pif-hoenn-discussion

[velvet root]

Bounce and sweet
Such a pastry thing

[stuck bane]

Sweet mostly

[small tiger]

Yeah, deserts at least

[stuck bane]

And I think it’s bountiful, might be bounce tho, haven’t checked the dex

[velvet root]

In my wiki it says bounce

[deft obsidian]

That's just my skill issues But looking at food sprites make hungry , not like normal hungry, very bad feel, probably can't sprite any slurpuff.

[stuck bane]

Tsareena is nice, but I think having another fairy type head is probably more important, as much as Tsareena would bring with trop kick and dazzling 2

[small tiger]

We can have with the second vote

[spare shore]

golisopod...

pls

also how many new pokemon will be added

[small tiger]

1 or 2

[molten loom]

2 lines

[hollow creek]

Technically 4 at most

[spare shore]

tgheres so many potential pokemon and theyre all conspiring against me!!!!

[molten loom]

If monkeys win it would be 6 at once

[hollow creek]

If zangoose and seviper AND the two alolan monkeys win

[hexed agate]

Technically 11 at modt

[hollow creek]

Shit yeah

The wormadam and the monks

[stuck bane]

13, 7 burmy + 6 monkeys

[hexed agate]

You can have Burmy/Wurmple and the monkeys

[stuck bane]

We’ve been over this

[small tiger]

No

No monkeys

[hexed agate]

Only 5 with Burmy, Burmy is cosmetic

[stuck bane]

Burmy is more than wurmple, it’s only 5

[spare shore]

i need my golisopod...

[small tiger]

This will be me if Tsarenna/Gourgeist Doesn’t win

[stuck bane]

It’s not tho, the form burmy is in determines what it evolves into

Maybe frog will change it, but that’s not a guarantee yet

[hollow creek]

He’ll probably win the main vote

[molten loom]

Then go win some contests/tournaments to increase the chances

[stuck bane]

So we assume how it is in game

[half needle]

[small tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-gif-26282297

[half needle]

me if the elemental monkeys win

[half needle]

yall are off your rockers

[stuck bane]

Me if elemental monkeys win

[deft obsidian]

Yes, by looking at last year results , golisopod is popular

[stuck bane]

Laughter

Tears of joy

[deft obsidian]

I will get poke fan panpour

[simple gulch]

hard mon to sprite ngl

[half needle]

what is that a fusion of anyway

[spare shore]

i need me sum golisopod

[simple gulch]

buff Tsareena

[deft obsidian]

Yes.

[half needle]

that doesnt tell me anything

[small tiger]

I think machamp

[simple gulch]

it tell everything

[half needle]

why would she be in a sundae glass

[stuck bane]

I think kommo might still be able to win main vote since people not in the server can do that, it would’ve made last one but was vetoed

For the special vote, it’s either Golisopod who’s next in line or archeops who made raffle and spriter vote, those would be my best guesses if I had to choose

[half needle]

maybe alakazam cause of the spoon but even then that's stretching it

[simple gulch]

bc its hot

[twin phoenix]

Buff Gothitelle when?

[small tiger]

‘Cause she’s fruit themed and her first evo has sweet in its name, it’s a perfect fit for desert fusions

[simple gulch]

[small tiger]

-outside

[half needle]

you mean temperature right

[simple gulch]

yes

[stuck bane]

Gothitelle: its counterpart is already in the game, good defense, special attack, and special defense, Gothitelle lore memes, only psychic type to get shadow tag besides wobbuffet (don’t need to rely on a fusion partner for your only attacking moves), only psychic type to naturally get competitive, and the only psychic type to get frisk, also the only psychic type with access to play nice, and the only pure psychic type with access to tickle naturally, and the only pure psychic type with access to double slap, and the only pure psychic type with access to embargo naturally, and the only pure psychic type to learn fake tears naturally, and the only pure psychic type to learn feint attack, and the only pure psychic type to learn flatter naturally, it also brings goth names like gothkid, gothqueen, goth jr., etc.

[eager jungle]

embrace the eldrith !

x)

[small tiger]

Nah, Mangosteen legs all the way

[simple gulch]

:vv why do u even need doule splap

[half needle]

i genuinely do not care what moves it has i just want one thats fun to make fusions with

[hollow creek]

Hard but the payoff is huge

[stuck bane]

Early game exists

[hollow creek]

LIKE HUGEEEE

[simple gulch]

migh just use confusion

[eager jungle]

golisopod ?

[silent acorn]

@deft obsidian its ready

[hollow creek]

Not my golisopod its cristata's but yeah

[silent acorn]

Gonna slide into his dms lol

[stuck bane]

Yeah but if someone wants a psychic type fusion with good def, and they want a physical move, it’s there

[simple gulch]

how muck atk stat does she has

[simple gulch]

when collab

[twin phoenix]

👀

What kind of mon would we make?

[simple gulch]

:v being doing too many random non if

[stuck bane]

55, little higher than eelektross speed, but that wont stop someone from either fusing with something that has extremely high attack, or (her true purpose:) shadow tag as a defensive psychic type. Idk what you could do with double slap, but it’s an option for someone more creative

[simple gulch]

buff goth

[simple gulch]

skill link lol

[stuck bane]

Well if that’s what you want, there you go

[eager jungle]

all the fusions i've planned, i'll post the new version of the gif when i'll be done with the vikavolt, if you want one hint, we can say it'll be a "||future||" vikavolt ;)

[opaque ether]

Man I love this fusion.

[simple gulch]

her atk stat is abysmal, even oddish has 50 atk

[hollow creek]

And there could be even more of those

[eager jungle]

guess that pokémon x)

[hollow creek]

Pikashrew

[simple gulch]

its ninjask

[stuck bane]

It’s… a gun!

[simple gulch]

taser

[eager jungle]

but yeah, here's the palette of the head pokémon

[stuck bane]

Klinklang?

[simple gulch]

:v so stupid that vikavolt is super slow

registeel

[twin phoenix]

Absol?

[stuck bane]

Oh wait yeah that registeel

[eager jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/regi-gif-21907523

[simple gulch]

so would u take buff goth

[eager jungle]

sad that klawf isn't an option :(

[twin phoenix]

I'm thinking of what to make it wear and what to make it sit on. X.x

[simple gulch]

hermit crab

[twin phoenix]

But sure, I'll do that~

[stuck bane]

I got a crab (sort of) for you

[simple gulch]

goth butler

[eager jungle]

what's your top 3 pokémons you'll want in the game

[stuck bane]

Lilli for sure

[eager jungle]

mine is :

• Eelektross
• Minior
• gogoat or golisopod

[simple gulch]

pant pant pant

[twin phoenix]

The ones in my name.

[sterile spoke]

So we've all voted for Ribombee and Pangoro, yes? 🙂

[stuck bane]

Then probably Eelektross and archeops? Idk might be this channel bias clouding me

[stuck bane]

I gave em both 3s at least

[eager jungle]

ribombee no, pangoro yes

[gray vine]

i voted for all mons

[hexed agate]

Ofc, we love cool bugs in this household

[sterile spoke]

You are in my good books. 😄

[gray vine]

its weird how some talk like they havent

[eager jungle]

And i'm not

[simple gulch]

hey it is masked royal

[sterile spoke]

You are merely half in my good books. 😛

[stuck bane]

If you voted for all mons why vote at all you’ve changed nothing

[gray vine]

?

[silent acorn]

Shhhhhhh

[eager jungle]

pangoro would be great, imagine a triple fusion : pangoro, bewear, ursaring

[silent acorn]

They don't know the easteregg

[gray vine]

i didnt say i voted the same on all mons

just that i voted on them all

[stuck bane]

We talked about that once here hold on

[simple gulch]

we bare bear?

[eager jungle]

Panewering !

x)

[outer matrix]

any other lilligant fans here?

[gray vine]

vote does not mean setting it all to 3

[silent acorn]

Look man this is getting bad, you gonna catch this bear hands

[simple gulch]

wait there is no white bear

[deft obsidian]

Absol has lot a purple

[eager jungle]

i think i gave it a two

[silent acorn]

.. Beartic

[eager jungle]

the only white bear has a meh design imo

[sterile spoke]

You're being a pedant in a way that doesn't make much sense. 'Voted for' in the context of this channel implies giving Pokémon higher scores than one another, so that they have a higher chance of being added. 😛

[gray vine]

?

