pif-hoenn-discussion

[snow scroll]

wait, can't deoxys in this game change forms??

[fathom ridge]

One sprite work thread with salazzel was already deleted bc of rule 2

[small tiger]

kek

[dusty arrow]

no (aesthetics only)

[lament peak]

Yeah its other forms are just alt sprites

[snow scroll]

THAT'S ITS WHOLE GIMMICK

[lament peak]

I think its the same with rotom

[silent acorn]

Noice

[eternal timber]

Salazzle/Charizard would also help her ascend

[dusty arrow]

trust me, i too wish for deoxys-attack/rampardos

[snow scroll]

so there's no deoxys-attack, or deoxys-speed

this sucks so hard 😭

[silent acorn]

Actually I think deoxys changes out of battle which can be better

[lament peak]

Nope, altsprites 😔

[eternal timber]

I made a fusion that combines attack and speed form

For sneasel

[snow scroll]

so necrozma gets a whole form change and a sidequest

[lament peak]

Although some fusions use their designs like deoxys/rotom is speed form deoxys

Not its stats

[eternal timber]

God imagine salazzle with pseudos

[snow scroll]

deoxys found dead in a ditch

[hollow creek]

salazzle has that sleekness that I really like and few other IF reptiles have

[snow scroll]

it's so over

[dusty arrow]

[eternal timber]

Her colors are absolutely a different vibe from sevipers too

[dusty arrow]

reminder that flames come from salazzles tail

[eternal timber]

But seviper would be amazing too, we dont have a snake that has a blade tail and massive fangs

[small tiger]

true

[eternal timber]

In fact there’s no other snake mon like it

[small tiger]

yeah, could be a little similar to arbok

[silent acorn]

Yes vote 3 for it.

[eternal timber]

Ekans covers rattlesnake vibes, arbok has cobra vibes

[hollow creek]

Seviper has gold armor and a knife for a tail, thats pretty hard to beat, ALSO its a snake so ya

[lament peak]

Does zangoose also get added with seviper

[eternal timber]

But seviper has viper fangs and a blade tauk

Yes

[dusty arrow]

yes

[silent acorn]

Why is it a problem?

[hollow creek]

AND FANGS

[lament peak]

Pretty neat

[dusty arrow]

"has viper fangs" sitten look at the last five letters of seVIPER

[eternal timber]

If zangoose comes in we all agree to make the claws purple

[lament peak]

Its not?

[eternal timber]

Plz

[silent acorn]

Yeah it's a twofer

[eternal timber]

Like they’re supposed to

[hollow creek]

fangs, gold armor plating, knife tail, those scratch marks, peak IF material

[eternal timber]

I was saying it’s a trait other snake mons dont have

[dusty arrow]

fair enough

[silent acorn]

this is the Seviper Zangoose care package

[dusty arrow]

reminder that seviper and zangoose can breed

no im not kidding

[eternal timber]

Tbh those are more stiletto snake fangs

None of the others really have exposed famgs

[silent acorn]

the extra package is this

[dusty arrow]

replace the claws with seviper tail

[eternal timber]

Exposed teeth is not a trait many animals like to have

[eternal timber]

Thats why they have romeo and juliet vibes

[viscid fossil]

Deoxys was added during a time when forms couldn't reasonably exist due to physical limitations
The code has been optimized since but old mons won't get new forms for a variety of reasons

[velvet root]

Did you know that Seviper would have to lick its fangs constantly or soak them in water a lot to keep them durable and usefull?

[eternal timber]

Nah

It has fangs that are adapted to being exposed

That happens

We have walruses and elephants and boars

And stiletto snakes

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/zangoose-seviper-pokemon-gif-18114815995010367874

(i thought this gif was funny)

[velvet root]

Animals that have that are often in Water or lick theyr teeth a lot

[earnest mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/kommo-o-pokemon-jangmo-o-hakamo-o-dragon-gif-6106603155641907404

[silent acorn]

OH GOD A SCALIE

[eternal timber]

Nah, they can be like that

[fathom ridge]

I love how silly it looks when it’s actually a death battle

[eternal timber]

Saber tooth tigers did indeed have exposed fangs

Anyway stiletto snake

[velvet root]

And on many fossils we see that they broke

[eternal timber]

Probably because those are fossils

[dusty arrow]

they only used their fangs as a finishing blow

[eternal timber]

They survived long enough for there to be enough individuals for fossils to form

Seviper realistically works liek the stiletto snake

Which can fold thosw back but can also hve them out when the mouth is closed

[velvet root]

Obv they dont break like a twig but they are way less durable
thats why 99% of the animals with exposed teeth are big fans of water
Like Crocodiles

Or Elephants love water too cuz its healthy for theyr tusks

Walrusses are semi aquatic

[dusty arrow]

so what you are saying is seviper should evolve into a poison/water type

[eternal timber]

Like i said, it’s not a trait many animals have, but it is a trait that has happened

[velvet root]

No just that it either licks its teeth a lot or you find it near water
and coincidental its near a big lake in Hoenn

[silent acorn]

Oh nice you have a doc for it

[fathom ridge]

I need more people to do vikavolt sprites to do my propaganda

[dusty arrow]

to add onto the floating hand fusion: probopass

[velvet root]

Vikavolt doesnt spark joy when I think of Spriting it qwq

But its a really cool mon

[fathom ridge]

okey…

[eternal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/zangoose-seviper-pokemon-gif-18114815995010367874

Seviper suffers

[velvet root]

I didnt say I wont give it a shot

[eternal timber]

Honestly im not sure if those gold spots are armor

[fathom ridge]

Nahhh if you don’t want to is fine the propaganda is just for fun golisopod will win anyways

[eternal timber]

He bites directly onto one lol

[velvet root]

Ngl the 2 Mons that make me Scream of Joy are Gogoat and Golisopod

[fathom ridge]

Those are the ones that I think have the best chance of winning

[velvet root]

I hope so

[dusty arrow]

reminder that sevipers tail is also venomous

[bitter comet]

Same but with Malamar instead

[eternal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/seviper-pokémon-seviper-poison-poison-tail-pokémon-poison-tail-gif-25914560

[rugged temple]

Probopass just isn't nearly as cool tho

[dusty arrow]

i say that because floating heads + floating arms = ???

[rugged temple]

Sad but true

[fathom ridge]

What if you do malamar/vikavolt and I do vikavolt/malamar?

[rugged temple]

Ah

[bitter comet]

I can’t sprite. Apologies. 😭

[dusty arrow]

fun fact! sevipers scarlet pokedex entry is its only entry that doesnt mention zangoose

[rugged temple]

Good thing there's malamar Claydol already given a concept sprites by someone or I would have asked for it

[dusty arrow]

https://gyazo.com/c88c7a194b6e4b262a37b4d64e1fa869

[fathom ridge]

Well then I’ll do vikavolt/malamar

[velvet root]

Fun fact
Seviper and Zangoose can breed

[dusty arrow]

already said that

[bitter comet]

That would be great!

[dusty arrow]

can i add a suggestion for vikamar

[fathom ridge]

Sure

[dusty arrow]

i think it would look cool if malamars tentacles were like- coming from the side and flowing back

[velvet root]

Fine
than I dont advertise them with facts and stuff

[fathom ridge]

My sprites aren’t very good tho so don’t expect too much

[dusty arrow]

reminder that zangoose usually stays on all fours and only gets on its hind legs when angered

this means zangoose is always angry

[mild sedge]

I worked way too hard on a freaking PowerPoint presentation

[fathom ridge]

You won’t believe what I’m also doing

[mild sedge]

is it a PowerPoint and does it violate rule 7 because idek

[fathom ridge]

Uh what is rule 7

[mild sedge]

no file sharing (unless your using sarcasm

[fathom ridge]

Damn it I won’t be able to share the word of vikavolt?!?

