear lichen]

Lunala's height is head to tail, but due some coding, the game may be measuring it from head to ground when loading the model

Either that, or I'm looking too much into it

Crobat's height is almost definitely its wingspan

I could check L:A but I'm lazy

[velvet root]

Another one

Getting close to have Sprited one of all the mons in the Winner vote

I need to do
Swirlix
Lurantis
Crawdaunt
Wimpod/Golisopod
Tropius
Scrafty

any ideas
Or like you wanna see something as head or as body

[velvet root]

@muted geyser do you have ideas?

[muted geyser]

I have these two concepts from the concept art event

Luranris/Mawile could be interesting

[velvet root]

So cute

I cant imagine a Mawile version XD

or can I...

It will be a lot of work but it will be good

[mild sedge]

it’s been so long istg

[hushed mantle]

So far none of the event winners has missed with their choice 🔥🔥

[agile olive]

yeah I wouldn't mind any of them being in. except ribombee

[silk narwhal]

Yooo holy shit who picked Golisopod

[fathom ridge]

powerpoint duel >:)

[agile olive]

this is quite unreadable lol

[fathom ridge]

i will upgrade it... tomorrow

[velvet root]

Heyo Rick
Any ideas who I can fuse with Wimpod and Golisopod?

[twin phoenix]

Necrozma?

I just looked at the person's name and it had Necrozma in it. Black glass armor and claws seems like a cool concept.

[velvet root]

I remember him saying that when its in he will do it so nah

[twin phoenix]

Oh, I see.

Groudon?

[molten loom]

Love it

[velvet root]

I love Groudon
But I gave up Spriting one like 5 times XD

But maybe it doesnt sound too hard to mix those

[twin phoenix]

It's an armored looking mon with claws.

Golisopod even has armor parts that look like they are erupting.

[velvet root]

Im not happy but eh

[twin phoenix]

Ayy, that's so cool!! I knew it would look great~

[thorny ferry]

Wdym you are not happy

That looks sick as hell

[twin phoenix]

Dang it, seems like Primal Groudon is the way to achieve glowing parts.

[velvet root]

Idk something feels bad about it
Maybe my mind thinks that Groudon looks so good that it doesnt want to change it?
I know I had the same problem with Torterra and Scoli for a while

[twin phoenix]

I think it's that the head is purely Groudon.

[velvet root]

I would have done primal form but I know they said they add more forms so maybe Primals too one day

[velvet root]

I couldnt get them fused at all XD

[twin phoenix]

Might be too detailed to sprite.

[inland geyser]

discuss

[twin phoenix]

I really just altered the purple face thing to be more Groudon shaped while keeping the eye.

That looks rad!

[velvet root]

Too detaild but the eye should be possible

[twin phoenix]

Sorry.

[velvet root]

Okay it doesnt

Nah its fine

[inland geyser]

?

[twin phoenix]

Maybe I should have suggested something simple like Goomy.

[agile olive]

it's sick. I think perhaps your issue is that the pose looks a bit rigid? it's cool as is tho

if you want you could change the pose of the left hand

[velvet root]

the pose is actually from a card and a base I made a year ago

[velvet root]

Both dont work

#1277425281694699613

[agile olive]

yeah I know it's an existing base

[velvet root]

So we dont spam here

[atomic lagoon]

quite the opposite on my end

[agile olive]

[high haven]

I did a fusion between Magcargo and Zangoose! I like it

[agile olive]

I saw that in #1263858526829416539, very cool!

[high haven]

Hell yeah! I just wanted to share it

[atomic lagoon]

use fullscreen

[woven oxide]

This looks sick as hell

[velvet root]

The up to date version is better

[woven oxide]

Oh that is extremely sick

DId Golisopod win yet?

[velvet root]

Nope

Sadly not

[sweet spoke]

Mmmm Magoose…..

