pif-hoenn-discussion

[clear lichen]

Because why not

[snow scroll]

and that includes photons

[humble lance]

two of them

[snow scroll]

unless whatever lanturn produces is tachyonic in nature

that light should NOT be visible

[eternal timber]

It could just be old fishermans legends

[snow scroll]

100%

[eternal timber]

Maybe they thought lanturn that were way closer to the surface were still in the deep

[hot hamlet]

Pokémon does not adhere to reality

[eternal timber]

They could do those nightly migrations a lot of deep sea critters do

[snow scroll]

tldr: lanturn wins against 1 billion lions

its not even a contest tbh

[eternal timber]

Lanturn blinds them

Then it just does whatever

[hot hamlet]

And a single gulp apparently

[eternal timber]

Well the single gulp is normal

That’s just a deep sea fish thing

[clear lichen]

Yeah apparently Lanturn producing light at that rate would be a shitton of universes worth of energy

[eternal timber]

A lot of them have elastic stomachs because they dont come across good meals often

[clear lichen]

Something tells me that either Pokemon doesn't have laws of physics

[snow scroll]

i should try doing the math for it tbh

[eternal timber]

So they’re built to take advantage of the opportunity

[snow scroll]

it'd be super funny

[clear lichen]

Or Lanturn is God

[snow scroll]

(all of creation is reduced to ash)

[clear lichen]

Lanturn is the true form of Arceus guys

It's canon

[eternal timber]

How deep does the light from the sun reach in the ocean?

[hot hamlet]

Yeah and Kadabra is a child turned mon who just so happens to have a prevo.
Pokémon dexes should not be taken at face value!

[eternal timber]

That one is more a gen 1 oddity

[clear lichen]

Some of the dex entries seem plausible

[hot hamlet]

Gardevoir black holes

[clear lichen]

I mean, you can see visions of multiple areas during the Eternamax Eternatus cutscenes

[eternal timber]

In gen 1 Pokemon randomly showed up. So that could very well have happened

[clear lichen]

And also the less extreme ones have 0 reason to be doubted

[eternal timber]

Nowadays we can consider that to be just an urban legend

[clear lichen]

But seriously? Black hole creation? Multiversal level light?

[eternal timber]

I think scientists have made tiny black holes

They just tend to collapse on themselves immediately

[clear lichen]

Well then Gardevoir sucks ass at protecting its trainer then

[eternal timber]

Pokémon have crazy energy so they can just do whatever

[clear lichen]

If it either creates an instantly collapsing black hole or dooms the planet

[hot hamlet]

Compared to Garde’s which she can throw at people like a Dragon Ball Ki blast

[eternal timber]

Hers probably collapse as soon as she stops wanting them around

[clear lichen]

Dex entries are half bullshit, 2/5ths normal and 1/5th things that sound like bullshit but are likely true

[light garden]

I don't think that's in IF. :face_with_raised_eyebrow: Did you misspell something?

[eternal timber]

And she can hold her trainer in place with her psychic powers

[clear lichen]

Yeah I'm pretty sure bullshit isn't in Infinite Fusion

[hot hamlet]

That leaves 2/5 unaccounted for

[eternal timber]

So the black hole wont hurt the trainer

[clear lichen]

You're wrong I actually accidentally included an extra 0.5 I think

[eternal timber]

Maybe their brain a little because seeing spagettification is probably horrific

[hot hamlet]

Hatterene can sense emotions from miles away and chase you down to beat them out of you

[clear lichen]

0.5/5 I mean

[eternal timber]

That one is probably an exaggeration or they get really mad about super extreme emotions when they’re used to the wild

[clear lichen]

Or 1/10

Because half is 5/10, 2/5=4/10, 1/5=2/10

2+4+5=11

[hot hamlet]

2/5 normal .4, 1/5 plausible bs .2, 1/2 bs .5
1.1 total

[eternal timber]

Base behavior is definitely to beat the shit out of you tho

[clear lichen]

Yeah so I included 1/10 too much instead of missing 2/5

[eternal timber]

Maybe someone accidentally did the equivalent of when a researcher peed on a jaguars marked tree

[hot hamlet]

Cranked it up to 11

[eternal timber]

And then got chased for days

Remember cats mark territory by spraying concentrated pee. So that was basically trying to take the territory to that cat

[hot hamlet]

Long story short: Dex entries are either exaggerated, or retold urban legends

[eternal timber]

Or they’re just normal science

[clear lichen]

They're either normal, exaggerated, urban legends, or urban legends that might just be true

[eternal timber]

It’s stuff meant to keep kids interested in wildlife

[hot hamlet]

So confirmed, false, plausible, or a tall tale

[clear lichen]

Idk it's complicated

[small tiger]

In short, they’re an unreliable source of info and shouldn’t be taken as fact

[eternal timber]

Some of the entries may be about the origin of the species (kids getting lost in the woods and becoming phantump). But that’s not how every individual of the species occurs

Because once the species exists, they can reproduce

But rarely that species origin event does happen again. So a handful of the many many many existing members of the species were once human

[clear lichen]

Apart from the mentioned dex entries what do y'all think is the most bullshit

[eternal timber]

I’m too eepy to remember more crazy stuff

[clear lichen]

It might be Machamp punching things over the horizon

Ig it's probably the Paradoxes but those are intentionally dubious

[hot hamlet]

I still hold to the idea that PLA created a self contained loop.
You come back with all this Dex knowledge and use it to fill out the original dex, which you then read in the future before going back in time and filling…

[eternal timber]

Yeah, the paradoxes dont really count

[clear lichen]

The Paradox dex entries are literally meant to be wrong most the time

[eternal timber]

Technically you fill out the pla dex entries the normal way

By studying the crap out of the Pokemon

Not by using future knowledge

[hot hamlet]

The way you know them in the future is the linchpin of the theory

[outer matrix]

Likely bc the entries are supposed to be speculative based on the (very) limited information available about them

[eternal timber]

There’s no real evidence you know more than the basics when you get isekaied

[clear lichen]

Eternamax Eternatus' dex entry is weird

It states that it has infinite amounts of energy and warps spacetime as a result

[eternal timber]

You help the professor study the Pokemon the old fashioned way, by bullying magikarp

[clear lichen]

And seeing that it's an unobtainable dex entry without hacking, you'd assume it's just wrong

But there is a scene that can be cited as evidence

[eternal timber]

Idk, eternatus is basically godlike power

But that power is leaking everywhere causing the dynamax phenomenon

[clear lichen]

I love how the use the word overload in the non insane dex entry

For those who don't know, Eternamax Eternatus can invest a specific amount into one defence to overflow the defence

[eternal timber]

Plus the max raid dens are basically warping spacetime

[clear lichen]

And that makes it take next to no damage from that type

This isn't a problem outside of hacked formats as it is unobtainable

In hacked formats it becomes easily the most broken Pokemon to ever exist but even without the overflow, I feel like the outcome would be exactly the same

[eternal timber]

Tera raid dens also warp space time but thats a different energy souce

[clear lichen]

255/250/250 bulk lmfao

You can tell it wasn't meant to be obtainable

[eternal timber]

Anyway unovan poketneed more love in if, fairies need more love in if, and i personally want kitties and zangoose/seviper

[clear lichen]

Blissey's special bulk is 255/135 for reference

[eternal timber]