[silent acorn]

Oh hi blaq

[gray vine]

if you vote 1 on a mon you still voted

if you vote 2 and 3 you also did

[sterile spoke]

People aren't pretending that they didn't vote on anything, they're stating preferences for certain Pokémon. 😅

Hence voting 'for'. Lower scores are akin to voting 'against'. 🙂

[eager jungle]

yeah, when we use "voted for" it's "gave a 3 to"

[gray vine]

ye but saying did you vote on (Pokemon) would just mean voting for them, there is still a 1-3 that can be picked, setting a 0 means no vote

[silent acorn]

Or a 2.ya know they accumulate

[stuck bane]

I can’t find it, but I think we agreed on cubchamursa and ursagorotic as the names

[silent acorn]

1 is like pity brownie points

[gray vine]

its still a vote

[sterile spoke]

Not really, because that's just the semantics, not the pragmatics.

[hollow creek]

Turtonator
Wishiwashi
Gastrodon

[eager jungle]

if there's a "tic" it means it has beartic not pangoro

[gray vine]

considering there is a way to not vote for a mon i would say no

[sterile spoke]

If I'm in a country with a ranked vote system, and I rank them all, I didn't vote for them all. I voted for the one I gave the highest score to. 😅

[stuck bane]

Technically I also voted for everything, I just gave stuff like skuntank a 0

[gray vine]

ye

what i eman

also how rude

[sterile spoke]

Not really, that's just a case of pedantry. 😅

[stuck bane]

Yes, did you not mean a triple fusion of the bears?

[gray vine]

i love Skuntank

[silent acorn]

You vote 0

[gray vine]

i gave it a 3

[eager jungle]

pangoro, bewear, ursaring

[gray vine]

yes?

[eager jungle]

not beartic, bewear, ursaring

[stuck bane]

Oh crap bewear exists

[sterile spoke]

I think I gave Skuntank a 2. Dark-types and post Kanto Poison-types are both pretty lacking. 😛

[silent acorn]

That how you vote agaisnt with a FAT 0

[stuck bane]

I was saying Pangoro ursaring Beartic

[gray vine]

i picked for the design

[sterile spoke]

As always, type diversity played a big role in my votes. We need more Fighting-types, too. 😃

[gray vine]

Skuntank looks great and was my main mon

[stuck bane]

Ursa goro tic

[hollow creek]

REMINDER:

[eager jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/bewear-rock-gif-7886432

[stuck bane]

Pokémon by how many of each type in the game by percentage:
29/47 Fairy Types (61%)
29/48 Dark Types (60.4%)
52/97 Grass Types (53.6%)
38/77 Bug Types (49.3%)
29/56 Fighting Types (51.7%)

[eager jungle]

doesn't it have a cool ability or something like this

[silent acorn]

Why all the names seem like cult members?

[hollow creek]

My biggest "thing" I want is pokemon with both a lot of potential for head and body designs, not just one or the other

[sterile spoke]

Cute scarves and happy bees. ❤️

[stuck bane]

I mean, it’s more like a red panda because of the tail therefore…

[hollow creek]

Its kind of like counter, but a 180 base power fire type special attack

[hollow creek]

Because we all are cult members

[sterile spoke]

This was the list of Pokémon I'd have included in the last batch, so all of the ones that weren't added here got at least a 2 or above on my vote. 😄

[eager jungle]

well, it's inspired by both bear and red panda

[eager jungle]

where minior ?

[silent acorn]

Fair question do you support the Pandaboi

I do like the bears... Hmmm

[eager jungle]

where eelektross ?

[silent acorn]

I mean i have a lot of 3s honestly

[hollow creek]

bearartic is a brave pick

[silent acorn]

Has a interesting design and a not so common ability

[stuck bane]

Either way the triple bear fusion argument isn’t as easy as I thought, but you don’t get to throw away Beartic just because, it’s literally a bear

[sterile spoke]

I think I gave it a 3 in place of the Jangmo-o line. 😄

[simple gulch]

vote for pant

[silent acorn]

Hell Pringlesmon is a 3

[hollow creek]

I find its design just a bit plain imo

[sterile spoke]

IF Ice-types are sorely lacking. 😢

Less so since the last batch, but still not great. 😦

[stuck bane]

Oh hey I haven’t mentioned Beartic yet

[silent acorn]

Icecreams?

[stuck bane]

Beartic: polar bear fusions, ice beard fusions, great attack and good hp, only ice type to get swift swim, and brings the unique ability slush rush, only pure ice type to learn aqua jet, only pure ice type to learn icicle crash, and the only non-legendary ice type to learn superpower naturally, and the only pure ice type to learn thrash, and the only ice type to naturally learn charm, and the only pure ice type with access to brine, and the only ice type with access to charm naturally, and the only pure ice type with access to endure naturally, and the only pure ice type with access to flail naturally

I forgot it brings a unique ability

[hollow creek]

I would rather vanilluxe as an ice type imo

[silent acorn]

I learnt to hate Vanilluxe less and I actually can see the potential

[hollow creek]

While vanillish and vanilluxe look very simliar, going from one heads to two as well as some extra details make it fun

[eager jungle]

vanilluxe would just get eaten by every other pokémon

[simple gulch]

can u make one for luvdisc

[eager jungle]

or would make things like "rapidash flavored icecream"

[stuck bane]

Vanilluxe: ice cream fusions, good attack, special attack, and special defense, only pure ice type that gets snow warning (head and body fusions), and the only ice type to get weak armor, also the only pure ice type with access to astonish, and the only pure ice type with access to icicle spear, and the only pure ice type with access to uproar, and is also the only ice type with access to weather ball naturally

[stuck bane]

It does exist, 1s

[silent acorn]

Though admittedly Abomasnow Fire/grass or Abomasnow Water/Grass with snow warning would be fun

[hollow creek]

I would rather vanilluxe than slurpuff as a sweet pokemon

[simple gulch]

i cream

[silent acorn]

See sometimes the best thing you do to an ice type is taking the ice type away. Ironic but hey it works

[eager jungle]

did you made one for minior or eelektross ?

[sterile spoke]

If it were a two-stage line, I'd 100% agree. 🙂

[stuck bane]

Luvdisc was the easiest because IT LITERALLY ONLY HAS 2 REASONS

Alomomola: one of the highest hp stats in the game with access to regenerator, and the only water type with access to healer, and is the only water type that can learn healing wish
(Luvdisc Comparison):
Only water type with access to heart stamp, and luv/disc named fusions

[sterile spoke]

But it's not, so I don't. 😛

[hollow creek]

Since the last vote was focused on slots and a slot limit, I can understand that

[eager jungle]

oh yeah, i always forgot the middle stage of this line

[silent acorn]

Why? Just asking since it's one of the few unova mons to not evolve at 80

[simple gulch]

ah yea luvdisc evo alomomola

[silent acorn]

Why because the second is kinda copy pasty?

[hollow creek]

This isnt about IF any, she gets way too much hate, SHE, this is a girlboss

[sterile spoke]

I feel like people would have a difficult time making the members of the line distinct enough from one another. 😅

I am a certified Vanilluxe appreciator, however. 😄

[stuck bane]

I put it there as more of a comparison why Alomomola is literally twice as good but yeah

[simple gulch]

what this

[silent acorn]

Imagine like with wheezing, one head then bam! You got another head

I feel like people can do more with the two heads than gamefreak has ever done with luvdisc

[hollow creek]

A lovely creature

[silent acorn]

Hell people make it their headcannon that Luvdisc evolves through censored content

[eager jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/eelektross-pokemon-pokemon-eelektross-electricity-gif-7163802651969607389

look at how agile it is

[simple gulch]

daam it wont load

[hushed mantle]

Gourgeist mentioned 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[simple gulch]

buff elect eel when

[eager jungle]

i voted 3 on gourgeist because i want the duo trevenant/gourgeist

[simple gulch]

save for october

[hollow creek]

Gourgiest can be cool

[stuck bane]

I would also really like to see gourgeist (all forms plz )

[silent acorn]

Vote all missing duos a 3

[eager jungle]

no

x)

[hushed mantle]

I would have 3'd if we hadn't got the other 2 grass/ghost before it

But at least it has a GREAT fusion potential

[silent acorn]

You get one more eelektross ally ;}

[hollow creek]

for gourgiest bodies you can make the pumpkin into any face you want, and you make make it a rock with smoke coming out of it, thats nice

[eager jungle]

then yes

x)

[silent acorn]

A pity 2 or 1 works good

[hushed mantle]

You know what, i'm 3ing gourgeist

[eager jungle]

ngl, i think i've put two on the duos

[silent acorn]

The lilligang wants to rectify missing duos :}

[velvet root]

Are there any bases for Scraggy?