A less silly version is Zangcargo which is pretty cool………

[placid pelican]

ahh

umm

Dragalge

[twin phoenix]

Preview of my second concept. Of course, it will be too elaborate to sprite.
There is no Gothitelle, but there is a legend!

[velvet root]

It looks adorable but I dont have a idea what it is

[twin phoenix]

It is indeed part adorable but the other part is terrifying.

[velvet root]

I see so many pokemon in that making it hard to guess

[twin phoenix]

Ah, just wait until I submit it.

I'll grind very hard on this tonight.

[outer matrix]

is it masquerade/latias?

[twin phoenix]

Ooh, that's pretty close!
How does typing work for fusions?

[ornate tide]

Yawn

[velvet root]

Getting closer!

[velvet root]

Okay guys!
the last 4 who should be head and who should be a body

[grizzled hatch]

Tropius head Crawdaunt body

Is that what you meant?

I may be stupid

[velvet root]

I dont fuse the mon in the list

I fuse them with a mon that is in PIF already

like that

[stuck bane]

Scrafty meloetta (you can choose aria or pirouette)

Actually pirouette needs some more sprites, scrafty head pirouette body

[velvet root]

I never said that someone can decide the fusion

[stuck bane]

Wait, oh you mean like me saying “scrafty body” and then you decide the fusion?

[gray vine]

tbh its worded as if they could decide it

i also dont get what you want lul, but i mean imma say wimpod/stunfisk

[outer matrix]

any suggestions for non-if meloettas?

[gray vine]

well i mean there is one just 4 messages up

[outer matrix]

Well then, the only thing I can think of for Scrafty/meloetta pirouette is to base it off of street dancing

[velvet root]

Had the same thought when Courage told me but I know my skill is too low for that

[velvet root]

Eggxactly

[stuck bane]

Ok then that

[velvet root]

My sleep deprived brain has to work less then
and I have to store some energy for when I have to drive my brother in like 1.5 hours

[grizzled hatch]

Still Tropius head though

It’s funny

[high haven]

Oh my god that's a fantastic name!!!

[sweet spoke]

Hehehehe

[white meadow]

What are the new mon being added?

[velvet root]

We dont know

[proud lion]

We will find out on the 29th I think

[molten latch]

Today I will

Discuss about other mons that I havent mentioned.

That would be Shiftry

https://tenor.com/view/shiftry-pokemon-gif-27487506

Seriously

Nobody has ever talked or mention about this Pokemon and its line

I mean Seedot is consider cute.

[jade canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/scraggy-gif-10636033

[alpine rune]

Can we just add all hoenn Pokémon and call it a day?

[thin yoke]

if vikavolt is not chosen i will swear (once)

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/tropius-pokemon-gif-27432751

[prisma willow]

Once again I urge you to vote Liligant

[silent acorn]

I did but unfortunately many fans want goofy mons

Not the mons that could make you a badass ninja

Or a knight or a titan

Or any of that

[silent acorn]

A+ definetely a great choice

[silent acorn]

This has more sprites than the entirety of Spritework for Tropium gas

For how back up it is certainly doesn't have as much stuff around

[rugged temple]

Gonna just have to make some then huh

[silent acorn]

Yep still dead

[silent acorn]

Last one is from like 10 days ago

And there is like maybe 3 good ones max

[rugged temple]

I should also make a wip for that Registeel Claydol fusion concept lol

[silent acorn]

Meanwhile Swirlix has a LOT and I mean a CRAPTON of designs

[rugged temple]

Swirlix is just generally more liked because it's a cuter pokemon

Also fairy type

[silent acorn]

I like it's because it's more than a banana thing

It has a bunch going for it and yeah it's cute I love it

[rugged temple]

Tropius is a fun design imo

[silent acorn]

There is very nice designs like a Churro Milotic

[silent acorn]

It's mid

Like its not used for much

Hasn't before and still hasn't now

I would eat my words if there were like 100 sprites or something like that but nope