To be on topic for a minute lol

[clear lichen]

To be on topic as well, I need to remind everyone that outside of randomisers Fairy is more common than Dragon

Since you won't really find a wild Legendary out of nowhere or anything

[eternal timber]

We have every pseudo line

[clear lichen]

Kommo-O

Which is exactly why we need Kommo-O in, that and because it's peak

[eternal timber]

We dont have good fairies for head fusions except sylveom

Sylveon is nice but variety is important

[clear lichen]

There are 21 fully evolved Dragons and 10 of them are Legendaries

💀

[eternal timber]

How many fairies

[clear lichen]

I think like 12 fully evolved

Let me recount real quick

[clear lichen]

(None are legendaries notably)

[eternal timber]

And most of them are secondary type fairy

Well yeah, legends didn’t get retroactive type changes

[clear lichen]

Fairy had only existed for 2 generations at this point

So most Fairies were ones that had the type added to them

[eternal timber]

And we only have retroactive fairies and mimikyu

[clear lichen]

Lunala should've been a Fairy/Ghost type

I will die on this hill

[eternal timber]

And sylveon

We have 2 fairies designed with the type in mind

[clear lichen]

Lunala does not learn Psychic by level up in Gen 7

This is bullshit why is it Psychic/Ghost

[eternal timber]

While clefairy line was made to be fairies, they weren’t designed to be fairy type

[clear lichen]

Fairy is the moon type

[eternal timber]

Because the whole line is psychic for some reason

[clear lichen]

Why isn't Lunala Fairy type

[clear lichen]

They could've easily like not made the entire line Psychic

[eternal timber]

Eh, fairy isnt the moon type

[clear lichen]

Name a moon related move that isn't Fairy type or Cresselia signature

[eternal timber]

Dark and psychic have been assigned to the moon but the only moon fairy i can think of is a retroactive one

[clear lichen]

I guess Blood Moon?

[eternal timber]

Lunatone

[clear lichen]

That doesn't exist yet though

[clear lichen]

My favourite Pokemon move

Lunatone

[eternal timber]

You didn’t say move

[clear lichen]

I did?

"Name a moon related move that isn't Fairy type or Cresselia signature"

[eternal timber]

Oh, you did

I was thinking Pokemon themes

[clear lichen]

Lunatone could've been changed to Fairy type too honestly

[eternal timber]

Eh, they seem to like psychic for space

[clear lichen]

It's like Gamefreak went halfway making Moonlight a Fairy move and adding Fairy to a lot of earlier Moon related Pokemon like Clefable and Wigglytuff

[eternal timber]

Deoxys and elgyem have jt tko

[clear lichen]

Then got lazy and gave up

[eternal timber]

Im not sure if jiggly line has a moon connection

[clear lichen]

(And also making Moonblast a Fairy move)

[clear lichen]

Moon stone evolution

Close enough

Nidoking's already a dual type

They wouldn't replace a dual type would they?

[eternal timber]

Skitty

[clear lichen]

Lunatone isn't Fairy either

I suspect that's about where they kinda just

Gave up

Somewhere about there

[eternal timber]

I’m saying they didn’t make the moon stone evo cat a fairy

[clear lichen]

Yes I can tell

But like I said, that feels like about where they gave up

Umbreon also notably wasn't a moon stone evolution yet

I think it was a moon stone evolution in like

[eternal timber]

Isnt moon stone the only non elemental evo stone in gen 1

[clear lichen]

Colosseum

And maybe Gens 8 and 9 but I forgot

[eternal timber]

I doubt jigglypuff evolved because of moon, i think it was just because it was the only stone

[clear lichen]

They could've made it a not stone evolution idk

[hot hamlet]

Okay. Elgyem and Beheeyem.
What sort of sprites could you see using those given they are based on alien imagery of the 50’s?

[eternal timber]

I’m not an alien buff

[clear lichen]

A lot of alien movie references

Probably

[eternal timber]

It would have to be specific eras of alien

We cant just throw any alien at a wall and call it elgyem

[clear lichen]

(As in extraterrestrials not specifically Alien)

[hot hamlet]

I’d be very interested in sprites that used them as inspiration.

[twin phoenix]

ET?

[eternal timber]

I thibk et is the wrong era

[hot hamlet]

Could do some MIB stuff too

[twin phoenix]

Oh, hmm..

[clear lichen]

You know they really named a lot of fictional aliens after what people call aliens in the first place

[twin phoenix]

I'm not familiar with that, then. 😦

[gray vine]

?

[eternal timber]

I’m not sure what the 50s era alien stuff was but i don’t think many color movies by Spielberg were coming out then

[clear lichen]

E(xtra)T(errestrial), Alien

[twin phoenix]

Would be cool to fuse Elgyem and Magnezone to get guys in flying saucers.

[hot hamlet]

Elgyem is LGM or Little Green Men.
Beheeyem is BEM or Bug Eyed Monster.
Both pretty interchangeable names for black and white alien movies

[clear lichen]

That's pretty much it but still

[eternal timber]

Yeah, my only knowledge is that thats an older era of aliens than i pay attention to

[twin phoenix]

Marvin the Martian reference? (He first appeared in 1948)

[clear lichen]

Extraterrestrial and alien aren't exactly movie only terms for aliens either

[hot hamlet]

I’d like to think you could do monsters hiding in trench coats given Beheeyem’s shape and large hat-shaped head

[eternal timber]

I think marvin is too friendly and goofy but maybe the right fusuon material

[hot hamlet]

Much like monsters that hid in similar ways back them

[gray vine]

Moo!

[eternal timber]

Ok i should probably sleep, i have work in 9 hours

[gray vine]

9 hour sleep damn

I have work in 5 hours I am slowly getting ready to sleep

[eternal timber]

Sleep is important amd most people need like 8 and a half hours a night

[molten latch]

Goodnight

I think

[eternal timber]

Btw my nuzlocke thinks it’s 2011

[gray vine]

That seems alot

I haven't slept more then like 4 hours (outside of free days where I sometimes sleep uo to 20 hours) a day

[clear lichen]

Sounds like sleep deprivation

[hot hamlet]

4-5 for me. I’m fine if I get 5, but any earlier and I take forever to start up.
Dunno the last time I felt well rested though

[small tiger]

Some people practice only 3 hours of sleep spread into 6 30 minute naps evenly spread out per day

[hot hamlet]

I can’t do that due to a 10hr shift

[snow scroll]

A = εcl
A (Absorbance)
ε (Molar Absorption Coefficient)
c (Molar Concentration)
l (Optical Path Length)

ε = 0.020
c = 55.5 mol/L
l = 4.82803 km = 482803 cm

A = εcl
A = (0.020)(55.5 mol/L)(482803 cm)
A = 535,911.33

A = log(I0/I)
I0 (Incident Light)
I (Transmitted Light)

Let us assume that the visible light we see from Lanturn is 60 W (watts)

A = log(I0/I)
535,911.33 = log(I0/60W)
10^535,911.33 = I0/60W
I0 = 600^535,911.33 W

In comparison, let's look at some example values in joules and watts.
For reference, 1 watt is equal to 1 joule per second.

