pif-hoenn-discussion

[stuck bane]

1 more slot isn’t that heavy of a price, and it pays off in dividends with the 20+ patterns the Vivillon have

[silent acorn]

I am not against zangoose and seviper if anything I like em

[silent acorn]

Hmmmm mayhaps but have thou considered wishing upon a star?
To be honest like vivillion isn't as bad as wurmple line. But I have no faith in it

[stuck bane]

I still think it’s crazy you think masquerain is better than Vivillon after you’ve defended Furfrou for so long

[silent acorn]

? Actually I think it's pretty meh

[stuck bane]

…meh above Vivillon? Because that’s what you said

[silent acorn]

Yeah I put it in second hand goods

You know what I know what it is. I once told melosupre I would move it and kept forgetting about it

[stuck bane]

As long as Vivillon is also in mid tier on your kalos list I’m good, but here I really thought you were about to say single eye pattern is better than the entire world’s worth of Vivillon patterns

[silent acorn]

there we go

[silent acorn]

It's mostly colors and not even the whole body just the wings. I like minior more on that front.

[stuck bane]

True

[silent acorn]

Also you do know that even if I put them in middle they are like 0s and 1s to me at best right?

I mean i would just throw the point at vivillion if I saw a cool design. I love the Samurott Purugly so I am giving that one 3

[stuck bane]

Yes, mid is fair, potentially getting a 1 is fine by me, below that is definitely getting a 0 and that’s the category I care most about

[silent acorn]

The tiers are like "But wait Mon. Maybe there is something in there for these!"

[stuck bane]

Also did some searching, did you know purugly gets super fang as an egg move for some reason?

[silent acorn]

I kinda saw something I think. I mostly focused on the absurb fact it can learn hypnosis and hone claws. Imagine that. If it has hone claws back on 4 I would imagine it would have been a nighmare.

But for the most part I just like it for the smaurrot potential. And maybe some other rugged looking cat. Grumpy fat cat that looks tough is my favorite thing for felines.

[stuck bane]

Yeah but also hypnosis is 60% accurate, and purugly just doesn’t have the bulk to get hone claws going to the point of hypnosis being reliable

I’d probably take spore or something otherwise if I were going for sleep build

[silent acorn]

Funny thing that isn't the build I made up.

[silent acorn]

I honestly like it for getting the attack and sleep up. Also has the defiant thing. Which no matter what else Is lowered you get double atk buff

[stuck bane]

Yeah but it still gets walled by grass ghost, I just don’t think fury swipes hoping for flinches is that reliable, not to mention defiant is super unreliable since you need your opponent to try and debuff you, I prefer the super fang brine build I made, and air slash as a bonus to counter two of normal/water’s biggest weaknesses

[silent acorn]

I am not a fan of butterfly pokemon. but if someone knows how to make them good I can give them credit
Ignore the refrigerate.

[silent acorn]

Oh I am not thinking 100% competitive, sometimes I like to use less popular mons on regular runs

Why do you think I get obsessed over Jynx fusions. I know it's not good but I like how the fusion can look, even more if it's usable

[stuck bane]

Well, ok, anything can be good if it’s casual, fair enough

[silent acorn]

In my mind is more a thing of it being fun to use during any casual run. I am not gonna be like everything is good during casual, else I would say luvdisc is the best and we know that's as true as saying a flying/bug shedinja would be good in competitive

[stuck bane]

Well, I’m sure there’s mechanically something you can do with water type that has heart stamp, but definitely not in anything beyond casual, even if that

The only Mon with nothing mechanically would be silvally as it’s 100% just budget arceus, but even then at least it could bring chimera fusions

[inland jewel]

I mean, Silvally would give you access to Multitype before you can get Arceus which would be post game

[stuck bane]

As a legendary, so not much longer before

[inland jewel]

put him in the research lab on Cinnabar, where they give you the memories and you have budget arceus from gym 7 to till you actually get arceus

[white meadow]

type null starter 👍

[inland jewel]

normal type null without the ability to change him? 🤮

[silent acorn]

Oh no, you got me wrong. There is absolutely nothing redeeming about luvdisc, if anything is like obsolete model of a car that was produced 200 years ago and only has nostalgia value. When you got the al? Alomomercedes Monz you could get for cheaper instead.

[stuck bane]

But even then, getting a legendary just like that doesn’t sit right with me, there’s gotta be some challenge, or something rediculously absurd like fusing 777 Pokémon before mt moon. When compared to other legendaries, which silvally is, it’s hot garbage

But the designs would still be cool

[inland jewel]

silvally is a legendary? No its not

[silent acorn]

I think people have too much faith in it.

[white meadow]

it is coded as one

[inland jewel]

at best its a mythical

[stuck bane]

No it isn’t because it’s stats are 5 worse than every other mythical ever

And they only made silvally’s signature move do 120 in SwSh, in debut generation it’s 90 BP so literally budget judgement

[weak trellis]

you say that but meltan and its 300 BST exists as a technically fully evolved mythical

even discounting that and just as dubious as a mythical classification: phione at 480

[white meadow]

we don't talk about phione

[stuck bane]

You know, fair, there are worse mythicals, but those being melmetal (who I imagine is not gonna force you to download Pokémon go to evolve it), and then phione at least is supposed to be an egg of Manaphy, silvally’s meanwhile in its final form isn’t even hitting the stats of jirachi, mew, victini, Celebi, etc.

Silvally is probably worse than those other two as the others at least have counterparts (melmetal and Manaphy) that can make up for the stats of the dead weight

[glass patio]

can we rename this to couragestar discussion

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/737768625267802153.gif?size=96&quality=lossless
gonna miss that when this ends

[white meadow]

it's totally gonna end when we have all pokemon so it's gonna be a long wait 👍

[stuck bane]

||and then they reveal gumoss and announce that palworld mons are coming to the game||

[glass patio]

nah i think they’re gonna archive it soon or sum cause frogman needs a break from allat

[glass patio]

i checked the accepted clothing folder, it is there

so its real

[hushed mantle]

"It's like that one time i became a fire type in the sun"

[white meadow]

"Hey Lois! Im a Gardevoir heeeeheeeeee"

[sullen elbow]

Why did I read that as gumshoos?

[stuck bane]

Because the names are similar, even if they’re going for different designs.

[silent acorn]

Melmetal would like a word with you

I think meltan being like a common pokemon is would be nifty has more excuses for being one.

Maybe like you use 40 or something rare candies and it evolves? Granted evolving at level 40 is too op

If female trainers can have booba I wanna have my make believe abs

[zinc prairie]

it might as well be fully evolved with the bullshit evo requirements

[rancid nymph]

And the fact that you can't evolve it in a main series game

[silent acorn]

Ah classic mobile game stuff... Have 100s number of x item to upgrade a totally exclusive thing

Sylvally ah sylvally I will syl your valley and fill it anually manually sylicon

[white meadow]

If we get Sylvally I hope they splitt it at va so we can confuse people with Sylvally and Sylveon

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/zero-points-loser-0points-lost-gif-15961343

[silent acorn]

While that would be funny.

https://tenor.com/view/billy-madison-wrong-nopoints-gif-7570725

[white meadow]

Its too late to safe my soul

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/argoetti-rgoate-goate-rgoat-the-goat-gif-10727419678903322833

[white meadow]

I name the giat Justin
It looks like a Justin

Goat*

[silent acorn]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1198910371650609162
Oh neat a biker outfit now I can feel like I am back in Unova during the post apocalypse while performing The North Star Fist

[weak trellis]

hence the technically part since it can only be evolved in GO, everywhere else it counts as fully evolved (this is annoying because it means it rejects the eviolite)

there's also technically terapagos's 450 but those stats only exist on the stats screen outside of battle since it unavoidably transforms into a 600 as soon as a fight starts

[silent acorn]

I mean the froggo could just make the evolve requirement really high in that case

[weak trellis]

oh yea for IF you can 100% fix that issue

[gray vine]

or just normal

[weak trellis]

or just make it item-based like using the magnet stone and whatnot

[silent acorn]

Or you know. Make an item called Metal Glutton and give it that

[weak trellis]

my main concern with adding silvally though is working with both it and type null (which in most cases is better with eviolite support) feels like even more of a challenge than most pokemon astheticly.

[silent acorn]

You know. I think the solution is simple

[junior notch]

Bro I would love to experiment with how to use each part of it

[white meadow]

how exactly did ugly fish get in, when there's so many other pokemon?

[glass patio]

Because they hate us

[white meadow]

i believe that

[glass patio]

Look at brux reveal video
They did it to annoy us

[silent acorn]

Nah they did it because they luv us

[eager jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[glass patio]

Huh

you dont love me im not happy

[silent acorn]

Not love you fools, luv
Luv confirmed

[brisk vessel]

What fish is luvdisc even based on

I know that Alomomola is supposed to be a Sunfish/Mola Mola but what is Luvdisc

[glass patio]

a luv

[inland jewel]

theory: when they did the poll we got to choose the top 20 mons that got in, but also the one pokemon we voted for the least also got in. like either had the most 0 votes, or just the lowest total votes

because one of the mods did reveal that Bruxish was the pokemon who had the least votes of all, literally bottom of the barrel mon, Luvdisc had more votes than Bruxish

what might have happened: They saw all the hate on Bruxish and was like. "You know what, lets piss people off" and added it

[stuck bane]

I don’t think so, the discord messages in the bruxish reveal video make it more seem like this wasn’t a planned thing, especially considering 4-slotters like cosmog were on the table for the raffle, messing up 469. I think it the stars just happened to align with 469 and staff were willing to spend one of their vote slots to get bruxish in for the memes

[gray vine]

but its also great for fusions so i dont really see whats so bad about it

its a good addition for a game about fusions

[fossil gull]

Loving all the bruxish fusions going on

[white meadow]

I hate them

[tame flax]

It was a pretty cringe addition

I had a friend I was trying to get to play if, but now I got no chance of getting them to play with that thing in

[rancid nymph]

I mean, it doesn't appear until pretty late in, so you could just not tell them it's in the game

[tame roost]

bro is gonna play the game normally and then get jumpscared by ugly fish

[bronze oak]

I honestly don't see why people are upset about bruxish getting added, if you don't want to use it then just ignore them
Cursed/ugly pokemon make some of the best fusions, just a win for people who like fusing it so the community is overall more satisfied

[unique flame]

i would take bruxish again over any legendary, he add so much to the game, in move set and in the fusion possibility

[white meadow]

im happy that spheal didn't make it 👍

[silent acorn]

Oh you know what that works by me. That actually worked out better than expected.
Ps. I luv luvdisc please add it.