[hushed mantle]

I want a gourgeist sprite rush for october

[eager jungle]

scraggy is the ground type with pants ?

[silent acorn]

Kinda wish we could vote archeops and carracosta in a single one

[eager jungle]

if yes, then i gave it a 3

[stuck bane]

We actually have a ton of missing duos, Camerupt, Lilligant, Gothitelle, etc.

[simple gulch]

dark fight

[velvet root]

Fighting/Dark

[hushed mantle]

Fighting/dark but yeah

[eager jungle]

it's not ground ?

always thought it was ground

[velvet root]

nah
But it does fit true

[eager jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/madagscar-penguins-everything-ive-learned-is-a-lie-gif-9833861

[simple gulch]

vote for pant

[velvet root]

Should I use its normal sprite...

[stuck bane]

Look at this dude not making informed voting decisions

Scrafty: adds more fighting types and dark types, baggy pants fusions, Mohawk fusions, and is a Mon used on ash’s team, only fighting and dark type with access to shed skin, also the only fighting type to naturally get moxie, and good attack/defense/special defense, also the only dark type with access to brick break naturally, and the only dark type head with access to chip away, and the only dark type with access to facade naturally

[eager jungle]

i gave it a 3

because i love its design

[stuck bane]

It just pains my heart to think how many other people didn’t make informed voting decisions and just gave something a 0 because of a spur of the moment impulse

[hollow creek]

I will always have the memory of my scrafty 1v1-ing a mewtwo and winning because it had only psychic moves, it was the roblox pokemon game and mewtwo was giovanni's last pokemon\

So scrafty has a place in my heart

[eager jungle]

anyways, time to sleep, tomorrow i plan to go eat some kobe ramen, have a good night, day or whatever depending on your timezone and remember to vote 3 for Eelektross and the pokémons of your choices !

[stuck bane]

Gn!

[silent acorn]

To be fair we do be making the difference between egg heads who gave everything 2s and 3s and people who just gave ONE MON a 3

[stuck bane]

Yeah you’d think, but there’s so many voters who never look in this channel, we can really only sway mods and special voters

[silent acorn]

Those matter more this time anyway

[stuck bane]

But I’ll keep fighting for my unova rejects until my dying breath

[silent acorn]

They have to pick in between what wins and they have to bite their tongue with the stuff

[twin phoenix]

I gave my 3s to like 8 mons. I don't want all of them up there, some gotta be 0. :/

[silent acorn]

Atleast... Unless... Monkeys show up lol

[feral bear]

Pant

Also

[stuck bane]

I gave most 3s, and some 1-0 like skuntank and luvdisc

OH YEAH ALSO GUYS

THE CHOSEN ONE DESCENDED AND SPOKE TO ME

[silent acorn]

Degenerates unite!

Seriously tho anime folk like humanoids more I think. Let's people make Anime references

[stuck bane]

She came back for 5 seconds, delivered her message, and then left forever

[tired kraken]

Sad Gourgeist isn't on here

[silent acorn]

What in the eight hells?

She is back?!

[twin phoenix]

Yeah, no Swanna in that picture either. 😦

[stuck bane]

She was back

[feral bear]

Swanna is still doing her paperwork to join, her clearances are taking a while

[silent acorn]

To be fair it can be princess's or prince

[stuck bane]

Joe Biden voice: SWANNAAA!!!

Swanna: good speed, can bring swan fusions, the only water type with big pecks, and is the only fully evolved flying type with access to hydration, the only non-legendary water type head to learn defog, and the only water type with access to brave bird, and the only water type with access to feather dance naturally

[feral bear]

And im sorry but gourgeist could never

[sterile spoke]

That's a lot of text for something that's not Ribombee or Pangoro. 😛

[stuck bane]

Unova has no other defenders, I have to, last vote proved people love your 2 mons generations

[feral bear]

Ribombee is girlypop but she definitely has a seat at the table

[sterile spoke]

It's more that there are barely any Pokémon from Gens VI and VII in the game. 😅

[sterile spoke]

I will accept this. 😄

[eager jungle]

I think I'll stay a bit before going

[stuck bane]

Wb

[twin phoenix]

There aren't many Kalos mons to begin with. 😦

[sterile spoke]

Primarina can't get added just yet, though. It wasn't in the vote. 😦

[eager jungle]

[silent acorn]

That moment when Gen5 brought the most divisive designs AKA its not boring

[sterile spoke]

True, many of them are really solid fusion material. 😄

Slurpuff, for instance, would be amazing in fusions. 🙂

[feral bear]

Speaking of ribombee

[twin phoenix]

And a lot of the design space went to megas and regional forms which I think becomes alts.

[feral bear]

Have a solgabee

[silent acorn]

It's a tourney candidate so I believe ya

[eager jungle]

I'll love to see the djinns (NOT YOU ENAMORUS) in for cool legendary encounter and cool triple fusion

[silent acorn]

Do black magic on froggo and we shall see lol

[feral bear]

I would like to see the djinns in for other reasons but that is between me and my God

[sterile spoke]

They'd probably just end up being recolours with swapped tails. 😦

[stuck bane]

Permission to cast wall of text even though they’re not in the vote?

[hollow creek]

What about vanilluxe is that a girlboss

[silent acorn]

I mean... Eh screw ir go for it

[stuck bane]

Wait for it

Gotta see if there’s any opposition

And

[eager jungle]

Nah, and if people do recolor I'll recolor them to dead

[stuck bane]

I think we’re good

[feral bear]

Shes like a step below robombee - girlypop, but she gets the newsletter every month

[velvet root]

Hello there

[stuck bane]

I CAST WALL OF TEXT

Genies: all therian forms can make cool fusions, and thundurus serves as the only flying type with volt absorb, tornadus and thundurus bring great special attack while therian tornadus brings great speed, only flying types to naturally get prankster, thundurus is only electric type to get prankster, and the only electric type to get defiant, landorus brings great attack, and landorus is the only flying type to get sand force (also gives immunity to sandstorm despite no longer being a ground type), and they could potentially bring a triple fusion (or 2 if we want to go crazy), tornadus is also the only pure flying type with access to astonish, and also the only pure flying type with access to hammer arm, thundurus is also the only electric type with access to hammer arm naturally, landorus is also the only ground and flying type with access to block naturally, and the only flying type with access to fissure, and the only flying type with access to mud shot naturally, and is also the only flying type with access to rock tomb naturally, and the only flying type with access to bulldoze naturally, and the only flying type with access to earth power naturally, and the only flying type with access to earthquake naturally

[eager jungle]

[tired kraken]

My biggest hopes are for Gourgeist (huge Halloween sprite potential), Heliolisk (yeah, bias), and the Legendaries (cool designs and fusion potential, plus Legends ZA in the future)

[silent acorn]

Competitive djinn

[silent acorn]

Can't even have the legends so... Your choices are split very thinnnn

[stuck bane]

Oh yeah, and triple fusion for both forms is also a good reason for genies

[silent acorn]

In the future? No there I no future it's up to gen7

And that it

[eager jungle]

And you forgot one thing

[tired kraken]

Ik, not in the poll, but it would still be cool to see them

[eager jungle]

More buff fusion

[feral bear]

Guys i am sorry to say it but enamorous is a girlboss

[velvet root]

NTM would be happy

[tired kraken]

I meant, ZA coming out next year

[silent acorn]

That's more faith than anyone has for volbeat and Illumise getting in

[silent acorn]

For IF it's impossible due to coding limit

[eager jungle]

Enamorus is trash design, I'll never change my mind

[stuck bane]

Yes but machoke already has that so not a unique reason

But there is the meme of “son, we need to talk about the kinds of Pokémon you’ve been catching”

[silent acorn]

Machampo Milo

[hollow creek]

We can always reference new forms in ZA with fusions we make

[tired kraken]

I was talking about Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde

[silent acorn]

There is that I suppose but it's not quite the same

[feral bear]

She grew on me after a while but i can see why some people dont like her. I love a controversial queen

[sterile spoke]

Enamorus is my least favourite Pokémon to this day. 😅

[hollow creek]

Its the weird ant eater form that gets me

[eager jungle]

Why do I think people would make an alt for their triple when it'll just be a X Y and a Z

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/chappedlips-ouch-gif-23131831

[silent acorn]

XYZ

[eager jungle]

Isn't it more a snapping turtle?

