pif-hoenn-discussion

[hardy tartan]

wishiwashi

• swarms!!!!!!!!!!
• swarm of digletts!
• swarm of voltorb banging down down the stairs!
• 'mons that make bigger versions of themselves!!!

[molten loom]

Then what HA would they get?

[silent acorn]

I think just Castform changing types with the ability is better than making like a different set of sprites for each one

[dusty arrow]

competitive

[silent acorn]

BOTH because they are different beings

[mystic tiger]

I was confused about minior but I can see the possibilities for many sprites

[fathom ridge]

Maybe later I’ll sit down and do it

[forest vapor]

• fish army supremacy
• beware the fish
• 🐟

[hardy tartan]

deerling, sawsbuck

• more deer than just stantler
• still don't know how the seasons will work sprite-wise
• it's popular
• can be a headache or an opportunity depending how it's implemented

[velvet root]

Copper Armor goes brrrr

[silent acorn]

PFFFF I found Castform/Gardevoir

[fathom ridge]

Making tier lists is actually fun ngl

[fair atlas]

This game is going to have to get its [EXPLETIVE DELETED] together when it comes to determining gender of fusions and losing genders before Espurr gets introduced into the game.

[mystic tiger]

[strange ether]

heres your**~~ ver~~y friendly** reminder to vote for gastrodon our lord and savior

[dusty arrow]

vote ice type magikarp

[silent acorn]

Choose your season sprite selection

[molten loom]

Just remove gender entirely

[dusty arrow]

[hardy tartan]

solrock and lunatone

• sun and moon fusions
• more fun abstractions a la unown and such

[silent acorn]

The power I hold over the life of this channel is so big yet so small... What shall I do?

[forest vapor]

more deer are good

[fathom ridge]

Deer god

[dusty arrow]

good question
may i make a suggestion
(ice type magikarp)

[silent acorn]

NSFW FUSION INCOMING

[dusty arrow]

dies

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288

[hardy tartan]

drilbur, excadrill

• more moles
• drill hands can be made into different tools

[unkempt kernel]

L list, has pachirisu in 0 (It should be in 3)

[forest vapor]

I love these two but doubt they will get in, but part of me hopes I can one day see really cool symbolic fusions of them together (eclipse??) and with other similar mons

[dusty arrow]

• sand rush is funny

[silent acorn]

THE GARDBOO🐝

[dense perch]

how do you fuse pachirisu ?

[dusty arrow]

i mean even if they never get in, we can still get mega solrock and lunatone maybe (solgaleo and lunala)

[steep glen]

You have found the one use for that pokemon

[unkempt kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[dense perch]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-gif-13250124

[steep glen]

I want either one of the mantis pokemon, the Samurai bug or the fish swarm

[forest vapor]

• ridiculous speed stat I have to appreciate even if I don't like the mon that much

[placid pelican]

I gave it more than a 0 so thats better than any other pokemon except dragalge

[fathom ridge]

Now that I see it you gave barbaracle a 2, I thought I was the only one that liked that guy

[placid pelican]

Is it enough

[hardy tartan]

skrelp, dragalge

• i will hopefully learn to spell it
• dragalge but with more beautiful colors
• spriters can draw from irl leafy sea dragons for design ideas
• it's popular

[acoustic tartan]

vote for scraggy line if yall wanna see goofy loose pants and hoodies

[steep glen]

Or zebra

[placid pelican]

its me too

[dusty arrow]

it is enough, i have already voted dragalge a 3

[silent acorn]

We love It.

[steep glen]

Oh right or poison sea dragon

[dense perch]

hugh potential tbh

[placid pelican]

also who wants purple and acid in their fav pokemon

[dusty arrow]

do armaldo

[placid pelican]

I can try

[dusty arrow]

thank you

[hardy tartan]

Jangmo-o, Hakamo-o, Kommo-o

• final pseudo-legendary (which people seem to care about)
• nice scale design that can be exploited by spriters
• another Fighting 'mon

[fathom ridge]

Poison sea horse is pretty cool ngl

[unkempt kernel]

Nah fr, its cute and gives a diverse movepool to other mons, so could probs make something good out of it

[spiral musk]

dragalge would be a great addition

... but we already have so many dragons 😔

[placid pelican]

Dragalge aint a dragon

[dusty arrow]

• komodo dragon

[silent acorn]

successsssss

[placid pelican]

It just has its type

[spiral musk]

I meant the type

[hardy tartan]

snover, abomasnow

• different varieties of trees?
• Ice types
• yeti fusions (and perhaps other cryptids based on different trees?)

[velvet root]

my Skidron oxidizes

[dusty arrow]

i was thinking about kingdra/dragalge

[acoustic tartan]

eyo

[placid pelican]

Wo thats so fucking sick actually

[unkempt kernel]

Snow warning

[dusty arrow]

• snow warning

[placid pelican]

Adaptability surf kingdra

[unkempt kernel]

Wrong reply oops

[placid pelican]

[silent acorn]

VOTE THE FULL SEAHORSE SET AND YOU GET FULL KINGS

[velvet root]

dw

[fair atlas]

I couldn't remember my vote for Shellos, so I looked and......yeah, 1. Sounds right.

[forest vapor]

Kingking 👑

[hardy tartan]

grubbin, charjabug, vikavolt

• each stage has sharply-distinct designs from each other
• plugs and sockets
• Bugs are neat

[dusty arrow]

adaptability water spout kyogre

[spiral musk]

would it be dradra and kinggalge?

[sour stream]

vote camerupt for a slugma that dopesnt suck

[placid pelican]

OOOO

[velvet root]

Im really in a Goat mode rn
Anyone having good ideas
I just made 2 goats

[silent acorn]

don't talk to me or MA boi @Dragalge with that tone

[acoustic tartan]

medicham enters the chat

[dusty arrow]

make a motorcycle fusion (maybe magnegoat?)

[fair atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/spraywater-spray-prank-funny-shutup-gif-7261203

[hardy tartan]

ducklett, swanna

• another bird that's not Flying/Normal
• swans already have a ton of design is heraldry and such. i'm betting people can make some pretty pretty fusions with them
• ballet-themed fusions?

[placid pelican]

pory: but porygon can do that already YEAH BUT DRAGON WATER IS BROKEN

[velvet root]

I like the idea but I let better Spriters do that

[fathom ridge]

Yessss pls

[dusty arrow]

dragon/water is up there for one of my favorite types too

[forest vapor]

gogoat/meganium?

[placid pelican]

palkia our beloved

[dusty arrow]

• absolutely fucking insane special attack stat

[fathom ridge]

It also has a weirdly low speed

[placid pelican]

better

trick room >>

[dusty arrow]

yeah ive always thought that was weird
same with gogoat

[forest vapor]

I really do hope swanna gets in one day, its moveset really hindered it in main game

[twin phoenix]

I made a tier list but it's really hard to see on phone. These are my top picks.

[hardy timber]

Vote for Escavalier:

Knight design, good for fusion potential
A bug/steel type, which is a great type combo
Very good stats too (aside from special attack and speed)

[silent acorn]

BEHOLD GOD

[hardy tartan]

cryogonal

• another starmie?
• i think there's a starmie fusion that's just a reference to this
• neat faces?
• the polygonal shape seems exploitable, and might actually be a boon to new artists who are just starting to sprite?

[dusty arrow]

mewtwo/dragalge? (reminds me of mewtwo-y)

[silent acorn]

Why swanna? Do you identify with Duckett?

[placid pelican]

I see dragalge escavalier and mienshao in good tiers i liek it

[exotic steppe]

I am back briefly to mention the clauncher line
Because it is cool

Now I will go back to resting because I am sick

[acoustic tartan]

excavalier fusions finna be crazy

[placid pelican]

WOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[velvet root]

Interesting ngl

[hardy timber]

Based for having Escavalier in that tier.

[fathom ridge]

I approve

[twin phoenix]

I just like the pretty ones.

[deft obsidian]

B A S E D

[exotic steppe]

Also escavalier

[fathom ridge]

Here use this

[placid pelican]

Mewtwo and dragalge have pretty similar aura

Idk

[silent acorn]

God says you must pay

[hardy tartan]

litleo, pyroar

• lions
• the mane event could be exploitable
• not sure how they're gonna do the gender thing. alts, possibly? maybe everyone gets a special lion haircut

[dusty arrow]

thats the mincraft honey comb

[velvet root]

LOL XD

[exotic steppe]

I love that art who made it??

[dusty arrow]

adaptability psystrike lmao

[placid pelican]

Fuck clawitzer all my homies got pokemon Y for dragalge

[marble dagger]

oh my god is epic

[deft obsidian]

I vote 3 for swanna and lilligant and mienshao

[placid pelican]

💥

[velvet root]

Thats just sick

[hardy timber]

That's awesome!

[marble dagger]

guys! Escavalier Aegislash!

[silent acorn]

I did. Just kidding here is the brilliant mind behind it: mtz does comms

[velvet root]

Spriting king Mammuth spawned
Imagine the honor if he made a Gogoat 🤩

[hardy tartan]

spoink, grumpid

• spoink is a misery-gold mine for the spriters
• not sure what grumpig adds that the Unovan Fire starter won't
• springs and orbs? marbles sprites?

[dusty arrow]

TRUE

[exotic steppe]

But clawitzer is cool

They and dragalgae can be friends

Or perhaps… something more..?

[mild sedge]

I’m awake now

[dusty arrow]

cubone/spoink

[silent acorn]

Can hold hope for both tho

[exotic steppe]

Thank you for letting me know!

[placid pelican]

True

[hardy timber]

Yes!

[spiral musk]

only top tier picks

[silent acorn]

Honestly I have like 29 backup mons in case my main hope fails

[forest vapor]

I do like the idea of spring/marble sprites hmm

[acoustic tartan]

lance/spear

[exotic steppe]

Same

[hardy tartan]

stunky, skuntank

• dark horse option
• imagine this gets in like bruxish did. people will have to find interesting elements of its design
• butt face

[silent acorn]

We playing bingo people.

[dusty arrow]

metagross/escavalier?

[fathom ridge]

That’s good bc it means less chance of you getting disappointed

[dusty arrow]

honestly i feel like metagross could look really good with crawdaunt

[azure python]

OH HELL YEAH

[marble dagger]

too much potential amazing fusions

[exotic steppe]

Is there a galacta knight from kirby sprite in the game yet?

If not. Escavalier is right there.
Imagine.

[azure python]

I think triple fusion is a thing endgame sooo...

[dusty arrow]

i think i remember seeing one

[silent acorn]

that moment when you lose butt chin on evolution

[radiant arrow]

Please 🙏

[forest vapor]

I think skunk fusions would be really interesting to see

[fathom ridge]

I think there is but I can’t guarantee

[dusty arrow]

theres only specific mons that get triple fusions (like starters or legendary trios)

[marble dagger]

Clawitzer Metagross ahhhhhh

[exotic steppe]

Ah. Well that’s fair.