[hushed mantle]

As much as i hate bruxish, i don't mind it's addition since it was freely added at the cost of nothing just for the laughs

I could see that coming too

[white meadow]

I just think fusion wise its not good yet
It confuses completly to look at one fusion

[tame flax]

It came at the cost of getting my friend to play

[obtuse ocean]

I don't know if you guys have already did this or not but i would like scarlet and violet Pokémon to be in IF aka infantine fusion. i want to see what a Pikachu and Sprigatito fusion

[tame flax]

We've been over this

It can't happen due to the code

[stuck bane]

See pins

And yeah, spheal is fine, but for 3 slots I don’t think it’s an S-tier option and is a bit overrated

[brisk vessel]

Sprigatito is from Gen 9 so it's not possible to add

[obtuse ocean]

just thought i throw that out there if code is a problem you can make the patch only for pc

[white meadow]

what did my boy ever do to you

[tame flax]

The problem is that the patch to add them is incompatible with if

Frogman altered the code to much to make it work

[white meadow]

literally nothing, but it's fans got so annoying i ended up hating spheal

[tame flax]

In spheals defense, bruxish fans were more annoying and he's in

Then there was the croagunk fan who was so bad he almost got banned

[white meadow]

yeah bruxish's 3 whole fans were comparable to the hordes of spheal fans

[stuck bane]

Essentially, if you want Gen 8+ in the game, you have to figure out an older version of Pokémon essentials, then decipher frogs code, and make both work together seamlessly and easily. Frog has offered a bounty of adding one Pokémon of a person’s choice if they can figure it out, but frog himself doesn’t want to spend his free time doing it since he’s not the biggest fan of Gen 8+

[white meadow]

why all my favorite pokemon gotta have the most toxic fans

[tame flax]

Turns out making a server just to push an agenda and advertising it, not a great idea

[rancid nymph]

Well, croagunk is the toxic mouth Pokémon

[white meadow]

can we all agree eelektross wouldve made some sick fusions really hope it gets another chance

[tame flax]

I'm hoping for my boi slurpuff

Just because my means of propagandizing for him was an experiment, doesn't mean I don't genuinely want that boi in

[rancid nymph]

I’d like the Unova fossils, since they’re the only fossil Pokémon not in the game

[white meadow]

all these mons are deserving of a chance ngl besides xurkitree do not let that thing anywhere near the game

[rancid nymph]

Why is archen and archeoups there twice

[tame flax]

Two spriters wanted them

[white meadow]

the guy won two raffles

[tame flax]

If they let the ugly fish in, anything is on the table

Cringest use of nepotism, I swear

[white meadow]

reasons why to not let xurkitree in #1 xurkitree/deoxys

[hushed mantle]

When the mythical pokemon is strong 😱😱😱

[tame flax]

Eventually everything will be in

Well, everything up to the end of the gen 7 dex

[white meadow]

it gets tail glow

[tame flax]

Not like that matters with beast boost

There's already broken combos in game, one more broken mon won't break it

[white meadow]

I mean going from 414 sp atk to 1035 in one turn is a bit strong

[obtuse ocean]

can you send me the link to decipher frogs code please

[glass patio]

Screw you

[glass patio]

No way 😱😱😱

[white meadow]

im sorry but tail glow is too busted

[glass patio]

I don’t care, funny tree sprites

[white meadow]

true

what were gamefreak cooking with giving a pokemon with one of the highest sp atks a move that gives it 2.5x it

[glass patio]

@alpine rune’s meme

[white meadow]

literally so true

[marble meadow]

i wouldn,t be suprised if the next reveal is a mon who is under the radar or i may forgot existed

[white meadow]

somehow still more balanced than zacian and shadow rider cal

[glass patio]

True
Or idk i haven’t faced those

[white meadow]

Yeah

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/чатот-chatot-gif-10834860639635916277

[glass patio]

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-defence-escavalier-escavalier-uses-iron-defence-gif-24340606

escavalier would be cool but u know then some one wants its counter part

and how would it work tho just its amour as body or idk

[white meadow]

still baffled at the fact that a jousting knight is so slow

[hushed mantle]

Especially when you look at its dex entry

[stuck bane]

If you don’t know how to access frog’s open source code, you’re not figuring this out, it’s super difficult and people have tried and failed

[rancid nymph]

Vikavolt has the exact same problem

[stuck bane]

I saw a video I liked where someone was trying to explain Pokémon stats, and he said speed isn’t like movement speed, it’s reaction speed, that’s why you see things like purugly move faster than the latis, not because it’s faster than a jet, but because cats have really good reaction speed

[obtuse ocean]

I haven't tried yet I was hoping you could point me in the right direction.

[marble meadow]

but just like skarmory and other armoured mons i like those kinda fusions and for escavalier you could turn them into knights or just a pokemon with spears

[stuck bane]

Your best bet is hoping a master coder stumbles on this and takes the time needed to figure it out

[glass patio]

Wait that actually makes sense-

[spice sage]

Literally just open the data folder. All the code is out in the open

[ivory rune]

I still think they should add all the ultrabeasts at once and watch the shenanigans ensue

[glass patio]

i can finally live peacefully thank you courage

[marble meadow]

yeah but i can,t wait to have another mon for my collection of armoured fusion

[stuck bane]

The guy also made one explaining special defense, but you’d have to look it up because I don’t remember it

[glass patio]

also i’ve seen videos about the synchro mode thing in sv dlc and latios/latias seem to be really fast

[glass patio]

i wanna know
is it something “explaining pokemon stats” or idk

[hushed mantle]

I'm more a fan of thinking pokemon stats don't make sense

[stuck bane]

Something along those lines, should only be a few minute video or something

[glass patio]

nah i dont need sleep i need answers

[ivory rune]

why yes the fat cat moves faster than a jet plane and the space fairy can summon black holes because she feels like it, why do you ask

[glass patio]

Ik it’s not something official but meh

i didnt find anything meh

[lofty spindle]

Which, at this point, is it really open source if no one can access it?

[lofty spindle]

Twitch muscle is in fact not reliant on weight and no one said the black hole is being sustained, yes.

[stuck bane]

@lofty spindle Everyone can access it, and if you need proof here ya go

[lofty spindle]

Yeah you can physically open it, question is if you can do anything with it.

[stuck bane]

Oh you misspoke, you mean “is it really open source if nobody can decipher it?” I see now

[obtuse ocean]

I was referring to the scarlet and violet pokemon patch you were trying to get working. You are that frog man right?

[spice sage]

I'm not trying to get a pokemon scarlet and violet patch working no

[obtuse ocean]

That patch I'm referring to is for IF aka infinite fusion to include pokemon from scarlet and violet. You are that person right?

[spice sage]

I'm the IF dev lol

[white meadow]

not even gamefreak can make sv work so how anyone else would be able to?

[spice sage]

But I don't know what patch you're talking about

[obtuse ocean]

What you trying to make a gen 9 pokemon addiction to IF?

[spice sage]

I'm not

I specifically said several times that I won't be adding any pokemon past gen 7

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-sama-ai-vtuber-settle-this-peacefully-gif-6204625403322205544

can t wait to have her as a fusion ref

[stuck bane]

Meloetta and something from the porygon line maybe?

[obtuse ocean]

Then maybe I can try to add gen 8 and 9 just send me a link to your work so I can check it out.

[white meadow]

skull

bro is determined

[stuck bane]

Oh my lord LEAVE THE MAN ALONE, HE DOESNT WANT TO ADD IT

[obtuse ocean]

But I do

[stuck bane]

Too bad! If you want it so bad learn to code it yourself, you don’t need him to help you!

[azure field]

What did I walk into

[obtuse ocean]

I just need his base code to get started.

[stuck bane]

People who can’t read pinned messages

[spice sage]

Just download the game if you want mess with the code for yourself. Everything is already in there in clear. But to be clear, I will not be adding gen 8 / 9 Pokemon regardless

[marble meadow]

it would be funny if we get an reveal on april frools day

[stuck bane]

Yes, it would, but don’t expect anything either, I imagine most of the coming months will be working on character customization code on top of coding events for meloetta and cresselia

[marble meadow]

i see but no new areas right?

[stuck bane]

No, definitely not, beyond potentially super tiny areas for legendary/mythical events and potential other things, no new areas will be added

[glass patio]

just saw this, poor froggo

[silent acorn]

I am sorry you have to endure these kind of people Mr Frog. We appreciate all the work you put into the game.

[glass patio]

i can’t even imagine all the effort that was put in this game ngl
and this massive community that it created

so many people making sprites of funny pokemon combinations

[white meadow]

what number should i put in for randomiser? i want it to be interesting, but still pretty balanced to base game

[sterile spoke]

Frogman already did all kinds of sorcery to get the new batch of Pokémon in. Coding in Gens VIII and IX would require him selling his soul to the Devil himself. 🙂

Though I only accept one soul sale per person, so he's already over the limit. 😛

[stuck bane]

been a while since I've done randomized, but I think the numbers are the BST differences? so 300 means you could have a magikarp fused with arceus, meanwhile 0 means that 530 BST mons are more likely to be fused with 530 BST mons, iirc

[white meadow]

aight, so probably something like <50

[white meadow]

I can sell my sould to the devil
I dont need it

[obtuse ocean]

I'm not trying to be mean. I just wanted to see/know if it was possible that someone made that or is going to make it. I'm sorry I made you all feel like I'm mean I am actually a really nice guy.