[mild sedge]

Maybe in video?? Idk

[fathom ridge]

Maybe

[mild sedge]

I’ll screen record on my laptop

[velvet root]

Yeah idk
Hope it helps a lil

[dusty arrow]

https://gyazo.com/4184b188eb7c1938ccb2a0a227012dc4

[velvet root]

@fathom ridge

[dusty arrow]

https://gyazo.com/25b6bb88df64950b65a4b17a9cbe8e5d

[fathom ridge]

Yooooo thats a sick sprite

thank you for helping for the vikavolt cause

[dusty arrow]

i think you should make its claws purple to represent scolipedes lil nubs

[velvet root]

Maybe you can give me a hand too with a specific someone? #1213539303876206643
You dont have to but after searching a saw you apparantly didnt do one yet so maybe

[velvet root]

Always has been

[dusty arrow]

swag

[fathom ridge]

is bisharp/gogoat done?

[velvet root]

Wait lemme check the sheet again

[mild sedge]

plz show as video-

[velvet root]

Its not done yet!

[mild sedge]

where is it--

[fathom ridge]

ill do that

[velvet root]

awesome!

[mild sedge]

NOOO

wait

[velvet root]

if you need a base we have some in #1213539303876206643 in the pins
And a handfull some messages below

[mild sedge]

here, the video.

there it worked fine

[velvet root]

I love that
If it didnt had a 3 already I would give it 3

[dusty arrow]

its also gets coil!

[mild sedge]

my magnum opus of propaganda so far

[dusty arrow]

i love its gen 5 sprite

he stands on his lil fins

[mild sedge]

a barely put together by scotch tape slideshow

with google telling me that its on fullscreen

i just had an idea

[dusty arrow]

levitate, coil eeleksey

[mild sedge]

whichever one wins

ill do a run with only fusions of that

[dusty arrow]

be prepared to run a full team of ice type magikarp

[mild sedge]

lol

but PLEASE not the monkeys

[fathom ridge]

I really have to get around to finish my vikavolt one

[dusty arrow]

oh yeah definitely

please no monkeys

the only one i like is simisage

[mild sedge]

i mean my hatred for medicham is specific but everybody hates the monkeys

[silver sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-lotad-hang-gif-21504228

[mild sedge]

lotads pretty nice

silly goober

[velvet root]

I like Lotad

[dusty arrow]

i kinda want stoutland if only for the reason to see alakazam/stoutland

[barren lion]

The fusion sprite is just one big moustache

[dusty arrow]

literally just

https://tenor.com/view/agl-ssj3-goku-goku-ssj3-super-saiyan-3-dragon-ball-gif-8205911541520462283

[mild sedge]

just pokemon with beards lol

[bitter comet]

Na that would be that one rock type Pokémon I can’t remember the name of

[dusty arrow]

probopass

[bitter comet]

Yes

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/probopass-chad-yes-gigachad-meme-gif-26615848

[mild sedge]

im probs gonna refine and edit the slideshow

[barren lion]

probochad

[mild sedge]

maybe actually give it something other than a white bg

[dusty arrow]

i need someone to make a probopass/machamp now

[bitter comet]

I feel like it would be good for Viking looking fusions

[barren lion]

cool fusion idea, can't draw worth shit tho.
Durant/dugtrio is just an ant-hill with a thousand tiny durants coming out of it

[outer matrix]

minior wooper

[barren lion]

it sees the past, present and future, it sees past the third dimension and past our universe. It sees all.

[silver sierra]

Fire

[silver sierra]

I'll get itchy everytime I see it

[velvet root]

No its a ground type

[silver sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/betty-white-math-calculating-confused-golden-girls-gif-27641696

[civic harness]

Guys

The first event for the special votes just end

The winner probably already choose the pokemon

So we have one pokemon or line ready for the game, probably

[velvet root]

Btw if you guys like events and have time, we have a classic event with the theme Aquatic in #1213539303876206643 message

[silver sierra]

Hoping spheal or lotad

[velvet root]

Its a Raffle
so its one option of many

They spin a Wheel then

[mild sedge]

it feels like spheal gets quite a lot of love from literally everybody

[civic harness]

I dislike Spheal

[velvet root]

It got some hate last vote but I think its cool

[civic harness]

But I understand why people love it

[rough hound]

Its not a bad mon but its evos are gonna be mid and the ball niche is already taken

[mild sedge]

btw slideshow edit 2 almost done, its mainlly just minor changes

[silver sierra]

Spheal is cute! Walrain was a staple in my gen 3 team when I was a kid

[barren lion]

honestly, this all came as a big surprise to me. I thought they said that adding anymore pokémon break the game because of limitations in the system. Not complaining, just surprised

[rain locust]

is it possible to add lycanrocdusk

[silver sierra]

Theyd probably need a special item or dedicate one like dusk rock but I dont see why not

[velvet root]

That problem got deleted a year ago

[rain locust]

bc i said i wanted gren but someone else said starters arent allowed so idk what the guidelines are

[barren lion]

huh, neat. Glad to hear that.

[silver sierra]

In this vote starters arent allowed

[inland jewel]

In this vote, you cannot vote to add starters, legends or mythicals

[velvet root]

Basically yes but actually no

[rain locust]

ok

[rain locust]

what does this mean

[inland jewel]

Lycanrock is in the game, but the dev refuses to add Dusk form

[velvet root]

they say Lycan Dusk is too similiar to midday so they wont add it

[rain locust]

duuuude

[inland jewel]

so yes, we can get lycanroc, no we cannot get dusk

[rough hound]

Anyways time for your regularly scheduled triple trouble propoganda

[inland jewel]

people speculate that the Winner's vote cancircumvent this because thats what happened last time around

where meloetta, shaymin and Primarina showed up in the Winner's vote

[rain locust]

are ultra beasts restricted

[silver sierra]

In this vote yes

[inland jewel]

they fall under mythicals

[rain locust]

1984 tbh

[barren lion]

the Toxic Trio (I know Gastradon isn't a poison type, but eh, slugs are often toxic)

[silver sierra]

Toxicroak would be cool. Big frogmon fan.

[lament peak]

Toxicroak is awesome

Idk how it will do in fusions

[hexed agate]

yummy chicken time (vote Charjabased and Relicanth)

[velvet root]

I hope the concept artist in the #1213539303876206643 thread wins that

[barren lion]

too bad it gets absolutely bum-procreated by any psychic attack

[rough hound]

Toxicroak sweep!

[velvet root]

Relicanth is awesome

[mild sedge]

thanks to couragestars propaganda paragraphs, i now have a fifth reason

[velvet root]

Man they always ignore the stuff I make qwq

[rough hound]

My badddd, these are all mine and google images tbf

[rough hound]

LIL MAN

[velvet root]

Look how uncomfy he is XD

[barren lion]

Goocroak

[mild sedge]

alr gonna start recording ill be afk for at least a minute

[velvet root]

All my non if non Goat fusions

[rain locust]

im actually running so dry on ideas of what to add its crazy

only things i have are staraptor/mandibuzz

[velvet root]

Gogoat is great

[rough hound]

There is a goat. Its you, youre the GOAT

[slim otter]

As I promised, I have returned with a gastrodon fusion

[rough hound]

HOLY

[velvet root]

OMG I just found out a jumping Spider lives in my room!
I hate Spiders but its kinda cute in a ewww way XD

[inland bear]

here me out......druddigon get added????