But imagine if there was another one???

[velvet root]

Thats adorable

[azure python]

Oh...

[hardy tartan]

corphish, crawdaunt

• crustacean representation
• all things return to crab
• idk, it's a crayfish dealie? maybe has a similar, simpler design to golisopod but less complex

[twin phoenix]

Oh yeah, the rest of my orange tier are Lurantis, Tsareena, and Drampa.

[dusty arrow]

• adaptability
• close combat
• dragon dance
• crabhammer

[silent acorn]

unironically many variants I seen made of skuntank cover it's eyes like this

[twin phoenix]

So many good choices, ugh~

[exotic steppe]

Ok now I really should go
Sitting up is making me not feel well

[hardy tartan]

cherubi, cherrim

• different flowers is spriter heaven

[twin phoenix]

Take care~

[velvet root]

You dont have a lot of free time and could maybe pretty please give a try on a Gogoat fusion?

[exotic steppe]

Thank you!
I’ll do my best

[eternal timber]

Skitty propaganda is, skittys tail is a cat toy

[hardy tartan]

archen, archeops

• yeet Defeatist
• colors
• feathered dinosaurs!
• i just like archeopteryx
• look at archeops' snakey head!

[analog stag]

Plus Ash had a corphish and it was funny

[silent acorn]

See Here is how you use skuntank right for a design

[marble dagger]

Gogoat Alakazam could be cool

[dusty arrow]

i really love skitty and delcatty, but like.. what else could they add beyond the funny wailord/skitty fusions? the cat toy idea is kind of neat but.. it also looks a lot like aipoms tail but watered down

[marble dagger]

or Gogoat Houndoom

[velvet root]

Funny enough that exists XD

[dusty arrow]

reminds me of moro from dragon ball super

[fathom ridge]

There are a lot of mons that would repeat the niche of another tbh

[hardy tartan]

munna, musharna

• one of the HA tracker ladies already has one
• cuter drowzee
• probably something you could do with the crystal ball shape and colors, plus the smoke/mist/etc emanating from musharna's head

[spiral musk]

Gigalith heads would be so good, not sure about bodies 😔

[velvet root]

Mammuth saying fusions we have

[marble dagger]

Gogoat Luxray, chimera

[fathom ridge]

It has a very unique body shape tho

[silent acorn]

gotta plug in my obligatory Shiftry quota

[eternal timber]

Aipoms tail is a hand, that’s completely different from a cat toy.
Skitty line would add a fully domestic cat line (meowth evolves into a puma). And you can have fun with the fact that they’re show cats

[velvet root]

If you want you can even check our sheets!
Would be a Honor if YOU find time to make one goat
#1213539303876206643 message

[silent acorn]

Ahem

[rough hound]

its been a while since i sprited ;-;

[dusty arrow]

staraptor + luxray = silvally

[fathom ridge]

Is much better than anything I could do and you did it SO fast, this sprite is INCREDIBLE

[hardy tartan]

swirlix, slurpuff

• more Fairies
• i don't like food fusions/pokemon as they freak me out, but that's probably an appeal to some others
• i do like the red eyes and pointy fangs of swirlix. could be another cute murderfluff

[spiral musk]

what about Glameow ? the tail is sorta like a cat toy

[dusty arrow]

• belly drum + unburden

[silent acorn]

mushy

[eternal timber]

my skitty support is super bias
Oh, glameow line is fine too. But im not sure if that’s actually a cat toy. Purugly can be a damn tank tho

[marble dagger]

as soon as I have a free moment, very willingly

[rough hound]

i am speed =P

[silent acorn]

moshy mushy

[sour stream]

some dorky old pixel. i know i can do better now

[dusty arrow]

sprite ice type magikarp ||/j||

[marble dagger]

[rough hound]

imma do some updates on the hands then get to work on absol

[hardy tartan]

wurmple, silcoon, beautifly, cascoon, dustox

• more bugs
• they're fine. dunno what they have that other early bugs don't, though

[spiral musk]

it remonds me of the cat toys that are fluff on the tip of a stick

[dusty arrow]

WAIT

[spiral musk]

who's ice type magikarp?

[fathom ridge]

Also how is it possible that you don’t have the spriter role

[silent acorn]

I am gonna show you an epic glammeow

[dusty arrow]

skitty could make cattail (pvz)

[marble dagger]

Gogoat Mamoswine!

[rough hound]

bc i spend all my time making fakemon or fusions that arent in IF lol

[spiral musk]

free him

[silent acorn]

hehehe hehe muahahahahaha

[dusty arrow]

i want to hug the ninetales one

[fathom ridge]

That’s based ngl

[spiral musk]

I love the ninetales

[silent acorn]

Personal favorite Samurott/Purugly

[eternal timber]

Purrloin is a Pokemon i love, but im afraid people will sprite it mainly bipedally. Plus we do have decent big cat representation. Espurr line i just personally am not a fan of because i like quadropeds. They are fully domesticated but, they’re also based on a breed that shouldn’t exist (all Scottish folds have weak cartilage, therefore they have arthritis issues fast)

[deft obsidian]

Samurott purugly goes hard

[silent acorn]

It's not so bad since it becomes quadruped fast and mostly walks quadruped.

[drowsy drift]

spriters who post here are good about keeping quadrapeds quadrapedal

[silent acorn]

I know right I actually change my mind on it after the first vote

[hardy tartan]

Pidove, Tranquill, Unfezant

• blaziken fusions that actually look like chickens/junglefowl
• have you seen show pigeons? Hatoful Boyfriend reference sprites when
• hairstyles
• jynx fusion already has a concept
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLnbiTkj1TQ

[eternal timber]

No purrloin is supposed to be like, 70% quad. 4 feet are way better for stealth. They just freaking forgot after gen 5

[silent acorn]

BBC huh?!

[fathom ridge]

Is this one a repeated one or I’m having a dejá vu

[dusty arrow]

biggest pigeon in the world (victoria crowned pigeon)

[trail hull]

gorgeous

[eternal timber]

Just look at how horrible the sitting cuties is, they forgot this cat sits like a cat

[hardy tartan]

i repeated it because i finally got to pidove on the doc

[marble dagger]

Swanna Gardevoir could be beauty!

[hardy tartan]

big beautiful chest?

[unkempt kernel]

Here is a Pachirisu to remind you to vote for him

[forest vapor]

I do love me some unfezant it was one of my favorites in gen5 👀

[fathom ridge]

Is also the prettiest pigeon

[dusty arrow]

true
i feel like a ducklett/psyduck could be very silly (AND ALSO BE NAMED DUCKDUCK)

[marble dagger]

or Escavalier Gallade ahhhh!!!

[twin phoenix]

Accelgor.. Bisharp, maybe?

[silent acorn]

Next contestant or showcase please

[unkempt kernel]

Good for a ninja fusion

[dusty arrow]

accelgor and ninjask
ninja bug + ninja bug

[fathom ridge]

I’m happy that my favorite mon is already in the game and I don’t have to suffer that much waiting for the results

[rancid wraith]

good afternoon

[silent acorn]

this one is insane

[hardy tartan]

bergmite, avalugg

• Ice types
• ice spirit that's not just an ice cream cone
• feel like that glacier beast could be exploitable
• i once made a Fire-type avalugg fakemon as a regional variant so i think it's neat

[dusty arrow]

water bubble water spout kyogre

[unkempt kernel]

More like cope

[twin phoenix]

I already have my two mascots in (Palkia and Meloetta) but it doesn't hurt to have more faves.

[hardy tartan]

finneon, lumineon

• pretty colors
• could draw from other tropical fish
• fish variety

[eternal timber]

I also did make a full happiny/glameow line of fusions

[rough hound]

alright im done with the first request, got any good absol bases?

[dusty arrow]

reminder that if swanna gets in we can fuse ducklett and psyduck to make duckduck

[silent acorn]

TRUE FELINE

[silent acorn]

Like poses?

[velvet root]

I like that stupid Purple cat its so pretty and PURPLE

[hardy tartan]

tympole, palpitoad, seismitoad

• look at these frogs
• look at their speaker warts
• alternative to quagsire with more design elements?

[dusty arrow]

true... but quagsire is still better on account of silly

[rough hound]

yea, i figured an absol body would be fun on this one bc all my toxicroaks are bodys so far, so a base sprite to work off would speed up the process. otherwise imma check pokemon cards and see about making an absol base

[silent acorn]

How this one?

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1240419551326245015

[hardy tartan]

burmy, wormadam, mothim

• some people really hate these guys?
• another moth
• different cloaks for different fusions?

[fathom ridge]

You could look on #assets-gallery there are a lot of bases there

[eternal timber]

Honestly a Pokemon i want in that isnt for cat bias is salandit, zangoose/seviper also need to be in together and they could make awesome paired fusions

[forest vapor]

• bioluminescense go brr
• marine auroras
• lumineon/suicune

[rough hound]

thing is im a sucker for dynamic poses, and nothing ive seen around this server fits my pickiness

[twin phoenix]

Blitzle and Zebstrika could use some love too.

[eternal timber]

There’s plenty of dynamic poses

[dusty arrow]

i want a zebra fusion (do we have an tiger pokemon?)

[hardy tartan]

Togedemaru

• pikeclone
• orb
• has some... neat pattens on its back? which are supposed to be spikes, so i guess people could emphasize the spike elements

[twin phoenix]

Raikou? And I guess Arcanine?

[spiral island]

I hope Solrock and Lunatone win so I have 2 new options for a Space themed Fusion Nuzlocke. Plus, a double fusion Lunatone and a Solrock and Lunatone fusion would look awesome

[dusty arrow]

true, i want a zebra/tiger fusion cuz it would look cool

[hardy tartan]

arcanine
fight me

[deft obsidian]

Seismitoad is cool , I voted 3 for it, but I doubt if anyone else vote, they looks so cool, blue and black with red eyes, massive move pool, red eyes, and good ability.

[unkempt kernel]

SPeaking of Pikaclones....Pachirisu sweep

[eternal timber]

Only in terms of aesthetics but aesthetics are what they want

[eternal timber]

casually tanks a draco meteor

[forest vapor]

#sprite-gallery message ?

[twin phoenix]

Some people want abilities and moves over looks. We have all kinds of people here.

[unkempt kernel]

Exactly, and it has a diverse movepool

[neon ferry]

can we all agree that spheal deserves in?

[dusty arrow]

ehh..