[feral bear]

Yeah her therian form is trash she isnt allowed to shift at the meetings dw

[silent acorn]

It's the one floating with a snake

[hollow creek]

I guess you're right

[eager jungle]

Then I'm fine with it

[silent acorn]

Anyway screw enamorus LILLIGANT TIME

[silent acorn]

BOOM POTENTIAL INCOMING IN 3

2

1

BOOOOOOM

[hushed mantle]

The genies maybe be bad for fusions but at least they are goated in terms of gameplay

[eager jungle]

Can I have a little more pixels?

It's really blurry on phone

[broken kestrel]

if ludicolo gets in, we need the ludicolo/voltorb fusion to be a miror b reference

[silent acorn]

Here have an HD upgrade

[hushed mantle]

As a mexican, i think i have no other option

[eager jungle]

Nah, they'll be great imo

[silent acorn]

Sprite by

MATIN

[feral bear]

She is kinda serving there although i am a known liligant disl*ker

[silent acorn]

A modest lady is refreshing when the queens have gone by

[eager jungle]

Imagine it's doing a back or front flip...

[stuck bane]

… w h a t

[deft obsidian]

My next lilligant is ready for spritework but my internet dieing.

[silent acorn]

That's so shocking my brain didn't process

[feral bear]

Courage we have been over this lol i was outvoted!!!!!

[silent acorn]

JOJO THE PRO QUEEN LADY DOESN'T LIKE LILLIGANT?

[stuck bane]

I must have misheard you @feral bear

Please repeat that

[silent acorn]

I mean Lilligant is a princess so I geddit

[feral bear]

I just think shes like cute next to gorgeous yaknow

Gorgeous is gonna devour cute

[eager jungle]

Tsarena >>>>>>>>>[...]>>> Lilligant

[silent acorn]

Cute beats sexy to the dust

[feral bear]

Subjectively!!!!!

[stuck bane]

This is the beginning of new Pokémon discussion civil war

[silent acorn]

Cute is the anhilator of perversion and corrosion

Cute is what pika clones are

Lol

[feral bear]

Omggg noo the liligang has been ruffled lol

[stuck bane]

I need to change my votes hold on

[eager jungle]

Would a lilligant soup taste good?

[feral bear]

Order in the court!!!

[silent acorn]

when the queen becomes even more majestic with the help of cute

[feral bear]

I think that her leaves would taste like oregano

[silent acorn]

Peak I say peak

[eager jungle]

Nah, she looks too snob imo

[feral bear]

But see tsareena kinda carries that TO MEEEE

[silent acorn]

What flavor of soup you want?

[stuck bane]

And even when she descended and gave the good word you still turn on her

[eager jungle]

Yes

[silent acorn]

Alright

[stuck bane]

Jojo? More like Judas

This is war I’m goin all out

[silent acorn]

With fought hell and back for that and even she back from retirement... Oh the betrayal...

[feral bear]

We made peace long ago at the end of the plant girl wars and now liligant is in the core group MUCH TO MY CHAGRIN

[silent acorn]

JuJu

[feral bear]

Omggg plant girl war 2

[eager jungle]

Tsareena : 3
Lilligant : 2

[silent acorn]

Juju's Strange Betrayal Journey

[eager jungle]

Just because I like tsareena more

[silent acorn]

Why not both

[sterile spoke]

Tsareena will forever be a 0 on my scorecard, unfortunately. Moderating those fusions would be... not fun. 😂

[silent acorn]

I mean no stakes right? Eelektross will win anyway

[feral bear]

Lets not even STARTTT

[silent acorn]

Lilligant gives you a Seal of Approval

[eager jungle]

Because imo Tsareena would give new designs and lilligant is kinda similar to bellosom

[stuck bane]

Eelektross 0
Minior 0
Gogoat 0
Golisopod 0

[silent acorn]

Not really Bellossom is green Hawaiian kirby

[feral bear]

Liligant kinda does give me yassified bellossom so like okay yea i see it now!!!

[eager jungle]

Nah it'll be fine, we managed jynx vaporeon, gardevoir, Miltank, Miltank, Miltank, Goodra, what can go wrong

[silent acorn]

Similar doesn't mean little dot eyes

[sterile spoke]

We barely managed Goodra.

[twin phoenix]

I gave Tsareena a 2 which is pretty high for me. Idk, something about her isn't my cup of tea, but I still like how she looks.

[stuck bane]

Nothing else matters, all our suffering, for this?

[sterile spoke]

I will say though, Tsareena has a great colour palette. 🙂

[eager jungle]

Hey, I gave it a two, not a zero

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-sparkle-mlp-cute-my-little-pony-the-power-of-christ-gif-17096952

[hollow creek]

Tsareena is in my "I'd be happy with it" tier

[silent acorn]

Oh really... Do you wanna see the PLOT potential of Castform?

[silent acorn]

YEAH BOI TOP LIL

[stuck bane]

You are forgiven for your sins

[feral bear]

https://tenor.com/view/uhhhhh-uhmmm-what-had-happened-gif-15171400

[silent acorn]

The power of Lil compels you

[hollow creek]

Lilligant has a lot of mini details that would make it fun, and the body potential is there, the weird feet boot things on tsareena are just kinda weird to me, sorry, but its till like a 2

[eager jungle]

But yeah, Lurantis > Tsareena ~= Lilligant

[velvet root]

That looks so huggable

[feral bear]

https://tenor.com/view/exorcist-gif-21949797

[silent acorn]

That's fine, thank you

[stuck bane]

I will cease this fighting because houndrys wishes it, returning my votes to their original

[feral bear]

A fragile peace has been brokered

[silent acorn]

@velvet root here hug it

[eager jungle]

I don't see Eelektross

[stuck bane]

My blood is that of anarchy, at any moment I will turn to it

[silent acorn]

Plant ladies don't fight they unite to beat them brutes

[hollow creek]

I have no idea how hes not there, hes an obvious 3 though

[stuck bane]

That is true plants are symbiotic mostly

[eager jungle]

like Paras?

[stuck bane]

Mostly

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/cactus-balloon-balloon-pop-hug-cactus-sad-gif-16677972

[eager jungle]

🤝

[stuck bane]

Carnivine prob also falls there

[silent acorn]

@eager jungle Rejoice for you are top tier

[silent acorn]

Remember.... Ingrain

Anyway Poke plant ladies war averted

Now where we before... Oh yeah I gave Blaq food for thought with Castform

Yeah that thing is doomed both ways lol

[outer matrix]

but that uses the hisuian form...

[silent acorn]

Goodra was bad, Casty is like how to avoid sus

[sterile spoke]

Look at the cuteness levels that Ribombee could bring. 🙂

[stuck bane]

Like, I think you brought up good points a few months back, with form change and stuff

[silent acorn]

Tsareena does have some of those colors and shapes

[stuck bane]

And Goodra doesn’t?

[unkempt kernel]

Same could be said about the squirrel

[sterile spoke]

Pachirisu doesn't have a cute little scarf. 😛

[silent acorn]

What mon do you want to avoid like the plague?

[unkempt kernel]

No but it could

[eager jungle]

Rejoice????

Brain not braining

[silent acorn]

It is top tier choice no?

[unkempt kernel]

Fuse it with rimbombee

[silent acorn]

Like be happy about it lol

[stuck bane]

The edge of war has taken a toll on us all, especially mentally

[outer matrix]

I think I'm going to make a tsareena fusion with lilliagnt later now that I think about it...

[sterile spoke]

Anything not called Pangoro or Ribombee. 😉

Or Toxicroak or Slurpuff. 😅

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/lilligant-happy-smile-gif-529187512381127051

[silent acorn]

Pelipper?

[eager jungle]

It's 22:34, I'm a bit tired and English isn't my mother tongue so yeah, need explanation of the word

[hollow creek]

I think my most controversial dislike is aromatisse

[languid mango]

Anyone else think the alolan starters would be cool?

[silent acorn]

joy but twice

[languid mango]

just a thought

[unkempt kernel]

Nah a lot of ppl hate it lol

[civic harness]

Hello there

[silent acorn]

Maybe but we have no say on that

[stuck bane]

It made raffle, could make special vote as well

[hollow creek]

My most controversial 1 rating is probably slurpuff

[hollow creek]

You would be surprised

[eager jungle]

Oh, okay

[stuck bane]

Do you at least have another pure fairy at like a 2 or 3 or something

[silent acorn]

I find it hilarious the most consistent thing with this votes is Slurpuff being top tier

Or just be there always forever and ever

[hushed mantle]

Atp, my most controversial 0 is... well, lilligant

[unkempt kernel]

I meant in the Pokemon fandom as a whole, not here specifically

[eager jungle]

I like aromatisse

[hollow creek]

Shiitnotic 3, florges 2

[eager jungle]

I know tho that the one I hate is in game

[unkempt kernel]

I think I gave Aromatise a 0

[silent acorn]

What's your least controversial one?