[rough hound]

Aw love jumping spiders

[slim otter]

Gonna trim those stray pixels and put it in spritework

[rain locust]

higher spd than i thought maybe could be decent? idk

[inland jewel]

I like druddigan, but if a dragon were to be aded can we get Kommo-o instad? Last pseudo that can be added, plus fighting type

[velvet root]

HE just peeked out behind my Closet, waved at me and went back XD

[inland bear]

YESSSSSS

[rough hound]

He just caught a fly and wanted to tell you

[velvet root]

Also highest HP non mega grass type

[velvet root]

Ngl my Spider rating is JumpingSpider>NormalSpider>HuntingSpider>BirdeatingSpider (idk the real name for the last one)

[barren lion]

wonder how they will do Wishiwashi if it gets voted in. They do have trouble with pokémon that changes forms (like Aegislash

[rough hound]

Spiders are the homies they eat all my opps

[velvet root]

Thats why I accept them even tho I have a phobia
I mean a Daddy long legs killed a wasp some weeks ago, idk how but he did and im happy cuz im allergic to wasps

[rough hound]

Daddy long legs aint even spiders

[civic harness]

@grave jolt

[mild sedge]

my slideshow is too big 😔

[velvet root]

I know but they are the same for me

[mild sedge]

i gotta shorten recording time

[rough hound]

Fair

[barren lion]

honestly, claydoll could bring some pretty hype fusion ideas. It is already a pretty awesome base sprite

[rough hound]

But yea yknow who else eats my opps? FROGS

Look at these base sprites i made a while back

[velvet root]

Ribbit mothaGoater

[rough hound]

I forget if im allowed to cuss in this server

[velvet root]

I think it depends on the context

[slim otter]

I need more East Sea fusions

[barren lion]

you aren't clucking allowed to swear you muck!

[mild sedge]

new slideshow :D

[slim otter]

You should add some inspiring music

[fathom ridge]

the dark blue fits eelektross more

[mild sedge]

ill try but im not the best at editing

[rough hound]

I had an east sea toxicroak going a long time ago but scrapped it 😭

[velvet root]

I wanted to google the jumping spider in my room
Now my phobia triggers and it feels like im coverd in Spiders qwq

[slim otter]

But yeah
Add points to Gastrodon

[mild sedge]

which one is dark blue

[rough hound]

I have this to offer, not mine but its in my gallery

[velvet root]

My Spider Phobia includes
Sweating
Heat waves
Paranoia
Anxiety
and the feeling of millions of tiny spider feet on your body qwq

[mild sedge]

ah yes, arachnophobia

[fathom ridge]

I meant that the new background of the presentation was better than the white one on the first one

[velvet root]

I dont wanna have that qwq
Spiders are soooo cool

[mild sedge]

ive had to whack many spiders at 3am because i couldnt sleep with it

[barren lion]

you must hate having a sleeping limp

[velvet root]

Thats actually fine
just annoying

[velvet root]

You know the feeling when a fly lands on your lips?
thats how my body feels when my arachnophobia gets triggerd but the feeling is moving constantly

[barren lion]

free lunch!

[velvet root]

Mhhhh Proteins

[rough hound]

If you take art, i just found these. Slowbro and rayquaza respectively

[velvet root]

Man I love having all emojis cuz of Nitro

[slim otter]

I only wanna use stuff I know can make it into PIF
I have no idea if these artists would give permission for their stuff to be used in the game

[rough hound]

Gotcha

[slim otter]

They're cute, though!

[rough hound]

This was a PIF sprite i believe

[slim otter]

The Slowbro on the bottom looks like it's turning into a gastrodon

[velvet root]

Like look at all those fun emotes

[rough hound]

Just checked and it is

[mild sedge]

ok so I was thinking abt music but I have no idea what to put, any ideas?

[slim otter]

I like that staravia one

[slim otter]

You can find stock music for free online

Inspiring is usually a genre they have

[mild sedge]

alr

[rough hound]

Omfg give me that giratina emote

[velvet root]

I... cant on this server

[rough hound]

Sobbing

[inland jewel]

send it through DMs

[velvet root]

Its a sticker from a server
I dont think you can use it
and sending that server even in dms can cost me my place here I think

[slim otter]

I spent today making a Gastrodon sprite instead of making a PIF sprite

I need to get to work

[plucky tendon]

i will now proceed to repost my designs because i like them

[velvet root]

pov me for 2 days with Gogoat and Skiddo

[inland jewel]

on the plus side, IF they get in then you'll hve sprites to submit for them

[outer matrix]

I might make a gastrodon/meloetta soon (not today), but I wonder if I should do west or east sea form?

[plucky tendon]

do what i do and just mash them together

[velvet root]

west and make it a cowgirl

[velvet root]

I mean if you have a server you can screenshot it
Cut it out
and make it a sticker

[inland jewel]

can't you just send him the screenshot hrough dms then?

[velvet root]

I could screenshot it too but than there are extra steps for both of us

[inland jewel]

i mean you did your due diligence of giving him the picture

[outer matrix]

tbh, maybe not

[inland jewel]

its on them now to actually get the thing to work

[mild sedge]

the best I could do

[hazy fable]

DLFJFHSKFJSLG

[velvet root]

Ngl pokemon music could be sick for that

[hazy fable]

Hi! This is ANTI-MONKEY Movement! Pls don't vote the Elemental Monkeys!!

[velvet root]

welp I go to bed
have a great time everyone
And before I forget

[mild sedge]

that was my idea, like driftveil drawbridge or smthn

[mild sedge]

and gen

Gn*

[hazy fable]

cursed

[velvet root]

Maybe give Gogoat a vote
Even if you dont like it much atleast a 1 since so many on this server work on it and its sprites!
Have a great night!

[mild sedge]

this is certifiably one of the slideshows of all time

[sour sigil]

what Pokemon can we recommend? Or vote on?

[fathom ridge]

VIKAVOLTTTTT

[sour sigil]

oh hell ya

[fathom ridge]

Here some propaganda

[sour sigil]

but my fave is Tinkaton

I already love vikavolt

[fathom ridge]

Sadly the silly rascal isn’t in the vote

[sour sigil]

damn

maybe one day

just because I know it would also make some of the best fusions

[rain locust]

carbink
mandibuzz
golisopod
jellicent
mienshao
gogoat?
gastrodon?
audino?
staraptor?```
my rough list of mons id add if im one of the winners of the fusion tours

[bitter comet]

Wish you luck

[fathom ridge]

No vikavolt smh

[rain locust]

thybomb just added it

[bitter comet]

I feel like Golisopod has a pretty good shot for winning the regular vote

[sour sigil]

is there a list of all the pokemon to vote on?

[tender plank]

Yo, Pelipper made it to the 2nd vote. That's pretty rad, Pelipper's cool.

I like thm

[bitter comet]

It’s in the voting thing

[sour sigil]

where?

[rain locust]

wait pelipper?

[bitter comet]

Announcements

[rain locust]

wack

[civic harness]

WAIT

DID YOU CHOOSE?