[rough hound]

yea i took a look, nothing feels like itll fit with a toxicroak fusion tho

[unkempt kernel]

No because Pachirisu is right there

[dusty arrow]

i like spheal, and walrein is great, but ehh
plus ice type magikarp better

[hardy tartan]

binacle, barbaracle

• it's like dugtrio but more bonkers
• cyclopean hands that are barnacles
• imagine all the faces on a 'mons hands that are then combined to look humanoid in a different way
• beautiful Cursedness potential

[placid jolt]

only one of the votes gives six new pokemon i think that is the clear and obvious best choice

[hardy tartan]

what about sealeo and walrein?
they're a package deal

[forest vapor]

Ahhh toxicroak, you might have better luck looking at lucario fusions

[eternal timber]

6 new Pokémon, is that the monkeys?

[neon ferry]

Pachirisu (and all other pikaclones mind you) is sucha boring mon design

[dusty arrow]

i feel like pinsir could be really cool
(the pincers being on the left and right heads)

[neon ferry]

I meant the line, but yeah.

[eternal timber]

Because monkeys kinda, infamously not liked

[deft obsidian]

But I like seimistoud because looks cool, I was just trying to get some vote for its ability/move pool.

[rough hound]

someone requested toxi and absol

[hardy tartan]

tropius

• a banana tree that's also a dinosaur that can fly
• imagine you're picking bananas on Kin Island and then you get the encounter
• whoops, you just plucked an entire pokemon
• different fruit trees?

[fathom ridge]

Would it be worth it to add the maximum amount of Pokémon even if they are the unova monkeys?

[dusty arrow]

i love simisage, and simipour is alright
there are only two elemental monkeys

[unkempt kernel]

Its cute, and actually one of the more unique Pikaclones, bare in mind its also the second most famous Pikaclone behind the Pikachu line for obvious reasons

[hardy tartan]

lillipup, herdier, stoutland

• moar dog
• moar dog for your dog
• 🤷

[dusty arrow]

simisage and simipour would be alright
there is no third elemental monkey

[dusty arrow]

• m u s t a c h e

[marble dagger]

Stoutland Alakazam ahaha

[forest vapor]

ah yeah that's a harder one. May want to check out lycanroc or houndoom custom bases for the quadruped feel if it's absol body

[deft obsidian]

You did swanna reasons too?

[hardy tartan]

wingull, pelipper

• we don't have a pelican yet
• i guess people might get freaky with that mouth
• my very first shiny was a wingull
• not a Normal/Flying bird

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/agl-ssj3-goku-goku-ssj3-super-saiyan-3-dragon-ball-gif-8205911541520462283

[neon ferry]

sure but pikachu line is overrated already, now you want to add in a mon that doesn't even evolve, which makes it immensely boring, and is just a wanna be pikachu?

[unkempt kernel]

The monkeys to me see like a waste of 6 slots, since they're all so similar in terms of design

[fathom ridge]

Is the fire one a collective hallucination?

[dusty arrow]

what fire one?

[kind forum]

Malamar.
that is all

[fathom ridge]

Malamar is a very fine choice ngl

[neon ferry]

I agree with malamar

[dusty arrow]

i like malamar
but spinda would be the silliest of the three contrary mons in the vote

[forest vapor]

I believe stoutland has some use as a tanky normal with a good moveset, and

• absolute maximum fluff
• arcanine/stoutland

[marble dagger]

Malamar Gardevoir i can see very well, or Malamar Jynx

[dusty arrow]

malamar/bellsprout

[marble dagger]

[forest vapor]

Tropius got a good bit of traction last time around, I'd be surprised to not see it again. Exeggutor/Tropius also

[unkempt kernel]

Pikachu isn't overrated, its the mascot, its going to get a lot of exposure. While pachirisu doesn't evolve, that doesnt make it boring. You can do a lot of things with the squrriel elements, plus its the only Squrriel mon that can be added to PIF, as we cant add the Skowvet line from Galar. PAchirisu has quite the diverse movepool, and pretty solid Sp.Def, taking a Draco Meteor. It's overall a well rounded mon and could be more interesting than say the elemental monkeys, which mind you, are a set of 6 that all basically look the same so thats just more sprite bloat in my eyes

[marble dagger]

What about Hippowdon and Tyrantrum? super bite force

[dusty arrow]

SQUIRtle
is a squirrel turtle
pretty sure they are kinda of squirrels

[hardy tartan]

elemental Monkeys

• greaser, hippie, and... i don't know what stereotype the third one's supposed to be. i knew it once
• more humanoids
• could play around with other hairstyles
• triple fusion potential
• simisage's pomadour (Elvis fusions)
• tbh, i'd prefer if they were only one monkey and they'd get different designs and hairstyles based on fusions, a la unown

[forest vapor]

bite force to make arceus shudder

[unkempt kernel]

Squirtle is Squirt and turtle, not a squirrel and ppl who say it is are just straight up wrong

[deft obsidian]

Hippowdon is so epic

[dusty arrow]

fine then
but still, pachirisu really doesnt add much honestly

[weak trellis]

who's to say we can't use a snorlax/pachirisu alt to add greedent in spirit?

real talk tho with the triple fusion I'd only like that if we had triple fusions be more active like what's obtainable vs what's in the sprite folder

[unkempt kernel]

Adds more than whatever ice type magikarp is

[fathom ridge]

Does the Japanese name have anything about squirrels

[dusty arrow]

i dunno didnt look

[hardy tartan]

blitzle, zebstrika

• zebras
• man, i like blitzle's design as an electric equoid that i don't know how it'd look applied to other designs

[dusty arrow]

how DARE you

[neon ferry]

I agree with you on your point about the monkeys. I didn't vote for the monkeys. But, I disagree about the squirrel. The squirrel just doesn't do it for me when compared to the potential sprites adding Inkay/Malamar, for example, could give us.

[twin phoenix]

Zenigame (Squirtle) means coin turtle. The coin references the pattern on the back of its shell.

[marble dagger]

for me the most important thing is that there are Escavalier, Archeops and Ice Magikarp

[hardy tartan]

pumpkaboo, gourgeist

• Halloween
• different types of gourds
• jack-o-lantern faces

[dusty arrow]

prize

[neon ferry]

Can someone please tell me who Ice Type Magikarp is??

[unkempt kernel]

Pachirisu isnt the best choice yes, i just want my favourite mon in the game, thats it really, but i do think its has some uses in PIF with its great Sp.Def and diverse movepool

[rough hound]

Absol toxicroak is being postponed i now have a baby bird

[fathom ridge]

Is a collective hallucination

[neon ferry]

I see.

[dusty arrow]

wdym? hes real, hes right here in the vote

[unkempt kernel]

This adds like nothing, we alr have the two useless fish mons in Feebas and MAgikarp, we dont need a third

[hardy tartan]

bounsweet, steenee, tsareena

• rule 2 hugger
• those legs, man
• some people want it to be lesbians with leavanny
• maybe different plant dresses?

[fathom ridge]

If you look the fire monkey is also there

[dusty arrow]

no it isnt

[rough hound]

Himb

[fathom ridge]

?tag rule 2

[opal trail]

No tag rule found.

[fathom ridge]

Whats the rule 2?

[dusty arrow]

it adds more than pachirisu

[unkempt kernel]

Doubt

[eternal timber]

Technically we could get emolga but emolga doesn’t have the prestige

[dusty arrow]

nsfw iirc?

[neon ferry]

No suggestive material? I think.

[fathom ridge]

Yeah that makes sense

[unkempt kernel]

Exactly (I have a distaste for Emolga due to Elesa in BW2)

[hardy tartan]

patrat, watchog

• those gd eyes
• safety vest chest
• gawky enough that it could force interesting designs a la bruxish

[neon ferry]

I just never liked any of the pikaclones, in general.

[marble dagger]

could be cool Escavalier Marowak

[hardy tartan]

emolga

• flying squirrel
• pikaclone
• i do think spriters can do something cool with those arm flaps

[fathom ridge]

I’m glad this community is usually very nice I don’t think I have ever seen anything too bad

[dusty arrow]

is mimikyu an exception

[kind forum]

you should see our automod

[fathom ridge]

Is mimikyu really a pikaclon?

[eternal timber]

Each pikaclone has something unique going on, they’re all valid except maybe plusle and minun (they’re odd and their whole gimmick is being paired)

[dusty arrow]

yes.. it is..

[unkempt kernel]

Mimikyu isn't offically classed as a Pikaclone iirc

[neon ferry]

Kind of cause it isn't just an electric mouse like thing. but also no, not a fan.

[fathom ridge]

Uhhhh no thanks

[dusty arrow]

oh wait its just a satire of the concept of pikaclones-

[unborn stratus]

Well..Golizopod , If he wins, would he be more body or head in the mergers? (even though the answer is already obvious) in your opinion?

[tender plank]

feeling generous, whichever pokemon gets first in this copy and pasted marble race gets a free 3 vote from me

[hardy tartan]

lotad, lombre, ludicolo

• hats
• Dancer potential?
• i might need to stop for lunch. i can't think rn

[dusty arrow]

• lotad/wooper

[hardy tartan]

looper?

[dusty arrow]

yes

[twin phoenix]

Oh, it's been a while since I last watched a marble race video.

[eternal timber]

I need to actually look at the list and see what all is paired, i will complain if zangoose and seviper arent paired

[dusty arrow]

plus just imagine how silly the fusion would be

[fathom ridge]

I mean Togedemaru was also added in gen 7 and the rest of the pikaclones are electric type so idk if it is technically a pika clon

[unkempt kernel]

They are

[hardy tartan]

they're paired

[dusty arrow]

its not

[eternal timber]

Good, im not sure they were last time

If zangoose gets in can we all collectively agree to ignore the black claws and make them purple? To bring back part of their theming that was lost in gen 4

[dusty arrow]

yes

[upper echo]

They're paired unlike shellmet and karrablast who literally use each other to evolve

[dusty arrow]

also ngl, i feel like the purple claws may be an outcome of gen 3 shading, rather than a design thing

[neon ferry]

Yeah, that was a weird decision...

[placid pelican]

erm

Dragalge

[eternal timber]

Nope, it’s in the theming, the shinies kept it. Their weapons match the color of the others scars

[placid pelican]

Im dragalge

[unkempt kernel]

Well you cant trade with others in PIF so i kinda get it cus they'd change the evo

[kind forum]

never heard of them

[placid pelican]

Vote dragalge

[forest vapor]

Flying squirrel will have a good few design options, it's my favorite of the pikaclones

[placid pelican]

And ignore mods that are pokemon but are asking for another one

[neon ferry]

I don't disagree with dragalge, it could make for some cool sprites.