[stuck bane]

I don’t think anybody last vote liked you either so I don’t care much about your opinion

[hollow creek]

Its weirdly shaped for me

[hushed mantle]

Normal stuff like the monkeys or something

[stuck bane]

Florges 2 is fair, we need more fairy heads

[hollow creek]

Florges has good potential

[stuck bane]

Highest sp def out of all options

[eager jungle]

Florges has a cool design imo

[stuck bane]

Even more than diancie carbink

[silent acorn]

That'd be your least controversial 3. Your world is upside down my friend you, need some milktank

[sterile spoke]

Flying is the most overrepresented type, if I remember correctly. Water isn't far behind. 😅

[stuck bane]

Rei there was almost a civil war over Lilligant

[prisma willow]

Wait what

[stuck bane]

I knew reinforcements weren’t far away

[silent acorn]

Hmm... It was given to a lot of stuff

[hollow creek]

Pelipper has fun body potential

[prisma willow]

Is Liligant cuter with or without a mouth?

[stuck bane]

We’ve brokered a peace treaty, but some people here are on thin ice

[hushed mantle]

No please no miltank

[stuck bane]

With absolutely

[sterile spoke]

These were the numbers as of the last update. 🙂

[outer matrix]

does anyone want to see shedinja/lilligant based on what I have so far?

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

[hollow creek]

but for heads, that mouth beak stretches under like the entire body and thats a weird thing to work with

[silent acorn]

Jojo betrayed the gang and said no cuties

[stuck bane]

Sure

[sterile spoke]

Water is fine, but Flying is super overrepresented. 😮

[prisma willow]

still confused

[feral bear]

https://tenor.com/view/jasmine-masters-shook-gif-13527676

[silent acorn]

Almost started a civil war because she was like "Nah. Tsareena is top, I don't like lilligant"

[small tiger]

How about Shedninja/Tsarenna

[silent acorn]

Lol there she is

[eager jungle]

I kinda like the sprite potential of the carnivorous plant pokemon

[unkempt kernel]

I only really care about Pachirisu tbh

[feral bear]

https://tenor.com/view/jasmine-masters-shook-gif-13527676

[small tiger]

Noice

[outer matrix]

hey, look, mines on the top right

[silent acorn]

Is this your prototype for the sprite? That's great!

[prisma willow]

I mean, while I do find Tsareena cool, I still find Liligant to be better.

[stuck bane]

Lilligant: it WAS an overworld Mon, adds more grass types, it’s counterpart is already in the game, good special attack and speed, only pure grass type that gets own tempo (for grass type head and body fusions), and it also learns petal dance unlike ludicolo, and is the only pure grass type with access to entrainment, Lilligant also has the highest special attack of any pure grass type that can learn petal dance

[feral bear]

Mama warned me about the VULTURES

[stuck bane]

It is a very good one

[hushed mantle]

Ngl, lilligant sprites are really cool, but i personally think it's too close to bellossom to be worth it

[civic harness]

That raffle is from the last votes

[stuck bane]

Bellossom is a midget with lower stats

[deft obsidian]

What is this list? 0.o

[silent acorn]

Oh yeah we have Zoroark lilligant, Rosalina lilligant

[eager jungle]

Type diversity

[stuck bane]

Yes, eelektross made it there so it’s likely to make it this time as well

[hushed mantle]

Yeah, at least lilligant has way better stats

[civic harness]

I will try to win one of the contests

[sterile spoke]

Least represented types (in order): Fighting, Grass, Dark, Fairy, Electric
Most represented types (in order): Flying, Dragon, Rock, Steel, Ghost (only problem is Flying though, really) 😮

[stuck bane]

Gl

[silent acorn]

Huh flying is the overrepresented type

[civic harness]

I know how to fix that

[prisma willow]

Liligant also has a cute ball gown. Got that princess/southern belle vibe.

[sterile spoke]

How represented each type is in relation to the current official numbers, including only final forms. 🙂

[silent acorn]

OH RIGHT BECAUSE LAST VOTE ALTARIA AND NOIVERN

[outer matrix]

what flying types are on this current vote?

[stuck bane]

Wait is bug not needed?

Pokémon by how many of each type in the game by percentage:
29/47 Fairy Types (61%)
29/48 Dark Types (60.4%)
52/97 Grass Types (53.6%)
38/77 Bug Types (49.3%)
29/56 Fighting Types (51.7%)

[silent acorn]

Pretty much all the other regional birds

[sterile spoke]

That's not what my list looks at, it's the relation to the overall distribution of types. 🙂

[deft obsidian]

Not enough grass type

[hushed mantle]

Did we even get a single fairy type last update?

[stuck bane]

The crazy thing is I don’t think so

[silent acorn]

I did notice grass types are thin

[sterile spoke]

Grass for example is only really underrepresented because it's a plentiful type. 😅

[feral bear]

Thats why we need slurp and aromatisse

[stuck bane]

Still having under half of all potential bugs is wild when there’s so many good ones

[silent acorn]

I mean... You got mostly gen 1 and 2 grass types, then Trevenant was like the newest one from a Gen past 5

[sterile spoke]

Just checked, and surprisingly no. 😮

[feral bear]

2 pure fairies to up the overall amount of fairy fusions, extremely valuable

[sterile spoke]

Or, alternatively, a Bug/Fairy-type. 😉

[stuck bane]

If they come as a package, yes absolutely they’re the best

[silent acorn]

Yeah I agree let's get ribombee

[sterile spoke]

Although the type that currently has the least proportionate representation by far is Fighting. 😦

[eager jungle]

Or

We add everything

[silent acorn]

Honestly should have been this way since the start

[feral bear]

I am not disagreeing about ribombee bc i love her, but half of all potential ribombee fusions would be bug so having a pure fairy is more beneficial

[stuck bane]

There’s only 4 fairy type heads in the game, I also like ribombee, but pure fairies get a pass by a long shot

All fairy type heads currently available (and only ¾ of them are good Moonblast users):
Clefable
Sylveon
Togekiss
Granbull

[civic harness]

Dont worry, I have the cakes for that

[silent acorn]

Although everyone loves clefable right? We don't need more than clefable right?

[outer matrix]

how can I vote for it if it's on the dinner table?

[prisma willow]

Ribombee is hecking cute and I've always wanted to run the littlest dragon slayer on my team

[feral bear]

Who is pure fighting? Sawk n throh? Any others?

[civic harness]

Like this

[silent acorn]

@outer matrix what's this hairy mess? I ordered shrimp

[feral bear]

Like out of the mons not in yet obvi

[sterile spoke]

Nobody wants to keep Bug as a type when it's there though, so Ribombee is essentially a pure Fairy. 😉

[stuck bane]

Id at least want to get to the point where a player can make a full team of 6 fairy heads since fairy is mostly special

[sterile spoke]

Mienfoo and Mienshao. 😄

Also Pancham. 😉

[stuck bane]

Yeah but it can only ever be fairy body, like all the fairies in game but togekiss

[feral bear]

OH yea those girls, they are on the team as well just not pictured

[silent acorn]

You didnt vote for anything tho

[prisma willow]

But Liligant is still my top choice

[civic harness]

What?

[eager jungle]

The squid from gen 8 but it's not a option

[sterile spoke]

Ironically, Hisuian Lilligant would be pretty good for type distribution purposes, plus Victory Dance is an obscene move. 😄

[stuck bane]

Fighting type Regenerator: adds more fighting types, great attack, and good special attack and speed, and the only fighting type with access to regenerator, also can bring shaolin martial arts references to differentiate from Sawk and Throh, and is the only pure fighting type to learn aura sphere (it lends itself to being a good special attacker too), and also the only pure fighting type to learn bounce naturally, and the only pure fighting type to learn calm mind, and the only pure fighting type with access to double slap, and the only non-legendary fighting type with access to drain punch naturally

[sterile spoke]

Regular Lilligant is a little more plain, but I'd say it has the better design of the two. 🙂

[silent acorn]

What gen is that move?

[sterile spoke]

VIII, sadly. 😢

[stuck bane]

Frog has made exceptions before, like regigigas getting not slow start

[civic harness]

Remember, at least one or two points for charity

[stuck bane]

He COULD include victory dance as a fusion only move if he wanted, but unlikely

[outer matrix]

victory dance is a good move that boosts attack, defense and speed stats by one stage

[feral bear]

I would like frog to add a move that adds one (1) chicken nugget to my inventory IRL

[eager jungle]

It would require frog to program it

[stuck bane]

Unlikely, but Lilli is popular (here at least)

[outer matrix]

if only regionals could be added in

[eager jungle]

What's the pokemon you really don't want?