[vast ore]

Sawk and Thorah are my bro's favourites ;( I doubt they're ever getting added in

[spice sage]

~~implying I didn't sell my soul already ~~

[spice sage]

It's alright hahahah, they just wanted to help 🙂 but thank you

[stuck bane]

They got potential but… yeah it’s gonna be a while if ever

[vast ore]

Honestly the only good fusion I can think for them is with each other and it's just the two of them side by side defending each other lol, the problem is there's already so many fighter humanlike pokemon

the hitman pokemon being the biggest lol

[stuck bane]

Oh, I never introduced myself: I’m Mr. Unova man, I’ve made a list of reasons for every unova Mon in the game, here’s the one for Sawk and Throh:

Bert/Ernie: adds more fighting types, Sawk brings great attack, and Throh brings great hp and good attack, and Sawk is the only fighting type to get sturdy (heracross but instead of needing a focus sash you have a free slot for an item?), also brings judo/karate/belt fusions and fusions of wearing a martial arts Gi for different Pokémon, Throh is also the only pure fighting type with access to bind, and the only Pokémon besides greninja that can learn mat block, also the only Pokémon besides pinsir to get storm throw naturally, and the only fully evolved pure fighting type with access to body slam, and the only fully evolved pure fighting type with access to circle throw

[vast ore]

Unova is my favourite so I hard support it lol, I want the sewaddle line so badly, beside Reuniclus and Litwick, Leavanny was my favourite

[inland jewel]

its alright, we all want more pokemon in the game, its just that the code is readily available if you download the game,

Since you know... it sort of needs that code to run the game

[vast ore]

xD it's true and updating it often would be annoying for ppl

[inland jewel]

as explained by the Dev when he said to just download the game. In addition, the code IS public knowledge since you can just search up from:chardub code in the search bar to easily look up the github that has the code as well

search bars exist for a reason

[glass patio]

my pfp is a gen 3 mon i want a gen 7 mon and my fav region is from gen 5
heh

[vast ore]

The only mon that should be put in the game that's past gen 7 is Clodsire cuz imagine the meme potiential of quagsire and clodsire

[glass patio]

I love clod but we alr got quag thats enough

I can only think of applin line

also that’s a beautiful pfp

[vast ore]

Thanks ^^ drew it myself I think when I was 15 or 16

[glass patio]

he is gonna kill me 🙂

[alpine rune]

Lol wtf just happened

I got pinged for a meme and decide to read the chaos that ensued and it was hilarious

[glass patio]

lmao

[stuck bane]

Leavanny is a good one too, I’ll leave you with this before my pathfinder game starts:

Leavanny: mantis fusions (that are actually bug type unlike lurantis) and sewing fusions, also adds more bug and grass types, and is a mon used on ash’s team, good attack and speed, only grass type to get swarm, and the only bug type to get chlorophyll (fuse with Durant for super speedy chlorophyll boosted scizor?), the only grass type that can learn endure naturally, and the only bug type that can learn grass whistle, and the only grass type to learn sticky web, and also the only grass type to learn string shot, and is also the only grass type able to learn struggle bug, and gets entrainment (it’s the only grass type to get it besides petilil, but also all of leavanny’s body stats are better than Lilligant’s, so it still makes for the better grass type body), and the only grass type with access to fell stinger naturally, and Swadloon also brings the best head fusions in the whole game

[silent acorn]

That's your title? The Unovan man? Not gonna lie I dig it

[silent acorn]

Fair points. Although the reason for Lilligants stats being different is that Lilli is a Spatker and Leavanny a physical tank. Funny thing if you consider the fact that Hisuian Lilligant literally stole Leavanny's legs for itself.

[hushed mantle]

There's nothing about a tank in those stats

[stuck bane]

What I meant to say is that physical stats are simply better than lilligants, so it just serves as a better body

[wintry thorn]

the 6 weaknesses with 2 of them being 4x dont help either lmao though ig fusions might help with that

[weak trellis]

for reference, that'd be 103/80/92 vs. 75/70/80

so it is better on the body but probably not to the point where I can throw it on most things and get a +60 BST difference lol

[wintry thorn]

leavanny has such a good design though, its such a shame it has bad typing

[silent acorn]

Has defenses

[silent acorn]

Fusion potential you make whatever possibility you want the original typying doesn't matter. I mean look at Aurorus

[stuck bane]

But anyways, that’s besides the point: SWADLOON HEAD FUSIONS

[silent acorn]

Hmmmmmm

[glass patio]

https://tenor.com/view/swadloon-pokemon-unova-pokemon-black-and-white-pat-gif-8167945014532382582

look at the lil fella

[stuck bane]

Seriously look at this:

[silent acorn]

Oh that's cute

[silent acorn]

The better Ogerpon

[coral axle]

I think swadloon and sylveon could be a cozy bow blanket

[glass patio]

Nah

[rancid nymph]

I'd LOVE for the sewaddle line to be in this game

[silent acorn]

The original leaf hoodie

[glass patio]

Fair

[glass patio]

Minior @ White Herb
Ability: Shields Down
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 108 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 144 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Shell Smash
• Acrobatics
• Earthquake
• Stone Edge

Like it can learn those moves in gen 7

[deft shuttle]

Hear me out on this:

[next flare]

Of course it’s a trade evolution

[stuck bane]

The only fakemon deserving of being added to the game

[robust niche]

BAHAHAHHA

please add solgaleo and lunala im begging for pure necrozma

[white meadow]

Please add the rest of ashes pokemon and also pachurisu

[marsh yew]

Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde would be quite neat, legendary-wise

But yeah, full Alola trio would be great

Poipole and Type:Null as well

And perhaps the muskadeers

[sullen elbow]

now is when the people bully you for saying type:null watch

[stuck bane]

Type: null is just budget arceus though, it brings unique fusion potential with chimera-esque fusions but it really isn’t a super big priority

[marsh yew]

I mean, we have the entire Johto Dex, and that's low priority by definition lol; just saying it would be neat

[stuck bane]

That’s a bit different, since johto is literally on the map and it’d be so weird to be in johto without johto mons. The difficult part about silvally is that it brings nothing mechanically: the boost to its signature move was only increased in SwSh, in Gen 7 it was 90 BP. At least it’s still above stuff like luvdisc though

[sullen elbow]

so just like regular johto

[stuck bane]

Taking up a legendary slot when we already have arceus that does everything better is a super big ask, I’d prefer almost any other legendary/mythical before it, maybe tied with stuff like marshadow. But I won’t lie that the fusions would be cool, probably, but that reason alone isn’t enough to justify it being above D-tier

[marsh yew]

Okay, cool, but I disagree

[stuck bane]

Anyways, back to all the others I was originally responding to: ash’s mons would be sick, especially for unova:

All of ash’s mons currently not in IF:
Hoenn: Torkoal, corphish, swellow
Sinnoh: Buizel, Staraptor
Unova: Boldore, palpitoad, leavanny, scraggy, Snivy, pignite, Oshawott, Unfezant
Kalos: greninja
Alola: rowlet, Incineroar, naganadel, melmetal

Pachi is good, but probably at least under Emolga still since flying type with motor drive

Xerneas and yveltal offer a lot as 2 very needed types as well as unique moves and abilities, Zygarde is only a touch lower than them as we already have so many dragons but unique moves and abilities on him too

Cosmog line is popular and also brings unique moves and abilities, being counterparts with necrozma gives them a really good chance though

Naganadel falls under the “so many dragons” issue, but otherwise nothing wrong with it and it would be a good addition

And the swords of justice also bring good potential with increasing our fighting type numbers

[proud lion]

Zygarde would also take 3 slots for each form

[white meadow]

maybe 10% and 50% would take one each but i think the complete form is just gonna be another ultra necrozma

it would be funny tho if complete was available as a base tho

[proud lion]

Imagine all the transformer references with that base

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-zygarde-gif-11033852

[prime dust]

• Eevee = Megazord/Voltron

[marsh yew]

Yeah, Complete would just be an Ultra Necrozma case; and, ttbt, 10% would IMO be the least needed forme to cover

Zygarde x Necrozma would be... interesting

[silent acorn]

Hmmmmmmm
Nah
Crystal Mecha and Green Scale Prism thing? :V? Nah Id rather have the boring squirrel amirite?

[marsh yew]

Necrorde turning into Ultra Necrorde 100%? Sign me up lol

Melmetal would also be neat

[stuck bane]

Wait would gardevoir Zygarde make Gardegarde?

[empty pendant]

Okay, but given that in Alola, 10% Zygarde was available relatively early in the game (since it isn't actually that strong), 10% Zygarde could be available early on in IF too and give you an interesting Dragon/Ground type to play with well before endgame.

[marsh yew]

As long as it isn't as obnoxious as Sun and Moon's approach, I'm all for it

I personally would have 5 10% Zygardes and a single 50% Zygarde to account for completion

[stuck bane]

10% could be an interesting one too, not only for potential early game (which there’s no guarantee for) but I’ve heard a lot of people say they only want Zygarde for the 10% form to make fusions of. If rockruff proved anything, spriters love their dogs

[empty pendant]

Given that you can duplicate 'mons in IF by using Nincada, you could potentially get both a 10% and 50% with Power Construct.

[proud lion]

A vendor would have collected all Zygarde Cells and will give them to you for $3000 each

[marsh yew]

I still think the Power Construct approach was Gen VII Rube Goldberg crap at its best

[stuck bane]

Get complete Zygarde before Brock by constantly collecting and selling tiny mushrooms

[proud lion]

Price may be increased to 5000$ each

[empty pendant]

I thought it was a neat idea, just very annoying in execution, but in an older-style 2D map approach it's less irritating because you'd have to always be able to see them

[stuck bane]

Actually that’s not too far off of jirachi, jirachi can be obtained around Brock if you buy 1500 or so splicers right?

[marsh yew]

I mean, it was repurpossed from a potential Z game, and turned into a weird sidequest; also, 2 of the cores got level up moves for some reason...

I swear, if Z was a thing I am certain those would had been used for Geomancy and Oblivion Wing

[empty pendant]

And!! With the ability to duplicate them, you actually only need to manually find 10 cells. Then you could copy and then break down 10% Zygardes as much as you want. That's assuming the same mechanics are used, anyways.