[upper echo]

True but you could always make it like remoraid and matyne

[forest vapor]

definitely lunch. food is important

[kind forum]

[dusty arrow]

oh ig they are, nvm continue on then

[eternal timber]

They’re still inherently tied together

[unkempt kernel]

IG but iirc Mantyne in PIF doesnt need remoraid to evo

[placid pelican]

You and pory

Dead to me until vote is over

[upper echo]

Excavalier quite literally has shellmets shell on it

[neon ferry]

lol

[kind forum]

brb changing name to just Malamar

[placid pelican]

And pfp

For a year

Like i did

[chrome belfry]

pls

[fathom ridge]

If I had to make a guess I think I would say either gogoat or golisopod will win

[marble dagger]

Escavalier Marowak could be beauty ahhh

[eternal timber]

Cant wait to slap a 3 on salazzle

[marble dagger]

Salazzle Gardevoir or Salazzle Charizard

[upper echo]

Hoping a weather setter wins
Preferably a snow setter

[molten loom]

It was Lurantis and Leavanny that were the lesbians

[fathom ridge]

I’m scared of what people will do with salazzle

[eternal timber]

I love salazzle for combining the salamander myth with poisonous salamanders

[past jackal]

Castform ftw

[marble dagger]

Salazzle Lopunny 😛

[dusty arrow]

salazzle/marowak (alolan marowak form specifically)

[hardy tartan]

pretty sure i also saw tsareena in the mix there somewhere

[dusty arrow]

i feel like the colors could look very pretty

[hardy tartan]

regardless

[marble dagger]

yes

[fathom ridge]

The one that terrifies me is milktank

[forest vapor]

Considering gardevoir already exists we have rule 2 precedent to reduce the issues a lot

[tender plank]

poly couple

[marble dagger]

poor Miltank ahahah

[eternal timber]

Charizard, give her the wings she deserves

[forest vapor]

#sprite-gallery message

[past jackal]

Please no Salazzle 🙄 whose idea was this pokemon design

[hardy tartan]

irl whiptails

[marble dagger]

now that I think about it I've never done a fusion with Miltank

[eternal timber]

It was a genius idea. She’s a wonderful pokemon.

[fathom ridge]

Actually that one is not that bad

[eternal timber]

Honestly i wish salandits gender ratio was swapped to match the Hawaiian geckos

[hidden relic]

good morning gamers

[eternal timber]

Mourning geckos can have sons sometimes it’s just rare

[fathom ridge]

Is not morning where I’m am I can’t believe you didn’t think of that

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-good-morning-gandalf-morning-morning-gandalf-morn-gif-17912632

[hidden relic]

🤯

[past jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-squirrel-pokemon-pokemon-pachirisu-adorable-gif-17099886384054803802

[unkempt kernel]

Yes, the best pikaclone

[past jackal]

I need to see all the cute squirrel fusions 💙

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/emolga-hearts-pokemon-cute-gif-20933875

[forest vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/эмолга-emolga-pokemon-emolga-gif-8636573507949807050

[velvet root]

Sorry but Emolga is my fav Pikaclone qwq

[past jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-cinccino-cinccino-charm-gif-26946677

[forest vapor]

same

[past jackal]

Chinchillas also adorbs

[unkempt kernel]

Disgusting volt switcher

[forest vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/flying-tank-tank-flying-airplane-cope-gif-26175757

[hardy tartan]

sour grapes

[mild sedge]

Had to deal with it in black and white, it’s going to be the most annoying little thing I’ve ever seen.

still kinda cute but there’s probably better options rn

[unkempt kernel]

Pachirisu being the better Pikaclone option

[forest vapor]

I don't really use volt switch and didn't see it much in B/W, but mostly love the design moreso than other pikaclones. I kind of wish it had more going for it than volt switch tbh

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-emolga-cute-anime-gif-23364796

[eternal timber]

It was Elsas that traumatized people

[ornate lantern]

I'd love to throw in my hat to this race and hear me out but we vote for the best pikaclones Plusle and Minun

[mild sedge]

I get medicham pure power is good but the fusions are gonna be hell imo

[eternal timber]

Just like that one galactic admin had a nasty glameow and whitney has miltank

[forest vapor]

if you're saying emolga was used a lot in battle subway though... battle subway was rough

[hollow creek]

Emolga is the only pikaclone I like

[mild sedge]

oh hey dark

[hardy tartan]

sell me on their potential

[ornate lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/plusle-minun-pokemon-gif-22931162

[dusty arrow]

the only pikaclones i really like arent going to ever be able to be in the game, and i also prefer togedemaru and dedenne over both pachirisu and emolga

[unkempt kernel]

Best Pikaclones

Says the worse two that only work in double battles

Pachirisu is right there

[forest vapor]

Lati complement fusions
pika line * pikaclone fusions
Plus/Minus ability in doubles?
not a lot else I can think of

[eternal timber]

Yeah their gimmick is way too dependent on double battles

[charred umbra]

it's gotta be Shiftry, he is way to cool not to be added

[dusty arrow]

i love shiftry

[forest vapor]

Dedenne is my second favorite pikaclone, I like the idea of togedemaru but something about where they put the lightning tail just makes it odd for me :(

[hardy tartan]

this is the first shiftry propaganda i've seen
sell me on it 😌

[bitter comet]

I love this lad but there are a lot of Pokémon I would choose over him that are not in the game rn

[ornate lantern]

okay okay okay, so you get two very unique colors light blue and red, you get an electric type, they're cute and instead of one mouse pokemon there would be two! Also there fusions could be interesting like plusle is always positive and happy while minun is negative and sad?

[eternal timber]

They’re more bunny than mouse

[unkempt kernel]

Shiftry could make some cool Tengu / Oni fusions so i'd be down for it (Rather have Pachirisu but still would be cool), would have loved it for my traditional japanese run

[mild sedge]

still holding out hope on eelektross or gigalith

[ornate lantern]

Also I'm joking here, they won't get in BUT vote for my boy Toxicroak!!

[eternal timber]

I think they just need to be rodent adjacent to be a pikaclone

[tender plank]

i'm back and here are the results of that race. uhhhh, yeah i did not expect this outcome.

[eternal timber]

Is durant paired with heatmor

[unkempt kernel]

No

[silent acorn]

... Thats some nonsense lol

[forest vapor]

nope it's one or the other
sadly

[ornate lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-pokemon-pokémon-croagunk-marching-gif-12099653883329450362

[silent acorn]

How does it work?

[dusty arrow]

pinocchio
leaf hands and the hair could lead to good designs
i think it fused with eevee could look very good, combining the hair/fur, along with the ears being very similar
it could have some cool ancient forest deity designs, and theres in-game folklore of shiftry being an evil bird before its wings and beak were replaced

[ornate lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/toxicroak-cross-ch-toxicroak-uses-cross-chop-cross-chop-gif-26863528

[tender plank]

they just went down like 7 of these spinner things
(them 4 never left the first room btw)

[marble dagger]

Shiftry Alakazam good potential

[hardy tartan]

gothita, gothorita, gothitelle

• rule2 hugger
• counterpart to solosis line
• gives goth aesthetics

oranguru, passimian

• better monkeys than the eleMonkeys (yes i know apes aren't monkeys)
• more design elements to work with
• sportsball player
• you could do a lot with the clothing/jerseys

[hidden relic]

what's ur personal want mammuth

[unkempt kernel]

Could also get a Kabuki dancer out of it too, or uh, whatever the this is from Ninpu Sentai Hurricanger (Odeo HurricaneRed inspired look)

[hardy tartan]

carbink

• it's a rock
• another fairy type
• simple and clean, leading to a lot of potential imagination for different kinds of rock

[marble dagger]

Escavalier Archeops, I would have also liked Grimmsnarl but unfortunately it's not there

[velvet root]

[hidden relic]

Escavalier is one of my big hopes too

[unkempt kernel]

I hate you for this (Joke)

[twin phoenix]

If Gothitelle or Medicham don't make it, I hope for Escavalier or Lilligant.

[forest vapor]

ok now this I can vibe with
I was almost going to say it's not possible though BUT there are two votes...

[hidden relic]

Because since they are not grouped together with Shelmet....||Frog may just add both, for sake of convience ||

[mild sedge]

imagine a bobbit worm esque eelektross fusion
or dune worm

[unkempt kernel]

I think Gothitelle is my number 2 want

[kind forum]

https://tenor.com/view/inkay-gif-23593654

[hardy tartan]

bunelby, diggersby

• rabbit fusion without the rule2 hugging that lopunny is
• ear arms
• gawky looks means more interesting things to incorporate into fusions (a la bruxish)

[marble dagger]

Gothitelle fused with Gardevoir for sure

[hardy tartan]

sell me on gothitelle

[bitter comet]

I feel like Eelektross head fusions would give us good potential Eldritch horror fusions alongside Malamar

[ornate lantern]

Toxicroak:
*Frog
*poison AND fighting type
*awesome design that could form multiple cool fusion including a Wolverine,X-23 fusion :D

https://tenor.com/view/toxicroak-tuesday-gif-22972910

[unkempt kernel]

As you alr said, rule2 hugger, goth looks, but more humanoid variety would be nice from say Lopunny or Gardevoir, and Solosis needs its counterpart, plus i think its just a great mon and would lobe to experiment with it

[mild sedge]

exactly, plus it’s another levitate giver

[hardy tartan]

inkay, malamar

• mollusc representation
• inversion leads to cool designs
• cool hat
• tentacles
• dapper vest
• mad scientist hair

[hidden relic]

This drive here can help you understand what some mons have to offer:

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1DC-UjGEy9JJ1_olDJhHjPfuApiKEzPPh

[twin phoenix]

It knows what the end looks like: the end of existence, the end of its trainer..
Sends blissful dreams to ease the pain of existence.
If stars are too far away for our technology to see, it will bring those stars into view.
Strong black and white appearance with layers and cute bows.
Tanky Psychic type with Shadow Tag.

[hardy tartan]

is that a rickroll

[hidden relic]

No

[ornate lantern]

just saying toxicroak would be an awesome addition

[hardy tartan]

gulpin, swalot

• no idea what this adds that muk doesn't
• weird pattern? feather thing? mustache?

[tender plank]

no tirtouga representation 😔

[unkempt kernel]

Gulpin adds the funny meme of gul-

[marble dagger]

Swalot Wailord ahahaha

[hidden relic]

No one made one for that contest

[eternal timber]

Gulpin and swalot are stomachs and acid instead of toxic sludge

[tender plank]

rip

[forest vapor]

• mouth

[hardy tartan]

crabrawler, crabominable

• boxer! lookit crabrawler's Rock Balboa-lookin looks!
• yeti fusions
• more Fighting and more Ice types

[marble dagger]

Crabominable Machamp

[ornate lantern]

Croagunk and toxicroak for president 2024-I mean infinite Fusion!!

[hardy tartan]

mudbray, mudsdale

• What do you see? You see an ass-head of your own, do you?
• more horses with different design elements
• the dreads are cool

fomantis, lurantis

• another one misspelled
• lesbians
• bellbottoms
• cool blade arms (and cool hat in the prevo)

[eternal timber]

More horses? Only one of them is a horse

[hardy tartan]

yeah, i know
i mean more horses to choose from within the game

[ornate lantern]

horses are so last year frogs are wayyy cooler and cuter

https://tenor.com/view/frog-hat-gif-24889203

[hardy tartan]

bronzor, bronzong

• animate inanimate objects make the best fusion ingredients
• cool face designs
• variations of mirrors and gongs from across the world

[ornate lantern]

now imagine that frog as a poison laced boxer that has purple claws!