[outer matrix]

the 3 monkeys

[feral bear]

[redacted]

[stuck bane]

Like, the only regional that might be added is alolan exeggutor since it’s different enough, but that would be the only one, if

[eager jungle]

Mine is castform

[stuck bane]

Luvdisc, it has only 2 reasons

[stuck bane]

Good choice

[feral bear]

Huh what oh snap i blacked out for a sec

[civic harness]

I maybe know what pokemon exactly because I have an enemy

[stuck bane]

It was horrible someone almost hacked your account, you should get it checked out

[eager jungle]

?

[hushed mantle]

Amoonguss

That would unleash a bunch of haha funny among us fusions

[deft obsidian]

I like regular lilligant more.
They did lilligant dirty with that hisui design.

[outer matrix]

there's also alolan sandshrew and vulpix, who both have completly different typings than their original counterparts

[feral bear]

No but for real please god no kommo o

[stuck bane]

BRO WHY ARE ALL THESE ANSWERS ONLY GEN 5 THIS IS SLANDER

[civic harness]

If I say it, people will dislike me

[feral bear]

I will only be genuinely disappointed if its kommo o like any other mon is fine to me

[hushed mantle]

Kommo-o>>>goodra

[outer matrix]

tbh, there's more pokemon in gen 5 that feel like a "meh" to others

[eager jungle]

Castform IS bad

[feral bear]

https://tenor.com/view/i-pretend-i-do-not-see-it-i-do-not-see-it-emoji-ew-gross-gif-20086803

[eager jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[civic harness]

Are you sure?

[eager jungle]

Yes

[feral bear]

Lets hear it

[stuck bane]

Yeah but that’s one answer in a sea of monkeys, Lilli, Amoongus, and those are actually kind of ok (besides monkeys) and most people say basculin and stuff

[eager jungle]

In worst case I have a hammer

[feral bear]

Crabhammer

[stuck bane]

But he has ice hammer so

[eager jungle]

[sterile spoke]

He'd have to code it, which is the issue. Changing abilities to existing ones doesn't require coding, just text file editing. 😅

[sterile spoke]

Agreed, but we don't need another pseudo line when we have so many of them. 😦

[stuck bane]

Unlikely

[civic harness]

Well, you know that I try to make Crabominable get in IF, for more ice type and Fighting type but... there is a problem, another Ice type pokemon... Spheal

[stuck bane]

Meh idc

[eager jungle]

Spheal is overrated imo

It's just a ball

[feral bear]

Spheal would make a very cute sableye

[stuck bane]

And we have sooooo many water types, especially if Golisopod wins

[civic harness]

If Spheal have too much hype, Crabominable will have not chance

[feral bear]

And i could turn walrein sableye into a clown

[hushed mantle]

True

Kommo had its opportunity but lost it

[eager jungle]

I think your real enemy is clawtizer or whatever it's spelled

[feral bear]

What if clawitzer was dragon type

[stuck bane]

You decide if this list is a good or bad sign:

Missing dragon types:
Druddigon
Dragalge
Zygarde
Turtonator
Drampa
Kommo-o
Guzzlord
Naganadel

[civic harness]

Nah, Clawtizer is a competitive friend

[sterile spoke]

I really like Spheal, but I feel like Sealeo would be forgotten about, and people would hate Walrein because of its weird shaved ice beard (though it is the only Pokémon with that texture). 😅

[eager jungle]

Only this missing?

[civic harness]

The problem with Sealeo is that Seel and Dewgong exist

[rancid nymph]

Walrein doesn’t have a beard

[stuck bane]

Yes, unless there’s a special form idk about like pirouette

[eager jungle]

I kinda like walrus x)

[stuck bane]

Here’s the ghost one:

Missing ghost types:
Jellicent
Gourgeist
Hoopa
Decidueye
Lunala
Marshadow
Blacephalon

Dragon and ghost have dominated the votes

[outer matrix]

hoopa with its evil genie theme would be cool, but it's not on this current vote

[eager jungle]

They mostly have won the genetic lottery and they look good, that's why

[civic harness]

Anyways, try to have a chance to Crabomimable, I will still making sprites and propaganda

[eager jungle]

If crabominable makes it I'll rename team Krabby Family into team crabs

[hushed mantle]

That's what i've been saying

But i guess many people forget about it

[stuck bane]

I mean, hyperspace fury has contrary potential

[eager jungle]

Oh yeah, I forgot blacephalon is ghost

[stuck bane]

And iirc the unbound form has cracked stats

[hushed mantle]

There might be a chance many people didn't even notice hoopa was on the vote bc it's honestly kinda forgettable

[eager jungle]

Imagine a serperior/hoopa hyperspace furry contrary

[silent acorn]

People in competitive can keep praying for Crabbo I aint getting on that train sorry

[hushed mantle]

And the base form isn't as good as the unbound one

[stuck bane]

Pushing the contrary meta to the absolute limit

Spinda: only normal type with contrary
Malamar: only psychic/dark with contrary
Lurantis: highest attack with contrary
Serperior: highest speed/defenses + contrary

Magearna: access to fleur cannon
Victini: access to v-create
Crabominable: access to ice hammer
Kommo-o: access to clanging scales
Hoopa: access to hyperspace fury

[civic harness]

Thanks pal

[stuck bane]

As much as we hate to admit it, kommo o would’ve made it last time, brings another fighting type, and brings clanging scales. It’s probably slated to win the main vote unless opinions have drastically changed (or another veto happens)

[eager jungle]

Anyways

Bye

[stuck bane]

Cya

[outer matrix]

kommo-o would probably be the hardest to sprite due to its scales

[civic harness]

Goodbye

[feral bear]

Oh spinda is a girlboss

[stuck bane]

Jojo, I’m gonna be honest, we’re slapping girlboss onto so many things that are arguable if they’re even girls, let alone bosses, it’s starting to lose meaning.

You decide what team Girlboss does, I’m not stopping you, and still support you, just stating what I’m seeing

[feral bear]

Team girlboss is a state of mind

[stuck bane]

Very well

[feral bear]

Team girlboss worldwide

[mystic crystal]

Spinda is so girlboss. She's so slop-core coded

[feral bear]

IM SAYINGGGGG

[median iris]

https://tenor.com/view/wimpod-gif-26500976

wimpod propaganda, that's all I got for today

i am watching videos of cats and i cannot stop

[sterile spoke]

Beard, moustache, same diff. 😛

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/moustache-ride-vegeta-gif-14419257

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-pokemon-gif-19673550

[stuck bane]

Meanwhile, ice type with an actual beard:

[terse fable]

I like bear

I want all bears

so I gave it and panda 3

[unkempt kernel]

Ursaring, Beartic and Pangoro triple fuse into the webarebears

[grave jolt]

The self fusion has to give a beard

[clever vigil]

Finished trans bird (had to fix stray pixel)

[wooden shadow]

Weird question heh

Is Slurpuff & Alcremie a fusion yet?

It's fine if not I'm just pondering over what you guys think of dessert themed fusions

[hot hamlet]

Slurpuff not in. Alcremie never in. So maybe in the non-PIF thread? But not gonna be in game

Still hoping cupcake puppy gets in

[wooden shadow]

Ahhhh. That's fair I forget which mons aren't in, I'd love to see it too even if it's a chonky lil guy

[clever vigil]

Gonna go make more Archen and Archeops bases. They deserve to get in. Why not make 7 sprites in a row anyways

[small tiger]

Hawnestly Tsarenna is the only one I see with any significant power in any corporate structure

Levanny would be selling honey in a mall storefront somewhere

Lurantis would own maybe a small bakery with her trainer

And Salazzle would at most be a secretary and more realistically a more literal truck stop “lizard”

[hot hamlet]

Salazzle would be a makup artist or fashion model with that figure. Why hire humans who have to maintain an unhealthy shape when the lizard is as skinny as you need?

[small tiger]

Well for one salazzles have wildly different leg structures and secondly their large hands could make holding makeup brushes somewhat cumbersome

[agile sun]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-fairy-type-animations-animated-cartoon-gif-10592379

[stuck bane]

Honestly, slurpuff is good design and competitive wise, the two main groups voting in the special vote, you have a real shot at winning this datorre

I still don’t know what the limits of choices for the special vote are, but few things would be able to top Slurpuff, if at all

[small tiger]

Tsarenna is more appealing and with bounsweet fills much of the niche that slurpuff does

[hot hamlet]

Special vote is just contest winner gets to add an entry for a secondary mon.
So Slurpuff has the main vote, and a 1/13 chance in the secondary

[gray vine]

eh slurpuff is design wise better tbh, Tsarenna is just another human

[terse fable]

I agree with that, even tho I do like Tsarenna, sorry girlboss team

there's other girlbosses I vouch for harder

like aromatisse

or gorebyss

[stuck bane]

Wait, the events are only 12 right?