[tender plank]

no

[bitter comet]

Pelican

[tender plank]

the contest winner did, idk who they are tho

[barren lion]

Pelipper is awesome! Hope it is the drizzle-ability version we get!

[tender plank]

correction: tourney winner

[civic harness]

Im not talking to you

[tender plank]

oh, srry

[hidden relic]

Wingull line

interesting choice from em

wait, oh shidd. no more slowmode

for me atleast

[bitter comet]

Pelican

[prime dust]

bold of them to pick something that may be trying to use an ability that is borked

[civic harness]

Well, is not a bad option honeslty

[bitter comet]

There is a slow mode you are hallucinating/j

[rain locust]

pelipper not v necessary imo toed does just fine

[alpine rune]

LETS GO PELIPPER

[hidden relic]

well

not for me

[earnest mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-kommo-o-kommoo-kommo-o-gif-8121977202858861076

[hidden relic]

clearly

[molten loom]

No this is fast mode now

there is no normal mode

[prime dust]

<insert clown horn noise here>

[proud lion]

The Drizzle gang

https://tenor.com/view/wingull-pokemon-wingullclippycaroline-funky-cat-gc-gif-12707537093125830707

[analog stag]

Wingull line added to the 2nd vote

[proud lion]

I can see the fusion potential for the Wingull Line

[analog stag]

Same

[proud lion]

Can be the meme and the Drizzle support while getting rid of quad weakness to electric

[barren lion]

pelipper fusions are ripe for comedic potential as well not all fusions needs to be cool

[prime dust]

let's be honest...there is one meme, and it is a self fusion of wingull and wingull

[eternal timber]

Yeah uh, that “comedy” could get into rule 2 easily

[civic harness]

Someone could tell me how the emote contest work?

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/mine-finding-nemo-mine-mine-mine-thats-mine-lulugifs-gif-20827668

[proud lion]

Let’s just hope it’s not added twice so we get more potential variety

[prime dust]

we don't know

[proud lion]

Referring to the Archeops scenario from the last raffle

[analog stag]

https://tenor.com/view/pelipper-team-rocket-pokemon-gif-25260726

[prime dust]

the contest hasn't been announced yet

[prime dust]

the same person won twice

[analog stag]

I hope the 2nd vote people keep nominating funny ass mons

[barren lion]

pelipper/pelipper is just a beak with two wings attached. I refuse to accept criticism on this idea.

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-pelipper-flying-landing-gif-6607156613465239438

[proud lion]

I wonder if the secrets include potential revealed Pokémon before the vote end per Frog’s choice? like the Monkis

https://tenor.com/view/anipoke-pokemon-gif-23760775

[slim otter]

Watching a pokemon rip part of itself off is not pleasant

But I also like the monkeys

[earnest mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/nigel-nemo-and-dory-fish-need-water-save-those-fish-nigel-nigel-the-pelican-nigel-gif-21839506

lets get Nigel in here

[proud lion]

Casual Mutilation

[inland jewel]

Now we need Torkoal and Gigalith in that 2nd vote

Weather gang money gang

[deft trout]

We need Seismitoad

[grave jolt]

Woo! Love Pachirisu fusions!

[spice sage]

It's a bit different from last time. Since this is a vote and not a raffle, two people can't add the same Pokemon (they can vote for multiple though!)

[bitter comet]

Man, I hope someone puts Malamar in the second vote(because as much as I love him, I don’t think he’s gonna win the first )

[deft trout]

God has spoken

[spice sage]

Win an event and put it yourself

[deft trout]

That's the goal

[forest basin]

wingull/pelipper?

[deft trout]

Anything for my froggy boi

[bitter comet]

I would, but I am unfortunately completely skilless ✨✨✨

[azure salmon]

Smh don’t say that

[inland jewel]

I was so close, Semi-finalist and then got hit with mono fighting against a flying guy

[forest basin]

i didn't know people wanted them, what's the fusion there

[azure salmon]

[inland jewel]

quiver dancer too

[barren lion]

malaman is gonna be a bitch to evolve tho I don't wanna turn my monitor upside down

[molten loom]

Just get better

[velvet root]

Pov my anxiety levels and self doubt when Frogman does those kind of reveals

[bitter comet]

No

[azure salmon]

Well sorry but you better get Eviolite then

[forest basin]

wingull unown is a v-bird, pelipper and someone is a toilet, and uhhh i guess there can be fusions where pelipper has a pokemon in their mouth like in finding nemo?

[spice sage]

I have lowkey no idea what I would do for its evolution method if it wins lol

[sour sigil]

I am on mincino propaganda now

[tender plank]

well, i guess i gotta get my spriting game on so i can put my mans up there
(i have barely any spriting skills oh god)

[azure salmon]

You could like

[sour sigil]

I would do ANYTHING

[azure salmon]

Make a special room that’s upside down

[bitter comet]

Have it evolve by pressing a certain key board combo

[unkempt kernel]

Level 30 + screen orientation shortcut

[grave jolt]

I would compete but I have a problem with my hands that makes it hard to sprite 😦

[deft trout]

People just need to think about it
Three Good Abilities
Ground type Swift Swim
Unique coverage moves like Power Whip and Sludge Wave
And a very derpy cool boi with potential from the little orbs

[mild sedge]

trash a rare candy at level 31

[spice sage]

Gotta input the konami code

[velvet root]

Having a Hitmontop or so in the team maybe?

[deft trout]

https://tenor.com/view/seismitoad-seismitoad-uses-mud-shot-mud-shot-gif-25724506

[spice sage]

Ohh clever

[deft trout]

RageCandyBar at level 31

[grave jolt]

Would be cool if the Konami code wasn't copyrighted

[velvet root]

Idk how many upside down mons exist

[deft trout]

Gotta level down to evolve

[grave jolt]

That one's a good idea

[velvet root]

Victreebell

[inland jewel]

I think having it as a level evolution would work, BUT if hitmontop is on the team, it evolves early

[barren lion]

well that makes it easy to decide what pokémon to get at the fighting dojo in saffron city. Getting a hitmontop naturally would be a damn impossibility

[civic harness]

Frogman, please have mercy

[grave jolt]

Have 5 other pokemon with upsidedown sprites

[deft trout]

Gives some use to my Hitmontop/Palossand

[velvet root]

A Hitmontop or Victreebell in the team for early evo or at level 45 maybe

Like both work

[spice sage]

Gotta fuse it with an hitmontop to turn it upside down

[eternal timber]

Hitmontop is always the best choice

[velvet root]

Thats evil and fun

[deft trout]

But Malamar Hitmontop was already made

And it's sideways

What do we do

[eternal timber]

It’s just a lot easier to get it from there than to balance stats

[bitter comet]

Suffer

[sour sigil]

I love so many of these pokemon

that I won't be hurt by the winners

[slim otter]

I haven't caught Giratina, but what if you turned upside down in the Distortion World?
Is the Distortion World in PIF?

Maybe Diving could evolve it?

Since you turn over to dive?

[barren lion]

personally hope we won't get a pikachu-clone as a new pokémon.

[analog stag]

Oh god, skibidi toilet sprite fusions

[bitter comet]

Man, I don’t want to wait until the endgame to evolve it

[forest basin]

we cannot allow the toilet bird

[slim otter]

Well, some mons can't be caught until endgame

I think

[sour sigil]

understood but also I wouldn't mind that much

I don't think that will happen

[bitter comet]

But still, it feels a bit extreme to do all that just to evolve a squid (a cool squid, but regardless still a squid.)