[hardy tartan]

volbeat, illumise

• i don't think i've seen propaganda for these
• guess they have interesting "clothes" that might look neat when applied to different body types
• more cute Bugs

[ornate lantern]

Volbeat is better as a band js

[velvet root]

Thats awesome

[forest vapor]

• mud fusions
• deadly hooves
• dreads/rasta
• high horsepower
• steeds of doom (ice/ghost fusions can nod to glastrier/spectrier)

[vapid current]

I actually really like mudsdale

[hardy tartan]

flabebe, floette, florges

• more Fairies
• different flowers leads to a lot of fusion design potential
• the ' in farfetch'd already gets yeeted. the same thing's gonna happen to the accent mark on flabebe

[vapid current]

I think the fl trio would be good... but I'd want them to also be grass 🙄

[velvet root]

What fl?

[vapid current]

Flabebe

[hardy tartan]

petilil, liligant

• in lesbians with lurantis
• maybe i'd learn to spell petilil
• seems like it just overlaps with flabebe but grass

[static oyster]

Thats the exact reason why i voted on florges really high

[velvet root]

But they only collect flowers, its not part of the bod

[vapid current]

See now those have my vote, I love the petilil line

[eternal timber]

It becomes part

[hardy tartan]

minior

• this one sprite sold me on it: #pif-hoenn-discussion message
• that's all you need

[eternal timber]

They collect flowers that they fuse with

[velvet root]

Where do they fuse with it?

[forest vapor]

lots of good flower & fairy potential and their stats/moves are pretty decent

[chrome belfry]

when do we find out which one won?

[eternal timber]

When they evolve for sure

[bitter comet]

When frog announces it

[velvet root]

Some weeks

[hardy tartan]

clamperl, huntail, gorebyss

• the lack of image in the doc is gonna hurt its chances
• people will mistake gorebyss for a dolphin
• idk, the evos are just so different i don't know how spriters will treat it to allow for thematic consistency? someone sell me on these guys

[mild sedge]

was whiscash in this vote because technically it could become the great zapfish

still hoping for my Boys eelektross and gigalith but for splatoon fans that would be cool

[hardy tartan]

buizel, floatzel

• otters
• gawky looks give spriters more to work with
• could do a lot with those floaties, design-wise
• the orange body and the blue fins look nice together
• two tails for weirdness

[clever vigil]

Thanks

[proud lion]

Arcanine Fusion

[eternal timber]

Also saying flowers arent part of flabebe is like saying a leek isnt part of farfetchd

[velvet root]

That doesnt say it fuses with the flower tho
Only that it uses it as home and protection

• only cuz it says it likely doesnt mean its a fact

[hardy tartan]

drampa

• fluffy dragon
• Falkor the Luck Dragon
• allows design elements that draw from old Chinese art
• can just be elderly versions of pokemon, but doesn't have to be
• you assholes better keep this one wholesome

[velvet root]

but tbh I dont really care

[hardy tartan]

shellos, gastrodon

• so many nudibranchs
• so. many. nudibranchs.
• look at them all
• perfect design inspiration

[mild sedge]

w, gastrodon is very silly.

[gray vine]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-gastrodon-pokemon-amie-gif-27484311

[hardy tartan]

purrloin, liepard

• svelte cat
• porple and yellow
• fun spot patterns
• idk, we already have meowth

[rough hound]

Dont forget 6 limbs, nice back "shell", 2 for one special and 3 eyes

[hollow creek]

Yknow who I want the most, turtonator

[gray vine]

ew

[hollow creek]

turty is peak design potential

[gray vine]

dude needs a pre evo before i care for him

[eternal timber]

Turtonator is a wonderful matamata

[gray vine]

or start being on all 4's

[gusty palm]

How are the politics going everyone

[rough hound]

I made a sprite in 10 minutes =)

[forest vapor]

• It will allow more milotic themed fusions but in huntail's case, with some bite to them
• clampearl treasure/pearl/bivalve themes
• deep sea scale/tooth references

[stuck bane]

Man what crazy timing for palworld to release an update that potentially ruins save files, so I guess I’m back here now

[gusty palm]

Oh cool may I see it?

[hardy tartan]

skiddo, gogoat

• entire gogoat event
• like torterra body but Grass type
• apparently it's a motorbike????
• horns are cool even though Shakespeare disagrees

[gray vine]

it did again?, i saved mine

[rough hound]

Im a bit rusty

[hardy tartan]

my current politics is going down the doc and evaluating each potential addition one by one

[hollow creek]

I gave the clampearl line a 2, just for huntail

[gray vine]

i just had to edit the amount of base pal total in the settings and boom i could join my world

[forest vapor]

f e a r

[gusty palm]

Oh this isn't bad at all, for a sprite without a base it's actually really good

[mild sedge]

yes, perfect representation of what horrors eelektross could bring

wings.

[rough hound]

Its a base i made a while back actually =P

[hardy tartan]

darumaka, darmanitan

• unit
• darmanitan is kinda heatran's body type a bit
• weird chonk owl thing that becomes ape thing
• anyone else want to add anything? idk

[eternal timber]

He stands because they have a tendency to stand up in the water

[gusty palm]

I guess it's still from scratch since you made the base too

[stuck bane]

Idk something about a recent update made things buggy around base and the Reddit was saying save files were being lost, so I’m not touching it

Anyways I think I still have all those notes on unova mons saved so if anyone wants them feel free to ask, but again ever since meloetta I’m not allowed to be mad at whatever is picked so I don’t have a huge stake

[gray vine]

there will be a turd on fire joke sprite

[mild sedge]

zen forms, I think? idk

[gray vine]

yes i get it, but let him be on 4s too

[forest vapor]

If I didn't know that was a turtle I would swear that's a kaiju

[gray vine]

he isnt even in water what a dumbass

[eternal timber]

Very unique turtles. I love their silly faces

[hardy tartan]

meditite, medicham

• humanoids that probably won't hug rule2
• i guess you could do cool stuff with the clothes?
• someone else give me something cool

[hollow creek]

Comfey, eelektross, crustle, turtonator and Carracosta are my top hopes

[eternal timber]

I’m gonna be honest, humanoid takes points away from a Pokemon for me

[hollow creek]

agree

[gusty palm]

Oh god I just thought of something, Eelektross/Tangela

[gray vine]

same

[weak trellis]

• pure power
• is a fighting type

[molten loom]

I'm fine with them

[mild sedge]

no.
I respect the support. But that is the last thing I want here.

just imagine it with bruxish or something

[gray vine]

i dodnt vite for any mon without anyother evo stage

[hardy tartan]

fusion with tauros for a bonnacon?

[rough hound]

But consider the following: dragalge

[gray vine]

no evolution makes em boring

[forest vapor]

• awesome zen fighting/meditative poses that aren't just alakazam or lucario
• mega medicham
• mega medicham
• ralts friend

[hollow creek]

and dragalgae

[hardy tartan]

i completely forgot they were Fighting
ah, because they're Fighting/Psychic 😌

[weak trellis]

I should make a list of sprites yall are makin for this and put em in a rando pool for another run since a lot of them are great

[eternal timber]

You’re boring then. Zangoose and seviper are a wonderful pair

[mild sedge]

yet even more. The horrors grow as we go along. Just imagine it with scolipede.

[forest vapor]

or pinsir

[gusty palm]

Talk about pairs, justice for our boys Accelgor and Escavalier they deserve to come together

[eternal timber]

Yeah, i agree with that

[gray vine]

meh

[mild sedge]

bruxish would just give it lips and a colorful sprite, but lemme think for a sec

[eternal timber]

I just personally am not a fan of either line. But that doesn’t mean they should be separated

[hardy tartan]

spheal, sealeo, walrein

• orb
• popular
• spheal might get all the oxygen and leave the evos unsprited
• seel and dewgong already exist
• walrus tusks are cool and exploitable

[gray vine]

im not playing with a mon that cant evolve, its the most fun thing for me

[mild sedge]

ninetales.

[gusty palm]

So do you not use legendaries

[eternal timber]

Single stages are so fun to sprite because it’s just done, no worry about evolution

[gray vine]

well each mon adds a bunch of fusions, they really dont need to be together just to make 1 matching fusion

[gray vine]

of course not, thats even more boring

[gusty palm]

Honestly kinda based

[eternal timber]

It’s not for the matching fusion. It’s because it’s weird to have access to one and not the other

[gray vine]

i lvoe legends tho, legends should be single stage, there its the opposite for me, i dont like that kubfu is considered a legendary

[gusty palm]

Also I wonder what reference sprites we could make with these options

[hardy tartan]

morelull, shiinotic

• more Fairy types
• mushroom that won't get swarmed with amogus jokes
• different mushroom species that aren't parasitic (since paras has that niche covered 😌 )

[forest vapor]

I was more imagining the horror of a weakness-free volcarona, thankfully that is not what would happen but I still had to quicksprite my fear

[eternal timber]

So you also dont like cosmog line huh

[gray vine]

in this game it doesnt matetr so i dont see why it is

[eternal timber]

Because it feels wrong, that’s why. That’s why the monkeys are paired, and zangoose and seviper

[hardy tartan]

hopefully Zygarde is never added so we can always have access to Thousand Arrows (my beloved)

[gray vine]

its fine, they are kinda more alien in nature, deserve to be unique, especially since the first 2 forms are even worse then Magikarp

[velvet root]

Pov Heatran

[eternal timber]

They’re probably from a universe where it’s normal for legends to evolve tbh

[forest vapor]

heatran is disrespected by mud slap

[gusty palm]

I mean Poipole's dex entry says that it's commonly used as a starter in it's homeland

[hardy tartan]

basculin

• feeeeeesh
• angy salmon
• tbh, a normal-ass fish could be an interesting challenge for spriters

[eternal timber]

Yeah, that’s a universe where starters arent the basic type triad and can be 2 stages

[velvet root]

It has Flashfire and Steel type as second type
Aka every bug head or grass head can go with no weakness

[gusty palm]

We already have Carvanna tho

[eternal timber]

Each ultra beast is from a different universe

[hollow creek]

"All of those mons are pretty special and can be done in waaayyyy more unique ways than just a vote." for legendaries and starters in the announcement made it sound like they're definitely coming in the game sooner or later

[velvet root]

Starters are comfirmed a long time already

[hardy tartan]

that's not a normal-ass fish. that's a pirana with brilliant colors

[eternal timber]

It’s because they dominated the votes last time

[forest vapor]

ok yeah that is a bit more fear 👀
thankfully it loses fire stab that way though too, but quiver dance still exists

[hollow creek]

and maybe an ultra beast or two

[eternal timber]

But also the legends and ultra beasts cant just be added, those need events with them because they’re special

[gusty palm]

Brilliant? It's dark blue, red and yellow I've had pet fish with cooler colors than that

[hardy tartan]

heatmor

• anteater that's a flamethrower
• imagine it but it doesn't look like it's wearing pajamas
• cool pipe and engine designs with the weird tube nether regions

[stuck bane]

Guys please remember that even if we can’t get unova starters we can still get budget unova starters vote monkeys

[eternal timber]

We will be getting the starters tho

[hardy tartan]

vibrant, then
i mean, compare to basculin's colors

[gusty palm]

Wait now that you bring up Heatmor, it and Durant are also a duo yet are separate votes

[velvet root]

You again XD

[eternal timber]

Probably, they would just dominate the votes, that’s why they’re excluded

[hardy tartan]

eventually
just want to point out they're not confirmed

[forest vapor]

I do like the idea of this one, one of the mushroom/fungi reps I'd want to get in most probably

[stuck bane]

That’s not all, UNOVA MAN TO THE RESCUE!