• Tourney #1 Infinite Fusion Random Battles: Wingull / Pelliper
• Dog Days Winner: Swirlix / Slurpuff
• Role icon contest: TBD
• Emote Contest : TBD
• Elusive Pokedex Event: TBD
• Dex Entry Contest #2 : TBD
• Speed Spriter Contest : TBD
• Tourney #2 IF Singles : TBD
• Tourney #3 Gen Lock : TBD
• Concept Art Contest : TBD
• Tourney #4 IF Doubles : TBD
• Tourney #5 Big Boss : TBD
• Tourney #6 Monotype: TBD

Oh it is 13, my mistake, but I still think Slurpuff has better odds than 1/13: 6 voters are competitive/tourney players, and at least 4 more are spriters (afaik, I don’t keep up with sprite contests)

Anyways, that is a HUGE portion of the vote that both find Slurpuff enticing. Competitive will love it for unburden and fairy type, and spriters will love it for dessert fusions

Slurpuff isn’t my #1, but I’m struggling to think of another Mon that could compare in bringing both spriters and competitive players together

[small tiger]

Fucking competitive players

[hot hamlet]

Pretty sure the 13 is just the total number of choices that’ll be put into another RNG pull. So others can vote Slurpuff to increase odds, but I’m gonna vote another so I have 2/13 chance of a desired mon getting in!

[prisma willow]

I just don't like Slurpuff. The design doesn't vibe with me.

[stuck bane]

You’re probably misunderstanding: special vote is only between winners. Aka: only 13 people vote in that one, obv not voting for their own.

The winner of that vote between the 13 winners is added to the game. It’s not a raffle and we have no say in it

[small tiger]

Nah, slurpuff can only do desert fusions, the Tsarenna line can do desert and fashion fusions along with like bayoneta if you fuse it with like umbreon or something

[stuck bane]

And also frog said even if you win and make it to special vote, no dupes allowed, but it does allow you to vote for the Mon you wanted in the first place (you can pick something to block potential competition like monkeys)

[hot hamlet]

We’ll have to see. I’m pretty sure the contest votes will not end up with multiple entries for one mon given the smaller category and large number of choices. So in the event of an eventual tie, it would be raffle drawing

[small tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/tsareena-pokemon-sun-and-moon-pokemon-go-hair-flip-gif-12425520

And even queen or even tsar fusions with the crown on its head

[hot hamlet]

Also “no dupes” means it will not be majority votes

As each entry will be different

[small tiger]

So the special vote is a finalist vote

[gray vine]

yes..so thats my point, slurpuff actually adds soemthing new, Tsarenna just does what you can do with any of the humanoid mons

[small tiger]

Plus what slurpuff can do

[stuck bane]

This

[hot hamlet]

I want dessert fusions!

[gray vine]

it doesnt add cotton candy

it actually adds nothing

[stuck bane]

And this in case anyone had doubts

[hot hamlet]

Idk man I’m only half concentrating as I’m on the clock atm

[gray vine]

its a fruit mon with a humanoid base, both of which already exist

[small tiger]

Still gives you a ton of options for desert fusions with bounsweet

[gray vine]

hardly

bounsweet is a fruit

its not a desert

[small tiger]

Yeah, fruit are a big part of most deserts

[gray vine]

but not the part

cotton candy is a desert

[small tiger]

You could fuse it with a cloud poke and make the skirt? Cotton candy if you want

[prisma willow]

let there be peace in our time

[small tiger]

Yes, everyone vote tsarenna or campaign to have more than one fucking line added

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-bateman-gif-27617182

[gray vine]

thats a fusion just to make something it makes on its own already

[stuck bane]

There is the (impossible) chance Tsareena wins a vote and Lilligant wins the other

[feral bear]

Yea as much as i want tsareena its not looking good for her lmaoo 😭

[gray vine]

good girls

[hot hamlet]

All I know is if I win the Dex contest I’m adding ice cream to the second vote

[stuck bane]

I’m mostly banking on extra votes frog decides to add to round things out

[small tiger]

Slurpuff isn’t cotton candy either you have to fusion slurpuff with other pokes to get cotton candy

[prisma willow]

Trivia: Tsareena's line is based off a Mangosteen fruit

[small tiger]

I think she has had the most custom sprites made for her

[stuck bane]

If a unova Mon makes it in the second vote you know I have to go all in on it

[small tiger]

It’s bs we can only have one line added

[feral bear]

Many people dont like her tho, like shes a full 0 for a lot of people sadly

[hot hamlet]

Correct me if I’m wrong but that sounds like you think the second vote is just adding +1 to the totals of the major vote in the hopes it changes the winner

[stuck bane]

No, the second vote has nothing to do with the first

2 lines are being added

[small tiger]

To be fair… this channel probably isn’t a proper sample

[feral bear]

Also consider that one of the 2 winners so far for the second vote is a known tsareena disliker

[gray vine]

its pre evo is cotton candy, slurpuff is based on a cream desert from france

[feral bear]

Oh i know i have been on this tsareena shit for a while lol

[hot hamlet]

Again, wording just made it sound that way

I’m all for multiple lines getting in

[terse fable]

I like slurpuff's lil face so 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/slurpuff-good-morning-wake-up-pokemon-gif-27675576

[gray vine]

i dont like its shiny

[hot hamlet]

I prefer chocolate to strawberry

[gray vine]

tho is it atleast unique

[small tiger]

How about tsarenna’s though

[gray vine]

im not a shiny hunter, i dont care

i just saw it and didnt like it

[small tiger]

They should be considered

[gray vine]

not to me

as the game doesnt use actual shinies

[small tiger]

Anyways fuck Slurpuff voters

[gray vine]

so actual shinies shouldnt matter

[feral bear]

There WILL be order!!!!!!

[small tiger]

yes, the Tsarenna Order

[feral bear]

https://tenor.com/view/no-electric-chair-swag-gif-13628491

[gray vine]

i feel like people who chat here already voted right? cant you only sent 1 time anyway

[terse fable]

Damn, didn't think I'd have to 0 a mon, sorry Tsarenna you're my first

[gray vine]

i guess not

[small tiger]

Damn, give that to castform jaysus

[gray vine]

i did

you can do multiple 0

[terse fable]

lolllll

[stuck bane]

Tsareena isn’t THAT bad, grass type dazzling and tropical kick are a few reasons

[feral bear]

Praying to god that i win elusive pokedex so i can get my lil fat bitch in

[small tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pumpkaboo-head-lights-light-eyes-gif-14126094

Gourgeist is a good alternative considering Halloween fusions and pumpkaboo’s cat like features

[hot hamlet]

You can change vote but yeah only 1 submit

[stuck bane]

0 should go to Luvdisc who LITERALLY has two reasons

[hot hamlet]

I voted 3 for Halloween Cat

[gray vine]

again you can do multiple 0 lul

[terse fable]

Gourgeist isn't talked about enough for how obvious of a 3 it is

[gray vine]

Nipple Beams

[stuck bane]

Yeah but that should be the most obvious 0

[gray vine]

ah ye

i dunno what my most clear 0 was tbh

[hot hamlet]

“Flashers”

[gray vine]

been 2 days now

[stuck bane]

We can debate others, but clear ones should be clear

[small tiger]

Of course, it could justify adding either slurpuff or vaniluxe by getting us Hatterine by proxy

[terse fable]

I didn't give anything 0, lowest was 1 for me lol

[gray vine]

hatterine cant be in

[small tiger]

Mostly tsarenna

[terse fable]

and the one's who got them are the obv ones

[stuck bane]

… you understand I was talking 0s right? Have you flipped? Am I talking to a split personality?