[slim otter]

Squid are awesome, though

[sour sigil]

personally, as long as you can make good fusions with the line, I feel it's all good

I just want stuff that sparks creativity

[bitter comet]

Yes, that’s why I should be able to put a fusion of him in the Hall of Fame.

[velvet root]

Taste*

[slim otter]

The thing is, you can make good fusions with any mon

It's more about what kind of fusions you like

[sour sigil]

true I just kind of want to to be different than all the same

[spice sage]

Honestly that's the best criteria imo. There are plenty of pokemon that are kind of shit in their own but have a ton of potential for creative fusions

[lyric whale]

Milktank would beg to differ

[sour sigil]

like we already have a lot of neglected bear and spider pokemon

[bitter comet]

This is why we will never add the monkeys to the game

[sour sigil]

I meaaaan

[barren lion]

never underestimate the effect of psychological damage before the fight even begins

[next flare]

Maybe a gymnast that throws and flips the player

[mild sedge]

I feel so tempted to post the slideshow rnnnnn

[sour sigil]

it is creative

[velvet root]

Like a specific fav pick of mine

[bitter comet]

Right frog man? Right?

[slim otter]

I approve this message, even if I can't bring myself to eat squid
Squid are resistant to the rising acidification of the ocean and exist in large enough quantities to not be eradicated by fishing

[unkempt kernel]

Reason why I’d like Pachirisu to win

[molten latch]

So uhm

[slim otter]

You can make good Miltank fusions
People just sometimes choose not to

[inland jewel]

thats the funny part, if they make the mostt hated mon gets added as a tradition then the Monkeys might be next

[sour sigil]

I would make godlike fusions for them

as in

horrors

[slim otter]

It wasn't a tradition, it was a joke

[velvet root]

He isnt the best mon for many but its great for fusions

[slim otter]

We get the monkeys, but just Pansear and Simisear

[lyric whale]

Creatures that Eldridge abominations look cute

[barren lion]

some of the options do make me wonder how they will work. Like Wishiwashi and its ability that makes it change form. Doubt that can apply to fusions

[bitter comet]

A joke can be done an endless amount of times

[inland jewel]

We say this because it only happened once. Then again this is the 2nd year in a row we doing this so.... Joke or tradition it remains to be seen

[sour sigil]

you can't call miltanks fusions uncreative though

[bitter comet]

Vote for Malamar then

[next flare]

The monkeys are not the most hated option

[unkempt kernel]

Yeah- worlds 2014 alr did that without fusions

[slim otter]

Currently it's a joke
It may become a traditional joke
(Though I doubt it)

[spice sage]

It kinda happened with stunfisk too

[silent acorn]

Sorry for pinging but what is the rating for Elemonke

[slim otter]

Which is?

[sour sigil]

we already have an octopus-squid like pokemon so personally not voting for em

[inland jewel]

🙂

[next flare]

Vulbeat and Illumise would be the true troll picks

[slim otter]

Ah
True

[zinc cave]

i just hope the pokemon is bipedal since im trying to do a bipedal only run to make it easier to make character designs out of em

[sour sigil]

I tried to choose ones that were a little differen't

[bitter comet]

That is true. (But we don’t have a bioluminescence squid yet.)

[silent acorn]

Aaaah yeah that's true boy do those suck

[velvet root]

I think these 2 have last place atm

[slim otter]

They feel like weird kid's books characters

[inland jewel]

Is Illumise and Volbeat hated?

[slim otter]

Firefly squid!!

[silent acorn]

Very

[spice sage]

I can't say 🤐 ||but really they don't have much of a chance right now :p ||

[bitter comet]

I hate them

[velvet root]

Kinda

[inland jewel]

I know Alomomola was super hated a year ago

[sour sigil]

I might get hate for this but you could make so many joke fusions out of Patrat

[inland jewel]

it was one of the bottom three in last years votes from the time Frogman revealeed it

[slim otter]

I think we should get a halftime report on the votes

[zinc cave]

but im happy as long as skunktank doesnt get in, i dont want any fart fusions

[silent acorn]

Fascinating.... Thanks for your wise input Froggo-Sama

[velvet root]

Patrat is kinda nice

[sour sigil]

and for that alone I voted I wanted it

[inland jewel]

The unironic vote of people voting the EleMonkies for value is actually allowing another mon to be in the most hated spot lmao

[sour sigil]

like it reminds me of a that Texas chain, Buccees

[velvet root]

Now I would wonder if the top places are unexpected mons
Stuff not many talk about

[sour sigil]

but I also get why it will never win

[spice sage]

so uhhh about that 😛

[slim otter]

Womp womp

[silent acorn]

Huh... Shocking

[tender plank]

are they seriously last place right now

[spice sage]

dead last

[inland jewel]

W.... welll.

[tender plank]

LMAO

deserved

[inland jewel]

Whose the next dead last?

[slim otter]

So, it's done by percentage?

[velvet root]

I KNEW IT

[sour sigil]

how can you tell what's last? Where is this?

[slim otter]

Not by total

[molten loom]

Trying to see the whole list aren't you

[inland jewel]

nah, I want to see the bottom 3 so i can laugh at them

[slim otter]

The creator of the game of course has acess to the voting results

[eternal timber]

Ok i can check my votes now

[spice sage]

I'm not saying any more about the results 🤐

[silent acorn]

Why... Did you like em?

[sour sigil]

aaa

[lyric whale]

Can I be an exception tho?

[inland jewel]

i think Ilumise is neat, volbeat not so much... BUT

[mild sedge]

eelektross slideshow, praying he gets in ngl

[sour sigil]

I guess we are in the dark

[inland jewel]

Volbeat do be giving pokemon free-range tailglow

[silent acorn]

That's a big but

[velvet root]

Dont need to
I sadly know that my top pics probably wont win so I cant be dissapointed

[barren lion]

I mean, volbeat and illumise are not really appealing in both stats or fusion potential compared to many other options

[slim otter]

Well, I should go
Let's all add percentage points to Gastrodon

[spice sage]

I love this lmao

[barren lion]

I personally voted 'meh' for them.

[zinc cave]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-croagunk-king-throne-gif-16367260035413576996

[mild sedge]

thanks, I put in around 7 minutes

[inland jewel]

If i get to choose a mon, I'd give it to Kommo-o so we can get that last Pseudo

[sour sigil]

what did you all vote personally on patrat

[velvet root]

Lil reminder for the people who still need to vote or maybe change a lil
Gogoat is better than many expect

[velvet root]

1 I think

[sour sigil]

I voted yes for them

[unkempt kernel]

I said meh, got enough normal rodents and it’s just kinda annoying to deal with

[inland jewel]

a 3, I love that man

[velvet root]

[tender plank]

i voted 1 for them, maybe i'll bump patrat to 2 tho

i'll think about it

[sour sigil]

think of the fusions

[barren lion]

2 or 1. They have potential, but not really appealing to me personally

[velvet root]

I know one spawn for it would be the farm on the left of Fuchsia

[inland jewel]

Patrat still out there being one of few pokemon not in a mianline pokemon game

[zinc cave]

i've like no horses in this race ngl, you can tell by the name
scrafty would be cool tho

[unkempt kernel]

Then again the only 3 i remember putting down was for Pachirisu, my all time e favourite mon

[silent acorn]

That black screen is the biggest plot twist I seen

[sour sigil]

alright patrat propaganda activated

brrrr

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-traffic-cone-gif-11804735

[inland jewel]

If you do the propoganda please don't spam it ever few inutes

I'd have to decrease my vote to 0 if I see it to many times

[sour sigil]

I'm...joking

I am not spamming

[silent acorn]

0

[sour sigil]

:|

[inland jewel]

I want to enjoy ads, not have it shoved down my throat

[silent acorn]

What's your backup?