Heatmor: ant-eater fusions, also gets fire lash with a guaranteed defense drop, and good attack and special attack, also the only fire type to get hone claws, and the only fire type to naturally learn bind, and the only fire type to learn bug bite

[eternal timber]

They’re confirmed in a “ok we know you guys really want them” way

[gusty palm]

They keep the red accents, dark blue becomes green and instead of yellow accents and stuff it has the white stripes n' shit, if anything it's our only green fish

[velvet root]

Durant sounds like a candidat for type swap
Cuz its head fusions look more steel and bug

[bitter comet]

Imagine the ultra beasts being introduced by some horror like ARG thing. I feel like it would fit.

[gusty palm]

Didn't the Pogo channel do teasers for them in a similar way

[fathom ridge]

Very true

[bitter comet]

What now? What is that?

[stuck bane]

Here’s Durant too if we’re on the topic:

Durant: adds another bug type, and ant fusions, also a really good fusion body (100+ in all relevant stats), and the only steel type to get hustle, also literally the fastest steel type body in the entire game (unlike most steel types), and the only steel type body able to naturally learn bite, and the only steel type body able to learn sand attack, and the only steel type able to learn entrainment

[deft obsidian]

The one who made sheet probably never played unova

[gusty palm]

The Pogo channel posted teasers of the ultra beasts when they were being added, small clips of them, and they were almost catalogue tape-like, you can check it out for yourself

[bitter comet]

I don’t know what that channel is but ah

[gusty palm]

Pokemon Go?

[eternal timber]

Basically, the starters were somewhat confirmed way back when they were removed from the previous vote

[bitter comet]

Ohhhhhhh, I never heard it called that before lol.

[hardy tartan]

taillow, swellow

• normal birds
• guess you could do some cool stuff like standard-winged nightjars with the tail feathers
• idk, it lacks the coolest thing about irl swallows which is their reduced feet
• look, i gave propaganda for unfezant, someone else sell me on these guys

[gusty palm]

Ah ok that's understandable

[eternal timber]

I’m just procrastinating logging in to my google account to vote

[mild sedge]

tynamo, eelektrik and eelektross

• cute lil guy to eldritch horror
• can create some sick fusions
• levitate
• pretty powerful

[hardy tartan]

carnivine

• carnivorous plant. yes, we have victreebel, but this is a venus fly trap. it has jaws

[gusty palm]

More pokemon with that one ability whose name I forgot that benefits from poison/burn

[hardy tartan]

Guts, i think?

[stuck bane]

Eelektross: electric type with levitate guaranteed (it’s an electric type no matter if it’s a head or body fusion, unlike rotom), eel fusions, and good attack and special attack, also the only electric type to learn acid spray, and the only electric type able to learn bind naturally, and the only electric type to learn acid, and the only electric type to learn coil, and the only electric type to learn crush claw, and the only pure electric type with access to gastro acid, and also the only electric type able to learn headbutt naturally

[gusty palm]

I think so yeah

[bitter comet]

Damn, you are good at this propaganda stuff

[forest vapor]

• what is the approximate velocity of an unladen swellow
• a speed based bird cousin to pidgeot
• cool racerstripe designs with split tails

[stuck bane]

Had it saved from last vote, don’t think I ever finished it though but an we’ll

[crimson terrace]

Quick question before I do the poll, do we know if type null/silvally count under legendary?

[hardy tartan]

helioptile, heliolisk

• lizards
• could do cool things with those neck frills
• secondary Normal (aiui), which is rare for a pokemon
• i like electric lizards

[stuck bane]

Or, I mean, mostly finished, don’t remember what moves I was looking up for more reasons

[forest vapor]

also in cynthia fight he is fear incarnate

[mild sedge]

vote eelektross a 3 he is a very silly eldritch horror

[gusty palm]

Why would they not

[hardy tartan]

no idea, but they're not on the list

[crimson terrace]

Got it thanks

[humble lance]

vote eelektross cuz uhhhhhh fosh : >

[gusty palm]

Honestly Eelektross/Slowbro seems like a fun sprite

[forest vapor]

They are legendaries, that was fixed and they were removed from one of the last polls due to it. It's not super explicit in the games but it's true

[fathom ridge]

If eelektross won I would be quite pleased :>

[bitter comet]

Man, Eelektross has just surpassed Excadrill and is now on the top three for me

[humble lance]

slurpuff cool too : >

[gusty palm]

I wouldn't be mad with Eelektross winning but if I had to pick a Mon to win it's gotta be Golisopod

[hardy tartan]

sewaddle, swadloon, leavanny

• lesbians with lilligant/lurantis/one of those two
• sewaddle and swadloon are some of the cutest bugs. Kidskin was one of my favorites in Black
• nanny means maid outfits (probably)
• different kinds of leaves

[stuck bane]

Exca is good too

Excadrill: mole fusions, only steel type with sand rush, and the only ground and steel type that gets mold breaker, great attack and good hp, and fully evolves at level 31 (can be obtained directly after surge on hard mode with level caps), also the only steel type that learns horn drill, and only steel type that naturally learns rototiller, and the only steel type body to naturally learn mud slap, and the only steel type body to naturally learn mud sport, and the only steel type body to learn drill run naturally, and the only steel type body to learn earthquake naturally, and the only steel type to learn fissure naturally

[fathom ridge]

The only thing with eelektross is that is middle evolution would be very similar in heads

[hardy tartan]

sugary pasta? 🤢

[stuck bane]

Leavanny: mantis fusions (that are actually bug type unlike lurantis) and sewing fusions, also adds more bug and grass types, and is a mon used on ash’s team, good attack and speed, only grass type to get swarm, and the only bug type to get chlorophyll (fuse with Durant for super speedy chlorophyll boosted scizor?), the only grass type that can learn endure naturally, and the only bug type that can learn grass whistle, and the only grass type to learn sticky web, and also the only grass type to learn string shot, and is also the only grass type able to learn struggle bug, and gets entrainment (it’s the only grass type to get it besides petilil, but also all of leavanny’s body stats are better than Lilligant’s, so it still makes for the better grass type body), and the only grass type with access to fell stinger naturally, and Swadloon also brings the best head fusions in the whole game

[mild sedge]

again, silly lil guy to eldritch horror dynamic, I’d love to see how it goes

[gusty palm]

There's a dessert that is made with pasta tho

[bitter comet]

That is true, It’s still ranked 4 for me though because I hadn’t thought about Eelektross’s Eldritch horror potential for fusions and now I have so it is now instantly ranked higher lol

[hardy tartan]

oh. those wafer discs looked like meatballs at first

[gusty palm]

Oh the dessert isn't very similar to what the sprite is showing I was just saying that desserts with pasta aren't non existent

[forest vapor]

hmm I didn't think leavanny was better than lilligant, but somewhat reconsidering. Fell stinger is good but all fusions would be leaf bush and no flower

[kind forum]

Malamar

[hardy tartan]

scraggy, scrafty

• i love him. one of my faves in Black
• horror potential for the shed skin baggy pants?
• more Fighting types
• I don't know if I like him because I think he'd be good in PIF or if I just love him as he is

[hollow creek]

These were the results of the spriter choice poll, I imagine a general vote would look similar (minus rockruff obviously)

[mild sedge]

eldritch horror potential along with eelektross

[stuck bane]

Bro I’m unova man I got this locked down

Lilligant: it WAS an overworld Mon, adds more grass types, it’s counterpart is already in the game, could bring the hilarious Pokédex entry “as soon as it finds a male partner,…” “it lives along lakes” (turtwig), “it can barely stand up” (ponyta), “it blows up at the slightest stimulation” (weezing), “their bodies are covered in wounds” (Deino), “it takes cover if it senses any hostility” (ralts), “they use all three heads to consume and destroy everything” (Hydreigon), good special attack and speed, only pure grass type that gets own tempo (for grass type head and body fusions), and it also learns petal dance unlike ludicolo, and is the only pure grass type with access to entrainment

[gusty palm]

I Iike to see Golisopod in there

[stuck bane]

Scrafty: adds more fighting types and dark types, baggy pants fusions, Mohawk fusions, and is a Mon used on ash’s team, only fighting and dark type with access to shed skin, also the only fighting type to naturally get moxie, and good attack/defense/special defense, also the only dark type with access to brick break naturally, and the only dark type head with access to chip away, and the only dark type with access to facade naturally

[hollow creek]

I dont see any mon other than golisopod winning the vote, its most popular with regular players and spriters

[hardy tartan]

turtonator

• matamata turtle, ergo neat spikes
• land mine fusions (interesting if it'll be treated similar to stunfisk)
• isn't there also a kaiju it draws from as inspiration?
• Bonnacon fusion with tauros

[deft obsidian]

Damn, I thought gigalith is popular

[tender plank]

MY tirtouga reasons

they're the only turtle pokemon with flippers, that's something, right?
carracosta also look like a dying old man, that could have some fusion potential i think
i like fossils, they are yoimy little fellas
uhhhhh
errrrrmmmm
idk, i'm just putting my own input and hoping it sways someone
soooo vote tirtouga? please? it'll make me very happy :)

[forest vapor]

I think crustle and ludicolo might drop a few tiers this round but the rest seem like they'll be up there again
I have a hard time seeing much compete with Goli so it's more who gets 2nd

[tender plank]

as you can see, i'm VERY persuasive (very)

[hollow creek]

Carracosta is badass

[stuck bane]

Wait fossils were separate weren’t they?