Energy released by a 1-megaton hydrogen bomb: 4 x 10^15 J/s
Energy released by the Sun per year: 10^34 J/s
Luminosity of the Milky Way galaxy: **5.4 x 10^36 J/s **
Energy released by a quasar per second: 10^39 J/s
Average luminosity of a supernova: 10^45 J/s

lanturn destroys everything within a few galaxies' range

and it's not even close

[clear lichen]

Gg

Lanturn is built different

I see what people mean by blow up the observable universe now

[snow scroll]

these numbers are unimaginably high

like

we've likely struck Planck temperature with lanturn's output

[clear lichen]

Isn't that somewhat close to 10^30mil

Or am I stupid

And reading wrong

[snow scroll]

(this is the highest possible temperature anything can reach, before the laws of physics begin to break down)

this is just with plain heat

no fancy singularities or abnormal curvature of spacetime

Lanturn's light not only burns the sky

but the numbers that the universe relies on to function

[clear lichen]

If I'm reading it correctly and calculating correctly it's about 10^32 million

Is that right?

It seems hmmm

A bit big

That's an underexaggeration

[snow scroll]

it's 1.42×10^32 Kelvin

so

[clear lichen]

I'm extremely tired though I can't be trusted to math

[snow scroll]

easily achievable with our current numbers

[clear lichen]

I'm talking about 600^535911

[snow scroll]

oh, that

[clear lichen]

Hold up let my try to actually remember

Like how to do math and shit

I dont think I can find a calculator that would help with this actually

I'm just gonna have to remember the fundamentals

[molten latch]

What are we talking about again?

[clear lichen]

I'm sure I've learnt how to calculate this before but I can't quite remember

[clear lichen]

About how Lanturn breaks the laws of physics

[molten latch]

I see

So. . . Chandelure is also from my team.

[clear lichen]

Yeah no my brain is too tired to try to relearn math

It's a big number

That's all you need to know

[molten latch]

Ye

[snow scroll]

lanturn's universe-destroying feats

[molten latch]

I see

[snow scroll]

tbh

i don't think 1 billion lions can do much against this one

[molten latch]

Anyways, any pokemon vote discussions?

[snow scroll]

not really

[molten latch]

Ok

[clear lichen]

Fun fact: When I tried to find the exact value of 600^535911

The calculator told me it was infinite

It's uhh

Big

[molten latch]

Yikes

[clear lichen]

Man I wish it was bug

Imagine an AG bug type that'd be hilarious

It obviously isn't quite infinite

But it's big

That's a fact

[molten latch]

Idk whats the best mon to fuse anymore.

Both in the votes and in general

[clear lichen]

For reference, 10^10 is 100000000000

Unless I typed too many times

[molten latch]

I see

[clear lichen]

Power is how many times you multiply a number against itself

[molten latch]

Ok

[clear lichen]

So 600^535911 is 600 multiplying by itself 535911 times

Which is a lot

[molten latch]

You said you're tired of calculating.

🤔

[clear lichen]

This isn't quite calculation

This is just explaining how things work

My brain earlier was just fucking bricked and mistook the power symbol for a multiplication symbol

Because I'm stupid

Multiplication results in far smaller numbers than power

10×10 is only 100, everyone knows that

10×10 would be 10^2

And well I already typed 10^10

[molten latch]

Ok

[clear lichen]

Point is, Lanturn destroys universes

At least, according to its dex entires

[molten latch]

Should I play pokemon blue nuzlocke?

[hot hamlet]

Good for it. Let’s move on. Magcargo is as hot as the sun yet burns nothing and can be pet

[molten latch]

I'm speechless

[clear lichen]

So I think we can safely say that either the laws of physics don't exist or this is simply incorrect

[hot hamlet]

Discuss

[dusty arrow]

hiii squidwaard

[clear lichen]

Honestly petting any Pokemon visibly on fire already makes no sense

[hot hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/slugma-slugmasaturday-gif-25281966

[dusty arrow]

im curious
whaddat

[molten latch]

I've already voted Crawdaunt

[molten latch]

Flannery best girl

[clear lichen]

TLDR: Shining light so brightly that it shows for 3 miles through water

[dusty arrow]

i dont have a pizza on mobile sorry
but ill give one to you later

[hot hamlet]

With apparent nerve damage if she can’t feel that

[molten latch]

Oof

Still

[dusty arrow]

interesting

[clear lichen]

You can also pet Magcargo, Slugma etc in game

I think the Pokemon world is just immortal

[hot hamlet]

Meanwhile

https://tenor.com/view/slugma-slugmasaturday-gif-25281968

[clear lichen]

If you can touch lava with no side effects

[dusty arrow]

but you cant pet pichu/pikachu/raichus cheeks..

[hot hamlet]

NO YOU CANNOT

[clear lichen]

Oh

Damn I was kinda expecting you to be able to

[hot hamlet]

Flannery is inhuman

[clear lichen]

How about the Gen 7 system?

Can you touch it there?

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/oras-pokemon-oras-pokemon-alpha-sapphire-oras-pokemon-alpha-sapphire-gif-13462167070468658707

[hot hamlet]

No gif of it

[clear lichen]

We need to see how strong the protagonists are comparitively

[molten latch]

Goober

[dusty arrow]

i mean one crosses dimensions and the other fights a life/death god

[clear lichen]

We also have squaring up with Time and Space

As well as a fraction of God's power

[hot hamlet]

Gen 9 falls off cliffs, reaches max speed, phone acts as an immovable rod that breaks their fall, no lasting damage due to inertia. DISCUSS

[molten latch]

Funny that you can fuse Lileep and Slugma together to kill Koga

[hot hamlet]

Hisui can take hits from anything up to three times

[dusty arrow]

pla protag is the weakest because fall damage

[clear lichen]

And by squaring up I don't mean with Pokemon

I mean with fucking herbs

[hot hamlet]

Tanking hyper beams is not to be ignored

[dusty arrow]

true

[clear lichen]

You throw herbs at their faces and they get subdued

What the heck

[dusty arrow]

do the gen 1/2 protags have any feats

[clear lichen]

They're supposedly enjoying it but idk if I threw many things at something's head and they're physically dizzy I'd think I may have accidentally caused lasting brain damage

[dusty arrow]

well i mean red climbed a mountain with no proper gear and stayed up there for who knows how long with no cold protection (other than a fire type)

[clear lichen]

Oh yeah and tanking Draco Meteors, Hyper Beams, Shadow Forces etc

And Judgments

[hot hamlet]

Unless you count extreme cold as I think Seafoam exists then, but no extreme heat or such.
They do get it all done in a day based on there being no night

[dusty arrow]

gen 3 (rse only, no oras) stands close to groudon with no protection right?

[hot hamlet]

Also Red was on Mt. Silver for 3 years based on vanishing shortly after becoming champ

[hot hamlet]

Also a fight on a volcano sans protection where the villains were trying to make it blow its top and lava was close enough to see

[clear lichen]

So basically most of the protagonists are stacked

[dusty arrow]

the gen 3 protag also can breathe underwater forever due to dive

[hot hamlet]

Five to bottom of ocean without gear

[clear lichen]

Protagonist moment

[hot hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-let-them-fight-fight-ken-watanabe-watanabe-gif-5687182

[dusty arrow]

what about the gen 5 protag?

[hot hamlet]

Movie star

[clear lichen]

Idk

[hot hamlet]

They survived 15 mins of fame

[clear lichen]

I think we should've let Kyurem Glaciate them

So that we could see

[dusty arrow]

true.....