[glass patio]

Lmfao

[silent acorn]

That's assuming one wants to embody that meme

[slim bone]

Can some1 send the list of TBA mons

I’m trying to show something to someone lol

[clever atlas]

To be announced: None
To be released: plus cresselia

[slim bone]

Can’t find it w the pin

Just says i need nitro

[glass patio]

What
You dont need wtf

[clever atlas]

Scroll down

[slim bone]

Idk 💀

[glass patio]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message
@slim bone

Blaq when r u updating list

[slim bone]

I just mean a tier list pic

[glass patio]

What
bruh

[slim bone]

Like tier list of all the mons not in IF yet (obv not gen8-9)

[glass patio]

I made one

[slim bone]

I used to see then all the time & the only ones I can find have an entire row of mons alr in the game

[clever atlas]

Wtf do you mean lol

[slim bone]

Something like this, this is the best 1 I can find

[glass patio]

Yea that’s a row of mons alr in

[slim bone]

But w/o an entire row of mons alr in the game. Idek why anyone would make a tier list & have alr added mons. I need one with only mons that haven’t been added

[glass patio]

Bruh
Just ignore that row

[white meadow]

because at the time those mons weren't confirmed

that tier list is hella old breh

[slim bone]

Exactly, hence why I asked for an updated one

[glass patio]

If it is that old then why is bruxish there

[white meadow]

i mean the template

i assume they meant the template too

[glass patio]

But why does that matter

Bruh

[white meadow]

maybe they just want to make an updated one without the new ones for less effort ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glass patio]

i dont get it

Skill issue

[stuck bane]

@slim bone this is the best you’re getting:

[glass patio]

I think they want to make a list themselves without the pokemon alr in

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[stuck bane]

Wtf? Then, make a new tier list? I only did what you saw above and making a section for the ones already in, and then make lists based off of that

[glass patio]

I dunno

[slim bone]

I’m just trying to show some homies in pixelmon server all the good mons left that got rejected over the meloetta obsession 😭💀 it’s not that deep fr

[glass patio]

Pixelmon? Bruh
cobblemon better

[slim bone]

3d > 2d

[glass patio]

there’s something more important than tierlists to talk about here

[slim bone]

I asked 1 question 💀

[glass patio]

fine

well i dunno man

[stuck bane]

Oh you’re talking about the raffle list? Why didn’t you just say so? Also Melo literally wasn’t chosen it was raffled so obsession isn’t the right word that got Melo in, you’re talking about how stuff like rockruff got in over stuff like Golisopod and lurantis

[sullen elbow]

Melo was selected randomly lol

[slim bone]

I just want a tier list of all the TBA mons not just the raffle picks?? I didn’t think my question was hard to understand 🙃 ik Melo was raffled in a while ago. But I also remember every1 going crazy acting like Meloetta was the single best mon to ever be added/will ever be added for fusions. That’s why I say obsession. I distinctly remember this from the day Melo was announced

[glass patio]

man the music fusions r good plus you seem to be happy with melo but the food

[glass patio]

Idk if someone has made a tierlist like that tho

[slim bone]

Fair enough, thank you for clear, concise answer

All I needed to know fr lmao

[glass patio]

im sorry lmao

[stuck bane]

Slurpuff would have been great, as well as some others like archeops and Eelektross, but Melo was the best one, here’s to hoping those others get in someday though because they do have potential

[slim bone]

Nah all good 🙂 sorry my question was confusing. I haven’t played IF since the new update when necrozma came out. I just remember seeing those tier lists like every day or multiple times a day so I thought they were commonly floating around

[glass patio]

Yea looking at your message history you mostly talk here and team melo lmao

im gonna miss couragestar-discussion if it gets archived

[stuck bane]

Not to mention, the statement “Melo makes the best fusions” isn’t completely wrong as it’s dominated the past 2 main contests, blowing Lycanroc out of the water and even hitting 2nd place in secret spriter

[glass patio]

also would you look at this awesome animation @keen wasp made

[slim bone]

Ok this the best one I’ve seen by a mile

[glass patio]

Glory to shedinja

[stuck bane]

Yeah vixtar has been carrying team Melo alot, I have no art skills but I support where I can, it’s awesome

[slim bone]

I’m not a meloetta fan still but that shedinja/meloetta is insane 😮

[silent acorn]

Yes like luv

[stuck bane]

If only animations were in game

[glass patio]

i just discovered it through this

[slim bone]

Fr 😦

[stuck bane]

But that’s a lot of work too so it’s understandable

[silent acorn]

Oh that's dope

[keen wasp]

guess my new nickname is vixx well I like to think I made a lot of melo sprite but I still haven't reach my desired spriting skill with melo yet

[glass patio]

nincada

[glass patio]

what r u talking about i just searched your gallery posts they’re awesome

[stuck bane]

Ooooo you made the aegis-galletta your pfp, that was an awesome one you made too

[glass patio]

Oh gosh you made a bruxish with a gun wtf

[keen wasp]

but I still feel like I still need to improve on a few things to make it pop even more... tho thx regardless :)

[glass patio]

what you’ve done is better than everything i’ve done

[keen wasp]

and yeah I made the triple fusion as a pfp in mind

[keen wasp]

in that case we both still can improve and make our fusions shine :)

[stuck bane]

Wait a minute what is the limit for master spriter? 50 sprites of a single Mon? You’re at 55 but idk if that’s being reduced by aria/pirouette being different

[keen wasp]

master spriter is like... 1000+ sprites. for 50 sprites it's pokefan role

[glass patio]

That is for pokefan

[keen wasp]

also that's 55 including basically color swap alts, the correct numbering would be around 30

[stuck bane]

Ooooh I see

[glass patio]

hopefully one day i can make stuff like those awesome spooky shedinjas i’ve seen

[keen wasp]

although, 8 of those sprites I'm not sure about

[gray vine]

just gotta make 971 more sprites

[keen wasp]

the klink line/melo A+P are very similar so I don't know if they count as 6 separate sprite or just 2, same thing with melo A+P/wailord

[glass patio]

wait that just reminded me of my poliwag line shedinja do they count as different ones
they’re too similar specially poliwhirl and poliwrath

idk

i thought that was only for alts

[keen wasp]

I tried asking in spriter general for it and the answer I got was that everything count except very similar color swap-like alts

[glass patio]

Oh so it’s only for alts k

[keen wasp]

so if you say... make a mega alt with dif pose and design it count as seperate but if it's basically just a color swap it doesn't

[glass patio]

Yea ik bout that

[keen wasp]

well this is afaik... when I get to 50 I'll ask a manager on what counts and doesn't counts

~~also fun fact: I've made a total of 37 fusions so far... 30 of em are melo fusions... 81% of all fusions I've made are all meloetta ~~

[bitter comet]

Man it would be great if these guys got in

[stuck bane]

honestly I'd be super happy with it: for only 20 slots it does almost everything we need: more fighting and dark types, adds 2 lines of fairy type heads so now you can get a full team of 6 unique fairy type heads, bunch of good/great/amazing mechanical aspects from each like first impression, regenerator, contrary, topsy-turvy, dry skin, solar blade, belly drum unburden, scrappy, shields down, aura duo's abilities, and diancie's defenses, it also adds more grass types and would get every type in the game represented above 50%... except bug, but the fact that they're all still pretty popular on top of doing all that makes it imo a really good list

[sand mica]

Can you put Skuntank in the game soon?

I'm ready for a new voting poll so I can get Skuntank in.

[stuck bane]

No, skuntank is getting a 0 now

[nova crater]

I'm honestly curious as to why Ultra Necrozma was made weaker compared to the one in the official games

[bitter comet]

I wonder how Malamar would evolve in this game

[glossy osprey]

level 04 trust me

[nova crater]

same with why it kept the base necrozma abaility instead of it's ultra form one, that being Neuroforce. Like is it due to balancing reasons or was just too hard code? Like I'm just curious

[white meadow]

have you even done anything for skuntank anyway other than just spamming?

like even just a sprite or concept? no?

like even bruxish was kinda a meme but people actually made stuff with it

now he is just gonna google something huh?

[bitter comet]

I kind of like that they added bruxish it’ll be fun to see the cursed fusions in game

[marble meadow]

i forgor it was a mon and i woul,ndt be suprised if another mon i forgot or is under the rader is next

im bad at typing

[white meadow]

just get better coverage

[marble meadow]

but well its cuz english is not my main language and speaking is english is easyer then typing or writting

[white meadow]

dang that's my opposite, i suck at speaking and typing is easier

[marble meadow]

and im good as long landorus dont get in or any of the genies i mean there desing are decent but one of them is a nightmare in competitive

[glossy osprey]

I wanna fuse landorus with kingler and go into competitive, kingorus

landorus+wailord=landlord

"I don't wanna pay the landlord!!" fine then, get earthquaked

[weak trellis]

lanturn + kingler gets close but only gets lanlord

[glossy osprey]

well it's a good thing landorus is not in the game because I don't want to succumb to a landlord's predatory housing scheme

[hushed mantle]

Getting the genies in would be a terrible idea because body fusions would be all similar

And head fusions would be almost identical to their therian forms (if we get them as separate numbers)

[glossy osprey]

Yep, exactly! Please don't give us the genies, I'd actually suffer (Even though I believe they'd make some unbelievable head fusions with cloud effects and I don't believe body fusions would be lacking either, like I'm thinking Noivern/Landorus with a constipated face looking down on your mon, like the expression on it's face would be like "I need to take a shit so bad rn, I'll eviscerate you if you get in my way")

I still don't want them though, no way!!

[stuck bane]

.... are they at least above luvdisc tho?

[glossy osprey]

Nah luvdisc no diffs them ( Although the design of the genies may look uninteresting, think about how they'd look fused with another mon, how they have nice features like their tail thing on their normal forms, their vibrant color palette, how sick their faces would look on some dragons, you could even incorporate some lightning/wind/rock effects along with cloud effects. For head fusions, you could have them levitating. Of course one attribute against them is how the head fusions for therian and normal forms would be similar, however the forms have minute differences that would be evident in fusions, for example a therian tornadus head fusion would incorporate the massive wings and bird legs as opposed to it's normal form which would have actual arms and more cloud. Also, I'm particularly interested in therian thundurus body fusions, because therian thundurus levitates without wings or clouds on it's feet)

[robust niche]

they should add hoopa for meloetta/hoopa/manaphy triple

[white meadow]

what do those pokemon have to do with each other breh

other than just being more mythicals

also manaphy isn't even in

[glass patio]

lol

[sullen elbow]

That's more than Mewtwo deoxys and genesect have in common

[glass patio]

True theyre an actual triple

[white meadow]

well

[glass patio]

Ig it wouldn’t be that stretched

[hushed mantle]

I guess they all three are strong antagonistic pokemon

[glossy osprey]

I propose Guzzlord/Snorlax/Slaking for the lazy consumer trio

[white meadow]

@sand mica question
Will you continue to put a request in the channel noone takes even when someone would do the Skunkrus?