[tender plank]

sadly (i want both of them, i need my fossils)

[gusty palm]

Honestly Golisopod could also be a very good mon for fusions since he's already a pretty competent pokemon

[mild sedge]

a

[hardy tartan]

foongus, amoonguss

• more overworld fake pokeball shenanigans
• amogus jokes
• more mushrooms that aren't paras
• tbh, someone else needs to make a case for this one, because the potential for amogus spam is too great

[hollow creek]

Ngl I feel like its gonna be archeops, lurantis or the big boot thing

[deft obsidian]

1.For first reason: lapras exist
2. I voted 2 : )

[stuck bane]

In the previous vote it was both so ima just leave this here:

Fossils: if chosen, 100%’s the fossils from every region, both mons and preevos are unique and make for cool fusions, dropping defeatist from archeops gives a great BST with no drawbacks, and Carracosta would be the only water type with solid rock, carracosta also brings great defense and good attack, while archeops brings great attack with good special attack and speed, carracosta is also the only non-legendary rock type body to learn curse, and archeops is also the only non-legendary rock type able to learn quick attack, and the only rock type to learn double team naturally, and the only fully evolved rock type head able to learn dragon breath naturally

——
Amoongus: gets regenerator, adds more grass types, if picked 100%’s all the poison types from unova, and is a team rocket Mon, and is the only poison type that can naturally learn effect spore, also makes for good overworld pokeball encounters, we can also get Mr. Gus from foongus, and it’s the only poison type body with access to astonish naturally, it can also bring fusions of Pokémon being disguised as pokeballs or other interactable items, and it is the only grass type to naturally learn clear smog, and the only poison type body with access to feint attack

[gusty palm]

Jesus Christ text wall jumpscare holy fuck time to read it all

[hardy tartan]

vullaby, mandibuzz

• punk chick
• caveman vibes
• vulture. there are lots of vultures you can draw from as inspiration. have you seen the egyptian vulture? it looks like a disney villain!

[stuck bane]

I have these for all unova mons and oh boy time to find mandibuzz

[hardy tartan]

skill issue on your part tbh

[mild sedge]

gonna repost this rq to keep him relevant

tynamo, eelektrik and eelektross

• cute lil guy to eldritch horror
• can create some sick fusions
• levitate
• pretty powerful

[forest vapor]

I would honestly lose my mind if archeops gets in he would be so awesome

[gusty palm]

Read it all tho

[rancid nymph]

If I had a nickel for every piece of propaganda in this chat, I’d be rich

[stuck bane]

Braviary/mandibuzz: eagle and vulture fusions, braviary brings a great attack and good hp, and is the only flying type to naturally get access to sheer force, mandibuzz brings good hp, defense, and special defense, mandibuzz also brings more dark types and is also the only dark type to get big pecks, the only dark and flying type to get overcoat, and the only dark type to get weak armor, braviary is also the only flying type able to learn superpower naturally, and the only flying type with access to crush claw, whereas mandibuzz is the only dark and flying type able to learn bone rush, and the only dark type able to learn brave bird naturally, and the only dark type able to learn fury attack, and the only dark type able to learn gust, and the only dark type with access to mirror move naturally, and the only dark type head with access to whirlwind naturally, and also the only non-legendary dark type with access to air slash, and the only dark type with access to defog naturally, and the only dark and flying type with access to flatter naturally

[hollow creek]

Spheal line would be the only one I would be disappointed with

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/money-rain-money-coins-gif-16360371

[forest vapor]

I would love carracosta fusions. Tirtouga is a cute fossil and carracosta would make great elder armor water beasts, especially with rock flippers, honestly it is a top pick for me (carracosta/lapras omg)

[mild sedge]

welcome to pokemon infinite fusion votes

[stuck bane]

If I had one for every propaganda I made I would be rich

[hardy tartan]

mienfoo, mienshao

• pretty
• more Fighting types
• ermine
• rare non-humanoid Fighting type

[forest vapor]

pokemon infinite propaganda

[hollow creek]

im surprised not many people want kommo-o

[stuck bane]

Mienshao: adds more fighting types, great attack, and good special attack and speed, and the only fighting type with access to regenerator, also can bring shaolin martial arts references to differentiate from Sawk and Throh, and is the only pure fighting type to learn aura sphere (it lends itself to being a good special attacker too), and also the only pure fighting type to learn bounce naturally, and the only pure fighting type to learn calm mind, and the only pure fighting type with access to double slap, and the only non-legendary fighting type with access to drain punch naturally

[hardy tartan]

(honestly, reading that it was one of the first non-humanoid Fighting type made me kick it up a notch in my votes)

[eternal timber]

Can someone make good propaganda for skitty and glameow

[gusty palm]

He's cool but idk we already have a lot of powerful dragon types

[unkempt kernel]

Once again here to remind you to vote for Pachirisu

[forest vapor]

mienshao drain punch is fire

[deft obsidian]

They have really good material for fusion, skull / bone = cool

[eternal timber]

Pretty please?

[hardy tartan]

karrablast, escavalier

• knights
• might be lonely without its counterpart

[hollow creek]

I dont want him, those scales would be a NIGHTMARE to work with, and the body structure isnt anything crazy

[humble lance]

amogus

[fathom ridge]

Vote vikavolt because:
-the scaterbug has an unique body shape and color scheme and it could be a cool new early route Pokémon
-the car battery looks like a car battery, do I need to say more? Is also very unique among the cacoon type Pokémon and it could be used for a simple rectangle shape
Finally vikavolt looks sick and is very unique in the sense that is bug/electric and is mouth is also a rail gun so a lot of potential for both heads and bodys. This is all to say that giving vikavolt a 3 is an 3 in one for a line where all of the three have a lot of potencial and are unique among each other.
That’s my vikavolt argument :>

[stuck bane]

Escavalier/Accelgor: adds more bug types, accelgor has one of the highest speed stats in the game with a good special attack, accelgor is also the only bug type with access to hydration, and the only bug type with access to sticky hold, and the only bug type with access to unburden, escavalier can bring lancing and armor fusions, escavalier also brings a great attack with good defense and special defense, and is the only steel type with access to shell armor (being a steel type that can’t be crit is insane, especially with the right fusion), accelgor is also the only pure bug type with access to acid, and the only bug type with access to acid armor, and the only bug type with access to body slam, and the only bug type with access to curse naturally, and the only bug type with access to guard swap, and the only bug type with access to yawn, and the only bug type with access to acid spray, and the only bug type with access to final gambit naturally, and the only bug type with access to power swap, and is also the only Pokémon besides greninja with access to water shuriken, Escavalier is also the only non-UB bug type head with access to quick guard naturally, and is also the only steel type body with access to twineedle naturally

[forest vapor]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message

[hollow creek]

I want the new mon to be something that'll stay relevant for a whole playthrough

[gusty palm]

Yeah it's another case of pokemon that have great potential but with a high skill cap

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288

[fathom ridge]

Vikavolt will be an early route mon!!!

[humble lance]

nya

[hollow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/necrozma-pokemon-pokemon-sun-and-moon-gif-13019663507301242270

[eternal garden]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghettieis it only looks like Spaghetti. It's vanilla ice cream

[humble lance]

huh neat

[gusty palm]

Yep we gotta get a term for pokemon like these, I vote for the term "Necrozmas"

[mild sedge]

I remember supporting Necrozma so much in the old vote lol

[hardy tartan]

cutiefly, ribombee

• poof orb
• the scarf is neat
• not just another 3-stage butterfly/moth
• more Fairy types

[gusty palm]

Ok now that's genius

[hardy tartan]

kriketot, kriketune

• weird without volbeat and illumise?
• more music fusions. gimme a mozart that's a Bug
• crickets!

[unkempt kernel]

Pachirisu

• Squirrel
• cute
• diverse movepool
• More electric types

[forest vapor]

• its overworld cries continue to echo in my head years after playing gen7
• scarfbug
• knitting
• crochet fairies

[gusty palm]

Honestly of Slurpuff gets in we'll have Pokemon Candy edition built into if

[humble lance]

true
i would love to see that

[hardy tartan]

glameow, purugly

• more cats
• two different cat body types so (hopefully) one won't get ignored
• could probably do something neat with the tail
• fun challenge for spriters to make the glameow as pretty as possible and purugly as ugly

[tender plank]

can't deny, you have a valid point, golisopod IS cool af

[fathom ridge]

Slurpuff would be cool but kinda mostly for heads

[unkempt kernel]

Oh and how could I forget, world champion mon

[eternal timber]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/702626820876533851/1081096132098277396/IMG_4794.png?ex=66b7acfb&is=66b65b7b&hm=296e922482acc958bef72b4de0e20f5270cbc74ca19d12db3bfc61454dac2a3c&
Some of my own propaganda

[hollow creek]

If redherring wins any of the events coming theres a chance in the raffel

[eternal garden]

This one is Hanami Dango

[mild sedge]

eelektross has so much eldritch horror potential just look at him
(if golisopod wins tho NGS would be completed)

[eternal timber]

Just ignore the head ornaments

[hollow creek]

I only made a sprite for abomasnow, I gave him a 3

[eternal timber]

Actually i made a better blissey/glameow

[hardy tartan]

timburr, gurdurr, conkeldurr

• ugly clown men which means great fusion potential
• more Fighting types
• can modify the building materials to be themed to whatever fusion it is

[humble lance]

currently miltank is kind of the designated "food" pokemon so it would be nice to see what slurpuff can bring to the table so to speak

[stuck bane]

Conkeldurr: adds more fighting types, wood, steel, and concrete fusions, only fighting type to naturally get sheer force, also brings a great attack stat with good defense and hp, and the only pure fighting type to learn chip away naturally

[ornate lantern]

accidentally sent twice but vote Toxicroak please! we need more frogs

[hollow creek]

I really like conkeldurr for IF, you could incorporate those cinderblonks in a lot of ways

[hardy tartan]

croagunk, toxicroak

• just overall beautiful color and design
• poison dart frog inspo
• already has plenty of propaganda/support in here
• more Fighting types

[fathom ridge]

We should all make sprites of our favorites as propaganda, here is mine

[humble lance]

plus slurpuff adds another fairy type to the game and fairy types are not as plentiful as other types

[eternal timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/702626820876533851/1080350352852918322/242.53a.png?ex=66b7996c&is=66b647ec&hm=e0161ebfd0df3e040e1395c5feb198fa7fcc411a045da5081559a1394b70ad75&

[velvet root]

Good day for spriting Goats

[hardy timber]

Oh my god, I think I just got an idea for an Escavalier fusion.
With either Slurpuff or Miltank, the fusion could have ice cream cones in place of its lance arms.