[hot hamlet]

With rep intact

[dusty arrow]

true
bring ghetsis back

does gen 8 have any decent feats?

[clear lichen]

They're the main protagonist they'd tank

[hot hamlet]

They survive quicksand traps and falling onto stone from said traps

They were near Volcarona who replaced the sun in a legend

[dusty arrow]

i mean gen 8 characters all withstand immense amount of radiation (dynamax energy = radiation) with no adverse effects

[clear lichen]

They've stood through Eternamax Eternatus bending spacetime with sheer energy in front of their very own eyes and seem to be basically not effected mentally or emotionally whatsoever

If that counts

[dusty arrow]

oh yeah that too

[hot hamlet]

Formal training in a martial arts dojo

[clear lichen]

Just complete apathy

[hot hamlet]

They can fight

[dusty arrow]

they ate an entire thing of radiation soup (dmax energy = radiation, max soup) and withstood decent cold (crown tundra)

[hot hamlet]

Nah. They have expressions. But it’s just smile or open mouth, wide eye.

GEN7 had the permanent smile

[dusty arrow]

gen 8 female protagonist also has the powers of scotland

[hot hamlet]

Am I gonna be compiling another feats list?

[dusty arrow]

maybe

[clear lichen]

You don't need to if you don't want to

[hot hamlet]

I still haven’t finished the Dragon Quest protag one!

Been putting that off since December

[dusty arrow]

what about the gen 4 protagonist btw?

[clear lichen]

We all know that tanking Arceus Judgment, Draco Meteor, Shadow Force etc is already enough to put LA protag at number 1

[clear lichen]

If theories about the L:A protagonist being the Sinnoh protagonists are true, they're tied for 1st

[hot hamlet]

Survived Distortion World, Encountered Hearran in his volcano home.

[dusty arrow]

oh yeah true

[clear lichen]

Otherwise I'd put them slightly below

[compact orbit]

Hey, be grateful: at least it’s not a list of the other spelling of that word

[hot hamlet]

Accomplishments?

[compact orbit]

Uh, no

[hot hamlet]

Then YOU mispelt!

[compact orbit]

I said spelling, not.. whatever, it was a lame attempt at a feet joke

[hot hamlet]

Phonetics

We forgot Kalos lol

[molten latch]

Baguette

[hot hamlet]

Idk if anything stands out except the ice cave

[clear lichen]

Does standing close to Yveltal/Xerneas have any adverse effects in the game canon?

[hot hamlet]

Not unless they die/hatch

[dusty arrow]

i would say
pla + gen 4
gen 8 (female, scottish powers)
gen 7
gen 1
gen 9
gen 3
gen 2
gen 8 (male)
gen 6
gen 5 (no notable feats)

[molten latch]

Are you guys talking about trainers?

[hot hamlet]

Gen 9<gen 1?

[dusty arrow]

power scaling

[molten latch]

Oof

[dusty arrow]

they dont really do much, they let koraidon do most of the work, and the rotom phone is magic

[hot hamlet]

Gen 5.2 protags can dive indefinitely. Only problem is they can’t withstand the currents

[clear lichen]

By the time Red climbs a mountain he isn't a protagonist anymore

Checkmate

[hot hamlet]

Still think the cliff fall and sudden stop not breaking anything is worthy

[dusty arrow]

and red has infinite energy

[dusty arrow]

fair enough

[clear lichen]

???

Bro thinks he's Eternatus

[hot hamlet]

I seriously can’t think of anything 7 is notable for outside “climbed an ice mountain”

Ultra Space is protective gear

[clear lichen]

Yup

[molten latch]

Bruh you mispelt that

Xanoreally

[hot hamlet]

Fat thumb

[molten latch]

Saem

[dusty arrow]

how would you guys do the list then

[clear lichen]

I wouldnt because it's silly

All I know is that PL:A is probably at the top

[hot hamlet]

Idk I haven’t compiled all the info we threw out into an ordered list

[clear lichen]

I know we only squared up and took hits from a "hand" of God, so to speak

[hot hamlet]

Oh there’s one!
6 wears a radioactive rock on their wrist for most of their journey without consequences

[clear lichen]

But I feel like the metaphorical hand is probably still one of if not the strongest Pokemon around

Do Z Crystals count as radioactive rock

AKA: Is Necrozma radioactive?

[hot hamlet]

Idk if they do. Ik Mega Stones are radioactive fallout from the AZ stuff.
Dynamax is Eternatus radiation
And Terrastalizing is the turtle whose name eludes me

Also radioactive

[tired kraken]

Terapagos

[hot hamlet]

Ye

[clear lichen]

I think Z Crystals count as radioactive

It's hard to tell though

[hot hamlet]

We’ve been radioactive since the switch to 3D???

[clear lichen]

Technically a lot of things are radioactive

It's just how dangerous the level of radiation is

Which we have 0 clue about

So idk if it can be listed as a feat

[hot hamlet]

But we’ve been wearing radioactive jewelry since the 3D

[clear lichen]

For any of them

Technically phones are radioactive

But you don't see people dying from phones

Or being close to them at least

[hot hamlet]

Mega stones are radioactive enough to cause changes in mons. Terrastal too. Dynamax is apparently an illusion.

According to lore

[clear lichen]

I mean dying from being bludgeoned by a phone has probably happened

[dusty arrow]

gen 1: infinite energy (no day/night, assumed to take place in one day), fast speed on account of one day going across a region, high endurance (climbed a mountain with no gear), cold endurance (3+ years at a mountain with only a fire type as heat)

gen 2: more or less the same feats as gen 1, i would say slightly weaker

gen 3: many of the same feats as the previous two, infinite oxygen and withstands deep pressure of the ocean, stands next to groudon without any armor

gen 4: also the pla protag, number 1

gen 5: no notable feats

gen 6: radioactive bracelet with no side effects, stood next to a life/death god (maybe a feat?)

gen 7: (possibly) radioactive bracelet, crossed dimensions, climbed mountain with no gear

gen 8 (female): scottish

gen 8 (male): knows how to fight (martial arts), withstands and consumes high amounts of radiation (and also bracelet), can lift heavy things with ease (dmax pokeball is presumably heavy), didnt care about emax eternatus' reality bending, decent cold resistance

gen 9: can withstand high falls and then stopping abruptly, high stealthiness (when in tall grass), decent cold resistance, climbed mountains

[clear lichen]

Dying from a phone's radioactivity almost certainly hasn't

[simple gulch]

vote for pant

[clear lichen]

Also assuming it takes place in 1 day because there's no day/night cycle is stupid

[dusty arrow]

someone said that before

cant remember who

it was someone earlier in this chat-

[clear lichen]

And technically by the time Red goes to freeze on a mountain he isn't a protagonist anymore but that one's more of a nitpick than actual complaint

[hot hamlet]

2 has a day/night so definitely weaker.
3 lost the day/night but the teams’ dialogues imply it is over several days

[dusty arrow]

good to know

[hot hamlet]

Also

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-im-scottish-blue-ranger-scottish-scotland-gif-26382850

[dusty arrow]

also bea fights machamp

[hot hamlet]

This was his answer to what he brings to the team btw

[clear lichen]

They never said she wins those battles tbf (at least I don't think they do)