[inland jewel]

Day 1 Spheal propoganda was to much

[zinc cave]

at this point i kinda forgot my picks but im pretty sure if it stood on two legs i voted at least a 2 for it

[inland jewel]

My favorite mon of all time. Purugly

[sour sigil]

I wasn't actually going to make patrat propaganda

[silent acorn]

Hmmm it gets support plus I really want that Purugly Samurott

[vagrant anchor]

G;ad to see a purugly fan

[velvet root]

On my way to make daily purugly propaganda (not)

[sour sigil]

it's already gonna lose I think

[inland jewel]

Purugly has the unforunate role of not being in any mainline dex outside of Sinnoh-related games

[velvet root]

Thats kinda sad

[mild sedge]

rip

[silent acorn]

May I convince you to take some seasonal latte

[inland jewel]

like sure you can find them in BW and ORAS but they don't have an actual dex entry in the main dex

[barren lion]

I just want stoutland. I want my goodiest of boys

[sour sigil]

a lot of the pokemon here are underrated

[vagrant anchor]

I want Carnivine to come back

[silent acorn]

Rule three of vote. HAVE MANY BACKUPS

[sour sigil]

again fine with any of them

all the pokemon are valid

[silent acorn]

Then give the backups 2 and 3s

[sour sigil]

to me

I can do what I want

[silent acorn]

Here have Luvdisc
Its your only pokemon for the next year

[inland jewel]

Hmmm, you know what would be funny

Frogman announces a poll to add pokemon

[humble lance]

theres a lot of cool pokemon so i dont think ill be disappointed with anything that wins the popular vote

[sour sigil]

I votes 0 for lovdisc dklsjadjfkldj

[inland jewel]

then choose the 5 lowest ranking pokemon,

[barren lion]

don't even get why lovdisc was there. Has no potential

[vagrant anchor]

I would prefer Clamperl line over Luvdisc

[sour sigil]

that would make people so upset

not me though but

[inland jewel]

I mean, I wouldn't be upset, I'd find it funny

because all mon deserves to be in the game

[humble lance]

i think minior and slurpuff both probably have a really good chance

[sour sigil]

I agree

honestly

[bitter comet]

Same

[vagrant anchor]

Luvdisc felt really only there to use thief on and receive heart scales

[sour sigil]

rn I think gogoat has a chance

[inland jewel]

Did they fix the item bug where you can't get items from Theif?

[barren lion]

and heart scales are easy to come by with a bit of rock smash grinding

[velvet root]

True
Sadly I feel like my top pic just get more love in this chat and the Goat thread than in the actual votes qwq

[inland jewel]

Counter point, I hate rocksmash encounters, and only want to fish for guarneteed Luvdisc spawns

[silent acorn]

Volbeat, alomomola (the luvdisc meme kills it), Patrat. And then the other 2 I can't guess

[hexed agate]

people just can't appreciate cool bugs™️

[sour sigil]

again I'm thinking of creativity here and what pokemon I've seen neglected.

[zinc cave]

actually nah i do have 2 i really want but prolly wont get it, accelgor and aromatisse

[velvet root]

If anyone wanna see some ready to go Goats have fun #1213539303876206643 message

[zinc cave]

i want plague doctor fusions

[bitter comet]

Good point

[sour sigil]

like joltik and it's evolution but in terms of the fusions it gets, it's neglected

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/plague-doctor-dance-gif-19130639

[bitter comet]

Yes, there aren’t enough joltik body fusions.
(And those tend to be adorable )

[sour sigil]

so I don't have high hopes for the spider pokemon as cool as they are

[silent acorn]

Many people want it for that actually

[barren lion]

voted 3 on crabominable I know it is a bad pokémon, but the design is dope and I wanna fuse with it

[zinc cave]

ill be honest i dont like the aromatisse line very much but the fusion potential for it sounds amazing

[sour sigil]

it's not bad??

[rain locust]

rate my list carbink mandibuzz golisopod jellicent mienshao gogoat? gastrodon? audino? staraptor?

[rain locust]

its bad

[sour sigil]

ok

[inland jewel]

all goated

save for Carbink, hate that dude

[silent acorn]

Awful because of audino. Replace with furfrou or Sawsbuck for max swag

[rain locust]

audino for regen

carbink for high def fairy

[bitter comet]

Golisopod and Mandibuzz are both on there so Goated 👍

[velvet root]

Maybe a bit of many question marks but really nice

[sour sigil]

like competitively or design wise

[rain locust]

competitively, design wise its kinda funny

[barren lion]

only thing audino was made for, was EXP-farming in black and white.

[silent acorn]

Ok now you are just coping dude

[mild sedge]

pretty gud. but consider eelektross if you wanna (there’s a whole slideshow on why)

[rain locust]

where

[sour sigil]

then it's fine, lol

[hexed agate]

all but Jellicent, I don't want another spin blocker with scald

[zinc cave]

pangoro would be a fun one to be in too, more delinquent fusions

[mild sedge]

Here

[sour sigil]

idc about the actual power personally

[rain locust]

i would never cope

[ivory rune]

Oh wow thats really bad lol

[silent acorn]

might as well get Mienshao is you want regen

[analog stag]

Based plusle and minun enjoyer

[sour sigil]

it would be funny to see this squirrel win

[hexed agate]

Audino in game just means me demolishing the shaking grass

easy exp

[barren lion]

I want Drampa to win as well. I want my grandpa dragon

[upper echo]

my 2nd fav niche world champ mon in this vote

[rain locust]

i loooove spin blockers and i loooove scald

[upper echo]

[sour sigil]

voted yeah for that

[silent acorn]

That moment when you can rebattle a trainer that has chansey

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-gif-14713346808828858771

[rain locust]

plus its secondary ghost so most of the time its gonna be water anyway

[barren lion]

my man!

[hexed agate]

POV: you deserve to be toxic stalled

[upper echo]

getting beserk is pretty cool

[sour sigil]

just think it would have whimsical fusions

[rain locust]

id never get toxic stalled

thanks to my regen core

[vagrant anchor]

My List:

• Toxicroak
• Grumpig
• Walrein
• Huntail/Gorebyss
• Solrock/Lunatone

Thoughts?

[analog stag]

I’d prefer we get more than 1 mon with each vote tbh, so I didn’t vote high for any single stage that was just by itself. (Except Dedenne and Carbink cause we need more fairies)

[zinc cave]

i like toxicroak

[silent acorn]

Someone pursuit this guy please

[hexed agate]

sandstorm SR pivot punish 🙏

[sour sigil]

it's your opinion, why judge it really?