[sand mica]

Maybe I should request something else?

[white meadow]

Dont get it wrong its just a slight discomfort for me to always see the same request noone takes
A big point for that could be that Skunkrus sounds hard to make

[sand mica]

I'll settle on Skuntank/Aromatisse for now.

[white meadow]

Well dont take me wrong
But if you want people to make it and see that it isnt shit... Why not make a easyer fusion request
Something someone thinks " fine I do it" and than maybe sees why Skuntank isnt awefull

Dont wanna hate or anything
But your way of advertisig Skuntank is contra productiv

[zinc prairie]

This is the “what boys have on their mind” meme in a real context

[nova crater]

I believe it's due each of them having to due with dna, one is modified mew dna, another is dna combined with technology, and the third literally is dna

[zinc prairie]

They probably have a lot of loyalty

[silent acorn]

Za I am on you with Guzz but these... Man.

[silent acorn]

Repetition creates burnout which in turn creates frustration, frustration leads to annoyance, annoyance leads to anger and anger to resentment. That's what you have done to skuntank my friend. I actually like it, but with what you done It has like died and wither to me.

[zinc prairie]

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/bd3bf0_3deaa16ead13429b91ca2d0ff7652f19~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_640,h_320,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/bd3bf0_3deaa16ead13429b91ca2d0ff7652f19~mv2.jpg

[white meadow]

Not that one

[silent acorn]

Yeeeeeeaaaaaah.... If the weather dudes get in I am straight up saying the community has an obsession with Macho mons

I mean the therians are... Ok I guess. I don't love them

Crap... The therians have different stuff... Well crap those count as 6 mons now

[glossy osprey]

Kinda feel like making a landlord ngl

[zinc prairie]

I should slap you for saying that word

[silent acorn]

You can just mix wailord with whatever else

[glossy osprey]

is there another pokemon with the first part of the name beind land? Cause I don't remember

[silent acorn]

eeeehh close enough

[silent acorn]

Here is your daily dose of "Oh there is a pokemon called that"

if you see me vanish for 2 hours you know Bergmite is dangerous.

[hushed mantle]

No way 💀

[bitter comet]

What is the stat block?

[vast folio]

So... anyone gonna make some Palworld references?

or Lethal Company

I think Lovedisc + Charizard =

[finite needle]

Salazzle is it’s ever added

[hushed mantle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543958354377179176/1200460954681491616/352.182a.png?ex=65c64363&is=65b3ce63&hm=fc18f95cb7faffc48801f111dc089b601133d0298515f4e7d509f695b7fb646e&
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543958354377179176/1200413192376033400/154.446.png?ex=65c616e7&is=65b3a1e7&hm=2da2f16519ef749a1af5e787318c5092e928b8c405deb5364843e64f5290c439&
There's already some of them

[robust niche]

is there a fusion called burdup

[lost pebble]

probs a fusion from budew plus something else

[orchid vault]

there's no mon in IF with a name that ends in dup so no?

[white meadow]

The second one is from palworld

[glass patio]

obv

[white meadow]

both are

[glass patio]

gun

[sullen elbow]

Which fusión is the first one?

[storm zodiac]

Roserade/Bellossom, it has recently been added to the gallery so not in the game yet

[quaint yarrow]

Add abomasnow

[onyx berry]

Salazzle+Mewtwo

[gray vine]

There is a pal that would fit that fusion more

[onyx berry]

Eh This Is Literally Shadow Mega Mewtwo Y

[gray vine]

Indeed

Its not in the game just in the source code tho it probably gonna get added in the next bigger update

[onyx berry]

Yeah full release probably

Since It's still early access

[gray vine]

The company only has early access games

Some years old it's never gonna be a full release lul

[onyx berry]

Bro slowmode scared the shit out of me I was like ''Why is my screen shaking''.

[onyx berry]

Well unlike the other games this one seems to have drawn quite a lot of attention so they may not want to pass up that chance

[gray vine]

Maybe

[sterile spoke]

This isn't really the channel for this. 😦

If you want people to make references, request them in #sprite-requests. 😅

[mighty fern]

I think they were just asking if people were.

[silent acorn]

Not gonna lie. This is the closest one to copycat Nintendo to palworld

[prime dust]

i mean any monster catching game is going to copycat Pokemon to some degree

[weak trellis]

including pokemon itself, which started its development as a kid-friendly SMT

[silent acorn]

I like the systems pokemon has but damn... We lost the epic factor somewhere

[prime dust]

because they want to keep catering to the kid crowd, instead of realizing most of their fanbase is likely 30+ years old

source: am 30+ something years old

[weak trellis]

"most"

like with most nintendo's franchises I argue against the "it's for kids" thing since most of them are family friendly but uh

pokemon is one of the ones I feel that really is for kids first and foremost rofl

[silent acorn]

Har Har you are older than me

[prime dust]

lived through both console wars

[silent acorn]

Nah I am old too, I really preffered when pokemon goes dark or weird. But the good weird

[silent acorn]

A veteran for sure.

[weak trellis]

pokemon's like kirby, it saves the dark/weird for the climaxes and postgame content

[white meadow]

what postgame

other than dlc locked stuff

[prime dust]

what kirby games have you played?

they are all about an eldritch abomination who hungers for the very universe itself...and he rides around on a star

[white meadow]

hey he did specify the climax/postgame part, the early game is quite chill usually

[silent acorn]

Sometimes I feel like that's the issue actually. Like you get given this idea that bug pokemon are for kids and people who just want fast levels whilst actively trying to nerf them to other pokemon types. Hell ice pokemon seem to just be a difficulty setting rather than a competent pokemon type

[white meadow]

the solution is to give all ice types a move called "flash freeze" that's basically spore but ice, surely nothing can go wrong with that 👍

[glossy osprey]

Fraudkuna power RAAAHHH

[swift bolt]

Hi do you know about the pokemon merge that gives a reference to inazuma eleven?

[oblique sigil]

are there triple fusions for all pokemon now. or is it certain ones?

im curious cuz the fusion site has triple fusions listed

[proud lion]

Only certain ones

[sterile spoke]

I mean, Pokémon copied Megami Tensei. 😛

[oblique sigil]

which ones? just curious. from what i could tell, its starters and legendaries, but are there any others?

[proud lion]

Just starters and legendaries

[white meadow]

pcs if infinite fusion had triples for every pokemon

[sterile spoke]

#gameplay-help, not here. 🙂

[sterile spoke]

There would be 103,161,709 available options, and that doesn't even account for Ultra Necrozma's form change. 😅

[bitter comet]

[lofty spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/laptop-smoking-fire-burning-lag-gif-19373925

See it this way, Frog could advertise the game as "Straight Fire".

[glossy osprey]

My potato pc would handle that

Who's stronger, you (my potato pc) or him (PIF)? Well, if PIF introduced triples for every mon it might cause me a little trouble... But would you lose? Nah, I'd win

[weak trellis]

"what's the worst that can happen, it'll explode?" ~Man who's PC exploded

[alpine rune]

[next flare]

But if every Pokémon was a part of 1 triple fusion, it would be 156 available options. Still a lot, but possible

[glass patio]

The ones on daena are all the ones

[silent acorn]

And someone wanted to do this on unity with 10 pokemon imagine that

[silent acorn]

Why does the pc screen look like it has laughing lips?

[silent acorn]

Ded chat

May I say one thing without any opposition

Marshadow be boring

Vote Alomomola. It is a pink angel, sunfish deserve praise

[glass patio]

Vote [[error]]
there’s no voting

[strong hare]

I mean it's possible, but the devs would have to worry about great grandkids and nephews before the game could be taken out of beta, let alone optimized

And plus i see triple fusions more structured than that, like a recipe in minecraft

ur just fabricating megas at that point

[glossy osprey]

Might as well drop a slightly hot take or two: Floatzel line would be great addition to the game and genie trio (Landorus, Thundurus, Tornadus) are severely underrated, like they aren't even given a chance

Although the body patterns of the trio would be kinda difficult on large sprites

[strong hare]

Genies are more of a lukewarm take, would love to see fusions of those

As for floatzel and buizel, couldnt hurt

Look what we did with bisharp

[glossy osprey]

With floatsel we can have more weasel type fusions and creative stuff with tubes ( Regigigas body + Floatzel head = Regitube but with the head of a weasel with a nice color palette)

[strong hare]

Fair point

[glossy osprey]

Also I have like a massive wip landorus/wailord sprite sitting on my folder which I'm excited to use as a part of my pro genie agenda

Hope I'll be able to get to it

[stuck bane]

did somebody say reasons for genies?

Genies: all therian forms can make cool fusions, and thundurus serves as the only flying type with volt absorb, tornadus and thundurus bring great special attack while therian tornadus brings great speed, only flying types to naturally get prankster, thundurus is only electric type to get prankster, and the only electric type to get defiant, landorus brings great attack, and landorus is the only flying type to get sand force (also gives immunity to sandstorm despite no longer being a ground type), and they could potentially bring a triple fusion (or 2 if we want to go crazy), tornadus is also the only pure flying type with access to astonish, and also the only pure flying type with access to hammer arm, thundurus is also the only electric type with access to hammer arm naturally, landorus is also the only ground and flying type with access to block naturally, and the only flying type with access to fissure, and the only flying type with access to mud shot naturally, and is also the only flying type with access to rock tomb naturally, and the only flying type with access to bulldoze naturally, and the only flying type with access to earth power naturally, and the only flying type with access to earthquake naturally

And now that unova man’s daily good deed is done, it’s back to palworld!

[glossy osprey]

Brilliant!

[glass patio]

from what i’ve seen nobody has said good reasons for genies, many people actually seem to dislike (possibly hate) them
i dont have any problem with them tho i dont get it
except enamorus
but thats gen 8
and hopefully we don’t have to deal with that

idc if they’re flying mans

[glossy osprey]

I'll just copy paste some reasons I wrote

[stuck bane]

Do we have a tiger in infinite fusion yet?