[hot hamlet]

They said she spars with him

[clear lichen]

Machamp does punch things over the horizon tbf

[hot hamlet]

Oh there’s a feat!
Gen 9 has a formal education

[clear lichen]

So living a singular punch is impressive already

[dusty arrow]

he also moves mountains

[clear lichen]

I still find it funny how Gigalith absorbs solar energy to fire mountain destroying lasers

But it doesnt have Solar Power

Has low SpA

And has Sand Stream

[dusty arrow]

doea it get solar beam....

i think all of the protags have near infinite strength with the amount of items their bags hold

[clear lichen]

The earlier gens don't have infinite bags

[dusty arrow]

neither does pla

[clear lichen]

True

PL:A is the endurance fighter

They will never die

Even after getting directly beaten the crap out of by Pokemon they only just fall unconscious

[dusty arrow]

pla has a high regenerative factor i should probably add

[clear lichen]

Because they're built different

[hot hamlet]

Protag literally too angry to die

[dusty arrow]

im heading to bed now

i couldnt sleep before but now i feel tired

good night chat

[hot hamlet]

Paldea is considered a rising prodigy though. Top champ of their school in a few months, then wiped the floor with Blueberry after they had already weeded out the weakest members, then went on to face off against guest gym leaders. All with ease according to people’s dialogue.
And they also shut down the Sada/Turo AI which had analyzed and built itself on videos of all regional championships from the past several years.

And by regional, they imply global

[molten latch]

Funny sandwich loving bike dragons go brrrr

[inland geyser]

I should do the cape bit as black too and add panda ears

[twin phoenix]

I'm not that great with the buff physique, but here is my attempt at a buff butler Gothitelle~
Gunna study more goth fashion to add more details if it is possible. Like some Victorian pattern on the suit fabric.

[molten latch]

Amazing

Is that Gothichoke?

[twin phoenix]

Yeah, it is.

[molten latch]

Kudos

[twin phoenix]

The butler part wasn't my idea, I just wanted to see a buff Gothitelle.

[molten latch]

Coolio

Do am interested for more fusions

I really do wonder if Lurantis gets a spotlight

https://tenor.com/view/lurantis-gif-24017255

[twin phoenix]

I'm advertising Gothitelle for the time being, but Lurantis has my support!

[molten latch]

Indeed

[stuck bane]

Honestly I’d be happy with lurantis, it’s right behind Golisopod so it still has a decent shot especially if opinions have changed since the last vote. Contrary and has spriter potential with a disguise theming (plant pretending to be a charizard, etc.)

And obv mantis fusions but it’d be cool if spriters treated it as the pretender the plant actually is

[twin phoenix]

The main reason I want Lurantis is that I like the design: its parts and what they add to another mon's look. Being pink is a bonus.

[stuck bane]

Lurantis design is also an easy 3, I liked it when i first saw it and it’s probably the only 3 on my list that has been uninfluenced by any voting discussions on this channel and has the best shot at winning.

[molten latch]

Indeed

Lurantis FTW

[finite reef]

Contrary go brrrrrr

[molten latch]

What?

[stuck bane]

Lurantis: adds more grass types, and the only grass type with contrary besides Serperior, with good attack, defense, and special defense, also brings the unique move solar blade, and is the only pure grass type to learn leafage, and can bring cool Mantis and pants fusions, as well as disguise ones (plant pretending to be a charizard, etc.)

It gets contrary

If it got on the special vote, it might be able to compete with Slurpuff, having spriter reasons and competitive reasons

[twin phoenix]

It has a big bow, a great color scheme, and ruffles.

[stuck bane]

Does it have a bow? Or am I blind? (Or are you talking about Gothitelle?)

[molten latch]

On her back

[stuck bane]

Oooooo I see, I thought those were meant to mimic mantis wings

[molten latch]

I think it does

[stuck bane]

Yeah spriters could also do fun stuff with that

[molten latch]

The colors are also pink and vibrant

I like it

But its either down to choices

Either Aesthetics or Variety.

The Elemental Monkes have more variety, but lacks the Aesthetics

Lurantis, Gothitelle and others that are Stylish have good aesthetics, but the variety fades off after.

[stuck bane]

Honestly. I only rep monkeys because they’re unova. If they weren’t I probably wouldn’t care for them much, and know deep down it’s fair to hate them

[molten latch]

Yeah

I feel bad for Simisear despite Simisage and Simipour have better design.

I know Simipour looks so goofy, because he's supposed to be laid back

[stuck bane]

Yeah didn’t simisear get rated the least popular of all time of something?

What’s worse is I think (I’m not casting wall of text again dw) that simisear has nothing mechanically either, I think pour and sage bring gluttony to their respective typings and some unique moves, but simisear competes with heatmor for gluttony and doesn’t bring many moves other fire types don’t already know

The monkeys are held back significantly by simisear

[molten latch]

Yeah

Poor Simisear

[stuck bane]

simisear is also the only pure fire type with access to acrobatics, and the only fire type with access to fling naturally, and the only pure fire type with access to natural gift naturally, and the only fire type with access to play nice, and the only fire type with access to recycle naturally, and the only pure fire type with access to scratch

I mean, acrobatics can be nice on fire type head or body depending on fusion partner, other than that the other moves are either niche or early game

[velvet root]

Greetings

Anything new

?

[molten latch]

Nope

But we're discussing which pokemon does matter

Its either Aesthetics or Variety

[molten latch]

What do YOU think?

[velvet root]

In Infinite fusion its definetly aesthetic
Even more if they bring something new for example new Animals
Goat, Weasel or Eel
But also if they have something you can work with, a Bush you can change to other stuff, a banner like on Chimecho and stuff like that

So def Aesthetic for me

Like who cares if we get Dustox and with that a third moth
All 3 have hella diffrent asthetics

[molten latch]

I understand

Guess Lurantis takes the cake

(Same goes as Gogoat, they get to share the cake)

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-boom-knuckles-approved-approved-stamp-i-approve-gif-10897403971127807694

Talking about it

[plucky carbon]

Is Ceruledge on the list? That'd make for some banger fusions.

[velvet root]

We have a meme for those questions

[plucky carbon]

Sorry I've only just started playing again recently. Haven't been active in the server so I didn't know.

[lusty vine]

IM BACK FOR THE 🐢 VOTE!! LETS GO TORKOAL AND TIRTOUGA!!!

[lusty vine]

As much as I find these funny, eventually we’re gonna pester you guys into Gen 8 so we can get our drednaw on

[brisk vessel]

The game doesn't support pokemon past gen 7 sadly

The PEAKTERNAGOATUS dream is dead,,,

[dim sparrow]

new day, new sprites :>

[dim sparrow]

😔

[half needle]

hello chat

remember these are the ones im NOT using so feel free to use this for anything

[dim sparrow]

I voted it at least 2, maybe 3 (I forgot)

superpower, overheat, leaf storm, draco meteor, close combat, v-create, hammer arm

Superpower already being learnt by Malamar

[plucky carbon]

If i had to pick one I'd probably pick either the vikavolt line or jangmo-o line

[deft obsidian]

I flipped my phone to read that

[civic harness]

Hello there

[acoustic tartan]

It’s truly the GOAT

[half needle]

blehhhhh

[acoustic tartan]

A remainder for y’all to give scraggy a 3

[eager jungle]

and eelektross a 3 too

[acoustic tartan]

Electross is already a 3 for me

[molten latch]

Skitty FTW

We vote 4 skitter

[dim sparrow]

babyy

[silent acorn]

Ayyyyy

Lilligang lilligang

[dim sparrow]

:>

[next sapphire]

omg

that plushie is too cute

[next sapphire]

venofluff

[molten latch]

[next sapphire]

puts venom that tickles opponents

and drops attack and special attack n accuracy

no other use

:]

[next sapphire]

wait a min

saber ?

that would mean...

they're spreading

[molten latch]

What?