[dense perch]

what is all that gogoat propaganda in spritework XD

[stuck bane]

Any of the pure fairies like Florges, Slurpuff, and Aromatisse have my blessing, I think you can’t even get a full team of fairy type heads yet

[hardy tartan]

zigzagoon, lioone

• also misspelled
• early mammal
• people will be asking when Obstagoon will be added
• i guess the fur going from spiky to slick could be interesting?
• maybe for people who like weasels/raccoons/that sort of mammal who are soured on gumshoos

[civic harness]

Pleople, Im here to say it again, please think about the potential that could have the pokemon, please

[obsidian berry]

Gogoat and slurpuff would be so cool
I'm happy with either

[mild sedge]

eelektross goes from cute to eldritch horror :D

[cobalt river]

should do some slurpuffs again, its so fun to work with :]

[hardy tartan]

comfey

• head fusions will just be the 'mons with a flower crown on their head
• different varieties of flowers?
• look at what people did with klefki. bet they could do something as cool with comfey

[civic harness]

Yes, show more potential

[hardy tartan]

baltoy, claydol

• the other pottery 'mon
• biblically-accurate pokemon
• animate inanimate objects make the best fusion ingredients

[forest vapor]

• so many flowers
• so many flowers
• a meganium fusion would become "oops, only flowers"
• comfey/klefki would be cute
• flowers

[mild sedge]

tynamo, eelektrik and eelektross

• cute lil guy to eldritch horror
• can create some sick fusions
• levitate
• pretty powerful

[ember bear]

oh hey another vote!

[civic harness]

Only one slot, only one line can do it

[ember bear]

shame that my main acc got disabled for idk, reasons

[hardy tartan]

makuhita, hariyama

• absolute units
• yaoi hands
• more Fighting types
• baby sumo wrestler > adult sumo wrestler

[civic harness]

In the normal vote, there are special votes too

[ember bear]

oh man that's gonna be a harsh decision

[forest vapor]

technically two will win based on the event winners' votes so it can be worth bringing out the hype for your favorites

[civic harness]

And now think about the 90% of users that dont read this chat and also dont play the game

[hollow creek]

tf are yaoi hands

[mild sedge]

allow me to introduce you to a very silly guy

[civic harness]

I say that later

[hardy tartan]

spritzee, aromatisse

• Fairy
• plague doctor prevo
• people might favor the prevo for its plague doctor aesthetics and we'll have another duskull on our hands
• ...someone sell me on aromatisse's body. there's something there, but i can't articulate it rn

[hollow creek]

I do not like those two

[hardy tartan]

disproportionately big hands common to badly-drawn yaoi comics
it's common enough that it's a meme

[thorny ferry]

made a little something with morelull since I want it to be in

[molten loom]

#1 too many to pick 1 favorite
#2 can't sprite

[deft garnet]

Skuntank.

[ember bear]

well, at least there is no starter and legendary bias ig?

[eternal timber]

To be fair, a lot of users that dont play the game are the spriters

[hollow creek]

If morelull wins expect pvz references (especially from me)

[dark moth]

thats pretty clean 👀

[bitter comet]

Send a request

[somber crow]

The scarf is indeed neat

[rancid nymph]

There’s always custom dex entries

[dark moth]

...
2 stars ➡️ 3stars

[ember bear]

well im kinda sad about no diancie but there is still plenty of pokemon that i like

[somber crow]

Y E S

[forest vapor]

• scent fluffs
• grass type fusions have potpourri potential
• electric types could be like glade plug ins, etc
• essential oil references somewhere maybe?

[hardy timber]

Of course. As much as I want Escavalier, I know that a lot of Pokemon have a ton of fusion potential, like Golisopod, Pangoro, Accelgor, or even Scrafty.

[somber crow]

Now what should I make...

[hardy tartan]

we do have carbink as an option

[dark moth]

I will make the best golisopod fusions you have ever seen

[somber crow]

MINIOR/SURSKIT

[hollow creek]

darkrai/shiinotic - doom shroom
morelull/paras - puff shroom

[civic harness]

At least

[dark moth]

shinotic + cherubi...

[thorny ferry]

elaborate

[hollow creek]

the only downside of shiitnoic for me is spriting those noodle arms

[bitter comet]

Man, I can’t sprite but I did send a request for Malamar/Gyarados in the request channel, just hope that gets answered soon.

[somber crow]

I shall make Minior/Surskit, see y'all in a while

[ember bear]

meh

[hardy tartan]

just saying
we have diancie at home

[thorny ferry]

looking forward to it

[somber crow]

Thanks :)

[ember bear]

i like diancie but i like other pokemon more than carbink

[civic harness]

Thats why I ask to people to think about potential, after all, all that work of making sprites for the pokemon is from us

[somber crow]

Those 2 are probably my favorite ones from the vote :)

[forest vapor]

temptation to work on propaganda sprites vs finishing my abandoned custom bases

[ember bear]

and im happy if any of the gen 5/7 bugs or lurantis lines makes it in

[somber crow]

I need to make a tier list later, does anyone have the template?

[ember bear]

also masquerain but i already know that's just a delusion

[bitter comet]

Speaking of which, If anyone wants to work on a Malamar propaganda sprite…

[somber crow]

Also, if anyone wants to make Surskit propaganda here's a cool base I made :)

[hardy tartan]

right. i don't necessarily want my favorite pokemon in the game. i want what gives the best options for fusions in the game
(i.e., why i'm against the monkeys)

[forest vapor]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message
This is not complete, you will need to add some pokemon I mentioned in that msg and there's also a bunch of legendaries that will need to be ignored
not sure if there is a more complete template yet

[stuck bane]

What did you say?

[next flare]

Fill the empty space with new goats

[hardy tartan]

sell me on the fusion potential for the monkeys, then

[hollow creek]

gogoat is one that I like just dont like enough to be crazy excited about, same case with claydol and abomasnow

[stuck bane]

Elemental monkeys: would make a hilarious prank if your system date says April 1st your starters are always these guys no matter what settings you’re playing on, other than that they’re kinda underrated, simipour has been a surprising champion of multiple nuzlockes, all 3 bring good speed, attack, and special attack, simisage is the only grass type to naturally get gluttony, and simipour is the only water type to get gluttony, and they could potentially bring a triple fusion, simisage is also the only pure grass type with access to acrobatics naturally, and the only pure grass type with access to fling naturally, and the only grass type able to learn grass knot naturally, and the only grass type able to learn recycle naturally, and the only pure grass type able to learn scratch, and the only pure grass type able to learn torment naturally, and the only pure grass type with access to fury swipes, and the only pure grass type with access to lick, simisear is also the only pure fire type with access to acrobatics, and the only fire type with access to fling naturally, and the only pure fire type with access to natural gift naturally, and the only fire type with access to play nice, and the only fire type with access to recycle naturally, and the only pure fire type with access to scratch, simipour is also the only water type with access to acrobatics naturally, and the only water type with access to fling naturally, the only pure water type with access to natural gift naturally, and the only water type with access to recycle naturally, and the only pure water type with access to lick, and is also the only Pokémon besides Volcanion able to learn scald naturally

[dark moth]

anyone got a golisopod or elektross flag?

[velvet root]

You saw the fusions tho right?

[hardy tartan]

okay but
aesthetically

[somber crow]

Thanks :)

[stuck bane]

You didn’t mention that

[hollow creek]

Yeah, the noivern one is pretty cool

[velvet root]

#1213539303876206643 message

But we made like 10 new today?

[velvet root]

So its not up to date anymore (it was in the morning)

[stuck bane]

Also triple fusion itself is enough aesthetic

[hardy tartan]

apologies. i was using "fusion potential" as synecdoche for "spriting potential"

[ember bear]

or just unnecessary extra work

[civic harness]

Same

[ember bear]

vikavolt and toucannon for artillery aestetics trust

[velvet root]

We could select some of our sickest Goats for that!

[ember bear]

anything can be improved with a railgun 👍

[hardy tartan]

okay, but what about pikipek and trumbeak?
those are a package deal with toucannon

[fathom ridge]

Yesss railgun beetle

[sweet horizon]

Do we have kommo-o yet? (I don't play the game and can't see game files either so I can't check😭)

[ember bear]

no

[hardy tartan]

it's on the ballot

[sweet horizon]

Huh

[unkempt kernel]

No but it’s in the vote (tho you should vote for Pachirisu)

[molten loom]

Don't even have Plusle and Minun

[stuck bane]

Why not submitting

[unkempt kernel]

Waste of two slots tbh

[thorny ferry]

it's not like it has a chance of winning

[bronze barn]

emolga fans rise up!!!!!!

[bronze barn]

it would be so hard to see the diffrence between a minun body and an plusle body fusion

[bitter comet]

I just feel like Emo has the best color palette of the pika clones
(Still do not like any of the pika clones.)

[mild sedge]

I’ll find a way to integrate fusions and reasons in a moment

[ember bear]

not really a fan but tbh it is the best variant

[stuck bane]

With Emolga all I have to say is flying type with motor drive

But going the extra mile never hurts

Emolga: flying squirrel and gliding fusions, and it’s a flying type with motor drive making any water fusions only weak to rock (gyarados but it’s only weak to rock which it hits for stab SE and probably outspeeds), also the only flying type to learn volt switch naturally, and is the only non-legendary flying type with access to thundershock, and the only electric type head with access to acrobatics naturally, and the only non-legendary flying type with access to charge, and the only non-legendary flying type to learn discharge, and the only flying type with access to electro ball (120 BP even if the target is 25% faster than you)

[molten loom]

Fair

[thorny ferry]

if you think that's hard, imagine silcoon and cascoon

[bronze barn]

I am also against wurmple line, although dustox got potential

[molten loom]

Same reason people were saying no to Vivillon, because its similar shape to Butterfree

[ember bear]

i fucked up and i meant to send an image

[bitter comet]

Man, you make so much propaganda for everything. It makes me curious about what you vote for.

[sweet horizon]

I just now found the voting thing 😭 I'm blind af

[slim nexus]

you know what else has potential? gothitelle

[bronze barn]

the color pallate is amazing too

[thorny ferry]

I can give vivillon a pass because of the palettes it brings

[molten loom]

I still think the 20 wing patterns give good options for color palettes for head fusions

[stuck bane]

Would you believe me if I said 3 on everything unova plus a couple of other favorites

[molten loom]

I agree

[bronze barn]

honestly I voted on fusion potential 90% and 10% how much I like the mon itself

[slim nexus]

and sigilyph, and furfrou, and lurantis

[molten loom]

So many palette options

[ember bear]

emolga fusions:

[bitter comet]

That is fair gen 5 had a lot of goated mons

[bronze barn]

also, gogoat too, gogoat is goated y'all

[molten loom]

I did the same because I've been playing Unova recently so it's very biased of me

[bitter comet]

Gogoat is the goated goat

[molten loom]

Well not everything Unova, quite a few though

[stuck bane]

So yeah if you need help spreading unova propaganda, I gotchu, even for underrated ones like Watchog, Alomomola, and Bert/ernie

[sweet horizon]

Wait how is gastrodon not yet in the game

[bronze barn]

gogoat absolutely DESERVES to be ingame! it has tons of spriters dedicated to make the most amazing gogoats so #votegogoat!!!!!!!

[thorny ferry]

honestly like 90% of the choices have crazy potential

[low gorge]

I’m just excited we’re getting new pokemon!