[feral bear]

Is tsarenna her name in a diff language

[small tiger]

Yes, but a gourgeist/slurpuff or vaniluxe fusion could get us a hatterine ref

[hot hamlet]

Funny how the past 2 days were the great meta debate for the votes and today we go back to the propaganda posts

[feral bear]

Genuinely asking lol

[gray vine]

also for a fusion game you sure like your humanoid female coded mons and not mons that actually can contribute lul

[stuck bane]

I think it’s tsarina from Russian language + queen but yeah

[gray vine]

ohhhh

[feral bear]

No like tsarenna as opposed to tsareena

[terse fable]

Looks before meta any day

[small tiger]

Thought you switched to talking about 3s

On that not, Gilosipod and castform

[terse fable]

Fashion Souls mentality

[feral bear]

Or tsaranni

Oop not the double fromsoft references lol

[terse fable]

We love our Fromsoft games here 🙌

[small tiger]

Anyways change your vote on tsarenna to a 3

[prisma willow]

I appreciate the person who made the Liligant/Chandelure sprite

[small tiger]

Beautiful sprite

[feral bear]

Are u spelling her name that way for fun or is it actually how its spelled in a different language i am curious

[small tiger]

It’s how it’s spelled

Oh shit

Tsareena sry

[feral bear]

Im like, am i having a stroke

Lmaoo

All good

[lucid sleet]

thanks

[small tiger]

It’s actually Armajo in japanese

[civic harness]

Hello there

[viscid fossil]

They just have a secret version of the game where you can fuse tsareena and hatenna

[small tiger]

Tsareena should win at least the special vote though

[terse fable]

but there's also horsey, people shouldn't forget this

[outer matrix]

forgot to ask, but in more detail what would tsareena bring for fusion ideas?

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/mudsdale-pokemon-gif-17040219158482787263

[small tiger]

Eh, I don’t think we’re in dire need of dreadlocks

[terse fable]

:-:

[celest bobcat]

His ability though

[hot hamlet]

What would Mudsdale provide in terms of fusions besides horsie? Cause we have Rapidash for that

Convince me

[ebon glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cryogonal-whatisthispic-pokemon-heart-locket-my-beloved-gif-15671008797800063476

[celest bobcat]

A better Trojan Horse

[small tiger]

We do need a grass-type humanoid with visible legs…

Especially one that can fill in for pastry/fruit fusions

[hot hamlet]

Eh… we already have that

[hot hamlet]

Much like irl, the more you push for it, the more I’ll make it a 0 out of spite

[terse fable]

They make different kind of horsey, Rapidash is more regal while mudsdale is more country so can go down that vibe, mor farm esque instead of fancy/war horse like rapidash! Also more angy, mudsdale has angy face which is cute/good for some fusions/ rapidash has that cute kinda dopey eyed stare which is different

[hot hamlet]

Currently a 2 and be happy with that

[celest bobcat]

Humanoid Grass type with Visible legs...
I think I spirited a couple of those

[terse fable]

But y'know if you don't like horsey then also aromatisee

[hot hamlet]

Yeah I don’t see it. I get what you’re saying, but differences are still too minor imo. (Kinda would need to see it used creatively I think)

[terse fable]

that's fairr

[inland jewel]

getting in a pokemon that can increase the low amount of fighting and ice types? sign me up

[terse fable]

well at least think about the buzz

https://tenor.com/view/mandibuzz-vulture-flying-shadow-ball-attack-gif-27404745

[feral bear]

Mudsdale bc boy horse

We already have girl horse now we need to complete the set

Its also why we need maractus

[civic harness]

Call now

[gray vine]

yes maractus the cactus horse

[celest bobcat]

Zebstrika

[small tiger]

We have girafirig

[feral bear]

I like zeb

[celest bobcat]

We get in Zebstrika
We can make Beetlejuice

[terse fable]

I 3'd the zebra, also gives fancy different horse fusions with an angry look instead of regal

[gray vine]

got plenty of ghost and bug types to make that

[hot hamlet]

I did vote high for bone Birb

[feral bear]

I only 3 my favorites and give everything else literally a 0 so sorry in advance yall

[hot hamlet]

Because Incan see a lot of aesthetic use from it

[feral bear]

There i said it

[small tiger]

Gourgeist could do the same thing being Halloween themed lol

We could get jack skellington out of it too

[hot hamlet]

I’m sorry, who can we make?

[celest bobcat]

Yeah but the Black and White Stripes though

[gray vine]

i mean thats just his clothes

[hot hamlet]

Duskull fuse?

[gray vine]

but he is a ghost with a bug theme

[terse fable]

dead lol

[gray vine]

well demon but thats not a a type

[small tiger]

Cubone could work too

[gray vine]

why not think in last stages

[hot hamlet]

Honestly shocked Banette hasn’t made Sally yet

[celest bobcat]

Think Throh and Sawk would be good bases?

[hot hamlet]

Nah

[terse fable]

remember, you don't want sad bone birb, but happy, so give that birb a 3

[hot hamlet]

Idk why but those two don’t seem… inspiring

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-vulture-mandibuzz-crying-a-river-pokemon-gif-27404666

[gray vine]

they are just humanoid fighters

we got a few

[hot hamlet]

I already did

[small tiger]

Muppet fusions?

[terse fable]

one less sad bone birb in the worldd

[small tiger]

Yeah chatot could be nice for parrot fusions

[hot hamlet]

Sesame Street fuses (Bert and Ernie, as their memes go) but outside that I got nothing🤷‍♂️

[celest bobcat]

I think their proportions would be neat in making shonen fighters

Especially Sawk

[hot hamlet]

If you had to vote a single Pika Clone in, which gets the 3?

[small tiger]

They have large garbage can mouths and noses which are a defined oblong in the middle of their face

Plus bright colored skin

[hot hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/sesame-street-bert-ernie-book-reading-gif-17245123

[celest bobcat]

Muppet Shonen Fighters

Sawk Goku

[hot hamlet]

As I said, already thought of those

[small tiger]

You could do tf2 fusions since they’re red and blue and fighters

[hot hamlet]

🤷‍♂️

[terse fable]

I think other mons add more variety in terms of sprites and fusions, but I do think Sawk and Thro have more potential then given credit for

[small tiger]

Statler and wardorf? If you could think of a fitting dark type fusion

[hot hamlet]

Minus the potential line but yeah. I voted 1 because not a no, but rare chance

[terse fable]

Toy based and muppet based games have kinda been popping off lately, so at the very least for reference fusions they have that open

outside of that they still have variety in themselves to make mons muppet/sock puppet like which I think is fun!

[small tiger]

True, martial arts are underexplored plus a snorlax sumo fusion

[celest bobcat]

Surprised a fan favorite like Staraptor isn't in yet
Sure it's another bird

[hot hamlet]

Well that’s boring. After I started doing themed teams, I kinda find straight reference rips basic and dull.
The monokuma Bewear at least looks like a Halloween costume

[celest bobcat]

BUT IT'S THE BIRD

[hot hamlet]

And what does it bring to the table?

[celest bobcat]

It's hairstyle

Lol

[small tiger]

We need a writing pokemon, we already have smeargle and melotta

[terse fable]

Not saying they'd all have to be straight ref rips lol

[hot hamlet]

MEH

[stuck bane]

Staraptor is easily the best regional bird. Idk if it should be here yet with so many great competitors but it has reasons

[hot hamlet]

And Grafaiai technically as an evil Smeargle

[outer matrix]

would it be very controversial to say that staraptor is kind of okay, even if it feels a bit...basic?

[terse fable]

Staraptor is fine

[small tiger]

Tsareena could theoretically take that role as a trashy tabloid journalist but…

Hmmmm…

[celest bobcat]

Look at this color scheme and design
Would be great Heads

[terse fable]

I can see some awewome fusions made in my head regarding that

has that color scheme

[stuck bane]

I found previous research I did

In fact, despite it being yet another normal flying bird, Staraptor has a few things going for it, the only flying type with access to reckless, great attack and good speed, only flying type that naturally learns close combat, it’s probably one of the better regional bird choices (besides what we currently have being only pidgeot and Talonflame)

[terse fable]

it's not bad honestly

[hot hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/boring-boredom-golden-girls-lame-over-it-gif-26646248

[small tiger]

Yuh, Toucannon is much better

[hot hamlet]

In terms of aesthetic and uniqueness I agree

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/staraptor-bird-pokemon-pokémon-staraptor-gif-27024794

[stuck bane]

Toucannon has what, the 2 turn beak move? Maybe an ability?

[celest bobcat]

Look at that edgy anime bird protagonist LOL

[terse fable]

I think other mons are better picks rn, but staraptor isn't a bad mon asthetically lol

[hot hamlet]

And a lot of color options

[outer matrix]

staraptor does look cool ngl
||opinion is slightly changed ||

[small tiger]

Yu-gi-oh fusions?

[stuck bane]

Toucan is another reason for it but Staraptor is also an incredibly diverse bird from the rest

[celest bobcat]

definitely