[south ferry]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[silent acorn]

Red sabah

[vestal wharf]

How long were the starters even delayed for?

[silent acorn]

9 years

[vestal wharf]

Include piplup and I'll vote

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/forever-sandlot-the-sandlot-gif-13526090

we honestly don't know, Frog is well aware that we want the remaining starter mons, but those will need a bit more fanfare

[dim sparrow]

but pipplup is in the game :>

[vestal wharf]

I know

[silent acorn]

It's not fanfare is that people want them all now

And like that ain't reasonable

[prime dust]

i think they wanted to see a sprite that was piplup fused with swoobat

[vestal wharf]

Yes

[prime dust]

no i mean he wants to do something special for them

[silent acorn]

They probably mean a sprite fusion

[prime dust]

much like how he wants to do extra stuff for things like legends/mythicals/ultra beasts

[silent acorn]

Ah classic froggo

Hitting us with that EXTRA SWAG FLEX

[vestal wharf]

I think it'll be kinda weird if they add more ultra beasts and not include solgaleo and lunala

[prime dust]

they aren't ub tho

they are leg

[vestal wharf]

Oh

[prime dust]

sol and lun are box art legendary mons

[vestal wharf]

Oh

[dim sparrow]

i could make a blind baby woobat/pipluip

[vestal wharf]

Yas

[silent acorn]

Hm... Solrock and Lunatone aren't rivals. Yet they are together

[dim sparrow]

they're counterparts

[prime dust]

^

[silent acorn]

Heatmor and Durant aren't and every other counterpart isnt either

[prime dust]

look

they both are horrible

so they stay apart

[vestal wharf]

Isn't heatmor like an ant eater or something?

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/heatmor-pokemon-gif-26640368

yes

[vestal wharf]

So how would they be counterparts

Heatmor eats durants

[dim sparrow]

weird that heatmor and durant arent together

[prime dust]

points over to the enemies that are Zangoose and Seviper

[dim sparrow]

are seviper and zangoose?

[vestal wharf]

Wait I don't understand what animal is zangoose

[prime dust]

mongoose

[vestal wharf]

Oh shit

[civic harness]

Hello there

[dim sparrow]

A goose obviously

[prime dust]

no, thankfully Pokemon hasn't done that yet

[vestal wharf]

Zangoose and seviper deserve evolutions

[prime dust]

that'd be even more powerful than Bidoof

[vestal wharf]

I'll be waiting for greninja so I can use protean oricorio

Ik kecleon exists but nah

[prime dust]

i'd rather they don't get them, last time we bugged GameFreak too much to give a mon an evo we got

https://tenor.com/view/dudunsparce-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-peak-gif-27521958

[vestal wharf]

Hey I like dudunsparce 😠

[civic harness]

Or try to convince Gamefreak to make evolutions for the pikaclone of gen 9

[vestal wharf]

I'd rather legends z-a

Bruh what if we get more paradoxes

[prime dust]

z-a is getting megas not paradox mons

and the paradox stuff only really makes sense in scarlet/violet

[vestal wharf]

True

Bruh I love paradoxes but I love Megas more

[prime dust]

the entire fan base loves megas, i think its why they brought it back

[civic harness]

The problem with Gamefreak is the time that ThePokemonCompany have to make a new gen for pokemon

[vestal wharf]

Who would hate megas?

It's every kid's dream

[terse fable]

I wonder what regional forms will get added there and which ones will have megas, could be cool

[vestal wharf]

I hope we get a regional mega empoleon

[terse fable]

that's be sickk

[prime dust]

i don't know if they will stack stuff like that

[vestal wharf]

I want empoleon, cinderace, and serperior

[vestal wharf]

True

[terse fable]

hard to say rn

[vestal wharf]

Otherwise we would have gotten mega regional slowbro

[spare shore]

golisopodo

[dim sparrow]

her eis smol

i forgot the wings how could i

Now it is presentable

[terse fable]

cuteee

[dense onyx]

We have regional mega Charizard and Mewtwo

[prime dust]

no we don't...they only have megas, not regional forms

and that weird gigantamax form but that is separate

[dim sparrow]

they have 2 megas

those are not regional megas

[prime dust]

^ it just a different stone depending on the game

[weak trellis]

late but I still mostly dislike megas for playing favorites with mons but I feel like I've been beaten down to accepting it

my gimmick order for the most part is tera <- Z-moves = megas <---- Dynamax

[sturdy frost]

I miss charizard mega y
we need another good drought setter in PIF.

That being said; torkoal is a great drought setter. hinthint

[prime dust]

yeah but single mon in this vote is a bit

highest i gave a single stage was a 2

[simple gulch]

vote for the monkies

[deft obsidian]

I was looking at screenshot and noticed I didn't voted 3 to any single stage pokemon

[hollow frigate]

I voted a few hours ago and I already forgor

[velvet root]

You can check it

[hollow frigate]

I voted 3 for Clawitzer, Golisopod, Gogoat, Ludicolo and Abomasnow

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-boom-knuckles-approved-approved-stamp-i-approve-gif-10897403971127807694

[hollow frigate]

Also zangoose and Seviper, those can have some cool fusions too

[velvet root]

Absolutly approved

10/10 3s

[hollow frigate]

Also Lunatone and Solrock, there are many cool options ngl

[velvet root]

True true

[prime dust]

i did, by giving them 0

[simple gulch]

😔 thhats 6 slots

[prime dust]

yes, but monkeys

[simple gulch]

return to monke

[molten latch]

Here's mine BTW

[prime dust]

this list has been rendered invalid by the fact the monkeys are not in the lowest tier or in their own tier at the very bottom

[molten latch]

Yeah. . . I understand that

[deft obsidian]

Seismitoad based

[weak trellis]

where's the tier maker?

[prime dust]

in the pinned comments

[molten latch]

But I'm gonna give these monkes a chance because of variety

[prime dust]

its missing a few mons from the vote

but otherwise it is accruate

[molten latch]

Wait

[deft obsidian]

Ngl, I prefer to see monkeys instead castfrom or spinda

[molten latch]

What did I miss

[prime dust]

you didn't miss anything

i meant the tiermaker list we have pinned doesn't have everything in the vote

[molten latch]

Ah ok

[prime dust]

its missing comfey and the clampearl line at minimum

[molten latch]

I even put it on regional order

Both Florgous and Furfrou may given a chance because of PL:ZA

The Cherrim line I've given then 3 because of the Gardevoir fusion that I saw before

Both Dedenne and Audino are also cute that I feel bad for not voting them on 3 so I've given them the chance.

[prime dust]

cherrim goes down a dangerous road

[molten latch]

Because Audino can be a good fusion for Madoka Meguca

And Dedenne because I've watched the anime.