[upper echo]

toxicroak is pretty cool 👍

[rain locust]

https://tenor.com/view/jet-bean-killer-bean-ragdoll-ragdoll-fall-gif-23762382

[velvet root]

All great but solrock and lunatone suffer in the fusions that use them as body

[hexed agate]

no one wants my awesome pursuit stakeout Gumshoos in the game sadly

[silent acorn]

I'd just question the need for grumpig

[hexed agate]

Spoink is based

[silent acorn]

Oh no one... I sure do now

[velvet root]

Grumpig is fun tbf

[ivory rune]

Jellicent/Dusclops with Eviolite:

[silent acorn]

Tell me make your cases

[rain locust]

Holy Cow

[vagrant anchor]

because Spoink was my childhood fave

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/grumpig-pokemon-pig-pokemon-grumpig-food-gif-12413718344569301326

[barren lion]

no one talking about Exploud-line either. An generally awesome normal type evolution line with a lot of fusion potential

[vagrant anchor]

Exploud would be neat

[silent acorn]

Ok fair enough but do you have more backups?

[rain locust]

pursuit doesnt work with stakeout though

[upper echo]

anyways
vote vanilluxe
weather setter pure ice type

[hexed agate]

Exploud is boomburst with Scrappy

[upper echo]

decent stats too

[velvet root]

Also Ghost type + spoink is funny cuz he wont jump anymore

[vagrant anchor]

what do you mean backups?

[hexed agate]

then my pick of Crawdaunt with adapt would still rock

[sour sigil]

I voted 5 for it because I can imagine the amazing fusions

[silent acorn]

Like you options in case your mains don't make it

[rain locust]

id pick crawdaunt if i didnt already vote 3 on the first form

[silent acorn]

This is for ONE mon by the way

[inland jewel]

it was the chansey proxy that Gen 5 is known for

[rain locust]

but also it with melop goes insane and idk if i like that

[upper echo]

the dessert theming is also pretty cool
but I mostly just want to be able to run snow more

[hexed agate]

Relicanth

[sour sigil]

I want to see food fusions admittedly

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/relicanth-gif-20464895

[analog stag]

Exploud Noivern fusion

[upper echo]

been voting for it since I first joined
it'll win eventually trust

[vagrant anchor]

Abomasnow and Scrafty could be neat in IF

[hexed agate]

unburden belly drum

[velvet root]

PoryvernZ does it better I think

[sour sigil]

huh?

[hexed agate]

the Regis should've had their elderly guide

[silent acorn]

I respect the Snow Maining. If you want more the Vanilluxe is good for that

Reminder ice tanks don't survive well

[hexed agate]

Slurpuff has Unburden and Belly Drum

[rain locust]

thing is aurorus is the best hail setter out of them

[hexed agate]

x2 speed, x4 attack ez

[sour sigil]

oh that's cool too

[rain locust]

as it has actual stats

[sour sigil]

I did vote in their favor as well

[vagrant anchor]

I know Vanilluxe is better but I like the memes with a particular former USA President when it comes to Abomasnow

[upper echo]

vanilluxe got pretty decent stats tbh

[silent acorn]

You could just uhhh give the ice cone. A pity 1 or 2

[rain locust]

hail teams are inherently defensive and aurorus has the best bulk

[barren lion]

this is another one I really want in the game. Awesome pokémon that is adorable

[zinc cave]

love that lil fly

[sour sigil]

also voted in favor, one of my favorite pokemon ever

[inland jewel]

We get Abombasnow and Gumshoos makes it in

[hexed agate]

I'm not sure how the sprite will translate, which is why it isn't as high for me

[bitter comet]

Embrace the swarm. Vote for bug types!

[bitter comet]

Little guy ❤️

[stuck bane]

Is cutiefly the smallest or does that belong to Durant?

[vagrant anchor]

How about Linoone for IF?

[silent acorn]

vanilluxe is pretty fine

[upper echo]

true but I just like having a pure ice type for easier hail setter fusions

[velvet root]

The smallest what?

[silent acorn]

I mean its OK, but it's pretty bland

[rain locust]

simply swap aurorus typing gg

[upper echo]

on top of the option for a more offensive style

[zinc cave]

who do you not want in the game no matter what?

[stuck bane]

Only if we also get Vanilluxe since he dropped out on national ice cream day

[velvet root]

I like the Linoon line

[vagrant anchor]

I've seen Linoone Belly Drum ExtremeSpeed can rip through teams

[hexed agate]

that's not bad

[sour sigil]

Omg I am so sold

[stuck bane]

Smallest Mon available to us

[silent acorn]

Dragonite Vanilluxe works

[sour sigil]

I am team cutiefly

and ribombee

[velvet root]

I think Joltik is the smallest Guy

[vagrant anchor]

Why can't the Galarian Zigzagoon line have Belly Drum or Extremespeed?

[stuck bane]

Ooooh right knew I was forgetting something

[silent acorn]

We can't even have gen8+ so...

Actually that makes base Linoone pretty good

[sour sigil]

all the pokemon will make for amazing fusions though

[lyric whale]

Still 7 generations

[vagrant anchor]

I mean IF aside, I was just curious

[lyric whale]

That’s plenty

[bitter comet]

Yes, I too want low resolution JPEG in the game

[sour sigil]

pet the ribombee softly

[upper echo]

why does aurorus not learn aurora veil via level up..

[hexed agate]

Trumbeak begs to differ

[velvet root]

I didnt read the not part

[rain locust]

cinccino bc we already have one goober normal multihit spammer and thats enough

[silent acorn]

No idea. Maybe keep Linoone boosted whilst it's galarian was able to evolve?

[tender plank]

we love the 15 pixel tirtouga in this house

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/marshadow-pokemon-cute-shadow-creepy-gif-27060994

[stuck bane]

You’d have to take that up with Nintendo, and while you’re there ask them what happened to scarvio for me

[upper echo]

I dunno exclusive move goes kinda hard for a pivot or defensive mon

[sour sigil]

What? I love them

[slim nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/binacle-barbaracle-pokemon-anime-gif-1843617017963443781

[rain locust]

holy shiit marshadow would be fun in ag though

[hexed agate]

I veheemently dislike Trumbeak

love Toucannon though

[silent acorn]

Swalot make a case for it

[inland jewel]

How dare you, he is the only source of Tough Claws we're ever going to get

[upper echo]

luvdisc
just don't see a reason for it's existence when anything it can do alolamola can do too

[vagrant anchor]

I can't wait to see Barbaracle fusions

[sour sigil]

middle evolution awkardness I guess

[slim nexus]

i cant wait to not see them

[barren lion]

opinions on Castform? Personally voted against it.

[silent acorn]

Not if I dox and hate mail the froggo to death
Jk jk

[rain locust]

balls, literally

[velvet root]

People have to make them tho

[lyric whale]

If we keep adding Pokémon from different regions ingame the map is gonna get crowded ngl

[gray vine]

nah dont like it much and even for fusions its kinda boring

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-angmerino-gif-26728878

[gray vine]

how?

[spice sage]

I would genuinely love barbaracle to get in

[velvet root]

All its fusions

[silent acorn]

Not complaining about saturation, I like it in fact

[sour sigil]

I voted 0 for castform

[bitter comet]

Just add the gen 7 region to the game

[upper echo]

more wondering how its gimmick will go

[stuck bane]

Probably ok since it was even included on the vote, but it may be another Goodra situation where it has to be heavily enforced

[inland jewel]

the idea people are using to push Castform is that when Forecast activates, you go through different weather sprites

[upper echo]

seems like a hassel for spriters or the devs

[inland jewel]

so for Castform fusions you get a 4 in one deal

[silent acorn]

You don't wanna open that can o worms

[velvet root]

What stops you from adding it

[barren lion]

also not like it can even make use of its main ability. the game has trouble with pokémon that changes forms

[hexed agate]

give us Lycanroc-Dusk for Tough Claws

[rain locust]

True!