[glossy osprey]

they have nice features like their tail thing on their normal forms, their vibrant color palette, how sick their faces would look on some dragons, you could even incorporate some lightning/wind/rock effects along with cloud effects. For head fusions, you could have them levitating. Of course one attribute against them is how the head fusions for therian and normal forms would be similar, however the forms have minute differences that would be evident in fusions, for example a therian tornadus head fusion would incorporate the massive wings and bird legs as opposed to it's normal form which would have actual arms and more cloud. Also, I'm particularly interested in therian thundurus body fusions, because therian thundurus levitates without wings or clouds on it's feet

[stuck bane]

Also feel free to use that, I was in the middle of jotting down reasons from the entire attackdex, but palworld has put that on hold

[hushed mantle]

Does raikou count?

[glass patio]

i recently found out it was on xbox gamepass so i can play it
funny game
recently learned how cruel it is
nice

[stuck bane]

Does raikou count? …. I’m really not sure, but just in case let’s grab it anyways

[glass patio]

idk raikou is kind of a tiger ig

[stuck bane]

I thought of it more as a saber tooth because of the teeth

Which, isn’t really a tiger? Kind of but not really

[glass patio]

It’s actually a giraffe

[glass patio]

Ohhh trueeee genies would be kind of an obvious triple

or idk

[stuck bane]

2 potentially, but definitely at least one I imagine

[glass patio]

because of form change right?

[stuck bane]

yep, incarnate triple and therian triple

[glass patio]

I think it’s likely that if they add them we get both forms due to how different they are

[stuck bane]

incarnate could have an interesting triple, some spriters love their masculine fusions and incarnates fill that perfectly, but I'd be super interested in whatever chimera monstrosity triple therian tiger/dragon/bird we get for a fusion

[glass patio]

Idk how hard could a triple with form change be to make but man that’d be awesome

[stuck bane]

well, its out of battle form change, so actually pretty easy, especially if they're different dex numbers

[glass patio]

True

[stuck bane]

it basically works the same way meloetta and oricorio do

[glass patio]

wait isn’t meloetta an in battle form change

I understand how oricorio works tho I get it

[stuck bane]

yes, but for PIF it's going to be changed to in battle and out of battle, if possible, but out of battle definitely, thats why they went back on the 466_1 for pirouette and made it 467

[glass patio]

huh?
did someone say that or what
just wanted to know

[stuck bane]

frog did, its a bit of a process: basically when meloetta won the raffle, frog didnt know how meloetta's form change worked, so he put down 466 and 467 in the announcement, but then right after he learned it was an in battle only form change like necrozma, so he changed it to underscore, then a day or 2 later, he went back on it and decided to change it back to 466 and 467 because he wanted to

there's a message from him somewhere, I'll try to find it

[glass patio]

I found stuff

[stuck bane]

@glass patio see here

oop you found it before me nm

[gray vine]

actually its a Brontosaurus, all 3 Legends are absed on dinosaurs

[glass patio]

Bruh 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[gray vine]

its secondary inspiration is the mythical Serpopard, which is just a leopart with a long neck

[glass patio]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

I’m not even gonna say anything

[gray vine]

lul only just saw the emote next to is is called lie

but you did say something

[glass patio]

you should have realized it was a joke when i said “giraffe”

[glass patio]

meh

[gray vine]

not really it does look like a giraffe, so it wouldnt really be much a joke

[glass patio]

epic trio dinosaur giraffe and dinosaur

[gray vine]

so could have really been that you believed it was based on a giraffe

[glass patio]

that’s fair enough

[gray vine]

ye thats why i specified they are based on dinosaurs, your message didnt entail if you knew

its alright, i just enjoy informing

[glass patio]

Idk many people say it’s a giraffe as a joke it’s alright

i exaggerated with the skulls ngl sorry

[gray vine]

lul

[inland jewel]

Fun fact: Brontosaurus means Thunder Lizard

[gray vine]

i did post this fact

[silent acorn]

Now.... I will break your hopes and dreams with one word. Battle forms

[glass patio]

?

[gray vine]

?

necrozma is in the game

form changes are possible

and besodes so is aegeslash and there his other form is just not used

[glossy osprey]

Pretty sure the trio switches out of battle like oricorio so it'd be like 6 mons, a lot of slots, but slots aren't a problem now. Of course, they'd take a hella long time to get them in which I believe is their main drawback

[stuck bane]

Yeah, genies use that one revealing glass item or whatever outside of battle to transform, it’s not like Necrozma where you have to use a move in battle to activate it, in fact I’m pretty sure PLA did the same thing

So like shaymin with the graceadia flower

[verbal ridge]

They could make type: null available for use much earlier, before the post game.
At the very least, other than the fusion potential, it could be very fun gameplay wise as a fair and balanced, type changing version of Arceus.

That, and they could just change multi attack to its gen status, since it is just an attack buff.

Also, not gonna lie, I'll rather we did not add the genies, only because they feel incomplete without Enarmorus (especially since the fusion potential for that would fix all her issues as a design, in my opinion).
On the other hand, the Aura trio would bloat the game a little too much with legendaries. But they could be really fun designs.

[stuck bane]

I suppose there might be an argument for it, cinnabar is connected to a lot of experiments, right? Maybe you have to do a quest then (and a difficult quest, it’s still a legendary) to get type: null, but that also depends, is type: null noticably weaker than the legendary birds and entei? Either way, in my mind, 1 reason alone can’t carry you more than a single tier up, so while the chimera fusions would be awesome, it’s still only 1 reason, and I just can’t in my right mind say a single reason jumps you from like F tier to B tier, and all the other stuff of “just make it 120 BP like Gen 8” or “make it before postgame” aren’t guaranteed, so they shouldn’t stand as reasons

On the other hand, Genies existed just for 10 years before enamorus, that’s like saying basculin shouldn’t get in without basculegion. Would it be preferred? Yeah, but those pokemon are still their own Pokémon that can stand on their own

And yeah, aura trio is a bit much, since a surprising number of people are against legendaries, if we had to pick, smaller stuff like diancie or Xerneas/yveltal without Zygarde atm could be good work betweens

[plain gorge]

Why isn't wurmple line in the game

Like I get that caterpie line is but just for diversity? 😄

[verbal ridge]

Type null and Silvally are significantly weaker than other legendaries, bar phione and maybe regice/articuno. They would barely feel like legendaries, if Gamefreak didn't specifically point that out.

There are also multiple type nulls in canon (at least 4 between two games).
It offers a lot of possibilities as a fusion from a design and a gameplay perspective (it has 95 base stats across the board, the type changing mechanic, the eviolite bulk of null, the mix and match of possible designs thanks to the type changing mechanic etc).
I do agree that they should be lower priority, especially compared to other Alolan Mons and some Unova ones.

But I think they would be far more interesting than most of the other legendaries and some of the starters.

[plain gorge]

Or maybe scatterbug line for even more

[verbal ridge]

What about Accelgor and Escavalier; Or Leavanny;
They feel a bit more distinct, compared to another early route bug type that matches up to butterfree.
Unless we are talking about design.

[plain gorge]

Def leavanny

And this is a bitta stretch but maybe more regions?

I was sad to see that pokemon caught later in johto serve no proper purpose

[verbal ridge]

That isn't possible, sadly.
We have reached the map limit.

[plain gorge]

Unless you rebattle e4 + they take too long to lvl up why do that when you can use your already leveled mons to defeat the gyms in a swoop

[clever atlas]

That's two words

[hexed thistle]

Hi I have been trying to catch this nekrozma fusion in wild for so many times...i have wasted so many pokeballs...made it 1 hp..use great ball...still not able to catch

what to do?

[clever atlas]

Great ball? You know there's ultra balls, right?

[prime dust]

wrong channel to ask

also I hope you saved before that fight, it will likely struggle and die

[glass patio]

You’re just unlucky, we can’t help you

[silent acorn]

No courage I meant in the sense that they have different stuff on the forms. Meaning double the slots meaning the group takes 6 slots

[silent acorn]

Escavalier camp here

[silent acorn]

Now that's some blasphemy I won't forgive. That type Null is more interesting than Yveltal, Xerneas, Zygarde, Diancie, Victini and Solgaleo, Lunala and the UBs? Nah bro. No

[verbal ridge]

As legendaries themselves?
Sure.

As possible playable pokemon, in a game with limited slots, where every legendary is nearly a guaranted late/post game encounter?
Eh, at least Type: Null feels like something you could get much earlier, without much trouble.
And it would remain a unique, customizable pokemon, until the player gets Arceus, who is a late post game encounter.

That being said, if it does become a post game only encounter, then yeah, I agree that it is worse than others.

[stuck bane]

It’s not limited by slots, there’s like a few billion or so available slots now with the rework of the code, but it will still take time to implement them

[silent acorn]

We have a better option for early game access that being Zygarde Cell and 10%

[glass patio]

ooh

And we could then in post game get the other zygarde forms?

I like that ngl

How does zygarde form change thing work?

[silent acorn]

Yeah Courage mentioned it a few days ago. Zygarde Cell and 10% aren't more powerful than regular pokemon

[glass patio]

I searched stuff in bulbapedia and it seems to be kinda simple in gen 8 but this game is based on gen 7 idk

[silent acorn]

Also it gives you a excuse to chase after 100 cells rather than just... You know.... Waiting

[silent acorn]

I think it's based on cells it's very weird

Like its a quest you do. But it's very weird

[glass patio]

zygarde cell isnt even usable in battle and 10% seems to be good enough for before post game

[glass patio]

Just make the stuff to change from 10% to 50% post game

[silent acorn]

It's pretty competent yeah

[glass patio]

I think that’d work yeah

[silent acorn]

I was agaisnt it. But I think it works as the early game legend unlike cosmog it is usable.

[glass patio]

cosmog could work as a before post game legend if it wasn’t for it evolving by level

[stuck bane]

Oh, I never said 10% was weak enough for early game, even though it kind of is, I was just making a joke because somebody said they wanted to make Zygarde cells available at a merchant and I said “complete Zygarde before Brock by collecting and selling tiny mushrooms “. I think even 10% should definitely be after Brock and surge and maybe Blaine too since we don’t want a legendary ground type wrecking house, even if it is 10%

[glass patio]

True just make it before post game but not really early like brock lmfao

doggo

turns into snek

turns into what the hell

[silent acorn]

No the problem is that it has no moves nothing.