[prime dust]

i'd rather leave cherrim for last no offense

i have my reason, and it is already powerful as is

[molten latch]

I see

I've voted Gogoat 3 because

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-the-goat-bigfellerjake-skippe-space-i-think-gif-26908844

[prime dust]

you have no idea what I'm talking about do you

[sharp nebula]

lilligant
thank you for your time

[civic harness]

Why

[molten latch]

Because several reason🤓👆

[silent acorn]

Only things I disagree with in F are Mr. Cent and BIGG DOGGO

[civic harness]

[molten latch]

Oh why?

[silent acorn]

Well for one... Mr. Cent

Also that jellicent actually does look like a jellyfish

It's a ghost water which is a cool type all the time except for the watet

[molten latch]

I have PTSD watching the anime because of my arch nemesis Trip. So I have my valid reason to put it on F tier.

As for Beeg Doggo

Sorry.

[velvet root]

Here have a Goat

[molten latch]

I didn't mean to vote it on low tier

Thank U

[civic harness]

Im going to find the way to change the tier list

[feral bear]

Pant

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/scraggy-gif-10636033

Anyways I put *imp magnet on 1

(D tier)

[velvet root]

I also have something for the Goat haters
Take as many as you want 🥰

[civic harness]

KAJAJAJJA

[molten latch]

I prefer exotic butters

[silent acorn]

I mean the anime is kind of ass don't you think? Black and white isnt kino

[molten latch]

But guess haters deserve it

[silent acorn]

Also I hated trip as the trival as well, mainly because he was lame

[velvet root]

Yes yes
They deserve that free candy

[molten latch]

Yeah

Sorry if I cant vote Pringles Man Higher

Sorry

[silent acorn]

But I think jellicent is a fine. On, it's like of a Drifblim one

[silent acorn]

It's OK I think it being passable is enough

[molten latch]

Yeah

[silent acorn]

Stoutlant is only second dog only to Arcanine in stats i think but I can see it

[molten latch]

The Elemental Monkes on the other hand, I have a reason to give them potential. V A R I E T Y.

[silent acorn]

I mean fair, they have different hair

[simple gulch]

slay

[molten latch]

I know it may have the starter's elements, but they have better variety over aesthetics.

Sadly Simisear falls into that category. Unlike Simisage or Simipour.

[silent acorn]

I used to think normalized would be kinda good until I realized ghost renders it pretty useless unless you have scrappy

Oh right you can only have one ability

And then Delcatty isn't strong in stats nor is it like... Particularly handy for designs. It may look that way but nope

[simple gulch]

have u seen my Tsa

[feral bear]

Yea she is a whole snacc

[silent acorn]

LILLIGANG LILLIGANG

[simple gulch]

:vv whats the censor ?

[deft obsidian]

Censored pokemon

[silent acorn]

Voting lilligang is based

[terse fable]

oh thats redacted

[simple gulch]

audiino?

[civic harness]

Poor ######

[coarse venture]

Circle gang spheal my boy.

[silent acorn]

Yeah I can't tell you because it doesn't get a mega in this

[deft obsidian]

I dono

[silent acorn]

Like that was it's main point of relevance before, the mega

[feral bear]

Idk her 😔

[simple gulch]

she is the whole dairy industry

[silent acorn]

Mega *? #(# should have been a regular evolution

[simple gulch]

she slay

[deft obsidian]

Exp farm

[silent acorn]

Strong design wasted in a Gen gimmick much like mawile and sableye's

[simple gulch]

chansey repleacement

[silent acorn]

Chansey evolves :v

Chansey be good design

Chansey can use Eviolite to be nighmare

Chansey still around 8 gens in

Chansey is already in :v

Name one thing it does that chansey or another mon doesn't do

[simple gulch]

mega chansey

[silent acorn]

What's a mega? :v

[simple gulch]

it has Regenerator

[silent acorn]

Megapotion? :v

[simple gulch]

megatron

:v it can be male

[silent acorn]

you don't say

[silent acorn]

You don't say

you don't say

[simple gulch]

i did

[silent acorn]

you don't say

[simple gulch]

typed ;v

:v why the hate

[silent acorn]

you don't say

You don't say

[velvet root]

Top tier mon here

[silent acorn]

Yeah...

Quite frankly why is it even a contest?

Why are we even discussing that, when one of them has it without a switch move

And don't you tell me normal is necessary because we barely have any

[simple gulch]

it can learn Secret Power by leveling up.

[silent acorn]

............ Any normal type fusion with Serene Grace

Plus offensive

Oh wait

Serene Grace proc

[simple gulch]

vote for the monkies

[silent acorn]

I did Thank you, vote for the Kung Fu weasel

[simple gulch]

did u voted 0

[silent acorn]

It's a sad day when monkeys outvote the pink doktor

Oh Wait that's aromatisse

[terse fable]

I like aromatisse

[silent acorn]

uh hu

[sudden jackal]

whats this?

[silent acorn]

Gesture monkeys

One vote 6 monkeys

Like if we had to get ONE line out of all of them might as well be the one that gives most things

[silent acorn]

I love getting told no, but I did make this desicion with a lot of thought, plus it ain't a 3 from me

[twin phoenix]

Unpopular opinion, but I'll take monkeys over Binacle.

[silent acorn]

Not really unpopular. I'd take binacle only for the sharp claws

Since unfortunately dusk isn't in and midday doesn't get it

Nor midnight

[twin phoenix]

Oof.

[silent acorn]

heh how fun. here is the Elemonkeys triage

[kind forum]

nice, now i can not vote them x3

[silent acorn]

ah yes. high society.

[balmy tapir]

lesgoo, hyped to see ma boi roggenrolla in the vote

gigalith fusions could be sick too ofc

[sudden jackal]

we gotta have castform be in the game think of all the weather fusions and all the adorable fusions!

[silent acorn]

honestly simipour is the white sheep of the family

[silent acorn]

Yes adorable...

[hidden relic]

I went smoller

[vestal wharf]

Noice I'll vote right now

[junior slate]

Only monke id want to see get in is darmanitan

[vestal wharf]

Fr I love simipour

And the other 2

But specifically simipour

[silent acorn]

For real the only one I hate is Simisear

Mostly for one simple reason

[vestal wharf]

Why do ppl even hate the monkeys they are actually pretty cool

[silent acorn]

In unova you only get a handful of chances to find fire pokemon

It's like the Situation in sinnoh where you only have access to infernape and rapidash in diamond or pearl

Platinum is based because it had more fire types including eevees

I never had a problem with it on sinnoh because infernape is my fav

[dim sparrow]

[silent acorn]

But unova... Well emboar isn't the most popular choice and personally that was one of the few regions where I used a water type

I actually wanted simipour instead of Simisage, because i thought it looked pretty neat and didn't have the goofy ass face Simisear has

Also like... Unova has two fire monkey things

Darmanitan is sorta gorilla ish

Personally I didn't wanna use those so I stuck with Simisear until battling N at which point I gave it the middle finger and send it back to the box

[vestal wharf]

Should I grind for monkey votes?