[slim nexus]

me personally, im just voting against mons i dont want to sprite

[sour sigil]

I can work with basically any pokemon for fusions

[silent acorn]

Nani?! Now that's a plot twist... Then just add it

[gray vine]

i would argue it gets the same treatment as aegeslash

[upper echo]

many fusions could be added for the same amount of effort tbh
or work could be done on other alternate forms

[lyric whale]

Also if he can’t add another region to the existing map, why can’t he just make a new map we load into? Separate from the kanto johto one

[spice sage]

Nahhh it would be like a bunch of new weather forms! Like you fuse it with a sandshrew and bam you get sandstorm form castform 😄
I think it actually has a lot of potential

[hexed agate]

that's not Noivern bad

[slim nexus]

noivern is cool, that is ugly

[stuck bane]

Well there you have it, castform must be good to go

[slim nexus]

get that freak out of my face

[inland jewel]

but then how is Forecast going to work, since apparently it changes Castform's type

[silent acorn]

Wouldnt it have to deal with like multiple slots for the different weather forms changing in battle? I mean a unique sprite or same sprite type change? It's a doozy

[rain locust]

dont mimikyu fusions just not change when they get busted

[stuck bane]

I imagine it’s similar to Melo changing forms in battle with her typings

[rain locust]

itd just work the same with castform

[inland jewel]

thing is, that it goes back to base form outside of battle, so its more Necrozma-like

[hexed agate]

this SSP sprite is pretty atrocious though

[velvet root]

Skill issue

[upper echo]

then what's the point of adding it

[spice sage]

Probably yeah. I'll figure it out if it's added

[sour sigil]

castform seems like it does have some potential

[rain locust]

balls

[gray vine]

meh

[silent acorn]

Yeah this is the actual box of Pandora... How do we deal with the forms themselves?

[inland jewel]

like Necrozma,

[sour sigil]

I see potential in all these mons tbh

[slim nexus]

i guess i also dont want plusle and minun

[inland jewel]

since Forecast has always been in the bae pokeon games, a battle-only change

[silent acorn]

Don't break your brain on it please...

[hexed agate]

there are better rats

[upper echo]

I just see castform as not being worth it
a lot of work for a not very useable mon

[gray vine]

its design alone doesnt leave much and just for other weather forms? eh we get enough fusions to get other type mons to have those be cosndiered weather froms

[barren lion]

I am against all pikachu-clones

[sour sigil]

people really don't like the pikaclones huh

[cloud flume]

even conkeldurr (please say yes)

[slim nexus]

like pachirisu

[gray vine]

dont need to fuse a bulbasaur castform to get a rain bulbasaur

[stuck bane]

I have bias towards a plusle I used to have, but yeah there’s better options for now

[slim nexus]

the other pikaclones have distinguishable bodies

[rain locust]

im against mons who dont have comp use

[gray vine]

its a weird hatred so eh

[sour sigil]

Even though they aren't high personally, yes ofc they have potential

[cloud flume]

I like emolga and togedemaru

[hexed agate]

Togedemaru is the best out of the bunch

[sour sigil]

I too like emolga

[slim nexus]

plusle and minun would be virtually indistinguishable as bodies

[gray vine]

emolga and pachirisu are so good

[upper echo]

I just want more weather setters
or other mons with cool abilities

[sour sigil]

I never said I didn't like any of these mons

[barren lion]

that is why that got a 2 instead of a 1

[stuck bane]

Emolga would like a word, and the word is flying type with motor drive

[silent acorn]

PIKACLONE ALERT WE GOT PEOPLE ADDICTED WHO ESCAPED FROM THE PIKAPIKA CLINIC CAPTURE THEM

[gray vine]

oof comp talk

im out

[sour sigil]

what

[hexed agate]

I think the word is "Stone Edge"

[inland jewel]

consider this then

Top row is all mons that would add a New ability to IF

[mild sedge]

deploying eelektross slideshow

[barren lion]

I just wonder how WishiWashi will work. Can't really change its sprite after all when abiity activates. Just stat boost?

[sour sigil]

I say all these pokemon are great choices

[silent acorn]

Oh yeah comatose that's busted

[molten latch]

For some no reason I spelt Diapers than Dupes

[hexed agate]

it just overlays the sprite 10x

[sour sigil]

as long as I can work and make sprites with em

[inland jewel]

Like how Aegislash is

Stat change- no model change

[velvet root]

Only pure electric type*

[silent acorn]

Make a sprite with wishi then SCHOOL FORM

[sour sigil]

if it wins, maybe!

[spice sage]

Probably sinilar to necrozma

[silent acorn]

No, now. I Want to see if you suffer

[barren lion]

then I hope the fusion-sprites will use the big form as inspiration, not the small ones

[sour sigil]

but why

[stuck bane]

Yes because any rock type that isn’t lycanroc will be faster than Emolga body speed

[velvet root]

Only that the Wishiwashi bodys become disgusting to sprite

[sour sigil]

what did I do

[molten latch]

Bruh thats like two sprites which is too hard to make.

[silent acorn]

Because they are all amazing choices, so that means they should be easy to use right now

[upper echo]

I'd put amoonguss in value/good fusion material tbh
having a good stated spore user with regenerator is a massive boon

[inland jewel]

Wishiwashi fusions will be the big forms. The sad thing is, it'll use stats of baby form unless you have Schooling as the ability

[slim nexus]

points considered

ill give him a 1

[silent acorn]

People who want it don't understand that lol

[hexed agate]

a lot of them get accelerock, also Weavile (and fast ice types)

[barren lion]

that is a downside. Basically locking it into one ability.

[sour sigil]

them taking long doesn't make them bad really

[rain locust]

id like eel more if it had better defensive stats

[mild sedge]

oh yeah I used some info from ur paragraphs for the slideshow, you gave good info there ngl

[silent acorn]

No the sad thing Is having to sprite baby forms into school forms

[sour sigil]

I am just saying I'll be okay with the result :P

no matter what it is

[upper echo]

ok but consider this
fusing it with blissey to get a absurdly tanky mon

[inland jewel]

I can see it being like Aegislash where Stance Change does not at all change how it looks

[mild sedge]

any vote is appreciated :D

[molten latch]

But it's too much work for the artist.

[silent acorn]

It's physically and mentally demanding on who wants to take on that challenge

[hexed agate]

It'd be fun to design the Pokeballs that fit the Pokemon fused with Amoonguss

[silent acorn]

I am not saying the opposite..

[sour sigil]

are you a spriter

[inland jewel]

the only ons that actually change sprites is the ones with Type chagnes when it changes its forms

[sour sigil]

on this game

[hexed agate]

like a net ball for a bug/water, or dive ball for a water type

[upper echo]

I just like amoonguss
everything I said is secondary to me

[velvet root]

Cant wait for voltorb/Foongus

[silent acorn]

No but I heard a bunch of times that it's sucks to do it, I have tried spriting and it's taxing

[inland jewel]

other than that they'll just go the Aegislash route

[molten latch]

AMONG US

[barren lion]

often considered getting a blissey/shuckle fusion, just for the disgusting tank-stats

[stuck bane]

Unfortunately rotom gets levitate, but other than that everything looks good, and Eelektross still works as electric levitate no matter if head or body unlike rotom, great slideshow!

[mild sedge]

just a bigger Pokeball sprite lol

[inland jewel]

the argument is that Rotom gives ghost leveitate, which isn't unique