[glass patio]

Oh magikarp
nah magikarp has more moves

[silent acorn]

Well it's stats aren't above starters but yeah after brock makes more sense

[silent acorn]

Yeah except all it gets on the middle is cosmic guard

[thorny ferry]

Something funi must be happening between the 50 and 100 percent

[silent acorn]

Japan Mecha obsession don't question it.

[sullen elbow]

I wonder how zygardes sig moves would be learned

[glass patio]

Something funi is happening with all of them, dog into snek into uhhh what monryzz said japan mecha

[thorny ferry]

Yeah tbh dog-->snek seems weirder

[glass patio]

lmao
that’s why in sun and moon they give you cosmog after solgaleo/lunala

You can still level it up tho and fuse it with pokemon that learn moves so post game

[thorny ferry]

Yeah that makes leveling cosmog more bearable

[silent acorn]

Here is a funni exploit leave cosmog at day care until it levels to cosmoem, take it out evolve it and put it back. And boom full level to solgaleo before gym 4

[sullen elbow]

Funny how it evolves before deino

[thorny ferry]

You can do that?

[glass patio]

Yep
Cosmog broken
Uhhh look how awesome this cosmog minior looks

[thorny ferry]

Super mario galaxy starbit looking ahh

[glass patio]

Super mario galaxy? Here you go

the m stands for minior fr

[thorny ferry]

Trust

[glass patio]

I think that could work as main ngl

[thorny ferry]

Is that fusion actually in the game or is it actually a minior

[glass patio]

it’s just a minior in spritework not in game

[glass patio]

Nah minior is in game trust

[sullen elbow]

What's Deoxys/ferroseed doing to it?

[thorny ferry]

Them mf minior fans found a way to implement it

[glass patio]

stfu

[thorny ferry]

I need to start an anti-minior movement

[glass patio]

I uhhh

[glass patio]

you’re done

[sullen elbow]

https://media.tenor.com/d5eScZGPd8IAAAAM/pokemon-dusclops.gif

[thorny ferry]

We are now in war
Prepare for my next movement

[glass patio]

look at here got your soul

[glass patio]

Wtf did minior do to you

[thorny ferry]

It stepped on me once, and keep in mind it weighs 88 pounds

[glass patio]

Damn

[thorny ferry]

I'll never forgive that mf

[sullen elbow]

With what feet?

[glass patio]

it’s just a silly meteor

[thorny ferry]

I must not speak of the horrors that I witnessed when Minior stepped on me

[silent acorn]

Matpal I supported your brux. Do not turn on us

[silent acorn]

But It doesn't walk. It floats

[glass patio]

Nah actually give actual reasons what did it do to you

[glass patio]

Ohhhhh bruxish that explains it all

[sullen elbow]

I love how most of that weight is just the shield

[silent acorn]

I did it out of spite for Sharpedo.

[thorny ferry]

I was looking at the floor while walking, so my explanation is that it purposefuly went down while flying above me so it could crush me

[silent acorn]

Maybe you changed the gravity with your weight when you fell and attract it to you

[thorny ferry]

I still believe it was that fucking meteor

[glass patio]

it just thought it was your time to go extinct

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-cry-about-it-cry-about-it-meme-magolor-kirby-kirby-cry-about-it-gif-25023304

[thorny ferry]

I always knew it was untrustworthy...

[finite thistle]

Something that I really wanna do with Cosmoem because its stats are actually pretty decent. Would make for good Aegislash material stat wise even if the typing is meh

[rustic iron]

Mario

[silent acorn]

I just like the cosmic look it gives pokemon.

[glossy osprey]

OH SNAP CUSTOM DEX ENTRIES

let's goooooooo

[prime dust]

we definately will not abuse this power

https://tenor.com/view/witch-queen-laugh-evil-laugh-witch-hive-gif-11134479926288657310

[finite thistle]

Custom Dex entries look really cool, have to do some brainstorming for interesting lore bits for Pokemon that have those connections

[white meadow]

You can make entry for Fusions I made

[mystic crystal]

Yo custom dex entries are awesome! Never thought they'd add them considering how much work they seemed to be

[onyx kelp]

FINALLY I CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE GAME

[glass patio]

i cooked
(for people that need context for these just look them up on daena)
(except for cresselia one that isnt in game)

[rugged temple]

Have we gotten Claydol yet

[quaint grotto]

nope

[rugged temple]

Fug

[zealous flint]

[stuck bane]

I was too busy with palworld to see but YES THEY’RE DOING CUSTOM DEX ENTRIES!!!!

Also that’s pretty much the final nail in the coffin, we’re not getting any new Pokémon for a while: frog has to code a meloetta event and a cresselia event and the character creator and now custom dex entries, we’re not getting another Pokémon barring an announcement that frog is now using a group of interns to help him code the game

[plucky bobcat]

Where's Midnight Lycanroc?

[stuck bane]

In the game… did you mean dusk?

[plucky bobcat]

Aw man, I was really looking forward to getting the Unova, Kalos and Alola starters so I could start a new save file for each of them...

[plucky bobcat]

Wait what?

[stuck bane]

Oop misunderstood what you were saying, yeah original vote didn’t have midnight as a sprite, only rockruff and midday, so since tier list was based off of that, midnight sprite just isn’t there, same thing as necrozma and meloetta with their forms

[stuck bane]

I mean, someday maybe, but don’t expect it anytime soon

[plush inlet]

Dang, that's a respectable grindset though.

[plucky bobcat]

Any chance someone else can get hired or decide to volunteer to help out with that, thus allowing things to come sooner so the new Pokemon stuff can get added?

[proven basin]

been away for a hot minute. Has modern mode encounter tables been updated recently?

[plucky bobcat]

Not officially, but there is a playtest mod-thingy available. Keep in mind that there might still be bugs.

[proven basin]

kk ty for the response

[stuck bane]

Well, no profits allowed because Nintendo copyright, so hiring is out, as for the coding aspect I’m not really sure: the code is open source, but at the end of the day it’s frogs decision on what’s added, regardless if people with coding expertise wish to help

[glass patio]

palossand has awesome fusions and stufful has funny plush fusions

[bitter comet]

No Malamar or Golisopod

[stuck bane]

Guys! Not for now, give it like half a year or something

[drowsy drift]

oh man I thought frogman said no to custom dex entries

wonder if he changed his mind or if it was a technical limitation that's been resolved

[stuck bane]

It’s gonna be wild, my nuzlocke runs will be slowed considerably as I check the custom dex entry for every single Pokémon

Oh shit! I didn’t even consider! Each sprite has its own dex entry, checking stuff like gengar meloetta and arceus sableye is gonna take forever!

[bitter comet]

Man i’m gonna be checking all the entries just to look for memes and references to fandoms I’m in

That combined with my procrastination streak will make me never complete any game of IF

[glossy osprey]

Literally me

[glass patio]

“It is said that Arceus gifted NAME the power of perfect roundness. No Pokémon fusion can be possibly rounder than it.”

frog/kiwi pls approve

nah they got like hundreds of submissions to look at lol

[bitter comet]

It is so round that it is nearly incomprehensible to me

[glass patio]

fr

[hushed mantle]

Imagine all the dex entries for every diglett/diglett

[bitter comet]

I wonder what the entries for the cursed Mr. mine fusions will be

And one of my favorite evo lines in this game the Meganium/Kingler line

[glass patio]

[bitter comet]

Which Pokémon is this referring to?

[glass patio]

[bitter comet]

Is the fusion just a square?

[glass patio]

Azumarill/Piloswine

[bitter comet]

Ah

[glass patio]

george has deep lore fr

[bitter comet]

I’m assuming that that is not custom?

[glass patio]

it’s the first pin on #spriter-general lmao

[glass patio]

they made a custom for it, that’s an old image

https://if.daena.me/184.221/

[finite thistle]

Tusks? I don't see no Tusks?

[hushed mantle]

it has, you just have to believe

[glass patio]

that’s why custom dex entries are great
they can now make sense with the sprites

wait i can expand the spinda thing even further with dex entries

ADD 4,294,967,296 SPINDA FORMS WITH A DIFFERENT DEX NUMBER AND DEX ENTRY FOR EACH SPRITE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[bitter comet]

Man, my computer would turn into a nuclear bomb if that happened 💀

[glass patio]

[glass patio]

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-nah-id-win-gif-11399565856913576326

Funny meme tho

[deft obsidian]

this man whatched lot a jackie chan.

[normal marlin]

Nah I’d win

[trail hull]

Frogman: we’ll never get new Pokémon
Frogman: I added new Pokémon
Frogman: We’ll never add custom dex entry
Frogman:here comes custom dex entry

Im starting to see a pattern that I like

[clever atlas]

so gen 8 and 9 coming?

[eager jungle]

no

[prime dust]

tbf the no new pokemon thing was back before a way was found to change how the game saw fusions

as for the custom dex entries...i have no idea why that changed

[stuck bane]

Well, when you rework one system, and it works, it changes how you see other similar systems as well. Kinda similar to the 4-minute mile, where when one person broke it successfully, a ton of other people started doing it too. Frog probably had noticed a bunch of improvements that could be made now that a massive one has been solved successfully

[silent acorn]

Hey so now we make lore for fusions ourselves?!

Sick!

[sudden jackal]

ooooooooooo that sounds sweet like how nidoking/nidoqueen could be the parents of all nido's

[inland jewel]

with the old system, he had to find the specific fusion among all the 176K fusions

[deep cipher]

And nidoking (the queen+king fusion) could be both at once

[sudden jackal]

yeah like the one with king as the body would be the fathers of em all and the queen body would be the mothers of em

[glass patio]

Lore 🍳

pls approve

[deep cipher]

[sudden jackal]

should be for spheal/electrode imo

[glass patio]

Spheal not in game

[sudden jackal]

WHAT

[glass patio]

also jolteon electrode is just an inside joke in a server so i made that alt for it

[deft obsidian]

I think this channel is just off_topic 2

[clever atlas]

Kinda, yeah

[silent acorn]

I did two by now. I love this kind of thing.

[silent acorn]

Oh I love it.