[silent acorn]

Nah

Simipour and Simisage are the ones pulling double duty

In fact the problem for me personally is that Journey made me reflect on my dislike of Darmanitan

Gohs darmanitan is just a goofy guy

https://tenor.com/view/superpower-pokemon-gif-13695331351953187514

Black and white really reallyyyyyy sucked at giving you fire types... Because you get Volcarona post game, you get Heatmor at Victory road and like the only real choice is Darmanitan because Reshiram is a legend in the endgame and then Victini is Locked behind a stupid event

Oh yeah

You get the chance to catch Chandelure before skyla which admittedly is one of the best choices

[simple gulch]

pokemon when bulk up

[simple gulch]

use simisear

[inland jewel]

If more people vote the monkeys then thats good

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-no-mad-angry-gif-5881426

[inland jewel]

thats means they're not last, so other pokemon can get in

[simple gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/death-note-gif-25260320

[rancid nymph]

Good thing you don’t know their real name or what they look like

[simple gulch]

i can try random name till it work

[rancid nymph]

You still need to know what they look like

[simple gulch]

do i?

[rancid nymph]

You need to be thinking about them while you write their name so that people with the same name don’t get killed

[molten loom]

Do you need to think of their physical characteristics or would thinking about their personality work?

[rancid nymph]

I don’t know, I’ve never owned a death note

[high haven]

Can somebody give me a mon that's already in the game?

[molten loom]

Mawile

[rancid nymph]

The wording in the show makes me think it’s physical characteristics though

[molten loom]

Ah need to know the face

And name

[velvet root]

Why tf do I have a art block now
rn when a great fusion can give Goat a chance

[autumn radish]

The not-so-daily reminder to vote, if you want, for Lurantis. Not only it would lead to cool mantis fusions, but there would be good access to Solar Blade and to Contrary without relying to Shuckle.

https://tenor.com/view/lurantis-gif-25238734

[kind forum]

since i havent posted it today

[weak trellis]

late but BW passively just assumes that you will be using darmantian rofl

(or chandelure sometimes)

[hot hamlet]

Even then if you didn’t find out about the special Friday Darmanitans, you lose out on a good psychic type too

[simple gulch]

@hot hamlet @craggy nexus hmm monkie

[hot hamlet]

I just meant your usual detailed style but I’ll take more band members!

[simple gulch]

eh?

[civic harness]

Macaco

[hot hamlet]

Can’t reply to it but I said:
“If you do with them what you did to Oricorio/Deoxys I will 100% change them from a 0 to a 3 ASAP”

I just meant to cool detail/sfx stuff you normally do lol

[silent acorn]

Changos

[civic harness]

Monos

[simple gulch]

:v yes ,u can also see the implement of: see no music , speak no music , hear no music

[hot hamlet]

A singer without being able to sing? Cruel but fun implementation. Also does that make Simisear Beethoven?

[simple gulch]

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/death-gif-24765699

[simple gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-druski-gif-20560325

[hot hamlet]

I’m an octopus of my word. 0->3 instantly

[grave jolt]

(sorry I didn't see it earlier)

[velvet root]

My first entry for elusive dex is WIP

[twin phoenix]

I have only two half finished ones. One because I just started and the other I lost inspiration.

That's so cute, I hope it does well~

[silent acorn]

Hmmmm not good

[hexed agate]

reminder that we love cool bugs in this household

https://tenor.com/view/iron-defence-escavalier-escavalier-uses-iron-defence-gif-24340606

[silent acorn]

It's too cute

Too squishy

[civic harness]

You guys like little poor things...

[feral bear]

Anyways

[silent acorn]

Hello juju

[potent plume]

https://tenor.com/b0xu6.gif

[small tiger]

Kabutops kinda fills that role at least visually

[civic harness]

What about this little poor thing?

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-rip-sad-sponge-bob-stephen-hillenburg-crying-sponge-bob-squidward-gif-12966776

[simple gulch]

add monkies

[small tiger]

It’s not worth it even for the cavalcade of BTD6 sprites

[simple gulch]

dart monke

[simple gulch]

but have u seen mah monkies

[small tiger]

why not use infernape more

[feral bear]

Theyre c o o l but i want them 2 be added second to last

[simple gulch]

fire fighting

[simple gulch]

so what is last?

[feral bear]

Shakira dragon

Kommo o

[simple gulch]

but these scales dont lie

[stuck bane]

Ok but simisear alone has about as many actual reasons as Luvdisc so monkeys are def above that

[silent acorn]

Ah yes... Scalies

[simple gulch]

luvdics for heart scale

[feral bear]

Iuvdisc is a kutie tbh

[silent acorn]

If you vote Kommo you are secretly a Bad Dragon >¦^]

[sullen elbow]

simisear/ machoke is also fire fighting

[stuck bane]

Getting heart scales is way easier through rock smash, there’s no point unless you can build a palworld slaughterhouse to get heart scales from them

[simple gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-discord-mod-gloobaglarb-mods-kill-him-gif-10550583729427564864

[simple gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/munchies-gif-23499045

[small tiger]

Well then it is decided

[simple gulch]

guess no monkies

[small tiger]

Yuh

Tsareena moves up a place then

[feral bear]

I voted for the monke

But it just wasnt a 3

[simple gulch]

a 0

[feral bear]

I cannot legally say

👀

[small tiger]

Was it a 2?

[clear lichen]

Yknow judging by how I woke up at 1:30 am I think I should get my shit together

[simple gulch]

so most harted mon r ludisc for valentine

[clear lichen]

Anyways instead of that it's time to continue talking about Pokemon

[small tiger]

Of course! Tsareena for food and fashion, Gourgeist for Halloween, Thanksgiving, pumpkin spice, and autumn, Seviper for Salazzle’s color palette but without the rule 2 violations (we have enough trouble with goodra)

[simple gulch]

but Tsa is rule2 wanna be too

[small tiger]

Yeah but she has bounsweet and stuff and she has apparent clothes unlike Salazzle

[simple gulch]

:v have u seen my Tsa

[small tiger]

no

I don’t think so

[high haven]

I got carried away with this one.

[twin phoenix]

Whee~

[small tiger]

Oh yeah, great sprite

[simple gulch]

Buffler

[twin phoenix]

How?!

[small tiger]

What

[neon ferry]

That's cool, man

[simple gulch]

i mean butler

[twin phoenix]

My bad, I thought it meant not buff enough.

[small tiger]

I thought it was a pun

[simple gulch]

it was

[small tiger]

[high haven]

Thanks, I was struggling on this for a while until I had an epiphany.

[neon ferry]

Screams "Cosmic Horror." Love it.

[simple gulch]

so u do concept in traditional style?

[twin phoenix]

That's so creative, ahh~

Yeah, I like doodling on paper.

[high haven]

I marked it as a spoiler since I assume some people would be uncomfortable with it

[neon ferry]

really? I don't personally see any issues with it. but hey, some people are more sensitive.

[small tiger]

I do too but I don’t have anywhere really comfortable to do it

[small tiger]

I mean we’re all adults/late teens here

[deft obsidian]

Black butler

[twin phoenix]

I don't have my own drawing table so I either use my lap while in bed or go outside to find a table.

[small tiger]

Damn, can’t stand it when my legs go numb

[twin phoenix]

Yeah, it stinks but it doesn't stop me from drawing anyway.

[small tiger]

Thankfully due to Muh dads current position I now have a Cintiq which I haven’t nearly used enough

[deft obsidian]

Pink palkia I see lilli in your name, does that stands for lilligant? 0.o