[silent acorn]

It's one of those people like to treat as a underdog even though it just isn't that good

[rugged temple]

Tropius tip top

[silent acorn]

I dont know

[rain locust]

tropius mid af

offers nothing movepool or stat or typing wise

[rugged temple]

Fuse Tropius onto meganium, get a huge banana bushel ring on the neck

[silent acorn]

I feel there is far more enthusiasm on that thing than actual realistic takes

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/and-so-what-who-cares-your-point-the-weeknd-gif-16600783

[rugged temple]

I like the funny banana neck leaf wing dinosaur

[silent acorn]

So you like tropius because it's funny

So you don't mind If I laugh at it

[rugged temple]

You can prefer stronger movepools or stats or typing, but I don't enjoy this game because of minmaxing powers I like the creativity

[silent acorn]

I like the cotton dog

More fantastical than a palm leaf

[rugged temple]

That's valid, but so is my like for tropius

[silent acorn]

Alright so my take is valid, it is mid

Like there isn't any debating it, it's just that kind

[rugged temple]

Your opinion is nice

[silent acorn]

You can like it but it's eh

[rugged temple]

Anyways

[silent acorn]

I like claydol by the way

[rugged temple]

Good

[silent acorn]

Or would you prefer me to put tropius above claydol

Hmmm actually

[silent acorn]

Now that I think about it...

I feel like the reason for it getting in would be pity

[rugged temple]

You do you, vote however you want

[silent acorn]

Like just pity it never gets attention

No seriously I heard that often

Pity it doesn't evolve, pity it doesn't do much, pity this pity that

[rugged temple]

Nah honestly the pity vote would probably be spinda

[silent acorn]

I wish there was actually an obsessive freak with spriting that thing

That way I could see it better

[rugged temple]

I could try it out but I don't have the energy rn

[silent acorn]

Doesn't the banana energize you?

https://tenor.com/view/banana-wtf-gif-9931576043779502568

It does this guy lol

Man it be sweet to get Swirlix tho

It is a good choice

I have no qualms because sweet cotton doggo

[rain locust]

I Disagree.

[rugged temple]

[silent acorn]

What would you rather have?

The banana?

[rain locust]

pod

[silent acorn]

Ah true it's in the candidatea

I swear to God if the stupid Kommo screw us over then forget friendship and silly shill

The Pod has to enter

Anyway you know the truth is...

Out of all choices

The worst one you can make stares you right there

[rugged temple]

I'm so God damn bored of dragon psuedos

[silent acorn]

It's the only one that doesn't do anything more special than the others

[rugged temple]

Instant 0

[silent acorn]

Just a reminder

Flying is ultra abundant in IF

Water is second most abundant but it's good

However only one choice is what anyone given the others would consider mid

I swear to god

If the meme choice wins it's gonna be so annoying

[rugged temple]

Tfw staraptor voters want more bird

[silent acorn]

There is plenty of good choices

But there is one whose only attractiveness is nostalgia and being considered "The pet"

The silly one

[rain locust]

kommo means boomburst immune ‼️

[silent acorn]

The one you can't judge

[rugged temple]

If I hear another "BUT ASH USED ONE" point made I'm gonna break down the facts for them

[silent acorn]

Screw that bs

We had that annoyance with noivern already

[rugged temple]

The fact it was on Ash's team should be a negative. That boy can't type match for SHIT

[silent acorn]

Also pixelate is run with noivern anyway

[rugged temple]

These pokemon are Jobbers

[rain locust]

that doesnt matter bc ur immune to their stab

[silent acorn]

But Ash used a Pikipek

He used a Scrafty

[rugged temple]

You heard me

[silent acorn]

Scrafty is one fun fact

Can't talk negative about it because the mob lynching will come

[rain locust]

staraptor is at least a flying with intim and uturn which makes it useable with steelix/toxapex as a defensive pivot