[fresh salmon]

A resource to make your own Pokemon not in IF that you wish were in tierlist sort of

The webpage is https://pco.bobchao87.com/

[sudden jackal]

I feel like we really need all the weather ability mons cause they are so cool and we already got a couple of em in so far like politoed and ninetails but we’re missing peliper abomasnow and hippowdon also having all the starters would be cool

[inland jewel]

fun fact, the starters were so popular, if they weren't banned from the polls we'd have Gens 6-7 starters and then 2 other mons

so for more variety they kicked them out of hte poll to add new mons saying that they "MIGHT" add them in the future

im prepared that they are going to be added in the next big update alongside some other mons

[sudden jackal]

i cant wait for froakie to join the game cause i can see a certain yt i sometimes watch doing a really fun ash run with froakie as a main guy on his team

[rough hound]

Anyone know if theres a way to see if a certain fusion has a dex entry other than manually searching for it?

[inland jewel]

nope, you can only see them via the new channel

[rough hound]

Damn

[inland jewel]

i mean there are previous guys who posted their sprites with custom dex entries in the gallery

but those won't count UNTIL they are added to the new channel

[rough hound]

Fair, just wanted to know if the ones i wanted to know were done yet

I cant english, wanted to know if a certain fusion already had a dex entry

These guys lmao

Alright im yapping a bit, but im gonna go under the assumption they dont have dex entries yet and ask for ideas =P

[deft obsidian]

any chance to see unova starters in IF? For this year?

[prime dust]

maybe

no guarantees of what else gets added in and when

[silent acorn]

I Wonder who one asks for rewrites

[inland jewel]

best you can do is look them in in the #sprite-gallery

since people post the dex entry alongside the sprite in the gallery,

and then double check that with https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1019208546916761660

[alpine rune]

Proably

[proud lion]

No; Engine and coding would not allow it

[stuck bane]

pins also don't allow it, creator has said multiple times that even if gen 8 were possible, he just doesnt want to add it regardless

[bleak cape]

oshawott when

[low dock]

never

[placid pelican]

[eager jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-chat-chat-dead-dead-chat-inactive-gif-18754855

[placid pelican]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/598829376259358751/1201901278557376562/slownet.gif

[civic harness]

YEEEEEES

[stone cliff]

WE'RE BACK, BABY!

[civic harness]

WE ARE BACK

[hardy tartan]

:wheeeze:

[molten aspen]

We are so back

[light dune]

Aw man no cinderace

[civic harness]

Im ready to see all the chaos in this channel

[shrewd stag]

We need him in the game

[hardy tartan]

that's Gen 8, right?

[light dune]

The next best thing is tropius I better see a lot of banana fusions

[civic harness]

Only gen 6 and 7

[rancid lily]

LETS GO

[oblique mortar]

Please Devs, I need Dragalge in the game

[strange ether]

I said this was here before it was announced

[light dune]

Some of them aren’t from gen 6 or 7 but Ight

[hardy tartan]

now you can officially nuzlocke a team of nuzleaf

[civic harness]

Wait what?

[hardy timber]

Please let Escavalier into the game this time!

[rancid lily]

ITS TIME FOR TROPIUS, DRAGALGE, SPHEAL, AND DIANCE

[agile sun]

HI

[light dune]

Yea they got some gen 3s in there too and more

[shrewd stag]

Tbh i really want him in the game since i used him to get through Pokemon Sword

[rancid lily]

Sorry if this is political... but!

[strange ether]

where do we vote for them

[hardy timber]

Escavalier would be so cool.

[hardy tartan]

spriters'll have a trauma field day with this one

[hot hamlet]

Dang it I need an ordered list of “not in game” so I know what to vote for without regret

[bold atlas]

Y'know I almost forgot Escavalier isn't in the game rn,

[civic harness]

Oh right, there are some pokemons from anothers gens before 6

[molten aspen]

Not sure if the list is the same but here's the old tier list link: https://tiermaker.com/categories/video-games/pokemon-infinite-fusion-new-pokemon-16034815

[light dune]

Tropious time

[bold atlas]

it's basically an alternate for Aegislash in terms of fusions
(this is a good thing)

[spice sage]

PACKAGE DEAL BABY

[viscid fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/343563240564850690/842032891005501490/have_a_good_day_1_1zpp7.mp4?ex=66b61bbd&is=66b4ca3d&hm=f1a683aafa4f1b4981654ace363a9d5e6b11bee22708ad8f3f207593b964572d&

[rancid lily]

hi frog, rig the vote for spheal :>

[molten aspen]

How many mons are we allowing in this time?

[hardy tartan]

it's my favorite option!!!!

[stone cliff]

One evo line

[viscid fossil]

Round boi!
Round boi!

[oblique mortar]

Where do we vote at, I need to get some of my favorites in the game, Tropius and Dragalge especially

[rancid lily]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1140297687061757972/image0.gif

[spice sage]

The vote is for one line

[hardy timber]

My PFP is actually a fusion of Aegislash and Escavalier that I made.

[bold atlas]

gi's for all

[oblique lotus]

if toucannon doesnt make it in this time im going to cry several thousand tears

[rancid nymph]

where's the voting form?

[inland jewel]

I am humbly asking, get the last pseudo in

[molten aspen]

Aww, btw will we ever be able to see the results for the last vote?

[civic harness]

Oh no

[rancid lily]

EVERYONE! The vote is for ONE evolution line, we need spheal for all of the server's good

[inland jewel]

they have decided that revealing those votes will do more harm than good

[civic harness]

For only a cute ball?

[rancid lily]

it's worth it comrade

[lone lance]

When was the last time we got to vote for new pokémon?

[inland jewel]

For a body type we already have?

[waxen crown]

Pls pick inkay

[hidden relic]

Welcome back gamers

[pine urchin]

Surely this time Mandibuzz makes it

[inland jewel]

Last August

[molten loom]

No thoughts

[viscid mica]

golisopod got fckin robbed last time please

[grave jolt]

my time has come!

[rancid lily]

Gordo what have you done, the second spheal revolution is upon us >:)

[hot hamlet]

So far my top 5 are in no particular order: Wimpod, Panchem, Salandit (for the laughs at others), Tynamo, and Pumpkaboo

[oblique lotus]

again we need toucannon in stat

[zinc prairie]

@stuck bane wake up it's your time

[stone cliff]

I would like to say that Ludicolo should win so we get funny hats, that is all

[viscid mica]

surely its too laugh at others

[civic harness]

Only one line... is really going to be like that?

[hot hamlet]

Can’t vote until I get home

[last pecan]

MINIOR TRUTHERS UNITE, WR REJOIN, WE COME TOGETHER ONCE MORE UNDER OUR ONE TRUE MON

[jagged fable]

Pokemon infinite fusion server get maractus or zigzagoon on the game and my soul is yours

[rancid lily]

If spheal line or tropius gets in the game I will personally start spriting again

[round gale]

https://tenor.com/view/funky-cat-gc-slurpuff-pokemon-hungry-gif-5264269020457493661

[hot hamlet]

Well I can’t sprite so seeing the despair in others will give me life

[hardy tartan]

i'm gonna guess that "luvdisc, but only if it evolves into alomomola like god intended" is out of the cards/impossible?

[last pecan]

YES

[quartz shell]

Tropius or riot

[hidden relic]

Oh shoot, the version Pory sent didn't clarify something

[lament peak]

If you vote audino i will literally hunt you down irl

[rancid lily]

Oh shit... CASCOON CAN BE VOTED FOR. GAMERS! VOTE FOR TROPIUS, SPHEAL, AND CASCOON

[slim nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/gothita-gothorita-gothitelle-war-war-never-changes-gif-16939966968405997443

[oblique mortar]

Bro, I will be more happy than any other person here if tropius gets in the game, it is my all time favorite pokemon by a long shot

[round gale]

I didn't realise that gif had text oops

[viscid mica]

thats actually so real im voting salazzle a 3

[light dune]

https://tenor.com/view/tropius-pokemon-gif-27432751

[grave jolt]

If we get spheal or Pachirisu I will begin spriting

[deep thunder]

Certainly think Buizel+Floatzel would be a very good addition, a physical water type and one that isn't a fish would add a fair chunk of variety. I also notice we kind of need more poison types, so all of those would be welcome

[quartz shell]

indeed

[alpine inlet]

So you are telling me, that Sigilyph has a non zero chance?

[lament peak]

Lmao no

[civic harness]

ONLY ONE?! Awesome chaos

[dry cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/minior-minior-pokemon-pokemon-i-only-stand-for-one-flag-minior-nation-gif-23996712

[slim nexus]

Sigilyph has great potential

[quartz shell]

if we get sigilyph or elgyem I can make sick ufo/nazca fusions

[rancid lily]

ONE LINE IS GETTING IN, SO WHY NOT ADD 5 POKEMON! CASCOON OR RIOT (This adverstisement also supports tropius and spheal)

[woeful root]

man having evrything made it hard to chose, to many good opeions

[molten loom]

I got Helioptile, Vivilion, Tsareena, Florges, Gorgeist for 3 atm

[hazy copper]

The Wimpod fandom is dying
Vote Wimpod if youre a true Wimp

[molten aspen]

Ive seen so many non IF fusions of these two, adding them in as a bonus would just make sense at this point

[oblique mortar]

Seriously, where do I vote at? Can I please get some directions or a link

[last pecan]

4* dont pretend silcoon and cascoon are different

[rancid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/tropius-banana-dinossauro-pokemon-tropius-meu-amado-gif-15339407920333905876

[molten loom]

Oh and Ludicolo

[hot hamlet]

Gorgeist I will accept
I just want more Halloween rep

[scenic ferry]

i hope swoobat gets in, then its one step closer to all 5 bat pokemon being in
i doubt it but still

[grave jolt]

Pikaclone army!

[bold atlas]

check the announcement

[bitter comet]

wooo! Another chance for Malamar or Golisopod to get in the game!

[lone lance]

The curse has come again, My favorite pokémon being unpopular..

[rancid lily]

I will. Cascoon is superior

[oblique lotus]

scam. you dont want the frootloops bird

[lean breach]

Would love mightyena in here

[rigid stirrup]

Archeops without defeatist is all im saying

[civic harness]

Well... guys, think about potential, not only cute things